New York Sees Red

Sometimes you want to hear directly from the people at the center of the story. On MPR's newsmakers, they go face to face with the people shaping this moment. Here MPR's biggest interviews featuring guests like Dave Chappelle, Jill Biden, and Zora Mamdani, hopefully not at the same time. With questions that matter and a push for real answers, follow newsmakers wherever you listen to podcasts or watch on YouTube. Welcome to Love Relieve It Line from Hollywood. I'm John Loveitt, and in the spirit of socialism, thank you for waiting in line to hear these free jokes. We've got a great show for you tonight, but first let's get into it. What a week. New York City voters went to the polls on Tuesday, and the three left-wing candidates endorsed by Mayor Zora Mamdani swept their races, with two toppling establishment backed incumbents. Viva la revolution shouted Senator Chuck Schumer in a cafe trying to blend in. Former city controller and mayoral candidate Brad Lander beat incumbent Congressman Dan Goldman in the city's 10th district. The most hard-fought battle between two Jewish men in their 50s since every time the check comes. Lander described the Warren Gaza as a genocide, and called for banning military aid for Israel while Goldman, who lost by more than 30 points, has been very critical of Netanyahu while opposing an outright ban and accepting support from APAC. Goldman attributed his loss to anti-Semitism, but Brad Lander is also Jewish, and New York's 10th district is one of the most Jewish in the country. That dog don't hunt. That could filter. It don't fish. Here's Lander on Wednesday on where he thinks the Democratic establishment went wrong. We can't be a party that compromises on some people's humanity. Democratic voters are saying loud and clear they don't want to pay for any more of Netanyahu's wars, and they need that change in the party. So first of all, I don't think you can blame that guy winning on anti-Semitism if he came across any more Jewish. I think bagels would be literally falling out of his mouth. I'm Jewish. If you don't not that familiar with the show, there's the safety of me being Jewish to make these kinds of jokes. You can feel comfortable laughing even if you're not Jewish and not familiar. I give you that permission, which I'm allowed to do, according to the laws of Woke 2.0, which are actually different than the laws of Woke 0, in which I could not give you that permission, and me making these jokes would have been a trap. This immediately began an epic freak out. On Tuesday night, President Bush's former press secretary, Ari Fleisher, tweeted, "Free advice to New Yorkers, get out while you still can. The rise of socialism and NYC will threaten everyone. Mondani's power will increase, socialists will gain more seats, and they're coming next for you. Get out now." And to all the fleeing New Yorkers, we welcome you to Los Angeles, less socialism, yeah. And as of this morning, we finally extinguished the massive warehouse fire that was blanketing the region and smoke. Great news, everybody. It has been one day since our city was on fire. In the wee, yeah. That's what we're applauding now. God, we gotta get it together in LA. In the wee hours on Wednesday morning, Trump posted, "America the Beautiful will never be a communist country." Yeah. America were communist, the next thing you know, the state would be blaming sabotage for its own incompetence and allowing corrupt insiders to buy contracts and pardons and using state-run media to smear their enemies and nationalizing important companies and censoring the free press and putting political hacks in charge of intelligence agencies and using the Justice Department to target political opponents and refusing to enforce the law against their friends. And we can't have that. That would be terrible. It is true that one of the winning democratic socialists, Dar Elisa Avila-Shavallier, has said some really dumb stuff. So as main Senate nominee, Graham Platner. In both cases, voters chose these candidates over long-serving, well-known political figures in their 70s. So if you're worried that voters chose candidates that you view as unacceptable, maybe it's worth asking why the establishment candidates are viewed as even less acceptable. Even dominoes, owned up to the fact that their pizza needed work, establishment Democrats should look inward and ask, "Are we arriving cold?" Is our cheese congealed, and when you pull off a slice, the cheese from the neighboring slice comes with. So you have to kind of rip it apart with your fingers, which sucks. Are we even delivering it all? Former DNC chair, Jamie Harrison, posted, "If you hate the Democratic Party, then don't run for our nomination." But isn't there a word for someone who hates the Democratic Party, but runs as a Democrat anyway? I remember it now. The word is Democrat. Here's James Carville. It's time for Democrats to talk the S word, schism. I really do. Everybody's always said, "No, no, we'll coalition, we'll big tent." And there's just some shit that I can't be in the sign camp. Okay. You can say the S word, then say the S word is schism, and then say shit. So help him, God. He will turn this Carville around. Agent Cajun, more like Agent Cajun. Look, Izoram Umdani, not supposed to boost his allies and try to build power in order to enact his agenda. Isn't that the entire point of politics? Do you think he should just fuck off at five and veg out watching the hit procedural LSBath? Sure. I would prefer it if my settlers of Katana Ponents didn't build settlements in cities. But I would probably dislike them even more if they didn't try. At the same time, the more power the DSA gains, the more responsibility this movement has. Avela Shevalier took heat for old social media posts in which she called for abolishing police in prisons called Joe Biden-Arapas, said fuck Kamala Harris and denied Israel's existence. She also once tweeted that white people should only marry other white people, so don't say she's not capable across the aisle. But Avela Shevalier deleted and disavowed some of her most incendiary posts saying, "I have grown considerably in the years since these tweets." And that post ended with, "I, like Stalin, am just misunderstood, but she has since apologized and deleted that as well." I'm glad she's walked back her worst comments in the same way I'm glad Graham Plattener has apologized for the mistakes he made. And as a token of my appreciation, I will walk back one of my own dumb comments. In hindsight, Trump is going to win in 2016. Does it mean you have to like these people? No. Does it mean you can't be critical when you disagree, of course not. But this is a democracy, and nobody gets to take their ball and go home. It was wrong when a faction of the left refused to support Kamala Harris in 2024. Yes, the anger was rooted in moral outrage over the Biden administration's response to Gaza. But the anger being valid does not make ignoring the stakes of an election righteous. You can feel something and then choose how you respond to that feeling. That's something I learned in therapy back when I still needed that. There are some on the left who are more animated by attacking Democrats than working with them to defeat Republicans. And there are centrists like James Carville and Jamie Harrison who seem willing to help Republicans use three socialists and three of the most liberal districts in the country to suggest it represents the entire Democratic Party. And I say to all of them what I say to people who bring both small dogs and big dogs into the grocery store, shame on all of you equally. But sometimes I do it and when I do it it's fine. This is a coalition that runs from anti-Trump former Republicans to Mamdani, from Pennsylvania, Governor Josh Shapiro, to Vermont Independent Bernie Sanders. And that's what it will take. The answer to right wing authoritarianism is a diverse democratic movement big enough to stop it. And if holding that coalition together we're easy, we all be home by now watching Elzbeth Thursdays on CBS. Which is why I'm going to ask you all to immediately go to VotesaveAmerica.com and sign up to help win the midterms because look at what we've seen just this week in a 6-3 decision. The Supreme Court's conservative majority allowed Trump to end the temporary protected status program for Haitians and Syrians, which allowed people fleeing violence and natural disasters to live and work in the United States. See, I told you what we were doing was right, said an ICE officer to his ex-wife before her new husband walked him back to his car and reminded him kindly, but firmly that he's only supposed to stop by the house on Fridays to pick up the kits. Justice Samuel Alito, writing for the majority, rejected claims that the administration's decision had anything to do with racism towards Haitians. We now go to Trump for a response. They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats. Why do we want these people, from quote, "all these shithole countries" here? I still don't hear it, said Samuel Alito, getting ready to unwind by watching the latest episode of "Elzbeth." It's a show for everybody. In another decision, a 7-2 majority rejected the lawsuit of a Missouri man who claimed that the weed killer roundup caused his cancer. The two justices who dissented, liberal Katanjee Brown Jackson, and conservative Neil Gorsuch. Weird day on the bench. It's like when I got paired with that popular girl in science class, and you know what? We actually had a fun time and laughed a lot, and then later I saw her in the lunchroom and I thought she was waving at me, but she was waving at somebody behind me. The jury awarded John Dernel, a gardener in St. Louis, who developed non-Hunch, Kinslan FOMA, a $1.25 million award, which the Supreme Court but has now overturned. Okay, but what have I already spent the money?" said Dernel, trying to cover up a pile of lobster shells in the passenger footwell of his G-Wagon. Brett Kavanaugh, writing for the majority, said that the jury couldn't punish Monsanto for failing to warn consumers because a warning label would conflict with the Trump administration's finding that Roundup is safe. Studies have shown a link between Roundup's active ingredient glyphosate and cancer, and I will continue to trust our scientists until they tell me to stop drinking Diet Coke, at which point I'll completely break. 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Helixleap.com/loveit. (upbeat music) And we're back. (audience cheering) The one and only John Stamos will be out in just a moment. But first, a huge thank you to our friends of the pod. If you're not yet a subscriber, consider this your midterm reminder. As a subscriber, you get a discounted ticket to CrookedCon. You get ad-free episodes of all your favorite pods. You unlock more PodSave America, including PodSave America, only friends, which is our subscription-only show where we really let loose. You get the open tabs newsletter, you get Dan Feiffer's show, Polar Coaster where you get a deep dive into the latest polling, yet ad-free breaking news. Plus, your subscription helps support a growing pro-democracy media company working to challenge the right online and get good information to people. So please go to CrookedCon/Friends to learn more and sign up also. If you are on L.A., you can still get tickets at CrookedCon/Events to check out our new space and upcoming guests, including comedians, Margaret Cho, Langston, Kerman, and Dana Gould. Plus, we have the first Gen Z member of Congress Maxwell Frost joining us. Go to Crooked.com/Events. (audience clapping) All right, please welcome to the stage. It's America's hot ass uncle. It's John Stamos. (audience cheering) Hi, thank you for being here. Come on in. (audience clapping) How does that make me feel, doc? Oh, you wanted to do some therapy? Yeah, go ahead. I bet you're a good therapist. So where did we leave off? Well, I was gonna. (laughing) So you didn't expect that, that was tough. That's good, that's good. Did they ask where we left off? You should know. Sometimes if they're bad. Oh. (laughing) Hi, John. Hi, I'm so impressed with you. You are a young man who's accomplished so much and you're just extremely impressive. I'm happy to meet you and I'll be on your show. That's nice. You can clap. Wow. (audience clapping) Do you know? This is a good audience. They're great. Because you were laying out some sophisticated jokes and they were laughing really hard. It's a sophisticated crowd. I could tell. They're good looking too. I could tell they can have handsome, nice looking. I felt they could handle it. So do you feel like you were. Was a. Look, I think not many people get to have the experience of being a classic '80s, '90s heartthrob. That was a very special time. It was a, it was a special time in the culture. And I wonder if you've like thought like. First of all, do you have any specific, surprising experiences of being a heartthrob? And was it ever like, look, obviously, I think there's a lot of people that would, I don't know, drive a car through their family's home to get to be a heartthrob? But were there like, they didn't make it hard at times. Being like, you were like tagged. It's like, no, he's too good looking to play that kind of lawyer. Right, right, right. Well, it's, I always hate good looking people. It's like, oh, I was too good looking to get work and stuff. I plowed through everything. And, you know, like, full house was, I'm just kind of coming around to really understanding why people love it. I have an eight-year-old son and he watches it. I think he watches it to mock me basically. Because he'll be like, Billy, put away your leg. I was just like, you got it, dude. He's giving me catchphrase, sorry. But the, you know, there were no main character. The main character on that show was love in it. So, but it took me many, many, many years to accept it. And I've been able to do Broadway. And, you know, I've been on, I was on ER for years. I don't listen to my stuff. But I've got to do, you know, stuff that, you know, wasn't really based on looks or that kind of thing. Did I answer your question, Doc? Do you feel like full house? You said, like, it took a while to embrace it. Did you struggle with that? Did you feel like it wasn't what you wanted? What do you mean? It wasn't what I wanted to, per se, when I was doing it. But then I came around to it after a year or two. I realized, you know, this is really beautiful show and it's good for families. But then it was tough, you know, the guy from Full House. It was hard to get work that I wanted to do. So it took me a while, but I'm just grateful I got to do so many things since then. But it's, it was a blessing. My whole life has been a blessing. I'm leading with gratitude these days because I can't, you know, in a blink of an eye, you're, thank you. [APPLAUSE] In a blink of an eye, you're old, you know, you're not there yet. But you're just going, what happened? It just goes by so fast. Like every moment you have to, I don't want to sound like Oprah or something, but you really have to like enjoy every moment and be in the moment, like be here with you right now. It's difficult, but it's, you know, it's worth it because at the end of the day, I can go, I was really there for the audience today. I was really connected to John, and I had a good day, you know? It's important to be present. It's hard, though. It takes energy, doesn't it? Yes. I can be present here, but rarely in other places. Right. Do you have ADD? Like, 100%. Yeah. Oh, it's a terminal case. Yeah, they put, yeah, they study me at night. They want, they want, you're a scientist. Who is the scientist? They study my brain. They're like, wow, this is an archetypal. We should cut this brain up when he's done with it. But I think people with real good ADD are brilliant. And I think it's an asset, and not a good, because you're bouncing around and thinking of ideas. But, you know, it's good to focus, and you seem focused now. Now I'll stay. But I'm also on Adderall. But the, oh boy, the Adderall really makes a difference. Does it make you calm you down? That's the thing that's crazy. I know I have it, because it brings me down. I mean, obviously I have an amped energy, but that's biological. I'm always like this. But when I take the, what's, if, like, it's a drug that's an upper, when I take it, I kind of lock into the mechanism and calm down. So you need it. I do need it. You're a good candidate. Well, because when I used to write speeches, I would wait until the last possible moment, where if I don't start right now, I'm going to be in trouble. And this is for, like, the president of the United States. I literally am procrastinating as to the last possible moment and right when I should be filled with an unadulterated level of panic. This is a speech about the economy during a financial crisis across the globe. I'll take a 10 to 15 minute nap. You got to conk out at the worst moment. Then you get up and boy are you in trouble. And then I would write through the night. I write through the night. What was your favorite speech that you wrote? Oh. Well, you know, I-- You're so young to be writing a speech. You're honestly by these powerful people that are saying your words. What does that feel like? So, let me interview you for one. You didn't interview me. Sure. I would say this. If you saw, if we could see what I would look like without the hair transplants and the various-- You don't have a hair. Come on. Three of them. Do you really? Three of them? Did you go to Turkey? No. Oh. You go to Turkey? I won't let it someone cut me in a place I can't sue. OK, right, right, right, right. I've had four. You've had four? No. This is the court. This is natural. But you're unbelievable. Now, I would never guess that you had hair transplants. No, I went through a good guy. Did it hurt? Yeah. OK. But why did you have three to mess it up the first two times? No, because you keep losing. You know what I mean? It's like, did they take it from your pubic hair? It's like, what does it work? They're working their way. I mean, no, no, thank you for asking. No, they take it from the back of the head and the asshole. OK. No, just the back of that. Just the back of that. This is just your hair. Your hair does smell. You just get to have this hair. Yeah, thanks a lot. This is just your hair line. - To my gratitude, I'm so grateful. - Yeah, it should be great. - My spirit animals, Jamie Lee Curtis, and every morning we write what we're grateful for, what we're fearful of, and like an attribute or something like a lover or everything. - Oh, that's so nice. I do think if a good-looking person is not grateful to really ugly, it's ugly. - Yeah, maybe it should. - 'Cause look what you were given. That hairline is crazy. That's crazy. - I don't think about it. - You should. - Okay. - You should think about it. - I'm gonna start thinking about it now. You're gonna wake up and God, I'm handsome. Come on, you must. That's crazy. - No. - You're like you'd never do. - Sometimes. (audience laughing) I think you should. (audience applauding) I love you, you're really great. Thank you. - I mean, I was flattered that you asked me to be on here, and I watched you and I listened to you on the other podcast, and you're just, and I just sort of did a deep dive on you. I'm just fascinated by you. - What the heck? (audience laughing) - What the heck is happening? Stop churning me, John Stamos. I'll run this. This is my show. These are my microphones. (audience laughing) That's something Reagan said in a debate once. Okay, so you're playing the July 4th fireworks we're having with the Beach Boys. - That's right, yes. - And you're a drummer. - Yes, I am. - You know, Kai, that's so cool. (audience applauding) One of the greatest thrills of my life to play with. They're my, you know, they were always my favorite, who's your all-time favorite band? - Quick. - At the Beach Boys. - Probably. - Come on. - What would my favorite bands. - Beatles, the stone. - Beatles are great, rolling stones are great. I saw them in a concert once. Yeah, they're great. I'm really more of a book guy. - Will you come to a concert sometime? - With love, too. - Okay. - With love, too. Paul McCartney said God only knows from pet sounds is the greatest song ever written. Do you agree with me that it's Barbara Ann? (laughing) - No, I think he was right. That's a perfect song. - Perfect song. - And you know, like, I've been playing with the Beach Boys for 40 years now since before, you know, what year were you born? - I was born in 1982. - Yeah, so about three years after you were born, I started. - That's crazy. - And the world needs the music more than ever now. The optimism, the positivity. You know, in the '60s, they were writing songs that, you know, they were dispainting this tableau of optimism and camelot and wouldn't it be nice and fun, fun, fun, and the whole world, you remember, wanted to be us around that time because they believed in this thing that the Beach Boys were putting out. Not so much anymore, but still we're doing it and the crowds are great. And, you know, I always say discord is at an all-time high and decency at an all-time low. But when you, you know, have the Beach Boy music, you know, to bring people together and it doesn't matter what side of the fence you're on, how old you are, whatever it is, I've seen it for so many years now. It's just a proud go crazy for the band. - I think, like, when I was a kid, I remember thinking, oh, like, the Beatles are the serious band and the Beach Boys are like silly and light. And then at some point, I learned, like, no, what's happening in pet sounds is in shockingly technical and actually it was like an obsession in part because of the competition with the Beatles. Do you ever talk to the band about that? - Yeah, we talk about it sometimes. I know that, you know, the Beatles heard pet sounds and then they did Sergeant Pepper after that. But Brian Wilson was obsessed with the Beatles as well. The Beatles heard, I think Bruce Johnston, the band, took an acetate of pet sounds over to their hotel and played it for them and they flipped out, you know. - In '80s, everyone prayed that they too could be raised by three hilarious kind dads and a huge house in San Francisco instead of your dumb real house with your dumb actual family. But John Samos, you've had an incredible career across so many different shows and films, which is why we're going to play a classic "Left or Leave a Game," which is, was I in this? - Okay. - And here's how it works. (audience applauds) We are going to ask trivia questions about your career. If you think you know the answer, you can raise your hand and we'll bring you the mic to reply. I don't remind you, this is an excuse to talk to John Samos. All right, so here are the questions for you. This is your set of questions and I'll read the ones that say, "Love it," and you'll read the ones that say, "John." - Okay. - Does someone here want to face the gauntlet of a trivia question? - Oh, even before you hear it. Okay, come on, you-- - No, the poem is going to come to the-- the poem is going to bring the mic to the-- - I'm running a show now. - Okay. John Samos is-- - Look at that. (audience applauds) - Stand up. - Can you look at the shirt she's wearing? - Oh, look at that. Oh, we have a juggle, Jesse shirt. - That's so cool, look at that. - Go ahead. - What's your name? - Christine. - Christine, John Samos' first role was Blacky Parish on the legendary soap opera General Hospital in 1982, true or false. That's correct. (audience applauds) - Look at that, this is very sweet. This is very sweet. - She won't let go. What did she say? - She's not letting go. - She's not gonna let go. - We'll get the security. - Can we go to commercial? - Yeah. - Shut it down, shut it down. (audience laughs) - Now, you were gonna enter your first semester of college, but you said fuck it, right? Now I'm talking to you now. - Oh, yeah. - Samos. - Well, I tried. I couldn't find the sign up room for college. I know you smart guys can find that, but I didn't and so-- My dad really wanted me to go to college and take over his hamburger business. I worked in his hamburger joint. In fact, that got on General Hospital and he still made me work on Sundays. And so when I called home, I said, I got this role into our hospital. You could hear my dad in the back and gone, tell me you can't work on Sundays. You're my Sunday guy. - And I still worked during the week and the show started to air and people would come and say, hey, aren't you, no, give me a cheeseburger or anything. So yeah, so I didn't go to college, but I thought I got to become famous. So I did. - Smart. Smart. You did it. - It was General Hospital good training. It seems so intense that you don't get to go back. You don't get a lot of takes. You have to go and get your shooting so much. - Like this show? - Yeah. Yeah, this show is a lot like a soap opera. - Yeah, it's like a soap opera. I think soap opera actors would think that it's insulting to say it was a training ground, but it was. There's some great actor. I work with Tony Geary quite a bit who played Luke. And I learned so much from him. So there's this great actor's on there. It was a lot. I had like 20, 30 pages a day, but I just loved it 'cause it was my first job. And I just, you know, it was so. - Yeah, I don't mean it. No, I can see how that could be like kind of a chart. But I mean, like just as far as going onto other sets, like these are sets where you have to know your shit, you have to show up every day, you gotta be ready. You don't get the luxury of getting to learn it as you're doing it. You have to be there and ready. Like, you know, that seems like a cool thing about it. - I think a lot, I learned a lot of discipline from that show showing up on time and being nice to people. My dad kept me working there and my dad was a guy who would treat the bus boy the same way he would treat his best customer. And he really was that kind of man. And I loved him so much. He was my hero. He passed away. You know, when kids think their parents are heroes and then eventually they're like, oh, he's just a man. Like I never got to that phase. My dad was always cooler and bigger than life to me. And so he came around the set and saw me talking to a crew guy and said, okay, you're ready. I'll let you quit. You go to work. That's cool. That's a nice story. Thank you. Then who wants to go next? What's your name? - Racial. - Racial. - Racial. - That's a good one. Do you want to do the next question? It's on next week. - Okay. - Next week. - I appeared in the 1980 music video for the Beach Boys helped me Rhonda live at Nebworth, where you could see me briefly dancing offstage. Is that true or false? - True. - It's false. (buzzer) - Okay, yeah. - Yeah. - It was Kokomo. - It was Kokomo. Do you have a clip? - No. - That's not me. - We're getting. - Wait. That's not me. - There he is. Whoa. Just a flash. Look at that point you got. - It's so funny. Because it sort of looks like he's hitting on me. Like, I'm playing like an artist. And I kind of look at him, like, in a sexy way. And he's like, hey. - Who? - Who wasn't hitting on you in that era? - Well, I played the drum set. I was in the Williams College steel pan band. - Oh, really? - With all the Jamaican students. But I didn't play the steel pan. I played the music. With all the Jamaican students. I played the drum kit with the steel pan band. - Wow. - So you must have been pretty good. - I was fine. - I think you should show up and sit in with us one day. - Okay. That's a yes. - Yeah. - Maybe not at the Hollywood Bowl. - No, I think we should start smaller. - Somewhere. - Somewhere smaller than the Hollywood Bowl. - Were you around, you know, the Beach Boys played for the 4th of July every year at the Washington Monument. And for 750,000 people or something like that. That was one of the first times I played with them in '85. - That's cool. - Yeah, it was, the monument was nice then. - I was though. - Yeah. - It was, it was, the monument's the same. - Oh, exactly. - The monument's the same. The algae hasn't gotten to the monument yet. - Right. - The monument. - Boy, it'll be sad to see when the algae takes the monument. - That'll be a bad thing. - Yeah. - I think, I wish you guys, I don't want to get political because I get in trouble. But, you know, but will you guys put out a video, I need you to put a video out of just the facts. No, don't make jokes about it. Don't bullshit about it. - Okay. - Show video of him. Show facts. Real facts. Show price. Gas prices. Take pictures of gas stations. If you have to go grocery stores. If you have to. But make it so undeniably true. Don't fuck around with jokes. And no opinion about it. You know what I'm saying? - Yes sir. - So I can show my sister. - Okay. - And the Republicans and my family and friends. - Let's edit the jokes out of this episode and get it to John Samos' sister. But, you know what I'm saying? - I know what you mean. - You know, the far right is not going to watch you or listen to you or Kimmel or Seth or any of this. Or these broadcasters or these great guys on David Pakman is one of my favorite. You know, they're not getting to the people that need to see this. Do you think? - I think that. Yes, I think it is hard to get good information in front of people. I think sometimes we overestimate the ways in which the problem is the facts that are getting to people and underestimate the importance of people deciding they want to see the facts. There's no amount of, I think the deeper problem right is there are a lot of people that aren't really receptive to the facts because there's a deeper truth that we haven't gotten to them yet is how I sometimes feel about it because the problem right now is not that people don't know who Donald Trump is. I think that there's something else going on. Would be my feeling about it, but I don't think the video is a bad idea. I think we should still do it. Okay, let's do it. I can't stop looking at your hair. I mean, it's fantastic. They did a great job. Yeah. I think it's easier with curly hair. It is because you put the curls in front. You can mess it up. There's more room for error for sure. There's more room for error. Have you had any other surgery? I had my ears pinned back. You did? No, when I was a little kid. Yeah, they were super out. Like a taxi cab with the doors open? Yeah, basically. Yeah, like Dumbo, basically. They were real Dumbo. They were big ears. They were big and they were ouch. They were right. They were out. How do they pit? Let me see. You can see the skar in the back. You can see. How do they do that? They cut it open and they make the fold that wasn't given to me by the, by the code. How old were you? They were like 12. Wow. Okay. And back they went. I don't know why we waited till right after the kids stopped making fun of me, but that's when we did it. Like, hey, you know what a great time to do? That was six, seven. No, let's wait till I'm there. But where you barbed bits, but did you? Yeah. Okay. So they're out in there. The, the, the years were there for the bar mitzvah. They were. I think it was after the bar mitzvah. So you were a beer that's the teen. Yeah, it was the teen. You're right. I was 13. Do I have to fact check for it? No, you're right. I need that fact. This is what the problem is. The fact. Don't get the facts. Just no opinions. Just give them a straight dope. Right. No joke. The raw data. The ear date. The ears were out. They were out. Yeah. That's, I'm sorry. But it was okay. It was great. It was good. Yeah. I think it was the right thing to do though. Maybe it was my calling card. You know, it'd been like, oh, you know, that guy with the ears. No, you don't want that. No, I was a good, I collect Disney stuff as I said earlier and I have a dumb-o in my living room. Mm-hmm. Wow. But their ears are worse than you. Yeah, for sure. No, famously. Yeah. I don't, I think I'd hit terminal velocity if I jumped off of that diving board. And I, you know what I mean? I don't think I would just swoop up right now. I don't think it could swoop up. Let's do one more right there. Paloma. Hi, what's your name? Max. Max. I'm Max. So nice to meet you. Max, I love your energy. I can. Max. What about my honor? We do have chemistry. Oh, really? Oh, sorry. You're supposed to ask the question. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna ask this one. Stererogate Max. Like, you know, John Stamos starred on Broadway in Gorvidol's The Best Man Along James, alongside James Earl Jones. True or false? True? That is true. I talked to James about perception. This is a heavy-duty political. Do you know that show that Gorvidol play? I don't know. Oh, you would love it. It should be out now. But it was a three-hour heavy drama. And here I am toe-to-toe with one of the greatest actors ever, James Earl Jones. And we finished it. And I called him Big Daddy. He said, "Big Daddy, I'm gonna tell you." Yes, little John. I said, "You have changed people's perception of me. You've made me really legitimize me. Here I am with you on Broadway, you know, with the greatest actor. I think people really see me in a different way. And you really changed people's opinion of me as we're walking. Open the stage door and there's a bunch of people out there. Uncle Jesse, Uncle Jesse. Say, "Have mercy." And I couldn't look at him. I was like, "Oh my God, everything I just said." And I finally, I kind of looked up a little bit and I could see someone talking to him going, "James, could you say, Luke, I am your father into my phone for your thing?" And we looked at each other and said, "Fuck it. Fuck it. What are we gonna do? People love these characters. Let's embrace it, you know?" 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Wigovie is the registered trademark of Novo Nordisk AS to get started and learn more including important safety information. We go v clinical study information and restrictions visit hymns.com and we're back. She's an actress, a model. She might be able to help us understand Tron. It's the incredible Jody Turner Smith. Hi. Welcome. Thank you, sideways. Thank you. Thank you for being here. Hi, hi. Hi, no, you got to go to John Stamos. You can't. Yeah, come on. I was going to wear that outfit and we're matching. Oh, yeah, yeah. Listen, so there was a memo. I think we're, are we robbers, bank robbers? Who's driving the getaway car? It's like I'm not even fucking here. Hi, nice to meet you. Hi. So you're in the agency with Michael Fassbender, Richard Gear and Jeffrey Wright. But you're in a relationship with Michael Fassbender's character in the series. What's the most annoying thing about Michael Fassbender in real life? How do we take this guy down a peg? You know what's so annoying is that he's actually so fucking cool. That sucks. Don't you hate it when you meet these sort of handsome guys that get so much plot. It's for being good looking and they're actually charming and personable. Don't you find that frustrating? You know what? Actually, no, because you know what? No, because I'm not a hater and you know what, I love that. I love that because what's more annoying is like these charming handsome guys and they're like pieces of shit. Like I much prefer like a charming handsome guy and he's actually like charming handsome, completely unserious, so fun to work with. I'm right here. John, call your agents and tell them that you want us to watch together. I can talk about you like this. But no, he's, you know, Michael is actually like really wonderful and and also just like he's just there's no there's no fucking frills. He's just like real. He's down to earth. I really love that. He's Irish. We love the Irish. What a weird reaction from this side. They're like, was that sympathy or the exact strange like you're like the Queens guard or something? All right, so you filmed in Morocco this season. What was your Morocco experience like? Oh my god, I love Morocco. What's crazy is the year prior I had been in Morocco. I went to Marrakesh for the first time and when I was there I was just like I'm manifesting shooting in Morocco and then agency season two they were like we're shooting in Tanger and Rabat and it was it was magical and it was amazing too because it's like you know sometimes you do something in your own location for like a second but we were literally out there for like a month and it was so nice. I loved it. I love Morocco. That's so cool. You have to speak different languages on the show though and didn't you have to speak Arabic? Is that right? Yes. That seems how did you how did you figure it? What how do you do that? How did you have to learn to speak the language? How do you do that? Listen, you know Arabic is first of all it's I think one of the most beautiful languages in all of existence and also the most yeah and also the best poetry, the most late poetry. It's just it's so romantic and amazing and and difficult it's like obviously I mean you're never going to sound like a native speaker when you're not a native speaker it's just you know you can't fake it so I was like how can we help me get as close to the market as possible and you know I'm actually really grateful that you know production you know these producers you know they're really invested in us because I can't tell you I mean I'm always asked to do an accent and I can't tell you how many times like all the accent work has just been me coming out of my own pocket because I really care about it feeling authentic and sounding authentic and like honoring that culture like I'm Jamaican any Jamaicans in the audience? no we're in kind of point wait I told you somewhere oh yeah Susette my hair stylist ah god but you know I as a Jamaican like I'm always seeing you know people doing like Jamaican accents and I'm like who was on set for that was there anybody there like what's going on and it's because like nine times out of ten there is not anybody there because unfortunately like audiences, Western audiences there will just be like just whatever sounds good to us and when you're native it's it doesn't sound good to you and so I always strive to just like how can I get at least as close to the market as possible and you know one-on-one David Glasser you know he was like as soon as you know we had our season two renewal like basically almost immediately and as soon as we had it he was like 100% you can get lessons so I was doing Arabic dialect lessons at the same time because you know it's when you're doing another language it's you know there's so many differences in nuances but also it's like just where the words sit in your mouth is completely different and I wanted to make it so that at least when I'm on set you know I'm not spending all this time just trying to work on how to say the words like I was in season one I can be more about just like what the story is because I've been practicing on how to say things and where everything is supposed to sit and having that comfortability with speaking the words John Stamos can you do any accents? no but you'll Greek aren't you? I'll Greek yeah can you do Greek action? I can't do a Greek accent okay hello Mary you know oh yeah that's a sort of a so that's you doing Dick Van Dyke doing doing a British accent? Can you do accents? Oh no it's best not to try I could use to be able to do Aryana Huffington try Aryana here we are you know it's the 25th century and women have to sleep their way to the top like that was sort of the gist of it you know there I was on account them around with the cast of Glee like that kind of thing um so and obviously it's killing in the crowd uh what accents do you find what are the what are the more challenging ones for you what are ones can you do? You know obviously the the Arabic was it's probably my most challenging in terms of that because also Arabic it's you know I mean also with every language that people don't think about this I mean there's so many different dialects there's not just Sudanese Arabic but like you know Sudanese Arabic is its own thing and so that was definitely challenging but also what I found challenging I did a show called Bad Monkey where I played a Bahamian woman and that was also challenging you know because also because as I said Caribbean you know we're very very critical you know and so it's like you know I was really working hard on that one are there any have you what is is there an example in your mind when you think of like I cannot believe that that is what was considered allowed to be a Jamaican accent like what is like the the when you think of an example like the worst one what comes to mind it's oh if you don't want to say say it anyway I feel like John has one I was trying to think there's a Jamaican sled guys or something Oh cool running that movie was it to make it in there I wasn't brave enough to ask but that's obviously what came to mind that movie upset me but you know it wasn't even about the accent it was just you know I mean listen we're we're we're making so many advances in our industry thank god but just like there was just so many things that really upset me about that that didn't even have to do with accent I was still angry about cool running just want you all to know angry sorry I brought it up no you brought up cool running he stepped on my corn hey I want to ask you something do you remember British Vogue spotlighting your efforts to keep an original ugly shoe alive do you know I'm talking about because we were talking about a lot when when we heard you were going to be on the show can we show the photo of the shoe it's a shoe where your toes are have individuals my toes shoes your toes shoes where your toes are kind of visible you have like the like their gloves but for the feet where your toes are visible you know those kinds of shoes do you like those kinds of shoes obviously I love them are they comfortable or is it weird having your each toe in a little prison you know here's the thing but it's not prison the thing is is our toes are in prison in our normal shoes oh right because like the foot is supposed to function in a certain way and it's not you know like and you know the body is it's so intelligent you know it's like every single nerve is not just for like oh out that hurts but it's also because sending a signal to the brain to let it know which muscles to activate and you know the older I get the more I'm like I'm interested in the integrity of my spine oh yeah for sure okay my knees my ankles my hips everything and I actually I love these toes shoes you know this has been a thing that people have been asking about I love my toes shoes I sometimes like I try to reach for another shoe and I'm like the toes shoes I'm going to wear toes shoes I've never worn them just say maybe yes your foot has to like get accustomed to like walking in at first it might like hurt a little bit and you're supposed to like work up to wearing them for several hours yeah better grip can you you know the climb a building or rubber bank rubber bank I mean that's the whole point right as it's just supposed to be because our toes were supposed to be like literally be able to kind of like monkey it and and you should and I think it's like for me and listen it's tough because we're walking around all day on very very hard surfaces which is also not very natural so you know sometimes it doesn't work all the way if you're not at least walking on like some soft surfaces sand grass dirt love walking on those stuff this is so much better we need it I gotta get these toes shoes start walking around the beak it's a different life for me a whole different life for me my toes are in their little homes I'm walking on the water John Stamos is there we're wearing our toes shoes together I'm playing with the beach boys we could do it like a little photo like this yeah we're getting good ratings on those feet websites we can start an only fan for our feet yes boy that's gonna be so fun it honestly it seems fun yeah you you won't get a pull up by the way yeah oh yeah no that was understood that I'm a junior partner for sure no my feet aren't great I don't believe that they're not you're like this is that's your thing no being cute no no no my feet are not they're not that good hot uncle I bet you've got nice feet look at me I sound like Quentin Tarantino and once again I've disappeared we'll be right back hey don't go anywhere there's more of love it or leave it coming up love to leave it is brought to you by simply save the problem with most security systems is that they only alert you after a break in is already started and that's too late that's why I set up a simply safe to secure my home using the outdoor camera 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year are we still moisturizing if it's going to hit in three weeks are we are we still doing under eye cream what when are we stopping the skincare and just saying fuck it I mean I'm trying to look cute for the aliens. I'm like they're landing and I'm like with my zip. Right till the end. Right till the end. So the Astroids is growing bigger in the sky and you're like oh I'm such a controlling person I'm like I can at least control this. Oh so while descending let me make sure that my cheekbones are snatched. Oh that's nice that kind of a creature of routine. Yeah I like that. I like that. With every day like your last. I would say yeah I would do it. It starts takes a minute to put it to cream on. Drop the skin care routine John. I wouldn't do it anymore. Okay he's out he's changed his mind. Yeah. What is it? I have a question. What? He has hair plugs. They're not we don't they're not called they're not they don't call each other anymore. I'm sorry but that's a slur in my community. We don't say the P word. We don't say the gay hairpugs. All right. All right. What do you say? I think they call them follicular. What do they call them? They call it follicular unit extraction. Okay. That's what the process is called. I think they are I guess they are food. I think they're just follicles. They just call them follicles. Okay. They get FUE. They know they don't they don't cut the back. They used to cut a they used to cut like a football shape from the back of people's heads and laid on the table and then take them out like that and now they just take them out one of a time from the back which is kind of interesting. It hurts a bit. Yeah. But they give you a value and then in mid day you get a Caesar wrap. You sit like this for a while. You take a little drug that makes it go it makes it happen faster. Then you see Caesar wrap then your face down for the afternoon. Kind of like getting a BB out I think. Yeah I think so. Well maybe no no so you start face down because that's where they get the hairs. Second afternoon face up. No sandwich. What's it? What did you say? A BB out. A BB out. Don't tell me like you don't know what a BB out is. I know you date young girls. Is it? No. Are you married? Yeah. He's married. Brazilian butt lift. Oh oh. Yeah. See you now. No I didn't know. No. No one's ever said BB out. Really? Next question. What is something you might need one? What is something you could improve about yourself? You don't need one. We all tell you enter. What is something you could improve about yourself but you've decided to say fuck it. The butt. For you it's the butt. What about you? You don't need an improvement. It could be non physical. I wasn't looking for just physical improvements. What's something like a person? What's something about yourself? You know like I could be better at that but you know what? Now I'm not going to do the work. Oh. I have McDonald's on my way to the office a little too often and I know that that's wrong. I know that that's wrong but I'm enjoying earning the points in the rewards. We've got some, we've got some mackeys lovers in here. They really got us with that fucking app. There was how many times? Oh there's an app. How many times do they ask you if you had the app before it worked? Like a lot. These day don't need McDonald's. Look at these people. But the app is for what? Like ordering like who but eats? You can, yeah but you like earn points and rewards and you can every once in a while you get a free soda and and hash browns and when. Just a free soda. Well and then when the when the when a Los Angeles based team wins free nuggets. It sounds like even the air one membership is a bit more lucrative than that. Yeah. Get 10% back on every purchase. Yeah. Yeah. Listen. You guys are a lot. Yeah but that's a lot. 10%. 10% an era one. On era one. On era one. On the youth points. I'm like yes. I'm like how much do I owe? $10. Thank you. $10. My ass. For that you get for that you get a banana. But maybe like 90 instead of a hundred and thirty five. Which we like. Next question. When you feel a pain in your elbow where is the pain is the pain in your elbow in your brain or does it not have a location. This is what you were talking about earlier. A pain receptacles. Oh yes. I was like what was I talking about? Right. Like if you pain in the elbow. I feel like when I feel a pain in my elbow it is in my elbow but what I'm learning from my osteopath is it's probably to do with something that's happening in my neck or something like that. Oh wow. But it feels my elbow is hurting. Right. I feel like I'm also very in tune with my body. I'm like no no no. I know like where things are happening. Because I gave birth. Oh really? How many children do you have? Just one. I hold six. Oh that's beautiful. She's so cute. You guys want to see a picture? Yeah. Just kidding. I'm not gonna show you. You can't show me. John Stamos. Quick. Name five types of bird. Hummingbird. Blackbird. Utipoloma Blanca. A sparrow. And an eagle. Boom. Yeah. Jody. What is the ideal time to have dinner? Uh six p.m. Yeah that's right. That's right. Love early dinner. Love early dinner. I don't have to name five birds. What is this? What? She got what kind of dinner? What time is dinner? I don't know why. It's because of name five birds. Because we're all about men suffering and women having ease. Right ladies? We deserve it. John Stamos, what's your name? He knows. What's up? What an ally. Ally. What's your earliest memory? John Stamos. Probably going to Disneyland with my family. Oh it's sweet. Yeah. And the nose job. And the nose job. You had a nose job? Yeah. Then we talked about it earlier. He had his ears pinned back. I didn't. You did? They used to stick out now they don't. Isn't that cool? There's a little scar behind his ear. Check it out. It's fine. Hey. Jody, what's a conspiracy theory? You 100% believe. Say they're not all. That's like his bird question, you know? So what's it? Aliens. Do you think it aliens? Aliens, 100%. But is it even a conspiracy theory anymore? I feel like something came out recently that was like, yes, we have seen or made contact with other species. I mean it's just stupid. Look at this huge universe. We think we're the only ones here. It makes no sense. Yeah, you're right. Last question for both of you. Do you eat food off the ground? No. Well, if they're five second rule, the 10th second rule, I just got new floors. So now it's 30 second rule. No, no, no, no, no. My rule is do people take their shoes off? Do you take their shoes off when you come in the house? Do you make people take their shoes off? I don't really care. You cannot be eating. You cannot be eating anything out the floor. You're right. Why am I doing it anymore? Here's my rule. Here's my compromise rule. What do you take your shoes off? That's still stinky feet. Stinky feet versus what you have dragged in from the outside. I'll take stinky feet. You're right. My compromise proposal is simply to say, if it's dry, you won't die, but if it's wet, best forget. And you can see Jody and season two of the agency out now on Paramount Plus. And we'll be right back. And we're back. Progress. Progress. I have a few. Then again, not too few to mention, which is why it's time for second thoughts. Get down the egg. Here's how it works. Our producers have given me a list of things I should regret about this episode. This current show that we're watching and being in. If you have any second thoughts about tonight, we welcome them because this is a show where we're going to acknowledge things where we want to, you know, we're like, you know, well, we're not going to pretend everything was perfect. You know, we don't need to. First, I went pretty deep on New York City elections for an audience of LA-based John Stamos fans. I gave the audience permission to laugh at Jewish people, but forgot to retract it at the end of the show for the bylaws of woke 2.0. Nobody seems to be watching Elizabeth, but me. What is that? Is that Elizabeth from Wicked? No, Elizabeth is a spin-off. Elizabeth is a spin-off of the good fight, which is a spin-off of the good wife. And so it's a spin-off of a spin-off of the original show. Carrie Preston plays a lawyer who's solving mysteries and it's a fucking delight. Have you watched The Hunting Wives? The Hunting Wives? I'm on season two. Oh, I haven't seen The Hunting Wives yet. What are you streaming these days? The agency on Paramount page of the honor. Let's see, another regret. I told John Stamos that scientists are going to cut up my brain. It was before you got here. But why is that a regret? I think I should cut up your brain, you'll cut it again. Here's my question. Producers are writing your regrets. Not you. But there's suggestions. What do you regret? I feel is, let's see. Oh, I regret not knowing my favorite band. That's incredible. That is regrettable. Well, it's funny. I don't really have a, I would say that I have like, I love a lot of music, but I would never say I have a favorite band. You know what, actually, what are we talking about? No, I'm actually with you there because it's so hard on someone's like, what's your favorite band? And it's like, what's your favorite band? How can I just pick one favorite band? Three. Okay, favorite artist. I love James Blake. Love James Blake. I also loved, anybody in here loved dance hall music. There's no Jamaicans. Maybe not. Anyone? Wow. There's too many white people in this audience. Like people there, you don't listen to any dance hall music. It's a shame. I say, my son, some spice. I go, you're Jama, you're Jamaican me crazy. That's terrible. Cut that. I regret that. (audience laughing) - Jody, do you have any regrets? - That's fine. - Any regrets? No regrets? - No regrets. - Stocks R-A-T-R-E-T-S. - Oh yeah. Thank you both so much for being here. Before we go, I wanna say a heartfelt thank you to Alan Pierre, Suba Argoal, and Jossi Kaufman for hilarious joke contributions to this show. In particular, I wanna thank Jossi, who has written on this show for most of its run through every iteration, through the pandemic, through the shows I did in my backyard, and it has helped shape the weird joyful way we try to deal with what is ever happening this week. I couldn't have done this show without you. Added you ass. Some of the critics of the show, I still don't. There are 130 days until the midterms. We'll be back next week with Mark DuPlaus and X-Mail. Thank you, John Stamos. (audience laughing) Thank you, Jody Turner Smith. Love and relief, it is a crooked media production. Our show is produced by Kendra James, film a graph, Kelsey Gante, and me, John Lovin. Our production team includes Tally Keeper, Sarah Lazarus, Roman Borcellino, Peter Miller, David Tolls, Claudia Shang, Jay Banks, Gavin Purcell, and Matt DeGrope. 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