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MOMENT | “I Didn’t Know Who I Was After My Baby” with Michelle Kennedy on Matrescence

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MOMENT | “I Didn’t Know Who I Was After My Baby” with Michelle Kennedy on Matrescence

In this episode, host Oe interviews Michelle Kennedy, founder of Peanut, about her journey with "matressance" (motherhood experience) and identity. After her first child, Finn, Michelle felt lost, not knowing "Michelle the mom," but found clarity through building her business and later having her second child, Nula. She emphasizes that motherhood is a significant chapter but not the only one—women are multifaceted and can choose their favorite chapter. Michelle discusses the importance of self-care, using the metaphor of keeping your own glass full to overflow into others' glasses, rather than depleting yourself. Her non-negotiables include a morning shower and coffee break, as well as protecting bedtime hours with her children, which she learned to set as a boundary after initially missing bedtimes due to work. She advises that even small acts like a shower can be humanizing for new mothers. Michelle’s message encourages mothers to prioritize themselves without guilt, as this enables them to support others effectively. The episode validates the struggles of identity and trade-offs in motherhood, offering inspiration for listeners to embrace their multifaceted selves.

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[Music] Hi everyone, it is your host Oe here. Welcome welcome, it's Monday which means it is mother kind moment day, your little shot of inspiration, of support and validation to set you up for the week. Today is with the incredible Michelle Kennedy founder of Peanut who have just launched an incredible campaign to make Matressance mainstream. I would really encourage you to Google make Matressance mainstream, look at that campaign, I was very proud to be a part of it. So in this little shot of inspiration today, I ask Michelle about her matressance and I think what she has to say might just surprise you. I think it will validate how you feel and I really hope that you take from this that however your Matressance experiences you are not alone. Here it is. How did your identity changes you've been through your two Matressance experiences? Because you said they were trying to figure out who we are. You strike me as someone who knows quite clearly who you are that you know your values and how is that true and how did you get to that place? I think I do now. I don't know if I knew who I was. Certainly I didn't after Finn. Yeah. And I found that really hard. I didn't know Michelle the mom at all there. I knew who I was at work. I knew who I was as a friend, as a daughter, but I definitely found Michelle the mom that was still a work in progress. I didn't really know that part. And obviously as I started to develop, not just my career but the concept of building something, that became clearer. I was going to do this new adventure and Finn was going to be very intrinsically linked and that was really exciting. And so that became a bit clearer. I think by the time I had Nula, which was many, many years later, it's quite, you know, six years. I've got four years. And when I had knew by then I definitely did feel clearer. And I think that's in no small part because of course my business was focused on supporting these women and these moms at these key life moments. So I was living and breathing the product and using the product because I had Nula and we went into lockdown. And I had this little baby at home who couldn't leave the house, who couldn't go to the, you know, the monkey music. Yeah, I was the same. And it's really frightening. You're like, well, everything I knew has gone out the window and I'm learning all over again. I know I'm very clear who I am and the journey I've taken. And it's not for everyone. And I would say that motherhood is absolutely the best chapter in my book. But it's not the only chapter. And that has taken me quite a while to really come to understand that. I am multifaceted as women. We are multifaceted. And that's a great thing. And you can choose your favourite chapter of your book. It doesn't have to be, you know, you're not just one chapter. And now a quick word from our sponsors. And I'm wondering, building peanut, you know, two children, yeah, holding huge community with with all the mothers you support. You know, I know you support lots of other female entrepreneurs. You know, you hold a lot of things. How do you get comfortable with the trade-offs you have to make? That's really hard. There's a piece in the book and I really like it because it's from one of the experts. And for me, it really has helped me think about how I approach things, which is you go to the faucet and you fill your glass. And then you pour a little bit of that water into every glass that needs the water. And then when yours is empty, you go back and you do it again, fill it back up and fill all the glasses. And actually what you should do is leave the tap on and let your glass overflow and fill into the other glasses below so that yours is always topped up. Well, that's much easier said than does. I know that. But actually, if you try and keep that in your mind's eye of actually, I can't be all the things unless I'm doing some of the bare minimum for myself. And some of that's unavoidable. You know, we were just discussing, you know, you want to have a night's sleep and a little person appears in your bed at 3am and that's it, you're awake until morning. But sometimes there are things that I want to do for me that I feel braver to say that I think historically, I would have thought people would think I'm selfish or think people would think that I'm a bad mommy. And now I feel like it's the most important thing I could do. So that means that if I need to go and have a shower and close the door and the rule is no one goes into the room while mommy's in the shower, I need that. I need 20 minutes. Singing the shower, feel happy again, whatever it is, do my face routine, whatever it is, I need that. And we all have to respect that. And that's the way I can do all of the things. And some of the things won't get done. And that's okay too. What are the things like that? Are your non-negotiable? Non-negotiable. Okay, in the morning, this is a bit weird. It's almost like a ritual. But in the morning, the kids go down and I get ready. So I have to shower. Yeah. They wake up at, you know, six, go and get myself ready. And then I go down and do breakfast and do everything. But I have to have had that 20 minutes just to get myself together. I understand if you're listening to this and you've got a baby and you've got a toddler, that goes out the window. This is when they're a bit older and you get this luxury. And it is a luxury that I don't take for granted. It's a huge, huge luxury. But if you are in that early stage and that infant stage, I promise you a shower is the most humanizing thing that can happen. And if there is anyone who can hold the baby, hold the toddler for 20 minutes while you shower at any time of the day, it is humanizing and you will come to treasure it. So I treasure my showers. And I really, really, really love to have my Starbucks or other coffee. I drink really bad coffee. Sweetened coffee. And I like to have that moment after I've taken the kids to school. I just have 10 minutes where I'm just drinking that. I do my emails and those are kind of like protected times. And then everything else is like to the wall. You get no choice. Chaos. A toke. Just survival. What does it, what do evenings look like for you? Mad. You know, also we're at that point now where it's someone's got football practice and someone's like a crazy ginger skill. It is. Yeah, totally. It's totally. Same. And so we've always got, you know, someone's moving around somewhere to do something, some kind of club. I still keep the non-negotiable to the extent I can that I did when Finn was little. It took me so long to get it that I don't give it up. I liked to put my kids to bed and I want to be offline for that hour while I put them to bed. Yeah. And it took me a very long time when I went back to work when Finn was five months old. For the first two months of that, I missed bed times because I was working and I felt I couldn't say it. And it made me resentful and it made me bitter and it made me set a really bad example for every other woman in that organization who thought that's what they had to do to succeed. And it took me a really long time to go in and say, you can call me, don't call me between six and seven. Yeah. Or there's I went answer. Exactly. I'm your all your seven thirty onwards. Call me all night, don't care. He'll be awake anyway. But that time I'm putting into bed and I want to be with him. Yep. And wherever possible, I keep that even now. What an incredible episode I hope you loved it too. If you've got this far, then I am guessing that you did. So make sure that you share it with a friend and subscribe so you never miss an episode and I will see you Thursday for more. See you next time.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Michelle Kennedy, founder of Peanut, discusses her "matressance" (motherhood experience) and identity changes through two children.
  2. After her first child, she struggled to know "Michelle the mom" but found clarity through building her business and supporting other mothers.
  3. Motherhood is a key chapter but not the only one; women are multifaceted and can choose their favorite chapter.
  4. She advocates for self-care
  5. Setting boundaries (e.g., being offline during bedtime) is essential to avoid resentment and set a good example for others.

Summary:

In this episode, host Oe interviews Michelle Kennedy, founder of Peanut, about her journey with "matressance" (motherhood experience) and identity. After her first child, Finn, Michelle felt lost, not knowing "Michelle the mom," but found clarity through building her business and later having her second child, Nula. She emphasizes that motherhood is a significant chapter but not the only one—women are multifaceted and can choose their favorite chapter.

Michelle discusses the importance of self-care, using the metaphor of keeping your own glass full to overflow into others' glasses, rather than depleting yourself. Her non-negotiables include a morning shower and coffee break, as well as protecting bedtime hours with her children, which she learned to set as a boundary after initially missing bedtimes due to work. She advises that even small acts like a shower can be humanizing for new mothers.

Michelle’s message encourages mothers to prioritize themselves without guilt, as this enables them to support others effectively. The episode validates the struggles of identity and trade-offs in motherhood, offering inspiration for listeners to embrace their multifaceted selves.

FAQs

It is a campaign launched by Michelle Kennedy's company Peanut to normalize the experience of matrescence, the transition into motherhood. The host encourages listeners to Google it.

After her first child, Finn, she didn't know who she was as a mom and found it hard. By her second child, Nula, she felt clearer due to her business supporting mothers and living through lockdown with a baby.

She compares it to filling your glass from a faucet and pouring into others, but advises leaving the tap on so your glass overflows into others, keeping you topped up. It's about prioritizing yourself to be able to help others.

She has a 20-minute shower in the morning before the kids wake up, and a 10-minute coffee break after school drop-off. She also protects the hour she puts her kids to bed by staying offline.

She learned from missing bedtimes when her first child was young that it made her resentful and set a bad example for other women. Now she insists on being offline from 6 to 7 PM for that time.

She says if you have a baby or toddler, ask someone to hold them for 20 minutes so you can shower at any time of day. She calls it humanizing and a luxury to treasure.

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