Moses Itauma Speaks To Piers Morgan Ahead Of Heavyweight Fight vs Hrgović | Full Interview

- I'll tell you who's the deal. - It's just you. - Deal. - Moses. - Moses at Thomas. - Never lost a fight as an amateur. - Yes, from there now. (crowd cheering) - You haven't lost a fight as a professional. - Trailer outside of a ring and-- (crowd cheering) - Everybody thinks you're the guy. - Oh, wrong. - Yes, he's a parabola. - That carries with it. Anticipation, expectation. Do you think you have what it takes to live up to all the hype? - What's next for this emerging superstar? (dramatic music) - From the great Henry Cooper to Frank Bruno, Lennox Lewis, and Tyson Fury. Great Britain has a proud history of great heavyweight boxing champions. But it's no secret that boxing needs new blood. Britain and indeed the world is looking for its next true superstar. Well, many people in the know say that man is Moses Etalma. At the age of just 21, he's tipped to dominate heavyweight boxing for a generation. But as he got what it takes to be a true great, where Etalma fights Phillip Govich for the IBF heavyweight title on August the 29th, live and exclusive on the zone. And he joins me now. Moses, welcome to Uncensored. - What's going on, Piers, you good? I'll miss them all going as I say. - There's a lot going on, Moses, but probably not as much as there is in your world. I just want to play a clip before we get into the interview. From Joe Rogan, the biggest podcast on the planet. And obviously, one of the guys, most associated with UFC, he said this about you. - I'll tell you who's this. - It's just your fucking deal, Moses. Moses Etalma? Do you know who that motherfucker is? - That giant 20 year old heavyweight. - Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. - Did you see what he did to Dillion Y? - Yes, he's a pro. - Yes, he's a pro. - He's a pro. - He's just a pro. - That guy's a real pro. - Is he only 20? - 20 years old. - 20 years old. - He's just slightly older than Tyson was when he won the title, so he can't be the youngest guy to ever win the title. - Damn. - This motherfucker is so fast. He moves like a middleweight. He tuned this guy up, one round, man. I mean, again, white is past his pride. - He's also gotten beat up, white's gotten beat up. - Yeah, sure, Tyson Fury beat him up a lot of guys. - But this is the test you want for this year's contender. - It's the way he did it. He did it like, I'm a world champion. - Now Moses, when you hear someone like Joe Rogan, who knows a bit about fighting, when you hear him say that about you, what do you feel about that? - No, it's obviously nice to hear. Obviously Joe Rogan, there's somebody that, obviously I grew up listening to, I still listen to the podcast now. So obviously for him to obviously say that, and he's in combat sport. It's obviously a big deal. But if you're actually asking about what it does for me, like I kind of have to put it to one side, 'cause it's like, at the minute, I'm all, I guess, hopes. I'm all like, what I am going to be. And it's like, I'm trying to solidify myself as somebody does doing something if that makes sense. - Yeah, no, it does, and it's interesting, 'cause you say you'd never get nervous before fights. But I see you gulping water now, as you talk to me. Would it be accurate to say you would meet that? I don't know, I've been there, sorry. Boy, are you more worried about me to be fighting me than having a fight, Moses? - No, I've literally just been, it's hot outside. I don't know if you've been outside, it's hot. And I've just done golf for like two hours. So it's like, yeah, I ain't had a swig of water. - So you're not just palitating from burves about? - It's actually, I'm actually in Los Angeles, where it's about five degrees cooler. Centigrade than it is in England. - Now, obviously, I must be there something right. I'm getting interviewed by a person Morgan. - Well, your words, not my, Moses, but it means you've reached the big lead. But interestingly, I've, I've used to be a lot of boxes. I've used to be Mike Tyson five or six times, I think. I know him very well. I did Celebrity Apprentice in America, where Donald Trump was the host, actually, about 20 years ago, with Lennox Lewis. And we became very good friends in that process. I know Frank Bruno very well, from when he was before even thought for the British title, I knew Frank. So, you know, British heavyweight champions in particular, but also the greats like Mike Tyson, I've always been attracted to them as a sports fan, as a boxing fan. And everyone I talk to about you, Moses, says the same thing that Joe Rogan did. They all say, you're the real deal. You never lost a fight as an amateur. You haven't lost a fight as a professional. Everybody thinks you're the guy. That carries with it a lot of, a lot of weight of anticipation, expectation. It's a great question. I get asked this all the time, but I never actually answer it, just because it's like, I just don't know. With boxing, you train to get lucky. So, like, every time you do a training session every time, you try to catch them one per cent. It's like, you can never solidify yourself as a winner. It's just you kind of train to get lucky. And like, the more you train, the luckier you get. But there's always a chance you might go into the ring, and you just be unlucky, you know? Obviously, it's nice to hear them all the nice words, but it's like, at the same time, it already do me no favor. So I kind of do push them to one side, and I just see a crack home with my day. It's like, yeah, everybody's still touting me as like, I'm going to be the future. I'm going to, or I'm the next property or something like that. Obviously, once I beat Hogg of it, and I actually become a world champion, it's, I'm no longer, I'm going to do these things, but I've done these things, if that makes sense. Yeah, 100%. You know, you said recently to the Guardian, I don't actually want to be under the bright lights, but with the way I'm going, it looks like I ain't got no choice. And that is true. You then said, I'm not braggadocious. I'm not swaggered-docious. I love this quote. I don't do anything extraordinary outside the ring. I feel like your increasing popularity might be, because I come across as myself. I don't try to be anyone else. I love that quote, 'cause I think, when I think of all the sportsmen, I'm most attracted to as individuals, as personalities. It's the ones that I believe are authentic. They're not trying to copy anybody else, they're not trying to be compared to anybody. They're true to themselves above all else. Is that how you see yourself? 100%. I feel like being yourself is what makes you different nowadays. And I feel like being authentic is just like thinking, feeling, and acting all in the same way. And it's like, yeah, I think what attracts me to a lot of people is just, I believe it's just, that I don't put a facade on that. I try to be myself. Of course, when I'm coming front of a camera, obviously I want to be a bit more polished, that man don't say certain words. Just 'cause obviously I still have a family, I carry my father's name, obviously I have a family, I represent, you get what I mean. So it's like, I just, I'm a little bit more professional, but I'm still the same. Moses, tell me more. - Your mom is Slovakian, your dad's Nigerian. You spent the very early part of your life in Slovakia, and then you joined the rest of your family in Chatham in Kent, not a mile away, actually not too far away from where I was brought up in East Sussex. What do you see yourself as? Are you part Slovakian in your mind? Are you British now? Are you part Nigerian? How would you categorize how you view your own identity? - I'm more free. I'm more free, obviously, I'd say, obviously I was born to Slovak mother and Nigerian father. I was born in Slovakia, raised in the UK, but I think English, I'm a boxer through the British public as I grew up in Kent, so it's kind of hard to not call myself British. So yeah, I probably say I'm more free. I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say like, I'm not this and I don't think I have a choice if that makes sense of, I feel like a lot of. - No, I. - Especially like, I believe, like mix, race, people, they definitely do go for a stage of life is they try to pick a side. And I think in my experience, I've just accepted that I'm more free, you know? - Yeah, and I think that I wasn't a trick question, I think it's a complicated thing to answer, but you're clearly proud of fighting under the British banner and British boxing fans are very proud of you and have great hopes for what you may achieve. One of your brothers is also a very good boxer. Where did you guys get this fighting spirit from? is it from your mom, from your dad, from both? What do you think you've got from your slow-backed mom and your Nigerian father? - You know, my mom's very hardworking. She's a very resilient person. I might have got that probably from my mom's side. My mom's side of a family. They like fighting as well. Everybody grew up doing kickboxing in MMA. Like, was fighting in a local town, bars, pubs and that. So probably that fighting spirit probably came from my mom's side. But I guess, obviously, my dad's Nigerian, obviously, the rain. I have you eight, four out of, or so many Nigerians are dominating the sport of boxing. So obviously, like, you got a coldly, Anthony Joshua, Joe Joyce, Daniel Dubois, Deonte Walder, F.A. Jaguar. They're all shaking up the scene and they're all Nigerian. So I feel like, yeah, I think it's kind of from both. But obviously, not to take that, like, obviously, a lot of it was myself, obviously, I didn't just make it or I'm not making it in boxing, just because I'm slow-backed in Nigerian. Like, of course, I have to pat myself on the back and give myself a little bit of credit, because there's a lot of people. When I started off boxing, there was like a good eight, nine of us that were doing very well was boxing at a very high level. And it seems like I'm the only one that's left of that bunch. So obviously, I've got to pat myself on the back and say, I've done a good at that, you know? I interviewed two goats of, in my opinion, goats of their own sports last year. No vet, Jockovitch, the tennis player. And Christian Ronaldo is a good friend of mine, interviewed him many times, and the common denominator, oh, you did? Yeah, because I noticed you follow Ronaldo on Instagram, but you don't follow Messi. I think I'm a little bit more of a Ronaldo fan, but obviously, Messi is Messi in it. He is, but Ronaldo is the goat, in my opinion. But what was interesting about interviewing them and comparing it to your story is that they both came from absolutely nothing in terms of no money as a family. You know, Jockovitch talked about being in Belgrade when the NATO airstrikes came in, and they were spending $10 a week as a family. Ronaldo had so little money that when he went to the sporting Lisbon Academy, as you saw on the interview, you know, he would be given burgers by two kindly ladies at local McDonald's because he was so hungry. You yourself have talked about when my mum and dad separated, it was hard. Mum had to say, I can't afford to take care of you. You've got to live with your dad. Samuel, I lived in the house on Luton Road in Chattam that my dad owned. We had seven pounds a week to buy food. And I read that, and it really stood out for me, is one of the common themes of the greats of sport I've interviewed is that they all came from very little. Do you feel that that is one of the motivating factors for you, the drive, the determination, the commitment, the desire to reach the very top? You know what's mad? Recently, I've been trying to stay and sway away from this because I feel like it gives people from, I guess, middle-class backgrounds a limit. Like, it's as if to say, you can't achieve something unless you come from nothing. The majority of my childhood, like, I had a very good childhood, obviously, I was in that, in a household of my two brothers. I feel like I lived at anybody's or everybody's childhood that come from the UK, if you know what I mean. You obviously, on every Saturdays, you probably got like three, four quid that you took at your mum's purse to just like go and chill in the park you're there from 10 am to 6 pm, playing football, doing whatever. Like, I lived that normal childhood, you know. So, I wouldn't, obviously, it's not been a driving factor. It's not something that's motivated me because even when you get to a certain point of success, where, obviously, Ronaldo and other Dracovitch would have achieved. Like, it's like, you've earned your money now. But why did they keep carrying on? It's not, I wouldn't say it's like a driving factor, like money. It might have been at the beginning, but I think when you get to a certain point, I think there's something more appealing. And then, for me, it's obviously on become the heavyweight terminal world. If you do win, and most people believe you will, then from August the 30th onwards, the day after your victory, you'll be world champion. Your life will change dramatically. You'll become a celebrity, whether you like it or not. You'll become extremely wealthy, whether you think that's a good thing or bad. You've had time to think about this. What do you think that reality is going to be like for you to deal with? It's funny, because when I spoke to both AJ and Tyson, they said that the higher the fight, or the more high-profile the fight, is the bigger the crash they have. And especially Tyson was saying, you build up, you build up, you build up to such a big event, and then that event happens. And after you just have a big crash, so I don't know. I'm not even thinking about what's going to happen after that. I just want to get through August 29th. I believe it's August 29th. I think that's the day. It is August 29th, isn't it? How do you think you're going up against a guy who's a pretty good fighter? He's a lot older than you. He's been talking a big game at you about this fight. You know, many think it may be your toughest test. Do you ever get apprehensive when you get into a ring? Will you be apprehensive when you get into that ring on August 29th? I think we'll just have to wait and see. I feel like we've, I get asked the same question about pressure. How'd you deal with pressure, and next was Ed. And it's just something that is like, as much as you want to prepare for it, you just never know until you're under that bright light. So with that being said, I don't, I don't, I won't really know unless I'm there, you know. But I feel like I'm coping with it well. Obviously, it's not the first time I've headlined, I've headlined inside the rugby, I've headlined, Manchester. Manchester was a sold out crowd. So I'm dealing with it good, and I'm going to see. Hopefully I can continue shining. Mike Tyson famously said, "Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face." Do you think that your opponent on August 29th has got a plan for you that may be ended by a big right hand in the face? Or it could be the left. I don't know. I feel like being punched in the face should be part of your plan. It's alright having a plan and then thinking it's all going to go well, but you should have a plan B and C, you know. So yeah, I think I'm confident in my team, I'm confident in my preparation. Obviously, we only got two weeks now left until fighting that. It's like once you get to fight week, it's like you know the hard work is done. Like now it's kind of the easy work, which is to kind of just do a fight if that makes sense. How do you feel about all the comparisons to Tyson because to Mike Tyson? Because you would be the second youngest heavyweight champion ever after him. He was 20, you would be 21. Even Tyson's early trainer, a mentor, Teddy Atlas, says he thinks you're better than Mike Tyson at the same stage. He said, "Italma is different from Tyson in that he's more dimensional. He can do more things, he can box a little bit, he can counter punch. I've seen him set traps, he can go get you, he can go in the trenches, he can go in close, go to the body, go to the head, but punches together. Tyson was more of a one direction seek and destroy machine, but a very good one. Italma is one of the first heavyweight since Tyson. Well, I can say he shows you that combination of pure speed and pure power that Tyson showed. I mean, that's an incredible, I remember watching Mike Tyson. I went to several of his fights when he was 20. I'd never seen anything quite like it. If I have to have Teddy Atlas, say that about you, is quite extraordinary. Are you affected by that? Are you excited by that? Are you a little bit unnerved by that? Not really. Teddy Atlas, obviously, I know Mike Tyson and Teddy Atlas had a little back on fourth, so I don't know if he's just saying that just to dim it down, Tyson's like, with that being said, with Tyson, obviously, he was. I was an iconic man, not just in boxing, not just in sport, but just in history. I feel like I might have been maybe naive from obviously when I first turned professional obviously. I just wanted to emulate what tires and did and obviously become the youngest everywhere world champion. So I set my standard so high, I set the bar so high and I just wanted to kind of just get to the world title as soon as possible. Obviously, I wasn't able to get to the world title, but obviously I landed a dilly and white fight. Obviously, a couple months down the line, I have a world title fight, so I don't like to kind of, I don't like the claim of becoming the second youngest every champion only because like obviously seconds the first loser. I don't really want, I don't really want to have that claim. It's more of the fact that I just want to show people that I'm able to do things at such a young age, you know, and I guess I kind of, I can't help the comparison with my tires and that's probably something that I probably put on my own shoulders. Have you ever met Mike Tyson or spoken to him? Yeah, spoken to him. He might have been months or twice when he was a Saudi Arabia, obviously, he's a legend. Did he give you any advice? Yeah, he said not everybody is a bum and you could learn more from your losses than you do if you win, which I thought was very interesting because in my mind, I was like, I ain't even trying to lose, but you know, sometimes shit happens. Well you've never lost, which is a fascinating fact about you, it's added to your mythology if you like. It's why people think you are the great new thing because you just don't lose. How do you think you would handle a big high profile defeat if it came to it or do you not even allow yourself to think about it? You know, I thought about this question a few times and like, where I am in my life I believe, I think it would be more about how I lost more than if I lost. I just feel like it can never happen by the same time it could, so I don't know, it's one of the things I'll have to see how I get or see how I deal with it when I get there, but I don't want to get there if that makes sense. You know, it completely makes sense. Obviously there are big British heavyweight champions out there, Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury. You said about Tyson Fury, we won't fight, I don't think I would want to fight him. I sparred with him, that's enough of me, I'd be privileged to speak with him when I train him and he's a very interesting man, he's a big blessing showing the ring with him, even more of a blessing, asking about life, about religion, about money. To me, Tyson Fury is one of the most interesting people I've ever interviewed and I can absolutely imagine the conversations you've had with him being fascinating because he's a really fascinating guy. Why wouldn't you want to get in the ring with him? Well I would not want to get in the ring with Tyson Fury. It's more of the fact that obviously everybody knows that Tyson Fury is no longer in his prime, Anthony Joshua is no longer in his prime. These guys, they're all starting to hit the end of their careers, which obviously nature happens and for me to cool out somebody that's passed their best is just kind of, I think it's a bit disrespectful. I can sit in and say obviously Tyson Fury in his prime, me and my prime would be a great fight but obviously it's not going to happen. I've got a lot of respect for Tyson, obviously I've done a week in Malta, three weeks in Saudi, two weeks in, more come, I spend a lot of time with him, I've managed to pick his brains on a lot of things, obviously he's worked a path that hour on the walk, so it's like why would you not ask him loads of questions and that's the same thing for Anthony Joshua, obviously he was training with Ben Davidson for a long time, I've managed to pick his brains on a few things and it's like for me that's enough, for that as well be disrespectful for me to say I don't want to fight Anthony Joshua next but I said only because it's like he's obviously passed his best and I just think it's a bit rude to call out a legend like that especially when they've done so much in the sport that obviously I haven't yet achieved it, what's the best advice the pair of them gave you? Both of them actually said get yourself a good lawyer, that's probably the first thing that came to my mind, get yourself a good lawyer but yeah there's obviously there's more, Anthony Joshua, he's like one thing that stuck with me, he said folks in your boxing because that's ultimately prioritized your boxing because that's what everything falls onto is like if you start going off doing this and start going off doing that, I said it might take away from your boxing, it might not affect you physically but mentally it could, so it's like just focus on your boxing and then I guess Tassin Fury said something similar to that as well but his one was more especially on relationships and religion the next one I said so we've had some interesting conversations. What did Tassin tell you about relationships and religion? No everything's got for the camera piece. He's had a very good relationship with his wife and all his kids and stuff, are you currently in scolts with anybody? No, like everybody was once my age to get what I mean but obviously he left to ask the people that were doing the things that I'm doing at my age if that makes sense so it's good to ask these lot about them because obviously I don't want to make the same mistakes that they've made me being in a position I'm being and having to know that I could have asked them for their opinion you know. I get it completely, listen, 21 years old, my youngest son of three is 25, you're four years younger than my youngest son, that's how old you're making me feel most. But you carry yourself, if you don't mind me, I just sound patronizing but you conduct yourself incredibly well, I'd seen other interviews you've done, I think you handle interviews very well, you're very calm, you're very thoughtful about the way you respond to things. I think this is all very, they're very effective tools for you because your profile is going to explode if you become world heavyweight champion. I mean yeah, hopefully I get to sustain this person I am for a long time, obviously I know sometimes when obviously you put a bit of pressure, obviously you give somebody a bit of fame like it's not that they won't even become themselves but it's like they might have to do certain things to adapt to that lifestyle, obviously everybody's got to find their way or I'm going to try to never get my one as well. How important is religion to you? How important is religion to me? I think that's something that like you'll only be able to find out with time, as of obviously right now, I'm still obviously, I was raised to Christian, obviously I go to church read the Bible, so I said but it's just like obviously there's something that you do because obviously you've been doing it for a kid and then there's something that you choose to do, so I'm lost and I'm still trying to find my way. Did you pray? What would you mean? Did that or do I? Do you actively pray? Will you say a prayer before you fight for example? Yeah, of course, I pray with my family when I go to bed the next one I said them, fingers though, there's my group of people, the group of people I hang around with with all different religions so it does get a bit sticky when it's like before a fight, obviously when we make a prayer it's like everybody's different religions and it's like what'd you do? but I think everybody's got enough respect to, so I guess kind of joining in. - When I was doing the apprentice with Lennox in New York, I said to him, "Gena, when you go out and about, do you get into fights with people because you're the world heavyweight champion?" He went, "Of course." I said, "Really?" I said, "Well, often," he went, "Yeah." I said, "What happens?" He went, "Dude, what do you think happens?" In other words, he used to bang him over. I mean, "Dude, go out and get him to scr. "Does anyone have this stupidity "of trying to take you on in a bar?" - I hear it. You know when I was, when I was boxing as a schoolboy, and I was the heaviest one out of everyone, and all the little ones used to pick on me because they tried to like, assert their dominance to be like, "I'm gonna pick on the, on the big guy." And then obviously everybody else will, everybody else will respect me. So it's like, everybody had that forte. So obviously there's one or two slaps you got to give up, but nothing too crazy. - I can't even imagine what a slap from you is like, Moses. You know, man, if you might have to ask my peers from when we went to, we went to a couple of tournaments. Sometimes obviously you've got to show them, but at the end of the day you don't obviously want to abuse that because it just gets long. - Did you think that you are the best heavyweight in the world right now? And the reason I'm asking is that Alexander Uzik, who is a great heavyweight champion, I think will be one of the all-time greats. He said he doesn't want to fight you. He said he doesn't want to break you. Do you think Uzik could break you or do you think it might be the other way around if you've got a ring? - Absolutely not. I don't, yeah, again, there's obviously something where it's like, okay, I got to respect Uzik because obviously he's done a lot of things that I haven't done. We'll sit at the same time. I'm not obviously just going to sit here and obviously agree to everything that comes out of his mouth. Obviously I've got a lot of respect for him and his team. Though I think I'm the best heavyweight, yes, I don't feel like I've proved it yet. And obviously Uzik has proved what he's capable of. So slowly but surely I think people, it might be one of them questions where it's like in their prime Morse's time or Aleksandr Uzik, who could have win. But yeah, obviously as of right now, if I had to say that I'm one of Smash Music, it's like it's a bit arrogant and it's a bit. It's not right for me to say because obviously I haven't beat the caliber of opponents that he's beat. - That's very, I think that's very measured of you. I think if someone said to me, I'm going to break you. That's why I don't want to fight you. I'd say, "Well, go on then. Let's have a go." - Oh man, seems like you ain't been punched in a face-pissed. - Actually, I had been punched in the face by Jeremy Clarkson. He didn't carry quite the power that punch you, he would carry. Yeah, the scar on my head is actually from his. This scar on my head is actually from his right fist. Yeah, 20 years ago. I can't see you, I can't see you, but I mean, I'm sure when I was, I can't see you. - The little scar on my neck, so I think it was from Tot Gear. - Yes. Yes, that Jeremy Clarkson, yeah. - Can I, can I, can I? - That was the last fight I had. - Well, it was a long story, Moses, but I wouldn't say I was entirely undeserving of it, but it wasn't the most for a. It's when he hit me for the third time and I said to him, I said to him after the third punch, is that it? My three-year-old hits me harder than that, which I think probably something that also he. - Exactly. He broke his little finger hitting. - You were caught with a free piece. - He broke his. Yeah, but it's because I wasn't hitting him back, but the third one, he actually broke his little finger on my head. So if you ever meet him, check his, I think his left little finger, because it's, it's, it's disfigured. So we both have our scars. - It happened in it. - Moses has been great talking to you. - You have to suffer the consequences. - It does, it does. Yeah, my brothers were not happy. I didn't hit him back, but I was sober and he wasn't. And we ever, I think in common, we're both massive Arsenal fans, Arsenal, the Premier League champions. Where were you when we won the Premier League? And you think we're going to win it again this season? Where was I when Arsenal won the Premier League? That's a great question. I would not have a clue. - It was a Tuesday night when, when city, when city played Bournemouth. Do you remember it was a Tuesday night? And about, it was about five days before we got the trophy. And I remember, because I was at home, one of my sons went up to the Emirates, so it was crazy stuff going on at night. You don't remember where you were? I would not have a clue, honestly. Yeah, I'll have to go back to a specific date. My life is hectic. I wouldn't, I wouldn't really be able to tell you. Do I think Arsenal going to win it again? Yeah, I think we've got a good chance. I think we do. Man, see, you do look good all the time though, ain't it? So, yeah, I think we could. There's a lot of Arsenal players with Nigerian heritage right now. Do you feel on the finishing with those guys? I don't know, Pith. I don't know, it's just one of them things in it. It's like, if we ever cross paths, if we don't, it's just unfortunate. Obviously, some things can be forced, but yeah, obviously, it has to be authentic, you know. I'm not just going to be made to someone just because, obviously, they're Nigerian, like I last obviously get on with that person, and so I mean. I think you get on very well with the people like Bkaya Sakur and those guys there. They like you. They're humble. They speak well. They come from very good parents. They're actually, most of them, I think, are Christians too. I'm very impressed by them. I think it's one of the reasons why Arsenal are doing so well, is they have a lot of players from very good backgrounds who have been brought up the right way. I think you have two moses, and how do you just finally, how do your parents feel about the big fight coming and the possibility that their boys going to become world champion? I would not even know if they know. I don't think my parents know, but, my dad, he was like, what did he say? He wanted to cool my coaches because he wanted to discuss the tactics with them, because his friends from back home in Nigeria have told him something, and he was like, "Yes, we must discuss the tactics. I will come down and I will tell him, you have to give him a hard punch in round one, so in round ten, he cannot stand." Just like, this is my dad, I mean, he's like, "You must attack the body, just slow him down, and then you finish it up." That's literally my dad, but my mom, I think my mom is just fafing me no matter what. Even when I was boxing in the Europeans as an amateur, my mom's like, "Oh, my son will beat all these boys." She was like, even like when I remember, in a couple of my, I think I remember I was boxing in Turkey, and then I was like, "Mom, that's what I'm boxing." And then she was like, "You will beat this fat boy." And I was just like, "That's what the type of smoke that my parents are on." It was fantastic. You had a great line about your mom that she reminded you of one of Ivan Drago's family from the Rocky movie. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what it is, like, growing up where my mom grew up, it's like, it's just cold, and it's like in the mountains, it's like, 1,000 meters above altitude. It's just like them, I say it's a horrible place, it's not, it's a lovely place, especially during the summer, but when it just hits winter and it's like minus 15, 20 snow in, it's just horrible. Well, it's a bit different in England right now, where it's adding to its 15th wave of the summer. Things will get very hot for you if you win on August the 29th. It's been a great pleasure to interview you. Thank you very much for your time. Best of luck on August the 29th. Thank you. And the next term I interview you. Thank you so much. I confidently expect you to be world champion. It's a best of luck. I appreciate it. I will get even. Our sensor is proudly independent. 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