Mock 5.0: Todd’s Strongest Leans, Muench’s Favorite Picks, and Wild Cards

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We're doing a pre-show, 7 o'clock, all the intel. Get you ready for it on Thursday night, day one of the draft. And then day two, Friday. We're there one hour before, so that will be 6 p.m. Eastern. We start for the 7 p.m. Eastern start time for the second day of the NFL draft, Round 3 and 4. So with that aside, the mock just came out. Let's get into it. Let's take three things off the top. Tucker, put that graphic up for the folks. All right, top 10 picks. It got a little wild, man. And I can already smell a mock 5.1 in the air. Yeah. What's it going to do it? But I'm going to do it. But I do feel good about the tenor of this thing. I think players are going to come off the board a little bit earlier on the defensive side. I think men's sword, the men's sword delaying from LSU. It's somewhere in that 7 to 12. I don't know if he gets to 12 range. I think Ruben Bain could very well go 8 to the Saints or 9 to the Chiefs. But let's start right off the top. Fernando Mendozo, we know, is the number one overall pick to the Raiders. Number two. Yeah, I laugh at the folks who are busting my balls about the jets in that pick. Meanwhile, every single national analyst and every local one all admits and to his credit in the organization's credit for the first time I can remember it. I can remember the things of all, man. Yeah, that create. I've got really good sources. I trusted one that led me in the wrong direction. And I've gotten to the bottom of the Y for about 48 hours. Other than that, we were first to market on David Bailey over like a month and a half ago. And b, after some Reese talk, we came back and for the last 10 plus days outside of 48 hours, we were on David Bailey. And the messed up part of all of it is because of this secrecy with the number two pick for the New York Jets. And with Mendoza already well known, I still think like 2% of me, maybe 5% of me. Here we go. And maybe it's not Reese. Maybe it's a trade that we don't, you know, like, so like get out of here. Oh, and I work and and Fandals are biggest sponsors. So everyone's on. Oh, you said don't. The only tweet I sent out about David Bailey, which by the way, I had him going to the Jets for Fandals. Let me let you know how this thing works. I have been working the draft with my sources for 26 years, developing a reputation. And the people in the league don't give a shit if I'm tweeting something out. We all have business and work. Guess who the lights are on in this studio, right? You know why? Fandal. Do you look at our website, our beautiful new website? Guess who's sponsoring it? Fandal. They're wonderful to work with. Guess what's happening in sports today? Gambling is a part of it. I understand all of it. There's no conflict. So I get an email a couple times. They're saying, hey, what's what's set up? We're doing a fan deal with it. So I look at the board. They send me the board and they're like, what kind of jumps out to you? I put out a couple things. Do you think that that my integrity is any different? Do you think that has anything to do with the 30 phone calls I'm talking to NFL executives? Like get out of here, scumbags. Like there's there's scumbags that are drifting off of our information. And then there are other ones who are questioning my my integrity. Get out of it. And honestly, it seems like I'm worked up. I'm not even that worked up, but it's kind of like like stop of all the things you're going to question me on. It's the integrity of what we're doing here. And meanwhile we've got the shregers and shifters and and and the brewers and all the local people. It's like everyone has kind of been in and out. And yes, he planted a shaker planted his flag on Bailey. And I have except for 48 hours because they got information. If you knew the source, you'd be like, oh, I get it. I get why Todd did that. Seems reasonable. There's a relationship with with with with Mooji going back like 25 30 years. Hmm. My my the better source I would so like stop. Please stop. I feel better. Feel better. And get that off your chest, right? Yeah, I feel better. Like it's a joke that and I honestly. I talked to talk to three teams since all of this stuff and like no one's even like it's not even on the radar of people that matter. So I shouldn't even I shouldn't even entertain it for those those folks. Anyway, our Val Reese. I have going three. I want to get these three picks out of the way because Arizona one is interesting because our Val I put our Val Reese there because I think there is a chance that they're that Arizona could take them. Yeah. I think there's just as much a chance that let's put it this way. If the cardinals get their number one priority wish on that wish list and are able to move out the team that's moving up is moving up for one of those two edge rushes. So if Bailey goes to as everyone's projecting now, then that would be for our values. Okay. Yep. So now it gives me even if it's it's 70 30 with bid well and everyone in the league thinks thinks this and people are sharing it. So I'll share it too. There seems to be a bid well is really pushing and I've been telling you for a month plus. There's a voice in that cardinals organization that is pushing for for Jeremiah love while others are pushing for an edge rusher at three. So we'll see on we'll see tomorrow night. Let's say for these purposes, whether it's Arizona at three or it's a team moving in our Val Reese is that pick. So you feel good about the first three players off the board. I feel good about the first two. Well, not the order though. You it's going to be. And those Bailey Reese whatever order the second two might be it might be Reese Bailey. No, I feel good about Bailey. I really do. Okay. If there's a shock there, we'll all be shocked together and it'll be a lot of fun. What I what I like, honestly, if Arizona sticks and picks the guy who writes the checks and there's other people in the building. I got you. I think Jeremiah love right now. If you told me absolutely we're on the clock. There's no. I understand. I probably in shifting that to Jeremiah love, even though I know there are people in the building the football side. Not all, but some of the football side that would think that they should go whether it's our Val Reese or Maui Noah or they should. Yeah, different direction than Jeremiah love. Yeah, I wasn't getting that at first. Okay. All right. What else do you feel good about? What else do you feel really strongly about? I'd say the next thing here. Here's what I feel really strongly about. Okay. And it seems like well, it's it's a big range. It's actually not a big range. The thing that I'm taking away from all of these causes. Jeremiah love who a lot of people were saying, well, if he gets to seven, he's not getting to seven. Jeremiah love the Notre Dame running back is going three as we just talked about it. The possibility with bid well ownership and some other people in the building. If not, I think Tennessee is very much back in play. I think a lot of the noise that started to come out was what sunny styles. Edge rushers and listen, I know there are people in the building that want edge rusher. And if Jeremiah love goes three, I think it could be sunny styles there at four. Okay. But it's not like not everything is misinformation. But The context of it is hard to get because there are people in the organization that maybe you talk to other people or people who know somebody saying, "Well, they like Reese." And they do. There are people who do. And they like, and we all do. And they like sunny styles. And they do. And I think they like them more than other teams because of that Fred Warner position. But I think Jeremiah Love would, my understanding is, could rule the day and understandably so. I think pairing him up with Cam Ward would be the right thing to do. I think Brian Dable would love a weapon like that. I get the Tony Pollard's there. But as you've referenced, not a lot of carries last year. What's balanced this thing? As a team, he was fine. But as a team, everyone loved Taj A Spears, but he just does not say healthy and did not carry enough of a workload. He's more of a number three, I think, than a two. I think the Giants pecking order is this at five. Is this the second thing you feel strongly? No, no, no. This completes the three. Jeremiah Love is three, four, five. So we just talked about three bidwell owners, ownership. Just talked about four. I think that would be the pick. But if he goes three and a lot of people are assuming Jeremiah Love could go three, then they would probably be a styles team. And now I'm getting to five. And that's the New York Giants. I understand the pecking order is Jeremiah Love. And Caleb Downs, and they do really like Jordan Tyson, the wide receiver for Arizona State, but more hopeful that that could get done at 10. Right. And I, which I don't think it will. So that's my first thing I'm strongest on. Yeah. What's your next thing? What's the next thing you love? Do you really feel good about? I get a drink of water. Um, if my, if you know, let me ask you this, I'll give you a second and take a drink of water really quickly. It's the best landing spot for love out of those three. That's a good question. It's probably five. The Giants, right? Five. I think their offensive lines in a little bit better position than the teams. I agree. I agree. They've got four spots that I feel good real, you know, good to really good about. Yeah. And they got three guys that can figure out right tackle, right guard. They'll figure it out, right? I think they'll figure it out. And you can also, yeah, you can draft someone. I mean, let's face it, you can draft someone in the second round of guard. You can grab draft someone in the third round of guard. Yeah. This doesn't have to be tackle like a lot of these other. I agree. That's why I think it's interesting that so many people want to give them one there at five. Now that you're hydrated. Yes, I am. Number two is a simple one. Okay. If sunny styles doesn't go for as we just outlined to you the how that could happen. If, if Jeremiah love is not on the board, sunny styles is the likely pick at number four. He goes number seven. That's the interesting one to look at, right? So he's not going five to the Giants. He's not going six to Cleveland. That's an offensive tackle or tradeout team. But I think his floor is actually seven to Washington. That's it. That's it. I love it. I love that you got to know that one. That's great. What's your next one? The Rams will not sit at 13 and take wide receiver. It doesn't make sense. Your point makes sense. Now I put Ty Simpson in there. I get it. I get it. Here's what I know on this situation. I know they've had a lot of interest in day two wide receivers. That's less need. Sean McFae. I know that for a fact. And I know that there's second this goes back to like the evaluation part, the part that we that that's our bread and butter, not all this other TMZ shit that goes on to the 10 days leaving out that everyone's all worked up because I flipped on Reese for 48 hours. Scumbags. What ball part of me is very clear in the vision that McVae and Snead have at wide receiver. And that's why they can find receivers typically a little bit later. Receiver still is a priority. I mean, Pukka Nukuwa. God bless them and let's hope that everything works out. And this was, he looks back on an important bump in his journey, right? However, there's that mild concern. But even with even Pukka at his absolute best, they want to bring in another receiver. The most important part of this is, and I've said this before, but they're on struggling. Jeremy Bernard, even at Chris Bell, the blocking's not there, but that big, that physical, sturdy, strong badass, will block, will break, tackle, contact balance, that kind of wide receiver is available in the second round. They can get one of those guys. And so why am I using the 13th pick? What makes the less a wild card is there either one of two things. This F.M. picks 2.0 all in 2027. We don't know if McVae is going to be here beyond staffer. This could be their swan song. We're doing a two year deal. Maybe it's only one year deal with Matthew. It's not BS. Or look how close they were to winning a Super Bowl last year. But there's also an organization to run. And so if it were to be Tyson Simpson, this is also what I know for fact. They really like Tyson Simpson, more than just like they really like Jeremy Bernard and Stribbling a little bit more maybe than others because of fit. And I know there was a point in time where there was maybe communication between the Rams and Tyson Simpson's camp. I know for a fact they really like Tyson Simpson. Now what I don't know, and I'm throwing a dart with, is a 13th thing to take Tyson Simpson. But here's the other thing I keep getting from people that I trust, that Simpson's going round one and probably higher than you think. So is that Pittsburgh at 21? I don't think so, but it could be is the Rams at 13. I don't know. I don't think it seems, it seems crazy. But what I do know is don't expect the Rams to just sit there at 13 and take McCoy lemon. Right. Do you think they'll move or you think they'll take a different player there? I think he's a wild card, man. Yeah, it could be anything. I think if he, I think if there's a player, let's say it's car and L. Tate that they really want. I think it's like, yeah, take 27. Take the 2027 second round pick and we'll give you a second this year and go up for him. What if Jeremiah love, it all shocks us? That would be something. What if Jeremiah love gets to five and the giants are like, yeah, we were enamored with it. But man, we'd love to have 13 and another pick next year and a second round or this year or something, something like that. Right. Unless is, unless is most dangerous when he's not beholden to, I got to get a tackle or I got it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I think all GM's are, but especially he's aggressive and I promise you there are teens sitting at 14, 15, 16 that are like, yo, what's up? What's up? What's up to? That's so, so that's, that's my number three. Give me one more. I just mentioned 15 and 16. That's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the New York Jets. I know for a fact, strong strongest on, I probably could have put this at number one, but it's not as interesting as the others. They're getting calls already. And why? Because the biggest bullseye on anyone's back is Detroit offensive tackle at 16. Now 17. Oh, sorry, 17. So with the Tampa Bay at 15, yeah, they need an edge. They can take it tight. I mean, they need a few things to that point. They need a few things in Tampa Bay sitting there with pick, pick 15, but also picking at 46 and 77. They're chalk, man. It's like one in the, one in the first one. They've seven picks. So they're a team with those needs that we've talked about. They'd like to get a tight end as someone a little, a little bit more dynamic. But before that, they'd like to get a pass rusher. They wouldn't like to. They need a pass rusher. They need a corner back. They need a linebacker. Yeah. So how do we address all these needs? Get a more picks. Our phone's ringing, right? So watch for Tim. Jets are the same at 16. Yeah, there's a chance they could move up if Carnell Tate started or something like that. I think they're more likely to trade back. And so the opportunity, not only the Detroit at 17 has a target on its back, but that's kind of the foundation of all this movement or potential movement. That Detroit then Detroit's not stupid. Detroit knows that there's a target on its back. So they Brad Holmes is like, don't mess with him in the draft. So so don't be surprised if maybe it's maybe it's a flip, flip, flip, Tampa Bay and Detroit or maybe it's going up to Fort, the Ravens. Like the rate. This is what the Ravens do. This is what Ozzy passed down. It's like, it's like generational wealth from Ozzy down to down to a. Ericka Costa and Ericka will sit there in the phone ring and like, yeah, Detroit. Okay. Yeah, well, sure. We'll move down two spots and still get Yawane. If we don't get Yawane, we'll get another offensive line. No, no, Cedique will get. Oh, yeah. Or we'll get a wide receiver or I've heard there's even interested in like a Peter Woods if they move. Just keep an eye on that range of like 14, 15, 16, 17 and the thing I can't get out of my head and I reflected in this mock 5.0. - Yeah, there it is. I was gonna ask you. - How he rose, man. He's not, if anyone who knows how he, he's not sitting there patiently. Just, our pick will come. We'll get our tackle. Take the best one on our board. I keep, there's one they want. And maybe it's Monroe Freelink 'cause the traits in development have a year. Maybe it's Caden Proctor. Maybe it's Blake Miller. But Freelink just feels like an eagle. - Yeah, they did have an offensive line coach change. And I wonder if that's gonna change. - That is good. - I wonder if Chaser coach. - I thought about that multiple times. But those are the four things I'm strongest on. Now let me flip it on you. - Yeah. - You get this mock draft last night. - I appreciate it. Texting you for some, let's talk some, not research, but like let's dig in. - Does this make sense? - Let's do the best football sense. And it's 11 o'clock and I'm exhausted. So you can have a little, little, little. The McShay show is brought to you by Fandall. Did you guys know that you can bet on the NFL draft with Fandall? That's right. You can bet on everything, including which teams will draft which player? Overunders on draft positions. What position a team takes first. And of course, who's going number one overall? Basically, if it's draft related, you can probably bet on it. Couple things I would keep an eye on. All information is going towards David Bailey, Texas Tech, Edge Russia at number two. Get in on that before the numbers just start to skyrocket. Also, Thai Simpson's going to be in Pittsburgh for a reason, whether it's Arizona moving up to get him. The Jets may be surprising us, taking him a little bit earlier. If I had to bet on it, I would say Arizona's the team for Thai Simpson and it will be in round one. 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And this may surprise some people who have watched the show 'cause I'm not the biggest fan of Blake Miller in past protection, but I just think he's such a good fit for this team. He's a glass heater, he's a road grader. He's a tough guy. I love that the Lions have the ability to take a left to their right tackle because even though they lost their left tackle and Taylor Decker, Pennay School can play anywhere. So they can take the best tackle and I have to worry about position fit. Miller would play on the right side. That's where he played in college. So we'll kick over to the left. I think he's getting a day one starter at pick 17 in the draft and a guy that's going to be a great fit in your locker room. - I love that and I love the, we're here at the draft and you've come to a reasonable spot with the players and it's hard to do. - I'm evolving as a human being. - You are. - I actually recognize that. All right, what next? - The Houston Texans getting TJ Parker and I get it. Look, if you're a Texan, you're like, hey man, we got Will Anderson Jr., he's pretty good. And Daniel Hunter is still signed to the 2027. I think it's 15 sacks last year. What are we doing here? You're getting a third. - Yes. - You're getting a third and you're getting with a great spot and I think a player that's been really undervalued by some people because the stats weren't as great last year. Give me a break. Throw on the tape, go watch him at the senior bowl. Look at the workout. This is a player that I really believe when we look back on this draft and we do all these redrafts, he's gonna be a guy that we're gonna wonder how didn't go in the top 15 picks. - I was looking at it last night too. Yeah, offensive tackles that need, right? And so's guard or however they wanna do that. - What needs do they have though? - They don't. - Right. - They don't. And so, here's the thing that I forgot about last night. They pick again at 38, bro. 'til like, you know, whether it's Chase Passantis or a manual Pregnon or Keelan Rutledge, one of those three, at least, is gonna be on the board at 38. And so, yeah, they brought Pregnon in for a visit, by the way, I like looking at the visits late in the process to see and then I go back to last year's. And it's like some teams, if they bring you in, being drafted by him, others, they bring you in, like you're on the short list. - Right. - And some of them, you can look at all the positions, like they brought in these four positions, and then they wind up attacking. So, but they brought in Pregnon, probably not gonna be drafted by the Texans. So it's probably Passantis or Rutledge. - Yeah. - But anyway, Nick Casario has earned this right as the GM with the roster he has built to sit back and take the best player available. And for me, that was Parker in that scenario. - It was the best player, I think there were a couple of wide receivers that were slightly higher, but they drafted two last year. It was best player available at a position where what can make us better this next year when we're trying to make a Super Bowl run? - Yeah. - And like the draft isn't going to solve quarterback play getting better from CJ. - There was a guy there, great, but I don't think there is. - So, what else can we do to support, and support would be another pass rusher? So yeah, that one was intriguing to me, and then they turn right back around the second round and get their guard, you know? - Yeah. - All right, what was, give me a third one. - What about the Seattle Seahawks getting San Diego State corner, Chris Johnson, my guy, through the whole process, really January, but the whole process, my guy. I just love the pick. Look, you could say that, you know, Rik Wolland's gone, but Josh Job's is still there. Like, and he played well enough, I think, to be in, you know, to the driver's seat of being the starter if their roster doesn't change. But Job's not a playmaker. He has two picks over the last two years. He had one pick last year. Chris Johnson, we already know he has a very high football IQ. You give him a guy like Mike McDonald and the things that they can do with that kind of a corner, opposite Devon Witherspoon, man. - Yeah, Job's been up in, and it's always like, Frank D. Feliz, my old baseball coach. - Here we go. - It's been a while, man. - Boy, boys. (laughing) - But, put you up to three in the bat in order. Noseblee. So you wonder like, now that he had Job has to be the guy. - Right. - Does he get, is it a nosebleed situation? So let's protect against that. I've also heard, interestingly enough, don't be shocked if that's a trade-and-stukes spot. Arizona Cardinals. - Don't mind that, that's a good spot. - Arizona Wildcat. For Seattle at 32. - Heroes, I'll say this about that football sense wise. I do wonder, he's really a nickel. Trade-and-stukes is a nickel. He's a nickel safety. - Damn good nickel. - He doesn't have nickel, he even worries. And he's a nickel safety. - Yeah, so I was just gonna say, I've heard that. I do believe strongly that John Schneider wants to dairy in price. I don't know that he was in the 32. I think the number one intel on Seattle is they're gonna trade out. I tried to limit the trades in this, because it's frustrating when you read through the, like a mock draft at the end, and it's like all these trades, it's like what does this even mean? So I tried to not make it messy. And also perfectly, to be perfectly, like blunt, like allow the 32 teams that have a pick, it kind of sucks if you're a sea hawk's band, you go to a mock draft, and we've got a pick in the first round, and now I don't get one. - Right. - So I did that. And also Chris Johnson, I truly believe will go in the first round. I didn't have a perfect spot for him. So I wanted to make sure that he got in there as well. So it's kind of a mixture of different things, but I do think the Giderian price that Notre Dame running back connection is very much real. Okay, and so it could be a 32. But I think it's more likely trade back. You look at the history of those last like seven picks in the first round. It's like average of like three to four of them wind up getting moved. - Right. - So keep an eye out on that. All right, let's do this. - Where you go. - One wild card or some semi- - Wild card. - Yeah. - Love it. - And you started off. - My wild card is, I think you have, all there's receivers going in the, we'll say a 24 to 32, okay? - Yeah, the carnal tape thing was a lot of shrapnel. And I don't believe for a second, he's gonna be sitting there at 16. I think the Jets are among a couple of teams that could wind up moving up to get a receiver. If carnal tape were to fall a little bit, my money would be on that Jordan Tyson's, the first receiver to come off the board. But I wouldn't put a lot of money on it. So I do think, keep an eye on, don't expect, when you do these mock drafts, you try to put them, and then there's one player that starts to fall. And I'm like, that's fine. - Yep. - Right? It's not accurate to where I think that's where carnal tape is gonna wind up going. But every once in a while, there's a player or two in the mock first round, they catch us some shrapnel. Take caught it here. But the other point I wanna make going through this exercise is I felt very comfortable with these receivers falling. And it lines up with the conversation we had like a month, month and a half ago, where I was like, listen, I like all of these receivers. I really like conception on them, what he can do after the catch and with the ball on the sand. I really like David Boston with the contested catches, and you argue that he's a little bit better as a route runner and-- - Denzel Boston with Dave. - Denzel Boston. - I'll take a look. David Boston, I remember him, yoked up receiver. I won't take the other bus. (laughing) All time bus to the top 10. - He was so big. - Yes. And Omar Cooper Jr., so, but I think all the, with so many teams looking for offensive tackles, and then some of these, like there's gonna be a safety that goes, there's gonna be a cornerback or two that go, there's gonna be a guard or two that goes. So the receivers could wind up coming down to the bottom. I was worried at one point, I'm like, I'm not gonna get these guys off the board. - This is what you're stealing my wild card. - Oh, sorry, go. - No, it's good. You actually bought me some time 'cause I should've done this before. That was a bad breath on my part. You got six wide receivers going in the first. I'm actually gonna take the under there. And it's exactly what you're going into right now. It's these offensive linemen. I think it's an offensive linemen. I think it's an edge, and I think it's starting to be a corner class too. I think Colton Hood is gonna go in the first round. Chris Johnson's gonna go in the first. Some of these corners that we liked is maybe early second round. I think are now sneaking into the first. Keep an eye on the Buffalo Bills. I think they need interior offensive line help. I think one of these guards is gonna go. I think your net was going two guards. And with all those positions, those three positions I'm talking about, one of these receivers I think falls into the second round. - I wouldn't surprise me. And you know what? I actually pushed them down so far. And this is another thing. Go back, just go back to my tape. And what I believe in, I don't think they're great, but I think they're better players than anyone's given them credit for. What did I say to you about a month ago about the interior defensive line class? I believe two should go in the first round. Peter Woods and Caden McDonald. And here we are in this final mock draft. And I wasn't doing it for that purpose. The intel is, I mean, honestly, I heard Peter Woods, like the Ravens, if they trade before enough could be interested. I heard that Minnesota has interest with a hard grave in Jonathan Allen. - Both get both gone. - I heard the Houston Texans. Or, Nick's gonna sit back, man. - Take it. - There's an offensive tackle that's great. They're awesome. If there's a defensive tackle, awesome. If there's an edge rush, you're awesome. So don't be surprised if one or both of those defensive tackles go. And so you add those to all the offensive tackles and the edges. - Do you see the Caleb Banks thing too? I saw it on the way in. I'm supposed to his agent's, handing out a letter that he's been cleared or will be cleared and ready to go by the summer. - I think that's awesome, man. And I think he's an awesome talent. I think I, - I'm not saying first, but-- - No, he's the second. - He's one of the most interesting players in this draft of it. - His range is pretty massive. - I'm sure, and yeah, I just know talking to a lot of teams, like he's too talented to last too long, but big guys with foot injuries as we've discussed at Nazim here. - Yeah. - There's a bad track record for that being reoccurring, right? And so it's availability is the most important ability in the NFL and you start to worry about it. Is this gonna be like a three, five, six, seven game per year issue? - Yeah. - Caleb Banks. - What's your wild card? - It's for me. - What is my wild card? (laughing) - So much information swimming around that head. - Dallas is only traded in the first round, one time going back to, in the first, second and third round. 37 opportunities, 37 picks they've had in the draft, dating back to 2014. And to Marcus Lawrence in 2014. - So the last. - Since that pick, they have not traded up. That was the last time they traded up. - Yeah. - Okay. So every year we do this, Jerry's gonna lose his mind. I go cowboys and trade up and give them, they don't do it. And they actually draft pretty well. However, (laughing) I don't envision a trade up to three for Dallas. I don't envision any trade that requires them to package 12 and 20 to occur. I do envision, and I saw Schrager did this. I will never, maybe we go up to three, I mean, we go up to nine with Kansas City Chiefs, if we're Dallas, and we just flip-flopped the four picks. So you get 12 and 20 Kansas City, because you need, you can afford to get what you're looking for, maybe at 12, we can't, and I'll get to that in a second. But you can also at 20, get your offensive tackle, right? And that's a big thing for Andy. On the flip side, Dallas, Dallas, I've already been told that they're looking to trade back from 20, but they really wanna get up a little bit from 12. And why? Because every scenario, it was like a mock draft simulator in my brain in my hotel room last night, texting, and all my notes. There wasn't a single scenario in which Mansor Delain and Caleb Downs were still on the board, or one of the two. And so they won an edge rusher, and there was talk about them moving up for an edge, Bain ain't gonna be there, and we know that Bailey and Reese aren't gonna be there. So now you're saying the three edges gone, the cornerback gone, the safety gone. Yeah, they could sit at 12, and there was some interest in Dylan Thiniman, but it really would rather get Caleb Downs or Mansor Delain. And the other thing that I think is not a far fetched concept is nine. George Pickens right now, they're not a lot ahead way, and I didn't quite grasp that until the last seven, 10 days. CD Lamb, they drafted when they had wide receivers. Yeah. And then you go back to 29, pick 29, and you can, so I'm just saying, there are options there that include Dallas, and I'm not saying it's just Kansas City. What about six Cleveland? Cleveland wants to move back. I had Cleveland taking Caden Proctor, I don't think they're gonna take him at six. I'm just trying not to create a lot of a muddy picture with this mock draft. I think Proctor would be if they trade back a little bit. I look at Caden Proctor as a perfect fit. He's kind of the big guy. They need a left, not a right tackle. Yeah. Don't love it, but it makes sense. So six is a possibility. Nine is a possibility. The problem is seven is in your division. Five's in your division. Seven's in your division. Ten's in your division. So, limited off. So they're all those are NFC East picks. So yeah, keep an eye on Dallas, even though it's not historically what they have done, and it's what the media has gone crazy about. A small move up for Dallas could be something that throws a, I wouldn't say it's a monkey branch into the whole thing, but it could be a little bit of a, oh, here we go, you know. Are we gonna get a 5.1 on the McShay report? People need to look at that. What are we thinking? Putting you on spot. Do you want it? Do I want it? Yeah. Do the people want it? I think they do. If there's a, there's a couple things I'm working on. Sorry, Dan. I've already alerted Dan. I'm not committed to doing more, but there's a couple things that are very easy to tweet. We could clean up right here. What would you change? I wanna get more clarity on Arizona. I don't think I'm gonna get that with the Jeremiah Love situation. It's kind of annoying. Okay. If I were to get information that sounds like Arizona could be dealing, then I'm sticking with Reese there. I do think the one, the one that's, Jeremiah Love, if he doesn't go three, I think could go four. I don't know that he gets there. So then I would give Love for. Tennessee. To Tennessee. Downs five. Read it tomorrow. I think there could be some shifting. You still gotta work it out. There's some. I have it worked out, but I also could be, so like, yeah, there's a chance there's a five point one. There always is. There always is. Yeah. I mean, why not? Right? We're here. Yeah. That it? That's all you got for the mock? That's it, man. I like the show. This is what's on it. There's no sense in going an hour and a half today. We've covered every angle of it. We'll go read it. It's the the ringer dot com slash McShay. You get the whole mock draft. Our top 200 board is up. They already turned it into the huddle report that top 100. There you go. He's the bar. And then you just get a message and just like, yeah, it's up on the site. That's it. That's the final one. And we are we're pumped, man. I hope you guys come join us. We'll give you details. Details will be out. We'll put it, I guess, on the on social at McShay 13 at you. Good. And on we're going to have a live chat throughout the whole the whole show. I miss our guys. I do too. Right. Yeah. I miss our folks in the chat. So come join us. It's six o'clock on Friday, seven o'clock on Thursday working in reverse order. Day one of the draft, which is tomorrow. Or if you're looking around, yeah, it's Eastern time that the draft starts at eight o'clock will be here at seven Friday. The draft starts at seven. We'll be here at six live on Netflix. We're excited, man. There's been a lot of work going on behind the scenes. 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