The hosts, Jason and Natalie, reflect on a recent SiriusXM panel appearance where they discussed the podcast and vlogs, leading to a humorous and introspective exchange about content strategy and audience connection. A key point of discussion centers on a brand deal story that generated “free money,” which Natalie critiques for potentially misrepresenting the value of the content. The team jokes about their personal dynamics, including the host’s tendency to downplay his achievements and the playful "Debbie downer" accusations. They also critique excessive podcast advertising, proposing shorter, more integrated ad breaks to improve viewer retention. The conversation is enriched by a series of fun, quirky facts and social media trends, such as Steve’s $6.9 million gamble for naming his child Gambie, which underscores the absurdity of modern creator culture. They highlight how new creators are achieving massive views through creative content, contrasting with their own more niche, authentic approach. A touching moment emerges when Jason shares a personal video about marrying his mom, a low-viewed but emotionally significant piece that exemplifies the podcast’s core value: real, unfiltered human connection. The episode blends humor, self-criticism, and heartfelt moments to reinforce the podcast’s mission of transparency and authenticity.
[MUSIC] >> What's up guys, welcome back to Views. We are back with another episode joined here with my friend Jason. And then with my coworker Natalie. >> My god. >> Yeah. >> Not your friend, your coworker. >> Jay, we just got back from fucking. Oh, first of all, Ethan, so sorry about the micro-penis. >> [LAUGH] >> My God, my friend Andy texted me. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Wait, what do we say about Andy? >> I think he said he had a break up. >> Yeah. >> Well, we got a spot on. >> It's like. >> I feel like we won't hear from any Ethan's about their micro-penis. I feel like somebody's going to want to keep to themselves. >> There might be someone with a small penis out there though who thinks that they have a micro-penis. Now that you said it. >> Well, what is a micro-penis? >> It's smaller than regular. >> Now, how big is yours? >> It's like inverted. >> Oh, yeah, that is a micro. That's how birds have sex. The male's penis is inside. >> So the girl has to find it? >> Yeah, they just kind of come down and like. >> I've never seen a bird's penis. >> And you never will. >> That's weird, especially because they are usually on top of us. Like not me. Like I'm not fucking birds, it's like they're flying overhead. >> I'm in the air. >> Yeah. >> Usually when I have sex with eagles. >> Oh, that's why they're on top. >> Yeah, I'm doggy. >> No, okay, anyway, sorry, we just got back. We would start. We just got back from serious XMJ. >> How did it go? Thanks for the invite. >> Yeah, I don't know why we didn't invite you. >> What the fuck? >> I kind of realized that on the way there. I was like, wait, Jason, should be here. >> Are you out of your mind? >> I don't know why. >> Why would you bring me? >> That's crazy. >> It wasn't a meeting. >> Oh, yeah, it wasn't a meeting. >> I had a speaking engagement. >> Oh. >> So it was work. So we felt bad just bringing you. >> Oh, no, that's okay. I'm glad you didn't call me. >> Yeah, okay. >> No, no. Oh, it wasn't a meeting. >> Oh, no, no, no. >> Yeah. >> So we worked with serious XM. So that's why I would be. >> Yeah. >> So you went down to the studio? You did a show? >> No, it was just talking to their team members and advertisers. >> There was like 100 panels. >> It was a panel. >> It was like 100 people in the audience. >> That's good. >> That's good for business. >> Yeah. >> Well, apparently I did a bad job, according to Natalie. >> No, I didn't see you did a bad job, but you said you could have done a better job. >> And then I was like, well, we should have gotten Jason. >> Jason's really sad right now. He's like, you just fucked us on the advertisement. >> Jason was like-- >> No, no, no. I thought you went and had a meeting about the podcast. >> No, no, no. She's saying that I fucked you guys by not doing a good job at the panel. >> Oh, oh, oh, yes. >> No, no, no. So that's why I said he should have come here. >> You're so good at that. >> Well, because Natalie wants me to hype myself up in the podcast. >> Right. >> When that's like show against my ethos of the podcast. >> I just-- >> You're the one that tells people to not invest with you. >> Exactly. >> I think you would be great there. >> Higher, smaller influencers, what David will tell you. >> Yeah. >> That is true. I do see that. Wow, you've listened to my panels. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I don't know. I just-- yeah. I don't know. >> What do they want to know? >> There was-- >> A lot of questions were about the pod. Sorry, I'm cutting you off. My mom's gonna fucking kill me again. >> Yeah. >> Well, I've lost what you're gonna thought. No, it was about the podcast and like, why David loves podcasting. And why he loves views and what views. >> Oh, right there. I could see it going poorly. >> Yeah, that was like fuck in my scene. >> Well, no, no. I hyped up the pod. >> Okay. >> No, yeah, he did. >> I hyped up the pod. I was like, I love it because it's like where our audience is like most connected. It's like-- >> Okay. >> The highest level of our audience, right? It's like the people that really want to know the day-to-day stuff. >> Yeah. >> But then like, that's kind of all I said. And then I started talking about the vlogs. And then now he was like, that was because I didn't really know this. But like, it wasn't really about the vlogs. It was all about the podcast. >> Sure, it's serious. >> And I kind of started figuring that out. >> Right. >> As the interviewer kept bringing it back to the podcast. And in my head I was like, what are you doing? Talking about the vlogs. It's so fun. [laughter] >> No, no, no, no. The interview was great. >> Can we get your vlogs on Sirius XM? >> I think that's-- >> No, but let me tell you about it anyway. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And then Natalie and then another question. What was the question that you were upset with me about? >> David was insinuating that like he loves-- What was it? Like free money? [laughter] >> Well, okay. So, okay, okay. So, that's how I'm saying. I gave him the story of like-- Okay, so they were like, what's your favorite brand deal you've ever done? And I told him a story of where one time like, no, no, no, it's not that one. It's not where the thing became racist. >> No, I just know you've had a couple where they're just like-- >> It turns out to be-- >> They had to pay you out. >> Yeah, it turns out to be free. Like, yeah, there was one time I worked with an AI software. >> Yeah. >> It became like, it became racist and went rogue. And then they had to pay me my full rate anyway. Even though I never even promoted it ever. >> Right. >> But I was already locked in contractually. No, the one I gave him was where I had a brand deal for my Instagram stories. But I accidentally also filmed it on my vlog. And I called the guy and I was like, do you have any budget left? And then he acts and then he was just like, we actually have-- we can give you $125,000. For something that was already going in the vlog. >> Oh. >> So I told everyone that that was my favorite because it was like free money. >> Yeah. >> I don't know, and I guess Natalie didn't like that apparently, I don't know. >> No, the part that I didn't love was when you were like, I was going to put it in the vlog anyway. But then the brand ended up giving me a bunch of money. And I was like, well, maybe we shouldn't tell people that. >> Well, okay, also to be fair, I didn't really know who I was speaking to. My audience-- everyone was really young and younger than me. >> Oh. >> That's not true. Also, by the way. >> Okay. >> Oh. >> There was like the first two girls were the younger girls that are obviously the most excited and they like sit up in the front. >> Yeah. >> But the rest was all like very corporate. >> Like really? >> It's not the vibe I was getting. I was getting that everybody was like, my age. So I was like kind of just like talking about like what I want to talk about. Like I wasn't like, not that I would age it up or anything for anybody else. But I was like, less talking about the boring podcast stuff. How much can you say about the podcast? Then they're like, what's-- why do you like working with Jason? I really hyped you up. >> Oh, thanks. Did you do that? >> Yeah, yeah. And I was like, when I hyped you up, I was like, wow, that was crazy. I just said that. Like that's probably should be enough. I should take it easy now with the podcast. And then I went back to talking about the vlog. No, but I was asked why you're my favorite collaborator. And it's what I actually said on the last podcast basically. I was like, he's just the best guy to just like keep trying bits with. >> Yeah. >> And like he's just like the most into it. >> It's nice. >> So it's very easy to create something. >> My phone's not ringing. I don't know. >> You do? We're not getting the deals. >> Yeah, I'll give it another day or two. >> Yeah, but well, it is what it is. I'll be better next time. But that's why I think next time we need to bring you. >> Yeah. >> Because Natalie was like, you don't ever hype yourself up. And like that's the point of these is for you to like talk yourself up. >> Yeah. >> Like Natalie there with you to hype you up. >> But I get that. I get not wanting to hype yourself up. >> What am I going to fucking say? >> That sucks. >> But I don't think you need to be like, I'm the most amazing podcaster in the world. I think you could just talk about the things that you do. I feel like he always dampens and downplays a lot of what he does. And even just sharing the excitement or even just saying what is views. This is our most like, yes, you mentioned that it's our most hyper focused. The nichest version of our audience is listening to the views podcast. These views listeners are the most locked in. But why is that? That's because your vlog is only 15 minutes long or whatever. But the views podcast is 40 minutes twice a week. Like you're getting everything behind the scenes. All the specific details, all the nuance of the way. >> Yeah, no, I definitely could have done a better job. What happened in the car ride over? I would love to. Were you guys together? >> Oh my god. >> I don't even want to know. >> It was so good. >> I want to hear all that. But how much time was put into what you were about to go do? Was it basically like now? >> On the car ride over to there. >> Yeah. >> Oh, nothing. >> Okay. >> I did talk about it. >> Is it clear not to Debbie down? >> Well, I don't, oh, yeah. She said, she said, don't mention this brand. They don't like, if you mention this brand. >> Yeah. >> And then she said, just don't be a Debbie downer. And I wasn't really Debbie downer. I just wasn't a Debbie upper. >> Yeah. >> So I just want to talk vlog. >> Right. I wanted to talk vlog. And then also she asked me the matter. It asked me, like, what are you most excited about? >> Yeah. >> And I said, I'm an escrow on a new house. >> Oh, no. But after the free bunny comment. >> And I was like, I really, yeah. I told her all about my plans to make it like a place for people to hang out >> Oh. >> She kind of liked, but it was funny that she was like, at the end, when she was wrapping it up, she's like, well, we're really all excited to see this house. You're an escrow on. And I was like, it was like really funny that I've just sort of gotten somebody in on my fun little delusion. >> Can I show you my AI rendering? >> Yeah. >> Of the back house? >> Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Other than that, I think it would be pretty good. >> I mean, I've seen it though. I've seen where here's like transparency. All right. P wins people over with it. Even if the comments are like a little like, oh. You know what I mean? So you just don't know. >> I'm sure, I'm sure. >> You know what I mean? >> You know what he's honest. >> You know what he fucking said. >> What do you say? >> He said, we have too many ads on the podcast. >> Oh, I did say that. >> And when he said that, my heart was like, oh, god. >> Okay. I did say that. I did say that. I shouldn't have said that. >> He's like, you know what? I was listening to podcasts. It's a view spot, guys, the other day. Do you-- is this normal? There's like 15, 20 out? It has on this thing. And everyone was like, there's not 15 or 20 ads. >> And I was like, feels that way. >> I was like, are we gouging our audience and she was like-- >> She's literally the head of all podcast partnerships that advertise me. >> No, no, but then everyone was like, everyone was like, I was like, be honest with me. To like all the kids that have never been in the crowd. Are there a lot of-- is it similar ads to what we have? And everyone was like, yes, that's like a normal podcast thing. >> Yeah. >> Because I also-- that was the one time I checked out on the pod because I was trying to get to a certain part. And there's a lot of ads that play through podcasts. Yes, and then I asked Taylor and Alex and they said the same thing and
and then how I landed that comment was I was like, I think it'd be way cooler instead of having 60-second ad reads for ads. We'd have like a 10-second ad read, and it was, 'cause when you have 60 seconds, you're skipping through it. Like when it's 10 seconds, you're not skipping through it, and maybe you actually like hear it. Like if I'm just like sea geek guys, use code David, 10 for tickets, give it 10% off. I'm telling you, it's the best place to buy tickets, and continue. Like I feel like that's about, like, well, you know, why am I telling everybody about sea geek? Over and over and over again. - Yeah. - Not to, there is something to what you're saying. - Take it on the same guy to read. But I'm just gonna say, you'll be like-- - And then you'd really skip it. Then you'd be like, okay, here comes David's 10-second ad. - No, no, no, it wouldn't be like that. It would literally be like-- - It was a part of the conversation. - It would just be like so much more a part of the conversation, and it'd be like, if you're in the mindset of looking for tickets in that time, you'll remember. - Yeah, like it'll raise a bell, and you'll be like, oh, or ring a bell. Then you'll be like, oh, shit, wait, I need tickets, I remember it, I don't know. I just think like, talking about it for 40 seconds is almost like a net negative. Like you just start losing people listening to that. I don't know. Regardless, I think it went pretty well. They asked me what my favorite items were, like what I couldn't live without. Oh, really? Yeah, I said-- - What did I say? - Chapstick. - I said Chapstick, my phone, and Natalie. - And Natalie. - Did you really say Natalie? - She said Natalie. - Oh my god. - The whole audience, after rewind 45 minutes earlier, she was bitching me out in the car. Can't live without me, loves me so much. - Dick. - I mean, it's true. Like, can two things be right at once? I don't-- - See, I've got a funny way of showing it, brother. - This is why I don't like when you get like, when we get into our fights, and you get like all angry at me. - Mm-hmm. - Like, I only get angry with you. This is gonna sound manipulative. (laughing) - I only get manipulative with you. - Protein slips. I only get angry with you because like, I expect the most from you. 'Cause like, I hold you to the highest standard. - Yeah. - And like-- - That's true. - Yeah, like, I'm obviously not, you know, yelling at other people that we work with, but you are the most important cog in this wheel. So like, listen, yeah. It's kind of like a coach. - All right, what? - Like an NFL coach. - Yeah, it's what you said in the car on the way there. - Yeah, like the coach will yell at their star player. Because they expect the most from them. - You gotta push them to be their best. - Yeah, 100%. - Yeah. - But like, I think you know that, like, I really appreciate you. - Sometimes. - Oh my God. - Are you crying? - No, no, just, I think that's so sweet. - Jason, do not feed into this bullshit. Are you crazy? - I love you, no, it's so sweet. He just said little ceasers. That's why he's being nice. - And I ordered it for him. That's fine. - And you ordered it for me, babe. - Yeah, it's really funny. Naveen gets like, strangely nice after she eats. - We were fighting in the car, me and Natalie, and then, we pivoted to, 'cause she was hungry. - Is after or before? - This is after. - After, okay. - She was just fighting about something else. We were just, we were just fighting. And then she starts like getting out her door to action. And I was like, you should get little ceasers. The pizza's really good. - I'm like, really? - Yeah, man. I was like, are you down to split it with me? (laughing) So we just split a pizza in half. - Oh, that's what he said. They asked him about what the views podcast is about. And he was like, really, it's just like, when I have something I need to yell at Natalie about, and you're like, "figure it out with her." (laughing) - Get in the podcast and we do get out. - I actually don't know how to explain what the podcast is about, because it really is just like thoughts. It's not like, we're not like a sports podcast where it's like, you know, like, we talked about World War II for like 15 minutes yesterday. - People ask me all the time. What's your pot about? I go, I don't know. - It's just people conversating. - I'll usually say something like, "Oh, my friend David's really eccentric." And we just talk about his life. (laughing) And I don't know what they think when I say that. They probably think that you're just like in business or something. - Oh, yeah, I don't know. - Yeah. - Yeah, well, okay. - Can we get a podcast room in the new house? - Yes. - There is a chance we could do a podcast room. - Yeah. - I want to build a conversation pit. - Oh, amazing. - So I don't know if that's what you're looking for. - But I just want somewhere where the, I don't have to re-hook the wires every time I come in. That's all I'm looking for. - Yeah, yeah. - Maybe a corner. - Guys, if you're looking to do something this summer, there's a good chance it involves getting tickets, which is why I want to give the sponsor of today's video, Seekheak, a huge shout out. With over 35 million downloads, Seekheak is the number one rated ticketing app. There are more than 70,000 events listed on Seekheak, including concerts, sports, festivals, and more. All you got to do, download the Seekheak app to see what's happening around you. Seekheak has your back. Each ticket is rated on a scale of one to 10, so you know you're getting a good deal. So look for the green dots. Green means good, but it means bad. Plus, every ticket is backed by their buyer, Garen, T. Guys, listen, Jason's kids, they have a band. It's no longer called the Grapecow. - Yeah. - What is it called? - It's called Newty. - Newty. - So if you want to go see them, there's a good chance to get tickets. - Yeah, you can get them on Seekheak. - The best place to get them would be Seekheak. Literally for any kind of event. We're talking about sporting events, concerts, even sermons, anything. - It's the best. - To make it even better, you can use code views 10 for 10% off your tickets. That's 10% off tickets with promo code views 10 on Seekheak. Thank you, Seekheak. - Did you guys know? - Yeah. - I love fun facts. - That's Samurai's, Cowboys, and Victorian era. We're all at the same exact time. - Yes, actually. - You did know that. - Yeah. - Samurai's, Cowboys, and the Victorian, like Bridgerton, Princesses, and Queens and shit. - Oh, the same time. - Did you know when Jesus Christ was getting crucified, that was around the same time as the Han Dynasty in Jonah? - That kind of like, oh, wait, no, that does not add up at all. (laughing) - No, did you get this because there was that new book for sale that shows everything that happened at the same time? - No. - Oh, it's really cool. It's like a history book. It's like a TikTok shop item, but it is really cool. It like shows you everything from like 15,000 years ago, and all the things that were happening simultaneously, like stacked on top of each other. So it would be like leaning to our pizza. It's happening at the same time as this thing was being knocked down. - No, I don't. - That's not a real thing, but yeah. - And did you know also that George Washington never knew that dinosaur has existed? - Yeah, that is a crazy one. - Because like a fossil didn't actually, there was no fossils that were known until after he passed away. - Oh. - He was just living on. - You see this shame, young Washington? - No, I must have got one up and got it up. - Oh, there's like this, there's one scene. Yeah, there's one scene you probably got up and got up. There's one scene where he's sitting at his desk and he's like, I feel like there's something that used to roam these parts, and then it cuts. - Did you also know? - That. - That's enough, Natalie. - So that my mom cutting her off. This is my mom's fault, guys. My mom said I can't cut Natalie off. Here we are, fucking singing for these facts. - No, go ahead. - Why? - Oxford University. - Wait, wait, wait, can you almost finish the thought and then I'm gonna see if I can complete it? - Well, this one's gonna be tricky. This one's really out there. - Go. - Oxford University was a ready teaching students before. Bye. - Before. - I don't know. - Before the Aztec Empire was even found in. So all like the ruins and stuff for the Aztecs. Oxford was already like teaching kids. - Whoa. - Yeah. - Yeah. 1325, also the last execution by guillotine in France. - Was? - Happened in, give me a decade. - 2000. - Oh, Jesus, no. - 1990. - 1977. The same year that the first Star Wars movie was released, they were still guillotine people. - Oh wow. - Oh wow. - You know, for the first time in the US, there's a guy that's about to be firing squatted. - What? - That first time, sorry. For the first time in the last 15 years. - Why the fuck is anybody doing that? - Because he didn't want, his lawyer said that the lethal injection, he's had, the guys had buddies that have done it and it was. - That was fucking crazy. - I don't think he said buddies. I don't know if that's how it'd be first. - His buddies, his buddies didn't like the lethal injection. - His lawyers were not fans of the possession. No, that apparently just doesn't go well. There's like a lot of like medical things that, like it's a very painful death. - Yeah. - So he got the, the option of lethal injection, electric chair or firing squad, and he took firing squad. - What? That sounds like so brutal. - You know a firing squad happens? - No. - Like, okay, so like you're in a chair. - Yeah. - Oh my god. - And you're strapped down, usually. You are strapped down. - Yeah. - And then you have a hood on your head. - Yeah. - And then there's like three shooters behind a wall that are like officers. And most of the time, only one officer has a real bullet. And the others are fake bullets. So none of the officers carry the burden of killing the person. - Oh, firing squad like a gun. - Yeah. - Oh my god, I thought they were literally letting him on fire. - Dude, what? - I was like, "Why the fuck would anybody choose that?" - This is why it's hard to explain what the booze podcast is. (laughing) Moments of history, but confused. (laughing) - Oh, that makes more sense, yeah. - Fire rings squad. - I don't really want to be shot over anything. - You're still carrying the burden. - Yeah, but if you don't know it's coming from your gun, I think that there's like-- - I guess you can tell yourself that. I don't know if it was my gun. It just ripped his eyeballs out. - I don't, you don't even see those, 'cause these covered. - That's strange, man. I wonder how that comes down. Like, hey, Gerald, do you want to be one of the three guys on Friday? - I think it does. - You want to kill this guy? Who is it? Who? - I don't know. - One of the guards? - I think that's really crazy. - You see, did he's got a phone in jail? - I mean-- - Really? - Really? - Big news story. - Of course he does. - Yeah. - He's got an iPad. - Why is that crazy? - It's against the law. - Isn't he in like a nice jail? - He's in a jail, he's in a nice part of a jail. (laughing) He's got people paying for him. He's working for him in there. He's got an iPad.
He's gotta, and you're not supposed to have a phone, right? - Wait, excuse me, he's got people working for him in there. - Yeah, he's got people giving him massages and cooking and meals and-- - Wait, why? - He gets onion rings for dinner. - Shut the fuck up! - And he's getting out soon. - Wait, wait, oh, he's paying for them. Like, like his, whatever. - Yeah, he has people putting like money in his commissary money. - Yeah. - And then that's going to other prisoners. I mean, if I could work for Diddy and Jill, I'd take a course. - That is maybe one of the craziest lines that I've ever met. Please don't ever say anything like that. - I could work for Diddy and Jill. - Well, think about it, you're in jail. You're already in jail. - Yeah. - So you're like, all right. - I'm sure he's like-- - I mean-- - Okay, I'm not gonna think about it 'cause I don't wanna put my-- Yes. - You're already in jail and you're like, fucking, you're working in the library. And you're like, you know, you go, and you check the books out for people. And then one day, Diddy rolls in. - You think he, I guess-- - And he's like, hey, you wanna come hang with me and watch my iPad? I mean, I think all pets are off at that point. - Yeah. - Yeah, I had to care for him. Like, he's running-- - What's a massage? What's Diddy requesting an massage? - I don't know. - I said, I don't know if I'd do the massage part, but I'd make a money rings, maybe. - Oh, it's sending money to their families. - I think those onion rings are also, it's a very particular shape of this man is requesting. I think-- - Onion rings coming, oh, I see. But you're cockin' the middle of it, is there a reason? - I think there's, I don't know. - Oh, I see onion rings with their quotes. - Yes. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Onion rings. - Onion rings. - Oh, it's a big cocky guy in LA, please shut up. - This is one of this ones funny. Oxford University had been open for over 400 years before anyone in Europe even knew what a blank was. Does anyone want to take a wild guess? - A school was. - What a potato was. No one even, it'd been opened up, it'd be open. (laughing) - All right, that wins the dumbest one. (laughing) - That's really good. - It's his overlap in history, it's a tick-tock area. - You had it to Oxford University this summer. (laughing) - I don't know why Oxford is-- - A student course. - Well, I think it's the oldest running university. - How does it work if you go back to school and you want to, like, if I wanted to go study, right? - Yeah. - Like, Ilya's girlfriend, Emma, is studying UCLA to get her, whatever is-- - Business, master's degree. - Master's degree. - Yeah. And I asked, like, who are the people in her class? And she's like, it's very few people are her age. - Yeah. - She's, like, in her early 20s. And a lot of people are, like, 30, 40, 50 years old in that class. - Right. - So how does that work? Are you still allowed the same benefits? I was like, can you go to parties? (laughing) - Oh, yeah. - Really? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, a lot of people-- - Wait, when you went to college, there was other people that were taking a course. - I don't think my college had a graduate program, but, like, the bigger universities. I mean, I don't know if it's, like, they're not going to frat parties per se, but they're not going to the college bars and doing college-related activities, for sure, yeah. - Wait, actually? - Yeah. - And people wouldn't be like, what the-- - No, I don't think that's a thing. - What? - 40-year-old people going to frat parties? - No, not frat parties, like college bars. - Oh, wait, why are they 40? - What are you talking about? You can get that, your master's whenever you want. - My sister got her graduate's degree in her 40s. - Yeah, but she went back to school. - It's also crazy. Emma was talking about her, like, dentist degree or whatever. And you have to go work, or I guess this is normal for people listening, but you have to go work for, like, three, four years. You have to get a job as, like, a dental assistant or something, just to be let into the program. It's kind of interesting. So, like, you really can't actually do it till you're way later, till you're 26 or like-- - You really can, yeah, walk down. - It's like being president. - Yeah, well, president, you can kind of just, like, hop into whenever, right? - You gotta be 35. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, but, like, you don't have to have, like, years of, you don't have to have, like, almost any-- - It's like two different things they have to be, have experience in to be president. - Who do you think could be president right now? - In this room? (laughing) - No, just in general. - Like, who's coming up? - Like, if there was a celeb, that could be president run tomorrow with no experience and win. - Oh, fuck. - You think Logan Paul's a chance in, like, 15 years? - Probably, yeah. - Really? - Michael B. Jordan? - Oh, I wasn't saying like, a Tom Brady. - Tom. - Michael B. Jordan is not the guy that-- - A lot of people don't like Tom Brady, though. - Really? - Just because he's a patriot. - No. - Just because they fucking won so much. - But I feel like the Patriots in winning is so America. - He's a fucking patriot. - Yeah, but football people are weird like that. They remember the times that Brady smoked him, and they're very much fucking voting for that guy. - Yeah, I don't know. That's kind of a tough question. What's celebrity? Do you think it's gonna go down that road? - I do. - Oh, you think more and more celebrities are gonna be? - 100%. - Political power. - Especially with the way that our political system has been set up now and where it's like-- - Now people are really split. - Yeah, and you can do anything now and not get arrested. - Well, I also do think actually. - Wait, what does that mean? - You know, you can do all kinds of stuff and have all, you can run your business and still be president, it seems. No one's gonna come after you. - I feel like there's not be that way. - I feel like there's also like a lot of people that are against Trump. - Yeah. - That like our celebrities like on the liberal side, that I could see like they're so passionate about not liking him. - Right, but I could almost see them running. - Sure, I could see that. - You forced me to do this. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That'd be really interesting. - But he's out. - America was just, why aren't we getting so political recently? - That's not that political. - Really? - Yeah. - We're getting really into it. - Oh, maybe we're-- - Now they just brought a box for it. - Maybe, maybe we're going out here. - I feel like I really did a big one for you guys today. I bring in all those facts here. - You killed it. - I don't know what you did, but it definitely wasn't a big one. I was at the airport with Navine, and this kid sits down on the phone, and he's like, he's talking like Instagram and YouTube, you know? He's like, clearly does what we do. - Yeah, yeah. - And I'm listening to the whole conversation. So then he hangs up. This is a story of like two perspectives. So this is my perspective in Navine's perspective. So he hangs up, and I tap him on the knee. I go, "Hey, man." I go, "What land are working in?" Like that. - How old is he? - He's like maybe like 24 or 25. And I love to talk to people. - Oh, I thought, is there a toddler involved? - No. - Oh, sorry. I thought you were talking about toddler. Or could you go? - What? - He said he was done watching YouTube. - He was talking YouTube. - Oh, okay, I'm sorry. - He was on the phone talking about views and algorithms. - Oh, yeah, yeah. - Why this video did better than that? And, you know, my ears perked up, and I'm always looking to learn, you know? - Yeah. - So I say, "Hey, man, what land are you working in?" So a strength of this great conversation. He's doing some really cool stuff on YouTube. And I was like, I was like really proud of myself that I reached out to learn some stuff, you know? And then, but Naveen tells a completely different story, which was, he was sitting behind me. And then we think that he purposely came. Naveen thinks he purposely came and sat in front of me and had a loud conversation. And she was like, and you fell for it. Oh, glad I didn't think that. - That's really fun. - I literally did. I was like, "Hey, man." 'Cause he was just safe. - Well, part of YouTube, do you do? - He was just saying trigger words for you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I bought the whole thing. - He goes, he's just on the phone going, "Yeah, no more TikTok live, making real money with real views." (laughing) - Making animated shows, yes. - Yes. - Yeah, a lot of money. - Yeah, that's really fun. - Did he have a channel that you recognized or that you knew? - Yeah, yeah, big one. - Well, he works for someone who was a big fan. - I said next to, I said next to, some more thing happened to me. I was sitting next to somebody on a flight. And it's just kind of crazy. The difference. It's crazy how many creators there are out there? Like, you've never heard of, but are doing like 10 times the numbers that you're doing. Like, it's just like, I said next to this guy and he was getting, he was pulling in like 400 million views on YouTube a month and off his like four channels that are all like kids' channels. And I was like, and I've never heard of this guy. But he's like, yeah, I actually really got into it 'cause I was watching your vlogs and I like really wanted to make videos. - Yeah. - And it's about you like a multi, multi-millionaire right now. And he's like, yeah, yeah, I'm doing really well. It's just like kind of fucking crazy. - He has multiple kids' channels. - Yeah, it's just like a blitter rating. - Really. - Yeah, it's really as crazy like how many different ways there are to do social media. I mean, social media is like, I don't know how you're gonna be started on that. Did you see six, nine, six, nine's paying, sorry. Steve will do it. It's paying six, nine a million dollars to name his kid, Gambie, because Gambie's the company name that he's gambling with. Steve will do it as like sponsored by Gambem, which is a gambling company. - Wow. - And Steve said, I'll give six, nine a million dollars if he names his newborn child, Gambie. And I think six times doing it. And on top of that, Steve is wiping away his two million dollar debt. - Wow. - So basically paying six, nine, three million dollars to name his kid, Gambie, which is. - That's insane. - Kind of fucking crazy. - How much fucking money is this company paying Steve? I like, can't even wrap my head around it. - I don't really know. I watched his last video and in the beginning, he goes with Dana White to gamble at a casino and they each gamble one backer outhand for a million dollars. And they go one at a time. Dana goes first, he wins, then Steve goes and he wins. They both won a million dollars, then Steve's walking away from the table and goes, that was a fun intro. And then his intro music rolls. - Wow. - Yeah, I'm like, wow. - Damn. - It's just like so different. - How many like views listeners do you think have now gone to the Steve will do a channel because you hype it up so much? - I don't know, but I'm telling you, I was watching it yesterday by myself in the living room. And like he said something while I was walking to like get catch up from the fridge. And as I was sitting back down, just like a dad, I went, I went, this guy's the best. Just to myself, I just set it all out. I mean, he truly is like, there is nobody like him to watch on YouTube. Nobody, 'cause he's just like, [BLANK_AUDIO]
He's not a human being the way he operates. - Yeah. - It's a very interesting case study of a really giving person that has the most wacky personality you'll ever fucking see. - What else has he got going on in those videos these days? - Steve? - Yeah. - And then the rest of the video is he buys, so he goes and he puts, this is the same video. He puts a million and a half dollars on one football game. It was like the Lions versus the Bills. I don't fucking know. And his team is losing. And he's like, guess what? I'm gonna go to bed. Nobody fucking thought that would happen. Like, I'm winning technically here 'cause I'm about to get a good night's rest. So I don't care. And he's like, I don't care that I lost money because I'm gonna get some sleep. And he bought watches, like $500,000 worth of watches for the winning team if they won. He's gonna give it to them. But if he lost, if his team lost, he was gonna give it to the equipment manager of the opposite team. So he still had to give the watches out so he just gave it to his friend. And he was just like, can you just go find the equipment manager and Steve left on his flight and went to go lay down? (laughing) So it's like, yeah, it was really, really. - This is crazy. - And then the NFL said that they couldn't accept any of his gifts because they'd launch another investigation. 'Cause he tried to give gifts to the whole Mexico team or whatever. - No. - And then we were the World Cup and to shoot an investigation on like whether or he's not. He was like, bribing the players. - Yeah, yeah. - So like, now nobody can accept gifts from him. But he wants to give people so many gifts. - Wow. - Yeah. - Imagine being shut out. - He's, yeah. No, it sucks. He's gonna give more. - He's gonna gift anymore. - He's gonna give Patrick Mahomes a $700,000 watch that he just bought that he was so excited about two vlogs ago. - Yeah. - I know so much about this guy. And he can't give it to him anymore because the NFL won't let him. What are you fucking crazy? Now he set me a nice text when I was in Boston to check in on my mom. - What's this thing? - He thought was so nice. She's like, how's everything going in Boston? - Really? - I thought that was so sweet. - She just did that on her own. - On her own. And then I set a picture that my mom has up of you and my mom and you guys got married. - Oh yeah. - She has that up in her house. - The honey man from the Louis Vuitton. - She got you right next to Tom Brady. (laughing) - It's amazing. Yeah, that was one of my favorite fucking trips in here. One of my lowest viewed videos, you know that? - That's crazy. - At the time. - It's like so tough. - It's the video I bring up when I was doing talk shows and stuff. So you only video had to always bring up. - Is it still low? - Yeah, no, I'm saying as of right now. - As of now. - Like you go back, it's like sitting at like nine or 10 million views. Everything around it has like 17 million views. - That's weird. - It's really fucking weird. It is definitely the video I reference a talk about the most is marrying your mom. - Right. - That's the reason, just like disappeared. - Oh wow. - Maybe bitches were jealous. - I think that was it. - Now it wasn't hard for you to watch. - It was hard for me to watch. - As a woman who really wants me. - I had to bear witness to my long lost love, marrying Lorraine. - Well I'm not lost, I'm here, I just don't love you. - Oh. - How are we gonna get through tomorrow? We have to get up so early. - Wait, wait, no, have you been thinking about fucking me more? Remember when you brought that up before? - No, absolutely not. - You haven't given that more thought? - When was I thinking about it originally? - Two podcasts ago, you were like, you know what, I've been thinking, wouldn't be that bad out of sex with David. - Oh, no, I haven't really given that further thought. - I've been thinking about it a lot. - But really? - Sure, if that's what she said. - What she said, she, what, closer to her was like. - But it's also not exactly what I said. - Yeah, I mean, a paraphernalist. - It's a gun to my head. - That was the podcast where she was really tired. - I don't think she was tired. - Yeah, I think she had jet lag. - Really? - I think so. - I don't know if she would make she that horny. - We were back from Africa, I think. - Oh, yeah, that does do certain things to you. So you haven't thought about a bar? - No, I've actually, if anything, it's gone down. It's decreased 'cause you've really been pissing me out the basketball weeks. - Oh, but you have been turned on by me. - Was there ever a moment where you saw me do something and you're like, that was kind of hot? - Holy shit, this is actually a moment? - Yeah, for sure. - I think, not like I want to fuck you, but I was like, oh, that was hot. - What? - What? - That's crazy. - Let me guess. - Maybe when he gave somebody something, did his generosity turn to you on? - No. - Maybe like foul and when he were on foul and I thought that was like, that was pretty cool. - Really? - Yeah. - Wow, dude. - That's crazy. - A long time ago. - Yeah. - That's what comes to hand. It comes to my mind first, yeah. - Damn, so. - When he sat in Fallon's chair, that did it for you. - Yeah. - Every time you see me in the shoes. - It was when he interacted when Fallon came to the dressing room and you guys did a little like photo, I think I took a photo of you and Fallon together. And that was like, woo. - Really? Like you were like. - It's sexy. - Both of these guys right now at the same time? - No, no, no. - Huh, interesting. - Yeah. - I didn't know you were so into me. - Settle this beef, David. I'm on a plane. - Yeah. - Okay. - When I was down next to me, or the seat in front of me, and he had like a little cushion. And so I asked him, like, oh, hey, where'd you get that cushion? That thing's pretty cool. It's like, good for your back and stuff. And Naveen thinks that that is the wrong time to start talking on a plane at the beginning. And she was like, I can't believe you're talking to him. He's like, he's gonna think you have a crazy person next to him. - I mean, I definitely feel that way when someone starts talking to me, but I also feel like, maybe that's 'cause I'm a girl and I'm like, why is this happening? - That's easy to fuse though. Like if you go quiet for like three minutes, then like as long as you say it, say what you actually really want to know, and then that's it and fuck off. - Right. - Like, don't ask. - Yeah, you would end a conversation in a certain way. - Yeah. - Like, I don't want to talk anymore. - It's so funny when you're on a plane and you talk to somebody for like three minutes at the beginning. And then you guys don't say a word. - That's right. - And then you're getting up and you're like, see you later. - Yeah. - So at the conversation, then go quiet for five hours, then you end it. - Like, flying on a plane next to someone is always so weird, 'cause like, you don't look at the person, you don't talk to them, you don't touch, you know, there's no like- - You ever sit next to like a pretty girl or a pretty guy? - I've sat next to relatively cute guys. - Oh, dude, I sat next to a pretty girl. One of my flights. - Yeah. - It's a complete game changer. - We would. - Yeah, 'cause I'm like a big laying down guy, but I was like for like an extra 30 minutes, I was just like sitting up, like, looking at movies, like, wasn't even watching it, 'cause it was going to be bad, but I was like- - Did you say anything to her? - Yeah, we talked about like movies, and like what she does, and things like that. - Okay. - It's kind of fun. And you would just like like people so much more on a flight, you know what you're doing, something adventurous together. - No, it's not even that, like, you could be like, this goes for me, this goes for guys, and this goes for girls, but you could be like a six in real life, but when you're on a flight, you're like a 10, you know what I mean? It just makes people look hotter. It's like, wow, you're here on this tube and this guy with me, like, I'm feeling something. - That's interesting. - You don't get that? Like, airport crushes are like so fucking incredible, and it's not like you'd have that crush at a club, that's just like just because they're an airport, it's like the most real world experience. - How many times have you had like had a little crush on somebody in the airport, but then you're like sitting there trying to figure out if they have a boyfriend or not? Oh yeah, I do that. - That's a tough way. - This is the second time you've gone. What are you doing? - I'm really tired. You maybe eat that pizza. - You guys have little seizures. You shouldn't have had it. - I know. - I can't believe. No more little seizures before the podcast. - I know. That was my mistake. - Hey, sometimes when I'm talking to my mom, you ever have this, well, you don't have this. Your mom's not older, but sometimes I'll be talking to her. - It should accidentally mute herself, but I think she's dead. - That's really funny. - Like I think I'm like, mom, mom, mom, are you okay? Mom, mom, like that long, and then all of a sudden you're like, "Not I'm here, I'm here." - Has she ever been close? - I hit mute, but no, she's doing good. - Yeah, I'll be worried too. - My cousin has an ambulance. - Owns? - Yeah. My cousin's wild. My cousin's kind of like you. - It's the fucking air, Natalie. - Can you ever explain music loudly, not play music? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Does that not match that tone perfectly? - That's my loud voice. That's how you know it. - That's how you know it. - Because it's kinda like you, he's like, made a lot of money, buys a lot of toys. So we show up in Boston and he picks me up in an ambulance. - Oh, wow. - Yeah, he bought an ambulance. - He picked you up in an ambulance. - Yeah, yeah, so I come out all disoriented and I see my mom in an ambulance. And I'm like, oh my god, I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, oh, right, Stephen has an ambulance. - Wait, what does he do for a living? - He's a landscaper. He started a landscaping company with like 18-- - And why does he have the ambulance? - Yeah, what? - Because he's, you know, he's just like, he loves toys. - But like, isn't that illegal? Can you just be driving around an ambulance? - Well, he can't turn the sirens on. - Yeah, you can have one that's like, yeah. - You can just drive an ambulance around town. - You have to also probably cover your sirens. - Yeah. - You know, like we have friends that own cop cars, but like you have to take the stickers off. - But they own cop cars because they're like licensed and stubborn regard, yeah. - I'm sure he's a licensed ambulance driver. - You could buy an ambulance tomorrow, if you want. - Hey, why are you fucking-- - And it looks like-- - Why are you getting his fucking cousin in legal trouble right now, dude? - Oh. - He's not breaking the law. - Yeah. - He's fine.
Why don't you a fucking cop? You sure your cousin should be doing that? Sounds like he needs jail time. - I'm gonna lock 'em up. - But my, when my mom lives is all like old ladies, and they gossip a lot. And so I guess everyone was talking shit about my mom because they think that she gets like special treatment that the ambulance like picks her up. Like, so like, I guess there was a conversation between two ladies that were like, like yeah, the ambulance came and got her. She gets special treatment. She's like, we gotta go to the hospital like everybody else. - And then the other woman was like, did she sit in the front seat? She's like, yeah, she did, she sat in the front seat. - Yeah, Zane was yelling at Ellie yesterday on the phone. I love when people, when people get in a fight with Natalie, and then Zane goes, Zane goes, you're fucking just like your mother. (laughing) - This is what he said. I was like, what, how are you now using the mother thing? - Yeah, 'cause that's something I do all the time. - Yeah. - And then I'm like, what, Zane? Like Zane might be the man that's met her mom like, once or twice. - Like, maybe once or twice, yeah. - How's it even possible that he's saying that? - He clocked and he had that ready. He ended the chamber. - And then he heard you say it. - Natalie, Lily was like, what the fuck? You don't even know my mom. (laughing) I'm gonna use that one with it. All right guys, this is all the time we have for this podcast. Thank you guys for listening. We will be back next week with another banger from your favorite, just Jason and Nasty Natalie - And divine David. - Bye.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The hosts reflect on a recent trip to a SiriusXM event where they discussed the podcast and vlogs, leading to internal debates about content focus and audience engagement.
A key moment involved a misstep in the panel discussion where the host shared a story about a brand deal that resulted in free money, which Natalie criticized for potentially misleading the audience.
The conversation highlights the hosts’ playful dynamic, including jokes about personal relationships, such as the hosts' mutual admiration and the humorous "Debbie downer" comment about avoiding negative talk.
The hosts express concern about excessive advertising in podcasts, suggesting shorter, more integrated ad breaks would improve audience retention and engagement.
A recurring theme is the value of authenticity and connection in the podcast, emphasizing that the show’s strength lies in raw, unfiltered conversations between the hosts and their audience.
The team shares fun, unexpected facts and social media trends, such as Steve Jobs naming his child Gambie for a gambling deal, illustrating the absurdity and creativity in modern content creation.
They reflect on the impact of social media on creators, noting how many new creators are achieving massive views with minimal exposure, which both inspires and challenges traditional media models.
A lighter, emotional moment arises when the host shares a personal video about marrying his mom, which remains low-viewed but is significant due to its emotional weight and authenticity.
Summary:
The hosts, Jason and Natalie, reflect on a recent SiriusXM panel appearance where they discussed the podcast and vlogs, leading to a humorous and introspective exchange about content strategy and audience connection. A key point of discussion centers on a brand deal story that generated “free money,” which Natalie critiques for potentially misrepresenting the value of the content. The team jokes about their personal dynamics, including the host’s tendency to downplay his achievements and the playful "Debbie downer" accusations.
They also critique excessive podcast advertising, proposing shorter, more integrated ad breaks to improve viewer retention. 9 million gamble for naming his child Gambie, which underscores the absurdity of modern creator culture. They highlight how new creators are achieving massive views through creative content, contrasting with their own more niche, authentic approach.
A touching moment emerges when Jason shares a personal video about marrying his mom, a low-viewed but emotionally significant piece that exemplifies the podcast’s core value: real, unfiltered human connection. The episode blends humor, self-criticism, and heartfelt moments to reinforce the podcast’s mission of transparency and authenticity.
FAQs
A micro-penis is defined as a penis that is smaller than average. The transcription notes that this is a rare condition, and the speaker humorously suggests it's not common for people to openly discuss it.
The speaker attended a panel event with Serious XM, where they discussed the podcast and vlogs. They mentioned feeling the conversation veered off-topic and that they didn't fully address the podcast’s core value.
The speaker felt uncomfortable because the interview focused heavily on vlogs and personal stories rather than the podcast. They later realized they didn’t fully communicate the podcast’s unique value to the audience.
The speaker described the podcast's audience as highly engaged and deeply connected, noting they are the most dedicated listeners who want behind-the-scenes, detailed insights into daily life and content creation.
The speaker recounted a story where a brand offered $125,000 for a video he accidentally filmed on his vlog, which he later shared as an example of 'free money'—a story that Natalie found problematic.
The speaker argued that long ad breaks (like 60-second reads) are distracting and reduce audience engagement, suggesting instead that shorter, integrated ad spots (like 10 seconds) would be more effective and memorable.
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