NFL Week 2, Jayden And Caleb Go Down, The Browns Win A Game, The Chargers Are Rock Bottom + Who's Back Of The Week

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It was quite a day. We had some insane upsets. We had some injuries. We're going to get to it all. I'm sure the sickos and perverts are loving that this show is out right now. PFT. Really enjoying it. They're going to they're lining up. Actually, we can't do a podcast because it's HIPAA. Yeah, illegal to share this stuff with you. We'll get to all of it, but the one thing that I could say that could maybe cheer us up a little bit is that both our quarterbacks got hurt. We don't know the full extent to both their injuries and how long they'll be out. But neither of our teams lost to the Cleveland Browns and to Sean Watson. It's very true. So Zach, like in a weird way, that could be considered worse than anything else that happened on Sunday. There's pain all the way around. There's been all the way around. We're going to do fastest two minutes. We're going to get to every single game. We're going to do who's back at the week. It is a football Monday with PMT. 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Not being able to Johnny Cash in the end zone had Bears fans saying they hurt themselves today to see if they could still feel. After Caleb Williams went down to the fourth and was carted off the field sports are done anyway right teach very dumb boom Vikings nine Bears three. We're going to Los Angeles. Readers are in town to play the targers and Justin Herbert Hoover had his fans in a great depression screaming damn Kirkland signatures cousins get a bulk discount on tech touchdowns will tray Tucker Carlson help the writers move in the right direction meanwhile the charges are smashing the widespread panic button because Herbert's putting the INT in midsy and his Ole Miss might be tiring about too much to what to do when he's celebrating. And McCoby Dean said goodnight sleep tight don't let the bedbugs bite the red hurts 26 the targers 14 we now head to a soggy metal lands where memes was on the scene for the Jets and Packers. In soggy meant life Marsha Mendes Lloyd can treat you better than Josh Jacobs can as he scores the first touchdown of the game we skip immediately to the fourth quarter. Jets leading 17 14 the Jets would dread punting it to sky breathe more as he returned it inside the 20 to set up the game time feel goal Frank the third right called a shotgun run on fourth and one for Braille and Allen and the chipmunks just to get stuffed Aaron Glenny balls must have heard himself eating too much pussy and Nashville last week because he forgot how to call timeouts and how overtime rules work. In overtime Luke getting the white van nests and the Packers defense gets a sack they get the ball back to Jordan Jordan Hudson loves Bill Bell checked big old titties to lead to Trace Mac that all on the floor to kick the game when he feel goal to end the game. Packers 20 Jets on the team thanks beam we got a Foxboro where Hank is there for Steelers Patriots in Foxboro. Trade theon Greyjoy Henderson seemed to get tackled after a five yard game but what said but said what is dead may never die as he broke a tackle. Foulks out right and scampored in for a 39 yard touchdown. Fond to see owner. So Geron so Connor was seen fist pumping and dry humping in the box. King of the Northern Lights and in Aurora Barara Borealis knocked in two field goals and Aaron Sir Rodger Sir Roderick Castle dropped back before getting beheaded and fumbled scooped up by Elijah Wood Ponda who ran through the fields of mortar on the way to deal the score and skill to seal the game. Fuck how's New England wins 20 to 30. Thanks Hank and Baltimore for the Ravens home opener and a belief that new head coach Jesse U.S. Minter would continue to control every quarter and it was going that way early as Derek Henry Kissinger bombed his way to the end zone for an early score and Lamar found Rashad Tateman who looked like he had been working with the special needs all weekend with how open he got but Baltimore forgot that it's not a matter of if but when everyone gets shocked over as a QB was in sync with Chris Karpatrick Alave in the second half as a duo continually tore up the Baltimore hearts and defense the game came down to the end but it was Byler Schuck who came out and scored both ways with his arms and legs handing the Ravens their first L GB to Q plus the states go marching 24 Ravens 17 we now go to Nashville where Glendipal is eating all that pussy with Max hey hey say some pussy for the rest of us Glendipal god i can't get over Glendipal we had we had over to Nashville where Cam Marsier awards said hey i'm Cam and i feel like kicking Phil ease ass today and gave the Titans an early lead after a terrible jail in her it's goal i'm pick but after a sake one injury Frank the tank biggs me stepped in and scored in spite of an incompetent offensive line Jeffrey Dahmer Simmons was charged with multiple counts of murder towards the Eagles O line and calls jail and hurts second interception that set up Joey Cry Eagles Cry for a potential game winning field goal but with tears in the stance for all the Eagles fans in town visiting music city Darius Rucker Cooper said it's all right all right i got all we need it's all right we're up three as he snuck inside the back of the end zone to put the Eagles up for good Eagles 24 times 20 thanks Max we now head down to Tampa where there was a hell of a rainbow and Zack in Tampa Chevy Chase McLaughlin goes all Sunday afternoon live from 59 yards out splitting the uprights for three points and a Tampa Bay lead as the kicker on kicker crime continues Andre the giant smith answers with a kick from the top rope 50 yards out oh brother kick is good to the second half DeShawn Watson and Watson reminds the Browns fans he's for the people with a path to Zenzel on a train back to Boston placing it right over his stout lefty shoulder for a touchdown sticking it to the bucks for the first time this season DeShawn White Watson is had done yet. He doubled McQuist the ball to shake and blink white heart. Who shouts? Help me Jesus. Help me Jewish God. Help me Allah. Help me Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise, use your witchcraft on me to score this touchdown. It worked. Touchdown Browns, Cleveland 23, Tampa Bay 19. Thanks Zach. Out in mile high where the Jaguars picked up where they left off to start the game. As Bashuel Tutankham and scored in the first half, having Broncos fans calling for their mummy. Bo Nick struggled early again during a terrible interception to Jordan is better than LeBron Lewis and the Broncos were in a dark place heading into halftime. It looked like Sean Pete Manning checked to an audible at halftime and put his nuts on the training table because Denver came out a different team in the second half with Bo. Price of the Nick's just went up taking over the game and letting everyone in the AFC West know that Beaumars coming. That one was bad teach. It was Jonas and Daya Coleman who said what what are we doing to his Broncos teammates after scoring the go ahead touchdown and putting an end to the drama. Liam Cohn Brothers found out there is still a country for old men like coach Peyton and that's Bronco country. Let's ride Broncos 20 Jaguar 13. We finished in the big D where Akami sought to interrupt all the big parade plans once again. An early on CD, Lamb Chop, skipped into the end zone, leaving Commander's fans singing the song that never ends. Yes, it goes on and on my friends. The commies started singing it. I know what it was and they'll keep singing it forever because they're quartered suck. As he ate up Mikey stand real still yet again early for a touchdown. The commators fought back behind Jayden Daniel Day Lewis taking a 3-10 to you must put your elbow back in and sock it again. Leave me Commander's fans to scream. Look what they did to my boy. They massacred my boy. Blake Joan Hall Ferguson climbed broke that mountain twice with his hands firmly grasping Prescott's balls at the end zone. Meanwhile Brian Chut, Chut, Chut, Chut, Chut, Chut and Hymer turned Caleb down for what? Coming with you play after play as Terry McClure and Hill got killed softly over and over again. Everything hurts and everything sucks. Dallas 37. Comrie scored it and that was week two in the NFL fastest two minutes. I like that you use Johnny Cash as well. Fastest two minutes football season. It's brought to you by Chevy football season this year and whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff. There's one ride that's always game ready. It's the Chevy Silverado. There's a reason Chevy's called the heartbeat of America and Silverado keeps that heartbeat strong, whether you're towing, hauling or tailgating Silverado lets you show up strong and tackle any task with best in class standard torque, the most functional bed and the advanced tech that's football guy approved. Check out current offers on the 2026 Silverado at Chevy.com. Okay week two in the books we've got chiefs, Colts second half which we'll get to at the end. That was a different than week one. I would say PFT. Well I mean right off the bat let's just address the elephant in the room why people are listening to show the Philadelphia water dogs or world championships and PLN again we did it again. Bastard versus sports. I was locked in another ring. Me and Big Cat locked in on the cross today. There was maybe you guys can tell me what happened in the NFL. PFT and I I think I said to PFT hey it's 11 to four water dogs with four minutes left in the third quarter and then PFT like 15 minutes later was like hey it's 12 to four water dogs with like eight minutes left in the fourth quarter. That was and we did it. Well we did it. We loved it so much. I announced the cave we are world champions. PLL is once again ours and then like 25 minutes later Big Cat was like hey the water dogs won the PLL. Yeah we did it. So we like we celebrate we got celebrate double double that's how I'm going to hit us best honors and sports. Yeah it was great. Art's in the forest suck my dick Denver. All right no people are listening for two games specifically we'll do we'll bookend them so because we obviously go in chronological order so we'll start with the Vikings and bears and then we'll end with the commanders and cowboys. Vikings nine bears three. The big story obviously is kill Williams getting hurt. I don't know what extent the injury extent has gone from like when he first went down it was like oh my god he just tore his Achilles because we were all watching it together and at first it looked like he maybe got like swiped and that was maybe an ankle sprain but then when they showed the replay it's like nope he didn't get touched so it's non-contact which is obviously the two worst words you can have when it comes to an injury so initially I was like ankle or Achilles now it seems like hamstring the extent of the hamstring we don't know he was walking without a boot in the locker room with a limp I don't know it's suck but it's so weird to watch an injury like that and be like okay it's just a hamstring you know what I mean like because thankfully you have the worst in your mind and then when you get it gets upgraded to just a hamstring you're like okay we can handle a hamstring the nice thing about a hamstring is it's not gonna it will not affect anything outside of the self-contained season yeah I I'm I'm assuming he's gonna be out for four to six weeks that's my mental assumption that I've braced myself with anything more obviously it will suck a lot but it also doesn't suck as bad as an Achilles where Achilles you're thinking like he might not be the same player again as for this game the Bears were dog shit absolutely one of the worst games well actually the worst game since like the first two weeks of last season that Ben Johnson is coached in for the Bears they were just bad all around penalties offensive line miscommunication Caleb didn't look sharp though the weather obviously a factor but you can't blame it all on the weather because it was just a like a joke of an operation through and through guys dropping balls guys missing blocks just a really really bad game fumble at the goal line like there's I actually think in this is gonna sound like people gonna be like oh you're coping here I if Caleb doesn't get hurt the Bears might win that game because I do think he would have scored on that play but still they didn't deserve to win that game because they played awful and the Vikings defense did a lot more and Brian floors is an absolute maniac and blitz the fuck out of the Bears and kind of right now like through three games I think the Bears are one and two against Brian for pin Johnson one and two as a head coach against Brian Flores but Brian Flores got the better of of the Bears offense when he goes up against them and it was just they had the Vikings defense had two turnovers 10 QB hits seven pass breakups they were everywhere Carson Wentz did just enough he threw he threw one should have been Carson Wentz what the fuck are you doing pass in the first quarter that Devon Bush just couldn't hold on to and then after that he played clean played clean football and it's like they just the Vikings were the better team and you can't like obviously the game shifted at the end where it's like I hope Caleb's okay but it shouldn't minimize the fact that the if you were looking for cold water for this bear season it just got dumped on us because whatever happened last week was incredible and it was totally different this week so hopefully it's a motivator because I'm it's a week-to-week league and I'm not like oh my God the Bears are in big trouble outside of the injury this was a bad game oh really bad game really disappointing the silver lining is the Bears are still averaging over 30 points a game yes which is pretty crazy sure you had a big three yeah the Vikings they are they become the first team in NFL history to win four straight games with four starting quarterbacks four different starting quarterbacks so it goes back to Brosmer 9 Kyler Murray Carson wins damn no team has ever done that in the history of the league that is like that is maybe the the best at that KOC could ever come up for for himself yeah how he likes to do this quarterbacks that's kind of cool that they were able to do this this had nothing to do with the quarterback obviously the way that they want it is more about I would say it's more about the elements and more about Brian Flores being a mad science I will say they'll like a perfect probably even honest Brian Flores kind of a pervert yeah he is but we we we make we joke about Carson Wentz Carson Wentz played like to the weather in the situation where it's like don't don't give like this is gonna be a low scoring game don't give the other team of really bad turnover in an inopportune time and he didn't like he played clean that like that and the the turnover like the Bears had 14 plays in the red zone the Vikings had one and the in the Bears lost nine to three that's just disgusting yes gross game it's just disgusting game to watch it was a classic gross game it was not not pleasant to watch I'm glad that Caleb's not badly hurt I can can I can I tell you my experience with the hamstring sure so an elite athlete such as myself yes I had the grade two slash grade three back when we went down to see Bella check I also had that injury last year but yes you had the grade to yeah okay so I I then tried to kick a fuel goal about four weeks later did not work at LSU mine was about eight weeks until I could jog with with no rehab but mine was you know my rehab was kind of like like you got in a stretching it's just a week how much physical therapy did you do I I googled hamstring stretches a couple times actually I did do some stretches I'd say three times yeah when I did it last year I did one week of physical therapy and I was like okay I got it I got the Yeah, I get it. I get it. Now, I still have a ball of muscle that I can feel behind my left hamstring. So, you don't want that from Caleb. You want him to actually take it seriously. I hope he find. I think he'll be okay long-term. It was scary more than anything. Yeah, I was scary. And also, it sucks because, I mean, hamstring is one of those injuries. You don't want it to become something more where it's like, I mean, you think of like Tyree's haliburton or someone, you know, like where you get a hamstring injury. You can rush back, then you get hurt more. So, I think they have to be very cautious about it. You hope the Tyson agent can tread water. But more than anything, I was just like, I want, like, if Caleb doesn't get injured in this game, I still would be like, that was just a horrendous, horrendous bear's football game. Like, one of the worst in, like I said, over a year and all the good vibes, they're not going away. Like, I still believe in this team. I obviously believe in Ben Johnson. That's not changing over one game. He's going to hopefully be able to use this to be like, hey, we ain't, we aren't, we aren't shit right now. It could be a good thing. Like, we're not, like, that was a bad game. The eight penalties, 58 yards, we had a couple times where just penalties over and over. Bradbury at center is a problem. Like the Drew Dolman retiring situation is like, that's starting to feel like a, ooh, this might not be the same exact offensive line. The Andre Swiss Fumble, which I, that just sucked at the one yard line. It just was a, it was a game that you want to forget for many, many reasons. And the bears playing like crap was a big part of that. Yeah. How are you, how are you feeling now on the idea of building a dome because I watched the game. Yeah. And if you've watched the bears for a long time, you probably have a different perspective than if you have only really paid closer to the bears recently. Yeah. But the bears recently, yes, there's bear weather and in the playoffs, they had, they use the weather to their advantage. But for the most part, it's been a bear weather city, but they just lose a lot of ugly games. Right. Well, it's always, yeah, it's been the defense is you can win those games with defense. We don't have the defense this year, right? I don't, listen, they, they, they've decided they need a new stadium. I, I wish they wouldn't go to move out of soldier field. Yeah, a dome would have fixed today. It was, it was a gross game. It was, it was clearly like, you just couldn't, and I don't know where Colson Lovelin is. I love Colson Lovelin. He is not, we haven't seen him through two games, and he, this is supposed to be like his breakout year where, you know, he builds on what he was the best position player for the bears. Slow start last year though. Yeah. True. But you think like you'd hope you hit the ground running. I don't know. This game, I don't know how much you can take away from like, offense, like the offense just wasn't ever going to get started for either team this game. But it's still, it's, it's less about like the weather. It's more the penalties, the, the four stairs, the bad blocking, like it's just, it was ugly. Look like a team that, that maybe was feeling themselves a little bit off of one week. That's what I'm saying. This might be a good thing. Like Ben Johnson. Oh, he's going to fucking kill him. Coaches, coaches kind of love this shit. Yeah. Like, look, like going out there laying an absolute egg after you look like world beaters in, in week one, they, they secretly get off to that type of stuff. And like it was, it was a double gut punch because it was the kale battery, but then it's like the bears had a chance to win this game with Tyson Beijing at the end, like in, and that was such a winnable game and the Andre Swift Fumble, you keep going back to that in my head. And like I said, Caleb getting hurt on that play. I think he scores a touchdown there if he doesn't get hurt because that's usually right where he would score a touchdown and be faster than everyone. But I tip my cat to Brian Flores. He's a fucking maniac. I do have one weird, like, are these guys just secretly linked forever situation with Alex Breggman, which I could have used for my who's back because so Breggman, wow, so if you remember when Breggman signed with the Cubs, it was in the middle of the Packers Bears playoff game. So it like happened. I was in the stands and it's like Caleb made that fourth and eighth throw and it's like, Oh, shit. Like get the alert from Jeff pass and Breggman signs with the Cubs. So it's like the vibes couldn't be higher. Today Caleb gets hurt and Breggman gets hit with a ball while in the on deck circle. Looks like he broke. I mean, he's got a shoe. He can't see out of his eye. Couldn't be worse. The fact that both those guys get hurt at the exact same time and Breggman gets hurt seven days before the playoff start. It was a bad day. It was a bad day. It was a bad day overall. Yeah. That's a hell of an injury. You're, yeah. It's disgusting. Really bad. Can you see, like, the stitch on the baseball on the, I don't know, but it's just like Breggman's the man and he's been the, he has been the second best player for the Cubs since the all star break. He's been absolutely incredible. Also the clips of him and the boys when they won the horse race like all, all the time, all the time. Right. So yeah, what are you going to say, Hank? The way Caleb Williams came off the field, it looked like he might have been like crying when he was on the cart. Yeah. No contact, like your mood has changed considerably since that happened because it seems like the, the way he's walking in the locker room, it's like he's going to be fine, which is crazy because just the way he was, you know, he was like blocking the tears from coming down his eyes. He couldn't walk. I thought he was, I thought he tore his Achilles. Yeah. I thought he tore his Achilles. So yes, it has changed. I was, I didn't talk in the cave for about an hour there. And then as slowly, the things started trickling in where it was like, hey, he's walking. He's got a limp. I, you know, also Hank was rooting for the Vikings. Yeah, he was. That's fine. Yeah. He was. He had the hunger dog. Yeah. Hunger dog came close. What? Max. I didn't say anything. Oh, you leaned in like you were going to talk. Yeah, it's just deja vu. It's all over again. Listen, what happens in the cave? Happens in the cave. Yeah. It's happened. It's a temporary flare in the cave. And then you walk. And then he step out. And then I've talked, we just, we just want to bet together 30 minutes ago. It's not personal. Yeah. We're back. We're back. I know. Yeah. I know. I never said we weren't. Yeah. I, I, I removed it for my memory as soon as I walked out of it. It is very funny how like a hamster is not a good injury. Like we said, he might be out a month, maybe two months. Maybe it's only just a couple of weeks. Maybe it's a very mild one. And he just was like caught off guard by it and it caught. I was afraid that it was something more serious. But it's very weird how like an injury that ultimately could cost him, you know, five games this season. Yeah. But you're, you're so relieved. You're like, correct. This could, that's actually the best thing that he could have done is like, you know, under promise over deliver when it comes to soft tissues. Yeah. And, and they are in like an Achilles injury. It does. I know that it, every injuries are different than they used to be in the fact that guys can come back from pretty much every injury. But an Achilles injury for a guy with the athleticism of Caleb would have probably zapped something from him going forward that he would never be exactly the same guy. So that was the fear where it wasn't, the fear wasn't this season. It was next season in the future and all that shit. So that is part of why I got relieved. I was relieved there. But yeah, anything, I mean, the Vikings are a problem. Two and no, they're two and everyone else in the NFC North is one in one. Their defense looks awesome. I don't know what their quarterback situation is because I know Kyler's maybe going to come back in a couple of weeks from the limited time we saw Kyler. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing. Yeah. But their defense can keep them in every single game. They were, I mean, the last and the running game too. Yeah. I think they last pretty good. Hard of Jones is three points. Yeah. The defense is looking good and then the running game does look efficient. Yeah. It looks like it can win you. That's actually what they like to do on offense is if you had to draw it up, have a very efficient ground game, don't ask your quarterback to be awesome. That's kind of like his secret sauce is like he doesn't, he didn't ask Sam Donald to be like the best quarterback in the entire NFC when he was winning games for the Vikings. So don't ask him to do too much. And I think that Kyler, I don't know, I'm optimistic at what Kyler can do in that system. Yeah. Okay. Anything else? I mean, oh, they're showing the AI means on the AI Kyler now I was just looking at, I was just looking for a Kyler update and then that showed up. So there's fun. Yeah. Then you got the Eagles. You got the birds next. Yeah. I kind of took a little bit of the buzz out of the money. And I've big money. Football matchup. Still buzz. Yeah. Still buzz. Listen. I didn't imagine a good quarterback. Secret agent man. He's good. Tyson agent will be able to run the offense. Tyson agent does not have the arm strength that Kyler has. That's obviously a no duh, but he's he's limited in that respect. But yeah, I expect him it. The thing that sucks is like Tyson agent in I think is going to work fine in Ben John's offense. We still have a bad defense. So like the in terms of the ceiling of what you need to do with a bad defense. You need to have explosive plays and big plays and all this stuff. It might be a little bit harder to do with Tyson agent. The thing about the Eagles offensive line right now is that it does not matter if you have a good defense or not, you will get pressure on that. I know. Yeah. I just think that Tyson agent would pair perfectly with a really good defensive team. If that makes sense. Yeah. I don't know if he's going to be paired perfectly in a shootout, but we will see. I think if you can if you can go 500 and however long the Caleb is out, that would be awesome. And just have a chance, you know, down the stretch to play some some good football. It's not. I think the optimistic route here tomorrow could be different. If we get different news and it's like people are talking about Dak Prescott and how he's, you know, the tendon tore off and he had to get surgery and was out for the season and all that shit. So I don't think I don't think it's going to be that bad. Yeah. it would probably be better than even we think, like he was walking. Walking on it. Yeah, after the game. Yeah, and you you wouldn't be able to walk kind of like that if it was completely torn. Great three. I hope so. I'm also not a doctor. I just hope that all the doctors just just give us good news. That's all. Yeah, walking with in good spirits, very light limp. Nothing around the leg in question. Okay, so you might be okay. Yeah, I hope you're right. Okay. Um, next game. Saints 24 Raven 17. Chuck. They got Chuck. They got Chuck. They got Chuck. Big time. There's something about Chuck is a, uh, he's the new Mr. Fourth quarter. He's so good. They're never out of it. Either never out of it. It looked like the Ravens were going to walk here. Here. So we'll talk about Tyler. Chuck in the Saints because I am like excited about watching Tyler. Chuck in the Saints playing football. They're, they're very fun. Crystal lobby has been incredible. If you're a Ravens fan, this looked all too familiar, which has to really suck because you have Jesse Mentor, you have a new system, John Harbaugh has gone, everything's going to change. That was a John Harbaugh loss. Mm hmm. So it was exactly like what they've been through. It was, so the Ravens from 2020 to 2025, led the NFL with 14 losses when leading by 10 plus points. John Harbaugh. That was like the end of John Harbaugh was like, we just blow these leads. Jesse Mentor has coached two games. The NFL, he's already got one. He's already got one where he's been up by, uh, 10 plus points and lost the game. And on top of that, we had a Harbaugh special of Derek Henry having 11 rushes for 51 yards in a touchdown on the first half and then getting five more carries in the second half for 17 total yards. When the Ravens had a lead, so I don't really understand that except for they got shocked. They got shocked big time big time. And credit to, uh, to the Saints for doing the right thing. And in the fourth quarter going for it on fourth down on the goal line. Yes, because they a lot of other teams would put that like, especially if you have a young Gish quarterback, you're like, let's just take the lead on the road. Yeah, and see if our defense can do something. They they got like like fucked up. He got he got like absolutely hammered on those maybe a gain of two inches. Yeah, the second one. And maybe a gain of two inches on the first one. We can never know because there's too many bodies around there. So you there was no clear and obvious reason to overturn it. Butterworth weighed in on that one. We had Mark Butterworth. Pocus head out of the Sure. Butter whatever. It was like we exhausted all the angles could not prove clear and obvious that he did not break the plane of the goal line. So it was one of those things where there's too many bodies. It looked like he got in. But it was the right call by by Kellan Moore to do that. I like the guts that he showed. I like to faith that he's got in shock to only 252 yards. But heavy in the fourth quarter heavy in the fourth quarter. Yeah. Crystal lobby is a stud. He has 18 catches for 266 yards through the first two games. It's clear that they're like, you know, as a tandem work so well together. Also, we had Kellan Moore. He gave out six game balls. Yep. So Tyler shock chase young Julian Blackman, Pete Werner, Chris Lave and Carl Granderson. All got game balls. It's nice nice six game balls. I think he could have given out more. I do too. I really do. I think Butterworth. I think Butterworth gets a game. Butterworth could have definitely gotten a game. Hand him one six is actually kind of like that's too normal for me. Yeah. I think you can step it up next time, Kellan. This also it felt like in Crystal lobby said this after the game. The Saints. He said, I feel like since I've been here, we haven't beaten a good team. This is huge for us. Because remember last year, they got some momentum at the end of the year. But they also were playing a lot of the NFC South. And it wasn't like this is a super bowl like, you know, the Super Bowl, hopeful team in the Baltimore Ravens. They went into their house. They got punched in the mouth. And they were responded and won this game. And Chuck beat a little Raven's fan cry. Like that's that made a little kid cry on TV. That's when you know you got it. This poor kid. He was probably like nine years old and man, he is he is crying. He's crying. He's crying. But he got shit. Listen, but that's everyone gets shocked up eventually. It's better. You find out right now. Yeah. Like if you got kids in the car, maybe cover. Their ears are maybe it's time for them to know. Like they're going to get shocked one day. And that's okay. Chuck MVP odds. Oh, man. You're right. Crazy. But I like it. Juicy. It's all I just I just did a little sprinkle. You know what? This is leading to Max. It's leading to shut. If Chuck won the MVP, this is everyone who listen to this podcast will hate us forever. Because always like he gets into a place where he could even be in the conversation. We will be he's in the conversation. You know, well, it's true. We're having a conversation out there. I can I can smell the world where it's the saints against the Eagles. First round playoffs. Okay. I can't have that. And you might get shocked. He has the most passing yards to start a Saint season through two games since 2009, Drew Brees, 669 with Drew Brees 2009 Tyler Schuck has 662 passing yards through two games. He's the best. He's fucking. He just throws a catchable ball. He throws a catchable ball. And I I I saw that he said that Anthony Weaver, the defensive coordinator for the Ravens called him poor man's Josh Allen. Yeah. Apparently everyone in the Saints facility was just calling him poor man the whole week. So they heard that and he delivered. Like Josh Allen is rich is shit. It's a four man's Josh Allen is still like pretty wealthy. I guess like rookie season second year Josh Allen before we got paid. That's a pretty good quarterback. I mean, I'm looking up how much Tyler Schuck has gotten paid. I mean, he's the greatest deal in in NFL history. He's a bargain right now. Yeah. He's he right now is getting paid $1.3 million a year. Yeah, pretty good. That's pretty damn good. I mean, they they they very easily could have beaten the Lions week one. Yes. We could be staring a two and a half Saints team in the face. Saints fans should be pumped because it's also like the NFC South. We know it's it's not the hardest division. So there is no team that you're looking at. Like that team is the best in the division easily. So Saints can why not dream big. So big game. Oh, and they have the well, I guess they have the two and O Raiders coming up. And then the Falcons. Yeah. They can win both those games. You know, I'm just leading the league in passing right now. I know. Yeah. Yeah. He's good. He's really good. That's why he's probably going to play against the birds in the playoffs. That's we don't know that but MVP. We don't know that. We don't know that. There's a lot of things that we don't know. We're just having a conversation. We're just speculating. We're using our imagination. This is a national sports podcast. You got to talk about all the teams. Yeah. Because you know that in the teams that I root for, I'm a bit of a loser. Maybe one of the biggest Hank. You don't have to nod that hard. I mean, I'm the one that's saying or I'm not in agreement. All right. That's fine. Are you slaughtered. Slotted dialed. Nice. Stay dialed. What's the difference between dialed and slotted. Slotted is when you put your arms closer to your position dials a state of mind. Got it. Actually, they're both states of mind. What about Max? He locked in. Never. Okay. I'm pretty locked. He's been been more locked in today though. He's not having a bad. He's a little locked. Yeah. He was like watching the AI column room videos for like an hour. But that wasn't an hour. I watched the video one time. It was funny. Very cute. Yeah. I also made him fat, which I don't know why they made him fat. He's not fat. He's just, but he did look funny or he looked like he looked like a fat like a fat baby. He looks like a little purple nerple. Yeah, it was funny. I was, I was, I was, I was actually locked in because you were talking about Kyler. I was like, oh yeah. Let me look for Kyler update. Then I got a little distracted by the AI video. Also, I got to unlock real quick, because I just forgot to mention something because I mentioned Hank's hat PFT. I did wear the shirt today that you got me. Yeah, because I was like, what if it's just a lucky shirt? What and what? So I probably never. Yeah. Burn it. Burn it. Yeah. He gave me the the Ben Johnson giving me the middle finger kill Williams smoke a cigarette. And I was like, I got to, I got to run it back. Yeah, gone. Hank still has yet to wear the stone cold Steve Austin Patriots jersey. I got him. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. He took a pack. He's crazy. He's crazy. He's like, yeah, you're like, what? You don't give a present and like demand that they wear it. You're right. That's a nice thing to do. I will wear it eventually. I don't know if you will. I will. Okay. I will. You're going to say, yeah, what are the biggest loser things that I do is I, I get very, very into rooting for guys that were on my team that then left. And I'm like happy to see them succeed. Other places. Almost as happy as I get when anything good happens to my, this is saying loser stuff. What? That's insane. I know. I know. I know. I know. Max listen, I'm admitting it. We're, it's an open space for us to share a thought. You're just describing like the last seven years of Kyle Schwarber for me. Right. Exactly. Yeah. It's, it's like ultimate cut behavior when it comes to sports cucking. I kind of like sitting in the chair and being like, it's good to see chase young happy. Mm-hmm. And it's good to see him. He was great. Chase Young has been legitimately awesome for like the last, I'd say, year, starting like halfway through last season. He's a really fucking good defensive player right now in the league. And it's a really good job. Like of, of kind of, especially in the second half, like, I mean, it goes back to them. Not the Ravens. Not running the ball. Like Lamar didn't look like he was, you know, as comfortable. We're shot Bateman played very well. We should say that. We're shot Bateman was a, we've been asking who's going to be, who's safe hours, who's going to be the Ravens receiver. Shot Bateman was very good. But yeah, that was. was that was just the Saints, man, they're good. They're good. Wait, wait, they're good. But are the Saints for real? I have there's a difference. Oh, yeah, I got to see, I got to see this next week is going to be big. I think the Saints might be for real. I think they're, I think they're very well coached team. They got to beat the Raiders at home because the Raiders are two and all. That's what a real team does is they take care of business. Right. You got to take care of business. You got a big win. You're talking about the big win. Now take care of business after that. Yep. Then you then you get to the for real category. Okay. Next game, Bengals 20 Texans six, uh, the Bengals defense. That might be for real because this was a game. Remember week one, we talked about, Hey, if you're Texans fan, how are you going, how are you feeling about this loss to the bills and we came to the conclusion that as much as it sucks to lose, CJ Stroud in the offense looked a lot better this week back to what was happening at the end of last year because the Bengals defense was awesome today. They held the Texans to five for 21 on third and fourth down. Woody Marx and David Montgomery had 14 carries for 18 yards. They had a 43.5 pressure rate. That Bengals defense, they, they, there was the first time they didn't allow a touchdown in a game since week three of 2022. And you could hear it like in the post game, you know, talk, Jamar chase, and then we're talking about like we're feeding off this defense. It's, it's, it's got to be awesome to have a defense. Finally, for the first time in a long time, the Bengals have a defense that it feels like hey, we can win games even when we don't have our best nights, which Joe Burrow even said he said I was average today. He said incredibly, incredibly, incredibly average. And it must be nice to be incredibly average. And then if you're the, the Bengals be able to win by more than just like the skin of your teeth. Yeah. The Bengals only had 12 first downs this game. They had Jamar chase have an incredible, that catch and the body control he made. It was just, it's like insane to watch in real time in slow mo. He's just, he's so damn good. But that of a slump. Yeah. Is one week slump. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's your touchdown. He was incredible. I thought CJ Stradd looked pretty good today. Well, we should say no Niko Collins is a big deal. Right. That's a big, big deal for the Texans offense. Right. But I think CJ Stradd didn't look bad today. He was not the reason why they lost. No, they're just, they're offense didn't, they're offense couldn't score points. Like that was, I, it's not that he was so bad. He wasn't, you know, the, the playoff game against the Patriots bad, but they just couldn't, they couldn't manufacture points in a game when their defense played good, good enough that you should be able to win that. Yeah. This is the, I believe third time out of four years that the Texans start o and two under Domingo Rines made the playoffs every time they, they usually bounce back from that. And so some people are saying, Hey, the Texans, they're on to, I've heard that before somewhere. And I feel like that's usually a time when big cat would make them as pinky team. Yeah. Not my thing. Just a lot of people are saying that. Yeah. Not my pinky team. I have my pinky team. People are going to be so mad about my pinky team, but I don't care because the goal is to not lose my pinky. I think I think people should read that when I say my pinky team, people are like, Hey, you coward. We want to see you cut off. No, I don't, I'm picking a team. I don't think can win the Super Bowl. I think the Texans can still win the Super Bowl. They have to play a lot better. Yeah. In a world where, uh, tank del comes back, Nico Collins stays healthy. CJ Straub plays like he played his working year. They could win the Super Bowl. Yeah. I'm just trying to think who it's going to be. I mean, listen, they lost their own two and I get it own two sucks. They lost the two teams that I think are very good in the Bengals in the pills. And I think this was more about the Bengals being like, we, that wasn't a fluke week one. We have a good defense now. We've finally done the things that we need for, uh, you know, Dexter Lawrence and Jonathan Allen, like, they have a good defense. So Al Golden is a good defense coordinator. They, it feels like they've got to figure it out. And I know it's a long season, but when you have Joe burrow and you have a good defense, this is what got them to the, to the Super Bowl last time where it's like, they can make enough plays on defense and Joe burrow and Jamar Chase can make enough plays on offense that you can win a game. I'd like them to, uh, to run the ball to like show that they can just get like super, super physical with the running game. I changed from a nice nice nice day. But I think that's the next step for him is like if, if Joe burrow can be incredibly average and the running game can like elevate the team to the next level. Yeah. Then I might I might believe in the Bengals to do some serious damage. Either I'm, I'm buying the Bengals stock. Thank you, word about the Bengals. Yeah. Good team. Yeah. Is the team is the chargers? I'll tell you when we get there. Okay. When we get to the team, when we get to the team, I'll tell you, um, they're not winning the Super Bowl though. I'm key. I've never been more confident in my pinky staying on my finger on my hand than this year. I didn't want it. The Texans also date. I did make the playoffs every time I do the pinky back. Yeah. Like, they're just, they're going to make the playoffs. They're going to find a way to make the playoffs. They'll figure it out. They always do. Who do they have coming up? So they're, uh, see, the schedule is the Colts at the Colts. All right. So they win that game. They're back. Then the Cowboys at the Titans, Jaguars, Giants, chargers, chargers, yeah. They'll be back. They got to win their, their, their division. Texans I think will be okay. I do too. Bengals good. Good team. Yep. That that is showing that they're different than the Bengals of last year and what we saw last year. And like, Joe, bro, you, I love, Joe, bro does do a good job of like whenever he, he just comes out and says it like I wasn't good. He, I feel like that happens a lot. Now, Joe, bro's got to say healthy. The fact that he was already questionable this week with a back. Yeah. What, so what was up with his back? Was it like spasming? Dr. Sydney's back. He ought to be back. He ought to me get a back replacement. Yeah. One of them maybe start wearing shirts that have the backs on him, Joe. That'd be nice. Maybe less chainmail. Yeah. Okay. Before we get to, we got three, actually four, four games coming up with everyone in this room. Their teams being spoken about draft Kings, draft Kings, who said you can't have things your way on draft Kings casino, spin your way with flex spins, exclusive casino spins that let you pick the slots. New casino players get 1,000 total flex spins, including 100 lightning link spins signed up with code take and play $5 to unlock 50 spins a day at varying values for your first 20 days. 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It didn't be disappointed. Then actually, no, that might be better because that means that you expected to win. Yeah, they should have won the game. I should be sitting here 2 and 0 on a high horse, but instead we're just one of one because we're still the Jets. I think, can I make a suggestion? Yes. I think you should be mad. I am mad. It's just the expression. It sounds better the other way. Yeah. But I think you should be very mad at your coach. Which one? Your head coach, Aaron Clan. Aaron Claney Balls. I think you know, the pussy. Yeah. I think this is one of those. It's across the board. It's also on Frank Reich. Yeah. So I was talking more about like the time management at the end of the game and also like giving up. It was a big time. Like, I don't know. You would never see a truly aggressive coach that likes to go for the throw, do what he did at the end of regulation, which is just be afraid of getting pinned deep by a punt. So not using the timeout. True. I think he was more concerned if they'd go for it on fourth and five. Yeah. And they get it. But if they don't get it, you win the game. Exactly. I don't think they were going to go for it. Either way, the OT thing is still baffling to me. I do not understand why a coach would win the coin toss and then elect to start with the ball in overtime. I don't think they knew the rules. Yeah. He said afterwards he wanted to control the control. clock. But again, with both teams getting a possession, you would much rather know what you have to get versus like the Packers who got the stop and then knew all they had to do is get a field goal is such an advantage versus the opposite where it's like you're you're playing like the Packers knew going into the when they get the ball. No, over time, it's like, all right, we just got to get a field goal here. We can be we don't have to be super aggressive. You want to know if like the other team scores a touchdown first, you got to know that every you now get every fourth down to go for it. I just don't understand any coach that wouldn't want to kick in the in the new overtime rules. It makes no sense to me. No, I'm with you, especially the way they call the game. Just extremely conservative. Right. You want to go second just goes you get every fourth down and your defensive guy. You want to get a stop then you get the ball back. Right. I just think Gino saw tails didn't know the rules. So and his coach is covering for him. And his coach is covering because the press conference sounded like a lie. Yeah, control the clock makes no sense, no sense, zero sense whatsoever. Like a best case scenario, you get the ball and you go down the field and it's a seven minute drive. And he scored the best case, right? Yeah, the big deal. Okay, the drive took seven minutes. That's still a lot of time for the Packers to respond. Yeah, I think he was giving bad information on that one. And he's covering, but still the fourth and one play shotgun was probably what lost in the game. Yeah. But it was just across the board just so disappointing. The Packers, I don't, I mean, they didn't look good. They have they're just the most penalized team. They just get penalties. Not they have 26 penalties in two games, 14 penalties in this game. The Packers are the first team on record since 1941 to win a game with less than 200 total yards, 100 plus penalty yards, negative turnover margin, uh, entering today teams in that spot were 0 and 44. And they found a way to win. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, no takeaways. The jets had more penalty or more penalty yards. Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying the the Packers drew games at 26 penalties. Yeah, the jets, the jets had a 156 penalty. This was as gross as the bear's Vikings gave us. Fumbles. I think that were there sick eight fumbles, only one loss, but eight fumbles. Yeah, just a million penalties just gross, gross football. And I think we were right about the jets, white uniforms in the rain. Yeah, two wet. Yeah, they're too wet. I think the jets were wetter than the Packers. You actually look, they looked, they looked, there was a clean look for them today. Yeah, what means you laughed at me. It's heavy. I nailed that. Two wet. I'll give that to you guys. You didn't think it nailed that. It was just simply too wet. Hangs, I don't think hangs admitting that they were too wet. No, no. Hank, they were far too. They're way too wet. Yeah. Because he wants them to look good. They didn't look like losers. No, they looked wet. Till the fourth quarter. Yeah. Which they were in the fourth quarter, they were too wet. They were too wet. Our best unit last year, which is special teams like they couldn't, they couldn't cover a punt. That's what lost them again. Are you taking any consolation whatsoever of the fact that you should have beaten the Packers, who in theory are a good football team, and you should have been, you had them, even though it was like colossal mental mistakes and some coaching stuff that led you to kind of collapse at the end. They won coaching stuff too. Like that. Yeah. Over times got like, when you're going into the offseason OTAs, the coaches probably meet together and it's like, you know, let's just start the year by going through like general overtime practice. Like that had to have happened. Yeah. I'd agree. So you win the coin flip, take the, don't take the ball. Are you at the place where you can look at this game, be like, okay, that's progress that we should have beaten the Packers today. We were, we were the better team and we had that game won and we choked it away. Are you at the point where it's like, just complete an utter, like get rid of this coaching staff? I'm like half and half. Erickland's defense is good. He, he, he, he, he called it shot in the office saying in the offseason saying, his, his power is calling defense because it's been, you can't put this game on his defense. Like the, the Skymore punt return was what kind of shifted the whole game. And also the Jets not being able to, because there was that moment when it was Jets. I think they're up 14 seven. The Packers fumbled on their own 14. The Jets only got three out of that. And they didn't, they, they kicked it on fourth and one. Like that's, if you, if the offense is able to get six there, which you would hope your offense is able to do when you get the ball at the 14, you win the game. So it's like Aaron Glitz defense wasn't the problem is the offense wasn't able to like hit the kill shot. Yeah, they were, they were just ultra conservative. They just need to install play where Kenyan Sadeek goes under center. And you, you do the push push and you get a first down. I don't know how every single team doesn't have a, a push push guy. Mm hmm. Just doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Did they run the, uh, O five personnel? They did, they, they, they threw a tight end screen to Jeremy Rocker. It didn't really do anything. It looks cool. It does look cool. I love it when they have five tight ends on the field. But you also aren't gonna get anything out of it. Most of the time. It just looks cool. Yeah. As a burden Davis say. Yeah. Uh, the packers also like the jets and packers like I was looking at it. They, so they played, uh, four times in the last 10 years, 12 years, the, the, the jets have blown a 21 3 lead, a 35 20 lead, a 17 7 lead. And then they won one of the games. So it's either they, they blow a lead to the packers or they win. I did not know that. Yeah. I did not know that sucks. When you think about this way, you guys, I wanted to beat the pack. You had a double digit lead. Yeah. We, we pissed down our leg to the guys who pissed down their leg and Matt LaFour. It's tough. They might have gotten their swagger back like, oh, we, maybe we are a mentally tough team, which I, if that's true, I may never forgive you. Yeah. We outpissed the packers and, and might have done that. Yeah. You went punt turn over on downs and punt after you went up 10, uh, 10 points. Just not good enough. Especially Frank Reich and Aaron Glenn, and like they, they've been coaching for a while at some point. You gotta just go win a game. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That was the fourth and one. Where it's like, go win a game. Go up 14 points. Then the other fourth and one. Yeah. The other fourth and one and two wet and two wet. It was so wet. It was so wet. You guys were just two wet. Did you expect to win that game? Like a pussy and national one. Glonibulls comes. When you, when you had a 10 point lead, did you expect to win that game? I expected. I did. I did expect to win that game. Yeah. That's good, though. That's, that's a little bit of progress. Max, you're laughing. We're right. No, this is a glonibulls. The glonibulls and natural is going to get me every time. That was so much. Man, sprained his neck. Yeah. He sprained his neck. He's brained his neck. He showed up looking like a Christopher to court date. Vincent man, when he was, when he went to court for the steroid trial game, Colton, will that clip in right now? Put it in. Some people understand. Yeah. All right. Any last thoughts memes about this game? Hank, this ruined your hungry dog, your mad at the chats. He said jet, jet's going to jet. Yeah, just going to jet. That was just a disgusting, disgusting loss. Any, any thought that they're going to be like a scrappy team this year went out the window after that performance. Oh, their head coach is a moron. I think they're, I think they're still very much in the scrappy category and maybe like trending towards decently good. What? What? Hank speaking like a jet fan right now because he did, Hank was texting me during the game, rooting for the jet. I literally texted memes. The meme memes could have been brothers like we would have been brothers for life if the jets won this game. I literally texted them, please. Just please. I want to believe it. And then, and then, and then the jets like elected to take the ball and memes goes, this game's over. That like that, that one is where you just, you, that cannot happen. It makes no sense. No head coach should ever do that in the NFL ever. And anytime the game goes to overtime, the team that wins the kickoff, I mean, it have, it's like the Super Bowl, but that was in ahead. That was the first time it happened. That was the, that was the very, that was what, four, five years ago. Yeah. Yeah. And everyone watching that, everyone's like, that can never happen. Right. The fact that it happened again, five years later, I think the jet just haven't been in an overtime game. That's, yeah, they, they did get blown out a lot last year. So they haven't been in that situation. Okay. But I should know the rules better than the guys coaching the game. Right. And also Aaron Glen was with Dan Campbell, like one of the most aggressive coaches out there, you would think that he would have picked up a little something from that too. Or like maybe they watched the Lions game from last week and we're like, all right, put the pressure on him. We'll score. And then you, you dictate how it goes. It's possible. There was one quote that he had post game concerns me a little bit. He said, this loss is not going to define who we are and what we're about. I feel like, if that were true, you don't even think about that. Yeah. You wouldn't even think about saying like, Hey, this loss isn't going to define me. Most people lose a game and, and they don't worry at all about their job being defined by that game. It's kind of trying to get in front of it. I know you guys are going to think this is going to define us, but I'm going to tell you right now it's not going to define us. Yeah. That's not us. We're, I promise you. That's it. When you think of us, you're not going to think of losing this game. Right. It's like, well, you're, you're thinking. Wait, hold on, dude. Why did you say that? - Yeah, you didn't say that, you didn't say that. A lot of you guys think it's going to find me well, if they would have won it would have been a defining win That's true. Absolutely. Yes. Has it been the first real team they beat? Would have been extremely defining yeah his resume right now is Titans Browns and Titans might be a good team Titans could be a good game the Eagles hell. They gave them They gave them hell like mincey and off health gave him hell Should go to that game Eagles 24 Titans 20 hmm Titans gave you hell big time The Eagles offensive line and I miss Jeff Stalin. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it's just some injuries I think it's a big big deal that you lost he was a he was the best offensive line coach in the entire league Mm-hmm. It was him and uh Starnakia or Skarnakia from a New England Those are two coaches like two o'line coaches that will win you football games or more than just offensive line coaches And so why did you why'd you let him walk? I think they just wanted to retire right? Oh no, it's because he had because we got with Patula with the offensive New offensive coordinator and Listen style. I think Manion has the offense has looked better It has looked less boring than the than the manion offense did We hurts has looked better in his first two games than he did for most of last year So I can't say I'm upset about bringing in manion But it does suck. I wish we could have brought in manion and kept stoutland because the offensive line It's really bad and it's really coming from the same position the first two weeks Landon Landon Dickerson was unplayable last week came out after the game said he was hurt went on The IR and now we moved or we moved camjergans to left guard who was our center and then put in the backup center at center And camjergans just couldn't play guard. He just couldn't play he just couldn't that was a weird to like change two positions Yeah, I wish they didn't do that. I'm curious to see if they could go back to it this week. Obviously Playing a new position and then going up against Jeffrey Simmons for an entire game is difficult Jeffrey Simmons dominated the game today. Mm-hmm. He camjergans couldn't block him. He just couldn't block him But he's not a guard like I I don't know they they felt more comfortable with Drew Kendall at center Then will he lamb can I think a guard because what will he lamb can a young guy doesn't have a lot of experience Kendall has played a lot in the NFL or has played some in the NFL But I don't know. It's just frustrating, but they won the game Yeah, and here I mean Jill and her it's had a couple bad picks, but he also had an incredible Final drive when you needed it the most he was awesome on that drive He played fantastic for 80% of this game and then through one horrendous pick in the in the first Quarter, I guess it set up it was actually like perfectly Right after we were talking we're like how are the Titans even going to move the ball? And then it was like two seconds later a pick to the 10 yard line. Yeah, and that well I guess I could do it that way and the Titans I mean hey It was good to see the Titans fought fight because they looked like the worst team in the NFL week one and They at least fought pretty hard in this game. Yeah, and gave the Eagles I mean you were sweating it a little. Yeah, yeah, it hurts had to go down the field with a minute 56 no time No time outs. They were very frisky. They were violent Simmons like kind of backed up some of the shit that he talked. Yeah, somehow both of them came away looking okay That's how I'm gonna say it's like he he kind of threw down the gauntlet being like we just got to make him play quarterback And then somehow he was kind of right and he played good enough where it wasn't like him running his mouth I cost them the game correct. Did you see the hot mic after the game? No, it's it who's hot mic hurts hurts was getting interviewed by Fox. I think the game was on Fox For like the post game interview Simmons came up to him during the interview. Yeah, it was like a game and then hurts goes you talk that shit I ended it oh But it was like it was like it was like very playful. That's fair. Okay. Maybe super bowl for your play these two great teams It was 150 degrees on the turf How crazy is it to yeah, maybe that for the big the big boys up front could be difficult and then I did notice at the end of the game And Max you were screaming at the TV that the Titans defensive players were holding down the Eagles Players who like the ball carrier so they got that and then in order to like slow them down a little bit hold them down If those pellets are 157 degrees, you're pretty much just cooking the guys. Mm-hmm You're like searing great point. I didn't think about it like that on top of the Korean barbecue. That's gonna cook your meat shit Yeah, well, they would there would be a tackle and then we had no chime outs and they would be tackled in the middle of the field And then the guy the Titans players would just lay on top of them for an extra fight well done. Yeah, that's bullshit That's that's that's that's that's defensive delay of the game. Yeah, no Devonte Smith was probably like seared like he would He was also fucking awesome in this game. So was Don Tavie and Wix don Tavie. Yeah, did you are you about to say that the stat was that I'm pretty sure Don Tavie and Wix had six catches today all for all for first down. Yeah, and I think four of them were on third down Yeah, I have five catches for first downs four of a month a third down. Okay. Yeah, yeah 74 yards five conversions In jail massive 145.8 passive rating when targeting Don Tavie and Wix this season. He's been awesome. He's been really good Another one of trash another man's shredder. Devonte Smith. Yeah is so sick He had a he had one of those catches today that didn't count, but like they still they still showed three replays of it because it was so sick But it was but his feet were out of bounds. Would you say I'm being a hater if I said that you got outplayed by the Titans, but they eagles out executed the Titans I think yes, I think they okay. Well, you're actually not calling me a hater. You're calling Robert Salah a hater because that's what he said Overall, I thought we outplayed them, but they out executed us That yeah, I think I mean they had some turnover they had some turnover look in that game for sure Yeah, I think if you're a Titans fan, you're still kind of optimistic. You don't know what's going to happen with this The new regime that's there, but if you're a Jets fan and you've seen like watching this from afar You have to have PTSD And how Salah is talking to the media because that guy must have like a motivational quote of the day saying Calendar that he just like rips off in case you lose. Okay. I've got I got what I'm going to say here like he does seem like the guy that's The ultimate moral victories guy right and like you know this today was actually bigger than just this loss because Tough times don't last tough people do it means do you like just flashback to some of the because nobody wins a postgame lost press conference Like Robert Salah. Oh, yeah, I just said to Max was like Robert Salah is a big moral victory guy Oh, but he's actually said no, he said no there are no more. There's no more victories. He's doing the same. He got out ahead of it He had one last week. He said when you're a loser, he lose that that was his that's a good point I was good. That was a great one. He's doing the 60% shirts. Oh, yeah Because like you you get 60% there's still 60% Left in you when you think that you're finished right you think that you're you've spent it all you got no more energy But data actually shows that the average human has 60% left Nope, which I'd be like another like 90 seconds. What kind of data is I do not have that when I'm finished Yeah, I have another 90 seconds turns out you can keep going. Nope. It's already soft Bob Yeah, he does I feel like Jets fans watch what he's saying to like in the postgame press conferences They're like this fucking guy. Yeah, because he does he does kind of fire you up a little bit in a post game like press conference after a loss His head's really shiny - very shiny. Yeah, he should probably get a little like D shine Maybe get what if Robert Salah Like got the Matt helmet on his head instead Matt bald instead of shiny bald Yeah, that could be a little bit better just like spray-painted with the Yeah, same colors are used. Yeah, not a no no not even difficult, but just you know the matte finish instead of the shiny finish Oh powdery. Yeah, yeah, like doing it whenever a team wears Matt helmets. I'm like that's pretty badass Mm-hmm versus the shiny helmets. Just a thought. Can you go matte bald? I? Think you probably can you just have to powder it up. I think you just get a powder up. Did you guys see the Did you guys see the the Kent State coach? The so there was a tweet that's just living rent-free in my head So one said the Kent State coach looks like Matt Damon is About Brian Dable and I just can't that's a Kent State coach. Look at you have to have you seen him? Yeah, he looks exactly like Matt Damon. He looks like Matt Damon and singing Scotty doesn't know. Yeah, yep But it's fucked me up. I don't know why I thought it. Well, I thought of it because of bald end also Brian Dable's the offensive coordinator for the Titans That's why I thought of it max is coach Seriani, okay? Yes, you had to get a post game IV. Oh, oh 150 degrees hot. Yeah, yeah, I think you gave 100% sounds like Robert Salah is wrong. I think Seriani might have had 61% left. I thought you were I don't know if I'm sick or if you're sick I thought you were asking if he was on the hot seat after winning the first two games. Well, it's literally quite literally a very hot feel but not It's good not covering either of them Correct not even really close to covering it. Oh, no bad team against the spread right now whose lines is anyway from Monday. Oh, that's tough I don't think they're gonna you got it. It's okay. Then it's probably eagle. No, no, no, no, you're home kill wounds and playing I'm gonna say bear about that part my is one and a half. You're insane. I'm going to say Eagles minus three. I think it's Eagles three and a half. It's Eagles four and a half. Yeah. What do you ask? Yeah, I take it back. Max not locked it. No, not locked it at all. What are you doing, Max? They value four teams in the NFL. He are starting quarterback his hurt. But Tyson Beige is pretty good. He Caleb will be the third. And we've looked like shit. How much of Tyson Beige have you watched? The two teams that the Eagles have beat by two points have gotten their shit kicked in the other two games. We played a good Titans team. Very good. Really good Titans team. Like this is a team that they're going to be hanging around come January. I'm going to bet the Bears. I'm going to believe in Tyson Beige. But like, that does matter when you factor in the line, Max. I guess I'm not that much favorite. Yes. I think it's a seven point swing. I think you guys would have been three point favorites. I don't think we would have been three point favorites. I think it would have been like you don't think the Bears would have been three point favorites at home on that game. No. No. I think maybe one and a half. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe people would have gobbled up. I mean, you have the better defense by far. But you. But is Barclay, okay? I think I think he's going to be. They said they're not too worried. Max. Yeah. Sneaky thing. He's all around around. Max thinks the Eagles stink. I do kind of think that they think he's not getting to it. But he does. He thinks they stink. I think the offensive line stinks. And like, I'm, I'm not used to, used to having a sting. We can't run the football. We couldn't run the football against a fucking tight. Yeah. Today, what jumped out to me was that they say what you weren't about the Eagles. They have some dumb, dumb play calls sometimes. But usually when they're executing those dumb ass play calls, your offensive line is still manhandling the defense. Yeah. And just punching them in the face. And I have not seen that too much from the Eagles. No. No. Not at all. Yeah, we've played two bad defenses. How is Dallas got her out for a while? He got hurt, right? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's hard. It's hard when you're, when you're watching these games on the second and third TVs because you don't get audio. I know. I know. I know. So it takes a while to even like get that information. I was thinking about it. Wouldn't be conducive to the stream and the watchability. But if we were just like the UN and we all had our own headphones. I thought about that too. I was thinking about that while I was watching that game too. Today I was like, I kind of want to just get an air pod and just have one in. Just one air pod in that like you can put in. There's no way you can have a conversation. But like, but there's times where you need it. I know. I agree. But like most of the time you keep it out. But it's like, okay, I need to lock in here. Let me, let me get these air pods. But I think if you just had one in. Yeah. And it's like, that happens at sports bars all the time. Each table can turn the audio to whatever they want. All right, maybe we gotta try it. Yeah, because today we had sound on one of the worst games to watch. That's a Patriots 20 Steelers 3. Track. Hank. Good win. Good win. What do you mean good? Any win is a good win. And this was one of those wins. One of those one of them wins. The Steelers are the exact same team. Maybe actually not. Maybe worse. That offense is so so bad. And it's not take anything away from the Patriots defense, which is good. Christian Gonzalez is a beast. The Steelers offense is pathetic. TKMEC app front of the program. Bad. And a lot of like, oh, DKMEC app hand Rogers are like best friends. This is going to go so well. OTA is horrible. Nine, nine targets. Four catches 27 yards. A wide receiver one. And that's wide receiver three shit. It was ugly. They, they were drops. Plenty. Looking back on it. Well, like DK probably doesn't believe in any of the Antarctica shit. No. He's probably just like, you know, trying to find something in common. Correct. With Aaron. Be like, hey, maybe we can bond over aliens. He's not, DK looks like a complete shell of himself right now. I don't know if it's just the uniform that he's got on. If it's the offense that he's in. But like, you didn't see DK making egregious drops like this multiple times a game. The Pittsburgh Steelers have now gone 69 straight regular season games where they have not scored more than seven points in an opening quarter. Yeah. 69 straight regular season games without scoring more than seven points in opening quarter. We're through two weeks in the NFL season. Obviously it's a long season. But as of right now. That's got it. Is that Rafflesberger? Still? No, I know 69 is what. So there's 17 games season. Quick math. Come on. Zach, Zach, give us a math. If we're doing 69 divided by 17, that's going to be round up to 20 69. That's 70. 20 goes into 70 three times 3.5. Four and a half seasons. Okay. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. They are through two weeks this season. The Pittsburgh Steelers offense has one touchdown. It's over. I mean, that, that, that's Zach should, he should have just questioned everything. That was not only one of the hardest hits, but then the fumble was one of the funniest fumbles we've seen a long time. Yeah. It just kept on bouncing. Yeah. And both teams had their chance to pick it up. I was hoping it would keep going. I wanted to go, go out the back of the in zone. Have everybody get a touch on it. There was also a second. Five players got injured on that too. Yeah. Just bodies everywhere. There was one other sec that he had at the end of the game that I watched and I just, I felt kind of uncomfortable watching it because he does look old. That was the fumble six. And he's like, he's running away and he like kind of tosses the ball out. Yeah. Like, it's like, here you take it. Like he's an old person getting robbed. It's like, take my wall, you know, like just throws the ball away. Maybe they'll stop chasing me if I don't have this anymore. It's kind of sad to watch. It was sad to watch. Let's do a name that name who said that quote. It's a game we play. Who said that? Who said that? You ready for this quote? Offense needs to be better. Mike McCarty needs to be better. Mike McCarthy. Yes. Yeah. I liked it. He's already doing the third person. That's tough. Said Mike McCarty. Big Mike. How are you feeling overall Hank? Because that wasn't the best. Drake May did have if you're going off of week one when he had a bunch of guys still running. And he didn't push the ball down field. They did take shots today. And it was basically that was the offense. It was like no down to down continuity. But there were the big shot plays that got them down the field. Yeah. That was one bad interception where he hit like he had like check downs and guys open. People still running that he probably could have hit and just under threw that interception. But the knock the knock on Drake May last year was he didn't beat playoff teams. They beat a playoff team today. Didn't convert on third and six. Oh, that's true. Had a huge had a huge third and six conversion today. So that's like how I'm taking away. It's like the two main things that we focused on on this show last year was like the schedule didn't play any playoff teams. And third and six. And he showed today that he can do both those things without AJ Brown. Obviously the offensive line injury is bad. He's going to be up for the year. But yeah, the I'm in the way you side ways. Yeah. These broke his ankle. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Yeah, no, you're right. I like that you had to remind us that the Steelers were technically a playoff team. Yeah, I did a double check. Yeah, but you're right. I was like, oh, yeah, they are. You're right. It's a correct stat. And the third the third and six is great. That's awesome. Great completion across the middle. Tough throw. Driving the ball down field. Remondre had a great run. Remondre. Doghouse. Doghouse. It was that was like a deja vu moment where it was playing the Steelers fumble early in the game. Doghouse. Doghouse. Doghouse. Yeah, you guys basically just have to kind of hope the defense can step up a little bit. Because the offense is going to look a lot different when AJ gets back. Yeah, Romeo Dobbs had some had some good plays. Had some flashes that that was kind of what I was looking for going in this game. And then now we got the jacks. Jacks. It's going to be a battle. It's going to be a war. Yeah. Jacks are for loss. Motivated. Yeah. A lot of people were upset that Max ruined the he's still running in the moment. Yeah, I don't why are you giving just saying that that that was me? You you you you kept. Big cat is the one who brought who said it. Well, I figured out right away that it was someone's voice. I did not know. Correct. But you kept saying to turn the voice off. So I texted you and said this is PFT's voice. Right. But he texted me at the middle of the show. Correct. And I would have said it out loud. I texted you for not to be said. And PFT keeps saying it. Max ruined it. Max ruined it. I'm willing to take. I also think that you keep saying it's both of us. It is big. Big cat and Max ruined it. Why do you keep saying Max? If you would just lay. If Max said nothing about it. No, but he kept saying. Hank would still be going right now. He kept saying. Turn the audio off. But I said him. I would still be running. Wait. I do think it was better that we found Hank found out on the show. I also agree with that. There's like a million people would have texted tweeted Hank being like that's clearly. There's 10 guys on the field and it's. There were a lot of people that didn't understand the bit that did say. There's 10 players on the field. Yeah, like people would have been tagging Hank nonstop. I just said. And then we wouldn't have. He would have found out by himself. Yeah. And then he would have come back being like those stupid. It would. It just would have been so good to move on right when Hank said. Yeah, it's 11 guys on the field. Yeah. I don't know what to look at. That would be perfect. Yeah. It was awesome. But yeah. Actually, it's Roman or the bus. Yeah. Yeah. It deservedly so. I knew that you still have not admitted that you can. Well, you texted me on the air. You did say it. You texted me and I read it out loud. If it wasn't for Max, I would not have. I would not have figured it out. Yes. Yeah, actually, I wouldn't have either. I would have said that voice is really annoying. Yep. That's true. I would have just said the voice was annoying. I know you're on your you're on your honeymoon We would I would have just been like that voice really annoying and then P.F.D. would have told me after the show Hey, that was me and I'd be like oh Lighting's formation also is watching watching it back was was That was funny. Yeah, but I easter egg there love the lighthouse for me. We love to figure out something new new wrinkle to it That's what makes football season fun. Yeah, I still run what? What? No, you keep what we're good. We're gonna get to it. I was ready to like, you know, do something do some But now it's not you kind of ruined it. I yeah. I Jane Daniels ruined it What I was gonna like try and do my own film breakdown this week, but now I can't But you have one that will get you. I still want to do film break. I said I was doing film breakdowns before that came out last week Yeah, so you also said you're gonna play the harmonica. I'm that's so no, I'm not doing film that I bought the picture. I was talking about the command. Yeah, yeah, you can do film break do a do a Jaden film breakdown But it's gonna be like elbow breakdown. Oh, it's broken now Section that's it. It's not broken. It's dislocated. Yeah. No fracture. It turns out the all 22 doesn't come out right away I went I sat down ready to get in the lab. Yeah Well could get in the lab if you're if you're Glenn if you're Glenn tape watch You got people at the league that send you still run you got it you got early you got early film They sent Glenn some individual plays almost right pretty much before they even happened. I would I would buy a shirt that just said he's still running I don't hate it. There were so many times that I was still running this weekend. I was just like he's still running Yeah, same would you make through the interception? Yeah, you were out of the room But I was like if he gives a little air on that he's still running. Mm-hmm. It's great catchphrase. Yeah force gum Oh, I'm done. I'm done with the Steelers by the way. I just I can't watch this team. Miss team It's just brutal. I feel bad. They're in like Steelers fans are in football purgatory right now They're not in hell Hell would be just losing all their games and then like getting on the other side and getting a draft They're just in purgatory where they're they have good players But they're either a combination of old or they're all in the defense And it's just brutal to watch and like what would inspire you to want to watch the Steelers play football I don't know there's they're in such purgatory that they have they do have like brief glimpses of what it would be like if they weren't in purgatory Where they'll go to like a backup quarterback like you'll have your Mason Rudolph game and people get excited about it And you know, oh no, this is hell. Yeah, like they they step out of purgatory every now and again And they get to experience hell So they're almost more than happy to go back to purgatory right and if you're going like data points The Falcons could be one of the worst teams the league Yep, and that was their win in week one, and it's not like they blew them out. Yeah so My only other note on this game was JJ Watt did a really good job in the booth hot seat Tony Ramon borderline Well, I don't think it's borderline. I think it's I think it's seed is scalding hot. I would have been not getting a shot so mad if the sealers like if the game was closer and the sealers were winning like it was bothering me Like it that should be illegal what for him to cause problems. Yeah Like it didn't matter because the Patriots won that game handly and it would have been completely like It would have just been like fan anger, but it would I would have been mad if like the game was close and TJ Watt did something and then it was like JJ Watt like gassing up his brother that would have bothered me Big cat. What about if Tom Brady calls a Patriots game Tom Brady's not family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he doesn't have a dog in the fight and I and and I would I would love that He'd say shit. He all said piss missile. I don't want to talk about this awesome. I got shit and pissed on by Tom But I would love it if he called the Patriots game But yeah, it's not the same because he like kind of doesn't like Drake man now Raiders on the other hand not to talk about it Yeah, Raiders fuck that You wouldn't you would not I like that. Thank you. You're all about fair and balanced. What did he say? Yeah, it's not even it's not fair and it's not fair and balanced. No, it's just like no he did a good job Not talking about him like he was his brother Hanks just saying if they lost he would have then got retroactively mad at JJ Watt If nothing that he did yes If that game is there it happened early on when like he did get better But that the game was close early and I was like it should be illegal. Yes If the game had gotten closer and like JJ Watt probably would have had a huge impact at the end like I would have been upset And I would have probably taken last out on to JJ. Yes. Yeah, but not for any reason He JJ did a good job. He didn't correct make it feel like this is my brother. I'm talking about correct You just would have been irrationally angry and been like JJ. Yes And so for the sake of other NFL fans. You're trying to just save JJ from JJ. Yes Okay, you want him to have this job And also at this point like I don't think the sealer should be getting anymore more marquee A team games. I agree with that. Yeah, I think there should be some teams that we should come together about and say no No A team no standalone. Oh Speaking of yeah, we have a real problem America. We have a real problem The panther's 34 Falcons three the Atlanta Falcons I'm not gonna say the worst team in the NFL because the Miami dolphins are But they're the second worst and they're gonna be on the next three weeks in prime time Thursday night football coming up Who's who do they have after that they have Monday night for Sunday football I believe I believe it's I think it's Monday and then Sunday Yes, yeah Thursday's Monday Sunday Is it a double Monday maybe? Oh, no, I don't think we I think they got really double Monday. What? I know Yeah, double Monday's gone double Monday's Shucks playing in that game we should we should bring back double mud and ass of shock ladder game If the Falcons are playing bring back double Monday night games, please We're gonna try to steal the moon Like the like the the minions we're gonna take the moon because the shock ladders, but yes panther's 34 Falcons three The Falcons are I don't know what Uh Kevin Stefansky did in his past life to deserve this I think he might like it. It's I There's no way he likes what's going on now. So last year he got to his fourth quarterback in 11 weeks bad Still bad because you don't want to be on your fourth quarterback This year he got to his fourth quarterback in the second week. We saw Jack strand because Hank's favorite quarterback Cooper rush um Was basically like the worst quarterback ever he got in the game he Two of his first five snaps were turnovers 10 for 17 86 yards two interceptions I've the Falcons are so bad. They're so so bad. They're just a brutal watch. I don't know what else to say. Yeah, very very much a bummer The only good thing I'll say is if you are a What would we call the strand boys? Uh, I think we've been working on like we're we're gonna get stranded. We're getting stranded. Yeah. Yeah. I saw a strand wagons also The Strandard is the stranded. Yeah, if you're trying to get a strand job. Yeah, the east street strand Yeah, if you're a fan ski in the east street strand if you're all about jack strand, which I think we are Oh, yeah, say um, we'll never hear from again, by the way. Yeah, we are. No big cat. You haven't heard the stat No, I just know Michael Pentax has I think Kevin's fans can be like for America's sake We have to do something before this Thursday and I don't want let me tell you this Jack strand if you're a non-believer before listen First pass pick six, okay. He becomes the fourth quarterback in the history of the NFL Where their first pass is pick six the other three quarterbacks. Mm-hmm. Sam Donald. Mm-hmm. Brett Farve James Winston. Wait, I thought Brett Farve's first pass in the NFL was a completion to himself His first pass. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure his first pass was famously a completion to himself. But yeah, yeah, I guess it The set that I saw was those three. Okay, we're the only three others in the history of the NFL Which would be oh no was all right, so I guess it wasn't a pass to himself, which would be I thought it was a pass was an amazing Company for jack strand to to belong to yes, so let's not give up on jack strand just yet I might give up on jack strand. I'm not willing to do it. I'm willing to do you guys talk me off the left You need to give me at least one one prime time games. I'm stranding all alone at the at the edge of of the earth right now That pick wasn't his fault. That pick was not his fault. You're right correct. That's a fact. That's all I got We should talk about the panthers because the panthers played really really well and Bryce Young is Awesome right now. He had 277 yards three touchdowns. He also has like real weapons TET was sick like the deep balls the TET Jalen coakers awesome. Mm-hmm. Legate Darren Waller I feel like has retired like seven times and every time he'll just come back and Catch two touchdowns. I don't know where it just keeps happening where it's like oh yeah Darren Waller isn't retired Two touchdowns. That's a same face new place That last week against the bear as I was shocked. Yeah when they said that he was on the on the panthers Are the panthers are the panthers sneaky good or did they play the Falcons? Mm-hmm offensive juggernauts. Yeah, I mean they played against too bad the other Falcons defense No, they played the Steelers offense. So they look good because the Steelers offense What See there's might have a worse offense in the league. Yeah, no, they do. They absolutely do. Uh, I just know that Bryce Young looks good. And the Panthers for the first time since September 23rd, 2021, that's almost five years closed as a favorite and won the game and covered. Well, they'd have to, they'd have to win and cover. Oh, you get it. Yeah. They're on 12 straight up and against right over that time period. They did it. They won as a favor. They finally managed expectations. Yes. Yeah. I mean, they kicked the shit out of them, which it's like, uh, what you were saying last week memes with the levels games. Levels games are important. Like the, the Panthers might not be a world-beater, but they're a lot better than the Atlanta Falcons as currently stated. I don't know. I do think the Falcons, if they get just any other quarterback, they'll, they'll definitely look a lot better because they have all the weapons, but man, is it a tough one? So the, the Falcons fans were booing their offense in the first quarter, like halfway through the first quarter. Rightfully so. I very much rightfully so. I just don't remember the last time that Falcons fans have booed their own team. They don't strike me as a, like a boo your own team crowd. Yeah. But I like it. Yeah. They're, I mean, they're a bad team, man. Ooh, because they've had some stinkers. They're a bad team. Really, really bad. I feel bad for Kevin Svansky. It's, it's a, it's a, it's a tough, it's a tough go. They're a tough watch. I'm concerned why it took Svansky three quarters to bench Cooper Rush. Is he just hoping that things that, yeah, that Cooper Rush got better? I don't know. The Falcons are the first team since 2008 Rams to have no red zone plays in first two games of the season. That's, that's really hard to do. It's so tough to not even get like, just stumble into the red zone once. That's, that's incredible. I hope that Michael Pinnix is, is healthy because if he's not, they're going to be putting so much pressure on him to say that he's healthy. Yes. Oh, yeah. He's going to have to play. It's going to be, yeah. It's to fans. He's like knocking on his door a few times. They at the facility and just be like, Hey, how are you feeling? Yeah. Can I get you anything? Yeah. It's, it's, oh, there they have five turnovers through two games of pick six for two straight weeks. Not a single play in the red zone. Next two games on the road. Next three games in prime time. Yikes. Yikes. Yikes. Yikes. Yikes. That is your Atlanta Falcons. Oh, Colts. Gonna maybe, oh my god. I think he was down. Oh my god. I think he was down. This is crazy body language. He's acting like that was a fumble. I think he was, I think that was a, how touched, touched. All right. All right. Not wait. Was he touched before he would have done. I think he may have been touched before. That's a fumble. Somebody might have graced him. But did he have the ball? He's touched. No, nobody had the ball. He didn't have the ball. Possession up. This is great. This is great podcasting. 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I think, unfortunately, there's going to be Chief Spog. I think that's going to be game over. Look, look on Treble. Still in the league. Yeah, good for him. Yeah, good point, memes. Positive. I'm going to go with down. Yeah, it was done. Done. How done? Although, how down is done? Who's done? I think I could have been done. I think if this was a Chiefs player, he'd be down, but it is the Chiefs. Oh, Chiefs is the Chiefs. The Chiefs are the Chiefs. Damn, I think that they might, if it was the Chiefs, they would break out some rule we have never heard of before. Player was through announcing it down by content, please. Oh, it looks like they're not celebrating. Colorverse. Colorverse. Colt's still alive. First on. First done. Okay. And we play on. And we play on. Okay. Uh, where are we? Oh, brown 29 bucks 19 or 26 bucks 19 Zach. Yeah, you go into a game like this. You just think, hey, season or home opener, browns. These are going to go great. And then things just don't go good. They continue to not go good. And then you get beat by the, the Sean Watson and Browns. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. First in the Todd Bowl. It's the first matchup of two teams whose head coaches are both named Todd and NFL history. And they're both Todd Roberts. Oh, both had the same middle name. Yeah. I said at the start of the show, Zach, and it was like half tongue in cheek. You know, my quarterback got injured. PFT's quarterback got injured, but neither of us lost the shot Watson and the Browns. I, uh, you know, didn't look good. It didn't look good at all. It felt like a lot of the passers were behind line of scrimmage and the passes that were above the line of scrimmage were just way out of reach for guys to catch. Yeah. There's one silver lining. You know, Buggier Irving did his thing. He's a dog. Buggier Irving was really good, but they also, this also was a crazy game because it took five hours and 15 minutes to play the whole game because there was a two hour delay and it, it just was brutal. So if you're a Bucks fan to have to wait all that time, then to come back and lose. And I thought like the live line had the Bucks's favorites. They, they, they were in the better position. They had second and four on the 26 with two minutes left. You should be able to score from there. How do you come out of that ring delay? Just not a single duck in a row. You just come out sloppy. It was, it made no sense. Yeah. They were, they were in, in disarray. And I think that, yeah, it is tough because you go into that ring delay and you're already feeling like you kind of, you're losing the game. Yeah. So like you spend that two hours, like reading stats about the game, thinking about what's going wrong so far. So it's like you almost deal with one loss. And then you come back out and then you get another loss on top of that. So that's a, that's a tough way to, to, especially considering it's against the Brown. It sounded like Todd Monkin had the, the better plan in, in, in the ring delay. He said afterwards about the two hour lightning delay. We fueled. We hydrated. We played music. We kept the vibe up. We said we were in the driver's seat. And then after the game, he said the Browns are going to Brown's F that. Wait, did you say F that or fucked? I don't know if he said, I think he said F that. All right. All right, Todd. Todd's feeling sad. I see you Todd Todd's field. I mean, listen, first win for Todd, Todd Monkin in the NFL as a head coach. He said, everyone gets a game ball. I don't care what it costs. Kelly Moore, you've been put on notice. That's pretty cool. Everyone gets a game ball. Also, maybe the Browns found something. Have the entire media, Cleveland media and everyone in the NFL leak that to Sean Watson is about to lose his job. And then you get a decent to Sean Watson because he wasn't that bad today. Well, I mean, he had about half of what the expectation is for to Sean Watson. He had 238 yards passing in two touchdowns. Correct. But they put his job on the hot seat like all these reports came out before like they're going to evaluate after these games. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good game for Dishon. Maybe like a five dimensional chess move by Todd Monkin. There was one point in the game. I still need to try to find the footage of this. But the announcer said, Todd Monkin has dropped to his knees on the sidelines in despair about something. It was the fourth quarter they had. They only had two times left and they called one of them like eight minutes to go. And they were either down a little bit or up a little bit, but they had to call the time out. I need to see Todd Monkin dropping to his knees and despair on the sidelines. Todd Monkin has fallen. He has fallen, sir. Do you think did the Browns make the right decision trading for Dishon getting rid of Baker? So far in this game. Yeah. - Yes, we have two of the 2026 season, yes. - Yeah, it's time to ask the question. - Yeah, what do they extend to Sean? - Imagine. - It'd be the fun you want to know. - What are the boys laughing about in the booth? - Memes just screamed, it smells like pussy in here when the cults decided to not go for it on fourth down. - Oh, all right. - So that's what we're laughing at. - We're podcasting over here. - Tell him. (laughs) - Sean, you're Mike when you have to say it. All right, we're going to maybe have a tie, three minutes left for the cheese. - We deserve a tie. - That'd be fun. Cheese are gonna win with a Harrison Bucker feelable. - Todd Bowles said after the game, nobody is coming to save us. - Okay. - Which is not really that motivational of a message, I think, to send to your team. - Sounds like he's stranded. - Yeah. - Sounds like he's looking for a recorder. - He might be looking to get stranded. - Yeah, he's stranded. - No one's coming to save us. - If you're a buck and that's Todd's message to you after the game, that's you're not looking forward to coming to work on Monday. - Craven on Inspirational. - Yeah. - It was, yeah, no, Sean outplayed Baker today. Baker had a bad day. I don't know, the offensive line for the Bucks was supposed to be the strength and it doesn't look that way. I don't also, I mean, this is why I said, when we finished last season's like, how do you bring Todd Bowles back? It feels like you're back. The Bucks have since week eight of last season, when I think they started like six and one or something like that, they've gone three and 10. Three and 10 since week eight of last season. The only teams with the worst record are the Titans, Commanders and Cardinals. - Yeah. - So they've also lost 11 straight against the spread. That's hard to do. They make the spread so it's like, you know, it should be, you should be about 500 against the spread. 11 straight against the spread. - I was shocked when I saw that three and 10 stat, but it does also kind of remind you how hot the Bucks were at the start of last year. - Yeah. - They were really, they made it like a really good team in terms of closing out tough games. - But if a coach goes three and eight to end a season and it's the third year and like, you have the best roster in the NSC South, so you think you wouldn't bring him back. They brought him back and now you start O and two. Seems like we're just doing it again. - Because we are. - Right. - That's like, it's literally what they're doing. And Zach, this is tough one to get over, I think, for you. - Yeah, it wasn't a fun watch whatsoever. I know like, on paper it looks like the Sean like cut us up a little bit, but like a lot of those yards are just like, after the catch and we're just like, missing routine tackles and they're getting by like, two, three guys that like should have, I don't know. It was a lot of yards out there that shouldn't happen because the defense is playing sloppy as well. At one point, the bigger left of Huddle, he's holding this lower back. That made me a little nervous. I'm not sure what that is, but yeah, we go from here. I'm not gonna, it's week two. So Tables is the coach. I want him to do as good as he possibly can, you know what I mean. But it doesn't, it feels like Groundhog's day a little bit. - Yeah, don't feel good. - Also, Dom, I didn't see Dom for six hours and then he just turns the corner with it. - He's pretty loud. - With a dog bone necklace song and a jug. - Yeah, what are we? - He keeps talking about his lucky dog bone necklace. You can't have any lucky anything if you're a Browns fan. There can't be like, oh, every time I bring out the lucky dog bone. That doesn't make any sense. - Yeah, the only, I guess. - What would it, what would it be? - When you beat the Steelers and the playoffs at one time? - Yeah, but then where's it been? He's worn it many weeks. - If you have anything that's lucky, it's long since crossed over and before. - It's probably unlucky from the times that you've had to wear it. - Yeah. You look at the expiration date on that lucky and it's long since gone. - It would have been buried in the backyard several several years ago and dug up today. - Yeah, then it might be lucky. If it was a new thing. But yeah, the lucky dog bone, I don't understand that. But good for the Browns, listen. Browns fans are die-hards and they deserve a win and something nice, especially this early in the season. You're one in one now. Who do you got? Oh, now I'm actually nervous about this. So, dude wipes did a promo where next week, if they beat the Panthers by 22 or more, they're giving out, are they not putting the Panthers next week? - They do. - They do. The Browns match, they're not locked in. - They did. - The match just looked up the bucket years ago. - I knew it on Fox. If they beat them by 22 or more, dude wipes is giving someone $50,000. And I said to PFT, should we match? Browns might be good. - I think we should match. - I'd be scared to match. And I'm gonna throw in a new toilet. - As well. - Okay. - I'll buy a Browns fan of toilet. - Let's go 23 or more. So that way we can, we're not just totally taking there. - It's like a Browns ladder. - Yeah, yeah. 23 or more Browns beat. If the Browns beat the Panthers by 23 or more, PFT and I will find one lucky Browns AWL and give them $50,000 total. - And a toilet. - And a toilet. - Yeah. - Two toilets. - Do you want to match? - Yeah, I'll match your toilet. - That's huge. - I don't think anyone's-- - We'll have to make a graphic for it. It's gonna be a big game. - No one's ever won two toilets before I don't think. $50,000 and two toilets, that's pretty fucking huge. 23 points or more. - Yeah. There's no way. There's no way. - This is gonna be a hell of a gambling game if they're up like 17 late. - I mean the Shawn didn't look bad today. - No, no. - And there were even some drops I got left on the field. - Yeah. - Denzel Boston, did you see his quote about his big catch of Ronnie said, wait, wait, I gotta find it. It was a very funny, he said, "After I spawn out, "I see green grass up to the house, up to the Baja." - I don't know what the Baja is, okay. - But that's what he was thinking when he was running. - The bottom? - I'm to the Baja. - I'm to the bottom, I don't know. - To the Baja, okay, the Chiefs and Colts by the way are in overtime with two minutes left, tied 30 to 30, feels like Chiefs need like 15 more yards. - Harrison Bucker's gonna kick a 50. - Time would be sick for the winner. - Time would be sick. - I've seen this game so many times. - By the way, hand up on this show. Remember last week, we not do who's gonna win a game first, the dolphins of the Browns, we were very wrong. Very, very wrong. Browns, not the worst team in the NFL, they're not even bottom two. I think their, I mean, power rankings wise, the Bucks have to be worse. - Yeah, I went to. - Yeah, the dolphins are worse. - The Titans are worse. - Chargers are worse. - Yeah, worse. - Zach, are you, is season over or are you? - I was there a little bit ago. I was thinking that, okay, let's just move on, you know. - Let's just get stitches open there, but now though. - That's the only, so that's the thing. It's like, our division is so bad that every year you think somebody's got to win it, why not us? - Right, no one's two and no. - No, I think Panthers have a win, Saints have a win, and it's completely open still. So I'm not out of it whatsoever. We go to Vikings next week, football starts week three, and we go from there. - Okay, okay. - Football starts week three, you're still gonna go to war with Todd Bolz, though. - Have to. - Who do you want to play with the Vikings? Do you want to play against Kyler? Or do you want to try to luck with Wins? Wins is so bad. - I would like to play Kyler. - Kenneth Walker is so fucking good, dude. - Chiefs is the chiefs. - The chiefs is the chiefs. Cold's gonna cover, though. - Well, I mean, yeah, I shouldn't have said that. Maybe those famous last words. Those famous last words had enough. We'll talk college football on Wednesday, but I was on the wrong side of NC State, and I was paralyzed for about an hour, shocking, just sitting in just silence, and then I had UNC Clemson right after, and I said, "What am I doing? Why am I doing this?" It was quite something. Just sitting there on my couch, not speaking. Okay, afternoon games. Broncos 20 Jaguars 13 Broncos are back. That looked in the first half, like the Broncos season was gonna be over because we had the Jaguars come out, look good, look like they hadn't changed anything. From last week, and the way they ended last season, then, and we also had a really bad bonus interception at the end of the second quarter, really bad. But, the Broncos defense showed up in the second half, Bonyx started finding Jalen Waddle, he found him in the first half as well, and I see the vision. I see the vision with Jalen Waddle. He was explosive, it was cool to see. The Broncos defense played really well in the second half, that Riley Moss interception kind of changed the whole flow of the game, then they were pinning their ears back, they were getting to Trevor Lawrence. Broncos, not as bad as they looked week one. That was a dog shit interception, that Trevor Lawrence. Oh yeah, a third and sixth tough down the throw on, we all know that, but it was just a terrible decision. It was very clearly that Riley Moss had the inside position, don't know why through that. He described it as a very bad interception, and it was kind of like a little bit of the Broncos that we saw last year. It's nice to be like, okay, maybe that wasn't a complete mirage from last season. Yeah, to me going into, I said this on Friday's show, but it did feel like the Jaguars, like they could not be any higher than they were, and then the Broncos public Monday night football in front of the entire world ugly lost, looked like the worst possible team that possible iteration themselves, that they have been for the last two seasons. So it was nice to see that the Broncos still have some of that shit in them from last year. Yes, yes, I'd agree. That in their defense, especially in the second half, look like that where they were harassing Trevor Lawrence, getting him off his spot. We did have a couple of funny things happen in this game. Liam Cohen got an unsportsman-like penalty, which after a Travis Hunter pass interference, that was funny. I watched the replay. I think he just said, what the fuck is going on here? I don't know why that would be a flag, but that kind of sucked for Liam Cohen. And we also had, I was thinking about it. The Davis Webb offensive coordinator thing with Sean Payton. Sean Payton is actually a genius because you can move Davis Webb upstairs. I forgot about that. He's downstairs right now. Sean Payton actually did give him an out-of-boy and was like, good job at the end of the game. They showed that. But there was a moment, Chiefswin 33-30. We'll get to that game at the end. So Davis Webb, in the first half, I noticed it. They were cutting to him a lot and like the frustration. It feels like that was a, I'm not saying that Sean Payton told him that, but when you have your offensive coordinator front and center like that, being like, this is the guy. This is the problem. This is the problem. This is the problem. He was on the hot seat. It felt like in the first half. Even though the interception was Bonyx, not Davis Webb. Then second half, they found their rhythm and Jalen Wattel looked great. So Davis Webb, he's okay. And Sean Payton again, smart move to give the actual buffer that you can always move him upstairs as your next course of action. And not just fire him and take control. And then you can move him back. You can move him back. You can move him right back down. And that might solve some things. Yes. Yeah, I don't know what to make of the Broncos. Just like I didn't know too much what to make of them last season. I think they're going to be a team that if they get the breaks go their way, they will be involved in the playoffs. But I don't think that they're, I don't know. I still haven't seen any improvement from them from last year. I'll say this. Bonex winner like fifth career win when trailing by double digits. He's been in the NFL for three years. That's, I mean, you're never out of it with Bonex. Sometimes they'll put you in that double digit hole. But it'll also be a part of the reason why you can get out of it. And he threw the ball nicely like deep. I just Sean Payton's wife, you had a good fantasy day. Yeah, good job. Yeah, I mean, a lot of the, a lot of the mistakes that have been made, I don't necessarily think that you can point to Davis Webb and say this is his fault. No, I think that it's going to be very convenient that if they're often, it doesn't have a good game. Of course, one of the first things people are going to say is like, well, you have a whole fame play collar and he's not calling plays. Correct. Why? Correct. But in reality, sometimes like players do stupid shit. Yeah. The Trevor Lawrence had a 19.8 passer rating in the second half. So that tells you what the Broncos defense was able to do and dial up. Do you guys want to do a real quick idiot jazz? Because I, I don't know why this popped in my head, but it did. I think it was because I was just looking back through this game. And I was like, you know, I know what changed the game. It was a Riley Moss interception. Riley Moss might be the one one name in the NFL for could be a hot porn star. Do you guys agree? Yeah, there's not a lot of guy names that could be girl names. Right. Riley Moss. So then I looked at it, the Broncos might be the one one team right now in the NFL for hot porn stars because Bo Nix could be a hot porn star too. Riley Moss, I think you'd have to change it to Nikki Bonito, but Nikki Bonito would be like it was N.I.K.K.I. And then Tyler Batty might just be a hot guy porn star. Tyler Batty's good. That's it. They might lead the league in points. What are you saying? Like bone. No, I think bone X could be a chick's name too. Packers got a couple Packers got. So I looked it up. What about what about? I went through a couple. Yeah. Jordan love is good. Skymore. Skymore Jordan love. I hate it. Facial Tutin. No, I don't think that's no facial facial Tutin. Yeah, but it's like actual porn star names. Yeah. Yeah. The Viking sneaky have a decent porn star team because they had. I was looking through it. DJ Dallas. Like this could be guy or girl porn star DJ Dallas Cameron Cameron dance or could be a chick. Jordan Madison could be a chick. Dallas Turner could be I think both. And then Bo Richter is like a dude with like a 16 inch cock. Yeah. Bo Richter. Bo Richter is pretty good. And then I went even deeper again. I'm sorry. This is really stupid that this spent. I spent 15 minutes of my time prepping for games and I went through this. I think the winner though would be the 2024 Miami Dolphins because the 2024 Miami Dolphins had Skylar Thompson. That is a hot chick porn starting. Kendall Fuller. Yeah. Also hot chick porn starting. Kendall Lam Storm Duck, which I don't even know what that would be. River Craig craft. Spend that as a producer. Yeah. And then David Long would be a dude, but David Long would work. Yeah. I'm trying to think what else we got. If I had more time, I think I could go historically. Right now Lad McConkey sounds like a bear's porn star. Bears have a few. Yeah. Devon Bush. Yeah. Kalmanung guy. Sky Thomas. Sky. Sky. Sky works. Colston Loveland. There's something here. Yes. That is big time. We should do the all. Maybe we do that like Groot and Grinders, but we just do the all porn star team. We should do that. We should actually do that. Yeah. One that I think also part of why I was thinking this with Riley Moss is that the Broncos did have a classic could be a hot porn star in Ashley Lee. Remember him? Yeah. Ashley Lee was a hot, that's a hot girl name. Every time I saw Ashley Lee, I was like, that should be a hot chick. Yeah. Maybe we'll do that. Is he the only Ashley to play? I think he might be. We should do this though. We should do the all porn team for for name Sam Knight would be another good one. That's good. That's good. Max Strong would be a good guy porn star name. Like there you can do both. He doesn't have to just be chicks. Colston Loveland is good. You're right. But I think you have to have what were your other sky Cam Lewis is another one. You need to have a. It needs to be. DJ Dallas. Yeah, it needs to be. I said that for the Vikings. You need to have a equal like guy and girl. You can't just be like all guys, they got to be talking each other. Yeah, right. Exactly. The Skylar Thompson Kendall Fuller Dolphins though. Come on. Any name, Kareem. Kareem. Yeah. Either way, something we should maybe do at some point, we should do the all 22 of porn star names. Skylar Thompson has to be starting quarterback. Skylar Thompson. Yeah, 100%. Skylar. Thanks. Skylar's a stripper name. It is. Jordan Loveland. Jordan Loveland. Jordan Loveland. It's pretty damn good. You're right. You're right. You're right. Frankie Louvue. Yeah. Frankie. Yeah, Frankie. Frankie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. That was all I had there. Broncos window. Broncos are back. It looks a lot like it did last year. Yeah. I agree. I agree. I agree. And they're. I. There's something about Bonex that you just can't quit him. When he did that that interception he threw in in the second quarter was so so bad. It was so so it was awful just like chucked it up in the end again. And it's like I that's not something that Davis Webb had on the play sheet. Yeah. But it was just bobe and bow. It was it was it was one of those situations where I was like I think I'm done with the Broncos and then and then he was back. It was like all right. He's fine. So I I don't know there's there's a I can't quit Bonex even though sometimes I really really really want to all right. Let's take a break for two more ads before we get back to the games they're brought to buy are very good friends over at state farm. What approach insurance isn't going to be a perfect fit for everyone. Every football player brings something different to the field some have speed some have power some of their own podcast that being said no two players are exactly alike. 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We thank Blutru for sponsoring the pod and the bedroom. - Okay, Shane, get in here, sit. He's got his Chargers poncho. - Are you bolted, Shane? - Raiders 26. - Always bolted. - Chargers 14. Shane, I told you before, but the Los Angeles Chargers will be my pinky team. They're so bad. They're not gonna win the Super Bowl. - It's a great choice. - I had the only time I've ever felt like, fully, fully safe. And I looked it up because I know people are gonna get upset. The Chargers before the season had on draft Kings sports. They had, hold on, I'm gonna pull it up. I believe they had 15 to 1 odds. So, what? - That's a probably, I think they don't know. - 15 to 1 odds. So, for people like, oh, they'd never had a chance to win the Super Bowl. What are their 17 to 1? They were one, two, three, four, five, six, seventh, eighth team. They were ahead of the Texans. They were ahead of the Niners, the Lions, the Broncos, the Bengals, the Bears, the Cowboys. That's a team that was in the conversation. Super aspirations, they are dog shit, Shane. - Yeah, it's not good. - And they're scheduled right now. These were the two games that you had to win. - Had to. - And you lost both of them. The schedule from this point on is the second hardest in the entire NFL. - I think it's, someone did the, like went through all the analytics. And in the last 10 years, it's like the third hardest schedule. I need teams, since like 2017. - Yeah, you guys are getting fucked now. - Yeah. - Where do we, who's, let's do the blame game. Let's start the blame game. - You wanna get the pie out? - Yeah, let's get the blame pie out. We're gonna talk about the Raiders 'cause Raiders do need some love starting to know for the first time and feels like forever. And, you know, Kirk Cousins was awesome today. - Let's cut the pie though. - Whew. - Okay. - How much do you deserve? - I think. - You look ridiculous. - Mm-hmm. - Yeah, you invited me on the calculate. - Ridiculous. - That looked like day was a shame. - I would never wear something that ridiculous. - I didn't wear any Chargers gear today, so you asked me to come on the couch. I have to come bolt it up. - No, no, no, no. - This is the punishment that like, we made you wear this. - And I just, yeah, I want it on the record. You were wearing that before I asked you to come on the show. - That's not true. - Yes, it is. He was walking around in that all afternoon. - There you were. - Yeah, I mean, literally memes. I said you're gonna have to come on tonight. I said it to him while he was wearing this. - I'm still bolted up, like. - Max, it was true. - I don't think that's true. - That's insane. - You did tell me that you wanted me on the show after, so I put it on. - I thought you were wearing that, this hat. - Yeah. - So, okay. - All right, fine. - You were wearing it at some point, yeah? - Yeah, after. - Okay, my badge. - But I needed like, I need to put myself up. - My badge. - I apologize, Max. - I don't know. Jim Harbaugh is the big one. - Okay. - I think there's just a lot of dumb decisions. They've been like, platooning guards, so every other drive, they're just swapping out a guard. - Oh, that's really smart. - Yeah, really smart. - I've never heard of that. - Really consistent, really helps with offense. - Do they have a reason? - I don't know, I blame Mike McDaniel to an extent. I just think, the Greg Roman offense, they were running. That's like kindergarten. That's like the most basic offense there's in now. Mike McDaniel's coming. He's throwing in all these motions and everything. They just, however long training camp was, they just wasn't long enough for them to like, get in tune with everything and everything. - You were training camp. - Everything's so timing based. They're just, one person makes a mistake and throws off the whole play. So I could see, I could see a possibility where in these next few games, they get momentum going and offense starts to click and like, but it's not looking good right now. These two games, I said before the Cardinals game, like, both of these are must wins. This is like, - Yeah. - The loss of both. - Yeah. - But if you lose back-to-back must wins, that's tough. - Yeah, really tough. We're gonna have to make up. I mean, what if you're just not, what if we look back, you're like, actually, yeah, the Raiders and Cardinals were better than the Chargers. - You could. - I mean, you could make the case that the Cardinals like, I think Cardinals pretty underrated. Like, they're out of the- - No, I think the Cardinals are bad. They got absolutely so. - So yeah, but I mean- - But the Raiders might not be bad. - Even before the game, I was telling Colton, like, I could see a path where the Cardinals win. But- - Okay. - The Chargers defense is a big problem. It's like, stale level bad. It was a little better today, but- - What about, well, I mean, Kirk Cousins, like, he was lighting you guys up. - Three touch, I mean- - He was throwing a deep, too. That was my big thing when I said he played Good-ish week one. It's 'cause he couldn't throw the deep ball today. He did. - It was like two broken plays, though. It was like miscommunication with safety. I don't know. Obviously, I'm not. What about when you snapped the ball while Tray Harris was in motion and hit him? - Yeah, that's what I was talking about. - Tray and I can't. - Tray and I can't- - They need to practice more. It's what I'm hearing. - Yeah, the Herbers said after that, he was just like, time was running out, he was trying to rush it, but- - There might have been a couple of days where Herb I was like, "Hey, I know that we don't have practice, "and I can't make you guys come in, but it'd be really good." Maybe come in your day off. - Yeah. - What about- - What about Herbert, does he get any blame? - Of course. - Yeah, how much? - Greatest of all time. - The last game, a lot more blame than he should get this game. There was some like really bad receiver plays. Did you see first drive? Did you see the Aronde Gads then just like bat the ball away from Branson? - He threw a good ball to receiver, and yeah. - Our tie down was playing defense. And then the Enjoku Interception, like just a bunch of crazy plays. There's a whole shot to Quint Johnson. He just didn't catch. It's just like a bunch of mistakes everywhere. We're driving down the field to tie the game and Amari and Hampton fumbles the ball. It's like- - Yeah. - That was a great, I'm watching this. - Oh, right now. This is a great break up by Gadsdon. It was crazy. You didn't like Hank making those noises. - No, he just oomed me. - Yeah, I mean he oomed me. - The way you did off the chest. - No, I felt bad. I felt your pain in the way you said he fumbled the ball. That's just like, hmmm. - Yeah, Ramonde's the worst. - Stevenson does the fucking five times again. - Yeah. Okay, get it off your chest, Hank. Yeah, get it off your chest. - I don't know. I've been pretty open about like- - How bad is this? - Yeah. - Can I give you a stat, which I know you've probably seen. Have you seen the stat I'm about to say? Is it the Angel Luxap? - No. - Oh. - No, no. - How much of the Blame Pie does Miss Beard get? - Hmm. I think she gets a small piece of the pie. - Small piece of the pie. - But definitely, I think definitely a piece of the pie. - Yeah, you're gonna have to. - Yeah. - No, that pie is for you, as we said. - Yeah. - Yeah. - What's the stat, let's hear it. - All right. Team Salus back-to-back home games by double digits. I guess teams with a sub 200 winning percentage, the previous season. - The last one was like, it was like the Akron Wizards or something like that. - No, close. It's the 2026 Los Angeles Chargers. And the 1926 racing tornadoes. Now here's the problem, Shane. The racing tornadoes, they did this in 1926. They then played one more game. Then they dissolved as a franchise. They'd never played another game. They just ceased to exist. So you're on franchise dissolution watch. If history had told us anything, you are going to play one more game and then just never be a franchise again. Also, fun fact, Mitt Romney's dad was the quarterback for them in 1922. - That's a very fun fact. - Oh, 24, I believe. The racing tornadoes. - That's a crazy stat. - And then one more game and then they quit. They also were led by a full-back slash kicker, Hank Gillow. - And the two games, these two games, same score. Ended same score, 2614. - You guys want to guess the size of their full-back? - I think it's probably 511 and 205 pounds. - Close. 510, 195 pounds. - Wow. - Yeah, that's their full-back. - It's probably a beast. He probably also built a railroad. And in the offseason was an incredible plumber. - Yeah, probably was a World War I veteran. - Yeah, yeah. - Can I share a stat with you that this isn't really. - Please, no. - It's pretty random stat, but I just had it in the pocket. - Oh, sorry. - Pitter said no. - Yeah. - Not interested. - All right. - It's a charger stat. - It's a Justin Herbert stat. - Yeah. - All right, Hank, what do you think? - You want the Justin Herbert stat? - Yeah. - Okay. - Andrew Luck in '94 games was sacked 185 times. Justin Herbert in '99 games. This was before this last game. How many times was he sacked? - Andrew Luck, how many games again? - 94 games, 185 times. Justin Herbert in '99 games, and this stat was from before this today's game. - I'm going to guess it was 241 times. - I was say 375. - PFT South of stat. - Did I get it? - Yeah, it was right on the top. - I did have this written down for today. - Okay, so he's been sacked 241 times. - With 99 games. - 2.43 sacks per game. - Now, is it a sack partially a quarterback stat? - It is. - So that's what I was saying when you're, I saw all those clips of last week where you had like three guys blocking one dude. And some of that is on the offensive line. Yes, but I think some of it's also on the quarterback. - Yeah, that one play from last week. I mean, I don't know if Harbaugh was just like throwing the tray hair under the boss. He was like, he was saying that basically in the Shanahan offense or whatever. They have like these outs for when a lot of pressure is coming to the quarterback 'cause when a lot of the guys come, there's space behind them. And tray hair is supposed to run an out route and he ran in instead. So there's nobody behind those guys. So Harbaugh kind of had to eat the sack. At least that's what he said. Maybe he was just like taking blame away from Harbaugh. - How's the, did you listen to the bolt-up podcast? How do you boys do it? - I did it. It's hard to click on the podcast when the vibes are this low right now. - Yeah. I think I will eventually but I agree it is funny to think about you like you're you're too upset to click the link for the podcast. I mean I might as some other point but I just I don't really want to hear right now about how bad everything is I know how bad everything is. I thought that Cleo Mack had a good quote in the post game they asked him what the message from from Coach Harbaugh was and he goes honestly I just blanked out the whole time I don't really know that's exactly what you want to hear. Yeah. I think Cleo Mack's allowed to say this he goes my mind was on the game but I feel like it had something to do with picking up the pieces and getting this thing right. Yeah. Just kind of like doing the word salad that might be what Harbaugh said after the game. Yeah. It's such a shame to like every time we get like maximum hope for a season like we got Kellyn Moore and the offense was like the team was shit. We have Greg Roman teams fine and then we get Mike McDaniel and then it's like shit again. Yeah. Yeah. Blow it up is what Kilt his charge hasn't. That's what they're saying. Yeah. Blow it all up. I was it went from crossroads to blow it up. I would be lying if I didn't say that Jeremiah Smith the cross by mine at some point today. Wait. Keep scroll over. I want to see with the. All right. It went from LADDNP patience question mark. Baldur dash crossroads blow it up. That's a pretty good stretch there for guilty as charged. Yeah. Shut up. Those guys. Those guys are awesome. So what does blow it up mean? Because when I hear blow it up I'll tell you what I think toilet. No. I was just like everybody everybody's gone. Yeah. Note like fire Harbaugh. I'm not saying this. I'm saying Herbert blow it up means Harbaugh fired. Herbert. Herbert fired. Herbert fired. Herbert fired. Herbert fanboys will never never turn on her. That's what blow it up in conversations about Herbert. There's a lot of Viking fans who are trying to get something going. Oh that would be that Vikings would be good. So the chargers that are owned to with losses teams that pick first and third in last year's draft. That's probably the first time I've ever happened. Yeah. What? Pickouts making noises. Oh, yes. Sorry. I mean, teams teams can turn around. You saw a Patriots last year. Like maybe that's just me being hopeful. And okay. All right. Yeah. That's all right. But my pick is on the line now. I can't. Your schedule is the second hardest. I can't say in the history of the NFL third hardest. Yeah. Like Patriots didn't have that schedule. What do you mean? No, they did not. That's why it's turned around. We too. Yeah. What do you mean? They didn't have that. They did lose the writers. Yeah, but then those are the ones that we won we too. Yeah. Yeah. And when they're fucking roll. No, I know, but mentally I just can't be. I can't be out on the season. Yeah. I agree with you. You can't. You want to know. You still want to believe that. Yeah. Of course. Yes. I agree with that. I agree with that. Like I, I don't know. Hey, you didn't lose to the brown. They can click. We didn't lose the browns. Yeah. Right. You lost to the cardinals at home and then and then you lost to the right. Yeah. This is Sean Watson and the Browns. Yes. Memes is a question for me. I don't know why. Max is what? When are you ready to call the season? When am I ready to call the season? We got the bills next week. Yeah. Bill is not going to be fun. I don't know the exact. I know it's like bills, rams, liners. Bill Stephen's not at Seahawks home against Broncos at chiefs at ramps. If there's a team that you could maybe get, right? No, just like in terms of offensively, the bills might be it. Bill's not like it to trust me. Yeah. I got I mean, it was perfect that there was the game ended on a safety for holding in the end zone. I know. Joe Walt has not been good. I mean, he was good last rate. This is for today. He was not he had he had four three penalties today or Sean said he had four. He had four himself. Yeah. The whole offensive lines that fucking we had a hundred million dollars in cap space. Yes, Max. Okay. Best case scenario. Where do you see your record after week seven? Good question. At bills, at Seahawks home against the Broncos at chiefs at rams. Best that sounds like what is how many weeks of that seven seven weeks. Best I think three and four. I think three and four, but you beat the Broncos in the cheeks. I think we split with them this year. That's what I thought going into it. If you could beat them, you're in it. But like that's still not still not three and four. No, no, win one other game too. Yeah. He's saying. And then you win one of that. I don't know. It's at rams. Yeah. Sam Donnell's not playing. Yeah. Rams isn't even in a way, game, dude. Poon of four. Just go right across the locker room. Seriously. We'll take him. Yeah. Well, no, you can't take him. He's on the other team. Yeah. No, but I would take him in a heartbeat. Well, yeah. Obviously. Wow. Like there's trades that happen in the NFL. Yeah. True. They got him Donald back. They don't need Poon. He's man's splitting. I know. The NFL, do you? He told me someone couldn't happen. That could. Yeah. True. He got you there. 15. What do you think about Harbaugh not even being able to talk to the media after the game because the Raiders chance in their own study were too loud? I mean, that's been the story of so five for years. Yeah. I mean, the only way to fix that is to win games and we can't or you can leave. That's another way to fix it. I would love to be in San Diego. Yeah. That wasn't even a joke. No, I know. I agree. He has no legions to L.A. Like, you know, it's like the chargers. I would love for him to be in San Diego. Yeah. That gave a lot of like there to actually be like a home field advantage. Like, I don't know. Maybe. Okay. Come back. Thank you, Shane. Sorry. Poon will come back. That sucked. That was a really brutal game to watch. Yeah. It's really sad. We need to. The only way I can see us making play. We have to get like 10 wins. And that's so I'll I'll be out on the if we start 0 and 6 0 and 7. Like, then it's so I've hope no return. That will be now. That would be tough. I stranger things have happened. Yeah. Yeah. And also here's good thing is my picky team. I think like two years in a row has made the playoffs. Yeah, starting 0 and 2. They always have to start 0 and 2. Yeah. So what if this is a year? Honestly. Yeah. Like, next game, the offense could look great and things turn around. I'm just hoping that's the case. Yeah. Memes, do you have one last question? For the pinky team. Has anyone ever started 0 and 3 and made around? Uh, I think the Texans the first year did. Did they not? That Texans year with, uh, Aryan and J.J. Why? Oh, and I know they're obviously their own two, but I think they might have lost the third game. Have you ever picked anyone's team that's from the podcast? No. Would I be involved in the? Yes, you can. Absolutely. You can absolutely cut it off. Perfect. Or nod off. You want to nod off? Like eat it. Yeah. Let's let's let's work. Let's win a game first. Yeah. Let him. Let him. Let him. Let him. Let him. Let him. Let him. Let him dream about biting big cats. Pinky off. Yeah. It's mean what you're doing right now. Come on. Max loves to just. Yeah. He walks down. Yeah. He's making noises. Yeah. I pick the charge. He's been pretty. I pick the charge. You go to the Super Bowl. You do hate the chargers. Why do I have to take about them? Well, they're, I'm just being realistic. Herbert was my MVP. You hate the charger. Same. Has it? Herbert? Has anybody? No. Wait, no, you said he was your least valuable. But I pick you weren't listening, Max. I am. I'm looking at the charger schedule. I'm trying to figure out how they get back in this. And I don't, I just don't see it. Uh, the 2018 Texans, uh, Texans, I believe for my picky team, they started Oh and three. So there you go. So it's happened. She is Herbert. Is he hurt? Is that the next step in the Herbert Apologist tour? Is he? He's hurt right now. Yeah. The other reason is I've been pretty up front with like Herbert when he sucks and not. Yeah. But this game, I don't think it was Mr. His. Okay. All right. Thank you, Shane. Thank you guys. All right. Let's up. Yeah. We always stay bolted. Uh, Raiders. Congrats. Two and all. This is awesome for Raiders. And Kirk cousins looked good. Like I said, he looked better than good than, than, last week. Max Crosby continues to be an absolute beast. Also, Kirk cousins didn't have a run game today. And Brock Power still hasn't played. And he's coming back. Yeah. So like back in a little bit like a couple of weeks, I think the Raiders, man, I don't know. It's two and oh, it's, I, it couldn't know it. But like Raiders fans should cherish this moment. And two and oh, it's such an awesome feeling to be like, Oh, we're two and a, like, that's such a cool feel. Yes. Start looking at the, uh, the odds like what percentage of two and oh teams make the playoffs? Yeah. Start thinking about all that stuff. And it seems like you have a very, very smart head coach. Kirk cousins looks like he's taken, he looks like a 37 year old out there. Yeah. He looks great. So good for the Raiders. Good for the Raiders. Um, I, I mean, they have a tough schedule as well coming up, but it doesn't matter because your two and oh, two and oh buys you till at least like mid October, like, whoa, what you're two and three, you're still alive, you know, it gives you a nice, nice wiggle room for the whole thing. Okay. Uh, a couple more games. And we'll get to these quick and then we'll get to Cowboys Commanders. Seahawks 31 Cardinal seven. Jackson Smith and Jigba is awesome. No, duh. Nine, nine for 155 and three touchdowns. And the offense basically was like, get into a situation where we need JSN. Find JSN. And they did that. And the See ya! Defense the the Cardinals were so overmatched so they actually had one good they had a classic Jacobi per set like good drive to start After that drive for the final three quarters of the game This the the Cardinals got had 75 total yards and if you take out the garbage time they had 24 yards in garbage time So even it actually had less they had they had 51 total yards from the second quarter on Excluding garbage time the Seahawks defense suffocated them. They allowed 39 yards on 14 carries and they had 18 QB pressures They just dominated that was not a fair fight. They're a very very good team still. Drew Lock is I love Drew Lock I don't know what it is about him. He might be my favorite backup quarterback in the NFL right? Dude because he's not a backup like he gets his backup quarterback But he's not there's some guys that are backup quarterbacks and in the fact that Drew Lock has stuck around Being essentially a starter in a backup role. Correct. He does not have that same mentality that most of the backups have It's a testament to just how good he can be at his highs. Mm-hmm. And now there will be lows. Oh, yes There will be loads of Drew Lock But he is never gonna like doubt confidence in himself. He's going to go out there keep slinging it when you have JSN he can do it He can push the ball down field like that. I think until the last minute of this game JSN had all of the Seahawks touchdowns this year, and then I think they scored one rushing touchdown with a Minute left in the game today, but just as dominant as he's ever been and yeah I fucking love watching Drew, Drew Lock sling the pill. Yeah, it's very fun. Seahawks have won 12 straight games So 12 straight games. They're just really really good and they can wait till they're good enough that Sam Darnold doesn't have to rush back because their defense can beat just about anyone. Mm-hmm So we had talked about these Cardinals jerseys when we first saw them this off season. Yeah, I actually thought they looked pretty good They did and it's mainly because you couldn't like zoom in and see the like splatter on them But it was a good cream colored helmet. Yeah, good logo. I agree Seahawks good Cardinals not good. Yep Cardinals good vibes from week one turns out chargers might be really bad I mean, there's just a difference in skill level and everything between the sea. I like this is why Jacobi percent He's Jacobi percent did the classic Joe Kobe percent by winning the first game and having everyone think oh This is actually going to be a functional offense. Oh, this is gonna be good. It's not all right Second last game. I'm gonna do this one real quick unless you have something else 9 or 35 dolphins 13 The 49ers first five possessions 12 plays 59 yards touchdown eight plays 71 yards touchdown 4 plays 65 yards touchdown eight plays 71 yards touchdown two yard two plays 28 yards touchdown first five possessions five touchdowns game over Thank you for coming out dolphins Yeah, I just have one fun fact from this game The dolphins completed a quarterback sneak up the middle in this game That was the first time that the dolphins did that since week two of 2022. Oh, that's a two-estat. Yeah, so it's been Yes, it be four years since the dolphins had run a successful quarterback sneak is that when is it do you is that when you Like can finally move on when you get rid of all the bad two-estats I think that might be the last one. That's like hey, we can finally walk away from this the dolphins are the worst team in the NFL in my opinion Yeah, the fact that that they were given as to get right game for the the Niners getting back from Australia, yeah, no jet lag got the shit kicked out of them No jet if the Rams lose this game on Monday night football Shama phase gonna look like the biggest dummy when it comes to the trying to time travel because the Niners did not look back like No, no jet lag. I thought that they would I mean, I didn't think that they'd lose the dolphins, but They came out and played perfect I brought pretty was 20 for 22. Yeah, I was shocked I was shocked at how good they look considering how much time they had just been overseas. Yeah, and and by the way George Kittle back Beast and the last that I had was Christian McCaffrey is now only the third player all time to have 50 plus touchdowns with two different teams That's a pretty cool stat. That's very cool. So it's him Marshall Falk Randy Moss. I Thought your own bet is to be on there people forget he played for the Rams. He's a ram. He's a rookie season. Yeah, I think it was all in the rookie of the year Yeah, I'll people forgot that people forget that well young people young people forget that okay last game not that young Cowboys 37 commanders 20 Yep, PFT yet happened again. Yeah, the elbow the elbow thing happened again Before the injury happened I'll just talk about the first half real quick Two really bad defenses going at it with each other commanders probably worse than the Cowboys But I thought Jane looked pretty good using the wheels Throwing the ball down field pretty effectively. I was feeling I was feeling good about things I was I was like at least this is gonna be an exciting game at least we're gonna get to see probably a shoot out Jaden looks like he's back to his old self and I didn't know how right I was that Jaden looked like he was back to his old self because then at the end of the first half commanders are going in we decided to go for it at the end of the first half instead of kicking a fuel goal and Jaden gets stepped on on the play puts his arm down to brace himself Left hand elbow bent back and then they just showed that replay over and over and over and over again Mm-hmm. I don't know how many times it felt like you showed it 10 times in the afternoon slate So at that point mentally, I kind of I kind of checked out on this game Because yeah, we were still in it still had a chance to win or at least make it competitive But if we're being completely honest at that point that was that was kind of the season flashing before my eyes I think Jaden is probably I don't know. They're gonna do MRIs and stuff But it's probably gonna keep happening his elbow is probably gonna keep yeah falling off Every time he goes to the ground or tries to brace himself from falling Unless he gets the surgery. Yeah, and then he wears a brace afterwards because this wasn't even that hard And he just put his arm down to kind of prop himself up and it snapped back and yeah, it was um It was bad. What do they say how long it's gonna be so probably if it's like it was last year He heard it against the sea hawks and the game that he should not have been in And then he was all good to go four weeks after that probably rushed it back and immediately re-entered it against the Vikings Is he gonna have to get surgery this time? That's what I'm saying is like He might try to play through it and if he does play through it He better wear the brace the entire time and even if that happens I'm just convinced that every time he gets tackled his elbow and there's a lot of bad tape of Me specifically before the draft talking about how his elbow looked great Oh, like before he even became because remember that one picture of it. Yeah, it looks all weird. It was like his right elbow that looked weird But yeah, it was It was gruesome to watch it sucked I'm I'm thinking that I don't want to know. I don't want to say that what say it I'm just worried that the guy's body isn't made for tackle football for the NFL and college football made and he was so good in the first half Like he he was back to his old self. He was having a great game And the defense was letting him down, but At some point you have to be able to get tackled and not have your elbow Look like it's completely disjointed from the human body. Yeah, so I hope that he gets the surgery I hope it gets fixed and then if you asked to wear a brace, then I'll be okay with that because you can't call it a freak injury anymore Right a freak injury doesn't happen three times in the span of like seven months now Drew breeze apparently had the same thing happened to him I forgot about this Drew breeze dislocated his elbow at the pro bowl. Oh, yeah And then that was like 2008 and he came back had a really good career after that So that kind of thing can't happen, but he didn't dislocate his elbow three times Because at that point, it's just you know with JD it's gonna keep happening unless it gets the surgery. So I'm thinking get the surgery Get back 100% and some people are met at Dan Quinn for putting him in danger by like Having him go out there and run that play if you truly think that you are a loser and like that's that's ridiculous Right to be like oh, well Dan Quinn should have been going for it at the end of the half No, that's he put his quarterback in danger. No, he put his quarter He was going for just try to try to score touchdown. He fell down like he got stepped on and fell down You can't say and even if he wasn't a step on and fall down you're playing football You're trying to win the game. You can't start. Yeah, you can't start like coaching being like well He could get injured on this point. Yeah, you can't do that. You can't do that. So that's that's a terrible like some people I think are just trying to like be the first to have that take right that's ridiculous. I'd agree with that Tom Brady hit me with a shit. Oh shit when he saw it Yep, and then he hit me with a piss when you talk about a piss missile later. Yep. Tom with a vulgar potty mouth on the air didn't really appreciate that for the kids out there It was it sucked. It sucked seeing Jane get hurt again and I Was saying this on the stream. There's only like six This is I'll put it put this way There's like eight teams in the NFL that you should that their their fans are are saying to root for and I know outside of those eight teams you're gonna get shit on you're gonna have a little bit of hope at the start of every year And you're gonna be like oh well, we finally found a reason why why we can turn this around we can become one of those eight teams that has a chance and Then it never works out for those eight teams teams. It just, it just crashes down. You will never break in to that club. That's at the top, where unless you're a fan of those eight teams, being a football fan and an NFL fan is a miserable experience marked by periods of joy and hope that just exists so that they can crush you again. They make you think you're going to get to the top and then you get something really, really cool and a great player that could turn everything around and then it just gets taken away from you and you never get there. But if you're a fan of those eight teams, football is great. But if you're not, you just think, oh, I'm up next. I'm going to be in that group eight. It'll be me. My suffering is over. Yes. It's, and it's never going to happen. It sucks. That's the thing about football. It's never going to happen. No, he look, look at the chiefs tonight. It's like my home's out for a year and then he's just back. Being a chiefs fan is awesome back. He's all the way back. And then I got Jade and I was like, I'm going to be the chiefs. I'm not, you were for a year. I'm not going to be the chiefs. It'll never happen. Yeah. But I thought I was almost the chiefs. Maybe maybe it's going to be, I mean, it's not, it's not a throwing show elbow. You guys think comes back first. It seems like killed. I know. I'm also under the impression. Like everything I have said on this podcast today could just be completely irrelevant and like washed away. If tomorrow I wake up and they're like killed towards hamstrings out for the season. I'm more, I'm in a different spot than PFT and the fact that I thought it was a kill ease. So anything less than a kill ease. I was like, okay, we can deal with this. PFT knows what this is. It happened. And it's happened before where it's like, I had the reverse where it's like, I thought of the absolute worst and then a minute they said that it's not the absolute worst is like, oh my God, we're fine. Jayden is my guess is he's going to push to come back in like four or five weeks. Let's see what the schedule is now that shakes out. But hey, today's your question. I, uh, without knowing because tomorrow again, could be the I, I am, I will be disappointed if I'll be very, very upset if Caleb misses. I'm expecting right now from to miss four to six weeks. If he misses more than four to six weeks, I'm going to be like, well, that's the season. Six weeks. I've put in my head. I've done the calculations. I think the bears could still make the playoffs. If he misses four to six weeks, entice and be agent treads water max. Do you want him to come back in five weeks? You're talking about Jayden. Yes. It depends on it depends on if his elbow is going to dislocate again. Correct. Yeah. Do you think it seems like he needs to get this shirt? It seems like he needs to get this taken care of. Do you think you fix it forever? It should. Yes. So what happens is like you think that the commanders are going to be contenders with no, like I feel like the only way, the only way that they would be contenders is if he was their starting quarterback and healthy. So he won't be for the next five weeks. No. It seems like he should just get the surgery and on this year, but it's so early to for me to give up mentally on a season. Is Shane has I know I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to help you. No, I mean, the fact of the matter is maybe I shouldn't ever have any expectations for, for my, I think I'm just going to go back to just, just, just, just being a hater. But no, I don't think it's maybe that's that should be my life. He gets the surgery. He gets it fully, fully healed. Yeah. It's not his throwing shoulder or throwing elbow. That's the thing. He comes back next year at actually a hundred percent. Yeah. Because he hasn't been at, at a hundred percent these past, this past year in a hole. I would say that he was a, he was a hundred percent to start the game today and he played really well in the first half. Yeah. He looked great. He looked like his old self. And it was, it was so much fun to watch. And but that's the only way given that how bad this defense is. That's the only way that we're going to be able to win any games. Mario does good backup quarterback. But we're not going to win any games because of him. We might be able to beat maybe the Titans with, with Mario, but yeah. If this team was going to win games with that defense, it was going to be because Jane Daniels was out there being special. And I don't think that that's going to happen. And so yeah. I think what needs to happen with the guys, somebody needs to sit down and be like, you have to get the surgery as much for you as for everybody that's at home watching these games because I don't want to watch Jayden's elbow dislocate ten times on a Sunday every time that he plays. That seems like a pretty miserable experience for him too. I got a question. Yeah. Uh, a rowback question. R H O B S K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Cusips, polos, hoodies, jagged shorts, rowback dot com promo code take. What, what was that? I also have a rowback. Oh, no. I just, you just popped that in. Oh no. What? Why? This is messed up. I had no ways. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. This isn't me, honestly. PFT Max. I had Jerry back me up. I had nothing to do with this. This is messed up. Who said you? I don't know who texted you. Jerry texted us five times that we didn't answer him until until we got in. Who texted it? Share your discuss. Who he text me maximum. I'll tell you who. I'll tell you who texted them. Mr. Bingbong texted them. That's disgusting. Jerry. Hey, guys, it's only fair. You always text me and say you're that Mr. Bingbong needs to talk to Hank. Mr. Bingbong needs to talk to Max the man to Andrews. Oh, Jerry, Jerry, you're responsible. You're, you're, you're just as much as fault as anybody. Jerry, was that, was that your dog in the background? Did you go full day without losing your dogs? Lost my dogs. What big cat is talking about is my dog's, one of them got out and the cops. Yeah. The cops brought him back. Come here. Come on. Be quiet or else I have to put you away. Seriously, because daddy's working. He lost one of his dogs yesterday. Would you have an electric shock collar on that thing? No, I, I don't do that. I got one. Jerry's trying to shock his dogs right now. Yeah. No, that's not true. That's not true. No, but Mr. Bingbong just wanted to talk to you guys. Hey fellas, how was, how was your Sunday? Would you get up to this Sunday? Boys, how was it? Mr. Bingbong? What's it? No, it wasn't great, Jerry. It was bad. Jerry's bad. Sunday, Jerry. It was a bad Sunday. Yeah. Well, you know, Mr. Bingbong just had a couple of questions and some statements that he may be wanting to say it a big cat and PFT. If, if, if that's okay. I mean, Mr. Bingbong's always around for, for Max and Maxi and especially Hank and, Hanki. I just don't think injuries are, are something to laugh about. I also thought Mr. Bingbong was the basketball guy. Yeah. Well, he's, uh, Mr. Bingbong is everywhere. Okay. I mean, a couple questions. You know, it's funny. I, I was watching my one quarter of football today. I was sat down and I got my one quarter and I'm flipping around and I flip over to, um, to PFT's game and I see, uh, Marcus Marriota through the football, Marcus Marriota. And then I flip over to a big cat's game and I see that, uh, big Jetta, big Jetta. It's, uh, so much football. It's not, no, it's not, it's not been kept PFT. Hey, what, what do we call, is it big Jetta? What, how do we pronounce it there? It's amazing. It's, it's, it's, it's, you're timeline doesn't make it. He says, kill, kill wounds, got to hurt like three hours before Jetta. Yes. Well, I'm just saying it like, uh, Tariqo, you know, Tariqo. Yeah. I love that. I said, he's good. He's a professional. Hey, PFT, PFT, uh, Mr. Bingbong here. It's, it's really sad. It's really sad about you. Uh, no, it's no, I wrote, I wrote some notes. I have to, uh, it's really, I had so much fun doing it. I had so much fun doing it. Hey, uh, he, it's so sad about, uh, your quarterback. And it's crazy, too. I mean, you know, look at that elbow injury. I would have thought his elbow was a lot stronger carrying his mother around on his back. Oh, so off season, Bingbong, he carries his elbow back. We, we've been using his elbow. Oh, yeah. That's too bad. And also, hey, big Ketta, it's a sad, uh, it's so sad about, uh, Caleb, you know, it's sad. He's gonna have a lot of time on his hands, you know, maybe not Jerry. Oh, you're, you're dogs on the, your dogs on the table, Jerry. Maybe, uh, maybe, uh, maybe I'll get him a lot of time to paint his thingies in his tootsies. He likes to paint his fingernails. It's a little weird. I'm just saying it's what little girls do. Paint his tootsies. Hey, you know, uh, hey, fellas, you know, uh, Caleb and Jaden, they were going to have rehab. You know, it's going to be a lot of work. Unlike, uh, the work you all didn't do when you wrote your book, everybody else wants your book. It didn't work for it. Even the audio book, you didn't read nothing. It's the big bang, dude. That's true. It's for free. It's for free on, um, Spotify premium. But please buy it. Um, hey, but you know what, Big Cat, um, Caleb will be back. You know, Caleb will be back before you know it. Caleb will definitely be back by opening day and in the end, I think that's pretty good. That was pretty good. Yeah. You know, it's crazy. I was watching it when I was flipping through and I saw Caleb just hit the deck. He just hit the deck. He hit the deck harder than, uh, Zach does for one of his five prayers every day because he's full on his long. Zach is full on Islam. I sure I'm a lick from Jack. We see you keep attempts on you. Hey, um, hey, by the way, Max, I got to say, uh, you, you were almost in trouble too, Max. Jalen hurts saved you bacon today right at the last minute there. That was something he saved you bacon. Hey, speaking of bacon, Zach can't have it anymore because he's full is love. You don't need to swine. Don't think I'm not swine. Bing bong. I shall I'm a lake. Um, hey, um, the bass and the, the boxes are great. The bass and the command is, it was crazy today. Just watching both those teams, your teams, they just got the rug pulled out from right under them, just like the rug that's because the prey on the tons of day, but he's the one. Sleepy Zach sleep a cell. Oh, Bing bong. Uh, those are good. Those are money. Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach, I gotta say, Zach, Zach, you also, you know, you also had a rough day too. The box, lost to the browns. That was crazy. I took the points. So I was okay. But yeah, that was a crazy loss to you. Also, uh, Zach, the straighter, hold on. Still isn't open, Bing. Open it up, Zach. Open the straight. There's no way he knows what that is. Do you know what that is? A lot of little going through there. Okay, you got it. My bad tree will open. Where did you get a J Daniel's jersey? Why are you? Yeah, that was from last year. Remember when he drafts a cheating. Yeah, and he cursed. It's been bad since then. That's true. Everything, everything, Jerry. Now, know that I was about to say there hasn't been a single good game. There's basically been no, no good game since you, you went on this podcast and you said he's going to break all records. All records. Jerry, how the jets do you? Uh, jets sort of shit the bed, but guys, we're used to that. We have no hope. You have hope from the last couple of years. We have no hope. So it doesn't matter. Memes tell them. We don't even care. Oh, no, Memes, we lost that. No, Memes cared. He said he was disappointed. We should have worn. He said he wasn't even mad. He was disappointed. We should have won. But yeah, guys, uh, guys, uh, um, this is Mr. Bingbong. Mr. Bingbong's here again. Thanks. Uh, uh, big, big catta big catta. Uh, the Vikings had in credible started with Mary. Big catta. Yeah. Um, uh, the Vikings had incredible coverage on the base today. You, you got to myth. That was good coverage. They did. And on the base side, uh, Devon Caini had incredible coverage. Look around. Yeah. And that's you blew it. The city filled up your blue it. We got Devon Bingbong. Say hello. Look her up. Hey, guys, that was great. That was great. Hey, guys, uh, Shane Shane also had a tough day. Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy. Shane. That was crazy. Shane always too. I don't even know what's going on. It was crazy. And Herbert, Herbert dropped like six. Bulls, which is still not as many as the ball money blew it, but it blew it. You blew it. He dropped a lot of balls. Just had to get one in. Yeah, had to get one in. Never let you forget. Hey, Hank, uh, this is Jerry here. No one, Mr. Bingbong. How about fucking treaty on today? Yes, huge. I texted you, right? We win, Jerry. We fucking won, guys. We're on to no two. No, but Jerry. Come on. Sorry. Sorry. We are to know. We are to know. Yeah. Why did you say it that way? Because I'm just I really thought we were going to be on to guys. We are not. We are exceeding. We are exceeding our projected outcomes. I don't even know how we're winning. Tonight we won with Kelsey and CD Lam. We did not win. We have, we have Lamar, who sort of shit the bed today. I don't even know how we're winning this. And we got to talk about scary Terry and what we're going to do with that. Because while AJ Brown sits in our IR, we're in big trouble. Hold on a second. I got a couple more of these. Hey, Shane, um, oh no, I already did that joke. Hey, PFT and PFT and big cut, you know, maybe you guys need to be doing some shopping around, you know, maybe you guys should be looking at, I don't know, Zach Wilson or JJ, JJ, maybe nine. You know, what I'm talking about nine is up there. Because we all know that Zach wants you to get calling. That's, we know why you want him. Yeah. That's it guys. That was great. We love you. Now you're going to have those, you have to stay on. We're the worst Wi-Fi of all time. The worst Wi-Fi. Jerry, we love you. Before we stop recording, we love you. Jerry, great to see you and then stay on. Yeah. And look after those dogs. I think one of them got out. Sorry about this Sunday, guys. Hey, guys, if we can be two and no one fantasy, you guys can come back from, from this. Yeah, I'm telling you. That's where I am. Early in the season, I love week two is his little brother. We two each shit. Yeah, we two each shit. He should. They should. Yeah. I love you, Jerry. You got a bright future in this league. Love you guys. Love you, Jerry. That was nice. That was nice. That was very nice. Jerry, Jerry, put the smile on my face. I appreciate him. I thought he was coming just to roast you because he had the gym Daniels. Yeah, I, I gotta say one last thing. Floreo is on the hot seat for me because he did part of the reason why my mood. Change is he went on some foot, football night in Americans said they cable. He only has a grade one strain. He's like, he thinks it's a grade one strain. So that's a lot of my mood is based on Floreo. So Flore is on my fucking hot seat. PFT. Yeah. I'm sorry. That sucked. Yeah, it sucked. It's bad. I reminded of the Washington DC sports triangle that I came up with about like seven years ago for anything nice that we have in the nation's capital, and it's a superstar. And it's a triangle. And you can only pick two of the sides. And the sides are generational talent. Healthy and doesn't support a Russian dictator. And so you can take any two of those, but you can't take all three can't take all three. And so this is just falling in line, RG4. So Jane Daniels supports a lot of your poop. No, I'm saying you can only pick two. Right. Yeah. So it's not healthy. He doesn't support Vladimir Putin. That's one of the legs. Oh, got it. Yeah. He's a generational talent. And he, he, as far as I know, he's not in favor of Vladimir Putin and the war in Ukraine. Right. I could be wrong. I have a question for you. PFT. Yes. Uh, did you see some of the mean things that Hank was tweeting? Uh, no. No, I don't follow Hank. Hank. I didn't tweet anything mean. Okay. Uh, Hank, you immediately started talking about Jane Daniels. Uh, it offensive line saying, is this AI making sure you signal boosted this? Well, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. That's a fake clip. That's a fake clip. PFT. Last week introduced me to this world of like editing videos of NFL tape. What are you talking about? Of NF introduced me of this world of someone online, yeah, editing videos of NFL footage and making it look really real. In this case, it was, it was the Patriots. It looked like it was their full defense. In fact, it was 10 players. This one, the video is all of the commander's offensive line, basically sprinting away from Jane Daniels, screaming, crying, throwing up, and like couldn't give a care in the entire world that he is down and out. And I just asked the question, is this AI? Because again, like, I did not catch the Glen tape watch. I did not notice that. So I, my, my brain is not trained as well the AI. So I was trying to ask my followers to confirm that this was AI. And I, I want to say, I haven't confirmed it yet. Okay. Anyways. So is it what I was saying about Glen tape watch? What is this AI? Is the video of the commander's offensive line running away from Jane Daniels on the ground fake? If you watch the game, which I don't know if you did, you were looking at your phone a lot. So I don't know if you were actually watching the game when it happened. But when Jane got hurt, then everybody at that time, Jaden stood up for a second with his team. Then he went back and sat down as his teammates. We're all going to the locker room because it's half time. And then at that point, the trainers come out. Got it. If there's because if there's one thing about the team, like, everybody on the team, Mario, it looks like he's like he's, he's, Mario to sit there with everybody on the team likes Jaden. I don't think that there's any problem at all with the offensive line. Not liking them. They were walking off the field together and then Jaden sat down because he was hurt. Did they rest the team proceeded to go to the locker room for app time. But not Mario. I think it's pretty normal stuff. Why did Mario kind of sad that you're why did Mario to concern about this? I just was curious because Mario is probably like it to I have. I'm just trying to get better at spotting AI. That's literally I was not it was not mean in any way. It seems like Mr. Solve seems like you were kind of happy. Yeah. Listen, Hank. Look at this. We like to have this. This is mean. I would never root. How is this mean? I would never root for an injury. I mean look at my reaction to the injury. I was disgusted. Then you said people want one early part of my take drop. You seem like you're happy. You're happy. Read my tweet and tell me how that's mean. - Hank, which phrase? - Read my tweet. Read it. - You know what? - Read it. - No, not that one. Read the part of my take one. 'Cause again, like this is where it's like you guys are gaslighting, trolling, putting words in my mouth saying that I mean, when I am literally on the guy's side. I think there's a part of Hank that likes it. - That means that I think you were rooting for early release. - Would be the joke there. - No, I was going through my mentions and I had so many people being like, oh my God, can't wait for tomorrow's PMT. Tomorrow's PMT is going to be amazing. Hank, please push the button. Hank, please sell the next push the button. And I was merely tweeting on your guy's side that you guys, the people that are asking for that are sick individuals. And somehow that gets twisted into me being me. - Well, yeah, like do you not understand how you guys are just gaslighting? - No, no, no, hold on, the AI video was-- - Is this AI? I got fooled by AI on Friday. - No, that wasn't AI. - That wasn't AI. - I don't know what it was. - That was not AI. - I don't know what this was. - Kriegs is not AI. - Yeah, he's just a guy. - He is AI. - He's a guy. - No, he is. - No, he is. - That was Gibby. - He's, he's-- - That's why you make Gibby too. - Robot. - But yeah, I didn't see this clip until Hank tweets-- - It's kind of sad that like I try to do something funny for the show, make a new little bit, new little character that breaks down film. And then that triggers Hank so much that he has to then retaliate by celebrating injuries. - Where, show me a celebration, please. - Kind of sad. - Please. - Oh, that first reply is actually funny. - What is it say? - They're still running away from Jade. - Oh, that was funny. - It's good that-- - It's actually he's still running. He's still running, guy. - PSD must edit out the teammates willing to stay by him. - Yeah, it's good bit. - It's good, it sucks. - It's probably-- - It sucks beyond belief. - And I do, I'm not enjoying it. Hank, you were not allowed to talk to me. - Oh, you can't talk. - You can't talk. - You can't talk. - Don't pout, you could talk. - Before the game started. - He's pounding, so cute. - Hank's up pounding. - Whatever. - I'll never have your back again, I guess. Like sorry. - We're not having his back. - Telling people that. - That is not having it, that's a troll. - You're right. - Which I, we troll. - I, we are trolls too. We know what a troll is. Saying quote treating it, that's like quote treating and saying, "Everyone please delete this." - No. - Yeah. - No, this is a question. This is a question. - Don't, I thought that there was 11 people in a video on Friday and I was confused and I'm like fuck. All I thought about this whole weekend is like, I can't believe Glentay Ponce got me. I gotta be better. How can I be better? - Yeah. - Reliant my followers. - You're being very honest. - Let's do this together. - Yes. - Is this AI? - Yeah. - Honestly, you haven't given me a good answer. - What did you find out? - That looks real as fuck still. - Yes, it's very real. - That happened in the game. But is your point behind this whole charade that you're pulling right now to say that, to a certain extent, the offensive line was happy that Jaden got hurt? - No. It would be more that they don't care. - I think they, that. - About him being. - I think they extremely care because all their contracts are very much tied into Jaden being healthy. I think it's probably fair to say. Like everybody on this. - So they don't care about him as a person. - No, they do. - They care about financial. - No, I think they do. I think it's both. Why not both? - Yeah, so all right. I'll update tomorrow in the podcast about Talk to PFT. This is real. - This is real. - This is real. - This is real. - I, here's the thing is, on Saturday, maybe it was Friday, the Cowboys put out their posts like promoting this game on Twitter. And the picture that they used to promote the game was Jaden being hurt from last year. - It's fucked up. - That is fucked up. - I'm putting a curse on the Cowboys. - Oh. - I'm putting a curse. I haven't figured out how yet. - They're not going to go to NFC Championship game for like 30 years. - Maybe. I don't know if I can find a curse person that's that good. But I'm going to do some research, find out the best people to go to. I'm going to put the whammy on the Cowboys. - Okay. - And listen, I hope that, I hope Jerry Jones lives a long, healthy life. End of sentence. - Okay. - I'm going to find a curse. - The Cowboys look good. - They're off and so good. - What? - Be real shame. - That was, that was a strong giggle from Hank. - If he's a fucking hilarious guy. - What? - Jerry Jones's bad at his job. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - So it's good. I liked it, Jerry. - You want him saying a lot. - Correct. - I like it too. - So he has no succession plan. - Also wouldn't the curse be the. - It's going to be against the Cowboys. - Yeah, I actually don't, I want Jerry around. - Yeah, wouldn't the curse be Jerry Jones lives for another 20 years, but the Cowboys never get back? - Exactly. - That's way worse. - That's what I'm saying. - Yeah, I'm going to find, I don't know if it's a witch doctor, I don't know if it's a psychic. I'm going to do some deep research into the most effective types of curses. And I'm going to put a curse on the Dallas Cowboys. And as long as that curse is an effect, they will not win a Super Bowl. They won't smell a Super Bowl. And they'll be doomed to be just as miserable as I am. And that's how you get back at people. If somebody wrongs you guys, you do the exact same thing, except twice as hard to them. So I'm just. Hank. You two guys you're talking to right now, and you do a quote to eat, is this AI? And be like, I was literally asking. - You're happy. - Why can't you just admit that? - We're trolls, Hank. We're born of the same troll blood. - Look at trolling looks like. - We all watch that game together. - You can watch the video of me watching the play. You can watch the video of me watching the replay. - Actually, I would like to add no point. - Did I smile? I don't know. - Can we find this laughing? Like, I was horrified. - Max, can you find it? - I like a rivalry. If Jane Daniels never plays football again, which it seems like he's not going to, there's no rivalry. Like, I want him to play. He can't stay on the field. - Come on. - I know he can't stay on the field. - And that sucks. - You know, I say the thing is you don't truly believe that. - I do, I want Jane Daniels to play. - Come on, Hank. - I need to find this. I want to see Hank's reaction. And Hank, listen, we are all trolls here. I get it. It does seem like your room for injuries, and I would never do that to you. - I'm not rooting for injuries at all. - This is going to be extremely. - Yeah, he did actually react saying he doesn't want to see it. We were going long anyway, but he did, I do not think he was smiling. I don't, but the AI thing, that was very, very interesting. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, come on, Hank. Come on, we're not stupid. You're gaslighting us. At this point. - That video was so unbelievable. I literally was like, it's supposed to be AI. Again, it's like 2026, so the AI's crazy these days. Look, big heads laughing really hard. That's what I was dying for. - That was the first half when he wasn't injured. Idiot. - I'm just watching what they pulled up. - So my big takeaway from this game is, yeah. Stop watching. - Jayden's probably never gonna play football again. The commanders will never be good and it's wizard season. - There you go. - Yeah, wizards. - We're onto the wizards. But now, I kind of feel a little bit liberated because at this point, I don't have any expectations for football season this year. So I can rededicate myself to being what I love to do and what I do best. And that's just being a full-time troll. So. - This is after the injury, but yeah, this is when they're showing the replays. - Too many replays. - I'm blocking Hank. Look fat. - Oh yeah, no, Hank's not, he's reacting. Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Zoom in on his face real quick. - Zoom in on his face, just real quick. - Oh, max. - Stroking his nose. - Hank, why do we-- - There's a little bit of a-- - There's a little smile. - There's a little bit of a grin back there. - There's a little grin. - This is insane. - Okay, let's move on. - Let's move on. - Screaming. - Cowboys look awesome. - Cowboys look pretty-- - Here's the thing about the Cowboys. Georgie. - Yeah. - He only has one more yard receiving this year than DK Metcalf. - Yeah, so well, he had a bad first game. - Quietly, Georgie's not off to a great start right now and I mean, he's an exceptionally talented guy. I just think that if it goes on, given the fact that it's a contract year thing, they have to find a way to get him involved because if they don't, they could lose him. - Yeah. - All right, that looks like you're screaming horror there, Hank. - Sorry. - You can't exist. - No, I thought you were re-acting fine. Is this the highest control and I understand it? - Somehow, Hank is the victim. - Yeah. - It's quarterback super healthy, almost too healthy. - Whoa. - Like really healthy. - Now he's coming at you. - I'm just saying like a dangerous spot here. - I don't know what it is, but like, Hank, you won today. The Patriots back in the good graces of the football gods. - Won the hungry dog. - Won the hungry dog pretty much almost. And your quarterback is super healthy, like really healthy. - We should pull up that clip too. - What? - If we're just pulling up gambling cave clips. - What? - Hank being hungry dog. - Yeah. I think I can tell this now I had big plans for jaden to this year I'm it's not I'm not going to get any use out of it probably ever. Oh What I went out I bought a one of those giant like 15 foot tall wacky inflatable wacky air guys Like the card dealership guys card dealership guys, and it's a jaden Daniel's wacky inflatable Like it says face what we gonna do with it. I was gonna inflate it like There's our big plan. I was gonna inflate it like underneath max How or put it outside the door like we did with positivity bunny That so that's a hundred bucks. I got to just when are you gonna hundred bucks when do you do that? Huh when are you gonna do that? My big plans for we put it up and I was thinking on to it Yeah, for the next time we played against it would be nice to just put it up. Yeah, just do it I do a hundred bucks. That's a great deal. I also got you a jail in Hertz one. It's on the way Oh, that's that's great. Yeah, do they have a cable? They did not the only the only two that I saw were just jail in Hertz and sick That was big can't be true those were the only two I saw I didn't look that hard, but those were the two It just happened to be Yes, kind of fun. Yeah, so you know the best laid plans of mice and men as they say Last game the Colts and chiefs Chiefs we talked about it kind of there for a second the chiefs win in over time. I Will say I don't really understand what the Colts were doing there and over time in the fact that they Got they got like super aggressive with that deep shot and then they slowed it down and they got stuck in like the middle ground of What are we doing here? It's almost like LSU last night on Saturday night where it's like Either score touchdown or use all the clock and then kick a field goal. Yeah, I do one or the other instead they Rushed to get down the field then went slow And didn't score touchdown kick the field goal then the chiefs had enough time to kick a field goal in the game Yeah, so if you've watched any football since Patrick my home has been in the league You know what's going to happen. Don't give me anytime if you don't score a touchdown there Yeah, and over time if you think of field goal, you're going to lose that game if you can feel that there has to be no time left Yes, so you have to anyone that's watch football. Yes knows that that's how that game ends So I was not surprised whatsoever and my homes. I mean I credit to the Colts. They did look a lot more Qualified than they did in week one. So maybe the season's not fully over. That's a tough start to season to play the Ravens of the Chiefs my homes week one Everyone's like hey, he passed the test of his knee. Look good the passing is rusty Now the passing's back the deep ball was there the how the passing's back like he took for three hundred eighty two yards tonight and he was They were taking shots all over the place Travis Kelsey looked like he was young again. It's just Travis can see a hundred one yards nine catches like She's her problem man. There's a problem Taylor up in the box. Yeah, so I'm pointing to the ring finger She's are like fully back. Would you agree? Hey? She's a fully back. Oh, yeah, like that's not even a They're just back to being the chiefs. It's not it. They're just gonna. It's probably gonna be The AFC championship get in Kansas City. Yeah, teachers chiefs stacked bills stacked I'm looking at their schedule right now chiefs gonna start five and oh They play the dolphins the Raiders and the Chargers. They're just our five and oh Raiders might be good Raiders could be good They're still gonna start five and tough break for the Colts Alec Pierce getting hurt. Yeah, I don't know what it is But it doesn't it didn't look good at all. No, it was not contact. It was the the foot that was hurt from before so I hope he's okay Because that offense just doesn't without him in the game. It doesn't work. Nothing works without him I mean Jonathan Taylor is runs hard. You know Jones. He had some nice plays I the coach showed some life. They showed some life So the season might not be fully over for the Colts But the big takeaway is the chiefs are just all the way all the way back So the Colts big game next week against the Texans at home loser leaves town loser leaves town for that game. Yeah, and they are gonna have a win against the commanders That's gonna be overseas great good You might win that game. Yeah, where things happen overseas? You know what I actually think Mariotta good backup quarterback start the kid from Rutgers Eighth could click could lick me on us. Yeah, come lick my ass. Mm-hmm start that guy. 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We're watching football perfect for the bar Get twisted with twisted T grab a refreshing twisted T today and keep it twisted Hank finishes off who's back of the week. Oh nascar fights. Yeah really good Ryan Blaney What's yeah Carson Hoke Hoke Hoke of R. Yep. Yeah. Yeah Kind of soft punches Like they looked like they didn't stick too hard But it was just a classic they they got in a wreck and then they met in the met in the infield and just duked it out a little bit Yeah, nascar whenever they get into actual fights with each other. They didn't really throw any punches back Yeah, they kind of remind me of like you ever see those bicyclists that fight against each other And they do like spent try to do spending backfists and it's just like The softest fight ever. Mm-hmm. I believe that if these nascar drivers got into a fight in a bar It would look like a fight with like punches and some violence But for some reason when they're in there like one Z I never really see I it's never really threatening one of these is a good punch. Yeah, like if we saw this punch in a NBA game like it would be a big deal Or like an or like a benches clearing brawl. Mm-hmm. Like you don't see this and no they go for it They always let them punch like a couple times and then they look at that. That is that's like a serious punch. That was good Good good. Who's back Hank? Yeah, and the water dogs. Yeah, and the water dogs who's fuck yeah. Yeah, so back We're so behind the banner We actually should yeah, no wait. Yes Like a banner for ourselves. Yeah, 100% like owners of the year. Yeah Okay, uh pft. Yeah, I mean, I was gonna say talk about the water dogs And then whose back is just just the rg4 talk A lot of that why would have a lot of rg4 talk out there I can't I never I never thought Hank would be a root for injuries guy. I'm not it's sad to see I don't know. I'll say this about Hank. I do not think he's a root for injuries guy I think he's a make a joke after an injury guy wish that's not true either. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I didn't say anything about killlooms Or Jane Daniels none of this happened I didn't say anything about the injury. Okay. I did to ask a question about the The nation. Yeah, yeah, not caring about the injury I think they did care. Um also whose back is just it being the 21st of September. Yeah, great song Have birthday Danny Conrad. I'm gonna listen to that tomorrow morning and it's gonna put a smile on my face because it's a great song Everything's gonna be okay. Yeah, we'll be okay. What is the actual weeks that they're gonna say Like what what do you what if he doesn't get surgery? He's the out four weeks four weeks. All right So that's not that'll come back and it'll pop out again, but four weeks isn't terrible. You know what I'm hoping for I moved on I've moved on this season to just we're entering we're shifting into full-time troll mode Okay, uh what I have one question for for you PST. Yes max I don't know this that these are reports that that were told to me. Yeah, so this is serious question Yes, you are. No, that's part time. Oh shit Yeah, he's going full-time full-time Maybe if you had just like you went full-time troll mode last year and then you never got out of it Even when Jay Daniels was healthy and that's where I think you messed up. Oh What do you mean fair point? Jay Daniels got hurt last year. Yeah, obviously and You then entered full-time troll mode you spent all your time to thinking and talk about trick may I actually don't never went away Even though Jay Daniels was healthy that healthy this year and that's might have like your priorities were in the wrong place What do you mean full-time thinking about trick may I you made a whole video You talk about Glenn. Yeah, I'm like Glenn. Yeah, sorry for sorry for making a funny video that people could laugh at it It was really funny. I'm saying like if that attention had been more spent on like your change in your court You think you think I should have done like a hype video for Jayden. You used to do that. How good this guy. Didn't you used to do that? No, not really What you did his handoffs. Yeah, which we're also and every week which we're also a joke video but every week in the playoffs Yeah, I made two hype videos That's different. That's the playoffs. Yeah. I gotta say you didn't do that. Just about That I didn't leave troll mode. No, I left I left troll mode I've that listen. It's I'm having a tough day today, but you'll see I can be way more trolly You give the T-bo speech about being a troll. No, I can I can step it up. Be careful what you wish for Hank Like if you want I will make it my full-time job to troll you you okay? Yeah, sure I can't wait to see what that looks like. Okay, okay, can I ask this question now? Yeah, sense of purpose Again, I these are reports that were given to me. I just have one question. This is serious Who's walking around where Max reports? Where did you watch the first half of the cult's chiefs game? Oh, yeah, that was He was down bad. Oh, I was in the bathroom. Yeah for the entire hat. Yeah, yeah Are you are you okay? I had a bad stomach. Yes But you but was that like I couldn't tell if that was like a stomach thing or is like I need to be by myself No, watch this game. No, I was literally. Yeah, it was a that was actual stomach. It was a stomach thing. Yeah, okay I also also on poop guy Yeah, no, I wasn't trying to clean. He wasn't but that was like an hour. Yeah, no, it was bad like Probably more I think maybe even more than an hour. It was the entire it was until we started recording From before the Sunday night football. Yeah, it was it was I put this way. I haven't I haven't pooped in like two and a half days Problems on it. Oh, okay. All right. Good. Finally. All right. So that was a good that was a good thing that you were in there for that Well, no, it wasn't I didn't enjoy it, but you needed to but you needed it. Okay. Good good I it had nothing listen. I I've been through pain and disappointment enough as a football fan I don't need to lock myself into a bathroom to get over loss Okay, but that's that's strictly just stomach issue, but you understand the optics of that. Yeah, okay In fact, like I heard people coming in and I was like, well, they're gonna have some questions It's probably about 45 minutes. Yeah All right, my who's back Baseball playoffs getting close for seven days away. I saw stat two. This is a really sad one The Pittsburgh pirates would be in the playoffs If they played the L. Yeah, it is a race in that a L spot the white socks should get it White socks do get it. They should get it But I guess it would be a half game out if they were in the L But yeah, we're getting the the little clinch spot Max and I are in a fight right now The Padres Cubs and Phillies all one game apart Fighting for home field fighting for home field hard I guess technically also still fighting for the playoffs just because the Diamondbacks still remain there lurking But yeah, where I Was a lot more excited for Playoff baseball until Alex Breggman got his face smashed in which is really really bad So he definitely can't play I mean ice he can't see his eyes completely I don't know maybe if it wasn't broken Then it's just like a black eye and he'll be okay, I think I'll be back. You think so. I think so all right all right good So I get positive okay, I just saw that and I was like oh my god He's not it looks bad right now, but because he's so so important to the Cubs Just having any type of chance at anything But yeah, I'm excited for playoff baseball if Breggman can play and I really really want to play that really because Cubs can win it rigly can't win anywhere else. So if the playoffs started right now the Cubs would have the home Podries, okay, we have the tie the Cubs have the tie breaker against the Padres and the Phillies So as long as they can just stay at the same record as those two teams they will get the home playoff Game I don't know who has the who has your I have we have it over the podries you have it over the podries Right now the the the Cubs and the Padres are tied and the Phillies are one game back of both Of them so literally anything I mean we have the same amount of games left to play six games Oh And who do you play we cut off? We have we go brewers raise I think the raise won't be playing for anything in that yeah, we go they play the Yankees We go Marlins Now they won't be playing for anything we go Marlins Red Sox, I think the Red Sox are completely locked in are they not? Yeah, they clenched yeah, but they're like they can't get to the home playoff. I don't think and I don't know If they can go all the way down to the bottom. I guess they're five and a half games back their four games up on the White Sox they would have to lose All three of their games Leading up to the weekend and the White Sox would have to win all three for the For the Red Sox to want to play for anything. So they'll just get their rotation set All right, well be fun. Love the Chicago World Series to be awesome. Well the White Sox if the White Sox have given up the central right now I know they're they're they're crumbling. They're so young. I feel like Seeing that slip away. That might be tough to bounce back from that The cubs are not going to the World Series. I'll say that their pitching is their bullpen is so bad But I just chip in a chair. You know what? Fuck that the cubs could go to the World Series chip in a chair Chip in a chair see what happens baseball playoffs is weird. Just get hot at the right time. That's all you got to do Yep, you should get hot at the right time. You never know what can happen That's the fact that is the the playoffs are baseball playoffs are like you get a couple Couple relievers that are just pitching out of their mind. Yeah, you never fucking know bats get hot diamond backs remember them Yeah, yeah, all right cubs can go to the World Series Can the Phillies go to the World Series? Okay, I hate the Phillies I'm gonna watch them. I'm gonna like them. Actually, I'm not gonna promise. I'm gonna like You're not gonna go that far So frustrating. They're so show they're playing like you say get hot at the right time. They're getting they're getting Bad at the wrong ugly. I mean that's the cubs bullpen. It's our bullpen sucks to we got no one Orion Kirkering the guy who blew it last year We just sent him down who gets sent down on On September 19th He was like our setup guy last year. He's been a disaster since July he has like a 10 ERA They literally just sent him down a week before the playoffs. Yeah, but that's I mean Jacob Webb. They They won't send him down and they He probably yeah, I guess that's better. Yeah, but like we Going into the year we were counting like we got nobody. Yeah, all right. Yeah, Zach finished soft Whatever my his back of the week this week's gonna be a USC 331 because you guys see the fighter Alonzo menifield what he was able to fight through Yeah, discuss the first round compound fracture, but fought through the winter distance bone out of his thumb Completely out only almost look like a molar like a big - yeah, yeah, whole thumb. Yeah, isn't that like Very very dangerous for infection. I believe yeah, I mean open bone has to be yeah, right? And then he said no, I'll just finish the fight and then win my decision Real man shit. Uh Steven's thing got knocked out one of the fastest in 20 seconds. Yeah, that's what I was saying like you have seen For a casual like myself it feels like they don't have Any massive massive superstars for the future like young superstars You think that's what leads like a lot of these just like quick just Knockouts like hey, we're not met. We're not evenly matched one of these guys just gonna starch somebody Well Gable Stevenson is just he's failed like it everything recently. Yeah, tough. He tried to go the NFL tried to do WWE Went back to college and lost And then he just got knocked out and then did he he no show the ending right like the In the middle when they put their hands up. Yep, that was a loser move class on that loser move by him All right, good show boys We're gonna get some good news tomorrow pft Yeah, I I'm telling you floreo if if this comes back like a grade two or three in floreo Did you guys see floreo's report on Sonnet football? I did not. Yeah, he's like I'm hearing it's a grade one So that's like it completely changed my whole move Oh All right, good show boys Numbers eat five three Is not a troll with the 18 good. He's not a troll. That's nice. That's touching You're a funny guy. There's also this guy in UFC. He's just a rough and rowdy fighter. I'm gonna take Take 90 look Shane to the off the poncho to vivasa Shane's no longer bolted nah 86 69 Didn't eat a lot today 15 actually tip 15 T-bow Congrats on now the gators Jacob. Oh, it's good. Thank you. We're real Real phony. Oh, oh no Georgia all-time Fuck you Oh 26 what is your guys? Oh, he's sick. Yeah, it's hot You guys see the Georgia move They were running full defensive line drills during a time out and then Kirby said after it's he was like because we are guys weren't getting enough work yeah Arkansas that's such a disrespectful movement. 32. 32. 32. Happy birthday to Danny Boycane. Oh yeah. Happy birthday to George R.R. Martin. Happy birthday to John Tavaris. Happy birthday to Doug Baldwin, Dwayne Boe, Greg Jennings, John Kittna, Jason Derulo, Bill Murray, Hassan Redick. Another bad guy. Hassan Redick. Bad guy retract the birthday wish. Happy birthday to our good friend and RIP Tommy LaSorta and Danny Conrad and Danny Conrad. Edgy Missile. I think that was the 20th wasn't it? Conrad? No. 21st. 21st? Okay. Love you guys. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music]