Navigating Mental Health & Self Doubt With Jesus With Kate Massey

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Okay, so I grew up in a Christian home. I had what other people would probably consider a picturesque life. My parents were very involved in our church. We were always at the church if the doors were open, that type of thing. But there were also things that I went through that I think some people can definitely relate to a lot of it. But there were things that even though my life seemed pretty perfect, it obviously wasn't because nobody's life is perfect. And there were things that I went through when I was younger that really impacted me and the way that I would see the world around me, which that's what trauma is. I'm a trauma counselor. So if I throw in little tidbits here, excuse me, it's hard to turn off. No. But with that, it's something where like I went through different things in my life and it was everything from struggling with suicidal ideation from being bullied to family trauma. I had some, you know, even though things seemed pretty great, I had some people who were very verbally abusive, mentally abusive, things like that that would come up. I struggled with being sexually abused, different things. And so like looking at all that, it's hard for us to see where God fits into that, but he is. And that was one of the things that actually pushed me into counseling is because I wanted to be able to help people where they are and when they're in the pain, be able to help them find God and connect to him. Because a lot of times we want to pull away when we start to experience that pain because we think he's not there. And the truth is he is there and he's the only thing that's going to help us through it. You can get through it, but having him on your side, it completely changes how you get through it. And so the book just kind of talks about like different areas of my life and what I've been through and there are just so many different things where I was like, okay, God, you know, this book kind of fell into my lap. It was something that he asked me to do. Our pastor was giving a sermon on God-given dreams. I had always wanted to write a book and I was like, I don't know God. That's, I tried. It wasn't working. And then when during that sermon, God was like, now's your time. And I said, okay. And he told me what to write on. And the way that I felt led to write the book was to show not just where he was, but where he would provide in those times so that people can look at it and see maybe their situation from a different perspective. Yeah. Wow. Wow. That is powerful and like I'm so sorry as well for what you've been through. And I can imagine, because I totally understand like I can imagine that like being in that kind of trauma can really impact though yourself as themes. So like has there been any moments in your life where you've had to really like kind of like take your God-fidence, I like to call it God-fence, but taking your God-fence back with Jesus and like how did you overcome those like if you had any like moments of self-doubt from that, how did you overcome that? Oh, 100%. I feel like we all have self-doubt on some level, but I feel like one of the things that really has helped me in that area is I really studied who God said I am because where I was struggling with my confidence, I was struggling because of accepting what the world had told me, what other people had said about me, but they didn't create me so they don't get to define who I am. And so I was letting someone who didn't have authority to do that shift who I am. I was allowing them to have that authority. And that wasn't their job and it wasn't my job to give them that authority because someone else had already done that. God had already done that. And so that was one thing that God really showed to me is he said, "Okay, look in my word and see who I define you as." And it was interesting because as I would look into that, I would see, "Okay, you don't say what the world says about me. It's completely opposite of what the world has said about me." And so if I dig into what you're saying and I allow myself to understand that and take that to heart and another thing is speaking it over yourself. A lot of times we don't realize the power of our words. And if we do use that power, you can see how it seeps into your life a little bit more. And remembering that we're created in God's image, he created the world through speaking. So if his words have power, our words also have power. And so looking at that and when you read those verses, for me it was big when I started inserting, like, there's the verse that says, "You're more precious than reviews." I would insert my name there and say that over myself. And that shifted it because it made it personal. Instead of just speaking in generalities, I was able to shift it where it was about me. So I mean, that was a big thing for me. And speaking those affirmations that were bivocally based over myself. That's power, that's power right there. And it's so hard too. It's so hard because I think such a common question is, is any time we're going through something so hard, it's like literally like, where are you guys? What is the purpose behind this? And so have you found, because I know for me something I'm learning too, is there's always pain in the purpose? Like, that is such a powerful, a powerful book title. But like, have you, like, do you believe now, like, we're looking back where you are to, like, where you are now versus where you were before? Do you feel like there's always a purpose in each season that we are in with God? A hundred percent. And that's one of the things that I also address at the, towards the end of the book, is, if I could go back and change any of the things I've been through, I wouldn't. Because I believe God has used that to make me a stronger counselor for my clients. Because when people come in and they're struggling with suicidal ideation, I can come and speak from a place of someone who's been there. It's not just book knowledge, but I have heart knowledge of what it's like to experience that. And so with that, these different things that God allowed me to go through, each one allows me to connect with different people in different ways. And so understanding where they're coming from allows me to help them connect with God in that situation. Because when you've gone through something, there is a level of authority that you have in that area. And so the different traumas I faced, all they did was build my authority. Wow. Amen, sister. Amen. Wow. That is so powerful. How has your book impacted not just your life, but the lives of others? So I've had quite a few people who came up to me that have read it. And they've said, you know, when I read your book, there were things that I went through where I didn't realize that was traumatic for me. I didn't realize how much it impacted my life. And we all go through different types of trauma. And I think it's easy for us to discredit our trauma at times because we hear things about you know, like when I was talking at the beginning of I had a pretty picturesque childhood. And so it wasn't like my parents were beating me at home. Well, there are people who have that situation. So I shouldn't feel impacted by my trauma, right? It's different than what they went through. But just because it's different, it doesn't discredit it. And I think that's where we like struggle with it is just because something has shifted you. And it's not as severe as we would say, like someone who goes to war. right? If they're in combat situations, the whole world would look at it and say, that's traumatic. But there are things that we go through that not everyone is going to recognize that what you went through is traumatic for you. That's okay. That's not their job. You don't have to have their validation to understand what's going on with you. But it's been looking at that situation and allowing God to come into it and bring that healing to you. Absolutely. I love that you brought that up because I think that's something that we, I mean, don't get me wrong. I think there's so much power in the tongue and being grateful for what you have. But I definitely think that we can definitely over emphasize, I don't know if that's the right word, but over-encourage gratefulness. And instead of validating, life is hard. And validating that like we've been through these things, right? And it comparison, right? I always say to people, comparisons the faith, joy because it is, right? We all have our own experiences in life and with God. I mean, regardless of if you're a Christian or not, we all have things that we go through. And I think I love what you said because I think it is so important to be able to recognize like, hey, I may have a different type of trauma, but it's still trauma. Yeah. One thing I love to talk to clients about is say you have like two water bottles, right? This is a great analogy for when we start to compare our trauma with someone else's. You can take one and poke a hole in it with like a thumbtack. And then you can take a knife and stab the other one. They're both still going to leak water. Eventually, if the hole is at the bottom, they will both leak out. They will become empty. And just because the one hole is bigger than the other does not mean that it's more severe or anything like that, you're still going to have the same outcome down the road if you don't fix it. And so instead of comparing it, realizing, okay, there are things that I've been through and I can work on that. I can allow God to come into that space and help me through. And when I'm choosing not to, because I'm trying to help someone else or, you know, things like that, it's it's going to impact you in another way too. It's building on top of the other things. And it's just like when we fly, you know, they tell us to put your air mask on first before you help someone else. And realizing that even if your trauma doesn't seem as severe, helping yourself is helping other people in a way. And a lot of times we don't see that. Yeah, absolutely. I think that's so important too. Like, it's almost like having Jesus is like a form of therapy in itself. Like, you know, like I feel you and I hear what you're saying, because I agree. I think like that's something that I've I've in myself have had to remind myself that if I don't take care of myself, I can't show up for for this. Like, I can't show up and do my purpose, right? So I think that's so important to make sure that we're resting. And so actually, yeah, I was I'd love to get your your kind of belief and take on on kind of like how someone could learn to rest and uses when they when they're like working so much and they're like burning themselves out. Like, how do you find a balance of your work life balance with while resting in God? Part of that is making the time. How much time do we spend on things that don't matter? How much time do we spend scrolling on our phones watching TV? Things like that. And then we'll sit there and we'll say, I'm so tired at the end of the day, I've had all these things to do. And then what do we do? We go and we turn on the TV. Is that helping you? Is that filling you in any way? Because, I mean, don't get me wrong. I love watching TV, right? I'm not saying that we shouldn't watch TV. But at the same time, if you're not giving yourself the same amount of time with God, he's how you're going to find that healing. He is what revitalizes your soul. And so go to him. Have that time with him and allowing him to come in and help you. A lot of times, you know, we kind of expect God to come in and just work. And I don't think we consider that he is not a forceful God. And if you are not ready or willing to do the work, he's not going to force you to do it. So you have to take a step back and see, okay, where am I playing a role in this? And that's hard for us, right? Like, see these things that are happening to us and we're like, oh, it's happening to me. Yeah, but how are you dealing with it? Because that also plays a role in your healing. Are you just allowing yourself to sit there and be like, oh, all this is happening to me, my poor life, you know, all these things, it's reframing your situation and allowing him to speak into it. That's so true. And it is, it's about putting, putting in the effort and also like I find that like sometimes also we kind of have to like learn over and over. I know I've made the mistake where I'm like, okay, when is enough going to be enough? Have I learned my lesson yet? Like, I speak, you know what I'm talking about? It's like, we were like, okay, have I learned yet? And am I tired of my own stuff? Like, well, and how many times do we do that? And we don't recognize that we're still doing these things. And then we sit there and we're like, oh, why am I still dealing with this? We'll have you change anything? Because if you happen, you're going to keep getting the same outcome. But we don't want to see that a lot of times. We want to see, oh, it has to be someone else's fault, right? It has to be, it's happening to me. Well, you play a role in some shape or form. Even if it's a small role, you play a role. And so what would happen if you started assessing from that perspective? Okay, even if it's like a small disagreement. Yeah. Yeah. You play a role. How did you respond? What was your tone? Things like that that we just don't think about. And how many times do we have a bad tone with God? You know, like when we have things that are going on and all we want to do is scream at him instead of saying, okay, God, what are you wanting me to learn from this? You're allowing it to happen. You could stop it if you wanted it to be stopped, but you're allowing it to happen. Why? Because if you're allowing it to happen, it's going to be for my good. That's what your word says. So let me stand on that. And instead of wallowing in it, let me see what you're trying to teach me. Because I don't know about you, but there are some lessons I've been through that I don't want to go through them again. Yeah. I feel like a girl me too. I've definitely been there. I'm like, no, like nothing. I'm down that road. Yeah, I don't really. I'm all good. That one, I don't need to learn that lesson again. Yeah, absolutely. And I think, okay, I have my next question because I'm really curious because I know like there's been times two where like I've struggled with this and this is something that I'm because I love what you said about like what are you trying to teach me? What do you do in a situation where where you've had like people come into your life as like claim to be Christians, but they end up kind of showing the opposite of a Christian life and like that you end up kind of almost ruining your trust with God. Like how do you navigate that kind of situation where people have come into your life and you've almost, it's made you lose faith. Like how do you, how do you hold a strong faith when people influence you in that way? So part of that is, and this is hard to say, I'm saying this to myself as much as to anyone else, but are you allowing those people to have more time in your life than you're allowing God? Because at that point of time, if we are truly leaning into God and leaning on his word and spending time with him, we know his character, we know his fruits, and you know, it's understanding, and this is, I'm going to use an example from yesterday. I lost an earring a few weeks ago, and it was an earring that I loved, but it was nothing special, right? And I was like, okay, God, this is the second time I had bought this pair of earrings. And I was like, clearly, you don't want me to have this set of earrings because I've lost one each time, and I'm not someone who normally loses things like that. I'm not that person. I'm very organized. And so I was like, okay, God, you know what? I'm not going to go get another one. Well, I dropped something on the floor and it rolled under my couch. And last night, I was trying to get it before my dog's got it. And I, Paul, under there, when I lost the earring, I was not at my house. I wasn't at my house. It was under my couch. The earring was under my couch. And I can tell you for sure that it was not lost at my house. And I was like, you know what, God, like you care that that was something that was so hurtful to me. And so if I look at that situation and I look at other situations in my life, are they showing your fruit? Because if they're not showing your fruit, that tells me about them. But I can trust your fruit because you've shown me your fruit. I feel like that was a long way to get back to that answer. But no, I love that answer. - Sure, that's so good. It's so, that's such a good reminder too. And I think, I think like something, I mean, I could talk about this for hours, but one thing the Lord is seeing me is about community and how like, I've had, and I don't wanna be the person that gossiped on my podcast. It's not what I'm trying to do, but I have had people push community onto me, and I think like my question to you is, is how has your church impacted you in such a place? Positive way, but also in a way that's not like, like, I don't know, I guess what I'm asking is like, have you ever had any like unfortunate experiences with people in the church, or have you been pretty like supported through your church? - So I would say yes and no. The church that I'm at right now is very supportive. The way that they do community is great, and I absolutely love the church. I think that's one thing that we do is, I remember the first Sunday I came, I already felt like family. And to me, that was a huge thing. I was like, okay, that speaks to their level of community. If I can feel that way as a stranger coming in. But I've also been through experiences where I mentioned earlier that I'd gone through bullying. - Hey friends, I wanna take a moment to tell you about a really special organization called Bears' Buddy's Animal Sanctuary. It's a sanctuary on Vancouver Island founded by veterinarian Dr. Kimberly Atkinson Spinks and her family, and their mission is simple. 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What they're reflecting to me is not what I know of you. And so that was something that I did have to like, battle out with myself of, okay, just because someone says they're a Christian, doesn't mean they're a Christian. And there's that Bible verse. And I can't think of what the actual verse is right now. But it's like, you will know them by their fruit. Okay, so that's one thing that God has really shown me is when you're choosing your community, pay attention to their fruit. Because people can say anything they want to say. But if you watch the fruit of their life, you'll see if they truly are rooted in Christ or not. And also praying, God, if these people aren't for me, remove them. Yeah. And meaning it, you know. And bringing in people who you want to bring into my life. God will provide a way if we just allow him to work. Absolutely, absolutely. I love that. Amen, sister. I love that. That's so good. I find to like, I will say I've probably met a majority of, like a lot of the people I've met that are so full of fruit. Are people like you and the people that I connected with on my podcast? And I think like I've tried to do community here and God's pulled me out of it. He's like, no, he's like, no, no, this is not for you. And so like, it's just, it's crazy how like people in your own town can be so, can reflect such a different Christ, like, can reflect a different fruit than the people that you meet online. Like it's what? Yeah. And thank you so much for saying that. I really appreciate that. But also, I think one of the things too is recognizing like, when we're going through that, there are, and this is something God has shown me, there were friends that I had that were good for a certain season of my life. But when God has called me up and called me up higher, not that those people are bad people, but I need people who are even in situations where the world might not seem like what God has promised is coming to pass. That I have those friends that are going to be like, listen, you're not listening to what the world says. This is what God has said. You're leaning on that instead of the people who, I think, a lot of times, we don't mean to, but we're like, did you hear him? Are you sure you heard him? You know what I mean? Like we have those people that can be in our lives. And it's not that they don't trust God. It's not that they don't believe in God. But there are sometimes when you work in different areas, there's a higher level of anointing. And I think a lot of that comes in ministry is people don't realize that ministry can be a very lonely place because of that. And allowing God to work in that and still find, you can still find people. But a lot of times I've noticed just like you were saying, like you find people on the podcast and things like that. Sometimes the people that God has in your life that become that community aren't necessarily the people that are closest to you geographically. Yeah. And just because of that, it doesn't mean that that relationship is any less than because the people who can battle with you when it comes to spiritual warfare and things like that, those are the people you want to hold tight to. And so many times we can forget that. I love that. That's so true. That's so good. I love that. That's and that's exactly what I've been learning to. Like, wow, like how is it that I'm becoming closer with people from online than my own, my own town, you know, so yeah, I love what you said. It's true. And definitely the lonely part. I've felt that a lot. Like I, you know, I most of the time, like my social life has changed so much. Like I'm not like I'm not out there in the in the community. I'm with my family sometimes and then I'm doing this and, you know, I have some friends. Like I have one particular friend that I connect with sometimes from my community, but like other than that, I don't really like, you know, it's God is calling me to something different. Right. So I think, yeah, it can get low, you know, especially when it's like when you have people from different parts of the world that you do connect on a better level. It's like, it's like, but then there's an opportunity to go travel. That's where you're like, you know what? I'm going to go travel. Right. I listen. I love to travel. Like, is that a bad thing? Oh, darn. I'm going to have to travel to go visit my friends. Okay. Sign me up. Yeah. Right. Totally. So what are you, what are you doing now? Like, like where are you at now with your journey? So recently, God has had me and I would, I say recently, it's been quite a few years now, but God's had me in counseling. And one thing that I've learned is that God allowed me to go through everything I've gone through so that I can train other people how to go through it. And how a lot of times when we look at stuff that's related to mental health and stuff like that and please hear me, I'm not saying that mental health is not a thing. Obviously, I'm a counselor. I believe in mental health. But a lot of times we don't look at the spiritual side of it. And we want to look at all the other things that, okay, are there medicines I can use? Medicines aren't bad, but a lot of times you might be on a medicine that you might not need. And that's not even just with mental health, but with your regular health. You know, are, are you taking blood pressure medicine, but you really could go work out instead of taking the blood pressure medicine. Does that make sense? I don't want to give it the impression of like saying that medicines bad or anything like that. Please don't hear me say that. But I just feel like there are so many times that we don't really assess what the true issue is that we're facing. And so if something is spiritual, how can we handle that without allowing that to kind of go over and take over more? Yeah. That does make sense. And I'm with you on that because I think, and it's also hard because like, how do you explain the spiritual side to someone who may not even be in touch with that side of themselves? Right? Yes. That's the hard part about it. That can definitely be a challenge. And, you know, as a counselor, I have clients who don't believe in that. The thing that's interesting to me is a lot of the things that we look at in the Bible. If you look. at what science is saying now? It backs it up. So like one thing the Bible talks about is focusing on gratitude and speaking gratitude, right? Did you know that the same part of your brain that does gratitude is what anxiety and depression comes from? So if you are worshipping and you're giving gratitude, your brain cannot have anxiety and depression in that second. Wow! Wow! It is not possible. And so like there are things like that that like science is backing up what God has said to us for how many years now? And what would happen if we just shifted in that? And looked at what he's saying because now we're seeing the evidence to back it up and people are like, oh this is a new thing. It's not really new. It's been around for a while. Yeah. We just haven't been listening. Or and we have more exposure now too, right? Yep. Yeah. Wow. That is so fascinating. Oh my gosh. Wow. You know, I love that you said that because something I noticed too is because something I've been trying to practice more is speaking life into who I am and stuff like that that God says I am and trying to. I find that when we like, I don't I believe that there is a level of manifestation in the Lord, just not the world. Like I believe that when you speak life and you speak what God is telling you over your life, you attract that. Like you bring that into your life and I think like it's there's so much power in the tongue. I did an episode on it too because it's like it's true. Like when we when we curse or when we say things that that may be like negative, we're bringing that into our soul and our spirit. Whereas if we actually speak like, oh, I'm worthy of God's love or oh, like I'm going to be I'm going to be doing this and I'm going to be doing that. Like you're attracting that energy to come back and and kind of like give you opportunities and bring you to that. So yeah. Well, and I think another key to is when we're speaking things that are in alignment with God's will, that's where it shifts to. You know, we can speak things over ourselves, but if you recognize what God has for you and so like if you have a promise that God has spoken over you or things like that, like holding onto it, but then also recognizing just because you're not seeing it manifest in the worldly realm, doesn't mean that God didn't say it or that it's not a promise. It just means not yet. Yeah. Yeah, I love that you said that because it's exactly what's going on with me right now. I just can't talk about it. Wow. I totally get it. I swear God was just speaking right into right there to me. It's like spirit to spirit. Yeah. Well, and it's so many times we do that, right? We discredit what God has said to us and things like that, but God doesn't change his mind. He's constant. And so if he has spoken something to you or about you, that's the truth. And so how would our lives shift if we held onto that? Wow. I love that you brought that up actually. I actually want to speak on this because I want to kind of because I want your opinion on this as well because I know that like when it comes to promises, I know there's a lot of people who may struggle with this too, but one of the things that I've without going into too much detail about the promise, there's there's been times where I've gotten so used to being let down in my life that I think I've waiting on God. I've almost gotten too comfortable with the weight that I don't that I've lost. I've lost. It's almost like I've lately I've been lowering my expectations. And that's something that I've been trying to work on is it's not that I don't believe in God's word. It's I've just gotten so used to waiting so long that it's kind of impacted my expectations. So like what's what's your take on that? So I totally agree with that. I in a season of waiting in different areas of my life and one thing that God showed me, I would say this verse, he pointed out to me like two years ago and it's numbers 23 19 through 20. And I'm going to summarize it because I know I'm not going to be able to quote it directly, but it's like God is not man that he should change his mind nor son of man that he should lie. So if he promises, he will fulfill is basically that second verse. And it's like what would happen when we start to doubt or we start to question if we started speaking and that's not the only scripture that says that in the Bible. Right? Let me be clear. There are others. What would happen if we looked at those verses and said, you know what? I'm choosing to speak that over my life. Instead of speaking that fear or that doubt, no, I'm going to quote this verse. This is what I'm going to stand on. Yes. Amen. That is great. That is that is. Yep. Yep. That's great advice. That is great advice. And I'm sure like I'm not the only one who's in that waiting season, right? Is there so many people that are also waiting on their promises? And I think it is. I think it's a battle between, well, I've just gotten so used to this that I don't believe it's ever going to happen. And I think that's the scary part. That's where we do have to like, if anything we got to rely on God more, right? That's what I've been trying to work on is I need to start doing that. Like exactly what you said. I need to start speaking more scripture over my life so that I don't sit there and wallow and get kind of caught up in the way even God has told me like you you've dropped your expectations of me. He said like you and it's like you can't do that. Like you have to have faith. I know it's hard, but it's like you've got to keep going. I'm like, I know Lord. But it's it's tough. It's yeah. I think another thing too that God really spoke to me recently is he said, look at the story of Noah, right? Like people had no concept of what he was doing where he lived. How many people came up and mocked him day in and day out as he was building that ark? What would have happened had he believe that? If he was like, you know what, you're right. It hasn't happened yet. It's been a few weeks. And I'm just going to give up. What would have happened? Probably not good things. Right. And so with that, that was one thing that God spoke to me. He said, are you going to allow those voices that don't understand to speak into my knowledge where I know what's going to happen? I promise that to you and I know that it will come to pass. Yet these other people, they don't know the future. They don't know what I have planned for you. You're going to allow them to speak louder into your life. It's like a radio. Turn them down and turn me out. Wow. I love that. Yeah. That's so good. That's so good. You're so wise. Oh my gosh. There's so many things like let's listen. We have covered so much today. I feel like there's going to be so many people out there who will be impacted by this because I think one of the things for my podcast is I'm trying to be as authentic as I can be without without obviously being overly revealing, right? But I think it's so important. We're just, we're disciples, right? We're supposed to be examples of Christ. And so I really appreciate everything you've said today. I think like you're you're awesome girl and I appreciate everything that you've said. And do you have any last words for the viewers? Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I would just encourage you to lean into him. I feel like a lot of times we can see things that are going on in the world around us. And our world is pretty crazy right now. But if you look at scripture, it's only going to get crazier, right? Like let's set that here. So if we lean into him, he's going to be what gets us through. He's going to be the constant. And so no matter what it is, if you're waiting for a promise, if you are just trying to understand what's going on in the world around you, lean into him, ask him for his advice, ask him for his help before you run to others. I love that. So good. So good. That's good advice. I'm going to leave a little thing for the viewers to. One thing that has helped me you guys is a Bible journal. Seriously journaling and talking to the Lord, a prayer journal. Some people even do prayer vision boards. That's a thing. Honestly, like writing your feelings down, it does change things. Like it helps a lot. And just also like, you know, if another thing I will bring up very brief too is if you're in a single season and you're waiting for your future spouse, start a diary, dear future wife future husband. Just start like talking and like doing a diary thing towards them, even if you don't know them or whatever, I think like that is a form of belief. It's a form of trusting God and being able to, it's a form of like manifestation. So I just wanted to add that. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. All right. Well, God bless you guys. [BLANK_AUDIO]