Mom's Car: Jonathan Tucker

Welcome to Mom's Car. I'm Dax Shepard. I am Aaron Beekman. And today we have on Jonathan Tucker. And the beautiful irony of this is the last time we interviewed Jonathan Tucker, he was also in a car. He was in a 87 Cadillac Coupe de Ville. What a stud. Who gives an interview in a car like that? You know him from Westworld, City on a Hill, our favorite. Kingdom. The Virgin Suicides, Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And he is in the new runaway hit with Jon Hamm called American Hostage. It's tasty. Please enjoy Jonathan Tucker. This episode is brought to you by Allstate. Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking the dress code at the new restaurant, showing up in sandals and getting turned away at the door. No fun at all. Yeah, checking first is always a good move. So check Allstate first for an auto quote. It could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings. Very subject to terms, conditions, and availability. 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Oh, no, but I've had all time serves their bread. Yeah, they do great work there. You should go there sometimes. It's really good work. Are we recording this? Yeah, we are. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm on the record. I'm on the record. Maybe I should slow down and not let people see the hyper caffeinated. No, I think that's definitely part of your charm. Really quick, because this is going to be the most ADHD conversation. And that's what it's going to be. We'll just embrace that. But don't you love that now this will be the second time I've interviewed you. Both times you were in a vehicle. That's true. Do you recall that? Yeah, because I was in COVID. And you were in your Coupe de Ville. Yeah, and I didn't even appreciate the loss of not having the chance to go to your studio. Okay, well, we'll also do that. Yeah, but I'm just saying, I was like, yeah, this is how people always do it. They go to somewhere private, and then they. They get in their 86 Coupe de Ville. What year is that Coupe de Ville? I love that car. It was an 87 or 87? Okay, wait, so she's not with us anymore? No, I didn't tell you what I did with it? No. All right, so I bought the car because I was shooting in Vancouver. It just was like one. On this incredible car. It was so fucking beautiful. Red interior, as I recall. Red interior and a white, kind of off-white exterior. It's just so beautiful. And the transpo team took it for like two weeks and just made it showroom quality. The interior is perfect. And so I drove it. Really quick, look back at Tucker. He looks like he's, when they interview someone who does not want their identity known. It's like he caps them below your nose. I'm Whitey Bolger. The biggest, yeah, biggest sunglass. This is available. I'm on the prowl. I'm always, I feel like I'm going to like pull a weapon out and like start firing off the side with my two getaway drivers. I got a wheel man on the left and I got Michigan's finest on the right, ready to go. Two of my Michigan's finest slash wars. Okay, so transpo put a real shine on it. They really did. So I drove the car for like six months during COVID and it was just awesome. Yeah. And then at the end, I'm like, so what am I going to do? Am I going to go on Craigslist and like try to resell this thing and like have to show it a bunch and answer questions. And so I, at the end, I'm like, so what am I going to do? Am I going to try to sell this thing? No, I'm not going to bring it back to LA cause I don't want to deal with all the customs and imports and fees and all the mess that that was. You know, I've got two, two year old twins in the middle of COVID. So I went to buy the biggest bow I could possibly find. Like one of those bows that they show on crisis, right? An Alexis commercial or a. Crap. A Mercedes Christmas commercial. And I went to the back to the Canadian DMV and I got all the title or whatever. And I, uh, put everybody's name in the hat on the crew. And I stood up at the end of the show with a bottle of champagne. And I pulled the name out and I gave the car away. That's great. Cause obviously the crew is local. They're Canadian. So they don't got to export the car either. I have never in my life ever felt so great. Magnanimous. If I'm giving, giving a car away. And the car didn't, car cost a few thousand dollars. Sure. Sure. Canadian. Well, do you recall what department one? Yeah, of course it was her birthday. She turned 29. It was, and it was the hair and makeup girl. Where's the Starby's? Oh, it's right there. All right. We go. And look at what a fucking dump this place. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Aaron, look what a clunker this is. Oh my God. Isn't it in a trash dump? I just thought we were in an old Western town. Yeah. This is the main sign that shitty fucking wood. Fucking offensive. Cowboys. That's the power of Uber though. It can get us. The Gene Autry strip mall. Stopped at a brothel for a quick. You missed. We almost got T-boned. Yeah. I heard the ruckus going on when I got up. You stopped and played a quick round of five cards. Yeah. I got challenged to a duel. Foo, foo, foo. So, you know, I'm very familiar with this on-demand process in which we are currently engaging in service of other people. How so? I am currently a wag and rover walker. What's that? What's a wag and a rover? So here's, you don't know the wag app or rover app? No. All right. So if I was to ask somebody, they'd say, oh, it's like for dog walking. Oh, okay. You open up your app, you click. And you want your dog walked. Correct. Okay. Somebody's going to show up in your house who's vetted, who's going to walk your dog. Uh-huh. For half an hour or an hour or whatever. And it's a minimal, you know, it's a small fee. Nominal. Correct. Okay. Well, it depends how much money you make, but yeah, nominal fee. Relative. Okay. Relative. Some people are scratching, you know, dives together. So, um, so I am doing this show in New York and it's a real toxic environment. I'd never really been a part of a toxic environment before. Okay. And I was, my wife was pregnant. She's in LA. I'm in New York. Real bad work situation. I'm being gaslit. Gaslit made me feel badly about myself. Okay. And, uh, and I'm commuting back and forth and my dogs are in LA and I'm just lonely, bro. And I don't get lonely very often. Okay. Thanks so much for me holding it. What did you do? I can't see what's happening. We got it. We got it. We got one. We got one. We got a fish. We got a fish. We got a hook. Yeah, we got one on the hook. We got one on the hook, man. We got one. Real event. Nice and easy. Nice and easy. Don't freak him out. Too fast. Don't text him right away and be like, oh, we're really excited. Don't freak him out. Don't freak him out. We should be fun as our texting, be like, oh, I'm so happy you ordered. We're so excited to deliver the food. We can't wait, yeah, to be suspicious if we were too excited. It's like, we're thinking about it. We'd like to deliver it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're still considering your request. Okay, so you're having a bad time. You're lonely in New York. Yeah, I don't get lonely. And I'm not like, I don't get lonely, you know? Yeah. But I'm just in a bad place. Did you feel alienated from the cast? Is that what it was? I didn't feel alienated, but I felt very alone. Right. On set. Yeah. And frustrated. Anyways, I realized that the inverse of WAG and Rover is that you can open up an app and you can pick a dog for half an hour to play with. Oh, no shit. This was your solution to feeling shitty. Yeah. I'm like, I can just open up the app and like, grab a dog. I love this. Yeah. I'm going to go grab the food. Go get the food. But I fucking love this story. You're going to miss out on something. That's something you would benefit from, Aaron, greatly. So I'm like, I'm in New York. I'm having like a great dinner with a friend. Yeah. At the end of dinner, I open up my app. I order a cappuccino. I'm a little full. I ate too much pasta. Okay. And I'm going to work tomorrow, like, four in the morning. But it's, you know, I open up and then I just start swiping. Which dog am I going to get right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, and you can actually see a picture of the dog. You get the picture, descriptions. Oh, this is fun. You get the whole details and what their previous walks were like. Oh, there's feedback on the dog. Feedback. You leave feedback as the walker. Okay. So there I am. I just go. I'm like, all right. I walk like a block or two and I pick up a dog. Well, are you looking for a big dog or a little dog? It depends on the mood that night, dude. I like variety. Okay, sure. Who doesn't? Yeah, novelty. We love novelty. Yeah, exactly. With my wife, I like exactly what I get with my wife. But with the dogs, I want to see it all. I want to see it all eat and I want all of it, okay? So I just walk like a block or two. I grab a dog. Yeah. And then I'd give the dog a walk. I'd walk off the food. Yeah. I'd take a photo on the park bench, send it to my wife. Uh-huh. And it was just great. I'm like, this is great. How many dogs do you think you walked? Oh, 30, 40, 50 dogs, yeah. Wow, that's really fast. That's fun. You meet at curbside. Yeah, that's not happening. Do you want me to take a look? Should we? Do you want to give it a look? Yeah, I'll give it a look. And don't forget, you know, you want to say with the ties, you say, So what do you call it? All right, I'm a little embarrassed. We're delivering drugs. Here we go. Are we delivering drugs? I hope. It's a very tiny package. All right, we have not told one succinct story. I'm going to force us to right now. Okay, we talked about the Cadillac. Love it. And your daily driver now is what? It's a 2011 Ford Crown Victoria P71 Police Interceptor. Cop suspensions, cop brakes, cop lights, cop engine, cop everything. Cop, cop, cop, cop, cop. Thing runs. Okay, so Aaron and I got the most spectacular invitation. I don't know. Are you familiar with this YouTuber, Cletus McFarlane? Have you ever seen his stuff? He does crazy car stuff. He'll buy a Lamborghini and jump it over a house. You know, he just does wacky stuff. Well, he's been very successful, and he bought this old racetrack in Bradenton, Florida. And so we are participating in November in a Crown Vic only race. What? Crown Vic's across the board? It's a whole field is Crown Vic's, and it's an oval with a little infield chicane. And it's, I think, a two-hour long race. What? And you have to have two drivers. So what? We'll swap drivers at some point. Does that not sound like the most spectacular thing? Dax. Yes. Does he know that I am an. Does he know who I am? How do I get in front of this guy? Do you know who I am? I'm the only actor in L.A. who drives Crown Vic's. I'm a fleet owner-operator of this vehicle. It's the backbone of the municipal fleet in America. It's the strength of our country in the form of an automobile, and I support it in real ways. Also, like, any vehicle that was designed with the intention. I remember we'd go to these police package conferences, these fleet shows, and they'd be explaining, like, you know, the car was designed to take a curb at 35 miles an hour without doing any damage to the upper control arms. And you're like, yeah, that's the kind of vehicle I want. That's what I want. It was designed to smash into a curb. Yeah. It's just a great car. I feel very American driving, and I love it. Okay. Now, we want the full story. We had the biggest laugh in months this morning when I discovered, this KCAL 9 footage of you. You've got to walk me through June 2024. This is the home invasion? Yes. Yes! What do you mean? Of course it is. I'm glad you laughed. I'm thinking, like, what was that KCAL 9 for a few years ago? Yeah, that was an unexpected. Hold on, hold on. First, let's start with, this is a childhood dream come true. When you're a kid and you're watching. Hold on. It's not. Listen, Tucker, before you get defensive. Yeah, sure. When you're. Sure. When you're a kid and you're watching the news and you find out there was a hero in your town, you're like, fuck, I wish I could be this hero. Oh, dear. Tell me what happened. I can already sense a little hesitation. Yeah. All right. Well. Look how reluctant. If I had done what you did, that's all I would talk about. I mean, I did notice you weren't available for comment, so I figured there was. I was wondering why that was, too. I guess here's what happened. Okay. So there's. You know, we live in a really lovely town. It's a lovely neighborhood. It's super family-oriented. Yeah. Kids everywhere. Doors open. It's, like, idyllic. We also live in L.A., and there's, you know, there's. A lot of riffraff. There's some riffraff. Yeah. And I was inside, and, like, I heard something. I could hear, like, a kid or something. I was like, that doesn't. I could hear it outside. I was like, that doesn't sound like playing. It sounded like something concerning. Yes. So I talked to my wife. I was like, hold on a sec. And I put my head out the front door and look out. I'm like, yeah, there's. Something's up. Like, I just said something. Something's up. Spidey senses are going off. And I see, like, a neighbor's looking, like, you know, halfway down the block is looking across the street. So I kind of peek my head out, and then I see that there's this, like, very big guy. Big guy. Yeah. Yeah. We saw the footage. He's a large man. Walking down the street, and he turned into somebody's house. And I know the folks. It's an older woman. Her husband passed away. And he comes up to it, and I turn to my neighbor. I'm like, what's going on? He's like, this guy's really angry. And he starts banging on this woman. This door. Very, very aggressively. Very aggressively. And, like, I turn to the guy. Right away, I was like, listen, I'm going to do everything. I don't want to provoke this situation, right? This guy. I'm hoping she doesn't open the door. But if she does open the door, and I'm unable to, like, signal to her, will you go in with me? Yeah, yeah. Because I really don't want, obviously, something bad to happen. I know this woman. Yes. And this guy was awesome. He's like, yeah, absolutely. Right. You go first, but I, yes, I'll be behind you. I'll watch. So he's banging, banging, banging, banging. And she opens up the little window thing. So I'm behind her. I'm kind of like, okay. Okay. And so she doesn't open the door. Awesome. Great. So then he continues going down. And I was just like, let me just track this guy. Sure. To make sure that this doesn't happen again. So me and this other neighbor, he walks with me down the street. And then he goes to some other houses. Nobody opens their door. Great. And then he goes off. By that point, we'd already called 911. Okay. And reported this. And he has it for a timeline. Like, what do you think the gap between when you call 911 and when they arrive, right? Because it's always impressive. The police were incredible. They were absolutely magnificent. It's everything you ever want from law enforcement. So this guy's banging. He turns off. He goes on to Highland. And we're like, all right. He's off my block. He's out of your jurisdiction. I think we did everything we did, right? Like, we called the police. We gave a description. We made sure the people were safe. I don't, I feel like I did my part, you know? Let that be. I go back in the house. About 10, 15 minutes later, I go back out for something else. And I hear another thing. And I look down the other side. So he'd gone, gone. Basically done a huge loop. And he's coming down the block. So now I see other people are walking dogs. So I try to tell those people, like, hey, can you go to the other side of the street? Let's just let this guy clear through. Sure. This guy looks like he's. Something's up. Yeah. Now I'm watching, kind of watching. Just to make sure everything's fine. And he's standing in front of this neighbor's house across the way. And I turn to the other neighbors now across the street. He's come out. I say, hey, do you know who lives in that house? And he's like, yeah, I know them well. I say, just call and just make sure that they're, like, their doors are locked. And do you know if anyone's home? He's like, yeah. He's like, yeah, I know the wife's home. With children, right? Yeah. Yeah, the wife's home. And I assume they have kids. I can't remember. And then I turn back, and the guy's gone. He couldn't have gone anywhere but in the house. Right, right. And, you know, I just took off. You're barefoot. I think this is an important part of the story. Yeah, I'm barefoot. Because that's a very similar experience. I mean, I just. You're never really. You have fantasies about how you'd respond, but you're never really in the right outfit. Yeah, I'm not in tactical gear. When the situation actually. Really presents itself. I wanted to be in SWAT gear, yeah. You seem to have a tactical bag with you, though. Yeah. I grabbed the bag. Yeah. I grabbed the bag. And that'll remain a mystery like Pulp Fiction, right? We'll never know what was in the bag. Thank God I did. I just sprinted across the street. Went through the door. And you're by yourself at this point. Yeah, by myself. Yeah. And the mom is holding her, like, you know, baby. And she's freaking out. Sure. And she doesn't know who I am, really. All right. Um, I'm just a guy busting into her house. With a bag in your bare foot. But somebody else is just busted through her house. Yeah, yeah. And he's three times my size and significantly unhappy. Noticeably unhappy. So I'm just, I was actually, like, pretty clear-headed because I was like, you know, where is he? And are there other kids? Do you have kids in the house? Like, who else is in the house? And she's hyperventilating. She's like, my kids are in the house. Oh, man. And I'm like, where are their kids? How many are there? How many are there? How many are there? Well, she goes, nine. Yeah, yeah. And in my neighborhood, it's possible. But she goes, there's two. And I said, where are they? I see one of them out of my eye. I grab that guy and I throw it to the mom. And I get out of the house, get out this way. I'm like, get out, get out, get out, get out. And then I had to go find the kids. I had to start going through these rooms. Thankfully, I didn't see the guy. And I found the girl. She's hiding. She's a mess. Yeah. And she doesn't know, you know, who I am. And I'm starting to talk to her. And I'm like, hey, it's okay. There's somebody, you know, who's here. And then I realize, I'm like, I'm a 40-year-old man talking to, like, a 7-year-old. Uh-huh. So I just grabbed her and, like, firemaned her out of the house. Well, this is the shot we see on KKL 9. You come out of the house barefoot holding a child. Yeah. It was really, dude, I got to tell you, it was not funny. It was horrifying. But it's so heroic. I don't know. You know, it sounds like such a trope. But, like, you're not even thinking. You're just like, there's a kid. I got to save this kid. I got to get this kid out. Right, right. And you don't want to provoke any. It's violent. So, like, I don't want any interaction with anybody. I just want to get all these people out of the house safe, you know? Yes, yes. And the cops were there once. So I called again when I was running to the house. And I'm like, this is not a guy wandering the neighborhood. We have a man in this house. Here's the address. He's just entered the home. There's kids. There's going to be a family in the home. Like, we need people to run away. Yeah, yeah. And they were there. By the time I got out of the house, I think they were already pulling up. Uh-huh. So then it's like, let these professionals do their job. Right. And they were incredible. Well, I see it's heavy. But I do wish you had a little bit of pride. It's pretty fucking radical. Yeah, I don't know, Dash. I think, like, you do the exact. I think, like, you know, there's. Well, I think I would, too. Most husbands I know will do the exact same thing. But then I would feel good about it. All right. Now I deliver this. That's what happens. Now I go deliver. Okay, great. Stay tuned for more Mom's Car. We are supported by Allstate. Not checking your bag one more time. One more time before you hit the road. You pack two days early. You are proud of yourself. You get to the hotel, open your bag, and you forgot your toothbrush. And your deodorant. Yeah. Checking first is an excellent idea. Potential savings vary subject to terms, conditions, and availability. Allstate, North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. Did you get another? No, I just had to wait for her to come down because there wasn't an apartment number. Tucker, my experience is similar to this. Crown back, by the way. Oh, hello. Yeah, a little bit of. sun stain on the paint job but uh okay so i i lived in santa monica for 10 years in this very shitty apartment on a rough street all right in santa monica if you can imagine that it's called euclid and my girlfriend of nine years who lived with me there she called me the sheriff of euclid because like you i'm i'm like uh always sniffing around like what's happening i'm just you know you're paying attention you're aware this is back to your outfit yeah so it's a very memorable day because i was a very heavy smoker and i decided okay i'm gonna quit smoking so this is the day i quit i'm on day one of nicotine withdrawal yes i'm very irritable and agitated and i literally just make it to night time i'm like okay i got through day one i lay down in bed with brie i'm wearing these um heart pajama bottoms that my mom sent me for valentine's day obviously i'm barefoot and obviously i'm shirtless i'm going to bed and i'm laying there and all of a sudden we hear like blood curdling screaming coming from right on the other side of the window on the street and i'm like oh fuck i jump up and you need to know the family that lived below me was this um lovely mexican family that at this point i've seen some of the kids grow up from like eight years old i go to their parties you're a quinceanera there's like six folks living in the same one bedroom apartment i adore these people i run down my stairwell i come around the corner of our apartment building and i see there's a car parked and two of the kids that are from there they're now teenagers um one kid's in the driver's seat holding his nose just blood pouring down his face and then in the passenger seat the other kid is being pulled through the window by this dude tucker i already had a mix-up with three years before he's in a gang the santa monica trace say they live two apartment buildings over and so i already that dude tried to mug me and i already fought that guy three years before police came that's its own story that's 25 minutes long wait do you see this sound by the way do i see what if you lease there you get a 350 a month uber credit oh oh my gosh pretty good branding opportunity also you're so hd i love it oh well we're doing a random sign to pick up we're doing is this show not sponsored by uber if you say adhd i'm like i'm looking to hit up our sponsors who are underwriting underwriting this opportunity i mean what are we doing here okay so so tucker he's in the middle of pulling this dude out the window right and then the young girl's in the back seat screaming i'm in my pajama bottoms i'm shoeless and i scream at him i go hey i'm gonna fucking teach you a lesson because i already i already did this i already taught a lesson and i quit smoking that day right so i'm actually really in the mood to teach someone a lesson he sees me he lets go of the guy he takes off sprinting down euclid towards broadway i take off after him obviously the cops have been called when i heard the screaming the people downstairs also heard so cops have already taken off right i don't know any of this but he takes off flying i'm trying to catch him and as i'm coming up to turn left onto broadway the police car flies up on the sidewalk and they've gotten a call that some maniacs beating up people and they see me sprinting shirtless with my pajama bottoms on you're on the hood of the car i'm on the ground immediately i'm on the ground they're out guns on the ground but as i'm complying i'm going dude i'm not you got the wrong dude dude he's getting away he's getting away and they've heard that a million times so i have to just chill for you know 60 seconds before i convince those people and then also the neighbors are now coming down the street and they're yelling it's not him and so the funniest part of the story is when they finally let me get up and they're like okay what do you look like and i'm like you know he's like he's probably five ten five nine you know he's latino but and i all of a sudden i go oh i have a picture of him and they go you have a picture of him because when i had that altercation with them and the police came they took photographs of us and i got the photos from the police station and they're in my toolbox upstairs and i go yeah i have pictures of him so the cops walk me back to my apartment they come up i go in my toolbox these pictures are you've never seen he looks like he got hit by a fucking bread truck right he had he had a broken nose a broken jaw he is a mess in these photos and when i hand the police the photos of this guy they start laughing so fucking hard they're like wait a minute what are these why what happened and i gotta tell them the whole story and they're just in the best mood when i hand them these pictures they take the pictures i don't know they go drive around for a couple hours and then they finally come back and give me the pictures now yeah we didn't find them but i thought you were gonna be in cuffs and you were like and you're gonna be like just give me a square i just need one smoke here before you gotta light me up but again i just not what i would want to be in a combat situation in my heart-shaped pajamas and barefoot that's funny yeah you always want to be well it's like when i proposed to my wife i made sure she thought we were going to like the fanciest restaurant in new york i took her to john's pizzeria on bleaker street but the premise was you're going to like jean george or something because i was told that when you propose to your wife you want her well she's going to want to be really well dressed uh right you don't want to propose to her like on christmas morning when she's in the christmas pan yeah she looks you know like she just woke up so you know you want to put people in a position to look their very best at high points and low points yeah in their life and like my past you know what you're saying my passport photo is me in a tuxedo oh really because i'm like i'm gonna have this thing for 10 years oh this is why you're such a good actor you the details yeah you really are specific about the details i had a i had a driver's license for 10 years where i had a wife beater on and like a black eye and like a gold and the thing just looks sick it was so you take her to the pizzeria and you propose to her there i proposed in central park oh okay she thought we were going to this fancy restaurant and um we proposed there and then you know i had all of her friends meet us at john's pizzeria on bleaker street and uh and she looked like a million bucks she was thrilled with how she looked oh that's lovely and how long you guys went together now we've been married for 14 years okay and how long were you dating before you took her to joe's before okay so you've been together like 16 years you know people said like you know you'll know when you know uh-huh but when i first met her i knew she was special like very special like she'd be a friend of mine for the rest of my life she's very special but i didn't know for quite some time that she'd be my wife but i did have this moment when i do one moment i was like this is the woman i'm going to marry you know how they have all these like kind of like mini award shows before the academy awards and the emmys and order awards uh-huh kind of like lower tier award ceremonies i've been asked to give one for somebody an award so i wrote my own copy instead of their introduction i did my own introduction uh-huh the award and so when i presented it it was a huge hit like i mean i just hit a home run okay with this dialogue okay people are loving the dialogue and they're like the award ceremony was terrible you were so great that was so funny so i'm feeling great about myself and that same asked me to do another award ceremony that was like a next tier up okay to present to somebody because i crushed it yeah yeah so i'm like hey i took the leather off the ball on that one i'm gonna write my own copy again so i write my own copy for this award ceremony and i come into the awards and and i came with tara my wife now but she's my girlfriend at the time yeah it's like a mini academy awards like it's just like incredible every table is like an academy award for that year and i'm feeling very confident because i got this great dialogue because you're one for one i'm building a streak did you wear the same socks or anything so i show up and i didn't give the copy to the um to the teleprompter you know and i should because i why didn't you do that i didn't occur to me because you know i was one for one so and i should have no like every person who went up there is like super famous and they're they're like wow it's so bright you know under these lights it should have been a good tip off i get up there and i can't i can't see a thing okay and the copy i've written and printed it out it's like you know 11 size like how new york times roman can't see the font oh boy does your heart rate immediately like do you know you're fucked immediately i know i'm kind of fucked immediately but then but there's no feeling like it is there well then the jokes i have are awesome if i set them up you know they're offensive it was offensive and it was terrible who's in the audience like can you name some people oh like you know it's like the hurt locker table it's like oh it's like okay i mean everyone you want to work with everybody you want to work with in hollywood who every single one who's going to the awards that year every single one is there and i'm like the least famous person there but i'm the guy who like gave a who had one good presentation and i know these people too like there's a lot of people that i know it's like sure i wasn't looking for it as an opportunity but i certainly wasn't looking to for be a liability right right i mean setbacks yeah and i walked up so confidently and when i came back down there i was just like I couldn't believe it dude, it was so bad. and heat you're feeling in your face oh I'm sweating it's a mess I wish there was video of this I would love to see this I want to watch it a bunch of times I remember too the joke was something about like so you know when you're shooting film television a lot of people's names are their first name and then their job so you'd be like oh yeah like Johnny Props oh right right you know there's an art deck yeah yeah right so I made this joke about something around that and like I can't remember what it was but it came across like they were somehow less than sure you were there to shit on the crew yeah which is the last thing I know you really pride yourself oh my gosh you know all the transpo guys of course it's just horrifying right so it's just a horrifying event and I sit down and Tara puts her hand on my lap and she's like something like I love you or you did great or whatever it was or I'm so happy to be here with you yeah I was like I'm gonna marry you that's it right cause when that's it yeah I'm gonna marry this woman you found out that she was stand by you oh my gosh in that room at that time oh my god man did it get tough it was horrible I've had a couple of those cause obviously I've had to come out and present a lot of awards and this and that I had one where my urologist no no not my urologist my rheumatologist rheumatologist yeah was being honored you know by some lifetime some society thing yes and he's an older man right and he's proud that you're the one doing it because you're his like celebrity client yeah one of his celebrity clients and I think he's he's ascertained that I'm a little bright right so he's feeling confident to ask me and I'm like yes I'd love to family's there big event his colleagues are there I so dramatically underestimated what the mean age would be in the audience sure I'm like yeah I know he's 87 but I can't imagine this whole ball is gonna be all 87 year olds in Tucker it was 100% everyone was over 80 yeah and I had a couple of mildly racy steamy sex jokes sure um yeah completely tanked I mean just the whole thing debts out yeah and I remember I had ridden my motorcycle to the thing to avoid parking and traffic it was such a lead balloon everything I said they thought I was just a dirty pervert I shamed my rheumatologist you brought shame to him I did on his night of celebration yeah he's supposed to be honored I come in and just whatever jokes that would have worked in other places did not work not one of them one of them worked and I haven't prepared much sincerity because how sincere can you be about your rheumatologist you know I appreciate him but we haven't been through a lot yeah yeah yeah you haven't been through the ups and downs anyways I just get on my motorcycle and I have this feeling I go yeah man that one you shit the bed and there'll be others and some you'll shit the bed and some you'll do good and I just decided we're just gonna dump this right out of our head yeah that's great on the ride home that's great they can't all be winners and we just gotta let it go you know you should've said that because like I have these interactions you should've said it out loud going back to the truth conversation like if I'm like at a wedding you know a cocktail party or something you know you have these like small talk you know a lot of times I'm like well Dax it was really nice to meet you I had a great conversation with you I feel like this was a good interaction yeah let's leave it on a high note and uh drinks on the air you know like I like to like have a nice or you'd be like you know I think this is a good time for us to maybe end the conversation because I feel like we're hitting we're hitting all the big highlights and points let's leave it here and we'll feel good about each other you feel good about me I like to recap with how that they know how successful the exchange was stay tuned for more Mom's Car we are supported by Uber Eats saving money doesn't have to mean settling for less with Aldi on Uber Eats you can stock up on everyday essentials and Aldi favorites at prices that are easy on your wallet from meal prep staples to household must haves Aldi makes it easy to get what you need without overspending check out all that Aldi has to offer for yourself on Uber Eats delivered in as little as 25 minutes get $10 off your first Aldi order of $40 plus on Uber Eats with code Aldi Mom's Car terms apply see app for details we would be remiss if we didn't collectively tell you how much we loved Kingdom and particularly you on Kingdom yes Aaron is that one of your top five characters of all time I mean yeah it was the first show Dax told me to watch when I got sober went away for a couple months came back and um cause Aaron hadn't watched TV for a decade yeah and I hadn't watched anything and now I find myself at that time a little weary of even leaving the house yeah yeah you were vulnerable and man I watched that fucking show and was obsessed and then of course you don't know me but I immediately thought oh well maybe I can start drinking again and then be a badass and get up in the morning and I was telling Dax how I was feeling about this show and he's like no no no he's like you took the wrong message away you can't drink like that and wake up in the morning you're never gonna look like Frank Gorilla on the each day and you cannot you don't look anything like that we can get you there though I've got a great gym right there where Dax lives but my god that was yeah you might have been one of my first follows on Instagram because I created an Instagram account soon after that and I've been following you ever since I was like this dude's fucking radical I mean look it's really it's like so gratifying to hear that because we worked so hard yeah on that show do you have any sorrow it was so worthy of the kind of attention that many roles get when the show's like widely available and everyone sees it like it was so worthy you were so worthy of an Emmy you were so worthy of a lot of attention yeah it is a little it's more heartbreaking now than it was kind of after just because you really want people to see the work yes and especially what you did it was such a commitment and you're so fucking good thank you I really appreciate it I mean you are such a better actor than me it's astounding it's like it's almost funny that we'd get introduced and we'd say we had the same job no I know I disagree with that entirely I think you're a wonderful actor and you're also I think you're a wonderful actor and I wish you did more of it as Aaron and I were saying you've become so successful that you're able to get a neck tattoo that's the sign that's the sign of real success you know and ironically I feel like for you from Michigan there was two versions of the guy from Michigan with the neck tattoo there's the guy who's like I'll always be a GM delivering fleet vehicles which by the way is an honorable awesome job absolutely I don't know how honorable we were but it's an honest job it's an honest job and then there's the guy who's like no no no if I get the neck tattoo it'll prohibit me from moving up to other things where I might be able to have more success in other professions right and then there's Dax Shepard who gets so successful he's like ah we're gonna flip it back I'm getting the neck I dare you to not hire me well this sleeve was definitely that Tucker it was my kind of weird decoration because of course I would have wanted to continue to get tattoos but then it was such a pain in the ass yeah for makeup I stopped right yeah and then to get to a place financially I'm okay I'll be okay I don't have to be presentable to this thing anymore I don't need to be picked anymore oh my god it felt so liberating I kind of went a little wild I felt like I was reclaiming my real Dax other than just actor Dax but that Dax is what every actor needs to have anyways that's the thing that people miss right it's like if you are not wholly yourself if you're thinking it's about getting picked versus being the fullness of who you are and what your experiences are in the world then you don't get to be the actor you want to be yeah it's the kind of actors who end up having like their back up against the wall that get to do extraordinary work yeah like these Michael K. Williams these people you can tell have had real lives yeah I mean Martin Luther you know standing there in front of the church draws a line in the sand he says here I stand I can do no other and like you have to get to that point so like the irony is is that you broke through a certain fear and said I can get the tattoo now but really that's what you need to do anyways before you even reach that point yeah that's what you want when somebody comes into a room to audition for you for a role you want somebody who's like wow that's wild that's unique I just know that I feel that you are very worthy of having a Sam Rockwell persona like what you need is to have be a show like Kingdom that goes onto a streaming platform that people can watch to your point so that's what I really am desperate to have and I think you know I haven't really like expressed this but I have noticed in the past few years like there's two kinds of people that I work with who are in like business for me those who have gotten a chance to see Kingdom and those who haven't like those who have seen it are like oh they understand and I can do something beyond what is being presented but I think you know you just have to keep here's these signs from Rahershal Ali like am I so impatient that I'm gonna quit or that I'm not gonna continue or get resentful or get resentful totally no I just gotta be like grateful for the health of my family you know like I could be going to Children's Hospital which is up here this Children's Hospital we go a lot you do? we do yeah we do like Christmas events oh yeah great but you don't go for your daughters we've luckily never had to take our children you don't want to be going there fighting for parking at 6.55am knowing that the entire parking garage there is filled by 7am for people who are coming from all over the world to get their kids their 6th round of chemotherapy treatment so like if you wake up and your kid's not getting chemo it's all encompassing I mean you've made a lot of money but money doesn't mean anything when your kid kid is sick. It's like, you'd give up every single dollar for your daughter to be healthy. So I think if you start at that base level, yeah, you want people to see the work that you've done. And the thing that's frustrating is it's hard to find roles that are as well written and that give you the freedom that that role Jay Kulina did on Kingdom. So it's like, you know that those are limited. Yeah, they don't come along a lot. So that's the frustration. It's like, I only get a few of those hits. Yeah. You know, that writer Byron Blasco and I, I think he's maybe the best writer in the business. He wrote Kingdom. He wrote Kingdom and ran that show. And I know that we'll get to work together again. But I just, I love acting. I just love it so, I love the process so much. The freedom that it gives you. We watched American Hostage this morning. Oh, yeah, the first two episodes. First episode. I'm not in the first two. Yeah, so I was sad about that. But I'll immediately say, it's a fucking great show. Dude, you're on another great show. Yeah, this past few years, like I was looking at the business and after we had the strike and everything. And, you know, I just said, I can hold out for certain things. Yeah. Or I can just go join this sort of like, really cool projects with great cast and great people. Uh-huh, that would be insane. And maybe it's not the same role. Like, I don't get that same role. Yeah, yeah. But by like, an awesome role, I'm thrilled with what we did. Yeah. That show felt like being, American Hostage felt like being a part of like a theater company. Oh, it did. Everybody was so, yeah, everybody was so committed to what they were doing. And also, and this is something you don't really know unless you're in the business. Oftentimes, there's this weird jockeying that can happen for like power and position. Yeah. In a cat, in a large ensemble, of which I want nothing to do with that. Right. I want nothing to do with that. I just want to do awesome work with awesome people. Yeah. But you get into the press side of things and people can get weird. Yeah. You know, they want to literally stand in a certain position for photos and stuff. And you're like, I don't want to fight for this. Yeah. And on that show, everybody knew what they were doing, what they were up for. Everybody was super supportive. Also, everyone's been validated. Totally. Right? Yeah, man. That's what you really want. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, everyone's already been validated, so we can move past that. And you know the role you're getting on to. Yeah. What's Minka doing? She's on that Ransom Canyon show, which is a huge show. Didn't they just cancel it? They just canceled it weirdly, but it was huge. Josh Timmel's the best. He is the best. Did we talk about him? Did I tell you about him flying with the Thunderbirds? Oh my God, maybe you did. Tell me, though. So I went up with the Thunderbirds. OK. And they were like, we came down. I said, how'd I do? And they go, oh, you were the best we've ever had. You took the most Gs, the most Gs. No, really. You know, you're the most Gs, the best. I don't know, I'm feeling great. And then they go, oh, no, no, no. Actually, that's not true. Oh, OK. That's not true. Yeah. You're the second best. And I was like, what? Hey, buddy, this is out of celebrities. This is out of celebrities, so the bar is low, right? Yeah, well, sure, sure. It's like winning the celebrity golf tournament. Correct, correct, yeah. So I said, who was the first? Who was the best celebrity? They said, Josh Timmel. I said, you're kidding me. Sure. What did you do with Josh? You didn't do with me. And they go, we did everything. We did everything with Josh that we did with you. But when we got out of the plane-- And by the way, you feel like real, woozy. Sure, dude. Well, after you did it, you're like, dude, you got to do this. I'm like, never. It was incredible. I don't want to fucking throw up in a fucking face mask. It was incredible. Yeah, it was amazing. I didn't do that, so it was amazing. So they go, Josh Timmel came out of the plane. And we asked him how he was doing, and he's doing great. And then he pulled an entire thing of dip out of his lip. Oh, what a bastard. And they were like, what? They were like, we can't even-- that would make us sick. And then when I asked Josh about it later, he's like, oh, man. He's like, it was the worst. It was the worst thing ever. He's like, I didn't realize that I had it. I totally forgot. And he says, I got up there, and you get strapped in. It takes like three people to get you into the cockpit. You've got all this gear and gack. You're sealed in, because you're going to go to like 60,000 feet. Already claustrophobic, just thinking about it. He's like, I couldn't take it out. Right, yeah. How could he? Where's he going to put it inside the $35 million plane? He's such a man. He is. He's effortlessly a man. He's so cool. Well, if you remember the first time you and I ever met was in front of Central Park. Kristen's trailer was there. Right, yeah, that's right. And she was friends with you, and that's where I met you. And we were doing a movie with Josh Duhamel. We were doing "When in Rome." He was the star of it. Oh, I didn't realize he was the star of it. Yeah, he and Kristen were like lovers. But the funny thing that is Dip related was at that time-- that was 19 years ago. At that time, Kristen and I both dipped, and Duhamel dipped. So the whole set was fucking empty pop bottles and shit. We're just disgusting. Then we all have to go to Italy to shoot for two weeks in Italy. And for whatever reason-- They don't sell Dip in Italy. They do not sell Dip. And we did not pack enough Dip. So like day three, all of us are having a panic about what we're going to do. And then Duhamel says, oh, well, Fergie's coming to visit. On the PGA. I'll tell her to bring some Dip. And we're like, oh my god, great. Fergie's delivery. She shows up with a duffel bag of Dip. Come to find out, sweet Fergie dips. Oh. So there was a moment where we're standing in a piazza-- Incredible. --between shots while they're lighting. We got a fountain behind us. All four of us are sitting there with fucking empty Perrier bottles, dipping and spitting. And I said, this is the first paparazzi photo I would love to be a part of. I want to know, soup to nuts, tell me about your cannabis business. I find this very fascinating. You know, the show I did for Netflix, I Will Find You, is a limited series, American Hostage, is a limited series. Right. You're not going to get four years of work out of it. So I needed to find something to help me. And let me just hold on to a bunch of cash and just wait for a great opportunity to present itself, something that probably is going to need immediate liquidity. And I thought it'd be some real estate thing, like somebody who was in a jam. Yeah. And I waited and was patient. And somebody came to me, and they had a family-owned dairy farm in Massachusetts. And it was going out from under, and they needed capital to-- basically fund like a wildcatting expedition for a cannabis cultivation, manufacturing, and production facility. Yeah. And I was like, ah, you know, I don't really use cannabis. Right. I think it's-- you know, I'm not averse to it. But I've never wanted to invest in it. It feels like it's-- federally, there's a lot of issues. I did all this diligence, as much kind of like work as I could from LA. And then it all started checking out. And I jumped on a plane and visited a farm and met people and kind of local government officials and said, all right, let's get rich quick. Yeah, yeah. Got-- you know, cash poured in real fast. Yeah, how many years ago now? Eight years-- you know, eight years later. But you had three retail locations, yeah? We had four. Four. One in Jersey, you said? I had one in New Jersey, three in Massachusetts. Tucker, that's radical. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it is. And it's called the Boston Garden, right? In Massachusetts, it's the Boston Garden. And what is it in New Jersey? It's the Public Garden. The Public Garden. Uh-huh. OK. I know you just did a play in Boston. Yeah, I did a staged reading with Jeffrey Donovan, who is a phenomenal-- he's a phenomenal actor. He was the star of "Burn Notice" and was the star of "Long Order" recently. And he's in "Sicario," he's a great actor. And he's from Massachusetts. And we both did "Sleepers" together 30 years ago. Right. He was a prison guard. Kevin Bacon. Oh, man. We were doing a bunch of, like, radio press and stuff for the reading. Yeah. And he brought up "Sleepers." And I said, you know, you keep glossing this over, but I just want the audience to know that 30 years ago, you know, you sexually assaulted me as a 12-year-old boy. And he's like, oh, but-- In the movie. In the movie. It was in the movie. You keep glossing over this. Yeah. I said that to Kevin Bacon, too, when we did the show. A couple of the shows you've been on, though, shot, or at least were set there. Have you been there on a show? I shot the pilot of "City on a Hill" for Showtime with Kevin Bacon. Yes. In Boston. When you were there doing "City on a Hill"-- Yeah. --did you have, like, a healing moment? Was it an incredible experience to be where you came from, knowing you could be staying at the Ritz if you wanted to? Was there any kind of, like, healing, fun aspect to that? Like, having walked by-- Yeah. --high areas as a kid, and-- Yeah. I mean, dude, shooting in Boston was unbelievable to me. I mean, it just was, like, the greatest-- yeah, it was incredible. So I grew up in this neighborhood that was known for anybody, when I was growing up, for, like, violence and bank robbing, OK? That's what it was-- It was a particularly armored car. Yes. That's what they were people-- so I went to this lovely school out in the suburbs every day. And there would be kids sometimes who their parents would let them come over and play in my neighborhood, because they thought Charlestown was too dangerous. And so every time I meet somebody, I'm like, well, I'm from Charlestown. And I'm like, but it's not-- you know, it's a lovely neighborhood, it's not about bank robbing, it's not violent, it's totally changed, it's a totally different place. So then I get this offer for this show, where I play a guy from Charlestown who's a bank robber from the '90s. And I was like, so now I'm going to be propagating the same image that I've been telling everybody it's not. You want to make your neighborhood proud. Like, you guys want to make Michigan proud. It's a big part of who you guys are. And you want to be able to go home and let people recognize that you're going out into the world and representing the community well. And I felt that way when I was there doing-- But I had the experience. I didn't work in Michigan, but there was a very kind of amazing experience. I had just visiting Erin one time, because when I was a kid, my mother would take us on Saturdays or Sundays, and she'd drive us through this certain area of, like, Bloomfield Hills. And she'd pull up to a house, and she'd go, OK, that person went to college, right? This person went to college. Her point was, like, if you want to be here, this is how you get here, right? So that was my childhood, was kind of coveting this whole thing. And I was visiting Erin. In fact, I was riding his motorcycle. And we were passing this stretch on this lake everyone wants to live on. And I was seeing these houses I used to stare at. And I just-- I think it's really hard to internalize success. Whether it's because you're always looking at the next thing you want to accomplish or whatever it is, it's been hard for me to internalize it. And I just had this moment where I was looking at these houses, and I was like, no way. I could live here now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I needed that. Like, I needed from where I was from to recognize-- like, oh, if I chose, I could live. And I was like, oh, my god. And this is 20 years of working, and I never had that. feeling but i just had that it was just an incredible feeling going i could actually fucking live here i just wanted to be like i just want to be a great actor like that's what for me that's my version of success yes just be a great actor that's why you're better than and no i just wanted a nice house i just want to be a great i just want to be a great actor and like in boston there is a thing like they do care about that yeah you know like they do really respect that yeah good yeah and like so there was something nice about being home you're like i'm gonna do i'm gonna be i'm so good that i can be on this set in boston and i promise you i'm gonna represent boston and charlestown with the sense of like veracity that you guys know and demand that's really great yeah that's rad which is what you want to do for everything by the way with every character you know you have to know that there's somebody out there that's demanding a certain level of authenticity and you have to be a little scared to let them down to let them down yeah jonathan tucker i love you thanks dude great you drive around all the time with you guys this is a total blast we are supported by all state checking all state first could save you hundreds on car insurance not checking that your phone was backed up before you upgraded the guy at the store said you're all set and well you believed them only to open your photos and they're gone yeah checking first is a good plan so check all state first for an auto quote it could save you hundreds you're in good hands with all state potential savings vary subject to terms and conditions and availability all state north american insurance company and affiliates north brook illinois