The conversation explores the complexities of parenting, particularly how children's behavior evolves with age and development. It highlights that shifts in a child’s temperament—like moving from an "easy" to a "hard" kid—often reflect natural developmental phases rather than intentional rebellion. Parents are advised to engage in open, one-on-one conversations with their children to understand their emotions and needs, especially when issues like sleep disturbances or school resistance arise. These behaviors, including lying or pretending to be sick, are seen as manipulative tactics common across generations, but now amplified by modern access to mental health discussions and social media. The discussion also touches on how children, especially younger ones, may lack the emotional maturity to manage stress or express feelings appropriately, leading to anxiety or acting out. While mental health awareness is a positive development, it raises concerns about potential manipulation, especially when kids use emotional vulnerability to avoid responsibilities. The speaker emphasizes the importance of parental awareness, empathy, and consistent communication, noting that both parents and children benefit from honest, non-judgmental dialogue. The conversation concludes by reflecting on broader societal changes—such as increased access to mental health resources and the influence of media—on how children express themselves and how parents navigate these challenges. Ultimately, the key takeaway is that parenting remains a deeply personal, evolving journey where emotional intelligence, patience, and trust are essential.
Yeah, Charlemagne, the God Andrew Silk, we are the brand of these podcast back for another week of brilliant idiot Niz has a kind of walk up. I hope I hope what Charlemagne just told me before this podcast started never sees the light of day. What's his brainstorming some sketches? Yeah, we were just, I can't brainstorm a sketch into. I think you can even call that a stretch. Exactly what would have happened that was what happened to his butt hole. Listen. How was your weekend, man? Yeah, my weekend was good, man. What'd you do? Anything fun? I'm worried. Was I in this weekend? No, last weekend. Oh, the past weekend. I don't even know what I did. I just hung out with the family. Oh, no, we went out east. We went out east with the family. Was at least Hampton? Hampton. Let me just did a nice little Charlemagne with the fan, bro. My daughter's like, just awesome. Around two, they start to really communicate and you went through this four times. You already know, but like you get to actually engage with them, play with them. Negotiate with them. Imagine things. It's a beautiful thing. That's the goal. It's nothing. Okay. It's not going to mean anything when they get to about six or seven because they become whole different people. Oh, really? Whatever that sweet little innocent thing is now, oh my God, because at some point there's going to be a turn around six or seven and you're like, who are you? Did you get possessed? What happened? And don't let one of them, like let's just say one of them early was like the rebel Rouser. Right? Rebel Rouser. What is it? Rebel or Rebel? If one of them early was the Rebel Rouser and then the other one was the calm one. At some point, the personalities are going to switch. Ooh. I was like that, too. Apparently, I had what is it called? The terrible twos. You heard of that? Oh, man. Yeah. I was like terrible at that age and then like, I was fine the older version where you're supposed to be terrible. It was one of those, switch. Did you experience that, Chris? Yeah. I mean, I'm in the middle of it right now where my quote, easy kid, oh, now she's going to the hard kid and my quote hard kid is great. Yeah. So you never know. And that's as teenagers and adults. So buckle up. By the way, nothing breaks your heart more than the easy kid, but you know, we put too much on them early. I know. Right? So the easy kid, I'm like, how can my easy kid be easy and they're only seven? Yeah. They just got here. So, you know, they're going through phases and when the easy kid becomes the hard one, but you're the other one being like, yo, what happened? And to sit this outside of your control, right, it's like their environment at school, their friend group. Yep. Yeah. Oh, I did a whole deep dive on it yesterday. I was just like, yo, what the fuck? But that's exactly what it is. Like there. Can you sit down with your kid at that age and like, will they, will they be like self-aware enough to tell you what's going on? I think so. I mean, that's the only way I know how to even do it. How do you do it? What do you do? And then you got to have a conversation. One on one. One on one. Okay. So how do you approach that? And how old is she? Seven. Okay. She's seven years old. You sit her down. Is your wife present or is it just you? Yeah. She's there sometime, but you just, you got to just sit there and talk to her and ask her, what's wrong? You'll start with, there's something wrong. You're not just like, what is it after you look, by the way, this is after I've exhausted everything. I've exhausted the yelling and the like, yo, you're going to do it. I got to that. Yo, what's wrong? What's up? Like, what's going on with you? Blah, blah, blah. And so once you have that conversation, they're still going to look you dead in the eye and say, no, I mean, and it's just like, you got to let them deal with it. What I'm trying to convince them of now, at least the one is that you got to see things through. Like everything can't be, when you don't want to do something, I'm sick. When kid, because you can't play with that like because, because you, as a parent, you're constantly going to take your children to the doctor every time they say to this thing. They learn a way to stomach hurt. My daughter's doing this right now where like, you know, we'll put her down to sleep and I'll, you know, read the books and everything and then I'll, you know, go, okay, it's time to go to bed. She'll go to bed. And then she'll go, after I leave, she'll like, wait a minute, she'll be like, daddy, I have a poopy. See what I'm saying? And it's, she knows that if she's shit herself, I have to come clean it. Yeah. I'm learning like the mechanisms of manipulation at two years old, she's going, my dad's not going to leave me with a shit in my pants. So I'm going to lie to him about having a chance so that he comes against me. That's at two years old. So you're trying to teach all of them less than seven. You're trying to teach these lessons about not lying number one, number two, could, could lying lead to so many things, I have to trust you as a parent. Yeah. And the, the worst thing is when the kids tell you that they sick you, because you, you can't dismiss that. Nope. You know what I'm saying? So I'm, I was trying to convince her the other day, because like, you know, she complained about stomach aches, stomach aches, by the way, this has been going off for like a couple of years now. Yeah. So you take it to the, I'm like, we took her to the doctor one time and she got me so convinced that something was wrong with her stomach and they're doing the x-rays and everything else. And like, we can't really see her appendix. And it was like, you know, I think at the time she might have been five. It's like, you know, you may, you know, we could look inside, like, I thought it just cut her open to look inside. But you're, you're trying to, which you're trying to explain to your kids. This is why you can't just say this, but it was shit. But it plays off of all your deepest insecurities and fears as a parent, which is like, your kid has an issue that you can't see, but could potentially be wrong with them and you're not going to protect them from it. Oh, they can't advocate for yourselves. Exactly. You need to advocate for them, but they also might be bullshitting. Yes. And then, and I told her, I told her the other day, I said, you do realize. Every single time you don't want to do something, whether it's go to sleep, whether it's track, go to track, track this, whether it's play rehearsal. Can I? Can I ask you something? Everything. Go to my world. Welcome to my world. But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. This is your youngest, no? No, third. That's all right. So it's your third. Yeah. Your third and your fourth have grown up in a level of wealth that your first and seconds did not know. Yeah. Second did. Okay. Maybe. But still, it's continuing to escalate. Is there a, is there a version where you're looking at them and this could be completely false? It could be just kids doing kidship, right? But, or is there a version where you ever think as a parent who came from nothing financially, obviously? But like, is there a person where you go, oh, are my kids soft because they grew up with luxury? Did they not deal with the hard knock frustration and trials and tribulations that makes you more resilient? Like, do you start to talk to your wife about that? No. I don't give a fuck. Like, I'm so happy that they lived the life of luxury. Of course you're happy. But are you going, are they saying this because they can get out of stuff? Where is? I don't even, you know what's so interesting? Where are thinking about it from a money aspect? They're not thinking about that at all. I know. I'm saying kids. What I'm saying is, are you projecting your feelings about money onto your kid? Like, no, I don't think money I'm going to do with it. I think because we used to do that. I'm trying to ask. I think it's a generational thing. I'm very aware of what you're talking about. Where are you going? I don't even know how to communicate. I feel I'm less resilient than my father was. Exactly. Here's a good example. My mom comes from nothing, right? And she busts her ass. My parents, for this dance studio, they're able to provide a life that my mom could never even fucking imagine for herself as a kid, right? I'm sure seeing us maybe not do as many chores, not help out is around us. There was a cleaning lady that came by every week. There's a little part of her that's going, am I enabling my kids? Am I making them not hard workers or am I making them think that this is a normal life? And I could feel that kind of insecurity creeping in where like, it didn't as much with my dad. But I don't think it's just money. I think it's our society as a whole where we've trained these kids to express what they're feeling. That's a whole other deal empowered in a way that certainly my parents never were encouraged to express themselves. So now we got a reward, whatever you're feeling, but now you can use those feelings to manipulate me. Well, both we all are saying, but we all played sick and we didn't want to do something when we were kids. So that's the other thing. They're probably just doing kid shit. That's it. But my mom would look through the lens of like, have I made soft boys because I tried to provide a better life. And we're probably looking at like, I'm going to work my ass off, like I'm just being a kid. Yeah. No, for me, it's just like, I don't want you to bowl shit me because I don't want to get anything wrong. If there's something, and I worry about the health of your child, I'm using the, I'm talking about the boy who cried. Well, I'm like, you know, you know the story of the boy who cried? I'm telling the boy who the story of the boy who cried with because I don't want y'all to be that because if something is actually wrong, then we got to, we got to actually come up with that. Yes. I mean, kids, I mean, you're watching your child, they're the best actors in this. I mean, God. I mean, if you just put a camera on them, I mean, falling on the floor, having this, you know, my seven-year-old, cheap yesterday, she had a play practice, play rehearsing. So we just, we dropped my 10-year-old off somewhere from driving back to the house in between, right? You know, in between, but then we get a call from the school saying the seven-year-old is in the nurse's office, and I'm sitting there like, let me guess. Her stomach hurts. I'm like, oh my God. So we go pick her up and I already know she does not want to be at play rehearsal because she didn't want to wake up in the morning. So it was all, oh, they took so, so it starts with trouble sleeping. I can't, I'm having trouble sleeping at night, so she's not sleeping, but she's waking up super groggy. She doesn't want to go to school, so now she's at school, got to school, now she doesn't want to go to play rehearsal. There's one thing she's avoiding. Listen, we picked her up and play rehearsal. She laid in a, she's like this in the backseat. If your hands are crossed, if they have arms.
- Right, right, leg straight out. And I'm just like, you know, she is putting it on. - But you can't totally ignore it. - No! - 'Cause I had a similar situation and it turns out there was something at the root of it. And it took a long time to come out. - How old was it? How old was you then? - Oh, this is, you're talking 16. - See, that's what I'm saying. She said, this is seven. - But in retrospect, it started at that age. - Really? Okay, okay. - Oh, you're fucking them. - Okay, no. - No, listen, let me tell you something, man. There is no greater game, not chess, not any video game you can play that is more difficult than navigating raising kids. - Woo! - 'Cause now they have the language of mental health. - Yeah? - Through some fucking video. - In an out movie, man. - That's you. - And side out, you're fault. - Right. - You did this to all of us. - They can talk about anxiety, which is fantastic on one hand, right? - Yes. - But as they are kids, they can be manipulative. They do want to get a, I can remember in retrospect, even as a teenager, I would get these terrible stomach ramps. I can remember going to a concert and feeling uncomfortable and I was nervous and I actually had to lay down and I, but, you know, I never talked about it with my parents and I was feeling anxiety, but you just kinda powered through it. - There's these kids talk about it. - Yes, they do, but I'm almost like, it's not that we're telling them about mental health, like both of my parents suffered from depression and they're internalized. It's very like a wear of mental health. It's a therapist. I didn't feel anything that, like, wrong about talking to a therapist, talking about mental health to being sad, depressed, whatever, like all these things were like, very normal in my household. - You might be in the minority of it. - Well, what I would say is, it wasn't societally rewarded yet. So within my household, we were very comfortable talking about it, but I still knew that there was societal scrutiny to be walking around going, I'm sad or I'm anxious or I'm whatever. So while I could maybe talk to my parents about it, I wasn't utilizing it as a manipulative tool to get out of work or I need a mental health day or like a teacher is giving me too much homework and I go this is, this pressure is mounting. Should I even heard a story from a friend who will remain name was where like, they had to look at mental health evaluations for the people that were going out for a sport in high school and they had to keep a kid on a team to say thought that he was, his mental health was so shaky that if he didn't make the team, he might do something. So they rewarded. - God dang it. - Right. You know what, no, there's a part of me that's not mad at that. - Well, go. - Make 'em a pointer. All you wanna do is be a part of something. So if you feel like this guy really could end up being some lone wolf shooter, put 'em in a uniform, put their helmet on 'em and make 'em feel good. So, about 'em so. But I don't have a problem with that. This is what I asked 'em. And I was like, did that circumstance take away the opportunity from someone else that would deserve to be on the team? And they said, no, we just open up another spot for the crazy motherfucker. - Yeah, because the reality of this situation is, they're not doing that because they are afraid of this kid and, you know, afraid of liability. - They're afraid of this guy getting a gun and coming to shoot up the fucking school or hurt themself. I think it was hurt themself. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that one. I'm not mad at that. - Or should the kid have learned the lesson? - Okay, you're not skilled enough at this sport. Go and practice. If it's basketball work on your left hand. - I think this guy want to be a different type of shooter. You fucking out. - You know what I'm saying? - He's on Wix, you know what I'm saying? You know, I don't have a, I know that feels pussy. For our generation, but I don't feel bad about it based off all in the context you just told us. - So, the question is like, how much do we change the meritocracy to control for catastrophic events? And we can sit here and be like, that's silly to do. But every time we go into airport, we take our shoes off because we're trying to avoid a catastrophic event. - Yeah, so we do change rules for catastrophic shit. - Yes, and listen, even when it comes to the kids, right? I don't have a problem with kids and us having these conversations about mental health. Because I do see where putting a young child in therapy at like eight, nine, I've seen where it can benefit them. Having somebody to sit down and talk to and talk about was going on at school. I understand that. Yo, I don't know if it was my therapist or maybe it was my wife. Somebody told me something the other day. Maybe it was a conversation I was having with another father about how when kids are going through things, we like to tell them and suck it up. Yo, like we went through way worse, blah, blah, blah, this and that, but did we not want somebody to talk to? - Hell yeah. - Did we not want somebody to put their arm around it? Did we not like when we were in the guidance counselor office and the guidance counselor was just actually talking to us about our fucking dealings? - Yeah. - Yo, I don't care what age you are. - No, you got that matters. - I think it's huge and I think just, it listening to one of the best things I think my parents ever did for me is we had dinner every single night together, five, 30. He was like, my mom worked nights and my dad worked days, but there was like a window for like an hour and a half where I had both of them and we had dinner together. And they just asked us. They're like, how was your day? What was going on? And without having to pry, they knew a lot going on in our lives. And I felt like they cared. I felt like when I spoke it had value to the people, like the people that I cared about the most, actually were interested in the things I had to say. And now not everybody has that opportunity, but like still it was, it was amazing. - My wife just told me this shit, talking about like, you know, like, you know, older daughter and 17s, when your older daughter comes to talk to you about stuff, or even the 10 year old, you know, they'll come and tell you about stuff that's going on at school or, you know, with their extracurricular activity. My go-to is always, and that shit don't matter. Like them kids that you worried about are like, those kids that you got, you're not even gonna be friends with them in the next five years. Like that shit don't matter. - But it does matter to them. - It does matter to them. Now, now, now, am I speaking from a 47 year old perspective who's lived enough life to know like, they don't know that, they don't know that yet. - You gotta meet them where they are. - Gotta meet them where they fucking are. - And that's my, that's my problem. - No, but this is good, you're even aware of it. Like, that's the other thing about the mental health shit is getting out of your own fucking wake. - Oh, I wasn't aware it is still about two weeks ago with my wife explaining this shit to me. 'Cause I was like, that sounded vice, that you're concerned about somebody that in five years you won't even know. - Yeah, bro, but you gotta understand it's like, it's like the Bible, it's like, how many times does God gotta say, hey, treat others how you wanna be treated? - Yeah, I mean, and it's like, he knows. He's out there like, trust me, your life is gonna be way better if you do that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - He's still got motherfuckers arguing with him. - Now, shall not know that motherfucker in five years. Like, no, I know him now. - I know him now, right now. And I'm like, and we're just tough, right? 'Cause if somebody would have told us, by the way, so people did tell me that when I was younger. So, imagine, think about how small our world was when we were in high school in middle school. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - These kids are in a much bigger world than it's much scarier. They're under pressure that we, it's perceived pressure. I'm just thinking, me going through my social media the other day. World War Three. - Brother. - All the jobs are gone. AI's gonna take all the jobs. Unemployment, you know, I'm looking at it being like, damn. - I went down. - I imagine a 16 year old kid seeing that day in, day out, day in, day out. - Chris, you're right. You know what's so crazy about that? Yesterday I text Chris. I text shoulder like, yeah, I think he might drop the nuke. My whole algorithm on Instagram was nothing about, was nothing but videos on how to survive nuclear warfare. And I'm sitting there thinking like, you little stupid motherfuckers have no idea what you're talking about. There is no surviving nuclear warfare. So if, if, if young kids have to deal with that and then we're trying to have a regular conversation with them about shit like this, no, if I, if you're coming to me telling me, well, when a nuclear bomb, when nuclear bomb drops, all you guys do is go into the house and stay in the house for 72 hours. - Really? - Yeah. - That's what the fuck you. - What house, you know, what house? - Exactly. So am I the, so I'm bad for telling you that this is not the way this shit is gonna go? - Yeah. - Now, I'm Mr. Optimistic for everything except for shit like this. But I've never had to deal with this in my lifetime. - Well, there's an example. In the early 80s, there was a TV movie called The Day After. - I remember that shit. - And it was about a nuclear bomb hitting an American city. And it was considered so potentially damaging to the mindsets of teenagers, young people that think it off. - Well, no, the day they aired it, they had to have special assemblies for the kids to be able to talk about it and process it and discuss it. Now they're just getting that shit every 30 seconds on their feed, but there's really no way to process it. - So maybe here's a question just about mental health and it's net positive in the kids are now feeling comfortable and even like young adults, adults hopefully, feeling comfortable expressing difficult emotions that they're dealing with. - Yes. - So now we all have to worry about like some manipulative people using it to their advantage. But the hope is that the people that might have self-harms because of what they're dealing with and an inability to communicate the world, hopefully less of them do that. So we got to deal with more annoying people, but we have also get the benefit of hopefully less people hurting themselves. - It's definitely a net positive. But I wouldn't even say manipulative because there's almost a negative connotation to that. I just think things are hard for kids and the way they learn to get past it [BLANK_AUDIO]
We were talking about people at work that go like, I'm, I'm, I need a mental, I had to get help with it. I need a mental health, and I'm like, what is that even? We all need that. Like, this is, we all take one together and just everybody just have a day off. That's Christmas. It is. It is for the December for that. There is certain things that kids have been doing since the beginning of time. Like, your kid is going to pretend to be sick and you gotta take his serious. Nowadays, your kid, like, and now, these kids have always pretended to run away. - I did that shit. - Where the fuck do we get that from? - Yo, my parents, my parents played me, bro. I said, I'm running away. They must have been stressed, man. They, my parents must have been really stressed 'cause they let me walk out. And I walked out the apartment and I went down to the lobby. I hung out in the lobby for hours. I had to walk back upstairs and knock on my own door, like, all right, I'm back. I must have been, but that's how you know kids are kids. - Five, five. - But that's how you know kids are kids. That's how you know kids are kids. - Yeah, like, I couldn't have been that much old sex. Like, you know, your parents. - Son, they let me walk out the apartment and I just stayed in the lobby and I had to go back up tomorrow in the apartment. - This is bad. This was like, low east side, like, this is a crisis. - How do you know that? - Now we're on Upper West. - Oh, okay. - We're on Upper West, but it was, I was thinking out with the door guys and they were like, yo, what's up? And I'm like, I'm ran away. - You was just running around by yourself at five for a couple of hours. - I was walking on the lobby. I didn't have the balls to leave, but my parents called my bluff. And I never threatened to leave again, 'cause they knew I was pussy, bro. I wasn't about that life. - You know, but that's how you know kids are kids, 'cause think about that, running away. What do you think is out there? (laughing) - When you say, go-- - It's better than the punishment, huh? - That's what the kid thinks is better than the punishment. - No, I don't think it's attention. - I think it's just, I want attention. I don't know how to say it. - I did it. I was a little older, like 12, 13, 'cause I was getting in trouble and she's like that. I went with my uncle. - Yeah, I called her. - I went to my uncle and he put me to work. And I should worse than if I would have stayed at home. - He was on the way and he was on the way. His uncle put him to work and he was paying his nails ever since. - He on the way. (laughing) - He ran away to his uncle and his uncle put him to work. - Sometimes he got hurt, man. - That's the hard one, man. (laughing) - That's an inch is that it, that's the hard one. - Thank you. - Oh, man, like, my God. - My God, that's it. - That's it, listen, I don't know what the fuck the moral is. There's no moral of this story. Is it being apparent is no joke, bro. - No joke. - No joke. You gotta navigate all of these little personalities and you just hope you do a good job without fucking traumatizing them in some way, shape, or form. But man, when you get, when you get to that, when you, I don't punish my kids the way I used to get punished. So there's no beatings or anything like that. But you gotta, sometimes like, sometimes you just gotta drop to your knees and let them know like, "Yo, you were hurting my feelings." Like you're at my feelings, you're like, like this is hurting me right now. - Well, they say to that. - Nothing, look, you dead in the eye and just be like, (laughing) and it's almost like they know they got you broken down. My generation, that hurt feelings, whatever was a weapon would have been grabbed in you. One of my favorite threats in the house is you would have not have survived in '90s. - That's what you say, yeah, yeah. - You would not have survived the '90s. My mom is here for the week. - Oh, that's, yeah. - I was watching, I was going through it yesterday with my seven-year-old and I'm just looking at her, like, "Yo, you don't wanna tap in." - Yo, that's not, you know what? You don't wanna enter, be my discipline mom. - Let's go. - Remember what used to happen to me? - It's amazing how soft they get with you. - Oh, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh, that's so funny. - My god. (laughing) - Nobody talks about-- - No teeth, no teeth, no teeth at all. - What did he do? - I mean, none. I used to get beat with extension cords. I could be on an aisle four of a grocery store, say a bad word, and she was like, fucking Mrs. Incredible with the reach. - Wow, yeah. - Whole of the aisle. What is up with that? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - They got soft, bro. They got soft. - He stopped the door. - And his grandparents got soft. - Did the beatings and spankings work? - I think so, bro. - Nah, nah, nah. - For boys. - I don't think so. - I don't think so. - You don't think so? - It worked on me. - It worked on me. Like a motherfucker. - I never got beat, though. I think I maybe got spanked, but I never got beat. - I got beat. - It's just with a spanking and a beat. - First of all, it's actually sick that we say spanking. We wanna spank the kids, but then you wanna spank some ass in the bedroom, too. That's just weird. - Yo, that's what I'm saying. - That is, it's like, do girls that like that, would they bag kids? (laughing) - No, no, I don't know if there's a correlation to those things. - I don't know. - Imagine a girl is like, "Yo, slap her ass like, "Oh, you run, naughty little girl." - Can you imagine? Yeah, that's wild. First of all, we gotta think about some of this shit. - Yeah. - You in the bedroom, you spanking ass. And she's calling you daddy. - That's what I'm saying, like shit. - Is it some weird, like, - Yes. - Childhood. - That's some issues. - That's some sick fucking shit, yeah. - And now that we're like good and like supportive and open communicators with our children. - Yes, man. - Will they never do that stuff? - It's sick. That's why you gotta tell, you know, you gotta talk to these girls, the way stepdaddy's talk to their stepkids. - Okay. - Their spank. - Help me understand. - I'm not your daddy. - You say, I'm not your daddy. - When it's called daddy, I'm not your fucking daddy. - Yeah, you try that. You don't sit. (all laughing) - I'm trying that shit. - But a girl for bed as well is like, thank you for my freedom, Poppy. (all laughing) Thank you for my freedom. (all laughing) Thank you all, you're a poppin'. Thank you for my freedom. (all laughing) - Oh man, we'll figure it out. - Um, what else? Oh, I went to the final four this weekend. - You were there. - I went to the final four, the women's final four, man. - Oh, ain't nobody care about that. - You got your goddamn mind. I keep telling y'all over and over. There's nothing better than women's basketball. Yes, over now, UCLA beat South Carolina in the national championship. - Oh, really? - But my favorite sports are women's basketball, women's college basketball, Dyn boxing, Dyn football, and Dyn women's professional basketball. - All right. - Those are my favorite sports. Those are the things that absolutely bring me the most joy. - All right, bro. - Those sports. And so I went to the final four and I feel so crazy that I never went to a final four. South Carolina had been the sixth final fours in a row, three national championship games in a row. And this is my first time going to one. - Who won? - And you as bad luck. - Do you see LA? No, we beat UConn. UConn was undefeated. UConn was on a 54 game win streak. - I lost the final. - And? - I was at the game Friday too, and we won. So we won Friday, lost the UConn. It was on a 54 game win streak. That's when Don Staley and Geno got into it and Don Staley told Geno, "I will beat your ass." - Okay, 'cause Geno was at like a little hoe. Oh, Don will take Geno. Don'll get take Geno. Straight up head to head, fist fight. Don Staley from North Philly. Well, how did Geno, Chris? - Oh, he's got to be the sixties. - Blake said no, early seventies. - But from Norristown, also from Philly. - Oh, that's from the outskirts. That ain't no offense. - Love North Philly. - Rough. - Geno was at like a little hoe though. I never seen Geno act like this. You got your ass beat, you lost, and then you come to Don at the end of the game and to say you didn't shake my hand in the beginning. What she did, he got a little seen out. We're starting to see these old people in leadership positions that have been there too long really getting seen out, yo. He accused South Carolina's players of Rippin Sarasprong's jersey. She ripped her own jersey. He accused Don Staley of not shaking his hand. She shook his hand. And then he accused the players of playing too rough and of Don Staley ranting and raven the referees. What coach doesn't rant to referees? - Yeah, it's kind of your job. - That's your fucking job. - Gotta allow me to refs, bro. You gotta do it. - Only to come back and apologize twice. He's done two apologies. - So good for him for apologizing at least. - You are. - You fuck up, you should apologize. Like clearly he fucked up here 'cause they got on video. That's the thing with the coaches, bro, and even the players. Stop acting like you didn't do shit. We have 70 different cameras in 4K filming the entire-- - At all times. - No, no, no, no, not 70. That's just what the game has. (laughing) - You've got 80,000 people hitting it from every mother fucking angle. I beat your ass, didn't even come from the professional ass. - That's Twitter. - That came from the stands. The stands caught Don Staley. I'll beat your ass. - I'll beat you, okay. - And they got lip readers now. - Oh my God, that was crazy. 'Cause we was all trying to figure out what the fuck happened. - Right. - In the women's basketball they got the lip reading. - They got the best lip readers. - Yo, women's basketball is the best, bro, I'm telling you. - You don't see the-- - I can't get it out. - I can get it out. - I was gonna call it a final four leg lock. - Man, shit. (laughing) - No, they're embracing it though. They got a whole crew, you know, WNB got a crew called the stun boys. (laughing) - I love this. - It is. - I love the stun boys. - They killed it the all-star week. - They love yo, they love them. They love girls. - There's three of them called the stun boys. - This is, this to me is fire. Lean into this shit. - Yeah. - It's not pretending. You know what I mean? You don't got the lipstick on the studs. Let them be studs. - And let them be studs. - No, I mean that. Like let them be studs and let the internet embrace it and love it. And like, let's not pretend it's not what it is. - Yeah, it's, it's the Minnesota Lynx players, Courtney Williams and Natasha Hyde, me. - Fire. - Right there.
And they they they started popping on twitching Instagram. They're literally called the stud buds. People look at look at the merch Denise Rob. Look at the merch play on my period Who you are What the fuck when you be who you are I didn't know studs got periods for a while I didn't know that I'll be honest. I didn't know I didn't know they got period. It's three of them. No, it's not just two of them I know that is them. It is them. It is them. It is them. Why what is that? And yo, by the way, I thought they got a chip or something Like you know how some girls can knock at their period for a while because they get birth control But I guess if you're a lesbian, there's no need for birth. Listen, I'm at the game And I'm I'm familiar with both of them But I didn't know that they had branded this whole thing called the stud buds So my my guy, but car and car goes yo look those the stud buds. I said yo, don't be disrespectful I'm like, yo, we have the women's game. No, you don't need to do all of that Yeah, and he's like no, that's their name is to him right there And I'm like the stud bud and I'm thinking he's fucking with me. So I look it up Yo, it's people in the stands. I y'all trying to get their attention. They fuck with them heavy. I need that shirt You see what I'm saying on my period I play on my period support women's sports. Yo, you should be able to gamble on that What do you mean? Like if you know with it You don't think they go more angry and oppressed like I'm putting money down on the team that's dripping, bro I don't think probably market god. No, they need it. They need it They need it. No, I'll probably market today. I'm a bet. What color the deal though was that he throw a cow's sheet No, it's two of them. It's probably market and cows. Yeah, but we rock them with cow's sheet, bro Do they ever bet remember when the dildos were hitting the floor at the women's games? Yeah, they bets about that Yeah, they were really what was the bet like what color it was or is one going to get thrown tonight? Yeah, who's going to strap it on first? Wow, wow, and it was one dude that Did the bet then went to the game through it made so much winner winner check it right there like the dildo market Dildo that's what it says no, but for I'm telling you a final five. I've never been the one that shit was so fun Yo, good energy. Oh my god. It's you got a thing. You're a Nick fan. Yeah And you live in New York, so you got Nick's you got Yankees. You got the meds. We have professional sport y'all got Professionals we don't really care about Amber. I'm from South Carolina. You guys got an ambitious. We don't have any Professionals sports team, right? I'm South Carolina. No, can I got the panties and the hornets and all of that? We don't have what now is the what's the Hornets Charlotte team now Charlotte a hornets. They want to block this new oil is on it Charlotte Bobcat But they back to the hornets. They back to the hornets. Oh, yeah, I'm all New Orleans went to the Pelican kids. Yeah, yeah, so right so I'm a cowboy fan. Hmm I didn't grow up rooting for anybody Don Stanley. Oh my god. The had to be at a championship game rooting for your team From your home state. What does she make? She's the highest paid woman's coach like I think she makes like 25 million a year. No, no, no for like three years or something like that I'm just saying like her program probably they can't pair enough. That's what I'm they can't pair enough I think her program is generating an obscene amount that they cannot pay her and not not I will say this There's not there's not the money. It should be why just because like NIL deals and stuff like that I they're making money but it could be a lot more than what I'm saying no For what she has done for that program and how popular that program is it's I can like to talk to my lady game cops They should be rolling and rolling in revenue It seems like that because like remember where Lebron was on the cabs and like they estimated that he generates like a billion dollars for the city And like yeah, there's a salary cap so you can't pay him over a certain thing like what is the what do they estimate? that Don Staley's Effect is on the local economy Insane yeah because they've had the highest attendance of in college sports Well at least women like basketball for like the last five years talking about just the college game I'm talking about all the restaurants yeah, they're absolutely around the bars. They're full after the game The people watching that aren't able to get tickets to the game like what happens to the local economy? Because of the team that she built and what I would say is college sports is so specifically different in that It's not really about the players because the players transition out so the coach is the person that is curating that Economic development in the city you could pay her It's it's though. I'll say this though. It's still not the same excitement as football only because it's it that you Can't different things. Yeah, I'm just saying like it would probably be justified for her to be making triple I think so I mean you got people who actually come to games because it don't still you know how like when Dianne Sanders Was at Jackson State in that Colorado like people pull up to the game. I bet the hotels are packed Yeah, like one of the sites comes you know plies pulls are like people come to the games You know what I mean, but if I'm her agent you can't pay done enough. That's the combo I'm having right now. I got a statue already But she deserves it how many three come on three and and and literally three we gone to three national championships in a row But she sees one three she had a golden opportunity for gender equality, man. She knocked out gene Let me tell you what you got you. No, not he would have got jump there. It was South Carolina was too Stud bud. By the way, we wouldn't even have had to listen none of us would have had to leave our seats like her her coaching staff Like no, no her coach is staff with a song on Geno like Kadeeja and Joe let like Kadeeja there's one video if you watch it to look the Kadeeja Kadeeja is out there Kadeeja got her hand behind her back like That is the symbolic That is the universal it's about to get yeah, yeah, yeah, when you laughing with your hammer. Yeah That mean I'm on whatever you want we can keep it peace. Oh, we can go to war however you want to do it the little Kadeeja sessions man What else happened this weekend A lot of people going to jail. Who tell me? I mean, I was looking at the push ice the Gucci man Oh, can you break down this story because this I don't really know the story. I just know that from what I was told Gucci man Who should I see wanted out of his contract and he allegedly? Kidnapped and robbed Gucci man and forced him to you know Sign away his release papers. I guess So let me ask you this question. Yes This is a very interesting like a stalemate there in because if Gucci allows the law and cooperates with the law to get the civilian justice that he deserves if this allegedly did happen wouldn't he be risking his own personal reputation who? Let's game fair. Let's game fair what you game fair, right? So so In order to monetize Poo's career Which he has him signed and he can make a lot of money. He would have to Take on a huge brand risk Because he's cooperating with the law and he's built his identity partially around Being somebody who's from the streets and would never cooperate and probably has done some You know, nefarious things in his life to gain the reputation that he has So in a way Poo puts him in a little bit of a pickle, right? It's like I'm gonna go do this If you cooperate, yeah, you can make money off me in the future But you might lose with some respect in the streets if you don't cooperate I'm free Yeah, you know, but the thing is I don't know I've heard that theory But I've also heard so many other theories. I heard that there's a video. Yeah There's a video right because wasn't with wasn't the FBI director wasn't he breaking that when he saw on a video The charging document outlines some of the evidence just some establishing the defendant's roles in the federal offense this is as follows Electronic monitoring data placing Williams Jr at the offense location Which would put him in violation of his home detention conditions Cell phone records and license plate reader data corroborating the coordinated travel of multiple defendants from Memphis, Tennessee two Dallas rental car records confirming William senior rented a vehicle that was used by the group surveillance footage From the offense location and nearby office supply store in a hotel where several the defendants stayed following the offense Fingerprint evidence as well that was recovered from the crime scene matching at least two of the defendants Social media post by defendants displaying what appears to be stolen property just in the days following the offense Greyhound bus records Confirming the travel of multiple defendants from Dallas to Memphis the day after the offense In this case came to Dallas to conduct the legitimate business and they were met with firearms and violence as alleged in the charging document So if there's video now now Gucci can be like I don't want to be involved in this. I don't see why you have to testify of this video, right? You get now he gets the best of both worlds, which is I'm not testifying. I'm not pressing charges But if there's video the state has to press charges and then the other the other shy city was uh, he had an ankle monitor And so he's already filed his proposal and then the other story I heard was that Gucci's Security guard was a off-duty police officer Oh, and so whether you knew it or not you up you up the fire or I'm on an off-duty police officer - What's the rules with hiring cops? - I'll give 'em.
- Oh, fuck. - I know, you don't. - I got one out there right now. - Yeah, but I know. (laughing) - I love it when you're here. - You don't care about that. - But like, what would the street code be about that? - Man, listen, I'm what you want, everything that you're saying, but I think at some point, fuck the street code. - I'm, listen, you know, yeah, I'm not in a street, so I'm always like, these guys are business men, man, and like, here's the thing. And this is all alleged. I don't know if Poo Shaisy did any of this, right? I'm just going off the stories I heard. I know that Poo Shaisy wouldn't do that to a white man. Well, whenever you hear these stories, it's literally always the black executives getting put in this position by black. - Well, let me ask you a question. - You'll never hear, well, name a white. - No, no, no, no, no, no. - What about black in the day? - Hold on, hold on. Let me hand, let me hand. - Good night, and who's the guy who did that? - With the ice, with the artist. Yeah, I need to talk about him, talk about the executive. Well, and the artist running down on the white executive. Well, the question I have is, 'cause we can't look at the, it's only happening to other black people, but is there security in that, knowing that he's not going to snitch, or he's not going to involve the authorities, right, because they have the same street code. Where is like, would Poo do it to, I don't even think, if this is true, I don't even think Poo was thinking like that. I think Poo was just literally a person, whose mentality is still that of the street. - The street. - So this is how I know how to handle situations. - But Poo would never do it to you because he knows that you're not going to buy the street code. So regardless. - I don't believe it. I don't believe he would. - Really? - No, I don't believe that at all. - I thought you were positing in a theory that it's black artists do it to black executives. They went to it to white executives. - I've never seen them do it to a white executive. - Well, white executives out here with the same contracts. Who do you think the black executives are learning it from? - Yeah. - By the way, I don't even know if his contract was bad. I'm just saying that there are standard recording contracts. - Mine. - You ain't never, I've heard stories of people running down on Andre Herrel. I've heard stories of people running, of course they're on Diddy. I've heard stories of people running down on Easy E. - But you ain't never heard stories. - I've five days got ran down on by. - But we're not going to keep it street. - It's my point. - Oh, I want to know. - I don't know. - We believe it, who? - Lisa left I Lopez apparently, she claims. - Lisa ran down my class? - Yeah. - But that's not, let's see what I'm saying. - I'm not saying it, that's not the thing. - What the crew? - Oh, she had guys with her. Oh, I'd never heard that story. Okay, well, shout out to Lisa. She didn't realize I'd all leave my father. The record company Clive Davis, we held them hostage like guns, the whole Chabain. - So of course, Lisa was the ringleader. So we went up there and held everybody hostage and Puffy was the one that snitched us out. Yo B, yo, your girls up here, man, bugging, yo. And I was like, why are you going to snitch us out though? But you called it? - Yeah, 'cause we kicked him out of the meeting. - No one ever ran down on like Leo Cole. - I've never heard these stories. - Well, why would you if you know that they're going to involve the law immediately? That's what I'm saying. If you're not running down on someone who you know is going to snitch because you're going to jail, you could run down on the street, dude, because there's the chance that he's going to operate with the street code. - No, but to Charlottes Point, they've done that to like, Steve's out and you know, he's not a street, dude, he's going to go through the law and they've still done it. - Yeah, really? - Yeah, see, I mean, Steve got busted. Did he bust the Steve upside the head with a bottle? 'Cause he wanted out of the hate me now video. My thing is this, this is the most important thing that you can buy when you get into business, or when you can invest your money in. A lawyer, get you a good entertainment lawyer. Number one, so you don't sign a bad contract. And number two, when situations like this do arise, then you have your lawyer get you out of said situation or help you get out of said situation. Never in the history of life for anybody of any color will this work out. If you run down on somebody and say, I'm going to rob them and kidnap them and make them under the rest, let me out of my deal that is not going to end well for you, buddy. I don't give a fuck. It's not going to end well. This is just a case of somebody who just didn't understand business. And the reason I know that Gucci understood business, 'cause Gucci didn't go down on those streets, shit. Gucci thought that clearly they were having a meeting about some business. And then the other side allegedly decided to turn that into some other shit. I wouldn't be mad at if Gucci went and told, but I just think it's stupid to still abide by those rules. - I agree. - When you're not, you're so far removed from it. - If you're a law buying a citizen, it'll protect you. - If you're not a law buying a citizen, you can't use the rules because you can't be protected from the things you're doing which are breaking the law. - They still want Gucci. They want, and this is when you know people just want to see crash outs. They want to hear a story about Gucci allegedly almost getting robbed and then pulling out a chopper and spraying down everybody. That's what would make everybody believe the allure that the story of the boogie man Gucci. - Hasn't he proved himself? - Yes, and he's also proved that he wants to evolve. Go read his last book episodes. This man has evolved on purpose. This man has grown and evolved intentionally. - No, that's the clone, that's the clone. - Yeah, even if that pisses me off. Whenever a person decides to grow and evolve, now they're a clone. What's Ross saying? What did Ross say? - My DM was at what you think, how you feel about the Go Out Poo Shasty situation. I don't like it for either side. Tell my Go Out most definitely didn't deserve that and I don't want to see this for the law homie Poo Shasty, but this one nigga's got to be educated and understand. - And you got to negotiate my name. You got to negotiate if you were signed for 100K and now you got 10 of them on the table, it's time to negotiate. That's how we do this, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Everybody win, let's go. That's how I got to go, my name. You can't muzzle your way out of no shit in no business and go that way. And I ain't just talking about on the people's side, but on the other side, the blitz going come. You can't run from me. - It's a good point. - So when you have leverage, when you have leverage, like I guess Poo does have, you can renegotiate your contract. - That's it, see, we see a basketball, NFL players do this all the time, right? They're like, hey, if you want to extend me past my rookie contract, like let's do this right, I actually don't know if they do it around the rookie deal, but like there are contract negotiations when you have unbelievable leverage because you don't want to, you know, miss out on that opportunity as the owner of it. - Either renegotiate or just fulfill your contract and go on about it. - How many more albums does he have? - It might be like a lifetime of albums. - I mean, if it's a, I mean, damn, if it's a lifetime, and that's the reddit with the time. - But we know that these deals are incredibly parasitic. Like these music deals are like, yeah. - Unbelievable. - But I understand why. And I'll tell you what I mean by that. If I'm taking you from nothing, and I'm investing in you, and I don't know who knows how much Gucci Man invested in Poo Shisee initially. You don't know if you're ever, and I'm just gonna throw a number out there. Well, let's just say the investment is $500, $500,000, $1 million. I don't know if I'm gonna make this money back. So I have to create a contract that at least allows me to get this one million back, but like Ross said, if this guy doesn't up taking off of this girl, doesn't up taking off, and you make your initial investment back, the right thing to do is renegotiate. - So if I was to make your argument, if I was to take your argument, what I would say is, these record labels, they invest that $500,000 in 20 different artists. 19 of them, they don't recoup, so that one that does hit, they really need to recoup $10 million from that one before they can renegotiate in their head as a business, right? 'Cause they're like, I already lost $9,500,000 on these other fucking 19 artists. I'm finally gonna get a chance to recoup right here, and that's probably why the contracts are so predatory. That being said, if you're the artist and you're in this contract where you're making peanuts, but you know how much you're generating, it's very difficult. It's very difficult for them to sit in that. - Yeah, absolutely, but I believe if you're a good executive, yes, you have a contract that protects you. But if that person hits, the smart thing to do is renegotiate. So you avoid shit like this, when I say shit like this, I don't mean fucking getting robbed in Vietnam. I'm just talking about a artist hating you. I don't want nobody to hate me for bad business 'cause also, man, yo, if you've already made your money and then some-- - Let's make money together. - Let's make money to fucking gather. - It's been years. - Yes. That's why sometimes I'll be hearing these stories about guys when they sign certain artists. It's like, yo, for me, if I sign a certain artist, you know, why not just start a label together? - So that's, especially if both of y'all are just starting out, like if you're a new guy, new executive, new manager, you got this hot new artist and y'all decided to come together and do business, start a label with this person. Instead of you starting a label with sign in them as an artist. - So what they do is they basically say, yeah, let's start a label and then they go, you can give predatory contracts out to all your artists too. So yeah, I'm taking advantage of you, but you could take advantage of them. And then when you don't fulfill your contract, the way that these contracts allegedly work is that all of their talent rolls up to you because they haven't fulfilled their contract. - And all the reason I know this is 'cause some do try to pitch me doing this comedians. And I was like, I would never do this to comedians. - No, 'cause yeah, I would love to help comedians. I love to put them on. I love to find vehicles where they could find success and build their own careers. But I do not want some predatory contracts where like these people are all signed and then like essentially owned by you in perpetuity. - That's why I know for a fact, I'm too fair. Don't you sleep?
- That's better. - It's better and I'm mature. Listen, I'm mature, but also I'm a talent. So I understand what talent need. But I'm telling you that there's other executives that tell me I'm too fair. 'Cause no, you said the predatory, you know what I mean? And I'm not even gonna say, yes, it's some of the predatory, absolutely. But some of it is literally just, I'm going to make sure we're in the best possible outcome for us. - Sure. - You know what I mean? It's when both parties feel like tops and bottom. - When you get in fuck little, you go to the fucking. - Yeah. - When you, that's the best type of negotiation when both parties feel like, whoa, shit, that was a tough one. Or like for real? - Or both parties feel like they want. - Like the best. - Best contract. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Is the other side is like, yeah, we got one over on them. - Yeah. - And you're also like, man, that was advantageous to us. So now everybody stokes. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's just rare. - That this isn't the way y'all. - Yeah. - And by the way, this is another lesson to kids. Kids don't really like to fulfill their obligations anymore. - Ta-da. - Like they really don't, this generation does not like- - They're not about it. - The list of obligations, like they don't, they believe that shit don't mean nothing. - Yeah. - Man, this has always happened. There's not some new shit there. - Yeah, and it happens when people are kids, but it's even worse now. 'Cause I don't even know what pushites these deal was. - Well, but did you see who was arrested with them to bring it back to parenting? - Oh my God, the dad. - That was very hard. - That was interesting. - Yeah, I didn't understand that logic at all. - He was, his dad went with him. 'Cause I'm sure like in this head, he's like, I'm protecting my kids. It sucks, but I, and maybe in his head, he's like, this is what I gotta do. I gotta protect my kids. - They said he called up like eight people from Memphis, his dad, it was another artist, big third. He called everybody but a lawyer. - Should've called that lawyer. - All the money that you spend getting all of those people to wherever y'all was at to do this to Gucci man, you could've just hired a good entertainment lawyer, bro. And furthermore, before you even hired a lawyer, did y'all even try having a conversation with Gucci? And the conversation can't be, you're gonna let me out this contract or else. The conversation has to be what Ross said. - That's it. - The goal. - That's it. - She A. Shun. - How do you negotiate? - This shit is just sad, man. I'm just tired of watching people, you know, who have great opportunities to just excel in life, crash the fuck out. And I don't know if they're crashing out simply because they're just ridiculous, terrible humans. Are they truly think this is the only way they know how to do something? Like it's almost like, he didn't know he had other options. 'Cause when I see stories like this, I'm like, well, what was playing B, you know what I'm saying? Was this playing A? - What was the crazy shit that you went? No, we can't do this. - Exactly, you know what I'm saying? - This couldn't have been playing A, wasn't it? Was this playing A? - Yes. - This couldn't have been playing it. So what was the other plans? And did every single plan involved somebody potentially getting hurt, including yourself? - Maybe. - Whoa, you need better people in the room, bro. - Tell me what the latest is with an offset, man. I heard you got shot. I heard you shit, too. I heard you got shot in front of a casino. I don't know what, and then somehow little TJs involved. I don't know what the fuck is going on. I have no idea. - TJ, what's up? - What's up? - What about your fight at the casino? - Fight, ooh. - Rapper, little TJ, bonded out of jail Tuesday. He's charged with disorderly conduct, accused of instigating a fight outside of the Hard Rock Hotel in Casino Monday night against another group of guys. - Seminole police officers say the incident happened just after 7 p.m. by the valet area. TMZ got these pictures of rapper offset getting into an ambulance after he was shot. Before that, according to TMZ, he was spotted taking a picture with a fan. According to the affidavit, authorities say little TJ directed members of his party to start a fight. It goes on to say one of the males associated with the defendant pulled up fire arm and discharged it. Wonding, one of the individuals. - Acts of say. - Little TJ has his own version of what went down outside the hotel in Casino. - It was awesome. Looking at me like this. You have nothing to stop me. Can I just stop me? - To be clear, he has not been charged with the shooting. - La, la, la, right. - Seminole police officers say the second person who was detained has not been charged nor have they released any information on that person. We know officers are looking at trying to identify at least one or more people who may have been involved in Monday's incident. Offset was a member of Migos, but the rap trio disbanded. After his cousin takeoff was shot and killed in 2022. Offset was also married to Cardi B. They have three children together. He was taken to Memorial Regional Hospital where told he's expected to be okay. - Another one where it's just like, guys, come on. This is gonna be way more expensive than you think. - It's gonna be way more expensive than whatever the person owed you. - Way more. - You understand what I'm saying? Like, I don't know it now. Listen, I don't know if Offset got shot because he owed the debt. I don't know the what the situation was. But if that is what the story is, whoever shot him, whatever Offset owed you, you're going to pay 10 times that, trying to beat this case. Yo, the casino might sue him. You shot somebody on the ground of the Hard Rock Casino in Orlando, Florida. They may sue you. - For Florida. - For Florida, they might sue you because I'm sure you slowed business down for them. I'm sure they had to shut everything down and probably locked everything down while all of this was happening. - Absolutely, they probably lost millions on just man. - Gambling right there. - You see what I'm saying? - Yeah. - Like future earnings. - Future earnings, yes. And, man, listen. They said they arrested Lil Tijay. Why did they arrest Lil Tijay? In connection with a fight before the incident, that since released him on bond, listen, I don't know man. All this shit do is make me realize, I don't even want to see rappers let's stay on "Buffer's Club." (laughing) - That's something I, I think, yeah, if I'm looking to, if I'm someplace and there's one too many rappers around, I'm probably in the wrong place. - Got it there. - Depending who the rappers are. - You want mature rappers. You want rappers in their 40s. - Yes, I'm an adult rapper. I'm an adult radio personality. I want to be around adult contemporary hip-hop artists. - I get it. - Okay. - I get it. - That's what the fuck I want to be around. I don't want to be around. None of this shit like this. I wasn't the casino this weekend in Phoenix. Ain't none of this shit happened. But you know what? What's in no rappers around? (laughing) You said it. - Stop it, man. - It wasn't no rappers around. What? This is a bad weekend for rappers. - This was a bad weekend for rappers. - All right. - This is just sucks. - And this is a bad weekend for rappers. But by the way, it's the younger rappers. Let's keep that in mind too. - Yeah. - All right. And ain't the older rappers. - Oh, man. - He's selling out stadiums. - He's not so young. - Well, he's the victim here, Chris. - That's a good point. - He's a shot. - He got shot. - Okay. Like the offset of the victim in this situation. - Tell me about the yay concert. You were there. I wasn't at no yay concert. I am not interested in going to a Kanye West concert. This Kanye situation is interesting though. - Tell me. - Because I didn't know he was back with Live Nation. - Oh. - Am I making this up? Somebody told me that this weekend, that Kanye West is back with Live Nation. Is that true? - I find that hard to believe. - I thought so too. But did somebody tell me that this is a concert? Is it possible that he still owes them money on a touring concert? - I would think so because his last situation, he left him on the hook $400 million. Remember Jay-Z got him back in the groove and he was, I think, rock nation, a live nation, fronted him $100 million for a tour and he never finished that tour. - Cool. There's a version if he didn't pay that money back. They're like, "No, we need a recoup still, buddy. We need a recoup." - It's interesting that wireless festival dropped him. It's interesting that all the sponsors dropped him because all the sponsors had to know who was headline. They don't do that. That's not the way these festivals work. These festivals let the sponsors know who's headlining and then the sponsors come on board. - Even in a established festival that you already know that you have to book out the venues way ahead of them. - I would think so. - I don't think so. - Things like Coachella, some of the acts get booked really close to the date. - Yeah, I think that's possible the sponsors though. - But the sponsors are always on deck, unless this is a multi-year sponsorship where Pepsi was already signed up to sponsor wireless for five years. - It could be. - If every year they're bringing in new sponsors, which is usually the case, even if it's the same person, they're still trying to get new sponsors, they usually let the sponsors know. And the sponsors themselves, the brand safety people for the sponsors don't just say, "Yeah, we're gonna sponsor you and you book whoever." That's not how that shit works. - I think it is how it works. - No. - I think some of these shows get so big where just like, "All right, I'm sponsoring this show 'cause I know how big this show is." Like, some of these shows are just so big. You know there's gonna be big acts. - Google did Pepsi know Kanye was the headline. They had to know. There's no way. - Then why pull out. - Bad press. - But backlash maybe? - They would already know that that's gonna happen. - They would've did it beforehand.
you could chat, you could see. - But maybe they didn't, but maybe they didn't know. Here's the reason why. If you just watch Kanye sell out these two spots in Los Angeles, right? And you see all of these people coming up with watch Kanye was, if you're a Pepsi, you're like, yo, let's see. Maybe he's back. - Oh. - Maybe it won't be no issue. You know, let's see Pepsi pulled this partnership of a London Music Festival after the Festival revealed. Kanye wasn't this headline. And Pepsi withdrew his sponsorship of a wireless festival following the announcement by a diagnosed rapper Kanye West 48 with a headlining event. Pepsi decided to withdraw his sponsorship of a wireless festival. The brand was the headline partner of the festival, which would take place from July 10th to July 12th in London, with West headlining all three nights. Other sponsors including PayPal and drink brand Diagio have also pulled out of sponsoring the event following the announcement. Representation for Diagio cannot be immediately reached for comment. The sponsorship poll came after Prime Minister Keith Stammer publicly criticized the headlining, so that's what happened. - Oh. - That's what happened. - It is deeply concerning Kanye, it wasn't been booked to perform at wireless despite his previous anti-segmented pre-marital celebration of Naziism. And that's what happened. - Prime Minister says. - The Prime Minister says so. - Well, you know what I think, that's what happened. - Lots of them from even coming to the country. - Yeah, after the fact, yep. - Yep. - Wow. - That's crazy. - I mean, is it? What's crazy? - He's not convicted of any crime. He's just. - Man, it's not shut the fuck up. - No, but I'm just saying. - I'm so sick of y'all not convicted of crime people. - What's your name? - Well, it's not about being convicted of crime. Andrew, if somebody came in here and took a, listen, if somebody came in this studio, it took a shit on the Flagrid Studios, and then grabbed this shit and started throwing it at all to see a staff and throwing it at Alex and everybody else, would you ever let that motherfucker back in here? - But that's all. - Huh? - That's a soul. - It don't matter, the person did something to offend you. All right, fuck the shit in the throwing it. If somebody came in right now and said, fuck you, Andrew, suck my dick, you pussy on, fuck with you, a piece of shit, blah, blah, blah. This is that, whatever, whatever. All right, let me get the fuck out of my studio. - Yeah. - Which, your own WTF, if somebody came in there, you and fuck you, Alex, you piece of shit, fuck you in your trash ass studio, you ain't shit, then got on social media and disparage WTF, fuck WTF, they, shit, they, they, they, they, pieces of shit over there, don't nobody go over there and support them. Would you ever let that person back in your studio? - No, I wouldn't. - Oh, get in. So what are we talking about? - Another, another thing out the way that you could frame it is, like how many British people lost their family members fighting against Nazis, like so if, if you're welcoming and headlining a festival in a country where hundreds of thousands of people were murdered, you know, women and children, bombed, like, you know, dads, brothers, uncles, grandfathers, killed at war, and now all of a sudden this guy has had like, I would imagine Britain might have a little bit, now we fought the Nazis too, but they weren't fucking, what is it called? What is that bomb shit that they were doing in Britain? - They had the blitzkrieg. - The blitzkrieg. - They had, they had de-knot suffocation. - Right, right. - But there's also the strange history of British rock stars in the aftermath of that, the '70s and the '80s. - So the punk movement, they were kind of embracing the Nazi attire as a rebellious act. - David Bowie, also. - Also got the prince, whatever his face, Harry dressed up as a Nazi. - Assess. - Or an SS soldier in the Halloween. So it is a slippery slope. It's like the prince can dress up as a Nazi for a Halloween party. But when Kanye is spouting the Nazi propaganda and saying he loves Hitler and he's doing all this anti-Semitic shit, he can't perform at the wireless festival. - Nope. - And he did apologize? - Not trying to make the case for him. 'Cause I don't fuck with him, but I'm just saying, he did apologize. He tried to write the wrong that he did. - I don't, I hear the thing. Whenever you offend somebody, I tell people this shit all the time. This is why free speech is not free. There is a price. - He sold swastikers shirt. - Yes. - It's a rental. - It's like. - There is a price to every word that comes out of your mouth. So if he says something that makes people not wanna fuck with him and they got the power to be like, nah, we don't want you here. - Right. - Nah, we don't want you there. That's on him. - Right. - I was shocked that he was able to get so far stadium to agree. Like, I'm so curious what that's about. - Money talk. - Money talk. - Yeah. - I saw black people saying this week, I saw black people saying why are black people being so forgiving of Kanye? Wearing the white lives matter shirt, you know, talking down on George Floyd and Austin black lives matter. I mean, listen, black people are something black. I'm not gonna say all black people. Some black people are forgiving people. And people just love Kanye West. And by the way, it wasn't like it was just black people at the so far stadium. But when I saw that question, I thought that was a good question that might need to be answered by somebody. Like, 'cause you haven't made no apologies to black people. - Don't you think there's a sense now that whatever he says is just for shocked value. And there's not a lot of deep sentiment under it. - He's a provocateur. - It's almost got like a Trump being kind of vived to it where he's just gonna say whatever, right? - So Chris, you don't accept that from Trump. - Exactly. - Because the stakes are higher with Trump. Kanye doesn't affect me. I don't give a shit. - That's not true. The ADL said that his rhetoric increased anti-Semitism by a huge number. I don't know if that's true or not. - That's like out the window now. That's all far down on the list of concerns. Like, I mean, I think it's very interesting. If you had told me five years ago, a major artist could release a song called "Hile Hitler." And that wasn't the end of their career. I would have said no way, but here we are. - Listen, all I'm simply saying is this. Everybody deserves grace, right? But I'm also not in the business of telling people that were offended what they should and shouldn't be doing. Because I know if you offend me, it's fuck you for hell. They're starting people out there right now that have done things to me that I know I'm never fucking with this individual ever. - Yep, ever. - But do you make a distinction for an artist? 'Cause I think that's the key kind of point of this, right? Like, we all have certain artists that we appreciate their art, but we don't agree with them as people. And are you able to make a distinction? Is "Hile Hitler" art? - I don't think any way. - No, it's not. - No, I think like, can you enjoy the music before he went? - You haven't said "Hile Hitler"? - No, no, he said before. - Of course, y'all know. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Before we dig out through a Nazi stage, like that's real. - Y'all are missing the point, though. If I own these venues, if I'm the prime minister of a country, and I don't want you here, because you have offended me and my people, you ain't coming here. - Well, cool with that, too. - But that's my point. There's nothing to do with that. - But I think he should still be able to say it, and then just live with whatever the consequences, yeah. - Either the consequences. - I think Australia said that Candace Owens couldn't come. - Yes, yes. - But you would be okay with that. Like, say if you said something on the radio that offended the prime minister that you get, and you feel, "Hey, I have freedom to speech. I can voice my, whatever I want to voice." You would think it's okay for them to not let you win. - What makes you feel good? - I'm probably can't perform in China. - Listen, I'm being dead serious. Like, I probably can't perform stand-up comedy in China. - Yeah, me neither. - Can I go there? - I would. - Maybe, but yeah. My free speech wasn't intruding on. - Yeah, you were able to speak. - I was able to say what the fuck I wanted to say, but there's not freedom of consciousness. - Also, they don't have free speech in it. That's, free speech is only in America. In Canada, they have freedom of expression, but they don't have freedom of speech. Like, you could dance it or whatever. - Really? - No, I don't know. But like, there's different limitations. - It's a different one. - Well, I think they have stricter libel laws than the U.S. - So it's like, this is a specifically American thing, and I think they were kind of projecting on the rest of the world, like, "Yo, don't you believe in this, "your Western democracy, yada, yada." But like, they don't. They got different viewpoints on things. And low-key, like, America, we've kicked people out for their viewpoints, right? Like, wasn't the Trump administration kicking people out? Is there like, "Yo, you support Gaza or you support?" - Yeah, one point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So it's like, there is this feeling, like, if you don't get along with whatever the status quo is, now I feel like the status quo is supporting the atrocities of having a Gaza. But like, the powers that be, don't feel like it. - You know what the problem is? People really think that there's no consequence to consider actions, 'cause it is shit right here. Y'all think that y'all can get on, because you've never been punched in the face, because you've never been fired, because nothing has ever happened to you, you think that you can just get online and talk and say whatever you want, and not have to deal with it. Then when you get beat up or shot or they don't want you in their country or they don't want you in their venues, now all of a sudden it's like, "I should be able to say what I want." Who the fuck told you that? - Yeah. - And I think people also might feel that way, because when you see Kanye perform like he does, and then he can go to so far, I still get live nation back, still sell it out two times. It's like, "Hey, you know what?" - Maybe you can. - He can. - No, maybe you can get some of the people, some of the times. But you're not gonna get all of the people. And that's part of dealing with the consequences of your mind. - I'm having worse. - I've had venues cancel on me for far less. - Yeah. - I had venues cancel on me, because I said COVID came from China, but it did. - They ain't apologize. (laughs) - You know what I mean? Literally, it's named after the lab that it came from. - Boy, boy, boy, boy, boy, boy, boy, boy. - I know, but in that time eventually made decision, I can't do nothing about that. then you can do about it.
- It's a private venue. - So what do you do moving forward? You either say what the fuck you wanna say, or, or, you watch what you say, because you want to reach a broader audience. - There are other places he could perform in Iran right now. (laughing) He would sell out everything in Iran. Lebanon, you could sell out anywhere in the Middle East. Then listen to that Kanye song on full volume. By the way, Kanye is a person who never really had to deal with consequences until now. These last few years, you're watching Kanye what's happened to deal with the consequences of his words and actions. And that's his battle to fight. He gotta go through that. He know what he said, he know what he did. He know who he said it to. He know who he did it to. So he gotta eat that. - So we get to see how important it is for him to be free and say what he wants. Is it more valuable than money or is it not? - And that's the craziest part about the Kanye West situation. What did he actually say? There's nothing he said that was of value. There's nothing he said that was thought provoking. Like nothing. It's not like he actually made a stand. - That's always called that. It's not like he actually made a stand and said something that really like, oh man, you know what, he's got a point. And that actually was a good point. And it's wrong that he's being punished for that good point. He was, he, no, that never happened. - Yeah, he was just repeating a lot of the bad conspiracies that people say are lying. It was bullshit and it fucked up. And now, yeah, you know. - The guy made a song called Hell Hitler didn't say he didn't want nobody to listen to it. The merch with the swastik is crazy. - Y'all cruised the file of Russell Wayboy and Y'all did come, you know what I'm saying? Like y'all cruised the file. Him for saying even Hitler was heaven sent. Kanye gave y'all Hell Hitler. - Yeah, but like. - God, I'm trying. - Russell ain't give us runaway man. - That's what it was all about, to runaway. - By the way, now can we talk about that now? Let's talk about that. Let's talk about people, let's talk about powerful music as well. - Not even just music. Some people's art was so historically good. - You're right about it. - And did something to us emotionally that you ain't letting that shit go. - How many people can get away with murder literally? 'Cause there are. How many? Who are the people? I mean, everybody. If you've made a classic anything, a classic anything and people have an emotional investment to you, especially during your formative years, it's hard to let that person go. It's hard to let that person go. It's also like a scientific thing. It's not even really in your control. There are studies that show around the age of 15, 60, 17, the music that you listen to the most at that period kind of gets embedded in your brain home, and you're kind of attached to it emotionally for the rest of your life. - And that's the thing. It's not even that you're attached to the artist or Chris' point. I just think you're attached to whatever you was doing during that time. - Yeah. - Whatever you felt during that time is what you're attached to. - Yeah. - And even if somebody like Kanye West or whoever it is, goes down in flames, you're still thinking about that moment in time. You can't let it go. This music will always bring you back there. - So it is kind of selfish in that way. It's like you're really protecting the way you felt. You're not really protecting the guy. - That's true. - That guy just makes you feel the way, and you don't want to not feel that way when you hear this music again. So you're like, well, he must not be that bad because I want to keep feeling this way. - And that's right. - And things like concerts take you right back to that place. - Yep. - That's why all of these concerts with all these older artists hit so hard. - The stout of the set. man, man, so go pick up what's in your hall, a memoir available everywhere you buy books now, and go get his audio book, he read his own audio book as well. So I'm waiting to see, you know. - That is a cool experience, but I think that this generation will probably take for granted. - Talk to me. - Is-- - Monoculture? - No, not Monoculture. Monoculture is interesting, I think, but like, the fact that you get to read somebody's autobiography, sorry, that you get to indulge in someone's autobiography and hear their voice. - Oh, yeah. - They are telling you the story that happened to them. Like, we never had that luxury growing up, right? Like, maybe someone read an excerpt of it at Barnes & Noble. - I don't remember no audio books when I was growing up. - Well, no, there wasn't audio books, but meaning like, you could have gone to like a book, one of those things that you do. - A book reading. - Yeah, a book reading. You hear a chapter or whatever, and they're talking about your life. But you, I remember listening to your book. I think it was your first one, and I was at some hotel 'cause I was doing shows that weekend. And I was like, oh, this is such a cool experience 'cause I'm hearing Charlemagne tell these stories. And yeah, I'm trying to think of like, imagine the fucking autobiographies that we read growing up. - It was a big deal when I read my book. - You know, so funny you bring that up. There's a lot of books that don't have audio because of that. 'Cause it came out in the time when it was no audio. - So it's like, who's gonna read? - Yep. - Fucking George Washington's autobiography. - The autobiography of Malcolm X, just got audio a few years ago. - And who did the voice? - Lawrence Fitzgera. - And does, so that's the other thing you do. Like, would you rather get an impressionist to do the voice of Malcolm X? Or would you rather have somebody that was like a steam, read it? - You know what it's gonna be going forward. - It's gonna be a-i, I don't believe it. - Absolutely. - Absolutely. Jake Paul wants to do blackface. Andrew's all for it. - You could do whatever you want. - Jake Paul's feelings are hurt because of the Drusky skin. Let's hear this audio. Wait, why did you say I'm for it? - Over the- - 'Cause you're in joke. - Over the last couple of days. Calling makeup artists, and I was gonna do a response to this and like go and do like the fool on darker. - Yeah. - And do it and just do it back because why not? - Yeah. - Like are we on the same plain field? Like, I think if there's a way to do it, oh, singing in while there's even the sentence, but if there's a way to do it, I've been here many times. If there's a way to do it, I think, yeah. I think there needs to be some black support for the character, I think. Like I'm saying, say if Drusky or I'm trying to think of somebody else, Charles Barkley. - Charles Barkley. If you got one of those guys to be like, hey, the only thing I want you to do this with me, let's do this. - But still, that's pushing out. - You think it is? - Yeah. - To me, there's a level of like that doesn't that make us, more like prejudices. - Oh, like more prejudices? That makes us, if we have to partner with someone, Drusky just dropped this and he's done it a couple of times, actually, I fucking love it. This is great. This is how humans should be. - I agree. - We should fucking make fun of each other. And I don't see in color, I see in truth and comedy. So like, what are we talking about? - So you're saying? - What are we living in? - I never even heard the clip, but I just saw the headline. - Oh, oh. - No, I just saw the headline. That last part, what he said is exactly how I feel. And the reason I feel like that is 'cause I'm born in 1970, fucking eight. - There we go. - Okay, I grew up in an era where men wore dresses in the guys of comedy, men pretended to be gay in the guys of comedy, men pretended to be white under the guys of comedy, we had white comedians pretended to be black under the guys of comedy. That's it, like my feelings never got hurt over any of that shit. - Yeah. - Like when I saw Robert De Niro and Tropic Tundra, I didn't get my feelings hurt. - Like Howard Stern. - When I saw Howard Stern, no Howard Stern was a bit wild. - Howard be wild, go back to March 6th. - Howard was wild. - Yeah, Howard. - You know why Howard was wild? 'Cause he was actually doing blackface. - Yep. - Like he was actually doing the blackface that Danes to do, this is how far we move. - Minstrel show. - That was wild. - That was wild. - All right, so this is how far we move we are from like what blackface is. I think like a lot of Gen Z that's watching this, they actually don't know what blackface is. - Let's give them the actual definition. - So there was a time in history where they wouldn't even let black people play the incredibly racist caricatures that were made of them in cinema. What does it aim as an Andy or something like that is one of the Amos and Andy and it wasn't just to make up. - No, no, no, so they would take on these, what they call it, stereotypical character. - It was called the Sambo character. - Yes, yes. - And what they would do is they'd paint on these incredibly stereotypical lips and all this stuff. And like they could create them with lazy, ignorant, you know, so like, so the idea of blackface wasn't simply, which is probably what Gen Z thinks is just painting your face, the color of black people. - No. - It is purposely antagonistic and insulting black people. - Mocking black people. - Now we can mock people and insult people of different races like I made a career of it. But it doesn't mean that this is a different thing. And the reason why I'm trying to say that like Gen Z doesn't really understand what it is is because when we've seen a Robert De Niro, not a Robert De Niro, Robert, what's his name? - Robert, Robert, Robert Jr. - Robert Downey Jr. - Yes, I understand. - You've seen other characters kind of do this in different things. It doesn't get this big negative reaction because it's not the menstrual show that it was portrayed before. Now, actually, if it didn't be a black word. - Right, so then the things have gotten muddied. - Oh, Jimmy Kimmel, when you need to call him alone. - Exactly, exactly. He's not even being black people. He's being Karl Malone. - Karl Malone, right? - Now the things have gotten muddied and there's young people who are just like any time you paint your face black, that is blackface, which is not. And therefore it's insulting a racist and hateful and all these other things. So there's just a lot of like information that doesn't kind of, people aren't sharing the same information. - We're using words that we probably shouldn't be using. - Don't know the actual definition of this. I think what Jake said at the end is what you were saying. What, this is kind of what we all want. We want to make fun of each other. We want to tease each other. We want to be able to insult each other in a way where like it can be appreciated. And the best version of it is you see a guy doing it and he maybe is not part of your culture, but you see him noticing certain things about your culture and you're like, ooh, that was fucking cool right there. That was great. I want you to get mad at me because I pretended to imitate you and you were offended by it because of how I was imitating you. Like when Mike Tyson walked up on Ken and Arby Wayne and they say in a club, he didn't like the way Ken and Arby Wayne's portrayed him. But if it's something that's actually funny, I think it's a little bit different. I rather you just be mad at me for what? - The problem with this is that if he does exactly what Druski did, Druski said, hey, this is conservative women in America. So now if Jake does, hey, this is black betta-da in America, that is the definition. And then he portrays them in a silly dumb manner. - If he portrays the definition. - If he portrays them, if he pretends to be sexy red, - And does that. - That's gonna be a problem. - Well, well, if his idea of black women in America, and I'm not saying this is a not sexy red, I'm just telling you what the optics would be. If he said I'm portraying black women in America, and if sexy red are all, you know, different rapper women, it might be an issue. But what if, what if he was straight, by the way? - I'll go, I'll go. - I'm just giving him what I did. - I know. - 'Cause I wanna see if he's stupid enough to do it. What if he pretends to be a shallow bum? - Powerful, strong, well-spoken. - Or what if he was like in charge? - So Druski did conservative, - No, it would be. - Druski did conservative white women. - Yep. - Right? - No, conservative women in America. He never said white women. - Sorry, sorry, conservative women in America. If Jake did progressive black people in America, and then dressed in like kind of imitated Don Lemon, are people that upset it? If it's based on a specific person, like clearly Druski was talking about. - He should say Don Lemon be like this. - Well, no, I thought what was smart about Druski's thing is that like we all knew who he was talking about, but he didn't say that. - Did we know? I know you're doing this thing where it's like, it was that other big girl. - That she was the one. - Sure, but the staring was Erica. - Sarah was Erica, that was her. - So that maybe it doesn't have to just be Don Lemon, it could be another version of that. But like, then I think he has a little bit more protection because it's target. It's not going like here's this uniform stereotype about black people, and I'm insulting it. It goes here are these black people that we know, and I'm teasing that. You're right, if he does do the ghetto trope, then people are gonna get upset about it. But he doesn't do the ghetto trope. People still be upset. - 'Cause people gonna be upset. But if he doesn't do the ghetto trope, I think there's more protection at because he's actually doing impression kind of of individuals in the same way that Kimmel did, Carm alone, and that wasn't a reflection of all black people's reflection on a car. - Well, now it's not going to work. First of all, it never would work anyway, but it's definitely not going to work now because the headline, Jake Paul says, he's going to do black face in retaliation essentially to Druski's skin. That's the-
headline. I didn't even hear what the fuck he said when he was like, "Yo, I thought he was actually offended." And he just wanted to give it back. No, he said, "I love it. This is awesome." But I don't know much about him. Is he a comedian? No. So then why is he doing it? Well, he's a provocateur. Okay. So maybe he sees it as a. I mean, there's no. By the way, there's no way for him to work. Jake Paul. There's no way to work. All I'm simply saying is, I grew up in an area. I got a way. I got a way it works. I'm just saying. Can I go? Uh, uh, uh, black boxers from Britain be like. And he dresses up as Anthony Joshua knocking out Jake Paul. Depends on how he acts. Depends on how he acts as Anthony. Biggified or like super Nigerian or whatever the fuck you want like he acts as Anthony. Right? And he's the butt of the joke in a way because he's getting knocked out by this guy after he's talking shit. There is a way to get away with it. As opposed to doing Cory Bush and he's leans into. Yeah, don't do nothing for literally Cory. Who's Cory Bush? A female politician. Politics. Who's Cory Bush, St. Louis? Yeah, don't do nothing for political. And don't put black in the title because Drusky didn't say white conservative women. He just said conservative women. Oh, good point. British boxers be like. Yeah. Yeah. That is true. But don't do it. Because there's still a history with black face. Do not do it. Yeah, don't do it. But I will say. I agree, Jake. Don't do it. But all I'm simply saying is, I grew up in an era where people were absolutely positively made fun of everything. In living color, ran the gamut. And it was. Yeah. Martin Lawrence. And this is the other. Martin Lawrence, Jamie Foxx. They could dress up as women. Do scenes with men. Would they act like they'd trying to fuck the guy? Nobody ever was like, "Martin, you gay." Martin, you were sell out because you were. We never. I've never had that, man. Some people were. Wind. No. Tell me what was that discussion tonight for the. There was always a discussion that they. Hollywood forces. Now I came on much later. I was. You don't tell that one. What was it? Oprah or something like that? That goes back to. Flip Wilson in the 60s. Did Oprah start that? No, it was. That goes back. That goes back. That goes back. It was Dave on some interview I forgot, where he was trying to make you wear a dress or something. It might have been Dave on Oprah. I'm a conspiracy. There is. To a degree. Like, when I connect dots that maybe shouldn't be connected, I don't know. But certain dots like when I see that they put every black man and movies in a dress at some point in their career. I'll be connecting them down. I'm like, "Why are these breasts gonna wear a dress?" This happened to me. I'm going to move with Martin. Yeah. The movie's going good. So I walk in a trailer. I'm like, "Man, this must be a wrong trailer because there's a dress in here." They come in. The writer comes in. I think he's the writer. He's like, "Dave, listen. We got this hilarious scene where Martin's sneaking out of jail." So he disguises you. It's a prostitute. [LAUGHTER] And he put this dress on. And how? Martin's prostitute. Now I'm not doing that. I don't feel comfortable with it. That should have been in a discussion. What? You don't feel comfortable with it. I mean, this hilarious bit. All the greats have done it. So, well, if all the greats have done it, it's kind of hacky, right? You're right. So why don't we just not do it? Because I don't feel comfortable wearing a dress. I'll come on, Dave. Listen. We got it all set up. We're supposed to shoot every minute you waste costs this much money. No, the pressure comes in. Ha. He said, "I'm not wearing no dress, man. I'm funny than a dress. Just give me some funny to say. I only wear no dress to be funny. I'm not melting barrel. You know, we're going like this." And then finally he's like, "Ah." And he leaves. And then like the director comes, Dave. It really would be great if you wear the dress. This is broke. This is broke back. Mountain in here, so. [LAUGHTER] So that was a combo in the '80s. I mean, I remember. I don't ever remember it. But by the way, that combo in the '80s didn't stop nothing. No. But the '90s gave you some of the fun. [LAUGHTER] We were all dying laughing. None of us were like, "Look at Holly. We're trying to masculine because it was a black produced show with black creators, black writers." Right. In no way were they like, "Oh, there's some like white executive that's not like, could you dress them in little skirts today?" It was like, "No, this is just funny." And then you're like, "Seniel talks about that in the book." What is that? I forgot that there's a character that he plays a woman. He's coming to America. Totally forgot about that character. Yes. When he said, "When he said you wanted to fuck Eddie, so I want to fuck you." I forgot what the word was. I want to fuck you and your friend too. And I want to tear you apart and your friend too. Nobody cares. The comedians are imitating women in their skits, right? They're acting like a girl. They're like, "Manurisms are like a girl within a joke." Right? So within a joke, you could be a girl. The second you put on a dress as that girl, then it's a masculine. It's like-- Yo. Seniel Hall talks about how on SNL, they had Dana Carvey used to do Arsenio. What was his character name? I don't know where he's talking about that. It was Arsenio. This is fun. This is wild stuff. You see this, Ed? You just do this. You go, "Woop, whoop, whoop." And they go crazy. It's just wild, weird stuff. Yes. Just loop, whoop, whoop, and that's it. All right. All right. My name is Karsenio and this is going to be a party. Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. Used to dress hip-hop and all that. I don't think he didn't do black skin, though. No. Yeah, they didn't do black skin. This is smart. They didn't do the black skin. So, my point is, once again, we come from an era where everybody did that to each other. Everybody. Especially comedians. So. They paid a price sometimes. And by the way, roll the dice, James. That's the thing that you want. It's like head dancing. You guys remember head dancing. Don't roll the dice. If you want to do it. I'm not encouraging you to do it. I'm not advocating for you to do it. I'm just simply saying, if you do it, don't be pussy. If you do it, don't be pussy. What else could there be? I heard it's like location from when sales are coming in. That's part of it. Because if you just do it on sales, somebody could just be like, yo, buy a whole bunch in bulk so I can make the list. But now if you see sales coming in from all different places. So this is stopping the publishing company. Yes. From botting the exact sales. Exactly. Or both buys, which is always the big issue that they try to shut down. But this is the publishing company realizes the marketing ability of being in New York times a best seller. So they go, we're going to buy 20,000 copies. Now you got a New York Times best seller. So if you see them being purchased from all these different places, it looks actually like you need people are doing it. I get that then. I get that as having a special sauce because otherwise it'd be too easy. That's right. And so I'm just going to read this. It's not purely numbers. Like you just said, Alex, the list is curated. It's not just a ranking on Amazon. New York Times uses a confidential panel of bookstores and retailers. They wait certain sellers more than others to reflect broad natural interest. So a book that sold, and this is just numbers, if a book sold 10,000 copies, the right way, it can be the book that sold 20,000 in the wrong way. And sometimes when you see the book buys, you'll see that it'll have a cross next to it all. Good. Sometimes that's the list to let you know there was a lot of book buys. That's cheating. That's cheating. That's the same as like when these, when these artists like buy the streams. Yep. And it's like they might be real streams, but it's just a house in India that has iPhones, painted all over the walls, and they're just streaming the song. That's right. And stop for fucking weeks. Well, Mike, I can actually just qualify you. Good, it should. In the old days, with records, the record labels would buy 20,000 copies and then return them after the counting. Hilarious. Yeah. Hilarious. Listen. Slutossinio, Jessalaris is up next. Hey. Now, deaf do we parent? It'll be out April 28th. All right. So go pre-ordered that right now. What else we got? What else we got? Ooh. Going to scroll back up to that? Um. That's a little to row con, man. What's row doing? I just, I just, I like row. Row is not the most exciting politician. But row knows what to say. Um, when things are time to be said. What did you say here? Let's go to the video tape. Let's hear it. As a human being and as an American citizen, I am relieved that Donald Trump has accepted his party as far and would grow on his threat to destroy Iranian civilization. But let's be clear. This did not happen because of Congress, which barely made a whimper. This happened because of the force of the American people. Not just progressives and liberals, but conservatives, like Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Green, and even Ann Colter spoke out against the horror.
of threatening genocide against another people. This tells me one thing, the only thing that will save this country, the only thing that will save our democracy is a broad populist social movement, anti-Epstein class, anti-war, pro-war. - Now we'll say this, it is wild that we live in a society where we have to say we need an anti-Epstein class. What was the other things he said, Chris? Anti-Epstein class, anti-war. - Anti-war, pro-war. - That is most human. - Joe, can I, can I, can I ask you a question? And this is self-admitted about. - We've been like very effective at like protesting things that are pretty horrible. You've seen these amazing protests around the country, like with ICE, like incredible organization and people out in the streets and people really mobilize the no-kings protests, like incredible. Why is there, if nobody in America or the majority of Americans do not want this war? Why has there not been an organized protest simply against the actions? - Oh, it is not right now. - I think, I think too. - I went to no-kings. - That's what they said. - There was a thing. - There's too many things rolled up into one. - Hold on, no-kings is not an anti-Iran war protest is existing protests about no-kings, which I appreciate, but this pre-exist, this pre-dates the Iran more. But I think the brain, the no-kings thing is about, it's about him not asking Congress for sure and just doing what the hell he wants to know. But that's not, well, the question I'm really asking is, is it possible that the powers that be, that are involved in the organization of these protests, that are very important and very powerful, are not willing to incentivize a protest against this war and are they some, in some way, supportive of this war? - I think that's too much going on, shows. - I don't think you could have, I don't think you could have one. - I don't think you could have one. - No, no, I'm with you, but I don't think you could have one protest about one thing. - We had it with ICE. It was one protest about one thing. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There were specific anti-ice protests that happened in Minneapolis that happened in other places around the country. I know Chris, that you've been attending them. - So it's like, I don't, again, I'm just, - I do want you to say a theory. - I do want you to say. - Is it possible that the powers that be are, in some way, like, supportive of this war? - They have had the anti-war Iran protests over the last few weeks though. - They have. - Chris, you were a professional. - There's a lot of protests going on that we don't even know about. - Chris, you are a professional professional. - Of course, I'm a professional professional. - Thank you. - One point, what is that one from? - That's from my last protest. - How many of you know what it is? - Let me see. - It's a little far. - You've got the chance. - You've got the fucking chance. - Get the fuck out of here Chris. - All the shit going on right now. If you're still on this school this shit. - Nah, that's ICE. - It's an ICE thing and they got like, they got cards printed out in a whistle so they're handing out a whistle. - It wasn't even allowed. - You couldn't even use that shit in the tool shortage. - I almost, I'm dead. - It's like, you know why I can't hear that shit. - I almost blew into that shit. - Like Chris blow it. That shit is not loud. - It is. Let's see Chris, hit it. This is one that was handed out of the protest. Let's see if it's affected. - Get the fuck out of here. - Now, now imagine 20,000 people with that going off at the same time. The shit is loud and effective. - Yeah, 20,000. - 20,000. - So we're avoiding my question. - I don't, I don't. - I see what you're saying. I don't know for a sense that's what it is just having gone to these things. I do, I will say, I've never liked the branding of No Kings. There's something that kind of rubs me the wrong way. It feels like it's almost conceding something right off the bat. - There is a king. - Yeah. I do like the idea. And I felt, I have a, I go to all these protests 'cause I think it's very important. I really struggle with them. Like there's a certain performative aspect of a lot of these protests that just kind of makes me uncomfortable. - But I would, I do think the idea of a no-war protest, specifically to be very interesting, 'cause traditionally, if you look at American history, no-war protests have very much always been the territory of the left. And I think what you're suggesting is, if there was an-- - It seems uniting. - They're literally happening, they're literally happening today right now as you speak. - Really? - I googled it. I ran war protests today across the US. Over 60 protests against President Donald Trump's Iran war are erupting nationwide today. Wednesday, April 8th, when anti-war protest is rallying against Trump's war threats and demanding Congress take action to stop Trump and bring US forces home. Dozens of anti-war protests today in DC, New York, Philadelphia, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Maryland are organized by the 50-501 movement, a grassroots initiative fighting to uphold the constitution and end executive overreach. And the answer coalition, a massive anti-war movement, the group's emergency protests today, stop the war on Iran, follow a handful of protests in Philadelphia, New York City, and outside the White House in DC on April 7th. - So Chris, you out the loop, Chris? - I'll go to the next one. - You need to get in the way. - I invite my Republican brothers and sisters out there to join me, I'll have whistles for every-- Oh, no, we won't have whistles 'cause it's not a ice protest. - That's right. - There's one in midtown today. Let me see what time it is, Chris. You can go out there with your whistle. President Donald Trump on a war on Iran has triggered protests across the country, including in New York, where is it at? Where is it at? On Wednesday, 6 p.m. in Times Square. - Who'll join me? Who's gonna join me here? - I want to know, okay? - You did? - Yeah, I don't want to meet you. - Right. - So, they have the question, there you go. - Yeah. - And technically, this isn't a war yet because Congress hasn't voted on it, and they have, he has 90 days for, to do whatever happens. - Complex. - Whatever you wanna call it. - I don't think we need a-- - Yeah, I don't do that. - Declaration of war in order to protest. - No, I get that, but also the way he moves it's like, it could be over tomorrow by one of his tweets, or it can extend for months and months by some of his tweets. So you never really know when to protest. - If you're in jail and somebody fucks you in the ass. - Whoa. - And they don't announce that they fucked you in the ass, or they're fucking you in the ass. Are you getting fucked in the ass? - Yeah. - Okay. - And the fuck, I need a vote to say, hey, this is a war. To mobilize a protest, and then what if, right now, we have a ceasefire. So technically, you're already still at war. - You doing the what is a woman thing? - No, I don't say it. (laughing) - Don't you think that was life? Don't you know what a war is? - What are you talking about, you know what I mean? - Right now, we got a two week ceasefire. Is are we at war? - Do we? - Do we? - I mean, according to-- - Not of the same? - No, that's about a couple hours ago. That was not all he's answering his own question now. (laughing) If they have a two week ceasefire, then that means we were at war. - But the ceasefire and the point of it is to negotiate the ending to-- - But you don't wait until the two weeks in the war starts back, you start protesting now 'cause you don't want the war. - You gotta keep the pressure on so that it feels imperative to end this thing once and for all. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So. (upbeat music) - Let's do some asking idiots. Chris, Taylor Gang is an int day. - We almost bring break this week from the breakfast club. - Oh, really? - Yes, sir. - Oh, that's nice. - So we ain't been in-- You knew who I saw earlier? I saw Teresa Caputo earlier. You know Teresa Caputo? Psychic. - A long alley medium. - Oh, wow. - Yeah. - She get exposed to some shit. Wasn't there like a documentary about her? - Did she? I don't know. - Oh, no, maybe. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else. Why, what's up? - No, I just was with her earlier. - That's interesting. - What's she saying? - Interesting conversation, man. I definitely believe in mediums. I believe mediums have gifts. - All right. - And no, I do. I mean, only because I've had quite a few conversations with mediums in my life. One of them was intentional. Today with Teresa was intentional, but the one I had 20 years ago was not intentional at all. And all three of them have said things to me. I'm like, wow, you know what I'm saying? Like, and the first one I met 20 years ago, everything he said to me came true. - Really? - Oh my God, everything. He, everything, literally everything. Even down to having daughters. And I didn't even have no daughters yet. Like everything, like, so yes, I do believe there are people with gifts. If I believe there's bullshit is out there, sure. But I believe that there's people out there with gifts as well. Why wouldn't there be? - Hmm. - Great. - Hey, like why wouldn't there be? Like why wouldn't God give people gifts to where, you know, folks from the afterlife for the guides that are around us can speak through? Like, you think that they made the movie goes way back when they came from somewhere? You don't believe it? You scared it. You scared the Civil One. You scared the Civil One 'cause you think that they might tell you something that you don't wanna hear. Nice, this is the second cycle, right? Elvis underscored Matisseau. How do you feel about going back to the moon? Is it real or not? Nah. (laughs) Nah, Elvis. - You don't even think they're out there? - Wasn't real back then, isn't real now. - Wow. - Okay, let's talk about it. - Yeah. - So you went to the moon in what, 1969? - 1969. - 1969, 1969. You haven't been back since. With all the events for some technology. Look how good these shit have gotten. - Yeah. - NASA UA ain't got nothing greater that it could get us back sooner, but you went there in 1969. But, 2026, we just getting back, and they say we might not go back for what another decade? Get the fuck outta here, yo. We ain't never been to the moon. We ain't out there now. I don't think because you don't go back. Like, I haven't been back to--
You can't come, but it exists. Why haven't we been back? 'Cause it ain't shit there. So what's the big deal about us being there now? I don't know why we're going. That's why I don't get it. Like what is the advantage? We know, bro. We ain't, go back and look at the original Moolander from 1969. And after seeing that movie with Scarlett Johansson and Channing Tatum, fly me to the moon. Absolutely fucking not. But what's the idea of this one that they went to see the dark side of the moon, right? Yeah. Isn't it all dark out there? No, they got the light, the sun shining on half of it. I believe that humans can't fathom being so primitive, y'all. Irflings hate the fact, especially American Irflings, that we just are not the most intelligent life in all of these universes and galaxies. What I do believe is that they're fully aware of UFOs and extraterrestrials. And I believe that there have been those of us in government who've been in contact with them. And it's an ego thing with them. And those extraterrestrials are sitting back laughing, like look at these motherfuckers still lying about going to the goddamn moon and convincing their whole civilization that they really out here. So do you think that the spaceship even went into the sky? Do planes go in the sky? I believe that we do have rockets that can get to a certain distance outside of her. Do you believe in satellite? I believe in the Jeff Bay so shit. Oh, the women going. Do you believe they went to space? Why don't you believe they went to space? You don't be sexist. Sexist, because I'll be honest with you, I don't think that Jeff thought they were gonna make it back. I thought he was trying to get out of that relationship and he was just like, let me do something nice for my girl and her friends and then Kaboom and then what a tragedy. That's what I think he was trying. It's cheaper to keep her, but it's way cheaper to blow her up. And that's what I thought was gonna happen. And then their miracle happened when they were able to get back. Listen, Neil deGralitizes that he knows we went to the moon. How the fuck do you know that, Neil? Yeah. You just taking the word of some people that say they went there. Yeah. I just want to know, listen, okay. And by the way, everything we're saying is straight brewing idiot logic. I just want to know if we went in 1969, why haven't we been back since? Nothing there. With all the advancements and technology and why won't we be going back for another 10 years? Because there's nothing there. Does somebody got to tell me? 'Cause to your point, once somebody discovered Kankoom, people kept going back and Kaboom back and Kaboom back. Yeah, if it's fire, you're gonna go back, but I don't think they found anything up there. They say allegedly it's a McDonald's on the moon. Really? That's what the streets say. Now, well, good for Ronald. They say it's a McDonald's on the moon. They say it's a space station on the moon. People who've actually been to the moon say these things. Only those of us who haven't been say it's nothing there. So Americans say it's nothing there. The people who've been say that shit lit. They say it's popping. It says mad space stations out there. All type of different species out there living in perfect harmony. Okay, they say it's a fucking McDonald's out there. Y'all forgot when McDonald's had the moon, man. Remember that? No. Why the fuck did McDonald's look like that? That was the soft rollout. What year was that, Chris? The 90s. Did the people who really been going, look it up. McDonald's movement. There were people who really been going to McDonald's. They know what was out there. McDonald's, this was the soft rollout. We thought this was for us. No, this was for the moon. This was for the people back in the night. That was him. Max the motherfucking night. He was actually a crescent moon. That was a rollout. An endorsement for everybody with the fuck was really going on on the moon. And Ron really went up there on a regular basis. Ron it. Okay, that wasn't for us. We thought that was for us. No, that was for people who make regular trips to the moon, motherfuckus. Shout out to Max tonight. Okay, but no, to answer the question, no, I don't believe that nobody's out there. I don't believe that we've been to the moon and I don't believe we're out there now. No. Okay, okay, okay. Let me give you another question. Just you believe so much. Let me ask you another question. I'll ask you another question. Why can't they land on it? They landed on it in '69, but can't now? Yeah, now they just want to hover around it. But what are they gonna do there? Yesterday, they went out a community, they lost communication for 40 minutes. I don't think we landed the first time, but I do think this time we are there. Like we did circle it. We circled it before the Apollo mission with Tom Hanks circled it. I don't believe none of this shit. I don't believe it. Don't believe it. You believe the first? We'll land it. Yeah. I don't believe it. Why? Circling on Mike and get what? Obviously we circled it. Circling on Mike and get what it's. Land and get them now. Sending that live footage. It's delayed, come on. I mean, it's just sending it, like do you believe in satellites? If you believe in satellites, then the moon is a satellite. Father, then our satellites are. The moon is a satellite. What's the difference? I'm just saying, back in that day, I don't think we had the technology to-- I don't believe it. I don't even think the moon is that far. What, it's like 250 times where the further satellite is, right? Yeah, but my distance is not that far. I don't think it's that far. It's far. No, I don't think the moon is that far, far, far. I don't think so. I think that's the thing that we're-- Right now, there's a space nerd right now who's human. Well, fuck that space nerd, just what I want to tell them. You're telling me that they landed in '69, but now they can just circle. I don't think '69 was true, but I do think now is true. Do you guys think human history, as as old as people say is? What do you mean by that? Which people? Meaning the idea that human civilizations go back, what is it, like, six, 700,000 years? No. That's a lot. So there's other theories out there that like-- That's a lot. The whole world is like 700 years old. No. There's a Roman, I mean, a Russian version of that. We're like-- 700,000 years crazy. No, no. Civilization doesn't go back 700,000 years. There might have been like humans, you know, in our, like, more or less current form. But like, civilization goes back, what, like, 10,000 years? Yeah, I mean, 700,000 years is a long time for God. Not that I've gotten the recipe all the way right, guys. I'm just saying, like, I'm just saying, 10,000 years, five to 10,000 years ago, and he's still ain't quite got the recipe right. But what if God likes the reality show? Like, you don't put rational actors in the reality show. It's the housewives, right? Like, do you think when we're creating, like, Andy Cohen is creating all these housewives shows or whatever, do you think God is like, man, he really knows my shit. Man. God damn it. 'Cause that's what this is, like, yeah. 'Cause you could really, if you're a God, right? And you really just want to keep everything above board. Hey, stop adding the free will. You treat the free will like the fucking corn starch. And say, you know what I mean? It's a little bit. Yeah, I don't eat none. Oh, none? No, no, no, no. What's that shit that robbing up? Can you want to get rid of? Red die, four die, call it. Get rid of no free will. Okay, give him no free will. You'll get the rest of me just right. Ooh. What if free will is what gives it the flavor? You need the flavor. You need the flavor. You need the flavor. And it's an entertaining show to watch. Oh, my God. We've been, we've been delivering non-stop entertainment for a few thousand years, man. For a few thousand years, bro. I mean, I wonder what was his best season? What was God's favorite season? Ooh. I think World War II was probably crazy, bro. Nah, BC. Oh, you're talking about life. Before I sit in my son and y'all was just trying to figure it out, like, ooh for you. Rubbing shit together, two sticks to make wood. Yeah. Yeah. And somebody's like, you know, let's rub our dicks together and see what happens. What the hell? Yeah. And this is how I got to, that's the Greek history. I got it. Yeah. Nah. He's had a couple little empires pop off that have been pretty crazy. Roman Empire was kind of fired. Ottoman. Greek Persian. What if he started making the penises bigger so they stopped (beep) I think that might have been part of it. What? Nah, nah, I think you might be right about that. Yes. Nah, he was probably, he was like, we gotta, we gotta increase these. Yes, these kids are fitting these locks. So we gotta make these kids bigger. Oh my God. Will's underscored treasure. Who would win in a fight? You right now versus you at 20 years old. I whip my ass at 20? I whip my ass at 20. I beat the shit out of the 20 year old me. Let me think. Nah, I think 20 year old me is fucking me up. 'Cause I was boxing at 20. So yeah, 20 year old me is fucking me up. 100%. I'm definitely fucking me up. I'm definitely stronger at this age than I was at 20. But my workouts are different. Like you got the grown man's strength. You got the grown man's strength the way I workout is different. The things I know at 40 is different. I'm fucking me up at 20. Plus I know me. So I know exactly where I do not want to get sick. I would even know what to say to me to probably put a little fear in my heart. That's a good thing. Straight up. At 20? I'll fuck me up. That's a good one. I'll fuck me up. Yeah. And whisper in my ear. Yeah. That's what you said. That's what I said to me. I whisper in my ear. I was a Greek in a Roman in the past. No. I was. No. No. No. No. That's what Lavega says at what age are men allowed to just be human? What does that mean? I know exactly what it means. What does he mean by that? He means that what age are men allowed to take the mask off and just beat them, son. And just be. We don't have to be what society says. We should be as men. We don't have to follow any of that.
- You can just be. - Let me say 35. - Nah, more. - Higher? - No. I think this happens in your 30s. - Well, I would refer you to the question a little bit. You're allowed to just be human at any point in your life. And what is your main comfortable to just be human is a different. - Or stop giving it a fuck. - Yes. - I really do. - I think kids can shake this up a little bit, but I think we're looking at 40 plus, bro. - Yeah, I can see that. - 40 plus, men allowed to just be comfortable being human at 40 plus, I think so. - I think 35, you're still in the rat race a little bit. You're still trying to compete, figure it out, look fly. 40 in kids, you're like, man, who gives it fuck? - That's why I respect those people who find themselves at a very young age. When you find yourself at a very young age, and you're comfortable with who you are and what you are, that is a very good space to be in. - I'm always skeptical of that shit, bro. - But I will say this, it's so funny, I was having this conversation this weekend 'cause I was talking to somebody, and then I thought about something my daddy always said, my dad said that if a man, a man who gets some money, or gets some tremendous amount of success, and for gets who they are, I never knew who they were at the beginning. So I do appreciate people who knew who they were prior to any type of success, any type of family. You'll meet young people like this. It's usually society in the world that strips that away from the young person. Like the person is confident, they're secure in who they are, and then they get out here, and people start telling them what they're doing is wrong, or the way they dress is wrong, the way they think is wrong, and then you start second guessing yourself and questioning yourself, and that's when you lose it, you know what I mean? But there's people that never lose it. - Yeah. - And I respect those people wholeheartedly, and I respect the ones who lost it and got it back too. - Yeah. - But yeah, I think you do get it back like after 40. - After 40, man. - After 40. Yeah. I have no idea. Vijay Dugal says going to Japan solo and me, what food spot should I visit, anything else? I asked the Asian in the room. Chris, how many times have you been in Japan? - Never. - But I know you've been there. - You got to go to the old fish market in Tokyo. Have some sushi there. Go to the new one too, 'cause you could see actually, you know, where they're like putting out all like the big tunas, and I think people bidding on it and stuff like that, but you got the old fish one, yes, correct. - Really, incredible. You got to have pizza out there. - Really. - So great. - Really is unbelievable. - Really? - It's arguably like one of the best. Japanese like they've done doing their shit, so they're just perfecting other people shit. - Why don't you give them props last week when we were talking pizza? - I did. - Yes, they shit about your paying pizza. - I did. - No, you did. - I've always talked about Japanese pizza. - No, you ain't talking about the Japanese pizza. - You've said it before, but not during last weeks. - No, that's because y'all were talking crazy, putting fucking oxtail on pizza. They would never do something. Imagine what they doing that shit in Japan. - What do you think they're putting on that? - Oh, types of shit. - Like what? - Everything. - That's not the same with Chinese, right? - Nope. - Oh, okay. - I know what you were going. - I'm sorry, Jeff. - I knew what you were going. - Why did you let me go? - You shouldn't have let me go. - Tell you what. - Because you're my best friend. - But you should have stopped me. - You know what else is a man's best friend? - That's a cool approach. - I think what they do is they don't do their own version of shit. They go, oh, this is your version of it. We're going to do the best version of that. - Best piece I've ever had is in Taipei for what it's worth. - Really? - I think it was an outlier, but it was a Sicilian guy who married a Taiwanese woman and moved to, and it was insane. - Wow. - Little nowhere spot, I couldn't believe it. - Yeah. - Pizza? - Pizza. - I mean, you just, you go check out the pizza. I wish I knew the name of the spot, man. It's unbelievable. And then steak. They do steak. Incredible out there. And not just wagyu. I don't even fuck with the wagyu like that. Like it's just too like fatty and what is the, when something's really fatty, what is it? No, but what is the, it's too rich. I don't like it, but if you go to a good spot out there and they got steak, run it up because it's going to be fire. And also go to one of their cocktail bars. They got great cocktails out there. And they're like, cut the ice with a sword. It's, they would, Japan would be my number one food stop if I could go anywhere. You're probably not wrong. - I might do Japan this year while you bullshit. - You should. - I really might. - You should. - What else we got? Let's do one more, man. Let's do one more. Make it a good one, man. - Old. - That one to the right is interesting. - What's that one, what's the market say? - We'll see what that is interesting. Scrub a little bit more. Chris, that is my real view footage. - Okay. - All right, go back. All right, far dot three on. If animals could talk, which one do you think would be the most racist? - Oh wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. - Good. - Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. - A raccoon, yeah. - That's just the name of it. - Coons would be funny as shit. Coons would be like, what the fuck? Do y'all keep calling these sell out motherfuckers me? I'm the fucking Malcolm X to the goddamn world. - I'm the real one. - That's about me, man. I gotta walk around with a mask on 'cause of all the revolutionary shit that I'm doing. The fuck is y'all talking about? - Okay. I'm out here eating out of trash cans 'cause they won't even let me and the establishments in the motherfucking woods. 'Cause I'm so motherfucking revolutionary. And y'all out here calling people me. - Nah. - The fuck is wrong with this y'all. The disrespect is crazy. It's these dudes out of the motherfucking sell out. - They are. - Okay? - They are. - Great. - They ain't no motherfucking coons. Y'all should be out here calling these sell outs deers. Okay? Fuck as you're talking about. They out here getting shot by the white man every other day and they never revolted. We're eating their trash. - They're coming up on their-- - You see what I'm saying? - Taking the trash. - I'm talking to them if they cover them. - Fuck y'all out of here. Who's the most racist one? - And I'm going, man. - The most racist polar bears. - Yeah, the polar bears are pretty like white power for sure. - Why? 'Cause they're so white. - Yeah. - And they get the commercials. You think they're all sweet and nice and then they're like, oh, but the dark ones is the ones you gotta watch out for. - Yeah. - Like dogs are low-key racists already. (laughing) They just do it their toll. - No. - Nah, I like some tolls. - Sometimes they just bark at black people, bro. But they do that to white people too, if they don't know you, if I got a dog on my property and you're just walking, they go bark. You think? I think sheep. Tell me why. 'Cause y'all be fucking 'em. But you gotta see the wagon, though. - But that's what I'm saying. - Like sheep are probably like, hate white people. - These racists as rapists as hate white people. Why did they always come? - Commonizers, you know what I'm saying? Like the black people never do this to us. - Yeah, that's true. - And they're so, and they're so fucking racist. - They don't even fuck the black sheep. They come out here and do this to their own. (laughing) - Yo, hold on, hold on, hold on, that was so cool. - Yo, what if the sheep? - If you fucking animals, you're not discriminating, man. - What if there's a black sheep and the sheep see the white people coming? The white people are just fucking the white sheep. They're mad because they're not fucking the black sheep and then the white sheep go see you fucking coons and then the coons come out of the woods and attack the fucking sheep. 'Cause they're sick of this shit. - They're like sheep. - Y'all know better. These humans may not know fucking better, but y'all know better. The sheep stay around like they might want it. Damn, like yeah, what are y'all wearing? I'm just a nice wool, you know? - Are you dressed like that? - Like why are you dressed like that, man? You know, shout out Peter, man. You guys are doing the Lord's work. - Are they? - Oh no. - I'm not the Peter. - I'm Scottish, man. (laughing) What's the Peter's the, your name? - Ingrid. - Ingrid, new Kirk, shout out the Ingrid, new Kirk. - Ingrid, I heard me in a while. - Ingrid. Okay, shout out the Ingrid. - Save the sheep Ingrid. (laughing) - The sheep getting clapped. We need to save the sheep. - As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're burned, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right too, it's the burn in this podcast. Thank you for listening. - Hey.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Parenting children involves navigating their evolving personalities, with shifts in behavior—such as from "easy" to "hard" kids—often rooted in developmental stages rather than malicious intent.
Children use manipulation, like pretending to be sick, to avoid activities or gain attention, and parents must balance trust with discernment to avoid overreacting to their claims.
The rise of mental health awareness allows kids to express emotions more openly, which can be beneficial but also exploited as a tool for manipulation, especially in high-pressure environments like school or social media.
Summary:
The conversation explores the complexities of parenting, particularly how children's behavior evolves with age and development. It highlights that shifts in a child’s temperament—like moving from an "easy" to a "hard" kid—often reflect natural developmental phases rather than intentional rebellion. Parents are advised to engage in open, one-on-one conversations with their children to understand their emotions and needs, especially when issues like sleep disturbances or school resistance arise.
These behaviors, including lying or pretending to be sick, are seen as manipulative tactics common across generations, but now amplified by modern access to mental health discussions and social media. The discussion also touches on how children, especially younger ones, may lack the emotional maturity to manage stress or express feelings appropriately, leading to anxiety or acting out. While mental health awareness is a positive development, it raises concerns about potential manipulation, especially when kids use emotional vulnerability to avoid responsibilities.
The speaker emphasizes the importance of parental awareness, empathy, and consistent communication, noting that both parents and children benefit from honest, non-judgmental dialogue. The conversation concludes by reflecting on broader societal changes—such as increased access to mental health resources and the influence of media—on how children express themselves and how parents navigate these challenges. Ultimately, the key takeaway is that parenting remains a deeply personal, evolving journey where emotional intelligence, patience, and trust are essential.
FAQs
Children often pretend to be sick as a way to manipulate their parents or avoid situations they don't want to face. This behavior is common in early childhood and can be a form of self-expression or emotional regulation, especially when they feel overwhelmed or anxious.
Around ages 6 to 7, children's personalities can shift significantly. One child may go from being 'easy-going' to 'difficult', and vice versa, often due to changing emotions, school experiences, or social interactions that influence their behavior.
Yes, parenting styles can shape a child's resilience. Children raised in environments with financial luxury may develop different coping mechanisms compared to those who faced hardship, and parents who lack emotional resilience may pass that on to their children.
Parents should listen carefully and avoid immediately dismissing the child's concerns. It's important to assess whether the child is genuinely in pain or using it as a way to avoid an activity, while also teaching them to express their feelings honestly and avoid manipulation.
Yes, lying and manipulation are common in young children, especially around ages 2 to 7, when they begin to understand cause and effect and use strategies like pretending to be sick to get out of activities they don’t want to do.
Parents can build trust by having open, one-on-one conversations, asking questions like 'what's wrong?' without judgment, and letting children express themselves without immediately reacting or punishing them.
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