Nest Sessions: Genevieve Schatz on being clairvoyant

we're going to start with a very simple question okay i'd just love to know your name and in your own description of yourself what it is that you do my full name is genevieve shatz great name thank you i am a human woman mother of two young children um currently the things that i'm doing include meditating writing music poetry singing um giving clairvoyant readings as a psychic um yeah an intuitive clairvoyant person i also am studying child development oh my god these are so many things uh this is a big list i'm also starring in a play that my mom just wrote that is getting a world premiere in carpentaria oh that's really cute as cinderella is it a very serious play or a light it's a comedy it is a fairy tale play where all of the roles have become self-aware from going to therapy like the big bad wolf little red oh that's really funny it's a very serious play and it's a very serious play and it's a very fun white it's so funny who do you play cinderella yeah and you've known rob for a while right not to go to behind the scenes but how long have you known this man for roughly wow probably almost 20 years oh my god yeah i don't want to go too far down this path but i'm curious like has he changed a lot over that time or is it the same because in new zealand we always have this insult like you've changed whereas obviously we all change right but i always find it so funny thinking about people that have known each other for a long time if they have changed i would say that the essence of rob is so purely still the same yeah you still rob yeah it's just like rob you've changed in the sense that you've expanded your capacity to offer your resources and help you know it's like you've always been uh somebody who you've always been somebody who has been a part of your life and you've always been a part of your wanted to champion the best in people and like bring out their gifts and um support people you know just kind of sharing this but you're so right sharing their gifts and um you know you've changed in the sense that like somehow you've become more available to more people and i've experienced this but he's helped me so much here yes it's insane this is exactly what this is what he does yes such a beautiful wonderful human thank you um i i've told rob even when we were younger um like two decades ago i remember one of the most uh remarkable things was just how safe i felt around rob and um yeah you allow other people to be very comfortable in their own skin and then you get to know them deeply um because of that yeah they kind of come out from hiding and you know i couldn't agree more i could go on and on no no whoever's cutting this make sure the camera remains on rob's face that entire time but now i can be the first time i met rob was on a zoom for um for armchair and i was very nervous and he instantly makes you feel yes at home and chill yes okay but back at you okay jenny was in a band called company of thieves yes at that time there we go and i remember the first time i saw you sing really was at the union in naperville is that chicago outside of chicago okay and then we went for ice cream afterwards was that a mint chip day or like a chocolate cookie dough day i love mint chip it's the best flavor me too yeah it's the best one controversial some people think it tastes like toothpaste i agree green or classic vanilla oh yeah green my god which is calvin's favorite flavor now but yeah so you met back then via music yeah oh yeah i'm talking about music i'm so happy to see you incorporating music into this podcast because it's been a long time coming yeah yeah it's been really fun putting this together actually so thank you for coming in and doing this thank you for having me now we're going to talk about your very specific area of expertise besides music which is clairvoyance yes but firstly i am kind of hungry and you were part of the show is bringing in sort of a unique american food that i haven't experienced and you have some kind of tin sitting on the table and i'm wondering what you're going to do with that i'm wondering what you brought in okay well you have probably experienced this but it is i'll decide okay it's very it's very chicago i know instantly what it is i feel like looking at that tin i feel like there's some kind of cookie that's what that says to me as a new zealander like i see a tin like that and it's usually like a christmas cookie that comes out well one third of it will have the sweetness of a cookie okay is it like what is it like a cake cookie a chip i don't know i don't know i don't know well but it's fucking massive whatever it is popped corn chicago people in chicago oh my god around the block this is a giant vat of three different flavors of popcorn yes yes this is cheddar cheese made with real cheddar uh kettle caramel corn and then buttered popcorn and this is a chicago made treat yes since the 40s and um family owned they they bake small batches fresh and then they send it to you like the day that they i mean this smells amazing good it's very fresh do you have a preference on the flavor in here i like all three um mix the classic chicago mix is this classic over here the caramel with the cheddar oh yeah wow yes so what have i just had this one that's the butter butter butter delicious cheese yeah good right really good really good cheddar popcorn never in my life it's the first is that a chicago thing or just this is chicago's version of a cheddar corn the chicago thing is the cheddar with the caramel that's like and i was thinking you know a uniquely american snack like obviously corn has long-standing roots indigenous in the americas central south america yeah but in the u.s it is the number one most popular snack in illinois it is the official snack oh really which is yeah the state that we grew up in because i i mean i purely associate popcorn with the movies like that's what it means in new zealand all it is is movies which i still have obviously it's still a thing here but it extends beyond that in the u.s yes they use it for decorative purposes so say again decorative purposes i don't know i don't know i don't know yeah like christmas the natives all right yeah all kinds of stuff it's it's sewn into headdresses holy shit that sweet guy that caramel it's so good right caramel popcorn not caramel popcorn that's good but yeah i was thinking about how in modern day u.s popcorn is always just like entertain me yeah you know oh haha i'm gonna sit back and like observe you know i'm gonna be passively observing this thing and i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna while i'm just crunching away yeah so it seemed like a fun one to bring here thank you this is freaking delicious and more fun no offense carrots i brought you guys oh um heart-shaped loomel nadis deep dish cheese pizzas that you can take home and make okay this is being delivered from off camera okay oh my god okay so explain okay so explain this because i feel like valentine day is just been and gone in america this isn't valentine's day related no they have these you know you can get them year-round for special dates uh-huh um i just felt so grateful that you invited me here so i want to give you an extra silly shape for this this is really this is really cute it's so yummy so you can get these year-round just a heart-shaped pizza yeah they ship them all over the country so when we did chicago we had a live show there and the three days leading up yeah it's so much do you think it's going to be a lot of fun yeah it's going to be a lot of fun deep dish pizza yum oh our fridge was like five we could only have like half a slice it's so good so but just quickly this brand is like a local loved brand yes in chicago thank you so much and they also have like cornmeal in their crust or something it's insane it's so good what is healthier me consuming one heart-shaped pizza or this entire um vat of popcorn any idea i think it's all a state of mind yeah i like that corn's a vegetable i'd go with the pizza now wait just just before we get into the clairvoyance tell me a little bit about how you got into music was that because we're going to hear some songs from you yeah shortly but how did was that like from deep-rooted childhood or did it come later my earliest memories are just listening to vinyl records on my dad's victrola speaker What bands? The Beatles. um the beach boys jazz lots of jazz like billy holiday and ella fitzgerald and even you know getting into like nina simone and yeah and were you sort of singing along or always definitely my dad when he was younger he helped build the radio station at his high school that is like still up and running today and he was a dj on a radio station called q101 which was like the alternative rock station in chicago oh so your dad was like cool yes it was a good station yeah so but then that was like before i was ever born um but his love of music and specifically like bands and stuff was kind of my in route to his heart so it was like a great way to you know bond with him and it's always been yeah a big component of me like getting in touch with my own masculine energy and my own inner father archetype and all that stuff we were joking about this earlier before we were rolling but rob and i had this ongoing thing where i only listened to male vocalists just because i grew up in metal and i'm just just to put my cards on the table i'm like a very basic metal head from new zealand so i grew up listening to tool deftones nine inch nails you know that kind of stuff just very you know yeah and so that's why i always listen to these like male vocalists and i'm just saying this because my point is being a female in music and going into the world of music was that tricky and difficult i imagine it was imagine it's a different experience going in being a female vocalist to a male vocalist i'm sure we've got people like me going like yeah man you know it's really silly i mean of course everyone's just totally different but i did often find that you know going into a venue with my punk rock bands they would say like okay everyone here's your passes and like are you the merch girl oh my god yeah i'm the lead singer thank you very much yeah people always deflecting to the males around you yes you always had a real rock and roll band definitely with you too yeah which even broke the conventions even more that's true and people would have a hard time kind of knowing how to actually just receive what was happening like they would often be like there's a couple females i can think of to compare her to and they would just drop like you know the number one you know ones that were playing on the radio at the time and and i'd always think like i'm nothing i don't sound like them yeah they're wonderful yeah but that's not me yeah did you enjoy pushing through that or was it a pain in the ass i think i hurt myself physically to try to push through that actually yeah i think i tried to sing harder and longer and louder and uh i think i was afraid to actually be vulnerable enough to show my gentle vibration but i will say her on stage was so captivating yeah like yeah you would control the entire room when you were up there singing it was it was a special thing to see yeah i've seen videos like on youtube i haven't seen you perform live before but yeah i completely see that yeah i know it was a wonderful experience and i think it was the only way that i could have gone it was amazing to grow up in chicago and to have a rock band and to play those venues and to also ride the wave and get out of the city you know for being on tour and just going around and sharing music and having that be a way to have a conversation with someone or break the ice with someone and totally the secret society of semi-homemade listen up sam's club has pre-made dishes for a thanksgiving feast that's ready in two hours all while tasting suspiciously homemade come join us sam's club individual oven times may vary the lemonati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything even our music that hit song named after the color of lemons not a coincidence big lemon has been pulling strings in the industry for years think about it but now seven up is fighting back with their new lime lemon soda now lime comes first seven up flip the sip did you make it to down under to new zealand and australia not yet okay it's still gonna happen that would be we'll sort it out that'd be so fun there's no natural pivot into this but obviously in in this in in every episode we do of new sessions like to talk to an amazing american musician about something specific they know that's not music related at all and i understand clairvoyance clairvoyance clairvoyance i can't even say the word is something that you specialize in yeah something that i know very little about i feel like the closest i have very early on in flightless bird i went to a town in florida um that was just built of spiritualists okay and they dealt with communicating with people that had passed on that was the whole thing was that with the devil chair they had the devil chair in that particular there's a particular landmark that we couldn't talk about in that episode or they'd run me out of town but that's a side dish yeah now we can say it now we can say it so what is this devil chair it's a chair in a graveyard it's a chair in a graveyard it's very spiritually charged and yeah part of the agreement of me interviewing spiritualists in that town was that i couldn't mention the devil's chair we had to bleep it we had to bleep it out so interesting yeah let's not bring up the shadow aspect it was actually a really intense episode because i had to sign like a document saying i wouldn't talk about certain things and that town was pretty i remember it was like everyone would drop that camera and i was like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry to abandon them and all the spiritualists would adopt these cats and look after them which was baller they had a lot of vultures because their local tip just had a lot of vultures and it was a town full of spiritualists so i walked into this tiny town spiritualists vultures and a ton of cats and it was a wild vibe very long-winded way of just saying like that's the last time i thought about people communicating with like something that's not in front of us and that's the end of my very long-winded segue i like to finding out about i want to know how you got into this and what it means okay i have a way of connecting it to the music writing songs i always used visions that i had whether it was from meditations or dreams or just emotions that i was trying to work through and i would sort of see a picture i didn't know that it was called clairvoyance it was just a thing that i had access to um and it wasn't until i went on tour with my band all over the u.s that i really had it like blown back open from childhood because it was always something when i was a kid that i had um but i thought that everyone navigated reality that way i didn't realize that that was like not something where you know you can say um picture an apple and you know everyone you think can picture an apple of some kind and they could describe it some people like their mouths will start salivating but some people just can't picture an apple no and you think that your experience is the same as everyone else's it's like some people don't have an internal voice yes other people do and you don't think that everyone is different to you yes and actually around the age of like four to seven is when you develop that ability so if something kind of tragic or challenging happens in your life at that time you don't have the safe place to start to have conversations outside with other people to develop your inner voice because your thinking right develops through conversation so if you find someone who's constantly narrating out loud all the time and it's usually something in that age range so so when you were a kid how did it show up that you were experiencing something that other kids weren't like when you look back in hindsight it came from my parents getting divorced and just spending time with them in intimate settings where they were saying things but I was able to sense like feel emotionally other things that they weren't saying and then getting images of things that they were handling in their space and just trying to kind of sort through what was what it was like oh they're not really sharing the full story didn't know why of course it wasn't appropriate but I was able to see and feel other things so it was like oh I'm not really sharing this kind of like you know gift that came out of all of that tension wait so wind it straight back then for people like me that are completely ignorant to this what clairvoyance is it looking into someone else's mind or is it looking into the mind of people that have like passed on like I don't understand like what it is like I don't get it so clairvoyance just means clear seeing so in the realm of psychic stuff there's um all different kinds of gifts there's like you know clear smelling clairvoyance clear audience where you can hear things clairsentience clear feeling it's just a intuition yeah gotcha and so it's clairvoyance is really about the third eye so it's the sixth chakra in the center of your head um the pineal gland and it's the part of you that can see vision that has an inner vision so um reading minds different different thing mediumship reading those who have crossed over into another realm or those who have died or passed on another thing ignore my whole spiritualist rant from 10 minutes ago i love it okay yeah yeah yeah so when i went on tour with the band i was meeting people from all over the country and because i was sharing music they felt compelled to come up to me and share their life stories or maybe like the very acute challenge that they were in at the time or something that like helped them transform and i was like getting inundated with people's stuff and i did not have my clairvoyance turned on which is my vision i actually was like in my super empathy mode as an empath and so i was getting sick all the time like on the road we were just traveling you know every night going to a different i was exhausted yeah i was emotionally absorbing all these people's stuff i was getting um uh bronchitis which is linked to the lungs which is about grief so i was like kind of holding on to grief for other people and then moving to the next city and bringing more and more and more and i would get this like chronic bronchitis and i was like you know miserable thing to behave while you're trying to perform yeah it was horrible and i sang through bronchitis many times yes doing the So there was a point in 2012 when I was like kind of on the edge of the band. We were on a hiatus. We were taking a break. And I'm just going to tell you how I really got into this. Yeah, no, please. This is really bizarre. Okay, so Chris and I were at a park in Chicago. And we were just, you know, taking a walk. And we were leaning against this chain link fence and just sort of like having a conversation, but not looking at each other. We were looking at the people in the park. And all across the field, there was this man with his little puppy that he was trying to train. And he was getting so frustrated with this sweet, innocent little puppy. And he started yelling at him. And he was just freaking out. And I was just gently holding on to the chain link fence. And. And I felt myself, like me as a being, my spirit, kind of leave my body. So my body was holding on to the fence, talking to Chris. And I felt myself rushing forward, running through the field to get up to the puppy and like just gently. Ha. Just. But you're okay. Yeah, pet his ear. Yeah, you're not in trouble. You're doing such a good job. I know you're trying to listen. I know it's hard. And I had this whole moment. It happened like in a blink of an eye. Wow, what a trip. And then I realized back at the fence that the puppy had been able to sit for its owner. And the puppy and its owner were staring at me from across the field because he was listening to his owner. And I was like, I had this back of my body. And I was like, oh, my God. And I was like, did you see the puppy? Because we were both very upset about the puppy getting this bad treatment. Yeah, having a horrible time. And he was like, yeah. And I was like, that was me. That was me. It was because I went across the field and I just went and I just like worked with the puppy to get it to listen to its owner. And now they're staring at me. And I was just like, you know what I mean? And it was such a wild feeling. I didn't know what it was. I felt ungrounded. I was jittery and shaky. I was excited. And I also felt like. Yeah, like what the hell just happened? What the heck is going on? And at that exact moment, an old friend of mine was walking down the street and she's like, hey, it's so good to see you guys. And how's it going? What's going on? And I just blurted it out. I was like, hi, it's good to see you. This is so weird. I just we're standing here. And I saw, you know, I went across the field. I came back, you know, like, do I sound crazy? And she just totally nonchalant was like, oh, you just astral projected across the field. You must be psychic. You know, you could really learn to like hone those skills. There's actually a school. On this street, on Clark Street, like a few blocks that way, called InVision. And it's, you know, a place where you can develop your psychic abilities. You should check it out sometime. Gives me a huge hug. Just like the biggest boon. Like she just threw me a bone. I mean, I was literally like, should I get locked up? Like something's really wrong. Any other friend would be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. Turns out she goes to that psychic school as well. What? And she knows about it because she goes there. Holy shit. Hadn't seen her in years. So this was like a fork in the road. Yes. Almost. Like this was like a new thing. This was an awakening. And how far into your music career was this? You were like touring all over the place. Yeah. Doing that life. And then this thing arrived. Yeah. It was like six years into, you know, playing live shows and touring. So you enrolled in the school? I did. It was a building on Clark Street that it was on the third floor. It was a walk up. And my gosh, it was like Hogwarts. Like you got in and there were like 10 teachers that were all very distinct and very beautiful and strange and alluring and kind of scary. You stood out. Yeah. In a crowd, you'd be like, okay, what's going on with that person? And they all had different specialties. There was like intuition, which is just knowing. There was, you know, classes on being an empath, which is just clear. And there was like a feeling where like, you know, you walk into a room and your stomach feels strange and you're like, something's off. Someone's like in an argument. There was clairvoyance where you learn how to convert the feeling into images. So like a way of describing energy in a symbolic image or a color or a vibration. And there was like learning how to, you know, like talk to your pet, like telepathy. It was so amazing. And yeah. I went and I took just like a meditation, a psychic meditation class, just like the first class to learn how to sit in a room full of people with your eyes closed. That was such a big deal for me. I was like, oh my God, I've never felt safe enough to sit in a room of strangers and close my eyes. Like it's a weird thing to do. What the heck is going to happen? Yeah. Somebody's going to attack me or something. That's not something you do on tour. Definitely not. And yeah, just learned how to essentially say. Say hello to myself. Like you say hello to your body from you, the infinite eternal being, which is spirit. And then you say from your body, like, hello, spirit. And then you do like a scan of your body to kind of kind of get a like a what's what and maybe notice where there's tension or where you need to breathe into. And then from there, you can learn how to like, you know, through these visualizations, like how to get grounded, which means like how to connect. To the center of the earth and find the support underneath you that like helps you feel like you can belong and be safely embodied. And then how to run earth energy and how to run cosmic energy from the stars. It sounds really good and positive. It's so fun. It's so positive. It's so big. I'm the most cynical person on earth. That's fine. And a big struggle I have if I walk into any situation is I go into like, it makes me have a lot less fun in life than I should because I get so cynical about everything. When you walked into that school and you saw all these like different, like vibrant, unique people, was there any part of you that's like, what is this? Or did it all just kind of like make sense? I felt intimidated at first and a little bit skeptical. Like, what is this about? Are they trying to get my money? It was just like a con of some kind or something. Yeah. And even that was kind of exciting to consider. Like, well, heck, they're pulling it off. If that's what this is. But I think something that was really comforting was just seeing so many different kinds of people, different shapes of people, different ages of people, different colors of people. And yeah, it just, it was like, oh, wow, everyone here is trying to sincerely connect with each other and with themselves, with their soul. I know. And you can argue, you know, all the things about how all those. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like. Sitting and having like real intimate interactions with people that brought out their unique life force energy. And everyone has different stories and different strengths and different weaknesses. And yeah, just learning how to say hello to those aspects of everyone. You talked about that experience in the park where like you were like thrust out of your body and you were like somewhere else. Could you hone that in different ways? Like, what have you learned since honing in? And like, what can you do? Like, how has that changed you? Oh, wow. Over the years, I took many, many classes from that school and from other schools, even online. line because how long ago was this this was that was in 2012 okay yeah so what we're in 2026 is it like 14 years okay yeah amazing so so i learned how to read life force energy which means like i'll close my eyes and i'll kind of ground my body to the center of the earth for support and i connect up to you know the divine source god a higher power um because that's my own trip and um i will tune each of my chakras to a certain opening like a certain percentage so that i don't take in too much um i can kind of just like tune down my lower chakras it's really interesting you don't want to be like back when you're on tour absorbing like too much yeah so like all those lower body ones they go down you know even my heart kind of goes down because i don't want to be um in like a great big like loving affinity i want to just kind of be more neutral in the center of my head and i'll like open up my fifth so that i can communicate and i'll open up my sixth 100 and sometimes i'll open up my crown a ton to this like connection to my higher self but basically i learned about the chakra system which are these energy centers in your body that um um receive and direct energy so they also perceive it um and for many many years just practiced essentially yeah taking in information through different energy centers and figuring out like what was my shit like what was i projecting and what was actually coming from this other being's life and space so that you can get all of your own stuff out of the way because that's really yeah it gets it gets messy i mean our own shit is everywhere yeah i think this would be quite good for me i think i'm just consumed with my own shit everywhere it's busy and horrible if you could tap out of that for a bit brilliant yeah it can be really helpful to also recognize the matches that you have with other people and you know sometimes it can be argued that what is able to be seen is just brought up in the moment between those two people because it benefits both kind of like a person and that's what we're talking about right and i think the other thing that's really cool about this is that you know if you're in a relationship that's being pulled is for both to see yeah right or the opposite when there's relationships that are more toxic and probably not helpful energy right and then you know you learn how to protect your energy so you learn how to you know even like just through using a symbol like you could use a symbol of like a golden bubble or a rose or i like to use a rose a lot because in the school that i went to it's very similar to a human being it's very delicate much more delicate even how has that affected your music because i feel like because i have no musical ability but i feel like musicians don't know that yet thank you i appreciate that you're gonna start drum lessons i'm gonna start drum lessons tomorrow um but no i you know i look at musicians like you and i think you're tapped into like some other realm that i don't understand has this changed your music and the way you perceive music or is it that they separate things yeah um it a allows me to listen in a much more discerning way um because i can understand now why something might appeal to me based on where it lights me up in my energy system so i'll be like oh i love this song or this music because you know my heart is wide open and i feel affinity for it and it helps um validate my identity you know or i'll be like oh wow this song i'm like jamming this my second chakra which is all like emotion sensuality sexuality like my body is locked into this you know it's more biological than it is about you know something else or especially writing lyrics i would say it helps because i think my lyrics have become less poetic and mysterious and more kind of like a conversation that you would have with a good friend but then like put it to a melody yeah for better or for worse we don't know but yeah i think i used to be really afraid to be seen in my lyrics um i was very excited to be heard in my singing but now i'm able to kind of like come forward and be seen in my lyrics more yeah it sounds like you're being more honest yeah not as afraid to just say the thing how have you found people around you reacting to this because i feel like if you're having this like revelation about something about yourself like we're talking about it very openly now yeah but have you found like you're talking about this with some of your friends in the industry or or your family or whatever and they're like what the are you talking about i don't understand what you're doing yeah it depends most people in my life don't even really know this about me yeah okay um which is because they're discovering it right now yeah yeah yeah um you know so it's not something you go around like broadcasting to the world no not necessarily if i sense that someone is on like a similar frequency range as me where they could be you know enjoying that i'll bring it up um and then if you spend any time with me like after a while when you get to know me it comes up because it's like i need to explain like why i'm so sensitive or why i'm able to pick up on this thing or why i always say that thing that you are like oh that's so wild that you would bring that up because you know it's like because it's like right there i can almost like touch it you know in someone's aura so it's like their energetic feeling like i can almost like touch it you know in someone's aura so it's like their energetic field and a lot of my family has never even asked me about it i don't know what they think you can stand in this podcast yeah and they can give like a little bit of feedback under the wherever they're listening to it in the comment section yeah how do you give readings do people come to you in person are they on the internet like how does that work yeah i give readings in person i give them on the phone via text um i give them off of an app called sanctuary which is this of course it's kind of like uber for psychics like you can just get one on demand oh amazing matches you up yeah it's wild yeah people can read your bio and then if they feel like what you said resonates with them they'll just hit you up and if you're available that's wild like i can be sitting with my family and then ding and i'm like okay yeah and then you got a session i gotta come in talk to these people from around the world i've you know yeah yeah you would meet so many people as well oh my gosh it's so amazing is it with mostly within america or is it international i have a list right now of over 70 different countries get out any kiwis in the mix any new zealand tons yes yes um so like since what like november of 2020 i've given like over 5 000 readings holy that's from people all over the world and it has been so clarifying of the kinds of themes that we explore as humans as people um it's so incredibly unifying actually no matter where people are coming from there are just like a handful of things that everyone is really working through no just because i i had a friend that was into astrology in a big way and i'd always like all over it because i'm like i'm like an atheist i'm just all you know yeah cynical about everything but she explained to me that like you can be as cynical as you want but like what it gives you is this shared language to talk about feelings and reality and what's going on because you've got these like symbols and ideas and i kind of got that and it sounds like i can kind of this is a similar thing where like it gives you like a way to speak about universal things that we're all trying to figure out yeah like big universal things that for each individual person come up in different symbolic images or colors or patterns that you know you can yeah link up with sync up with it's beautiful it's really nerdy as i'm saying things out loud i'm like this is really no nerdy is good it's weird how it's more mainstream than ever and yet it's also still kind of taboo yeah people think oh you're reading my mind it's like no no that would be so unethical to do that i mean i'm glad you're not reading my mind yeah i think it's good i feel uncomfortable you know it's like a private in here oh yeah and i think that's why i probably don't bring it up very much is because i don't want people to i notice sometimes people will shift and they'll start feeling like i know things about them that they don't want anyone to know and i'm like i am not interested in that if we sit down together and we have an agreement where we are there's consent and i'm able to like feel safe enough to like tune myself up and sit down and like start to read each layer of your aura you know as you're open to sharing it that's one thing yeah but i would never just like you know what does that look like an in-person one well it looks like it's different for everyone but it's like you and i sit down and it'd be fun to make tea or some kind of warm beverage just because i don't know you feel cozy um and then i would sit across from the person we would both put our feet on the floor just to have the connection of the earth underneath us and the reedy the person getting read would keep their eyes open and i the reader would close my eyes and then i would ground myself to the center of the earth and i would clear my space i would connect us with a clear line of energy for our communication's sake and then you know for me i like to connect us both up to you know our higher selves let's say and i'll ask for permission for um a blessing for this reading for the highest good to come forth and then basically like you know let's say i was doing an aura reading so i would close my eyes and then i would start at the first layer of your aura which basically means like the first chakra which is the root chakra energy center it projects like a movie projector we know about rob's history as a projectionist i've heard about it a lot so cool i know i know yes he so like the first layer of your aura um yeah it corresponds with your first chakra so it projects a layer out in front of you and around your whole body like in an egg shape right and um so that that deals with your safety security and survival space so it's interesting because what we keep closest to us is our safety security and survival right so i would read symbolic images in that layer and like colors and like what you're handling in the moment in real time in present time and then i would close up that picture and then we would go to the second chakra which is your lower belly like underneath your belly button the energy center that deals with emotions sensuality sexuality relationships creativity so that's a little bit further out from the first layer right then the third layer is your solar plexus so that's uh your willpower your goals ambitions your ability to take action and transform and that's a little bit further out your status then your fourth layer of your aura is your heart so this is like love affinity for yourself and others your identity are these getting more intense as you're growing up i don't know you tell me okay i feel like that a little bit fifth layer your throat so this is your communication space this is your intuition communication your energy with words then your sixth layer which is the center of your head your third eye that's your inner vision your ability to see energy the center of your head and neutrality neutrality is huge and then the top one in your body your body's aura seventh layer this is the only chakra that actually points upward all the other ones are forward this one connects you to your higher self all that is divine your knowing um you could say god source um and that one you know yeah like big trajectory as a being not necessarily this lifetime you know multiple ginormous moves yeah it feels big yeah and so it's interesting that when we meet people the one that hits first is actually that one it's the seventh layer the one that is your higher self so that's why first impressions are really interesting because it's like you kind of get a vibe of that being's essence right away right not their safety secure bible not their money their home their shelter their you know but like that bigger picture um so an aura reading is you read in real time what they're handling in each layer but then some people like to just have a grab bag reading and they come in and they are they have questions they want answers they want to ask whatever they want to ask they're dealing with problems that they want problems yeah it's almost like someone going into therapy for the first time fix me in an hour yeah yeah yeah is my so-and-so cheating on me and blah blah and you're like whoa that is so invasive like hello you know you're not here for that i have a side question and you don't have to answer this because maybe it's i don't know how this sits and and with with what you do you know in la you can get i've been to like some parties and you get like a photo taken and you get like colors yes an aura it's like an aura yes is that some or is that real or a photography yeah because i don't know i genuinely don't know whether that's like a scam or it's some of it is and some of it isn't it's a cool photo and i like talking to people about it because again it's that thing of opening up a conversation because you've got the shared thing yeah so the whole concept is that you put your hands on these metal plates it's fun to do pick up on your electromagnetic field so each color has a different frequency range so depending on where you're vibing they would show up right because it takes that information and then it translates it into a visual image i would say it's very similar to getting a clairvoyant reading because you know it's it's almost like i would pick up on something and then i could say for example like let's say i was reading your heart and i was like oh you know it's coming up as a light spring green i'm seeing a ton of creativity and curiosity and blah blah it's like somebody else who's a different camera might see that like a light green means something different to them maybe they associate it with something else or maybe somebody else would see like a totally different color you know pink and but to them it means the same thing as my light green you know what i mean anyway but i think that is it real why not yeah you know yeah it's just information yeah in a medium that is totally color it's a cool fucking photo it's so cool i have gotten so many have you got one of those no definitely i mean i've seen them i highly recommend them yeah it's a fun way especially if you get multiple ones in different times of your life it's a cool way to check in on what your energy was looking like at that moment you know like during my gosh the beginning of the last i was in america when that happened i was here randomly in 2016 i was at a killary victory party at a pub and then it where and then it took in la oh in la yeah with some new zealanders and then it turned wow it was shook i was in new york like a mile from each of their headquarters oh my god like because the swing was crazy it was like a roller coaster i remember my friends and i we were getting like nauseous crying laughing out of fear nauseous crying it was like it was because it was like i should have been so what i want to say was normally my aura photography um has lots of bright colors like rainbow even and like yellows and pinks and um then i got one right after that like within like two weeks and it was black exclusively black and a dark indigo blue like dark yeah and i was so morose just so disappointed and horrified and you could see it and i have never had one since that looks like that and looking back on that now holy shit it's even it means so much more because it's like it seemed like a bit of a it was almost like a it was like a blip yeah but now we're not that's what's annoying about now like it's not a blip it's like this thing we've settled into yeah it seemed like an accident the first time right yeah yeah what a mistake of yeah that was your facebook suddenly doing all this shit and it's like we can correct this perfect storm that's not who we are yeah yeah yeah but then it went yeah almost like a child that doesn't have the information where you're like oh you know okay it was like a bit of i remember even laughing with some friends it's like this is silly and this is going to be a silly time but it'll come back anyway anyway maybe this is a good time to segue we're going to have some you're going to play three beautiful songs um is there anything you can kind of tell us about what the songs are about or how that is is sort of that something you want to talk to thank you thank you so much well thanks for being here so wonderful yeah so the songs that we're going to play are unreleased so almost nobody has ever heard them maybe like a couple small live shows but they haven't even been recorded um so one is called butterfly and it is about transformation it's about getting in touch with the part of us that um feels like a young person innocent inner child that is maybe afraid to fully let go to become more than what you could even imagine you could be and um another one is called super ultraviolet love and that one is uh just about connecting with your eternal essence and um remembering yeah where you come from what you're made of and to kind of not be afraid to own that amount of love and light that is so um medicinal almost and then there's one called shine bright be a light to the world and that is a song i guess they're all very similar listen i'm a mother of two young children right now you can tell in your music i know i'm like breastfeeding my youngest baby right now and you can tell in my music well so thank you for coming in whilst you are raising some tiny children it's very generous of you they're in the car so that one yeah similar it's just about um it's actually inspired from this krishnamurti quote about um a light to oneself a light to the world which is sort of about getting in touch with yourself uh reflecting so that you can yeah bring that inner light out because um sometimes we find ourselves in a room where it seems really dark and heavy, and it can be hard to realize that you might be the light in that moment. You might be the bright light. So it's about that. Oh, I love that. That's fucking cool. Thank you. The Illuminati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows. Their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything, even our music. That hit song named after the color of lemons? Not a coincidence. Big Lemon has been pulling strings in the industry for years. Think about it. But now, 7-Up is fighting back with their new lime lemon soda. Now lime comes first. 7-Up, flip the sip. The secret society of semi-homemade? Listen up. Sam's Club has pre-made dishes for a Thanksgiving feast that's ready in two hours, all while tasting suspiciously homemade. Come join us. Sam's Club. Individual oven times may vary. Okay, this one is Super Ultra Violet Love. Come away with me To the moment right before you were born A forgotten dream Singing out despite the war You were born Trust in your process Finding your purpose All the steps you take All the ways you change Keeping it honest It ain't a contest All the moves you make All the moves you make All the chains you'll break You, you, a super ultra violet love You, you, won't give up, can't get it done But you, you, a super ultra violet love You, you, won't give up, can't get it done Give it to you, heal it, gonna be alright Gotta let go of the daily grind Give it to you, heal it, gonna be alright Heal it, gonna be just fine Gotta let go, gotta free your mind Under lock and key You ignite and can't ignore You were born Feeling wild and free Through the day and night Explore You were born Trust in your process Finding your purpose All the steps you take All the ways you change Keeping it honest It ain't a contest All the moves you make All the chains you'll break You, you, a super ultra violet love You, you, won't give up, can't get it done But you, you, a super ultra violet love You, you, a super ultra violet love You, you, a super ultra violet love Give it to you, heal it, gonna be alright Super love Gotta let go of the daily grind Super love Super love Yeah, yeah, yeah Oh, oh, oh, oh, super love Hey One, two, one, two, three, four Sometimes I hold the pain inside When life is feeling dark and quiet If I could show you all my heart, my mind, my soul, my smile, my spirit Then I could be a light to myself and the world and we could walk with one another shining bright for all to be seen and heard and celebrating one another sometimes i hold my love inside feeling afraid to risk rejection If I could show you all my heart, my mind, my smile, my soul's intention Then I could be a light to myself and the world And we could walk with one another Shining bright for all to be seen and heard And celebrating one another If I could show my heart, show your heart to the world If I could speak my mind Speak your mind to the world If I could show my smile Give your smile to the world If I could show you all my heart My mind, my soul, my smile my spirit then I could be a light to myself and the world and we could walk with one another shining bright for all to be seen and heard and celebrating one another Shine bright, be a light to the world Shine bright, be a light to the world I never ask, are we there yet? I like to hold back all my bets so I can keep dreamin'. So I can keep dreamin' I like to say it's all pretend I like to think it's not the end So I can keep dreamin' So I can keep dreamin' That one day I'll be a butterfly I, I, dance across the sky I, I, waiting for a miracle Up your vibes, flow like water Seem to pass the time One day I'll be a butterfly I dance across the sky When I feel invisible Close my eyes, spread my wings And I will fly so high One day I'll be a butterfly your weather pulls me down to earth your sunny face takes all my hurt so i can keep so i can keep ♪ I can't keep ♪ they're throwing stones around the world they're keeping me a little girl so i can keep dreaming so i can keep dreaming that one day i'll be a butterfly i dance across the sky waiting for a miracle up the vibes flow like water seem to pass that time one day i'll be a butterfly i dance across the sky i i i i I feel invisible, close my eyes, spread my wings and I will fly so high. One day I'll be a butterfly. It's just me changing. Oh yeah, it's alright. No need for a fight. Gonna be alright. Cause one day I'll be a butterfly. Dance across the sky. Waiting for a miracle. Up the vibes. Flow like water. Sing to pass the time. When I feel invisible, close my eyes, spread my wings and I will fly so high. Thank you.