Myles Garrett & AJ Brown Got Traded, Caleb Williams on Madden Cover, Da Bears & Shirtless Ben Johnson | EP 194

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I don't know. I don't know who takes their shirt off at a football game. Are we going to get Ben popping his top off more this year? Like, is this a thing that's going to stay? You got to own it. You got to own it. When he started doing it, we just lost our shit. It was a great moment. It was like, look at him. Everybody's going nuts. Yeah, I'm juiced in the back. Ben didn't do it early in the year because he had to lift a little bit more. That's right. At some point, I started seeing him in the waiver. Right before we go out to practice, getting a couple of squats, getting a couple of lifts and things like that. And then he was working for this moment. Yeah, he was working for this moment. For this moment right here. Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of all ages and all sizes and hopefully of all parts of the world. This is a Wondery show brought to you by Enterprise. That's right. We're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey. Out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the Heights. Shout out to those Bearcats, too. Everybody back in UC, man. We miss you guys. Subscribe on YouTube, wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on all social media. Add New Heights Show with one S for fun clips throughout the week. And Jason's going to tell us what we have. That's right. 92% as we got another great episode, as we do always. We're going to recap a wild bunch of NFL trades that happened just a day ago in the new league year starting. And we also are going to hear about Chiefs OTAs. Oh, and Kayla Williams is here. That's right. Yoo-hoo! Before that, obviously, we're going to get to some of that new news. New news. New news is brought to you by American Express. Actually, we're going to get into it right now because this is part of the new news. I don't know if you saw this, Travis, but biggest surprise of potentially the NFL season, A.J. Brown was traded. Potentially until the other trade happened the same day. I would say this was kind of documented it was going to happen. Everybody had their eyes on it. But since the draft, really, it sounded like you even knew because you said if the Eagles take a wide receiver in the draft, that means. It tells you a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I did not know for certain, but I think I knew just as well as anybody else that has any type of intuition, has been following football at all, or the Philadelphia Eagles. You can always tell the way organizations are answering questions, you know, about like, oh, are you guys interested in trading them? Well, you know, we're listening to offers and, you know, we still value the guy. But if there's something there, we might be willing to say, OK, so they're shopping them and something's going to happen. And I think at the end of the day, it was not a surprise. I think A.J. very clearly made it known that he's been frustrated the last few years. And from everything coming out, it sounds like he wanted and was excited to move on stuff. And I think it was in everybody's best interest. I mean, at this point, it certainly felt like it was enough of a distraction and had been that way where I think everybody was just kind of done trying to make it work out. And I think. I mean, it's a hell of a situation. Oh, he's going to be just fine in New England, man. Got Drake May throwing him the football. Got a great offensive coordinator. Yeah, obviously a great head coach. They just got back from playing in the Super Bowl, man. That that New England team is is was already really good. And now they just got, you know, arguably one of the best receivers in the league. So here's the reality. A.J. Brown was not the reason he was offense was not successful this year. He's a very good football player. I don't want to hear all this. Has he lost a step? We're going to find out this year. I think he's going to have a really good year. How does a relationship like this start to falter? It's because you don't have success on the field. You stop executing as a team. Stop executing as players. The Eagles offense had continued to decline as a passing game. The run game stalled out last year with injuries and other things happening. So, you know, execution fuels emotion when you're not performing. This is the reality of the league. This is the reality of how it goes. Do I wish A.J. would have handled it better at times? Yes. But I don't. I don't fault him for being frustrated that he wasn't getting what he wanted out of the game and out of playing for the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, obviously, it's not just him. He's not doing it with frustration. Here's the reality. They're changing completely what they do. The offense had grown stale. It was at one point very – A.J. and Jalen didn't have an issue in 2022 when there was the most explosive offense in the NFL. When they go out in the Super Bowl against you guys, even though we lost, they put up tons of numbers, right? Yeah. It only happens once teams start to get a beat. We didn't adjust well. Whatever it is, I don't know whether it's combined with schematics, injuries to the O-line, not running the quarterback. There's all these litany of things that could have caused the Eagles offense to decline over the last three years. That's why this has happened. So now they get to try and reinvent themselves into the explosive offense they can be with Sean Mayne. This is a big year for Jalen. It's a big year for the Eagles offense. They just lost one of their best players. They drafted a young kid in Mekhi Lemon who seems like he's the real deal and fits the offense very well. They still have Devontae Smith. Saquon Barkley. Dallas Goddard. A great offensive line as long as they're healthy. And Jalen Hurts. They have plenty of guys to work with still. How can they adjust with this new offense? That is the big thing I'm looking forward to. How can Sean Mannion be as a play caller? How can Jalen adjust to being under center, throwing over the middle, all these progressions? There's question marks, but it's also optimism, right? There's hope. We're not just running it back and doing the same thing that we've tried to get right and tried to manufacture. Over the last three seasons, that hat has clearly not been working. And you saw it on the face of A.J. Brown and on Jalen and on other guys because it wasn't manifesting itself. Now we get to see what it looks like with a fresh start offensively. So I'm looking forward to what the Eagles look like. I'm looking forward to seeing what A.J. does in New England. I am. As a fan of football, I can't wait to see what Drake May and he do up in New England with Josh McDaniels. All right now. And we get a little joint practice. Ooh, a little joint practice. That's right. Nice. Patriots and Eagles joint practice. How about it? A lot of storylines. I've never been a part of one of those. I don't know what that is. It is sad to see that there's only one Batman left. Only one Batman left in Philly, and that's Skinny Batman. And I will say Skinny Batman fits this system very well. I think Skinny Batman fits just about every system. I was going to say, when you are the system. Hey, that's one of my favorite Jalen Hurts podcasts. Yeah, I love the quotes right there. All right. Well, that's my overall take. It's just, this is what happens when things kind of decline. Listen, I was here in Philadelphia when they got rid of Andy Reid. I hated when they made that decision because I love Andy. But in hindsight, it was probably best for everybody. Andy got to go start fresh. Certainly has worked out for him in Kansas City. I bet he doesn't regret any of that. It just gets to a point where sometimes this is kind of the nature of it. And yeah, go birds. Well, there's another. There's another. There's another trade that I think kind of came out of the blue more than this. AJ or Brown went to the Patriots. And that is, yeah, kind of, yeah, either way. Brown's traded reigning defensive player of the year, Miles Garrett. That's right. They traded the best defensive player in the league to the Rams. Now, they didn't just trade him for anything. They traded him for Jared Verse, who is a fucking ball player. And a 2027 first round pick and a 2029 second round pick, as well as a 2029 third round pick. Yes. They gave up quite a bit for the best defensive player in the league. Do you think this was even? Do I think it's even? No, I think Cleveland nets out in the better. But the caveat is, I think the Rams, it's worth it on their end because they're in this win now mode. They get the best defensive player in the league to come in. What's it best for the future? giving up all these picks and with the money that they're going to have on the salary cap. I don't know, but it is if you go win a Super Bowl. And that's, they drafted a quarterback earlier this year. This is by all accounts, Matthew Stafford, the reigning MVP, not just defensive MVP, MVP of the league is still on the team. You don't know how much longer you have. This window is closing. That's why I really like the move for both teams. I like it for the Rams because they're like, listen, we're shelling out. We're not holding back. That's how they won the first Super Bowl. They went out and got all these monsters on the defense and on offense. And they decided that it hurt them from a salary standpoint in future years. And they had to take a step back, but they're doing something similar here. They're going to go out and get Myles Garrett. He's going to add a ton to the defense as he does to any defense. It's going to be interesting to see him in a new uniform. Seeing how, you know, a nice fresh start with a team and an organization that's had more recent success than the Browns. I mean, you've got the MVP on offense and the defensive player of the year on defense. Man, it sounds like kind of the makeup that they had when they won their last one. I mean, they were right there last year. And listen, Jared Versus is a great player. Do make no mistake about it. This guy, this guy is very good. That son of a buck can play some fucking ball now. And I'm talking about all the all four quarters, every fucking down. He's playing some fucking ball now. So we just talked about L.A. and why I think it makes sense for them. This is why it makes sense for Cleveland. Cleveland's getting one of the best young edge rushers in the league still. Jared Versus is a great player. Now, he doesn't get the same amount of sacks, but he definitely develops pressures. This guy might be the best bull rushing defensive end in the league. I saw him take 6'9", 365 Jordan Milata and put him on his back. Do you know how hard that is? And Jordan Milata, I even tell Jordan, bro, invite the bull rush. You're a monster. You're huge. Nobody's going to be able to run you over. Well, this guy did it. Seriously, if Jared Versus, he's already, he got seven and a half sacks this last year. If he can develop. One finesse move off of that bull rush, he will be easily double digit sacks every year. That's how good this kid is. And on top of that, they get a first round, second round and a third round pick in future years. So I think Cleveland, great move for them. I think great move for L.A. I can't wait to watch the Rams. They were right there last year. And Miles Garrett. I mean, Jesus, there's a bunch of people talking to like, what if he comes out of retirement? What if it's Miles Garrett and A.D.? On the same side, on the same team, on the same field. They can't do that, right? That'd be cheating. They can't do that. Roger would have to step in. If I was still playing a line in the league, I would start a petition. This is no, this isn't, this isn't allowed. What are we doing here? I'm trying to go fund me. This isn't allowed. I don't know what we're raising money for, but we're going to fucking, we're going to put a halt to this. I mean, those two players on the same team, those are easily the most physically gifted guys I played against. And the rest of the D line aren't a bunch of slouches. Like they got. We got some fucking ballplayers. We got Fisk. You have inside, you have Kobe Turner, who's a really good player inside. But there's another edge player that's, that they do more of the games with Young. Byron Young. Byron Young. Byron Young. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Brandon. The benefit of having a guy like Miles Garrett is it's going to make every team that plays you alter everything they're doing to stop that one player. And that is a major advantage if you're a defensive coordinator. I know, I know Shula, the D.C. is freaking licking his chops. Right now, knowing what he has and how he's going to be able to get after the quarterback with this guy on the team. So, yeah, yeah, I'm excited to watch all this. Oh, they also Rams also got Trent McDuffie this offseason and Jalen Watson. Yeah, they got both of our both of our secondary or both of our starting corners. What's crazy about this is that the Rams since trading for Matthew Stafford have actually had two first round picks since 2016. Just two first round picks. Wow. And that was one was Jared Verse, who they just traded. And the other is the kid that they took this year, Ty Simpson. Well, I mean, this has been Cronky's model and what these guys have done. They they believe in getting proven talent and they shell out for it. And to be honest, I like it. Like, it's don't get me wrong. I like first round picks too. First round picks are awesome. I love the excitement of having like a young, really good player. Yeah. But I mean, I also love getting really good players that, you know, are going to be great in the league because they have proof of it. Yeah, they have been not shy of shelling out to win championships. And that's something I really admire about what the Rams do and how aggressive they are in offseason acquisitions and and everything that they do. So this is also not the only last bit of new news for offseason moves. Travis, you know, Nick Herbig. Are you familiar with the name? Nick Herbig. Nick Herbig. No, it doesn't ring a bell. He's now the highest paid NFL player who isn't a starter ever in the history of the NFL. So the main reason I know Nick is because I played with his brother, Nate, and I did a workout with Nick one offseason when he was still in college at Wisconsin. This kid's like a fucking goddamn badger. And I got to give him a shout out because every time he goes on the field. This is legit. He is a backup outside linebacker for the Steelers. He started some games. The guys have gotten hurt, but he just flashes and makes plays. I'm telling you, he's a stud. He's a disruptor. I know exactly who you're talking about. In my mind, in my mind, he's I mean, he's exactly that. He's a badger. He's like fucking just he's everywhere. And he's a smart player. Got the fucking motor. I love the way he plays, man. And I know I'm biased because I know him. I played with his brother. White linebacker. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, you're a white backer. He's a Hawaiian, though. So he doesn't come off weight. So he doesn't come off. Really? He's a white dude. Him and his brother grew up, I believe, is either the Big Island or Kauai. They grew up on one of the islands. There you go. So but he's what he's a white. He's a white Hawaiian. He I think Herbie said his dad's a redneck. What's his exact words? Nate's my dad's a redneck, man. He like they're both good players. Congrats to the big dog. I'm making a fucking hundred mil. Hell yeah. We have all kinds of coordinator news, right? The Eagles got some news coming out with Sean Mannion. But more importantly for Trav, Biennium is back with the Chiefs. How we how we feeling? How we feeling back in the building? You know, there's just sometimes a guy comes around and you just know it. You're done fucking around. I think Coach Reed is one of those guys. But even to a to another degree, the accountability that Eric Biennium holds is second to none, man. Just his coaching style, how we how we how we practice, how we preach. This is how to practice to for it to translate into the games. It's something I think we've we've kind of got we've we've missed. And and, you know, it's not saying that anybody else was not good. We still went out. We won another Super Bowl and all that. We we definitely still had the pieces. But at the same time, the enemy has this ability to kind of tweak the culture in the right direction. I think this is going to this is going to really help us out this year. You're not the only one that thinks that Patrick Mahomes and Tracy. Smith say players unfamiliar with Eric Biennium me haven't seen the real yeah, that's right. Ah, no, they haven't. They've they've gotten a glimpse. They've gotten a glimpse. But bullets really don't start flying until you fucking pop that ball out and until you roll the balls out in training camp and really dial this thing in and find our 53 man roster. Yeah, Trey Smith quoted as saying, get it together or he'll get you together. I love I fucking love it, man. God, it's good to have my guy back in the building, man. Fuck. I can't wait to leave. Motherfucks me, man. I'm like, it's me, your boy. Yeah, baby, it's me. We're in this together. Yeah. My name's Travis, not motherfucker. Pat also said that first meeting had me ready to run through a brick wall. It had me ready to go. And that's the thing, man. When you have a guy like Coach EB in the building, man, it's just, you know, every single meeting. You got to look at it. You got a little bit more, you know, alertness, because if he calls on you, which he will call on you, you know, you you better be ready or have something to say, man. So it's it's awesome, man. And I've talked to him briefly on a number of occasions, and he knows how much I'm really I'm ready to run through a wall for him this year. And I think everybody's starting to really feel that in the building. I do love OTAs for that. I feel like OTAs, there's like a especially when you've made all these offseason adjustments. It's the first time you get around each other to see how it's all coming together. And obviously, these guys are excited to have EB back and all that. But I mean, every team's excited this time of the year. Every team feels like they just made a bunch of moves that's going to help them get through. Jordan Malata had a great quote about Sean Mannion yesterday. He said, if I was going to make the list of the top three smartest people in the Philadelphia Eagles organization, they'd all be Sean Mannion. I always take a little bit of OTAs with a grain of salt because obviously everybody's excited. We'll really see how it goes. But it is fun when when you're back there and you're in you're doing things and you're you're doing new stuff that you really feel confident about. It's a fun time to be a football player in the NFL. You're seeing new draft picks and guys to first finally step on the field with veteran players for the first time. OTAs are always full of a lot of juice and energy. Hell yeah, baby. We also have a new heights, Ola Kai. Ola Kai collab. Travis, are you? What? Listen, I got the Ola Kai box. I got it right here. But I did not know he was a New Heights collab. Ooh, these are specific sandals. Everybody knows I'm a sandals flip-flops guy. They set us up with some exclusive New Heights flip-flops. We're unboxing for the first time. What do you got? Dude, these are their official New Heights line. They got stitching like they're football. Stitching like it's a ball. Look at the grips on these fucking things. Holy shit. Olakai does not skimp, man. They do it right. This is premium leather right here. This is nice. Stitching, New Heights equipment right there. If you want sandals, you want the best sandals in the game. Oh, God. I've tried a lot of flip-flops out. I've been down that rabbit hole. Down that rabbit hole. Olakai, American company out there on the Hawaiian Islands. They do a fantastic job. And I think they nailed it with this design. Football fans will be happy. They got the stitching like it's a football. They got the. They got the freaking football on the heel. And if you're a fan of New Heights, they also got New Heights written on it. So that's cool. I know. No, this is sweet. These are awesome, man. As always, they got the Olakai quality, which is my favorite part. And the quality is just so fucking good, man. This thing, this thing right here, this is why I always hated the thong sandals. It's because heavy guys. Yeah, they rip them out. They just fucking snap. These things aren't fucking going anywhere. You can tell that thing is in there. And the other thing. Most thong sandals are flat. What I like about these is that it's contoured for your actual foot. So it feels good on your arch. It actually has some structure on the bottom. So one of the downsides of wearing flip-flops a lot of time is that you don't have any support at all for your feet. You're walking on like shitty foam. But here you're walking on something that's really been thoughtful in how they design it and support your foot, even though there's nothing else around it. Oh, show them your signatures. Show them your signatures. Show them your signatures on the side of the shoe. That's pretty cool. If you look at the inside of the shoe, show them that. That's fun. Oh, shit. Yeah, you sign these bad boys. Look at that. Look at that right there. Nice gold. Oh, yeah. Nice. Got T. Kelsey 87 on this side. They also. Every little box comes with one of these bad boys. This is going right on the fridge. Look at that man. Wait, let me see. Where's my. Yeah, you got a little Jason in there. That's that game day outfit by Jason Kelsey right there. Jason, you're getting a spot on the shelf. They also are dressier. They're dressier. So if you want to wear them with a pair of pants, they're still going to look good. You're going to a red carpet from here. You got them. I got a free koozie. I actually wore it when I was nominated for the Walter Payton Man of the Year. I had old guy's sandals on the field in my full suit. You would have thought this guy grew up on the island. Jesus. I mean, I wish. Hawaii is so awesome. Gosh, I want to go back. You can get these at kelseyclubhouse.com. I believe they are available now, I would presume. Otherwise, they probably wouldn't have us talking about them on the show. Available now. You will not regret it. This is the best sandal flip-flop I've ever put on. I've tried a bunch of different brands. Oh, yeah. And with summer coming around, come on now, baby. Get those toes out in the sun. And obviously, if you're a New Heights fan, you're going to want the collab. But if you're not into the collab, they still have great. Products at Olakai. You'll like. They have something for you, I guarantee it. Quick amount of. Before we get to the rest of the show, tickets are almost gone for our show. Oh, they're almost gone. For our live show at the Orpheum on June 15th. Can't tell you who the guests are yet. We. I mean. Oh, my. Listen, the one we got couldn't sell the stadium out by himself. So. It is very true. That is very true. Guaranteed to get the people going. And the last chance to send in your submission. For the fourth annual Beer Bowl on Thursday, June 25th in Seattle. That's right. Entries officially close on June 10th. We will reach out that week to let teams know if you are included and have been accepted. Again, we're doing it bigger and better than ever. Very excited about Beer Bowl and all the festivities that week. We're going to have a 300. I think I can announce it. We're going to have a 250-gallon fish tank that holds beer at. Not at Beer Bowl, but at the event before on Wednesday. Yeah. And if all the beer gets drank. $100,000 going to the charity. That's right. Oh! Our book, No Dumb Questions, is also available now! That's right. Check it out and put it in a bathroom near you. It's a great shitter read. It is. Available on Amazon, Kelsey Clubhouse as well, as all things Kelsey. Or wherever you get your books. That's right. We're also on audio. It's also fun re-reading some of the dumbass shit we've said. Question from a 92% or no via the Heights Hotline. What's up, fellas? I'm a Lions fan, but I love the show. I'm 18, so I'm not a parent. But I was going to ask what advice you would give to a parent that wants to teach their kid how to be better at golf. I'm just. I'm really. I'm really bad at golf, guys. And I know I need help. I need you to help. So please help me. All right. What did we say? Did you say I'm 18, so I'm not a parent? What the fuck does that mean? This is hilarious reading. Such a weird way to ask us to help him with his life. With his golf game. Hey, I'm no. And I'm just like, oh, what the fuck? Where are we going with this? Man, the more that I look at every page, because I'm not reading, the more I'm just like, I am saying the most minimal things in your paragraphs. You just have these rants. No, dude. You got the biggest. You got the biggest part of this golf one. I said my number one thing. This is the best, Travis. I can't read. You got to have a good relationship with the person scored. Travis Kelsey. 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It's we've second year, we've done it now rolling green rolling green have been great hosts and very kind of us uh to let us use their facilities and beautiful golf course to throw this thing i mean we had a lot of fun this year you know obviously a ton of people uh bought foursomes to support me philly got some great sponsorship toyota was a presenting sponsor shout out to them for really shelling out and making this thing really uh raise a lot of money for some charities and some families in the philadelphia area and some kids fuck yeah it was a lot of fun uh as as i mean you put a bunch of fun people on a golf course you're gonna have some fun not right now when you pair that up with chris lily and award-winning barbecue guy my guy chris making that thing so he's the uh big bob gibson's down in decatur alabama uh home of the alabama white sauce he came up and was uh making some chicken wings on hole three the par three oh man he made some brisket and some ribs uh the entire day smoking those things man sometimes sometimes those the grease from those wings can get on the hands though so you gotta have it was not the best you gotta have in hindsight it wasn't the best for a par three i definitely made sure to hit my t-shot first uh so i cannot blame that for my errant uh par three shot um but no chris lily came down on behalf of kingsford so we had a lot of support uh as well as we had an elvis impersonator rolling around what the king was there was there we had we had a um a mariachi band that played on one of the par threes as well as hung around playing after the day so dude we we had a complete blast our foundation and uh our entire team it was a whole hands-on event to pull this off so uh it was it was awesome man i fucking love it well did uh did i hear that philly santa get hit get hit with a golf ball i mean he was acting it up a bit but we so we have a whole we have a heckling hole that's one thing we've done the last three years one of the reasons i wanted that i wanted everybody at the event to feel what it feels like to be a philadelphia athlete right to feel how passionate somebody can be talking crap to you while you're trying to do a job so we uh we put hecklers on one of the holes our third year doing it and uh my guys did not disappoint some of the best philadelphia eagles fans and really philadelphia sports fans around my guy dunphy you know i'm not gonna lie i'm not gonna lie i'm not gonna lie i'm not gonna notice him oh yeah with the big old you notice the big old fanatic around the belly button you know maniac malloy i mean i can't list all these guys because i mean it'd be too much but they come out every year uh and support so shout out to all those guys and santa who's also one of the biggest fundraisers for uh eagles autism foundation this year so santa's been doing some giving uh but yeah he had a we had some exploding golf balls and he made look like it hit him in the eye oh we got a video so if you keep playing that i was on the hole over and i saw santa go down so i administered cpr you saved santa i i think i actually almost broke his ribs i mean if you're doing it right no we we had a blast man uh we had some outstanding celebrities there we had uh you know coach right we had phillies there we had some flyers there we had former eagles teammates of mine i mean it was it was an awesome awesome day uh raised a lot of money so uh shout out to everybody that participated thanks for coming got the swag bucket the swag bag bucket yep that's right swag bag bucket we had some some some takeaways little tom coin recently wrote a book sauce hank sauce hot sauce that's right that's right that's right some golf balls yeah i mean some standard things what about this this beer cart dude oh so we garage beer had a bunch of these made i got one in the garage dude you have one of these at the house i do dude it's fucking awesome we need to get you one as a fellow employee of garage beer we need to get you one dude this is so fucking epic dude they're fucking awesome they're fast as shit too well i don't want it to be going too fast how fast is this thing going i mean not like like they're getting up to 15 probably 12 15 miles an hour you're probably somewhere between 20 and 25 oh shit you better put on a helmet boys that's right we're gonna be drinking what's in that cooler i want to do it uh i want to take it down to the beach and ride around but i'm nervous i'm gonna get a ticket riding around a cooler with freaking uh uh electric uh motors on it but yeah it's a lot of fun well as long as you're not drinking the beers i think you'll be all right i mean how much is the ticket yeah yeah you can pay those things right yeah your license is suspended jason okay perfect i'm gonna okay all right that's it's a quite look like a fucking awesome time it's great kai was killing the ball kai's team came in second really do i think so i think having a woman is kind of cheating because you get it you get a t shot up there jason for a scramble no uh no it's no uh don't do that when she hits it well it's going like over 200 yards and she's teeing off in the red i believe it i believe it you're right you might need to make a rule next year that kai doesn't get to go from the red team i mean we also had a woman on our team and she was doing some great t shots it did we also struggled but anyways uh well i love it man shout out to b philly um everybody that participated man and looks absolutely electric and uh can't wait for next year man i gotta find my way to get up there and get a piece of this action all right now that does it for out of the house brought to you by home depot home depot has everything you need right they do all righty we're gonna get to our interview with caleb williams you're gonna want to check this one out um this conversation is brought to you by home depot by mentos gums so say yes to fresh oh i always say yes to fresh let's see what caleb has to talk about all righty our guest today is the 6.1 quarterback from the university of southern california he's the 2022 heisman winner the number one draft pick in the 2024 nfl draft back-to-back winner of gq's most stylish football player i didn't know that way to go okay last year he also broke the record for most passing yards in a single season for the bears 92 percenters please welcome caleb williams yes sir oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah welcome to new heights big dog dude gq's most stylish football player that's a heck of an award right there ever since you retired i've you know i've got them for you there we go let's go let's go you have a stylist no all me all me man i enjoy it i enjoy it yeah i i enjoy uh the fashion part of it throughout the you know towards the end of the week when when the plays start dying down as y'all know oh yeah are you like a creative you'll you'll throw it together last minute or yeah i throw i throw it together probably probably the day before we have to leave day before yeah smart man yeah there have been times where i'm just sitting there i know the bus is about to leave and i'm like what do i need just start grabbing shit you don't even know it fits yeah i'm a day before i'm a day before kind of guy and then i pack my bag and i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm and bring it to the bring it to facility so i can't go back yeah exactly there you go well we're in the off season brother i know uh you're probably back in chicago in the beautiful spring summer of chicago man the midwest baby doesn't get any better doesn't get any better how's everything going how's the team looking how's how's the vibes in the facility yeah they're high we're excited um it's a lot better coming back and you know the plays and you've got an idea of the plays rather than obviously having having the coach that we had you know how how tough he is and then um how much he expects especially the first year um you know going to training camp he expected us to know it like like we've been in the offense for two three years already so it's nice uh it's nice being back it's nice being with the boys um couldn't couldn't wish and and hope for any better weather than we've been having so i'm excited yeah i'm excited side town right now is booming you just said second uh season with ben johnson and to me watching it it just looks complicated oh yeah is there a major advantage to now having all that under your you know uh in your repertoire for a full year and kind of not starting from you know nothing yeah no no no there definitely is i mean like him and i like we we meet every day we we you know we go up and i meet in his office and we hang out and laugh joke we we talk about ball um and things like that but being able to get the call like right as of right now like we're not we're not really installing like full plays and things like that we're more rather details and the rookies just got there yeah the basic things that that that obviously help you win um so those so the small things and so but we're still doing like perfect plays we got the perfect play thing going on right now and um we're going out there we're calling plays and and we're getting in and out of huddle we're lining up we're getting to the ball fast we're we're you know going through checks and all these different things and you know last year this time we could barely spit out a call yeah right and so and so now it's it's uh it's been a lot more fun for me per se uh to be honest with you i think it's to be able to be in this position and then and then also i get to um be in a role that i haven't necessarily been in um my first two years um you know new coaches both years new offenses the comfort level but also being able to go out there and play and win ball games where it was important and so i've been able to step into a little different role has been been exciting for me that's awesome man yeah you fucking took it over man that shit was so fun to watch last year i know exactly what you're talking about uh in terms of just getting a new position in the playbook kind of thrown at you in a different way, though, because my entire career I've been with Coach Reed and the playbook and the terminology has been there but i had one pro bowl where i had to learn another offense in a week and when i tell you i was out there fucking running like a lot of people think i just run routes just like not what's called i literally was out there doing my own fucking thing mac jones is out there trying to fucking throw daggers to me and i'm running go routes gritty and down the field mac jones so funny man but that shit's fucking that shit's tough man the terminology is crazy and and especially when you're young man i can only imagine but um you fucking perfected it dog yeah no appreciate that we got we got a lot more coming and i'm excited about it but uh it's it's uh it's coming together the guys are moving you know and you know outside at least you know wide receivers tight ends and running backs they're they're flying around joe tooney's not flying around do i got any need to get on joe joe's always flying ohio ball player on a more serious note you guys had so much success in year one with ben what is the focus now for year two right like what is what is the offense what is what are the things you guys feel like you need to get better at oh man take that next step it's it's something you know you're you're so frustrated and at this process now you're obviously going back and you know watching the tape and you know you get clips that pop up whether it's a miss you know miss passes you know drop pass or um you know the run like we're not hitting the run how we want to and um i think that falls under the first year like impression the first year like in the offense the first year you know first year of it and you know you go back and you're watching it's like why did i do that it was so stupid right like how did i miss this pass it was it was or how did i not see this or why you know same same thing for wide receivers running backs and everybody else uh first year in the offense it's it's uh it's more frustration and then you realize like it's our first year obviously you know that year's over and and and you know we did a solid job but there's there's so much more left on the plate and you're so excited about that part of it and that process coming back and and figuring it all out so um i think that's the the process that we're in now and you know being able to go back and and be frustrated about it um but not too frustrated obviously because it's it's in the past we can't do anything but you know being able to try and change and and be different from the year before and be better i thought your transformation in particular and especially i mean some of the most well you've always done that your whole career is make these insane plays down the field but yep you know in philly this year they're going to talking about jaylen being more under center and like how that offense and the motions and everything is going to change for you what was that process like and how long did it take you to feel natural doing this new system yeah i mean you you obviously get to a comfort level throughout camp and then you get into the game and it's like fuck okay this is a little different you got obviously different bodies around different checks different alerts different you know hand signals and all these different things that um that apply for just that week and so uh being in this offense and a bunch of motions a bunch of shifts we shifts in motion i mean every play every yeah for sure like every play it's yeah you have to it it's it's a positive for us um and and so i've been able to obtain all of that and get into all of that i would say honestly it probably took uh that vikings game or that that after the second game to kind of get in the same page with ben and then from there i you know the confidence of myself started growing and then i think that's where it started taking off and people started seeing some of the some of the things that you know i can do and we can do absolutely well fun as hell to watch i know that i can't wait to watch you too i'm juiced to get back the play that's in my head right now is that i think it was uh it was a fourth fourth down play in the playoffs and you're rolling left and somehow you fucking got your upper body to square up and your legs are still your hip everything else is like pointed towards the sidelines it's so fucking fun to watch did you did you play like baseball growing up or what like did you play other sports it was always football or yeah so i so my second sport is swimming it's my second sport okay all right yep yep how does that help you throw uh so all the all the power and and rotation things like that yeah from the legs you obviously build a bunch of bunch of strength through the legs but also just the rotation and um the strength uh from upper body also you got the double joints and shoulders and shit not fully double jointed but i got my shoulders i got a lot of a lot of room were you freestyle time out were you freestyle breaststroke what were you backstroke freestyle i am in relay oh my gosh yeah yeah yeah doing all of it i was doing all of it i was doing all of it um but then i played other sports soccer uh hand eye and things like that being able to move and um uh what else have i played swam soccer a little bit of basketball that was when i was younger i'm not i'm not as good now uh as we saw a couple other sports but no never played baseball i don't and i don't know how i got all the funky throws i think it's from swimming just being able to have the strength in the shoulder but um yeah no baseball just playing backyard ball baby yeah backyard ball jackpot and and and running away from you know all my friends that were older than me i know it far too well you develop a lot of skills doing that absolutely i saw you not too long ago out in la but i i really wanted to talk to you about uh the tight end room that you got man it's one of my favorites in the in the entire nfl um you got two absolute dogs i got a third one now y'all haven't third one now yeah yeah there's more there's more there's more i know ben johnson's having a blast with this there's always more there's always more uh yeah yeah yeah we got it we got a new guy new rookie guy he's built like the other guys also um tall um he's he's smooth he's you know he's a freak in nature um run block pass pass block catch all of that so whatever you need yeah whatever we need and we got three of those now so uh we're juiced i'm juiced um it's always an advantage when you can have one tight end uh but when you have three that can do all you know it's it's a big advantage and and up to us so i'm excited i know we're you know over here in the bear side of town we're really excited so it's gonna be fun fuck yeah oh yeah man alive dog there's nothing better than getting out there in a little 13 personnel nothing better and then you and then you shift out because yeah we spread it out let's spread this out yeah yeah yeah it does feel like most of the really um i'm trying to think dynamic offenses utilize tight ends tom payton obviously you know he's still going but trav and and pat and you know all these all these other guys that that have that have come up joe and you know all these all these other guys so um you know i think uh i think i think we got some good going over here i got three of them like i said so i got i got i'm uh i'm very lucky well what do you think from your perspective as a quarterback what do you think about having the tight ends that you have like what do what do they present in terms of challenges for the defense and what do they give advantages for you guys yeah yeah i mean advantage wise i mean we can we can drop back and put those guys in protection yes um we can also go 13 personnel and and then shift out you know they get in their big heavy personnel defense and guys that don't cover as well guys that aren't you know cover guys or whatever case may be and you know we we pop out and shift out and we got guys that can run and and run well and you know obviously catch well so um yep that's a that's a that's a big up for us big advantage for us and we end up doing that in a big moment last year in the playoff so a bunch of big moments yeah yeah yeah so um you know obviously colston popped up a few times in those cold pops up um and big moments you know i mean vikings game i think the first time vikings game hit him for a 25 yard pass down the right seam and and obviously made a great catch for me yeah big big big catch so you know we we got we got some guys and you know i think i think obviously having been you know at the helm is uh you know he's gonna cook up this year with with having those guys yeah you were just saying you meet with them all the time no we meet we meet every day are you drawing up trick plays yet when what are the key yeah we talk we talk about plays every day uh we talk we talk about plays and and how we can you know make the plays better how we can read them better um we're always trying to find more explosives i know probably andy does the same thing trying to always find more explosives like even in the base plays like how can we fix maybe one route that changes the whole thing but um it becomes maybe a base play for us but it's super explosive super efficient and and that's always what ben is looking for yeah always looking for the the little things that you can make it like make a play feel more new and yep and and be just a little bit more that a that a team you know is unfamiliar with man and yeah i every single offseason i'll i'll go up say what's up to coach reed and his office and he's just got index cards just stacks and stacks of index cards man yeah yeah i walk up into ben's office sometimes and it's just his board and his desk is just filled with papers board is filled with different drawings and things like that madness man madness madness we just got the schedule a couple weeks ago eagles week three oh yeah monday night football baby monday night we got a bunch of prime time thanks against the lions oh yeah i'll be sharing that day with you as well and uh christmas day baby day are you christmas day or christmas eve i fucking love it man we're gonna be practicing either day i'd rather be i'd rather be playing the actual game yeah man we got a bunch of prime times game uh prime time games and um you know uh so-called the you know the hardest schedule we had the second hardest last year so um we're excited um we don't back down from no challenge hell yeah and so you know we want everybody to know that going to the playoffs and things like that is in our in our our future and you know in our in our present future and and future coming up and it's going to be a consistent thing for us but obviously we got to do the right things to put ourselves in those positions um and so starts now um and then it finishes in uh february so um you know we're excited about about all the opportunities coming up and as dion says it's prime baby shout out the prime time that nfc north man is gonna be a lot of prime time it is loaded it is loaded that comes with having one of the toughest schedules is that you got six games right there yeah yep yep so uh i think it's gonna be really fun honestly um being able to bring that type of energy prime you know prime time games to chicago or wherever we're gonna be um i think it's you know that that energy is is gonna be really uh infectious and we gotta we gotta make sure we use it the right way all right well can we uh walk through some of your plays from this past year we got at least one clip although we just deleted it so we're gonna delete it so i don't know if we do we have time i'm assuming we have time all right um we're gonna go through some of the most insane throws from last season my throws are just overall no no this is all you baby well they happen to be your throws i think they are overall some of the best this is the game wow dj top baby for the dub oh we got just a compilation of them just chuck it up dog just just chuck it up hold on though what what's the corner doing here how how what's do you sit back and you look at sometimes the reaction i actually saw who was on cole i got when i flipped around i created enough space to when i flipped around i saw probably 10 people to the right and i saw just cole and 14 to the left and 14 is a is a smaller guy and obviously cole is six five two one of the biggest dudes on the fucking field 260 and they were near the front front end zone so my whole thing was just try and put this ball in the back end zone and i was like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be in the back end zone and it's our best shot to try and you know make a play and and and make it easy on him so end up being able to create enough space get enough leg power into it and and uh you know just put the ball up in the back of the end zone like cole do the rest is history yeah i have no idea how you got enough on that one yeah we're treating like that that was crazy in the in the cold man are you kidding me doc have you ever felt soldier field that electric said you've been playing there that place went nuts not even this play the national anthem was the most electric national anthem i've ever been a part of it was like the whole city came together it was insane i fucking love it man this is personally my favorite throw of yours from last season this one was outrageous the nj play that everybody talks about on my legs or air jordan or whatever it was like just drop it it in the fucking bucket dropping a dime rolling to the left that was dope yeah it was pretty fun what's the next one browns we had to put a browns highlight in a little cleveland action we 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as a freshman come on man and led the largest comeback in the history of that game did you know going into it you were uh gonna take that game over did you just feel the juices or what i did i did i did uh one of my one of my really close friends he played there um you know he's trying on a bunch of teams jaleel farouk he played there a couple more years he went to maryland things like that but um we were standing on a bench right next to each other on top standing on top of them the big old white benches we're like turn the ball over we're getting you know whether it's interceptions fumble turnover and downs things like that and i look over at him i say the legend of caleb begins and then i swear fire me up i swear the legend bro and then i step on the field and then i go for the fourth down run and i was like there's no way because i've been waiting on my moment to like play and um things like that and then i was like there's no way i'm gonna get tackled like i i will not get tackled here and i end up breaking it for how many every yards i ran for and then uh you know i ended up finished the game off we came back and one of the coolest games coolest moments for me and everything else so iconic man yeah man yeah i've had i've been a part of some cool games freaking babe ruth style calling your shot all right well let's do this all right there was a moment last year that i want to bring up that i thought was just a complete lack of class i don't know i don't know who takes their shirt off at a football game but are we gonna get ben popping his top off more this year like is this the thing that's gonna stay with me i don't know what's going to happen next year i don't know i don't know what's going to happen next year i don't know what's going to happen next year i don't know what's going to happen next year we're looking at a photo right now and it's epic it was like pandemonium in the in the locker room it was just when he started doing it we just lost our it was a great moment it was like yeah yeah look at him he was everybody's going yeah i'm juiced in the back this is our our t-med he's our um eq and uh he's just in the middle just freaking he's the best man but yeah it was it was a great moment it was a great moment he was ben ben didn't do it early in the year yeah he had it he had to lift a little bit more at some point at some point i started seeing him in the wave room right before we got to practice getting a couple squads getting a couple you know lifts and things like that and then he was working for this moment yeah he was working for this moment for this moment right here i mean i didn't know it it paid off it paid off striations i mean you're seeing striations he brought a lot of juice to to us i think this was us going nine and three i think or something like that and it was it was uh it was a good moment being able to obviously you know beat beat such a really good team and organization and things like that so um it was a it was a it was a fun moment that's awesome yep taking your shirt off is always a electric thing to do at a football always what's the best iconic chicago food we got deep dish we got the chicago dog a little uh italian beef i actually and i don't know if this is like a iconic thing or whatever but i just had a chicago tavern style pizza tavern style pizza honestly the best pizza i've ever had in my life oh you what you want to shout out the the pizzeria zarella i don't want to zarella z-a-r-e-l-l-a i think is how you spell it it's insane it's actually insane what's the difference between deep dish and tavern style pizza uh it's thin they're cutting like squares and then it's uh crisp like the the bottom is like flaky so it's like a slight crunch when you bite in so and it's killer it's absolutely i love some good pizza pizza man oh yeah get up there if you ever found you find yourself in south side chicago uh mr b's old-fashioned donuts if you're into donuts honestly i was a a lineman at heart i just i didn't get the body you know there we go so i i love food man i i'll dive into it what is it again mr b's old-fashioned donuts is in south side mr b's old-fashioned roseland area roseland area okay sweet who gave you the ice man nickname i think it was dj dj moore i believe dj gave it to me and then the boys just ran off with it yeah there we go yeah it's fitting dog yeah um shout out to dj moore part of the uh 2024 qb class that includes a record six first round picks oh yeah um and everybody is well just about everybody's ball you got to the end of it and you do you guys keep in touch or is there a group chat between the the fellas or nah it's it's all you it's cutthroat over here on my side yeah we got to play versus each other at some point we follow each other and things like that on on social media it's it's no bad blood or anything like that but um every once in a while you know like rare blue moon we all reach out at some point throughout throughout the time but nah it's not it's not too much communication going on all right this next question you already said you haven't been on a boat uh are you interested in taking the chicago architectural dude i have to i gotta rent out a boat uh i have to i've heard about it for the past two two and a half years so i gotta i gotta do it at some point it's an epic city that it's one of my favorite cities ever man and it's it's so cool that the water is just so fucking beautiful it was so beautiful we grew up in cleveland and with the with another great lake beautiful water it is the best beach is in the midwest but uh there's something about lake michigan on in chicago that's just fucking magical and it's just so beautiful it's all right man one thing i always liked about chicago is it feels like chicago of all the cities in the midwest was built around the water the best yeah we call it the ocean i call it the ocean i mean it kind of feels like big blue big blue ocean no sharks though no sharks no alligators so it's the best honestly the best lake or best body of water you could probably be in yeah yeah all right well um do you have a welcome to the nfl moment yeah i uh it was versed uh houston is versed houston and their and their defense really good defense i mean really good defense and uh i got tagged up that game a good amount who was it was it was it uh it was first was it daniel oh man he he swung i think it may have been like third play of the game i don't really remember he got charlie he swung around the corner and smoked i mean i went i mean i was like a dead body midair though like i got hit and i like everything like flowing yeah i flailed um so that one that was probably uh that one and then actually the the rams it didn't it doesn't look like it but i got smoked i was running on the right sideline it was on the two minute drill it was a verse no it was um it was 53 land land man oh yeah landman uh landman yeah he's throwing his weight around for sure he put his helmet right in the middle of my chest and it stopped it stopped everything i was running forward we ran right into each other on the sideline and everything stopped halting me i was like oh my god i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die and i went backwards getting squared up man yeah you gotta stay away from getting squared up but my chin strap was like covering my nose like it was i was getting some oxygen it was it was ugly it was ugly nothing like just getting absolutely rocked out smoke well our last thing is uh we got a bit of new news that we want to hit these uh the people with man you're officially the cover of ea sports madden nfl 27 what is freaking go man speaking of the jordan like obviously everybody knows the the air jordan like the sunrise of of of him you know throwing his you know air jordan with the skyline behind i was like i want to recreate it football you know kind of bring it back 30 years later how many ever years later so we did that one and and and this one obviously had to go in this one this was a really cool photo shoot so appreciate everybody honestly um to to madden and ea and all of that it was really cool shoot everybody had to go in it and i was like oh my god i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die it was great um they were all easy um they were all pros and and they're in their realm and respective realm and so um obviously a childhood dream i was gonna say where i do you grow up as a gamer or what oh man i my game is my game is right here right here ready to go ready to go i love games it's it's something i do like just to go home and sit down and relax and not worry about anything and still get to compete and all of those different things so um childhood dream man i mean honestly mike vick being on the cover a couple other obviously john madden and you know john madden covers and all these different things so it's gonna go up for sure and right next to it's probably gonna be one of the newer trophies for me being able to put it up right next to all those other cool cool trophies i have and accolades i have um like i said i mean dream come true and they never had two back to back so let's see if we can that's my already yeah yeah that's my thing um see if i can go and you know make it back to back this year do we know the rating yet no i don't i don't know the rating no hopefully it's a 99 for being the cover and then i get like some other i feel like if you don't get a 99 for being on the cover yeah i don't know i got some work to do then yeah i'm trying to get up there with mr golden cleats all right now yeah i've had a few 99 99s i said i'll tell you what man madden they they do it right with uh oh yeah let it go guys get the the like i don't know just like the the honor of having a 99 it's such an iconic game and everything like that iconic game iconic moment i still there were about three or four years there where they were giving out uh chains 99 chains yeah you still got oh oh yeah i still got all of my okay yeah of course gotta have it all i gotta keep it all yeah it's so epic man the icy 99 is crazy i do gotta say they did give us the ratings do you want to hear your rating yeah or do you have us your rating 91 still 91 still got it still got it baby still in the 90s let's go baby caleb i gotta say this this feels low for somebody on the cover hopefully but still a very high rating okay 90 90 okay i can well end of the year be 99 it's all right i gotta say i got so mad i know i never really looked into my rating one year and then somebody told me my rating but then here's what it was it it was the first time i ever saw it fully yeah you know what i mean like it wasn't just the overall it was like where i was like bad at and my toughness was like a 60 and i was like listen you can downgrade me for run blocking we probably won't be able to use that we probably won't be able to have still hurt yes it is uh it is crazy how the game has changed and how the ratings update they they go with the season yeah yeah it's it's cool it's it's uh it's a cool thing so i plan on i plan on being up there with trav at 99 by the end of the year all right now all right now i'll work on my i'll work on the movie i'm saying see if i still got the juice man caleb man can't thank you enough man same here appreciate the time uh congrats on the madden cover that's epic shit dog and uh congrats on year two man we can't wait to see what you got for year three yeah i can't wait to see what you got man year year what is this year 13 what is this 14 14 yeah 14 gotta put respect on that no you already know man i'll do my best to see you in la this year dog yeah absolutely hey jace can i get one of those uh hawaiian shirts you always wear oh i got you i got you i'll get you a real good one hell yeah hell yeah you're the best dog we'll help you get the three times gq's most stylish there we go i may wear it for a game you never know you're the man brother thank you so much yeah absolutely appreciate y'all all righty thank you to caleb williams once again that conversation was brought to you by mentos cup all righty that wraps up another episode of new heights thank you to caleb williams and also shout out to randy moss our episode of chasing 10 is out now you want to check that out he showed travis and i everything there is to do with bass fishing which was was a lot because we knew absolutely nothing so shout out to randy that was a blast that does it for this episode folks once again new heights a wonder show brought to you by enterprise that's right follow the show on all social media at new heights show with one s for fun clips throughout the week and thanks to our new heights production team for always keeping us organized making us look way better than what we do and then thank you to the 92 percenters peace you Bye.