Mom’s Mystery Killer Exposed 23 Years Later

- Oh, well, what'd your emergency? - Um, I worked for a company and we didn't hear a call from an employee. We just walked in the door, our husband and I, and there's blood in the foyer, and it looks like something possibly happened. - You hear what that happened? - From the husband, yes. - It's a beautiful May morning, 2001. And totally out of the blue, a woman is murdered right in her own home. Was it a burglary gone bad, was it a crime of passion? No one would really know that answer for almost 25 years. - And you said some things were not done? - Yeah, I'm blood in the foyer and I didn't just get knocked over. - There's blood all along the wall, splattered blood. There's a lot of blood. - So I'm like, okay, something, something has happened here. - Chevy Chase is a very upscale, wealthy community. It's kind of a place where nothing bad ever happens. - The white collar, beautiful. Everybody knew, everybody, and it was just absolutely gorgeous. It was a remarkable place to grow up. You felt safe all the time. - It is a famously low crime area. I mean, it's one of the real draws for people. So a case like this, as you can imagine, was incredibly shocking. - You have this idyllic neighborhood that borders Washington, DC. And this is where Leslie Preer and her husband Carl, known as Sandy. This is where they raised their daughter, Lauren. - Leslie was a really sweet, kind, wonderful, southern charm lady. She really was great. - Leslie Preer was about 50 years old. Leslie was beautiful. She was warm, magnetic. People described Leslie as very generous and open. Carl Preer, who was known as Sandy, is Leslie's very long time husband. They were married for almost 30 years. And he was also known to be very warm, very devoted to his family, spending a lot of time with his wife, and a lot of time with his daughter. Lauren Preer is the daughter, the only child of Leslie Preer and Sandy Preer. All Leslie talked about most of the day was Lauren, where she was going, what she was doing, she bragged about her daughter. - But on what should have been just an ordinary Wednesday morning in May 2001, for some reason, Leslie Preer doesn't show up for work. - She's not there at 1015, 1021. And then it was 1030, and I asked one of the front desk administrator workers at Diane. I said, "Call the house and see if you can get any answer." And she said, "Brett, there's no answer." So now it's getting about 1040, 1045, and now I'm getting kind of concerned. - Her boss started calling her husband and her daughter to see if there was a reason appearing at work, and nobody could figure anything out and they thought it was weird. - I said to Sandy, "I want to go over there. I'll drive to that house, and I'll probably find something." And he says, "I'm going to go over there, too." And Sandy and I walked into that house right away to the right of the floor. I saw a blood. And I see some tables knocked over, and some games were knocked over on the floor. So okay, something's going on here. He went upstairs to look for Leslie. And he was there very quick, maybe 30 seconds. But when I remember, and then back downstairs. And then we walked in the back towards the kitchen. And I said, "Look at this, Sandy, the kitchen is full of blood. This is definitely a struggle." And the kitchen door also was open a little bit, a little jar. And about the blood was smeared blood as if somebody tried to clean it up. At that point, I knew something of foul play. But I said, "Sandy, I think we should call 911." And I asked him to step out of the house. Sure. Okay, we sent the call. And we should get ready. I asked Sandy when we went outside and waiting for the police. You know, you're upstairs really quick. And he said, "Oh, but I didn't check the bathroom. Didn't make sense to me, you didn't check the bathroom." The former officer showed up, went upstairs into the master bedroom. She was found in a shower victim of a violent assault. And she was dead. This guy picks her body up and brings it upstairs into the shower and puts scolding hot water on her. She suffered, you know, first to be burned, a third to be burned. Under where the boner was hitting her, I was trying to wash off any DNA. He knows at that time. He's got his blood, his stuff all over. He's got to clean all this up. He's got to go downstairs, clean it all up. It's a bloody mess to say the least. And here's Sandy Preer, reeling from his wife's brutal murder. And now he has the terrible task of telling their daughter Lauren what happened to her mom. She was early 20. She was not living at home with her parents when the murder occurred. And I saw a police car pull up. And I was like, that's strange. Because there was never any crime or anything. And then my dad got out. He said, "Daddy, what's going on?" And then this is my life changed at this point. This is all in slow motion, too. Because when trauma happens, it's all like one word at a time. You don't hear it all at once. He's like, "Lauren, there's been an accident." "Your mom's not with us anymore." I lost my mind. Lost. I went to my bedroom and just shrieked. Like the screams that you hear from like the bottom of your heart and stomach leak. I was done. That had such literally the perfect life growing up. Perfect. Perfect parents. Beautiful home. Wonderful friends. And my life shattered. And I just. I saw the world in a different way. Police are left to make sense of this awful crime scene. And what is seemingly a random crime. She could have been getting ready for work and then heard something and come downstairs and encountered the intruder. They were looking at burglarers that had done crime in the area or people that had been arrested recently for burglary. There was no evidence of forced entry. So it was someone that was familiar with the house, how to get in, or someone that she would have let in. Often in crimes like this, I mean the husband can be a suspect. Very quickly, detective zeroed in on sandy prayer, Leslie's husband. And I think that really took on a life of its own. So police begin a series of interviews with sandy prayer and they question him about his every move. Everything from the night before Leslie's murder through the morning she was killed. And some of those details do seem curious. Was she standing at the door when you left? Yes. Was the door open? Yes. And you said that she was wearing just a wrong face, correct? He did provide details that could confirm a suspicion if it was already there. I mean, first of all, he went and searched the house for her on that morning and didn't find her. And then police arrived and she wasn't that hidden. I mean, she was in the bathroom. So that was, I think, a little weird for them and understandably so. I know you might not want to touch on it, okay? But when we had talked, we'd mention like the wife's strength, okay? What was your normal routine as far as like nothing, do you think? Would she, or would she just get out like a kid's bottle or what? She would definitely have the glass of wine pretty much after she got home. Um, just one, no, I made it. Uh, is this, is this important thing for us? She would have a lot. And in all honesty, it's one of the reasons why I kind of come home late, because I, I just really, um, uh, it was just kind of, it was, kind of, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was hard to deal with. When police interview Sandy Preer, he tries to answer every question as, honestly, as he can. I mean, after all, he wants detectives to find out who murdered his wife. But some of those details don't present him in the best light. And so you could see him going through every time they'd fought, every time he had done something that could have been perceived as violent. He talked about sometimes that she was too drunk, some fights that they'd had that turned ugly, but none of them ever violent or close to violent. The most violent ever got was I, I grab her and just, uh, you know, you got to snap out of it. I grab in her by her shoulders it, you know, you got to snap out of it. And that, I did that, you know, one time in a, you know, really, I mean, she, you know, hit the wall. I'm nothing, you know, smashing or anything. You hit the wall and she's burst into tears and I'm thinking, God, what am I doing? So, um, so I pretty much controlled myself to where I just, I wasn't going, I was not going to go here. So police also interviewed Brett Reedy. This is Leslie's boss who met Sandy at the house the morning of the murder. Uh, did Leslie share with you or any other co-workers to your knowledge, any personal problems that she was having at home or issues that she was having at home? What I did here was that she did drink a lot. Anything else? How about relationship with her husband? No, she didn't say anything about that to me. When police later talked to their daughter, Lauren, they asked even more pointed questions about her mother, Leslie. We discussed, I think maybe Jim discussed with you about the possibility of having a boyfriend or a pair of more of whatever, if I know, uh, forty-one of them, we followed that about this far as we can follow it. We talked to friends, acquaintances, going back ten years and nobody has been able to provide us with any inkling. And, I mean, I told you everything that I know, I swear on my life and I would not do anything to you. For one second in the beginning, literally, one second, I thought, I was like, could my dad really have done that? When I understood what happened to Leslie, like, to my mom, I said, there's no way, no way. It was brutal. So Sandy Preer eventually takes a polygraph test and shockingly, he fails it. That makes police focus on him even more intently and push him even harder. Sometimes during the right thing ain't easy. Sometimes it takes a whole hell of a lot of intestinal fortitude to go in and do the right thing. To suck it up and to admit to it, and so you can move on. And that's what you really need to do. For you and for Lord, especially for Lord, you gotta do the right thing, man. You got to. I think I am. In fact, I know I am. And I just tell you one thing, you got the wrong guy. I mean, it's remarkable watching detectives interrogate Sandy, I felt, on like a human level, like insisting to him that he had killed his wife without a lot of evidence that that was the case. When the autopsy report comes back, yes, it sheds a little bit more light on what happened to Leslie, but to be clear, this doesn't exonerate her husband Sandy. The medical examiner had ruled it blunt force trauma and strangulation. So from analyzing the area where most of the blood was found, there is a part in the door jam where the wall comes out and it makes a corner, a V-shape, and it matched the lacerations that were in the back of Leslie's head that were V-shape to notches. So from what we can determine, the person was strangling her and bashing her head into the ground where it would have hit that corner. But she also was fixated, she was choked and broke the small bone at the bottom of the neck. So they knew that she was still alive when she was strangled. This was not an accident, it was not a fall, this was a violent attack. It seemed very personal. It didn't seem like a random act of violence, it seemed very personal and who else would have a personal need to injure someone that badly other than a lover or a husband. And there is something else in that coroner's report that points to Sandy Prayer. The coroner said that they believed that Leslie died in the early morning hours. Well, just in the early morning hours, it's either him or him and a friend or him hiring a friend while he's somewhere else or one of those scenarios. All those went through our head, yes, at that point. Rex told my Sandy, and that's Barbara Gielinwood. You haven't told us that yet. We are physical evidence that shows Leslie was dead before stomach like in one physical levitation shows that physical evidence that shows it. And that don't lie, people lie. I've told you everything exactly how it happened. And I don't have anything else to say. And then the crime scene analysis comes back from the lab. At the crime scene, there are multiple locations where single source DNA was found and it was identified as a male DNA source. But this is not Sandy's DNA, it's another man's. There were a couple of places that his blood was found and underneath Leslie's fingernails. We're all processed and analyzed and determined that they were a match for the same unknown male. Now investigators are wondering, could this be someone that Sandy hired to kill his wife? Or was Leslie's murder orchestrated by someone else entirely? His blood was mixed with her blood in a certain area where the bottom of the stairs were and he knew he was cut. He was injured, probably knew enough about DNA by 2001 to know you're probably leaving. Sample's there, he's probably trying to clean it up. That's my guess and he got interrupted. But who on earth could this unknown male, this mystery man be? Well with the help of Lauren Prier and her dad Sandy, police start making a list. There was a somewhere between 18 and 24 men who were identified as people who were family members, friends at a family that on a regular basis went in and out to see whether or not it was their blood, their DNA in the critical crime scene. Could Leslie Prier's killer be somebody that she knew? Someone who had a key, someone who knew that they left the kitchen door open. This is when a new theory emerges. Probably the best working theory now is that he came there to steal something and then the mom Leslie came down, probably in a half state of dress and saw him and it was probably a shriek and he just freaked. Then once he started he couldn't stop. Name by name, person by person, police go through the list. 18 different males, they were all excluded as to source. This case goes cold for almost a decade. It's not until 2010 that detectives reopened it. Every 10 years they put new detectives on a cold case, you don't know what's going to catch a detectives eye. Lauren had mentioned to detectives in 2010 that there was a neighbor who she knew and whenever she was with her mother and she encountered him, he was very flirty with her mother and he was like, oh I see where you get your good looks from to Lauren and that always kind of stuck out in her mind. I thought one of her neighbors did it. She was an oddball. He did some strange things and I thought it was him. They interviewed that individual, they got his DNA and it was not a match. I thought he was eliminated. For the next seven years nothing much happens in this case but it is during this time. when Lauren suffers just another terrible loss. Unfortunately, her father passed away in 2017, never being officially clear. And I can't imagine the weight that would put on someone and how that would affect his health. He died of a broken heart. He was just devastated. He lived for my aunt Penny and I for a very long time. Then he had enough and he was just, he was done. He was never arrested, which goes to the fact that while he was a suspect, there was no linkage or things that really tied him to the murder. As a matter of fact, quite kindly, the DNA that was developed early on would have suggested he didn't have anything to do with it. And sadly, he didn't live to see himself exonerated. Nothing happened for over two decades. They knew there was a unknown DNA sample from a third party and that's kind of all they had for two plus decades. And then in 2022, Lauren gets a call from the Montgomery County Police. The phone rang out of the blue and it was Tara. And she said, hi, my name is Tara. I'm with a co-cate detectives from Montgomery County. She's like, I'm working on your mom's case. I almost fell off the chair. It's been almost 25 years. It's a long time, a long time. And I said, you are? It was just something that I never expected here, ever. And I couldn't believe it. And then she's like, we have a new thing called genealogy. And we're going to try to look into that. And I said, okay. And then it was about a year. It was going to take a long time. It was about 25 people on my list. And I said, okay, I said, wait a minute, I'll wait a year. You're working with a ton of data. You might get a list of matches that could have thousands of names. So Montgomery County Maryland call case detectives. They dig through a mound of data here. And they create a forensic family tree. The unknown male DNA that was found at the crime scene. The best way to describe it is you have the suspects DNA. You've submitted into this database. And you look at their family members. And then by building the family tree of the family members that are there, you can then work backwards. And if they're in the right place in the family tree, then you have a possible suspect match. And this one, we had a couple of particularly high matches. They were from Eastern European descent. We decided, okay, well, let's just work with these high matches and see what we can do. And once we did that within two weeks, we came up with a match that was based out of Romania. Another early woman in Romania, built out a family tree with everybody who was associated with that family. Within that tree, the name Gleegor appears. Gleegor popped up and we had seen it in the case file. So that was a huge red flag. And then knowing that that family lived in this area at the time, that was another reason why it was like, okay, this is a really good match. I heard her. She yelled from across the room. And we'd had a couple like possible before. But this time when she yelled back to me, I was like, oh, this might be. This might be the real deal. So the next step is to get DNA from this person named Gleegor, Eugene Gleegor, to be more exact. Right now, he's out of the country, but he's due back soon. And so they set up a little bit of a ruse at the airport with the assistance of the officials at the airport. They were actually doing a document check. He was coming back from overseas and claiming they were checking the documents. And they just put him in a room that was kind of sterilized with water bottles. Had him fill out a form. And once he had fill out the form, that guy, you're free to go. But stayed enough time to, you know, when he did, he drank from the bottle. Once we got the DNA sample that was covertly collected, we submitted it to the lab that day. And we let them know if you can put a rush on this, this would be great. They put all their efforts towards it. And by the end of the week on Friday, we were able to get a report from them saying that it was a match. After almost 25 years, could Eugene Gleegor be the guy who's a luted police for so long? There's really only one way to find out. That's when the wheels started moving about, "Okay, we gotta find this guy, we gotta arrest him." She called me when he was getting arrested. So they knew they had everything. It wasn't like a hunch. They had DNA blood, skin. It was him. All right, we'll adjust it. We'll adjust it. They're not made for comfort, but we'll make it. Yeah, we'll make it. We'll use it up on it. They ain't got no personality. So you didn't know anything about this warrant? Okay, our boss will tell you everything about it. Thank you. The phone rang again. It was hard. She's like, "Just get a glass of water. I'm gonna tell you something." And I said, "Probably it was like, oh God." And she goes, "Do you know Eugene Gleegor?" I mean, what did I say? I lost my mind. I couldn't believe it. And she was like, "He's the woman killed her mom." I couldn't believe my ears. I had no idea that it was some of that I'd dated. His parents' house was literally a seven-minute walk from my parents' home. I mean, we went to prom together. He went to my parents' house all the time. My mom cooked. He would just be there and I would be at his parents' house. And then we broke up when I was 21. Mutually, it wasn't a bad thing. Three years after we broke up, he killed her. It was horrible. So it was scary. I was scared. Just the horror that he could have done that to somebody that took care of him and opened their house to him. It was just shocking. But looking back on it, nobody suspected a 21-year-old kid who they used to play part cheesy with. It wasn't any suspicion at all in that direction. Because it didn't make sense. As soon as he was under arrest, I called Lauren just to let her know, and then also to get a little bit of information about him before we went into interview him. And I had asked her, you know, please don't put this out there. I'll call you as soon as we're done. We'll give you more information. But just so you know, this is going on. Eugene Ligor is already under arrest when police bring him in for questioning. Hi, I'm Detective Crosston. This is Detective DuPoi. Hey, I'm from Doree County. Okay. I'm sure you're wondering what this is all about. I would really like to know. This has been really, really hard at whatever's happening. Well, we're going to get through all of that with you. I think in the back of his mind, he probably knew this day might come. It's a game. He wanted to find out information from us. We were trying to find out information from him. And, you know, that was apparent that he wanted to know what evidence we had. What is your physical condition today? Are you having any injuries? Are you feeling okay? I mean, I'm feeling a little bit caught off guard. And I'm from the handcuffs. There seems to be a lump on my hand. It was so fake. All of it immediately when he came in. It was a, oh, my wrist hurts from the handcuffs. What was me? I have heartburn and he was just a victim the whole time. We actually work in the cold case unit. We investigate crimes that have been unsolved for quite a period of time. Do you recall back in 2001 Leslie Prayer? Yes, that she was murdered. Okay, so that's the case that we are investigating. So the reason that we wanted to talk to you is because a lot of the people whose names are in the case file, they've been interviewed throughout the years and they've been asked to give DNA samples to compare to DNA from the crime scene. And we realized that they never talked to you, never did anything. And we wanted to find out more about you. And if there was any kind of situation where you could have been at the house at that time. I'm just, I'm a little confused to find out more and talk to me. Why not just call me and ask me to come in and talk to me versus have marshals come and arrest me and bring me in. I'm just confused as to why that's the case. Well, because we needed to talk to you in a controlled environment. environment and because there's a little bit more to it than what we've told you so far. Could you tell me? Well, we're getting there. I'm trying to give you an opportunity to be a little bit forthcoming before we -- I mean, I feel very -- I feel a little bit trapped here, like -- Well, you're under arrest, so you should be trapped. And Gligor is about to find out just how trapped he really is. So, from the crime scene, the DNA that was taken, we actually have a sample of your DNA, and it was compared to the crime scene DNA, and it matched. So, we know that you were there at the time when Leslie died. But I never gave a sample of DNA. When we said, "Well, we have your DNA," we matched it to the crime scene. We know that you were there when Leslie was killed. He said, "You don't have my DNA." And I was like, "Well, actually, we do. It was satisfying." We obtained a sample from a discarded water bottle that you drank out of. So, your DNA matches the crime scene DNA. You know, we know that -- I don't know my DNA being there. That's what we're trying to figure out. So, I don't know. I don't know. You know, I mean, I was in the house, but it was years before. You know, when I dated her. Correct. I don't know. I wish I could tell you. We don't know. I don't know, of course. This is all very bewildering, very strange. Okay, is there more flesh that you're gonna tell me? He was sort of crying without actually physically crying. There's no tears coming out of your face. I'm very dry right now. You're dry? I'm very dry. I'm part of the eye-traded. You can see my eyes are bloodshot red because I'm just tired and drained. I don't know what's going on. You haven't got your water, so I could tear like -- No, I'm not gonna tear you. I don't want you to tear. I just don't want you to say. I'm just trying to say this. This seems a little put on. Are you kidding me? I'm just [bleep] kidding me? No. Oh my God, you're so full of it. You're just your after. His initial response was to cry and then when he realized that that didn't work, because there were no tears coming out of his face. And I told him, I can see that there's no tears coming out of his face. This is put on, like, this isn't a real emotion. Then he started getting angry and that's when he started cussing at us and yelling at us. And he just went through all the emotions and it was just a big show. If there's an alternate explanation, that's why we wanted to talk to you today. Could it have been, you know, an interrupted burglary? Is something happened where you didn't expect anybody to be home? I have no idea. I don't remember in a recall. The biggest thing that I had a problem with was when confronted with anything, he never said, I didn't do that. He said, I don't remember over and over. And I said, if I didn't do that, I would have said, I didn't do that. I wouldn't be saying, I don't remember. I'm really confused and I'm really at a loss and I don't know. I don't have any recollection of being involved with any of this. You keep saying you don't remember and you don't have any recollection. But if somebody was not involved, it would be an adamant, I didn't do it. Oh, I didn't do it. I definitely didn't do it. Like, this is absolutely, I know I didn't do it. I know I wasn't involved. And then that's the only time he said, well, I didn't do it. And I just don't understand how this has come to this. I really wish I knew. And I really wish I could tell you some, give you some answers and give you more feedback from an honest perspective because I just don't know. I just don't know. I don't. I don't know either. That's why we wanted to talk to you. I don't know why your blood is there. Also, I don't know. The only person that knows is Leslie and she can't tell us. At this point, Gligor knows the chicken's up. Okay, so you're saying I need to spend the night here? The original charge in Mr. Gligor was first degree martyr, which carried a maximum penalty of life imprisonment. I think we were all gearing up for a trial and a brutal one where Lauren and others had to relive and see gruesome footage and relive the memories of those early days. But before trial, Gligor makes a move that shocks everyone. And then Eugene, who up until that point, maintained innocence, took a guilty plea for a secondary martyr. There was a lot of input from the family. And I will tell you the family they wanted resolution. They wanted someone to walk into court and say to the entire community, I did this. Because if you have a trial, the jury can say it. It's something else for a person to stand up and publicly say, I took the life of this woman. I think Lauren really did not want to sit through a trial. I think it had been enough, like it had been 20 years of a question. It had been 20 years of grief and of wanting closure. And I think it was just time to make sure it happened. So there's no trial, but there is a sentencing hearing. And this is when Lauren Prier is finally face to face with Eugene Gligor. This is her former boyfriend and the man who murdered her mom. This is when she can finally voice all of those feelings that she has bottled up for nearly 25 years. It's like seeing a ghost. It's scary. He's in shackles. Brutally murdered. My mother. To hear his voice. And to think that I knew you, I dated you and we went to prom together. It was very, very scary, very hunting. [MUSIC] Now, Marilyn Camers aren't allowed in the courtroom, but there are audio recordings. So what we did is we used AI to help visualize what this scene might have looked like. So how was that way? We let you hold your reliance. That's what you did. And a monster arrives right in front of you. This is someone we trusted and he's in a repress. But I'm saying thank you. You have us all full. Scary, terrifying lives. We'll just raise knives. You're a boxer of Wolfenstein's clothing age. I had been next to me. He's my friend and my lawyer. And I just read what I really felt truly in my heart to him. It just felt good to get the words out if that makes sense. And he's an evil person. So he probably didn't even care. But it was helpful to me. She was strong and she let him know he had taken a lot from her and her family, but she hadn't taken everything and she was there to let him know that. And she was still there. I'm still here. I give Lauren a lot of credit for how she handled that moment. Anybody speaking to their mother's killer takes immense courage to do it to the face of somebody who you loved and trusted is a whole other level. Many family members are present today here at the courtroom and on to. And they're here to honor Lesley's memory. They're also here to finally see Justin done after twenty-four years. Justin said they've almost given up over us. Sandy proved to sense the life without his loving life in his best friend. Sandy died to the cloud of murder. So he said murder was such a pain over his head. Lauren murdered who sensed the life without her mother in dearest friend. And sensed a pain in the sorrow to a parent in his long-shoot lips. The fact that the murder was committed by somebody who lived in very close to her. To whom both she and her mother had forgotten to do her family. And to whom she had loved and trusted. I've left it for RGSEX something trail to continue. Today is the day of reckoning. The day of reckoning for this event, I don't want to speak, it's for practicing for years. That was a matter of penalty. The second we were at this time, the next event. We don't believe that there were no rules, three or four for being. At this time Mr. Gleiborne, you do have the absolute right to address the court before I sentence you in this matter. If there is anything that you would like to say to the court, now is your opportunity to do so. You're under, yes I would. You're under. I want to express my deepest regret, shame and remorse for the devastating tragedy that I caused, taking the life of Leslie Preer, and just share my desire to atone for the pain and the suffering that I brought to Lauren, Lauren's father, and Leslie's family and friends. Hearing his voice was horrifying for real. It was like the double speaking. Every time he mentioned my name or my mom's name, I wanted to kill him. It's like a nightmare, it's like a real nightmare. The words devastating tragedy don't fully convey the crime that I committed, murder, or my thoughts and emotions around this horrible event. So I'll do my best to express myself. I'm so very sorry for the misery I caused everyone. He's not given an answer, like I think a lot of people want to know his motive, and he said bits and pieces here and there, but I think we still don't really know. I'll ask Mr. Igor if he'd please stand face the court for your punishment and sentence in this case. Sir, it will be the sentence of this court that the court will sentence you to 30 years in division of corrections. I will suspend. Thank you. Please, please. I will suspend all the 22 years of that sentence. That sentence will have five years of supervised probation upon your release. 22 years, I'm okay with that. Because if he'd gone to trial, there would have put in a better possibility he could have gotten off. But I'm okay, 22 years is going to be almost 70. That's a long time to be in prison. She was brave. She wanted the judge to know, and her mom to see her there. Her and her father looked down and knew she was there to find this injustice happened. That in my letter when I was talking to the judge or I think my very last words were, "You almost got away with it." And he did. And he would have, if it wasn't for the genealogy, he would have gotten away with it. There's a lot of work. Magnifs would work by the two women who headed this investigation with Montgomery County Police. They did an extraordinarily good and thorough job to do this. There were a lot of ups and downs, and it took a long time, but in the end, it was ultimately a success, and we were very pleased with it. It was a miracle. Literally. I hope that the other family is that are dealing with very old cold case files that give some hope, definitely. What an emotional rollercoaster of a case, right? It starts with a terrible personal murder for which there's no explanation, but in the end, there is also hope, and it is thanks to three amazing women here. Lauren Prier, who never gave up and those cold case detectives who you could say went to the ends of the earth to find her an answer. I had my parents picture sitting in my guest bedroom, and I said, "One day, I promise we're going to get it solved, and now if I could just say to them, we got justice."