MURDERED: Lindsay Buziak

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I mean, we partnered with the DNA Doe project. We partnered with Homicide Survivors, with Rachel. We did stuff with Rachel's week. We did stuff with like all these different wonderful organizations. And we got to meet so many of you when we were on tour. Yeah, but I'm so excited for what we've done. I mean, even thinking about Cara Schroeder and Jenny, with the Jody Locornio case, we raised money for billboards. I'm just so proud of what everyone did. And like the actions that you guys took, like these aren't just entertainment stories for you guys. You guys really took action in 2019. I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of us Brett, like in the show. It makes me cry honestly. It meets you, and I'm really excited to see what we can all do together in 2020. So with that, you know, we're not super chatty. Let's jump into the case I have for you today. And today, I am going to tell you about one of Canada's most notorious unsolved crimes. It's a story that is still making headlines in Victoria, British Columbia more than 10 years later. This is the story of Lindsay Booziac. Back in 2008, when this story takes place, 24-year-old Lindsay Booziac was a rising star in Victoria, British Columbia's booming real estate scene. She was young and still just starting out in her career, but she was already making a name for herself as an agent in one of Canada's hottest real estate markets, where homes regularly and easily sell for well over half a million dollars. According to NBC's Dateline episode called The Dream Home Murder, Lindsay was born and raised in Victoria as part of a big extended family, and she has lots of friends. Everyone who knew Lindsay described her as smart and caring and incredibly social. And that's kind of why she chose a career in real estate. It allowed her to be around people and interact with them on a daily basis. Lindsay was living at the time with her boyfriend, Jason, who was in the real estate business as well. He was a mortgage broker with a real estate license. Now Lindsay's dad was also in the industry, and so was Jason's mother. In fact, she was actually a manager at the Remax office where Lindsay worked. So real estate really was like very much a family business. Yeah, sounds like it. Now at the end of January that year, Lindsay got a call. On the other end of the line was a woman who was looking to buy a home in the area. She told Lindsay that her and her husband were making a move from Vancouver to Victoria for work. And they wanted something within like 20 minute commute from downtown, something they could move into right away. Like they wanted to close this deal in the next two days. They were motivated buyers, they said. Now this woman told Lindsay that they needed at least three bedrooms, at least three bathrooms, and a separate living space for a living housekeeper. Oh, so this is like a very high-end potential client. Oh yeah, they told her that they were willing to pay up to a million bucks for this house. Now this could be huge for Lindsay, who's pretty new in her career. Like I said at this point, and she's basically still building a name for herself in the scene. So you guys probably know that real estate owners make a percentage of the sale price of the house. So the bigger the price tag, the bigger the commission. So this was a great opportunity. And Lindsay wanted to take it. But she couldn't shake the feeling that something didn't feel right about the whole thing. She asked the woman, how did you get my number? Because Lindsay never got cold calls like this, and especially not on her personal cell phone. So the woman tells her that a former client of Lindsay's had passed along her contact information recommended her. And like, okay, word of mouth, that's cool. That's like kind of like what you do as a realtor. Right. Now Lindsay does make note that the woman spoke with an accent that Lindsay couldn't really place. It was weird enough that she told her boyfriend, her dad, and a few friends that the woman sounded quote, Spanish, but not really. And her dad says in several interviews, including that date line when I mentioned that she even thought the woman might be using a fake accent to try and disguise her voice. So this was like not feeling right to her. Like her gut was just saying something was off. So she decides before she's going to move forward to like double check with that client, the one who referred these new buyers to her in the first place. But that person was out of town and unreachable. So Lindsay wasn't able to like close that loop. What do you mean by unreachable? Like it's 2008 at this point. People have cell phones and email addresses. Yeah. And that's kind of what I thought too. And it's super strange to me. And I looked at a number of sources for this episode. And you can find all those on our blog. And no one really gets into like who this was or why they were unavailable. It drove me absolutely crazy. So anyways, even without satisfying her own gut check, Lindsay really wanted to take the client. Commission on a million dollar home is hard to turn down. And her boyfriend Jason agreed. He was like, listen, take the job. If you're nervous, I'll come too. And I'll just like stay outside on the street just in case. So this seemed less scary with her boyfriend there, especially with Jason, who was kind of a commanding presence. Lindsay's dad was quoted in an article for True Crime Daily saying that Jason could be pretty intimidating if he wanted to be like he was six foot, three inches tall, 240 pounds, a former semi pro hockey player. So definitely not a small guy. So him being there, even just parked outside on the street was going to kind of put everyone's mind a little bit more at ease. Yeah. It didn't take Lindsay long to find a couple of properties that matched just what the buyers were looking for. The one that the buyers were most interested in was a brand new three bedroom home in the town of Sanage, a suburb of Victoria. So Lindsay and her clients arranged to meet at 530 that Saturday, February 2nd, to show them the house. So Saturday comes Lindsay and Jason go grab a bite to eat at a local restaurant. Then Lindsay heads to the house and Sanage to meet her clients. Now Jason had to run a quick errand first, but he said, you know, listen, I'll meet you at the house. I'll be there just after 530. According to investigators quoted in True Crime Daily, the lock box on the outside of the home was opened at 529 pm, which is exactly what you'd expect for a 530 showing. At the same time, Jason was leaving the errand that he'd been running. He was actually dropping off some papers at a local business. He had a friend with him at the time and the two were actually going to play a hockey game later that evening. So they were together most of the night. So Jason and his friend like finished this errand and off they go to the house to meet Lindsay. Now when he's driving there, he texts her round 530 to say that he was leaving, and she texts right back to say that, you know, I'll see you soon. The clients are just arriving. At 538, Jason texts Lindsay again to say that he was a couple of minutes away. But this time, she didn't respond to that message. And in fact, she never opened it. But he thinks, you know, she's showing a house. So it's not super alarming that she's not responding. Jason and his friend pull into the driveway at 545. And And he sees what he assumes must be the potential buyers right at the front door. And he basically like sees them right in the door and then they walk back inside the house. So he's thinking like maybe they're like just getting there a little bit late and just now starting the showing. And he doesn't want to seem like a meddling boyfriend so he decides to move his car out of the driveway and onto the main street. Now he still has a view of the house from there but this way he won't be in Lindsay's way and hopefully the clients like won't even notice him. He and his buddy wait like 10 minutes in the car and then Jason text Lindsay again to see if she's wrapping up. Now this is like 555 now and again there's no response. At this point he's starting to get a little bit worried but again doesn't want to meddle. This is Lindsay showing this is a big deal. The last thing he would want to do is like put off her clients by being some overprotective boyfriend or by making her look like she's afraid to be alone with them right like she's a totally capable realtor right. So he waits a little bit longer. At 605 the clients have still not left the house and Lindsay is still not opening or reading his texts. Now for anyone who like hasn't bought a home how showing seemed like they might be like a pretty grand long big or deal but like when you're home shopping I mean honestly we were like in and out of ours in like 15-20 minutes say if it's over 30 minutes it's a bad showing. Yeah well granted I'm not I haven't looked at million dollar homes though so maybe it takes a little bit longer. Three beds, three baths there's not much else to see right but at this point I mean we're past 15 minutes like it's after six so he's starting to get a little bit worried and his gut is telling him like just go check. So he and his friend walked to the house and knocked on the front door no response. They ring the bell no response. So by now Jason's like listen I don't care about being an overprotective boyfriend I am going in that house but he turns the handle on the front door and it's locked. Now he's really worried worried enough to call 911 and get police on the way for a welfare check. While he's on the phone with police he sees that the house's back patio door is open just a few inches so he hangs up and according to Jason in his interview with Dateline he kind of like boosts his friend up over the fence so that his friend can go into the house through the back door and unlock the main entrance for Jason which he does. As soon as the door is unlocked Jason like burst through starts calling for Lindsey but here's nothing back her shoes are right there at the front door exactly where you'd expect to find them if you're showing a home and Jason immediately bounds up the stairs unknowing that his entire life was about to change. 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some media reports say over 40 times others say dozens of times and still others say like 10 to 15 times so there are actually a lot of conflicting accounts in several parts of Lindsay's story and this is just one of them and the reason I highlight this one specifically is because that I think the number of stab wounds could speak to mode it stabbing someone 40 times in the face and neck and chest where she had been stabbed as it was reported feels kind of like a deeply personal attack to me one with rage and passion behind that yeah I mean with that many wounds especially like in her face and neck that seems like overkill I mean we see a lot in cases where emotions are running high and crimes of passion yeah there's usually like some kind of connection to the killer right like and if you look at the other end of this like so we've got possibly more than 40 maybe as little as 10 like if if she was stabbed just enough times to ensure that she was dead this kind of could paint a different picture altogether and that could mean that there was a different motive right now I say that with a little bit of a caveat because 10 to 15 still could also be excessive depending on where she was stabbed so either someone didn't know what they were doing and they stabbed her a minimum of 10 times because she wasn't dying or they did know what they were doing and like nine plus additional stab wounds could indicate overkill now I don't know for sure which it is because police have never made any official statement about Lindsay's injuries except to say that it was a vicious and lethal attack the only thing that they have confirmed is that there were no defensive wounds on Lindsay's body and it appeared as though she had been attacked from behind caught completely off guard so I mean let's kind of go back again if someone who didn't know what they were doing was attacking her and they had to stab her a bunch of times to make sure that she was dead you would definitely see defensive wounds right right so I mean just pure logic I feel like this person knew her and I have one more reason for thinking that Vancouver Island free daily was one of the only outlets I could find that reported this but they said that her breasts had been mutilated oh that sounds pretty personal so yes it does if it's true I think it would indicate a very personal attack but again because no details about the condition of Lindsay's body were released I don't know if they were really mutilated or if they just took the brunt of 10 to 40 stab wounds but again personal attack in the heat of the moment or a well calculated kill by a stranger no matter which everyone is still asking why police started where they always start with the people closest to Lindsay her boyfriend her friends and family her co-workers now her boyfriend was the first person of interest everyone police had spoken to said the same thing Jason and Lindsay loved one another they were happy but there was more to the story according to interviews Lindsay's dad Jeff gave to both NBC date line and true crime daily there may have been some troubles in paradise about six weeks before Lindsay's death she had traveled to Calgary Alberta to visit her dad and while she's there Lindsay told him that she wasn't happy with Jason that she knew he was crazy about her but that he was also jealous and possessive and she didn't like any of those qualities Jeff said that Lindsay told him during that trip that she was thinking of ending the relationship with Jason so you have to kind of ask did Jason know that Lindsay was thinking of walking away or is it possible that he found out after that trip now Jason was cooperative from the very beginning he actually went back to the scene with police to do a walkthrough and he even reenacted what happened that night and they said that the evidence supported his version of events he answered all of police's questions and even passed a polygraph well and on top of everything he was the one on him made both 911 calls, right? Like, he was-- trying to protect and take care of Lindsay. - Right, and I mean, even more than that surveillance footage actually put him in another location entirely at the time of the murder. And he had that friend with him, the entire time who was part of his alibi. So the evidence supports his version of events. And in terms of an alibi, it seems pretty airtight. - I guess my only question is like, obviously he and Lindsay were very concerned about the showing and he's the one calling on a one after she's just not answering a couple of texts or even reading them. I guess, why did he show up on time in the first place? - So I think that would be suspicious if Jason's like singular focus that night was protecting Lindsay from potential danger, but he did have other things on his plate that day. So did she. For starters, according to Gary Rogers' research, and he's this retired homicide detective and former coroner who now writes a blog called Dying Words, the two were working together on another real estate deal. The business Jason visited that day after he and Lindsay had lunch. The former police had him on surveillance at 5.30. He was actually selling a property. Jason was the selling agent and Lindsay was actually representing the potential buyers. So it's actually possible that the main reason he was meeting Lindsay at the property that night wasn't to like be her bodyguard, but to deliver this paperwork. And like him being there to be like, you know, the muscle was just kind of like an extra benefit. And I mean, really, how many times have we said that I feel like we're beating this into people's heads every week. But often if something feels wrong or off, people always try and write it off. We have this underlying assumption that nothing bad will happen to us. It happens to other people. I'm just being paranoid, but it's okay to be paranoid people. So I really don't think that Lindsay thought she was like going to die or something horrible was gonna happen. I mean, I think if she really, really believed that, she wouldn't have gone or she would have brought Jason like inside with her right away. And it's possible that this like mutual deal that they had kind of gave them a reason to connect that didn't make them feel like they were being paranoid. Just like very casual. I'm gonna swing by and give you the papers and make sure everything's okay. - It just makes sense. Let's not freak out about it. It just makes sense for us to do this. - I'm gonna be there anyways, right? So police did have Jason on their radar very early on, but a little ways into their investigation, they end up being satisfied that he wasn't involved. Police also investigated and cleared Jason's friend, the one that was with him that night that Lindsay was murdered. And they also cleared the others in her close circle of friends and family. I mean, obviously they have to look at her friends and family and everyone she knows, but the focus should be on the clients she was meeting, right? - Oh, absolutely. Now, Lindsay hadn't mentioned their names to anyone, nor had she written them down anywhere. At home, she'd only ever referred to the couple as quote the Mexicans. And this was her nickname for them, kind of as a nod to the fake sounding accents that she heard during that first phone call. But, you know, police obviously didn't know who they were and they couldn't figure out a motive. Some people thought early on, maybe it was a robbery. I mean, they were super specific about wanting to see only pricey homes, but it didn't fit. Lindsay's watch, purse, phone, all of other things of value were still at the scene. And the house itself that they went to see was vacant at the time of the showing. So there's nothing to even steal there. It kind of feels like a hit at this point. So that's what police start thinking. It was totally possible that this couple wasn't potential buyers at all, but professional contract killers. And there was evidence to support this theory. Rosetta Stone, who have been the trusted leader in language learning for over 30 years, just launched Rosetta Stone's Sapphire, a new app that combines its proven immersion method with the latest innovation technology to help you learn faster, personalize your lessons, and have more fun along the way. The intuitive method helps you truly pick up a new language naturally, no memorizing random vocab, no feeling lost. I love that Sapphire helps you focus on what you actually want to talk about, whether that's football, travel, family, work, or your favorite hobbies. Your time matters, so your learning should too. If you want to take your language skills to the next level, don't wait to try Rosetta Stone's Sapphire. 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Now, this is when calls start to be made to Lindsay and Lindsay alone. Literally, this cell wasn't used for anything else. About six or so calls are made to her. And in the day leading up to her murder, they can tell that the phone traveled from Vancouver where it was purchased to where Lindsay lived. Then, after the murder, the phone is never used again and is completely untraceable. That seems super planned and organized. Very, so I mean, I think it's becoming a little more clear that this might not be the crime of passion we thought it was. This was a thoughtful and deliberate well planned murder. In addition to phone records, police did have an eyewitness who saw Lindsay and the couple that she was meeting that night. The witness said that they saw two people, a man and a woman walk up the street toward the house and introduce themselves to Lindsay. They only saw the man from behind. So the best description they could give was that he was about six feet tall and Caucasian. They got a better look at the woman though. She was between 35 and 40 years old, they said. She had shortish blonde hair, like not quite shoulder length and she was wearing a really distinctive dress. It was black, white, and bright pink. Now, this witness says nothing about their demeanor stood out. They looked totally normal, like any professional couple coming to check out the neighborhood. Were they able to get like enough description to make a sketch or something? So of the woman, yes, they were. Police actually released the composite sketch along with a photo of the dress that the woman has believed to be wearing because, again, it was pretty distinctive. And here I'll send this to you can take a look. - Yeah, that is definitely a dress that I would remember. It's black and white and bright pink, like you said. And the color blocks kind of swirl up the front of the dress. It looks like something you might see someone wear in like an office, to be honest. - Yeah, yeah, a professional looking, yeah, but definitely eye catching. It almost reminds me of like something a newscaster would wear. - Oh, that's true, yeah. But the sketch is provided is super vague. - Totally, like I look at that sketch. I mean, first of all, it's only of the side of a woman's face. And I look at it and kind of wonder why even bother putting that out. Like for how distinctive the dress is, the sketch is almost equally undistinctive. Like, like no joke, I feel like maybe a middle schooler could have drawn that. Like it's like an outline of a face with hair. Am I wrong? - 100%. - So because of how undistinctive it is, naturally police really focused in on the dress to see if that could lead to anyone. Now, based on the description, police actually thought early on that it might have been a designer dress, like something with a limited run that could maybe lead them to whoever purchased it. But that didn't end up panning out. It turns out that lots of this particular style had been produced and it was available in a bunch of department stores. - Okay, but like this eyewitness saw them go into the house did anyone see them leave? - No, so no one saw them leave. And frankly, I think it's kind of lucky that we even have a description of the couple arriving at the house considering the time of day. Like if you're playing this out in your head, the way that I played it out in mine, make sure that in the setting, you're accounting for the fact that it is February in Canada, like the days are getting longer by February. But the sun that day set before 515 PM. So by the time the clients arrived to meet Lindsay at 530, it would have been already getting dark. And by 534, it would have been fully black outside. Now, the people obviously weren't still in the house. So they had to have gotten out somehow. And we know they didn't like walk out the front because that's where Jason's car was the whole time. - Right. - So police actually brought in a canine unit to see if they could sniff out. trail. They assumed that the couple had exited out the back patio door. The one that was kind of left a little bit open and that Jason's friend actually went inside of. So then they're thinking, you know, they leave out of this door, they get over the fence out of the yard and they're thinking they went to the next street. But the dog doesn't pick up anything like the sense gone. So they're kind of believing that there must have been a car or like even maybe one with like another driver, there could be a third person, but there had to be some kind of way for these people to get away. Now based on Lindsay's phone records, police believe the attack happened at 541 pm inside that house, which means the couple greeted Lindsay in the driveway at about 530 followed her inside, killed her and got away all within like 15 minutes. 541 seems really specific. What makes police think that that is the exact moment? Well, when police looked at Lindsay's phone records, they saw those texts from Jason, the one that went unanswered as well as a phone call that was made by Lindsay at exactly 541. Her phone made a call to a contact that Lindsay hadn't been in touch with like at all recently. And that person could hear only like muffled noises on Lindsay's end. So police think that that was a pocket dial. Literally like Lindsay's phone was in her pocket when she died and that call was made right in the moment the attack was happening. Do we know if there was any physical evidence like this couple was in the house with her. Was there anything the police could go off of? So that's just it. There was nothing. There was no murder weapon at the scene. Investigators didn't find a single shred of physical evidence in that house, not fingerprints, not hairs, not DNA, nothing. Lindsay's killers had walked out of that house and disappeared literally without a trace. And like I want to talk just for a second about how brazen this crime really is. I mean, her killers couldn't have known that Jason would be outside waiting for Lindsay. But even so, this is not a secluded location. This is a suburban street. There are houses all around the property. And the fact that they walked out of that house hopped into a waiting car possibly and just drove off undetected is just like, I mean, you've got to be so confident that you're not going to get caught. And even more than that, police actually think that the man and woman were planning to exit out of the front door initially and onto the street. Because remember, when Jason pulled in that first time, he said he actually saw them kind of like step out of the door and then go back in. And he assumed that the showing was just beginning. But in date lines episode on this case, one of the lead investigators said that was likely exactly what they were planning to do. They were planning to walk out of the front door. And when he saw them coming out, they had actually like already killed Lindsay and were planning on leaving. But when they looked outside and they saw his vehicle in the driveway, they like calmly turned around and came up with a new plan. And the investigator actually said if Jason had arrived at the house, even a few seconds later, he would have literally driven past them walking down the street. Okay, so to me, this is even more evidence of this being a hit. The window for this crime went from like 15 minutes down to four. Well, how do you mean? Well, if they think that she was killed at 541 exactly, and the killers are, according to the investigator, potentially trying to exit the house at 545, that's almost unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, I don't see how anyone who isn't a professional hitman could commit a murder in that time frame and like just walk away from the scene. Yeah, four minutes, leaving no evidence behind. Exactly. But here's the thing. So if they were a hitman or a hit woman, a hit couple, yeah. So if they were a hit couple, they probably knew how to cover their tracks. And that's why there was nothing to go on to lead police to know who they were. So instead, the police, I think, kind of tried to like pivot again. Now knowing we have a form in a window, knowing this could be a hit, police tried to focus on why? Why would someone have wanted her killed? Hitmen or hit couples? As far as I know, don't just like go around taking people out as a hobby. It's a paid job. So who would have hired them? Who wants Lindsey out of the picture? Now, I mentioned before that Jason was cleared of any involvement in Lindsey's murder. Sanage police actually announced that publicly, which is really unusual. Still, the murder remains unsolved. And so anything is possible, even if it's not probable. So we know for certain, Jason wasn't the person to wield the knife that killed Lindsey. But a lot of people question, could he have been involved behind the scenes? Remember, there had been some talk about Lindsey being over Jason and about her maybe wanting to leave him. Like, if he was as jealous and possessive as some have said he was maybe that was mode of enough to want her dead. And people liked Jason for the crime as well because of how he acted immediately after Lindsey's death. Like, he didn't really cry. He didn't really seem rattled. And that gay people paused because they expected a boyfriend, like, especially a boyfriend who is so worried about her. He called 911 when she doesn't answer texts. Like you said before, like a boyfriend who was covered in his girlfriend's blood when paramedics arrived, they expected him to be more distraught. But listen, we've said it a thousand times. We all grieve differently. And I'm not never know how you're going to react in these situations. Yeah. And I'm not sure it's fair to judge someone's guilt or innocence or how much they even cared for someone based on whether or not they cried enough, you know. And other than a couple rumors about a dissolving relationship and people just not liking how he's handling the trauma, there's no evidence to prove that he was involved. But Jason wasn't the only person the public was skeptical of. They actually also suspected his mother surely as well. Now, I'm not entirely clear on motive here, whether it was to get Lindsey away from her son or to get her out of the way at work. Because remember, Shirley was the manager at the remax office where Lindsey was working. But there is a lot of talk online, especially there was in the early days about Shirley potentially being involved in Lindsey's murder and specifically had she hired someone to kill Lindsey. But just like Jason, Shirley has been cleared of any involvement by the police. And as time went on, as police were clearing Jason and clearing Shirley one by one, people who follow this case started to train their sights on a motive much bigger and someone who had a lot more to gain and lose from Lindsey's murder. Crime Junky listeners can get 20% off their Rosetta Stone Sapphire subscription when they sign up today. Visit RosettaStone.com/CrimeJunkey to redeem your 20% off. That's RosettaStone.com/CrimeJunkey and start learning a language for real. The strongest theory in the murder of Lindsey Boosey at case is like something from a movie. Now remember how I said that Lindsey had traveled to see her dad in a nearby Calgary, Alberta a few weeks before she died? Yeah. Well during that trip, Lindsey reached out twice to an old friend from high school, once by phone and another time through Facebook. Now this man, this old friend from high school, just happened to be a mid-level drug dealer with connections to a massive cocaine cartel. Now he wasn't a good friend or someone that she spoke to regularly. So why Lindsey was calling this drug dealer out of the blue? No one really knows. And if police know the answer to this question, they're definitely holding it back because they haven't said anything. And they've never even said if they've been able to track a motive for the communications in general. Like initially I thought maybe the guy lived in Calgary, so she was like reaching out to an old high school friend to see if he wanted to maybe like reconnect when she was in town. Yeah, I was actually going to ask you if he was in the area. No, he wasn't. He actually lived in Victoria. So that isn't a reason she would have called him specifically then. Now it's possible police don't even know why she made the call either to be honest. And according to Gary Rogers' blog, no one knows if she even reached him when she called or reached on a Facebook just that she attempted to contact him. Do you know if Lindsey was like a known drug user? As far as we know, she wasn't. And there's nothing to suggest that she was involved in drug trafficking or anything else illegal. So maybe this is totally innocuous. Like Victoria isn't a huge place and everyone pretty much knows everyone kind of from what I hear. So you can almost write off these communications altogether. Except over the next six weeks, something would unfold that makes it really hard for me to believe that the phone call was just like a bizarre coincidence. At the same time Lindsey was visiting her dad in Calgary in December of 2007, police were launching a massive investigation. into a Calgary drug trafficking operation with ties to Lindsay's hometown of Victoria. Now, they called this operation "high-new." In late January 2008, police seized a bunch of cash as well as 67 kilos of cocaine with the street value well over $2 million. More than a dozen people were charged in connection with that bust, including the guy that Lindsay tried to contact when she was in Calgary. Now, remember, this is late January 2008, the same time that Lindsay was murdered. Now, in that article I mentioned from True Crime Daily, Detective Sergeant Chris Horsley from the Sandwich Police said this about the fallout from that raid. "People lost a lot of money, and the people that lost the drugs know that someone spoke to the police," end quote. This same sergeant said that after the bust came a modern day witch hunt, where people were being pulled out of their beds in the middle of the night in threatens, so someone really wanted to know who that informant had been. Again, on his blog, Gary Rogers suggests that whoever financed the cocaine deal and ultimately lost all that money was pissed about it, and they ordered a hit on someone to set an example, and it could have been that that someone was Lindsay Booziac. But here's the thing, Lindsay was not the police informant in Operation "high-new." That much we know for sure. According to police, any contact she may have had with her old friend during her trip to Calgary had nothing to do with "high-new" and the drug bust that followed. So if this is the backstory behind Lindsay's death, and again, it's really just a theory at this point, it seems like Lindsay was either mistakenly identified and targeted, or even worse, just kind of collateral damage in all of this, like maybe a way to send a strong message that snitches won't be tolerated, like it almost seems like if this is connected, it didn't matter who was killed, as long as someone died and people knew why. Okay, but that doesn't make any sense, like, people don't know why. If she wasn't connected to anyone that they were trying to get to, like, what on earth would be the point of picking this random realtor just on a message and you don't actually leave a message behind? Now everyone's just speculating. No, listen, I agree, and it doesn't make total sense for me either, but I will say this. So Gary Rogers, the guy who's blogged on this case a ton, he goes as far as to say that someone from inside that Victoria real estate community was involved in, like, her death in some way. Basically, he's saying that even if Lindsay might not have been a, you know, random target, it was planned. And whoever was behind her death must have had some help from inside her circle. Because again, to Gary, to me, like, someone had to have provided Lindsay's personal cell phone number to that couple who killed her. Someone had to have given that woman the name of someone who would be a legitimate reference. Right. And maybe even know that they couldn't get a hold of her. Like, and they knew that Lindsay would jump at the chance to bring in a commission on like a million dollars sale. Mm-hmm. And, you know, it's even possible that they could have also, like, orchestrated the location, making sure that Lindsay had a short list that would include like a big empty house on a quiet cul-de-sac that would ultimately become the scene of her death. So with this criteria in mind, there is one person whose name comes up over and over again in this case. She was a one-time friend of Lindsay's and she actually worked with her in the remax office at the time when all of this went down. And this woman actually had connections, romantic and otherwise, to the folks who found themselves on the wrong end of that high-new drug bust. Now, I'm not going to say her name here because she's never been named officially as a suspect or a person of interest, but notably, she quit her job at remax pretty unexpectedly the day after Lindsay's murder. And again, maybe a coincidence, but if so, it's a pretty big one. Sanage police say that there is some truth behind this whole drug cartel theory, but they won't say what the connections are. And they clearly don't have enough evidence to bring charges or pursue a conviction, or they would have made an arrest by now. The lead investigators have said this case isn't going to be solved with physical evidence. It'll be solved when someone steps forward with information. And everyone thought maybe we were close to that information in 2017 when someone left a comment on the Lindsay Booziac murder.com site, and not just any comment. According to NationalPost.com, it was a full confession with a taunt. Here is what they posted of the confession. I killed Lindsay, and stupid cops will never prove it, so you all got nothing. No one gives a sh*t anymore anyhow except her crybaby dad. Even her fakey girlfriends have washed it away. Typical loser chicks. Sanage cops dropped it because they can't solve sh*t and were told to drop it. Cut the phony investigation. It's done. Go home losers. Forget about her. The street always rules b*tches die every day. Now, of course, in 2017, this got a ton of attention. Lindsay's dad, like one of this investigated, and it did get investigated, but the comment never ended up leading to anything substantive, and the case still remains unsolved. Now at this point, based on what they said earlier, it seems like police are waiting for someone to talk. In almost 12 years since Lindsay's death, secrets don't stay secrets forever. And until Lindsay's killer is behind bars, her dad will keep fighting to keep his daughter's story out there and to keep Lindsay's memory alive. And he's been very vocal about his disappointment with the lack of progress in the case. And he's been doing everything he can as much media as he can to get this case in front of as many people as possible. People news even reported on his appearance on the Dr. Phil show where he made some pretty bold accusations about the police and the people that he thinks are involved. And, you know, there are actually a lot of rumors online about who could possibly be involved in this case, who's tied to those drug dealers, like money laundering covers up. It's like a crazy, crazy web, which we can't fully get into because, again, none of that has been substantiated by police or other authorities. But if you want to go down that rabbit hole, I mean, you can check out the Lindsay Boosie at murder.com site for more information. And if you have any information about this case, there is a $500,000 reward up for grabs. You can make an anonymous call to Victoria, British Columbia crime stoppers at 1-800-222-8477. If you guys want to see any pictures or sources from this case, you can find all of that on our website, crimejunkiepodcast.com. And be sure to follow us on Instagram @crimejunkiepodcast. 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