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Maybe it's Mabelie. >> Yeah, I told you, I told you I told you, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. >> I said the biggest artist in the world, and he was conquered. >> The super bowl, 100%. >> Conquer, no. >> Let's go. >> You were talking crazy on my man's, on me and Al's man, right? >> On our man's, on our, on our, on our Latino man's. >> Yeah. >> I said if this would be probably one of the greatest super bowl performances all the time. >> Yeah, really? >> I think so. >> I don't think so. >> I don't think so. >> Thanks to him, he kicked him out of Williamsburg, so now he could perform with this place. >> Yeah, that is true. >> That is true. That's fought right there, by the way. That's the block from my house. >> Really? >> The Caribbean social club? >> Yeah. >> She's holding off her dear life. >> Dear life, yeah. >> Look at him. She's a super bowl. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, but they don't pay them. He's not giving her any money. Happy to only pay him feel of on. >> That's just like, you have no money to this poor woman. >> Was there any Tonita? >> Yeah. >> Tonita, yeah. >> My neighbor. >> Starts up saying, yeah, like you know, Al. >> I know that. >> We know that. >> Come on. >> No, no, no, no, no. >> We know, we know. >> We know, we know. >> We know. >> We know. >> We know. >> No, I think that time. >> You're not, you're not about this. >> You thought of a great point. >> You're not about the poor. >> You're not about a really good point. >> If you like thick Latina's shaking ass on TV, you're a fucking weird, if you're a big time mom. >> You fucking live. [LAUGH] >> The chair makes you do that. >> Hold on. >> The chair makes you do that. >> Hold on, hold on. >> Hold on. >> Now I get it. >> What the hell? >> No, I got it. >> You search Al's name in the five. >> No, no, no. >> Search Al's name in the phone. >> I'm just giving you a load of money. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. >> Nobody's ever said that. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. >> If you like these thick Latina's, you're a lib dude. >> You're such a socialist, you're a Marxist, you're a mental retard, you're a traitor, you're a vampire. >> You're a vampire. >> You are a vampire. >> Vampire, I'm a traitor. >> You're a vampire. >> You're a vampire. >> Vampire. >> You're a vampire. >> Unnecessary. >> They were trying to throw the white something. >> They were trying to throw some for you. >> They gave Os bonito. >> This is a human venito. >> What is that, baby? >> What is that? >> What is that? >> Is that venito? >> Is that venito? >> That's venito. >> That's venito. >> I don't even know how to say that. >> It's venito. >> No, it's venito. >> It's venito. >> But you say it would have been. >> Isn't it venito? >> No, it's venito. >> Look at that. >> Fucking idiot. >> Look at that. >> Let them do this to our culture. >> You're really going to let them do this to our culture. >> Look at that. >> I can't wait for this one. >> You said, what is it? >> It's venito. >> Fuck it. >> Yeah. >> You're going to let them do this to our culture. >> We're going to let them do this to our culture. >> It's a Bruno Mars song. >> But he took one of his lyrics and said, "Oh, is this what you really want?" >> And then cut it off. >> And then that's why you got a white girl performance. >> How do you say to the Spanish? >> How did you stand for a music cue that wasn't there? >> They lay, man. >> And come on, Joe. >> So what's the logic with Lady Gaga? >> Do they sit down with Jay-Z and be like, "Yo, this shit is, it's been like six years without a white." >> Yeah, I think so. >> We need to give them something. >> The last white was Eminem, I think. Didn't he do it with 50? >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, that was the last one. >> He's passing. >> But what, he's a white person. >> Yeah. >> Eminem is a white person. >> So is Lady Gaga. >> I was fucking dallian. >> I know, dude. >> He really didn't realize this fucking battle. >> You got something. >> I'm freaking so on America's biggest thing. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Come on, dude. >> This is wonderful. >> Why don't we just embrace this part of Americana? We too love Big Moody Latinas. We too love Pure Vise. We too love Dancing. >> Hey, man. >> We too love Subtupitos from the abuela. >> This is what we love. >> Okay. >> This, for example, right here. This, we do not want to see, right? >> Right. >> This is Socialist. >> For your culture. >> This is cultural Marxism. >> Like that. >> This is what Jordan Peterson warns about. >> This is what everybody has to let everybody be mad at this, though. >> No, but that's what we're discussing right now. Like, when you look at these finance Latinas shaking it, and you enjoy it. >> It's just too political. >> That's my issue. >> You get these fat ass Latinas shaking ass, making twerkling go through the grass on the field. >> It's just so political. >> Why does everybody have to be politics? >> No, no. >> Exactly. >> Why can't I just watch football? >> Exactly. >> We don't like these hot Latinas shaking ass. >> Yeah, fuck that. We want, we want white chicks with no ass and zero tits with hot pumps. >> Exactly. >> That's not political. >> That's not divisive. >> But we have fat Latina. >> Sorry. >> Look at that. >> Come on now. >> Don't you hate America? >> Yeah. >> Don't you hate America and other decisions? >> I hate it a lot. >> Yeah, dude. >> All right. Are you throwing? Are you throwing? >> Yeah. >> I should got him going. >> He's throwing it. >> He's throwing it. >> He's throwing it. >> See, we need to make GLP ones illegal. >> Wait, why is that? >> Because you got girls with thick Latina ass trying to get on the GLP one, going to ruin it. For what? To confine to white beauty standards. >> To get to white beauty standards. >> Kind of talking. >> Which is now what we want as proud, you know, rassa. Right? We don't know. >> No. >> You don't understand that. >> Get the fuck out. >> Get the fuck out. >> Get the fuck out. >> Not all the same. >> Not all the same. >> He can be rassa. >> He can be rassa. >> He can be rassa. >> He can be rassa. >> He can be rassa. >> Rassa. >> He can be rassa. >> Rassa. >> Rassa. >> Rassa. >> Rassa. >> Rassa. >> He doesn't discriminate. >> Rassa. >> Rassa. >> Rassa. >> Okay. >> That is a little bit rassist. >> Rassa. >> And maybe that was thrown a bone to the whites. >> Yeah. >> Maybe that was Gidelby. >> Yeah. >> Listen, if you're going to have Latinos out there, at least make a bone. >> Wait, you don't have some grass. >> It's all white people in the gut. >> No, is there anything but whites in the gut? >> No. >> You know how I knew that? >> The sway was a little off the way. >> Yeah. >> Right, it didn't have a nice little salsa of a chata too. >> It's done. Every once in a while, white just peeks into the face out. And people. >> Yeah. >> They're taking over. >> Yeah. >> But this was good. >> No, it was awesome. And he gave a shout out to my people at the very end. Gotta know. >> Oh, yeah. >> How are you Canadian? >> They did. >> I'm just saying. >> Okay. >> Question. >> Question did. And did you guys put up anything on Kelsey for Trump, just drone, hookin' him off? >> I don't know. >> There's a part of me thought, like, in the middle of this performance, he's going to jump out of something before his feet even reach the platform. He was just going to get like-- >> Clamishing. >> Clamishing right out of that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If I saw that one, I would have been. >> Okay. >> I would have been fair enough. >> Well, some people are saying that Trump's response was scheduled, because look at the time that it came out. 8 p.m. >> Okay. >> Because it was central time. It came out at 9 p.m. Eastern Standard. >> Okay. >> But it basically says worst half time show ever knows creativity. This shit sucks. Also, we do need to fix the NFL kickoff rule. It's crazy. Make America great again. And people are like, oh, this was a vague scheduled post that someone made. >> Hold on, one second. I'm sorry. >> Are you the performance? >> Like was this after the-- >> I don't know. >> I didn't come out after the performance, but it was scheduled. at exactly 9 o'clock. They're like, oh, yeah, it'll be done and we'll just schedule it for the hour. - Got it. - Okay. We're supposed to sit here and believe that Trump doesn't enjoy watching some girls from the island. - It's work. (laughing) - Is that what you were supposed to believe? - You never did. - There's no way, right? - These girls are the wrong migrants, all right? They need to be Eastern European on a private jet. - But are you alleging or are some people online alleging that he already had a response baked up prior to the performance? You're saying that he didn't watch the performance objectively and then react? - Well, it's funny because I think he did actually watch the performance. That people are calling a Trump a traitor. - That's a trying point you were saying to them. - Because he was apparently watching. He didn't put on the turnip point you were saying one. - I just saw that on Twitter. That might be not true. - Did you guys watch the turnip point you were saying one? - Yes, of course, man. - That she was gas. - I saw white speaking English, you know, "Bah" with the "Bah" in the bank. - In the bank. (laughing) - I was on stage, I said that was the same joke. I was like, I was listening to the one in Spanish and I was like, I don't know what you're saying. I turned to the turnip point, you know what I'm saying? It was just, "Bah" with the "Bah" in the bank. I was like, nobody's speaking English to America. - But that's the thing, that's so annoying people. Like, dude, I don't even understand the lyrics. I've never understood the Super Bowl halftime show lyrics. - Never? - Like, do you know the lyrics? Like, Shakira did a Super Bowl halftime show. (humming) - What is the rest of it? - I don't like how you actually tried to sing. - I don't like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - I don't like how you just talk it. - You're going back to Canada. - You don't know, no, no, no. - Canada. - Canada. - You made an effort to sound. - I'm sorry, but you have a good voice. - Okay, I'm sorry, then God granted me with these unbelievable pipes, dude. And I just know how to sing. - No, I do. - Also, I do have a new song. - I have the came out. - I haven't even year clogged it up. - I haven't year clogged it up. - So it was even maybe a little off pitch. - But all that I say, Shakira does this halftime show. No one knows what she sang. Lady Gaga sang it in English. I don't even know what song it was. - I mean, he got a little bit of a point. - But fuck you. - I don't know the lyrics, bro. Like, I don't know any of the lyrics, any songs. - This is us. - This is us. - Who's that on the right? - That's Erica Kirk throwing it down. - So what is the argument? - She sings. - Yes, bro. - This is AI. - Please tell me this is AI. - But, bro, it's not, she's a-- - She's a rock 'n' way. - She's a studio recording artist. - Stop it. - What? - Randly Gilbert. - Oh. - Randly Gilbert. - All right. - Yeah. - No. - No. - What? - Come Joey. - Joey. - No, no. - Take the computer and smash it over there. - Take the computer, close it, and then break it over the top of your head. - Come on. - If this is Gabby Barrett. - Oh. - Yeah. - God. - Yeah. But she got Erica Kirk faced. - What does that mean? - It's like a little, you know what I mean. (laughing) - Oh, dance. - Dance. - Ow, dance. - There you go. - Oh my god. - Don't get it. - That was. - I was with the racism in Owl. - Allowing them. - Ow! - Don't let people come here. - I didn't put that together. - You told you to tap them off. - You're up there. - This is a dance challenge. - I don't say no to me. - We got a-- - Oh, man. - I was-- - You know, I was trying to get out of that. - I didn't think about it either. - I know. - I don't see, see. - You know my heart. - You need me. - Love does be hate. - Love be hate. - The needs are haters over here. - I was watching 15 seconds of the turning point I have to show it immediately. Don't blackmail a dance. - Oh, man. - I can hear a lot of sorry. - That's on the contrary. - What are you thinking? - Dance. - So, what is the argument against bad money? Doing the half time show? - That he said things that are not supportive of America in the past and they're upset about that. Like, let's say he was like a Cuban American, like die hard America conservative. Love everything about America and also performed in Spanish. Would they be that upset about that? - Well, I think there's a lot of dumb Americans that think Puerto Ricans aren't US citizens. - That's part of it. - They can't truly believe that. - No, there's like some get punched in the head a lot and then they think they're fake Americans. - Oh, wait, I feel like this is targeted. You know, I'm just saying there's some people that are dumb and think that Puerto Ricans aren't US citizens. - To those people, I would say fuck you. - But who are you talking about? - I'm just saying about, bro. - I'm just saying if-- - I feel like you're talking about Jake Paul. That's what it feels like right now. - Wait, wait, is he dumb? Does he not know that American, I mean, Puerto Ricans are Americans. - Well, he must know 'cause he lives there. I mean, I would think he knows. Wait, wait, wait, wait, turn off the half time of fake American citizen. Oh, no, he's a dummy. He's a fucking dummy. So fuck Jake Paul. - Bro, that's sick. - You had him on the podcast. - You invited him on the podcast. - That was him, it was Logan. - No, you invited Jake on the show. You wanted to talk to him specifically. - Yo, yeah, oh, look alike. 'Cause I thought we had the other one. - We had both of them on. - We were talking to Tony Aero and Uncle Murdo last week. Did you think it was just you were seeing double? - They were twins. - I wouldn't say that. - No, but this is really corny and I'm seeing backtracking it now. So what did he initially say? Why don't you bring up the initial tweet, Joey? I think this is the initial one, yeah. - Was it? - Yeah. - Okay, he goes purposely turning off the half time show. Let's rally together and show big corporations. They can't just do whatever they want to without consequences, which shows too much of my experience. - Oh, sorry. Which equals viewership for them. Turn off this half time, a fake American citizen performing who publicly hates America. I cannot support that. - Dude, he got hacked, bro. - He said he got hacked. - No, he didn't. - Because the typo, maybe he typed it wrong. Maybe, oh, yeah, that's what happens when you start talking about Jake. - Oh. - Yeah. - Miles takes your mic. You shut your ass up and go back to your hits. - Yo, Miles. - Fix my mic. - Itch. - Yeah. - All right, there we go. (laughing) We got away, we back, we back. - All right, so what happened? So Jake said that, I don't understand if a fake American citizen thing. I don't know if it doesn't even make sense. He knows their American citizens. He lives there. - I don't think he does. - He got punched in the head too many times by a D Joshua. - So you think he forgot? - Yeah, yeah. - I think he's like acutely aware that it's part of America because there's a very, very terrible tax code there. - Oh, that's true. But maybe that's all he knows about the island. - Ah, so it's like a tax haven. - Yes, yeah. - Bro, it's being misinterpreted, bro. He literally said the problem with my tweet is that the word fake is being misinterpreted. He's not a fake citizen, obviously, because he's Puerto Rican and I love Puerto Rico. And all Americans who support the country, more so, that money's fake because his values and criticisms are a great country. You were intentionally trying to misinterpret his tweet because you're a hater because you have JDS. - All right. - So I'll, if, that's what you have JDS did. - You got Jake to rage with that. - That is funny. - You're a hating on a friend of the show. One of your homies that you invited come on the podcast, you're just hating on it for views and clicks, you're rage baiting right now. - This was, if his apology is genuine, I'll give him grace. But I think that came just because he got a lot of backlash and if that's the case, then fuck 'em. - This is an unfortunate thing because Jake did just get knocked out but lasted way longer than anybody thought. And people were like really supportive, I think of Jake after that there. I, of course there are people like, you know, this is what happens when you fight a real boxer, et cetera. But I think deep down there's a little part of like, holy shit, this kid's kind of brave. He starts boxing his 20s and he goes and gets knocked out by Anthony Joshua, jaw broken. And maybe like the first time in his entertainment career, post like Disney, where it felt like there was kind of unanimous, not unanimous, but majority support. - Yeah. - People didn't, maybe had a little bit of respect for him. - Yeah, respect is a better thing. It's like, I don't like your antics and I don't like some of these fights by respect that you were able to go in there and get your ass kicked and tried your hardest. - Yeah. - And then he says this and people are like, what the fuck are you doing? It was so crazy. I thought he was trolling. Like I was like, oh, Jake's working towards some fight with somebody maybe. - I thought so also and then if you go through his grant, he's doing a hard shift to that, the mega crowd. He's doing a real hard shift. - Interesting. - Hey, that's what time you on. Then how about that? - That's it. - Well, he says if you're public criticizing ice for just doing their jobs, then he's gonna speak on it. So you might get clipped. You might get clipped. - I think he's coming for us. - Yeah, bro, you might get caught in there. - Fake system, bro. - My fake system. - You're fucking Puerto Rican. - You're both equal. Hit the music. - Come on. (laughing) - He's really calling his Puerto Rican. - But yeah, that is funny 'cause people are mad at bad buddies. He's literally, I mean, I saw someone say, he's more American than Trump. Either that was a funny take, because technically, he's been on Puerto Rico and his family lineage in Puerto Rico goes farther back. And Puerto Rico is a part of America for farther back than Trump's ancestors. - Ooh. - Because like they kiss. - They're like Scotland in the 30s or something. I don't have the data the best to say. - I don't wanna be critical of your take, but like. - No, I'm not, whoa, no, no, I'm not. - I don't, but, you know, once you're American, you're American. Nobody's more American 'cause their family's here longer. - No, I do you're more American. - If you're more American, if you're more American. - If you're more American. - My ancestors were hit for a long time. - 100% to our ancestors were hit for a long time. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Unlike your Scottish ancestors that came over. - Yeah, yeah. - In the 80s or whatever. - That's good. - At least they weren't. - So there's levels. (laughing) - There's a level. - Exactly. - You're less American, but you gotta catch up, you gotta make up for it. You gotta start doing Bastion now. - Even if I can't, I can't support that. - Crime. - I did get lucky though, 'cause like my German side came here before, - For a hitty? - Before, yeah, before Tucker Carlson's favorite time in history and one. - My Scottish family came after all the fuck shit. - Yeah. - So this is like perfect. like they got after slavery before World War II. I'm in a nice little zone in terms of like low amounts of guilt. >> We just got to get your name out of the F-T-Files. >> Did you search people's hands behind? >> Of course. >> That's the everybody. That's the first thing I did. >> First I searched mine, see if I'm poppin'. >> Did you get any shots? >> Nothing. >> Nothing. >> Damn. >> Nobody used the studio? >> Fuck. >> What did Steve Bannon use when he did that, Steve? >> No. >> Did he have media? >> No. >> And I might have been having to interview an Alex's video. >> Right. >> And you know you would have taken that money in a heartbeat. It would have given me a discount. >> Give me some tax advice. >> Nah, nah. We taxed those guys. But would you have built a studio in 2015? >> You're saying, you're saying that you're looking into the world. >> Okay, you're looking into the criminal record of all the people that you build studios for. >> Or do you have a policy where if people have prior convictions, they're not allowed to record in your studio? >> Drainer. >> I think I'm going to dance now. >> How many criminals? >> I'm not career criminal. >> What the fuck is happening? >> I have recorded in WTF. >> I know. >> Guaranteed the next Epstein list. Whoever the next Epstein is, like 20, 30 years from now, 100% some of his gronies recorded there. >> You're like the island. >> Everybody wants to go. >> Come on. >> We can't use his actual name. >> The fuck you do? >> We can't use his actual name, even though we should search it in front of all of us. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Nah, but I definitely, I searched everything. I searched the fake one, the real one, everything. >> Nothing. >> Yeah. >> Clean. >> Clean. >> Damn, there's a lot of gags in there. >> Dude, mom's gonna give me so much shit 'cause he was like, "Yeah, dude, my family's not in a no way." >> I searched his last name immediately. He was like 10 results. >> And I was like, "All right." >> Yeah, let's say you that mouse. >> It's a woman on the board of trustees for an event that Epstein wanted to go to. >> How convenient. >> Wow. >> Is it a relative of him? >> So he couldn't get into your family. >> Not that I was via. You think I have, you think that my family is on the board of trustees and prestigious New York charity? >> Yeah. >> The part of the family I don't talk to you. >> Yeah. >> But I looked it up. >> I looked deep in it. I was like, "All right, well, let's see. If my last name's in here, I want to know what's going on." >> Bro, damn thing shit is just so crazy. >> Yeah. >> But how do you actually even untangle the web of debauchery and criminality that's connected with all the most elite institutions and people around the world? >> I don't know how. I don't know if there's like a singular thread that like ties everything neatly together. >> Yeah, sometimes he just puts together a sentence. >> I just love people. >> You love them. >> He likes it. >> Yo, I could try to recite this. >> He's not going to come out. >> He's not going to leave that home. >> I'll see. >> I know he's the character. >> He's the character. >> It's insane. >> It's insane. My mom was right the whole time. >> Yeah. >> That elite satanic pedophiles were running the government. >> Yo, you know his mom's a lib now? >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> She's fully swung all the way back around. >> Respect. >> Yeah. >> Of course she's there. But yeah, it's just crazy. Like, you go through the emails and you're just like, okay, everyone's kind of connected. >> Yeah. >> They've only released half for the record. >> Yeah. >> And it's enough to incriminate everyone. Isn't that crazy? >> Wait, I have. I thought we were like two-thirds now. >> No, I don't know. But there's like a few million more. >> Yeah. >> I think the total like that was recovered was like six million individual files. And they've released like three million or something to that effect. >> Wow. >> When Massie and Roe and the rest of Congress got to see unredacted files that were still redacted, those are of the three million that we've all seen. >> I'm not sure. It's certainly that because they're looking at some of the stuff that's censored and redacted that they're like, we're going to just go on the floor and say all the names. But it seems like to me at least that they're also getting access to the unreleased as my suspicion. I don't know exactly that. But that's what I think. >> But you think they've seen those already. And then what about us getting? What about us getting me unreleased? >> Well, there's conversation about are they going to release more? And are they able to release more through Trump's administration still, you know, protect their interests, whatever they may be? >> What do the odds we get? What does Cal- what does Cal- when does Cal- she say, is there a Cal- she market for, will we get the rest of the Epstein files this month? >> Well, yeah. >> We're not getting us shit. >> So, we have no way. There's no way. Right? Like if it's this bad already and they're giving us, and these are the sacrificial lambs, there's no way we're getting more. >> What is it? >> Well, Trump released more Epstein files this month, 37% chance. >> I don't believe it until like some random account bets of a million dollars a day before the release. You know? Like you can really tell who has the insider information, you're going to fucking trillion dollars get put on his skewer bet. >> If Maduro are going to get captured and those things don't have a million dollars a day before. >> Yeah, wonder why you thought that. Wonder why you're willing to put up a million dollars. >> And then Trump's talking about Baron, like, can he just does the stuff with the computer? He's a genius. >> He's a genius. >> How does he figure it out? >> So does it say 37% Trump will release more Epstein files this month, no way, no fucking chance. >> I mean, it was that 10%, it seems like it's going up. But after this fallout, you think they're willing to release more. >> In my mind, I'm like, what does Trump have to lose? Everyone thinks that he's already implicated. Everyone thinks that he's already, like his reputation has already been dragged through the mud so much. >> Well, what's the other half? If we got the half of it already? That's my point. He's the president of the United States, and everyone thinks that he's already done the most treacherous debauchery times when he has to lose is that all the information of him actually being all on action, but it affects everyone else also. His reputation has already tarnished. He don't give a fuck about other people. >> But I'm saying, if all the information comes out, like, arising tide lifts all boats, a lowering tide lowers all boats, and he's already at the bottom of the ocean. So he's like, yeah, just bring everyone else down. And he's the last one standing because his reputation has already destroyed. >> Yeah, I don't think so. You think that, so what is he worried that like, there won't be enough room in a jail? Like, what is it? Like, yeah, we all go down, maybe I won't go to jail, because it's too full. >> I mean, I'm just saying, is that what they're building those concentration camps for? What if it's not for ice? What if it's for the elites? >> It's for the elites. >> Then we'd like to do it. >> All of a sudden, we're okay with it, exactly. >> If they just got all locked up in those kinds of building, that's fine, and we get to view them. If they were building like pretty resorts, then I would believe that, but- >> No, make them fucking suffer. Don't you think? >> Yes. >> You want pretty resorts for the people that have been traveling in children? >> Yeah, I want them. >> Trying to build his future home, so I think he would make it nice. >> Yeah, but he doesn't think it's for him. >> Ooh. >> But we know it is. >> Come on, man. >> Yeah. >> Allegedly, this is all. Allegedly. All the people that are in power, we just want to let you know this is all. Allegedly. >> Yeah, exactly. >> No one did anything wrong. >> No one has done anything wrong. >> Which for the record, I'm not an expert. I'm not a journalist. This is just me with an internet connection, Google, and shit, trying to figure it out. >> Yeah. >> We should get an expert. >> Well, next week, we're going to have an interesting one for you. Put it that way. >> We're going to do a nice, little deep dive. >> So they can break down for real, but now we can just beef us. >> Now we're going to talk about shit. >> Yeah. >> That's a lot of shit. >> Let's us get to the bottom of it. >> All of our tour dates in less than 30 seconds, Providence, Rhode Island, March 28th. Los Angeles with jelly roll, the Greek theater part of the Netflix comedy festival. That's May 8th, August 8th, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Mark, go. >> Washington, DC, and Charlotte, North Carolina, the week in a fiber in 19th. I can't wait to see you guys there. Peace and love. >> Are those images of the guy that looks exactly like him in Israel real? >> Have you seen this? >> No. You guys blow up my brain. >> Somehow, Al doesn't know about this. >> Even some Puerto Rican says the house actually only thing about Epstein that's all my timeline is Jay-Z. [LAUGH] >> That's the only fucking thing. >> Did you see what he hacked on and put? >> He's the guy from Twitter. >> Yes. >> Wearing the Epstein shirt right next to Jay in the booth at the Super Bowl. >> No. >> So him and Jay are in the booth together. >> As AI. >> Wait. >> I see him. >> What is he? >> Yeah. >> So go get the picture of Jay-Z and Jack Dorsey, I think his name is. >> Yeah. >> He's wearing an Epstein shirt. >> It's just a black shirt with a yellow writing that just says Epstein on it. And then right next to him is Jay-Z. >> I'm sure the shirt means like, hey, release the files, right? That's like some, I'm wondering if it's like a protective thing, which is basically like, I'm gonna be in a booth at the Super Bowl. The chances that 90% of the people around me have fucked kids on an island are high. I need to wear the shirt to make it clear that I'm not down with that shit. >> Okay. That's a weird way to do it. >> Apparently it's fake, sadly. >> Oh really? >> Yeah. >> See, and I'm on you fucking boomers. >> He's wearing a shirt that's apparently so sotoshi on it in the same, like the crypto, the big one. >> You can get it. >> I was just kidding. >> It's real. >> I asked the dude, what did you ask? >> You said, did you think it rolled out? Do you think it rolled out? AI will purpose. >> No. >> To fall with you? >> No. >> It's fucking real. >> That's a great conspiracy. >> What? >> There's a great conspiracy around this. >> Which is. >> That letting the Epstein files out at the same time that AI is becoming incredibly hard to tell the difference between was a planned timeline. >> Yeah. Because now you just complain to sort of reality, we don't know what to believe, we don't know what is true, what is false, and every bit of information we consume. It looks so salacious that it can't possibly be true, and we're consuming things that are not true. >> That aren't even that crazy, like him just wearing the Epstein shirt, that could be done not out of support for Epstein, but he's basically, it's like when people wearing the Epstein didn't kill himself, merch, you guys and all that, like I thought he was doing out of protest of the powerful individual he might be seated next to in the booth. I'm sure it's kind of tough to be honest. The Satoshi one's kind of far. But yeah, it's like hell of a glow up too, man. He looks like Jason Bourne. Oh, Dorsi? Yeah. Now he's got a piece. That's not going crazy. Yeah. He's good. Nice. Good hair line. He's good. And he sees that forehead. He's trying to do that. Don't try to make big foreheads. He's always trying to make big foreheads. Big brain time. That's what it is. It's stone head right there. All right, so let's go. What are the craziest things we've seen in the Epstein files? Bill Gates catching an STD. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we talked about that on Patreon a little bit. Oh, yeah. Which for the record, hilarious. Well, hilarious comments on Patreon. Why would they stop? Patron is the Patron. Because we had David Phillin. Oh, sure. We got it. And the cops were just ripping it. They're killing him. Yeah, they're killing it. Because all the comments been like, I try to give this guy a chance. What a douchebag. But it's wood on the table. The first minute was wrong with it. Who called David a hate sponge? Oh, Miles. That's me. He just absorbs all the hate. Yeah, yeah. If you ever have a controversy, if there's some heat on you, you can hang out with David, people go, that guy's worse. And then just sucks. Damn, dude, immediately. Shit. Yeah, that's kind of smart. It's pretty good. It's pretty good, dude. Keep them up. Keep your low, David. Okay, so is the, is the. The Bill Gates thing is wild. Is it true? Is it an actual email correspondence? Kind of. From what I'm able to understand, they did obviously meet up and talk post to us in a conviction. Right. But we know that. There's like two different kind of things happening in the emails. There's the emails with Bill Gates reaching out to Jeffrey Epstein, asking for stuff. And the story, as it's coming up on Twitter, which again, I'm not an expert, allegedly, on all this. Don't sue me. But basically, he's saying, basically Bill Gates is saying, I need antibiotics from Jeffrey Epstein. So I can Sarah potentially put it into my wife Melinda's drinks because I did contract an SDT after being with Russian prostitutes. Now, why is he going into Epstein? What's all this about? The most interesting thing to me is that there's an email from Jeffrey Epstein to himself. Basically, laying all of this out in very plain English about Bill Gates. And it seems like it's supposed to be sent to Bill or someone within his circle. Basically, what feels like a blackmail email. Basically, saying, if you want to do this deal, that's fine, but let the record show that I helped you out with this. And you've reached out to me for this thing. And you've reached out to me about these antibiotics with these Russian prostitutes. Whether that email actually got sent to Bill, we don't know. But the fact that it's drafted to himself in such a way that makes it seem like he's trying to extort Bill Gates is crazy. And just really validates what a lot of people feel about this guy being some type of espionage spy blackmailing the operator. I think he meant to send it to himself because, like, for me, if I want something to keep something important, I'll text it to myself and how I just go to my text history. And I know all the importance you're in here. And you keep it on deck. And that way if something happens, you can just fire it off to him immediately. Exactly. So that's sort of the story with that. Why is Bill Gates reaching out to Epstein specifically? So yeah, this is two Jeffrey Epstein from himself, which J.E. vacation is still just like the funniest thing to me. He's doing, like, a vacation email. He's how he's, like, conducting with his entire criminal. Jeffrey has to sweepstakes. So J.E. is just, like, hilarious to me. Regardless, he basically says towards the bottom, I've not come to this decision quickly or without a great deal of thought during the past few weeks. I've caught up in a severe marital dispute between Bill and Melinda. I have the greatest respect for my friend of seven years, making the date very specific. I wish them both well in my role as his right hand. I have been asked on multiple occasions. And in hindsight, wrongly acquiesced into participating in things that I've ranged from morally inappropriate to ethically unsound and have been repeatedly asked to do things that get near and potentially over the line into illegality. Though it was kindly suggested I would make a transaction to a new position over my six years of service, Yada Yada, generous package. I felt it would be dishonest to myself from helping Bill get drugs in order to deal with consequences of sex with Russian girls to facilitating his illegal tricks with married women to being asked to provide Adderall for bridge tournaments, hilarious detail. I feel I owe it to my friends and future colleagues to admit a moral failure to ask forgiveness and to move on with my life. So it's like this stepping down email to a bunch of people where he includes all the folks that the Bill of Rasmussen do, including getting Adderall for a bridge tournament, which is just so funny. What's bridge? It's like I'm came old people playing a card game. But imagine it enough as to be like, "No, I need the Addies." That's right. I need the Addies because we're playing cards. And Bill Gates is like, "I'm not getting fucked over by Larry Summers and Tom Fritzger anymore of this bridge tournament on the island." Locked it. I need to be absolutely dialed. It's just so funny to me. Okay, crazy, right? Why would he send that email to himself? Having it on Dex, so that he can fire it off to. Is he sending a warning shot to all these different people? Well, I don't know who it got sent to. I'm assuming he got sent to himself to log it. Yeah, and to someone else, I mean, some intelligence agency have access to his email. And this is like a reminder to them. Hey, by the way, we got something on Bill in case you need it. Possible. It's not great. Why would he not just call it? Was email technology so new that all these boomers were like, "There's no way they'll be able to hack it." Right? Because they're speaking quite comfortably on email. I mean, he's been navigating in this world for a long time. But the other guys are also doing it. Yeah. Like the other people emailing him are doing it with no regard for their own personal safety. Yeah. Especially if you're like involved in a various activity, you think that you'd be like, "I don't want there to be a paper trail of this." Yeah. Like this is Bill Gates, a billionaire, drawing a hooker. Allegedly. Allegedly. Like, isn't that like number one thing you don't do? Like even if you have nothing, you don't draw a hook out? I'm saying like if he's a wild boi and he's moving around like this. But the cost of drawing a hooker to all of your other, like fathering a kid out of wedlock. Yeah. Insane to a guy like that. Yeah. But I also think he has the type of money he can have people disappear if he wanted to. So now you're adding like a crazier layer there, which is like, okay, if I do get this girl pregnant, they'll just be sulfuric acid. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. Wow, that's that's some gnarly. Which apparently industrial amounts of sulfuric acid was sent to Epstein's Island. Yeah, the day after he was indicted like he gets the indictment and then like 30 gallons of it are sent to do it. And that's probably for other stuff. Yeah. You know, it's probably not to just melt the body. I got to can't buy some sulfuric acid anymore. Just for you and the boys. Yeah. You got a big bridge tournament. You don't know what's going to go after that. You got to like some shit on fire. Bro. Yeah. Imagine playing a car with your boys. I mean, like I need drugs from a pedophile. I mean, right, you're taking it to way too serious. Also, there's no way I can't get Adderall at the office. Like you work with engineers. They're causing the guy that invented Adderall. Exactly. I'm going to fucking Jeffrey Epstein unless Adderall is code for something else. Bridge is code for something else. Oh, I need Adderall for bridge. I actually need my Agra for kids. Oh, they fucking got him. You guys fucking grassy. We scratched the case every single time. This is not what's so happened about this. Because it rhymes. Yeah, right at the end of the day. It's just like, ooh, that was clever. Just you guys, you guys, we thought, bro, we fucking got out of the way. Fuck it. That's the other part of this is like solving it. You do feel like Scooby Doo a little bit. Yeah. You know, everybody's detectives with this shit. It does put you in that position. And there is something like, imagine why? Why do you just laugh at this laugh? Kids again. Fuck, I know that. This is not funny. You look like Howard Lutton. I know, I know. What a fucking sociopath. Is that all this is also, it's just like, when you collect sociopaths at the highest level, and they're all engaging with one another, they can operate with somewhat normalcy while all this is going on. Like, the average person would be like, shitting themselves, right? Yeah. Like, the average person that had sent insane emails to Jeffrey Epstein is probably not coming on the podcast and being a dick when Mark asks him what his stack is. The average person, that was great. I just love the fact that he was shitting on you. But, oh my god, Mark was so happy when he looked. When he ran Peter, he his name all over the file. And Peter was acting like the looser's mother-fucker on the planet. He wouldn't even tell you what supplements he took. And he's fucking emailing Epstein. Well, I wish you had your life. You're such a naughty little boy. What was his personality that he was devoid of on this podcast? That he asked to come on. I know. Yeah, I asked him about supplements and he was like, I don't want to talk about supplements. And I was like, he's pussy-carb-free. And he was like, dude, I'm glad you heard that. How'd you know? Did you ask? Yeah. No, I know you felt good about that one. No, bro, come on. No, because you don't want bad things that happen to people. I don't want this to be true. Exactly. I don't want the reality of the world to be that all of our institutions are run by satanic pedophiles. But if that is the case-- Well, a little piecey. But when they mean to me-- He does. No, yes. Yeah, yeah. That was God right there. Yeah, see? God worked very mysterious way. And very suspicious. He does the most mysterious way, is ever. This guy was sort of subtly passive to Mark. Well, guess what? He begs. - That famous room, that day, she was destroyed forever. - Yeah. - Shout out to God, that was a mysterious. - This is beyond me, does it sound good? - Yeah. - Any other thoughts? (laughing) - I mean, it's insane. It is insane, the amount of people connected and how sick of fantic they were towards him. - Yeah, there's an interesting element of like, just like the high school locker room dynamics, never really changing. Like obviously Epstein was running like this, extremely vile and treacherous sex-trapping operation, much of which involving young women, and also was convicted for trying to procure a young woman for prostitution in 2008. So like he's obviously, you know, demotrous. - Yeah. - But the fact that he has access to women, prostitutes, drugs most likely, this island, extreme connections with all these people, that type of influence just draws in everyone. - And the fact that everyone's, do you think that's, the elements that draws people in? - That's an element, at least from the Elon emails, that Elon's reaching out to him, be like, "Hey, is there a party?" And Jeff was like, "Oh, maybe." And he's like, "I want the craziest party of all time." - That was the saddest shit I've ever seen. - And Epstein's like, "Oh, yeah, man." Like he's trying to talk in code. - He curved Elon. He was too hungry. - Is Elon the corneest billionaire? - Dude, I mean, they're all wildly corny. - Yeah, man. - Not Bezos kind of lived. - Maybe the corneest. - Bezos is not in at all. - I haven't really seen it. Like he's obviously like, on emails and like, different standards of them. - 'Cause he was selling books online. - Bezos is on to Big Booty Latinas, bro. - Exactly. - Bezos is on the Bendito TV. - He was on the Bendito TV. - It's Bendito out here. (laughing) - It's Bendito, get it right. (laughing) - It's Bendito! - We're trying to figure out this web of pedophile elites. We can't figure out this guy's name. (laughing) - Bendito! (laughing) - He's so funny. - He's hard, get it right. - So Bezos not involved at all? - I can't say that for sure. - Or his name isn't up in it. - I mean, I haven't even heard anyone mention his name. - Seems like there was an email for like dinners and shit like that. But I don't know if it's like, he's implicated in the way that Elon and the rest of these dudes are. But, I don't know. The fact that Elon is trying to go to the parties and, wow, this one. - And Epstein's just like, hey, man, we actually canceled the parties. The island blew up. We don't do that anymore. And he's basically dead in the whole thing. - It's so funny. - He sent that email on Christmas Day. (laughing) This guy got like 11,000 kids. And on Christmas Day, he's wore underwear. Where's the crazy party at? Ain't that crazy? So here's the thing. Like, Elon's on this whole tie-rave. - He's trying to expose everything online. Like, you see him doing, you know, PR on Twitter. And, you know, I'm gonna pay for the defense of any of the victims if they wanna talk out and they're worried about getting sued, et cetera. But, it is, he isn't like a unique situation because yeah, he didn't go to the island, but he desperately tried to go to the wildest party. Like, if Epstein was like, ah, we just kind of have like a normal party today. He was like, well, when's the wildest one, right? And that means he must have heard that wild shit happens at the island. - Absolutely. I suggest that. Like, if you're going over to your nerd friend's house, you're not going, when's the wildest dinner? - Yeah. - You know your nerd friend is boring dinners. And you're like, okay, I'll just come to any dinner. He's specifically asking for the wildest shit. So that means bare minimum, he heard some wild shit goes on. So bare minimum, it's hose on the island. Legal hose bare minimum. - Bare minimum, right? I mean, I think he says so much. He's like, the amount, the ratio or something like that is gonna make your girl jealous. Her make her feel uncomfortable, something like that. He's like, just the amount of women that are gonna be there. He's gonna make too little uncomfortable. - But, does he try to go with his girl? - That's what one of them says. It's like, it's just gonna be me and me and my wife. - So he's basically writing back, like, yo, don't bring your bitch. - Epstein was basically like, yeah. Why is he trying to bring his girl? - So it says, understood. I will see you at St. Bards. So this is not the ratio on my island might make to Lila. - To Lila, but to Lila is actually-- - To Lila, yeah, to Lila, I'm comfortable. And then, ratio is not a problem for to Lila. - Whoa. - Which, a lot done fact there. Also, how does Epstein type so bad? Every email has a typo. Like, what is-- - Well, it's very good when it comes to text. - Every email has a typo. - It is. - Lots of dots. - Can we just hold on a second? - Of all the things there are to be upset about. - Okay, no. We've already talked about the things already upset about. - Things already in punctuation are the ones that are really violent you operate on. - That's part of it. That's the thing that makes me most uncomfortable. - It's fucking Epstein guys. - I know. It's the hypocrisy. - It's the hypocrisy. - Okay, that's really what it is. - What was that who said that? - That's norm stuff about Cosby. (laughing) It's like, yeah, you know, the worst part of the Cosby thing is the hypocrisy. - Yeah. - I think it's the child. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's like the fact that everything is misspelled. - I'm just trying to understand that, and we've been talking about this before, but I'm just trying to understand the leverage point that he has on all these people, right? Like you look at the, he did this interview with Steve Bannon who's like trying to like rehab his image, right? - Yeah. - And he's unimpressive in it. Like, you know, he doesn't seem like some like mastermind genius. You know, he just kind of seems like a goof a little bit. - Now I'm not saying that you can't also be a smart guy and understand finance or whatever the fuck it is, but clearly he has some sort of leverage over powerful people. And that leverage might have nothing to do with the kid fucking. Like, I think he must have leveraged over the government. - That's interesting. - I don't see it as leverage. I feel like he's just become like the fixer. He's the go-to guy for everything. - So he has a hole. - So you want the drugs, you want the weapons, you want fix my image. - How do you do that without fear of retribution in some way? - And I think you need to have leverage, right? So like my assumption with him is that like, he was doing money laundering. By money laundering, I don't mean like breaking bad shit where you're putting money through a fucking car wash to get off the pay tax. I'm talking about like moving weapons from different countries, right? In order to do that, like in order to get like American weapons into Iran so they can fight Iraq, you need some sort of middleman now. I think there was a time back in the day where America could just do it itself. And then you were bringing it up. It was like the church act or something like that. - Yeah, church committee. - The church committee. Basically where now you need to disclose exactly what's going on and then the United States government is like, well, we can't do that 'cause we're fucking breaking the law in the world. So they needed these intermediaries. So my assumption is they plucked this guy from finance. Now, if you're a brilliant financial dude, you're just gonna go make hundreds of millions of dollars in finance. If you're a guy who's not very risk averse at all, but might not think that he can climb the ladder of finance but is still a sociopathic fucking maniac who wants power and wealth, you might be willing to do a job like that. And if, in fact, he starts working for our government, other governments, and you would work with these other governments because in order to get these weapons over there, you might need to hit up his room big. Okay, we're gonna pass through here and get them there. Great Britain is gonna know about something going on because they're an ally of ours. So now you're interfacing with their spy networks, you're interfacing with their whatever their version of like a CIA is like your interfacing with all these intelligence agencies around the world. And they kind of know you as this intermediary. And now we can go have to have one so we can do bad shit around the world without it coming back to our pocketbooks, which you can check. So now all of a sudden, he's in a position of leverage with the United States government 'cause he gets to go, listen, if you guys arrest me for this little tax thing that we're doing over here, why would you do that? Is it really worth it to do that to me knowing what I've done for you guys and God forbid that got out? And as long as none of this stuff became like a massive news story 'cause my first thought is like all right, won't they just kill him? If they know that he has this leverage over them, just fucking kill him, get him out of here. No one knows who he is. And then I found out that once it became a massive story within a month, they killed him, right? So like he gets indicted and I think within a month of him being indicted, he's dead and jailed. - And what about the first time around? - Well, the first time around he gets that little sweetheart deal. He probably gets a sweetheart deal because he's connected, but it's not such a massive story that they have to get him out of here and he's still useful to the government. - Yeah, and they did kill the story 'cause there was that one girl that was about to put story out. - And then they killed the story. So like, all right, this doesn't become a national news story and things were much easier to control. Remember back in the day, you have a handful of people that were organizing the, you know, what we're consuming on everyday basis in these different media organizations. And those handful of people were probably on that fucking island with him or doing other nefarious activity. Like we see how connected the billionaire in elite classes. It's almost like every conspiracy that you could possibly concoct about the ultra wealthy has been proven true here. Like this idea that like there's this, what is it, there's a group of insiders what was Julian saying, there's that famous quote. It's like, there's a great big club and you end in it. - Yeah. - You know, and who said it? - George Garland. - Garland said it. - And so yeah, to me it's like, he must have some leverage on the government and then I was speaking to Saga about this and he said that multiple times he, what is it called, foyerd? - Foyer. - Foyerd. - Freedom of Information Act. So, multiple times and he pressed whom for that? The CIA? - I don't know who he is. - And he didn't want to do a foyer. - About yourself. - About anything. - Well, he did it. - He asked the government to look up his file or his connection, he did the Freedom of Information Act and he did that twice. - Not himself. - On himself. And to me, what that is, it's a message to the government like, hey, you might want to look up, like things may have changed and the people in charge may have changed. But I want the current ones to know what I've done. So I want you guys to do a little research. Now you know, you're going to let me get away with this shit. Or now you know, hey, listen, this bank, you know, they did some tax evasion shit. I think the Rothschild bank in Switzerland, there was an email and like they picked Epstein like 25 million bucks to like decrease the settlement for them. And it's like, well, why was he able to decrease the settlement? Well, it's like, well, maybe he knows some people on the inside and he has some leverage in the United States government. He's like, hey, can you do me a favor? Let's not make this ugly, you know? And but again, in order for all these people to have such a sick of fantic relationship with him, he needs to have leverage over somebody incredibly powerful. And then with that leverage he has over the incredibly powerful people. He can then gain leverage over all these other people. But he needs to come from a point of strength at one point, right? Like why else is everybody kissing his ass? Initially come from. Because he's rich is like, there's so many people that are rich, right? Like there needs to be some power structure that is put in place with him. And my assumption is that he basically had dirt on not only our government, but every other government that he was working for or working with. And that put him in a uniquely powerful situation where he didn't really have to abide by the law. And when he did break it, they would let him get off. And it seems to be that is the case until the story got so popular that they were like, all right, well now it's just, it's cheaper to kill you is what they thought. Yeah. Yeah, no, no, no. Poke holes in this. Tell me where I'm off. Tell me what I'm so curious about is like how early it goes. Because like his whole come up is still so vague. Like we think we kind of understand it, but like he, you know, goes to school in New York, graduates, whatever. I don't think he graduates. I think he doesn't. Graduates high school. Yeah, high school. Goes to college, drops out of college. Yeah. And then is immediately hired at like the most prestigious. This private school. The Dalton school. Dalton and the headmaster at the time is is William Barr or Donald Barr, which is William Barr's dad. Yeah. And William Barr, before he was the headmaster, started what will be the CIA. Right. I think it was called something else back in the day. We can look at it. Do you know what it was called? Fry or two. And anyway, it was under a different name at the time. The OSS office of strategic services. You're right. OSS. Damn. Okay. Come on. Come on. Yeah. That was nice. You got it. He's got it. He's got it. He's got it. Yeah. Okay. But yeah. It's like the fact that early on, he's getting connected with these elite circles. And from that school is allegedly when he starts meeting really prominent parents of kids that are going there and then is connecting with these parents and then moving up the ranks, getting the bear's turns, et cetera. So he gets the bears. But I'm like, he gets this first thing. But I think people overlook that. How difficult is that job to get to get a job as a teacher at a private school? The most prestigious private school without having a college degree. Yeah. That's crazy. So is he already being groomed at that point? Is he already being set up to do this? You don't think that's crazy? Is he getting set up by the time he's 19, 20 years old to run this life as a spy? Like to be a teacher at a public school you need a master's. Not back in the day. We're talking about, like, I think he would let any idiot teach back in the day. I actually think it was, I think it was actually quite calm and we're like, he looked this up because I think you're talking about it. I mean, we're seeing by this photo, his name is spelled wrong. I was though, though, so weird. But what the, it's I before he knows this T. I. N. E. His name is T. E. I. N. That's what I see right? That's what it says. No. E. P. S. T. I. N. E. Oh, you talk about in the board. Oh, shit. Oh, and he wrote that. I was like, it's like a joke. I don't know. That's not even his name. It's just a weird ripple to me. I'm like, why is that like that? Anyone? That's. Oh, that's it. Yeah, yeah. That's it. Because I don't know what's in this. Okay. Okay. So it looks like a yearbook picture or something was taken. And at the bottom, printed is his name. It says math science teacher and his name is spelled correctly on the blackboard in the background of the image. His name is spelled E. P. S. T. I. N. E. and the E is kind of cut off. And why would he spell his name incorrectly? Or is it a student that spelled this right in? Is he doing like a joke? Like, oh, the teacher. I'm the new guy. I can't even spell my name. Like, I don't know. Okay. So you're thinking that he could be groomed from a very young age. Yeah. So the question is, and then he gets on the Rockefeller board. How soon after this? I don't even know. Maybe like four years, something like that. And his explanation with Bannon is so weird. His explanation with Bannon is this. I think he's like, at Bearsterns. And he's like, yeah, you see at the time, like, you know, if you had a calculator, one of the TI 84 calculators, you could do all these very professional computations, you had a huge advantage. And so they poached me and they say, you're going to be on the board of the Rockefeller thing because I had a calculator. Wow. What? Because you have a calculator. You're now like on the board of this extremely prestigious organization. At what age is he on the board? Like 20 something. So this is before Bearsterns? I guess while he's at Bearsterns. Well, he's at Bearsterns. So he spelled Boo with his calculator. Yeah. I got calculated. So God you win him. What's the vision? Was he working at at Bearsterns? I think he was just like a trader and then like he was like working his way up. My understanding is that they placed him in a specific division, right? And that division could have been used if you were going to launder money to, you know, what's it called? Transfer weapons around the world. Like if the United States government is doing it, they're not doing it through their own banks. So you're going to have to find a bank with him once where you can't transfer these funds or do other stuff. I forget what the division, BRCC or something like that, can you look that up? Like what division was he at at Bearsterns? Then you just saw one of the names of our fathers from an option options trader working in the special products division and then advised the bank's wealthiest clients. That's all I have there. What was it? Oh, yeah. Black right. I think it was that. I don't know. Yeah. It was worth it. Black right. Black is coffee. America's coffee. Bad ass. Good God. Good God. Good God. Special products division. Special products division at Bearsterns. Quickly advanced to be wealthy clients on tax mitigation strategies before becoming a limited partner. And then he gets fired, right? Following a violation. But I'm like, look, we can all speculate how he gets his money as a less-wexner. Is it Robert Maxwell's secret fortune or is he being set up from the time he's 19 years old to be inserted into these institutions? So why him? That's what I don't understand. What does he show at 19 years of age that they're going to let him be one of those powerful and influential people on the planet? That's what I don't get. It could just be coincidence and that, of course, the person is going to get connected to all these things is the person that's in these institutions. So therefore, it's just like survivor bias. I don't know. The story hit us with a fantastic. I don't even. What would you frame this as? Because he's not presenting this as fact. A theory. A fantastic theory. A story, a narrative. Not like the soap opera. So I guess the lawyer. What was his name? Edwards, who is representing some of the girls that he had assaulted and trafficked down in Palm Beach. I believe of him. I'm not mistaken. Or something, Edwards. I believe I could be butchering this. He gets access to interview Epstein's long-time house cleaner, house manager, Bradley James Edwards. I'm pretty sure this is the case. And they do an interview with him. And one of the things he says is like, yeah, Epstein was kind of wealthy. When I knew him, he was living on the Upper East Side or whatever like that. And then in 1992, shit changed. He gets the mansion, the houses. He's talking about buying jets and everything. So like something happened around that time. And then Julian says. In 1991, Robert Maxwell is. Is he. Found guilty? Where is he guilty? He passes away suddenly after falling off a boat. Where are Maxwell's? Galein Maxwell's father. Yeah. And people are saying massage by, but he was also like this media magnet. In the UK. And. Falls off a boat. Falls off a boat dies, you know, always happens. But what had happened is that he was getting. He just tried to do a back flip for the first time. Exactly. That was it. I should have happened. But what had happened is apparently his companies had gone broke and he was stealing money from the pension funds of people in the UK and you've heard this story. But Julian posits is that that is not the case and they didn't go broke and that he hired Epstein to essentially extract all of his wealth using his ability to like move and longer money without detection around the world. And he takes the wealth on himself and Galein is at his hip because that's her access to his fortune or which is really her fortune. But if it maintained under Maxwell's name, obviously would go back and pay all those people that they stole money from, etc. All the wealth would be seized. Like they seized everything else, even though there was, I guess, nothing there besides like real estate. Anyway, interesting theory, how he can go from 1991 to 1992, you know, be worth hundreds of millions of dollars, have to know where. Who knows if it's actually true. And having money is important. Maybe she's the mastermind in all of this. Well, some people say that. Yeah. Some people say that he's actually working for her. Because it's working out for her. What was the Reddit shit you told me about the other day? Yeah, Maxwell's whole thing. A test like this. This is now that the account that was being. Yeah, this theory is that she's the one that is moderating world news and a bunch of other massive subreds on Reddit controlling the daily narrative of what people digest about the world. Learned different from her dad. Her dad, obviously a media mogul. And yeah, it's basically just like learns how to control information. She starts the account shortly after Epstein is allegedly starts the account if this is her. Shortly after Epstein is arrested like 2006. And yeah, basically is posting every day 12 times a day about world news, geopolitics, all this stuff under this account called Maxwell Hill. And then in 2020 when she's arrested, the account goes ghost doesn't post to this day. So people are like, yeah, it's pretty obviously her. She has like different sort of British little aphorisms inside the messages and things that she's posting. She says that her birthdays in December, like the account person says that her birthdays in December. Her birthday is December 25. There are gaps within when she posts that line up with her mother dying like a three or four to gap. And then also another gap where she's speaking at a conference of some sort. So it could be coincidental. It could be the fact that there's an account with the Maxwell thing, William Maxwell. There's all lining up as possible. And moderators have so much power on Reddit to make some stuff more popular than others. So now you're controlling what people see. Yeah. I mean, I mean, the fact that Epstein is meeting up with the fortune dude way really in the game. Yeah, can you break this down? I mean, to my knowledge, basically, the emails reveal that like in 2010, 2011, something in that window Epstein is meeting over this guy moot, who is the creator of fortune, which is just another sort of anonymous messaging board that is massive and can really like sway a sort of public opinion on the internet. And basically after meeting with Epstein, the subreddit poll politics is created. Now, is that because Epstein wanted to create it is because he met this guy and was like, oh, this guy is like a power player. Like I should create a subreddit or like a, you know, fortune board to like talk about him. Yada Yada. Why was created is to be able to say is credit the day after they met. Yeah. But the fact that Epstein is like keeping tabs on these media power brokers in this new era of information and information transfer is very interesting to me. But at this point, he's probably like what, like 50 something and he's tapping in with like deep cut internet shit. Did you know about fortune in 2010? You know, it means like he's more savvy about what the new wave of propaganda and media is than almost anyone else. And to me, that's just like another really illuminating part of this whole thing. Like if Galen is doing the Reddit thing and he's having the fortune guy, it's like, oh, they're actively trying to control what the narratives are around this new generation of media. And they were completely right about how people were going to pursue media in the future. A big bet that he makes, you know, 15 years ago on fortune and on Reddit turns out that they actually are the hubs of where people get information. I don't know. I find that to be very interesting. Now it could all just be coincidence and bullshit. Who knows? I'm not an expert. Imagine setting your makeup then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new groupie setting mist from Maybelline New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all day comfy grip. Try new groupie setting mist from Maybelline New York. Maybe it's Maybelline. She's housing it in so much shit. Mm-hmm. I mean, the fortune should have crazy heard the four night thing. Oh, go. I have I heard that the four night debunked is out of us. Yeah, there's a theory that went around those fantastic that basically four night debunked, but also is the CEO four night in the fuck. Go to theory. I mean, to my understanding as it came up. Um, okay, so this epic games debunks, fire ellipse the Fortnite account claims. Basically, there was this thing where Epstein had an Apple account, I believe, that was connected to an Xbox account or something to that extend with the name littlest Jeff one and then someone found a Fortnite account with the same name. And they made this jump basically to say that these are the same people. So Epstein legitimately had a littlest Jeff one account, but then there's also this other Fortnite account and the account had been buying stuff through the time that Epstein was alleged to have died. So people are basically saying, is it possible Epstein's alive? And well, he got discovered. There's multiple cool wrinkles about the four night thing because he recognizes the value of like in game money. And essentially is a form of almost like crypto. And he's seeing this and he's going, oh, wow, people are buying gold or whatever to buy products within the game. And there's this money within the game as actual utility. Yeah, there are robust digital economies that the Fed or the SEC has no access to. So now if you're a guy who's in money laundering, and you're looking for clever ways to move money around the world undetected. In a world that has become increasingly, I would imagine skeptical of how money moves around. Maybe not. Maybe all the elites are down and they're part of it and they're making it possible. But I don't think it's that crazy for him to be like, hey, I play this video game. I'm going to transfer you 20 million dollars to do whatever fucking horrible thing that you need to do in this game. Now I wonder if they can track them in the game. I wonder if you can get fortnight to hand over whatever documents these are not even nerds of pedophiles. That's crazy. Never thought it would think. Well, the warcraft is also involved in this like the idea that people were they were buying money from a company that Steve Bannon owned in China that would get in game money for World of Warcraft that you'd be able to buy and then buy in game items and sell. So there's like a laundering idea that Steve Bannon and Epstein were laundering money through World of Warcraft in 2008. I mean, again, I don't know how this exactly works, but let's say you are doing it. Let's say you're in China, right? You need to get your Chinese money out of China. You don't trust it. You're buying all this stuff within the video game. Maybe China allows this video game. And then someone on the other end, you're buying that from. You're buying all these things that you don't even fucking need. And then some of the other end that you're buying them from now has your actual real money and that's turned into whatever currency you want to be turned into. So now your money's out. Now you don't have to buy a duplex in Vancouver. You have to go through this whole rigmarole to like own real estate that you're not even used to get your money out. Anyway, he's clearly looking for clever ways to move money around undetected. Now, why would you move money around undetected? Now, you're a rich guy you want to not pay taxes, which just seems like none of them do and fuck all of them because of that. But what if you need to move money around because you need to do some pretty nefarious shit around the world? What did you need to pay underage prostitutes? Well, that was another paid. Somebody's getting paid, maybe not them. That was one of the emails, like the procurement process is what people are talking about. So this is a guy, Siad, if you could look at the files, S-I-A-D, it was his last name. And basically, he just went through this whole sort of system with this guy, I forget his first name, but last name, Siad, or Siod, I think. And then Jean-Luc Brinnell, and then, yeah, this guy, Daniel, Daniel Siod, and Jeffrey Epstein, basically saying, "Hey, this guy's going to find us people around Europe. He's going to procure women for us." And then he will then be compensated $3,000 a month for these services. Second. Eurus. And basically, in these emails that lays out this whole thing, allegedly of how women would be procured through these modeling contracts to then get into Epstein's web. Which was just another thing that a lot of people speculated, like, "Oh, how did this all work?" It was a very systemic organized process that was very business-like, whereas you had this person that brought in women, and then women would then come in, they would likely be victims/survivors. And then they would also, many of the women on the inside, would then act as procurers for other women. They would be on the inside. And it was like an MLS, like, you would basically bring in women, either they would get brainwashed, they would be victimized, they would be given a deal, I don't know, and then they would then procure other women. And it was just this entire web, and this email, once again, just kind of puts into concrete detail of how these systems work allegedly. Why aren't the women saying names? Well, I think one that's a good question, but two, it's like, if it is a complex web, why don't we know any of the other figures that are involved? Like, why are we just hearing about this Daniel Siyad guy? The FBI said there is no one else involved. Yeah. Oh, okay, so it's probably nothing. Exactly. So, I mean, in 2008, there was, like, other co-conspirators that were named in that original conviction, that all kind of got swept away. Epstein was the only one, and then served like an extremely reduced sentence, and like, all of his charges were reduced. Question about this, question about this, specifically, then I want to hear what you have to say. It's like, okay, it seems obvious from this latest, the latest, Toronto files that just came out, right? You have all these people, incredibly wealthy, powerful people that are connected, right? And while some of them might not have done anything horrendous, like maybe Piratea didn't do anything horrendous, maybe to who knows? Right. Yeah, fuck that guy. Well, it's fucking for being mean to much. Yeah, but like, while he maybe didn't do something horrendous, we don't know. There's no proof of that just yet, right? Just being named in the files is not implication of criminal activity. It could be, but not everyone that's named is a pedophile. But it is for everybody, except Jay-Z. Yeah, except Jay-Z. In the court of public opinion, you're immediately crucified, right? Yeah. And so they've given us names of very powerful people, right? Yet they're still protecting names. Yeah. What that lets me know is that these are the sacrificial lamps. - Ooh. - Hey, like, the gates is a thing. sacrificial lamb. Oh, shit. That's a power. That was at one point, the richest man in the world. Like, I know there are people that have more money and they're not even on these lists, because if you were actually the richest man in the world, you wouldn't fucking let people know who you are. Yeah. But like, if Bill Gates is part of the sacrificial lamb crew, who are the people that are still redacted? I mean, Thomas Massey and Rokana. Shout it to them. Shout it to them for pushing this like crazy. They just, they just saw more files and they were like, they're still names redacted, 70%. But they said they're six, was it co-conspirators? There's six names of co-conspirators that were, that they, did they get access to their names or they were. And I mean, Thomas Massey, it seems like got access to all their names. It is basically putting pressure on Congress to be like, either unredact these files or I'll just say who they are. Yeah, because there's no reason that they should be redacted. I like that guy got courage, bro. Both of them got courage. And they're doing the right thing. Yes. But you know what they do. The reason it's courageous is you know what they do to people who look like they're going to cooperate because Epstein was cooperating. That's another important thing. Epstein, was he going to? That's what, I think we could look it up, but that's when I was talking to Saga. He was saying he was cooperating. And then they murk him. Oh, I thought we didn't even get that far. That's my understanding from, you know, my convo with Saga. Okay. Again, who knows? But that's even more of an indictment when you think about it. Like the second the guy who's organizing it all goes, okay, I'll let you guys know what happens. He kills himself in the prison. That's why it's also weird. It's like Glein speaks with Trump's former lawyer. And then all of a sudden now she's in a nice cushy place. And all of a sudden she's pleading the fifth. And she's saying, that's weird. If you let me out. She knows she says if he gives me immunity immunity or clemency is that the way? What's the difference between clemency and immunity? Yeah. I thought clemency you take away the charges immunity is just like, you still have the charges. But anything I say can't be used against it. Got it. Okay. So she wants clemency to talk to clear Trump's name. And it's like, well, if his name was clear, yeah. Why do you need clemency? Four clemencies after. That's what they're saying. Got it. Okay. But like to me, like if she's shrewd enough to indict him that way, like is she smart enough to go, yeah, I'll clear Trump if you give me clemency. Well, if he's clear, why are you even putting that on the table? Dats. Yeah. She might be shrewd enough, but she doesn't have to be because her attorneys are meeting with her being like, hey, just say this. You know, like you have enough smart people we're going to have a past. Yeah. Okay. Here's what you're going to say in order to put pressure on the right people. Okay. So now that we know that everybody from Trump, Patel, Bondi, Bondino, like everybody that was involved in this, ah, this is just a hoax. We don't have anything like they're alive. They're all on record saying versions of this, right? With the latest tranche, all of that is a lie. Yes. Right. We has it been proven effectively that it is a complete falsehood. What exactly is a falsehood? The statements that this is just a Democrat hoax and this is, I don't even know what that means. I guess he's trying to frame like this is a witch hunt against me. I did nothing wrong. They're trying to use this to slander my name. And they wouldn't use it when they were in power. Like to me, they also know like both sides are incriminated in this. And that's why I wasn't brought up when Biden was in power. Yeah. Like they had the opportunity to go look into this stuff and they obviously didn't expose him. Now him framing it that way, I don't think is, like they're just waiting for Trump to be back in office so that they can do it. It just seems so peculiar. Like it's obviously you're protecting something. Maybe you're protecting your friends. Maybe you're protecting yourself, right? And I'm being delicate with language here, right? But like bare minimum, we have these six co-conspirators, uh, conspirators that their names were redacted, right? And anytime Trump's name is in the files, almost it's redacted. Yeah, right? I mean, we can talk about the one Don T. Oh, yeah, this is interesting. Like there's just a random reduction on the word don't. And you can clearly tell that it's don't. Like the sentence is like, I blank will go there. Or I don't want to go there. Whatever. You can understand. And uh, basically don't just redact. And people are deducing like, oh, they just went through with some type of LLM to redact anything with Donald Trump. Oh, there's like an AI anytime Don Donald Don T. Don't just black it out. And you have so many files that it would be probably impossible to go through every single one with a human being. We're talking about three million emails just like that, right? So you kind of have to leave it up to AI a bit. It's low key. Like, have you seen the office? There's a scene where Michael Scott writes a whole book and he puts to white as like this dumb character and then command F changes all of it. But then they're reading it. And then there's one that's duet. And he spelled to white wrong. And he didn't change that one. So then they realized that he actually put to white as the dumb character in the book. And then it became this whole drama. But literally it's the office in real life. Like in the files that like they're trying to redact these things and accidentally redact on the wrong things that show their hand. So Ricky Gervais was in on the whole time. Exactly. Well, like, so, so what happens? Like once it's like Cash Patel, for example, said he looked at everything and there's nothing there. Yeah. What did he say on Rogan? What kind of bullshit propaganda was he? That there's no credible evidence that there's co-conspirators in a sex trafficking web. Yeah. To something like it's worded pretty peculiarly, if you really look at it. Oh, you think that he's delicate enough where he can defend it? I think so where it's like, technically, there is no that. He's like, if I saw anything illegal, we would be investigating it right now. Yeah, exactly. And it's like, no, the sort of sex trafficking operation was state sanctioned because it was done with impunity from the dot, dot, dot, like some type of legal magic to try to make it seem like technically the statement is true. But the spirit of the statement is obviously not true because he of course had co-conspirators. Right. So he has been given orders to protect powerful people and devise language that will allow him to tell the truth while lying. I think it's probably the most likely thing. There also might just be like a realization when you're in Patel's situation that you get in and you go, oh, if all of these files leak unredacted, all of the institutions that hold up the world order will change. So that's it. So that's there was a part of me that thought. And I wonder if they're going to play this this hand. But there's a part of me that thought that they were going to bring in Congress or those of the people that were on the board that actually want to see all the files, etc. There's a part of me that thought they were going to bring them all in and go, here it is. You guys ready for the world to burn? And they were going to walk out and go, guys, there's nothing here. Now, I don't know if they will. They're also so pot committed. Their reputations are on the line. They're saying that these powerful people are involved in there being protected by Trump in the administration. And Trump is also protecting himself in it. But is there a version where it goes so high up and it's so entrenched in all these different countries that there's a version where government itself would implode if the information got out? Is there a version where even the people pointing it out saying that they're going to expose it, trying to protect it? Is it too big to fail? Is it the banks? Is it the housing crisis? Is it, are we going to bail out these bankers? Are we going to do it again? Are we going to bail out the people that put us in this fucking mess? If history tells us anything, probably. And that, I think, is the most frustrating part. And I think if you asked the American public in general, would you rather uphold a system that exists for the purpose of child sex exploitation in order to do all the nefarious deeds that need to get done? Or do you want to just tear down the whole system because it shouldn't exist in the first place? Burr, tear down. And that's why I think they're not giving that as an option because the American people and I think people of the world don't want to live in a system like this. So the fact that this exists at all, I don't think it's an aberration from the system. People are like, oh, the system failed, done it out. I think this is exactly the system was set up to function. And we just got privy to it. Yeah, this is a feature of it. It's not a bug. This is built in to how it works is that you get at a level of wealth power and influence and you're able to operate outside of laws and regulation. Any of that should. So I think it's a built-in thing in that if you want the system to change, you fundamentally have to change the whole, you have to tear down the system. So here's the question. When people reach a certain amount of wealth and status where they have access to this insider club, right? The club that none of us are invited to. Are there people that have access to it? And like, let's say like a, like a Bezos or whatever like that. Can they operate? Like Bezos is promoting Trump, you know, he's there at the inauguration, he dumping the money in, he's making the Washington Post change. It's narrative a little bit to be a little bit more favorable. Are these people? Is it possible these people are working within these systems of power because they go, well, in order for me to get what I want, I got to work with these bad actors. And that's the other way that I can achieve the things that I want to achieve. Is it possible that these people are doing it and know about the nefarious activities and are turning a blind eye to it? Or is it possible that they are unaware of the nefarious activities, meaning like child sex trafficking, this type of like a black male leverage? And they are going, but I'm still going to operate above the law because that is the privilege of the powerful and wealthy. I think it's all they above and that every person probably has a different foray into it. But in my opinion, like just the way that the system is built, that once you get to a level of power and influence, any other identifying feature goes away, like your nationality, your race, your sexual orientation, all that shit is gone because your entire motive is just personal growth, a grandisement, and protection of your own capital interests. So you just get to a level where like, "No, that shit even matters, it's just all alignment." So who's aligned with making me more money? - Oh, is it Trump? Okay, well I'm gonna give him whatever he needs and I'm gonna stand behind him at the inauguration and I'm gonna cozy up. - Exactly. And like all this other shit is sort of like a flowery, kind of moral of a near the put on stuff to make it look like you're doing the right thing at the back on the behalf of the people. But none of that shit matters. - What's interesting about the files is, you don't really see any like athletes or entertainers. We were talking about that. Have you noticed that? - Yeah. - Like Jay-Z's name comes up but it's like barely and it's some like unverified-- - Yeah, that was some bullshit. - Whatever. But again, you don't really see all these actors or you don't see all these people that we view as kind of famous and influential. - Yeah. - And my assumption on that is that the real elite don't see actors and athletes as actual elites. They see them as toys. They don't actually respect them. They're like you don't actually move markets. You don't actually create something. And meaning you can't actually generate and create wealth. Like you can shoot a basketball into a hoop but the second you're 40, you stop being able to do that and you're no longer of value. Whereas if you're creating business and moving markets and changing geopolitics, now you're a player and you're someone that I have to fear. And I feel like at this level, it's not even do I like you. It's do I have to fear you. And I think it's pretty obvious that Epstein had enough connections or you have to fear him. And there's this sick of fantasy. It's like they wanted his connectivity. They wanted what he had and it was obviously beneficial to them. Like there was that strategic alignment that you're saying. But I think that there's also something deeper which is simply, do I have to worry about that individual? If I do, I'll be nice to him. Because it's more beneficial to me to cozy up than to go to war if someone who can actually hurt me. An athlete can't do anything to me. It's what I think these billionaires are thinking. They're just toys. We just, you know, we have fun and we watch them do the thing. But they don't need to be part of this system. Yeah, kind of interesting, right? They're also easier to neutralize. Where it's like, okay, if this person is outspoken with a big public audience that can sway public opinion, that could be dangerous. But I could also hire them for a birthday party and pay them an insane amount of money, become friends with them and we're like cool. And then that might, you know, neuter any type of bad PR announcement. So this is the thing where it's like actors or entertainers never really had that kind of influence outside of, you know, saying whatever virtue signaling thing made them look good when they accept an award. Type of stuff. With the invention of like new media and podcasts, all of a sudden the influence of legacy media dips down and now there are these new sources of influence, which forced the elites to have to pay attention to what is going on here in the same way. They forced to pay attention to what's happening on Reddit, force to pay attention to happening on 4chan. They're like, oh shit, narratives are being moved outside of the traditional structures that we already kind of owned and operated with and were friends with. Now we got to worry about this other stuff because they can influence the world in that way. Whereas they never had to worry about entertainers before because like Billy Eilish isn't really moving the needle that much. Like she can say no one's whatever illegal on stolen land or whatever like that, but it's not actually changing structures in America. Yeah, it's kind of wild. I'm really interesting to see peace so bad. Yeah, I go, I go, I go with Bill Clinton in Hillary. Yeah, like how they're, they requested for the deposition to be public. Yeah, like that's interesting. Well, what do you think that means? I think they don't want to be like used as pawns and like not be able to control what comes out of that deposition. So they have a private deposition and then the powers that be leaked whatever they want from them. Yes, yeah. Now also, if the powers that be are working against them or be against the Clintons, if they're willing to just kind of discard them because they're like, you're the old world order. We don't need you anymore. You guys are about to die anyway. Who gives a fuck? We're gonna, you're the sacrificial lands as well. Making it public. If the Clintons have anything on the other powers to be, all of a sudden makes them go, if I go down, you're going down. So asking for it to be public might stop it from happening at all. Oh shit. Right? If it's private, they could redact all the shit like they're going to redact them from the emails. It's going all in. If you're gambling, you go all in. Yeah, if I'm going down, you're going down with me. And then all of a sudden they go, "Well, we don't really need you to do this." Yeah, they'll fold their hands. I thought they're just gonna be like, "Oh, well, this is public now. So now you guys have to behave in terms of the questions that they're asking me." No, you're also right out. But in the more nefarious version, or like the more conspiratorial version, it's. I think it protects them. So protects them in multiple ways. It's like, one, you're not going to leak information that's going to be negative about me. I can control what goes out. And two, you know what I know. Yeah. Yeah. And if you want to get cute, I'll get cute. 'Cause if everybody knows who they're interested. Right? I'm tuning in for that. It's a nuclear war without the nukes. Yeah. The war is your connection. The nuk is your connection to Epstein, right? Like, if you are connected to him, if you're homies with him and you've been lying about it, you're nuked. So, you know, like, I'm curious what happens with Lutnik, this guy who, I think he said, he stopped having contact with Epstein in 2005 or something like that. And he told this story about him and his wife, or like, you know, when I saw him, it was disgusting. And I never went. And then I don't know when he goes to the island with his family, but I think he takes his family to the island, which is odd. But again, if you're lying about connectivity to that person, right? Yeah. Well, on some level, I get, we're talking about Lutnik. On some level, I get lying, right? 'Cause you know if you're connected to him at this point, it's over for you. Yep. So, for self-preservation, you're creating as much distance as possible. I get it. But if these files are coming out, you would think that they would try to get ahead of this. These things are amazing, by the way. Shout out to your old cop. Yeah, I was like a little like, you know, out of it. And I'm locked to fucking it, okay? Yeah. Anyway, so, you got less. But yeah, it's like-- I drew it. Yeah. But yeah, it's a, like, I think he said in 2005, those last time they connected, then they show that there was like many more connections, even up until when was it 2013, or I don't even know when the latest is. But, yeah. I'm a little disappointed at America right now. Talk to me. Because I keep seeing overseas, anybody mentioned in the files is like, they're being either stripped of their titles, being fired, or even people who who who who who who. Like, I fuck it. Well, we have print Andrew, of course. But then there's another guy right now, they're Mendelssohn. Yeah. They're upset at the prime minister just because-- Here's to him. Just because he recommended some guy who was kind of adapting. And I'm like, God damn. So just a recommending guy who was close to up, Epstein is getting you clipped. Like, they're standing on business over it. He's ambassador to America? Yes, I believe so. Right. So it's like, they're standing on business. I think they're standing on business when they start clipping people with actual power and influence. The ambassador America is like a cushy position where you do jack shit. The being Prince Andrew. He's like a meaningless-- Still in a man-proof ball, coming up to the prime minister. They're being critical to the prime minister. They haven't asked him a step down. It's true. Yeah. But they haven't done it yet. Like, what I'm saying is we're doing the same thing. We're old into people about-- like, we have people in Congress that are going, hey, the president is protecting a child pedophile ring. That's true. Right? And we want the names. And they're redacting. And the FBI is stopping this from happening. And all of his cronies are lying about it. So it's like, we're pushing, too. I don't know how far the UK or any other country involved is pushing to get people actually ousted. Okay. They just seem like they don't know. If Kino Starmer is forced to step down or they call some, I think they can do like special elections with the parliamentary system, right? So if they can do that and they get them out of here, I'm like, oh, okay, that's a big move. Yeah. What you got, Miles? It's just a frustrating. No one's actually going to be held to any standard. Like there's no-- As I feel. We can ask Kino Starmer to step down, we can like kick Latin out, we've got Acosta in trouble. There are so many people within these files that are like actually bad people who did insanely bad stuff that we aren't going to be able to have. There's going to be no jail time. And all the people that actually were ever in these files are dead or Galeine is in a cushy jail. So I think Alex, you brought up this question earlier, right? And it's like, where are all the victims? Yeah. And how can we give the victims a platform to speak? And will the victims recognize these people? And that is another question I think is important, right? Which is like 20 years ago, you hooked up with some like old fat white guy, do you didn't tell you his real name? You don't know who he is? are the And like, the owner of the giant-- - I forgot, I forgot a few of my bodies. (laughing) - It's like, it's like, unfortunately-- - I worked in traffic. - But no, but that's the thing, like this is a horrendous, that you're traffic, and you're like, with all these random things. Like, are you able to point out the owner of the giant's allegedly? Like, I don't know what the owner of the giant's looks like. Could you tell who he was and, you know, how he's different from these other people? I wonder if there's a circumstance like that. We're like, I went through all this horrible stuff. They didn't tell me the names of the guys. Obviously, they're doing illegal shit. So I don't know who they are. And they weren't necessarily famous at the time. We're talking about rich and powerful people that weren't known. It's not like it was actors doing it. Then you'd be able to go, oh, that's the guy. I wonder if that's part of the reason why they've been hesitant to come out and go. - I think there's a bunch of reasons. Like, of course, what you're saying, like, the nature of the operation is compartmentalized information. So, like, Epstein knows one thing. These guys coming in for a party know another thing. And then the women, they're actually being trafficked that potentially are a part of the black and white operation only know what their specific duty is. Do this or else we're gonna come out with your family, destroy your life, your reputation, et cetera. All the other, like, intimidation and coercion tactics that go along a section. - And we're lying to you about who these people are. - Sure. They're purposely confusing these girls. - These girls might not know that it's recorded. They might not know that there's a payment situation. We, again, we don't know the exact details of how it actually operates. - Also, where are the recordings? - That's another thing. - 80 cameras set up in every room or something like that. We don't have a single recording. - That's the smoking gun. That's the shit they keep them from. - Okay, let's go ahead. - I don't want to see K-Porn, but that's where the shit is at. - At this point, at this point, there's not a single person on the planet that believes he killed himself, right? - And some people still think. I mean, he might have been allowed to kill himself. - He might have been allowed. That was gonna be my saying is they come in and they say, it's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be you. Tonight's your night. You're gonna do it. - That would be the most-- - Which is barely killing himself. - It's the most gracious version of it. - 'Cause didn't the corner say the way his neck snapped, there was no way you can do that. - No, he said that the wounds were somehow connected with a fixia through someone's hands. So it could possibly. It could've been that, but also through a roof. Yada, yada. I don't think he comes up. - Yeah, maybe I don't think. - And as time has gone on, I'm even less confident that he's dead. It's possibly he might have just been fucking scooped up. - I don't know. - Yeah. - That's just like my general vibe. - At this point, I'm like, I could believe anything. - I mean, it would be easier to kill him and try to sneak him out and keep him alive. 'Cause it depends how much leverage he has. If there's a dead man switch, I don't know. So I had a, ooh, dead man switch. - I had a person say this to me. Take this with a grain of salt. 'Cause everybody, it's a person told you to talk to another person. So this is all like, whatever. - The salt I got. - The rumor was, he had three dead man switches. And the intelligence agencies found two of them and upon finding the third, they killed them. Who knows if this is any corrupts? - Orc is fucking true. - Whatever I got. But like. - They found a turquoise. - Yeah, I can kill them. - Most of the turquoise. - That is far. I heard that joke. - Oh, sorry. - No, his, oh, I thought you were doing a pawn off of whore. - Oh, yeah. (laughing) - That wasn't wrong. - Yeah, that was a good joke. - That was a good joke. - Anyway. - We need dead man switches. - For what hour? - I don't know. - Did you just think this was by? - Did you just incriminate us? - Yeah, why not? - How would you need a dead man switch? - You should have a dead man switch. - If you were trying to take you out and you want to compromise them with blackmail. So who's trying to take you out and what kind of blackmail do you have that would ruin someone's reputation? - I mean, I know. - I can go. - I know, you don't shower all the time. - You did shower today, huh? - I did. - You know, I knew he showered. He came into the Bruin Idiot studio and it was like a bouquet of flowers walked in. Like, I've never, I've never had him walk in a room and it smells so bad, isn't it? Did I keep like a sniffing around? Cause I didn't understand what it was. But you, and you use a fragrance when you have shampoo? - No, that was just cologne. I got a cologne. - What? - Yeah, I don't know. - A ship roughing home? (laughing) - No! - It was the half of the show, bro. - How you doing? - Half time show going fired up. - That's good. - That's good. - Dude, Bandito's going fired up. - What is that? - It's a pheromones and all that fucking gays shit you used to say. - Bro, it became a problem. - Is it? - It became a cologne, just more pheromones? - No, but it was different pheromones. - Yeah, but they worked better. It's like pheromones. - Stairways. - Oh, loves his natural pheromones. - Oh shit, man. - No, you up to something, bro. - No, I'm right. - That probably my natural pheromones were lying. - What's the tension? They sell body odor if that's what women wanted and they do. I actually just talked to a perfumer not too long ago about this exact thing. - Oh yeah, so the stinkyest people made perfume and cologne. The people known for smelling like shit. - Yeah. - The French. - Okay. - We didn't know about those over there. - You know? - Yeah. - It was just like potholes, potholes, potholes, potholes. - No, we didn't know about them just yet. So the French were known for smelling like shit and they were like, we gotta do something about it so they made fragrances. - Exactly. - Yeah. - They're a dirt on my name, but I grew up out here. - You French Canadian. - Exactly. - Come on. - 30 in you. - Nice. - Which is good. - 30 in the back. - Nice. - Okay, so what's the deal? Do we ever find anything? I mean, oh my God. - I don't think so. - But the videos, where are those? Is that part of the other? - Hey, Kasper, tell us if there's no videos, dude. - There's not a single video. You don't remember that? - Yeah. - The guys are recording nothing. - So the crazy parties that Elon wants to go to, like, no, he said there's no, - I wanna see the videos. - He said there's no, um. - Blackmail? - He said something specific. Why don't you look it up? - So I'm saying the language they use is just, it's particular. - Yeah. - I mean, he's an attorney. Like, the guy knows how to, like, sort of legally is up a little statement. - All right, guys, we're gonna take it. - Let's get back to the show. - Imagine setting your makeup. Then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours, with flexible all day comfy grip. Just clump, dewy, hydrated skin that still feels like your skin. Try new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York. - Maybe it's Maybelline. - Really interesting is I remember this summer, the first time they said something about kind of discarding the Epstein stuff. Do you remember we said something about it on the pod? With me, we were like, oh, I guess we're the idiots, I guess we're the assholes, we're like that. And then the White House responded. - Yeah. - Do you guys remember that? So the White House gave a statement. They're like, oh, Andrew Schultz, I think that, you know, he should be happy. It's something, blah, blah, blah, blah. - Oh, okay, I do remember that. And I was like, I should have known right there. That they were, I mean, obviously I felt that they were covering it up. And that's why I was like, what the fuck is going on? But to even respond to me, that means that they're in like immediate, oh shit mode, right? Like I knew it and I pushed and I was like, what the fuck is going on here? But it was so peculiar because they campaigned so hard on exposing it. Like the Bungino guy and Cash and Trump are campaigning on exposing it. And immediately getting office is there part of you that looks at it and goes, like where do you take that? Do you go the only way we can squash this is if we get an office? - No, because the Democrats had it and they weren't going to expose it because all their donors are in it as well. - I think they underestimated how fervent the base was for truth on this specification. - How could they do the, usually they're pretty calculated and understanding. - That's my assessment. They go, look, we're going to get all these influencers that control the narratives around your right wing discourse and we're going to bring them in. We're going to give them these binders. They're going to have all these files with all these money invited all of them to the White House. - And that's going to be what we need to get this whole thing covered up. And I bet you that was the plan from the beginning. - I mean, how stupid. - Yeah. - I wouldn't. - What an unbelievable miscalculation. And now you see Trump going like, "Hey Bill Clinton's a nice guy." Why would he? - Oh, what are you saying? I know. - You haven't seen it, he's like, "I like Bill Clinton." You know, he's always been nice to me. They asked him, they're like, "What do you like about Bill Clinton?" He's like, "He's always been nice to me." What do you like about him? Hey, what do you like about Bill Clinton? I like that he could make me look like I'd been 13-year-olds here, that's him. That's what I like. - Allegedly. - Oh man. - Oh man. - So what are the chances that he is, okay, here's something. Do you think that Trump's timeline with his friendship with Epstein makes is accurate? - No. - Meaning you think he maintained the friendship after? - Yeah, I think they just had a small falling out because they were fighting over that woman or girl. I don't know. They were going, and that's not the falling out. The falling out is even, you would hope that that was the falling out. - Oh, it was like they wanted the same property. - Yeah. - Like that he stole the property from me. - I think the illusion with a lot of like the Trump, like loyalist is like, he saw that Epstein was trying to take girls from Mar-a-Lago and he kicked them out. He said, "No, no more." And that would be really great if there was somebody with that type of moral compass in the office. - Yeah. - But like that, he said that, I do think there's a little truth to it. It's like, I think he just took one of his girls out of the place and he was upset about that. - Fair, but apparently they were beefing over a piece of real estate, and that was the final straw. It's like, you could take the teenagers out of here, but if you go after that fucking property, it's the hypocrisy. - He hate it. - Okay, so the timeline being like, they stopped being friends after that real estate thing. Do you believe that? Do you think that they maintained? - No, I think they maintained. 'cause I think for Epstein to be such-- a big player, especially in Florida because he's right there, the island's right there, so I'm like, you can't really just be like, fuck you. It's like, I'm not fucking with you, but you know, we still share a lot of friends. We can be coarser. I just don't really message you. How powerful are the people that he's protecting that he's willing to. Let's say, for example, hypothetically speaking, the timeline is accurate, meaning stops being friends with him after that. I think that's when 2005 or something like that. Then he gets the pedophile charge in 2008. He gets convicted in 2008. To 2008 conviction. Never talked soon again after that, right? So how powerful are the people that Trump is protecting? Or does Epstein or the powers that be have incriminating evidence on him prior to 2005? Evidence of him doing any, you know, I mean, we'll mention horrible fucking things, where he's willing to go down with the ship instead of just exposing it. Because if he did stop being friends with him, and he was sure that they didn't have anything, knowing Trump, wouldn't he just sell everyone else down the rip? That's what I'm saying. It might be such that it implicates literally everyone, like monarchs and heads of state. But we have this oil deal, and these people impression me saying, hey, if you don't redact our, you know, king's name, we're going to not sell you this oil. And then oil prices in your country are going to go up. We can extort you through economic means if you don't get rid of our stuff. Or this financial thing. How much leverage do these other countries have over us? I don't know. It might be personal. I'd be like, hey, we're going to give you this jet, but we're going to give you this like private thing in order to cover up this thing that someone in our country. The problems these files are giving him right now. It's if he wasn't implicated. Yo, put this shit out. Look how quick. Look how quick they folded on ice, right? They get pushback on ice. And immediately they send home and in there, they're probably maybe they fire know them. I don't know if they do. They take out the other guy, what was his name? Bovino. Bovino, right? They go, we're going to prioritize criminals. We're going to do so it's like they do bend to the whim of the people and to the markets, right? So and that is that is that is somebody I was talking to Michael Moynihan who is saying this and he was like, shout out Mike Moynihan. And he was like, that is to the to the argument about him being authoritarian. There's no question he is authoritarian tendencies, but authoritarian's don't bend to the whims of the public. Like the leader of Iran is an authoritarian. You guys are rebelling on the shoot you all, right? So they're bending to the markets. They're bending to public perception. Knowing Trump, you you don't think that he would just lay all these motherfuckers out in a silver platter, unless in my opinion, I think like 20 years will go by and we'll be like, how did we ever think that it wasn't? Yeah, but I think he's obviously implicated in some way by proxy, but I also think it implicates legit everybody. So if Epstein is the guy to go to him, he's a fixer. He's a guy who can like massage your reputation to the public. And I'm about to run for presidency. You don't think I'm hitting up this guy? Also like his guy who is going to do a PR rehabilitation for Epstein is a guy named Steve Bannon who was Trump's campaign manager for the 2016 term and his White House. What is the position when you essentially? What is what was Bannon's position in Trump's White House in 2016? And then I think he eventually gets fired. Yeah. And then right after it gets fired, he goes and rehabs Epstein links with Epstein. White House chief strategist. He was white have chief strategist. Come on now. So the tentacles are in. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it seems pretty obvious from all the circumstantial evidence. It's kind of shocking that there's not like one singular like, yes, look, you know. But what about his bandit? Is Bannon getting a share from his people? Like, yo, why were you trying to help this dude? I mean, he got to be out of here. I don't even know why people let that do speak. I've always thought this way about Bannon. He operates is such a weird kind of murky figure. I don't even know really his story super well. And like all the details around him. Sagan. He's also rich in his 70s. Like he doesn't, there's no like company he's going to get fired from. And I don't know if he has like fans. I just think he's an operative when he's probably a spot. Oh, I thought he has like a huge fan base. I think he has like, he's like, he's mega. I think he's co-opt as a mega piece. He's like a mouthpiece for existing. What doesn't he decide like what's mega or not? Like, I don't think he has that type of pull around. I don't think he has that type of gravity. I think that he can like organize thoughts for these groups and then be the most sensational about them. Probably say things that the politicians can't say to really like, rile up those bases. But I don't think that he's actually moving people or markets. Okay. I thought he was like one of the main guys trying to kick Tucker out the shit when. I think he's too unhealthy looking. Like you have to. He looks, he's done that on stop him. Look at Trump. So here's my question. You look, you know how we like look back at like history and you look look about like the Greeks, right? And like all the the Greek aristocracy. The rumor is that like they had these little boys that they would fuck. It was like, well, Unix that they would fuck. And we're like, oh, this was commonplace at the time that like the rich and powerful would have sex with children and all of them had a little concubine. In a thousand years, do they look back at history now and be like, oh, yeah, the rich and powerful would just fuck. Yeah. Okay. That's just like has nothing changed in two thousand years? Yeah, but I still thought that shit was disgusted and nasty. Of course, we think he's discussing nasty, but we think it's like the past. We go, oh, look how weird the past was. Look how obscure and like look how just I don't even want to call primal just like disgusting this behavior was, but it was commonplace two thousand years ago. But we're dignified. This is ancient. We've civilized over time. Yeah. We're civilized beings. We would never do something like this. And in a thousand years, they're going to look back at us like with the fucking Greeks. We just switched to girls. They're like, oh, they stopped being gay around the year 2000. And then they just kept it with young girls. That's the other thing that's wild is like we don't hear about none of the gay shit. There's nothing. Well, there was some email that talked about Epstein, Wexner, I think, having a relationship like a sexual relationship. I heard with a rumor about Wexner is that he's been sweet. Right. This whole time. And that's part of the reason why he was so tired of Epstein pun intended is because they were fucking Epstein, Wexner. That's what I was reading. So we're supposed to believe that Epstein is the shit. That shit does not come across my shit at all. What you've been so poor against his bad money. I don't see anything on the internet. No, we'll make fun of the elections. They put it on the Super Bowl. They put it up there. They did have the electric poles up there for that reason. Okay. And it was a metaphor for what? The bad infrastructure that they have in Puerto Rico because we're supposed to be connected to America, but we can't get funding for electricity. Yeah. We'll tell those guys to stop playing dominoes and start working on some electricity. We need those guys. Those guys are retired. We need years. We need them. They visited a fun world or two. Yeah, man. So I think the web is deep. I don't even know if anyone knows like the story. Like I think it's you know something. You know a lot of stories. Yeah, tell us. What are you thinking? Come on for it. Come on for it. Take your hat off. I mean, again, I don't know if anyone knows. I think anyone that's like, here's what happened is lying because I don't think they're I bet I'm willing to say that this is probably so compartmentalized that people intimately involved might not even know. Like does John Luke Brinnell know how deep Epstein's like intelligence ties go? Or is he just like, oh yeah, he's just like a rich guy that likes young women that it up. Like does his connection with Alexander Acosta that gives him the sweetheart deal? Does he know about his like foreign passport with Vienna? Like does anyone actually know the whole story and does Epstein himself know how he's being utilized by these foreign actors? Like he obviously knows the most, but now he's not there. Galen probably knows the second most, but she's in prison taking her for the moment, right? So to me, I'm like, does anyone actually know the entire thing? Yeah, I think it'll be years until all of it is unpacked. They got to take down his team because it takes us 15 people to do a fucking podcast for him to have that type of ring with two people. Yeah, come on, bro. I mean, and of course there's people that are connected to it that are just quiet. Like his assistance, his co-conspirators, his former girlfriends that are just not being affected by this. Like that to me is also crazy. Like they must have known or at least should be questioned about what they knew. And they're going to just get off scoffery. Oh, yeah, the ex-girlfriend. That's yeah, Purina Juliet. Purina Juliet. Miles got his eyes on her. Yeah, I mean, she got a hundred mil. What was her thing? She just started. She's like, I'm going to reveal it all then it was just like a crypto scam. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, she was on Twitter talking about how she's going to reveal it all, but she's a dentist. She's a bellerusky and dentist that apparently was doing dental work on the island. You've seen the pictures of the dentist's office with the masks? Because all the weird faces and shit. It's so weird. Some people say, oh, Epstein was just super particular about teeth. And he wanted everyone to have perfect teeth. And so if someone needed dental work, he wanted to have a dentist on the island at all times. Who he coincidentally was also dating allegedly. Now, is it also possible this was used to like remove people's teeth so they couldn't be identified and then thrown in the ocean? Yo, how do you go to a dentist's office with that. Weird right? That's strange. This is just on the island. Yeah. cover. Oh, this is actually, yeah, that's my knowledge. This is on little saying James. Oh, I thought this was like her practice. No, but it's a weirder that is on an island. Like, imagine someone gives you an island, like you won these games. Yeah, you got an island. Yeah. Would you put a dentist like it's just so strange to me. Okay. So I saw some pictures of the island. I saw this take on Twitter. I thought this was a great take. Uh, it goes if anybody, if you believe that any of these billionaires are going to this island for the views of the amenities, you're out of your fucking mind. And I saw the pictures and it does just look like an all-inclusive resort. It doesn't, it doesn't look that fancy. It's like a Marriott somewhere. Yeah, but still private island is fire. Well, well, well, well, well. There's a use for it. Why is it? Why is it fire? I think just being on a private island has got a fire. And why is that? Yeah, I ain't doing no fuck shit. No way to get that. But you could do drugs. No, it's the same reason why being on the boat is fire. Being on someone's yacht is fire. Yeah. Because there's no rules. Okay. That's what people get. When you're in the middle of the fucking sea, there's no cop that's pulling up and telling you what to do. So if you're going to the island, you don't need all the fancy amenities because the amenity is there's no rules and we can do anything here. You want to go skinny dips? Sure. You want to do drugs out in the open. Do it. It's like like when we're kids, you build a fucking treehouse or something like that. It's this idea that you have a space and there's nobody there watching you could do whatever the fuck you want. That's what fucking old, you know, that's what these billionaires are doing. So the question is, if you're not going to make it fancy in this like ultra luxurious experience, it's not the amon, right? If it's just a place that has beds and sleep and some food, what is there? It's bringing the people. What's the value problem? What was that big square thing? That's the color of the Israeli flag. Oh, the mosque. Yeah. What is that? It's an empty temple with nothing in it. That was the wildest wrinkle where they found like there was like a piece of the cloth that covers the cover of the cover of Mecca. Yeah. Like something gifted to them or something. And the story was that he was using is like a like a on his foot rug or whatever. Prayer rug? No, that he was using as like this is the story. I don't know this is true, but it's extremely sacrilegious of it is that he was using it on like a like a format. Oh my gosh. That's what the story was. I saw on Twitter. I have some fact check me on that. But Muslims come for it. Yeah. No, but what was that structure? Like what happened in there? No, no. It was a building, an outhouse, a shed. But like it's empty inside. Like it's furnished. Like what it's just they did it is a line. That's where they did it. That's the whole thing was a dental operation. Yes. It wasn't even finished inside. Like it was like partial walls and shit inside. Oh, they weren't done. Okay. Or that's why that shit out. And then we see yeah, they busted it down. They built it to make it look crazy. I don't know. I also think there's an element of like the satanic ritual abuse stuff that I've heard people say this. I don't know if it's true or not. I don't even know necessarily how prevalent satanic ritual abuse is. Like this kind of got like kicked off with like the satanic panic through the 80s. And then kind of got like written off like, oh, this is just like, you know, mentally deluded people or a schizophrenic people with these crazy delusions that are not true. And then your guy busted into that spot in Cali, which guy? The one we on in the podcast with the weird voice. You would just quote them. Boy. No. No. That guy. We had him on the pot. Crazy dude. All conspiracy theory. Oh, Alex Jones. Yeah. Yeah. And he busted into that place. Same first name as you and you couldn't. He's not going to behemian grow. Yeah. And saw this ritual. It's difficult to say necessarily what was happening behind the grove was like ritual abuse. It's possible. But I don't think he necessarily documented like children being sacrificed or sexually abused. With that said, part of me goes, is this done? To poison the well? To make these claims seem so absurd is what done? Like satanic ritual abuse. Like it's possible that just these people are interfacing with like a spiritual satanic force that controls the whole world. I'll leave room for that. I'm less moved by that theory. I'm more moved by the idea that these people do these things in a ritualistic way that seems absurd in theatrics so that if someone ever stitches on them, they go, what do you tell me? There was like all these famous people and there was a fire and everyone was dressed up. Like this is obviously absurd. But it allows them to get away with it with some impunity because the story is so crazy. Now they're not to mention the victims of any type of sexual abuse. Typically have trauma from it. And if they stay in the system long enough, they oftentimes will develop like emotional attachment issues, chemical dependence on drugs or alcohol. And that also affects their faculties later on so that their testimony of what happened to them is even more stripped from reality. So you basically have this pool of the most vulnerable people in our society that can be abused with impunity because 20 years on line when they go to testify. Nobody will believe them. No one believes them. Their story is crazy. There's holes and there's gaps in the stories because potentially there were on drugs when it happened or they had a substance abuse issue after it happened after they survived this trauma. And then on top of that you have a society that's like, ah, these bitches be lying. So all that. And then on top of that, it's like, oh, they signed a deal that they would basically not testify against Epstein in 2008 because that's a part of his settlement with them and that they can't say anything and implicate anyone else. So you have all of these things. You have the legal system going against you. You have the court of public opinion going against you. And you have, I mean, straight up like biology and physiology in your own psychology being done against you through this trauma. So I'm like, yeah, why are women not coming out about it now? Like look at Virginia Goofrey. She got killed. She is dead. And she was sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, I say she got killed. I said, yeah, she's dead. Sorry. I mean, it is wild. Like the most famous one who comes out just ends up killing. Yeah, Sean Dwayne's name. Brunell. Sean the Brunell. Yeah, I'll also kill himself suicide. And what was Brunell again? He was the Wrangler. He was connected and had like a fashion house in Paris and was close allies with. So that's the other thing. It's like, if you're, if you're a congressman, you got to be worried about them taking you out. And at first, they're not going to take you out directly, right? They're going to try to malign you and destroy your reputation and, you know, get the internet to come for you and just try to do whatever they can to strip you of your power. If you can get past that, then you got to be worried about them just straight up killing you. And that's if you're a sitting member of Congress. If you're a girl that has been trafficked for her not only adults, but like juvenile life, they already think of you as disposable. You can't even imagine what they would do. And you would hope that your lawyer would have some sort of protection. But there's also a version where it's just like what law agency is taking this claim up, knowing full well the people they're going up against. You don't think that they're getting some nods and some phone calls like, hey, it would be in your best interest not to take up this case. Yeah. Which is why I think like the material conditions that underline all this like wealth and equality and all that shit is something that should be acknowledged because Epstein was able to do so much of what he did. He was able to travel on a private jet to a private island to commit crimes because he was rich. He was able to meet and connect with all these really powerful people because he was rich and just aggrandized more power. When these victims were doing these things and taking these modeling contracts. And in many ways were being coerced because of their they had nothing. They're financial conditions. They weren't able to get lawyers because they were poor. The other people that were surrounding from their families. They were intimidating coerced. They couldn't get legal support. And then all the other people surrounding this that all are hush about it are also hush because the material conditions put them in a position where they need the money. And they're not going to speak out against generational wealth for the family. Also, they're in a very peculiar situation where it's like if they do speak out about it, they indict themselves. Yeah. Right. So it's going to take somebody who's willing for the whole world to be like you aided and abetted pedophiles in the destruction of children. That being said, by doing it, you maybe get to expose it. So it's not that you're not going to be ever looked at as a hero. But it is a brave act that doesn't take away from the horrible destruction you did. But it does. Before you die, you get to at least do one good thing. But then you go, okay, well, those people now have families. They have kids in school. Like what happens? So all these people that ate it embedded, they might not even be doing that. They might even be in the business anymore. They might be selling insurance somewhere. They might have a fucking coffee shop somewhere. But they know what they were part of. Are they going to speak up? Are they going to stay silent until their name is revealed? Think about it. It's a woman going through that right now. She was a former New York city-based DA. And she's the one who argued for Epstein to have a lower level of sexual, whatever that's called, charge, charge, basically so that he would either be like a sex predator for a year on the list, or for like, to his whole life levels within. Yeah. She argued it should be lower. Yeah. And then she's backed out of the DA and like got herself out of it because her name's all over the list. And it's like, was she, it was a compartmentalized? Was she aware? Was someone talking to her in her ear? Like, it's a, it's a tough thing to navigate. Was she a bad person doing bad stuff? I don't know what person argues for you to have a lesser charge for trafficking children. The argument is she only had the data in front of her from the Florida thing. And in the Florida thing, it's a super light charge. So she's arguing, yeah, it should be fine. But apparently if you look into her, her past and her history, she's attached to Weinstein and all these other things. So it's yeah. Yeah. There's people in the files who are actively changing their lives right now. Yeah. Some guy bought Epstein Island. Yeah. You guys go. Would I go to the island? know. Now it's not best. Now it's just. Well, who buys it? What if it's what if it's a cool guy? A cool billionaire? What'd you just go in general? Some guy bought it. I mean, for what purpose am I going? What's the, what is the condition? Hey, this is like, this is the new same parts. Do I get to investigate? Can I get to go around and check out the bunkers and report all of it on the. No, I'm pretty sure everything's knocked down. It's just new. It's just like, oh, no. They just breathe. If I get to go do like a cool YouTube documentary, explore it around like that guy, I don't remember his name on YouTube did this for you. Yeah. He stuck on the island at 2023 and that's where we get a lot of the images. Hell yeah, that's awesome. They're like a part of an uncovering your part of the. Yeah. The getting information out there as far. Yeah. But just to go part of an island, bro, at this point, I'm good. I got a kid. What did the island do to you? You are poor, right? Islands are beautiful. Nothing wrong with an island, you know? Really? The little place to island. The island was there before. I've got to pull a billy island. You know, there's no one's a sex driver on stolen land. Come on. Come on. That's a good point. Are you never going to go to Jeremy? You know, you know, you're not going to go to Poland. No, you got to give us some time. You got to give us some time. You got to sit on the island for a little bit. Yeah. You can't build anything there. What do you even put there? What could you put there to? Yeah. And we got to at least wait 18 years. She's average. We're 20. I mean, we don't need to put that into the gun of a number, but I'm just saying we silly enough. We're talking to silly. You're finding it. I don't like this effort immensely. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I'm probably going to skip on that. Has there been anybody who went to the island that described their experience? Yeah. Who? I think Brett Weinstein. I don't know if he went specifically to the island, but he met with Epstein and has been like very forthcoming with the entire, the nature of their conversation. And what did he say? Basically, Epstein just had an interest in, I mean, this is again paraphrased. He had a hilarious thing. He was talking about the, the way that they were speaking about non-Jews in the, in the Epstein files. You can see his tweet about that. And he's like, I've, I've known Jews my entire life grew up with Jews. We have never spoken about non-Jews about like this once ever. This has never happened. This is something completely unique to Epstein and his growing. And it's just like, dude, just watch Jackie Mason's comedy. It's not, it's not that crazy. This is what people did back the 70s. You're just like, this is our group and other groups are different. And we will make fun of them because I grew up in a Jewish family with many Jewish friends. There was Jewish pride, but I never once heard anything like the derisive exclusionary talk in the Epstein files. It is grotesque. Anti-American, anti-Western. There's no place in our society, especially near power. That is true. But to say you never heard that. Yeah. You just sound like a boy to me. It's just been going slop. 'Cause now everyone's just going. You know what I mean? We kind of reclaimed our word. We've taken it back. We finally found a word for why people that were offended by it. Like, like, you've been trying to do this for years. It's just like I'm going to tell all my people. Just start calling white dudes going. Yeah. That shit hit. That's all it worked for real. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Now the problem is you're also a boy. No, no, no. Thank you. That's just, I don't want to be bad. You are a boy. Yeah. You're a big old fucking boy. You're an island boy. That's what you're in there. You're a boy, dude. You're a little going. You're a little going cattle. Did you like the Superbowl watching a little goi slap? Just eating it up. Chris Tucker, I think he spoke about it. What is that? Time on the island. Can we find that? 'Cause I think he went on the plane. It was Eric White's son that talked about it. Not Brett. Eric got it. Brett may have talked about it also, but the guy I'm talking about specifically was Eric. I blame Epstein for the reason why we never got another rush hour. But are we getting one now? Bro, did you see Jackie Chan talking about rush hour? No, he's so funny. Jackie Chan is doing an interview time about rush hour. And he's like, I went and I did this movie. I'm not going to do that. He's like, I went and I did this movie. And it was the worst movie I had ever read. I thought it was a terrible script. And then my agent calls me and goes, the movie's number one. They want to do a sequel immediately. I was like, what? And then we did the sequel. He's like, I just don't understand American humor. American jokes make no sense to me. Never touch a black guy's radio. Why? He's white. He did the whole movie. Three of them didn't understand anything. Jackie Chan has no idea why it's funny. Maybe that's why it's funny. Yeah, because he was acting dramatically. He wasn't acting, bro. It's unbelievable. Oh, man. Let's see what Chris Tucker got us out. You know, we flew Bill Clinton and a lot of different of, well, that was a humanitarian trip to Africa. And I met him on that trip because it was his plane. I didn't know who playing. We was getting on, but it was a whole bunch of dignitaries. People lose with a delegation. And yeah, I met him and, you know, you don't know people what they do. They're private lives. So, yeah. But yeah, I mean, that's great. He was on a private plane. And you could tell that I want the private plane because they called it what the Lolita Express. Oh, yeah. It was a private plane. Yeah. Oh, yes. Wait a minute. You just never go to that island, did you? No, no, no. Oh, my bad. I thought he was on the plane multiple times. But don't respect who's he talking to? He's talking like the bad guy and true detective. But he's on Instagram live getting interviewed about the abstinence. So you went to the plane. Yeah. Chris is like, yeah, man, I went. I jumped on a plane. It's like, well, this is news. I'm just. Why would you do blacks, but you won't do Asian accent? Come on, bro. We don't try to get an SNL. I don't want Asian accent. You could do blacks. So that's fine. I was a black people are Americans, all right. Wow. Wow. Wow. I can't dig it. Motherfucker. Oh, shut up, boy. You know what I'm trying to do. I'm just saying to all agents, they're fixes, they're all the Jake Paul. No, I don't know why. Why did that? I guess I wasn't because, yeah, I have a light to stand on it. I might have been doing a poor weekend accent. Who's really this up? So you went on a plate. Who is that guy? So we're going to have someone break all this shit down for us next week in a much better way. Exactly. We're going to get the guy that has been Chris Tucker. He's going to get to the bottom of it. Yeah. Exactly. I do want to know the real shit though. Like, I think, well, you know a lot, but I still think it's like surface level shit. I want to know the real. What is the real reason all these fucking documents? That's what I speak to this. What's the real? Like, who actually read the documents? That's, that's what I want to know. Yeah. It'll also be awesome to see if Thomas Massey starts naming shit in the next week. Yeah. What does he have to lose outside of getting murdered? Like, what does he have to lose by doing outside of that? I mean, his family, but like, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, his life is reputation. They'll find a hard drive on his computer. That's like, oh, look, we found out your place. Isn't that crazy? You were projecting this whole time. People in this dirty game, wouldn't they have already done that? Like now that he, I mean, he's clean. He's clean. He knows his dirty game. I don't know. I don't know. You go up against the institutional powers that be paid of many ways to take it down. I don't know. But then he would have stopped already. It seems like he wants to do it. Him and Ro. I think if they did it, man, to start naming shit on the Congress floor. Yeah. Like, are you, you're a hero. Now granted, you have to make sure that these things are investigated. But who do you trust to investigate? That's also the thing. It's like, who do you trust to investigate? How can you make sure that they're actually investigated? I'm sure that's what the FBI is saying. It's like, all the reason why we're adapting is because there's a current investigation into this. It's like, oh, is there a current one? Have you been investigating this for the last fucking 20 years? Is that what's happening? Oh, yeah. Then they like, just open up another investigation just so they can like, not release certain shit. I remember like right before they were going to release it. Yeah. They like opened up another investigation. Yeah. And then there's all these people that like, I basically was saying the same on camp, where I was like, yeah, I just like, what do I do? Like, what do you do with this information? Like, how do you react? Like knowing that the world is run by the most evil people ever? Like, how do you deal with that? And I was like, you focus on what you can control. And the people were mad. They're like, no, man, you can't do that. You got to speak out. You got to revolt. What does that mean? Like, the people I talk to don't want to like destroy everything. Don't want to like protest. People are expecting that. Do you want that to happen? I was going to make a bad joke. It's like, I mean, it's the same way you still go to the Catholic church. So they got really good people. They moved them to a different panel. I'm sure they just all stopped being beneficial. Yeah. Well, the Catholic church is a good example. It's like, let's say that they didn't, let's say that they didn't just move them to a different parish. They call it parish. Yeah. Yeah. Let's say they didn't. Let's say that they locked them all up. The Catholic church still exists. The institution still exists. And I think that there is this like, do you even heard Massie and Rowe talking about it? Like, you know, if these names come out, we can. look at the implosion of foreign governments and all that other stuff, I don't know if that happens. Like I think a lot of these people in positions of power, we replace them regularly. So we can replace these people. And the whole idea of democracy we're actually going to have one is that people are replaced. We don't want Pelosi in there for fucking 60 years, right? We don't want these lifers. We want people to be in and out, ideally, and the new people are coming in and reflecting the problems of the people currently, not people that are talking about managing or maintaining the status quo because it just benefits them and their cronies. So the idea of like the system imploding, I don't think the system implodes. I think that you get a new version of people who are running the system and they will ultimately if they're not already be corrupted, of course, and then those people need to be shed it again. And that's just how it goes. I mean, because when we don't shed the people in charge, do you look at the countries that have these like dictators for a long period of time, it just gets more and more corrupt. Like absolute power corrupts. What is it? A power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely or whatever the animal farm quote it is. But so yeah, this idea like everything falls apart, I don't know if it does. Oh, the CEO of some bank needs to step down, okay. What does the bank also close? No. Right? People are going to still pay their fucking mortgage. The banks can still lend out money that they just print and the system continues. No. At the end of the day, at least they'll be justice. That's what I hope for, but this idea, like we can, what if we let these names out? The whole, they'll be a global financial collapse and governments will fall apart. It's like, no, they won't actually, like every four, eight years, we have a new dude that just goes in and takes charge of the most powerful country in the world. It's kind of like an insane concept, right? You don't think we can manage locking up a couple of these fucking pedophiles? Yeah. It's not like a mob. It seems like, it seems like a stoking fear to pacify the public. It's like, they're too big of a fail thing, it's like, we're just going to bail them out because the alternative would be disastrous. Disassure for everybody is like, well, will it? Well, let's try it out. Let's try it out and see. Yeah. I'd imagine we'd be pretty resilient knowing that powerful people were given justice for their heinous crimes. Yeah. I'd imagine that we'd be, okay, I don't think that we'd be, I don't think we'd be riding the streets if we know that there was justice that was given to them. Yeah. I think we might be riding the streets if we know that they were avoiding justice. Another cover up? Yeah. I don't know if Epstein's dead or not, but I know he's in hell. And he's proven to me that we're all in hell with him. I mean, just looking around, like, all right, what do we do? This whole thing is run by the worst people ever. All right. It makes me sad. But the super was good, you know, we should be out that circus was good. That's scary. We love it. No, super. All right, guys. We're going to go on a Patreon and talk about Tony A and Uncle murder, press and job rule. Yeah. Okay. Oh, before Mark slits his wrist. I love you all. Appreciate y'all. Hang with us over there. Peace.