Netanyahu Knew

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Come see us next two weekends. It's going to be some fun shows. I got a bunch of new material that I'm excited to bring out to Louisville and Dallas and Fort Worth. I always thought Dallas Fort Worth were all the same thing until I started going there. They're different cities, but they're next to each other. They're both wonderful. All right. So, for today's show, I wanted to talk a bunch about this incredible bombshell report that came out yesterday in Haaretz, the Israeli newspaper, the Israeli lefty kind of anti-establishment newspaper there in Israel. And it's really something. So, there's this bombshell report. It's kind of unbelievable how it fits into the broader context of the last three years and what's coming up next. And then, of course, the updates today are kind of nuts too, because so Benjamin Netanyahu has announced that he's suing Haaretz. And there's like this whole backlash and he's claiming they made it all up, but who, man, does it look really bad? As many things have over the last few years, it looks very bad for all BB Netanyahu. And this report is very damning. So, it's important, I guess, to even before we get into this, to kind of keep in mind that part of the reason why this is such a big deal is because, well, next month is something kind of very important symbolically, but then it's also kind of something very important politically in Israel. Next month will be the three-year anniversary of October 7th and the three-year anniversary, essentially, of the response to it. And also, there will be the first Israeli elections since since October 7th. So, essentially, according to Israel, Israeli law from what I understand, Netanyahu has essentially postponed these elections as far as you can. So, the whole idea that he had to keep this war going, or he had to suppress an investigation in October 7th, or he had to lead into another war as soon as Gaza was done, or all that, well, the timeline is kind of up at this point and he's got to stand up for re-election. And then, of course, what, you know, which I suppose we could get into a bit on the show today, because I think it's kind of important to put all these things together. But, you know, the three-year anniversary of October 7th is a big deal for a lot of different reasons. And I think that it's a big deal for Americans, for our own particular reasons, that are, like, say, not the same as the, whatever, how that day would be remembered like if you're in Israeli, or if you're a Palestinian, or something like that. You know, obviously, from the Israeli perspective, you can understand where this horrible terrorist attack that happened on their soil, and that a lot of innocent people are killed, that's always, if that happens to any group of people, that is going to, number one, that's going to traumatize your people, that's going to leave a mark, and that's going to be, there's going to be a collective response to the way they tell themselves, that story and the story of their own victimization, like any group of people would be like this, just go ask the Palestinians, they're very similar with their own stories about these things. But from the American perspective, it seems to me that there's a little bit of something different here, like, it's kind of hard, three years later, looking back at this, to not acknowledge from, from say, the radical perspective of somebody who might put this country first, that one of the things that also happened, not as a result of October 7th, but as a result of the response, the Israeli response to October 7th, is that the political system here has been completely upended, and the political spectrum has been re-drawn, and entire camps, both throughout the democratic and Republican establishment, have been split along the lines of Israel. This has been the most politically charged kind of dynamic topic over the last three years in America, and that alone, and then, of course, obviously, the huge implications, with huge policy implications, like funding and supporting a genocide, or launching a war of choice with another nation on bare behalf. So, with major policy issues, but also, it has just, I don't know, it's just dominated the conversation, and it's radicalized people in many different directions, including, I'm not just saying those radically opposed to Israel, including those, like supporting Israel was a much different proposition in October 5th of 2023, than it was one year later, when they were in the middle of conducting a genocide, right? So, like, even just somebody who stayed in the position of supporting Israel was kind of radicalized by the events. So, like, they were more radicalized, and then the anti-Israel people were more radicalized as well. And so, anyway, this is just a huge, huge event, and I think it's, you know, when you have anniversaries, if there's any reason why human beings do have anniversaries, if there's any reason why we like celebrate a yearly event, or even measure, you know, how many days it takes for the Earth to, you know, lap around the sun, and while, you know, like, why we kind of need that cyclical nature to the way we think is because you need the opportunity to go, oh, okay, well, this is, let's reflect on all of this now. And as an American, I kind of think we do have a right to reflect over what's gone on over the last three years, because it's certainly, I don't think anyone could argue it's been good for us. Like, whether you're on the pro-Israel or pro-Palestine side, it's kind of just not good for our country that we're sitting here fighting over nonsense that doesn't even apply to us. You know, I say nonsense, like, it's important shit, but like, you know, we got lots of our own problems, and that's part of the reason why this reporting is so devastating, is because it does speak to this broader kind of story of what exactly happened here. So, essentially, what the, and I highly encourage everybody to go read it. I mean, I think I have to subscribe to Horat's, but there's probably free versions out there you could find, but they're essentially the reporting, now, it's already been reported in other places, perhaps as well as in Horat's, that Egyptian intelligence had passed on the idea to the Israelis that there was some type of attack being planned in Gaza. And that was something, there were some people who made something of that. This to me seems to be much more damning. The story here that they're reporting is that the president of the United Arab Emirates was, um, sounds from the story like pretty fanatically warning over and over again, very specifically about essentially October 7th. I mean, the details of it are like, like, no, there's like a major attack coming that is designed to blow up the Abraham court and completely destabilize the region. Like this is not like something that has not been seen before, I believe, was even described in the piece. And the piece essentially says that the, again, the president of the United Arab Emirates, this is not like a small player in the region, you know, the ruler of Abu Dhabi. This is that he is warning over and over again for months, the Israeli government. And then gets like a week and a half before October 7th evidently gets like a 45-minute phone call with Benjamin Netanyahu, where he goes through this whole thing about what his concern is. And the claim essentially is that Benjamin Netanyahu doesn't take this seriously. He's like, yeah, don't worry about it. We got it. They're not really going to do anything to us. They're planning some activity in the West Bank, but it won't be an Israel proper and we're prepared. And then he he doesn't want. or any of his security staff and didn't like up the levels at all or take any of the most basic precautions. Now, Netanyahu, as I said, is already threatening to sue them. According to Horrez, he has sent them a letter. But the thing here is that, right, this is all at this point, campaign optics. None of that's ever going to get settled before the election, which is next month. And that's what's so devastating about this to Benjamin Netanyahu. But, well, I got to say whether or not, whatever details that you want to like, whatever details that Netanyahu might be claiming are made up or wrong or something like that, it's not even if there's something about what happened in that 45 minute conversation that's being exaggerated. The fact that you have the president of one of the most powerful countries in the region, warning about this, and Benjamin Netanyahu still not, still being so unprepared. Again, keep in mind that, you know, you got to go back and think, look, this is why the late Charlie Kirk had even questioned whether there was a stand down order because some of the times just given how small Israel is, and how militarized Israel is, and how surveilled Gaza is, it was genuinely hard for people to believe that it took hours, many, many hours for there to be response time in certain parts of the attack. And now, there might be other reasons for that. But, oh, man, is that devastating when you find out that the prime minister, whose whole thing he's been running on is, well, and we'll get into that. But when you find out there that he had this, he really did have this information, it's, look, the spectrum of questions that you got to start asking yourself gets, it gets really bad at both ends, but it gets really ugly at the other. And I'm not making any claims that, you know, it's always, I've always kind of maintained that even, even throughout this article, as you read it, it still reads as like, you could ockham's razor this as simply, yeah, Netanyahu's just got all the hubris in the world. Everything I've ever read from this guy, every interview I've ever seen, everything backs that up. Like shit, he totally believes it. And I remember this was very consistent with the way George W. Bush and a lot of the Neo conservatives work, true hubris, like they really believed they could do this, it would work. And all that, you know, when you hear Netanyahu's, you know, his, his phrase of, we can, we control the height of the flame. He is this referring to Hamas and his support for them. Um, yeah, maybe believe that he believed he could control the height of the flame. He believed it would be there. All right, guys, let's take a moment and think our sponsor for today's show, which is sheath underwear, the underwear of legends, long time sponsor, one of our longest, most hard core sponsors, great company run by great people. And it is by far the best pair of boxer briefs you will ever own. I love the product. It's the only underwear I wear. I'm wearing a pair right now. Sheath underwear. You got to go check them out. If you love this show, go support our sponsors, plus get yourself the most comfortable pair of boxer briefs you will ever own in the process. Sheath.com is the website. Go check them out. Make sure to use the promo code problem that will get you 20% off your next order. Sheath.com promo code problem for 20% off. All right, let's get back into the show. That being said, you know, it's just a little bit, I don't like jumping to conspiracies. I like to be like a, or I don't, I don't like jumping to theories or conclusions. I should say unless they're, they're sound, but you know, like once you find out, say, for example, that not only is Fauci not the guy working to solve the virus, but you found out that he funded the thing. You know, he funded the, the lab where the virus was made, and then they lied about it and covered it up. Look, that, you cannot conclude from that, that therefore it's a bio weapon or something or therefore they intentionally released the thing because it's like, oh, no, maybe he just funded it and they tried to do something and then it accidentally got out and then they covered it up because it looked really bad for them. Okay. But like you also can't completely rule that out because like you're just saying like now we're operating essentially on a spectrum of this was an accident you lied through your, you were doing something reckless and crazed that should have been illegal. Kind of was quasi illegal. Then you lied through your fucking teeth about it and covered the whole thing up and this ended up happening. It's, it's that too you did this intentionally and we don't actually know which one it is. But I'll tell you what looks really bad is everything that surrounds it. Everything that surrounds it looks really bad and for a few different reasons. Look, a lot has been made recently of the greater Israel project. This is something that Benjamin Netanyahu himself has said is near and dear to his heart and of course we've covered on this show as people like Mike Huckabee have said that he believes in this kind of, you know, biblical version of the greater Israel project. This idea, which by the way it should be known that is it in, in the history of Christendom. This is a very new Christian idea. You're not going to hear Thomas Aquinas, you know, you're not going to read Thomas Aquinas speeches about how the Jewish people really need to control all of the, you know, political area and Southern Lebanon or something like that. But his view is that God promised, you know, the modern state of Israel, this entire area. And look, I'll say this from all the stuff I've read over the years of both the Israeli government and the Israeli lobby in America, it's not exactly that it's all geared toward the greater Israel project necessarily. But so much of it has been geared toward like the thwarting of a Palestinian state and the kind of expansionist nature of Israel that the greater Israel project seems to almost just be an expansion of that. Like it's like, Oh, I guess they just want to keep doing this. I guess that's the whole reason why they want to deny a Palestinian state is because ultimately they want that land, which has always kind of been the deal. Everybody's always known that. That's the conflict over there, right? The conflict is over the land. Okay. Um, anyway, so if you keep in mind how openly, openly Benjamin Netanyahu has been talking about trying to thwart a Palestinian state for his entire career. Um, this is the longest serving Prime Minister in Israeli history. He won his first election. He's up for election tomorrow, or excuse me, next month, excuse me. He's up for election next month. It's October, 2026. He won his first Israeli election for, uh, to be Prime Minister in 1996. Bill Clinton was in the middle of his presidency. Um, when, when he, what like, uh, you know, just think about that. I mean, it's like this guy has been wielding political power for a very long time in Israel. And I highly encourage anybody to just go read. I mean, if you think that I'm jumping in conclusions here, I highly recommend people, as I've mentioned many times over the years, but like, if you go read his book, fighting terrorism that he wrote in 95, 96, I want to say this Benjamin Netanyahu's book, uh, you read, um, the, uh, the clean break memo, uh, a clean break, a new strategy for securing the realm by Richard Pearl and David Worms are and Douglas Fife. Uh, and, and of course, there's, um, the companion piece, which was also written by, uh, David Worms are. I'm not sure. Is that Richard Pearl, too? Maybe it was just David Worms or wrote, uh, um, coping with prombling states. And like, read the PNAC documents and stuff like that. Like these guys were, uh, let's just say, for many years, they were very openly saying that the goal was to topple other governments in the, the Middle East and starting with Saddam Hussein, right? So like in 96 in the clean break memo and in fighting terrorism, they are both arguing. We have to overthrow Saddam Hussein. And the reason they have to overthrow Saddam Hussein, well, is because we got to get out of this, uh, Oslo agreement. We got to get out of this agreement to give the Palestinians their own state. And so for whatever geopolitical reasons they had, it gets a little bit complicated, but like, they felt like he was giving back up to like the Arab nationalists. And then they felt like, if he fell that Hashemites could gain favor in Iraq and then they could influence Hezbollah to stop giving Israel problems. And so that they would have an easier time, you know, like annexing Palestine, it was a, it was a crazy plan. But the point is that they kind of always, they very openly always had these plans to make sure that the Palestinians couldn't get their own state. And that's where I'm sorry to say it, but it is obviously a fact that is where so much of this conflict comes from, you know, one of one of the best little anecdotes. I'm sure you've heard me say this before, but I just, as this new report comes out, I think it's kind of important to put all these things together to understand some of the shit I've been talking about in the last few years and how this kind of plays on it. But so, I like mentioning this. This was John Meer Shimer and Stephen Walt wrote about this in their, in their great book, The Israel Lobby. And so after 9/11, Colin Powell went to George W. Bush. Now, keep in mind, we're talking about Colin Powell here, okay? This is not, You know. an anti-war ideologue or anything like that. It's Colin Powell, the general. All right. And he tells George W. Bush, like, look, you got to do a two-state solution now, right after 9/11. And why would he be telling him to do a two-state solution right after 9/11? Well, because Colin Powell knew that that's what this whole beef is about. That's what the whole thing is about. The whole thing is about, is that like there's this Israel, this Israel-Palestine conflict. And they're real pissed off that we back up the people occupying these areas. It's been this dispute for years. We got to settle this thing once and for all. Anyway, George W. Bush was open to do it. It was Tom Delay who talked him out of it and said that lobby will destroy you if you try. And he didn't try. He didn't want to be a one-term president. Anyway, so it's just important to keep in mind like that's at the core of a lot of this, okay? And so keep in mind now, back to the idea that we're coming up to the three-year anniversary of October 7th. Things really did explode after this politically here in America and literally in Gaza. But one of the things that was kind of demanded immediately by the Zionist was that we pay attention to this and how horrible what happened there was. And this was a big, a major misstep on their point on their part. They should not have encouraged people to pay attention to this because that's exactly what started happening and it didn't go well for them. But the big thing that everybody was relying on saying was that what like Moss did October 7th. It's hard to overstate man how much that dominated the conversation for it dominated every debate for at least the first year and a half. It was at least a year and a half of doing debates about Israel Palestine after October 7th before like the first question wasn't going to be like, so do you support Hamas? Do you do do you support October 7th? Do you can you denounce that in front of everybody? Are you like where do you stand on people being gunned down at music festivals or whatever? You know, it's like very strange in a way. But this became the entire Israeli justification and what happened that has like not only like quite literally, you know, it's it's killed like I don't know like probably over 100,000 people and it has destabilized the region. It has been absolutely destabilizing to the political order in America. What happened in the wake of that was that Israel committed some of the most heinous crimes against these poor Palestinian people in the name of how terrible this organization Hamas was, right? So imagine if you're a little old me and you happen to be in the position of no one of thing or two about this right after October 7th happens and you get then you happen to be in the opportunity where you can go on a lot of the biggest platforms in the country and tell people something that like almost nobody knew it was really amazing at the time because I just happen to be paying attention to this shit. It's always been my, you know, my my comparative advantage in this game a lot over the last few years, especially when it comes to the foreign policy stuff is that I've just I'm getting older and I got more gray hair in my beard as you might have noticed and you know, I've been paying attention to the shit for a little while now and so what happens is there's like when you pay attention to the little things that are happening in foreign policy, sometimes they end up blowing up and becoming big things and now they're in the news and everyone's paying attention to them and you got an advantage because you're like, oh, well, I've been paying attention to this for years and so it's like that with Ukraine and it was like that with his real Palestine for sure. So anyway, the thing I kept mentioning to people was like, yo, Benjamin Netanyahu has been propping up Hamas for years because doesn't that just kind of blow up the narrative that you had right there? You know, the whole thing that they were saying right after October 7th was just like because Hamas is such savages and because Hamas is using these people as human shields like golly gee, you're going to have to look the other way while we commit the worst imaginable atrocities. But like when you find out that actually they were funding Hamas for what reason? To thwart the creation of a Palestinian state, that really changes the dynamic, that really, really changes the moral calculation, right? Like it's just it's one thing to say, right? And this is almost what they they how they try to make it sound. The Israelis try to make it sound like, I don't know, let's see, like maybe you're my neighbor and we have an ugly history. But like, I gave you your you have your house and I have my house. And then in your house, you decided that what we're going to do with our family is attack and kill my house. So what can I do? But I have to go and respond because these people in my neighbors are so horrible that I have to go and like, yeah, there's some innocent people who get killed in their house. But like, hey, it's either my house or your house or whatever. Like however you feel about the logic of that, there's a whole lot of different avenues. You could go down off of that. But let's just say that's not the story. And I'm presenting it that way. But the real story is more like, Oh, yeah, I left my neighbor's house after militarily occupying it, you know, after occupying it at gunpoint for years. But then I went outside and I boarded up the entire thing and I still controlled the airspace and I still controlled the phone lines and I still controlled the money that came in and went out and I still controlled who left and came in and blah, blah, blah. And then you see, as I'm essentially awarding over a prison at this point, then I looked in there and I picked the most psychotic gang, you know, that I could find and I made sure to pump money and weapons into them and kept them in power. And then they made the decision to come over and attack my house. And then I use that as justification to slaughter innocent people over there. Well, like, come on, objectively speaking, that's just much different. That is much, much different. That is a whole different moral calculation than the one you first laid out. And in fact, it totally changes like, you know, again, I'm not saying that in the first scenario, you have a right to just slaughter people in another nation, you know, because you were attacked. Like, there's still got to be limiting principles and rules of war and things like that. But I'm just saying that entire like line of thinking is destroyed. If you find out that intentionally Benjamin Netanyahu was actually supporting these guys. And so here's what starts to get so damning about all of this. There's been a lot, a lot reported on Benjamin Netanyahu's support for Hamas. In fact, it got to the point where like, I was out, if you remember, I was out there really arguing this point in a bunch of high-profile debates. And I was all, essentially, I think my, all my sources at the time were Israeli news. It was Israeli media. It was, it was the, if I'm remembering this correctly, it was the Jerusalem post that first broke the story. And then it was Harretz and the times of Israel both had had like in depth pieces on this. And then maybe like 972 or something like that. I can't remember where else it was. But then it was after that that the New York Times and the Washington Post had all of them picked it up. It just kind of all like broke out. And the, now they tried to kind of frame this in a different way than what it really was. And now this is, this is essentially what Netanyahu and his administration are trying to say now, is that they go like, oh, no, no, no, well, like yeah, we did give a whole bunch of money to Hamas. But that was just like, that was kind of like aid to Gaza. And we were just trying to help Gaza. This is what the New York Times piece even said, even though if you read the piece, it's a lot more damage than the title would claim. But like, I think it was called like buying quiet or something like that. So they go like the idea is like, well, we didn't want there to be problems in, in the strip. So we figured like, if we just pump this money in, it would like calm things down a little bit. And the major problem with that, and that's another thing that seems to be blown up by this latest harrat's piece is that it's like Benjamin Netanyahu wasn't trying to calm down the situation. He was never trying to calm down the situation. And then it kind of just doesn't pass the basic smell test that you'd go like, wait a minute. So like, you were trying to have an aid program to Gaza. That sounds like the type of thing that a politician would do through a political mechanism and probably brag about it, which they do all the time and brag about the things that they've done, the greenhouses they've left and all these things. Like, why would an aid program be something where you're sending, and this is how it was reported, that you're sending the massage chief to go beg for the funds to keep funding in. Often, again, read the New York Times piece, read the harrat's piece, read the Times of Israel piece, that they take you through like the logistics of it. Like, it was like suitcases of money to the tunes of hundreds of millions of dollars. It was like, over a billion dollars was one tally suitcases of money going to Hamas operatives. Why would that be the way of, wait, what's going on here? Oh, and then you hear all of the times they admitted it out loud over the years. And it even goes back to, it was the same like, what's his name, not Smotrich, but the other one, the Blinken on his name. But it was the same thing that they had talked about, even back with the whole disengagement plan under Sharon, where they essentially all went, look, this is what Netanyahu himself said. He goes, he said, no, it's about thwarting a Palestinian state. So it wasn't about like keeping him calm at the time. He said it. So he goes, no, it's about thwarting a Palestinian state. You keep Hamas in power. And then look, What are we going to do now? See, this divides Gaza from the West Bank. Now, why did he want to divide Gaza from the West Bank? Why would you want to keep terrorists in power right next to you? Well, again, after this investigation, we're back on our spectrum here, okay? But, and this has always been the theory, probably still the theory I go under, but well, the reason you want to keep the terrorists in power essentially is because then you go, well, look, what do you expect me to make a deal with terrorists? This is your way to never, this is the way, okay? Essentially, then this is how they set it, right? You freeze the peace process. You put it in formaldehyde, which was the famous quote, right? You freeze the peace process with with Hamas and Gaza, and then you can slowly expand the settlements in the West Bank. And that really seems to be the plan. And again, if we're looking back at like the last three years, Israel, this is what we've gotten out of this, right? Is that immediately after October 7th, as a result of that, Israel has destroyed Gaza, and they are militarily occupying. I believe the latest figure was close to 60% of Gaza, and they had just announced that they were going to take more. We've seen over the last three years since October 7th, massive settlement expansion in the West Bank, taken over huge swaths of territory there. They took over huge swaths of territory after Bashar al-Assad Fel, Netanyahu, took credit for starting the process, and he's not entirely wrong. He was certainly involved. So they took huge swaths of Syria. Of course, people know that they just took big portions of Lebanon after this Iran war. And so, look, I'm just saying, that does not prove anything on its, well, I shouldn't say that. It does prove something on its own. It does not prove like where on the spectrum we are with what happened on October 7th. But it is really hard for that to not look very bad. And for people to not start looking at this and going, wait a minute. So you guys actually have grabs territory at every single turn of this. You know, it's like if you were, if you had started out, if someone had asked, you know, asked me about what is, what is the greater Israel project? You know, three and a half years ago, someone had asked me about it. And I'd probably be like, well, it's this idea that Israel, well, okay, look, there are, there are like religious fanatics like Mike Huckabee, who believe it for this reason. But then there's people like Benjamin Netanyahu. I don't really think Benjamin Netanyahu believes that God gave him all of this land. I think he wants to expand his power. And he's quite happy to make political coalitions with people who actually do believe that, you know, God is saying this to them or whatever. But, you know, I always say, okay, the idea is that they can take over all of this land and expand how much they really want this. Are they moving toward it? Well, they certainly want the Palestinian territory. I don't know. Just saying, if you were, if you had laughed that off as some type of conspiracy three and a half years ago, well, hey, it's looking a lot more like real life right now. They're really living a bunch of this out. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is body brain coffee. If you're already drinking coffee every morning, you might as well make that cup work harder for you. Body brain coffee is amazing. I've been drinking it for months and telling you about it. But now the creamer is here, and it takes that regular coffee or even better body brain coffee and turns it into a smooth, creamy, super functioning cup of coffee that actually tastes great. It's packed with functional ingredients like C8 MCT, oil for a quick source of energy, corniceps for performance and endurance support, rodeola for stress, fatigue, and mental performance, and collagen to support skin and connective tissues. Plus, Ceylon sentiment. 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Now, all right, here's what I would say is particularly damning, just kind of like putting, trying to lay all this context out there because I know a lot of this stuff is, are things that I've said over the last few years, but I just want to like, it's important to kind of lay it out to like fit where this new reporting fits into that. And this is why I find this to be particularly so damning. When you find out again, if you remember back in, well, back in my day, back when I was young, this was a big scandal in the United States. And I don't remember. I think if I want to guess, I want to say it was like 2002, maybe 2003 that this came out, but it came out that there had been a memo that was given to George W. Bush that had like warned like Ben Laden determined to attack inside the US. And people made a big deal out of this. They went see there it is, smoking gun, he knew, you know, he knew this was coming. And you know, some people probably got out over their skis and said, you know, that's proof that he allowed it to happen or that he was in on it. And then other people would say, well, this proves that he, you know, was just derelict in his duty or whatever. And, but people would counter back and they would say, look, man, the president is probably getting, you know, just like thousands and thousands of memos and getting all types of warnings about things that never actually end up coming true. So it's kind of easy to look back and pick this one out, you know, and in a sense, there is something to that point, although actually, you know, George W. Bush was like really, really downplayed the, the Ben Laden al-Qaeda threat. And that's a whole, another topic, but the point being that there is something to that argument, right? Like how are you, you're not going to know every single threat, you know, it's like, like I knew a bunch of kids, I shouldn't say a bunch of kids, I knew a few kids when I was young who like if they had been a school shooter, it would have made total sense like all the signs were there, but they never shot up a school. You know what I'm saying? It's like it's real easy after the kids shoots up a school to go, well, look, all the signs were there. The thing is the signs are there all the time, usually the kid doesn't end up doing that. So it's like there is something to that, but look, 9/11 and October 7th were just different in a very fundamental way, because 9/11 to some degree, even though the World Trade Center had been attacked by terrorists less than a decade earlier, and even though, you know, like hijacked planes were not like the crazy, the idea of like terrorists from the Middle East, like the idea of like some Egyptians and Saudis going in training in Europe and then sneaking into the country and taking flight schools and hijacking planes and turning them into missiles and flying them into the Twin Towers was not like the obvious thing that you should have your eye on. Like that, that is a thing that they pulled off. Oh, they hijacked multiple planes and sent one at the Pentagon and multiple at the Twin Towers, like, okay, at least I'm just saying on paper, I'm not even getting into for any truthers or whatever who are like, that's not how it happens. I'm just saying like that story on paper is like, okay, you pulled off a crazy attack. People breaking in from Gaza with guns to shoot at you is like, that's more like a goalie keeping his eye on the ball. Like if your Israel, if you live in those communities that were attacked on October 7th and those, where they were doing the music festival and in some of those cabuts and those areas on the south there in Israel, they're right next to the concentration camp that has been Gaza this whole time. It's not like you wouldn't be, it's almost, I mean, I'm not, I don't know, it's like a prison guard walking through a prison, like, oh, the threat is the prisoners. Yeah, obviously, the prisoners, those are the threats, like that. It's just, it's such an obvious thing, right? So you got to keep that in mind. This wasn't like some, I mean, yes, they came by land and sea and air, but like they broke out of Gaza and they came into kill a bunch of people. It wasn't this like crazy thing. You could, it's literally, according to Benjamin Netanyahu, it's essentially the axiomatic foundation of why Israel exists, is to focus on that. You know, like, this is why the state exists. And so now we have that you're getting this really frantic warning for quite a while from one of the heads of state in the area. And okay, so this is what I find to be really dynamic. And I want to see if people look into the timing of this because this is an angle that I'm not sure is, wasn't exactly directly addressed in the piece, but the timing to me seems like it's definitely going to overlap here. Okay. If you read the Hered's piece and the New York Times piece about the Benjamin Netanyahu's support for Hamas, there's the story about when the Benjamin Netanyahu sends the head of Masad to quote the quote is to beg. The funds were drying up. They went to beg to keep the funds coming into Hamas. This was like a couple weeks before October 7th. This is after he's getting these warnings. Just something to keep in mind there. Now, I'm not, again, I don't know on this spectrum where that moves you or where that moves me or where that moves anyone, but I'm just saying like there is something man. That is a really extra little bit of damn information here. This is not just like Ben Laden, crazy Muslim guy halfway around the world set to attack. This is like the head of the UAE going, dude, this is going to like like essentially what it sounds like from the pieces. He sees everything that is about to happen that did happen. And he's going, dude, this is going to blow up the Middle East. Imagine you're the, you're the ruler of Abu Dhabi. You're like, dude, we're killing it right now. We just got it to a point where business is a boom. And like everything is great to don't the last thing we want to do is blow up the region. And so he's just essentially going like, hey, dude, like do something to calm this down, man, be ready. Don't let this be this crazy attack. Don't let it lead to this whole catastrophe that's going to destabilize the region. And Netanyahu is in this period from all that's being reported. Not only not taking the threats seriously, but continuing, continuing to insist on supporting Hamas. And that does kind of bring you back down to the question that Charlie Kirk was asking. It makes you wonder. And on top of this, there is, there is a point that is really worth noting here. You know, Pierce Morgan, he hits the point about how Israel will not allow any journalists in Tagaza so much. I mean, I think he hits it every single time. I think for the last year, every time a pro Israeli person's on a show, he grills them on that. And not yet has one of them had a good answer because there just isn't one. You know, I mean, it's really like, I don't know. It's like I'm on the level of like you just won't show like it's like a cheating husband just won't show his wife his phone. And like, why not? Because you can't, you know, it just doesn't have a reason. Why not? Because there's, we shouldn't have to like, it's like, oh, clearly, because there's something you don't want her to say. So anyway, he has this question over and over and over again. And there's a reason he does. And there's a reason why it really, it's unbelievable how this one question can kind of like destroy all the, uh, Hasbra spokespeople. But I guess it's just because it's obvious why else wouldn't you let people in because you're hiding something? That's all. And in a similar sense, I gotta say, dude, it's like, look, a lot of these questions like right there, when I just laid out how bad that looks. Well, this is what you'd have an investigation for. Oh, what is the one thing that has been holding up an investigation into October 7th? You know, this is, this is an interesting time, man. Israel, you know, I, I rarely comment on kind of like the domestic politics of other countries. When I say that, when I say the domestic politics, I mean, like that, the domestic politics, like I might talk about what another country is doing, oh, typically only really if it involves America to some degree. But I talk about what a country is doing to another country. But like if there's an election in, even in Canada or whatever, if there's an election in England, it's just not really like my concern. But there's something different I think about the elections coming up in Israel right now. And, um, you know, it, I don't know, you know, it doesn't really seem to me from what I can understand. I don't really presume to know the essence of Israeli culture. But it doesn't seem to me that the Israelis even really grapple much with how much their little country has like changed global opinion over the last few years and how dangerous that is for them that they're so hated by the entire world. In other words, just to be clear here, I know Natali Bennett, who's running against Netanyahu, is just absolutely horrible. And he's horrible on, on all the issues that Netanyahu is horrible on that we would hate. Like he's, he absolutely supported the destruction and genocide of Gaza. He absolutely supports the war in Iran. If anything, I think he's critical of Netanyahu for like not going hard enough for something like that. So it's, it's a messy their way, uh, no matter who wins over there. But there's also at least, I got to say some feeling that like Benjamin Netanyahu has got to lose this. Like even if it is not Tali Bennett, who takes over after him and we'll still have all the same problems that we have minus the fact that, you know, Netanyahu is probably just a little bit better at getting stuff done than anybody else. So for that reason alone and be a little bit better. But also just because like, you know, sometimes that guy's just got to lose. Like like the, you know, the message has to at least be sent that you can't get away with this forever. But I don't know what's going to happen. Um, I, I'd imagine there's a good chance that Netanyahu is going down and how the hell are they going to keep this dude out of prison? Once he's, he's out of there. I mean, isn't that, that really is, in terms of just the optics, whatever he may go down for because I don't know if you've watched the BB files or any of this stuff. But man, there is all types of, uh, just wild corruption. Um, uh, in there like all to like really crazy like his, his wife's demand and jewelry and shit like that. Like they're very, very corrupt. Um, this is why he wanted to change the Supreme Court stuff to begin with was over avoiding corruption. Then there's all types of stuff about the ways conducted this war. He's in real trouble. All right, guys, let's take a moment and think our sponsor for today's show, which is cowboy colostrum summer is here. 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As are terrorists. Okay, let's not lose that track. Okay, I'm not here defending Netanyahu. Okay, hold on. We'll take traditional notice of what I've said a billion times. Hamas are terrorists. Now, can we talk about Netanyahu or do you just not want to talk about it? I want to say I'm not here to defend being Netanyahu. I don't know what went down and we don't know. This is not concerned. But I do know what happened in America. We asked questions about 9/11. Have other questions about Netanyahu? I'm willing to answer questions, I'm willing to ask the questions, is the strategy of giving them money a smart thing to keep them quiet, whatever his lodge was. No, what I'm just saying. Just pause it right there in the discussions. So this is like, again, this is what they always try to do. You know, I know this, do we need this Donny Deutsche, whatever his name is, he's like some money guy or something like that. You know, I had a story with him. I met him once. You one time I never did a show for MSNBC ever. They did like all the other cable news networks. But I never did MSNBC. But one time, this must have been like right after I was working for SE Cup because I was out of contracts with CNN. Because otherwise I couldn't have done it. Because for that period of time, when I worked for SE Cup, I couldn't do Fox News shows or NBC shows. I couldn't do any other cable news. But so I must say it was right when I got out of that. And they called me in, they were launching a new show that was his show. And they called me to do the show, but it was like a test run. Like so it wasn't a show that aired. We just came in and like did a show. It's a corporations are so goddamn stupid. Just an absolute waste of everybody's time. This is like, you know, this is 10 years ago. But like I had done enough podcasts already, there's like, you could just go watch my stuff. I don't know, you need to see how anyway, whatever. But so we go in there and did the same. And so we just did like we basically had a conversation. We had a panel for an hour that never got released or anything. They never made the show. None of it ever happened. They said they loved me at the time. They were like, oh, everyone had another exact booth was talking about you. But I just destroyed them for now. He's an idiot. It just doesn't know anything. These things, we were arguing about a whole bunch of shit at the time. You wouldn't even believe the stuff he was arguing. I think it was he was arguing that if Donald Trump doesn't get reelected in 2020, he'll be immediately charged and he'll go to jail for all the crimes that he's committed or blow. This is just stuff he was completely wrong about. Anyway, back to this. These guys never know what they're talking about. But so back to this, it's interesting. They always go, he'll go, yeah, look, this strategy, the strategy of supporting Hamas was wrong. But let's just keep in mind that Hamas are the bad guys. That's essentially what this whole fight starts over. Joe Scarborough starts mentioning, oh god damn Benjamin Netanyahu was explicitly warned about October 7th and like didn't do anything about it. Wow, that looks bad. And he starts going, remember how bad Hamas was in October 7th and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, yeah, dude, but that's the point. If they're so bad, it's so bad to have been supporting them. And then he makes his points like, oh, look, I don't know. And he says the thing. The New York Times I don't know buying quiet, whatever his strategy was there. Again, man, these guys were very explicit in their own words. I'm gonna see if I have even, I feel like there was, I have some of these quotes up here. Sometimes I have them. You know, go back and play the clip. Let's see if I can pull one up. That BB, I don't want it to get lost on where the evil starts here. Okay, I'm not defending BB Netanyahu. I don't know. We don't know what went down there. And hopefully history will teach. Okay, but again, down to your, you're making a fact that doesn't exist. Nobody here. That's forgotten that Hamas. Okay. Is anything? I have been saying for years that Hamas is a terrorist organization. I have been saying for years. There is no peace. There's no two-state solution with Hamas. I have been talking about it since I was 31 years old in Congress as somebody there, money from APEC as somebody who is fought and you know better than anybody who's spoken out against anti-Semitism. Hey, man. My entire life, defending students like Barry Weiss on Scarborough Country in 2003, which he was at Columbia. I've been at this radio for a very long time. So can we now please talk about Benjamin Netanyahu? I don't have any answers to Benjamin Netanyahu. I just, what I feel, what I'm reacting to so emotionally is that I don't want whatever baby you does or doesn't do to lose the fact of where the evil sits in this argument. So let me ask Jonathan Lamir. Okay, so he just paused for a second. And Donnie, for some reason, just think about the emotional reaction there and what that says, I don't want whatever Netanyahu does to lose sight of the fact that Hamas is the bad guys and Israel is the good guys. I mean, that right there, just like that just describes how every Israel supporter interacts with this issue. It's like, guys, guys, it's almost like he's saying it out loud. He goes, look, I understand I can't refute anything you're actually saying. I understand I can't grip. I understand my reaction to this. You telling me this clearly irrefutable like evidence of corruption and just horrible, like profound failure of the most important role of a leader. I understand my reaction is just emotional to that. But you got to understand here, guys, I just want to keep in mind the conclusion. You know, just keep in mind that the conclusion of is who's the good guys and who's the bad guys because if you get lost in all these facts here, it may just not look that way. It may not look so good. Like before we come back to this, I pulled up here because I have the another great article to read was Scott Hortons piece on this, which is Benjamin Netanyahu's support for Hamas backfires. But there's just I just want to pull up like some of the quotes here because it is when they go like, oh, they were supporting Hamas to like buy quiet or whatever the strategy here is. This is the real problem that have. Okay. From 2012 to 2018, Doha provided more than one billion to Hamas, hundreds of millions per year with Tel Aviv's green light. Okay, here is a distel at by Barian who is the former minister of information and Lakudnik member of the Kineset. So here's a member of the Lakud party. And he said, mark my words. Netanyahu who keeps Hamas on its feet so that the entire state of Israel won't become the Gaza envelope. If Hamas collapses, a boss is liable to control Gaza. If he will control it, voices from the left will arise advocating negotiations and a diplomatic settlement and a Palestinian state, including in Judea and Samaria. That's what they call the West Bank. Okay. So like, here's another just member of the Lakud parties openly saying, look dude, this is not what he's saying. He's not saying, hey, we'll buy quiet. Well, I guess in a sense, he's saying we'll buy quiet, but quiet from what? Peaceful activists, not quiet from violence. Quite for he's saying, if Hamas falls and a boss takes over, then it'll be moderate saying, hey, let's make a deal and have a Palestinian state. And they're going to want one in the West Bank too. That means we can't keep annexing that land. So this is what keeping Hamas in power was for. Okay. Let me let me let me keep reading here. There's another member of the Lakud party. If Hamas crumbles, a boss may rule Gaza. If he rules it, voices on the on the left will encourage a Palestinian state in Judea and Samaria. This is the real reason Netanyahu doesn't annihilate Hamas. Everything else is bullshit. Hold on one second. Here's Prime Minister Barak on Netanyahu, obviously, Ehud Barak, not a Lakud party member, but this is the Labor Party's critique of his policy. Okay. So just to be clear, this is like the Obama critiquing the Trump over there. Okay. Sorry, one second. Here we go. Netanyahu's strategy is to keep Hamas alive and kicking even at the price of abandoning the citizens of the South in order to weaken the PA in Ramallah. Barak confirms that Netanyahu's goal was keeping the South quote on a constant low flame. The purpose was to support Hamas to weaken the Palestinian authority and to avoid any sincere negotiations toward a future Palestinian state. Quote, it's easier with Hamas to explain to Israelis that there is no one to sit and no one to talk to. If the PA strengthens, then there will be someone to talk to. You get what he's saying? He's saying if not for Hamas, then there's someone to talk to. When Hamas is there, he can say there's no one to talk to. So that's the whole strategy of having Hamas there. It's keeping the crazy guy there so that you can say, look, they're all crazy. I'm sorry, once you know they're doing that, it really changes the thing to say they're all crazy. Danny Deutsch wants to say, the Palestinians are the bad guys because of Hamas. Will it really change that equation when the longest serving Prime Minister in Israeli history is supporting Hamas? Because they're Hamas. Because in his estimation, the Palestinians are actually much more reasonable than that. You see? Totally destroys the whole case. And here is, of course, the quote by Benjamin Netanyahu himself, which was confirmed by two, or I'm sorry, I believe three eyewitnesses. And then there was a video of saying a very similar quote using the exact same phraseology. And this is him. This is our Benjamin Netanyahu talks. Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank. It's impossible to reach an agreement with them. Everyone knows this, but we control the height of the flame. It in his own words, that's the goal. Everyone knows you can't reach an agreement with Hamas, but that's the goal. We don't want to reach an agreement. So you keep Hamas in power. We don't have to make an agreement, but don't worry. We can control the height of the flame. Well, on October 7th, he couldn't, or maybe he could. I think he couldn't. Anyway, let's keep playing a little bit more of this clip, and then we'll wrap up. And it's pretending that we don't know. We all know that Hamas is evil. We all know that Hamas is founding documents said that they would find Jews behind trees and bushes and kill them. We all know their goal is to eradicate Jews, to wipe them off the face of the earth. We all know Hamas wants to clear Jews out from the river to the sea. We understand that. They are terrorists. So we put that right here, and then the follow-up question is, if I know that to be the case, And you know that to be the case. And Benjamin and Yahoo knows that to be the case. Why does he give these group of terrorists who stated goal is to wipe Jews off the face of the earth? Why does he give them billions and billions and billions of dollars? Why does he continue to give them billions of dollars three weeks before the attacks, which now we know. His approval for Qatar continuing to funnel billions of dollars to Hamas came after he was warned by MBC in the UAE. Hey, an earthquake is coming. >> And people, there's an administration. >> An earthquake is coming. Hamas is going to slaughter you, your people. Be ready. Be prepared. We don't want this to destabilize the region. Which of course it has. >> And because of all this has happened, Netanyahu has slowed, if not stopped, the internal investigations as to what happened. Because he knows it is so damning to him. And he will now be- >> All right, he'll pause there. >> It's ahead, finally. >> Any crazy guys, if you want to get the real news, you could just watch MSNBC or you could watch this show three years earlier. But anyway, it's wild that I mean, it's unbelievable. The state of the Overton window, the state of corporate media, and just where even like people like Joe Scarborough are. But it's crazy that these conversations happen on cable news now. They certainly never used to. Look, that's what we got out of this bombshell reporting. Is that Benjamin Netanyahu, as we knew was supporting Hamas all this time, was explicitly warned by a high authority in the region that October 7th was coming and to prepare for it. That a major October 7th style event was coming and to have his people protected. And we know that he continued insisting on the funding for Hamas and didn't protect his people. Draw whatever conclusion you want from that. It's damning, no matter what conclusion you draw. And it really shakes up the way a lot of Americans should think about the last three years. They should think about our relationship with this government led by Benjamin Netanyahu, even if it's soon to not be. Okay, that's our show for today. Members only episode tomorrow. And then Louville this weekend, Dallas Fort Worth next weekend. Peace. (upbeat music)