NFL Draft Recap & Blake Griffin on NBA Playoffs, Retirement, Kobe Stories, Lob City & More | Ep 189

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Three times cleaner compared to mobile regular gas and port fuel injected engines. Actual results may vary. Visit mobilefuels.com for details. Like, I told you that I'm trying to dunk for the first time in my life, right? Oh, yeah, that's right. How's it going? Well, I tore my quad. Oh, so not good. I was doing quarter squats of that and then jumping up on the box. And it was working. My initial height of running and jumping was like 10.6. Like, it was an embarrassing start. I was up over 10.10. That's plank. Can you palm the ball? No. See, I got little. Ah, you got those little baby balls. How did you learn to jump? How did you learn to jump so high? What are the techniques that you implemented to jump over human beings? I got to be honest, man. Having a black dad helps. I got to say, the quarter squat box jump combo wasn't really in my. You didn't have to resort to that. I've been doing this thing called the penultimate step. Have you ever heard of the penultimate step? All right, I'm going to stop talking. I'm just going to do your intro. All right, here we go. Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen. Boys and girls. Oh, Jason's fired up. You should be, too, because this is a wonder show brought to you by Xfinity. We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the University of Cincinnati. Shout out to the Tigers back in the Heights. Subscribe on YouTube, wherever you get your podcasts, and follow the show on all social media, at New Heights Show with one S. Jason, please tell everybody what we got coming up today. 90% of this week, y'all did amazing. We got an amazing episode geared up for you guys today. We are going to talk a little bit about the draft from this past week, obviously covering heavily Chiefs and Eagles picks. We're also going to get into a little out of the house at NASCAR. Don't know if you saw that. Hence the Talladega. Oh, and as well, we have Blake Griffin joining us. That's right. The NBA playoffs are underway, so we decided we'd get the funniest, most talented basketball analyst out there. Well, outside of Charles Barkley. Sorry. Sorry, Blake. Dude, he's the fucking best. I can't wait to dive in with Blake, man. He's one of my favorites. One of my fucking favorite people on earth, man. He is the best. We're going to talk NBA playoffs, his incredible dunking abilities, as well as somebody else trying to dunk, and more. So, before we get to that, let's get to some of that new news. New news coming in. New news is brought to you by American Express. We won a Webby Award. How about that? Oh. The very prestigious Webby. Nice, man. Jason and Travis Kelsey won the People's Voice Award. For Sports Shows Podcast. Thank you to all the 90%ers. Kylie also won an award. Kylie won an award. NGL, The Real Ones, voted her podcast. Wait. Do they vote on that? Mike, I got to light down. Light down, Mike. So, this is voted on? You got a lighting guy. Or is this just given? Well, Mike does a lot more than lighting, but yeah, for right now, he is a lighting guy. What is this? The hotel table lamp? That's 100%. Yeah. I'm on LA, baby. I'm trying to sling our garage. Here, leave me alone. All right. Anyways, New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelsey won the People's Voice Award for Sports Shows Parentheses Podcast. Very prestigious award. Kylie also won an award with NGL. They won Podcast of the Year. Woo! Which I believe is a bigger award than we received. It's probably the biggest award that they have there. Very cool. Very cool. Shout out to Kai running away with it. I love it. That's right. That's right. Shout out to everybody on the staff over there. Emma, everybody else that has their footprints on the show. You guys have been killing it all year. Way to go. Yeah. And thank you to all the 90%ers that voted us. We very much appreciate it. Travis, on to the next bit of new news. What's that? Do we have beef with Meryl Streep? I hope she doesn't have beef with me. Let's play this clip. Gentlemen, Travis. I'm a fan of Meryl Streep. This clip is from- I don't have any beef with her. You might want to wait until you see this clip. Travis got called out for some reason in Devil Wears Prada 2's promo video. Oh, shit. The hardest thing about shooting Milan was walking in stilettos on the cobblestones. I'd like to see Travis Kelsey do that. What? What? Trev. Oh, Meryl, you have no idea how good I am at walking in heels, okay? I think we should recreate this. I think we should put this to the test, not recreate. We're going to have to find some size 14 heels first. Okay. Well, we can have those custom made. I'm sure there's some WNBA players that can put us on to some spots. What's the heel, though? Is it a heel? Because I wear, like, Chelsea boots. Are those heels? No, no, no. It's got to be a stiletto. It's got to be. It's got to be a pointy bottom. That's why it's hard. You're right. I'll give credit where credit's due. I don't think I can do it, Meryl. I'll let you have it. What? Are you a quitter? You're a quitter? You're just going to give up to Meryl Streep? No, I just don't think I'm going to make it to Italy and walk in stilettos. Meryl Streep has quite the resume. Well, she has a resume. That doesn't mean she's better at walking in stilettos than you, just because she's a famous actress. Travis, we're competitors in the country. I can kind of correlate that, yeah. We don't bow down to anybody. When it's Meryl Streep, you kind of do. You just kind of bow down. Well, listen. If she was saying acting ability, I would get it. I completely get it. To be fair, I would be acting if I had heels on, so. Good point. That's a good point. All right. We're not going to put it to the test, apparently. I'm not. I'm going to let you have that one, Meryl. Can't wait to see Devil Wears Prada 2, though. The first one was a banger. I know this one's going to be epic. No dumb questions. Now that he has been called out by Meryl Streep, does Travis Kelsey think he can walk on cobblestone with a banger? Well, we're never going to find out, Kitty. I'll tell you what, Meryl. If I ever find myself in Italy on that cobblestone, I'll try and find a size 14, and we'll put it to the test. All right, now. Jason, you're a Talladega champ. You and Ricky Bobby. That is correct. I am. I am a Talladega champ. That's right. I went down there on behalf of Hendrick Motorsports. I was been filming some things over at their headquarters in Charlotte. I've been doing some exercises to really learn what it's like to compete. To compete in the sport of NASCAR. I went out there. I trained with the athletes. I was learning their techniques, all the things that go into coordinating a pit stop. These guys are changing tires, gassing these cars all the way up, and sometimes under the nine seconds on a stop. They'll change all four tires, put gas in the vehicle, and then get it out on its way. It's remarkable, the coordination and timing and expertise that goes into that. I also went out on the track with William Byron, who drove me around at over 190 miles an hour, around the Charlotte Motor Speedway, which was fucking awesome and terrifying all at the same time. I then got to drive my own vehicle. They did not let me drive 190 miles per hour, but I still drove faster than I've ever driven in my life. How fast did you go? How fast did you go? They do it by RPM. I was driving. This thing had a regulator on it that capped you at 5,000 RPMs. They said at one point I went 140. Everybody else said I was going 120. Somewhere between 120 and 140. Oh, that's nothing. You've done way faster. I was going 135 in a carriage. Caravan when I was in high school. That thing was flying around. Those caravans do not go 145. I guarantee you that. They go 135, and they shake back and forth when you get up over 120. You got a little dicey. They're not as aerodynamic as you think they are. Anyways, the last bit of it was to go to Talladega and to be with the pit crew with Corey Day's team, the 17 car with Hendrick Motorsports, and it was incredible. I got to see it firsthand, what it's like on race day, how they set up everything. These pit crews, man, they're in charge. They're in charge of setting everything up on pit road, right? There's five of these guys that are doing all these jobs. The jack man has to run out there, jack up the car, take the new tire, put it on after the changer has taken off the front right. He has to put the front right tire on immediately after that. Then the changer, while he's bolting that thing on, he's taking the jack off, running around, jacking up the other side, doing it over there, and all this stuff is happening. It's the dance that is taking place of speed, strength, athleticism, coordination. It is remarkable what those guys do each and every stop. On top of that, the drivers, everything they're doing to gain position, especially at Talladega, their foot is on the gas the entire race. You are wide open. The track is angled at like 33 degrees. You are just zooming around that thing. A lot of it comes down to drifting, and it's a very technical race from that standpoint. Corey Day, first time ever racing at Talladega, ended up winning. Winning the race, our driver. I'll tell you what, what they had me doing, I was a sign man. You put the sign down on pit road. the driver know where to stop at sometimes you might want to stop it short sometimes you might want to stop it uh where he normally stops at sometimes you want to stop a little wide so we did a short wide stop so it was a pretty technical job of the sign guy out of here dude i just have i have like one question that wasn't my only job then they would have me be in the gas i don't even know if there's a title for it but i was passing the fuel in and let me tell you we won first place i was the best fucking gas can passer on pit road that day baby champions one and oh baby this guy's sick it was a saturday race though right it was it was not the cup series it was not the cup series big dogs still still still though and for him to have his first race in talladega and him come away with with uh with a podium was pretty dope that was the coolest thing obviously this kid he's a really good sprint car racer he's won a bunch of uh races in that world uh now on the o'reilly series first race at talladega gets his first win there it was so electric down there and uh just happy for him getting out the gates like that man that's an awesome moment uh and it was full it was cool to just watch it was cool to be a part of obviously my contribution was pretty much nothing but you know what i still get to say i'm a nascar champion baby why did they put a scully on you why are you scuba stevening man it's a good question if you're behind the car near the gas at all everybody back there to be in 100 flame proof clothing so your shoes your socks you don't have it on your beard you're right i actually think technically i was not following code i think that that thing was supposed to be over my beard flag on the play take the take the metal away from him don't you do this travis don't you do this um but i'll say that not only were we there uh on behalf of hendrick motorsports to witness what it's like to be in a pit crew to see a race firsthand to hear in the radio everything that's happening between the driver and the pit crew and the chief we were also there to just experience talladega and to be as my first time at a nascar event and it was awesome all the other teams uh the way it's set up the people that were there the energy like when you watch it on tv it does not do it justice and everybody's said that to me for years i went to the indy 500 and college felt similarly but it's there's a level of having all of your senses engaged and watching you : these machines operate at this level that takes over you when you're there live like you feel you literally feel these cars coming by you not just the wind reving of the motors right that you feel the ground moving and shaking in some ways like it is a it is a very um sensory driven experience whether you're in there whether you're out there sitting on an rv watching outside of it it was fun it was it was a blast especially now that i know more about it rather than just watching them go around and certainly be like i don't know how most of this works these guys are really going to take a left turn somebody crosses it when the when the checkered flag is going but yeah awesome experience really appreciate them welcoming me in to kind of train with them and see what it's like firsthand uh these changers my guy rod and jafar freaking they got five bolts they got the single lug in the cup series it's just one lug in the cup series they're getting five of these things off taking it on i mean it's it's wild it's a good time hell yeah man and hendrix is obviously i mean they're they're one of the top dogs every single year going going around the nascar circuit that's right shout out to jeff gordon yeah hell yeah my guy clint boyer's been in the facility he's a good friends with brett veach and he's obviously a part of hendrix too and it's a fascinating league and uh it got even more interesting since michael jordan's come in i know they had that lawsuit it's been amazing seeing 23 racing uh take the fuck off this year i mean i'm pretty sure they've won the majority of the races so far i know he won i think the first three four maybe even like six out of ten or something like that those guys are absolutely rolling over there having a good year for sure and it's been cool to see him kind of take his greatness and and uh have it rub off onto the nascar world a little bit um yeah it's just it's it's such a fascinating sport and i'm telling you guys if you guys ever go to a nascar event man you are not going to be disappointed that thing is alive it is rocking it is not just people just sitting around watching the cars go by everybody is engaged and there's things around the track and inside the track that you can get it you can have some fun with as well you know i think it's just a it's the ultimate weekend party if you can get to one of these things for sure and the boulevard is equally as fun after the race highly recommend well last bit of new news we got is george kittle with like a jason kelsey intro for his alarm clock every single morning that's interesting okay okay he tweeted out can i get a custom one of these introductions for my alarm clock every morning please george we can make this happen you're gonna have to come on the show though baby let's go that's what i was gonna say but you gotta come on george we've been waiting for this get my guy on here have some fun man we've had so many legendary tight ends and we still haven't had george cup on now he just wants me to give him an intro no you gotta be a 92 of first george that's how this works oh man it's crazy how some of like the closest people to me i haven't like invited on the show yet i'm the fucking worst man well you just you don't like the presumption right you don't yeah i don't push it you don't want to like yeah i don't like asking people you're polite clevelander you don't want to impose it's people it's very standard you know yeah but i think george would like to come on the show he's clearly i mean he's asking to come on the show with this right sounds like sounds like he's he just wants an intro and um george he doesn't want to come on the show he wants us he wants to skirt the show and just get the invite just get these kind of things you don't get it you have to you have to come on the show george would love to love to give you an intro george get my guy kid alone here man anytime you want that you also do us a solid to come on the show absolutely no no all righty in case you missed it we did have a couple episodes dropped last week there's a lot happening with the draft a lot of nfl news coming out but we did drop a charlie's theron episode we also dropped a bonus episode with uh my former offensive line coach jeff stoutland uh they are both out there if you want to check them out obviously charlie's theron's pushing uh the the unbelievable movie apex it is a fucking thriller that you are not going to want to miss and then obviously jeff stoutland man one of one of the best to ever do it and uh near dear friend to jason obviously it was just cool to sit down and hear his stories man and it wasn't just stout you know we had a lot of come on too selleck was on there we did a little round table trav and i talked to him i really wanted it to try and be a celebration of his whole career and some of the things he's done and meant to certain people obviously mulatta had a that clip did really well one of the things that i think you know i think is being taken a little bit the wrong way i do want to say this because it feels like it's getting out there is like he mentioned um you know i asked him you know what went wrong last season and his answer by a lot of people because he said you know you got to call the right play in the right defense that's being made to look as though it's a dig solely at kevin patula i really think if you look at the whole quote if you look at the whole quote and this is the way stout is you know the whole quote is really referencing the players and the coaches he talks about executing the plays execution and then calling not calling bad plays into bad defenses and although patula was the play caller i know stout and like everybody's involved in that game plan everybody's involved in building that thing so the plays that i'm getting called really all he's saying there is to be successful in football it comes down to the players executing and the coaches putting the players in the best position possible and last year that didn't happen that's what i was trying to say with that quote so whatever just so you 92 percenters understand the offensive coordinator is is given the responsibility of putting the game plan together right he is he is a huge huge huge part of putting the past game together matching it up with the run game that is put together but there are different like the offensive coaching staff comes together and somebody's given the run game somebody's given the past game somebody's given the play action game somebody's given the screen game there are people that are that are putting in their input on the on the what the red zone looks like versus what backed up looks like when you're when you're backed up to your own red zone like this is a this is this isn't just one guy putting together their game and everybody following lead you know what i mean like this is it is it is everybody on the same understanding that this is the best thing for us to attack the team and to attack the team that we're playing this week so to throw it all on one person first of all stout would never fucking do that and second of all for people to make that assumption i think is pretty unfair yeah i mean i get it because he said calling plays but that's not the intention of it a lot of people just like you said don't understand what goes into all the plays that happen on a game day all right that's it for new news brought to you by american express thanks to our 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Alrighty, before we get into it, we can pull up the photo of Arval Reese at the draft in his Reese's suit. Okay, another Clevelander on the Reese's train. I see you, dog. There we go. There we go. Look at him. Look at the young fella. Complete tux with the Reese's on the inside. Ohio ball player right there if I've ever seen one. Anyway, Reese's has two new limited edition cups. The returning Reese's Strawberry PB&J Cup and the new Reese's. The new Reese's Marshmallow Cup. Two winning combos for an epic lunch. Get these Reese's Strawberry PB&J Cup and the new Reese's Marshmallow Cup today. It's only available a limited time only. Whether you're in school or almost out for summer, these new Reese's are the lunchtime redemption you never know you needed. They might make you wonder if everything happens for a Reese's. Hi. I see what you did there. I see what you did. I see what you did. I see what you're doing there. You're insane. Well, how about we get into some NFL draft recap, Jason? How about it, huh? I love that idea, Travis. I had a feeling you'd be down. Draft recap is brought to you by Expedia, the one place you go to go places. Chiefs picks, we moved up to pick six. We had the ninth pick and the 29th pick, and we traded up for the best DB in the draft, baby. Nice. Look, he almost like he knew it. He was coming. Is that a red suit? He was in a red suit? No, I think the red light is on him. I think it was more of like a – It's making it look more. Yeah, it was more of like, what's that color? Like a – I don't know. I'm terrible with colors. Like a dusty rose. But DB, man, sure. He's down there, Louisiana guy, I believe. Went to LSU. And this face was made when he saw the Chiefs trade up, so he knew he was going to a pretty respectable team once this happened, and I'm sure he got the call when he saw him going up. Delane, on getting drafted by the Chiefs, a lot of top 10 teams, they're really not too good, but that's not the situation here. We have a championship team, just had one little down year, but we're right back at it. And that's what I'm talking about, baby. Already coming with the fucking mindset of being a fucking top team. I absolutely love it. We had the first round pick, the 29th pick, as well as moving up to get Delane, Clemson D, and Peter Woods at 29. And I'm pretty pumped about getting somebody on the other side of Chris Jones there on the D line. And obviously, speed is out the world at how big he is, and I think he's going to fit right in in Spag's scheme here. Yeah, I mean, listen, I think that's one of the beautiful things about Spag's scheme. He can find guys that really fit what he envisions within the defense. He's always very multiple. You see guys that go in there and do specific tasks, and obviously they like this kid to go up there and get him in the first round. And I also like the Delane pick. That defense is a backfield. It's been picked apart so much over the past, what, three years or so? Justin Reed, you got LeJarrius Sneed. I'll say this. A lot of the big-name DBs that we've had in years past are elsewhere right now. So getting an unbelievable DB, the best in the draft, and then getting a guy on the D line that can really help Chris Jones not get double-teamed as much or at least create matchups to where this kid can thrive early on and really bring something to the team, I think that's going to be huge. It's going to be a huge part to the defense. But, I mean, it doesn't stop there on the D line. We got our Mason Thomas, Edge from Oklahoma. The guy's a fucking freak of nature in terms of athleticism and explosiveness. I can't wait to see how this guy gets after the quarterback, man. It's been kind of something that the Chiefs have been looking at to get better at, and that's getting after the QB and really putting quarterbacks under duress, man. Obviously, we've always had Chris Jones there, and George is a fucking workhorse. Got Gillette last year, but I think this is going to be, a game-changer at the edge position. I know he had a hamstring last year on an unbelievable fumble recovery. So, we'll see him when he gets in the building. I'm sure Spags will have a fun time putting him to work as well. There we go. Who else we got here? We got another cornerback from Oregon. He's kind of more of a nickel guy. I'm excited to see this guy get to work. Spags is, obviously, his nickel package is, it can get confusing to a lot of guys. So, I'm sure Jaden Kennedy is going to fucking be quite the chess piece for Spags. But after that, two to three picks that I'm pretty fucking excited about. And that's because they finally got to the offensive side of the ball in round five. Emmitt Johnson, running back from Nebraska, I believe. He was, like, first team Big Ten. Won a few awards at the running back position last year. We actually got to see him live when Nebraska played Cincinnati at Arrowhead. And then the other sideline, Cyrus Allen, wide receiver from Cincinnati, who I am fucking jacked up to see. We got another Bearcat in the building. We actually got two Bearcats in the building. One came as well as Jeff Caldwell in the free agency pickup. But Cyrus Allen, he's a route runner, man. He's a route runner. When we were talking about, you know, what do I want to see in a guy in the wide receiver room? He has his own twist on a lot of routes. And he has the quickness, he has the decisiveness. He really knows how to use his shoulders and his quickness and rhythm to get DBs in a bind, man. Listen, he's from Cincinnati. So, you know, he's going to be tough. You know, he's going to be physical. He's going to be a guy that loves football. And he loves drafting Bearcats. I mean, look how many successful Bearcats he's drafted. Not just me and you, Brent Selick, Trent Cole. - Yeah, Brian Cook. - Oh, Cook. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, either way, Andy loves the Bearcats. Cyrus Allen, Cincinnati Bearcat. Tough, physical, fast. Rawr! Get this dude out of here. Overall, I thought we did an unbelievable job on getting young guys that look like they love ball on the film that I watched of them and look like they can come in and help out right away, man. Garrett Nussmeyer, son of a coach. I was actually with his father in Philadelphia. - We'll see. - Yeah. What do you think of the Chiefs draft class draft? A lot of defense early, getting some offensive pieces late. I guess you got to solve some of the offensive stuff early in the draft this year, or earlier in free agency this year with Kenneth Walker. Yeah, man, I'm pumped. I'm pumped on just seeing these young guys getting in the building. You know, I thought we had a great team last year. We got a lot of those pieces. Back in the ones that we lost, we filled those needs ASAP. So I think these guys, once they get in the building, they feel the culture and they feel how we do things here. It's an exciting time, man. And I thought, shout out to Brett Veach and the crew for doing their-- doing hard work and getting the guys that we need in the building, man. All righty, well, Eagles also had a draft this week, and they went round one, pick 20. Makai Lemon, wide receiver out of USC, was the Bolitnikoff. I don't know if that's how you say it, but he was the receiver of the year in college football. Should be pretty good. This was a patented Howie Roseman pick. He was expected to be a top 15 guy, started sliding. And Howie trades up ahead of the Steelers to snag him at pick 20. You know, this is just further proof that I think this Eagles offense is changing, right? Like, you know, the Eagles and Jalen Hurts have not thrown the ball over the middle of the field very much. That's something that fans have criticized a lot. And this was really most of his production in college, right? He's a shorter guy, gonna operate out of the slot, a little bit smaller, but he is physical. You put that film on, man, this guy can play some fucking ball. Catches everything. They're playing some highlights where he is going up and getting the ball. Strong receiver, too, man. He is a strong receiver. A lot of the comparisons are the Amon Ross St. Brown, Mini Puka Nakua. And you see exactly what this offense that Sean Mannion is bringing with all the motions and shifting the formations from three by one to two by two and having those guys insert some of the creative unique things they might be able to do with this guy. Cowboys not too happy that the Eagles traded up for him or that the Cowboys traded with the Eagles to allow them to come up to 20 and draft Makai Lemon. @jdcowboys2, "I dead ass would have rather traded with North Korea." That's a pretty hilarious tweet right there. I don't know how many picks North Korea had in this one. Didn't see a lot of the Koreans off the board. We have Jerry Jones on trading with the Eagles. If I eliminated trading with all the teams that I want and wanted to beat their ass, you wouldn't have anybody left to trade with. Meaning he wants to whoop everybody's ass, not just the Eagles. So if he needs to trade, he's not just, you know, not trading to one team. Well, we sure appreciate it. We sure appreciate it. Yeah, Eagles have done this where they've been trading up recently. I feel like how we, a lot of this has gone from like, when you see somebody sliding and sees the perceived value, especially if it's at a position of need, he is not shy of pulling the trigger. Did the same thing with Jalen Carter. Obviously, we drafted value with Cooper DeGioia, Gene, as he was sliding in the draft a couple years ago, they've been. doing a great job of getting value out of some of these picks in terms of, like, where the consensus has them right. Pick two, they go tight end from Vanderbilt, Eli Stowers. I don't know anything about him because I don't watch a lot of college football. I do know that – I know quite a bit about him, man. This kid is a fucking stud. Well, then, go ahead, Travis. Please tell me. Please tell me. You guys got a stud, man. The word around town is he doesn't have quite the size, but I'm telling you, man, this kid knows how to play some fucking football, man. He knows how to run routes. He's got a good feel. He can run, and when he has the ball in his hands, man, you'd be surprised on how much, you know, with this lack of size that they're saying, how many tackles he breaks and just how good he is, man. He was one of Vanderbilt's best players, I thought, when I watched him play. And, again, it's another thing with this offense, right? Big decision you have to make. Do you go 11 personnel? Do you go 12 personnel? How can you do all these runs and concepts and motioning guys around? And 12 personnel, a lot of teams utilize it. I mean, the Rams were utilizing 13 personnel. One running back with three tight ends. When you have a guy that can go out wide while also coming inside and block linebackers and safeties, you know, crack down on a defensive end, you have screen options with them. These guys are very valuable, and we see it addressed right away with the first-round pick with Makai Lemon and the second-round pick with Eli Stowers. Third pick, they address the offensive line. Obviously, Lane Johnson is getting a little bit older. We thought they would take a tackle at some point. Some people thought it would be earlier in the draft. They end up addressing it at the third round. But pick 68 with Markel Bell. Monstrous of a man. This guy is huge. We don't have his stats up here, but he's something like 6'9", 350, basically. He is a big boy. He's a big boy. He's a big man out here in Philadelphia. How big of a boy are you? He's a big boy. He's a big old son of a gun. Honestly, this one, I mean, mountain of a man. Long arms, big old hands, not the most fleet of foot, which is a little surprising in some ways to me because this system is more rooted, in outside zone concepts. Traditionally, these offenses have drafted guys that can open their hips and run and cut off on the backside and do screens and play well with the misdirection game. This guy is suited to be a great pass blocker, right? Drop back, long arms, very rangy, going to be very good in that regard as long as he can mirror and redirect with people. More of a power downhill guy, which some of these offenses have shifted recently. The Rams now run more duo than they do outside zone. Those offenses started in outside zone. Now they're running more dive concepts, more downhill plays. Maybe that's something that'll tell you about what the Eagles think they might do in the future. They don't go with the smaller, more athletically nimble tackle. They go with the big stalwart that'll be able to protect the quarterback and run downhill runs. Interesting pick there in the third round. Round five, they go Cole Payton. Get a little quarterback depth from North Dakota State. We've had some North Dakota State success at the quarterback. trading the two third-round picks to the Vikings. For Jonathan Grenard, this was a missing piece on that defense. Obviously, Jalen Phillips signed a $120 million deal in free agency. They lost out on that edge defender who really brought a lot to the defense midway through the season. Now they get Jonathan Grenard, a very good player from Minnesota. Four years, 100 mil. Yeah. How much money does Philly have, man? Howie is a wizard. I mean, he just finds a way to get it done. I don't know. I feel like they can finagle whatever they want because they just know how to structure it. I don't really understand how it works. Oh, also got to shout out Jeffrey Lurie for spending the money. But, yeah, they find a way to get really good players, and they do it very often by spending a fuck ton of money. So shout out to the Luries for investing in the team. Shout out to Howie for understanding the salary cap and how to finagle every dollar you can out of that thing to maximize. The talent on the roster. So that is also a huge part of the Eagles draft, which ultimately with that alone is a successful draft. Makai Lemon pan out. Some of these guys, they picked the tight end from Vanderbilt. I mean, this guy in the seventh round, if we get another Jordan Malata, although I don't want to start anointing him yet, a lot to like about this draft from the Eagles. All righty. Outside of Eagles and Chiefs, there were a bunch of other players selected in this year's draft. Yeah. Roughly 290. We do not watch a lot of these. These guys, but we are excited to see someone play. Obviously, everybody's talking about Fernando Mendoza, number one overall to the Raiders, and people have known that for a long time. Only the fourth quarterback since 1967 to win the Heisman, the Natty, and go number one overall in the same season. That's an interesting stat. There you go. I'm interested to see, you know, exactly how they go about playing them. Obviously, they have Kirk Cousins. I know Ty Simpson was picked by the Rams. Matthew Stafford. Our guy Matt Stafford is still, obviously, he's just one MVP. He'll be the starter there. So, you get a guy that's, you know, looking to learn under him. I'm interested to see if, you know, that's the approach the Raiders take. Yeah, where do you stand on that? Like, I do. I mean, I'm for it, obviously, because I've seen it work. I've seen it happen. You know, I've seen Pat Mahomes learn under Alex Smith. Yeah, you got Aaron Rodgers, Pat Mahomes. A lot of really big-name guys sat for a second. But there's also a lot of big – Tom Brady, behind you, Bledsoe. There's a lot of big names. It's a learning process. But at the same point, to what Deion Sanders said, man, I never learned nothing sitting on the bench. Like, you need to go out there and play to do the best. How about the Deion? That was an epic fucking quote. It was a banger. Peyton Manning, I mean, led the league in interceptions, but he played his rookie year and learned a lot, I'm sure. Yeah. I mean, look what Caleb Williams was able to do last year. I do think, in general, more so than playing or not, I think it's really good for young quarterbacks in particular to learn how to prepare, to learn how to watch football, to film, to learn all that stuff from veteran quarterbacks that have been doing it for a long time and know that side of it. So, like, Mendoza – Yeah, and Kirk is one of the best at that. Yeah, Mendoza is in a great situation just being in the same room with Kirk Cousins, regardless of what the playing time situation ends up being at the end of the day. He is going to learn a ton about what it takes to compete and prepare at the highest level. Same thing, obviously, for Ty Simpson. And I'm sure he's got old Tom Brady right there in his back pocket, helping him if he ever needs, you know – That's a good point. There's another – There's another guy there. Yeah, you're right. All right. Well, outside of those quarterbacks, another big draft pick for this show was Jets Jake not getting who he wanted the Jets to take because he knows exactly who should have been taking it, number two. Dude, David Bailey is a fucking dog. You cannot possibly be upset at them getting David Bailey. Oh, he is. The dude is a fucking game changer. Jake, before they picked, said, don't mess it up, Jets, with a picture of a handwritten sticky note. Arvell Reese. No matter what. I mean, he put in the time to really study who they should pick. I mean, listen, Arvell Reese, Glenville High School up there in northeast Ohio, up in Cleveland. The Glenville guy. Oh, yeah. Went to Glenville, Ohio State to the NFL, as we know it. For a lot of guys, it's almost a powerhouse up there in Cleveland. It's a pipeline, for sure. Yeah, getting guys to Ohio State or getting guys to the Big Ten and into the NFL. Yep. So, I'm excited for – Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, just to see Arvell Reese, you know, play some football in the league, man. Fellow Cleveland guy. But I think David Bailey was a pretty goddamn pick. Pretty goddamn good pick. Nothing will bring me greater joy than when David Bailey turns into, like, a 10-year New York Jet. Like, multiple Pro Bowls and is like, yeah. I just can't wait for Jake to have to eat that entire sticky note. Sorry. Love you, Jake. All right. Last thing. Shout out to lineman Caleb Lomu, drafted in flip-flops and jorts. This is a big green flag for offensive linemen. So, it's a lineman wearing jorts and flip-flops. With a quarter zip? No. I mean, I'm fine with a quarter zip. Quarter zip's nice and comfy. I got those nice jeans. So nice. Yeah, they're not cut-offs. Definitely better. It's a bigger green flag if you cut off those jean shorts yourself. Those are bought jorts. What's that? Bought jorts, not made jorts. Well, maybe he's not as good with scissors. Either way, I did love the internet falling in love with him dancing. Did you see these dance moves? From my guy, Caleb? I did. I did see them. But I'll see them again. Come on. Put them up there. Very similar. Lane Johnson's got some similar moves. I've seen him pull in the locker room. I think it's a. He's got good hips, fluidity, smooth. To move like this, you know, you got to be kind of athletic. You can't just be pulling that out if you're big stiffy. No. Listen, if you're. Hey, hey. I think this is a major green flag. I really do. Oh, yeah. Good hips. Rhythm. Loose. Confident. Come on now. Show it all, big dog. That's hilarious. All righty. That's a wrap for the New Heights Draft Recap. The New Heights Draft Recap was brought to you by Expedia. Yes. Thank you to our partner, Expedia. Summer trips, weekend getaways. Most of us have travel on the brain right now. And honestly, you want to keep planning simple. That's where Expedia comes in. It's the all-in-one travel shop. Ain't that the truth? Flights. Hotels. Vacation rentals. Cars. Activities. Everything is right there on the app. Dude, I remember going on trips when we were kids. And it felt like everything was booked on Expedia because of how much mom went through all these different avenues to make sure it was all set up for us. Yep. 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Like I told you that I'm trying to dunk for the first time in my life, right? I told you this, right? Oh yeah, that's right. How's it going? Oh, so not good. No, I was going to say. He's. - Yeah, go ahead, Jason. Tell them how you tore your quad. All right. So I've been doing this type of training where apparently you like you lift heavy and then you do like explosive jumping afterwards. It's supposed to make you jump higher if you're not born naturally with it. Right. So I was doing heavy quarter squats supplemented with jumping on top of a box. So I had, well, I did seven plates the week before and I was doing quarter squats of that and then jumping up on the box and it was working. My initial height of jumping like running and jumping. My initial height of running and jumping was like 10, six. Like it was embarrassing start. I was up over 10, 10. So I was like high enough to get there. I feel like, so I just wanted like that. No, see, I got a little bit of chance. I can't. You got the baby. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. So, oh, so I try to get just one more inch hopefully and I go back in there and I'm squatting again in the second, the week after that I tore my quad doing the quarter squat and had to sit it down, but I'm getting ready to start it again. Do you have any, like how did you learn to jump so high? What were the, what are the techniques that you implemented to jump over human beings? I gotta be honest, man. I don't know. I mean, my mom, my mom, you know, she didn't bring much to the table. More of a, more of a runner, you know, long distance. Yeah, I don't know. That, that helps for sure. I, I don't, I gotta say the quarter squat box jump combo wasn't really in my, wasn't in my. Yeah. I'm going to stop talking. No, man, I just jumped. I felt like that was the intro. All right. All right. Our guest today is the six foot nine forward from the university of Oklahoma. He was the number one pick in the 2009 NBA draft, the 2011 rookie of the year, 2011 slam dunk contest champion, six time NBA all-star, five time all NBA. He was the number one pick in the 2009 NBA draft, and he made his broadcasting debut this NBA season as studio panelists on Amazon prime 92%. Please welcome perhaps the greatest dunker of all time. Blake Griffin. Hyped up right now. Yeah, baby. I am sweating. I am sweating from that. He usually blows a gasket. Well, yeah, but it's a blood vessel in your eye. Appreciate you jumping on the show, man. How's a, how's broadcasting going dog? You guys are in the heat of the fucking playoffs right now. You get the full year under your belt. I'm in the heat of the fucking playoffs right now. How you been enjoying Amazon? It's been awesome, man. I figured I was going to enjoy it. Obviously, we love the sport we play, but I enjoy it so much more. And part of that is just like, dude, I get to sit in a room and watch the games with Dirk Nowinski, Steve Nash, Udonis Haslam. Taylor Rooks is our host, and she's awesome. So it's like we just sit there and we watch games and talk, and that part's fun, but also trying to usher in this new era of sports media and how people view the game, especially in basketball. I think football, they do such a good job. But basketball, I think it needed sort of like an education and like an uplifting standpoint, because obviously you guys know it's not easy. We're all training extremely hard, trying to win, putting forth so much effort, and sometimes it comes down to these little things. So just trying to educate fans to sort of see the game, I guess, the way we see it has been a blast. But I've had so much fun. Well, Jason is very much one of those people that think everybody, yeah, the NBA is just out there running and jumping and chucking up threes. I've never said that once. Not wrong, not wrong. Let me ask you this. How has the game changed? Because it does feel like the NBA has changed from, especially when we were kids. It's continuing to evolve. It's continuing to use more floor space. How have you seen it continue to change now as an analyst from when you played? Well, for one, the pace has changed. And there's all these advanced analytics that talk about pace, right? But pace is sort of a deceiving, a stat because it's sort of just tracking how much you're going up and down. But now with every player being so skilled, like now centers shoot threes, power forwards, everybody shoots threes. Everybody can handle the ball to a certain extent. Now, some guys don't, but most teams and most of the good teams, everybody is such a dynamic player that the court is even more spread out. So now you're seeing longer closeouts. You're seeing guys be able to drive and kick and all that stuff in the half court is happening so much more. I also think that a side note, like that's why we're, we're seeing a few more injuries. Like the pace is sure. It's similar to like the nineties, but there is so much more movement and so much more dynamic movement. You know, we've gotten to a place where the game, I think the game is in a good place. It's just different than it was. And a lot of that was, you know, Golden State coming in and, you know, Splash Brothers and all these teams shooting threes. And I also had this thing where it's like, you know, that was great for them. And they had two of the best shooters of all time. Yeah. And now you're sort of watching, you know, some of these, other teams like teams that are sort of tanking or rebuilding and young, and they're playing the same way. And it's like, it's glaring when you're taking 53s and you're missing 42 of them. Three? Fifty fucking threes. Make some adjustments. Is insane. Yeah. Insane for an entire game. I mean, by the way, that's like, it's like normal now. Like teams that don't even shoot the three well shoot high forties. So yeah, it's wild. But like I, you know, I still, I can always find things that I really appreciate about the game. I mean, we have some of the best young, young players. We sort of have this like weird moment right now, or it's a great moment of like, we still have the LeBrons, the Katie's, the Steph's, like all these guys that we've known for years, but we also have these young guys who are fucking incredible. And they are like ushering in this new era of superstars. So I, to me, the game's in such a good place. And I'm excited about it. Give me a quick three of these young guys. Who do you think is really going to be taking over this league or who are your three favorite or a couple of them right now? I mean, Wimby is like, like if you guys insane, dude, he's an alien. Can't tell me he's not an alien. If you haven't had him play in person, I got to see him in person for the first time. Like his follow through on a free throw is like nine, nine, 10, you know, like jump. And when he fades away, you're not blocking it. And then defensively, it's fun to watch him play defense. And we don't really say that often about guys. So he's like the obvious, like outlier of just like complete freak of nature, but also, so dedicated to the game. Shay's obviously just on his career. We'll win another MVP in my opinion. And they're the best team in basketball. Another guy that I love watching plays Cade Cunningham. Nice. He's like, I think he's so good. I mean, he's so under control. You finally took off this year, had Detroit number one in the East. Yeah. So like I said, games in a good place. And that's just, that's just three of the few young guys that are really good. Are there guys in the league that you were, you watch play and just like, man, if I just had one fucking dribble, I'd fucking, I'd go up and put them in his place and stuff them in the fucking rim. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's like, I don't know. It's hard to, I'm sure Jason, I'm sure you like, you know, it's hard to not to watch games and think like, oh man, like certain moments, especially end of games, big plays, like big moments. Like it's, that's the one thing that I feel like I do miss that you, you, you never really get back, but also like, and I gave everything I had to my career and I'm, I'm happy with what I'm doing now. And it's, it's fun to, fun to be on this side, but yeah, I'd for sure challenge, challenge a lot of those guys. I'd try. It might not go well, but I'd try. Well, we got to ask you as two Clevelanders, what do you think of the calves? What are we going to do in the playoffs? Toronto, Toronto just tied it up. Yeah, I know. We'll see. So the biggest thing was like, man, like physicality in the playoffs over the last couple of years has sort of been the thing that they, they didn't, they didn't match well. Um, and the first, the first two games against Toronto, you're like, man, this team looks pretty good. You know, they're playing free. Um, I think they're so talented. Donovan Mitchell is unbelievable. We know what James Harden is. I think they just need to get some of that. Like, you know what? Like, let's go out and let's play defense aggressively as we possibly can. Take the Oklahoma city model of like, they just foul the shit out of people. And they sort of look at the reps. Like I dare you to call everyone. You can't. That was, that's kind of the Belichick way in the NFL. Make them call it in the playoffs. You know what I mean? And the, the game just changes in the playoffs. So, I love their team. I think like, especially with, if Orlando gets past Detroit, like that's their matchup in the second round. And Orlando is sort of up and down and they match up well lengthwise. So I think they've got a chance. Um, I, you just need to see them play like a really, a much more physical brand of basketball. I think in my opinion, Come on, come on, Mowgli. Come on, baby. Start throwing those fucking bows in the fucking paint, man. Mowgli was the guy that like, I realized like I should probably retire when I was like lined up next to him. But it's just a freak. Just six 11. Like, like couldn't get around him. I was like, you know what? Is there an art with like the fouls to like one, not get called, but to just really get in the other person's head, especially if they're like a shooter. Like, what do you do to like take a team out of three point shooting by getting maybe their best players rattled? Yeah. I think it's like very player dependent. Um, like some guys don't like, Some guys do like contact. The guys that don't like contact, it's about from the tip, making sure you get a hand on or they feel you at every moment. Really making them realize, hey, you're going to be in for a long night. Physically, I'm going to rough you up a little bit. Team-wise, taking away the three is so hard because we just talked about the court's so spread out. I think that's what Detroit's running into right now is they don't have a lot of great three-point shooting. On top of that, they're not shooting the ball well from three. That court just shrinks. They're packing the paint. Now you're not getting inside as easily, and the whole game changes. Defensively, to me, physicality in the playoffs is what really sets a team apart. Oklahoma City, like I just mentioned, they're on you at every moment of the game. I say they foul. They just play so physical that they're sort of setting. The team that hits first and sets the physicality level, that's the team that sort of dictates the game, in my opinion. Similar in the NFL, man. If you come out and you fucking set the tone early, man, that'll put a team in a tough position. Yeah, is that a thing you guys would talk or think about? Even if you're starting offensively, you're like, hey, we just want to make our presence felt first drive. First play, we're going to come out in 13%. We're coming out with three tight ends, and we're going to run. Five right at them, and we're going to set this tone. We're coming right down the middle. It would also be also telling what the coaches thought of the game, because they'd be like, hey, second play, we're going to start with a trick play. It's like, okay, you don't think we're going to have to physically. We're going straight to the trick plays. You got it, coach. We're going flea flicker. They'll never. We got to sneak one off the top of these boys. He didn't really believe in this fucking thing. Okay, so let me ask you a question. You'd come out, say you get hit in the mouth first, how hard is it to change that through the course of the game? I mean, again, that probably depends on who it is. Like some guys, the physicality affects them more. In some positions, it affects them more, right? Like quarterback, if you get rattled, some of those guys can respond from it, and some of those guys just the rest of the game are thinking about it, and it makes them a tick off in their timing or gets them off their spot. They start setting up deeper, which messes all sorts of other things up. For me personally, I don't know, like if I got hit early, I would just be like, man, next time that happens, I'm going to make sure I fucking don't get molly whopped. Like, I'm going to learn my lesson there. I'm going to go down with my head down and get a 15 yard penalty, but I'm not letting that happen again. No, I kind of, I kind of need that first hit. I like that first hit that happened early for me. It does kind of snap you into it. It like kind of gets the juices flowing. Activate some things, get your, get your mind into it. And then from there, it's just kind of like, you know, the armor is set and you're ready to fucking roll. But I kind of like getting involved early. So I get that catch and try and, you know, impose my will or, or set the tone with the first down or something like that. Get up and start hooting and hollering and get guys pissed off on the other side of the ball. Yeah. Oh, that's the best when you know, you've got a team pissed off. It's the best dude. So you used to play football. What position? You got to tell me what, what age did you stop playing? I stopped my sophomore year. Um, I was just like playing too much basketball, but I was like, uh, I was a wide receiver and like a safety. I was like, I didn't really like fill out until like after my sophomore year, you were a safety. We do six, nine as a sophomore. How tall were you? No, no, no. I was like sophomore year. I was probably only like six or freshman year. I was probably like six, five, six, four, but I could, I was, dude, I was so skinny. I could not put on weight. So it was like, I couldn't play defensive end. I couldn't, you know, and Oklahoma football is like they. Just go out there and like, you know, just patrol around and any jump ball, just try to go get it. Right on, man. Did you ever do the Oklahoma drill? Oh yeah, dude. Oh, let's go. My eighth grade year is the first year I played tackle and did the Oklahoma drill and I made the mistake of like, all right, I'm really going to kind of like you said, I'm going to keep my head down and just got hit on the top of the head, like stinger all down my head. Oh, the old whack-a-mole. Oh man. That's the worst. Yeah. The last play of my high school career in the playoffs and caught a pass across the middle, maybe 10 yards, same play, caught another pass across the middle of 10 yards. We go back to it. And this linebacker who was signed to like Tulsa or something, you know, small school in Oklahoma just absolutely levels me. And all I remember is just like staring up into the night sky, trying to catch my breath and I see him over me and he just does the penalty. He's the worst. And I was like, you know what? I think we're good. I think basketball maybe. Well, this is pertinent because we used to ask basketball guys, it wasn't in the rundown, but do you think you could have played in the NFL? I mean, I would have had to like really dedicate time to it. I mean, you never know. I mean, there's so many guys that are like later bloomers. Like I think like when it comes to like this like whole debate, I think it's very interesting because everybody thinks they can do everything else, but it's just like, I don't think people realize, like I've learned this from like talking to like, you know, Whitworth or like Ryan Khalil, you guys know, and it's like listening to them talk about the game of football and like all the nuances and all the things that they have to think about and do. It really like lets you know that like, we are all, we all don't know what we're talking about because you watch these guys do it and you're like, well, not that it looks easy, but you do it so well that you think like, oh, I could do that, but you also, you're not thinking about all the variables and all these other things that are going into it. And like, you just don't know until you've been put in that situation. Like, man, I've had teammates who can't remember the play out of the timeout. Oh no. Oh no. What are we? Like, how can we, how could we expect somebody to go out and like be in a two minute drill and like, remember all this when like, we can't remember one play. Just so you know, there's some guys that we've played with that aren't very good at the timeout either. Like that's not exclusive to basketball. There was one player not too long ago. There was a player not too long ago who was in his later years. I'm not going to say who it was, but would literally leave the huddle on the biggest play of the game and asked me what he had. And I'm just like, what? God damn it. Oh, the amount of time. Yeah. It's tough. Like, Hey, Hey, where am I supposed to be? And then I secretly tell him to do something so that I get open. It's the best. Clear it out for me. Who do you have winning at all in the playoffs this year or the NBA championship? I just say, I mean, Oklahoma city is the best team, like barring like an injury. I mean, there there's a little bit banged up right now, but they look fantastic. The East is super interesting to me because Boston was supposed to be, this was supposed to be like a down, down year, you know, like with all the injuries, they traded guys away. It was Jason Tatum was out. And then Jalen Brown has had a monster year. They had guys step up and Brad Stevens literally a couple hours ago, one executive of the year. I mean, he, they just put this. He put this team together so well, Joe Mizzou is a great coach. Jason Tatum is now back. And so to me now, after watching how, you know, Cleveland looks, Detroit looks and the Knicks look like, I'm like, man, Boston, Boston, in my opinion right now is the team that's going to match up with, with Oklahoma city in the finals, but Oklahoma city healthy, man. I like that's tough. They're, they're a good team. Being from Cleveland. I'll still hope that they find a way to get physical on the defensive side. Come on. Come on. Just listen to Blake. Come on. Don't listen to your coach. Listen to Blake. Go watch Lance Stevenson clips from when he was with the, was it Pacers? Do you remember that when he was doing that? That's not the physicality that we're talking about. Well, Blake, you and your brother got drafted in the same year. How about that? How often do you remind him that you were the first overall pick and he was 48? Oh man. You know what? I, uh, pretty much every day. No, that was like, dude, that was like, talk about like a dream come true. I mean, obviously you guys both got to play at the same time, but like, man, like draft night, like it was like a little stressful because it was like, you know, I, I was fortunate enough to go one and then we were kind of waiting around and then when it happened, it was just like, this is the best night ever, you know, family, friends there. And like, um, you know, to like do that thing that you've been watching on TV. For so long. And being like, I one day hope to do it, to do it with your brother. The same year was, it was pretty cool. And you're a, your brother's doing the financial world now, right? Yeah. He's a, he started when he retired. Like my brother, my brother was always like straight a student for perfect. Great basketball player. Yeah. Yeah. I was always Taylor's brother growing up. It was like, Oh, that was Taylor's brother. And it was just like, but yeah. So when he retired, like I was like. I was like, man, nobody better to like, sort of have in my corner to like, help me out. And like, I didn't even like as a man, but he started sort of managing my investment stuff, you know, it was kind of like spread out all over the place and he put his head down and went around and met with a bunch of people and really figured out that space really well. I went to work for a PE company and, and now we have a VC fund that we run and it's a blast. I mean, it's still to this day, being able to like, you know, like you guys being able to like still do stuff together, um, is like, it's the best. I was always little Kels. It was like, yeah, there's little Kels. So Kel, he's pretty good at sports, but he can't read or write. So who knows? Who knows? We still haven't seen him play any game yet. Good kid. Good kid, though. Good kid, though. Yeah, we're looking at you now. You can read now. Yeah. Thank you. It's new audio. That's why Jason does the intros. Hit that one on the head. Half the time, I can't even pronounce the name of the people we have out here. Your dad coached you guys in high school? Yeah, man. You guys had to have won state. We did. I won four. My brother won two. And we played in a little bit lower division. But, man, my dad was like a legendary high school basketball coach. He coached for 40-plus years and 15 state championships, something like that. He must have played, right? Yeah, he played basketball and football in college, like a small college. And then he coached football and basketball. And then he only coached basketball, I think, like, when I was young. I think maybe, like, eight or nine, he kind of stopped coaching football and just was, like, all basketball. Yep, these boys going to the NBA. Waste my time with that pigskin. He had a vision. Yeah, it was awesome, though. It was really cool. And also, like, dude, like, you know, like, he pushed me harder than maybe another coach would have because he knew exactly how to make me work, you know. And I was like, you know, sounds like I was a little bit more, like, Travis, just a little bit, a little scattered, a little everywhere. Getting in trouble a little bit too much. Get a good growth spurt. Everybody saw the potential. Yeah, exactly. Like, oh, okay, now we'll give this kid a chance. Wow, he's powerful. He just jumped the top of the backfield. That's amazing. All those quarter squats, man. That's right. Dude, when you came on the scene at OU, holy fucking shit. Did you know that you were just going to fucking take it over like that? Like, I don't know. How do you explain it? We were watching it from the fucking, like, Cincinnati and Cleveland, and you fucking were dunking on everybody, going coast to coast, fucking just the most athletic, powerful. Did you know you, like, were going to take over the fucking college basketball world like that? No, dude. I mean, my freshman year, I had, like, a solid freshman year. And I, like, there was some moments my freshman year I was like, okay, I can do this. Like, I feel like, you know, I'm getting a little bit of buzz here. But decided to come back, didn't enter the draft after my freshman year, decided to come back. And, dude, I went away. My brother and I went and worked out with us. We found this trainer in San Francisco. This guy is, like, nuts. And we went for two straight months, had no money, you know, in college. And we worked out for two straight months. It was, like, six days a week. We were, like, running sand hills. And it's, like, unconventional training. We do basketball in the morning, work out in the afternoon, go back and do basketball. And that's when I came back to campus for, like, summer workouts. It was, like, a very clear difference. And, like, it was big for me because it was, like, I realized, you know, the value of hard work. And I always felt like I worked hard. But, like, I really, like, put in a lot of time. And that's sort of when I made that, like, jump. And then my sophomore year was kind of when I sort of broke out, like, on a national scale. But, man, college was so fun. I loved every minute of it. Was it always Oklahoma? It actually wasn't. So my brother committed and played there his freshman year. And then they got a new coach, Kelvin Sampson, left. There was, like, some recruiting violations. They got him this new coach. And I honestly, like, dude, I loved Kansas. I loved Florida. Thought about going to play with our boys. J.P.? Because, you know, I'd known C.P. for years, you know, playing AAU and stuff. And then I had, like, Duke and North Carolina on my list. But that was kind of, like, just like a – it felt like it was, like, just a lifelong dream of, like, Duke and North Carolina. Yeah. But I wanted to go to a place. A place where, like, A, my brother was there. You know, it was close to home. My parents would come watch us play. And then also just, like, I wanted to go to a place where you felt like they really believed in you. And you were going to be the guy. And you were going to get the opportunity. And I'm so glad I did. Like, that's always kind of my advice to, like, younger guys is, like, you can't fall for everything these coaches are telling you. Because, like, you know, their job's on the line every year just, you know, just like everybody else. So go to a place that you really, you know, appreciated, which is crazy because it's the complete opposite. The opposite now with NIL. Dude, I was about to say, you can go – yeah, and you can get to the league from just about anywhere. And that's any league, that is. That – if the film is out there and sometimes all you need is that step in the door, man. But, yeah, it's way different, especially over there in Oklahoma where you guys have got to actually, like, boost your money. Yeah. Yeah, football players were eating good. O-line was heavy. Very relatable, obviously, with Travis and I going to Cincinnati. But – and that was – Similar to us is, like, I played for three different head coaches. So that was the model back then was, like, you've got to fall in love with the university and, like, where you're at as opposed to that. Because that could change – I mean, on average, coaches were getting fired or taking promotions within three years, especially at the smaller schools. Like, it was going to be quick turnover. But, yeah, NIL's changed all of it. Where do you stand on NIL? Are you pro-NIL? I'm somewhere in between because what we've done is effectively created a pro-sports model without the things that keep professional sports on the rails. So, you know, like – and, you know, I'm sure it's hard to, like, unionize, like, all those college athletes. And so, to me, what it should be is, like, football, basketball – men's and women's basketball and football are usually the money earners at schools. And, like, so those sports, like, there should be a union. There should be a collective bargaining agreement. There should be a salary cap. We have to sort of rein in the transfer thing. I get it. Like, you shouldn't be stuck at a school. But you – I mean, some guys are on their fifth school. Yeah, there should be a commitment, like a one, two, three-year deal. Like, there should be something from the player that's like, hey, I'm bought into this relationship as well. I mean, you said it. Like, you have to fall in love with the university. Like, I loved going to the University of Oklahoma. And I'm not saying, like, it's wrong now because kids are doing what they should be doing. Like, go get as much money as possible and, you know, do whatever you can. If you're not the starter here, go to a school that will pay you to be the starter. Yeah. There's no blame for me. For me, on the athlete side, I just think there needs to be parameters just because, you know. And also, something that's not talked about really is, like, some of the other sports are being affected by this as well. Because they're – like, some schools are cutting some of these non-revenue sports. Oh, shit. You know, and it's messing up the whole ecosystem. And, like, dude, I mean, you look at, like, we're always so good at the Olympics because every – you have so many different avenues to go wrestle, to go do whatever sport it is. And if other sports are affected by this NIL and the big money-making sports, then I don't think that's okay, too. I think everybody – if we're going to pay student-athletes, everybody should get some. I'm not saying everybody should get the exact same amount, but everybody should get some. And then there should also be – all the other sports should be taken care of as well. So how much did you get under the table at Oklahoma? Dude, I was getting gift cards. That's good. Oh, sweet. Applebee's. Hell yeah. Those appetizers at Applebee's are going down easy, boys. Real Midwestern deep cut. Yeah, no doubt. This is luxury. Longhorn Steakhouse. No way. Dude, the bread rolls at Longhorn Steakhouse. We go to St. Joe, Missouri every fucking year, dude. And it is, like, the classiest establishment in St. Joe. They're going to fucking kill me for saying that. But it is literally one of the big – I'm only there for three weeks. And it's right next to campus, so we go there. Whenever we want to, like, get the team together, I fucking pig out. They just bring the rolls out the entire time. Like, it doesn't just start in the beginning. It's just, like, as they come out of the oven, just like, yeah, just bring those things on over here. It's the best. Especially, dude, especially, like, the college towns, too. Like, you go eat like a king. Dude, we had Lane Johnson early when he got there. He was – I forget if it's Longhorn or Outback because I always just associate them as, like, pretty much the same restaurant in my head. Yeah. One's got rolls and the other's got rolls. One's got Bloomin' Onions. Either way, he's like, dude, you got to get the chicken fingers. And I'm like, bro, you want me to go get the chicken fingers? He's like, just trust me. And I was like, how much have you eaten of, like, Longhorn to know that the chicken fingers is, like, where – You've gotten to that part of the menu that you're just getting chicken fingers. So we went and I got the chicken fingers and he was right. The chicken fingers were absolutely fantastic. Blake, you're drafted number one overall to the Clippers. What was it like? What was it like going to the NBA, being the number one overall draft pick? I mean, truly, like, you know, obviously, like, a dream come true. But also, like, I don't know if people remember, but, like, the Clippers was, like – Yeah, you put the Clippers – yeah, you took the Clippers out there. They had the number one pick for a reason. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. And, like, dude, I remember, like, I think it was Bill Simmons wrote, like, an article, like, saying, like – It was, like, an open letter to Tommy Griffin, my dad. It was, like, don't let the Clippers draft you, son. Like, you know what I mean? That's a warning. Really, you know what I mean? Like, because they had had – they were famously – they basically had had, like, three number one picks that none of them panned out. And so there was, like, a lot of unknown, and it was, like, a little bit daunting. But I kind of, like – it was sort of – you know, it helped, like, the fact that I went to Oklahoma because it wasn't – like, at the time, it wasn't really a program that, like – you know, it wasn't, like, a top 25 consistently year after year. And the whole conversation I had with my coach, Jeff Cable, there was, like, you want to be a part of building something. And it means a lot. to do that. And so I sort of had that experience in college and I kind of went into the NBA sort of with the same mindset of like, hey, like, you know, let's try to turn this around. And like, I don't think I realized the history of the Clippers at the time, but, you know, we got we got lucky. You know, we had some great young players and Chris Paul came and that team, you know, started running. And I think that's one of the things that we're like very proud of to this day is like, you know, the Clippers still have their faults, but like they're not looked at in the same light, you know. And we felt like we were sort of like part of that team that sort of tried to change that, that, that, you know, that mindset of the Clippers. When it was you, CP, DeAndre Jordan, fucking dunking on everybody, every fucking game was a highlight reel. Like that shit, that shit made everybody Clipper fans, man. And it definitely boosted the stock. And then you get Steve Ballmer creating a new stadium for him. Like you could definitely tell that it started when you guys were rocking. Kind of rolling and in the hunt for it, man. Do you think you got treated differently by guys playing against you because you're number one pick? Like, do you think it had like a mark on you to be like, yeah, I'm going to show this guy what the NBA is like? I think a little bit, but, you know, like it is like, you know, the term like brotherhood gets thrown around a lot. And like, I think when we came in, it was like a little bit different. Like guys were, especially on the Clippers, like the Clippers was kind of a place that like guys went to at the end of their careers. They couldn't get a contract somewhere else. And like, they were just trying to make it. And so I didn't feel like it was like an environment where I was really like, you know, being like guys taking you under their wing and showing you the way. It was guys just trying to extend their careers and keep playing. And then that changed, you know, when Chris Paul came and then we had some great vets, you know, Chauncey Billups, Grant Hill. Like we had Lamar Odom, who was like just one of my favorite teammates, Jamal Crowley. So we sort of had that later on. But yeah, I mean, you definitely, I think you have a target on your back. It's like the number one pick. But like, I also had like a chip on my shoulder because I had to sit out my whole first year. You know, my first year I was hurt. And like, dude, I had to hear for an entire year. I had to hear about how the Clippers messed up another draft. And like, this guy was going to be a bust. And like, you know, I'm just sitting there like just steaming, just ready to, you know, so ready to like play that. Like when I finally did that next year, I was just like, was like, you know, no mercy. Just try to go dunk everything and try to just like play. As hard as you can. Then you came in and you went straight to the All-Star game, which is fucking. That's the Blake Griffin we all know. Was that the year that you you jumped into the dunk contest, too? Yeah. Yeah, that was my rookie year. So, I mean, I set out my whole first year. So that wasn't my rookie year. So the next one I came back, that was my rookie year. And then, yeah, I was like, got lucky, man. Made the All-Star game and got to do the dunk contest and checked off some hops. Everybody looks at the dunk contest like it just isn't what it was. Because it's you don't have the huge names that you typically saw. At least we saw growing up the superstars of the league. So did you feel that like had that always been a dream of yours? Or did you feel like you kind of owed that to the to the game or? Yeah, I mean, both. I definitely like I mean, I did. I would like I would record Vince Carter's dunk contest. Come on now, 97. Come on now. I recorded him. Dude, I mean, that was like my childhood. And that was like peak, you know, like watching the tapes of like Michael Jordan doing the dunk contest. And all these big names. Like it was like, yeah, I want to do that. But also like, yeah, I do think that like there's the reason why the dunk contest kind of is what it is. It's like guys just don't want to do it anymore. And which is kind of a shame because it's like, I don't know. It's like, have we built it up too much where guys don't want to go do it and fail? Or like, you know, for me, like to be in the 610, like 260, like dunk contests really aren't like my specialty. Like just dunking in game is more like my thing. Big guys. Like Dwight. Dwight did it three years, I think. And like, that was awesome. I thought that was great because like it's a big guy who, again, like not really his specialty. But like, we just need guys to do it. And like, we need the young guys to do it. We need the Anthony Edwards, the Zions. We need all those guys. Come on, Ant. Come on, Ant. Just go up there and just fucking. You don't got to do a whole 360 windmill between the legs. Like just go in there and just fucking. Just do something. Like the Aaron Gordon, Zach Levine dunk contest was incredible. It was one of the best dunk contests ever. And since then, it just, we haven't really had like the, you know, the names or like the. But I think that's what it is. Like, I think, you know, I say this as like somebody who's brought in a car. Like, you know, it doesn't have to be Timothy. But I don't know. I hope it gets back. Let's give a fan out of the stands the ability to try and block. The dunk so that we can just get posterized images. I don't fucking know. Yeah. Is this your, is this your, like, is this you trying to like get on the court? I want to be able to block. I want to see if I can block a dunk. Yeah. Just slam ball style. Like I've been training guys. I've been doing my quarter squats. I feel like it might happen. Put a force like a scale. So like see who can dunk the hardest. Like who can apply the most pounds per force. To the room. Yes. Who can shatter their skin on their fingers hardest. Yeah. We got to do something. So I don't know. I appreciate, I appreciate you throwing out these options, Jason. We want to educate our fans on basketball history. Big moments in the NBA. Can you explain the significance of this photo of a chair? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Remember like it was yesterday. High level real quick. DeAndre Jordan. Jordan is with us for years. Dallas tries to sign him away. Our boy CP was on Dallas at the time was part of the recruiting process. They got DJ to commit. And then so DeAndre was like, he had texted me. So he commits to them on like a Saturday call. He texts me on Sunday and he's like, what you think? And I'm like, what do you mean? What do I think? Like I'd already told him like, you know, happy for you. You know, you got to do what you got to do. And he's, I can tell he's having second thoughts. And so I can tell he's having second thoughts. So I get a phone call from Doc Rivers, our coach of like, Hey, I think we can get DJ back, but I need you to get on a plane and go to Houston where DeAndre's off season house was. And so I'm like, all right. So I'm texting DeAndre like, Hey, I'm coming in, go to his house. Spend like that night, you know, staying with him, making sure that like Mark Cuban can't come back in and convince him to sign. And everybody comes in the next day. Doc Rivers, JJ, Chris Paul, JJ Reddit, Chris Paul, um, and myself. And we're all in his house and we're like, you know, convince him like, Hey, like this is the place we want you here. Like we can do it. And, uh, he's like, all right, I'm in. And you can't sign the contract to make it official until like midnight that night. Okay. 11 PM because we were at Central Time. So we're just sitting in his house and NBA Twitter is going nuts. Just nuts. They're like, there's all the rumors flying around. Like what, what's happening? What's going on? People were saying that we held him hostage. So I'm like, all right, well, if we're going to be stuck here, I'm going to like, I'm going to start. So, you know, he'll put the chair under the door, take a picture, send it out. And like, it was the most nuts day on NBA Twitter. That's amazing. Dude. I mean, nobody, nobody wanted Lob City to break up, man. You guys were so fucking electric. Um, and I've heard through, through multiple sources. I mean, Joe Dumars was just talking, hyping DeAndre up not too long ago, talking about the type of teammate he is and how he's, he's one of the most veteran like leaders. And it's not just in front of the camera. It's like, he's just, he's just one of the best guys to have on, on your roster because of who he is. And, um, I already know you guys had fucking, uh, unbelievable time, but can you speak a little bit upon like, what, what is it that DeAndre really brought to the team in terms of that energy? Dude, he's like, I mean, you know, you see him now as like a vet and like, it's easier for vets to do that, but he was that for us when he was, you know, second, third, fourth year in the league. Like he's like a connector of people. Um, and not to mention he was just an absolute freak athlete. Like he, he was like, I don't know. He, I watch him like physically punk a lot of centers and just like, also never gets hurt. Like just like he, he's a, he's a monster, but like off the court, he's just one of those people that brings people together. He, he keeps everything light. He knows he has incredible like empathy and, uh, uh, EQ, like his emotional awareness is like off the charts where like, he sees somebody like, you know, not, not maybe having their best day or best game and he'll go put his arm around them. because he's built that relationship with each guy on the team. So I definitely, I saw the Joe Dumars quote and I was, uh, it's so true. I mean, he, he's like, and now at this point of his career, he's just pouring back into other guys and, and, um, being a mentor, but he was like, he was such an important piece for us, even when he was younger, you know, and in the prime of his career, um, just the type of person he is. You guys were unstoppable on the court, but I definitely was throwing fucking lobs left and right on 2k. God. There you go. Yeah, it was, it was good. We had a good run. Didn't, didn't quite meet the mountaintop, but, uh, yeah, it'll, it'll, it'll always haunt me. So thanks for bringing that up guys. No, no, no. It's all positive here, man. It's all positive. Wait, but hold on. What is like, what is the football equivalent of, is it just like trucking somebody like for a touchdown? There's a few. So getting Mossed is probably the closest equivalent, which is like the receiver jumping up over a DB to catch it. Right. Um, another version. On the defensive side is just absolutely lighten a motherfucker up. I think that's just, you can't, you don't want to get caught. Especially if you see him coming. Yeah. It's one thing if you don't see it coming. How tough is that in film? I mean, for me, if I get lit up, it's like, ah, you know, it's part of the gig, you know, especially if it happens to where I don't see it. Right. It happened in my first game. Honestly, I talk about it all the time. Bernard Pollard was like fucking back there, like trying to, he was a veteran at that point. So he was playing for Tennessee and he was like trying to like fake, whether he was in cover four, cover three, playing the middle field. And he kind of just like at the last second came like snuck down into the box. And the last time I looked at him, I was like, all right, cool. He's back. And when I caught the ball, I tried to catch it and like use my momentum to like get up field. And he fucking rocked me to the point where like, it's like, what the fuck is going on? What the fuck is going on? Oh shit. I don't have the ball anymore. And like, I just grab onto like the closest person to me to try and save them from getting to the ball. Yeah. And I watched that over like 10 times crying, laughing, like, God damn, that's a fucking welcome to the NFL moment. If I've ever fucking. Yeah, for sure. You got, you definitely have to like, you can't, you can't get salty about like getting dunked on or get, you gotta like embrace it. You can't be deleting your Twitter. You just gotta run with it. Right. You just gotta go. The worst is when you have just an awful play, but it's like a huge play that, you know, they're just going to, they're just going to replay forever. Like Landon Dickerson's first ever play in the NFL land is an unbelievable guard. He comes in at right guard. He hadn't played. It was his first play in the NFL halfway through the year. Cause his knee was all fucked up from college. Eric Armstead, just man Mountain Dean like bull rushes him and throws him on his back. And it was like one of the biggest plays of the year. And so now like for the last four years, you're just every time they install that concept, And Landon's just like, all right. Yeah. That's so tough. Like this is an iconic play that just won't go away. Your whole career. Yeah. Goddammit. This one again. Mine is every single time we play the chargers. I get everybody hitting me up on social media about when Derwin James suplexed me at the goal line. Literally. It was like, it was like a day. It was a poster. It was a dead play. It was like, Pat's like fucking scrambling back and forth. Did he have this fucking dialed up? Brandy, you sick son of a bitch. You got to do this again. I had already ran like three different routes. I had already run like three different routes. favorite power forward i mean he's the best power forward of all time the technician god damn it the bank is always open did you ever fucking hit a bank shot from like 20 feet out because that was like his patent move i'll tell you what i tried he made it look like it was easier like you had a better percentage if you went bank from anywhere on that angle yeah big fundamental uh that's my that's my gonna be my four and then i'm gonna go i'm gonna go shack just the most dominant player of all time at the four i mean the five o'neill i mean yeah that's you can't argue with that shit what's crazy is like i just had to like leave kobe off the list that is crazy if you're not doing it by like okay i need a point guard and all this like i would just go kobe mj lebron and then i would go tim duncan you know so um but i'm just you know i like to mix it up yeah all right i hear you sorry these i'm not really rapid firing these i'm giving a long drawn out explanation of everything we'll cut it up we'll cut it up it'll seem real fast I love stand-up man it's um it's like fascinating to me it's like a really fun challenge i just love comedy man i i love it so much and i'm working on a couple of things nothing i'm not really working on stand-up right now but i kind of always have i keep like a notes folder of jokes so i'm like kind of always like writing jokes if like i think of something i don't know what i'm gonna do with it but maybe someday it'd be pretty cool to have like a special at one point fuck yes i don't know i don't know we'll see is that have you all right so you've just kind of like tested the waters of the stand-up world yeah i've done like i wouldn't hosted this show at this big comedy festival i think for the first time and then i've done stuff here and there i did like a roast a comedy central roast um which is all like really fun but my thing about stand-up too is like i don't want to go to like the comedy store and like ask for time and then somebody gets bumped like some guy who's like grinding trying to make it like sure you know sure but i do love it um so i'm working on some some projects right now that are like comedy based and you know we'll see see how those go give me give me a top three comics of all time for me chapelle is like uh like because it was just like my era you know like we do we were like we were in high school like when chapelle was like that first episode i will never forget going into the school the next day after clayton bigsby made its television debut oh my gosh dude if you like didn't watch the show like that wednesday night on thursday like you weren't involved in conversations it's true it's so true i'm rick james bitch chapelle is like definitely my definitely my top three i gotta i have to go like uh eddie murphy oh okay taking it back nice leather the leather uh tracksuit or jumpsuit yeah delirious eddie murphy delirious can't say that that guy's canceled comedians are they're walking a fine line usually yeah yeah for sure you know you know i love now like i like maybe probably you can't really put him in a top three but right now like dude shane gillis is just everything he touches man he's probably one of my favorites if not all-time dog every single time i see that dude on screen i am fucking dying laughing yeah dude and it does like it could be like just him a podcast clip of him just talking like he's just and it's just he's always had something yeah it's it's it's really incredible so i hope he keeps going on that trajectory um so i'll go with those three i'll probably get some flack for shane being in the top three at this point in his career but he's on his way 100 especially with tyrus all right let's get into our last question we always ask everybody what was their welcome uh to their profession moment so what was your welcome to nba moment for you oh man um i'd say my the first time i played against kobe you know i'm like so hyped up and jump before the jump ball he's like hey what's up young bill like congratulations i'm like man are me and kobe boys there's a chance we hang out after this so and i'm sitting like you know this is like maybe second quarter i'm setting like this pin down screen and so from uh from my teammate and he's guarding him kobe's guarding him and he's coming off and like kobe's just like we talked he's a just a competitor and he comes off that screen so hard and he's like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm and just catches me in the stomach harder than i've ever been hit in the stomach in my life i'm just like doubled over and just like breathing i'm like you know what maybe we're not he was a lot nicer before than he is now but it was like a good reminder of like it was like kind of like that welcome the nba was like no you you can say hello before the game but you know that that jump ball happens like it's it's all about war hell yeah man and he was like the you know he was like maybe one of the last great guys who like it was like cool before the game cool after the game during the game fuck you you're the enemy you know what i mean i love that i just think it's great because it's no hard feelings it's like we're we're competing ultimate competitive man and you definitely had that too brother blake thank you so much for the story dog thank you for the time uh one of my all-time favorites on the court dog and i've honestly ever since we got to hang dog just the fucking best man it's always fucking laughs through the fucking roof and uh can't wait to see how uh the the rest of the amazon stuff goes for you these playoffs uh we'll be watching brother i appreciate you guys thanks for having me man thank you to blake griffin that conversation was once again brought to you by reese's or as travis and i call it reese's he is the best i mean fucking hilarious it's fun going down memory lane with the big guy man smart as hell also funny as fuck can chop it up can goof be a goofball he is jack of all trades man was an incredible player but he is made for doing tv and entertainment i forgot to ask him about how why is he so good at commercials i forgot to fucking ask him man he is literally one of the best best commercial like athletes in the endorsements commercials wise bro god damn it oh well i have to ask him in person next time i see him he's got the it factor he's nobody's saying he's overexposed nobody was yelling at him for going nobody's yelling he's just got it he's just got these kelsey's off my fucking screen god damn it all right that wraps up another episode of new heights thank you to blake griffin also there are still tickets available for our new heights live show in la on june 15th let's go check out the link in the description let's go make sure you subscribe to new heights channel on youtube or wherever you get your podcasts once again new heights of wonder show brought to you by xfinity follow the show on all social media at new heights show with fun ask for fun clips throughout the week we're gonna have a bunch with our guy blake thank you to new heights production team thank you to the 92 percenters for tuning in we'll see you guys next week baby peace this is this is the first day i just want to preface this is the first day of basketball in 20 years oh i'm gonna tear my acl trying to do this anymore all right that's good enough that's him for today that's it for today oh full disclosure that's a nine foot rim that's okay this is pre-quarter squad i'm telling you if i show you some later clips i think i'll vouch i'll vouch it did get better after this yes he i told him i was like bro you're like gathering steps just you look like a fucking idiot you look like an offensive lineman we gotta get your technique down go watch some blake griffin highlights watch how he gathers we got it's all about the approach and the last two steps and then there we go gotta work on those hands too maybe we gotta maybe we can space them out you got spacers jason i was spraying uh tough skin the stuff they put on your ankles before they take them out i will say this jason's only working with four fucking fingers he fucking snapped it one of them is not great yeah that's oh yeah that doesn't help god that was fucking hilarious dude i hadn't seen that first clip in a minute we got some work to do but we'll get you there