My Unredacted Interview with The Leah Files

Hey what's up everybody um so I guess my name is all over this controversy on X the typical X drama because I didn't release a certain episode and that episode is this woman the Lea files who I didn't release it because personally I think she is a total fraud and full of shit and honestly I also didn't release it to help her save face a little bit but whatever we'll release it so yeah she comes on here and I guess she was in some black program at the CIA that tracks down money trails financial stuff like that but she gets here and like spent way too much time talking about the polygraph which is not really a big deal because everybody almost everybody over there has to take a polygraph and she spent so much time on it that I it just made me think like did you like research how to do a polygraph or what goes on during a polygraph before he got here to make yourself sound legitimate and then when we got into it there wasn't really any groundbreaking stuff definitely no money trails which is supposedly her expertise so anyways I didn't release it but whatever now is a bunch of stupid internet drama and people on X talking shit so all let you guys be the judge and I will release it and so it's out if you're seeing this it's out now and so I put two versions out though there's another version on X where I just released the whole thing one constant stream of video no camera angle changes none of that that way you know there's no cuts nothing got redacted no names were pulled nothing's all in there even a couple of things I didn't really want in there but whatever it's out there now so anyways oh and then one other thing I guess there's also something that got I guess she took my public LinkedIn profile and and made a post out of the companies that I invest in and tried to make me sound like I don't know and so anyways yeah I post all the companies that I invest in publicly on my LinkedIn because I believe in those companies and I think every single one of those companies I think except for one I've had that person on the show a lot of those companies support the American war fighter I used to be an American war fighter still would be if the time came and they needed me but I'm always going to support our troops and companies that are innovating things that help save lives and and create a better war time environment for the side of our troops I'm I'm just I'm I'm always going to support that so I'm not going to apologize for it I guess maybe ran or Leah or whatever name is must have learned how to follow public LinkedIn profiles in their CIA training incredible but anyways that's pretty much all I got to say ladies and gentlemen the Leah files I'll let you be in the judge if she is full of shit or full of truth cheers Leah welcome to the show thank you excited to be here very excited excited to have you so you're uh I heard you set the internet on fire a couple days ago somehow somehow yeah well you're digging into all kinds of stuff so I'm excited to get it going but um so let me give you an introduction here Leah files you're an economist financial analyst and corporate intelligence consultant who has spent more than two decades supporting the US intelligence and national security community your career has included work supporting the NGA DIA NSA and CIA with a focus on financial modeling strategic excuse me strategy and risk today you run a corporate intelligence firm that investigates fraud deceptive executives hidden financial relationships and risks that traditional due diligence often misses welcome to the show what's the name of your firm a black widow global black widow global how long have you been doing that about a year now a year this business good yeah very grateful what's the uh what's the what's the why don't you know if you can say but what's the most interesting case you've come across so far in business it's getting more interesting but I did have a guy from social media reach out and he wanted me to investigate someone he was going to invest in that's typically what I what I do and we had a contract and then I was looking into the guys here in Tennessee actually very very shady the guy other guy was in England that I'm working for and he ended up dying two days three days into my investigation he was healthy 40 some year old guy he had just hosted his daughters sleepover and yeah they told me he died so very I think that was the most like jolting one of of it all I think it's something the various happened to him but wow you see that a lot no thankfully not in this year but I probably will yeah jeez what kind of I mean what kind of clients are reaching out to you so typically it's private equity that's how I started and law firms you know you do do diligence but numbers can tell any story that they want and if you don't trust you know you want to look more into it look at that CEO I mean look at Theranos look at we work so many companies that sell themselves to investors but then end up breaking down because they're just selling a story they're not selling what's actually behind the curtain and that's what I expose are they lying are they full of it what do their their financials actually tell you there's a lot of CEOs who will take investor money and just do wrong by it so private equity and law firms I do a lot of pro bono for women going through divorces whose husbands are hiding assets from them assessing where they would be hiding them find them for them so yeah it's so far those are my top clients where do they hide it the most it depends on the person like a common strategy if you if you look at who you're married to what did they start doing prior to the divorce do they have businesses because if they have if they have LLCs that's the most common way a crypto is becoming really big and you can trace crypto so you can trace crypto oh yeah crypto is actually almost one of the easier ones to trace on the public blockchain really well then what's all the what's the narrative about like this is what drug dealers use and all this other stuff well because if you move in between addresses it's when you cash them out that's where you get the person so the the means of cashing out that that crypto address but so you can you can trace so no matter how many transactions it's been traced or you can trade you can trace it so what are the what are the criminals do they just buy they just buy stuff with crypto they find places where they can just buy stuff with that and then maybe sell the commodity like gold like that yeah that's a good example they also you have to have their crypto address so they probably have multiple but if you once you get one you can trace it through the blockchain but you have to get their their address interesting well I got you a gift I've got me a gift same gift here they're John sleep gummy bears have you heard of them I've everyone was like see if you'll get gummy bears these are amazing made in Michigan I'm honored thank you I got you a gift I love gifts my husband picked it out he's a big fan perfect where we live here you we live next like near polo match King family their son is was marine and yeah you like black no I couldn't not not write a horse but I go I go watch about that's I've never been to one oh it's really cool yeah we're thinking about getting my daughter and horses oh yeah it's really cool so are you into them no do you ride I grew up on a farm and we had horses I don't I don't like them you don't like I don't like them I go to polo I don't think I've ever actually seen a polo match I literally go and I'm there to be outside so right on well thank you yeah and then one more thing and then we're gonna get into your life story okay that sound good so I got a patreon yes probably some people hang that's where they found out you were coming on the show but no patreon you know when I started this thing I couldn't get anybody to advertise with I made like no money and and like I was paying to do this and we started me and my wife started this in the attic and patreon was suggested I started patreon and so So, we did, and it's. Because of them that's it's turned into everything you see her today just from a small room in the attic and So they get the opportunity to ask every single guest a question. So this is from Meg Leah who are two or three individuals deceased or alive? You'd like to have dinner and and a discussion with Oh, that's a good one Anthony Bourdain Charlie Kirk and Tucker Carlson and Tucker Carlson and I and I think those three together would we would have a very riveting conversation How bad, but yeah, Anthony Bourdain Charlie Kirk and Tucker Carlson. What questions would you ask him? Oh, I Think Anthony Bourdain is good for his his ability to talk to people about pretty much anything and He'd be fascinating. I don't know what I'd ask him I don't know Come back. We'll come back to that. I think about that. Right on. I Go with Jesus Jesus. Yeah, I'd like to ask Jesus some questions. Yeah, but All right, we'll get to your story. You ready? Yeah, I know this is heavy It's all right. All right. Where'd you grow up? Raleigh, North Carolina. Well outside of Raleigh, North Carolina Roseville, North Carolina Rhodesville, North Carolina, Roseville, small town small one-stoplight Dude, that's even smaller than where I grew up one-stoplight 23 acres Next to tobacco fields went to the same School with the same people from kindergarten to 12th grade Wow Yeah, what populate. What's the population there now? It's because it's a suburb of Raleigh and Raleigh's blown up It's it's huge now. There's a bypass through it But back then oh, I don't know. It's just it was farmers. I can't imagine a lot 10,000 We didn't even have like a grocery store That's less than 10,000. Yeah My time was 6,000. We had a handful of stuff. Oh, then maybe I'll have to look it up. But So how what were you into growing up? What'd you like to do? So yeah, I don't I don't have like I maybe have four memories Maybe a handful of memories before I was 14 Before you were 14 14 Like I can remember more after 14. That's why I say 14 So I don't have I was the oldest of four. I have no recollection of Any of them being born or even their them miss kids And my youngest sister is eight years younger than me. So I would have been eight So I don't know I didn't I didn't get to have fun. I had to raise them and Yeah, I don't know What I like doing You have no memories before 14. No like handful of fleeting ones Yeah, I know I was very abusive Talks at household and my brain blacked it out. I guess I Have yeah Zero recollection of most things. So Jeez do you want to go into any of that? Yeah, I mean we can I We can what memories do you have? I remember picking up the phone when I was young I had to be like four or five And calling 911 I like learned to call 911 my dad was incredibly abusive to my mom he would like be her very badly and The cops are at our house like a few times a week and I had to call 911 to saver. I just couldn't continue hearing it. So I have a memory of my mom dropping me off at the end of our driveway We had a very long driveway up to our house when we moved into the house that I ended up growing up in That was like when I was in first grade She dropped me off at the end of the driveway because we got kicked out of Chuckie cheese Chuckie cheese From a birthday party because she was so drunk and she drove me home And she dropped me off at the end of the driveway and went to rehab for like the third time and I didn't see her for like a year And that's really it um I lived in the desert with my grandparents. They they were gemologists and we mined opals for a summer when I was in like seventh grade I have memories of that and That's about it Wow Yeah, I've never been to anybody that doesn't remember anything before they were 14. Yeah I didn't know people had memories until I talked to like normal people and I was like I can't even remember my brother's sisters being born You know, it kind of hits you that like I don't I never thought about it, but I don't ever remember it Do you talk to your brothers and sisters? Well, my sister that's two years younger than me died in 2015 of a fentanyl heroin lace mix My brother and I Talk yes, and my youngest sister. I'm like their mom. I I raised them I To the best of my ability anyway, so I protected them and how do you know you raised them if you don't remember anything before 14? Because my parents were never there like I remember like I was driving them. I was cooking dinner. I they didn't have anyone else so I was always their Caretaker like took care of them made sure if something was wrong with my mom like she would be out of her mind and try to drive somewhere with them and I'd say no and these are the like A lot of my memories come from Stories they've told me and stories my mom would tell me Not my own memory if that makes sense like my sister remembers a lot She tells me what I did for her I would go to the school and like take care of her if she was having a bad day like crying I Didn't know I did that and I could drive these are all just weird things. I just don't remember so so what about after 14? Yeah, I mean the reason I say 14 is because I remember sitting I Remember sitting in my freshman English class and I looked at the clock and I was like 9 10 in the morning and I had just a weird feeling and then I go home that day and My parents were normally home and they weren't no one was there and I walk into their room and there's like a dog food all over the place in a vacuum and I'm like what the hell happened? And my mom ended up being in intensive care My dad had beat her so badly with 20 pound bag of dog food and a vacuum cleaner She ended up in the ICU unrecognizable and That was finally the day that she left him for good and Yeah, I could didn't recognize her but that distinct feeling and like it just all Ties together as far as my first like real real memory Yeah All right, so did you What happened when he left home? Like when I left for college. Yeah, I Didn't want I got recruited high-ran track and field and cross-country and and I was really good and I got recruited to go to any school in North Carolina. I wanted But I wanted to be so far away from that environment that I chose to go to the University of Tennessee, Knoxville I ended up transferring to NC State, but That's what I did. I First rode out. I mean I ran to get out. I knew that if I didn't I Wouldn't get out of that. What was it like leaving your siblings behind? I mean for me I Didn't I was like I've got to go like Did I feel bad? Yes, but I also feel like I Had done my I'd done more than enough of what I could do and if I didn't take care of myself There was it was never gonna happen and and to be honest my sisters at that time my sister tears are gonna be had already started getting into like drugs and alcohol and I just couldn't be around I couldn't be around it my mental health. I needed to get out My youngest sister to this day is Very mad at me for that. I guess she sat there and cried when I left I didn't know the impact I had right like I didn't I just was going through the motions in survival mode. I was in survival mode and Yeah, she's like you left me and It's it's tough to think about but I I had to But you've forgiven your parents? Yeah, I mean, my parents were, they had me when they were 22. My mom actually was in labor with me on her 23rd birthday, so I guess she was 23. They're young, they're stupid. They should have never been together. And my dad grew up in a very toxic household with, his dad was an alcoholic and with a threat to kill himself, and from the time my dad was a little, and he was the only child. And whenever my mom would get drunk, she was an alcoholic, that's when they're, they would just, they're like, oil and water. And he never beat us, but the emotional abuse that I endured for always taking up for her, I was her protector, was a lot, it mentally was a lot. And then when she would get drunk, she would just like, be horrible to me. I was there punching bag emotionally. I would dump her wine, fill it with water, I would dump her pills, and I would just take it. She was abusive at times, but she was hurting. I don't know. To me, I just, I look at people and they're hurting, and why am I going to hurt you more? I felt really bad for them. I felt, when you see someone in so much pain, it's just, it's not them, so. How long did it take you to forgive them? I always, I forgive, unfortunately, very easily. I don't forget, but I forgive. I never didn't forgive them. They would do it, and I would just be there again. I don't know why, but yeah, I never held anything against them, I was never angry at them. It's funny because I ran track and field, and my dad would roll up the windows in the car and smoke just to punish me. And like, yeah, looking back, it's like, I'm way too nice, but yeah, I was never mean to my parents, and they're both dead now. They died very young. And so I don't have any regrets, I just, yeah, just, I think I have weird levels of serotonin in my brain. I never got depressed. I never, I never absorbed it. But I think that's really important, and I, I took it, but I didn't absorb it. I knew that wasn't me, and then I knew that wasn't them telling me these things, right? I just don't absorb the insults because I knew they were coming from a bad place. And I, I think that's how I got through it. I don't know. I have this conversation with my husband all the time. He's like, how are you not just like depressed all the time? And I think that it's that. It's a mindset. It's like, I focus on what I'm grateful for now. I focus on what I have. I focus on what I can do and what I can control. And it really helps those, those moments of, it's not me, it's not personal. This is you, all right, let's move on to some other stuff. So you went to school and then you apparently got a job with Northrop Grumman, a major defense contractor. What were you doing for Northrop Grumman? At first, there was a small team of us that built these cost models for satellites in the sky, like software, and we are in these dark rooms, building models, it's a great experience, but definitely not me. How did you get recruited into that? How did you find that job? That's pretty high level. It seems like somebody right out of school. Yeah, I worked at the Cheesecake Factory towards the end of my college career to pay for my school. And I met a girl who was going to work there and she was a year ahead of me when I was like, that's cool. I didn't even know that stuff existed in DC, like I was so small down. And she was like, I'll call you when next year. Let me know. So I was like, hey, I'm applying. I applied like the FBI applied, I applied anywhere, American Airlines. And she was like, yeah, come for an interview. And I got the job. Which was crazy for me because they hired people from like MIT and Columbia. They hired economists and engineers. And I just never, this was something I had to get over. I never thought I was good enough. I just was like, I'm going to NC State. It's a great school, but it's not MIT and, yeah, but got it and got a T.S. right then and there. That was my first entrance into this world of, but the T.S. was easy for me. I had never been anywhere, I never traveled anywhere, I had never done drugs and it was easy. So it's got into the world that way and then moved throughout it. What else, what else did you do? So after the cost models, I was, they were like, do you want to join the special access program? That was my first experience of like, we worked in a vault and there were like 10 of us. And I was like, this is so cool, like there's levels above T.S. and the program that we did, it was my first introduction to, wow, government lies to people, government lies to people to protect them. Right? I think you know if everyone knew what the government does to keep our country running, it's not, you can't handle it, like it's, so that was my first, wow, this can be really cool. And then I went to Buzz Allen Hamilton. And I was at NRO, which was an agency that nobody talked about, nobody knew existed for a very long time. It's a contractor. I've really liked, I've had some clients offer me jobs and I only took one and we'll get to it. But I liked doing something different all the time. I don't like doing the same thing day in and day out. I think it's part of the trauma probably, but I just can't sit still. So I really liked popping around and going to all these different agencies and as you kind of move up career wise in the consulting world, you get access to some of these other projects and you see how it all works. And I got to see it from NGA, which is your geo, you know, your satellites and your NROs to your humans to your, you know, how it all kind of comes together to your SIGINT. It's very fascinating. So very grateful that I got to that around. Can you get into a little more detail on the kind of stuff you were doing or is it all? Yeah, we can get into detail for like maybe like at the agency, like CIA, DIA, maybe. So CIA, it worked for their CFO and Comptroller and we built, you know, to justify to Congress. They were like, hey, we're going to cut a fifth of your budget. We're taken away a base in Afghanistan, we're closing them down. So we can take 20% of your budget and they were having to make all of these decisions and not get their money taken away. And so that kind of transpired into helping them figure out what can we do? How can we build? We need to know what you're spending your money on so that you can then justify it to them while you need to keep it. And you really start to learn that our government doesn't, our tax dollars don't align to the mission that they're actually doing. Like, I think that's the thing that you realize there's, there's so much fluff in these contracts that they do work that doesn't actually do anything with CIA, wants them to do, for instance. So we had to uncover everything they were spending their money on, which was a lot, and then kind of piece it back together for them to tell the story of how can we get Congress to give us our money. So we did build the gold standard for how they did that, Odin, I adopted it. It was very cool, it was very cool because we got to get into like, directorate of operations and DS and how they move and where their money goes because where their money goes is where their priorities go. And that started me on the, the follow the money kind of journey. I think the money tells a better picture than what the story is that you tell people because the CIA goes and tells Senate, they're doing X, Y, Z, but their money tells a different story. So you start to see that. That gap. I mean, that sounds like there's a lot of controversy on your time within. intelligence agencies. So, which I'm not really familiar with because I'm not on social anymore. So, I don't really pay attention to any of this shit. But, um, so, I mean, do you want to address that at all or? Yeah, I mean, I think because there's not really any way to verify it, especially as a contractor. I mean, I was a blue badger for the DIA for a good 10 months before I was like, no, I went through that process of the testing and the psychiatrist and all that when I joined DIA. I mean, there are ways to verify it, but I, to me, I don't owe them. I don't owe that to some random person on the internet. My stuff that I talk about, people have a very hard time when someone comes out and, and blows up quick, which is what happened to me. Never in a million years thought it. Like, I didn't have social media prior. I'm not a very, I'm a very introverted person. Um, but I started talking about Epstein and the government shut down and just yelling about that and then finding all this other stuff and researching it. It was so fascinating to me. And people have such a problem with that and they just start to discredit you. And at first, it was really hard for me because I'm like, that's not your lying about me. Why would you lie? Why would I get on the internet and say I worked in the Intel community? And when I didn't, I, apparently people do that. Lots of people. I didn't, I didn't know that because to me, you can ask certain questions, ask about a poly, ask about what even a test you went through or what the buildings are. There's so many ways to validate that lying about it seems dumb. But I learned that it's an attempt to discredit me and that's okay. I mean, I have people in the Intel community who would come out, but I wasn't using my real name. So people got mad about that. Um, I can't find you anywhere. Well, no, and look what happens when you do. Like, I knew how evil people could be, which is why I stayed off social media for so long. I get on and within six, six months being on social media, I'm already using posts and pictures of my kids. Like, yeah, I don't like that. Um, so I did try to keep my privacy. And I know who I am. And I didn't feel like I need to devalodate it. And the people who follow me and look at my stuff, it's all bearifiable. I, I follow the money you can, that's the great thing about it. You can look at proof. So if you don't believe me, that's fine. But the discredit, the attempt to discredit people I've seen is crazy right now on social media. So I don't have it much to say to them. Um, think what you want. Yeah. Well, I know some of them and, uh, some of them have been after me for a long time too, apparently. But, uh, you know, I always think it's just best not to give them the time of day. Yeah, they don't deserve it. I, it's sometimes it takes, it takes me a minute. But they're, they're also coordinated attacks. You can tell, you can tell they're all doing it at the same time. They're reposting messages at the same time. They're using the same narrative. It's happening across multiple different groups of people. And so it's, it's an obvious, I mean, I think the green beret guy might have some mental issues. He sent me, he was blasting me about something and then he like sent me this long apology letter, which I don't, I don't care. And, uh, like I said, dude, I don't, I don't, I don't think about you. And then, and then, um, I don't know, maybe a month, maybe less than a month, maybe a little more than one, not long after he sent the big long apology letter, he started blasting me again. And he's just been blasting me ever since. I mean, I don't believe in it. It's, it's interesting to know how much real estate I own in that man's head. I'm actually kind of cool. It's like, wow, I'm actually controlling your life. And I don't even fucking pay attention to you. It's that pathetic. But I know. I hope that guy gets some help sometimes soon. I know. And it seems to be these ex mill, like, these ex-special forces guys coming after me. And it was when I had like, I, their first attack on me was a financial piece I had done on Corey Mills. Well, yeah, one of the other guys, he completely, these people are, I think this whole group is a little mentally unstable because I remember the other, there's another one that was on that pack. And he got into it with his wife or something. And then he started, he started like, posting all this shit of him. He was like, he was like emotional and like talking about this stuff going on with his wife. I can't remember what was, I can't remember what it is. But I was, I was just like, wow, dude, you're pathetic. And you are way too addicted to the internet right now. Yeah. You keep that shit private. You know, go to find a therapist or something. Don't post that shit on X. I think they take it out on people too. Like, what are your credentials? Why, why are you questioning mine? I compared mine. What are yours? Like, what, they don't, they don't have them. So it's like, this is your life now. Social media is your life. I don't ever want it to be mine. Like, I don't want social media to be the only thing I do. It's just not who I am naturally. But it is yours. And you're going to come for people for that. Yeah. You'll be exposed. Well, let's get away from this bullshit internet drama. So what's some of the stuff that you're uncovering? What's, what's, what's, you know, let's start with what do we got? Well, actually, let's go into the corporate intelligence stuff. So I want to talk more about what you're doing today. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, Black Widow Global. I'll see that I've tried to keep private, try to keep them very separate. My clients are very private. But yeah, support private equity, mergers and acquisitions. Those were my first clients. Those are the ones I really like doing. You know, you get your due diligence. And sometimes if they have a question, maybe they think fraud is going on a board, for instance, is fraud going on in this company and leadership? Can you, can you look into it? And you start by looking at the people. Are they even capable of it? Some people just aren't capable of committing fraud. So that's what I do. And I've uncovered a lot. I mean, CEOs who have bought private jets and not told like hidden them and vendor, vendor payments. And, you know, fraud that's happened across across leadership teams. Yeah, it's, it's crazy. It's a crazy world that is political clients. I've started to get political clients because of the media. I will help look into their their opponents and help them with messaging certain certain things about them. I don't, I don't do personal attacks. That's not what I find about people either. I'll do where they invested. Do they have they have they committed fraud? Does it look like they've committed fraud? Are they involved with another country or they invested in another country? We have so many of our politicians that are so many of our politicians that have allegedly committed looks like they're they're just openly committing fraud. And if you're going to do it with your personal life, you're going to do it in politics. You're going to do it with my tax dollars. So how can we pull that out and tell people? So I'm really liking that that role. And a lot of people on social media have asked me with midterms coming up. Can you compare components for us? Can you because I mean I'm of the mindset left first right is not there. Anyone's not Democrat and Republican anymore. It's it's America first and not. So who of the opponents is less shady? That's where we're at as a as a country. Which of our opponents is less shady? Well, speaking of that, Polly Market has the Democrats sitting at a 44% chance of a midterm sweep with your work inside the political operative space. What do you think about that? Yeah, I think it could be higher. I think the Democrats are going to sweep. And I'm not I'm not a Democrat either. So what do you think that? Because I and this is just two off off social media and messaging, but because the right has divided itself so much. It seems and they did it during the primaries fighting so hard against like Thomas Massey. You've divided the party and those people aren't going to go to the polls in the primaries. That was great for you, right? You're opponent one. But it's Republican or Republican. When you go Republican and Democrat, when you've got half the party that's like, I'm not going to go vote because the person you put in isn't who I want in. I'm not going to vote Democrat. So I'm just not voting. Well, you've just limited. And I think the Democrats are going to go out and full force. They're going to vote. So I do think that the division of the right is going to cause the Democrats to win. What do you think caused the division of the right? Like with Massey. Did you look into that? Oh, yeah. Did you look into that election? I mean, that was the biggest, what the most expensive election? and what do they say? - Yeah, the most paid for, I think they dumped 30. I'm gonna go with like 40, 45, if you were to look at it, all said and done million and two. Having Massey lose. I looked into the woman that they had that was accusing him. She was getting money for her school board, all of a sudden, I looked into Ed Gallery and where his funds were coming from. And it was obviously a paid for election. And, yeah, they won. So, that right there, that when Massey lost, I think that's what divided. That was like the straw that broke the camel's back. You have like the people who were screaming and saying, maga, maga, maga, Trump, everything Trump's doing is right. And people can see, like, no, he came in, like, people are mad about it. Are we gonna have self-awareness and address that? Or are we not? And they're not, and that's where the party's dividing. So, I think it kind of all happened. And I think Charlie Kirk's assassination almost was like the catalyst to it all. If you look back, that's what it looks like. What do you think? What do I think, why it's divided? Yeah, what do you think, why it's divided? I think it's divided for a whole multitude of reasons. I think it's, I mean, but, I mean, we can get into all of it, but I think it's divided, because the lies have been so blatant. Yeah. From the original campaign. That's what I think. I think that Joe Khan's resignation was maybe a big, maybe the first catalyst, not the first catalyst, but the first big, oh shit, you know. And how they treated him after that. Yeah, and just deceased wife as well. But I think it was, I mean, everything's pretty much broken now. You know, no new wars were in a big war. No new, you know, the maha movement. We're going to, we're going to save the food. Then we give, you know, the glyphosate company immunity. You know, we're going to hold all these social media guys accountable for the censorship. They're sitting behind everybody in inauguration. We're going to, like it, we're going to end the Ukraine war before I even get into office. Still going strong. We're, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're exactly right, you're exactly right. What are some more? The FC files. Yeah, the Epstein files, you know, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to hold people accountable for the Epstein files. The only names have been released are the victims. Yeah, all that stuff. Yep. No, I agree. It's, it's, it's a wild time right now in politics. And I couldn't have an opinion for so many years. Because when you're in that space, you're not allowed to have an opinion on politics. You have to keep quiet. Coming out of it and learning it all and looking back at the playbooks. Because that's, that's what you learn. Like at the, at the CIA, I was read into all of our programs that don't, don't ever become unclassified. Kind of the beauty of being that money person. And you look at our playbook and how we do it against other countries. And it's real hard for me as some of the no memories. It's almost like pattern recognition is the only thing I can rely on. And you see it being deployed on, on Americans now. And I think that is what is so scary to me. And why I even started on social media to yell about it. Because it's, it's happening. Like we're doing it and we're not even good at it. Like we fail multiple times. I don't know anytime we've really been successful. And now we're doing it to our own people. Like, I don't know. I, I want to rate, I want to, I want my daughters to be in a country where that was, like it was 10, 20 years ago at least. Dark but not whatever we are now. And I don't necessarily think it's just social media or access to information. That's causing all of this. I think it's a behavior of people. The fact that so many people get away with buying influencers. And they don't have to say who they are. But you're pushing a political agenda to do so. Well, did you see that big time article that just came out about the big, the big influencer campaign? The Brad, the, uh, the seven K upper. No, no, no, no, it was after that. I'll pull it up after this and, uh, re-review it and bring it to you. But actually, maybe we should do that right now. But actually first, so are you, you're, are you an economist? Yeah, I mean, so I want to talk to you about the petro dollar. Oh, because that scares the shit out of me. Yeah, you know, with, with the, with, with, I mean, you know, about bricks. I'm sure, you know, and what is it? UAE already said when they run out of dollars, they're going to trade in the Chinese you on. The straighter her moves now, I mean, we'll never be the same again, because what this war did is, I mean, now I ran nose, they can control it. And so I'm sure there'll be all kinds of taxes and that kind of stuff going through the straits. And, you know, and they've, it's, it's, anyways. So it's not looking good for the petro dollar. Can you go into that at all? Do you, do you, have you looked into that? I haven't looked into it as far as like what's happening now. And I, and I should, um, I need to spin on my list. I, I do have so many people who have talked about how it's, it's basically going to be the thing that takes over. What's going to be the thing? How, so I have a lot of people on social media talking about, we go after countries and they're tied to this. That it's all about the petro dollar. And I haven't looked into it yet, but so many people are concerned about it. I just haven't. Okay. Sorry. Oh, good. I can get, I can get info on it. But we're okay. So where do we move from here? Um, what do you mean like? Our conversation? Yeah. Let's talk about the TPO, the TPO or David Raj, the CIA guy or wherever you want to go. Let's go TPO, say. My favorite topic. Just in general. Yeah. Um, so it's interesting is Charlie Kirk, my kids had come home the day before. Their school has one of the largest TPOSA chapters in the nation. And they came home and they were like, everyone is hating on it. The protest outside. And I'm like, they're like, everyone hates Charlie Kirk. He's so bad. He thinks this and this and this. And I was like, he, that's not what he thinks. He, he gets people to talk. That's what I appreciated about him. I didn't agree with everything he said. But I appreciated how he got people to talk about politics. I feel like we've lost that art and it's kind of separated and divided people. And then the next day, you see that he is, he is assassinated. And immediately it was like, what? We mean someone shot him. It was crazy. But then I learned a few days later, maybe a week later, that he had asked for this doge like assessment eight days before he was killed. He wanted financials and operations to be looked at. And as somebody who works with CEOs, when they say that, they, they, they think something's up. They think maybe one of their executives is, is doing something. They think something's wrong with their company. It's not adding up because you don't ask for something like that. If, if everything's good. And so I was like, well, I wonder what they would have found. Let me just start digging into what would they have found? If they looked into the financials and they looked into the operations. Was there anything? And that is just what started to uncover everything. The assassination of Sykes says, I don't, don't like linking anything. It's not linked to his, his death at all. The financials of this nonprofit, specifically, it's a very well-funded. It has grown, I think, like 300 and something percent from the time it started. Just 2024 to 2025 alone, it went from 85 million to 115 million dollars. That's huge. Wow. And five donors give 80 some percent of their money. Who are the donors? So the, the Wilkes brothers, I think, like the branch, Bradley Fund, Robert Schillman gives it through this charity so that his name wasn't attached, but it came out that he pulled it $2 million two days before Charlie Kirk was assassinated. He's one, I would think Maryam Adelson, they keep them secret, it's dark money. It's very hard to figure out who the donors are unless you go and look at their filings, which is what I did, but I only found three of them. But you can see that there's five donors, so that was interesting. And then when you start to look at the vendors, that's where I go to first. If you're going to look at a financial form and you're assessing an organization, you go to the vendors first because that's the easiest way to hide money. Hey, I'm going to hire you, friend, I'm going to give you 300 grand to do marketing for me. Done. Now my friend gets 300 grand, I siphoned it back to me, and that's how a lot of people do it. So you look at their vendors. And when I started to look at their vendors, all of the LLCs were tracing back to friends or people inside of the organization. And I was like, well, that's strange, over $20 million. And so I'm like, well, this would have alerted me if I was CEO, where's my money going? In 2023, they spent more than they took in, which was crazy, because I think it was $70 million. And I think that around then, what did they spend it on? They spend it on these vendors that are marketing, they put out papers, they put out the things asking you to donate the campaigns, it's literally printed material, tens of millions of dollars. And the thing is, on the form, you only have to list your top five vendors. Then you have to tell them how many make over 100K, and on their 2024 form, they had five vendors that were getting paid $7 million. And the vendors that made over 100K, 62 or 64, so you have 64 other random vendors getting paid over $100,000, that's a lot, and you don't have to report them on that form. And I think that's where some of the LLCs live that I have found. So there's financial irregularities, because I have a fraud examiner license, it's a fraud person. So you're saying that these donors would funnel the money in, and then it would come right back out to the vendors, is that what you're saying? So the donors give them money? That's 60 something vendors are getting paid over $100,000, that's what, $6 million. It's at least $115 million dollar nonprofit, that's what they're making here. Yeah, that's what they're bringing in. And if you look at it, like I did a breakdown of, roughly 85, so roughly 85 million is kind of what you're saying is from a small group of three to five people. Yeah, I'd say like 70 to 85 million. They get not a ton from people, but most of their budget, if you look at it, most of their goes to these conferences and events that you have to pay to go to. How's that a nonprofit? Oh, did you, I don't know, did you, you had to pay to go to those, I've never been, but you do have to pay 350 for an adult and like 75 for a student or something. So you're spending tens of millions of dollars on these events, that your number one cost and people have to pay to go to them, isn't that, that's actually like not a nonprofit, right? It's interesting. Yeah, I would think, see, I thought he was doing all this stuff for free at college campuses. Oh, the college campus thing is for free, but they're like, am fast in all these big events that they have. Oh, okay. Or most of their money goes, you have to pay to go. And stuff. Yeah. So if you're a nonprofit, I'm just, it's very interesting to me that, and they have, I mean, if you look, they have four entities, it's not just TPSA, they have an endowment. They have their TPSA action, which is their political arm, and then they have the America's, and they just funnel money to them all. And then it goes out the door. So if you look at their behavior, it just starts to muddy the money, that's all it does. And you're like, why are you doing that? They have reported wages, three and a half million dollars, and they reported zero employees on one of their things, just like, I don't know how you're getting away with this, to be honest. And so all of that just led me down the path of who could be involved in this financial stuff, like who the LLC's traced back to, and it's all their executive leadership. And it's crazy. And so it's like, why did he ask? Maybe that's why. So are you saying that's why I think he was killed if he put in an inquiry to put in an audit? I don't think that's why it was killed. I don't think that's why it was killed at all. I think that the people who had motivations, if you were one, okay, we'll say it allegedly, if you were one of the theory that Tyler Robinson didn't do it, if you were to look at other people, and if you look at their motivations of what would they have covered up and why? Like, why would they be in on this? You look at their financial motivations, and you look at who had the most to gain. Like who's gained the most since his death financially? Rob McCoy, the pastor, who was part of TPSA faith, Mikey McCoy's dad, he's gotten a lot of notoriety, Tyler Boyer, Andrew Colvad, all of them, they've gained financially, not saying they had anything to do with it, but it's something that like, you should look at. It's probably getting me a lot of trouble. How they, I mean, what, what have they gained financially? What are they just sucking money out of the nonprofit now? Is it, or they did they increase their salary? How are they gaining financially? There are people in different ways, so Resolute Media, you know where they run this show out of that they still call the Charlie Kirk show, and they, that's a for-profit entity, and they're using the name and likeness of a nonprofit for the for-profit, and you have to pay royalty fees to do that, and they're not anywhere, there's no royalty fees being paid. And when you have Salem Media hooked up to that, that does the ads and stuff? I mean, I don't think anybody even watches that anymore. They don't. So that wouldn't be a big financial gain, but it is if their advertisers are paying them to push whatever messages, just like advertising does, push whatever messages, and all of a sudden the Charlie Kirk show started coming out against, against Israel, and they're pouring all this money into influencers. That's going to not look good, and then the donors start pulling out, and now they don't, they are 100% on the different page that Charlie Kirk was when he was assassinated. Just looking at it from that perspective, it's, that's how they'd make their money, advertisers. Yeah, but it still have to, I'm just challenging it, but I mean, they would still have to do. If there's nobody watching, advertisers aren't going to pay anything because nobody's watching. And I mean, I don't, I don't watch it, you know what I mean? So I don't, I don't know, but I don't, I don't know any, I don't, I know a lot of people that wanted to watch Charlie Kirk. Yeah. I don't know anybody that wants to watch the new folks. Yeah. I mean, that's a great point, and that's why I think, and so I would actually, I would think that they would probably be losing money, a lot of money. Yeah, I just, and she might be right, but the way that they operate on social media, it's not, so it's not just their show, it's, they're, they're pushing out messages on social media, helping politicians. So you think they're making the money for pushing narratives, not from advertisers. Well, yeah. But I think that their advertisers, you know, Salem media was their host and Radpar Scales, the one that gets, who are their advertisers? That's a great question. I don't watch their show, but Radpar Scale, who owns Salem media, was the one that gets, I think now he's up to $60 million from, from Israel. He's in Pharah. They pay him to push out the stuff. He's, and he's registered in Pharah. They were distributing the Charlie Kirk show. So pushing out that narrative, not necessarily advertisers, it could be that money, which is money to push political narratives. Do you know what narratives are pushing? I mean, they are, they are genuine, I don't, yeah, what they've been, I haven't, I don't watch them. I don't watch the show, no, but on social media, they push out. like the anti-fraud government JD Vance, that whole task force, they pushed that out really hard. They pushed out the Iran more, they're for it. Anything that Trump says, they push out. So definitely, pro-Israel, merging of the militaries is a good thing, things like that. It's no boy. A identity centers aren't bad. Things like that. They're just like, huh? That's interesting. I think there's big money to be made in that. If I was willing to sell my soul. Well, yeah, I'll come in with what they already caught them. What pen? I mean, I don't know who, but people, they're paying people with $7,000. $7,000 a post. 20 to 30 posts a month. That's a lot of money. And they're ramping up. Was it a post or was it a month or was it a week? It was a post. It was $7,000 per post. Do you have a list of who was taking that money? People are trying to work on getting it. I mean, you can tell me the far right influencers who have become so big and they went to the Tyler Robinson trial and came out and said, we saw the shot. We saw the shot. And then they had to bet they didn't. So anyone who said that and came out, so now. I mean, some of it, you know, like I think it kind of started with the, remember when all the influencers went to the White House and held up the upstein files and then it turned out that all that shit had already been released anyways. And it was a big nothing burger. I mean, I think that I don't think it's always money. You know, I think that it's, I think a lot of people, they get, they think they're somebody now because they've been to the White House. So they're around the president or the Vice President or the administration and they feel like they're part of something and then they start feeling powerful. I mean, all this kind of stuff. And, and I think that the, you know, I think that the administration can take advantage of that. Not just this administration, all the administrations, you know, and you bring them in, you have dinner with them. You know what I mean? And so it's like a capture. It's a capture because we got invited to a bunch of the shit. And I was like, no, we don't fucking do that. We don't need, I don't need to be in photos with them holding up. I don't think all these people are feds. I don't think they understand what's happening to them. I think they're overwhelmed with the sense of, of, they feel like they've accomplished something. They feel like they're big. They're a part of something. They feel powerful. You know, and they're overwhelmed with these feelings and, and, and their ego gets, you know, involved extremely inflated. And, and, and they can't see past it. They can't see past, you're being used. Yeah. Like once you're in that, you can't fucking get out. Yeah. Like once you have been there and you held the binder up, you're done. Yeah. Like you're on that team. That is it. That's it. Yeah. You know, and, and I don't think that's a payment. I mean, you could give a lot of people in a, a, a, a White House invite. And they'll be like, fuck yeah, let's go. It's the White House. You know, and, and it's, it's, it's, you know, it's a feeling of being, uh, entering a new, a, a, what, how do I say, like a new social level? Yeah, it's kind of advanced to the next tier. I've advanced to the top tier. Yeah. You know, and, I don't think that costs a lot of money. Maybe it does. I mean, but I think a lot of them are, unfortunately, very foolish and just got roped into something, you know, not even fucking realizing it. Do you think that's a possibility? I think that, I mean, your, your guess is as good as mine, but I do think that the White House is almost like, um, like an influencer event. If you're a beauty influencer and you get invited by a beauty product to go somewhere and they, they treat you well and you go, and then you go back, you're still paid to push that product. So going to the White House is almost just like a, getting everyone together on board, same page, but then you go back and you're paid to push it. I don't think they would do it for free. Hmm. I don't think they believe, I don't think they believe it enough. I don't think they believe actually. I think they maybe talk themselves into it perhaps. I don't think they actually believe the narratives they're pushing. You can't, well, they might not now. Yeah. But they were also, like I mentioned, they're captured, they're trapped. Yeah. No, I think you're right. It could have easily started as something that was innocent. I want to support the government government wouldn't lie to me. You can see a couple of them that have kind of backed off, you know, they haven't really changed to the narrative or, or, or their direction, but they've, some of them are not near as loud as they used to be. Do you have names? Like you. I don't like mentioning names, but we'll believe it. Do you see Drainel? You know, and I, like I said, I haven't been on and over a month on any of this shit, but because I think it's pretty worthless at this point, but, but like, I've noticed that, dude, his kind of like toned it down a little bit. And he was one of them out there, you know. He was one hole in the binder. I don't see his stuff pop up, so maybe he was very right though, right? Like he was very like, but on the flip side, that time article that I just was talking about, I mean, it, and I need to read it. Actually, let's, let's take a break. I'm going to go pull it up. 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I had a cloud do a little, I had to dub it down, dub down the article real quick. Time reports the Brad Parscale, Trump's 2020 campaign manager and digital strategist has been running a paid, far-regestured, influenced campaign inside the United States. On behalf of the Israeli government, aim squarely at young conservatives in the MAGA base. US officials separately suspect the same network amplified criticism of Trump's Iran ceasefire. Parscale desires that second claim outright. US intelligence official told time the unusual part is not that a foreign government ran an influence operation. Russia, Iran, and China all do. But the target not swing voters, not the general public, but the sitting president's own political base. The same official noted that if there is one Parscale, there are likely others. Have you heard about this? Yeah, I've gone deep into Brad Parscale's operation too. Um, he has multiple LLCs that do different things like nucleus sends out these tax I have some I did a whole conversation with their bot the other day, asking me about my my views on Israel and the US strategic relationship. And they're trying to convince people that Israel's protecting itself and the the bot even was just like, then they also do the paid influencers. Um, and that's why that's one of the operations that I think that the Charlie Kirk show is is operating under like we were talking about earlier. Do you think they're doing that? I do. Do you have any proof of that? Well, we have pulled up like the coordinated messaging. So, um, for instance, the ceasefire, the minute it happened, they all had the same sort of messaging and you can get it from the Andrew Colvetts and the Benny Johnson's and all of the people who are pushing these narratives, they have the same timing and the same words. And if you look for it, it's really easy to see that they're all doing it together. So I don't think they're doing it for free. And Brad Pascal's operation is the the biggest one. And they he has to report in far and you can go in there and I have just recently he's gotten more money and you can see every transaction that that they pay him a month it's gone from like three million to like 15 million a month. So, um, it's a well oiled machine that that they push out these narratives, but it's gone from three million to four. It's gone from three million. Like it's like 12 million a month now 15 million a month something like that. What is how much his companies get from this German advertising company is how they do it. Israel pays this German. I think it's called half the begins of the age. No pays is German advertising company who then pays the US so that technically you can say you're not getting paid by Israel, but you're registered in far under Israel. And that's how they're doing it. And so he gives the money to these influencers and they can say, I'm not doing this for Israel because technically they're not. Yeah, he has to report all of that. And the money has just grown. He registered in far just within a week of Charlie Kirk's assassination. And then the money has just substantially increased since. Yes. It's crazy. You got anybody else doing this or? Just me. I mean, I mean, who else has taken money like that? Um, so Salem media there. There's another. I don't remember her position C O O something like that. She's registered in far as well. Um, their operation. No one else. Do I think they should certain people should be absolutely. I think that. There are a few that should be registered in far, but Pam Bondy back in 2025. One of the first things she did when she got in was. You don't have to register in far unless you're literally an agent. For that country. She stripped the. The far requirements. Interesting. Let's talk about ways. Oh, yeah, the app. Yeah. What's going on with ways? A lot of people use ways. A lot of people. I used to ways. Um, somebody, you know, like 0.25 people or something percent to 0.25% of people read terms and services. Do you read terms and services conditions? No, I don't know. Well, in ways is terms and services. Somebody online read it. One of the unicorns. And it said in their clears day, it's run by Israel. It's run out of Israel and it's run by Israel. And if you sue them for any sort of reason, if something happens, you have to sue the app. You have to go to Israel to do it. You can't do it in the United States. And so when I looked more into it, I was like, that's really interesting. And Google bought it for 1.3 billion back in like 2012 or something like that. Um, but they didn't require ways to leave Israel. And they allowed them to keep their terms and services so that if anything happened, it was run out of Israel, but your data over there, everything. All of your data that you give ways sitting over there and the Google allowed that. And I was curious, I was like, how many other apps are like this? There are quite a few, quite a few that if something happened, like I know if you sue X and I only know this because another creator tried to do it. She had to go to Texas for her filing, like weird state things, but with ways you have to go to Israel and they're not like are you don't get a jury. You don't it cost you more to go to even do that. And I'm like, how does an app run a US based app? Everyone thinks Google owns it. How are they allowed to do this without telling you? Are we just going to put everything in these terms and services so nobody reads it anymore? Like, that's why I think the trust is gone. Like, do I have to read terms and services now? That's what it does. You all operated run out of and the three founders of it are former 8200 IDF 8200. Interesting. Interesting. I guess something you could do is just copy and paste all the terms and services and run it through an AI program at this point now that it's up and running. That'll tell you all the red flags. I think we could even like what I'm going to do is try to set up an agent to go and just search terms and services agreements and pull out any with red flags because there are some weird ones operating in the United States too. Then I don't think people realize what they're doing, what they're signing and be interesting to see how many so probably pretty much all of them. But this one, the Israel part was was I don't think Google is being forthcoming and I think if they told people when I told people so many people deleted the app, but you need to give people that choice. Otherwise, they lose trust in what you're doing. And is that where we're at? I don't that's the problem. What about the flop cameras? Oh, fuck. Have you do know like anything about them? You know, Nashville is one of the number one places that use them. You know that I do not know that. I've been waiting to talk to somebody about this and dug into it much. Yeah, but I know everybody's pissed off about it. Okay, so flock was founded by three Georgia tech students who they were like the license plate is the thing that helps you find the bad guys. That's that's your nucleus. So we should be able to track license plate stop crime. The intention was good. I think when they started it. Then they got some investors and those investors have taken them to new levels and they're selling them to police departments and everything and they're creating add on. Now the flock camera grabs your license plate. Great. Contract you. But now they have an add on called Nova, no flock Nova. And that add on now says, oh, this license plate is owned by Sean Ryan. And I now can link everything about him and from databases that we have open source. So your emails, LinkedIn, all the stuff you can find open source. Okay, your address, that's not great. But they've also this hacker, white glove hacker found a vulnerability where they actually were also getting information from the dark web. So that means that they're getting your bank account to and they're getting your social security number and they're able to have that by you driving by that's no longer. We're going to get into this preventing crime that's starting to look like surveillance and then they've also partnered with this other company and that company can read Bluetooth devices. So if you're a passenger in that car and you have Bluetooth device now they know you're riding with it, they're putting it all together and then they'll know everything about you because of this Nova add on. And so at what point does it stop being your stopping crime and start being surveillance and you're building the surveillance state right under people's noses. And I think that's what they're concerned about. There are so many technology advancements being added to what could have just been something to stop crime that is now getting information on people innocent people. And that's the problem and we can pull it up. I'm going to show you this because I think that people would really like this. I could be there there. There is a website called have I been flocked. I suggest everybody go to it. And in this website, it's just these activists who these activists put together this website that pulled the audit log. So police departments, federal agencies, anyone who accesses flock to look for a license plate, they've foiled. They've gotten these audit logs. It's not the most of today. I think it's like a month or two old and they don't have everybody. But they have. We have over 430 million hits. And so if a police officer is going to look up your license plate because they think you're doing something nefarious, it will show in here. And what they do is they put in their number and they put in the reason that they're looking up your plate, right? Because we can't just look up random people for no reason. And what this audit log is finding and have I been flocked shows you all of this. You have 426,940,000 records in here, okay? You have almost 4.7 million plates that have been searched and 9% of them were for crime. And 9%, the other 91 were for other reasons. Like that starts to really negate the whole, are you really using it for crime? And they found that, "Hommie, pull up the stuff." And these are really interesting. Okay. I have my stats here, I'll feed you. Okay. Okay, all right, okay, 84.2% of all of the searches, over 4 million, have no case number, which means that they're not tied to an open case of, "I can look up your license plate. There's a warrant for you." 84%. The single most common search reason is blank, nothing. The median reason is only 8 characters long, which just means they're typing something in. And 66.3 million searches have no reason recorded at all for why they looked up your license plate or information on you. I think that's crazy. And the biggest users, the National Tennessee Police Department, and Harris County, Texas Sheriff's Office. And they also found that hundreds of thousands of these searches were done by people who weren't authorized to necessarily do it. So your login information was used by your buddy. And everyone can go to have I've been flocked, and they can look up all of this information. Like the audit logs, you can go search for your own license plate number. I'm happy to put one in and see if you've been searched. It'd be interesting to do some Nashville ones since you guys use it so much, because it's like, why would you be looking me up? I don't do anything. So I think it's a really valuable website they're putting together, and they have all of this data, like how many searches actually apply to crime? How many, what's the most searched reason? I mean, they're searching people who go to protests who are seen at protests. And I think that combined with the surveillance aspect of it is where we start to get into, we need to fight this. And then Trump coming out and saying, AI data centers, you're just going to have to let them happen. Like, I just, yeah, it's, it makes you wonder the purpose of flock. But LA, just recently, people are fighting this successfully, and this is what I think is important. I'm a big advocate for like justice. You can fight this still. There are towns that are getting rid of them. There are towns that are without destroying them. There are towns that are voting them down, and they're winning. LA, which was one of the biggest users just in July, just this month, they're having to, they're going to get rid of them because of this new technology and the capabilities that it has, they can't be trusted. So yeah, I think that's why people are concerned. And I think they have every reason to be concerned. Interesting. Have I been flocked.com? So who, who does have access to the, is it, is it just PDs or what? Interestingly enough, PDs and you'll see federal agencies in here, like there are some FBI bureaus in here, but they were in a pilot program nobody knew about. They weren't supposed to have flock isn't, it's for states, for police departments. So they got caught though when they foiled for these, these records. They got caught it who was participating in this from a federal level. Which it would make sense, right? I need to access to your cameras, but yeah, police departments, federal agencies, those are who, who's accessed in this log. And you can see everyone. You can see if they're in your city, if you're in your town. It's a great website, but it, it also is a website that shows you the auditability and, and what they're really doing with this and there was a sheriff caught for looking up a woman who's, who's going to have an abortion. They, he looked in three states, woman abortion, flock, camera, like I just, it's been reported that there are sheriff's or, or people in police departments who are using it to go after ex-girlfriends, look to see what they're doing. And that's, when you don't have the right guardrails around it, that's where I think they get into. Does an LPR do the same thing, a license plate reader? No, no, and not unless it has this attachment on it, because you can, the Nova is an attachment to flock. It's flock Nova and they don't have to have a procurement to show you they bought it. So you don't know which flock cameras have the capability to look you up or not. And I do think that whether it does or not, technically if they had your license plate, they have your name, they could do it, but they're creating this database, all in under the guise of stopping crime. So if, let me ask this, because I, I don't like this either, but I can see some benefits. You have kids, right? So what, what if one of your kids was kid-dapped and he had the license plate and he got it to the PD and they ran it through the flock system? Can they track real time where the vehicle is and where it is? Yep. And they even have a drone capability that I read about that they can deploy to up to like 30 feet or something to follow the car. Absolutely. I think I'm a big advocate and I'm a big, also a person that's like, if you're not doing any, I understand the argument, if you're not doing anything wrong, why do you care? But there is a line that is crossed and if they were using it for just that, great. But when you look at the audit logs, they're not. So what would you like to see done? Would you like the flock cameras to be eradicated or would you like there to be better guard rails? I think it's interesting because I think we're in a state in our country where it's like trust is just at an all-time low. There is no trust. There is no trust. I have zero trust in any government institutions, none, zero, same, same, nothing. And it's so disheartening but it's where we're at and because of that, I don't think it's either or I don't think we can have flock cameras with proper guard rails because we don't have trust in the people setting up those guard rails. They would abuse it. I think that I think maybe even the baby boomer generation is starting to lose trust. Oh. Not all of it, maybe 25% of my grandmother like, I have no idea but I am, I'm, I'm, I meet some that are, I mean, there is getting to them, you know, and so I think it's a slow, slow process. I mean, but, but even that, if that generation is the only ones that have any trust in the government, maybe I should say like that, they're the only ones that have any trust left in the government. Yeah. Is that generation? I agree. And it's got to be tough for them. I mean, to be at that age and realize, you know, to come to terms with everything that you've ever been told is a fucking crock of bullshit. I mean, that would be tough. Your entire world gets flipped upside down in what a year. Yeah. And why? Why? You're not open to it. They're not even open to the possibility because it would, if they would shatter everything that they know. Yeah. I think my grandmother is in complete, like I talked to her just a month or two ago, like I went to visit her. She always has on Fox News and she was like, I'm not having any of it. Like, you do realize things that are going on, no, but they're also, she's also 89. And so it's just like, yeah, why at that point, I don't know if I'd accept it either. I'd be like, I'm just going to sit here and not, I'm just going to pretend the world is good. Yeah. Yeah. No, trust is in all time low. And so I do think for flock, unfortunately, it's not even the point. proper guard rails I wouldn't trust. So you're at a flock. Yeah, we're in 2024, there were 40,000 flock cameras. Then in 2025, there were 80,000 flock cameras. And now there are over a hundred thousand and more halfway, you know, we're half for a to really halfway through the year here. What other cities? Oh, they're they're everywhere. Virginia, Texas and California are the three, the where there's the most. I'm in Virginia. But I think they're in every state. But bringing awareness to it is what's causing it to kind of start like LA is getting rid of there. That's a huge amount of block cameras. LA is what getting rid of like they just they're getting rid of them. I'm pretty sure. When I read it today, they just voted to like they're going to stop using them. Holy shit, go California. You won't hear me say that. I know, I know. Same. So LA is if they're fighting back, it's kind of like, hmm, I think the more people are aware of them, the more people they're aware of like what they really are doing, the audit logs, the more they're going to fight back, whereas before it wasn't like that, no one knew. So now it's being uncovered. And that's I think the power of the things like you do. When I do, it's bringing to light these things that people were like, I have no idea. Is there anybody that you know that is like an expert on the flock camera subject? As in what sense? I don't know, that's getting loud about it, that's uncovering things that nobody knows about it. Are you it? Are you that? Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, as far as in the circle of like creators that I've seen, I'm the most obsessed with it. Because the when I started to look at, I always start with the fall of the money, because I feel like that leads you to the things. And when I looked at who invested in the flock cameras, it was two investors, who are the biggest investors in Israeli surveillance companies, like Toka, maybe you heard of Toka. Toka is the company founded by A Hood Barack. And he has emails with Epstein about it that can go into any camera real time and alter the footage, delete the footage, and leave no forensic trace. Interesting. Insane. And carbine any any any camera, what do you mean? They can get into any camera any camera that's live to the rub your ring camera, your your flop camera. So anything that's attached to the internet, if we detach one of these and yeah, anything touch the internet. What about an iPhone? Yeah, to into the footage. Yeah. So what it does, it goes it goes into live camera feed. So if you're recording, and it can like a ring camera, for instance, and it can alter that footage, delete the footage, real time, and leave no forensic trace. And in 2018, when they were when it was being talked about, A Hood Barack had exchanged emails with Epstein, and he was asking Epstein to talk to the intel agencies about it. And they were getting it in the government. And just recently, like within the past few years, they've opened up an office in DC. So I'll bet a bunch of Epstein's clients would love to be able to tap into their own footage. I'm like, huh, is that what we're doing? So yeah, that's, I mean, pretty scary capability. I can't think of any non nefarious reason you would use it, except to cover things up. Yeah. And those are the investors in Vlog cameras. Interesting. I mean, that's another question I have, you know, what the vlog camera stuff, I mean, we're already just being tracked everywhere, you know what I mean, with the phone is like the main thing. But then, you know, you brought up the ring cameras and I mean, pretty much everybody has a ring camera or a simply safe camera or a equivalent, you know, Google camera. There's a ton of them, right? Every house has them. They're all connected to the internet. People, I mean, they've been used to solve crimes. So I mean, we're pretty much, which is we're on camera all the time anyways. Yeah, but ring actually and shout out to them for this, they were going to partner with flock, flock one to partner with them. So they could track even through ring cameras. And ring once they learned, they learned more, cut their relationship. Interesting. So they don't allow them to do that. And so I'm like, oh, these good surveillance are better. But yeah, no, you're right. We're the thing is we're being tracked all the time. Um, um, where are they going to go with it? That's the question. Yeah, that's, I mean, I don't, I don't know, what do you think they're going to go with it? I mean, I think about this a lot because I'm not, I don't like conspiracy theories, but I've also realized conspiracy theories are actually like a lot of them are actually true, which is crazy. But I do think that there is potential based on everything I'm seeing with the push for AI data centers, the push for messaging that that we will, our first amendment will be monitored and punished or not through some sort of centralized banking. Like it's all going to be tied together. They're pushing for centralized digital banking. So if you speak out against something you're punished, I could see that happening. Obviously that's extreme for like what I think they would do with it. But I don't, I don't know why else they would. Yeah. I do think it will be used to monitor and, you know, what do you think about the militaries merging? Oh, it's, it's, I can't believe it, I can't actually believe it. Well, it's not militaries, Murray, it's not right. It's that that's the term people use. Yeah, it's, it's what is, it's basically a tech merge. Is that what it is? Yeah, so it, there's like six components to it. And it's system sharing, like, you're going to get into allow access into our zippers or do it. It's like what I, I, I understand and I did a thing on it months ago, I understand wanting to do it to Israel is so advanced in their technology, in their weapons, they are. And so being able to leverage that. Great. This isn't that. And that's the problem. It's like, this is actually linking systems that can't be undone. And the reason I think that it's not for something good, like just to do something as innocent as share capabilities. It's definitely nothing good is because they're sharing all our capabilities. In fact, we just disregard our own intelligence agencies as it is and just listen to theirs, whatever they say. I don't even know why we even have intelligence agencies anymore. Let's just listen to what Israel has to say. Apparently, let them spy on our, I mean, even the DIA came out and said, this is the crazy thing, the DIA came out and said, Israel is spying on our government officials, they are like espionage threat. We're like, let's merge, let's, and people say merging militaries and everyone gets caught up on that term. I think it's just the term people use, but it's, it's merging our tech, it's, they even had something in there that last one, it's bio health, it's, it's merging our health stand. Like, why would you need to do that with Israel? It's merging our capabilities. They are going to be so integrated with our military. It's, you're going to have access to everything. And the scariest part is that you're standing up your own office to do it. Like, they're standing up their own. So Netanyahu comes out and says, I don't want hate anymore. We don't want you to send us aid. We don't want America to send us aid. This was a few months ago. But what they're going to do is say that, so they look like the good guys, but this office that they're going to stand up, it's going to have a director, it's own org, it's own budget. And that's, now we're not going to be able to see how much money we're giving to Israel. Because all they have to do is give a certain amount that's public, everything else has run through the special access programs channels, the classified channels that nobody sees. And all, all the money goes. And nobody can yell about it. And I think that's why they're doing it. And that's, it can't be undone. It can't be undone once it's done. And I don't think they realize this. How close are we to the merge? So the house voted, they passed it. But what happens now, is the Senate? I thought the Senate already voted this shit out. Yeah, but it's weird. The NDA is, it's 1700 pages long. It is a, it's the biggest defense, I mean, it's our defense budget for the year, it takes them a long time. So the Senate marks theirs up. That's what they did in June, they marked theirs up, they have a version. And they go to pass it and they did it. The house passed their version. So now the house's version goes to the Senate. And the Senate says, we're going to pass this house version, we're going to have our own, we're going to mark it up, what are we going to do. And then they, they're going to They pass whatever they have, whatever they come up with. They can be different. Then they get into a committee, the House in the Senate, a closed door. So we lose all transparency. The closed door committee then says, okay, we're going to create a final NDAA out of this. The 219 could be stripped. It could be enhanced. It could change. I think I read there was only three Republicans that voted against it, Eli Crane, Tim Birchett and Massie, I believe. Am I right on that? Seven. Seven. Seven. Luna, the woman in Florida, and then there were two or three others. There were seven of them. And then there were seven Republicans that crossed party lines, and there were six Democrats that voted yes. And it only won. And it only passed. Only six Democrats voted yes. What the fuck has happened? And Henry, yeah, the Democrats voted no. And Henry Cueller, who is one of the Democrats that voted no, he was going to prison for decades in 2024 before Trump pardoned him. He was going to prison for decades for being a foreign agent and taking fraud bribes from them and pardoned him. And now he votes, he voted to spy on us without a warrant and he votes for the merger. He votes for the Republicans and I found that very interesting. So. Politics, man. Yeah. And it only it only failed. It only passed by four votes. But that's where you go to sell your soul to the devil. Yeah. So if people asked me if I would ever do it, I would never, I would never do it. What, Ron? If, being politics, yeah, like, Ron, I think governors have, have a shot at change. I think everyone else just, like if you were a governor, you could make a change, like you could make a difference. I don't think federally you can know, but I don't either. Yeah. I think the merging in the militaries is one of the scariest things that happened is that could happen to us. Well, we appreciate you coming. Yeah, no. This was great. Very conversation. What's next for you? I don't know. What? Well, there's no one to figure it out. Just keep doing what I'm doing. All right. Thank you. No. No matter where you're watching the Sean Ryan show from, if you get anything out of this at all, anything, please like, comment and subscribe. And most importantly, share this everywhere you possibly can. And if you're feeling extra generous, head to Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave us a review.