NDE Experiencer Reveals What's Coming For Humanity

And now, from beyond our dimension, this is the Jeff Mura Vagas. Here's Jeff. My guest is Aaron McGatham, who's had three near-death experiences, which we're going to talk about and more. Aaron, thanks for joining us and welcome. Jeff, thank you so much for inviting me on your show. I'm really happy to be here. Well, we're happy to have you. And before we get started, there's something on your shirt right there. What is that? It is something that a friend of mine made. And it's a little alien head with, yeah, it's their emblem. That's cool. Yeah. It's nice. Yeah, Steve Neal made this. Steve Neal, all right. Is he ever website? He does. He's actually him and Mary are breaking the silent. Okay. Well, if you want to look into Steve's creations, there you guys go. Let's start with your first NDE and go from there. Okay. I can do that. It was in 1999. February 20th in 1999. At that point in time, I was living in a 16 by 16 shed behind somebody's house. And I didn't realize it, but they had Russ, which coming up in the backyard. And I caught Hepatitis A. And I looked this up in their medical library at the county hospital. And that is a very, very violent water in third world countries. And that always stuck with me like, wait a minute, America is not a third world country. Why is this happening? Well, because the people that lived in that house were not high quality. I'm going to say that. And they let a sewage break happen in their backyard and didn't clean it up. So I was in the 16 by 16 shed and I had been sick for a while. And I didn't know what was going on. I became allergic to a lot of things. But what happened was. I ended up my boyfriend at the time. I knew that I was dying. He took me to the county hospital. And we walked in on our own accord. And I was wearing cowboy boots. And I knew that they were hazardous with Hepatitis A. So I took them off in through them and has been. And we walked in and I checked in and they triaged me and sent me back out to the waiting room. And I was telling my boyfriend, I'm dying. I'm dying. And he looked at me and didn't understand what was going on. But he went and tried to go in the back of the emergency room doors. And I never saw him again. I did see like the guards security guards escorting him away from the waiting room. And at this point in time, it felt like I had a long, black, kidney, tarry hand come up through my esophagus, grab my lips and pull everything inside me. I was self-imploding. And by this time I was sitting in a wheelchair. And when the nurse finally came out, she called my name and all I could do was put a finger up. And so she took me and wheeled me through the doors. And at the nurses desk, there was a tall nurse that was Brunette. And she was talking on the phone. And she goes, "Are you Aaron McCatum?" And I went, "Yes." She goes, "Your daughter's on the phone." Now, my daughter didn't live with me and I didn't know. I was like, "Okay." So I grabbed the phone and I don't even remember. I think it was like, "Mom, don't leave me. Don't leave me." And I, "Okay." And I handed the phone back and they pushed me back to a room where I asked for a pen and paper. So they gave me a little piece of paper and a red pen and I started to try to write out my will, which was pretty futile. My body systems were shutting down and at this point I could have heard a pin drop at the end of the hallway because my world was shrinking so much. Then the next thing I know, I'm in a treatment room with a few other people. And there is a male nurse that is working on me and he's trying to get blood to put in the centrifuge, spin it down. And when he finally did get blood out, it clumped out like cottage cheese. And he said, "There's not even enough here to process." And that was about the last thing that I heard him say because at that point, my world shrunk up and I was on the other side. And where I landed was, to me it felt like I landed in pink cotton candy. That it was so bright over there. There's nothing in this world here that is that bright. By say I landed in pink cotton candy because it was sweet. And the first thing I remember doing was, "I'm finally home." I was out of pain. There was no more physical, mental or emotional pain that was going on. But it was such a sweet relief. Like finally, I'm finally home. And the next thing I remember is I'm laying on my back. And there's a voice that booms through every cell in my body, the vibration of it. It's like, "You're not supposed to be here. You have to go back." And I started getting angry. And I was like, "No, you don't understand. I tried really hard to be here. I deserve to be here." And the voice came again and it was, "You have more left to do. You are not supposed to be here." And so I got really angry at that point. And I told this voice, "I tried really hard to get here." And the next thing I know, I'm looking up at this male nurse again. And I'm spitting mad. And he looks down at me, very condescending. And he says, "You guys always come back. I'll piss off." I was like, "No kidding. I didn't want to be here." And so then what had happened was I had total organ failure and they had catheterized me and drained off the uric acid. And so my organ started functioning again. And I was not happy to be back here. And so he left to go do something. And he came back and he accused me of having the mobs. And I got really offended at that because the mobs was associated with doing heroin. And I, in my story, I got addicted to drugs and alcohol. And this NDE that I had here was what changed my life 180 degrees. So he left again. And I was really mad that he accused me of having the mobs. So I thought, "Well, I'm leaving." I had enough air. So I pulled on my little vest that I had and got ready to go out and tread through the world. And so I left AMA against medical advice. And I was, I left. And it started raining and it was raining really, really hard. And this is in Martinez at the county hospital. And as I walked down the pathway that was right near the road, there was somebody in a white car that was following me as I walked down and walked down to Alhambra Road. And I sat at this bus stop that was covered. And I sat there for the longest time trying to figure out if what I had just gone through was real or not. In my past, I had been told what I was thinking. So it was like brainwashing. And so to actually bring this experience into my, myself and my, my being was like, well, it really did happen. You did have this experience. And that was a lightning moment for me. That was me claiming back my own self and my belief in my experiences instead of being gaslit like I was for quite some time. And then in my head, I started talking to the supreme being, whoever, you know, creator, whatever you want to call that person or that entity. And telling it, okay, if you want me to, I will do my best to become the best person I can. I've been given another chance at life. So if you want me to be a part of that, I'll be right back. me to be a writer, I'm going to be a Pulitzer Prize winning author, right, this all this anyway. And in front of me, it's still pouring rain and there's cops that are going by all the time because they knew I was highly contagious, with that kind of saying. And I sat on that bench for probably five hours until it got dark. And the rain had stopped, so I walked over to where there was a pay phone, there was a catch through the wall. And I was going to call my daughter because weeks prior, I had talked to her on the phone and I said, "Honey, there's going to come a time where I'm not going to know what to do." And you're going to have to tell me what to do. And I repeated this over and over again and she's like, "Mom, what are you talking about?" And I said, "I don't know, but there's going to come a time where I'm not going to know what to do and you're going to have to tell me." And she goes, "Okay, mom, and we hung up the phone." So back to me getting to this pay phone, I pulled out my little address book and I'm standing there, not comprehending how to do what I need to do. And there's a brown Camaro that pulls up in the circle right next to me. And this gentleman gets out of his car, he comes over to the pay phone and he asks me, "Are you trying to make a phone call?" And I said, "Yeah." And he said, "Do you have money?" No. And so he puts a quarter into the money slot, coin slot. And I'm looking at my phone book and I'm shaking so bad I don't know how to dial. And so he asks me who he's trying to call. And I pointed it out to him and it's my daughter. So he pushes the buttons for me, makes sure it's ringing, hands me the phone, he goes back to his car and leaves. No clue who this person was. I like to call this low God shots. And so I finally got to hold my daughter and asked, "Oh, I said to her, honey, I don't know what to do. Tell me what to do. Tell me what to do." And I repeated it a number of times and she's like, "Mom, and then she finally goes, "Oh, hang on." So she went and she was living with another family at the time. And she finally comes back and she goes, "Okay, mom, go up to the to John, near in, near in and we'll come and we'll pick you up." I was like, "Okay." And in my mind, I'm thinking, "That's more than a mile away. I don't have my boots anymore." "Okay, honey, I'll see you there and hang up the phone." And at that point in time, our teenage needs to flood really bad. And there was a good eight inches of water in the streets. And so I started walking and taking a little bit of tiny steps. And in my head, I was telling myself, "Okay, you can do one more little step and one more little step." And my socks were flopping down at the end of my toes, you know, just socks popping wet. And so I finally made it up to the mirror and collapsed against a soda machine under the overhang there. And they have a French door there and the lady looks out and she goes, "Are you okay?" And I'm like, "Yeah, I'm thinking to myself, no." But so I ended up there for probably an hour at least. And then a van pulls up and it's my daughter in it and the woman where she was living. "Excuse me." And so they helped me inside the van and there was a little bag with some of my daughters clothes in it. And they said, "Well, where do you want to go?" I'm like, "Well, I have to go back to the shed where I was living to grab some things." And I knew that they were going to be watching the shed because of the cops knew where I lived. And so I changed my clothes and they left me behind this gas station and then I ended up walking probably a half a mile to where I was living. And so I changed my clothes and left again and walked down to the bar that I used to frequent and walked up some outside stairs and it was a Saturday night and it was packed there. And the cops were going in and out asking for me because I kept hearing my name. So I called a friend of mine who drove taxi cab and he came and he picked me up and took me across one of the bridges. And there I changed my clothes again, but I had this experience when I walked out to the center and looked at the glass mirror behind the bar and I was shining. I was glowing from this incident. And then I waited there for hours and I left with another lady who gave me a ride back. But I did end up hiking to my dad's house and he was gone with his girlfriend at the time and curled up right outside his backyard gate because I was too afraid to go in because my dad had been exiled from my family for over 10 years. So I curled up there and something happened when I was asleep there, the ground started shaking really bad and it woke me up and I got really scared so I went inside his gate and then I ended up inside his garage and curled up under his sink in the garage covering myself with towels because it was really cold. And then the next day I talked to my sister on the phone because he had one in the garage and so she then told my dad and his girlfriend that I was there so they knew when they came home I was there. So when they came home she got in her car and got me to go in that car and then took me to a hotel where I stayed the night and she had a friend who was in recovery who was driving my recovery from the back end of it. So she was telling who ended up to be one of my stepmums, what to do with me every step of the way. So she ended up picking me up, picking me to a hospital and the hospital said well whoever's been in contact her has to have contact with her has to have a shots. So my kids weren't too happy with that but so they admitted me there and what they told my stepmother Doris of the time. Okay you need to take her to county hospital you don't have any. She doesn't have insurance so she took me to county hospital and they did all kinds of tests on me and evidently my liver was failing still so they would wouldn't let me have certain foods so then I ended up going into the mental health department there. So they actually released me and she took me to a medical detox facility, 28 day program where I spent 36 days there and that was the start of my recovery and that was 27 years ago. You were conscious and then you woke up in this pink cotton candy land right? Right. Was the transition of being conscious to that realm an instantaneous transition or do you think there was a little bit of time delay? Well at that point in time I thought it was an instant transition but a few years ago after my second NDE some psychic doors started opening up and I started canaling a star being and he filled me in on what had happened in between time. So evidently there was some some story around that which was quite interesting so. Hmm what information did he give you? Well he I recorded it. He said what I was told was that there was a blue dragon that came and caught me as I went from this world into the next and flew me up to a great big door where I opened the door knob and the whole wall in the door all fell away and then I was in I can't call it heaven I was just in a different dimension is how I feel about it. There was a voice that told you you need to go back or you have to go back. Right. Who do you think that voice was? Creator. All right. While you were in that realm, did you feel like indescribable bliss or anything? I did. For me, it was more the absence of pain. And that was bliss for me. You know, I was in pain my whole life. Did you hear any sounds while you were there? Only the vibrating voice. And it was a deep voice. It was sounded in like a male voice. Did you see any other beings there? No. Do you feel like you got any psychic abilities from that experience? Yes. Yes. More so from my second NDE. All right, well, let's jump to your second one then. In 2020, September of 2020, I get a lot of research and found out that I had Lyme disease that was undiagnosed for over 50 years. So I found a Lyme doctor and he started treating me. And for a year, nine months, 10 months, I was on heavy duty antibiotics, oral antibiotics, inter muscular injections, and then IV antibiotics, and anti-malarials, antivirals, antifungals, yeah, antiparasitics, to try to get better. And what happened was it ended up nearly killing me. There was a day that I couldn't get out of my bed. And my daughter was in my house. She was recuperating from a surgery. And she came down and looked at me and she was like, "Mom, you have to get up." No, I don't. And so she's like, "I'm gonna call you an ambulance." I'm like, "No, I'll be fine, honey. I'll be fine." And so she went upstairs. And I eventually did get up. And what happened was I ended up collapsing and fell into some things and everything fell on top of me. So I then told her, "Okay, you can call the ambulance now." And so the ambulance came and they put me on the gurney and started taking me down my walkway. And my daughter was behind me and she's like, "Mom, mom, you can't leave me now. We just started our relationship." And I was like, "Okay." So they put me in the back of the ambulance and they could not get an IV started because I was so dehydrated. And I just told the medical gentleman who was trying to help me just like, don't try anymore. Just let me be. I'm a really hard stick anyway. And for the ambulance ride to the hospital, I remember being out of my body and just looking through the back windows at the road going by. And as soon as we got to the hospital and they pulled the gurney out and the wheels hit the ground, I went right back in my body like just slammed back into it. And then I ended up staying in the hospital for 10 days trying to get better. Besides looking at the road going by, could you see your body there and the paramedic attending to you? I couldn't see it, but I knew it was there. It was almost as if I was tethered to it by a tiny thread. Do you think that what caused the NDE was the trauma of whatever fell on top of you? No. No. It was from being so ill from all the medication that I was on. It destroyed my body. So after this one is when you got the psychic abilities then, right? Indeed. What kind of abilities did you get? Well, I've always had like, premonitions happening or I would know when somebody was going to call me, depending on how cohesive their face was. If it was like looking like a human, they would call me within a few hours. If it was, fill me, they would call me within 24 to 48 hours. But I started knowing things about people. And right around when I turned 65, I thought to myself, you know, I'm going to lean into all these experiences that I've had throughout my life. And find out what's really behind this stuff. So I had started to go see some mediums at shows. The first one I saw was Cindy Kesa. And I remember going there and just being really quiet and the friends that took me were all excited. We're going to get a reading blah, blah, blah. And I was just sitting there going. And it turns out I got a reading almost immediately. But it wasn't for me. It was for my kids' grandparents. But I heard her afterwards answering questions. People were asking, how do you know that you had this and how did you perfect what you know your mediumship? And I heard her say something about the spiritualist church. So I got it, hold of the spiritualist church and became a member. And then I started taking mediumship classes. And then I got in touch with Arthur Findley College in Stanstead, England. And because it was COVID, they were doing Zoom classes. So I could actually attend these classes. So I've had training in mediumship. I've done at one time six one-year mentorships with Tony Stockwell, one of them being star beings, the universe is calling. That was quite interesting. Remote viewing, trans, trans-channeling, you name it. Yeah. I've hit the trifecta and I did trainings with James Van Progg, Cindy Kase, Anthony Muraca, quite a few people. But I found that I received the messages that my calling is not as a medium. I do all that when I'm working with people. But yeah. If we go back to the last one, you learned all this information from this being, right? Can you tell us more about that being? Well, his name is Azark and decided from the first time when I recorded him coming through with a message. I was taking mediumship classes from Reverend Liz Hoy and the Reverend Kathy. I can't remember her last name. Sorry, Reverend Kathy. I was in mediumship classes every Monday night for quite a long time. But as I was working with this partner, I had gone into the power, which is you meditate, but it's a deeper state. And all of a sudden, when I opened my voice, it sounded like scratchy metallic sounds coming out, almost like turning the radio dial and getting all this squaky stuff. And I instantly pulled out of, you know, giving a message and looked at my partner and we're like, what was that? So I pushed the call button and Reverend Liz came in and we told her what was going on. And she's like, okay, we'll go back into the power again and try it again. So I did that. And as soon as I opened my mouth to give the message, it was the metallic grinding sounds and the radio interference sounds that were coming out of my mouth. And so I instantly popped back out of it and was like really mystified as to what was going on. So Reverend Liz goes, all right, let's go back in and try it one more time. And so I did and I opened my mouth and it started again. And I heard Reverend Liz go just keep speaking. Just keep speaking. And at that time, the voice evened out. And when I was due trans, I would take my conscious mind and set it aside and let this being come in. And it turned out, because when I do that, I don't know what's being said. But when I finally came back from giving this message, they're crying, I'm crying. And I'm like, what happened? and all's there. I could say was, oh my God, that was so perfect. And it was, I believe it was her daughter, message around her daughter. But it was, that's where Azoch really started coming through. And at one point in time, I was having a conversation with him as I was driving down to a woman's retreat. And I hear he's like, it's A-E-Z-OK. (laughs) 'Cause I was in Australia. I'm like, okay, got it. So yeah, that's where he started coming through and when he would come through, he would, like in between my shoulder blades down my spine, he would come through an opening in there. And I could feel him come through and put his arms into my body, through my arms, almost like putting a sweater sleeves on and he would inhabit my body. And that was when we were like, knew it at doing this. And so that happened for a while, but he would pull out because it was very, he would like to, I could remember him doing this. Like, oh my gosh, it feels so good to feel because when he's, his light body, he doesn't feel that. But it was very uncomfortable for him to be in my body. So then he would, he would leave. But he doesn't have to do that anymore. - Are you saying you're still in contact with him? - I am. - Has he revealed predictions of the future, like what's coming or any messages for humanity? - Well, he did. It was a couple of years ago. It was something about there being a great upheaval that society, as we know it now, is going to crumble and there's gonna be a new societal change that comes in that Native Americans have been right because they love the planet and there's no possessiveness, right? Kindness is my religion. And it's, we were, I was told that there's a network of light workers and energy workers that are coming, and they're gonna help guide our planet with the disclosure from the beings on the other side. And there's all different types of beings. - All right, let's move forward now to your third NDE. - One of the things that in all this sensitivity is I'm highly sensitive. So I'm highly allergic to fragrances and chemicals. So I came in my house one afternoon. I had just picked up a spinning wheel. And I came in and there was, I thought it was a white pillow on my chair. And I picked it up and as soon as I picked it up, I realized it wasn't that. It was a white cotton dress that my daughter had bought at Target. And when I picked it up, it was full of chemicals. And I stopped breathing. I sat down and I just remember everything going like black. And I felt myself at the top of a mountain, but there was, it was like a razor sharp mountain. And I was disbalancing on my feet. Do I go and fall in front of me and go into the void of the next dimension? Or do I fall back into my body again? And in my head, I can hear my daughter going, Mom, you can't leave me, mom, you can't leave me. And so once again, it's like, okay, let's fall back into the chair and I was finally able to breathe again. I don't know how long I had stopped breathing for. Yeah. And that was just eight months ago. - Do you fear death? - No. - Not one bit. Not one bit, 'cause I know what's on the other side. - Have any of the memories of any of these NDEs faded over time? - No. - They're just as vivid as when I was experiencing them. - Do you think about them every day? - No. - Not every day. If I think about something that's in the past that keeps me tethered to the past. And I like to do my best to live in today. That's all we have. - In what ways do you think the NDEs have changed you? - Well, I will never ever think of suicide again. And the NDEs, the first one especially, I couldn't find a way out of where I was at in my life there. I just wanted to escape. I lost my kids, I lost everything. And it showed me that I could be willing to change because after that I ended up going to treatment program called Lahem, which was intensive outpatient. And I was there for eight months while living in a clean and sober house as well. So for me, it wasn't an easy go because I shook like a leaf and I stuttered really bad. And I couldn't even remember how to read. So that one gave me the willingness to do whatever it takes no matter what. To live in this world and try to be a part of it. And the second one really helped break me open. And I believe that the third one really helped, as I'm thinking about it right now, that was right around the time that this thing happened with my dad. So it might have opened more doors to the other side. - After watching this podcast, people may want to reach out to you and ask you questions. Are you open to that? And if so, how can they contact you? - Oh, I have a website, erinmacadam.com and erinmacadamhealer.com. So just reach out. - Aaron, before we finish up, can you leave us with a last positive message? - Mm. Love everybody you can know because tomorrow is not a given. Be kind, just be kind. 'Cause we never know what somebody else is going through. - Aaron, thank you for your message and thank you for being my guest. - Thank you. Yeah. Well, let me know if you want me back for the UFO stuff. - I do. - Okay.