Netanyahu, Elite Bunkers, Thiel & Epstein Psyop | Tommy G

(upbeat music) - You want to do a piece investigating the state where beastiality's illegal. - So in West Virginia-- - You know I got that doggy piece. - In West Virginia, you could technically like, fuck a horse. - Fuck a chicken, even. - You fuck a chicken. - If you can find a way to do it. - There's like a lot of geometrically, I don't know how much that makes sense. - If you're packing what I am, it's possible. - It's possible. - You have to be in the micro, the micro penis category. - Flaccid or full? - To me, it looks the same all the time. - Have you ever like sized up a chicken? Like, I've done more than sized it up. (all laughing) - Top of J is fucking great to have you back, bro. It's always awesome to have you in the studio. - Glad to be here. - Georgia's fine as I'm with right now. - Oh my God, damn right. I was just thinking about this 'cause we talk all the time, but we have not seen each other since the fucking waterboarding shit last June. - Yeah, which is a remarkable event, I would say, have you had any PTSD? - No, no PTSD from it, but 11 out of 10 wouldn't recommend doing it again, for sure. - Aren't you glad you did it? You just don't want to repeat it? - That's right. - Yeah, I think it was an interesting experience 'cause it also shows to me what are guys in the special forces, what they must actually go through because-- - Like a two percent version of it. - Exactly, it's not even a two percent version. We got like the 0.1% version. We got like the, they showed up the first day of camp and they're like, "All right, real quick, we're gonna warm up." And you and I were like in hell. And then think about those guys like the Navy SEALs, they then do the equivalent of like six months of that shit. It's insane, bro. Those guys are, they're a different breed. - To get that tough, when you merge on the other side of that, you gotta feel pretty confident when you roam the world. - I think so, I think so. It definitely, like there's a switch that's different in some of those guys. And you wonder how much of that just existed and was just brought to the surface with their training that they got through, whether it be in buds or with the green berets or with Delta versus like maybe it's built through doing that. - Well, I think there's a certain level of crazy and ambitious and durable that you just show up to the party with. But only when you go through a six month wrestling season or a Muay Thai fight camp or a green beret training session, do you, it gets cemented. It gets proven and then it's real. - Yeah. - You've done a bunch of stuff, though, like not just that, but you know, you did the whole hostage thing with the mercenary team. You've gone into these fucking jails now and like live that, which is hilarious and scary at the same time. Like, you know, that's what I've always really admired about you with your stories and what you go do. You're about that life. Like you will go in, be in the fucking nitty gritty. And even if you're doing something that's like a simulation or something like that, like, I mean, you should heard this guy off camera. Like you want it all the way. You're like, no, no, turn the volume up. Let's go, let's see what this is. - I think when I can dive into the experiential journalism side, it's really fun. 'Cause then it also gives you the context that I need when I'm doing the voiceovers. Actually, it's one thing when I say, I wanna go to France in another place when I've been to France and I think that's the difference. - Hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both a huge help. Thank you. - You should have come to fucking Italy with us. - I was too busy spying on flock safety. - Spying on flock safety. You flipped it around on them? - Oh yeah, so the mission was this. We met up with this YouTuber named Ben Jordan, who's done some of the best journalism on flock that I've seen so far. And he's a very big tech guy, so he's very sophisticated. He's undoing the camera, showing the vulnerabilities. But anyways, we visited the flock headquarters and it turns out they had moved. And there's no signage on the building. The initial mission was to go there. We're gonna film all of the license plates, which for the flow is not familiar. Flock safety is a license plate reader camera system that your city council, your local sheriff votes in. And the argument is, hey, it helps us track violent criminals. And we've seen it in action with the US marshals where there's a guy on the run for a home invasion and they use it to track him to his house. They move in, they arrest him, guy off the street. So there is positive use applications with flock safety. But it's kind of like data centers where these things are creeping into our cities without us really wanting them there. Like the polls I put on Instagram and YouTube were both at about 90% no, I don't want flock in my city. So the exercise, we were gonna film the employee license plates. Then we're gonna go to Ben Jordan's house, run it through his algorithm. He made this little software program where we were gonna track each license plate and then it shows all the information that you can get from looking up someone's license plate. And it's a pretty revealing exercise. And so then the second thing we were gonna do is put them under surveillance. And so we went to their first headquarters, no signage on the building, completely anonymous. They moved out and we had a little interaction with their security, they called the cops on us, boom. We found their next location. We went there, also non-descript building, no signage up front. And we were stopped by the dormant on the first floor. And then the last one, we went to their drone headquarters where that's part of what they're gonna do is like a first responder. They sent out a drone to the scene that's surveilling as soon as something happens. Which again, could have positive use applications, no doubt about it. But we go to their drone headquarters and it's a construction company's what the front looks like. And so we look around this entire huge building, nothing's as flock. And so what we do, we had an old flock camera that these tech guys got off eBay. We had my camera guys. Could we pull up what that looks like, Deaf? Yeah, they're building. It might not even be listed, that's the cameras. And this is part of the point, is they're one of the biggest surveillance companies in the country yet they obviously hold privacy as a really high regard. Right. And so a lot of people see cameras like this in their city. So anyways, we started filming their employees and when they would pull up in their car and have a hacer, just wanna let you know, you're under surveillance, but don't worry, it's for your safety. And they were all spooked and they get away. And I was like running with their car with the camera. And then another employee comes up and I'm like, hey, sir, do you work for flock? He's like, flock, never heard of it. What's that? I'm actually for this construction company. Like, okay, probably not, but okay. Then the police come in, they box our car and from leaving the parking lot. And even people in that business area that were trying to just go to work, they held them there. And they're like, no, you gotta talk with this guy. Before you leave. And I'm like, so are you detaining me? We have a showdown with the police where they wrongfully are just keeping me there and not answering my questions. Anyways, we talked to the flock guy and he's like, you know what, I felt very unsafe. I said, sir, did you feel unsafe because we were filming you? And he's like, yes, I'm like, oh. Like, come on now. She was on the other foot now, huh, partner? Yes, and I don't know when this episode is coming out, but there's a chance that flock is gonna let us come back to their headquarters and actually talk to them. And I do believe flock is a yin and yang. And I don't want to just portray them as this evil company, but I think what a lot of people can get concerned about with flock is one, the scope creep. So they initially tell you that they're coming in to track license plates, which by the way, can be used poorly. Like any powerful technology is like the ring and the Lord of the Rings. It depends on who's holding it, whether it's good or evil. It's not the technology itself, but cops have been known to follow their axes or stalk people using it. Oh no. But the scope creep is this. Now, I think they just did a software update or now it can listen to audio. And so once these cameras are in, just like with your phone, there's a automatic update that no one voted for and three or four city council members approved, just to put them in for the first scope creep. And now boom, now it's audio, now it's facial. And I think that the slippery slope that we are all worried about is one, how much of this data would you ever sell? And two, if our government becomes even more tyrannical, and oppressive, how can this system be now weaponized with, you know, all it takes is one event to happen for all of a sudden nationwide. Now for safety, we have to bring in the flock system and all the other competitors 'cause there's many people that actually do this service to do this for American safety. And then that's where it's like, I feel uncomfortable. Dude, it's everywhere. It's, and obviously we've seen the precedents like you're talking about whether you go back to the Patriot Act after 9/11 and all the things they did there. But have you even seen, as a side note here, just on what you're saying, have you seen the FISA 702 thing that they keep approving? Please tell me a little. All right, so, Dave, can we pull up Trump truth social our favorite platform? - Favorite guy to fall on that platform. - Your big fan of his, right? - Tremendous, man. - Tremendous, man. - I think by far the best, best part of policy we've ever had. - Yeah, I don't think he's really corrupt at all. Like his administration is so above board and like, it's only like a few hundred million at a time that they like pull for a way and steal. - That's not much. - I think they're doing a really great job. - All right, yes. So it's this one. Where is nobody understands this better mean to do, okay. - That's what he says about every talk. - All right, go up, thief, go up. 'Cause I actually want to read this. So this was, this had to be a month or two ago, but he tweets out or this was in March. So he truths out. Speaker of the house, Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thunham have been working to pass a clean extension of FISA Section 702, a law that was passed many years ago by Congress to collect intelligence on foreigners and non-citizens. When used properly, big term there. FISA is an effective tool to keep Americans safe. For those, for these reasons, I've called for a clean 18-month extension. However, the critical common sense reforms that were made the last reauthorization of FISA must remain intact to protect the American people from abuses. Nobody understands this better than me. - He's a Scott. I was a victim of the worst and most illegal abuses of FISA in our nation's history, but radical left lunatics who lied to the FISA court to spy on me in 2016. I can't keep doing that. Presidential campaign in their attempt to rig the election in favor of crooked Hillary Clinton. That is why, since my first day of my already historic second term, my administration has worked tirelessly to ensure that reforms are being aggressively executed every level with the ongoing successfulment go down. - Very successful. - Where does he say, oh no, so there's a second one he did. - Definitely worth the full read on that one for sure. - Trump says, give up lib, I'm willing to give up a little bit of freedom for safety. He literally did the backwards of the Ben Franklin. - Always, how they do it. - But that's insane. Like, this is what he even says that correctly. This is what they used against him to do the shit to him. And then he's like, but I'm willing to give up some of my fucking freedom. - How noble, how noble. - Here it is, right here. He goes, so this is from April 15th, yeah. So he goes, and perhaps would be used against me in the future. I am willing to risk the giving up of my rights and privileges as a citizen for our great military and country, but he threw in an exclamation point. So that means you know, it's all good. - This is where it gets really scary. Because just like another point I eventually want to cover is when we've been looking at these data centers, most of these data centers are serviced by checkpoint, which is an Israeli cyber security firm. And their CEO went on camera, a new station to say, the only way to protect the first amendment, or second, first amendment is to limit it. And it's like, yeah. And so everything that invades our rights as a citizen is brought under the guise of safety. And the thing is, there's a slight truth to that. Like, is China more safe than the United States right now? - Yeah, I don't think in their major cities, they have a Memphis or a St. Louis or Chicago issue, but they're also, you can't rebel, you can't say your opinion. So like at what level do we want to trade our safety for freedom and revise versa? And I think that's the continuum that we always have to balance. And I think if our government had a wonderful, immaculate reputation of taking care of our people and not doing all this nonsense, it'd be easy to trust. But you know that as soon as you give up that initial inch, they take it a mile. - 100% they do it, it's more than a mile. I mean, and they do things in back rooms while they're distracting you, fighting over something else. Like even with the data center thing right now, which I think is really important, we should talk about that. Like I'm like, what's this other shit they're doing? On the other side, while everyone's fighting over Kevin O'Leary's fucking flip-flops. You know what I mean? Like there's always something with that where my head's like, what's this a distraction for? No matter how big the story is, I hate that I have to think that way, but that's how they roll. 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I mean, yes, there's always been corruption, but like, there's a lot of places around the world where it can measure to them. We are a very little least corrupt country. But I think we have to get a wrap our heads around that. Things are changing and I don't know if it's the falling of the empire or like people are just sucking it dry before the golden calf, you know, before we're just discarded. But it's almost like we're too polite too. Because other countries and when this stuff happens, they immediately hit the streets like Albania when Kushner is trying to build the bunker. Hundreds of thousands of them hit the street and they shut it down. Why is it so hard for us to do that? - Because we've never been invaded and it fucking shows. The last time we were invaded besides the two major terrorist attacks of September 11th and Pearl Harbor, which were one day attacks was the war of 1812. And so we have always had geographic privilege in this country with oceans on both sides to protect us and the people in the North and the people in the South, we have problems obviously with the cartels and shit like that coming from the South, but from a geopolitical economic like militant power. - Navy power. - Yeah, they haven't been that for Mexico pride for at least 150 years relatively speaking to us. So we don't understand like when you go to these other places, pick anywhere on the map. Go to Saudi Arabia, go to China, go to fucking Greece, go to Russia, go to Ukraine, go to even the UK, which is an island like there's always some sort of like size geopolitical economic tie threat that's right there in front of them. What it doesn't mean, and this is where your points well taken is that we don't fucking have that here. We just have the illusion that it doesn't exist because we're separate, we're better, we're complacent. Like that's how people think. - And it's also our own doing it. Like they want to kind of tell us, to me it feels like propaganda that like China wants to take us down right now. Like to me, my, what's threatening to me is not a Chinese official trying to maneuver on the chess board. It's my own government trying to do things that repeatedly like they take so much of your taxes and then instead of putting it in infrastructure, they put it in war, and we've been taught that anything that our own tax money would go to help us is an entitlement, but when they waste our money, it's business as usual, we've just been kind of trained to accept that this business as usual pattern is. I think most people are finding it intolerable, and the cool thing is hitting the streets across the country, and even my own neighborhood, I've neighbors across the political spectrum. Like we're all kind of starting to meet back in the middle and say, we're ready to shake hands in the night. - That could be the great thing about this moment. I've been quote unquote, now they have the term for it. I've been black-pilled since 2017, and it felt like for a long time, that was like the frustrating part when I would talk with people, not just on the show, but like just in general, who were like firmly left or firmly right, and not trying to change their opinion or whatever, but show them over the years my perspective of like why I think they're all kind of the same team. - They're blind to half the problem. - Yeah, and for a while, it felt like it would never get upstairs for people. And over the last year, like having conversations with people on both sides of the spectrum, there's some things that get upstairs. And I'm like, ooh, you know, maybe that could be a good thing to come out of this. But, you know, I mean, are you starting a tax revolution? Is that what's going on out there and fucking Milwaukee? - I don't wanna give away all my tax. What's happening just for the record in case the IRS is listening, but I just say, I think we need to get a little more creative this year. - Getting creative. Don't tell deep he's an IRS agent at night. I think we owe it to ourselves too. That's the only leverage we have. So I'm just, I'm keeping a little bit back. I'm keeping, maybe like a good percentage back of what I should be paying right now. I don't know if that was a. - Well, actually, no one was gonna say this. (laughing) And that might actually completely change due to the fact that the accountant that I'm now working for is following Trumpian accounting. Which you know this guy. - You know this guy. - And so to me, it's actually like not only will I probably end up paying less, I might get a refund, but I'm now playing by the rules that the people collecting our taxes use anyway. So it's like, fuck you guys, like I was, if the country was flowing smoothly, people were doing great affordable housing, affordable healthcare, all that stuff. And I'm paying my whatever, 41%, okay. But because it's going to shit in the hand basket, I'm gonna follow the Trump rules that, when I pay more taxes than Donald Trump, dude, I get fired up. - You should get fired up. But it's like, there's also, it's been a while since I was in the finance world or whatever, but that was one of the craziest things to learn about is the creativity with which the ultra wealthy will legally, like actually, I'm not even talking about illegal stuff, but the legal stuff of loopholes to not pay taxes, whether it be funneling it through fine art, which I kind of even know that was a thing before I was born. - Or crime. - Yeah, like, but that's a point, like they can legally do it 'cause by the way, who were the people paying the people who make the laws who set the shit up, them. - It's the Epstein class. - It's the Epstein class, for sure. It's just cool though, bro, 'cause like when you and I first met two and a half years ago, you know, you had really blown up your channel And we're already one of the best documentaries. filmmakers on YouTube and everything doing amazing stories down like in places people didn't want to go and stuff like that. But you've really expanded the scope of what you do now. And now I look at you and I go, "Yo, if we're talking about like the Mount Rushmore on YouTube of like investigative journalists where it's going to be any kind of story, any given day, you're on it." I think I have some work to do. I appreciate those kind words. But this is what happened is because most of the stuff we covered early out in the channel were a lot of hood videos, gangs, hood, crime, which at that time was really fun to cover. Then we had a team meeting at the end of last year and every single one of the guys on my team, four guys that are hustling four editors, three, four shooters, three editors, I should say. And together that's four people. All I'm saying I've had enough of the hood. Like we just got to do a lot less. It's not fun anymore. He yelled in like the trap house. He that was a little fun. Plus that was a new break in the action. But we covered it like a business insider episode and I'll tell you about that in a little bit. But I wanted the meta for this year is busting corruption and then people's champ story. So what are issues that 80, 90% of Americans really care about? And so the data centers, the Israeli military merger, the Pentagon wasting our money. I want to cover stuff that the average American sits at home and says, "This channel sees what I care about." And it feels like we're fighting for them. And so that has been a fun shift that we want to continue. Yeah, we'll keep doing it because like the and it's really, you know, you open your so especially when you start getting involved in the things that the very wealthy people in this country like to keep their rackets going on. That's where you start to hit the fucking baseball bat against the against the the bees nest. And yeah, there's definitely a handful of many pieces actually that I'm nervous when it gets launched because I'm like, okay, how is this going to go? Like for instance, the most recent one I would say would be questioning the Jewish rabbis about questions that are floating around the internet and especially my algorithm was like, yeah, I really want to know some of these answers. So what kinds of what kind of questions? Questions like, what do you believe about the current state of Jesus? And what's some of these guys? I would say this is more about orthodox would be the primary sampling sizes and representative of the whole umbrella, but would be, you know, Jesus is burning in hell and sperm or semen or or a shit. Questions like, you know, what is a goi? And what do you think of a goi? And is there a supremacist notion? Questions like Palestine and the West Bank. Can Israeli settlers just take that land? And they were, these guys were acted like they were blindfolded. Like they've never seen a new story about what's happening in their West Bank. When in fact, Hobart settlements are all over the West Bank. And I was very that that was just like total, they've been propagandized or they're just genuinely feigning shock, but they know exactly what they have to know. They invited Ben Gavir to their 70 70 building and that they marched in the streets with smoke rich, I believe. So it's like, these guys have to know what's going on. But it's funny because they we each looked at each other like we were each existing in our own propaganda bubble, which is to some extent is probably true. But what I really felt good about after this episode, I talked to nearly everyone from that episode and they were all happy. They thought I represented them well and they wanted me to do a part two, which to me is like, okay, because I didn't want to I'm not in this to like whack people with a hammer and it's weird and an investigative piece. I still want to be friends with the guy at the end of the day if it's possible. Like I still want to highlight what I think is off like to think nothing's happening in the West Bank. You're out of your mind. Like how can you even believe that? But the fact that he was like, you know what? I thought my piece came out well. You can come back and cover the Hobart movement. Perfect. Thank you. That's that's great to hear that that's how they looked at it because I know that it's it's getting into the territory where you are asking hard questions because they're objectively some horrible things going on right now. And we see it to where it's also now like pulling in an entire race of people, some people of whom there will be like rabbit Zionist here and it's like, okay, fine, you believe in the existence of a Jewish state. Cool. Does that mean you should support every fucking thing they're doing? Does that mean you should support Benjamin Netanyahu or the Ben Gavir? So we're absolutely not, you know, and you have to ask people those kinds of questions. So when you go do that, you make a full documentary and everything. They know some of the previous content you've done and they're like, Hey, come back and do more. I think, you know, we haven't seen a lot of positive signs with this whole fucking situation. That's that is how at least the conversation starts and maybe, maybe something downstream happens. But you can't, I don't think you can fix the issues going on with the actions that the Netanyahu government has taken without two things happening. Him and the people around him being voted out and gone, which is likely it seems like at the moment. I hope it's likely, but he's the guy that never dies, bro. And secondly, there also needs to be hard conversations about the relationship between us and the Israelis. You know, I have no problem with having allies around the world. I have a problem with when allies are doing or making us do things that are not in our best interests. We're attaching us ourselves to the most diabolical country, probably in existence right now, like the moments people are doing are unbelievable. And I think, I think the average Jewish person is in a little bit of a tough spot because on one end throughout their history, it's been us against a world type of feeling. And so they only have this, this one place and it's this pretty small place. And so it's like, it's like any tribal mentality, even if you're tribe messes up, like you handle it internally, but you don't want to throw to the outside world that you're, there's squabbling or infighting or you don't agree. And because they're so vastly outnumbered, I think they just feel that way. But what I am curious about is what percentage of Jewish Americans agree with the tactics of the Israeli government? I think it. Yeah, I think it's because I was, you know, I was driving through my community the other day. And I saw a Jewish community center. I'm like, okay, I'm just going to look at their website and see like what kind of stuff goes on here. And sure enough, on a weekly basis, they're inviting an IDF soldier to talk about the courageous brave struggle of what they're facing out there. And it's like, I thought these were the more like I was in my head. I'm like, okay, these aren't like the more right wing orthodox types. Like these are guys that you, you wouldn't even really know that they're Jewish when you walk around the walk around your community. So I'm like, I thought they're, and if from what I, how I've broken down the political spectrum is you got the, the secular guys who could be on either side, the reform Jewish folks that are more pretty progressive left wing. And then they're conservative, which is more middle. And then you got their, their orthodox, which is right wing. And when I saw even a group that I thought was going to be more in the middle or the left side of the spectrum, having propaganda meetings. And then for IDF soldiers. And also, I think recruiting is done for the IDF through these different JCCs, which is okay. But the other thing that I thought was pretty hilarious, like the jokes right themselves is, I'm like, you know, I just want to, maybe I just go in and talk to these guys, you know, I saw to have coffee to talk about contemporary Jewish issues. It was like a $72 charge. And I was like a 70 for what? To have coffee at the Jewish community center and just sit around and talk about current Jewish issues. And 72 bucks. And apparently that number is significant. Like it's like multiples of 18 or something is, are significant. They charge for their things. And maybe that's how they fund their rabbis. And I don't know, but I thought, could you imagine going to a church or a mosque and the priest being like, yeah, you can come talk about current Catholic issues, but it's going to cost you $72. Because it's, because the other thing that I think we have to wrap our heads around with, there's a lot of insular Jewish communities. So we got to break that down with them. Jewish tradition giving gifts and charitable donations. And multiples of 18 is a widespread custom because the number 18 represents high, the, the, the Hebrew word for life. So apparently I was giving them four lives if you break it down, Matt, Matt. Four lives for a coffee and a nice combo. The thing is, some of these groups are very insular. They do not want to integrate. And you see that in New York. And I think that's another thing that Americans are struggling with are because we're, hey, we're the melting pot of the world. You got all these different cultures coming in and innovating. And then we have these other cultures that they come in here. And then they, they don't want to integrate. And then it seems like the other thing that's crazy is a lot of these places that don't want to integrate are also heavily using the welfare system. And so like here's, here's a story that I want to dive into the comparing contrast of this. There's, I, I think you should be allowed to self-saggregate. I don't think that's an issue. If Jewish like your ethnic community. Yeah. Like an Orthodox Jewish community says, hey, we, like, because they have impressive schools, like, they have wonderful things happening where they really, I really admire the community that is in, that is there. Wonderful family traditions. So if they want to do that, cool, but it should be on their own money, not the American tax dollar. Now on the other side, you have a controversial movement in Arkansas, the return to land movement, which is a white's only movement. And they are doing it purely funded. And now they have, I believe it's a Jewish activist out of St. Louis, a lady, a Jewish lady married to a black man that applied only to try and sue them and now is suing them. Again, the jokes right themselves. And, but it's like, how does, how does this white group, they're not allowed to do it on their own dime. But then we have to subsidize. And there's a common front. I'm not going to name them because let's just say three letter agency common friend in the area. He investigated the Orthodox communities. And he found that in some of their remittance scams, they had, they hide their assets that some of these, these Orthodox Jewish families are getting $70,000 in benefits per kid. And then when you saw Tyler Olivera's story, they're super subsidized. Besides how they can go to the Yashiva all day and study, but then also they're damaging the public school system at sucking resources away, hijacking the city council, shutting down that school and buying that school on pennies on the dollar, while subsidized by the American taxpayer. So to me, do it, segregate, that's fine, embrace your culture, but do it on your own dying. - I completely agree. And what you saw happen to Tyler after doing that video, whoo, dad it. - Yeah, it doesn't help the fuck you want to talk about, like not helping the stereotypes and the stuff. Summer cooking is officially in season. Stakes on a random Tuesday, burgers for the boys, breakfast before a long day outside, and those nights where one friend stops by and suddenly you're cooking for the whole crew. And while everyone loves to talk about the grill, your pans are still doing a lot of the heavy lifting. 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There's no one who's safe. - When he hits your city, he's looking to hit it with a new deal, right? - Yeah, and so like, you know, people don't have to like that content. I think it's really entertaining. He's funny and does a great job with a lot of his shit. So he does all these videos where it's like insert type of group here in the title, then he does one in Lakewood and inserts Jewish in the title and he gets canceled off a Patreon. Then he has to set up-- - More like six figure hit, I'm assuming on that. - Oh yeah. - He took a considerable pay cut to do this. - Six figure a month, I believe. And then he sets up his own site online, free, and a couple days later-- - It's banned like from two different website platforms. - It gets banned from the website platforms. And it's like, are you fucking kidding me? Like that's absolutely crazy. And I got a call from Jim DeOreal, who didn't know that I knew Tyler Olivera. Okay, ex-special agent of the FBI, Jim DeOreal. And he was like, he goes, yeah, you, uh, bro, I gotta tell ya. There was this crazy documentary on YouTube. It's all the stuff I told you about five, six years ago that I investigated. - That's what I was just talking about. - Literally. - Yeah. - And I'm like, which one? Was this kid Tyler Olivera did one on the lake where I'm like, that's my boy, he's on the show. He's like, bro, he nailed it. And yet he's getting canceled for it. Getting canceled for things that are truthful. And it's like just 'cause it's that group. And like you raised a point about a few minutes ago about the pressure on Jews to not say anything, who disagree with this. I have tremendous, tremendous empathy for that because what happens is every time, and I've talked to people off record about this who are afraid to say anything. Every time they do, the group of like hardcore Zion is emanating from Israel itself and then having some minions here attacks them, calls them self-hating Jews. - They're a very aggressive group. - Oh, dude, it's awful. It's awful, man. - Yeah. And that's the other thing is like, when you're dealing with people that are so happy, they, and also they like they finesse the legal system. Like that's how, okay, each culture specializes in their own level of criminality. So for instance, the Chinese right now are doing great in the marijuana business. They run it in Maine. They run it in Kansas City, they run it in New York. You know, there's all type, like each culture, but the Jewish level of crime, and the other thing, okay, this is the other thing I want to break down. In New York, we all know about the Italian mafia. We have many, many movies made about it. We don't ever talk about the Jewish mafia. There's not many Hollywood production that have covered the Jewish mafia. I know-- - One of the funnertime in America, then. - There's one. But there's many, many dozens of Italian movies about that. But I saw it at first hand. When I was celebrating Purim with Jewish guys about two, 2023, super fun time. Amazing hospitality, amazing food, and Purim, by the way, for those that don't know. It's like this one day of the year, we're almost encouraged to get drunk. People are wearing costumes. It's like a Jewish Halloween frat party, extravaganza, family, you get catered, you have people playing music. It's wonderful. - We had so much fun. - Yeah, I shot it, and it didn't get a lot of hits, but it was an extremely fun time, and I'm grateful for the hospitality I got there. It was awesome. But we walk into this house in Crown Heights, beautiful mansion house, and they have this famous Hebrew singer, Keegan might have to say his name. Older guy with a big white beard. - Keegan! - And we need that, who's that Hebrew singer, Keegan? Old guy with a beard. - Who's the Hebrew singer that we saw? - Honestly, I think. - No, it was. - But then a picture of him when you walk in. - He was there. - Oh, he was there. - He was there. - And so we were about to. - I've been freed. - I've been freed. - I've been freed. - And so we were about to film this party, and they were like, no, no, no, no, cameras down. There's made men in this building. - Made men. - And I'm like, what, these are guys look like rabbis in here. What do you mean, made men? And the other thing is, how are you a rabbi in a made men in a mafia? And. - That's interesting. - And all this to say, my point about knowing about the Italian mafia, but not knowing about the Jewish mafia, is one of the things that I'm trying to tackle without trying to unnecessarily hammer a group of people. I was like, why are we aware and talking about certain levels of crime and not other? And that's like the two tiered system that it feels like is like. 'Cause we came here to look into de-theft. It's a complicated issue. It's a multi-racial issue, by the way. But a guy, Sona Sanford Sona, he got caught stealing 11 homes from people. And let's just say this is worth at least tens of millions of ducks. - Yeah. - He's on house arrest right now. I know guys that did 10 years in California prison for stealing 80,000 from a bank. So why is it that this guy gets house arrest, or the guy Jim Diorio was investigating. - I don't know. - What happened to him? He got almost no time. - One of the guys got time, but he'll tell you, right? - Apparently, yeah. - He'll tell you about all the guys that they didn't even, he didn't even get to open the investigation, they had to close the investigation. - And so one of the lawyers I was talking to yesterday was talking like, look, the power structure in New York, I mean, the police commissioner, or the police, yeah, Jessica Tish, Jennifer Tish, her family is a real estate mogul family. And when you have all these, the other thing is, so this is not just a Jewish thing, but white collar crime is not prosecuted. It's not punished the same way. Like you have a guy in Harlem, steal $80 from your gun point, he's going away for a while, but someone does deed theft where they steal your house from underneath you. That's worth $1 to $4 million in a New York neighborhood. They might get house arrest. - One crime's got to pen, another has a gun, that's why. I'm not agreeing with it, I'm just saying it. - Yeah, so anyways, it's been going down a rabbit hole, but I made a lot of friends in the process too. And like there's this ginger rabbi that I met, Ethan, Ethan have to say the Hebrew way. - Ethan? - Yeah, he wants me to come back and he wants me to look in the Habbat tradition. I want to learn more about these guys, 'cause that's it in the day. What I am motivated by is curiosity, desire to learn. And historically, I get invited back when I go places and I hope to continue that as much as I can. - You're a very likable guy. And I think that once people may have an idea 'cause of what they have been told where you have a different opinion than them on something. And then if you get face to face with them, I think they're always gonna like you, 'cause you're genuinely curious. And you should be able to ask some of these questions, 'cause it's about finding some common ground. - I want common ground. - Yeah, I want common ground. - Absolutely, but it's like, you know, the whole, what's this chappelle joke? He's like, he's like, when it's the blacks, it's a gang, when it's the Italians, it's the mafia, when it's the Jews, it's just a giant coincidence and you should never talk about it. You know, like what's nuts is that didn't used to be a thing. Like when I was studying the mafia in high school, like crazy, is when no one was looking at the mafia and I was obsessed, 'cause I got assigned a paper think sophomore year in European history about where I had to write about the origins of Sicilian mafia. And then I started going down the rabbit hole and I learned everything about the mafia. and the whole like Jewish mob, Meyer Lansky, Bugsie Siegel, murder, ink. All these, like it was very cut. The documentary's everywhere on all these operators. Yeah, and now it's like, they don't talk about that as much. Whereas like Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano built that city right there. It was literally built by them. You know, you have the Italian mafia and the Jewish mob right there. And so there's something where it's like, oh, well now, you know, well, I mean, can we speculate on why Hollywood wouldn't have shown movies about the Jewish mafia? Speculate? Like pure spec right now? Just like, just shot in the dark, you know? Shot in the dark, you know? Who knows? I can't really think of any reasons. I can't think of any reasons either for sure. But it's, you know, it's an interesting. I'll be very interested to see if you're able, not like with necessarily Habad, but with, especially like the secular community and stuff, if you're able to get some people to talk, 'cause I know, I just know how scared a lot of people are to do that, 'cause they don't want to be canceled by. - And so that one is not their own kind by the way, but what they'll call by faith their own kind. - Yeah, I mean, some of them are non-political. Like one of my best friends in the world, the guy who is, whose house I visit the most, and who I just call this morning when I was doing my little stretch and push up routine, he's a secular Jew. And like, that's the other thing that really makes me feel weird when like, I didn't get it, actually, I rarely got labeled on anti-Semite in this last piece, which I was expecting to like get thrown into the roof for being an anti-Semite. And it's like, it's so confusing to be like, hey, there's a lot of guys I love that I spend more time with than anyone else I know. And then like, just because you cover a controversial issue, that means you hate somebody. - Yeah. - And it just, it's a, that label is losing its power too. I think it was kind of like in the George Floyd era where everyone got called a racist and it just like, dude, like you can't just throw that at anyone or sexist. You know, like, and look what you got out of it. Look at the culture, then you got Nick Fontes. That's what you get when you do that. When you lie to people over and over again, then it flips hard the other way. - The page of them always swings. But it's like, when you went to do that though, that first one in October, where you went, I think it was like called like investigating APEC or whatever, which was another brilliant documentary. - I was your first time swarrying into this issue. - I was nervous, dude. - Yeah. - I'm a being in the shower a couple of days before that would get released. Just like, should I do this? - I was really going back and forth. - What made you want to want to look at this situation? - 'Cause the thought I had in the showers, what is the point of having a big channel that has like, I can be a very small part of this hive mind that starts talking about something. What is the point of having a channel that has reached if I'm gonna be scared to talk when the real issues come? - Now what happened, 'cause by the way, that was an excellent documentary. It was about 45 minutes long, and it, you went out of your way to cover both sides of the issue as much as possible. - With the IDF soldier being featured, who by the way agreed to a part two of a different story because he thought I covered him fairly. - Is that Doron Cider? - Yeah, yeah. - The propaganda machine himself. - The propaganda machine? - From my point of view. He thinks I'm a propaganda machine. So I guess, two shit. - But he still likes you. - I don't know if he likes me, 'cause we had a very testy second interview that, when I interviewed him about the West Bank, I was actually pretty pissed, and I, instead of being like a calm, what do you mean by that? Which is what I did in this most recent piece. I just, hey, depopulate, what do you mean by depopulate? I had a different kind of tone. With Doron, I was very given a back to him and being just kind of, being a little boisterous. - What was he arguing with the West Bank? - Oh, that is actually the Palestinians attacking the Israelis that, oh, this is Judeo-Sumerra, that this is their land. They kind of use a whole different lingo and they also use a whole different time frame. I think the big disconnect is Americans look at this issue from what's been happening since October 7th. A lot of the powerful Zionist folks are looking at what happened 2,000 years ago. Hey, this is our land that we had for many centuries. Then we got expelled and I'm reading Beebe's biography. I think it's like 600 or 700. You're actually doing it. - And so we're just like, hey, we're just coming back to the land that we actually had for many years. And I guess that to be fair, maybe what the Israel perspective is, if there were smartphones when the United States was moving in exterminating the Indians and doing all that kind of atrocities, we would be the same level of what Israel's doing now. So I think that Israel might be saying, when they say that it's anti-Semitic to hold us to a double standard. Why can't we take our land back the same way that you took yours from the Indians? - Yeah, like I part of me says, I get it, but I do think the smartphone is gonna help keep things in check that were atrocities before. It's doing a better job of saying, well, hey, actually this is pretty terrible. Like we don't want this anymore. - Right, I think about this all the time. And it's not just us either. There's a lot of countries around the world and different points over the past couple thousand years. Obviously we're formed because people came in and kicked the other people out. I think the differences and in their defense, this part is not their fault. The timeline is not their fault. But the differences, we're talking about a state that was created post-World War II in 1948 when there was for now a form of global media and people could see things. They didn't, yes, they didn't have smartphones back then. But like you understood that there were people that were living there and now there's not where they're kicked out. And there's a new country that wasn't there before. Whereas 400 years ago, it took fucking 12 weeks to get a letter across the river or across the ocean just to find out about that. - Graphic video images, right. Hey, we just slaughter this entire native village. - That's right, yeah. - That's right. So it's a different world in that way. But to your point, this is a weapon in-- - Yeah, and this is a weapon too. - Of course, in different ways because you can forget, I'm not even talking about AI. That's a whole separate conversation. But you can take a narrative and make it real thin and not show the full context of the horizon and what's happening. And that does happen in both directions. But to your point, it's like I have put a governor on if that's the term you want to use on basically all contents since October 7th and either direction is like half of its AI or fake and the other half is true. - You've been listening to Doran Cater, huh? - A what? - You've been listening to Doran-- - No, no, not at all. What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is Doran Cater will tell you 100% of it is not true. There's nothing to see here. It's actually the total opposite. The Palestinians are attacking people in the West Bank. It's total bullshit. If you put a 50% governor on it and say half of what I see is fake, that other 50% is horrific. You don't need to-- - You can't see it. - You can't unsee that 50%. It's real. - And that's why America's, that's why especially, like everyone under 40 is so stirred up is because we've been bombarded by these images on a daily basis for the last two, three years. And it's become untenable and we don't wanna be a part of it. And what do you think would happen, if I, let's just say, shot in the dark, I mean, if the Nelk boys got 'em, I know I'm not gonna give 'em the goi propaganda interview, but if I were to interview Benjamin Netanyahu, one, do you think he would ever accept? And two, do you think it would help or hurt me? Even if I ask some hard questions. - Well, you would definitely go at 'em. - Can you imagine what Mossad would do to my house, my phone? - Yeah, before that interview and after? - Yeah, it's, you know. - Kinda terrifying. - I just don't, I'm kind of at a point where there's, I don't know, I think about this a lot and I go back and forth. I don't think there's an upside to interviewing a despot. - It's like when psychologists go to a prison interview or serial killer, like, 'cause you can learn a lot from that psychologically, publicly. - I agree, you can learn a lot. - But books are written about, like when psychologists go to a prison, profiles, 20 serial killers and then composites, like this is the childhood patterns, these are the adult patterns. There's something to learn from there. Is it better to just completely not talk to someone or let the mainstream media give them their, like the Fox News interview? - Yeah, no, it's, it's, like I said, I go back and forth on this. Like, you can't do what, no, that was a disgrace 'cause they didn't have a fucking clue. They didn't know a single thing about anything and just talked to them and like, "Oh, what's your favorite fucking hamburger?" Like, that just was beyond the pale and they deserved the backlash they got for that for sure. 'Cause it's also like, guys, this was being set up by the White House and then the whole like Israeli security teams coming in there and prepping questions ahead of time. Like, there weren't alarm bells going off in your head like me, maybe we should stay away from this. It's like, you aren't, with a guy like him, everything he does is so on his terms and controlled that it's very hard to win. I completely agree that being able to do a psychological profile and later study it, which it's great that your Readiness book told you. That's like, tells you who he is right there, but I think it's great for the record. It's just what can be used if you're recording something for public consumption on a territory that might not be yours either. Maybe you're going to him to his office or something like that. And then little things go wrong or whatever. How could that then be used for a boomerang effect? Also, I think he would be a guy like, I don't want to study, you'd have to dial in. I don't want to be so immaculately prepared to talk to him 'cause he's, I mean, he's a MIT Harvard brilliant guy. - Hey man, it's, my cute compared to his, it's like I'm playing checkers and he's playing chess. - He is, you should never ever underestimate someone just 'cause they're a bad person. For sure, which you seem to understand very well. He is a brilliant man. Like there is nothing he does that is not supremely calculated and he has lasted this long despite all the mountains of things that have happened against him in his career because of that, for sure. - I think when you interview someone at that level, I mean, I got a little pushback from interviewing Nick Fuentes, but I actually think, I don't know if I would, there's no one I would not interview. I'm almost on the coin of, and I'm not comparing Nick to Benjamin Netanyahu, by the way. I think Nick has never killed anybody. Nick has never caused a violent regime to take over a group of people. I'm not trying to put them on the same level at all, and I think he was a very fast thing I'd talk to. But I would interview, I feel like if I had the opportunity to interview Stalin or Hitler or Mao Sei Tong, as a person that likes to talk to people, it wants to interview the best. I think it's a worthy challenge to look at. - It could very well be. I don't know, like it's so hard for me to, especially when we're live talking on Comer about it, it's so hard for me to express how I look at it, 'cause I do agree that what's the old phrase? Transparencies, the best light or something, something like that. - Lights the best detergent? - Yeah, lights the best detergent, something like that. But I've just seen him run rough shot over people for decades, when you go and look at it, he just finds, and then even when he looks bad, he still gets to do things on his terms. And it's like what he just take advantage of the situation. He could, I mean, he's a great speaker. Obviously, he's used the whole growing up in America and having a fucking fill it off, he accent, to his advantage with American media and the American people throughout his career. But if somebody, I think you could do as good a job as anyone, 'cause you also feel strongly about it, as long as you kept your wits, which I think you could. - Well, I think his fascinating about him is he has been, well, we're talking about this off camera. His grandfather was a big Zionist movement guy. He would go on speeches around Europe and fill auditoriums, fill theaters and talk to people. His father was a great historian and writer and influenced peddler for the Zionist movement. And I think just, in some ways it is a miracle what they have achieved and how they've turned that situation into something where they're actively expanding and actively growing. I guess what I would be curious is when you're talking to someone that feels like all you hear is propaganda, if I said, hey, Mr. Netanyahu, tell me about the Israel Expansion Project. What do you, oh, that's just, 'cause he sat in his book when Yasser Arafat was saying that in the '90s, that was, you know, anti-Semitic propaganda. - Objection. - But it does seem like that's a plan right now. And so like, I'm curious, like, would he adjust and say that's real or would he deny it? And anyway. - Yeah, he calls any time you go to speak against the government in Israel, he labels it as anti-Semitism. And that is ridiculous. When I, first of all, I shred my own government here all the time. That doesn't make me anti-American. I shred the Chinese government all the time. It doesn't make me xenophobic. I shred the Russian government and Ukraine governments all the time. It doesn't make me roosophobic and fucking Ukraineophobic. I shred the UK government sometimes. It doesn't make me fucking lunatic. But if I shred the Israeli government, Benjamin Netanyahu, say, no, no, no, no, you can't do that. That makes you anti-Semitic. - But they're good, I have jail free. - Yeah, fuck you. Like, it's such, it's such bullshit. And like I said, I'm really glad you're reading his autobiography because the thing about sociopaths is they genuinely believe their own bullshit. And I couldn't believe like in retrospect that he actually wrote that book because he thinks it makes him look good. It does not. - I think he came off as a, like it's an enjoyable read. He comes off as a compelling figure. - Yes. - But actually, I think there's an investigation that we might be having to do pretty soon. - Ooh. - And the audience that's listening, if you guys can think of the gayest US senators that aren't out as gay, we will be looking to that further, perhaps at a later date. And I think that would be a fun one to pursue. - Now, you say it 'cause we were talking about this offer. There are, what's it, section 224 and section 226 right now being proposed within legislation that involves a litany of things regarding the relationship between United States military intelligence and, - It is really. - Reppards manufacturing the opportunity for Israeli companies to set up shop here. Massive data sharing, provisions and framework that allow us to keep giving more money to Israel without us being notified about it. - And no notification. - And guess who wrote the plan and his claiming responsibility for that. Benjamin Netanyahu, he claimed responsibility for this. He's like, this is great, this is part of my plan. And we interviewed, so the chief Democrat pushing this is Congressman Adam Smith. And he sits on the, whatever the military committee is that would be oversight on the budget. And so we interviewed him about this Pentagon failing the audit. It's failed the audit every single year that it's been around. And we interviewed him about why. And I do wanna get more in a detail 'cause I think it's a worthy thing. But as we're about to push out this video next week, all of a sudden we see this section 224 is really US military murder. So at 11.30 today we're gonna have to pause this podcast so I can interview Adam Smith and learn what we can from him. But it's just this thing where how are we going more in bed with this country that is deeply unpopular? And it's just like the, I think the overall theme that's most frustrating and almost gives me sense of despair sometimes, it seems like our politicians, local, state and national keep doing these things that nobody wants. Does the majority of people not want data centers? Correct. Do the majority of people not want surveillance cameras? Correct, that's the local level. Then you move up like, do you wanna keep raising taxes? Do we wanna keep going to war? Everything that we don't want, it seems like our politicians are doing. And I guess the thing that always gets to me is happening so much in our face that I think despair is definitely creeping in the country. And that's when we were talking about the beginning, why do other countries meet in the streets and march and protest and actually change things and why don't we? And there's many factors, but I think part of it is because the bombardment of it in the last few couple of years has been so strong where the Bill Clinton monoclewinski blow job story was a month's long scandal. Now a massive scandal, Christie Nome can fund $143 million into a shell campaign for her advertising for her job. And that was created eight days ago. She does that, no one blinks an eye, it's out of the news cycle in two days. Oh, inside our trading is going on every time Donald Trump tweets at the war is over $100 million. Like there's so many things that we could say have happened and I think it's almost conditioning us to just not respond anymore. Yeah, it's noise. They drown, they drown out the loudest voices by just creating crowd noise everywhere and everything becomes a distraction for distraction. Up, they finally pushed the Epstein files out. Let's make sure we hold it until a Friday afternoon, the fucking week before Christmas. Oh, fuck, they're talking about that. You know what, Somali fraud. Let's astroturf that to the fucking moon. Now let's invade Venezuela six days later in and out. Whatever. Oh, fuck, they dropped more Epstein files on January 30th. This one's really bad. They're fucking naming everyone in that thing. They're even talking about like pizza and shit and that. All right, we got to get rid of that. Let's fucking, you know what? Get that scientist missing over there. Let's invade a fucking random dude. You had that targeted and calculated or is this just, how can you not at this point? Yeah, I was, I was having a conversation with someone last time. I said, how many times are you gonna say something to coincidence? How many times they've been doing this forever? Look, it happens 109 times. Like is this a coincidence? Chuck Schumer, since he has been in office. Media genius, okay? He's been in office since the early 80s. Do you know that he has a press conference every Sunday morning in New York? Every Sunday morning, the fucking guy has a press conference anywhere. Cameras are rolling, everybody wins. And he could be talking about, you know, the fucking size of the trees outside. He does this because he knows that he'll be at the top of the Monday morning news cycle when the week starts. That is how these guys in these places operate. It is news cycle, news cycle, news cycle. And now the news cycle, there's fucking four different major social media platforms that people use at all times, five or six, whatever it is. There's mainstream media that has just this generation. Then there's just this generation is over here. Then there's this story here and that story there and this tweet there and that thing here and the algorithm pushes voraciously over and over again, content, content, content that they can just drown it out. How many people besides me, do you hear talking about the Epstein files these days? - Well, it was everybody. - And now we're still aware, but other things have taken the fantasy. - That's right. Do you know how crazy that is? Yeah. It's the most prolific fucking. crime of my lifetime. - There's more news about to drop about it. You see the nipple? - Yeah. - Scandal? - Yeah, we're gonna hear it. - Apparently Donald Trump is big in the nipples, which, I'm not against that. - I don't know what he did to the nipples. - I guess I have to like look at the real information and JD Vance's take on it was, it's not the worst thing that we've real. Why don't we just push this out and get it over with? - The nipple thing? - Yeah, he has a dire election. That's what they, they, that was-- - The dire election. - That's the phrase that we're like sucking on him. - I mean, I don't have anything against that. - I have nothing against it, but like what's the big deal then? Why is he upset about the nipple thing? - Oh, good nips, nice. - I think he hopes that it's probably over with. Like, hey, we've talked about it. It's done, his personal attorney is pushing it under the rug. Is that illegal to have like your personal attorney promoted to that position? - Todd Blanche, will, I'm not a fan of political law fair at all. I think this is a very dangerous cycle we're in, where one party gets in. They just go after the other. It started, I would argue mostly in like 2017, when they went, you know, the DOJ went after everyone with Trump. And then during the Biden administration, they literally went after Trump and stuff like that. And now you see Trump doing it to everyone else 'cause he's pissed off about it. I think it's very dangerous. Todd Blanche is looking to me, pure spec here, like he will be someone who is prosecuted when the next Democratic administration comes in. And I not only won't feel bad, I will enjoy the shit out of it. - I hope he goes to the Georgia prison system. - Yeah, I feel like he'd learn his lesson going there, right? - Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be a guy. So right now we're doing an investigation of the Georgia prison system, which is arguably the most deadly place there is in America concentrated. Where if you compare Memphis, Tennessee, which is about five or 600,000 people, they are the most murderous city in America, the Georgia prison system is about 50,000 people, and they have as many murders. And so right now there's guys walking around with gigantic shanks. During Black History Month, they tie up white inmates and they put them on dog leashes and walk them around. If you come in uninfiliated, a good chance what will happen to you is they tie you up, they take pictures of you and they say, if you don't send $1,000 right now for Julian, we either kill him or he can't sleep in a cell. You have to pay to sleep in your own cell. It's staffed at about 30%. And so anyways, I think when we think about all these political actors, I think they should get sent there. - I think so too. - Which would then give an incentive to clean up that prison system, pull in the National Guard or whatever, or do a massive hiring operation where it's safe again, which is if that's how they take care of it, then find the politician gets to live safely. Otherwise, they have to deal with what the common man is dealing with. - Yeah, and what it really is for me, and this is what really pushed me over the edge with someone like a Todd Blanche, is the general apathy that he has towards the things that people care about, like Epstein and stuff like that, the disdain that he and the, what's the, I'm bad with words this morning, the what's the word for like looking down on someone? You know what I'm thinking of? - Errogates, disgusts. - Ah, but there's a word I have in my head right now, and I can't think of it, sorry people, but like the pure, oh patronization that he has with anyone who dares to ask a question about this. - As if we're the bad guy. - And the denial of the whole thing of, you know, this isn't whatever, it's nothing like what you're looking at. And you know, I have no evidence of Mr. Epstein, you know, there's no tapes of him. Oh, so all the tapes that have been reporting, including by your old boss, who then suddenly said she didn't see them after seeing tens of thousands of them, those weren't real. All the guys from the NYPD who pulled out all the fucking tapes from his New York City mansion, and most of them killed themselves afterwards, they saw nothing there. Fuck you. - He thinks we're retards. - No, that's exactly right. They think they're retards. You're a peasant. Let me feed you my slop, and you're gonna fucking eat it. There's a good boy. It's like the old de Blasio video, when he was telling people to get the vaccine, he's like, "Hey, come on in. Here's the, here comes the fucking hamburger." - You know, it's just, it is, it's fall-around type ship. - So we were talking about despair, but here's where we, the people, have a really cool opportunity, and with the smartphone, we all can do it, is I really think there should be a campaign of heckling, jeering, calling out, where anyone, if Todd Plansch goes to the grocery store, someone should be there to heckle him, push him, press him. - Verbally. Don't touch him. Verbally do it. Verbally. - No, no, I'm dead serious, 'cause we have to, 100%. - The first amendment rights don't give him an argument. - But if he tries to go to the gym and not just Todd, but all of these people that are right, even your local city council member that voted in the data center, despite the entire town showing up, they should be publicly pressured, because the fact that they don't feel it already, like, "Hey, I have this tremendous responsibility, I'm using your taxpayer money to make decisions, the impact, all of us, and I take that to heart, I'm gonna choose the best." For some reason, that is out to window for a lot of these people, so there needs to be the public pressure in campaign, and if we just, the analogy I keep thinking of is the bugs life. If the ants unite, we can beat the grasshoppers. - Agreed. - All of us ants need to use our smartphone and let them know what the hell is up. - I love your visuals, bro. I use the, I can't boil the ocean, but I'll boil my pot probably every other episode, 'cause your visuals with that shit is amazing. What I mean to be very clear is don't give these people what they want. Don't go physically assault them or stuff like that. Don't give them leverage. - Don't go to a prison for these people. - Right, right. But you go and absolutely practice your first amendment, right. When Howard Lutnik shows his face at a next game, he should not be able to go one step without-- - Did he go? - Oh, yeah, of course I. - And nothing happened. - And nothing, that's what I'm saying. You should stand there like this, very close to him, without actually physically touching him, and he should not be able to go anywhere without here and fuck you Howard, you disgusting scumbag or whatever you wanna come up with. I completely agree. I think that we're in a moment now where the elite class, forget even just the obscene stuff. The separation of their reality and their complete lack of self-awareness of that from the average American is at a point where it's not sustainable because this part is also growing in size, not monetarily, but like the regular American is growing in size and they're shrinking in size with elites with just way more money per person that it's just, it's not sustainable. Like, Tommy, I can't afford a house around here. I've had a top 100 podcast for the last 19 months. - That is absurd. - It's fucking absurd. - And now this is brought to you by Rainbet, so that Julian can afford a house. But like, that's how separated the elites are from the world now because the value of a dollar has just plummeted every time I order groceries is fucking $400, but they don't care. That's just residual income through their fine art. - I mean, I just saw Julian Assange quote, that was pretty creepy to me. I don't know what year this was, but basically he said, the goal right now is to bleed the United States and Europe by the transnational elites through war that are located, and also for the sake of Israel. And there was all tied together. And I felt, it felt fitting and it felt like, 'cause some of these people think that we're following biblical prophecy right now. And let's just look at this quote so I have it right. The goal is an endless war, not a successful war. The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax base of the United States and Europe through Afghanistan back to the hands of a transnational security elite. I just add to Israel as a part of Israel. I'm pretty sure there's an Israel part in here somewhere. But, well, if you look at the transnational elites, I would say a lot of them have roots or ties to Israel. Anyways, so. - Some of them do. But then if you look at like a Builderburg fucking group, do you say Berg? - Yeah, it's Builderburg. - There's no ties to Israel. I'm just saying, let's just call like it is. (laughing) - Well, I'm saying if you look at the actual, did you see the guest list for this year of all the people on the commission? Could we pull that out for Tommy? I'll give him this outside. - For the commission. - Outside of socioeconomic class, they got the diversity thing checked off, bro. There's one of everything on there. There's one of everything from every country. - What's this commission? - The Builderburg. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, yeah. - Where is that, where does that take place? - So this year it took place in Washington, D.C. - It already happened. - Uh-huh, and there was a, - Damn, that would've been one journalist there. - Oh yeah, yeah. They like transparency, those people. - Yeah, they're a huge fan of it. But that's where I get to the whole, you know. - Don't over-focus. - Yeah, as real stuff. - As real thing where you can take. - There's a lot more players on the table. - There's a lot more players on the table that's happening right there. And then use it as a stampede for everything. - I think this is the problem. Is for us, Israel is the closest thing that we have to be angry about for another country. But if you go to India, it's Pakistan. And like each country, and then India probably over-focuses on Pakistan. It's just whatever country is invoked right now that feels like it's running it up on you. That's where you want to focus. And I agree, like, yeah, maybe my folks on Israel has been like, it's been too much of the portfolio. And I need to dial it back a little bit. But as far as what is directly, feels like it's affecting me in the future of our country. I feel like I'm not so far off. no i i i i i I think it's a conversation has to be happened because I'm not saying this to minimize it. It's a soup, soup the sure at the moment right now, given the fact that our taxpayer dollars are help funding genocide. Like, I mean, it's, and that, you know, it's also being like, literally funneled into our government in the sense that the minute someone had dares to say, you know, I think genocide is not a good idea. They get voted out of office because money from A-PAC and other place super PACs related to it comes in and gets them out. - Yeah, we got over $30 million in Kentucky to take out one of the great American Patriots. Thomas Massey. - It's nuts. - And there's another one just recently that they just took, well, I mean, we'll see what they do with Graham Platner out in Maine. But let's look at, let's see some of these names. - Yeah, this is Bill de Berglis from Dan Dicks who was the-- - Dan Dicks, good for you, dude. - Outside of it, dude. - But no school must have been tough, but they didn't use the list. - But you see it, look at the countries there. - Can you zoom in just a little bit? - I don't know if my eyes are good at all. - I just, the first page right here, USA, Italy, USA, Great Britain. - Can you give me a little more zoom here? - We're trying to. - Okay. - It's not zoom in. Sweden, Belarus, Austria, Canada, Denmark. - I mean, to be honest, I also think Parvett is you have to look at the last name. 'Cause someone can be from-- - Oh, yeah, for sure, but I'm saying like, even if you look at the last names, this is representing every kind of thing in the book. That's the point. And it's like, who was the one whistleblower that said, God, there was a whistleblower, he died like 20 years ago. - Oh, whistleblower that died? - Yeah, that never happens. But he was talking about how they'll use Israel as just the, oh, let's put all the attention on that to construct from this because there's good material there to use. You can make the 10% and stick a zero behind it to hide what you're doing on the other side. And again, none of that is to minimize the issues there and what they're doing. But I'm saying, well, I do wonder, and I've wondered this since the beginning if part of the siop is to just pay attention to Israel and complain about them. And, saysently, all the fucking time as if that's the only problem in the world. - And my wife's getting sick of it from all the other things. - Yeah, and like, there's a lot of problems going on in the world. One of them, but, you know. - Oh, I see, like, for instance, like. - Rishi Sunak, you know, that like. - Sweden, Wallenberg, Deutschland, Wallenberg, Whiteburger, T-O-Peter, T-O. - Sweden, I think, I'm pretty sure, Burg is a very common. - I'm sure there is. - It's just a tip of the iceberg. - Yeah, but you have, you have all different. - A hundred percent. - A hundred percent, for sure. - Sunak, Rishi, that might be, yeah, he used to be, he used to be the prime minister of Great Britain. - You had diplomats, you had prime current prime ministers heads of intelligence. - Well, I see a Greek guy right there. - Medium, I think. - Well from Greece, but popping out a little bit more. - The major pop-adopoulos. - Yeah. - Whatever. Kyriakus, Kyriakalus, you know. They got every day, they're well diversified. Just not socioeconomically speaking. But the fact that things like this now are so out in the open and they can't hide it anymore. And people are like, oh yeah. Everyone that was told about that 20 years ago, it's a very real thing. - Or like random YouTubers can just sneak into, what's the grove with the owl? Bohemian grove, and thanks to Alex Jones for leading the charge round. Or do you see Scientology Billions are just being stormed and left and right? - Oh, it's hilarious. - By like 19 year old kids. So it's a pretty cool, that's the weapon we have on our side. - A hundred percent. - Yeah, you did the big Scientology documentary a year and a half ago. - That one was a really fun one. And that was another one where before posting it, I'm like, am I gonna have a private investigator tailing me, am I gonna get sued? I'm going up against a multi-billion dollar religious entity. There's been a few of those where I do get a bit of butterflies and a bit nervous before we go live. But then once it hits, I feel very proud. And I also see the feedback from people like, you know, and then it inspires more people like, 'cause I'm not the first guy to cover Scientology. I'm not the first guy to cover Kenneth Copeland. I'm not saying like I'm a trailblazer there. But for instance, even speaking about Israel, once we each put our little piece, then all of a sudden it emboldens everyone to do it. And if I can be a small part of that river being flowing downstream, then it feels pretty good. - Yeah, that's the key, man. I think just like when you can set an example for being fearless, there's gonna be people that feel emboldened by that in a really good way. And I think it does feel like the last couple years, I'm knocking on wood here, there's been a way bigger opening for that happening. - The question is, we need a brave, fearless leader. Who's gonna be that person that is eloquent enough, smart enough to understand taxes? And like they can go across the political board of knowing how to fix things. I don't know if you guys love our hate, Mandani. I haven't really looked into them. But he seems kind of like that prototype politician where he's so smart that he can speak well on almost every issue. And he's also, even though he's so smart, he can speak to the common man in a way that he's not talking over your head, which is interesting. But who is this? Who is gonna be the politician that emerges? Or is it just gonna be another Republican puppet, Democrat puppet? But I really am praying for somebody to come from the ashes. That's like, this is our guy. We're going full steam behind him. - I hate to be a cynic, but I just don't see it. They can't even get fucking seven term messy back in office through a primary. When he's objectively, he and Roe Conner, like the highest approval rating congressman in America. You know, they put in the fucking cool real estate guy, reality TV star from New York as the outsider. He's the world's biggest insider at this point. I would argue in his first administration, which I now I'm starting to just think was a total front. You know, he, he was still had some outsider aspects. He was chaotic, but like there was, there was certainly aspects of that there. Now, I mean, you know, he's a established man. - Yeah, he's not even establishment, bro. He's transferring all our data over to fucking Palantir, who funnel his campaign. Day one in the Oval Office on like January 21st, he's doing press conferences with Larry Ellison and Sam Altman. Does that feel like an outsider? - Oh, Larry, he's a great guy. - Yeah, Larry's an awesome guy. - He was probably on that list. - Big fan of the show, I'm sure. - Yeah. - But you know, he's on your Patreon, I'm pretty sure. - Yeah, I'm on my Patreon, checking it out as well. Shout out, Larry. But, you know, like, we showed it earlier, arguing for FISA 702, saying, fuck the Epstein files. It's not real, it's a democratic hoax. Like, fucking standing Lindsey Graham. - Yeah, it's, I wonder where the shift came with him because I don't know, like, did he get, was he compromised in his first term? But he, it feels like he got, like, quadruple compromised this time around. There's a, it's a different Donald Trump this time around. It's a way more blatant and way more outlaw out in the open, doing whatever the hell he wants. No, like, we, we, some of this is ad nauseam, so I don't want to, like, keep hitting like the, the no-new wars. I mean, I've released the Epstein files. Like, everyone knows this, I'm not saying anything new, but it does feel like a new Donald Trump. - You won't put it on the tinfoil hat with me? - Mm-hmm. - He's a triple-dimensional alien? - No, I'm a lizard walker. - I, I don't know, but I know that operations don't happen in a year. They don't think a year out. They don't think 10 years out. They'll think 30, 50, 100 years out. And I'm just starting to wonder if it was all designed this way. - There's, don't you think there's too many variables to control to do something 30 years out? - No, oh no. - Like, 'cause, what, so Donald Trump losing was part of the plan for him to make a big comeback. - And that's where I'm starting. - But if you control both sides, it doesn't matter. - It doesn't matter, but that's where I'm starting to wonder 'cause it's like, and I saw someone argue this online and I'm like, that's an interesting point. Where they're like, you know, the surveillance state and the, the real things that, even the stuff that we have no idea about, 'cause it's never been brought public, wasn't fully ready to go. Wasn't fully ready to go in 2016. - So like the data wasn't, yeah. - And, and what, how do you like it? - Donald Trump would live that long. He's an obese 70, whatever year old, with a high stress, no sleep. Like, that's where I'd say, I don't know. And someone really, like, and who is the day behind the scenes. It's like, I'm gonna, it's a crazy idea for sure. - It's plausible, but who knows? - I just, you have to wonder why it is so opposite day and why it wouldn't have been the first time around. That just doesn't add up. It's not to say, you know, oh, we did everything right the first time around. No, but like, there were, you could at least point to things. Where it's like, okay. Yeah, that's, whether you agree with it or not, that's exactly what he campaigned on. Oh my God, he really is trying to do that. Oh my God, they just tried to impeach him over bullshit. Like, you could point to these things and objectively say that. There's not a lot, you can say that about this time around. He's literally, like, every single thing he does is the opposite of his old instinct, including looking at polls, related to the most important things to many Americans. - It seemed like he used to be a populist, but not really anymore to him. Exactly, so that's what I want to know. What they didn't. suddenly blackmail him in fucking 2021. I don't believe that at all. - I saw there's a post on Instagram where it was like, hey, people across the globe, what are news stories in your country that Americans aren't seeing? And one of them was that Trump is suffering severe health issues. And I don't know if it was mental health issues. Maybe people speculate dementia. He's getting old. Could it just be simply a psychological thing where he's getting kind of turning into a cranky old guy with the last few years to live and he's just going ham? - Yeah, it's like the same things. You know, you seem falling asleep in stuff and meetings. - How could you not? (laughing) But these are the same things that they were hidden righteously so by the way Biden for. Forever. I don't think he's on a draw by the level. By any stretch, like Joe was really gone. But, you know, like we shouldn't have 80 year olds running the fucking country. - I agree and it's a subject that we're not going to cover on a full blad or something. - Be right back. - All right, we'll be right back. All right, we're back. - By the way, dude, I said this earlier, but you're fucking, your videos going into DC with some of these other guys, like Zach Faust and stuff - Great guy. - Given the awards for the insider traders of the year are some of the, can we pull up one of those, dude? There's some of the best things I've ever seen in my life. - Oh, you had so much fun filming this. And for everyone that doesn't know, this was a bipartisan issue where we highlighted four of our major stock traders and we gave them different categories and we had plaques made in Milwaukee, Brom and Washington DC, marched into their office and gave them out. And it was, it felt very American. - That is, oh my God. - I don't know where the spike moment occurs if you can see by the graph. - Yeah, there's someone Twitter too, Deeth. - The one where we kissed the wall was pretty good too. - Yeah. - Where you saw the, you were kissing the wall with the two flags outside and then going, who was, was that Mark Wayne Mullins office? You were outside? - That's just like one of like dozens and dozens of our politicians that has one country's flag all over the place. - Oh my God. - It's all over the place. When you walk through Congress and you walk through the Senate is no surprise to see what is happening 'cause it is everywhere. - Oh yeah, here we go. Let's hit this one right here. So this is you, Zach and who? - Why am I blanking on his name? He's a really good guy. Oh my God, he runs a page where he tracks trading and he runs like an algorithm where you can, you can follow what? - Not the, not the unusual Wells guy. - No, he's close. Jackson. - Jackson, all right. Let's hit it, Deeth. - Oh yeah. You can't enter a trade either. - Back, back, hello. - How are you? - We email, we came all the way from Milwaukee to present different people with awards. Man, it's such a remarkable award. We think about people that have been public servants for a long time, like what, since 1987? We're gonna be doing our lifetime achievement award in trading. The return she's gotten better than hedge funds for so many years is so remarkable. And it's like, to do that as a public servant, it's like you're working a hard time for us, the Americans. (all laughing) (all laughing) - Oh, is it? Well, insider trading is not allowed either. So, Nancy, this one, big shout out, Nancy. Nancy, you're great. So, we're gonna do the numbers, guys. So, she came into Congress at 1987, worth 3 million bucks. - I'm not sure, no. - Worth now, 317 million. (all laughing) - Oh yeah. - You can't enter a trade either. - This is not an asset. - Okay. - So, whatever footage you have to be honest with us, if you're working out, that's fine. - Yeah. - In this hallway, fine. Inside the office, can't do that. - Okay. - It's like, you don't need stocks. - You reviewed this, that's fine. - She doesn't own any stocks. - That's fine. - She's been, what if, what if? - She's not. - Her husband doesn't. - Yeah, her husband owns all the stock. That's right, that's who it is. - It's not her. - Folks, a common excuse you'll hear from politicians when confronted up. - My spouse is trading trading. - My spouse is the one trading not me. - This is the humiliation ritual on politicians doing. (all laughing) - We made it. - We made it. - We made it. - We made it. - We made it. - You can't reject me. - Check, come in the mail. - I have a few seven K checks coming in. - Oh, that's good. - To me, that's such the flimsy is excused. Where it's like, oh me, I don't stock trades. My wife, who was a fine arts degree from Stanford. She's the one doing it all. She's the mastermind behind the family. While she's a stay at home mom, really. You know, it's always like come back. - Always impeccable timing too. - Yeah. - There'll be an amazing-- - And then they sit on the committee for armed forces and they do the Venezuelan. Mark Wayne Mullin, he got his staffers, got the capital police to confront us over this because the trades we highlighted with him is right before we went into Venezuela, he got some major oil stocks and a couple defense contractor stocks. And it turns out that it actually gets you a promotion in Washington. 'Cause now he's the defense secretary. No, no, no, no, no. - Homeland Security. - Homeland Security Secretary. - Yeah. - And. - Clap it up for Mark. Good job, good job Mark. - We're gonna do this probably for a couple other categories. So we're gonna look into the, the gayest ones that are not on the cloud. So Republican gays that are pretty funny that are doing the Christian values. But I think we might do like a good goi award too, like the goiest senators. - The goiest senators. - Yeah, some most money from like APAC kind of deal. - That kind of thing. They're like, oh, you wanna merge the Israeli military? Good goi, you get the military goi. What, some of them will figure it out. You're delivery though of like just being able to keep a straight face, but also be funny at the same time and have instantaneous singer come backs for these people when you're doing something like that while filming in their office is next level. - Thank you. That was, to me, I felt like I was in my form. There's sometimes I do these interviews where like when I'm walking, when I'm going out in walks where I'm in calm places before the couple of days before I go to this location, I have all these questions. I have all these things going on in my head where like this would be perfect to say. And then when I show up and somehow my mind is mysteriously blank and it's like, what am I gonna say now? So that was a time where I was like, okay, everything was firing just as it should. - Yeah, and the faces of the staffers too. That's what gets me every day. - Were they initially a little bit pumped about it? - Oh, thank you. That's so nice of you. But they know, like that's the thing. They know that you can see it in their eyes where it's like he shouldn't be here. We're really upset he's here while the fuck is his person, but they know. They know that everything you're saying is unfortunately objectively a fact and they are the little stooge sit in there and they, you know, they're making. - And that's why I didn't hassle them too much just 'cause I knew they just were there and they were just doing their job. But it is kind of nuts that you can pretty much march into almost anyone's office. I mean, there's certain offices, like when we went to interview Senator Schumer, you have to go to this underground, 'cause he's under the Capitol building. But his office is so beautiful. There's busts of Teddy Roosevelt out there. The hallways are so magnificent. It just felt cool to be in there to talk to him. But I guess select fewer are kind of protected. I'm almost surprised Nancy Pelosi as she was a speaker of the house for a while. She's just in a commonly accessible office where you can just kind of march in and again, that's how it should be their public servants. - Absolutely. - Anyone can walk into the Congress building or the Senate building and just walk around no one tells you to leave. Even after we got caught doing this, the Capitol police were kind of laughing a little bit with us and we just kept going. We went to the Senate of Rick Scott. We presented him with the "Don't Want to Be Poor" award 'cause he's worth about, so I just let that do the talking for this one. For reference, this guy, he made a lot of his money in the biggest healthcare scam ever in American history at the time. Walked away with a golden parachute of like 200, 300 million. And I think it was 500. Now he's up to 500 million because he's of all his investments. But his big thing was I don't want to ban individual stock trading because I don't want to be poor. So we thought, you know, that takes moral fiber. We're gonna go present him with a plaque as well. - Now did you see Mike Johnson talking about this a few weeks ago before we placed video? - I saw the clip circulating in-stream. - So he basically says, and this is how you, again, this is how you know you have absolutely no fucking understanding of the people that you claim to serve. He's sitting up there saying, you know, we make a really neager salary of 174K year. To say nothing of everything's written off that they get to do, by the way. And it's such a sacrifice to be a congressman and an incentive that we should be allowed to trade and you know, do what we want to do. And it's like my brother in Christ, you are making the greatest argument ever to solve this problem. It's called term limits. That way you wouldn't have to make this sacrifice for too long. You could go make money because, by the way, and I'm not even opposed to this, when you leave office, you were in Congress in the Senate. You got big financial opportunities after that. That's the free market talking. So no worries. - Yeah, you get to go work for Monsanto or Raytheon and then like campaign in La Via. - Absolutely. You know, and I may not like what you do or whatever, but that's the free market to where you can go on and actually cash in on it. So term limits and then you can go do that. You don't have to, guess what? Not you only have to sacrifice for six years. And you're done. - This one, I feel like we're stifled. I feel like with what we had in this episode compared to the reach our videos normally get, this one definitely was stifled in the algorithm. It felt like compared to normal. - I don't think some congressman is moving the levers on it. I'm just a little bit surprised given what we did and what our normal videos do. That it's not, it didn't do a little better. - What it would insider trading is the topic. Yeah. Yeah, that might have been it right there. - It's one more. - It's deep trying to scroll and find it 'cause we don't have the individual video. - The next one is, Mark Wayne, that's Mark Wayne Mullins office. - Yep. And then this is-- - And there's Rick Scott. Okay, let's do it right here. That's perfect. Thanks, Steve. - If you make, let's say, 25% return on a stock and you file it months and months late, like Katie Brett did, you get a $200 fine and you get to keep the returns of the trade. - Trump just experienced this. He made $300, $300, $300 singles stock trades. $200 fine, but it's just a few seconds past this. - Yeah, what a, what a-- - Who would you say are the people leading the charge to band stocks and who are the people leading the charge to not bang the charge? - If you fast forward it a little bit more. - Well, Risk God is notable because he actually was part of the biggest healthcare fraud case in US history. His company got 14 felonies against it from the Department of Justice. But he walked away from that pretty hands. Well, we'll check the numbers. What's about like 200 million? I believe he walked away from it. - I apologize, Mr. Risk God. Let me correct myself. It wasn't $200 million. It was $300 million. - Oh, Recap. - He saw from Recap. - He saw from Recap. Recap and Medicaid out of hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars when put under oath. Risk invoked the Fifth Amendment 75 times. His company pleaded guilty to 14 felonies. - Well, it's a better road for his eye. - But he walked away for three hundred million dollar gold. - Oh, yeah. Well, do you see he's a better one? - Do you see a US senator who really loves Israel? Rick Scott, thank you for your public service, sir. - He has about half a million dollars and modest. - When they asked him, "Do you want a band's doctorate?" He said, "No. Does anyone here want to be poor?" So he gets the inaugural "Don't want to be poor." Senator, we are a committee traveling all the way from Wisconsin to a ward, bipartisan excellence. And we were looking to present Senator with a plaque. Is there any chances in town for a minute to. - He's actually nine. - Oh, man. - Oh, man. - Boss, Wisconsin guys can't schedule that good, but is it possible to give them the plaque or have someone give them the plaque? - Wow. - That would be huge, that would be huge. We just thought it was really notable and remarkable when asked if there should be insider trading or stock trading. He said, "I don't want to be poor." So we're giving him the "I don't want to be poor." He's a public servant, only worth half a billion dollars. I mean, it's a tough time in this economy, and I think no one deserves this ward more than Senator Rick Scott. - Yeah, let's clap out, guys, you guys want to be poor, 14 families, beautiful. - Zach is a fucking man, that was a great mission for Zach. - I can't wait to have him on, I've been talking with him a bunch, good dude. - He also like was dead ass looking like your security, this whole video is like staring there like this in the shoot. - Mustache. - Love that. - Dude, that felt so American and the cool thing is literally anyone watching this has the power to go do that? - Yeah, but it's important to continue shining a light on it because these are the people that you know claim to represent you and claim to understand your play. - It's unbelievable. - That's why I say follow-rum shit because it's all of them to like every part of the structure of the class of like what you would call elites, they view us all like fucking peasants. And it's embarrassing because then when they get called out on it, no it's your fault, how dare you question something like this. It's like I should question something like this, you get inside of your information every fucking day and then you're making trades and profiting off of it, fuck you, that's not what we do, we go to jail if we do that, you know, it's absolutely crazy. You got to do more of these, like you were saying, you got to go back and fucking- - I wonder how long it'll take till they ban me. - Can they ban you? - I don't know if you're not, if you're practicing your first amendment rights. - Probably not, and if they try to, it'll only strike Santa Fe effect. - Strike Santa Fe effect at 100%. - Yeah. I hope they ban you. It'll have a way bigger effect. - I don't know, I have too much fun when I go to Washington, DC. They'll have to unban you, that's what I'm saying, I hope they ban you. They will have to unban you. - We'll see. - I want to do a story on Thomas Massey there, I want to go there and cover how the Israel lobby defeated him, and then that's when I'll do, actually I don't want to give him way too much of the self. Probably none of these people listened to that, but I want to give him a heads up of why I'm coming. - Nice. - And also I do go there for serious issues as well, right? The cool thing is we can go do this, and the day before I'm interviewing both Arizona senators, Galego and Mark Kelly, so we, the thing is, when we go to Washington, DC, we reach out to every single senator, and the only ones that take the interview are the same ones, the reasonable ones, because, of course, and rare rarely, like Ron Johnson took the interview with me about Israel, but I don't know if he knew that I was going to be going after him the whole interview, and you didn't like that. That was a kind of a uncomfortable tense experience, because, again, you're talking to people that are living in such another information bubble of what's really, really happening. It's like, how do you not have a smartphone, your senator, like you should really see what I'm talking about. Well, you had had a previous relationship with him more than a great time stories, right? I remember in old documentaries. And I do appreciate him inviting me, and even if it's a subject, he doesn't agree with. I think, like, that's where Ron has done a great job when I, as I've known him, but I don't think, I don't know. He wasn't ready for that. And his answers were just, like, dude, you should know more about these subjects. The way you opened that up, though, was, that was for the Epstein documentary. I remember that. You did that really brilliantly, because you weren't a dick at all. You were just like, you know, we had the schedule and whatever. And then there was the vote last night, and I was really sad to see something like, I was really sad. And frankly, like, a little bit disappointed to see you who I admire, and if done good work within the past, be one of the senators who voted against the release of the Epstein files. Why is that? And he went-- He's hard-spottering. Oh, yeah, man. No, but it was a poison pill from the-- He's like, no, no. You don't understand. Oh, don't you love that. Dude, you voted against releasing the Epstein files, like calm down. But he was one of the 50 or 51 that did that. And so that's the moral compass, or what's the operating software inside the minds of a lot of these people is, like, it wasn't like he was an outlier. That was actually what most of them did. Now, as Adam Smith guy, you're about to go talk to. He's supporting the Section 224 stuff. He's co-leading the charge. Co-leading the charge. Him and the Alabama representative, Mike Rogers. So, them Republican. Okay. Unity. Unity. For his role. Unity for his role. That's the only place it seems like we get unity nowadays. Have you had any off-camera discussions with him? I've interviewed him in full at our Airbnb in Washington, D.C. and it was a pleasant interview. And then I was like, very like, again, I'm disappointed. I like you. Now, I'm disappointed to discover you're the guy leading the charge. All right. So, what I'm saying is you haven't talked to him at all off-record or off-camera yet about this. About this. This over your fresh start. Okay. What was the last interview with him about? The Pentagon failure's budget every single time, because he sits on that committee. How do you think he, I mean, I'm going to go watch it with you right now when you're doing it, but like, how do you think a guy like that can defend pushing a law like this? I think he's going to say that it's going to make it more transparent, more systematic, where we actually have a process for this collaboration with Israel that's going to benefit us from an American jobs and the weapons tech manufacturing sector, which is arguably true. And I think he's just going to say that they are, you know, when we have our great allies in the Middle East, so we should keep building with them. We've had great track records of success, busting terrorism. I would guess it's going to be the usual trope. What would you say is going to be his common defense? I don't know, because I'm not that familiar with the guy, but let's go find out. Let's do it. We'll be right back. We'll react to some of it when we get back. All right. We're back. That was interesting because a lot of cognitive dissonance going on there, I think. Congressman Adam Smith. Yes. Well, one that I appreciate. He talks rather openly for a politician in some way. So I think I'm glad we had that. But it was weird thing where he's the first one. He's the first one on the horn to call out who are asked for arms embargo, but then he sees no issue with formalizing the relationship further. And how did he describe formalizing relationship? You were asking. I was hearing some of it. He was kind of saying like we're already doing it. We're just putting it on paper now. That was kind of the gist I got. But when the part where I was standing right there where he was talking about, well, we really want access to their missile systems and stuff like that. He was asking like, Israel was doing us a favor by this arrangement. He was like, they're not really going to almost as if they're not going to benefit much from it, but we are going to be able to use their technology for the iron dome level of stuff. Again, but they're getting a lot of that shit, not all of it to be clear. It's not fair to say all of it. But a lot of like the military technology and weaponry, they've gotten from us. What would anyone quantify our relationship with Israel is they are the giver in it. I don't think with, especially with intelligence, they've never been known as the giver. And you can just ask John Kiryaku, other guys about that. They are the taker and we are the host. Everyone from the scale of Kiryaku to Bustamonte that you talk to in that world. that I've spoken with has told me some version of that. - So the idea that, oh, it just says nice thing that Israel's doing for us, so we can benefit. It just doesn't feel like what I've seen in reality. - Yeah. He's definitely, that guy was impressively media trained though, 'cause you were really hitting him and he was not getting frustrated at all. Very, very unflappable. - Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I feel like it's one of those conversations where I asked the question I wanted to ask but I still don't fully get it. - Yeah, I felt like I didn't quite still get the answer or just didn't make sense that oh, now we have the potential for Israeli companies being our soil, which I guess was allowed before but formalizing, I don't know, a lot about it. And I guess the one thing I was excited about was I got to say, look, the pulse of the people under 40 out of me, I just want to say this, is none of us want this. It is very unflappable there and we feel, we're teaming up with the most diabolical country. I thought he said, oh, interesting, he thought me calling Israel diabolical was, 'cause he said interesting. 'Cause he still call it like the threat of Iran. And I'm like, well, you mean the threat? They call it the Iran war when they're the ones that got attacked. Like I think that's funny. Is the one that personally gets attacked, it's their war, they get branded with that. - Yeah, and that's why we're so asked backwards here and I knew this was gonna happen before it even happened. It's like not the war itself but I'm saying like what the narrative was gonna be, you're putting people who are trying to be objective about this thing and like look at it and clearly the evidence stacks up to this was not in our interest to do it. Very clearly talking about the United States. You're putting us, which is a large group of people listening out there in a position to where we have to defend the Iranian regime. No one wants to defend those fucking people or anything like that. I don't condone anything that do their people. I hope their people overthrow them at some point. There's a huge difference though between you know just fucking invading a country you don't like and sitting on the sidelines with it because that's unfortunately like the way it has to go. People have to sometimes take care of their own problems because if you step in, you are going to cause fucking 10th order effects that fuck you. - That's just the future. - People need to take care of their own problems and even this congressman admitted that Iran is Israel's problem, not our problem. - He said that. - Yeah, we're the one that's gonna put boots on the ground which he disagrees with, yet he's apparently spearheading this. So I just, I don't know, it just, it felt like it just, he said some of the really right opinions or to me, which hit home with me, but then at the same time he's part of the apparatus. - It's cognitive dissonance, he's saying one thing and then the other thing that he's saying kind of can't be true at the same time. - Yeah. - I couldn't, maybe you can make the argument that a part of it could be, but the strength with, which was like, oh yeah, this makes total sense. We're just formalizing it, like come on. - You asked him about his APEC guy? - That was one thing I wish you would have jumped in here and said, I could have passed that note, I'm sorry. I didn't want to step on you while you were doing it. You were really locked in. - Tag team's good, when we go to Washington, D.C., we can, we're just like a Navy unit with cameras. That's what I feel like to guard. What's the, when are you going down there? - I don't know, I would like to go before the end of the year, before Massey is out, 'cause I want to get his story. So that's the deadline. That's somewhere before the end of December. 'Cause right now we have a lot of interesting stuff we're covering, dude. We just got to do a Clayton County Sheriff ride along. So the jail you've seen me in, we did a ride along with their sheriffs. I totally understand why their jails are full. So this is what we would do, is we would patrol, and these guys had really keen eyes. So they would, we'd see pretty much a black guy at a gas station, and he wasn't pumping his gas for one second, so they'd be like, loitering. Boom, box in his car, go up to the window, of course they smell weed, clear 'em out, search the car, handcuff 'em. But the thing is, even though on the front end, it was like, what was the probable cause? It didn't feel like we should be there in the first place. On the back end, okay, the guy had a switch on him, and he had cocaine. It's like, so it's like, the cops instincts, a lot of times we're right, but the pretense for getting them was off. There's another arrest we got to make where, and Keegan was on a foot with this one, was a cop went up on a guy with a towel over his lap, just parked in a parking lot. And again, he was just parked in a parking lot, so did a cop really need to interact with him? I would say, eh, but I also don't live in this area, a high crime area where you have to be proactive, proactive police work as the framework that they use to go after high crime areas, where you stop it before it happens by looking for the little things. Anyways, they approached this guy, the guy starts wrestling under here, and Keegan not even was going for his wiener, 'cause he was doing something in the car, but he was going for a gun, and so the cop had a wrestling with a gun, then the girlfriend came out of a hair salon half braided, he threw her to the ground too, and then we start looking through this guy's, well, me and not me, but the cops start searching this guy's vehicle. They take a bottle after a bottle of boner pills out, and we just couldn't stop laughing, and the guy's arrested in the back of a car, and we're laughing, here's the last thing, he's like, come on, man, I'm 61. (laughing) That's a thing though, it's like you want the probable, you want to be able to stop crime before it happens, but you know, what's the, there's another, I keep forgetting like old quotes today, but like one innocent man in jail's, worse than a hundred guilty ones on the street. There's something about like the precedent of what that leads to, which we're seeing a lot of other examples in society with other things that we've talked about already today, in some cases, where it's like if you started to say, well, it's for a better cause that we do it and look, that the ends justify the means, and that what does that let you do? Yeah. Yeah, I was wrestling with that right along a lot, 'cause I respect those officers, they put themselves in very dangerous situations, and their instincts were so on that every guy that, they ended up stopping, did feel like a guy like, okay, this guy is definitely, would have been involved in a shootout at some time in the next few months, had we not stopped him. But literally, sitting at one second for a gas station, not pumping, hey, he's not pumping gas, he's just sitting there, he's scrolling, loitering, boom, boxing. Yeah, I'm not. That's heavy force for just sitting in your car. I'm not cool, and they did that on camera with you guys. Repeatedly, that was their task. Yeah, I'm not cool with that. I'm sorry. 'Cause if that was happening to you and your city, if you got boxing at a gas station, but then these officers would say, look, you're naive, you're in a safe area, you don't know what we deal with. These are guys that if you pull up their record, they've shot three people, we're really making our streets safer. There is a little bit of a human being to their argument. And let me be clear. I'm not saying that like it's bad intentions on their part. Sometimes it is, you see bad cops, every profession has bad people. They have some too. But like a lot of times it's good intentions, but like again, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. You know, so it's hard for me to, like if I were operating in a district, like my friend Tom Smith was in one of the sections in New York where there was like, it was a one mile section, there were like 87 homicides in one year. Would I think of it differently? This was, fuck. What streets was that on? Like projects, kind of stuff? There were some projects in there, yeah. It was a mixed bag. I think it was on the West Upper Side of Manhattan, I wanna say, but double check me on that episode. Like, you know, I'd probably have a tougher perspective if I were operating in that kind of environment because people are dying. You know, there's nothing scarier than that. And these are guys that are willing to do high speeds, guys that might shoot at you, which actually, it's more rare than you think. Like given how many of these guys are violent and have guns, they really don't shoot at police as much as you would think they would. Like it's mostly flea, like Keegan was on the scene, the same day there was a 160 mile an hour motorcycle chase on the highway. And these officers in Georgia, most Carthes I know are, terrified of Georgia because they do pit maneuvers and they can really get you. These cops kind of boxed the motorcycle in and the motorcycle crashed. Got unbelievable road rash. I think snapped ankle, locked 'em up. And Keegan ran all the way up to the guy like next to his face. And was like, what's going through your mind, man? (laughing) - Oh my God, sometimes it's like you guys are the modern day cops, like the show. It's a ride around with cops in a high crime area is so much fun. - You ever play like the Reno 911 music while you're doing it? - I wish we would, you should do that. - Yeah, that's a pretty good idea. - I think they would appreciate it too. - They'd probably like it too. - And the cool thing is the channel is so far reaching that a lot of the police officers knew and loved the channel and a lot of the guys were point over knew and loved the channel. So like there'd be a guy with head tattoos and cuffs that just got boxed in a gas station that I'm like, hey man, what's going through your mind? Oh, you just got a prison for five years, like telling what your plan is right now. And like we get to have that, neither of them are mad that we're talking to the other guy in front of each other. And that to me feels like a really fun tightrope that we're getting to walk. - Yeah, it's like almost strange though too, 'cause like it's a real life thing. There's like a rest transaction if you will happening here and you're just getting, yeah, can I get a live reaction of that? I know this is worth staying your life for the worst day this week for some people, but how are you feeling right now? It's kind of crazy. - It's all started with prank videos. - Isn't that wild? You never know what things can pivot into because prank videos one got me even more comfortable in the hood 'cause I was doing wild stuff and they were doing homo wrapping. That was homo wrapping. I used to do gay wrapping in session in the hood and that was one of my favorite things. Like that was one of my favorite hobbies of all time. (laughing) Suss, how was Suss wrapping in the hood? And but doing all that, I learned how to edit. I was learning how to work with videographers, all of it gave me the building blocks I needed to transition into documentaries. And I think a lot of us we want to go from A to B like that, but we don't realize the little step into terms along the way. If you use them right prepare you for that. Yes. You have to like sometimes you can get impatient in that you want this thing to happen or this opportunity to come up and then maybe you get to the 50% point of what that is and it happens nine months after you wanted the 100% point to happen and you start to realize with time passing like oh I wouldn't have been ready for that then and I'm actually not ready for it now but this was like a good now I'm getting my feet under me you know what I mean you have to play that long game. I used to write goals when I was really early on on YouTube like by December 5th of 2021 I'm gonna have 15,000 subscribers I'm gonna have this many on Instagram and what I realized is I really stopped doing anything that revolved around time or the numbers because I can't control either of those and all I did was made my goals around activity. I will post one week a one week one video a week for an entire year and see where I end up. I will cover these topics I will learn these skills because otherwise I would get upset with myself if you know the rest thing school I had if I didn't have 20 kids I only had 15 well I didn't achieve my goal and you do want to measure your goals I think it's important to be aware where you're at but you really can't control that so much. You can't. How do you you know now being what are you almost six years in since you started your first videos. Yeah. Something like that. So how do you stay present and not constantly worried about the next performance metric if you will right. Obviously you just said and I agree with you don't write down time and view counts and the things are out of your control but you still have in your head the thought of I need to be able to be this big or you know progress in this way and if I don't are we dying you know what I mean. Yeah to me I try and look at life as one giant side quest bucket list and that's all the ideas on the channel are like that like okay like the Atlanta trip we just went on last week I think would is a very perfect summer so we got there and what we first it is went to the Georgia senators offices where we printed out folders that had these most gruesome folders of what's happening in the Georgia prison system like unspeakable barbaric like Jeffrey Dahmer would faint if he saw some of these photos they were terrible. So we went to five different senators that were on this commission gave their office the folder boom hit that then that night we went to a strip club to document a girl that I interviewed in that jail was a strip dancer and so she brought us to a club and we documented the dancers there we saw some cheek shaken it was only for research purposes only I talked to my wife before hand we had our rules set I followed it I behave no private dances in fact I actually wish I would have brought my wife because I would have probably been able to enjoy myself more because she would have led the charge of like throwing but like I got women dangerous in strip clubs they like it yeah they like it and not that I've been but I would go with her and um but then we wake up the next day we do the flock safety video where we're spying on the flock headquarters and then that night we're doing the Georgia police right along and so that's that's 48 hours where we just went hard in the paint long long days we're exhausted by the end of it we're feeling tired similar to how I woke up this morning after doing two days hard in the paint in New York but now I get to go home and I reset and I go back to my little quiet family life I'm going for a walks in the wood I'm reading my Teddy Roosevelt books my Benjamin Netanyahu book you know um enjoying myself and then in a couple more weeks we're gonna go back into the fray and it's getting to some action we're actually going to Cook County Jail in Chicago uh this coming Thursday is it like a clip like are you reading like a chapter of Netanyahu and then like cleansing your soul yeah they're balanced it out no I literally even though I'm uh I'm not gonna start my Teddy Roosevelt I've read probably like four or five Teddy Roosevelt biographies I got a couple new ones um I brought up with me just uh like even being seen in an airplane reading Benjamin Netanyahu is just like that's that's unintentional questions I just don't want to have to like I do you do that in the privacy of your home get a Kindle bro what are you 74 dude get all my books are right on there and then the physical books we get here get to be nice decorations and everything it's nice and lightweight and no one ever knows what the fuck you're reading there's something about I'm a paper book guys I like the old fashioned feeling deep is too I feel like my grandpa if I'm just like trying to squint and stare at my camera but you don't squint you turn the blue light off you have the font like pretty big and everything and that's what a whole person does I mean I probably have it at like a quarter in their size but to me it's like I that's like one of the few things I'm not old school on there's a lot of shit I'm pretty fucking analog on but I don't know like the idea because I would always get like uncomfortable with like oh I'm gonna keep it open you know I mean shit like that at the Kindle years I don't know I feel like your boxing trainer prepared you could really hold up a book but yeah but yeah I know your coaches we gotta talk to that guy but that's what I'm saying I'm not reading to train I'm reading to relax yeah so whatever it can maximize the relaxation aspect on it so I can lock in so do you read fiction too I do read some fiction I is funny micro it was that was asked me about that in September and I'm like I don't read a ton of it because like if I'm gonna read I like to read about things that have gone on or are going on or whatever but then I started to look at somewhere I started reading the Game of Thrones actual series on ice and fire fucking amazing and then Dave's trying to get me into red rising beautiful series I read the entire six books you read that yeah really great just fiction just takes you another world also I read because I read every single night when I go to bed that's how I go to bed I read until my eyes get blurry turn off the light but if I read BB to sleep it's like 10 20 pages if I'm reading Dune or girl with a dragon tattoo that I can read I can I stay up like sometimes I'm up to eleven midnight just reading reading reading I go through the book in a few days whereas you know so I think we should bounce it out I think also like I don't know if it was like the red pill alpha man era where every book he needs it has to be like I'm learning sales tactics I'm advancing think big I'm gonna grow rich that's all good but fiction also teaches you a lot about the real world too because they make characters that feel so alive that's why JK Rowling was able to get children to camp out in front of Barnes and Noble and wait for the book because there's something so powerful about that story that we all felt fuck yeah there's human out there there's a amazing human element to it that's the best storytelling that there is and I think like we've also seen it to where it not even be dystopian about it but for real I think it's like a great lesson you see a guy like Orwell write books years ago like 1984 and then you see some of those patterns playing out and you're like wow this guy wrote a totally fictional story that was based on human nature discussing things that could happen in a type of future society that even if he didn't have all the technology right the fucking ideas whoa that's what makes fiction wonderful is it has to be real enough to what humans hypothetically could do that you identify with it and that's why you get so strongly invested with these characters yes yeah that's I really want to get George R. Martin in here the guy who wrote the Game of Thrones series because the thing that really strikes me about him is that his profound understanding of every angle of human nature that still exists today writing about what is fiction only a Middle East or not Middle East like medieval time period or you know 2000 years ago type time period his understanding of human instincts to the most negative degree and the most positive degree is almost unlike anything I've ever seen they also have to understand archetypes of heroes like you ever seen read the book um power of myth by Joseph Campbell I know the book I have not read it though basically he examines across many of the world religions from like little uh you know command she tribes to Hindu whatever um that's not it uh Hindu that's the language uh anyways all world religions and looks at the common archetypes of the hero myth of the villain myth and how they all kind of boil out to similar things and a good fiction person knows how to integrate that and uh and then you can tell like if they don't understand human psychology well it's going to be a flop you're not going to really pull with the character absolutely like people need to feel like they understand people that they even don't want to understand you want to be tricked into it you know and there's a part of them that you see in yourself yes or that you hate within yourself and that's like a lot of times creates the villain like the the the the the trait that you don't like about yourself that the villain is doing like that's what makes you hate him even more because you know you're capable of that also yes I'm not just saying this to glaze you but I think that that really comes across in the work you've done across the spectrum of all these different topics to where you meet people that are great and people that are not so great and then more than likely people who are somewhere in between a lot of the times and I think we said it earlier in some context but overall like you do such a good job of just being a normal joe with them a normal human asking questions to try to understand that they express themselves in a way where they're usually taking you through their literal environment because you're on the scene with them they express themselves in a way that even if we don't fuck with them, the audience, we understand where they're coming from, even if we hate them for it. And there's, I think probably some of that feel like putting two and two together here that you very clearly have for that naturally has to come from your extensive reading, which I think is a great example for everyone too, because I, you know, not to sound like a fucking old person here, but feel like, you know, too much of reading is now just quick hits online and not actually getting immersed in books and stuff like that. And we really, it helps when you do that. Well, I think the other thing, I was thinking about, could I add a little party at my house and I've been around a little bit getting in gatherings. And to me, if you don't enjoy gatherings with other people, you're not good at it is because you're a bad question asker. Because if you can ask questions of people, you keep the ball in the air, eventually you're going to learn something that's interesting that opens up further conversation. But if you're the person at a party where you're really quiet, you don't know what to do. It's because you don't know how to ask a question and engage somebody. And by reading, that becomes, you become well versed enough that you can hit almost any topic. And so that's the superpower of reading. And I think, what do they say? If you have a book with you, you're never without a friend, you know, you should travel everywhere you are with a book. Because it's a great comfort sometimes. Like, I remember being really sick in the jungle. I wasn't probably 19 sophomore year of college. I was living with a tribe in the Ecuadorian jungle. We took a little six-seater from a tribal airport into the jungle. And like, day two or three, I was miserably sick. I was drinking the spit. I was covered in mosquito bites. And I was laying on this, the bed there was like this wooden rack that was elevated maybe four or five feet so that maybe it was mostly bugs or creatures couldn't get to you. But I was miserably sick. And I had the book endurance. I think that's the Pearl Harbor, or the prisoner of war camp story where they got, they made them up. It's on endurance. It's the Angelina Jolie directed one in something like unbreakable or something like that. One of those adjectives that you're not going to persist. Yeah. And so I remember reading that and thinking about what that guy was going through. And then I started feeling not sorry for myself anymore, not alone, not like, I'm going to get through this. And then it was like, as I was starting to get that feeling, a little kid walked in, gave me a bunch of bananas from a tree to make sure I was okay. Then they left me there for a little while longer. And after a little while, I recovered the next day and I was kind of back in action. But a book is always something that in a moment of need. Like right now, the reason I bought Teddy Roosevelt, some more books on him, the Edmund Morris series. I'd read the first one, but he has two more is I think we need a modern day Teddy Roosevelt to come about. A guy that can fight the power of a guy that loves nature, fights for people. I mean, Teddy Roosevelt was one of the guys that he was a police commissioner in New York. And he went around the beat with Jacob Rees, who is the first famous flash photographer. And this is where they photographed how the other half lived is what they called the photo series. And it was basically showing the slum tenements of how some people are doing these like 96 hour a week factory jobs. And then they come in these immigrant families share one bedroom, two bedrooms, and 12 people. But I want to read about the people that inspire me to be the man. I think I hope to be where I want to be or help me identify the people out in the world that are that hero archetype that we need. And you were telling me you read like six books on four or five Teddy Roosevelt books. Yeah, favorite president of all time. I would say him and Benjamin Franklin are my two favorite Americans that I would recommend their biography. Yeah, which which is your Ben Franklin biography of choice? Well, what's them? Who's the one that does all these two? Who's the one that also did Steve Jobs? That's Walter Isaacs. Walter Isaacs. So the other one that was the Pulitzer Prize runner-up a few years before Walter did his was H.W. Brands. Okay, you ever hear this? I have to look at the cover to see if I've run that or not. Yeah. So H.W. is written 42 American history books in 39 years. Now we just had him in that seat, which was the coolest fucking thing ever. Those guys have to research meticulously. They have to go through old documents to do that in less than a year is almost unbelievable. How long is his book? His books range from 350 to like a thousand pages. Wow, that guy. He's a savage. So he just puts the hours and there's no way around brother. He is in it for the love of the game. Like you can just he walked in here. He's a great guy. Very quiet though. Like D.F. wasn't here yet. And he came in and I could not make conversation with him. And I'm like sitting here, setting up the production. I'm like, oh no. He's one of those people who's like an amazing writer, but like not a talker. And then we turned on the cameras. It was like a lightning rod hit his soul. I couldn't stop him. We talked for like three hours, 20 minutes, and he was just going and just talking about all this history. But we talked a lot about Ben Franklin, who's my favorite American of all time. I might be a little biased because I'm from the Philly area. But and then we one of the other guys we talked about was Teddy Roosevelt. And he said, he said something really interesting about Teddy Roosevelt. Like clearly he respected them. And you know, I obviously Teddy Roosevelt accomplished a lot of great things. But he said, you know, when you're writing a book about someone you're living with them for the whole time, you're writing it. Like because like you said, he's in the in the institutional libraries, reading every fucking thing that's ever been read letter they wrote all of it. And he goes you and then you're charting out their whole life. So you get to know them every step of the way. He said, when I finished the Ben Franklin one, and I was writing the last paragraph where I have to kill him because he dies. He said, I got misty eyed. And I was sad because it was like I was losing a friend that I had chilled with. He said, on the contrary, when Roosevelt took it at 60, I was like, oh thank God, this is over as he was such a fucking bulldog. And it was just like, whoa. I think Teddy Roosevelt is a fun guy to read about. But it would have been a little obnoxious to be his friend. Yeah. That's that energy. And he has the high pitch voice. And he all like, and also some of the stuff like the way he died. I think he got so ill from traveling to the Amazon rainforest as an older man. And he also ran for president right before that and causes his party that the election because he entered the phrase the third party guy. Um, he was a guy that was absolutely tenacious. A bulldog is a great way to describe Teddy Roosevelt. He just had that fighter spirit. And if you were a opponent of Teddy Roosevelt, oh my gosh, he's going to wear you down. Yeah. Yeah. He was infategable. Absolutely. And he didn't need to drink like two gallons of coffee a day or some shit. I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. Yeah. He was one anecdote about Teddy Roosevelt that I really love that shows the class of man he was compared to what we're dealing with today in the White House. And in general, in the White House is he would invite foreign leaders or his own cabinet members out. And they would cut like they would have like little pads and they would do like a whack like a sword fight with like blunt sticks. And they would beat the hell out of each other. He would invite guys to swim in the Potomac and the freezing river. Nice. He would take them on wild nature adventures or like kind of combat situations and combat situations. Yeah. Like fighting each other in the halls as a White House for fun. Love that. Love. How else do you use the halls at the White House, but that? Well, Scott Pacen's been doing that apparently a lot when he starves Cubans and Iranians. Before that, I'm just saying like obviously he's doing all that shit. He's starving Cubans and Iranians and bragging about it. But in the actual White House, my fucker's throwing hands. Really? Yeah. He beat the shit out of Elon. And then who do you just beat the shit out of another guy? Can we Google that? What Scott's background is an athlete? Does he have something going on? I don't think so. He just has a temper or he has a he's ready to go. Apparently he's got some hands. Really? Yeah. I'll give him that. Good for him. I mean, you have to look at the Yin and Yin everybody. And Scott, I don't have a ton of great things to say. But if you can throw a hand, Scott, good for you. I will say it's like if you, as a side note though, if you are Scott Pacen and you run around Davos, already bad optics in January, laughing and bragging about how you are going to take the Iranian currency to zero. Yeah. With the idea that it's going to force people in the streets and because they have an evil regime, which they do, they will then take action that results in the death of some of those people. You know, if I see a crazy PCPed out meth head outside who's going and screaming at everyone in their pathway and I run upstairs and grab a loaded fucking weapon and walk outside and hand it to them, I'm pretty sure I get charged as accessory for murder in the US. I don't know, I haven't pressed up my law. So how does he not get charged for accessory? Yeah. But I wonder this because at the highest level, you have to do cold calculations and what's his calculation? Hey, and again, I don't like his decision, but I'm playing the devil's advocate here, which is, hey, if I force some really fucked up economical situation in Iran, will I then save more people in the long run because I flush out this bad regime? So there's going to be a little short term pain for long term gain. I don't know. That's the way you have to wonder about how these people look at these situations. Because when you're at that level of government, you do have to look at it. Like that, that was one of the, there's a guy that wrote the book, Dan Wayne wrote, Breakneck. It's a book about how China's engineering state. Basically, the distinctions were the United States as a lawyer state, China as a engineering state. And right now, we're so handicapped by lawyers, like even publicly, things that should be publicly accessible, like a high school playground that we've all funded or track or pull up our, there's a fence 15 feet higher on the whole thing and we can't even access it because someone's afraid, someone will fall and then sue. And so that's where our [BLANK_AUDIO] Kelly's healers, whereas China's a Kelly's healers, they're going to lock everyone inside during COVID because they've read the numbers and, well, 0.01% of the people are going to do this, this and that, but as an engineering state, we're going to project a better future. Again, road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don't even know. In a lot of situations are damned if you do damned if you don't. They are, but it's like, I don't know, you always got to try to have the longest view in the room. And the longest view in the room does involve pain. It's interesting that you talk about like the trade off like, well, if they lose 7,000, we can take down the regime and it'll save 7 million over the next 50 years. It's, it's an interesting mathematical equation, the optics of like bragging about it and being excited that people are about to die. Not being sober about it. Yes. And aware of it. They're being like, haha power. That's right. Yeah. That's right. There's something that's wrong with that. And yeah, this is another one. I can't find the one either, deep, but he just beat the shit out of someone like for real in 2026. But this was, this was another one. He almost beat up Bill Polti. I'm going to punch you in your 25th face. That's what I'm talking about. There's a lot of underrated gays or like right wing gays, like Sam Altman. He's open about it. Sam Altman is gay. And he's open about it, too. Peter Teal's gay. He's open about it, too. You're talking about the ones that aren't open about it. Yeah, no, but like usually when you think gay, like I was just at a gay wedding a few months ago, you know, the guy had glitter on his face. It's pretty progressive. We're having a good time. We're dancing. And like that you can just guess what values they have, but we don't really think like when they're outside the stereotypical game, the Peter Teals, the Scott Bassons, Marco Rubio's, I'm just kidding, I don't know if he's there now, but pause. We don't usually think about the, those are like the maniacal gays, the scary ones. Like Peter Teal might have someone in a dungeon right now. He definitely, you know, pure spec here. Yeah, I'm going to agree with Deek. And that twink might want to be in the dungeon is the thing. You want to be in the dungeon. No, that twink. Oh, the twink does. I want to be in Peter Teal. Okay. Thank you. I'm trying to take a trip to Argentina long pause here. It depends on the story. But if it's involving Peter Teal, you didn't hear about this. He's moving out there. Yeah, he fled to the fucking Argentina, Argentina, which we're talking about, remember we're talking about transnational elites, Argentina is another place that if you're looking at the lens through Israel. Let's leave that in the past because we've talked about it in my ad nausea, but I just diva mirror over here like this right now. Oh, my God. It is interesting though. There's some, there's some money flowing there. They have their hooks in a lot of places. Yeah, just a few for sure. Yeah, deep, deep sergeant, deep is on it. I also recently read Henry Ford and I won't say the title of the book, but I, um, I had to bounce that out with BB. So now you guys understand my trajectory, okay? Oh yeah, I did see this graph. What is this Steve? What am I looking at? Countries within. Oh God. Yeah, countries within the range of Iran's missiles. Israel's missions are. Sorry. Israel's. Of Israel's. Oh no. No, Australia is starting to look Argentina is dangerously not in that range. Mexico's looking pretty good too. Mexico's looking clean as fuck. New Zealand looks like a solid place to New Zealand. New Zealand looks like a really solid place to be. Yeah. Yeah, you just did a video on some billionaire bunkers, right? Mm-hmm. We just talked to. The guy's name was Ron Hubbard not to be confused with El Ron Hubbard of the Scientology branch. He's kind of this autistic savant, I would say, that if what he's saying is correct, but it's credentials. He has like an engineering degree, a physics degree, and something else. And he's been obsessed with making bunkers for a while. And he's now the number one bunker producer in the world. He's done them for Kim Kardashian, the tape brothers, Zuckerberg, and then a bunch of people that signed NDAs with him where he can't talk about it. And he's also, Oh, it was for their show and it was used as more of a set and never even went underground. It was more of like a cool thing they could do for the reality show. But there was definitely, I think, a little bit of fear mongering that episode. I don't know if everything, because he said half the scientists that developed the COVID vaccine, COVID-19 vaccine were in his office. Do you think those scientists are like, "Hey, I work for Pfizer. I just did the vaccine and I would love a bunker." Like I just don't know, I feel like that stuff is more secretive. So maybe that was just good marketing, but he also said members of Trump's former cabinet. We see both Trump wants the bunker with the ballroom, Kushner wants a bunker in Albania. The bunker is the meta for the ultra-powerful right now. And is it just like the next flex, the next Rolex, the next fancy car where, "Hey, you got your bunker. I got my bunker. It's cool." Is there more sinister awareness of what could happen because they're going to the Davos commission or whatever they're going to do? It's hard for my head to not go to, there's some sort of sinister awareness. And then my next thought goes to, I hope it's just they're getting fearful of 0.1 percent possibility. And because they're rich enough, they're like, "Hey, fuck it, I'll have this just in case." And therefore, the percentage just say that thing won't happen. But I was talking to someone recently who's not, it doesn't have a bunker and done a money like that. But, you know, they're from, they're from the world that knows some things if they catch what I'm in. Yeah. Absolutely. And absolutely. And they were talking about some of the places that they're looking to move right now. Very strategically and specifically, located to minimize the effects of a thermonuclear or whatever the fucking term is. Can you share with us in the audience where these locations might be? Where's the graph we were just looking at? They were at this person was actually more referring to places in the United States that minimized it. Because of going underground or just in general. Just in general. And they had very specific reasons for it that were way above my pay grade. But can I guess and you'll tell me? Yeah. Keep the camera on time. Okay. I mean, I mean, I guess the kind of the tips away from, enough away from LA in New York in Chicago. So fuck, I'm probably fucked in the Milwaukee area. Louisiana? Who's nuke in Louisiana, dude? But what's Louisiana close to Louisiana is in the strike zone of, you know, as far as I know. You just correct me in the comments. But during the strike zone, even of like radiation, if Miami got hit and stuff like that. Okay. What about South Dakota? Those areas? Remote. So basically just remote away from city centers. Is that what we're talking here? Yeah. I think so. Okay. I'm not. It's fair to say. Okay. But I'll get some consulting with you to the show. That's just it. You know, I, when you keep hearing a preponderance of stuff like that, you're just like, all right. How bad is this? I don't know. Well, the one part that makes me feel a little better, and I don't know if it should be. Jersey was on the list. Right? Are you sure he was not on the list? Oh, yeah. I wonder why. We get hit. It's been nice knowing you people. But, you know, when you hear all this and then realize that in all likelihood, DARPA was like 30 years ahead, 30 years ago, you wonder if they're so far ahead now that they already haven't figured out, but that's the best case. That's like the good scenario. The bad scenario is we're already in it, you know, whatever the simulation is or the AI takeover and all the thermonuclear events that could come with that, and they just know when it's coming. I don't know. It's, it's beyond what I can conceive, you know? I mean, the, the good news is that experts can consistently get things wrong. Like the, you know, Y2K, there's a Y spread panic. All these experts were coming online, these smart, I really certified people were saying we should really watch out and then inevitably you woke up the next day and you're okay. And the positive thing is humans generally do find a way to innovate their way through. And I like to think that the elites need us alive to support the tax base that they take from. Like, would, would we be valuable if all of us were dead and then we also ruined multiple ecosystems and farmland, like that doesn't seem valuable to the people that need to survive. Yeah. Yeah. The elites need resources though that are just higher than the standard resources of the people around them, which means it could become a doggy dog world. If the elites were reduced to a world that's filled with just some other elites who are less elite and therefore their money means more, you know, among a smaller population, if you will, or if they're really worried about having to go to another planet. And that's actually just a sort of, I really want to do that. I don't want to fucking do that. I don't think, I don't think anyone wants to live inside like a little storage container on Mars when I have beautiful outdoors in the United States that walk through. Do you ever feel like you've been doing this a long enough time now and I know like you're really reflect. like the guy, but do you feel like yourself and your world view? Beyond world views, of course, that's going to change, but like, I don't know, your values, your outlook on life, changing. I have unfortunately got a lot more cynical in the last couple of years. Join the club. I was a very naive kid for a lot of my life. And now it feels like there's just one big ogre after another that you look out and you're like, this is fucked up. That's fucked up. And, and then when you know the will of the people, it's similar to how we feel. And that's still besides them, even though the masses feel this way, it doesn't seem to matter. That's what you were talking about earlier about the despair. But then, then I get revved up. And I'm like, okay, like we got this. We're going to make it through because there's people groups have been up against way worse and overcome it and made it happen. And we're capable of that. But I would say, I would say the other thing is being desensitized, just a natural consequence of the job. I remember being in Chicago three, four years ago, about to interview a fentanyl dealer shaking with nervous, nervousness in the car. Like, should we even go up here? This is a good idea. Like, are we going to die? Should we just go home? Like, considering just driving the car back home, which in one, one video shoot in Chicago to interview prostitutes on the street. I remember we actually drove halfway home because I chickened out. And then the guy convinced me to come back. And then it being a really great time. Great time. But now it's just like, Oh, yeah, you're selling fentanyl. Let's see it. Okay. Let's talk like it's so much more matter of fact. And I don't necessarily like all that about like, I don't like that sometimes. Well, you know, I mean, you're doing your job because you're, you're seeing the things, it's not necessarily doing the things, but like you're in there, capturing people doing what they do and reporting it to the rest of us and taking people to places that they would never go. And I think that's really, really fucking important. I think I just need to be very conscious of balancing it out. So like, when I had a cookout last week and had some really close family friends and just having good time or like seeing my boy run through their woods and like we're looking at turtle eggs that have just hatched. And then we go over there and we see the snapping turtle. Then we look for the woodpecker. Like that to me, like the beautiful little moments that I got a lock in. And that's the duality that I'm going to, those are the balancing forces that I got to appreciate. You got your house, your life, your wife, your kid nature, which is a friend. Wonderful, great portion of my life. Like I'm so lucky with my wife, my kid, my dog, and so I'm where I live. But then that's the weird part of that job now is too, like this job has how it would become financially successful. I was making 41K as a salesman for this company before I did this, but YouTube and took many years for YouTube to make any money. Now it's making more money than I ever thought I would make ever. And now I have this very safe, cushy life. And then I go out into, you know, I was just going to have a bunch of trap houses yesterday. And it's a funny dynamic that covering this shit has actually made my life safer or better. Actually, we were, we, we just did a New York trap house episode, but it's going to be a really, it's going to be a treat because we have a lot of mixture. We have the low-end crack houses. We have a high-end penthouse trapper. We have a bodega trapper, a van trapper, and a suburban trapper. If we start off on this suburban trap house, because we were driving, I'm like, there's no way this is a trap house. Like I was hearing the drugs he thinks that he was going to tell me he's going to show me, like, there's no way it's in houses like this because the neighbors would care. There's traffic. Okay. So we go in there. He starts, he pulls out crack cocaine, cocaine, pills, weed, and I'm interviewing him about it. And then there's a knock on the door. Travis, you do lock me out of the house, Travis. This guy, some, one of the guys in the crew, his mom showed up to the house. We were in the mom's house. And then she runs around to the back and McGell runs to the door to capture her, to capture her coming in. We got busted by this milk in Long Island. And, and then what happened is we were all bunched up by the front door trying to get out. And the guy couldn't unlock it. And me and my crew were in the back closest to the mom. She was running towards us. And it's like, I'm sorry, mom. If I would have known this was your place, I would have never come. I didn't. You got in this weird situation where I'm on your side. I would be mad at Travis, too. Yes. That's it. That's all you do. Okay. McGell's always about that life, though. McGell's on that shit. And he's right here the whole time. He doesn't move. Just like this. He's watching you get in water, but he's more, getting more. Well, Tom and Jay, we got to get you the airport. Otherwise, you'd be here a while longer. But I'm proud of you, bro. Keep doing your thing. It's always great to see you progressing and tackling more and more important stories and everything. And, you know, I know you're going to be doing this for decades to come. Whoa. Hopefully we both are. We both will be. Yeah. And I think we're here for the long haul. But everyone goes, subscribe to Tommy's channel. If we collab this, you'll be able to click it down below. If not, it'll be in the description. But I'll see you for round five. Sometimes. Thank you, brother. All right. Everybody else you know what it is. Give us a thought. Get back to me. Peace. Hey, guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five star review. Thank you.