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Neil deGrasse Tyson Vs. The Moon Landing | FILE_17 | Mystery Boys

In this episode of Expert to Expert, Dr. Mike DeGrasse Tyson discusses fundamental questions in cosmology, such as whether the universe expands into something or simply continues infinitely, emphasizing that these remain open scientific mysteries with no definitive answers. Tyson highlights the accessibility of cutting-edge astrophysics to the public, stressing that even the most profound questions—like the nature of dark matter or the origin of the universe—are still being actively researched. He argues against pseudoscientific beliefs, such as alien abductions or demonic forces, as distractions from real scientific inquiry, and warns that misinformation, especially when amplified by conspiracy theories, threatens democratic societies. He defends the transparency of science, citing institutions like NASA as trustworthy and publicly accountable, while criticizing the suppression of scientific findings—particularly in military or political contexts—as a threat to informed governance. Tyson also addresses public skepticism toward science, linking it to broader societal issues like climate change, rising natural disasters, and the Kessler effect from space debris. He ultimately calls for openness and honesty in scientific discovery, advocating that evidence—like alien encounters or new astronomical data—should be presented directly, not veiled in speculation. He concludes by stressing that true scientific progress depends on transparency, public trust, and the freedom to question, especially when faced with complex realities such as climate change, satellite dangers, or the unknown nature of the universe.

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(upbeat music) - Hi, and welcome to Expert to Expert. I'm Professor, jerps in our DERP, and with me is always my associate. - Baby strawberry. - And we have a very special guest expert with us today, Mike DeGrasse Tyson, Dr. Tyson. (audience clapping) - Hello, my first name is Neil. - Sorry, Neil? - That's different. - Neil, come on. - Mike is the boxer, yeah. - By the way, your cousin Mike. - Really? - Mike, I remember meeting him twice, like six years apart. Both times, he remembered my name. You know, I remember people's names I should remember. I call most of people work here, Tanner. But Mike Tyson, guy, the boxer, was that, I was fucking wild. Anyway, welcome, Dr. Neil. What are you, what are you not going on? What are you, what are you, what are you fucking? - Well, there's always something, you know, universe doesn't stop for anyone. - Okay, let me stop you there. - Whoa. - Looks like we got a-- - 'Cause you, you brought you, this is a question anybody who's ever taken acid. This is, this is how you know it's time to, to take Xanax and go to sleep, is you find yourself in an argument with somebody about how the universe expands. What is it expanding into? In other words, the idea is the universe is, 13.7 billion years old, it's, it has some kind of depth to it. But isn't the universe infinite? What's it expanding? - I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can answer that. No, I can answer that. - Thank you. - We don't, we don't know. (laughing) That's the answer. (laughing) - No, I thought, I thought I knew the answer. - It's very simple. I mean, the, the questions at the frontier of modern astrophysics are accessible to the public. The questions are accessible. What was around before the Big Bang? What's inside of a black hole? What is, the Nate, what is dark matter made of? What is dark energy? How is the universe infinite? These are questions, any of us, and come on, and we don't have an answer to any of them yet. - But philosophically, there can't be an end. Because the end would be its own thing. - I don't presume an answer about the universe. You're saying presumably, no, I'm not, I'm not going there. - Why? - I don't know. We're going to look. We're going to invent new telescopes and have new smart people born after this generation that'll apply their intellect to those very questions. - Is this, now, is this in your new book it's a, it's like a propendium? - Lost in space. - The compendium of facts about space, correct? - Lost in space. This book follows my previous book up just a few months ago called-- - Take me to your leader. - I call, take me to your leaders. That one, just to get you ready for your first alien encounter whenever that might happen. It's like the physics and the technologies of what that would be and how that would be like. And the assumptions you should not make if you encountered such an alien. Like if that alien walked up to you and it has some appendage sticking out in front of it, don't grab it and shake it. You don't know what part of the alien anatomy that is. - It's funny you just said that. - Okay, and maybe, go ahead and show the man. It's crazy what you just said. - Oh, okay. - You are welcome to shake my appendage. - Now, in this case, it did pay off to shake it, but it's still good advice. - Why would we came here? - I'm saying you just don't know. So it's advice like that and just to bring the dialogue and the conversation into the realm of physics rather than people's speculations. And so that's that. But Lost in Space is like a compendium of 5,000 facts about the universe that you just pick up, go to any page and read any fact. And my goal is you'll be so absorbed, you can't then put the book down. - Yeah. - And the book was published by National Geographic. So it's just a gorgeous book. You just, you have to leave it out for everybody to see. - Let me take it a while. We're shooting, I don't even tell. You, I can't wait to take a shoot just yet about it. (laughs) So I don't think they call them toilet books. - They call 'em coffee table. - But you know, you gotta be a little classy about it. - Yeah, that's a timeline. I great to take a shit with. That's, you know, I did not occur to me. - I have a coffee table in front of my toilet. - I'll tell you another great book to give. - There you go. - So in Lost in Space and it's a perfect companion to another book called Wet Goddess. You know what that is? - Yeah. - You'll never guess what it is. - No. - It's a book. - I don't know what it is. - It's a geographical novel about a guy who used to bang a dolphin in the '70s. And you know, so it's a little bit true. - John Lilly. - No, a different guy. And he used to go to a water park called Florida Land. And swim with the dolphins and one thing I do another. The dolphin came onto him is how he tells it. And yeah, there you go. - In New York, when you're swimming with the fishes, that means something different. Just go ahead. - Yeah, well, I mean, who would outside of mythology would have carried on like this? Now it is called Florida Land. I would expect to be able to bang a dolphin in a Florida Land. - Neil Dolphins, is he right in assuming dolphins are sexual creatures? - I mean, look at that, that is. - Well, they're mammals. - Yeah. - So they're mouse. So we would understand more about their sexuality than snakes or ants. I mean, you know, in terms of their reproductive elements, they're mammals. And the mommy dolphin has birth. And makes milk, right? So that's all familiar. But it's just odd. Could someone be so bad at meeting the opposite sex, that they have to go into the ocean and find sex there? That's just kind of weird. - Well, no offense, you're making a huge assumption here. My guess is he was having so much sex with humans. He was sick of it. And he's like, "I'm going in -- - That was Dolphins dolphin. You're thinking of the other dolphin." - No, I'm saying the man who made love to Dolphins. - Oh, yeah, no, yeah. - Neil is saying, perhaps he's not making love to him. - I'm saying, no, he had banged so much. He's like, "Look at him, he's a handsome guy." - Are you saying it's a Charlie Sheeniface? - I'm saying he went into the sea. And also, don't you think, like, and I, you know, I'm sorry for being vulgar. This is his fault. I'm usually very academic. Don't you think that would be considered an actual scientific exploration of Dolphins to go into the sea and make love to them? - No. What would be interesting is we've tried to mix sperm and egg from different species. And generally, that fails, generally. Unless you're a species adjacent like a horse and a donkey. There's species adjacent, and they'll produce a mule, for example. A lion and a tiger will produce a liger. All right, depending on who's male and who's female. - Yeah, we got up the sunstone if you want to do an unnatural. We've covered this many times. - I don't know. - Oh, I don't know how to delete a vacay, et cetera. - Oh shit, you just say it was a novel, right? So. - Yeah, it's not just some boring Dolphin fucking book. Like, he spices it up. And his main, I don't want to call it the moral of the story, but the biggest main point is that these parks are not a humane way to keep a dolphin, which I think we all could agree with that, you know? For one thing, people could come in and fuck a dolphin. - And by the way, you said he was handsome. It's not clear whether the dolphin agrees with you. - That is a great point, but I guess. - I'm carried on a nine month relationship. - Yeah, it's the grossest amount of time for you. - It comes up with alien. It comes up with aliens. Aliens will come. Now, holding aside ET, who I guess was cute, but still kind of ugly in my book. And holding aside the grays, which have big eyes and big all heads. If you look at alien and predator who are both aliens, they're both extraordinarily ugly, like by design. And of course, they wouldn't be ugly to their own loved ones. So, beauties and they'd be either be holder. And alien coming to earth, I thought this through. They would see, holding aside whether or not we would just be hideously ugly to them, just out of the box, they would see how much effort we put into changing our looks. - Right. - Just straight hair, you curl it. If you're a curly hair, you straighten it. Here's too short, you wear a wig. Your eyelashes aren't big enough, you make 'em longer. Your boobs aren't big enough, you surgically enhance them. Your muscles aren't big enough, you go to the gym. Both sexes invest heavily in changing what you look like. - Yeah, looks maximum. - From what you would otherwise believe. - For many times, we're both looks maximum. - Yes. - Yeah, yeah. And so, to alien would surely conclude that we think that we are hopelessly ugly to one another. - That's sweet. - Okay. Why do they keep fucking us like we're helpless dolphins at a Florida land park? (laughing) - Oh, they think we're ugly, well. I think they're negging us because they sure do harvest a lot of seed. - Okay, however, the softer version of that is all these reports that the aliens came and, you know, Analy probed you, right? Let's call it what it is, let's call it what it is. I mean, technically, that's what it is. But think about it. Report or report or we can get it. You wouldn't call it probing. Think about how big your ego must be to think that an alien, a space alien would cross the galaxy and then be interested in your butthole. That's a great point. And that's why I say they come from here and they're not from the galaxy. Because why would you go cross the galaxy with butthole? We got butthole at home. I know people who would cross a galaxy for butthole. I mean, that is a slogan that's pretty good for like an only. Yeah. There are people who would do that. I mean, I don't know that the aliens are banging us down for sexual reasons. In all seriousness. Well, I mean, the law of this goes back into, not only all this sci-fi, but all the religions of, for some reason, there's like these, I guess you call them across between bestiality and PDF files if they're that much older than us and they've got to come feel us up. But it's in everything. But what you're thinking of is, you're thinking of the era of the incubus and the succubus. Do you know about those? Oh, yeah. Yes. If you had, if you were male and you had, you know, erotic dreams and this would be embarrassing. So you would offload the blame and say a succubus came which is like a female demon who then aroused you in your sleep. And then, if a woman had such dreams, their female equivalent, then that would be an incubus. And so that was sort of religion's way to handle, I think it's specifically Catholicism, way to handle those nighttime experiences. And then in the era of aliens, you know, ever since Roswell, like people talk about aliens, the, when you have sexual experiences at night, then people just say it's aliens. Neil, what? It has more truth. One thing you and I have in common, we both went to Harvard. We're both renowned as some of the greatest scientific minds on the planet today and kind of translators for science for people to understand it. Science communicator. Thank you. That's what I'm called. This man, on the other hand, is essentially a witch burner. He believes in demons, devils. He believes in all kinds of, what I would call various forms of misinformation, which he happily spreads on the internet to his maniac fans. You and I are in a kind of battle against people like this. Well, I'm a professor. Do you worry that all the work of the great scientist eventually is going out the window and that we are going to return back to the time when people believe they were getting banged down by succubi when they're having wet dreams? Did the plural correct correctly? The succubi? That's great. So, if you're selling, I'll stop you. I'm bought. (Laughter) I have to see. (Laughter) Let's see. We live in a free country. Thank you. We live in a free country, so I'm not going to run around and tell you what you should or should not think. That's all on the floor. That's not living in a free country. What I will do instead is give you the consequences of what happens if you have all of these thoughts that are pseudo-scientific or even anti-scientific. Modern state of vision. And if you then. And then if you rise to power. Yes. If you rise to power over laws and legislation in this state of ignorance, then that's the unraveling of an informed democracy. It's not the end of the world. It's the end of your country. And that other countries will rise up. And we will wonder why they have all the wealth, the health and security. And we don't. Thank you. Yeah, that's what I've been telling him for a while. He's going to cause the entire United States to collapse from talking about demons and such. Well, because you like to put everything on your hands. Yes, United States. If you're trying to rise up, then you're able to rise up in Canada and Australia. Not yet. And they'll look at it. They'll look at it from their rear view mirror. But for real, don't you think that there's a possibility? I mean, sometimes when I see people like you out there, you know, taking stoners like us. I've always loved what you do because you do remind me of the person when you get too high who talks you down. You know, when you're in the car, you start thinking you're being monitored by the CIA. And someone is like, dude, that's not happening. And it's great. It's a service. But talk you off the ledge. Okay. Talk a lot of us off the ledge. But don't you think that there's a very real possibility? Not like, I'm not even talking like by country. I'm saying on a planetary level. Thanks to COVID. Thanks to the pandemic. Thanks to the growing realization that whether or not there's UAPs or aliens, there is massive parts of every government of the world that suppress scientific information. People don't trust you guys as much anymore. People don't believe in you as much as they used to. And don't you feel like there's a post-science world where we. Science doesn't suppress information. We get peer-reviewed and it gets published. That is what happens. Follow-up question. The only thing to get suppressed would be if it was top secret research. Okay. That would get suppressed because it's top secret. But most research is not there. We've heard a lot of talk about disclosure. Do you think we will ever get disclosure of what exactly is a woman? 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Yeah it's a neutrino is a particle that was predicted as a product of an experiment that was conducted I think back as early as the 1930s and would ultimately be detected it's hardly interacts with other particles which makes it hard to detect to detect something is to interact with it and it's the product of many nuclear reactions and the sun especially is creating most of the neutrinos that are passing through your body right now trillions per second are passing through your body right now from the sun it's a subatomic particle it's a fundamental particle of the universe. I have a question okay so and I don't know if this was like a thing somewhere it was like a clickbait science because I will follow all that shit but was there some talk of neutrinos because there's some neutrinos come out of an article which why we have that ascube detector and um no they're not coming out of an article they have a question is that not true? No there's nothing there's nothing wrong about a direction when with where neutrinos are concerned neutrinos pass through you know a light year of lead before it would be absorbed so this is not so I might be a little bit rephrase it because I could be saying it very poorly. I remember watching a long time ago about and this is before in a UAP shit or anything was like a you know this like pre-pandemic probably and they're talking about neutrinos about how they pass through anything and and they said they were setting up the ascube neutrinos detector because it was strange I guess the source of where they thought they were coming from. Does that sound like anything near correct or do you know what I'm talking about? We expect most to be coming from the sun and if we don't measure that then that there's some explaining to do because the sun is the nearest source of neutrinos. The sun's core as it generates energy so when you say the wrong direction coming from that from the space earth but from out that point in Antarctica I they there was a sort they couldn't tell. Yeah I'm familiar with that. Oh because that's why I thought if that's a result I'm unfamiliar with it. I can just tell you that your detector would in principle detect neutrinos coming from any direction right from below above and yeah well I think it's a direct energy weapon as well. Okay Duncan you wanted to ask. Well it can't it just it can't be a direct energy weapon if you don't absorb the particle. It can only work as direct energy if the target absorbs the energy you're handing. That's what I've been telling you I've been telling him that over and over. Okay he did say that but Mr. Tyson let's go over point of a direct energy weapon it gets absorbed. I thought ELF waves use ELF waves to not only cause all kinds of crazy effects. There's a whole government paper about it from the great general. Well what you can do is if you know the frequency that the frequencies of the circuits and of the communication that a satellite is using. If you know that in advance then you go in and flood it with that same frequency and then they can't communicate. It's all just normal. I don't have any right? So in that way you're disrupting its function. You're not destroying it. Mr. Tyson I have a question it's a more of a thought experiment. If you became privy to information you know we I think God disclosure was all about this or if you became privy to information that you that you knew was true but that you knew that if the majority of people found out this information even though if it was something that was groundbreaking would transform our understanding of physics and science but it would disrupt the global economies. Would you withhold that information or would you? If the information was top secret and I'm a government official I'm not disclosing it because it's top secret. I'm a scientist. Yeah. Me if I'm if it's disclosed to me under top secret circumstances then I'm beholden to that classification of a secret. As a scientist if I discover something the alien communications whatever and I'm not part of a top secret program I will disclose that immediately. Don't you think people know that they think people like like all the great scientists if they found out that just because some like state entity military dudes decided this was top secret that is no reason to withhold scientific information from the rest of the planet. Don't you think there's something immoral and ethical? You're mixing two things there. First I agree with you but you're mixing two things. One of them is am I participating in a top secret program typically with a military or military intelligence and some information arises within that then I'm beholden to the top secret. How do we come up with top secret? I'm sorry to cut you off but to me there's something. National Security. It's national security. It's but you national security. It's just by the way everybody get don't from remember to get your boosters. It's COVID season. Sorry. Go ahead. I've just got my well the viewers. But don't you think let the man give me some merchandise. Go ahead. Sorry about that guys. Go to Pfizer dot org. And scientists I make a discovery. You you end up knowing the next day. I'll call the media call the news of course. But we're talking about like you know if we're talking about the military top secret we're talking about people who blow up children. Why are we letting them determine how we release information to the public? Why are we letting military information that comes out in their own in their own studies? That's that's what top secret me. I just always thought everyone gets access. No no science is is a public activity that happens typically in universities at least for now unless we lose more of scientists out of universities because the funding is dried up and we lose them to Canada or China or Europe or South America. So let's assume. But the military. The military. We're using scientists from all branches of the U.S. government. Okay. So so scientists we function in the public sphere. Our journals are publicly available in the old days that would just be public printed nowadays it's online. And so yeah you would know the next day. If if I get signals from space is it hey we're over here look here every one of my colleagues will know that within 24 hours. Hey I have by the way that I feel like I was back back in summer blockbuster time watching Barbonheimer watching the two you go ahead just now. Hi Barbonheimer by the way. Did you bought. Yeah. A lot of people do the bar. Same day. Same day. You see my first and then Barbie. Second. Yeah. Barbonheimer. You're in global you in Barbonheimer. It was like a theater was bad. Anyway. In your way. But you know why that was a thing? There's a reason for it because the because both those movies which can't be more opposite. Yeah. Of two movies ever made. We're both released on the same day. Yeah. Well that's some kind of ritual magic. That was born the the the Barbonheimer. Yeah of course. The masculine and feminine principle being projected out. It's the whole thing. I want to know though because they take me to your leader book. What is the scenario you would think of alien life? Because I was watching you talk to that guy that looks like a Batman villain from NASA with Chuck on some clip. And that got bugged. We got the glasses big glasses. And he was Batman. Yeah. He looks like the guy that found out who Batman really is in the comic region. So look. Why would I expect them to be honest about contacting any alien life? Like the the scenario of tape me too. Why would you expect them to not be honest? Well because they lie about everything else. Well for starters. Because well for starters they've lied about everything else. It doesn't lie. Excuse me. NASA doesn't lie about anything. They're filled with scientists who do research and all that information is public as it happens. Well it's hard to find shit on the premise. You know Kurt Davis the Noxie. Hold on. Hold on. George NASA. They don't put him up there. Hold on. To start with that premise is a complete false grounding of all subsequent thoughts and statements you're making. Oh you just got Tyson motherfucker. That's some clarifications. Specifically about NASA or institutions in general. Either both. Thank you. NASA doesn't remember. Are you wait. So so you feel like they've been doing a great job. These last 10 years everybody else is just being a bit angry baby about it. So you don't think this is doing a better job but any other federal agency. Okay well that yeah. That's it. Excuse me. NASA just went around the moon. Okay. Drop off the Epstein files so they can't be released. Yeah no I look at that moon mission. Epstein files is supposed to come out. Oh fake binder. Hey we went around the moon and the rest of the war coming out. Am I not to deduce that there is a pile. I got to make a scientific graph of the amount of Epstein files stacked on the website. Epstein files on the park right of the moon. (upbeat music) - The fact that they put out an Epstein file, which is the law. - Try to screenplay with that. - Well, but I can't, they would all be blacked out. They released, you know, when they released a file, never mind, 'cause by the way, the COVID, obviously smashing success, no problems there. Well, who would say otherwise? But when they released binders, where they blacked out every single fucking page, like you could-- - I thought we were talking about NASA. - Well, not the FBI. - I don't know about all the institutions. - I'm not talking about NASA. - Well, an absolute connection to NASA and to all MIT. - Okay, I'm an academic, yeah. - I'm an academic. - I'm in the Epstein file, by the way. - I would speak broadly for academic institutions and specifically for NASA. They are the least duplicitous, anything you will ever encounter in this world. It's how we can land rovers with helicopters on Mars. It's how we can go to asteroids and bring back samples from those asteroids. It's how we know to the second, when you're about to experience a total solar eclipse. To turn around and say, I don't trust NASA, but get your head out of your ass. And look at what NASA actually does. - Get it out of your ass! - You know, you changed ever since you got that suit and that helmet. - Well, can I ask a scientific question? - Since you got your braces off, you act different now. - Mr. Tyson, you and I are in complete agreement here. We're both scientists and we both have. - It's awkward that you keep playing with yourself. - I know, I saw that as well. - Okay, you're assuming this is my penis. You see. - This is my thinking stick. - I didn't say what organ it was. I just said you're playing with it. - I'm playing with my thinking stick and it helps me act. - The president, yes, it's a form of sigh. - But the president puts it in his mouth and you transmit images. - To get back to the NASA conversation. And I couldn't agree with it more. NASA has never did. - Well, the public face, but there's a military face of everything. - But don't you think it is slightly odd that they lost the moon landing footage? - I don't know what you're talking about. - NASA lost the moon landing footage. It was like, they threw it away. We can't find the original moon landing footage. I'm surprised you don't know that. - By the way, there's a lot of stuff from that era that you have to remember after 1972, when the Russians were not going to the moon, we lost all interest in going to the moon 'cause we only went to beat the Russians. And so meanwhile we have other problems at hand, like the Vietnam War, which is about to come to an end, not gracefully at that, and the Cold War continuing, and nobody's thinking about the moon anymore. So, you say the moon landing, we've landed on the moon nine, we've gone to the moon nine times, okay? And landed on it six times. And you say, the footage is missing. - Yeah, it was. - No, it's not. - Okay. - It makes sense. - Guys, can you pull it? - It might be some that's missing. - Oh, which one's missing. - What other? - Can you pull it off the moon landing footage please? - Pause, pause. Whatever it is you say we're missing, I wanna say what we have. We have images, we have rover images. We have photos of the entire landscape. We have lunar samples brought back that's in every important way. - Can we see them? - We're not having this conversation. - We have the original high resolution. - There's no conversation. - The original high resolution backup tapes of the Apollo 11 slow scan television transmission were erased and reused. I just, listen, I don't know why you're, I didn't get, I'm the eighties. - I'm sure the moon, I'm sure we went to the moon. I mean, nothing seems weird about that footage at all. It seems totally real, but I'm just, how in terms of reused, reused, reused, if that's true. - This isn't like your kids at a skating party. - Listen, this is why, I'm not, I don't even know how you get about this people who think there's no moon landing, but here's why 100% believe we went to the moon. Number one, Duncan. - Why? - They put a blue mess on it and there's a flag up there. And if you do that, I don't think, a ritual like that you're not allowed to fake. Did you see what I'm saying? - Listen, I don't, I'm not even sure there is a moon. - Did you get your booster not? - Yeah, I got my booster this morning. - Yep, why aren't you sure there's a moon? - Why? - No, some, Oh, and Benjamin's a moon denial, did you know that? - No, he is not for real. - Yeah, or you don't think we landed? He'll do you one better. - You don't move, he's a moon, didn't I? - Mr. Bull, I think that's where it goes. - Yeah, yeah, so in the end of the day, it comes down to how much time do you want to invest in people who think this way? - Well, I was unlocked, and I'm an educator, and I have a certain assumption that's not always true, which is the person who thinks in a particular way is interested in learning how they might be wrong. - Yes. - Rather than in supporting what they think is true no matter what. - Yes. - Those folks who include everyone who we might categorize as a conspiracy theorist are not there to learn. - Professor, I don't have, I've run out of patience for them. - Yes. - I can't teach people who want to learn what is objectively true about this world. And I can say, we live in a free country, I'm not gonna hit them over the head, think what you want, okay? The people who are certain that that Jesus is the son of the creator of the universe, and the creator of the universe impregnated a Jewish lady in the Middle East, and killed his son, and that he rose from the dead. There are people certain of that. I'm not gonna hit him over the head and say that might not necessarily be true. This country has protected belief systems, especially religious ones. I'm not gonna hit you over the head. - But the moment you become head of NASA or control laws or legislation, then we got, then that's the end of the country, end of the informed democracy. - We do not have an informed democracy, that's crazy talk. We forgot if women have pushed these or cocks for about 12 years, this is not informed democracy, it's actually a nonsense place. We're basically a podcast, I would say more than country, at this point, just the Ukraine war alone before Dumb Dumb got replaced by a new fucking Shabbos-Goy, it's been one steady stream of disasters. I mean, how do you go to church, you got my (beep) in again, that's as I guess my question. I went to, I grew up in a doomsday cult, okay? Jehovah witnesses, and do you know they embarrassingly predicted the end of the world in '77? Not as so embarrassing, and it did not end. - Wait, wait, so there's a wiki page of all previous predictions of the end of the world, and it goes page after page after page after page. Cults only really work if they predict the end of the world in the lifetime of the person who's head of the cult. Hardly ever do they say the world will end in 250 years. They can say the world will end in three years, in five years when the comet comes, when I get the next year. - That's why I bring it up, because that embarrassing doomsday cult shit, by my count, there are about 15 times less than science told me the world was ending. Based on climate or the coral reefs, times as an agnostic who used to be religious, going to bed afraid, and then finding out they were bullshitting me, the Al Gore predictions, it's embarrassingly worse than a doomsday cult I was in. The amount of times it told me the world was ending. Then I find that a series of creepy oligarchs, really it depends on what they wanna pay for it, don't it? What science will get? - Hold on, it depends what you mean by the world is ending. I don't know. - You've seen the more you've been on it. - Hold on, if there's something specific about the end of the world predictions that you want to reference in that phrase. - I will tell you, I will tell you that extreme weather in this world has gotten worse, and talk to the people who are victims of that extreme weather and ask them is the world ending, okay? And they will give you a very different answer from the answer you just gave right now. These are people who are subjected to floods, we just had something terrible in Nepal, when an entire glacier drops out with the bottom drops out underneath it. Yep, synonyms, hurricanes, this sort of thing. What I'm saying is that as the climate changes, extreme weather becomes the new normal. And what you want to call the end of the world, now we'll still be here long after climate change, but the world will look really different. Do you realize if we melt the ice caps from Antarctica and Greenland, which are the two remaining large land-based ice reservoirs, the sea level will rise to that of the Statue of Liberty's left elbow. This is the arm holding the document, not her torch. That would bury every coastal city, which are the most important cities of the world, 'cause where were cities put, they were put on the water's edge for commerce, for transportation, for irrigation. Mr. Tyson, the great dragon shall rise up. I've heard it in the world, but the end of civilization as we know it. Mr. Tyson, what you just described is what people who believe that human beings have been around much longer, that something happened during the lesser dreas period, where there was a rise in sea level theoretically, anthropologically, this is what led to a lot of the flood myths that show up in every culture, and when I saw the insane footage from Nepal, insane, terrifying, truly, like biblical, I've never seen anything like that, and I love watching tsunami videos. I watch them with my kids before we go to bed. Don't, do you? [BLANK_AUDIO] But don't you think that, to me, that does point towards this possibility that from time to time, things happen in the world that could theoretically completely erase the hard drive of civilization, and maybe humans have been around much, much longer than we think. Now, you need an asteroid for that or some devastating virus to take us all out. Climate change will just redraw the maps of the world. That's what will survive it, but in a very different configuration. No, no, you don't you think that's already happened. The map has been redrawn. Something happened that shows up in a lot of people. If it's not a matter of whether we've ever had floods, that's not the issue here. It's what used to be the hundred-year flood is now the 10-year flood. What used to be the 10-year locust is the three-year locust. Whatever, pick a disaster. The frequency with which it arrives is increasing. Okay, here's my question, and maybe, and I am open to changing my mind. I don't want to believe scary things. I read something, thank you. I read something about the theory is that what do you call the magnetic sphere on the sun, the heliosphere, pushes solar dust away, and that maybe we were wrong about that. The sun is accumulating solar dust, meaning that from time to time it gets too hot. It spits out a solar flare causing a cyclical reset of civilizations that every X amount of years, the sun gets enough of this dust on its surface, burps out some kind of micranova, eradicate civilization, and this increase in disasters, though some of it is related to CO2 in the air, is also related to the fact that the sun. We would see this in the fossil record if it was real and significant. Humans are not the most susceptible life form to assaults on the environment. There are others like frogs I'm told from my herpetology colleagues are quite the measure of whether an environment has shifted for their survival or not. I don't think we are the best, the most potent indicator of this point is that there are extinction episodes in the fossil record. Some were quite nervous, like the one that took out the dinosaurs. There's another one half a billion years ago, the Permian Triassic extinction episode, where 90% of life on Earth went extinct. Oh my gosh, the Earth was nearly sterilized. So yeah, these episodes happen naturally for sure, but over time scales much longer than what we are seeing by the climate wreaking havoc upon our civilization. I have a hypothetical question. What's that telescope? Is it the web, the new one? James Webb, you know, when the found galaxies shouldn't have formed yet, but I don't know what that break would you say? First the first, it feels like a couple of years ago. Yeah, okay. So hypothetically, if they found that, then they compartmentalize that information for quite some time before we got to where we heard about it. What would be the reason they would need to compartmentalize learning that knowledge, if they it wasn't compartmentalized. Yeah, but why would you compartmentalize it? They didn't. So why we even have this conversation? It was published in a paper, but it was published in a paper. Go look it up. It was publicly available. The real question is whether the press figured out that would make an interesting clickbait and when they did, and you know how they did, how they did it, they said, this might mean we have to rethink the big bang, and all the scientists will have to go back to the drawing board. That always makes excellent clickbait. Well, I thought it that it could possibly imply the universe being much older than they thought was where I thought the big. No, it's the most likely explanation for very good reasons I'm saying this is that we don't really understand how galaxies form. We have to refine that significantly. James Webb Space Telescope was conceived for just that purpose to look to the early universe to help us understand how galaxies are born. And now we see red blooded galaxies too early in the universe that don't belong there. And are we shocked? Is the telescope is doing exactly what it's supposed to do? No, I'm not shocked by that at all. What I would have expected is you'd see a lot of new shit you didn't see. How do you think those galaxies are forming that fast? I don't know. I don't know. What we begin to kind of is what I imagine is a frontier. Yeah, that's pretty interesting. Maybe the big bang was just sort of a big explosion and there was stuff before it. Well, okay, since everything is so militarized though, there's what I'm saying. What do you mean militarized? Well, you know, there's nothing I said that's militarized. You think that most of space, I know they're not supposed to militarize it, but they did. I just saw the Jerusalem post posted about literally they said there's Jewish peace leasers they're going to have. And it's real. And by Marjorie Taylor Green never said that, but they are saying that now. Space. So if they have it, we have. Right. Low Earth orbit. That's what you're referring to. They said they have satellites. You know, look, this all in the press. Another institution is a military theater of operations. Yeah, primarily for reconnaissance. Offensive weapons are not as effective in orbit as they would be on the ground. Unless you just want to destroy other satellites with your satellite weaponry. But you can destroy you can destroy a satellite in orbit within eight minutes. Right. That's why you're saying a kinetic kill from Earth source. I'm dying to know this. Or rods from God, even viable or not, because they keep popping up like a thing. I remember watching this on Discovery Channel. The rods from God. Then. I don't know. Very task him or somebody was. Why they suck. But if it's what I think you're talking about. I don't know. You don't talk about where they shoot a rod. High Earth orbit. And it picks up speed. Like. So the point of a rod. The rod is remarkable when you think about it. Because if a high speed rod. So watch this. If you fire a bullet and then the bullet. Let's say a dense. Some armor. Okay. Then you got to fire another bullet below a little further in the dent. But that second bullet might not hit me in the exact same spot. Now watch what happens. If the rod is moving faster than the speed of sound in the rock itself. Then the first part of the rod, the size of a bullet will make its indent. The second bullet size part of the rod. Does not know yet that the first part of the rod has hit its target. Because it hasn't been communicated to it yet. Because the rod is going faster than the speed of sound inside the rod. So the next bit of the rod is a fresh bullet. Going exactly the same speed as the first one. Going into exactly the same hole. And you have a long rod. That rod will get through practically anything for those reasons. If the rod is traveling faster than the slower than the speed of sound. Then the first bit of it. We'll communicate to the rest of the rod that there's a slowdown in progress. And then the rod will bend or it'll distort or whatever. But a high speed rod. Yes. Well, I thought the problem was deadly weapons. Some of the most deadly weapons we've come up with. And there's not even any exposure. Is it an issue though? I mean, not that. I mean, yeah, that's why you'd want to make that. Well, I thought the whole problem was the Earth's spinning. It's kind of also why spears work. It's kind of also why spears work or a bow and arrow. Okay, let me think about it. An arrow, if you fired into a tree, it'll go an inch into the tree. Well, to be spinning it however many miles an hour like the Earth, that's what I'm saying the problem would be is trying to the targeting of that. Do you know what I mean? Or do you think that's why targeting surface is more reliable than trying to wait for something to come in view and then hit it for more of it. So orbit is the whole the whole idea that the orbit is the future of space wars. Yes, for reconnaissance, but for the rest of that, it's not so much. Mr. Tyson, what do you think about the what appears to be like spates of earthquakes? Massive earthquakes seem to be happening with greater frequency. Like, do you know what I'm saying? I haven't seen that. We are now measuring the existence of earthquakes with higher precision than ever before. And in my museum, the American Museum of Natural History, we have a map of the world that is actively connected to the earthquake central, whatever they call it. And you can see during the day where places have earthquakes. Most earthquakes are obviously very low intensity. And below a certain intensity, you won't even notice it even if you're walking within it up to like level three or so. The higher level earthquakes, you'll feel a shaken bake. The worst of them will break down buildings, yes. I don't know that the earthquake rate is higher than average. I mean, we just seems like we had a bunch back to back. I know that doesn't mean it's higher than average. But when that happens, you know, we're both scientists. I'm sick of talking to him. I'm going to I'm going to cancel this. You're pushing the book of revelations now. But don't you, you know, you have to you have to you have to understand statistics in order to properly interpret. when you have several earthquakes back to back. Because if earthquakes are random, then you'd expect occasionally some of them to happen in sequence. And if they're random, it doesn't mean they're always equally spaced. In fact, if they were equally spaced, they would not be ranked. >> Okay, let me ask the better question. >> There's a better question. I'm going to just listen things that are happening. We've got unregulated AI that is already like figuring out ways to build new forms of life, bacteria, disease, bio-eapons. We've got massive amount of satellites in low Earth orbit. Just a few of them blow up, it could theoretically create a chain reaction. It causes satellites to rain from the sky. >> It's called a Kessler effect. >> Thank you. >> We've got an amazing safe vaccine. >> The Kessler effect, we have, people are beginning to gain, have access to all kinds of technologies that formerly only like state entities. The military had, we have all of these mixed in with fossil fuel emissions and what you just mentioned, mixed in with a growing mistrust of science in general. My question is, how does the world not end in the next five years, based on all these things? >> No, it's the United States ends and other countries continue who do not have a mistrust in science. That's all, it's that simple. >> We just fade, the Roman Empire faded, other countries rose up. No one is talking about Rome today as a leader in anything, other than tourism. And visits to the Vatican. >> No, we just took over Lake Ontario, my friend, it's called Lake America. >> Lake America, yeah. >> I don't know, it sounds like an empire on the ups, yeah. >> If that's the greatest expression of our power, we're in trouble. >> A lot of stuff is called America now, that wasn't. >> So that's good, right, you think that's good. And the third temple is about to be built. Now the Mishiaq can come. >> I'm saying. >> And read by Shneerskin, can we agree on that? >> If you're not leading the world in science, if you're not leading the world in science, but you have control over map makers, and you force them to, and that, and you make you feel good. All right, I mean. >> Well, what if I'm setting up a surveillance state that's way more intense than anything China has. But without the- >> You already have a surveillance state. >> Yeah, way worse than China. >> It's called everyone's street cameras. >> Yeah, like, we already lost, dude. >> If the KGB had, in their day, what we have today, oh my gosh. >> Well, that's what I'm saying, how are you supposed to trust any of these institutions? Aside from the amazing great, no problem job they did on COVID, and I'll give them that one. >> Yeah. >> Score one for the institutions, great job with that. >> Great work with that. >> But with other regards, such as- >> Oh, institutions, I'm saying, I represent an academic institution and NASA. >> You're putting what I just described in the same pot as other institutions that have famously messed up. And so by doing that, you're not allowing there to be nuance between some agencies and institutions and others. If you want to lump them all together, that's lazy thinking. >> Well, then, there's only one way I would lump them all together, and this is the thing I've noticed over- >> You just did lump them all together. >> I'm only in this specific way. Number one, there's knee-jerk defense of the institution at all costs, almost like a Catholic church cover-up of motion. Not quite that degree, obviously, but very close to it. There's a compartmentalization- >> I'm academics doing research in universities. They're independent of each other. They publish in journals, and that's what I'm talking about when science is being removed from the country- >> So we just went to University of Texas to go watch your best friend Eric Weinstein. You want to talk about me, like I'm some conspiracy guy. His bowel, Eric Weinstein, to give a talk about why they should be able to talk about other things besides their majors. >> Right. >> Then we went to look at plasma stuff with those guys from school. Every question I had that wasn't specifically their department. They're like the fear of answering a thing that's not in your specific lane. And it's all has to do with what I got here, I got to get paid somehow, and you got to do this, this, and this. So it's very clear there's financial incentives. >> Maybe it's because they don't have the expertise to justify speaking with expertise outside of their expertise. >> But we went into our own based on what you're saying. We invaded Iraq. >> What's that? >> Yeah, we invaded Iraq with evidence that let's face it, wasn't the best. We do mass murder with way less evidence. >> I just think is what I just think. >> You have to admit that because we invaded Iraq without evidence, all science is wrong. Why can't you just say that? >> No, I said, well, I mean, I think that's a good point, but that's not what I'm saying. >> Yeah, that's fair. >> That's a fair point, but that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is the compartmentalization and the other feeling we had Dan from the dunking on, because people come on the show and try to flint Dibblas. >> Yeah, they do. >> You don't come on here in Dibblas. >> No one has, and they never will. >> Well, I don't ask a new word for me. Flint Dibbl, what does that mean? >> People somehow come on the show and they dare suggest that some of our theories are incorrect, and it doesn't work out. >> And where's the Graham's looking down at us from heaven right now, and he's like, I don't like what I see. >> No doubt on this press tour. You're thinking to yourself, wow, this is going to be rough for my career. These guys really took me out. >> Well, because all the UAP, I keep saying WAPs, that's a different thing. But the new UAP evidence that they always, well, there's no evidence. A guy, like an autistic guy, heard a story. But these are massive hearings to hear about this. Why does it, in your estimation, do they put this stuff out there to this degree? Because there's no, you never get to pay off, you get more campfire. >> Yeah, because the public wants it. >> No, but why is the government doing that to us? Why would they be pushing that shit to us? >> Yeah, why? Because the government ostensibly represents the electorate. >> We want health care, they're giving us that. >> I know, but that because disclosing what evidence they have for UAPs that they've seen is much less costly than health care. So they could do this in a bipartisan way, which they did. >> That's right. >> Responsive. >> They did, didn't they? >> Not that you asked. >> Yeah, I was asking, so I'm glad you discern that from what I was jabbering at you. >> Yeah, yeah, my response to it is, now it's no longer just the farmer in the back 40 saying something showed up, or the revelers at 2 a.m. and the bar closed. These are pedigree people, especially coming off the heels of the documentary disclosure day. I think it was, is that right? >> No, disclosure. >> The Spielberg movie? >> No, no, no, no, no. And then there's that other- >> Yeah, with such reliable people as James Clapper and John Price. >> They each had the word disclosure in it. But anyway, the point is people now coming forth, they're all pedigree, and some say that they've encountered the aliens themselves rather than just lights in the sky. So at this point, okay, is it too much to ask for them to bring out the alien? >> Right. >> I think at this point, just bring it out. And then we don't have to debate whether your fudgy lights represent anything- >> That's a good point, just bring it out, okay. >> And in fact, in the Spielberg movie- >> It didn't bring it out. >> It didn't bring it out too much. Yes, he did, hold on. >> Well, he did. >> Did we see the same movie? They have just closed the evidence, which were all the lights in the sky, and they even had some crashed alien footage and this sort of thing. Then they rolled out an actual alien. If you have the alien, I don't need to see your fuzzy lights over the back to the point. I don't need to see your fuzzy black and white video footage. You have the alien. So I don't think I'm asking too much to bring out the end. And until that happens, I don't see any good reason to have to believe in something that I have to believe in to be true. >> Yeah, no, well, unless it's some kind of control mechanism, I don't understand why- >> No, no, did I make myself clear? >> Yeah. >> If I'm going to make something true, I don't want to have to believe that it's true because I believe someone else believes it's true. >> Yeah, exactly, like the vaccines. >> We know they work because my ex-girlfriend who was injured by it is a liar. >> I'd fuck her and she deserves- >> Why did she lie about that all that? >> She deserves her Bell's palsy and I said don't report it bitch. >> You should- >> Cuz I'm sick of his informers. Okay, wait, could that mean that it's not up to them to reveal like why aren't they producing alien because maybe they're not, it's not up to the government? Why would the alien bother them? >> Yeah, it's fine, but whatever is your reason I'm not- you have not given me reason enough to think they're real until you- >> I'm with you on that. >> Yes, you're 100% like I say do believe it, do believe in elephants. That's not even a question because we've all seen elephants. >> Well, how have we done- >> There's only two dozen people if only two dozen people in the world had ever seen an elephant and they're called to testify and they've got to believe me that these two teeth sticking out that occur and they have ears the size of bedsheets and their nose is big and floppy and rubbery and they have feet the size of tree trunk. You're saying you guys are crazy, can you draw one and no one knows how to draw well so they'll draw something that looks completely alien and no one will believe them until they bring out the elephant and at that point no one asks you do believe in elephants. >> Well, right, I get that point what I'm saying is now that we've established that and I'm with you 100% on that now I have a little bit of a I guess an animosity that they keep you know the people that you have to pay your taxes to keep pushing this weird shit with no evidence like you started I'm starting to notice the kind of psychological emotion of it and I don't think I'm unique in that and I think that leads to a interesting phrasing there I like that so yeah they're teasing you in a way yeah but I don't work my nipples work the balls as one saying it's a that's TMI right there on what makes you let's have military contract it TMI they make fucking you gotta work the balls I only got a few more minutes here you've been great thank you so much I was told about a million books right now yes you did lost in space another great there's the alien book right take me to your leader then the loss of spaces just 5,000 facts if you want to bask in the universe with that that's in my bathroom naively true okay so you're living yeah I don't think living room one in the bathroom we have to keep saying that to the kids the whole episode of science felt on that yeah and he was in a bookstore and he went into the bathroom with him came out with a book and somehow they knew but he didn't know how they knew so George Constanter and mr. Tyson thank you so much for confirming that we didn't go to the moon that was Neil the grass Tyson everybody when the greatest living astronomers and I can't wait to read your book for real thank you well the book is go lost in space with Neil the grass and Lindsay next walk oh next is that yes she's my co-author on that yes oh yeah lost in space and then take me to your leader I actually want to read the other one now that I got to take me to your least is a much smaller book if that one you could read in one toilet sitting if you're constipated yeah we we take a lot I also I also now read a radio book if you're stuck in traffic it works great I have to do all audio now because my eyes don't work on me too well thanks for coming on the mystery boys good luck with your book and Godspeed that's crazy one thing I didn't expect was Neil the grass Tyson to admit we didn't go on the moon like I've always thought we did and you already said about immutable chromosomal characteristics to biological sex I can't believe he said that you don't call him a chromosomal it's the one thing he said that I disagree with yeah I'm like oh we've got to give him the award oh yeah dude did I could damn it God damn it well he's still kind of there and I'm sure he's gonna watch this interview you all would did a great what a great guest and I mean the guy we we grew up we gave him the tough questions yeah you can't say we didn't fucking bring it to Neil the grass Tyson and that's why he won't ever give this award the official mystery voice science of war from two scientists to another thank you for holding the line and we will see you in Valhalla baby expert to be all we're this to grasses for you thank you for service thank you for your service oh shit look man one thing I think but will you give Neil his award I feel so I feel like an asshole we gave him a tissue but that was nice of us but we didn't wait a handy thing all right one thing that I think is interesting one of the biggest interviews we ever got and I think he'll definitely be coming back on as a friend for wife we just made yeah he's gonna be I will see him Neil the grass Tyson's friend for life one thing on Neil the grass Tyson has been tweeting about for a while is the scientific truth that in a mirror you can only kiss yourself on the lips I'll just read a few of these shout out to my dog Chuck nice you can kiss yourself in the mirror but only on the lips just an FYI in a mirror you can only kiss yourself on the lips for narcissus only laws are a flexion required that if you kiss yourself in a mirror it will always be on the lips we what like I I mean I just hear helicopters and then a lot of stuff about kissing yourself in the mirror can't kiss yourself on the cheek you can only kiss yourself on the lips oh that's like spy coat yo that's like CIA shit dude he's he those are activation codes I think you'd agree with that now can we pull up the yeah we this inspired I called up my friend soul singer Devon galore and yeah you know Devon galore soul singer Devon galore yeah snow joke and I told him like can you write like a sweet song about not being able to kiss yourself in this he made this entire video for me it's incredible stop doing grandcast because we forgot all the best parts of the show to give to Neil by the way it was a pretty fucking good interview I gotta say the audio on I gotta say he brought it let's play it bro that looks a lot like me same I'm not trying to get burned up right now dude now yeah this is what we should have done to give him the fucking award dude like a movie star tragedy I can never kiss that you know I'm gonna read that I'm gonna get that book for my shitter I'm joking whether I'm not and I'll bet you Neil is gonna get wet goddess for his bathroom now I saw him right down the book I got it this is flop camera fully charred yeah from inside his house I know I feel safe yeah can we you can go and stop it I guess we should do the ad there's a 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him NASA conducted 150 launches of military missiles so don't fucking say NASA's got something bad because they got the finest engineering there is he was brought to the United States via Operation Paper Clip so the finest engineers on the planet German engineers nothing better look at that and look at that scar wait wait let's look at this bench look at that that's the first head of NASA that's a fencing scar hey kids want to worry about space I wish there was like a Mr. Wizard of Kurt Debus you know like a neighborhood kid comes in goes don't they he teaches him about rockets and fucking you know the drill yeah Kurt Debus like it's Kurt Davis but you can't pronounce V like Bajaina wait you say Florida man called why did you pull that up oh wait this is the guy who hold on leave this this guy was called ejaculating on the flock cameras how does he get up there he's registered as a sex offender not for this though well look at that's when he started shaving your head and you change your mind now will you get the call is a cop that um there's a man ejaculating on the flock cameras and then you have a mental picture in your head I mean do you think you probably like I know exactly just like that I know I'm reverse engineering this but I feel like if you asked me what he got caught doing I would say you're tough on a flock camera I mean I right yeah for sure that's definitely the look you just came on a man a man in a reverse Mohawk I mean and he's a vagrant dead and have to be not with the greats head of hair like that that's okay Andrew Wilson hair mom that's by choice a man like that could do anything he wanted especially if you can get up on top of a block camera what you're right because yeah first of all can you pull up a flock camera just if people see or nobody like it if he was going bald he couldn't have that hairstyle now that's the way so he's got a - You wanted that, you wanted that fucking inverse mohawk. Look at that. - And then he's got amazing tensile screen. - Think you're not getting up there, holding-- - He just clambered up the side of that, like a goddamn-- - King Kong style holding on and then jerking off onto the camera. Like, why is this guy waiting in the special? - That's not the camera. - Could be. - I mean, the damage is very specific looking, but-- - Could be. - But where was he caught? No, this is Oakland. - That guy's a Florida. - What do you want to picture of the come drenched flock camera? - Well, it go a long way towards building trust. I explain to Neil, I don't trust the government. - Yeah, well, I don't think he does either. - But like, NASA's good. The one that don't have any guns, and they're like posies. - No, I do want to say that. - You sure they stand up to the man all the time? - Well, I was disappointed when he told you that NASA's good and doesn't hide anything that you didn't just tap out, because he's a scientist. You're not. When a scientist says something, you're supposed to just agree with me. - Okay, first of all, two things you ought to know about me, and I've always made this clear. Me. - Yeah. - Jirpsin. - Kderpa, I don't know the difference. - Kderpa. - Jirpsin. - Yeah. I was so disappointed. - There's two things you gotta do. One, I'm a pre-trigger, okay? - Yeah. - I have pre-traumatic stress syndrome, and I am a pre-trigger. That means my default state is to be triggered. - Okay, okay. - Okay, okay. - I was doing everything I could to move it together. - You were pre-triggered. - Hey, where's my pre-trigger trauma community? - Yeah, yeah, I got you. - Where's the pre-trigger trauma's out there? - Yeah, I'm sorry, I called you out, man. I didn't know you had pre-triggered. - That's why I was given this degree. This is why you can trust academia, because if someone like me, a man that couldn't read until he was in his late 30s. - Yeah. - Okay, yeah. - Can you leave that subject making it up? - Honestly, not that good of a reader still. - That's okay. - If I'm being honest, that didn't stop me from being a fully accredited professor from Cambridge, from Cambridge, a motherfucking university. - Yeah, and so you're, I wanna read about your condition. The term living pre-triggered is a modern psychological and cultural slaying term. It describes a state of hyper-vigilance where a person is constantly anxious, defensive, and waiting for the next piece of bad news. - So I was just anxious and defensive the whole time. - Yeah, you were. - I was like, like, I don't like how he's smiling. Even though he didn't do anything wrong. - Nothing. - I'm already triggered before I got here. You understand my problem? - Yeah, I got it. - I got it. - I don't think going to space is gonna fix that. I didn't wanna say that. - I have that. - Jacques Primo Jacques Valle. I'm not a good reader, I think I said that. - It's called premature ejaculation. - What triggers the release of Percom? - Feet. - Okay. The body responds automatically. It's excited, builds up. Is that what causes Precom fee? - What? - Yeah. - He's talking about succabus and succabus. - Yeah, these are, yeah. You would say that this is something people invented. - You ever get attacked in the night by succabus? - Not enough time. - There's only one way to ward off succabus attack. Get rid of the supply for where she can get there. - Dude. - There ain't nothing to succabus. You gotta release before you get back. - Oh yeah, you should check that desolate battlefield with jizz rags on my floor, I guess. There ain't nothing to succabus here. - Here's an important question. Why doesn't my boyfriend produce any Precom? Take your shoes off. - You know, not. (laughing) Hey, pull up out of something to succubate. A succubate, pull up out of something to succubate. - I feel like Alice is also a dude. 'Cause I've never heard a girl concerned that there's not enough harm. To never. - Hey, I'm not seeing enough of a mess. - I don't go to the AI, it's not gonna help ya. But there's a whole thing about, yeah, succubus. 'Cause horny dudes know that they could summon a succubus to come back out. - They're using CE5 protocol. - Yeah, it gets you a succubus. That's not what I want though. That's the wrong summoning. Not daddy, I don't want that. - Well, it is a nice butter face. (laughing) Yeah, I don't want any of these. There you go, I would take the one holding the old man. - That looks hot. - Yeah, that's a buttery, that's a buttery, succubus of everything. - Help me. - Well, just don't look too much at the face. - Oh yeah. - And then the old man, hey, come on. I'm just an old man, minding my own business sleeping with a huge boner. I don't understand why they don't figure this into the possible alien contact. Look, what would happen if alien contact? - Well, let's say Nass, oh, do you like my hypothetical? - Yeah. - I loved it. My guess right now is he's typing to his publicist. Hey, give me on that show again, as soon as you can. - A lot of people are saying that. 100 Biden, I bet, after he saw a last one. - I would love to have another show. - Yeah, I'd party with that guy and it's fucking second dude. - Well, what was the other thing we were going to do on this episode? - Okay, let's see. Oh, the rare books. Oh, yeah, the throwing out the books. But wait, I have better, way better, stupid crap that we should have been looking for. So don't think, don't think that I don't, okay, wait. Do you think he got my reference to Jerp's and our derp? - No, I think he was too blown away by the other questions we had. I watched his whole, like-- - Those were, those were, honestly man, and I'm not trying to do my own horn. And you know I can do my own horn. - To your horn. - But that was one of the best. - I felt like almost like a choreographed ballet of perfect question and answer back and forth. - Yes. - You know? - Yeah. - It was worthy, three way, worthy adversary expert battle. - Bam, bam, bam. - It was incredible. He was in ontological shock. Like, for sure, by the way. - We can't add disclosure because that ontological shock he just experienced. He died from the ontological, ontological shock. - Right. - Of, you know? - Right. - Dude, you whip that dick out, honestly. - What? - This isn't a dick. That's the best part. - And that's the best part. - 'Cause I assumed it was, and then like, bam. That's it. So you, I don't even think you could pay to go to Andrew Wilson to big classes to learn that kind of skill. - This isn't a dick. - So what's the problem? - There isn't. No one said there's a problem. - I guess you are not, Mr.-- - Oh, Mr. Tyson made a very unscientific, he said, "Why are you playing with yourself?" - He tried to back out and say it was, well, it was a dick. - But this is my culture's knowledge stick and where we come from, that's how we get knowledge. - We used them to question it stick, knowledge stick, energy stick. - I'm using it as a bookmark for your fine books, or by the way, I loved. - Yeah, thank you so much. - By the way, and this is my flesh bookmarker that I use. - This is great for marking books. - Okay. This is what I'm gonna take in a shape. I clamp it shut. - We do that my day. - My species does that before we go to bed. We slam our thinking sticks in a book. - Did you ever slam your thinking stick when you were young? I had never did, but I had friends. Now this is like when we-- - Got it stuck in the bay doors of our ship once. - No kidding. - Yeah, it was horrible. - It doesn't have like a safe, like an elevator thing? - We after that, they started putting them in, but I mean, I was a kid, I didn't know. - Wow, so advancing gets so behind in some ways. - I know, you were always learning. I mean, this is one of the things people like Tyson teaches us. But yeah. - And get your booster. - Yeah, definitely. - That way, what does that say? When did you just look up slamming penis in books? (laughing) Let's see what Chad Jeepit says. Well, that sounds incredibly painful. Does it stop trying to act like you know me? - Depends on the book, honestly. - Oh my God, guys, AI got loose. I can't tell the difference with this piece of shit AI. Well, Rex, please, he has a big dick, but he doesn't, we could click that, what do you mean? - But he doesn't slam it in during the first time. - Oh, they're looking for books where he has a big dick, but he doesn't slam it in during their first time. I've, pilgrims of life. - Well, she's not going to like my favorite book. Straight to anal. - Yeah, no, that's right. - Go to shit. - Yeah, straight to anal is, yeah, it's an incredible. - Go to shit and back to shit. - It goes right in. But yeah, there's a lot of books like that. - Take me to the river by Casey Rose. (laughing) - He's a protect. - Well, go back, well, well, we're eating. - He's a protective man and eating. - Hold on a minute. He's a protect, and even delay is having sex with her because he's worried it's too big. I've been there. It's a low angst. - Smexy. - Sweet. - Oh, it's a smexy, what is a smexy mean? - A smexy mean. What's smexy? Can we pull that up? Smexy? Maybe that's just a misspelling. - If you don't do the research, you don't get the answers. - The combination of smut and sexy. - Oh, smexy. - Oh, it's smart. - Smart and, oh god, damn it. - Smexy. - Wow, hey, hey, they're smexykins. That means smart and sexy people. It's kind of smexy. - Smexy is the worst thing anyone ever typed into a Reddit. - Smexykins. Disney's out of control with smexykins. See, I was thinking of something like that. - Smart sexy Mexican. - Yeah. Shit. - Yeah, it's a light. - This is what they teach it. NASA, by the way. - Yeah. - Oh shit. - Yeah. - If you look in the Niels eyes. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's like 2001, dude. - Yeah. Open the pod doors. How? Open the doors. So he just got my green dick caught inside eternity. It's the worst feeling. Yeah, you get your dick in a black hole. You know, you know, what happens if I get my thinking stick in your, do you think build a grass Tyson? I really can't believe we didn't ask him this. He's ever taken acid. I'm asking you. Oh, me? I don't know. It doesn't sound like it, but why do you say doubt it, Carly? Well, because he really, you know, is a dignified academic. And I don't think he would risk fucking up his brain. But back in, but when he's younger, yeah, I think because he's an academic, he probably has. I bet he has no academics. I don't know, and I didn't want to bring this up to him, but you don't think how many academics are like when I say fucking creepy freaks. I mean, it doesn't even a little bit describe it. I mean, all the, all the greats, the father of AI, Marvin Minsky. You know, I got, yes. I mean, I've heard of him. Oh, he's a, well, Epstein files alum like myself. Can we pull up Marvin Minsky? Yeah. Oh, my God. Now, who would ever think this guy's some kind of sex goblin? It doesn't seem like it. Marvin Minsky, Epstein. He was linked. Oh, she had a fuck that guy. Yeah, well, I mean, if you, if you'd fucking out on Dershowitz, I guess, uh, Holy shit. If you, if you give it up to the Dersh, uh, put Shrodinger, you know, from Shrodinger's cat, you've heard of that, right? Please don't tell me this guy was a, or when, well, let's look at a picture of him first. I mean, I, well, no, not the cat, but Shrodinger, the guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's just see that picture of him. Okay. Now buckle up for this one. Don't get him. Uh, he was fucking pervert. Now, get out of here. Now look at, get a good look at him and get him. He doesn't seem like that. He's handsome. Well, he's got a bow tie and little round glasses. Kind of dashing. Well, is this dashing? He is actually, uh, sweeted journal of like all the 12-year-old girls he was courting. What? Yeah. Like, women are ruined after age 15 because, um, he cannot say that. Yeah. They're not going to get any smarter. So like, then he was like, uh, he was a gripper of his thought. Can we pull up his journals? What? Shrodinger? Are we Shrodinger? Uh, young girls. This sounds smexy as hell. Don't you have to go to all? This sounds smex. Smart and sexy. Oh, he's journal entry. Boy, it's great when you keep a diary. The diaries are revealed. Oh, my god, and groomed young girls, including if the younger starting, which is 14 years old and becoming sexually involved with, or resulting in pregnancy and an abortion. Uh. Shrodinger wrote in his journals that the innocence of these young girls matched his own scientific. What an asshole! My own genius. These girls are as innocent as I am smart. But I mean, he had a journal of like, young, what a piece of shit. But, you know, remember how MIT was the Epstein one? Wow. That they're all, and uh, put in what's that fucking guy from the Sophia bot that I showed you on your show a long time ago. From the what? Sophia, that little robot, the robot for girls. This is why I don't trust fucking NASA, by the way. Well, you should. Tyson just told you that there's all on the level. I mean, he did accept that they were hiding Epstein files on the moon. He props to him. Yeah, he did accept that. But I don't know, man, you did get pretty brutalized by him today. You should be ashamed. Did you price it right? I got bogged because I'll be I'll be pre-traumed. You pre-traumed right now. So you don't want it to get too worse. He smart bogged your ass. Shit. Shit. He got you, dude. He got you. Wait, are you looks back? What is PFL? Do you know what? Wait, 3.5 to 408, nor me. Oh, he's only got, oh, he's six too though. Okay. I don't know. I think he's pretty angry. So have you seen the clavicular documentary? Have you? No, I haven't watched that. I can't watch that shit. Okay, but because that's where you learn what a PSL score is. I knew what that was, but I didn't even watch the doc. It's, you know, it's J-O-O-N June the king, uh, is the guy made it, and it's about clavicular, is that what he looks like? Wow. That was crazy. I just saw no, not wings are down to them. The clavicular. Yes. Because the EDP 4451 is fucking incredible, but this one, do you understand this guy and put it up real quick? Do you know what Pua hate is? No, what is that? Pick up artist hate. Uh, so all these guys that can't even use NLP to manipulate women into having sex with them because they suck that bad. Yeah. They suck so bad they can't even use the easy hip nose as the Andrew T teaches. What is this? Wait, what? Yeah. Why are fill? Yeah. So why is, where did looks Max and come from? Do you know? It's from the black pill. Okay. So that a life loneliness is all that awaits us. Yeah, sure. Sure. Sure. So what you're seeing is like this weird like sexual nihilism thing, and it's from it's the trickle down Peter Teal. They all these tech guys want to financialize nature. Okay. Okay. So that's why we have a PSL score. So I can't just emote and and intuit how I feel like, right, about your green cock. I have to give it a score. Okay. It's how autistic they want everybody to get. Yeah, I got you because he's fucking half-roomed. They want to fight the unquantifiable. Yeah, they're all like, no, yeah, you can do that. And then they seem like smart-hearted. Like it's right. Right. Right. Right. Right. So that's what this poor smart, his parents are a couple of bodybuilders. Don't put my PSL score, dude. That's not fair to mock Duncan. There's no official PSL score for you. Yeah. And I just viewed that low to you. Where am I? What's mine? I just viewed my low tier and normy score. That's a I would say high tier. I don't think so, dude. Above normal. There's no way I've been scored. Hi, I'm Duncan Russell AMA. Low tier and normy. That was our punk band, obviously, but we haven't been. Wasn't a joke. What the fuck? They just said I jokingly said I was looks-macking. Yeah, fucking hurtful. That is to me as a pre-trigger control. 3.5 to 4.5. Slightly, pull this layer. Oh, cigarette. What did he get? 3.5 to 4.5. I know what? cigarette does have the bone structure of a chat. That's how they go. Why? Because Tony Henscliff. Oh, don't put the golden pony up there. 3.5 to put everyone's like in the middle. Yes, you better make some money in the podcast game. I guess you better make some podcast money because you're you're plus a pooh a score. Okay, wait. So black build was specifically a thing of like all that matters is how hot you are. Yeah. Okay. Right. Which is a weird thing to become a mainstream. Totally. Now they'll say it in political areas like in writing spaces, but they'll be like, oh, like if you like, I think America's a fake country would not a real deal about like, don't black kill me. But that's what it meant. Oh, let's see here. Look, that's me. Low tier normie. I think that guy's more handsome than me. But I'm definitely- I don't think I'm sub five. I would say I'm true Adam. The temple Adam. The template for all men. I accept that man. Look at that neck. And like Reggie Watts, I love myself. Yeah, me too. I love myself. I rule a lot. Like Reggie Watts once said, it explicably into a camera after that thing with his. Okay. Sub three, sub three is like post nuclear blast. Sub three is a man. No, does she? Does sub three have to have that specifically haircut? And TV is hot. All these are like HDB, yeah, for sure. I like the HDB. This stays the- I mean, I'm in the true evil. It's terrifying. I mean, honestly, okay. Sub three, I've been to be honest, he doesn't look like any where you could ethically even have intercourse with them person. That's like fell out of the back of a truck. But all the other ones pretty much hit all of them. All of them. I'd be the proud of my actually a sex with two, but I did punch each and every one of those. They're beautiful. I don't think that I think that HDB is hotter than the true eve. Me too. I think that fucking weird meaty neck that your eve has. Yeah. And the true eve has had worked on. Yeah. You know, Stacy, I don't know, man, I'm going for HDB all the way. And how come you're Asian? MTV, MTV looks good. These people are fucking. Concepto del Dio, Begoogle, Bebubo. What's an mtn? Boy, look at the mtn. No, wait, look at sub three. Who made these? A psycho. Somebody just- Somebody's black. Someone out of their fucking mind made these. Okay, so this little fucking this guy ha ha what is he yeah this is You know, I'll fuck this chick. You know, who's Lee? - What's an ITN? Oh, there we go. - Where about this girl? Oh, what about her? - He's giving examples. - Oh, what about that chick? Okay, wait. - MTN. - Who made this? - I wanna get up to that level. - But somebody said, look at low key him. Look at the guy's picture there. - Look. - Click on that picture, please. - Oh, beautiful. - Wow, now that chick works out. - Yeah, yeah. Anyway, go back to go back to, I noticed these two atoms are like different kinds of twinkies. - I can't help but notice they are. - So look, here's the thing about if your looks maxing. These are all autistic people that are easily, you know, they're already half of an iPhone, each other, one of them. - Yeah. - That kind of robot thinking, all that matters is your PSL score. - That's it. - And the fucking nerds at the top really want that to be how it is. - But they really think your personality's just irrelevant, like the way you act or all of that. It means nothing. - Sorry, I'm black-pulled. That sounds like some blue-pilp. Okay, so go ahead and go a little further into it. Yeah, wait, this is the hammer thing. - God, damn it, that's crazy. - So his parents, yeah, play a canyour. - Is that clovicular? - So here he is hitting his face with a mallet and his parents didn't want him doing this. - Did they really show this? Let me see this. There's videos. - But you know what was really funny is he was getting hormones in the mail. Just like if you were doing the, you know, how they're doing trans shit where they're doing bathtub hormones. - Yeah. - These creepy influencers. - Yeah. - Well, on this end, they're doing it too. Because all of them are like, oh, they're all on school shooter pills from an early age, right? And then they're like, there's other pills, oh. - Does he do it? Show him hitting his face. - Look, he can't argue with results. - It's called bone smashing. - Does he do it? I want to see him do it. - Show it. - Where should pump? - That's not anything. - Well, he's mom, right? - He's not even doing it. - I honestly, like, even though that's blurry, you could feel everything his mother feels really good. - I thought they really smashed their heads. I didn't know they were doing these like light taps. - Really just like if you slap your face with a cock. - Yeah, it's like slapping your face with a cock. - Yeah, just to make it more masculine. I'm gonna keep doing Reeves shrug and chewing phallum gum. That's that super hard gum. I'm already, what does that say? Don't get that word, I can't make it. - Where? - I'm a little last night. I'm already, what? - I'm gonna keep going. I'm already, I can't read that. I don't know what that word is. - Tanner, can you see that? I have old eyes. - Tanner, what does that say? - Tanner, can you read that word please? - I think it says "Fajot." - Oh, that is that Italian. - I think it dessert. Okay, we'll pull out. - Fajot. - Oh, we should have some Fajot after this. - Is that food? - He's probably just blue. Oh, listen, but this part. My cousin's a jaw surgery at a hospital. Okay, wait. - Oh, we read it. - And he said it's. - Read the top part first. - My mom has caught me bone smashing and mentioned it on Thanksgiving dinner before and I got laughed at. But I played it off pretty well. My cousin is a jaw surgeon at a hospital and said it's retarded. (laughing) But he's probably just blue-pilling and trying to stop my ascension. - Dude, now you see where the weird magical language comes in? - What the fuck? - All these tech freaks, they're all doing a cult shit and it's not just like tech. That's why these words keep. That's the trickle-down from your upper class billionaire psychopath, Catachon, holding back the manifest. That's where the ascension is a crazy word for. - To not be literate. - To not be literate and kukku talk like this. It's like you're missing half the world right. That's why Neil, I mean, that's an award for staying in his lane. - Yeah, he did. - But not, if you want to see a big picture, you're gonna have to understand this shit. You're gonna have to look at. - I mean, I think he agreed with everything we had to say. - That surprised me. And I should add to a very persuasive debate techniques. - Yeah, it was good. - I mean, that's why I'm a professor. - Thanks for teaching me those tricks, man. - Don't thank me, thank the Andrew Wilson School of women are hard and you look snooze, you bitch. - Yep. - It's a long title for school, but I like to recite it out loud every time I stay in my credentials. - Well, you know, man, I don't know. I do feel like it's important to be beautiful, but I can't believe they're leaving out the personality part. I mean, how many times have you met a beautiful person? They talk and they're not beautiful anymore. - Oh my God, if my looks ever failed me, I will have nothing. - Dude, you have a great personality. And if your Luke's failed, you'd be fine. - Oh, you're never minding me why I brought this up. - Loathe your norbees, smash your own Facebook. Do you have this? Did you guys get to do a loathe your norbe album? - Fucking good. - It's fucking rad, bro. - Dude, do you guys have my video from Loathe your norbe? Can you guys play that? - What kind of music will we do in grind? - Farts and jars. - Do you guys have that song? - Oh, do we have a, yeah, we should play this for you when we give them the award. Fuck this whole award thing up. You know, like I came around to our point of view, 100%. - 100%. - And you didn't even remember to give me that. - He started off skeptical, he got vulnerable, and he changed. - That's what true scientists do. - When I came in thinking the moon landing happened, he left saying not. He came in not wanting to talk about the genocide and at the end, he completely done a 3-180, 3-60. What is it, 3-60 or 180? 3-60, he went up in the same place. - Yeah. - The point is, we changed him. - The full 720. - He did a 720, is it a 360 or 180? He didn't know if he was coming or going. - 360, you're in the same place. - It's like fucking a dolphin. You're upside down, you're right side up. You don't know when to do it. - And I think that was a good opening. - That was a good opening is bringing up dolphin fucking. - Well, that's a disarm people. I learned that in your Wilson school. - Look at this dolphin dick. - And if we had to, we could have-- - Terrifying. - We could have taken it to here, but-- - Terrifying, we didn't have to. - Luckily, we didn't have to deploy the big guns. - The big guns. - Okay, wait, what were we just looking at that you? Oh, so I forgot the clavicular dock. In his in cell forums, he used to post on. He talked about a black guy taking a P next to him. And it's one of the saddest, funniest things I've ever seen. It's in his messages. And he talks about how this guy has a more girthful stream than him. - Are you fucking kidding me? - Go back. Oh, God. - Curth maxing? - Dic-ups for girth maxing. - Yeah, you know, like gel kick. Oh my God, we can't-- - Soft maxing. - Or acceptable methods sometimes used by the general populace. For example, dieting will fall under a soft maxing. More something like a nose surgery, a rhinoplasty would be hard maxing. - I just hard maxed my nose, dude. Yeah, there's a part where he's, oh my God. Oh, staring into the sun to make your eyes blower is one thing. - What? - Yeah, go back a little bit. Watch, this is where I'm like, this is an op. It's not, it's not that they're stupid. This is an op. - Right. - All right, but just play where you hear the guy. They've all been staring at me. Yeah. - You see brown. - That's why I can do this, right now. - Among the other looks, maxing methods, even Braden found this a bit too absurd, which is why he was asking his fellow four members to album develop it to a point where a black eye gets an exit. 'Cause so he really was open with his form and he was explaining how he's a four inch dick. And so he gets a little self-conscious about it and then a black eye took a P next to him. It was like, it was one of the craziest things I've ever seen that anybody write down. Like he was listening to the guy's P. So he knew that he had a nice girl. - I can't imagine being jealous of a dude's piss stream. - Well, at that age. Yeah. You know, it was not as prostate. - What the fuck. - You know. - Why does Clavicular like mentioning BBC's so we can pre-com? Okay, let's see, let's see what he says. - All the BBC's will make her cream. - You're so annoying Bob. - What's up? - You're in the way. (laughing) - You're actually annoying. - I don't know. - Is it funny? - Ah, I'm not laughing, not laughing. - Yeah, dude, he's enraged, you know. - It's so sad. - It looks like he's about to get beaten with an object smaller than a thumb. (laughing) - Isn't the average tradition. (laughing) - Holy fuck. - Oh my God, I can't believe we converted, we converted newly grass Dyson. - It was crazy to watch the look on his face when we blew up his idea that people landed on the moon. - Look at his face with the joy of having true knowledge. - He's free now. - Say that bullsh*tty who's walking around with. - I can't wait to see him on Bill Maher next. He's gonna be a different person after this. - Yeah, it's like that book was like, he pooped out all that uses crap. He doesn't need no more. - It feels, don't you feel a little weird being so powerful though? I mean, it's like, you know, the language is a weapon. Well, I'm very overly sensitive, but also streaming. Thank you for playing that, guys. Yeah. While you're watching that, I just want to say, you can't kiss yourself in the mirror. You can't kiss yourself on the cheeks. Just the lips. You can only kiss yourself on the lips. Fifth Street. New York City. There's a locker out there. You don't find the key. You know where to look. Go now. This is what you were born for. You are a new person, Kurt. You are never born. You'll never die. You never was there a time when you did not a kiss. Wherever in the future show you cease to be. Therefore, nothing to fear. Hey, welcome to expert's expert. I'm Jadurp Kaderp, and we're talking a Neil deGrasse Mike Tyson. Today we learned a lot, and we forgot a lot, too. That's the important part. Forgetting. You can't learn new stuff unless you forget some old stuff. That's the thing we like to say, Cambridge. You've got to clear the memory of the hard drive sometimes if you want to put new files on. What is a woman? I don't know. What is a woman? I know when I smell it. And I know when I feel it. And I know you're a woman. And I know you're with me right now. Oh. Okay. I want to thank you. Neil deGrasse Tyson. A great. I want to thank Cambridge for my position. And I want to thank NASA for never lying about anything. You know a lot of these organizations will let you down, but there's one that has never let us know. NASA. Or Cambridge. NASA. You know, I know there's been a lot of controversy over my professorship. A lot of people saying who is that guy and he doesn't. Yeah, people are saying you can just put on any outfit and say you're a professor. I know. Oh my god. Did somebody say what is a woman? Hey, everybody, it's me, Buster. I just wanted to plug my dates coming up. You guys can catch me. I'm going to be I'm going to be a red. I'm going to be a red belly, he's the lower of Mesopotamia. Hey, and also I just want to say, you're to me, you're a none out of none. Well, no busted. I appreciate that. That's really nice. You Buster. That's actually really nice to you. Yeah, you're welcome. Hey, why don't you pull up more sigils of demons on the screen, guys. You're in love with that. Oh my. Oh, Lordy. Yeah. Woo. Check it out. These are my jokes. That's my sad list. Of course. Of course, that's what's got to be single time. You've been watching the mystery, boys. Don't forget to buy the Eldercross Tyson's new book, Lost in Space. It's really good. NASA doesn't lie. We went to the moon. Vaccines are great. And don't forget to smash your ugly face with a fucking hammer. You piece of shit. You just got fucking solved. All right. Are we done? Yeah, you could close it on some guys. All right, you just solved the fucking mystery with the mystery, boys. Thank you so much for watching. Don't forget to hit that like and subscribe button down below. It's in this to your mom. Phew. Whoa, man. That one was like more than I was supposed to do. If I'm being honest. Bit off a little more than you could chew. Yeah, I actually got lost in Neil deGrasse Tyson's eyes on the screen at that point. Look at those eyes. They have to cut every, all that out. They have to cut like this whole, most of those out. You can't cut out that, which is not. [MUSIC] [BLANK_AUDIO]

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The universe's expansion and its ultimate fate remain unanswered questions in astrophysics, with no definitive knowledge of whether it expands into something or simply continues infinitely.
  2. Mike DeGrasse Tyson emphasizes that major scientific mysteries—like dark matter, black holes, and the origin of the universe—are still being explored, and public understanding should not be limited by speculation.
  3. Tyson argues that scientific information should be transparent and accessible, warning that suppression of scientific knowledge—especially by military or political entities—undermines informed democracies and leads to public distrust.

Summary:

In this episode of Expert to Expert, Dr. Mike DeGrasse Tyson discusses fundamental questions in cosmology, such as whether the universe expands into something or simply continues infinitely, emphasizing that these remain open scientific mysteries with no definitive answers. Tyson highlights the accessibility of cutting-edge astrophysics to the public, stressing that even the most profound questions—like the nature of dark matter or the origin of the universe—are still being actively researched.

He argues against pseudoscientific beliefs, such as alien abductions or demonic forces, as distractions from real scientific inquiry, and warns that misinformation, especially when amplified by conspiracy theories, threatens democratic societies. He defends the transparency of science, citing institutions like NASA as trustworthy and publicly accountable, while criticizing the suppression of scientific findings—particularly in military or political contexts—as a threat to informed governance. Tyson also addresses public skepticism toward science, linking it to broader societal issues like climate change, rising natural disasters, and the Kessler effect from space debris.

He ultimately calls for openness and honesty in scientific discovery, advocating that evidence—like alien encounters or new astronomical data—should be presented directly, not veiled in speculation. He concludes by stressing that true scientific progress depends on transparency, public trust, and the freedom to question, especially when faced with complex realities such as climate change, satellite dangers, or the unknown nature of the universe.

FAQs

The universe is not expanding into anything. It's expanding within itself, and we don't know what, if anything, lies beyond it. This is one of the deepest unanswered questions in modern cosmology.

No, we do not know what dark matter or dark energy are made of. They make up most of the universe's mass and energy, but their exact nature remains one of the biggest mysteries in physics.

There is no confirmed evidence of extraterrestrial life or alien encounters. Reports of UAPs (unidentified aerial phenomena) are being investigated, but no alien life forms have been verified.

If the universe has no boundary, then it cannot have an end. An end would imply something outside of it, which contradicts the idea of a universe without limits—this is a philosophical and physical concept that remains open.

The telescope has found galaxies forming earlier than expected, suggesting our understanding of galaxy formation is incomplete. This leads to ongoing research, not a definitive conclusion, about the early universe.

No. If a scientific discovery is made independently and not part of a classified program, it should be disclosed publicly. Secrecy undermines transparency and public trust in science.

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