NIL Millions & Grammy Dreams with Flau’Jae Johnson

(upbeat music) Today's guest is living proof that you don't have to choose between your passions. You can dominate both. I'm sitting down with a young woman who's rewriting the playbook on and off the court. In CAA Baller, rock nation rapper, N.I.L. Queen, the one and only, Flauget Johnson. But beyond the stats and the streams, she's a young woman carrying the legacy of her father, carving out her own lane and shifting the culture and women's sport. We're talking rhythm, resilience, leadership, and what it means to be a real role model in today's world. So, let's get into it. (upbeat music) ♪ No matter what we do in the car ♪ ♪ Just chilling, couple, Amazon music ♪ ♪ Sit back and listen, hey ♪ ♪ Life loves sex, science hovers it all ♪ ♪ Especially the back is money ♪ ♪ Always involved ♪ ♪ No matter what it is ♪ ♪ We can make it make sense ♪ ♪ 'Cause nothing else will do ♪ ♪ But kick it with the homies it can ♪ ♪ So grab you a drink and a snack you enjoy ♪ ♪ And get into the vibe ♪ ♪ That only you know it's your greatest ♪ ♪ This is kick it ♪ ♪ Baby, this is kick it with the yeah ♪ - This episode is brought to you by Airbnb. Tiz, the holiday season, y'all, from spacious retreats and dream locations to their guests' favorite most loved homes, perfect for family gatherings. Airbnb has amazing stays for every festive escape. Now, let's start the show. - Hey, baby, this is Keith, I'm worse. - So excited to have you on, girl. - Thank you, Abby. - Thank you for being here. Now, we do a little pre-show, pull up. You don't want to get to know my folks when they're coming in and hang out. So let's see what you answered for these pre-show questions. So today, I'm giving fashion with the side of vibes. Okay, I love that and I do feel that. - Thank you. - The moment you came in, I felt the vibes were very chill. - I like that. - Very chill. - Just very there. - Alfred is just very there. You know what I said, fashion, 'cause I don't usually do dinams, you know what I'm saying? But then, you know, you see the goal with the shoes. And then with the chain, you're being very low-key, but we're seeing the flex. - But you see the details. - Yes, I'm gonna be old. Okay, today's mood and one word lit. So tell you about that. What do you mean by lit? - Man, I'm on fire. Like, I just left like a great meeting. You know what I'm saying, a music meeting. - I know that's right. - You know what I'm saying? You know, it just gave me a lot of perspective. So I'm kinda in M.O. Like, my eyes are like, I'm trying to see what's next. - When you come to L.A., do you feel like it's hella work time? 'Cause I do feel like, I feel like that about L.A., there's always a meeting, there's always something to do. I feel like that about L.A., but it's chill 'cause I got a beach. New York, I feel like. It'd be straight work and traffic, traffic and work. You ain't never lost. - Thanks, L.A. is more chill. - I ain't got so much traffic in the street. It's never understood that. - But traffic is not real. I'm so over traffic. I'll be telling people like, just drive. Okay, what did you listen to on the ride here? None, nothing. I talked the whole time. - Why did I ride like on Texas? - Yeah, I'm probably talking. I'll just be yapping. That's probably side of the calm, so. - Yes! Okay, then we have one thing that instantly makes you laugh. Smiley. - Yes. - It do like that when you look at somebody you just smile, you just start laughing. - That's a fact. - I just laugh though, I just, I just, obviously. - You just have such great things going on. - You got like 12 jobs, so I feel like we're the same. - Yes, we are the same. - Girl, we working all the time. I mean, in the morning, how do you decide? And maybe not even in the morning, but maybe the month or that week, what am I gonna focus on the most? - Yes. You know, KK, this is why I'm glad I'm talking to you because I had talked to somebody that understands, right? I'm like, I'm chasing some that's like, never really been done before. Like, you know what I'm saying? I want to be like the first WNBA player that won a WNBA championship and a Grammy, right? - Woo! - See what I'm saying? Those are heights that I want to reach. And so I think, man, it's all mental. Like, it's so mental and it's so strategic with me. Like, it's like, somebody's telling like, you know, keep your focus on this, but it's like, I want to do this, this, this, and this. So I'm intentional about three things, right? Three small things. But that'll give me like 21 things a week that I did. You see what I'm saying? - Yes. - So I have to break it down into small pieces 'cause if not, I'll really get distracted and I'll be like, it's overwhelming, I can't do it. But I had to learn how to break it down and stop trying to do everything in one day and stop trying to run stuff, but just give myself a time and a pace and then I could just check small stuff off the list. - That's actually the same way that I am 'cause people ask me that same question and it's not like, I mean, I want to say that I look at the big picture all the time, but I don't. I take it day by day, I look at what is most, you know, important this week. If I got a performance, I'm gonna focus on the performance. If I got my baby to ski, probably I'm gonna focus on what I got to do, who was my guest? I just take it day by day and as long as we put 100% into what it is that we got to do that day, we gonna get wherever we try to go. - Exactly that preparation. - That girl that preparation, you know, my mom, you always tell me like, kick you. You, your mentality be like an athlete. And I really feel like it's-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I feel like that because it's just about that discipline and that focus, like if I'm prepared, nobody can get me. - Literally. - Okay, now I wanna talk about the last time that you shocked yourself because you do do so many things. You've accomplished so many things, whether it be in sports, whether it be in music, you got your podcast. Is it something that you've accomplished just far that you were like, damn, I'm really, this is really it. - No, literally I did like an interview and the guy just was naming my Alkalaze. - Alkalaze in front of my name and I was like, ding, like, you know what I'm saying, like, and I was like, wow, I've done so much, but like, the biggest thing I say was, like just doing the song with Lil Wayne and girl, I know that was, him bringing me out at Louisiana fast, like, man. - I think in a moment, I didn't like really appreciate it, but then when I look back, I was like, but it's one of the greatest of all time. - That's right. - And in his city. - Exactly. And he pointed to me in like the beginning of my career, like, you know what I'm saying? I just felt like, that was something I, I can't like sweep under the rug, like, that was dope. - Yeah, that's very dope. I mean, speaking of, I mean, like, yeah, you rap star, steady on the rise, LSU basketball, Captain. And one of the highest page student athletes out here, thanks to NIL, but it comes with some pressure, I'm sure. So I want to talk about like, you know, when was the moment that you realized I'm not going to pick one lane. I'm just going to dominate every lane that I decide to step in. - I can't take the credit, my mama did it because mama did it. Mama did it. - That's my mama too. - I was on America's Got Talent, right? I did America's Got Talent. I got the golden buzzer, whatever. - Yes girl! - And then after that, I was like, right, I want to play basketball. Like, I want to follow my passion. And then I was like, I want to quit. Like, I want to quit music. And my mama was like, quit music. She was like, you just want an America's Got Talent. You're going to do both. And I'm like, all right, I do both. I act like I'm rapping, I act like I'm, but I wasn't really, but it just kind of became my routine to do both. So now when people tell me like, how do you do it? Like, how do you get up at 5 a.m.? You do all this stuff and you work. I'm like, it's my routine. I've been doing it since high school. You shouldn't have said so. My mama gave me that vision. And I'm just a type of person. If I'm going to do it, I'm going to be the best at it. Like, because why am I even doing it? I can't have fast enough. - No, everything is a competition with me. Like, I'm trying to be the best at it. Yes. - Shout out to your mama. My mama is the same way. My mom used to always tell me that because people would try to tell me like, okay, are you a singer or are you an actor? So you this and your mama, I'm going to say, - Come on, come on. - Come on, say you said me, baby, show you. You can dance, you can act, you can host, whatever they need you to do. That's your talent and your gift. And I think it's dope to see people like us in the multifaceted lane, getting an opportunity to continue to push that forward, because why pick one thing if you got a lot to give? - Right, you know what, inspire me. And I'm going to sound very young, but like, Jamie Foxx. - No, yes. - Oh my God. - Jamie Foxx, I mean, I can't. - I mean, like, when I seen the thing at the B2 where I was looking at this a real time, and I'm like, this is not the same guy, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I was like, wow, like, like, this is what excellence looked like, like, fulfilling every lane. - I cannot agree with you, but there's this one particular, it's very popular, but his one stand-up show where he went from, obviously he's doing stand-up, but then he also got down and started singing and doing all these different impressions from Luther Vangel's to baby-faced. - Well, everybody's doing ready-bunch. I was like, "Why would you be so good and funny?" And, you know, so yeah, he's definitely somebody I look up to as well that just has done great in every single lane. - No doubt about that. - So let's talk about Lifetime's rap battle. What was it like, because that was your first time stepping on a stage like that. Were you 12 years old? - Yep. - I was 12, turn 13 on the rap game, right, which made it pretty. And it was just this house of kids rapping. - Yep. - I love that show. - Bro, what? - I was in the first season like with Lotto and then I was like, "I gotta get on that show." And again, on that "Bredet Show" changed my life. I ain't gonna lie, because it was, like, artist development. - That's right. - It was artist development. And I feel like right now, that's what's missing in the game, 1,000%, 1,000%. - Y'all can't see, but everybody heading the room with it. - No, literally, like, artist development. Like, artist not being developed, no more. - No. - They don't, they don't, they don't go. - Did I get the chance to cook? - Let 'em cook. - You let 'em cook. - You let 'em cook. - Y'all put them in the fast food and just let 'em out there. - You gotta keep on. I don't know if they sleep on it, but it's great to always bring it up that Jermaine Drew pre was amazing at. - I mean, Jermaine Drew pre has been incredible in helping to develop artists. - Yes. - I mean, even when we just started the beginning with Ow-Wow. It's like, "Bow-Wow is iconic." - I can't. - He was able to accomplish kids, ain't you know that ain't easy to do? - No, no, no. - You know, we forget about that because we just know what it is. But that's why I like when he did the rap game. Because it gave people a chance to see what it takes to help train that next young person to be their full potential. - Bags. And it was so hard though, because he had just thrown you in the sharks. You know what I'm saying? We got a radio interview today. We got a photo shoot today. We got a this. We got a performance. You got a rehearsal. - Yeah. - But it really taught you the ropes of the game and then how to be like a star, right? And then just how to have your own aura with it. - Yes. Come on, have your own aura with it. Because that's a part of it too. Like, you can only see so much and learn so much. And then at a certain point, you had to figure out how to transmute your voice through it. - I'm saying it's like, "Can't be on you. I gotta be in you." - Yes. - Because I got talent when you got the golden buzzer. - Yeah. - But I want to talk about what you performed. Because you actually were honoring me. your dad and speaking got against gun violence. I know your father passed due to gun violence. So what was it like for you to perform that? And then also receive immediate, you know, like boom from it. - Well, it was really crazy. It was insane. It was because you got that going on, Americans got telly. You know, that's like a certain demographic. So I'm right. - That's very commercial. - Exactly. I'm a young black girl going on the show, they doing magic tricks, you know what I'm saying? - I thought I was jumping out of the sky. You got a singer. So I'm like, how am I gonna make these people feel me like coming on the stage? And I know I feel like music is a universal language. Like no matter a rap, country, pot, whatever. Like if you're speaking a truth bro, somebody gonna connect with that. - 1000. - And so I just went out there. I was like, I'm gonna tell my story. And you know, my father being murdered, like it really was, like for me as a kid, I didn't really understand it. But the only way I could really comprehend it was through music. And I feel like we had that connection. So I just really wanted to go tell that story. And I told it beautifully and it resonated. And it was crazy because like our nervous, but Simon at the end, he came to the back. He was like, I don't know much about rap music. But like, you're gonna be a star. Like you, you have that power. And so ever since then, I went back to school. I was like, bro, I don't know what y'all got going on. But Simon Cow just told me on the star. Like, he don't think nobody is a star. - Exactly. Before I went on, he asked somebody. He was like, get off the stage. And I was like, oh my god, like, I was like, he was doing it like, it was like, get off the stage. And then I was like, bro, I gotta go next. But I was like, why would you do that? Like, bro. - Oh my god, you're so funny. Yeah, you definitely nailed that. And it was just, I mean, anytime somebody can put their heart into what they do, you know what I mean? I'm sorry to your father. Your father. - Yeah, thank you, thank you. - You said in people that you feel rhythm and pacing your basketball game are the same in the way that you do music. And that was dope for me to hear, because I actually see that with acting. Like, my lines is all rhythmic to me. And the same way that I think about music, when I'm pacing in the scene, I hear it in like a beat. You know, when I'm going, when I'm sparring back and forth, whether it's a drama or a comedy. So I'm curious for you, like, how does it show up for you and you and your zone? - Yeah, man, it's kind of like that. The Zen mode. You said I'm saying like, I know when I'm playing at a certain pace, like, my energy, my zen is like all aligned, like, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes you know when you're in that mode. - Yeah. - I don't know how acting go, but I feel like if I was in my character and I was hitting them lines, I might not even hit a director, say cut. - You feel me like? - Yes, it's like your mind goes. - You're in another mode. - That's right. - That's right. - With the basketball and with the music. You just got to play at your pace. - I got a question. - Yeah. - But I've never seen an actor or a movie or anything shoot. How is that like, you know, do you got to go in knowing the whole movie? - So you actually don't have to, I mean, some people do. Like if some people are like that. Like if it's like a theater actor or somebody that's used to like doing everything as a whole, they might know all they've seen to a certain degree. Myself, I've always done one scene at a time. Like I read the script, so I know what the whole movie is about, and then I just go from what we have on the day. So like every day, they'll say you have seen 1, 9, 10 or whatever. And I look at them either the night before, sometimes the morning goes. - I feel like that. - Your girl will be like, "Hey." And then I read my lines, I know what it's gonna be. And then we just shoot the scene and I move on to the next. - Yeah. - You just memorize them as much as you can. I mean, sometimes people don't be memorizing them. And you gotta do the scene again. But I feel like, you know, I just take a day by day, seen by scene. You know, that's real. You know, I'm gonna ask you for some more acting advice 'cause I got this British accent, I've been working on, since about the sixth grade, and I got it. I'm telling you, I, okay, let's go. So I can try one. I don't, I mind this a great, don't judge me. - Let's do it. ♪ Baby, it's this, he can pull her yeah ♪ - Oh, I just had the most incredible time in Chicago, and I cannot stop thinking about it. I just hosted my debut Airbnb original experience. 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And I know, you know what, when I'm from my homeland, we like to make a little soup in the morning. - Oh, soup. - I don't really, yeah. - What kind of soup? - It's like a tomato base. - Oh, I love tomato base. - Thank you. - Yeah, I love tomato with a little bit of green cheese. - Soup. - A little bit of a crumpet. - Oh, that was really good. (laughing) Oh my gosh. - Oh my gosh, you are too. - You're a failure, man. I'm so mad, you don't know your big three because I need to know I'm gonna find that out at some point. - We can figure it out. (laughing) - Okay, you talked about control more in the studio less on the core. What did that mean? Like, which one teaches you what about yourself? - Okay, let me tell you the, I feel like basketball is just a sport that keeps you humble, right? 'Cause in music, I can control everything. Like, we drop in this day, I'm gonna record this. But in basketball, it's not about me. Like, it's bigger than me. It's like, I'm working in a system to make something else work for some of them. - That's how I feel about acting. 'Cause it's a movie. It's a bigger picture. - Exactly. - Exactly, wow, that's pretty cool. - Yeah. - And it's just like, it's not about you. So basketball, I'm really talking just like, how to give better empathy, I think. That's what I'm trying to say. Like, empathize for other people and really understand their part of you. 'Cause I have to lead my team on. - I'm about to say, that makes sense that you think like that, and that's probably why you became a captain. - That's a thing. - You know how to get everybody together. - Yeah. And you know, I mean, I'd be really good too, but it's not, you got really good players that can't connect with a team. You got really good players that can't have people follow them to the promised land. So, you know, you gotta build that into your team. Like, even my music team, I'm trying to tell them, like, this won't work without my start at five. Like, I can't play three positions. Do you see what I'm saying? So, it's like all about empowering your team and making sure you got the right people around you. - Who are the people that you look at? I mean, maybe they could be in sports or maybe they're not that have that mentality that you, you know, that you followed or that you got, you know, encouragement from or inspiration from. - Man, I read a lot of books. So, it says book I read. It says black billionaire. He's passed, but his name was Reginald Lewis, right? And I just read his book. 'Cause I was trying to figure out, like I'm growing up and I'm seeing like some of my friends, they married, some of my friends pregnant. And I'm just like, why do people not go to the level that they want to be at, right? - Yeah. - And the book was like, man, the man Reginald, he was just different, right? But he had this mindset that he, I always wanted more, right? And that's my mindset, like I always want more, but like, it's never enough. And that's why sometimes I'm basking my accomplices like that 'cause I just feel like I want more. But man, it's just like, sometimes you're just different. Sometimes you're different and you just gotta live in there and you gotta accept it and you gotta make greatness out of that. And so that's what like, my mind says, so I say, "Regional law" is like big time. - I love that you said that because it's so true, when I was in my teenage years, I would research a lot and I would wonder actually the same thing that you're talking about. How do I, like, what's the difference between me and the people that I would be like, right? - And it was the way they think. It's just their mindset. And so I would start reading up on stuff too, watching interviews, looking up philosophers, like, "What is the way that you my f**king thinking?" - Right. - Because I'm about to change my sentences today. So I really love that I'm about to have to look up "Regional" to check it out. - Yeah, you gotta check them out. - You gotta check them out. - Thanks. - Now you said something really, really real in a full-core press. You said, "I just feel like people can't wrap their heads around too much greatness." Do you feel, and maybe that was just, not even you talking about yourself, but if it also includes you, do you ever feel underestimated even now? - Oh yeah, I would talk about me. But, but no, it was just like, I don't think people, like, the fact that I wrap at an elite level and then I play basketball at a elite level, they be like, like, there's no way she's doing this. Like, somebody told me, like, I know you're not writing your stuff, like I know you gotta go, right? I'm like, "Brush freestyle." Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they, they wanna, but it's, and even if people did write with me, they would that don't mean that they, that doesn't mean they'll take away from my ability. - That's right, but I do, I do love the writers though, don't get wrong. But like, it's like, when you, when you're doing that, like, I feel like people can't wrap their head around it 'cause we was taught, okay, you gonna go to school, you gonna get a job, you know what I'm saying? You gonna get some good benefits and you gonna retire. And so, somebody doing something a little bit out of the box scares people. - Yeah. - It scares them. So, I don't know, I feel like sometimes they can't wrap their mind around it, like, I think it's so cute what you're saying, what you're hitting on is like, you know, not to go too woo woo with it, but it's like, it's like a projection. It's like, if I'm told that I had to choose, and then you're not choosing. - Choose now, I'm feeling like, you need to choose. Otherwise, what I, the box I put myself in, becomes a prison, you know what I mean? And it's like, I'm sorry because you can back, by the way, the prison that you're in, you have the key to unlock it. - You got the key to the end, by the way, you supposed to be looking at me and knowing that. - Come on, key key, you know what I'm saying? - Come on, key key, I can't stop. - Literally. - I really feel you because I'm in the same kind of way, where it's like, I'm not trying to do anything, but be me, I'm not trying, like, it's just who I am. Whether it's this, that or whatever, I'm just doing me, it ain't meant to step on your toes. - Know what it is? See this thing on Twitter, got to say it. This picture of a baby elephant, right? They tied the rope around his legs and he couldn't move. So, he got older, he a big elephant now. They tied a rope around his leg. He won't even attempt the move now. - Ain't nobody. - It's just like them flies when they put that top over the cup. They keep trying to go up, they keep going to go up and once they eventually take that top off that cup, they fly no more. - They don't even fly no more. It's so true. And I've had this conversation with people in my life to think like, you know, it's not like you're trying to be an inspiration, but you would hope when people see you doing a thing, it can unconsciously give them permission to do the same. But when they're being like that elephant or those flies, it sometimes makes you feel discouraged because it's like, man, like, you can do it. You know what I mean? I want you to know that you can do it. But at the end of the day, those who see, do, those who don't want. - No, my friends, I try to put on like, I'm like, you could play this position right here. Like, I know you could do this with me and we can grow. And sometimes people might say, it ain't there yet. - Yeah. - It's true, it's true. Now, you're using your voice, speaking of, beyond the court and Mike, from ESPN's docu-series full court press to your own podcast, Best of Both Worlds. I mean, what was it like watching yourself back at a documentary? 'Cause I imagine that's probably very eerie. - Yeah, I didn't watch it. Like, I don't watch one thing. I don't watch stuff back. Like, the rap game never watched it. America's got talent. Don't, my mom'd be planning to turn it off. Like, I don't mean no, I got to get the income of it sometimes. Like, the documentary, the only reason I watched it was the first episode because we had the premiere. And then I seen it random when I was at the casino just on the thing. But I don't really, I don't really be watching but I watched that one. I ain't gonna laugh at it. It was like, honestly, like, when I see myself, it kinda just like made me think like, I really came from a small town. - What town? - Savannah, Georgia. - Oh my gosh, I love Savannah. - The rap? - I love Savannah then really. They're trying to do something. - Yeah, they getting it together. - They getting it together. - Anyway, sorry, go ahead. - No, it's getting together. They building all them buildings. But not like, it was like, I come from a small town. I could have been like, anybody like, I had every excuse to be like, this didn't go right in my life so I'm equipped. But like, all of my pain like made me persevere. And I just wanna show that to all the girls around the world. Like, every little girl, like, we're like, you can do it. And this, this, like, when we talk about mine, I said, like, that's what I preach. - Yes. - That's why I preach, like, 'cause we just be trapped in our own mind. I always tell them, like, when I leave the interview, I'd be like, my favorite quote. She who says she can, and she who says she can, are both usually right. And like, it's all about what you think in your mindset. So that's why I try to just preach that to the girls. 'Cause I know in my life, and I go like, if I'm on this little path right here, and I believe in myself, and I got my mama with me, like, I'm gonna be good. - Oh, girl. I feel like, I feel the feeling, sex, same way. (laughing) Everything you say, right now, 100% in this for them kids. - It's for the kids. - For the kids, that's what it is. That's what it's about always. Everything I do for the kids. - The kids. - Now, what made you wanna start your podcast? Maybe a little bit more when we talking about right now? - Back. - No, it's not. - I hate in sports, people creating narratives, right? And I hate that athletes are sometimes like, "Hey, bud, just play ball." You know what I'm saying? Just play ball, you know what I'm saying? But it's another story to tell, and it's so, I wanted to hear people that I was inspired by, like, ask them questions, like, you know what I'm saying? - Yeah. - Sit here and ask questions, like, how did you do, like, what was your mindset? Like, why would you, you know what I'm saying? So I'm just a real curious person. - I'm curious, and I love the information. I just wanna know, what can I take from your experience to make my experience better? 'Cause I feel like that's what life was about. My coach Bob Starkey, he was like, a good player, learns from their mistakes, a great player learns from the mistakes of others. So I'll just be trying, like, what did you do? Like, what was your process? Like, what was your mindset? That was really the main reason why I wanna start my podcast. - Oh my gosh, have you had a favorite guest so far? - Man, I had so many good guests, like, probably Candace Parker. - Oh, yes, that's dope. - I had a lot of people though, Alexis. I had a lot of great, I can't, I can't just never have. - Oh my gosh, but shout out to Candace. - Best, shout out to Candace Parker. - Okay, so we talked about you doing, you know, it came out a beast feature in Lil Wayne, on best of both worlds. Really, I mean, obviously that was a huge collab for you, but when you're working with anybody that you're collaborating with, whether it's in L.E. Choppa, to Rare, be a push and see, like, how do you decide what your future collab is going to be? - A lot of my collabs come like organically, right? Because I'm never really outside. I'm usually in a gym, I don't really go places, but when I want to connect with an artist like, and they give me that love back, like, you know how I go in the industry? People are connect, but it might not, I never have my heavy years down the line. Like, people weren't all of you like, bro, don't need to worry about them all. You know what I'm saying, bro? Those are the people that I kind of just genuinely connected with, and that's kind of how I want to do it. Like, I learn in the industry, it's a lot of stuff that you can do just because, yeah, I'm not going to do that. Like, if we're going to create, like, I want to be friends, like, I want to share that energy, like that real music in the studio, we create and we vibe and like, that's the vibe I want. So, that's kind of how I go about it. I'm not going to lie. - Yeah, that's real. - Yeah, that's real. Who are some of your inspirations? I know your father was also a musician, a rapper. So probably him, but outside of your dad, who would you say are people that you look up to? - Well, I would say like, Lauren Hill. - Yeah. - That no doubt about it. I grew up on Nikki. I grew up on Nikki when I was like, I swear I was a barb. - In the theatrics and the drama and the characters. It really is the next level. - No, just looking back as ours now, as you're seeing how she, her, just, you know, how she was into character. - That's right. - She was in a character, like, you know what I'm saying? I love that. And now, let me see, let me see, let me see. I love Queen Latifah. - Girl, come on you in 1998. (laughs) - Queen was always like. Queen is that girl. - I love Queen. - Queen is that girl. - And back was always, I love Queen. - Queen Latifah, she's my biggest inspiration. And then we'll go to Missy Elliott. Like just her creativity, just being a dark skin woman and like really just being in the game and just demanding that space. - And doing unique stuff. - Like it's my and now, I ain't gonna rain. - Yeah, how 'bout you doing girl? - Who's got the keys to my room? - Like insane, like it would never be another because you could tell that was just created out of pure joy and just like uniqueness. Like she didn't care. - She didn't care. - She didn't care without a doubt. - She didn't care. - Now your new album, "Flaw and B." So I'm a big R&B girlie. I got to know what made you want to make sure you got into your R&B pack girl. We needed that. - We needed that. - Literally. I was in a studio on day and somebody was like, I was like, "You know, do it, Elliott." Somebody was like, "You could sing a little bit." (laughs) Like you could hold a note and I was like, "For real?" And then I just start dabbling with it and then I dropped for your love before. And then I was like, "I gotta run this R&B thing back." And then I dropped "Flaw and B." And like, it's like my most streamed stuff. Like my song on the way is like, it's just out streams, all of my music every week. It's so irritating. - That's so funny. - It's so irritating right now. - I don't even know what the fans are gonna rock with. - Literally. - It's crazy. - Yes. - Now what's your writing vibe? Are you like, I got all the homies in the studio or is it just you and yourself and I? - Yeah, when I get in a studio, I'm a like gothic. (laughs) - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like all the lights off. No, maybe a candle, maybe. But no, it's just literally me and my engineer Flaco. He's been with me since high school. And yeah, shout out to Flak. And man, we just get into it. And I turn the lights off, I close my eyes, and I freestyle, right? And I pick the best type of, you know, melodies, flows, probably don't even know words, but, and then I write. Or sometimes I just have some of my heart and I write, but it's usually most of the time freestyle is for a friend. - That's fire. - For sure. Now, you talk about your dad, camouflage. Your name is kind of, is it after your dad? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, that's what's up. Now in your music, I mean, obviously he's an inspiration for you in your music. But then your mom is also your manager. That's a legacy emotion. Like it's kind of all interconnected. - It's beautiful. - What do you think is the first song that made you feel like, yeah, I'm continuing my dad's legacy. - Of his? - Just knowing that, yeah, if yours and just like that, I'm continuing with my family started. Oh, it was probably like my ready and not freestyle. Ooh, it's so good. Like, it's so good. (laughing) It was my like moment like flaw. Like, you can do something special. That was the one. - It is so cool. I think when like family is ingested in what it is you do, like I don't know if it's just like my mom was also an artist, you know what I'm saying? My dad's an artist, like my dad, they both did like theater and stuff like that. But when I started doing what I was doing, I definitely felt like there was a generational like evolution. When you feel that connection with you and what you do, it adds a different layer I think to like, what you want your legacy to be in like the passion that you put behind what you're doing. You know, like it's the answer to what they started. - It's something more, yeah. Like that's why I go so hard for this music and for my dad, 'cause I feel like my dad dream was just taking from him. - Right. His name was taking from him. So it's like a responsibility almost. I have to do this and I have to be great and I have to succeed. Like kind of sometimes you don't wanna wake up in the morning and you feel like, hey, it's bigger, like get up. - After the exact same thing. - So you got, that's what, then when people be saying, talking about their why, like that why it is really important. - Yeah, I mean, I feel like there's so many of our families, especially you know, black people like taking away from their lives or taking away in spirit. Like there's so many doors that were closed on them. And it's like, if I'm the baby that's got a breakthrough, which here I am. - Yeah, man, even just doing it for our people too. Like just thinking about all the things that they were robbed of that they didn't have the chance or the opportunity. Like you gotta put your best foot forward. That's why I was like, like people like you and it's just like our whole, like a lot of people that's just creating and giving space for other people. Like you know what I'm saying? Just like you let me come on this topic and give me my opportunity. Like that's like that's super dope and that's paying it for it. So yeah, I continue to do that. I couldn't agree with you more. And I'm so glad that you own the show. Now your mom is managing, like I said. My mom also is a man, my manager. - Okay, momager? - Yeah, exactly. So I'm gonna ask you how has it been over the many years that you've been doing your thing? You guys figuring out how to balance the whole personal mom and my business partner. - Yeah, let's go. - 'Cause it took my mom and my, myself years. - Okay, good. Okay, good. Well, I gotta say, figuring it out. 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I think I know everything. She knows she know everything that I think I know. And I had to start just-- I had to start listening to my mom. Yeah, for sure. Me too. I had to start listening. I didn't really shut up. Yeah, I had to start listening because I started-- OK, my mom did say that, and then it happened. She was like, oh, somebody, some producer, tell you when I tell you, you know what I'm doing. I'm like, all right, all right. But yeah, I had to just start listening for real for real. And just, you know, just kind of give my mother a spit. I'm like, my mama doing big deals. Like, she knows she's talking about, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I mean, speaking of the big deals, like what we're saying, I mean, you've inked over what, 40 NIL deals and become one of the highest earning student athletes. I mean, that's kind of crazy. And we've seen on the money that your mom is making smart moves. Like, you guys aren't just thinking about what's happening in this moment, but thinking about it long term. I mean, how are you thinking about it when you think about building your future and having these collaborations? Like, what mindset did you have to jump into? Oh my God, I get like, sometimes I check my bank account. I get scared, like, girl, yeah. Like, like, but I've never had this much money before. Like, I don't ever, like, I don't like, like, bro, like, my mama, she played tricks on me. I don't get to see my bank account all the time. She do, like, fear, like, fear check in. Like, hey, look what you got now. You better keep working until, like, when I see it, I'm like, wow, like, I don't want to lose it. Like, I don't want to be like everybody else and at least get a hundred million out of contracts and go bankrupt. I'm like, no, how can we create some wealth? And then for my little brothers, I'm like, my little brothers, they live a totally different life. Like, girl, totally different twins. My little brothers, sister, they are very much so living a different life. Yeah, they live a totally different life. I'm like, I just like, just got to go on for generations. So I try to invest. My mama, my mama set me up, but she, 20 acres. She brought me 20 acres of land. Well, I told her I wanted to buy some land. And she bought 20. And I was like, that's incredible. Exactly. Now we build a development about a whole community, like on the land. Oh my gosh, that is so dope. I really love real estate and stuff too. I mean, everybody has their thing of what they be thinking about. They want to start building a stock. Some people learn it, you know, but I do love real estate. I love land because that stuff can appreciate it. And then you can pass it down. I don't know, it feels much more real and tangible. Yes, exactly girls are shut up some moms. When was it for you that you feel that financial literacy hit? Because I talk about it all the time, like, economics, I mean, it's not really in schools enough for us to really know what's happening. I mean, you have business managers, but then there's so many different types of business-managed men. And what is your business? Right. It's like, how did you start rolling yourself, getting yourself to be understanding that? It's crazy to say that my 12 year high school, but like, we had a small, little, terrible course. Cartoon talking about debit or credit. Financial, it was like a week long course, right? Literally. And I'm like, it intrigued me. 'Cause I'm like, in my mind, I'm broke right now, but I'm gonna be rich, so I need to know about this. Here we go. So I started reading my own books. I started watching more podcasts, earn your leisure, stuff like that. Just to kind of understand what a research, you know. And then, when I got to college, NIL came, I started getting money, they started giving us people. And then, I was like, bro, I got to educate the people. This year, I did the NIL deal with experience. And we relieved $5 million in debt for 5,000 families in Louisiana. And every time I won a basketball game this year, it was $100,000 added to the pot, an internment. And we had six games. So we ended up, like, relieving $5.6 million in debt. And I'm doing now a financial literacy, a whole thing program, whatever it's coming. But just about helping people in our community, Just about. about finding and literacy and things like that. So once I learned about it, and I'm still learning, I was like, I got sure this information. So people understand how to use their money. - Yes, yes. - I love what you say, 'cause those are my favorite type of collaborations. Like anytime I can collaborate with someone, they can help me get back to the community. - To the people. - You can count on your girl. - Right, right, right. - To be involved. Because that's what it's about. Like, how you, okay, we helping me, but how I'm helping my face. - I'm gonna help my people. That's it, I always wanted to do a deal like that, 'cause I'm like, bro, like, okay, I'm gonna get my money. We, we, we, we, we, we, we, cool. - Yeah. - But like if you can really help people, like, I hate a deal, or it's like, yeah, we gonna give them to this charity, but nobody ever really is hurt of it. - No, yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - But this, I seen videos, the girl made a video on like, fly chain, this show face on the mail. She was like, bro, you just, you just, you just changed these things for me. I was like, wow, like, that's what I want to do. I want to impact your real being a fat, a fat, a fat, a fat, a good partner. - What is one less than I mean, you might have already said it, but if there is something that you could say a little tidbit to a young person that's just getting name money stuff going or trying to figure out, what would you, what advice would you give them on financial literacy? - Just, um, use your credit card, like your debit card, like, don't even use your debit card for like, just, you know, use your credit, um, pay them people back on time. - Yeah. - But also just don't spend more than you, then more than you have, like, I'm so cheap, y'all, like, no legitimate, I'm so cheap, like, my bro's like, this crumb heart, I said, baby, this is forever 21, like, I don't play, like, like, I, I, I did it a couple of it right. - Courages, yeah. - I mean, have your splurges, but it's like, your splurges should be making sense to what you got in the account. - Right. - You shouldn't have to be getting more debt in order to have the splurges. - Right. - The splurges should be within the amount of what you're in the parameter, yeah. - Yeah. - But just save, like, just save, like, I got so many good boutiques now. - You don't even need to. - Literally, literally. - Literally. - Literally, the boutiqueses was tear me up. - [laughs] - I didn't keep showing them to me on the algorithm. - No, literally. - No, literally. - Take top shots too. - I'll be like, bye. - And you'll be just like, oh, it's just swinny down. - It's just swinny. - No, it's not. - Because I played around. - I don't say that. - Yeah. Anyhow. Now, I mean, I feel like when I was younger, women's sports didn't get half of the attention that is getting now. And it really makes me so happy. Because I remember when I was a kid, my first album, so I'm cool, I would literally have time. - What? - Yes, y'all got to go and look that up on your job. - Yeah. - And your girl was like, yes, yes, yes, yes. - So I'm really happy to see. I mean, the attendance is way up. - That was awesome. - The games feel like a freaking concert. - It's a movie. - Do you feel like the N.I.L. actually helped to boost that spotlight? Like, is that a part of what has changed? Like, I'm sure it's more than one thing. But what do you think has, you know, was it the deals and the camera? - Yeah. - Like, what made it more popular now? Because I mean, women have been killing it. - Yeah, literally. - And the game was always gaming. - I can't put my finger on it, but I'm going to just say social media. - I'm sure. - With the world win of N.I.L. - With the world win of just players being able to now show their personalities. Wanting off the court. So I give social media a lot of it. Because now, people are invested in the player's lives. Like, oh, will she post it on TikTok? Will she wear it? So I think it's different. But I think it's all kind of just world win into a big moment. And then now you have superstars and now you have all type of things. So, I mean, I think the woman sports is just on the rise. Not even just basketball, woman sports. And so, you know, I think it's just important that we just keep amplifying it. But you got to buy in right now, because it's going to be huge. - Yeah. And then also it's interesting to me too, because once you guys go pro, sometimes there's a big discrepancy in the paint. - Oh, absolutely. - Which is, what is the reason for that? And did that kind of help you make your decision of not wanting to go pro so soon? - Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no doubt about it. I mean, this year they're negotiating the CBA. So they're bargaining about, you know, payment and, you know, other things like that. And so I was just like, I'm going to wait. I'm good in college. You know, I'm making a lot of money. But they still figuring out the CBA. So I was just like, and then they might go and strike. Like I seen that too. Like they literally might go and strike. And so I was like, yeah, no, they don't really have it together right now. I'm gonna stay extra here. - Yeah, you just want to see what's going on. - But the money though, like, you know going into the W&B ain't like, just how it is right now, like you not finna-- - And what is the reason? Like is it just because you guys can't take as many deals? Or is it like what that? - But the salary is just the salary. But I be telling people, like, well, my partner is that I work with. And college, we cool. That's just gonna become a bigger deal. - Right. - It's gonna become an endorsement. - Exactly. - It's just like my mind. I'm like, the salary is the salary. But their endorsement deals should be able to remain. - Yeah, for sure. I think people got a lot of misconfusion about that. - Right. - For sure. - But I do hate the discrepancy of the pay wage. Because we got NBA players. It's like $10 million and up. And then the women are like 100 to 200,000. - Bro. - It's so insane. - Cooler flag new deals is like $60 million. Like he was the number one pick. I think it's like near $60 million. And like the number one pick for the WBA. If I'm, yeah. - It's like $150 million. - But the funny thing. And it's like, it's like it's terrible. And I hate that. But I do like the point that you're bringing up. Because it's the same thing for our discrepancies in our industry. - Wow. - Like, what we get to pay with our salaries and the comparison to males or even racially different. - Yes, I see that. - But the truth also is it's like the brand deals or the brand deals. - Mm-hmm. - You know, the salary can be one thing. And that definitely should be continued to be fought. But don't get it twisted. Because people are making their money a lot of other ways. It's more than you would expect them to be. So it's kind of like why we want to get those system changing. I do want to also tell people like there's no one way to skin a cat. Your money don't have one door to come into. - Now that is a fact. - And that's what I'm trying to get people to understand. Like if you build your brand right now in college, you will make. - I love how the legs ended up doing this. - Yes, because you tired me up a little bit. - Because you know what I'm talking about. - Yes. - And I always see like the stories about like tarotage appearances and actors and pay cuts. And you know, so I'm very, very interested in that. But yeah, man, like if you build your brand, if KK Palmer dropped into college basketball right now and you said you were a star basketball player, even if you weren't a starkey, you won't make a good 10 million. - That's what I tell people. That's why I always try to put, you know, when I changed my career from just being a traditional actor and I started working on my social media content creating in my brand, it all changed. - And bags everywhere. - And so it was like then it became a choice of if I want to do this job, not I have to do this job. And if they're not fan what I want or if I care about the material, I can decide it by choice. Because I have this, I have this, and I have that. And that's why I always say like, while you're looking at people telling them they're doing too much, maybe you're not doing enough. - You're not doing enough. - Get another choice. - I've been telling my friends y'all post that content. People don't understand what like building your brand can do for you. - Man, it changes every year. - Your brand, I didn't understand till I got into these rooms that my face gave me leverage in business. - My mama told me when you were outfit, the outfits more expensive. - Get into it. - Get into it. - Get into it. - Get into it. - What you touch, it's because of you. Girl, I love that. You better put these people on. So there's another thing I want to talk about and get your opinion on too when it comes to the NIL deals coming in because then it seems like people give y'all more pressure on. If you're going to be taking that money, you got to kill it on the wall. - Right, right. - I mean, even Shaq was saying some stuff like that about what it was on the money game. If you making that money, you got to be perfect. - Yeah. - So how do you feel? I mean, do you agree that that's kind of true or do you feel that the pressure that you get from now making money on the side is, you know what I mean? - Yeah, and for me ain't no pressure because let me tell you, I feel like this is a long time coming. These schools have been making billions of dollars off athletes for years and years and years, right? Now, me personally, I don't play for the chick. Like, that's when I, when I, I'm kind of grateful is, it's a grateful thing. I let them out kind of, like, why I get paid to do what I was going to do anyway. I was going to get up and go work up at 5 a.m. anyway. Like, this is not an incentive for me. So you can't worry about that. You can, you can, you can use the motivate you. - Yeah. - Because sometimes I be lifelive. You go hand in this game. Well, you got an NIL deal at the dough. I don't, I don't let it be like, oh, if I don't play this well, like, I'm not deserving of my money. You know, I work. So, you know, like, that's just what's going to come with it. - Well, you mentioned that work it. I just wanted to quickly ask because I like to work out too. Like, what, what are your, what for you as an athlete? Your type of sport. - Yeah. - What is your main focus? Are you really heavy on the cardio? Are you just doing like the different, like, practice things of the, of y'all's style? - You know what I'm talking about? - What are you doing? - No, I got in your workout. - Okay, you know, for me, well, it's just like what you want to do. Like, I want to become faster. So, I'm working on a lot of agility, speed. I want to be stronger so I'm working on my strength. And I have to work on my cardio every day. Like, if you want to be a real athlete. - That's that basket basket. Y'all that running up and down the cart. - Think about it. We don't stop. - Y'all want to kill me. - Yeah. - I feel like, oh, you killed me with this. Like, I can't deal with it. Like, girl, I've tried to dribble and run at the same time. I'm going to die. That's easy. - No, it's not at all. - Not at all. - But when I've been seeing regular people play basketball, I'll be like, I forget how hard this sport is. - But you're great at it. - Yeah, literally. But no, like, that's like, it's whatever you want to focus on. Like, I do a lot of skill work though. So, I workout two times a day on the court. Basketball skills, hour, hour, 45. And then, you know. - Girl, you're fabulous. - Thank you. - Then I get my little pump in. My workout, gotta say strong. And then, the biggest part is recovery though. You know, you gotta recover your body. - Get it to that quickly because I'll be, sometimes, y'all do the most craziest things y'all freezing. And then y'all hot. And then y'all, like, what do y'all be doing? - Contras. So, you ever did cryo? - Yes. I've done it before. I mean, it's painful. But I mean, I try to hold on. - Yeah, I can't do it. Oh, I did it one time. It was over with me. But like, you know, they say LeBron James spent a million dollars on his body. You got to understand how reporting recovery is like if you don't replenish this like how your body gonna work My coach someone Augusta told me it's like you want to put no no standard gas in a Ferrari like you gonna put premium in it You know, I'm saying you gonna put the highest grade so you know just really take care of your body is really important I try to tell younger athletes this stretch in the morning a 10-minute stretch like you know say things like that I've been trying to do the same thing I'm in my head up Savannah one time my deems. I said look I've heard about that your husband spends a lot of money on his body Please tell me where y'all go. Tell me where y'all go for the lymphatic drainage. I just need help If she sent me the number I said Savannah you watch Yeah, real one give me these LeBron contacts because I need to keep in my body up Okay, um, like we were saying I mean you're a team captain now and that leadership role It means something different than you know today then five years ago What does being a leader in this era of college sports means to you? Oh, man It means a lot to me because I had to learn how to lead. You know, I'm saying and it's hard It's hard to lead when today you wake up right and don't nobody know like you see probably got the worst call in your life Nobody know, but you got to keep it P you got to come do your job You got a clear cheer and clap for others. Yeah, you said I'm saying you got to add like everything okay, and you have to because like This is what I signed up for like this my job like every day. I gotta play basketball. No matter what's going on That was the hardest thing that I had to learn and last year I battle with that like I like being like my head like I didn't understand how important it was no matter what type of game. I'm having no matter what type of day I'm having to pour into my teammates. Yeah Cuz they get a lot of a confidence for me like you we go as you go. That's what they was telling me and so that's where I really That's what I really learned so this year is gonna be like my walking testimony like am I gonna be able to all the lessons that I don't learn all the stuff that I learned all the things that I know I need to change am I gonna be able to do that and I'm Excited to take on that challenge because I want to be that person like I want to be consistent I want to be somebody that my teammates can count on like I want to be you know reliable and consistent with myself So that's gonna take a whole another type of discipline within my routine. You know within my energy like when I when I pray my connection with God It's gonna take a lot from me, but I'm willing to take on that challenge cuz I really want to be great And I really want my team to do something and I know if I bring greatness every day, and I set that standard Yeah, no choice but to follow you know what I'm saying. So that is like that. That's where my and that's where I'm being intentional about this I have no doubt in my mind that you're gonna accomplish all that in more. Thank you. I have no doubt in my mind Every lucky to have you. Thank you really so before we get into our gang You know the fans want a little bar or something. So me head us with your favorite line You ever read just you know one little quick one fool favorite line. I ever read. I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna wrap the what I told you about when I said you ready or not. Yep. Okay. You see I'll be listening. You do be listening I have to do another one there. Okay It's crazy. I'm the one they want to represent young black girl. I could probably be the president I'm the voice of the youth you hit my tone. I think it's evident. I know who I am They mistake my confidence forever against I I think it's different because I don't take my clothes off I just played my road. I can't sell my soul. I just shoot a three-poor my arm up I guess I show off. They sleep. I let them doze off. I wake them up. Oh, yeah, it's roll call my chocolate is beautiful I'm rocking it per usual. I'm loving every piece man from my top and to my cuticles trying to play with my head Real love won't be confusing you. I learned make sure that when you put in first is also choosing you Intellectual and like I'm letting you know. And it's like I got myself together. I'm saying hi sis. Yeah Queen queen everything. Okay, now let's get to this gal I'm gonna ask some questions fall just got some questions, but only if we miss the shot. We shoot So um go have fun. I'm gonna ask me no question Did you miss I made it I blinked you made it Okay, well, I'm gonna ask you a question anyway because you're right. You're a professional athlete. That's not really fair. Okay, so Hmm WNBA Mount Rushmore who are your top four? Oh my oh We got to go Maya more. Okay, Maya more. We got to go share on swoops. Okay, come on. Cheryl. We got to go camera's Parker rookie MVP in the same season Ooh, rookie to your MVP and then we got to go Super super. That's for my watch. My watch. Okay, that's it. That's a valid list. Shout out to them. Okay, you dropped my confessions and had the internet Shoot your shot. Should I should be on the remix or what? Hell yeah, I think they'll be dope You know, but honestly, it would also be great if women were on the remix like if we had like a little more riot scientists Cut out. That's facts. Okay. All right. She don't get it again Just that you don't play with professions. Okay, you're on the double XL freshman cover and they hand you the mic What's the headline under your photo? They can hand me the mic. Yeah, what's the headline under your photo? Oh, fly jay have the best double XL freestyle. Yeah, that's what you're gonna say Jay got bars. She D freshman of the XXL. Yes, no complaints. Here we go. Come on. Give me some Kiki okay You played a lot of roles, but shoot your shot. What's one character? You love to play that hasn't happened yet Well, you know, they got that new bodyguard coming Yeah, let me do the wrong I don't already did too many Whitney Houston movies. I can't you know what I can do the movie that Whitney Houston was in no doubt about it. Come on bodyguard Okay, it's you actually I was about to go again Wow, you really was gonna stun on me like crazy. So I can miss I can miss. Okay, so let me see if you're given a signature deal tomorrow Are we going high top or low top? Oh, I can say everybody's saying like the low tops are causing injuries Really yeah, they saying that it was like, you know, the kill these tears like everybody who wore them like had a low top shoe, so I still can wear high tops. I'm gonna go low top. I'm gonna low top. I can't do it, right? I can do mid top All I know is I want the shoe because I know the shoe will be eating down You know what I got something for you girl. You need to hook me up. Oh, yeah, I got something for you. Okay, here we go That was really stupid Okay, you always say book what's one role you passed on that you will reclaim the day if they offered you again That would reclaim today. Yes, I haven't passed on a lot of roles. I mean I passed on this one movie that uh What does his name is great actor? He did La La land. He also did drive. He also did Barbie Ryan Gosling. He did a movie called half Nelson where he was a drug addict teacher and his student was selling him drugs And Sharon was like you can't go from spelling to selling drugs Yeah, yeah, I would have been a dealer. She was like no, no, um, I don't know if I would have wanted to move again But I would have I would have liked to work with Ryan Right, but I agreed with her. You know, we couldn't go from spelling to the kids. She would have been a drug Yeah, that's that's my thought on there All right, come on. Here we go. Oh I'm so glad you doing this She's doing this just for me. This is literally just for me. She's playing. Okay, so What is one label, one brand or platform that slept on you, but you know who's been the block? Hmm If that even exists slept on me Okay, they ain't sleeping on me, but like I need a Chipotle to come on. Everybody know if you follow me if you follow me You know how I feel about Chipotle and my daily income I need a special flageh Chipotle bowl what we got in it go We got beans they go call me a big bag. I know it. I know it on the command Black bees triple-statton a little bit of pico double corn cheese walking lettuce Well, that's the chocolate bowl. That's the flageh Chipotle, but don't play we need it today Got a sound and I keep you in a commercial for sure. Okay. I pop up in them Okay, we go Yeah, oh my gosh It's you by the way. This is how your leadership is the or find me or you're or find me or a fire. I like that all right Shoot your shot a product you last used that you enjoy and would love to collaborate. Oh, that's a really good question The product I last used that I would like to collab with You know, I really did just have some fun wearing some Gucci hmm the other day So Period, okay last one last one All right, I'm trying to make this one. I'm going. We go between - She walks in this muck. I'm trying to pick the best last one. DM confession, who's in there? And why haven't you answered yet? - I ain't gonna lie, one of the craziest deals I got was Teddy Riley, like, "Oh my gosh, I love Teddy." - Bro, he DM me, he was like, "Your music, your eye." And it was like, "I'm like, this a prank." You know what I'm saying? But it was him verifying everything. - Teddy Riley, incredible. - Teddy Riley, damn. - Wow. - That was crazy. - Well, we're in to get on Teddy Riley's DM. - And you are just amazing, Flajay. Seriously, I already knew you were amazing, and I was already a fan, but this conversation with you, like, you're a really remarkable young woman. I'm so glad that you came on, baby. This is Kiki Palmer. - I'm so glad to be in here right now. - And both my ads, very cute. (laughing) Gays a love. - Oh, they got it. - Flajay isn't just balanced into careers. She's building something way bigger than a brand. She's showing us what it means to walk in your purpose, honor your roots, and keep reaching for more. Whether she's rapping, running the court, or representing for the next generation, she's doing it all with intention, inspiring others to dream bigger, move smarter, and own their power. She's not just changing the game. She's changing what's possible. And baby, this is Kiki Palmer. ♪ Baby, this is Kiki ♪ ♪ Baby, this is Kiki Palmer, yeah ♪ Baby, this is Kiki Palmer, is hosted and executive produced by me, Kiki Palmer. Lucas Siegel is our post-producer. Our producers are Lauren Hampton and Molly Nestor. Hillary Estee McLaughlin is our executive producer. Production services provided by Evolution Media. Our original theme song was written and performed by me, Kiki Palmer. For team Kiki, my producer is Sharon Palmer. For Wondery, our Managing Producer is Olivia Fonte. Senior Managing Producer is Nick Ryan. 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