Mom Discovers Her 13 Year Old Son Just Killed Someone

"How are you?" "I'm your friend now." "What do you have?" "I was at a big doctor. What do you guys, sister, what do you guys know about what happens?" Police are speaking with 13-year-old Hunter and his twin brother Levi. And while they appear clueless now, one of them has just committed a gruesome murder. "We need to talk to essentially each of you and we're wondering if we can go down to the police department." "I don't know what's going on. Levi." As the week's long investigation continues, detectives discover that these are no ordinary boys. One of them has spent years obsessively researching serial killers like Ted Bundy. Now he believes he's executed the perfect murder and cannot smart police. But a series of childish mistakes would cause his violent fantasies to slowly come to light, leaving his family and the entire town in utter shock as the monster they feared turns out to be a 13-year-old boy. "Fine, Ethel." "No sin, he needs to die." "It's not plausible. There has to be someone who blooded over this." "What happens now?" "He's always right." "There's two types of people in this world. You've got monsters, you've got people who make mistakes." "It's a murder, then it would be a monster, right?" "It's 2 a.m. in the small village of Fairfax, Ohio. And tonight, a 13-year-old boy decides this is the night he becomes a serial killer." "For years, he's been obsessed with true crime content and with his family preparing to move away the following week, he's finally ready to put everything he's learned into action." At 2.30 a.m., he slips out of his house and walks less than 10 feet to his neighbor's house next door. Once inside, the 13-year-old puts on a pair of gloves, something he learned on YouTube that would prevent him from leaving behind his DNA. He moves silently through the house before approaching the bedroom of an elderly woman. At 2.40, he begins strangling her. But despite months of preparation, he quickly realizes this will be far more difficult than he expected. Because when the woman wakes up, she fights back, punching and brutally scratching the boy's face. But just minutes later, the woman is dead, killed at the hands of a little boy. At 3.15 a.m., he's back in his own bed, as if nothing ever happened. It's just past 11 a.m. on a Sunday. Many Fairfax residents are returning home from church when the Fairfax police receive a 911 call, unlike anything they've heard in years. "I know one was the case of your emergency." "39.19, Romania. I think my sister's might have been murdered. It might be some blood. I don't know. She did not respond when I yelled at her." "Alright, Sir, I have help coming out there for her, okay?" "Okay, thank you." "It might matter for her or anything like that?" "Absolutely nobody." On the line, his 61-year-old Darryl Tenpenny, insisting his sister had been murdered, something almost unheard of in this area. Moments later, first responders arrive at the house, unaware they are not only walking into a carefully staged crime scene, but that the killer is still nearby, watching polices every move. "Yeah, let's go ahead and get it out. We'll do what we can to construct some stuff here." "Is this confirmed? Hey, I don't know if I can believe this is the murder. So, camera on." "It's always been on, so I hit it in my voice." "Hold." "Right here. Just try to touch this Lisa, you guys can do what you guys are going to do." "Yeah, no. I don't see a blood." "Did he cover her up?" "I don't know." "The cat, the dispatch said that he found her with a pillow over top of her. I don't know about it." "The proxie, including him, I guess?" "That's different." "Lot of clean chemicals." "I have to have his mouth." "Should I drink it?" "I don't know." "Let me go, you want the monitor?" "We have rigorous." On the bed lies 64-year-old Sheila Tenpenny, partially clothed and deceased for what appears to have been several hours. As officers continue to inspect the house, they notice nothing appears to be stolen, supporting their working theory that Sheila may have taken her own life. And with that assumption comes the first accidental success for the 13-year-old killer. Convincing him, he's already outsmarted the police. However, what officers spot next would flip this theory upside down. "It's just a female deway on Dermania. It's just kind of odd to go over her face and some chemical phenomena. Blood and hair underneath your finger." Blood splatter around the bed. The guy at the founder said the door was open and said he told the squad that he thinks she was murdered. "So, we'll get. " "I don't see blood." "From her?" "All right." "So, that might not be important." "You know, that police work, but I don't mean overset." "No, you're good." "Hills?" "Yeah." "I mean, it's possible." "Yeah." While the blood and hair beneath Sheila's fingernails certainly raise suspicions, investigators still refuse to roll out the possibility of this being self-inflicted. But before they send Sheila's body for autopsy, there's still something that doesn't sit right with them. They're baffled by how certain the victim's brother, Darryl, seemed that his sister had been assaulted before paramedics had even suggested that possibility. And with that statement alone, he has unknowingly made himself their first suspect, so they decide to ask him a few questions. "Hey, no, sir. I mean, I was still not great. I'm also more of a perfect police department. And the last time that you said you know what time about it, or did you talk to her or is she here?" "I see her. And actually, 709 p.m. is the last message I got from her." "Is there anything, is she struggling with anything?" "No." "I mean, mentally, physically." "No, nothing at all." "Oh, she's pretty good." "Okay, so you made a comment to these guys when they first got here that you thought she'd first. " "Well, she's laying on the bed, we were like spread, and it looked like there was blood, and her head was. had stuff on top of it like someone tried to sputter. And she just looked like they gripped her thing open, and I yelled at her. And she didn't. And I didn't see no movement from her whatsoever, and I just turned around and walked out. I don't like it." Interestingly, Darryl never mentions performing CPR. And well, please now know it likely wouldn't have saved Sheila. That's not something Darryl would have known for sure. And right here comes the second lucky break for the teen killer, because every good murder needs a fall guy. And the police have just taken the bait with Darryl. Shortly afterwards, Darryl's interview wraps up the scene is secured, and officers return to the station to await the autopsy results. But as investigators leave the house, they would overlook a crucial piece of evidence. Lying beneath Sheila Tenpenny's body was a men's wristwatch, a seemingly insignificant detail that would later become one of the key pieces of evidence used to solve the entire case. One week passes, and then comes the update investigators have been waiting for. The forensic and DNA results arrive, completely overturning their initial assumptions. Investigators determined that Sheila Tenpenny had suffered blunt force trauma to the head and neck before ultimately being strangled to death, but they also confirmed something crucial. Sheila had managed to fight back. On her hands and beneath her fingernails are traces of blood and toughs of hair, DNA belonging to an unknown male. With these disturbing findings, there is no longer any question. This is a homicide. So early Monday morning, officers return to the neighborhood, going door to door in search of anyone Sheila may have wronged, and anyone with fresh defensive wounds. But in reality, the detectives couldn't be more off-track. While the young killer quietly brags about the murder online, growing more confident by the hour, knowing the victim had absolutely no enemies. And as police begin surveying the neighborhood, they have no idea which interaction will bring them face-to-face with Sheila's killer. So you're one of the trusted family members what we're doing is getting elimination DNA from anybody we talk to as long as you're willing. Thank you very much, and then how about just double check your hands on any work with them on the other side? Yeah, that's great. I can't believe they haven't got a leader of anything. There's a lot going on, I'll say. So this is just part of the process. Here's my car before I forget, in case you have anything else or need to reach out. I email and phone numbers out there. Find it full. Yes, and he needs to die. Yeah, I'm on it. I wish we did that more often to be honest with you. I mean, you know if it gets out, you're going to do it again. You can't cure that. You don't fix it. I agree. Okay, you're good there. You're coming up here soon. I know this is a pain in the ass, man, but I definitely appreciate it. So you guys think this is a random thing? I want to say no. I do. Well, but from what I've heard, you know, a guy down in that new house. After speaking with more than a dozen people, officers uncover a major new rumor. Many in the village suspect Sheila's own brother, Darryl, is responsible. With this, as their only real lead, another team of officers led by Special Agent Richard Ward makes a surprise visit to Darryl's house, less than a mile away. And for the actual killer, the plan appears to be working even better than he imagined. Suspicion has successfully shifted onto Sheila's own family member, pulling detectives completely off his trail as they begin focusing in on Darryl. For now though, officers have just arrived at Darryl's house, where would soon become clear just how lucky the kid got and why Darryl makes the perfect fall guy. Hey, I need to ask you a favor, just want to remember I got your slugs, and you do one more thing. You just show me your shirt underneath your shirt, I just want to make sure I don't want to satisfy myself. I don't think you would ever heard any of that, so I'm going to have to let you shut that car. So you have any idea when the food is serving? I don't know. I won't release the body yet. I don't know. I don't know. Suffice it to say, detective Ward is taken aback by Darryl's unusual living situation, but still no scratches. And so the investigation takes a step back. There is seemingly no one they can tie to the murder, no enemies, no leads, nothing. But that's because they're looking at this crime completely the wrong way. With the investigation at a standstill, officers canvassing the area, continue knocking on doors until they reach the neighbor directly across the street, just 50 feet from the victim's home. It's one of the homes where no one answered earlier, and as they approach the front door, the homeowner Rebecca steps outside, unaware that in the next few minutes her life is about to be turned upside down. So I don't know when it actually happened. I know that we saw like the trucks on our cars or whatever on Sunday. So an actually Sunday morning at like 6 a.m., we had to run to the ER because my son the cat I guess was sleeping on his face and they saw each other in the dark. Oh man. And so we were worried that it was could be bad or infected and so we were worried that it could be bad or infected and so we were worried that it could be bad or infected and so it wasn't a big deal but it was just like traumatizing and I was like everybody in the car. Just a few feet away, 13-year-old Levi Cart looks through the living room window and notices his mother speaking with police officers, panicking. He pauses the YouTube video he was watching, runs up to his room and locks the door. Back outside officers begin piecing things together. The boy with fresh scratches across his body could very well be tied to Sheila's murder In a few moments, detectives will step inside to follow up on this lead, but what they will soon find will defy their expectations. So, I'm just going to go out and see if I can get out. Did you want to talk in the living room or if you want to talk in your room or if you want to hear it, don't talk about something else in the next few or the next few or the next few. I know what game you play in over there. The game? Yeah. You know Dexter? Oh, he is, uh, he's cap cutting. Oh, it is. Hi. Oh, that's cool. Now you are Hunter. Hunter, Hunter. Do you want to come sit down? Yeah. Naturally, this is not the suspects the detectives were hoping to see, as 13-year-old Hunter Cart enters the room. Realizing they may have jumped to conclusions, the detectives still begin to question the boy. Perhaps he knows something after all. So, I'm with me, I have your little investigation and we're just talking to people to see if they might have heard or seen anything unusual that happened over the weekend. Um, no. Uh. I'm right. Yeah. I'm sorry. Which is something else. Yeah. Yeah. My brother got into an injury and he had to go to the ER. I got really sick and started vomiting and stuff. So. How are you feeling? Did you do better? A lot better. That's good. That all day was just kind of a burr for everybody. Unless it's something that happened a long time ago, that's memorable, it's not really something I remember unless it like is really, really brought up. Although Hunter is unable to provide any new details, he seems fairly cooperative and willing to help. His twin brother Levi, on the other hand, is still in his room, refusing to come out. Earlier, their mother had mentioned Levi was editing Dexter, a crime drama centered around a vigilante serial killer, a show both detectives are all too familiar with. And it's here that detectives would begin to realize their initial hunch about Rebecca Suns may not have been a coincidence after all. That was right there, until all the lights were off. So we've been knowing for a while that we needed to cut the nails, Hunter's been saying that for a lifetime. So us moving, I mean we know everybody knows that cats are just awkward, so us moving is an arsenal of being weird because we're moving and we had a place for them and they we packed it up, so it's also probably another thing. So yeah, me and him just randomly saw each other, he scraped me on the neck, I'm not sure if you can see you. No, where else did you get it? He kind of scraped me on my face a little bit, and then mainly my nose and I was kind of scared. Yeah. I was just stitching myself up. Yeah, it was five stitches? It was pretty deep. Pretty deep, so it was there. We went back to the house after we got out of the doctor and then that's when we saw the ambulance. I don't know, a lot of it's a blur because I tried to ping myself up, so I was distracted in the power and correct. Interestingly, both brothers used the same word, blur, when we're calling the incident. And while traumatic events, even something like death of a neighbor can affect memory, what catches officers' attention far more is the way Levi seems to over-explain what happened. He claims the deep scratches came from a fight with a house cat. Being officers find difficult to believe given the severity of the wounds. So with this in mind, detectives believe that despite their young age, the brothers have given them enough probable cause to take the next step. The detectives ask to speak with Rebecca outside for a moment, where they request permission to collect DNA from both of her sons. Without much hesitation, she agrees, but when the three of them return, one of the brothers would have a very different reaction to being tested. So have you seen any like crime shows or anything? How we kind of do our job? The medical stuff is a little different than the law enforcement stuff, but I don't know if she explains you, but we're just going to swab your cheek and it's not going to go and the database or anything, but we're going to compare it against the fact that we have a big sense. It will take two seconds, it's just, you don't have to do anything, but obviously we're asking everybody on the street, and it would be super helpful if you could. The detectives proceed to take DNA swabs from both brothers, though Hunter and Rebecca are clearly far more willing to cooperate than Levi. But what one of the brothers doesn't seem to realize is that the more he talks, the more the cart brothers begin to look less like witnesses and more like suspects. What do you guys know about what happens? Well I can tell you this, it shouldn't happen. We need to figure out why it happened so that hopefully we can keep it from happening again because we'd hate to miss some evidence and if you watch any TV we don't want to be those cops that forgot to do this or look into that. You know what I mean? I would say definitely my brother knows a lot about just the police in general. I don't know. I don't know. There's a spot for everybody in my opinion. Me and most have both agreed that him especially is a lot more mature than most kids are age. Strangely Hunter continues offering interesting details without being prompted, insisting that the teen brothers are far more mature than most kids their age. And when he brings up Levi's injuries, Levi becomes visibly uncomfortable, giving his brother a long, chilling stare. By the end of the interview, the twins no longer seem like ordinary kids to the detectives. Their fascination with true crime, gory shows like Dexter, foggy memory, and of course the hard to explain cat scratches on Levi all point towards something deeply unsettling. With DNA collected, investigators return to the station to brief the sergeant on everything they've uncovered. Now all they can do is wait for the DNA results from Darryl, the cartoons, and several neighbors and family friends to come back the following day. Still believing a deranged killer may be at work, investigators know that until he or they are caught, no one in this quiet village is truly safe. The next day, the DNA results finally come in, and investigators are stunned. Both of Rebecca's sons are a match, but that doesn't necessarily mean they were both at the scene. According to the forensic analyst, the lab cannot tell Levi's DNA apart from hunters because identical twins share the same STR markers. Needless to say, investigators are now facing an extraordinarily rare problem, but even with these findings, detectives struggle to process the facts that the suspects are only 13 years old. Not only would they have to be deeply disturbed, but they would also need the physical strength to carry out a crime this violent. Then again, their age could also work in the investigators' favor. Teenagers are more likely to slip up, confess to friends or family, or leave evidence of their actions somewhere online. The problem is, detectives have enough probable cause for a search warrant, but not enough to formally detain Rebecca or either brother, something they absolutely cannot let the family realize. Nevertheless, they return to the family home, hoping they can persuade Rebecca to bring her sons to the station, allowing investigators to begin searching the house the moment they leave. But the situation is incredibly delicate. One wrong move could spook the family and shut down the entire investigation. Hi, we're back in. You got your keys in the door? We just walked in the house. Do you need to come in? What's going on? Yeah, love you. Great. We had a couple things to talk about. Okay. Hi, guys. You just said down to me. Yeah, which is you? Thanks. Do you just name her? Yeah. So, are all three of you here? Are all three of you here? Yeah. Who is? You got her? I need to be nervous. It's making me feel nervous. It's okay. You're good. Yeah, you want to take a seat somewhere? Yeah. Okay. It's okay. I'm going to go put down for a little last year. Yeah, come on. It's relaxed. Yeah, you guys are good. Okay. Do you guys want to sit down here? You get more comfortable? Hey, Lewis. Sure. Did you get Keynes, too? Yes. We literally just walked in the door. Yeah. We need to talk to essentially each of you. All right. And we're wondering if we can go down to the police department. Just we have a better area to talk. Okay. Okay. So if you guys want, let's put some shoes and socks on. Maybe a coat. And then I will head that way. Clearly, detectives didn't arrive with a strong plan and are instead relying heavily on improvisation. Somehow, though, despite not having their answers fully prepared, they appear to be succeeding in getting the family to the station voluntarily. But that can only work for so long before someone catches on. Do we need to be getting lawyers or something? I'm feeling. I don't know. You're welcome to call on attorney. Also, do we have to go? Is it just like, like, right now thing or what? I don't know. I feel uncomfortable. How about we get there? We may explain kind of what's going on. Give you some more info. You can always, you know. What do you want to explain before we head out there? Do you mind if we do that outside? Sure. You guys want to wait a second? Is that what you mean? All three of you outside if possible. Okay. We just need to go over some things, the neighborhood with you, ma'am. We could go back to here so we don't have to sit in the rain. Yeah. Are we guys some some pitches I want to show you? And I'll show you and your sons and there's a bunch of stuff we want to talk to you about. So. All right. You guys good? Are we in under some special person thing? We just want to talk to you. I think you guys can help us clear a lot of things up around here. So. Okay. All right. All right. Let's go. Hey, John. Then you'll ride with you. Okay. That works. Now, before we get in, I just got to make sure there's nothing on you. It's going to stick me, poke me, tuck me. Yep. All right, thanks a lot. You want to step over there to him right there. All right. You just have to see right there for me. All right. Do you guys put this on you for the whole three blocks? We're out of it. Probably we'll put this on. I mean, but there's nothing that we can talk about. Yeah. I don't know what's going on. Well, very, very unexpected. My anxiety levels were pure. I don't know why there's so many police vehicles either. Yeah. That's definitely what scared me. Seeing all the cops immediately pull up. Like, one person's there. Didn't see that pull up. And then I was just like, why are they. what's the reason? I'm sure it's. I don't know. Maybe it's an intimidation tactic. I guess. I don't know why they're trying to investigate us, right? Miraculously, despite the detective's sloppy handling of the situation and Rebecca's growing skepticism, they still managed to convince the family to come to the station. For now, they've purposely kept the twins together, hoping the cameras might catch something and criminating. But the brothers have seen this tactic before and say nothing. Foolishly convinced, they're outsmarting the police. Investigators have also just confiscated their phones and obtained house keys from Rebecca, allowing them to begin searching the home for any evidence tying the boys to the crime. But despite these small victories, this is where detectives would face a major reality check about their strategy. Upon arriving at the station, the twins are quietly escorted through a separate entrance and separated from their mother. The twins don't seem particularly worried, calmly following detectives into the interrogation rooms. But for Rebecca, the situation is very different because the moment she's finally informed that her sons are about to be questioned, And without her present, all hell breaks loose. "I don't want food. I want our lawyer and have my children stop being questioned. Without the lawyer present, immediately." "Okay." "So let's make that happen." "I don't know. You know, he's doing what? No, but I can go get that figure out for you. We need to happen right now." "I got it." "No, my slippers. We just got home from the doctor's office." "So comfy." "They are. Pumpy eyes." "Amazon?" "Yeah." "Oh my goodness. Amazon." "People are so against it." "Really? I know you're being friendly. I need to know. My children are not being militant. No, they have a lawyer." "You didn't let us know that we're being detained." "You're not being detained. You're free to go." "You didn't let us know that you were detained in my children." "They're free to leave." "You did not." "Right now?" "They're allowed to leave right now." "Let's go." "Right now." "Right now." "You said they're allowed to leave." "Yes or no? You cannot take them." Clearly, this is not how detectives hoped things would go. Rebecca is furious. Man, not with that reason. The detective just admitted that the boys are free to leave, yet does nothing when Rebecca demands exactly that. On top of that, her phone has been confiscated, making it impossible for her to even call the lawyer. It's here that the risk behind the detective strategy, or lack thereof, becomes impossible to ignore. The advantage of this approach is that by withholding the real reason the boys are there, detectives limit the information the suspects can tailor their stories to, making contradictions and inconsistencies much easier to catch later. That said, when those suspects are minors and detectives need their mother's cooperation, this strategy can quickly backfire. After mining trust and damaging the legitimacy of the entire process, and unsurprisingly, Rebecca's outrage is only beginning as she storms out of the interrogation room in search of anyone willing to tell her what's really going on. "Are you accusing them of murder? Is that why they're being detained because they're under suspicion for murder? How would they know anything unless you were accusing them of murder? I'm saying this whole charade, this whole way we've gone about this and approached it and slowly showed things to me because I've asked questions and not because you are transparent is not okay. It literally just says we have the ability to search all of your belongings. It doesn't say for what reason would they want to search the book? It says for murder because we're investigating the murder of the neighbor. And my 13 year olds have not murdered any. Okay, well, we're trying to find a further information that was disvolved yesterday to put the pieces together. So I'm not going to be told anything. Well, I'm not being questioned. We would love to talk to you if you would be willing to talk. I'm literally standing here waiting. Well, we were trying to talk to you, but you want to make phone calls and do all those things. If you'd like to talk now, you're well aware. So a lot. And it's nothing because it's not telling me anything. I'm sorry. I asked her a lawyer for the boys. He's saying because we talked to him. I'm asking him. I'm sorry. I'm really working on it. I understand. I understand. You have everything to be worked up. I'm just trying to sort it out. So under under what grounds are they being questioned what prompted them. There was a bomb that happened across the street. I understand that. But what specifically about our boys is causing you guys to bring them to the station for questioning. Those details I don't know because that was the best engagement and more about that than I do. Are there are you guys bringing in every neighbor to we get 25 yesterday? I know myself in another agent to the station. Well, I don't know how many people got brought here. This is we're also doing a search warrant for us too. So judges granted us search warrant for her house and who else? Well, the search warrant is for the house and the vehicle on the property. Our house and the vehicle property. Okay. Were there's other search warrants for other members? Not the numbers. You guys are questioning two 13 year old boys. Well, we're not. Some of us. You're absolutely correct. But I don't know what I'm saying. I did. This is why we need our lawyer doctor now. We need to make this happen. I don't have a phone. So this needs to happen on your own immediately, whoever we call. After getting little to no answers from the detectives, the twins father calls a lawyer hoping he can intervene. But even with legal counsel now on the way, detectives press forward with the interviews, fully aware of the risk they're taking. At the same time, ever since the boys left with the police, a search of their home has been underway. And very soon, it will begin yielding crucial evidence for the interrogations. As both brothers wait for their interrogations to begin, it quickly becomes clear that one of them is about to be treated very differently. Because Hunter had been significantly more talkative the day before, detectives opt for a more casual friendly approach, and even his interrogation room reflects that. Levi, on the other hand, is placed in a cold, cramped room, subjected to the kind of interrogation tactics typically reserved for an adult suspect. Based on the scratch marks alone, detectives strongly suspect Levi is the killer. But there is still nothing rolling out the possibility that Hunter may have helped him, especially after learning that Levi has significant mobility issues. Now with a lawyer on the way to the station and two furious parents pacing outside, the clock is ticking. So detectives split into two groups to question the boys simultaneously. And as the questioning begins, Hunter's interview escalates far quicker than expected, because there's something he needs to get off his chest. "Just say no, I don't feel pressured if you're on the side." "I don't think so." "Of course, I feel a little pressured, but I don't feel like I have to sign those." "Okay, I know, it's more suspicious than this, but on me if I don't answer any questions." "Yeah, we're here to talk, ask questions, get your story." "I know you've been told more and a little bit." "Yeah, is this something?" "Yeah." "I'm going to say, I don't think my brother would do anything like that." "But because that day he got scratched on his face, because of that day, it also seemed like a very wide coincidence, because, of course, his cat was scratched by a cat. We talked about it, and it certainly looks like Lewis has some, like, the coincidences are there." At this early stage of the interview, Hunter, completely unprompted, begins talking about the scratch wounds, which he believes are the most concrete evidence against his brother. But while he frames it as a coincidence, back at the house, police executing the search warrant noticed something that immediately casts doubt on the story. On Rebecca's bed, they find the family cat, Marshmallow, sitting completely calm. But more importantly, the cat's claws seem far too small to match the injuries on Levi. This information is relayed back to detectives at the station where Hunter and Levi are being interviewed. And while Hunter appears eager to talk, Levi's interview is moving far more slowly, as detectives focus on building rapport and choosing their words extremely carefully. So seeing just how much more talkative Hunter is, investigators keep their focus on him for now, hoping he can offer further insight into his brother, or perhaps, even turn on him. He had extra, like, red scratch marks on his face. I mean, that seems obvious and suspicious, but like I said, I don't think he could do something with that. I'm gonna keep saying this, but this makes me feel really upset because a lot of evidence is powered up against him, but like. I mean, I don't know if you guys suspect him of anything. But I truly don't believe he could do anything like that. Even though he has all these things. He's never talked about anything like that with you. Because we agree with you. About hurting somebody or when he gets triggered, he gets upset and acting out and just saying things. I don't know how he behaves when you say that. No, no, like I said, no, he doesn't behave weirdly when triggered. He just doesn't. He's just quiet. It's upsetting for him. Like, he started crying when he got back to his house because he said. He never gives an explanation as to why he's triggered, but. Interestingly, although Hunter describes the suspicious behavior he's noticed from his brother, he continues to insist that Levi could not actually be responsible for the murder. But detectives can't tell whether his reaction is genuine or part of a calculated effort to distance himself from the crime. At this stage, though, they're fairly certain Levi is the culprit and decide it's time to stop speculating and focus on something more concrete. So they turn to a key piece of evidence Hunter can't deny something they had kept hidden from the twins. A watch, recovered from beneath Sheila's body. One investigator's initially dismissed, but now strongly suspect belongs to one of the two boys. And whether he realizes it or not, what he says next, would see other fate. "Do you recognize that?" "That's the list of watch." "That's the list of watch." "That's the list of watch." "That's the list of watch." "That's the list of watch." At the thought of his own brother being responsible for the murder, Hunter appears to completely break down. Detectives realize he's now too emotional and overwhelmed to provide any more reliable information. So they decide to end the interview, despite failing to secure a confession and not fully rolling him out as a suspect. Still, they've learned something important, more insight into Levi and confirmation that his watch was indeed at the scene. But just outside the interrogation room, the boy's parents continue arguing with deputies. And with a lawyer coming to intervene, investigators are running out of time. If they want to secure an admission before the interview is shut down, they know they need to raise the stakes with Levi. So the detectives interviewing him finally move on from building rapport and shift the conversation to the scratches. Testing whether his explanation matches the one he gave the day before. Do you know what we're investigating? I mean, I know something happened on the street. Across the street, right in front of me. Right. A woman was murdered, right? So we're trying to find out what happened. I mean, I've already talked to, at the IMF getters, my cat had randomly woke me up with all the lights off, like sitting on my neck. So he like scratched my face. I felt very bloody, obviously, sort of blot of scratches on me. Usually, because of my disability as well, I used like a shower chair. Yeah, because I can't really stand for that long without getting super fatigued and falling or walking around for too long. I didn't use the shower chair because I didn't want to make a bunch of noise and make anybody up. So I ended up literally falling, and I fell and like hit my head on the, on the Z-Hower hose. Where did you get it? Just like around here, like right here. So I, I don't know how I should have believed more. Yes, yes. As Levi, once again, overexplains the incident, detectives notice he makes a point of emphasizing that the injuries became worse, after he slipped in the shower, but something else in Levi's account immediately stands out. After mentioning his medical condition, detectives recall reviewing his records and discovering that Levi has cerebral palsy. This brings the detectives back to an earlier question. Not only is Levi just 13 years old, but his disability raises serious doubts about whether he was even physically capable of carrying out such a violent attack on his own, especially considering Sheila fought back. Investigators know Hunter is physically stronger, has no disability, and shares many of the same interests in true crime as his brother Levi. At this point, detectives are realizing they may have prematurely cleared Hunter, treating him more like a witness than a suspect, and in doing so, may have lost their chance to implicate him. But with the pressure mounting on Levi, this may be the perfect opportunity for him to turn on his brother. And for the first time during his interview, the bond between the twins is about to be truly tested. We get in, and like 15 minutes later, Mom, Tina went to the fire on the outside, and she opened the window, and she was like, "Oh my God, something happened to me." And me already in a panicked, weird state, I started feeling emotionally triggered, and when she said, "There was a bunch of animals outside." She, where I started to freak out even more, I just felt, even worse, because Mom had said something had happened to the knees, our neighbor, right in front of us. And I started feeling even worse, just to the fact that the same night that something happened, or something like that had happened, that I had an injury of my own. Although Levi never directly blames his twin brother for the murder, he seems more focused on how bad the situation already looks for him. And as the interview continues, it would only get worse, because detectives begin receiving critical updates from the house search that is still ongoing, and officers have started uncovering disturbing items. Inside Levi's bedroom, officers recover a journal containing violent writing and repeated references of wanting to kill someone. They also uncover a growing obsession with serial killers, books, online content, and material saved, focused on infamous murderers, and in particular, Ted Bundy. Detectives begin to realize this was far more than just a morbid curiosity. Over time, what began as an interest in true crime had evolved into something far darker for Levi, and now detectives are left trying to determine whether this interest in violence had consumed them both. Because Levi and Hunter are twins, the blood DNA recovered at the scene is consistent with both of them. Something detectives choose to intentionally keep from Levi. Instead, they plan to tell him that the DNA points specifically to him, hoping this pressure will make him crack. But if Levi is the criminal genius he thinks he is, he will easily be able to see through the detectives' bluff. So you said you've never been in Denise's house. Never been. Do you know what DNA is? Have you ever heard of it? I've heard of it. So we're trying to figure out, and I want you to help me explain this. Why your blood would be in Denise's house? That's what we're trying to figure out. Well, I'm not sure. Because I don't know, like, how is it my blood? That's what we're trying to find out. Because I don't know, I don't know why it would be in my house. I know that in her house. Yeah, that's what we're trying to figure out. That's why we're even here right now. Oh, remember we got those slugs from you? Well, we compared that to the blood in the house, and it's not only her blood, it's your blood mixed in with it. Wow. Through DNA testing. I don't know what explanation I could give you, or even come up with. That won't be equivalent to how that would happen. There's only one person here that knows that you know that, because there's no other way that part of you can be in that house without you never being in there. I can't raise that. Right. So that's why I just need an explanation as to how I'm just trying to grab my brain around you. Well, I have to wrap my brain around first. Yeah. So that's what we need to wrap around together. You know, can you help me get that? I can if you help me. me. I can help you if you help me. If I tell you the truth, I don't think you're telling me all the truth. But I don't know. Well, I think you have about how you hurt. We have your blood in her house and we're trying to figure out how it got there. That's the bottom line. Well, that's the bottom line. Are you true with my blood from somewhere? We don't need your blood. We got swabs. I just mean like, did you, did somebody put my blood in the house for a reason? Oh, I don't know. Would you tell me, would they? I didn't put your blood in the house. I didn't put your blood there. I mean, I'm only 13. I don't know why anybody would put my blood in the house, but is there any more questions you have from here like what? Well, I just, I want to get past this and we're not getting past it. You don't know. I don't know. So we're not resolving anything. Well, I'm not sure if we can resolve it. If I don't know, and you don't know, the ceiling. I made a list that I, I wholeheartedly believe that there's two types of people in this world. You've got monsters. You've got people who make mistakes. I think I just don't agree with that. Help us explain this. What do you disagree with about that thing? I just think that, you know, there's, there's a lot of different types of people in the world. There's not monsters and people who commit mistakes. Well, I'm simplifying things in terms of, you know, a crime, a murder, right? There's two types of people who would commit a murder. There's a monster, and there's people who make mistakes. Like, his example of the scary monster, if it's a murder, then it would be a monster, right? No, not necessarily. You know what I'm saying? You know, still believing he's in control of the situation, Levi never asks for a lawyer or even his mother, and unsurprisingly, fails to catch the detective's bluff about his DNA. But while Levi remains convinced he's outsmarted the police, he has no idea that while the evidence uncovered in his room is already damning enough, what detectives are about to find on his phone will destroy any chance of walking free. Because before long, detectives would receive the final and most crucial breakthrough in the investigation. After searching the brother's phones and social media activity, it begins to uncover a disturbing picture. Just one day after the murder, Levi writes, "This one was a fighter, and detectives realize this wasn't a spur of the moment act. Levi had been planning a murder for months, with searches of how to choose the perfect victim, how to strangle someone, and how to defeat a police interrogation. And they would uncover even more evidence tying Levi directly to the scene. Not only was the watch confirmed to be Levi's, but inside his room, they discovered a shirt, covered in Sheila's blood, and gloves matching the ones from the crime scene. Now, even without a full confession, detectives know they have enough evidence to formally charge him. With this, both interrogations finally come to an end, and as a detective steps out to inform the parents that one of their young sons is an alleged killer, all they can do is stand in shock silently waiting to hear their son's fate." "Well, yeah. This is um, they're dead." "We're dead." "Uh-huh. I'm special agent of a ward with B. Spiro criminal investigation. We've seen two of my colleagues here, my other colleague. Now this is something that I'm going to tell you that we have that are dead. Okay. All right, that watch that we showed you was under her body. What? "What?" "No." "Okay, I want things to tell me." "Okay, I don't know what in the world happened. He's, we're not talking him anymore. I mean, he doesn't want to really talk anymore. Um, I don't know what happened." "You can keep talking." "Well, we have a lot of other evidence, too. I'm just trying to figure out what the Lord had." "I don't know. Um, no." "No." "Okay, sorry. What else?" "I'm not doing this, too." "I don't think you are." "I'm just trying to do my job, and so am I calling." "What has happened now?" "I'm consulting with the head of the County Cross Gears office." "It's only my team." "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, look." "Well, I know, I know, I know, I know." "I know." "Okay." "I know, I know, I know, I know." "I know." "I don't know, I feel like such an over-heans old story, I don't know." "You're a mom." "There's no way you could have known." After finally learning what their son had done, Levi's family are left to come to terms with a devastating reality. With the overwhelming evidence against him, on November 10th, 2025, Levi Kart ultimately pleads guilty to aggravated murder, aggravated burglary, and strangulation in the killing of Sheila Tenpenny. And because of his age, Levi receives the maximum sentence allowed under juvenile law. He will remain in a juvenile facility until he turns 21, meaning he is expected to be released in 2033. But for Sheila's family, the outcome still doesn't feel like justice. Under juvenile sentencing laws, Levi cannot legally remain incarcerated beyond that age. And, at Levi's sentencing, the lead investigator warned the court telling the judge he made a mistake. It was good luck for us that he did, but in the future, is he going to learn from those mistakes? That's what I'm concerned about. For the detectives involved in the investigation, there remains a terrifying possibility that Sheila was not the end of Levi's violence, but only the beginning of what he could be capable of. And while this case left Ohio shaken by a killer, no one ever expected our next case unfolds, somewhere danger is never supposed to reach. Inside St Vincent's North Hospital, more than a dozen gunshots sent patients and doctors into lockdown, as SWOT officers move floor-by-floor searching for the shooter. With one person already dead, more than 70 rooms, and a maze of hallways to secure, police are forced into an intense race to stop the gunman before he finds another victim. To watch this exclusive Doctor and Sanity episode, along with three more episodes from our new 2B series, click the link below and check it out now for free on 2B.