Mysterious $36 Billion AI SCAMMER, Dirtiest Influencer PSYOP & Chris Hansen | Julian Dorey

(dramatic music) - What's up, everybody? And welcome back to another episode. Oh, the Julien Dory podcast. I am, Julien Dory. - I'm Joey Devate there. - How you done? Joey Dev, you're going to seem prime time about Chris Hansen yet? - No, no, yeah, I'm getting there. - I'm getting there. - Yeah, yeah, I want to see this. - He's still a little banged up, right? - Just a little bit. - It's the world's longest flu. - Yeah, well. - Yeah, well. - I'm telling it's character. - Yeah, I do want to see it to get my thoughts before we go deep into it. Obviously, we had talked about it last month. When Chris went to go see the cut of it before it came out at A24, he ended up not seeing it there because they went to sign in it. They were making them sign an NDA, and he felt like it was signing away too much. We did later find out part of what was in that NDA is that he agrees in no way at any point in the future to sue A24 or anyone associated with the film for any information in there. So even just that alone, I understand why maybe that's standard for some other random schmo to be signing that in an NDA to go watch an early cut, but for the guy that the movie's about who they didn't consult on it with and didn't talk to anyone from his production team on, which is fine, that's their creative decision, to make him want to sign that and make it seem like a formality is a little off because it does seem like obviously he has a different idea on what happened during the time period where the movie primetime is gonna be taking place on them what they portrayed in the film 'cause he did go watch it when it came out. But Chris and I are gonna be doing a podcast. We've been talking about it for a few months originally when Chris came on episode 397 in March. He was like intrigued by this movie coming out and I had been thinking, man, it'd be kind of funny if eventually we could get like Chris Hansen and Robert Pattinson, a little big fan of, enjoyed he's a big fan of, in here at the same time, then obviously the whole snafu with the movie happened, so that's not gonna be happening. - Yeah, I don't think that, I don't think that's sex. - Would have been cool. - Yeah, would have been nice, would have been nice. - Would have been cool, you know, make peace not war, but that said, I do and I know Joe feels the same way. I wanna go see it myself to get an idea because sometimes things can also be separated where it's like they're doing some sort of entertaining take on something and they happen to use the names of people, which isn't always the best, but maybe the movie stands alone as well. I just wanna see how they framed it, because obviously, regardless of some of the style, sometimes people get into the mean modification of Chris Hansen and the style he has and shit like that, and it's funny because Dave and I will tell you, at least in our dealings off camera, he's Chris Hansen, at all times. - He is Chris, motherfucker. - Yeah, what happened when you answered the door when he came here? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, when I answered the door, I'm like, hey Chris, nice to meet you, I'm Joey, like thanks for coming and he's like, you know, most people get quite nervous when I'm knocking on their front door, and I'm just like, holy shit, he's exactly what I thought he would be like. - We took like one bathroom break too, remember that? And in the minute, like he took the call, he goes, hello. All right, so we're doing the sting Thursday at three. Okay, well that means we need to be ready, stand in one PM, no later, okay. - It's just like back and forth like this for like two minutes, I'm just like sitting there, like, all right, we ready, he goes, all right, I'll talk to you then. Okay, let's go. - You know, he's like, like he's all business with it, but the bottom line is there's no doubt Chris Hansen has done some amazing work over the years, exposing some really awful people in society. And, you know, people can argue with style on certain things, but like he also crafted it over the years to work hand in hand with law enforcement on it, and they've been able to make cases through that, which is more than we can say for some other people that do try to do this. - Yeah. - Some people do good work and like work with the law enforcement, and I've seen some of that work out, other people it sometimes feels like it's just for content, which, you know, Marianne Vancella are also laid out when she was in here, her issues with that, and I fully understand that. But like, Chris has done a lot of work over the years, and the thing you don't wanna see is something like that, turn the other way in the sense that he becomes villainized rather than more praised. Nobody's perfect. I'm sure there's certain things Chris would have done differently, maybe we can talk about that when he's in here for the second time, but like, you know, all in all, let's say Chris Hansen's been a nice net gain for society and the things he's done. So I'm gonna judge the movie on its own. Obviously it seems like Robert Pattinson just from a, from an impersonation perspective seems to have really gotten it down. I'm curious to see that play out for the whole thing. What I would hate to see happen is if this ended up being like the wrong movie at the wrong time, though, that was taking the wrong way and whatever be like, you know, villainizing the wrong side of it, like make no mistake about it. The villains in the story are the people who are abusing kids like this and showing up to these places, the Chris Hansen's things, and that should never get lost. And he's doing amazing work still on True Blue and, you know, with his channels on YouTube and everything and continues to do this to this day. So shout out to Chris, we will watch the movie, and then, you know, it seems like knock on wood, we're getting Chris in here, so we'll be able to talk about it. But other than that, I'm not gonna comment farther. I know a lot of people are saying shit online. Yeah, we'll see how this looks when the time is right. You see on this looks, right? We're gonna take a seat and see for ourselves. That's right, we'll see for ourselves. Yeah. So anyway, that said, joy, these days, these days, sometimes I just see some shit and I'm like, send the asteroid, right, send the great flood. Every day. Bring it, you know, like I strike me down too. I don't care. I'll go with all of it, because if you know, you know. But, you know, hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five star review. They're both a huge, you know, thank you. I don't know if there's any one person who epitomizes the, I don't know, the faltering of certain elements of our society, then that fucking Bonnie Bluebitch, you see her? Yeah, she's, she's, she's doing her thing, huh? Yeah, so we're gonna pull this latest video, he's already got it up. But, Bonnie Blue, if you don't know and if you don't know, good for you, I'm really sorry to like break your world right now and tell you about this thing. I know, what kind of person she is. But, Bonnie Blue and some other lady, Lily, Lily Phillips, I wanna say her name is, hope I'm getting that right. They went really viral. I think it was a couple years ago for being only fans, creators that, and I'm just reporting what they were doing, that we're trying to have competitions on how many guys they could fuck in like a 12 hour period and 24 hour period. It was disgusting. Like they, I think at one point, Joey Deve, there was some sort of competition or whatever, where they got to a thousand guys in a certain number of times. Yeah, so I think they kissed those numbers. They got close to those numbers is what I heard. And what's even just as gross is the fact that a thousand guys would show up so desperately to do this. Get in, get off, get out. Essentially with, I mean, this is the world we live in. This is the world we live in. But anyway, every time I've seen this lady talk, first of all, I, you know, maybe this is just me, I don't even find her attractive. I think she looks fucking weird, but that's just me. That said, the other one unfortunately is attractive. I did the lily Phillips girls is what a waste of talent. But every time I see this Bonnie blue chick, go all over the place and talk about this. She is so cold and so calculated and so money-grubbing and so materialistic and so completely like devilish about her attitude towards whatever it is she does. I don't even know what to call it. But what really just sent this thing over the top is when I heard and I guess this was about a year ago now that she got pregnant. So that poor fucking kid, first of all, I hope no one holds that against the kid. I hope childhood protective, child protective services, I guess in the UK where she's from, come and take the kid. And I say that as someone who's very against like the government getting in on family lives, but like the evidence on this fucking bitch, it needs to be considered. Because just when I thought the situation couldn't get lower after she birthed him and I guess then immediately continued to go about her ask a page. She was still out drinking and doing shots at the club and trying to fuck guys. I think she did, by the way, while she was pregnant with the kid. You know, so he's going to be sitting in a shrink's office when he's 15 and fucked up in the head somehow. I hope he's not. Or maybe or I'll become the next Harry Potter or he'll become the like the boy who like 100% of the family and be living under the stairs. 100% they'll be like the boy who lived, you know who somehow. You know who he came from that girl named Bonnie Blue. And that'll be the nursery rhyme they sing and then he becomes a magician. That poor kid. He'll be all right. But anyway, like, you know, if he's fucked up in the head at all, I hope he's not, but you know, if he is eventually, he's going to be able to be looking at video data representation of exactly where it was going wrong in the fucking central integration because of his. mother, but I hesitate to call her even that. She did technically birth him. But just when I thought I couldn't get lower, apparently, allegedly, and I genuinely hope that somehow this is some sort of like publicity stunt she's doing, I don't think it is. It appears to be real. Bonnie Blue put up for auction, what she should name her kid. I'm gonna let her explain this. We gotta turn up the volume there a little bit deep because this is a lower volume clip. - My auction's finished and 12.2 million. - 1.2 million. - 1.2 million. - I'm gonna be shouting at Betbowl across the playgrounds and I still don't know what Betbowl do. I don't confuse, like, should I contact them? Should I say thank you? Are they gonna be involved in my baby's lie? Or they're just gonna be because my baby's something called Betbowl? I hope your Betbowl reach out today because I have a appointment to my Westminster Red Show office to officially name my baby. I'm so sorry to say this is disgusting this is raid fate. We didn't knew from 1.2 million. - No. - Because I know I would. But then again, I still enjoy anyone money by opening my legs. If I hadn't opened him, I would have been asked to make this 1.2. Do you want to start off all the names? The second was Great Lava. That guy on Twitter, that's always just looked like the girls. Group project, that would have been - Group project. - And social services. - So good. - That's kind of right. - Good, I'd love all of them. Top G, that would have been quite funny. - Yeah. - Betbowl, I own 1.2 million up and I cannot wait to spend that money. Or maybe I was meant to spend that money on the kid. So I'm called the kid anymore. It's called betbowl and I've got to go 'cause Sunny's gonna feed betbowl. - You know, I've been very on record that like just personally, I'm not, I'm not a subscriber to organized religion. I do believe that a creator created all this and I'm pretty humble in the face of that. Like that's something I think we're all gonna have to answer for when it's all said and done. I don't know where, when, how, or why. But I think something's all powerful up there. And there is really something wrong when society does move completely towards materialism and money to the extent that they are willing to completely sell out everything starting with their bodies in pursuit of that as their God. And this is something that I have talked with religious scholars across the organized religions over the years where their ancient texts all warn against this directly, which means, I don't know, when I'm running that kind of data, it seems like they're all on to something with that. And there's no worse manifestation, I think is the proper way to put it than this fucking lady and the thing she says. Now some of the names there obviously are hilarious. And then you remember they're talking about a real human that she's gonna go down to the, you know, Westminster, wherever the fuck she said and name her kid these things. And now he's being named betbowl, which I don't even know, is that like a pretty good name? Pretty good name. Oh, you're so pretty good name. You think it's a good name? 1.2 million betbowl. It can't be real. It can't, is it real? I genuinely hope it's not, I can't be real. I genuinely hope it's not. Or like she'll name it and then like in six months from now she'll change it under the, you know, on the down low. Listen, whether or not that continues to make or a bad person obviously is as such. But it does, that's all said and done. But I genuinely hope that would happen and she'll change it to like Chris or something, like something normal, you know what I mean? Mike, Joe, Jit, something, but you see things like this and then you think about all of the ancient texts. I'm going beyond just to organize religion texts. One thing Joey Deef that ties almost all ancient texts together, all the way to Sumerians and everything, is a story of a flood. The great flood. The great flood. And there's some sort of story that is reflected in like a character like Noah who said two by two, bring all the fucking animals and shit except Bonnie Blue. Put them on the ship. My immediate family on there as well. The world has fallen. Everyone's fucked up. We're going to get on this boat. The flood's going to happen. We're going to survive and we're going to rebuild humanity. Are you letting Bonnie on that boat? Bonnie's not getting on that fucking boat. She's not getting on that boat. Noah is going to be upset with you. In fact, all right, so let's play this out, Joey Deef. If you and Bonnie Blue were the last two people on Earth and it was on you to continue the human race, would you? I'm doing it. You got to do it. Sadly, you're dead. Sadly, I think you have to. But here's the question. Of course you do, that's it. So now and again, this is strictly a hypothetical-- The Samson option. Strip. Well, hold that thought. Hold that thought. Hold that thought, Joey Deef. I'm going dark here for a minute. This is strictly a hypothetical YouTube, strictly a hypothetical. But if that society, which is comprised of two people, did exist. And then enough procreation happened. And then I don't know how to sibling on sibling thing goes for like the gene pool here. That's probably going to have to happen in this case. Just in the beginning. Yeah, that's a little beyond where I'm comfortable talking. But there's no laws. Do you push her off the cliff once it's set and done? Just for like the good of the future. Do you do it? It's a hypothetical. It's a hypothetical. Do you do it? That's a lot of money lost, though. What do you mean money lost? There's no money. We had a few of the economy. There's no-- no, no, no, no. There's no money. We're going to procre that. You already did the deed several times. You have multiple girls and boys. And now you know-- No, no, no, I'm not going to. You're not going to do it. No. I think there might be an unfortunate trip over that cliff. I'm not in judgment of that. That's-- yeah. I just think me personally. No, I don't think I will. Good for you, Joey Deef. Yeah. Good for you. I might-- you know what? The better way to say it is I wouldn't discourage it. Yeah. Like if she got really down on herself, I might be like, yeah. And you're like, yeah. It's not getting better. Yeah, you might as well. Yeah. Yeah, I'll just be over here. You let me know if you change your mind. Yeah, see it through. Yeah, not a great-- certainly not a person you want to be stuck on an island with at the end of humanity, for sure. But you know, you think about, Joey Deef. Well, I mean, listen, if she was ready to go with 1,000 guys in 12 hours and you know, we got to get-- we got to get civilization booming again. I don't know. You know, let's put all of the societal norms and the constructs out of our heads for a second. And let's just talk-- let's just talk biology for a minute. You know what I mean? Let's get scientific. You think in that assembly line. So you're going from leak-ronen's assembly theory to assembly line theory. Yeah, oh, that's crazy. That's some crazy work. Those first few generations are going to be crazy, dude. I don't think that's where Lee saw that evolving, too. No. I don't know if Lee can see anything, honestly. I'm kidding. Yeah, no, he can see a few things. He can see something. That wasn't one of them. Yeah, and it wasn't-- all right, yeah, you're right. That's right. Side note, one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life, I don't know if I said this on an episode yet. So I want to make sure we put this on the record, because it might have been the end of an episode. We did it, so we're more towards the beginning of this one. Not a lot has funnier-- not a lot funnier has happened in 2026 than when we were sitting at dinner with leak-ronen after we recorded with him. And Joey Deef asked leak-ronen why Peter Tiel is so shiny. To which I said, because he's covered in come. And that's all right. And that's his choice. That's his choice. I said it with a stray face. That's his choice. That's his choice. And leak-ronen's head went in the stake. Yeah. From just-- I don't even know if it was laughter yet. I think that had to set in about 10 seconds later. It was just-- because it was in the middle of a rather serious part of the conversation that night, which there wasn't a lot of that. We were just laughing a lot at the time. But it was like rather serious and deep, very seriously. He's like, well, you know why? So shiny, right? That's true. It's covered in come. I would love to tell Peter that you should tell him that. That would be cool. You should tell him that. I think it's a life sport. It's a lifestyle decision. Yeah, it'd be a good sport. You think it'd be-- He literally would look at me and be like, oh, the guy-- the shine my shoes is here. And I'd be like, oh no, that's not what I'm here to do, sir. Yeah, be careful with that language. Yeah, I know, right? When you're around a guy like that, that could mean a lot of different things. Yeah. But Joey Deef is doing the assembly line with Bonnie Blue. Yeah. In this scenario. Yeah, I mean, there we go. I respect your fortitude for the future of humanity. I really do. Well, we got it. We got to keep going. You got to keep going. Or it's going to be Elon's world. Now, do you have to close your eyes and imagine it's someone else? No. It's for no. You're just going to-- We'll just get done. It's for signs. A nice and reasonable one for signs. For signs? Yeah, it's for signs. Well, as I was saying, the ancient texts-- Yeah, the Great Flood. The Great Flood, right? It's shown over and over again when humanity is falling. And naturally, I do think about that a little more and how it can happen. So in the simulation theory of life and how some things are going right now, it's rather interesting that after all this time-- thousands of years, to be exactly-- it appears that maybe-- just maybe-- some archaeologists, researchers, [BLANK_AUDIO] historians, a mix of whatever this team is comprised of. Things that perhaps, they have found the final resting place of what we know as Noah's Ark itself. I shit you not, this is a real story. Did you hear about this, or is this the first time? - No, I did, but it's the perfect year to discover these types of things. - Yes, almost like we're mentally preparing for, I don't know, like the event. - The events. - The events, right? Can you pull up the second link, Joey Deef? This has got the full article with the details for people. - Noah's Ark. - This is, the headline says, Noah's Ark resting place, quote, "100% confirmed," unquote. After 4,300 years as huge discovery made. According to the Bible, the massive vessel saved humanity in every kind of animal from every single one, Joey Deef. That's crazy. From annihilation during a catastrophic flood, experts now say they have found a formation. Let's go down. - Isn't that cool? - I give people the details. - To open an article with, yeah. According to the Bible, here's the news. - Right, the Bible, news, hello, perfect. The remains of Noah's Ark have supposedly been confirmed and found after remaining a mystery for hundreds of thousands of years. Experts say they have found a mysterious boat shape formation that some researchers believe could be the remains of Noah's Ark high in the mountains in Turkey. According to the Bible, the massive vessel saved humanity in every kind of animal from annihilation and chronologies that placed more than 4,300 years ago. Now experts believe that they have quote, 100% confirmed, unquote, the find. They believe the mound is not a natural geological feature, but instead quote, a man-made object, unquote, which has been located in Dura Pinar formation near Mount Arat. I do have to say, and I remind me, I gotta talk to Matt LaCroy about coming in early next year. I keep forgetting to do that, but Matt's been on the show a bunch and Matt's done some extensive work on the ground himself in Turkey. So Matt's a great guy, cares a lot about ancient history. I love hearing him talk sometimes. He goes a little far on some stuff, but when it comes to some of the things that are being found in the structures and the stuff in Lake Vaughan in Turkey, like some of his work there, to me, is really, really, really impressive and I highly recommend people check that out. But Joey, you have this image up for people, right? So they can see that right now. - Oh yeah, that, everything reminds me of her, you know? - That's just, you took the words out of my mouth. - That is, that's a mussy. - We found the clitoris. - That's a mountain, that's a mussy. - Yes. A mussy. - Yeah. - You just come up with that now? - Yeah, just now. - That's pretty good. - Yeah, it's mountain, mussy. - That's good. - Mountain mussy. - Yeah, mussy. - Okay, let's go down second. Keep giving the scientific details. They used laser technology and radar surveys to look into the area and say they found structural layers, straight lines, right angle intersections and large cavity-like spaces at multiple depths which suggests something man-made had once laid there. The researchers also claimed their high-tech scans show potential chambers. Chamber of secrets down there, Joey. Corridors and tunnels along with a thick underground layer dividing into three parts, a feature that compared to God's command and Genesis for NOAA to build the arc with three ducts. Imagine you're finding something and you're going through these hardcore scientific lidar surveys and looking at the scans and figuring out the structure and then turning to Genesis and you're like, oh yeah, matches up. - Yeah. - That's gotta be some next-level shit. - It's gotta be pretty crazy, yeah. - Now they are searching to see if they can find any traces of decayed wood to further substantiate their claims. There's more. So there's this kind of a side profile. Independent researcher Andrew Jones, the founder of NOAA's arc scans, right to the point on that name, has investigated the area for nearly 30 years. He said neither the radar surveys nor drilling conducted inside the formation detected limestone or solid bedrock. - That's interesting. - Okay. - The expert added, this destroys the theory. The site is a solid limestone block shape into it. This destroys the theory. The site is a solid limestone block shaped into a boat by glaciers and weathering after coming down the mountain side. And it also refutes the theory that this is bedrock around which mud flowed to form the shape. I firmly believe the Deripnar formation represents the buried remains of NOAA's arc. The research team recently drilled into the formation, collecting samples that may contain vital evidence and is the latest hunt to find the elusive formerly mythical boat. That is fucking wild. The first major radar survey in 2019, detected linear and angular anomalies. The team interpreted as possible walls, passageways and separate compartments, a deeper investigation conducted in 2026 by Dr. Kostro Baktar used an advanced radar system developed through US Air Force research and found massive layered reflectors, underground boundaries that bounce radar signals back towards the surface as well as what the team interpreted as sediment filled cavities in the same area. Five prominent anomalies appeared to form a possible tunnel system extending across roughly 151 feet with an average structural height of over 14 feet. How tall is an elephant? So if it was 14 feet. How tall is it? Like an African elephant. I wanna make sure I have it exact and African elephant. Fits 13 feet. That's max, yeah. 13 feet max, which means 14 foot ceilings would fit the elephant, the largest mammal on earth. Wow. We out here find in biblical shit, Joey Death. That's all they're Asian. I don't know whether it'd be excited or scared. Asian elephants? No, they're a little shorter. Asian elephants are shorter, they're smaller. Just a bit. Yeah, the heads are also shaped differently. They have a different tusse formation, I think, too. Yeah. But you can get the full-blown African elephant on there, which would make sense. 'Cause then if it's 4,300 years since this one, that's also not that long a time from an evolution perspective, you know what I mean? I like how they're just saying 100% confirmed, they're really confident. Yeah, the confidence worries me a little bit because when you're making a claim about one of the ultimate secrets of ancient text, and you're just like, it's 100% and we haven't even technically taken it out of the cavity yet. Probably should back off that a little bit. That's what I mean. We run too far with this. But that certainly looks very, very suspect. And as I said, even looking at gobekli tepi in Turkey, Turkey for some reason is one of those places where like, yeah, lots going on and also archaeologists and the whole archaeologist industrial complex, love telling people to shut the fuck up and not look here. And they love saying, no, nothing to see here when someone finds something objectively crazy. Like when we had Hugh Newman in here, that episode came out in January. Yeah. You know, some of the stuff he's been finding in Turkey. Like again, interpret it as you will, but like you can't look at these structures and the different formations and not say, this shit is crazy and old as fuck. Yeah. I just, that's one of the strangest things, Dave, that I've seen firsthand doing this podcast for a lot of years now and having some cool people working on archaeological digs in here. One of the strangest things to me from like the academic perspective where there's a lot of strange shit, obviously, is the complete ivory tower around trying to find new ancient discoveries in history. It doesn't mean every time you find something including this story, we just read like, "Oh, that definitely means that we have to rewrite everything." Like, yeah, you don't want to run too far with it. But like, test these things out. Stop being like, no, this has decided science. When, from 1845, Royal England, making a declaration on Egypt? Yeah. Like, I feel like we've come a little farther with technology than to, you know, since then to make some new conclusions here, no? No, I agree. Got to challenge it. We've got to challenge it. But, you know, whether it's Bonnie, Blue, billionaire's fucking raping kids on islands and shit, whatever, whatever, you know, the soup, the sure of holy shit, send the asteroid is. When we start finding some things like the Great Flood Remnant, hard not to ask some tough questions there, Dief. Yeah, I agree. Right? They're just getting ready to soften the blow. They're getting ready to soften the blow. And maybe on the way to softening the blow, Joey, Dief. Maybe on the way, they got to make sure that we're not all like on to this. So, you know, I don't know where you guys are watching this right now. I know a lot of you watch on your phone, which we already know spies on us and stuff. But if you're watching us on a TV right now, particularly on an LG TV, listen up real quick. And then I'm going to have some details on this, including some denials from LG. But here we go with a little video. We're going to give you the dates right after this. This LG G5 TV has a microphone connected to it. And right now, it's listening to me and saving the information. In fact, that's nice. We can even unplug the network. Unplug it. Yeah, it's still listening to me. And what I'm saying is being stored right over by someone with remote access to the TV. And then we were able to actually that recording via vulnerabilities after the use. Are we connected to the network? - We've been making facts. We've been in front of the project at a certain age. - No network? - That can be stored by all remote accesses. - This helps. - You know how we were talking about AIs escaping the sandbox? - Yeah. - Now they're putting us in the sandbox. - Yeah, it's good. - Not, no, I mean, they've been doing it. But like, at a time where the technology, humans are inventing is breaking out, they're calling us in. So, I'm gonna start with the article down lower, deep, 'cause that's the update. We're gonna come back to it. That's the original story right there. So, this is September 8th, the original story, and then September 10th is the response from LG. So, we're gonna be balanced and give both, and then I'll kind of give my thoughts, 'cause this was fascinating. There's some semantics here. Let me just explain it, then we'll get into it. So, TV brands tracking user activity to serve targeted ads isn't a new phenomenon, but the extent of private information they allegedly collect may worry some TV owners. In an investigative video published on Monday, gamers nexus claims the TVs from one of the world's largest and most popular brands, LG, can eavesdrop on users' conversations, even when the screens are turned off. The investigation was carried out with level one text in other independent researchers, and the resulting video is nearly 135 minutes. In the video, gamers nexus says that while most TV brands collect your viewing data for their automated content recognition systems, LG goes beyond the basics to collect valuable pieces of information such as your location, IP address, names of nearby Wi-Fi networks, and the names of all devices connected to the same network as your TV. TV, they just wanna know what you're doing so they can look in on your safety. - Yeah, and they wanna be able to let you know what product you need. - That's right, that's right. They are trying to serve you. I don't know what the day is for us. It is, we are the product. It's all for us. ACR comes enabled by default on most new TVs. So you don't, it's defaulted in, remember that, okay? The program logs your viewing habits and sells that data to any third party company that would like to know them. This is where Mike Yegley also comes in a little bit. It's reminiscent. Mike Yegley, we had on episodes 343 and 351. His whole thing, and I highly recommend them. He's very, very intense and entertaining because of that intensity. He's like, remember that baby? He's like, yeah, we're fucked. - Totally intense. - Just like three and a half hours that. But Mike Yegley was where is a data amalgamation researcher. I'm making up that term, but let me explain what that means. He got really good at working with large public data sets to be able to get market research, meaning figure out what data on you and me are to that brands can use. And as that technology was progressing when 2010 rolled around 2011, 2012, he suddenly started to look at it and be like, wait a minute, sitting in my fucking office five feet from my bedroom. I can use perfectly legal public tools to go get all this information on all these people. And this is the fastest growing silent industry filled with companies whose names you've never fucking heard of. And he's like, huh, that seems kind of little anti-constitutional. So then he goes and he tests this out on a major US base. It was four, was it Fort Dixon, Carolina? - Yeah. - That was what it was. - Yeah. - And so what he did is he was, again, with perfect, he bought data that was publicly available, nothing illegal, whatsoever, and tracked all his work so he could show this later. I'll get to that in a second. But he bought data and he started tracking these cell phones around Fort Dixon. I wanna make sure we have that, right? Can we just Google, there's a Fort Bragg? It's one of them in Carolina. - Right, Fort Bragg. - It's the big one in Carolina. So I'll, when he finds that. - Yeah, it's Fort Bragg. So he starts to look through all these different iPhones that he's tracking for data marketing purposes. That's what it would be if he were doing it for real. This was just a personal experiment he was doing. And eventually, he finds a subset of them that would drive to this neighborhood that's 45 minutes away and he could track them down to the address. And even before he looked at the names on that address, which a lot of that's publicly available, they hadn't checked on that, he immediately knew that all these people living in this enclave area were from a higher level of the military because the income levels you would need to afford the mortgages on these homes were not what a standard person in the army would ever be able to afford. And they were farther away from all the local army housing and everything. So he then puts all those phones into a basket. He gets all the data on who they all are. He's then able to track everything. Their family members are doing and all that just for shits and gigs. But he then watches these same iPhones, get on planes and fly over to Syria where they set up under some French fucking front, a cement company called Lafarque or something like that and watches them use that as a base clearly for a clandestine mission. So he takes all this data, he don't give it to anyone, obviously. And he goes to the government and says, yo, fellas, y'all got a fucking problem. You want to hear about your latest, he didn't say what part of the military it was. So I'm going to say maybe it's like Delta Force or Army Rangers or maybe even something that involves, yeah, maybe even something that involves the Green Braser. One of them. He's like, do you want to hear about their latest fucking undercover mission and where they all are right now? And he puts live trackers up on the screen and this presentation and shows then the genesis of him getting all that and says, yeah, if I can do this, you think they can't do this in fucking China right now, you think they can't do this in Russia, you think they can't do this in Ukraine, Iran, anywhere. And so he raised this whole point that like, everything we're doing from the phones and then the Bluetooth centers that we're connected to and the things that we constantly have access to technologically. Of course, we know they're spying on us, but like the level to which Ocent, meaning like publicly available intelligence can even if they have to purchase some of it can get access to all that and put it together is insane. So now try to extrapolate that to the government. Also as a side note, by the way, Mike Yegley was tracking phones in 2019 to fucking Epstein Island looking at data from like 2016 and 2017, I think it was. And you know, like he had Bill Gates' phone and he explained like how he had the data on that schmails schmates, you know rhymes with schmails schmates. And like that's just a guy in his office bedroom, their bedroom office doing it, which kind of crazy to think about. But all that to come back to this story because TV something normal, you think is off or even when it's on, it's not listening, taking any data, no one can get access to that, apparently not. So ACR as I said comes to enable by default on most new TVs. On LG's ad solutions website, the company says it's ACR technology can help advertisers reach 49 million LG smart TVs in the US and nearly 216 million smart TVs globally. According to the video, what's more concerning is that LG also knows about 363 million secondary devices, phones, computers, iPads, et cetera, which may include smart phones connected to the same network as the TV. As part of the investigation, those at Gamers Nexus were able to extract the names of the secondary devices. That's nice. As well as transcripts of private conversations, people were having around the LG TV and you saw a quick video demonstration of that with it unplugged. So unless they're using total slate of hand and completely lying to you in a very public 135 minute video, I'd say that even if they don't have the full picture, they're pretty on to something here. So let's scroll back up, Dave, to what you had originally because this was LG's response, which spoiler alert, it was basically like, yeah, no fancy here. Don't worry, we're not doing nothing wrong. Just trust us. But they said LG has the nine allegations made by a gaming site that its smart TV eavesdrops on users even after the screen is turned off. Interesting that that's also some language put there. Even after the screen is turned off as if that's what they're saying, well, when it's turned off, it's fine. But when it's on. So anyway, the claims made in the recently published video are not true, LG tells CNET, LG's TV's process voice data only when the voice button on the remote control is pressed and held, or when a wake word such as high LG is recognized after the user has activated the far field voice recognition feature. I wonder by the way, Joe, if that includes, like, if I turn on the TV, right? And I activate the voice feature. And I say, go to ESPN. If now, once I've done that, and the TV's active, and the remote is activated, if that means it's on now. So long as the TV's on, meaning like it stays. And what they said there, then, technically, sleigh-to-hand language wouldn't be a lie. I think that's what they're doing. OK. The video, Joey Dief is on the record. He thinks that's what they're doing. So he's going to check that case out some more. I'm sure. The video in question was published by Gamers Nexus on Monday. The team claimed by extracted transcripts of conversations captured by the TV's microphone, and added that the device logged information Bye bye. connected to the network. LG says, quote, it's TVs do not collect a record ambient conversations. On the second point, LG says, the ability to scan for and connect to nearby devices on the same network is a standard function, commonly provided by smart TVs and smart home devices. I'll bet they're right about that, by the way, to be clear. But like, then these are problems. Wider here. Let's go down. In any case, if you're uncomfortable with LG using your activity data for its automatic content recognition program, which helps advertisers serve targeted ads, you may turn off a setting called live plus. And this, if you guys have an LG TV, listen to this head to settings, general system, advanced settings, live plus. But like, we know how weird it is now that like my phone, which is locked right now. If I say the word, I don't know, put something random. No, Joey DeFi, I, someone was talking with me earlier about like a Neutrogena skincare product. So I think I'm going to go buy one of those. I'll bet later tonight, there's going to be an ad now for like Neutrogena. Oh, yeah. You know, yeah, you guys out there all have this experience where you like, no, I did not type that in the phone at all. I didn't say that even when the phone was unlocked, it was just sitting in the room and now it's serving me shit. It happens to me when I just think about it sometimes. That's the creepy one. And I've been testing myself on that because it happens to me too. And then I try to remember like, have I, because I'm thinking about something, have I said that? Yeah, subconsciously, right? Yeah, it's tough. But like moral, the story, we're using, we're giving obviously all our assets around us up to be able to be data points. And when you see that in context with, you know, the current administration completely enabling AI companies to, and you know, surveillance companies to ramp up surveillance techniques via flock cameras, axon cameras, all these other companies, obviously behind it as well that we've seen explode since the Trump administration came in especially. And then you see also like them using the Trojan horse of, I don't know, like no Kings protest to test out things that Palantir is using for predictive policing and shit that's straight out of movies. Then you consider what we all have at home. It's like, man, that privacy is feels very gone. And it feels like it's been given to us in a world of convenience to where we, we almost in some ways to keep up with everyone else. I haven't had a choice, but to check out of that, which seems obviously like a rigged system. But I don't know, man. Yeah, I don't feel great about it. I don't feel great about it at all. So check your TVs. Yeah. That's, that's kind of the smash your TV. Smash your TV. That's right. That's the official policy of Joey Deve. Take your TV and smash outside. Take the Louisville slugger out. Smash. Yeah. And then stick it in the dumpster and make sure they take it away. And they don't buy a new one. You can get one of those big, big fat TVs that we used to have, you know, like the big boxy ones. Yeah, like where the back is really heavy and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's, you talk about not convenient. We just got to get back to basics. That's the problem. We do have to get back to basics on certain things. And like there's, there's some trends within Gen Z where they want to be more analog. I like on some things. I like that too. I think, I think getting outside and touching grass quite literally. Not a bad thing. Not a bad thing. I read a study or not a study. It was a fucking tweet. So who knows if this was real? Maybe we can actually, but I just thought of it. There was some sort of study that came out, which can mean a lot of things that people born between the ages of between the years 1992 and 2003 had the most unique childhood. And when you think about that, 2003 is a little long in the tooth, I think, but like that range makes sense because those are the ages. And I'm in that range. And you're in that range too, Joe. To where at some point in your childhood, when you had the ability to formulate behaviors and make memories, we lived in a world that wasn't completely reliant on iPhones. And even at some point, if you're born in '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, you remember a world where smartphones weren't everywhere too. And people weren't just cramed in their phones texting and letting that run their life. And there was physical cash at places commonly. And people, kids went outside after school and played. You know, it was even, you can remember a world kind of pre Xbox 360 where you're on the headset. You know, it was like more, hey, if we went inside, we played PlayStation 2, NBA Street Volume 2 or Madden or something like that. And then went outside and did it physically with a football. Yeah. You know, play man hunt. Yeah. Did you find anything on that study? No, it's not a real study. Damn. It says it's based off the viral social media post. Damn it. See, they got me. That's why, but, but I agree. It is unique in the sense that like, I was a beast that like using the computer, but I wasn't on the computer all the time. Like I still like rode my bike and played man hunt. It's a balance. It did shit like that. Yeah, yeah. It's a bad. That's how this weekend showed that that was the genesis of this. Joey Dief checked out the internet for like a month. Yeah, honestly. Tell me about the Epstein files. I got it. And here we are again soon. Honestly, I'm starting to feel it. It's on a way on me. It is, I noticed that like when I can have, when I get my work done on Sundays and like, then I'm just letting the wash go in the late afternoon, when I can have that Sunday reset of like, just read in a book on the candle or something like that. And the phone is just a way and the one time a week where I'm not looking through content and shit like that and looking through video edits with Danny or going through production schedule or setting up thumbnails or all that shit like my Monday morning is much more. Yeah, fucking like jump out of bed. Let's go like I did that yesterday in this morning. I was fucking ready to go. And there I'm sorry. I don't have to look at science. Neither does anyone else out there. You know what I'm talking about is just it has to do with like neuroplasticity and everything and your brain being active on something that's not just feeding it bullshit all the time. Yeah. We got to stay with that. So good, good on seeing some of the trends of Gen Z really working on that, which I'm sure means I shouldn't say I'm sure. I have a feeling that we'll see maybe even some bigger trends of nostalgia for things that never existed for them in Gen Alpha that's coming up who are completely growing up in a world that is fully encapsulated by iPhones and screens. Yeah. And if they'll be curious about a world where, you know, they can have some time to not do that. Yeah, we'll see. And then you got a fight against it. You saw that fucking get together in DC this weekend. You know, I'm talking about the data center get together. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you got shit like that, which is just like you want to talk about being disconnected. A bunch of fucking political executives or whatever you want to say, skewing towards younger ages, congressional staffers type people and stuff like that, gathering in the biggest cesspool in America known as Washington, DC to have a brand and also think tank sponsored fucking rager. Air quotes there over like building more data centers. I watched a few of the, and I actually knew a couple of people that went to that. So we're going to be getting a phone call from me. Say at least one of them is. But like, I watch some of the videos from this event and, and, and I watched them a couple of times because I was certain I'm like, that has to be a troll. That can't be real. And then I watched them a couple of times through. I'm like, no, they're dead, they're a little hammered, but like they're dead serious to be clear. Okay. I understand. Like, I'm on YouTube. I'm on Spotify. I understand like data centers have existed. And you know, things like this are literally stored on stuff like that. I'm not one of these guys that like, none of these should exist. We should totally get off the internet and shit like that. We should be able to innovate. We should be able to do things that, you know, allow America to also be like a leader in things where I take issue with stuff like this. And it's a very reasonable conversation is that suddenly they are looking to build hundreds of these monstrosities overnight immediately, far past, far, far past the supply that China is, who also has a bigger population than us, taboo, far past that to where people are building it. And obviously the stereotypical one was the proposed 62 square mile one, the Kevin O'Leary belt. But they're building these things out in nature, completely taking away from America's like natural assets, if you will. Fucking over the water supplies that the same people were lecturing us on about climate change for the last two decades by the way. And they're going to be lent and they're going to be leased out to like the worst tenets of big tech, the open AIs, the volunteers and shit like that. Who know? I don't trust with my data, right? Like the obviously they have they have failed a lot of these tests and they're being shoved down on people's roads to the point that basically money. Money is coming in and influencing two or three fucking councilmen in certain places who vote behind closed doors while they're claiming to represent the people to say, yeah, bring in a data center. That's also bringing no jobs and sucking up all the resources. So yeah, I do have a problem with the extent of that build and to see a bunch of congressional staffers who are probably all fucking each other. Good for them. I don't judge. God bless America. You know, gathering in a bar and DC sponsored by think tanks to fucking drink the night away and say, let's build more AI because we got to beat China, which you've heard me talk about in the last episode, by the way, I keep the China thing in the back of my mind for sure. But like, this is not the way. And it is certainly another example of like as someone who is literally from the coast my entire life. I am born and raised in New Jersey. So are you Joey Deef? Yes. This is a prime example of the quote unquote like coastal elite thought process versus the rest of America. And the coastal elite people in, you know, a city somewhere like Washington, DC, if you even want to call it that are deciding that they know best and shut the fuck up. And it's the young people doing it. That really left it. It's like, it's like dude, you like I'm seeing 23 24 25 28 year olds there, all fucking shilling this stuff. I'm like, that's what you're doing. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool to them. They rock the Palantir gear and shit. Yeah. It's, well, Joey Deef, it's gay is why I mean, I agree. And I just too much too fast, too much too fast. And I'm never going to apologize for saying, let's chill on it again, it's a balance. You know, for us to have certain conveniences in life like, yeah, you can have them. But you know what? As someone who like lives in Hoboken right by New York City, build, build some of the shit in the city or something. And I live here. And I'm not even advocating for that. But I'm like, do that before you build it in the middle of some beautiful fucking mountain range. Yeah, I mean, they, they, I'd rather see them destroy like 42nd Street and build a data center there. Yes. I say it all the time, like, like, sucks there. Yeah. I don't, I don't want to see like these pictures as places totally blown up, you know? And yeah, there was, they should run the data centers, all the people who attended that party should have to run the data center. So then when like, it starts to go south and the robots start like screaming that they want to kill us all, they got it, they got to be our front line. That's right. That's right. So they can, they can put their money where their mouth is. And I think that's right. That's right. I think that's right. I think to do that, I'll change my opinion on them. Yeah. I'll change my opinion because they, they, they will, they will bravely sacrifice themselves to save, try to save humanity. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's fair. I see that. I think that's fair. That's the script writer and you're looking at the villain hero arc. I like that. It's honestly just the business man and me the business cause, you know, because it's just like let's just do good biz. You guys want to ruin the world? All right. For your first line of defense. Great. You're right. But yeah, I did, I did have some good conversations with some people I'll find, including some people I know who were, you know, agree with me on a lot of the, a lot of the issues we talk about on this show. But they were like some of the data center stuff feels like it's also like just total anti technology. And I was like, no, no, no, no, it is, it, it's about the, the semantics of how this is happening, the speed and the people doing it and us all right justly having a real problem with that to be a check to the balance and say slow the fuck down. And who are we giving this power to? Yeah. And why is Kevin O'Leary, you know, the fucking Shark Tank guy investing in Utah so that he can sell off, you know, the least space to fucking Peter Teal. Like yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to be like hit the chill pill on that. And I'll make no apologies for that. Which by the way, Kevin O'Leary is still an open invite. You're more than welcome to come on. I think he did decline, it's fair to say Joe, but he's a coward. I liked him. I like him in Marty Supreme. I liked him in Marty Supreme. He did a nice job there. I'll give it a shot, dude. He did crush it, dude. He did crush it in that film. He did crush it in that, you know, you got to call it like you see it. He should do more acting and less data centering, yeah, just a food for thought, you know, like that I could get behind the acting, it was, it felt like he was kind of playing himself a little bit. I don't know if that's a compliment, but, you know, certainly knocked it out of the park. Well, well, four and a half gold stars. But Joey deep, there is a story I've been, I've been waiting, waiting with Bated Breath to get to this one. It's just a story that went really under the radar, like talk about script writers. You couldn't make this one up and I haven't told you about this one yet. You're going to find out about this for the first time. But if you heard about this guy and let me just make sure I pronounced this correctly, which means I'm definitely not going to, Leopold Ashenbrenner. The German. The German. Yes. You haven't heard about him. But let's, let's talk about Leopold, because right now Leopold is still running a multi-multibillion dollar AI-themed hedge fund. But there's a lot more to this story that is very incestuous as well, you might say. So Leopold Ashenbrenner definitely not retarded, I'll give him that. He's reckless very clearly, but he's not retarded. He went to Colombia and was devalued Dictorian graduating at age 19. So I have to say, he's definitely got a brain up there to be able to do that, props to him for that. But, you know, I think sometimes Joey Deef, especially like if you may be smart on the IQ scale, but you're young and then you're also like kind of head of the curve. So you get a real big head about it, which he does appear to have a pretty big head. But you know, I think sometimes that can put you in a bad position, especially when you're even younger than you're supposed to be getting out of college to make some really dumb decisions or even maybe think you know how the world works before you actually get a chance to find out. You think it's probably fair? I think that's fair, yeah. Yeah, it's fair. That's fair. So Leopold comes out of college, not the closet. And you know where he worked, Joey Deef? Oracle. It's worse. It's right. It's actually way worse, it is significantly worse than that. I'm going to give you a hint. I'm going to give you a hint real quick at Columbia and I'm reading this part straight from CIA pedia while at Columbia. He co-founded the university's effective altruism chapter. You remember that movement? The effective altruism, so FTX. He did work in FTX, but I'm going to get to the deeds of that in a second. But effective altruism is like this weird fucking fake psychedelic-y, you know, not like actual psychedelic-y, but like they feel important movement that was emanating out of Silicon Valley especially in the arts and the 2010s where all these like kind of autistic Silicon Valley types were talking about using technology that serves humanity to potentially be the best. Can you actually pull up the definition of it just so people fully understand, so I explain it correctly. But it was essentially like hiding more, hiding keyboard tyranny behind the mask of morality. That's how I would describe it. But effective altruism is a philosophical and social movement that uses evidence and careful, it's not just reasoning, it's careful reasoning to find the most effective ways to help others and maximize positive impact. It's even written like a true honest, right? Like maximize positive impact. It's not like let's make people happy or whatever. You know, we have to solve for maximizing positive impact. Like it's just, I cringe when I hear stuff like that and there's been so many people over the years who like claim to adhere to this and then turn out to be kind of monsters. I want to say, I don't want to give stolen baller here. I don't want to give a claim against someone I already don't like very much that's wrong. Can you just Google real quick, Joey Deef, if Sam Altman has ever commented on effective altruism, I'm trying to think if I'm getting him mixed up with someone else on this? Sam Altman famously remarked about the movement. I used to be annoyed at being the villain of the EA's until I met their heroes. So yeah, he's a fan. Okay. My point exactly right there. So some of the worst people you know, some of the more psychopathic people that claim to be, you know, they talk in a soft tone like, yeah, you know, we're solving to maximize positive outcomes for people and, you know, that that's really all we're trying. I mean, this is how Sam Altman talks, but, you know, behind it, it doesn't seem like he's doing a lot of things that are great for humanity, doesn't seem to care that much about the impact of what his tools may or may not do. In this case, I should say may do, that's very negative for humanity, including for the future of the population itself, but that's near to here and or there. So this guy Leopold. founds the chapter of effective altruism at Columbia, which already should have been a big fucking red flag. But on top of that, as Joey Dief said, joined FTX after he left college. So he specifically joined the FTX future fund team in February, 2022, straight from CIPD right here. The team was part of the FTX foundation, which is the philanthropic arm of crypto exchange FTX and provided grant funding for research topics that would quote, "improve humanity's long-term prospects" unquote, which improving humanity's long-term prospects, that sounds fucking great, Joey Dief. - Yeah, I'm on board. - This is a part of a great way to explain this is Edward Snowden's older explanation of the Save the Puppies Act. Whenever you see an act passed in Congress, that sounds like, oh my God, how could you ever vote against that? It's so like everyone can get behind that just by the name. He's like, those are usually the most dangerous acts. Think of the Patriot Act, right? So, he's part of this FTX foundation, the team that's on the FTX foundation. Asham Brunner ended up resigning alongside other team members on November 11th, 2022, the same day FTX filed for bankruptcy. That's why you gotta do, Joey Dief. You get off the sink and ship when you're lost at sea. And I can't even blame for that. But he also resigned with the woman who would become his future wife. - Nice. - Who I'm gonna get to their lovely wedding that they had in August, that's coming. But do you know where she works now, Joey Dief? - No, where? - So, a Vidal Ball Whit, that's her name. Fellow researcher at the Future Humanity Institute. And later join Asham Brunner as a member of FTX Future Fund team. After they resigned, she later became the Chief of Staff to the CEO of Anthropic. - Nice. - They all know each other, they all fuck each other. They're all a part of the same little fucking club and you, me, and all of us aren't fucking in it. So, they're at FTX, they get off the sink and ship. Where do you think Leopold went after that, Joey Dief? - I don't know, maybe he went to like a startup or a small company building from the ground up. - Right, you would think like, you know, you'd take some time off, your personal brands not doing too great, having worked at the biggest fucking fraud outlet in modern history right now. - Yep. - But no, he landed on his feet. He went to open AI. - Nice. - He went to open AI. And he was working on some projects there and this is where it gets weird. So, at some point in 2024, he was fired. And when he was fired, he was a part of the team with Ilya Sutskever, I think his name is, who ended up also, he was like a high up guy at open AI. Might have been a co-founder, don't quote me on that. But Ilya in 2024 was also removed from the company because he had concerns that emanated to, all the way back to like Sam Altman as a guy running the company. But Leopold worked on his team and was fired and claims that it was retribution for leaking an internal report that something about it had been made public. It was a little murky. Like it was a he said, she said, and then the company said, no, that's not why it was fired. But he says when they met with him and fired him, that's why they fired him. But he had written this paper called something along the lines of like situational awareness for the future of AI, something like that. And so the paper went really viral because it broke down all of the supply chain effectively that went in, that goes into creating AI and therefore what industries are going to have like the biggest push over the next decade while the AI industry is being created. Like who's going to profit off of that that you could invest in if you're a potential stock investor. And so as a result, a bunch of finance guys looked at this young former valedictorian from Columbia who just left open AI and said, Leopold, you're going to start a hedge fund. So they spin them up with this hedge fund. And at the VC intern did a really good breakdown of what happened to this hedge fund in 2026. Again, what could possibly go wrong when you got a 24, 25 year old kid suddenly managing billions of dollars in assets with no previous experience investing? I could think of a thing or 10, anyway. So from the underscore VC underscore intern, guess we're arriving in Carmel for Leopold Asham Brenner's wedding while banks were preparing to liquidate his hedge fund. I said I would get to his wedding while his hedge fund was like basically going belly up. I'm gonna explain the details with this tweet in a second. The dude was getting married in some lavish marriage ceremony at the beginning of August. Perfectly going through with it, didn't delay it, didn't move it back while people were losing their ass to the tune of 35 billion more on that in a second. Just kind of interesting optics right there. Situation awareness had started July with roughly $45 billion and it gained 439% in six months. I'll give them this, that's impressive. 439% in six months is really good. What it does do though, you know, you basically spin up this hedge fund, you're suddenly making five X returns in the first six months of it. You get a big head and you start making bets. And from every story I've ever followed on Wall Street the people who fall, they get a big head and they start making bets. They start gambling with usually with other people's money including their own. So they had gained 439% in six months. Asham Brenner was 24, had never managed money before 2025 and had built one of Wall Street's fastest growing funds by turning his AISA into a portfolio. Going long memory chips, meaning investing in them, data centers and power, short software companies, he expected AIS to commoditize. Much of that exposure was financed with borrowed money. So he's levering up money, which is very similar to what the banks did during the housing crisis when they were just betting on all these fucking terrible jumbo mortgages. So when AIS stocks reversed, falling prices reduced the collateral supporting those loans. Banks demanded more cash. So they're asking for their reserves to come back in. Selling stocks push prices lower, which produce more margin calls. So he's getting called to have to produce even more money and liquidate. And Asham Brenner later compared it to a bank run. Situation will reportedly spend about 24 hours finding one buyer for roughly $16 billion worth of public equities. Ken Griffin Citadel took the leverage book in a block trade while wedding guests gathered in California. If you remember, Ken Griffin and Citadel were the firm on the other side of the trade, one of the firms involved on the other side of the trade in the Robin Hood height in January 2021. So Ken comes back around again, clean cut, clean cut, save the day, a little 16 billy for the boys and says, I'll take this off your hand, Leo. A plan sale of $3.5 billion in anthropic shares was abandoned, situational kept its private holdings and removed all leverage from what remained. July's losses reached 67%, which is about the same number as the full losses that the financial crisis from an S&P 500 perspective in 2008, 2009, just for people keeping scores at home. He did that in one month. Here is the absurd arithmetic. $100 invested at the beginning of 2026 became 539 by June. Losing 67% reduced it to about 178. One of the most dramatic hedge fund collapses in years still left early investors roughly 80% ahead for the year. The later investors, which is most of them, by the way, have been fucked and liquidated to the tune of billions of dollars across them. Just to be clear. So the earliest people are doing okay. And apparently the earliest people do okay in a Ponzi scheme, you have to fucking back too. So that's needed to hear in order there. But recovering, and I love this line that this guy put in here because this is like so true. And people don't think about this. Recovering from a 67% loss requires a 203% king. I remember when I worked back on Wall Street, one of the things I would always say to people when we were talking about like risk with investments, is that be like, all right, if you have $100 and you lose 50% how much do you have? And they'd say 50 bucks. And I say, now what percentage do you have to gain to get back to even to 100? They'd look up and they'd be like, 100%. And I say, yeah, you get more hurt on the downside than you do help on the upside. That's like one of the things like comes back to even like just a broad base old cliche quote of like takes money to make money, right? So lose money, make less too. So this guy basically fucked over all these people and was having a fire sale on the back end getting bailed out literally by people like Ken Griffin. And still went ahead with his marriage that weekend. I don't know what his personal net worth is and everything, but I guarantee you, Gary and fucking to you, he is still worth in the tens of millions of dollars. Maybe hundreds. I can't, that's pure spec. I don't know. He still got his lavish lifestyle and everything. And you would think after such an event like this that required private, basically like for lack of a better way of putting it private lenders, so to speak, that's not what they are. But like people like Ken Griffin to come in to liquidate and like clean this guy up. You would think that that might trigger something like, you know, some sort of like they have like that stop loss kind of trigger in a stock market sometimes when some news triggers a run on a stock and then they stop it from trading. You would think maybe they'd be like, "Yo, dude." Yeah, it's this had fun, you can't do any can't do it. He just put another 400 to 500 million in private investment in something the other day. We're in September, October now. Like, again, for the 50th million time, it's a big club. You and I are not in it. I mean, that is deep, that is fucking wild that he can get away with that. Yeah, and it says that his net worth is estimated between 300 million and 1.6 billion, so. Okay, yeah, so he is in hundreds of millions. He's doing all right. And that's an estimation, but he's not missing no meals. Right, the current status to fund Shrant, this is straight from Google AI. The fund shrank to roughly 10 billion exited the public equity's market entirely and shifted its focus to remaining private investments such as a stake in Anthropic, which is a public company, I believe, right? My fucked up right now, Anthropic's fully public, right? Yeah, I think so. The Securities and Exchange Commission, it's not, oh, they have an IPO coming up. That's what it is. Right, that's why I'm thinking of that. So the Securities and Exchange Commission, don't know where they've been on this, but apparently they're looking into it. They got their people on it. So they subsequently opened an inquiry into the trading practices and leverage utilized by the fund in its rapid rise and near collapse. Can we actually, I think I got rid of that link. Can you just type this in real quick so I make sure I have this right? Did Leopold Asher Brunner recently invest in some more private holdings? I saw something when I was looking through this earlier and I think I just forgot to screenshot it where he just put another four or 500 million and I want to make sure I get that right. Yep, okay. So Leopold Asher Brunner's hedge fund situation awareness recently made a $400 million investment into an undisclosed private company. It's the best kind, right? Undisclosed. I don't know what it is. Perfect. A $400 million private equity infusion closed in early August. Right around time was wedding too after the run on the bank. It followed a previous $100 million stake the fund had taken in the same undisclosed company the month prior bringing their total commitment to 500 million because that's what you do. When you lose everyone fucking 203% or whatever it was overnight, 35 billion, you make sure you take your previous investments so you put 10 bucks on fucking red and now you put 40. You quench, you quadruple down, baby. That happened right after that. Yeah, and that's how you got to catch up. The move came immediately after the fund narrowly avoided collapse and sold off the bulk of its public tech equity portfolio to Ken Griffin Citadel following steep market routes and margin calls in July, 2026. I'm all for people start in their own companies trying to build their businesses, you know, get success or whatever. A 24 year old with no previous investment experience, whatsoever, coming from a totally separate world, starting a hedge fund that raises $45 billion worth including in gains. So it didn't raise that. It raised, you know, whatever it was, 15 billion or something like that, 10 billion. In year one, seems like something that should probably be a little bit regulated around or mark off some areas of being forced to be in given some private scrutiny. You know, like one of the things that really frustrated me when I worked at Bank of America Merrill Lynch right out of college is that I used to joke with people. You had to ask permission for toilet paper to take a shit. And the reason for that was in the post financial crisis World of 0809, where to be clear banks fucked everyone, including Bank of America, including Merrill Lynch, which Bank of America bought in a fire sale during the whole fucking thing, because they torn it up in all the wrong ways in the housing market. The problem with the Whipa Merrill on that is that the banks, the sections of the banks that fucked this up. First of all, those people should all go into prison. That's number one. None of that ever happened. As far as I know, not one person went to prison. Who did that? Secondly, the real estate companies they worked with, like the Angelo, Mozilla, Mozilla, or whatever, like I forget what company, Countrywide, whatever it was. Like those guys should all go into prison. The dudes you saw testifying from the credit swap teams, including that French guy from Goldman Sachs, all those people should have gone to prison. The bank should have been regulated like crazy on proprietary trading, because if you don't know the history, when Glass-Steagall, and it's been a while since I looked at this, so I'm going to keep it really broad. When Glass-Steagall was brought in as legislation, and I believe 1934, when the Great Depression happened, the whole point was to keep the banks from using their money to make bets on the market when they would need to have a certain amount that could actually fulfill customers if they wanted to take out money. Because a big problem in the Great Depression is people went to take their money out of the bank, and none of it was left there because the banks had used the money, right? So my finance people in the comment sections, please for the love of God, clean that up right now, 'cause I'm doing this off the gander without having looked at this in a while. But in I believe 1998 or 1999, Bill Clinton effectively repealed Glass-Steagall. And this was after Blive Masters, basically was like the Godmother of, I believe, CDOs, Credit to Fault Swaps, and I want to say like 1994 at JP Morgan, and it was starting to spread on Wall Street. And so when Clinton repealed that, which I'm sure he'd, Joey Dee, if he definitely wasn't lobbied to do that, they would never do that. - No, that was, that he made that. - Yeah, he just made that call on his own, obviously, 'cause Bill's a great trader, I'm sure. But anyway, so when he repealed that, it basically allowed the banks to start betting on this like crazy. And that's how you led to the next eight years of like one page sign right here, mortgages, sold by guys like Tim Dillon, hilarious stories, if you never heard Tim tell those stories about his days as a mortgage broker. But like, you know, you'd have someone walk in on $45,000 worth of income, buying a house for 1.4 million, where the rate's gonna fucking jump three years in and it's gonna explode. And of course, nothing's gonna happen. But they were incentivized to do that because the mortgage companies, again, it's been a while since I look at this, would basically just sell off that fucking asset to the banks real quick, who would take a bunch of assets like that, put it all up together, and sell that as like an investment to a bunch of people, including pension funds and major investment houses, that was later gonna blow up once no money came in from the mortgages to where people couldn't pay it. And then the losses were gonna come on the investors, which is exactly what happened. It was predatory, it was criminal, it was wrong, it should have been regulated like shit, like crazy. The fucking people that ran those teams should have gone to jail. The CEOs, it wasn't all of them as far as I know, but like some of the CEOs, like the guy was a dickfold, I believe those actually his name. - Definitely his name. - Can we check that? Is it dickfold, F-U-L-D, from Lehman Brothers? Like that guy should have gone to jail 'cause he was fully aware of what they were doing on that team. Obviously banks are big places. - He never went to jail though. - He never went to jail. Guys like that all should have gone to jail, and those teams almost like shouldn't have been allowed to exist at all, let alone trade on proprietary money. But what ended up happening is that the regulation went to the entire banks, which the reason we had an issue with this in certain places is 'cause it was awful for the customers of banks. It made their lives hell, 'cause they couldn't do anything without us having to do 47 million things behind the scenes on stuff that had nothing to do with mortgages, nothing to do with any of that shit. I will say, a couple of times I worked on mortgages for people, and it was a pain in the ass, but that was one thing where when I was working on it, I'm like, this is actually good. This is how it should be because I know what this did, and I could see the due diligence, the hat that was required from a KYC, know your client perspective, that would go into a mortgage to prevent you selling predatory mortgages, and that's where it worked. But then I couldn't text a client on a daily basis to say, hey, what's up or something? Like shit like that, like they'd have regulation like that, and it was crazy for banks. Then you see things like this pop up, and you see guys I've had on the podcast warning about like an AI bubble that could be very much like a dot-com bubble where a lot of these companies end up being worth nothing, which could be coming and could blow up the stock market and stuff. And you are going to see the government's not doing anything about it now when they should be, but as always, the government's then gonna be forced to react afterwards, and they're gonna make your life as a customer more miserable on basic deposits and shit that has nothing to do with this because people like this are allowed to operate with impunity. That's why I look at this and my blood fucking boils. So shout out, Liam Poll, Asher Brenner, or whatever the fuck your name is. I'm sure you have the best of intentions, you affect the voluptuous, but no one's really talking about that story. And even though he's not investing in public companies, he's still managing billions of dollars worth to private assets and hopefully the SEC is doing something there, but doesn't sound like there's much in that whole way 'cause that story, by the way, dropped at the beginning of August. And you haven't heard, he's operating as usual. He might have even gone on his fucking honeymoon. I don't know. I don't know. I can either confirm it the night I have no idea. That's pure spec. But like, kinda interesting. We're letting that one fly under the radar. No. Yeah, it's like they don't read the room Feels like we say that every week and it feels like we're right every week. Yeah, well, you know, yeah All right, so the other thing I wanted to talk about is So Fern on YouTube put out a really solid 20-minute video on the polymarket influencer campaign and I had talked about this with you guys a couple times in the late spring early summer. So for people who didn't see that I talked about it on I talked about on the episode with Louis Regario Who was talking about his gambling addiction and the predatory nature of the gambling companies and stuff and That was when I mentioned that the month before I had called up our brand company and Said, hey, any gambling companies coming in we're not doing it. We're not doing it We had done a handful of them over a couple years It was usually like prize picks or draft Kings and I never thought anything of it because I don't have that gene Like that thing to go bet five bucks on like where the dogs are going to take a shittaker like I don't do that You know like prize picks would send me the thing and I'd get a $5 player whatever and click the one and be like oh cool And that's it, you know like it's just not my thing and I'm somebody who believes in Markets being pretty free and people being able to have free will to make their decisions and stuff like that and I've been like that across the board on a lot of stuff but What I realized is that in speaking with a lot of people so many Fortunately, like do have that gene of like I want to I want to go do this and this phone Giving such ubiquitous access now through all these fucking apps from Polymarket on fucking betting on anything to draft Kings betting on sports or whatever. It's like a crackhead Having crack in their pocket at all times and when I do an ad for it Inacting like seriously like that crack feeling. I was like I don't want to do this. It's crazy It's absolutely crazy. And so they had even sold some prize pick ads like the the the middle man ad marketing company I work with who brings brand deals They had sold I don't know how many but a handful of them throughout the year canceled all them and I think that's gonna be a really good long-term call I do think there's something to be said for the fact that perhaps like an illegalized gambling society If you're gonna have free markets like that It would be much better if we legalized it where you had to be in a casino Rather than being able to bring it on the phones and stuff that is something I'm really really coming around on talking to a lot of people And so Fern did this great video about how Polly market is just integrating The normalcy of just betting on fucking anything Into these influencer campaigns which includes huge names from LeBron James to Aiden Ross to Nick Shirley across the board It's a lot of people. It's a lot of people in podcasting and stuff and like I don't want to I Don't want to just start like attacking people and stuff because like in the past I looked at some of these ads and didn't think anything, but what I would say is that now There's been more public awareness on this especially for people like me who like aren't into that stuff and are learning from people who are That like I would highly recommend Unsolicited advice here that if you got a platform out there I don't care what industry it is within content you take a look at this stuff and you think about what you're selling and you think About what it's doing to society and you think about what kind of impact that's having on especially like young men and stuff You know you go to fucking You hear about guys like working birthday parties and there's a bunch of 13-year-olds playing fucking draft Kings Yeah, I've been that dude. I've been that you've been that not the 13-year-old gambling But I've worked birthday parties like that. You've seen that stuff. Yeah, yeah, and like that that's not cool And so Fern did this great video where he talked about how like polymarket is Cheating the market first of all I think it's like around 80% of users on polymarket or complete losers Meaning like they they lose money to the app which again the house is rigged against you Yeah, the only game I played growing up was Holden poker Because it's the one fucking game the casino doesn't play against you one. Yeah, they're in there They take a one to two percent rake each hand. They don't give a fuck who wins you play the man I never played blackjack. I never played slots because like I know mathematically it's rigged against you And that's the same thing they're doing with this app But what they're also doing is they're starting these these sock puppet campaigns to get around the advertising disclosure Where they're paying clipping networks effectively to make content on accounts that are not named anything after polymarket or whatever and just show bets They're doing which includes fake videos like they showed a fake video of a kid who said he bet a hundred dollars on whether or not Trump Was going to say McDonald's in a speech and he reacts live air quotes to like a speech happening and it turns out that speech was three months before and the bet and question was happening that week. So it's like they're lying as well And I do think it's disappointing when all these major people you know like I'm a fan of LeBron James the basketball player And sometimes I think people give him too much shit for some stuff or whatever I don't watch the guy to care about like whether his opinions are all right But like he's a billionaire. He's a literal billionaire. Yeah, and like you know He's headlined in a huge campaign for polymarket still is an active MBA player, by the way Weird dumb not worth it. Don't know who's advising him. Stop doing that Like I think this year has been a real wake-up call With that and and Fern really really put this together. You know that there's also the insider trading aspect of it as well I think I There was I don't want to say the name because I don't remember exactly which influencer it was and I don't want to mess it up But like one of the major influencers apparently was called on video Talking about how he can get all this information headed ahead of time himself and be able to bet on this This isn't like insider trading with like quarterly reports for stocks, which is like no gray area It just kind of is what it is, right? And even that like that gets weird sometimes too. That's a separate rabbit hole But this is like just regular information happening outside You know a speech writer for some politician that has a bet on whether or not he's gonna mention a topic and you're like Yo, is he gonna say it and you bet on it? Fucking anyone can know that speech writer. How the hell are? You know government entities even gonna investigate this stuff the only case I've even seen get Prosecuted is one of the guys who was betting on the Delta thing with Venezuela Earlier this year, which now apparently is getting fought in court and you know Maybe the charges will get dropped I haven't looked at that in a few weeks, but like none of these people are getting rusted Every time Donald Trump moved the markets with oil and whatever with the war People were betting way ahead of time because they clearly had information that he was gonna say things that turned out to not be true About the war and the oil markets that then they made millions of dollars on and did I mention Joey Dief? You see draft kings too. What about it? Like a few days ago the investigation that they're using AI to target like the losers to keep gambling more New York times was that that's predatory. I don't know why that's legal. That shouldn't be legal. Yeah, it should not be legal It's totally predatory man But did I did I tell you that Donald Trump juniors on the advisory board Of polymarket and that his company 1789 capital backs it no way and his father is the president of the United States Who's seen more insider polymarket trades happen on his watch Then I could even fucking count That's insane again for like the fifth time today. It's a big club and you and I ain't in it So they use in fake sock puppet accounts to get around FEC advertising regulations. Mm-hmm. They're a lot They're having influencers lie on those videos. They're trying to integrate gambling into every part of life Make sure he's doing fraud investigations and then We're in a polymarket sweatshirt and telling people that they can bet on the outcomes of political stuff while he's doing an investigation into people who are defrauding people When the gambling company here is also defrauding people with like hidden ads and stuff. I don't know the irony kind of writes itself You know And none of these people as far as I know are being investigated are going to prison It's unreal They're also using like Third-party companies for legalization in the US the main international polymarket platform is blocked for US users But a federally regulated US version operates legally in most states That's like that's like saying it wasn't sex. We're where because I was wearing a condom Like what the fuck are we talking about here? So polymarket remains closed only or blocked from US internet protocol IP address is following a 2022 settlement With the commodity futures trading commission a separate federally-like regulated platform called polymarket US operates under cftc Oversight via an acquired designated contract market the US platform is legal and over 40 states Though availability continues to face state-level legal challenges and lawsuits from local regulators who argue prediction markets and to unlicensed gambling. For instance, states like New York had filed lawsuits to block operations locally and availability excludes states like Nevada. Good for them. Good for some states like looking at it. I was contacted. I didn't tell you this, Steve. I shall remain nameless, but someone with with a really big following who I like, who's a friend contacted me because Polymarket was trying to go around my company and get in touch with me to do a campaign. I was like brother easy out here. I've very publicly committed to not doing any gambling companies whatsoever. And like that's also, you know, things move fast behind the scenes and you're constantly blocking and tackling, especially like, you know, we got a real underdog kind of thing here with very small team and everyone's doing a great job. And it's kind of all hands on deck at all times. And that's how it's been for six and a half years for me personally. With this, you know, things can fall through the cracks sometimes. But what I do really hold myself to account on is when I start to like be able to zoom out on some things and say, Hey, that looks off. I don't like that. And there's something in your gut that's like, yeah, no, no, no, that's that's not good. You know, I got to be able to go to bed at night and look myself in the mirror. And if I were doing ads for companies like this, I would not be able to do that period. And that's why it got to that point in April. I was like, before this starts becoming like a regular thing, this is, this has got to go. And we, and we really do, we do have to look at this. And I do think I think you do have to prosecute people at these companies who are coming up with these schemes to get around regulations to put this stuff in society. If I wanted to destroy the future of a society, I would get young men addicted to porn and gambling, send them to colleges where their degree doesn't matter on nothing but unforgivable debt that they can't pay off so they can get dead end jobs if they even get employed at something that's not Starbucks afterwards. And that would lead to them being depressed, lonely, unable to get women, unable to procreate, have no future and create a society where the genders are at war with each other because they blame each other's problems on each other at all times because the algorithms also push that. That's what I would do. So yeah, anything associated with any of those things, you're not going to see us back in here, period, full stop and the story. But polymarket, calcium, all of them look at it. And I hope some of these influencers also really take a step back, like I did, and think these things through. You know, wait, it's like, you know, this is why we can't have nice things. Yeah, you can't find a proper balance with stuff. Yeah, you know, you want to you want to take the effort to go to a casino and you know, lose some money on Blackjack and get fucked up and go to the club. Okay, okay, okay. But when it comes to being able to do it at all times of the day, no matter what, I don't think that is a good idea. It's not going to serve society well. It's not a good idea. Joey, go get some vitamin C. I'm gonna, you've been banged up for a little while, playing injured as fuck, knocking it out of the park. It's all right. We're almost done the other side of this. That's right. Ghost row Joey Deef, a follow on Instagram and ex at Joey Deef on Instagram at Toke Malone on X great follow on X by the way. Great. He's easy. He's playing injured here for the love of the game and for the love of you, the people. And we, we love him for it. Yeah, it's my, it's my fucking honor and privilege. I do it again and again if I add to, yeah, God damn right. 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