MLB Trade Deadline With Jeff Passan, Hard Knocks Episode 1, QB Tier List, Mt Rushmore Of Places To Get Drunk That Aren't A Bar + FAQ's

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The Jeff Bezos is the Al Gore's the world. Don't want you to hear these takes that we've got about hard knocks. They're trying to limit our free speech. Hard knocks kind of sucks now, but that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter at all. It was great to see football is 100% back. The highlights for me, I have like two highlights. Yeah, before you do the highlights, I couldn't agree more. Hard knocks, I do not care about hard knocks anymore, but there's something about the first episode of hard knocks where it's seeing the guys in training camp. Sam Darrell did a whole thing about the pads cracking and hearing the music and just them saying the word football over and over. It really is the beginning of like, oh, yeah, football is back. It's like the first leaf falling off the tree. I can feel it coursing through your veins. Football is back. I'm not going to watch probably any more hard knocks, but I always watch episode one that is our promise to you. And yes, go ahead. Give us your highlights. Now my highlights were number one. Coach McDonald does have a son and his son does recognize him. And it's done also, I keep an eye on him because this is a football guy in training. The only words that I think he can speak are football. Yeah, so that was I think that was probably my highlight of the entire episode was his son probably about like a year old just watching football practice pointing outside and just saying football repeatedly. And that was going to be a brother. He's going to be a big brother. So congrats to the McDonald's. Yeah, big bro. And two, it seems like coach McDonald is almost like almost like a therapist when he's in his coach's office. Earlier, that's what they're showing to us, like that long conversation that he had. There's sort of a couple of them. So yeah, he seems like a good coach, not exactly what you dream up when you get in a lab and you try to figure out what coaches, what type of coaches do you want to see delivering that beginning of the season speech on hard knocks to get you really feeling like football is back. He's like a little too cerebral when it comes to that sort of thing. I would like to see like he mentioned Rex Ryan. I would actually just like to see Rex Ryan giving the welcome back speech. Yeah, but overall, overall like it's football. There was grass. There was a ball flying through the air. There was a sound of pads hitting. There was a linebacker showing up in the biggest truck I've ever seen. And they had the blue angels. Yeah, you know what I like about Mike McDonald. He's human. Like you could tell he's a little bit awkward. He's a little uncomfortable talking in front of the, you know, like in front of a big crowd of the opening scene when they're getting their Super Bowl rings. By the way, I have a take. I think Super Bowl rings have gotten too big. Like too big. Yeah, you can't even wear that. You can't. It's pretty much a glove. Yeah, it's not. It's like I would rather have a Super Bowl ring that's really cool that you could wear all the time versus something that is, it looked, it was just insane. They're pressing buttons and shit. It's like a, it's like an Nintendo switch on their finger. Yeah, we've lost the plot on the Super Bowl rings. We need, we do need to dial them back because when they, I saw that ring, I saw the old ring. I thought to myself, the old Seahawks ring looks awesome. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Wouldn't you want something to wear? Yeah, you could wear it all the time instead of just like having it be so big that it doesn't even make sense. But yeah, Mike McDonald's, he's like a real dude. He's just, he seems like a real dude. The, the, the talk with, uh, with Nikki, even more, uh, in the in his office was really cool. He mentioned the Rex Ryan when Rex Ryan said this new hot shot coordinator is dog shit. Um, when he was dog shit to start his career, he just seems like a really good dude. And, uh, yeah, my highlights were bald eagles rocking. They had the bald eagle at the beginning. Uh, the, the, the, the coaches sitting in that room, just talking about we got to get the pads on. Well, no, we'll find out when the pads are on. We don't know if this guy's good until the pads are on. I love that. That's super cut. Um, and then yeah, he, and then I also wrote that he, I know we now know he has kids. So that's it. That was hard knocks episode one. Still is now barking. This is where we're having a whole show. Max, take it away. Well, let's still out of my office. Take away Max. Um, I had three notes. One of them was Rex Ryan. Uh, and I wanted to know, oh, he's also going to be if he's stuck trucking water. Cell is barking on again. Die. Um, you know what? Why don't we do this? Why don't we kick it to ourselves where we're in studio and we have a great show for everyone? We have like, what do we have an hour or two hours that we've already taped? How much do we have? Yeah, we're good. We're good. We have so much show. We've been doing show all day. Memes. What do we got? I, I, I kind of like this chaos beginning. I also realize I just have like bedding behind me that because the National last week, Tony Sheffler slept over my house. So like, I, this is just chaos everywhere. My stone cold Steve Austin thing sick. PFT's back. PFT's back. That's awesome. Yeah. Vass is so sick. I don't know if everyone could see the Vass see that and then you got my kids go mini golf clubs there. PFT, we're just going to kick it to ourselves because we got Stella barking now. You keep cutting it out. We've done like two and a half hours of great podcasting in studio today. So let's do it. Let's hard knocks season episode one. I'm going to give it a B minus and it was also interesting that Hank didn't show up to this because he knew there was going to be highlights the soup bowl. Hey, Stella. How's it going, Stella? All right. Kick it to ourselves back in studio. Okay. Before we get to the rest of the show, Draft Kings this summer, whatever you're watching, baseball golf, soccer, racing. Draft Kings has you covered for every single moment of it. The Draft King Sports app is now available in all 50 states, bringing the game straight to your fingertips, wherever you are from Florida to Texas to California, you're in on the excitement at the speed of sports. Follow every buzzer meter, every walkoff, every photo finish, sweat the moments that matter in real time with the seamless experience, built for the biggest season of the year. 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Before we talk football, we're going to have Jeff passing on to talk some MLB trade deadlines. They won't have a winner. Max, how do you feel about the Phillies? I'm very excited for what the Cubs did. They went and said they were going to get some arms. We got two starters, bullpen arms. Go for it. Don't be afraid of the Dodgers. Just fucking go for it. So good job. Jet. Max. Uh, I wish I had the same opinion as you. You did not feel like you went for it. We did the same thing that David and Browski loves to do every single year, which is like go for it a little bit, but not enough to really make a difference. But to be able to go back to the fan base and say, hey, look, I did this. We have all these good, we have all these good players. You should be playing better. I still think that we have a good ball, ball club to compete. And look, I did this one thing, but that one thing is not enough to compete against the Dodgers in my opinion. We still right now have Aaron Nola pitching in the playoffs as our fourth starter, who is not a major league pitcher right now. He is not a capable playoff pitcher. Who's he pitched for? He pitches for the Philadelphia Phillies. What league do they play in? They play in the national league. What? In the major leagues. He's a major league pitcher. He's statistically, like he's statistically the worst starting pitcher in baseball right now. Right now. He's slated to start the R4 starter. Yeah, you're right. Got it. I wish that he either just didn't do anything and just said this team is not good enough to compete. We gave up our fourth best prospect, who I don't fucking know shit about prospects. Yeah. But people that I that I trust say that he was he was on a track to be one of the best starting pitching prospects in baseball and we gave him up for a guy who is good and he's going to make our lineup better, but our defense is now absolutely terrible. We're moving hit the Luis arise the second base. Bryce and Stott are only plus defender to third base. Alec Bome who is a trotious at first base to first base and Bryce Harper to the outfield. He hasn't played the outfield in years. So we just made our offense slightly better. Our defense, which is already the worst and league significantly worse and we gave up a good prospect. The prospect just for him to say that we're look, look, look, we did this without really, really going all in. The part of the M.O.B. trade deadline giving up prospects, it's it's like, hey, I just hope I don't hear this guy's name in three years. That's especially for your opening for especially for a rental. Zach, did you see? I don't know if you saw, but mobile or got traded. I was a little upset about that. Where's he at? He got traded the angels. It's just heartening. I was looking forward to it. He was supposed to pop off the season. I know. He's supposed to be the one. I know. I know. He can never be the one. Because Zach, when we went to when Zach went to his first Cubs game like early in the season, he was like, put me on to someone and I was like, listen, I love mobile or I think he's going to be, you know, he's got a bad body, but he can hit the ball. He kind of fell off a little bit this year was struggling. They put it. They sent him back down then they traded them. So no longer a cup. He had your angels fan now. Yeah, maybe maybe swap. I'm not sure. You're just a baller fan. Then he dropped and then some things went on and now he's moved on. Yeah. I'm excited though. The Cubs finally, like I actually do think that Bruce Levine sending the tweet, Twinkle D and Twinkle D. Mm. Started, started a chain of events that the Cubs went and went all in for this trade deadline. They're like, we better do something. We better actually make the people happy because we're getting called out and people send they seem to agree with the writer that was calling them Twinkle D and Twinkle D. Twinkle D and Twinkle D. Hank, are you happy? I'm excited. I feel like I'm not a 162 or I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I've been locked in on the Red Sox all year. Obviously this last month, greatest month in team history and then they went forward with the trade deadline. I've started on the show before the season has started till the trade deadline ends. This is where you can make a run. They're mid run. I'm on the bandwagon and it's exciting. Yeah. I think the race did good. I mean, the race going for it too, like Freddie Peralta, Liam Hicks, those are good trades for the race. The Yankees. Yankees. They're going for it. Yeah. The Nats podgers. It was a good, I'll say this, I did not want to be a seller at the deadline, but the most recent series against the Dodgers getting just getting your ass kicked or excuse me against the Braves, getting your ass kicked for straight games. It makes it easier to become sellers. It's easy to say, okay, now I get it. Let's just say fuck it, punt for next year. It does stay. I'm glad that we kept CJ Abrams. That was my one big worry that we would end up getting rid of him. And I still do have that worry. And until I see an extension for him or James Wood, I feel like this, the front office is not really prepared to commit to handing up big contracts. But I guess we got a lot of, we got a lot of arms from all the guys that we dealt. Luis Garcia, if you're going to trade a guy like that, trade them in the middle of the best season of his career. Same with Curtis Meade, same with, I mean, Forest Griffin, great story, by the way. Forest Griffin traded to the Guardians. He was pitching in Japan for like the last three seasons. And we brought him over, developed him a little bit, had the best season of his career. We're able to trade him. So all in all, it sucks being a seller, but at least if we're going like two and two against the Braves, if we split that series, then I would be sitting around and be like, maybe we should go for it. Maybe we should add a copy. If you're going to go out, it's good that we got swept. And then, and then last night, we saw just like how bad that bullpen continues to be against the Phillies. I was kind of shocked. The Braves and the Brewers were the big teams that's like, it didn't feel like they pushed. They have teams that are definitely championship caliber teams and they didn't go like big game hunting. So that one was a little confusing, but maybe they just think they have enough. Yeah. There was one wild thing that came out from the Nats. They traded Luis Garcia to the Yankees. One of the guys they got for Luis Garcia was Jack Sebert. And then Jack Sebert's mom tweeted this out a couple days ago, her son had DMed the nationals back in 2015, telling them, hey, trade for this kid. He's going somewhere. And then so his mom said, proud mom moment, it's temporary, proud mom moment, or son DM the nationals when he was 13 years old, yesterday they traded for him. Baseball is weird and wonderful. That's tampering. He tampered with himself. Yeah. Yeah. That's why he got to keep an eye on him. Middle school boys. We're going to Jeff Passen. We'll break down more of the trade deadline. Let's talk some football before we get to Hotsie Cool Throne. We have Bijon got paid, big time paid. What was his 75 million, three year extension worth up to 75 million with 51 million guaranteed. That's pretty, it's pretty damn good for running that. Yeah. I guess the Zoom call worked. Yeah. That was a big one. Someone else just got paid, too, right? Well, I know. Do we talk about Crystal Lava the other day? I think we mentioned. Yeah, Zayflowers have paid today too. That's right. Zayflowers got a lot of money. That's right. That's right. 40 million four years. Travis Hunter looks like he's a real man now. That's right. He wasn't a man before. He wants to play every snap on offense and defense this year. Yeah. Yeah. And then we have Kenny Pickett starting officially on Thursday night, which will be fun. Yeah. Excited about that. It's football. Very excited. Okay. And then the other big news in the NFL, we finally got our QB tears, our offseason tears. This is from the athletic. I think Mike Sando does it every year. And he basically talks to a panel of 21 executives, 29 coaches overall. Each voter is placed 35 veteran quarterbacks into five tiers from best tier one to worst tier five. And then he waits it all and spits it all out. And we have. So you guys stopped me when you think that there's an issue. I saw a couple of issues that maybe come up for the show. Patrick Mahomes number one, Josh Allen and Matthew Stafford tied it to and Joe Borough at four. That is tier one. Yeah. I feel I guess you could make an argument Lamar and Joe Borough like, hey, what's yeah. That was my. That was my issue. Yeah. Joe Borough, great quarterback. Love Joe. The the leagues better when Joe Borough was healthy and playing football. And the last let's call it like three, three years. I feel like I feel like it's gotten to the point where we can say Lamar Jackson should be ahead of Joe. Cause we're doing a lot of like Joe, if all the stars align, Joe Borough should be top four. I think, but Joe Borough two years ago, remember that year where he was, it was like 43 touchdowns, nine interceptions. Yeah. Basically carried that terrible team and they started slow. He could have won MVP if they got in the playoffs. Their defense has just been so, so bad. There's that stat out there that like the teams basically any, uh, Joe Borough in games when his offense scores more than 30 points are like 30 and 15 and every other quarterback when their offense scores more than 30 points are like 90% win percentage. Yeah. So I'm okay with it. I think you go one way. I think maybe it's not Joe Borough shouldn't be in tier one is Lamar Jackson should also be in two. Yes. Jackson is, is five, Justin Herbert six, Dak Prescott seven. That's a big jump from our, from our top 17, 14. Yeah. Well, last year he was 17. So that's a 10 spot jump from a year ago and then big jump since just the take you were. Yeah. Drake made it eight, Jared golf at eight. So they're tied. Jordan, love it. Ten Brock, Party and Kale Williams tied at 11, Jane Daniels at 13, Baker made the field of the 14, Sam Donald the 14, they're tied, Trevor Lawrence and then jail and hurts. That's tier two. Tier two is massive. - Massive. - Big tier. - They made the whole plan out of tier two. - Yeah, which is, I get it, but these are all quarterbacks that have like, that are very talented with question mark. I'll tell you what, I don't want to admit this. - Yeah, that's great. - Max, I actually agree with what you're about to say. - Max, I know what you're gonna say. - Max, cover your ears. - Yeah. I don't want you to hear this. I'm about to pay a compliment to somebody. I don't want you to have any evidence to cover 'em. - Okay, thank you, Max. - We're not covered. - Okay, so, Jalen Hertz is 17 on this respect. - Jalen Hertz, one, he beat Patrick Mahomes in a Super Bowl. He's been-- - I'll play in two Super Bowls. - It's the quarterback, tier list. - Yeah. - Not the running back, okay. Okay, I guess that makes more sense. Never mind, Kerry. - I saw it and I was like, Jalen Hertz feels like he's too low. And Sam, Donald just won a Super Bowl. - Right, that was a little confusing to me. - But the tier two list is, the tier two's are the, like the tier ones are, you win because of these guys. Tier two is, they can be that guy, but sometimes they're not. - Right. - That feels good. And then Bonix is in tier three. - Hank, I got a question for you real quick. - Yes. - Drake May, he's tied for eight. He is two spots behind Justin Herbert. What are your thoughts? - Herbert's been in the lead longer. - What about Jack? - Press God. - He's also been in the lead longer, okay. - Drake Mays. - Third year. - But this isn't about like who's older. This isn't quarterback aged years. - I mean, like you, we saw what Jane Daniels, like having one good year, you gotta prove it over time. Those guys have played well for more time. - They are giving Dac a lot of credit this year. He did play really good last year and they've got CDN Pickens coming back, which is gonna be massive for them. Would you, all things being equal? Would you rather have a quarterback who is freshly engaged, a quarterback who is married, or a quarterback who is divorced, or just broken up, I guess, for Dac. - Married. I think freshly engaged, you're still trying to prove it. You know, not actually married yet. - Right. - Still trying to prove you're married. - Yeah, but you gotta do planning and it's like you still gotta be like, if you're married, you don't have to war, you know, you're locked in, you can take care of that. If you're engaged, you gotta planning and talking and it's a lot more that goes on. - Talk to your woman, it's a talk to your woman. - It's a talk to your woman, it's a talk to your woman. - Yeah, well, he's gonna go home and he's gonna have his own opinion. - Yeah, no, I hear you talking that shit. - That shit's about as long as it's a talk to you. - How much can you do? - We have to hear about Max's fucking wedding last year. Like that's what Justin Herbert's team is. - Yeah, it's hard to talk about my life. - Justin Herbert's gonna go home. - I know, but that's what happens. - They often say a marriage doesn't start till you stop talking. - He's gonna put the playbook down when he goes home and he's gonna pick up the binder. The binder of things that he has to review. Like all the decisions she made that day, he has to go through them and then pretend to have an opinion on all of them. It's gonna be exhausting for him. I think I would want, if you're just getting to the league, single. - Yeah. - And then after like, you get that second contract and then you get married. - So the only other note I had, well, there's two more. One, I know that we're biased on this show. We wear our bias on our sleeve. Tyler Shock was 26th. I'd take him over almost everyone in front of him. Like in that tier. - Where they be not boned next. - Is Levis on there? - Will Levis is not on the list, no. - But I would tell him Tyler Shock, come on. He should be hired. - Cam Ward is 25, but there's no Will Levis. - Tied for 26th, he's tied with two. - But I feel like people didn't watch the games last year, if you haven't tied for 26th. Yeah, like he's, I'd take him over the guys in front of him. I would agree. I think it's just, again, a massive win for any Panthers fan out there. Bryce is 22. You would, if you were to say two years ago that Bryce Young would be listed as 22, you would probably be pretty pumped about that. - Yeah. - And the fact that he's only like one and a half spots, two spots away from CJ Stroud. That's a big win for Panthers fans. Then Tyler is 23, nine is 34. I don't know how they did that. Do they have access to the depth chart? Are they doing like proactive propaganda for Kyler Murray? I don't get it. - It's, it's also crazy to look at CJ Stroud. I think 2024, he was the eighth ranked quarterback and he's now down all the way to 20th. - Yeah. - That's a precipitous drop. - It is precipitous. What about Roger's 19? - That's fine. It is what it is. He was seven, two years ago. So he's, he's dropped a little. So Dishon is 31, Shadr, 35. - Yeah, both of them. - So the Browns have like almost an embarrassment of riches. - They have a lot. - It looks like, so the Browns and the Falcons and the Vikings, I think those are the three teams that have more than one quarterback on this list. That's pretty impressive. - Yeah, the, the Browns, you can, I mean, having two quarterbacks in the top 35, it's pretty, pretty awesome. - Quantity over quality. - That's pretty sick. - Yep, I'm just looking if there's any cheer changes that some of the, some of the risers. So Joe Burrow was ranked three last year. So he, I guess he's gone down a little. And Lamar Jackson was ranked four, I believe last year. He was in tier one last year. He's dropped to tier two. I don't know what it, I guess, I guess that I'm not making the playoffs. - Yeah. - I feel like the Mars gonna have a good season from like not the John Harbor. John Harbor is a very good coach, but just something different is gonna, and Dak went from 12 to 7 this year. - Big jump. - That's a huge jump. - Big jump and Gino went from three to four. - Tier wise. - Tier wise. - Tier wise. - Yes. - Yeah. - I think that Trevor Lawrence could also be higher on this list. - Yeah, probably. - Probably. - All right, so we have Oldie here to give us his tier, you're gonna give us your top 10? - Oldie, the instructions were for Oldie, no computer, no Google, no phone. - So you could've forgotten. - Off the top of the head, Oldie's top 10 quarterback tiers. And what were you writing it? Is it just a piece of cardboard? - Piece of cardboard, yeah. - Okay. - From one of the boxes there. - Okay. - There's nothing better than walking into the office and seeing the Timbits can be in like, yeah. Oldie's here. It's like Omar is coming. - Pretty incredible. - There's donuts for four days. - donuts and did you check a bag this time of candy or was this carry on? - No, I had my luggage. I was carrying on backpack carry on. A whole big bag of all dressed, hickory sticks and the one bag and then as soon as I get into the airport, I go down to Timmy's. I get to the order. I don't even order a coffee. I go up and I go to the election she says, you're back again. And I say, yes miss, how's it going? Order two dozen donuts, 150 Timbits, and there's like nine people behind me like, what is this guy doing? And then I get it in a recycling bag because it's so heavy. And then I try to get on the plane, maybe it's like that's, you can't have that much stuff. And I'm like, no, it's okay. I gotta get it down to the boys and yeah, I'm good to go. And she's like just coming zone two and I was down to the back 40. - I love that the lady at the airport Tim Hortons knows Ode. Oh yeah, and it's familiar with Ode. - Well, they probably have them on a watch list for smuggling like sweets. - Yeah, she's like another couple weeks back and I'm like, maybe a month, but yeah, I never know, a couple weeks we'll see what's up and she's like, we'll see you soon, dear. - Yeah, all right, so give it to us. - Okay, I just went off the old school brain here. Coconut College, no knowledge. Baker Mayfield, gotta go number one, he's my dog, Box Fan. - Okay, okay, okay. - Zach knows what I'm talking about. Lamar Jackson, great runner. Three, Josh Allen for the Mafia, Newfield. He's gotta do something out there. Four banger, Jalen Daniels, this is his year. - I mean, Jalen Daniels, for Kansas. - Yeah, Jalen Daniels. Four banger, five, Caleb. Let's go. - Okay, all right. - Healed to the windy city. I mean, they gotta figure out it. You guys gotta figure out a stadium here. - Yeah. - They gotta get something going. Sixth banger, Jalen Hertz. He's still out there grinding for Maxi. - Hey, no. - He's still out there. - Nice. - Drake Mayo, it's time to shine there, buddy. Enough with the moment. You gotta go. - Okay, so wait, what number's Drake? - Drake seven banger. - Okay. - J.J. McCarty, I mean, McCarty. I mean, this guy's not the greatest quarterback. I just like the Vikings. - He's close to Canada. - Yeah, it's close to Canada. - He's good. - He's good. - Yeah, he's good for Jerry. I mean, I don't know how many years he's kicking on. That's like this. We gotta get back something. - Do you guys think that if the Cowboys win the Super Bowl, Jerry Jones will die? - I think so. I think within probably a couple of months, he'll just kind of like fade out and be like, this is what I was thinking around for you. - That's the final final. - Thank you, boys. - Yeah, thank you very much. Sign off. And then last but not least, old school legend, Aaron Rogers. - Okay. - Just because he's out there running his mouth, like a hot animal, he's still out there. Just gave it to people. So I love to see that. - You're just thinking of people you know in this office. - Yes, so notable players left off, Patrick Mahomes, not in the top 10. Matt, you Stafford, not in the top 10. Justin Herbert, not in the top 10. Jared Goff, not in the top 10. - No, don't like those guys. - Okay. - We love those guys. - Those guys are golf. - No, those guys are all dogs. I just, that was off my brain. It kind of felt old school because it was like, you know when the teacher tells you like, go look in the dictionary to try to explain that word. But if you don't know how to explain the word, how can you look it up in the dictionary? So I just went off, old school off my brain, and that's what came to the, that's what came to the oven. - Hang on, pack up just one second for it. So if the teacher says, if I look up a word in the dictionary. - Yeah. - When you look up the word in the dictionary, and then it would give you the explanation. - Yeah, but if I'm asking how to spell the word. - Oh, I got you. - I got you to spell the word. - You got to say guess. - Go look in the dictionary. and figure it out, I don't even know where to start. - Yeah, 126 chance, yeah. - Exactly. - Let's pick a letter. - Pick a letter. - Okay, well, Oldie, great list, thank you. If you're listening to this right now, there's a very good chance that Oldie is still live on bar stool after dark. That is why he's here. They are attempting so on Tuesday night, they started their attempt to get a hole in one, their longest putt ever, which is 157 yards, which is a strict, that's a par three hole. That's like a. - Seven, eight, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, eight, shoot, go. - Where the wind is going, but so they're going till they get it. I'm almost, I'm gonna guarantee that as you're listening to this, see, they're gonna be just pull it up on bar stool after dark. - Oldie, are you like from a cardiovascular standpoint, are you feeling okay? - I've been drinking so much water today, like I just need to keep my eyes on you. - I know, I'm talking about like your breathing, body armors, you're breathing pretty deeper. - I'm like the heaviest I've ever been, I'm like the biggest, I need those breeze strips on my nose, like I should get the Darth Vader mask on, like I need to check it. - Ventilate, you need to be intubated. - I need to be on a treadmill. - You're a little bit over that. - I know I am. - Are you weezing just from giving a top 10 quarterback list? - Yeah, it's not easy out here, just picking it off the top of the brain cells like that. - That's true, I mean. - I just want you to be okay, I want you to be healthy. - No, I'm good, I'm good, I'm trying to get better. - All right, we'll also want to send a shout out. If you haven't yet, go right now, pre-order, August 18th, Anderson book shop, get your order, put it in now, or you're not going to get the autograph from all the boys in the house here, okay? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Please go out pre-order right now, it's easy. Click your fingers, hit the little side button, pay for it automatically, why not grab two? - Love it, thank you, Aldi. - Thank you, love you guys. - All right, everyone tune into Aldi, he's probably live still. All right, let's do Hatsi Cool Throne, then we will get to our Mount Rushmore, and then Jeff Pass and talking to more baseball. Hatsi Cool Throne brought to you by Twisted T. Summers here, and so is the Twisted T Summer Party Pack. Twisted T is a refreshing hard iced tea made with real brewed tea and 5% alcohol. They also have a new summer party pack has a brand new Twisted Lemonade. It's a refreshing hard lemonade made with real lemons. 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And then ESPN just said we have no comment. - Oh. - So, tough, tough look. - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. - You gotta at least try and stay in strong, but I don't, obviously, I guess I don't wanna-- - You just showed up with what's for sure. - Yeah, but it's very funny thing. - But then ESPN is like, on ESPN. - Right, that's why, and then ESPN just being like, yeah, no comment. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Tough look. I think ESPN's just terrified of lawsuits and all times. - But they had-- - They had Rodgers on. They're airwaves. - Yeah. - Right. - How do you think Rodgers can be this year? - I used to be good. - Yeah? - Yeah. - I'm a believer, a job been wrong. I think, I mean, I think, I'm a believer that if you were a high level quarterback at any point, you can still, like, to Sean Watson, I think it's gonna be good. - Yeah. The only thing I would say about the mobility shit. - No, it's true, like, it's true. But I, I've thought, like, the last few years when Sean Watson, like, yeah, all the stuff off the field, but like, he's, if he plays at a high level, he'd be great. - It is crazy how, like, to Sean, like, he was a really, really good quarterback. He was probably, he was, if not tier one, like, right on that edge, like, top five quarterback. And then, people found out that he got jacked off, and then he sucked at playing sports. I guess, weird how mentally, that type of stuff will fuck up your game, and he just, yeah. Hank, I'm with you. I think he's somewhere deep inside. - And Rogers has been terrible. Like, we've, you know, watched all of this games, and it's like, all right, it's Rogers, though. He can lead this drive, like, fourth quarter, two-minute drill, it's Rogers, and it hasn't happened, but. - Maybe Mike McCarthy brings it out of him. - Yeah, I believe that, but it's probably not the case. - He told Mike Silver that he was actually sick before their playoff lost to Houston. - I don't think they were winning that game anyway. - Probably not. They lost 30 to six. And he was like, I remember how he was like a fever. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay, are you gonna say it, PFT? Which one? - Both the Steelers? - This might be the year. (laughing) - You know what? They could win, ah! - You know what? What if the Steelers finished eight and nine? They finished below 500, but then they won a playoff game. - Hosted a playoff game? - Yeah. - And won it at home, yeah. - This could be, they could win us playoff game this year. - They might win one playoff game this year. Outside of that, no. - Yeah. - It feels like the Steelers made the playoffs a billion years in a row, but they haven't made the playoffs. - Right, because of how they've lost in the playoffs. It's like, that wasn't a playoff team. - Yeah, like last year was not, they weren't even close to competitive against Texas. Remember the year, I think the year before was the Ravens? - Yeah. - Look at that one. - It was a really odd thing where Steelers fans would be like, you'd finish the season, you would make the playoffs, and then Steelers fans would dread that week leading into the playoff game. - Yeah. - 'Cause they're like, yeah, that's gonna suck. We're not a playoff team. - Okay, cool turn. - My cool turn was John Rom. - Oh, why? - Oh, hi, that's interesting. Monday, Q info, who's great, great fall in Twitter, legitimate source, like he's an insider. He put a tweet saying multiple people I spoke with, including players, Liv Golf could still be owed, and some players could be owed up to 250 million combined from contracts they signed. The biggest portion of the lump sum is John Rom, who is allegedly still owed as much as 150 million. - Yeah, that's not a cool turn. - Wait. - He's like a four-gong conclusion at libel file for bankruptcy, so almost no chance. Rom and others owed will get all the money. It could be converted into equity if they find investors for Liv 2.0 and the players decide to stay. So John Rom went from being a player in a league, just getting paid a salary, to he might own like 60% of Liv 2.0. - An owner of a league that is bankrupt and is not viable. Curriculum. - Like equity in that is worth zero. - No, but wasn't like the whole Dodgers TV thing because of bankruptcy? - No, no. - Yeah, very, I don't know. - Am I wrong? - No, 'cause I read about the Dodgers immediately. - They were easily baseball. - I read about that so many times that it's just easier to be like the Dodgers are cheating and it's not fair. - If you get in at the ground floor, and you have a big state like that, that's valuable. - But they would have to be, it would have to continue in flourish. - Yeah, I mean, big cat, look at where you've come from. You're on your high horse like parcel, people didn't believe in barstool. People thought you were crazy for leaving your job and like, all right, I got a little equity in this upstart company, now look at you. - That's a great point. - That could be John Robb. - John Robb. - It could be John Robb in five years. - You're right, you're right, it's really good for you. - You're right, you're so right. - So like, John Robb's gonna buy it back from, - No, he's just gonna get it for a dollar. - He's gonna get all the money. - Yeah. - What if they sold it to John Robb for a dollar? - Yeah, then he'd be in a great spot. - So you think John Robb will take the equity in Liv versus trying to actually make money and play on the PGA tour? - Yeah, it's 150 mil. - No, no, no, that's not 150 mil, though. - 150 mil of stuff. - That's what he's, oh! - Yeah, so he's getting that in percentage. - Which could be way more than 150 mil. - Yeah, right. - It could be 150 billion. - Right, right. - All they need is like some super rich investor with unlimited money from the Middle East to invest in them. - It can be from anywhere. - Yeah, it does have no discrimination. - I'm like, that's a limited mindset that you've got. And John Robb. - Yeah, people look at that story like it's a bad thing. - Yeah, right. - Right. - But like, it's not. - It's not. - Right, the fact that they don't have-- - It's a great opportunity. - Like, that they don't have any investors is actually a great thing for the golfers on the tour because imagine what if they did get an investor. - Right, like, like, I'll not believe in Liv when they fail with an unlimited bankroll. - Yeah, right, yeah. - Until that happens, I'm gonna believe in them. - Yeah, if they find themselves somehow hypothetically, if they find like the one investor or a public fund that would be willing to spend whatever it took to prop up Liv as a golf lead. I don't even know if that person exists out there, but if they were to find that one person whoever it might be, then this thing, I'm sure it would be a massive success. But we will, I guess we'll never know until we find some public investment fund that would be willing to throw like, I don't know, hundreds of millions of dollars. - There's like five billion. - Yeah, so I'm like that. But can I throw out a hypothetically? - Sure. - Let's say, okay, which would you rather have? The Liv golf tour gets an investor, absolutely crushes it, flourishes, lasts for the next 100 years. - I don't know what you could say, that's gonna take option two. - Well, I'm trying to think what would be fair is out like. I think you would take Patriots who roll over that. - Yep. - Bruin Stanley Cup victory. (laughing) - You're such a-- - I would take Bruins, I would take Bruins. If John Rom wanted to cut me in on some equity, but like I have no, I have no-- - Your pause. - If I had invested interest. - How about this, how about this? - The live exists for another hundred years, or you get down to an eight handicap? - I mean, I'll get down to an eight handicap. If I don't take lived, do I never get down to an eight handicap? - Never get down to an eight handicap. - You're capped exactly where you are, you never get better. - Oh, that's, there's no point in 12. - What if you get to a 12? - No, I mean-- - Eight handicap. - The fun of golf is trying to progress. You know, the numbers are-- - Bruin, you'll never get better. - You'll never get better. - Yeah, that sounds awful. - The fun of golf is playing. - I might not be getting better, but like in my mind right now, I'm gonna be, I ain't getting better. - What about live lives for a hundred years? Or I can snap my fingers and you're scratched tomorrow. Scratch tomorrow. - Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. - But you love live. - But you love live. - Live two point lives. - I believe, is what I believe. - You believe. - You believe, yeah. - What does live 2.0? It's louder. - Yeah. (laughing) - But louder, but even louder. - Golf, but even louder. (laughing) - There's none more loud. - There's more speakers. There's more speakers on the floor. - No, sir, there's just, it's so loud. What, what max? - I just, it's, it's, it's never good. - I know you don't care about live. - I want it to the max. - Oh, don't care, man. - Here's what's insane how little I care about it. - Here's why I care so deeply about live is because it's such a ridiculous league. (laughing) That people, that, that somehow managed to, to weasel their way into the national discourse. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no oil to give the Saudi government enough money right now. That's what creates oil. Yeah, it probably billions of dead dinosaurs. Billions of dead dinosaurs, there are last wishes where I hope that you can sign Cam Smith. Dinosaurs. Use my body. Yeah. Go out there and recruit Ian Polter. You're all, everything that you want in life is based on triceratops that died hundreds of thousands of years ago deep below the, probably hundreds of millions of millions. Yeah. Yeah, whatever dinosaurs, no one knows. Yeah. I know there's like, there's, there was like six extinctions. Oh, yeah. I watched in Netflix shows too much, too much AI, but I took my kids to the field. It was like a lot. There was, there was a hundred million years of apps. Yeah. It was like, wait, I thought there was just one big one. And T-Rex lived way closer to us than it did to the Stegosaurus. Yeah. I think I told you guys, you can go smell the, the breath of the T-Rex so, yeah, it smells terrible. Awful. Wait till 3.0. Or 3.0. Oh, my God. I mean, dude, Steve Jobs, what happened? What happened? What happened? What happened with Apple? He died. Was that successful at first? No. Did he get kicked out of his company? Yes. Did he come back again? And it was the strongest company in the world? Yes. Yes. Is he way smarter than, uh, that's the old regime? Is he way smarter than a league that said, hey, we'll play less golf, but we'll do it in shorts. Also, yes. But it's all about to come back. Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah. You think Greg Norman's sitting by his phone. What do you think, Max? I'm, I'm over it. All right. I'm not. Thoughts are on PFT. I never wanted to die. No, it's a good combo. I needed to go forever. This is a great combo. Um, what Max? I hope you just say something with the wizard. It's a start. I mean, I, I, I could dig deep if you wanted me to, well, we have to hit the quota. No, go. Just do a regular hot seat. Don't. He's Googling now. I mean, we might extend Anthony Davis. All right, hot seat with the wizards might extend Anthony Davis. That's, that's my wiz, that's my wizards conversation. Uh, no, my hot seat is, uh, is the substation and the 49ers. Mike Evans, he, uh, he heard his quad and I have no idea if it's a serious injury. I hope it's not, but, um, the 49ers social media staff has found themselves in, in quite the predicament, which is their paid based on engagement and the numbers that they generate. And then you sell sponsorships, obviously, for the team based on what the social media accounts do. And they know that anytime they have a training camp video that has the substation in the background, that thing is going to do numbers online. Mm-hmm. However, it's going to be a discussion of, uh, your team continues to hurt your own players with this, uh, you know, however much of pseudoscience it might be. But the 49ers are still going to continue to post about the, like, they're not posting about the substation. Yeah, but they are. But it's going to be featured because they know, yeah, that it's going to be good for the numbs. I don't know if Mike Evans is, is seriously hurt if this is more of a precaution, but it's definitely going to be like, uh, confirmation bias anytime somebody gets hurt Yeah. For the Niners all season. Yeah. Um, it's just going to be, it's going to be a substation to 100% mm-hmm. There's also a substation Twitter account now that has like, I saw that 10,000 followers. It's ominous. It's ominous. It's ominous and it's, it's directly threatening players. Correct. It told Kittle, like, just way. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that. I got my on you. I'm going to report that. Yeah. Band that guy or a community noted, um, then my cool throne is Carrie Underwood. He's back, and there's a new anthem this year for Sunday, football. Okay. Yeah. That's a bullshit. Yeah. I'm on hand. That's it. They're going to, that's going to, that's going to get changed in two weeks. Yeah. People are going to be. They've done this before. What do you mean? No. Do you wish for what? Waiting a, waiting all day for Sunday night. That's how every Sunday nights. Right. Nice to start. Right. Agreed. So I don't know if it's, you know what? I haven't thought about that. This might be a hot seat for NBC then. Yeah. Because I just, I just assumed that it was going to be a new version in that, like, they come up with a different phrase to rhyme with, uh, like Chris is the best on TV. You know, like they do it on a weekly basis. I imagine that she goes in the studio, like once a month and records what, what are going to be the intro lines for that weekend. But with that count as a full new anthem, I don't think that it does. I don't know why we have to do some research. We have to do some massive research because like, they, they should not change the, the Sunday night anthem is perfect as it is. Yeah. A brand new version of the iconic anthem is on its way. I don't like the sound of that. Mm-hmm. You put it up, you said cool thrump. Yeah. But then I changed it after, because I, I had assumed it was like what they do every year, week, week. This makes it sound like they're actually going to change the entire thing. No. And I'm not. I'm not downwind. I've got my eye on it. Yeah. Uh, okay. Uh, Hank, because we have, uh, a new fart of the year. So people are talking about his fart of the year. What? That would be a cool thrump. Well, no, because everyone's bringing up your fart of the year now. Mm-hmm. In relation to this last year. Yeah. Right. But, uh, there's a horrific fart attack that sent moviegoers running out of the theater in the middle of the new Spider-Man. Uh, and it was a ridiculous, what? There's only like, what? How many people are, could actually be affected by a fart? If it was really bad, if Dean, one viewer sent to, to ruin a whole segment of like four rows of your shit. I think you had four rows behind, like, he shit in a movie theater. Uh-huh. Yeah. No, he shit. That's, that's, that smells not getting all the way back there. But he shit. But he shit. There's probably 15 people that are even within range of that fart. But we, we could have, what if somebody threw up? Yeah. Throwing up a poop that, that's a stronger scent that travels and sticks. I'm saying like, if the fart's bad, that somebody in the local area pukes, yeah. And then that puke makes somebody else puke. And then before you know it, it's our theater spew. You never seen stand by me, I have, I have, I watched in school, you know, family guy was, the scene was just stand by me, no, that part, I, I, again, like I, I watched, stand by me in, like, high school in the class, hanky, and it was born, you didn't like any of the acting? Nah, the, the, the, uh, the kid, Corey Feldman, oh, the other quarter, no, hanky. It's a great movie. Yeah. What do you get? 89% of Rotten Tomatoes, 94% popcorn meter. Isn't it like an anniversary of that movie or something? I've never seen it either. Well, you're a hater. Yeah, I've never seen it. That's good to know. Came out like 1974. It came out in 1986, but it's a great movie. Never seen it. Like we, like, it's actually funny that we're like, like, we joke about Jared, like he was in an awesome, awesome. No, I, yeah, they taught in school. They taught it. That's where I watched it. We watched it in class. If you ever see a dead body, yeah. So wait, what do they teach you about the movie? Uh, Tony pie. No, it was like, uh, it was like an elective class. I had, it was honestly a great class. We just sat and watched movies like we watched like the godfather and, and stay by me. Some of the old, like black and white movies, Hitchcock movies. and my teacher would just break him down of why it was like a classic movie. - That actually sounds like an awesome class. - It was a great class. - Yeah, it was a great senior elective class. - Don't look on the train tracks. - Also hot seat is memes because on Sunday show, he said that we need another earthquake. And then California's top earthquake expert, this is like when we're in a simulation because it was maybe like 12 hours after meme said that he's wishing an earthquake on LA. He said California's top earthquake expert issues chilling new warning on the big one, it could be tomorrow. - Hmm. - Good timing, memes. - Memes, yeah. - Yeah, when you're hot. (laughing) - I'd probably should've said from my preemptive take that the jets were gonna break their playoff drought, but I might just be god, so. - You could be. - Could be. - Memes might be god. - Yeah. - Whatever I say happens is gonna happen. - Yeah. - So what are you calling for next episode? - He check. - No. - No. - No, no, no. - Not gonna do it. - Not gonna do it. - Okay. - I apologize to the B-O-L-I. - Okay, and then my cool throne is the Bears because this actually just happened a second ago, but Darnel Wright signs. And this is weird phrasing by InRaport. Would you guys agree? The Bears and All Pro, off at the tackle, Darnel Wright have agreed to terms on a fat new deal to make him one of the NFL's highest paid per me and Jay Fowler ESPN. That's weird. I think you're talking about a butt. - Yeah, fat new deal. Also a cool throne because Kobe Bryant is only out for eight to 10 weeks, which we, Eddie had a great, it's a miracle. - Yeah, Eddie had a great point on wake up arsel today, which I think we need to enact everywhere because everyone has gone through this as football fans. The training camp injury, when you're not watching, 'cause there's no cameras. And you see instantly, cards coming out, player throws his helmet, players emotional, teammates are going up to the cart, all those bad ominous tweets. Eddie said that every single injury, no matter how big or how small in training camp, cards should come out. 'Cause then when you get the news, like I thought Kobe Bryant was out for the year. I thought he was gonna not play for the Bears for like 15 months. I was like, this fucking sucks. It's our big off season signing. And then it comes back to its eight to 10 weeks. I'm like, that's a miracle. Like we're good. So I think we need to just set the expectation that every injury is the worst possible. And then you get the good news and it's a great relief. - I would go a step further and say that every player entering or exiting the practice field, regardless of injury, everyone's got their own card. - Yeah. - So nobody walks back. - There is nothing worse though than seeing the tweet, X-Player throws his helmet in like, Disgusting after an injury. - That's the one I look, yeah, like the Teddy Bridge was. - What are you gonna say? - I wanna go one step further and they should stop saying weeks and just saying what week of the NFL season they go. - I agree. - Because eight to 10 weeks meet right now is fine. - But I can't put that math together of what that actually meet. - It's about week five. - Yeah, weeks three to five return is what you need to hear 'cause that sounds like nothing. - Yeah. - Eight to 10 sounds like a lot, but then there's more weeks before the regular season starts. - The thing is, if this happened during the season, we would be like, this is the worst injury ever. - Oh my God, what a terrible injury. - We need a chart. - The fact that it happened at the start of training camp, we're like, I just, everyone's nicked up this time. - We can't wait. - Yeah, coming back, yeah. - What we need, Max, is we just need a chart where it's like, so it's the reverse where it's like, now if you get injured, you can go to the chart and be like, all right, here's when you come back. So like when we get to week 14, it basically says, anything over four to six weeks you're out. - You're fucked. - Yeah, you're fucked. 'Cause like the clock just keeps ticking down. 'Cause yeah, you're right. You do that, you do the math in your head, and you're like, oh shit. But yeah, this is early enough in August. I thought it was like, when the cart comes out, and it's just like, this is fucking terrible. - 10 weeks is bad, 10 weeks is bad, but. - That's the thing, it's August first. - Yeah, we're basically still in July. - Right. Yeah, almost June. - Yeah. - Okay, Zach, finish this off before we get to our Mount Rushmore. - My hotsi this week is going to be Clay Thompson. So here recently, Kevin Durant was responding to a post, kind of comparing the two super teams. Golden State and the Sixers. Kevin Durant goes on to say, "It ain't even close. Joel MVP, Jaylen Brown, recent Finals MVP. Tyree's Maxi, also our last three years." We all know what Braun does. Clay Thompson, never an MVP candidate and nothing. - Ooh. - Clay clap backed, you good man. Why are you using my full government? Clay Thompson does not want the Twitter or Instagram smoke with Kevin Durant. Why would you take an online battle, Katie? He will go to the depths of hell to win such a battle. - That you're not wrong on that. - He's got the time. - He has the time and the accounts. He's got the numbers. - Yeah. - I'll just never MVP in anything, it's kind of mean. - Yeah, that is really mean. - Is that true? - He had to be MVP in something. - Yeah. - Maybe high school. - Little League? - Yeah, you. - Oh, he definitely was. - He was a good baseball player too. - Yeah, that seems like a really weird shot. - Yeah, they knew through the ID emoji. So Clay Thompson really didn't like the whole full government use, felt kind of personal to him. - Would be safe if we saw these two guys or hands. - I mean, also, that's kind of a weird argument for Kevin Durant to be like, I don't see how the warriors were better at all. How about the fact that that team won 73 games? Wouldn't that be why they were better? - Mm-hmm. - Also. - And then you added Kevin Durant. - In a weird way is that him trying to hide behind him, without him saying it out loud that I kind of went to a super team, but look what the brawn did, but he knows you can't say that. - Yeah. Yeah, he was, he did it perfect. We talked about it on some days, quote, he was perfect with what he said, where he didn't really diss him, he just said, yeah, of course they're, they're championship like a boss, but man, this might have been, this might have been meant for the burner. - Oh, this was sentel? All of this? Do we get sentel? - No. - No. - Zach. - Zach, I don't think so. - No, no, no, no. Max just pulled up, NBA sentel and ball sack. - Hey, Zach. The other one. - All right, that's, so that is what he pulled up is Dream on Greens Instagram, which is fake. - Okay. - So Max needs to find the post of that. - So, yeah. - So, Titi, do it. - Wait, Tomson, put that on Instagram, sorry, 100%. - But did KD say it? - Yes. - Where? - Yes, no. - Wait, what the fuck? - Yeah, KD, I think KD did it. - Why did sentel can't be doing real stuff. - I agree. They're doing the fake, the fake stuff is the Dream on. - Ball sack. - No, I think the Dream on stuff is also real. - That's ball sack right there. - Well, you should report post it. - And complex also said that the Dream on is real. - The Dream on, yeah, was on threads. - Okay. - Why is ball sack and the sentel doing real? - That's illegal. - That's illegal. - So, Dream on said that he thought that KD was on the burger. Was it supposed to be on the burger? - I think all real. - New York Post posted about it. - It's real. - Okay. - It's real. - All right. - But yeah, ball sack and sentel can't be posting real stuff. - Money in the waters. - No, you can't do that. You absolutely cannot do that. - They're switching back and forth. - It's not good. Also, why is Clay Thompson getting upset on full government name? He called him Clay Thompson. - Yeah, that's probably just super valid planter. - Yeah, just banter. - Or maybe he just wanted to set a tone of like, hey, I didn't even know it doesn't make sense for me to feel upset about it. I'm gonna let you know I feel a type of way and we can get into whatever. - You know what? I kind of agree with Clay. Like, if you're Kevin Durant, you know I'm good enough. You just say Clay. You leave it at that. - True. - Okay, good hot seat. - My cool throw in this week is gonna be Cleveland fans. Cleveland fans may have missed out on the brawn, but they did acquire an entire new team here shortly. - Yeah. - WMBA expansion. - The rockers? - The sirens. - The sirens. - Oh shit. - Where's the multiple sirens? - Yeah, I'm thinking it's plural 'cause it's not like a fire truck. It's more like the mermaid that convinces you that you're in love and then you end up killing yourself. - God, you know those things gotta be gripping. - Yeah, true. - Could be. - If you're like, "Fuck, I'm just gonna run into this giant rock." - But it'll be in 2028, so a little bit of early entrance there, but also we should all say the whole show is on the hot seat. If we ever have Jonah Hill on the show, 'cause he could annihilate all of us, that was quite a clip. Just the most I didn't play a single sport and I just found something when I'm mid 40s and someone told me I'm good at it, energy ever. - It seemed like he just started doing it. - I also, when I saw it, I think he was joking. - I think he was joking, but then he went. Yeah, I think he's joking, but also I think he might, 'cause there is that guy who starts karate, like late in life is like, "I could fuck you up." - He's joking, but I don't think he would be joking about it like that if he didn't kind of believe it, too. - Yeah, so don't call him the fat guy from Super Badge. I would fuck him up personally. I think I'd fuck him up. - Yeah, I'd fuck up Jonah Hill. - How was he? - Shout out to, like I said, my initial takeaway was shout out to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu instructor, great job convincing Jonah Hill. He could annihilate other men. I'm sure Jonah Hill probably paid for personal lessons, probably a lot of money. And oh my god, he was the fastest black belt of all time. - Yeah, I think if you're, if you're like Jiu-Jitsu instructor, your goal is to really inflate the ego of whoever you're training with, let them beat you. Like first you kick their ass on lesson one, and then maybe lesson seven or eight. You're like, all right, you're scaring me now. Oh my god, you're so strong. And then by lesson 12, you're like, okay, I trust you to go to the slums of real on your own. Yes. And you were essentially like a walking Superman. Yeah, go on a podcast and say you can annihilate any man. Although you did clarify not anyone heavier than him or bigger than him. He's like five, seven. Okay. Oh, so that was a good clarification. I'll say right now, I got a skinny, right? I can annihilate any man that is, is not stronger than me or equal strength of me, or even have to strengthen any man who's less than half the strength of me, I can annihilate. And the point of jujitsu is like you're supposed to be unassuming, but you can, you're lethal. Yeah, that's correct, Hank. I think most bad asses in life don't go around saying they can annihilate other men. They just do it. True. Yeah, I would beat the fuck out of anybody 10 years or younger. 10 year old, 10 year old, yeah, any 10 year old in the world. I still think I think there's a 10 year old out there that would fuck us up. There's definitely like a 10 year old. That's yeah, yeah, who's got like abs and shit. He's wrestling bears in Russia. Yeah, the kid's about to be, the kid's about to be like, I'm there for Ninja warrior. I mean, yeah, he forgot about the beans. Well, if we're, if they're trying to like escape me on a jungle gym, then yeah, but I'm saying like in the dojo, 10 year old to be would have fucked you up. No, I think he would have wrestled you to the ground. He was probably like five foot one. He probably weighed 70 pounds, but it doesn't matter that wrestling is different. He would and P P he was wrestling bears though. He was wrestling bears. Yep, yep. That's a fact bears are probably taking it easy on him. Why did you search UFC airport? Um, he made a good point. What you were like, uh, people who could fight, don't say. Yeah, fuck you up. Doesn't pour a he told this guy was gonna fuck. Oh, he was also a hammered. I think he still said it. Yeah, that's true. I think he also he's a professional. I think legally you have to tell somebody. Yeah, he probably was giving him a warning. Like, hey, you take a more sad dude and it's going to be a nightmare for you. And then legally you can't get sued or arrested at that point. I would take anyone with cauliflower or overjumped a hill. Let's say that. Yeah, let's fair. Okay, let's do our Mount Rushmore brought to you by our friends at Reese's. I have the four pack right here. 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Okay, boys, Mount Rushmore of best places, or I guess you don't, best is redundant. Mount Rushmore of places to get drunk that are not a bar. Love this one. Great topic. Great topic. Deep topic. Deep topic. A lot of good picks up there. So you know, I, this is one of the ones where I'm just calling it ahead of time. The, uh, the undrafted free agents are going to put together a hell of a deal. Yeah, people we pissed. So right now it's memes, uh, max and myself 39 points, PFT 29 points, Hank and Zach 28 points. They came in second, anyone's, anyone's year, anyone's year, anyone's year, anyone's year, and Hank, you are not going to be here Friday. Are you comfortable with Zach going solo, Dolo? Extremely. So will you even text with him? Yeah, I told him, I told him to text me topic. I'll send him like options, but I will let him do whatever he wants in terms of choosing. When this team's not in person, we go virtual. And Zach, how are you feeling? Are you feeling comfortable with it or do you want like some, uh, do you want hands on advice from Hank? Hopefully I can do good or right by the team, you know? Okay, man, maybe you're just a star. Like do you want the maybe Hank is, is, is holding you down? No, we're a great team. I think we're, we had a great show in last week. I think we're going to continue to do the best we can do. Do you want to ball in your hand or do you want Hank like maybe taking the last shot? Are you going to be consulting with him up to the last second? I'm typically a past first guy. So there is some stress going into Friday. But all right, cause three years ago when Hank and Max were on a team, Hank left for a week for vacation. And Max was ripped off. I think three straight wins. That could be that you, that's three straight wins. Yeah, I mean, it was, it might have been, and then I, and then I left the week after. And I think it was three straight out. Yeah, it was, it was pretty good. All right, we got again. It was also, I think I believe that way. It appears about last year in the past. You guys are living in the past. That also might have been as they're living in the past when Max found the meatball system. Three years ago, I didn't, you were the one who started to question it. I was just answering your, the meatball system was revolutionary. We changed it. It was basically like Billy Bean in the Oakland A's. Max realized you could pick meatballs for any draft. No, it was really like draft. They meatballs no matter what, on every pit. Yeah. Okay, PFT is going first, Max, memes and I are going second. And then Hank and Zach are going third. We somehow are two months in amount rush when we still fuck up the order. Cause Hank walked in and he said, I have first, we have first pick, right? And I said, no, you have 30s of fuck. Yeah, it still doesn't get it. Okay, one, one, I'm going to go with wedding. Okay. Wait, wait, what are we saying? Wait, about memes. What are we saying? Wait, no, PFT is first pick. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we have second. Yeah. Yeah, we've said, wait, wait, wait, wait. The Hank saying they, that's a buff, that just fucked me up. So we fucked up the, the fuck we, I was talking a story about fucking up and then you almost fucked us up and you saying that made me think that we were fucking up, but we didn't fuck up. Okay, we're second. All right, wedding, first pick. I also like the easy one one. I like that you set the tone of like traditional bar because technically there are bars. Yeah, no, we're not, we're not the big show that we were just because you got a drink from a temporary bar. Yeah, it's not mean that it's a bar. Otherwise, now that would be a good Mount Rushmore to like Mount Rushmore of places to sneak booze into. Yeah. Like places that definitively do not have bars. Right. Yeah. Like, like, Zach has a water bottle at his desk that is filled with booze every day. People don't know that about. Yeah, work one. It's like Maurice Clarrette. He's got to get his goose on. Court. Court would be a good one. All right, we have our one portion click would actually be a place to get drunk. Actually, yeah, most of those. I'm drunk right now. Okay. We have our one, one tailgating tailgating, okay. There's just nothing better than like a being outside, getting the big vibes game. You wake up early, you get you get to the stadium as quickly as possible. It's a big game feel your show and you're so excited to get into the stadium for the big game and you're just got all your friends together. Just like a one foldable table there. You got that one friend who's just just killing the grill for you. Maybe breakfast burritos into steak tips. It's the best. It's the best. Just need football tailgating back. It's the best. You might need a hot guy and then you invite him into the office and then you do a competition to confirm that he's a hot guy. That kind of tailgating. You know. Normal guy stuff. Guys. Okay. That was our one one as well. It could pick. I will be. Ooh. Do you hear Zach? Oh, what do you say? He said, "How's that fall?" That's great value at two. Yeah. We liked it, too. We would have taken it one. Same. We liked it, too. I will go with, I was not going to take this one one, even though it is my one one, the golf course. Yeah. Okay. Nothing better. I mean, it got back to us. As fun as it is to golf, most of the fun is just being out there with your boys having a good time. You get to, you know, have some drinks during the round and you get to hang out, eat after or something. So turn a, turn a four hour round and then like a nine hour day, there's no better day in my opinion. I would say that I'd rather get drunk at a golf course in a bar. Yeah. I would say that like getting drunk on the course, I'd like to get buzzed on the course and then get drunk after. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good pick. Zach. Ink four, two. Ooh. Uh. You guys take as much time. I don't want. I don't hate 13. Oh, see? 13. Oh, see? 13, four, two. I'm going to go, I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Yeah. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. game. Golf. Golf. Golf tournament. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. We're green. Little league world series. Well, Max, what was your whole? How would you? Yeah. Strong point. Well, we were we had we had baseball. We just had baseball. Yeah, we just had specifically. But then that would have just turned in. Yeah. Yeah. Just because we were like the best summer. Yeah. Summer outdoors baseball game. What about fall football game? College football game is pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, football skin, what about NBA finals game? No, no, that's not it, it's a good one. - Would recommend that. - Same, same. - What do we do now? We have everything, we have our whole board. - I think we just think about those two picks. - All right, there's three picks off your board. - Big board, yeah, yeah, we have it. - Yeah, it's a big board. - It's a big board. - You've got a big fucking board, dude. - I think we say we're nine. - All right, that's what we were gonna do. - We're gonna three. - All right, we'll go backyard barbecue. - Which is great vibes, great time. - Whether it's, you know, Fourth of July Memorial Day or just getting your buddies together, getting the backyard, get the grill going, and play some bags, play some beer dye. - Beer dye, whoo, beer dye, elite. - Great vibes out there. - Great vibes. - Get someone on the ox. Maybe put on some blind, some blind. - Come on now, come on now. - Sounds terrible. I'm gonna go with, on a boat. - Good pick. - Yeah, we had it. - On a boat and then I'm gonna give it a one, two punch boat followed by concert. - Okay. - At a concert, you're a drug guy. I'm not a drug guy. - I enjoy, I enjoy some drugs. - I enjoy all the good drugs and none of the bad drugs. But at a concert, yeah, you have to have, you have to have some boost at a concert. Or at least I enjoy having some boost at a concert. I think most people out there do too. You get, you double fist it, you stand, you get the like two 32 ounce beers, and you're good to go for the entire night. - Okay, we're gonna take with our next pick, the beach. - Yep. - Good pick. - Love getting drunk at the beach. There's the beach all day drunk and then like going back inside and being like, oh fuck, I'm drunk. That was fun. And then taking a shower and like re-energizing yourself. - It's great feeling. - Again, so many great games you can play on the beach, get a little high, just jump in. - A little spike ball. - You like spike a little can jam, hey? - You like can jam? - I'll be doing that this week. - Yeah, you know it. Fuck yeah. - You gonna be on a golf course this week? - I will not be on a golf course this week. - Yeah, I was just gonna pick. - I know. - I mean, that is what it is. I'll be on a beach instead. - Tough. - Zach. - It's a good draft, boys. - Ain't feel about five. - It's a good draft. - What about, what about 13? - We took 13 already. - Oh yeah. - Yep. - You're right. - All's four and two, we're four and two just picked. - Two was just picked. I don't hate five and four, but they're kind of redundant. I'm gonna go, we'll do five Zach and then I think, I think you just-- - Oh, we're going off two different five and four is my bad. - Oh no. You guys don't even have your-- - Oh no. - Well, you got the big list or the little list, or maybe even the in-between list. - You're thinking five and four up top? - Wait, you're five and four is the opposite of his-- - Or let's go two up top. - Let's have-- - You want to go, let's go two on the bottom. - Also, you have two picks. You could just do both of those. - You do have two picks. - So quick, you would be crushing us right now for this. Every time we'd say numbers, you get mad. You guys don't even have the same numbers. - These are two numbers. You guys going three numbers, the equation-- - Oh, we've got-- - What about two and eight on the ball? - Yeah, you guys don't even have the same list. - I think they're doing this on purpose. - I don't think so. - Yeah, look at Hank. - No, he's now, he's pretending to do it on purpose. - We're gonna go-- - I number my list too, and I have these internal debates in my head. - You should talk them out, I do. - Talk them out. The weird thing about my list right now, my list right now goes seven, 10, eight, nine, three. - And zero, I have a zero, I have a number zero. - Well, we actually went into this, we were like, let's actually, let's actually number these out in order, so that we can finally-- - So hey, can I get mad, finally. - No, but then we were like, we can't, we can't do it. We gotta see where the board plays out. - It's all about, you gotta go with the flow of the draft. We are gonna go house party. - Okay, pick a pick, I have it, have it. - You thinking eight on the bottom? - I think, I think so. - Eight or nine. I don't even know what nine is. - What? - Uh oh. - It's gotta be nine then. - It's eight, I literally don't know. - No, you gotta do nine, gotta do nine. - No, gotta do nine. - No, gotta do nine. - Casino. - Gamble response. - That's actually-- - No. - Gamble response. - It's terrible. - That's like the word, the last response. - Gamble response, that's a terrible pick. - Gamble and alcohol don't mix. - Yeah. - Okay. - Gamble response. - You may just have to lose your pick for that pick. - Do we go with nine? - No, no, no, no, thank you. - Casino. - What are you not, that's a horrendous pick. - What happened with nine? Is yours blank? - The casino, that's the number one thing that Casino wants you to do. (laughing) - Yeah, I didn't say it's the correct choice. I said, the choice feels right, you know? - Oh. - I choose not to speak, if I speak I'm in big trouble. - Yeah. - All right. - I think there's not to speak as well. - If you may just have to. - If you already spoke, we may just have to redact that pick. - No, you could get drunk at a casino. You're allowed to get drunk at a casino. - He didn't say anything about Gamble. - Yeah. - He's just said that out of the casino. - Okay. - 'Cause there's nothing alcohol. - I know, yeah, yeah. - I personally, I love getting drunk at a casino and not Gamble. - Yeah. - That's one of my favorite things. - That's the smartest way to do it. - It's actually, it's like an out. - You may have to put that off. - No, shut the fuck up with that Gamble. - It's like getting drunk in an airport. It's pretty much the same thing. - It's so much fun. - Should we go with what we were saying? - Yeah. - You know what actually is really fun to get drunk at? Hank, you may have a little bit of experience with this. We're gonna go with the championship parade. - Championship parade. - Very fun. - Very good. - Great pick, yeah. - Very fun to get drunk. - Probably should've taken a past day of my life. Actually, Mizzoula was in my dream last night. - What? - Yeah, I went to his house. - Tell us about it. - Were you drunk? - Jackie Chan was there. - Okay. - All right. - Keep going. - No. - Don't hold back. - Don't hold back. I know you're gonna hold back right now, but I wanna know what Jackie Chan was doing. - I knew. - This is crazy. Actually, they were just joking each other out. - They were just taking turns joke each other out. Was Jonah Hill there? - It was in Jackie Chan. It was a guy named Chan, and then I called him Jackie Chan in the dream. And then at the room, God silent, they're like, that's not Jackie Chan. - Oh. - It's like Chan. - And then my friends from home were there. - That was Stephen Jay. - You were racist in your dream? - It was crazy. - I don't even know why I said that. (laughing) - What happened? - What all happened? - Did everyone laugh to you? - No, I kinda awkward. Some of my friends from home were there, and then they kinda, that was kinda like, then we were watching a movie, and then that was kinda like the end of the night. - You guys just hung out. You not Jackie Chan, Missoula. - My friends from home. - And as you guys need Chan. - Who was not Jackie Chan. - His wife was there. - It was a great dream. I wish it happened in real life minus the Chan part. - How's Missoula doing? - She's doing good. - Yeah. - What movie were we watching? - It was like Star Wars, but it wasn't Star Wars. - Oh, okay. - It was like a new Star Wars. - Star Wars took place in Boston, and they robbed banks instead of flying x-rays. - It was a Star Wars, but it wasn't Star Wars. It was like a new Star Wars. - I know exactly what you're talking about. - Like the plot of the movie wasn't any of the Star Wars movies that have come up. - But it looked like Star Wars. - Yeah, I think Darth Vader was in it. - Yeah. - He had a spin off. - Yeah. - Who's Millennium Falcon we taking? - Mm-hmm. - Okay. - All right, last pick, PFT. - All right, last one. - A lot of good picks. A lot of good picks still on the board right here. I'm gonna go with on a plane. - Mm. - Drinking on a plane. Fun times. - I do not enjoy drinking on a plane. - I do. - Okay. - And that's the beauty of Mount Rushmore. - Yeah. They made a song about it so good. - Yeah. - Anyone thoughts? Did you guys drink on a plane? - No. - Just sleep on a plane. - If you're on your way to a vacation and you get on a plane going there and you got nothing else to do for the rest of that day, you get on the plane. Let's just say it's 9 a.m. They bring by the champagne or the first cart person comes by and you say, yeah, you know what? I know it's 9 a.m. I'll have a beer, fuck it. That beer turns into two beers that hits you at altitudes, you get drunk faster. You have a great time. You're so excited about the vacation by the time you land. - You feel like shit. - You hit the, no. - That's why I don't wanna drink on a plane. - You hit the ground running to start your vacation. And you're having the best time ever. - Then you have to travel. - When I get off the plane and I'm drunk, I'm like, fuck, why did I do that? 'Cause I now feel a little hungover, a little jet lag and then I gotta get in an uber. I'm like shit. The best is it's on the way to the vacation and it makes the start of your trip that much better. - It's the mindset. - I like getting drunk. - There's so many better pictures. - The entire plane is at the airport. - You're not a plane guy. - That's a bar. - Yeah, I had a airport too. Airport, airport's a bar. Airport would not have counted. - No. - Airport doesn't count. - No. - Okay. - Unless you are like going to duty free. - The airport bar, yeah. - So I took airplane instead of airport. I also had at the end, at a movie. Getting drunk while you watch a movie's fun. Well, there's honorable mention. - No. - These are honorable mentions. - I don't like getting drunk. - You don't like having beers while you're watching a movie? - I don't. - I like to focus on the movie. - I like soda. - If we should have enjoyed it. - Do you think Thanksgiving would have been a better pick than casino? - Yes. - Would have been a better pick. Yeah, probably would have. I mean, there's a lot of picks that are still. - What was the thing that lake house? - Zach, what is plane? What? - He didn't need to set plane. - Oh my god. - Oh my god. - Zach spelled it PL-A-I-N. (laughing) (laughing) - I was reading, I'm like, what the fuck is that? - You're really like a coastal plane. - I didn't know what, like I read the word plane, but I didn't realize I meant PL-A-N. - I was confused. - What do you mean you don't know nine? (laughing) - Oh my god. - That's equally bad for Zach and for-- - Oh, like, no, you forget. - Oh yeah, no, that's bad for Zach. - That's bad for Zach. - For Hank reading the word plain and not understanding. - I don't think I would understand it. - I don't know. - Plain says-- - Like plain. - Yeah. - It's spelled plain. - Yeah. - Plain. - He just took plain. - I understand, but you used to plain. - No, he took plain. - No, he took plain. - No, 'cause a plain, it's a flat piece of plain. - It's a flat piece of plain. - Zach's talking about like the Midwest. - Yeah, like you're talking about a cornfield in Nebraska. - You guys never had a field party. - Listen, we had a little bit of fun here. - We had woods. - Field party rips. - Woods were on there. - Camping. - You guys were passing judgment thinking I meant flying plane. - Lake house would have been great. - Yeah. - Lake house woods. I was gonna say your boy's basement, but that's kinda like a house party. - We had basement. - Yeah, we had basement. - Root top. - Root top's good. - Root top is like very city center. - Yeah. - It's a pool. - Party bus. - We had a big mess. - We were gonna do beach and pool. - Yeah, party bus. - We had floating a river. - Yeah, that's good. - That's a good one. - Street festival, block party. Garage. Garage is good. - Getting drunk in the garage open up at the garage door. - We had your own house. - What else? (laughs) - Playing. - Memes said the streets of New Orleans. - Yeah, he said the streets. Which would've been tough. It would've been tough because where are you getting the drinks from? - Yeah. - But yes. - Yeah. - The streets of New Orleans is fun. - Men softball game. - Oh, that's a good one. - Mine. - That's a really good one. Memes also asked when we were getting prepared. He said, can we just take a whole city? - But I don't think so. - Yeah, I would have allowed that. If it was like streets of New Orleans. - Where are you getting the drinks? - If it was streets of New Orleans, there's probably some stands that you can drive through. Like the drive through Dackery place. - He also said resort. But I feel like those are-- - That's part of bars. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Plane. - Limbo. - Yeah. - Party bus. - Party bus. - You can stand on there. - Similar vibe. Limbo's were just going out of style though. - I feel like you don't see Limbo's anymore. - No, mostly part of it. - Me and Brandon tried to buy one. - Yeah. - His mayor were selling one. - I remember that. It would've been sick. - It would've been sick. - I want to be a limbo driver. Be so sick. That was a very funny turn of events right there. - Oh God, Plains. - I'm so confused. - Camping is a good one. Yeah. - I know it's like-- - Camping is great. - Yeah. Camping is a great one. Yeah, Plain. It's all right, Zach. Work. Not actually that's a distant honorable mention. Getting drunk at work. 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Being like, hey, man, can you come on the show tomorrow? And then I got no response and then like eight hours later, I said, hey, that was a really dumb text to send you right before Trade Deadline. So I apologize for that. It was chaotic. Was it not? Was it insane for you all day? I love getting inappropriate texts on Trade Deadline day because it definitely makes me think, wow, what a self-important dipshit. Like, who hasn't thought of what I might be doing right now? And the fact that of all the days of the year, Dan, it was an impressive lack of feel. It's your one. And as to say, you have always come off to me as somebody who has an exceptional amount of feel. Like, I don't know, is feel like a word in other sports because it's a big baseball word. Yeah. Where, you know, for those unfamiliar, you just got like feel of a situation. It's social awareness, essentially. And that took you eight hours to realize what a dumbass you were. That's my favorite part of the whole thing. Oh, I knew right away. No, no, I knew right away. I expected, I expected you to have the feel to be like, yeah, let's talk tomorrow. But you just go to me. So then I completely go to you. Did I lack feel there by not responding? Yeah, like a quick just like, yeah, let's talk tomorrow would have been great just so I knew that you saw it. But that's that you listen, I admit, I should have texted you on like Saturday. And then like, hey, we'd love to have you on Tuesday. But either way, it was a great trade deadline. It was crazy, crazy. You got, I feel like starting Saturday night with Terrick Scuble all the way up until the deadline. Was it 41 trades or something? It was, I believe it was 42 on deadline day alone. Okay. So starting Monday morning, I think with Luis Arize was the first one. Yeah, 42 trades. At baseballs, I don't I don't think the NFL's trade deadline day is is anything like this, like every year we say it's going to be big. And then nothing happened. No, yeah, yeah. The NBA is usually has like at least a few big moves. But but to me, like baseball has the best trade deadline by a mile. Even even if it's like a bunch of jobers who are going back and forth. Like that's the thing. People get so excited on trade deadline day about getting a middle reliever. Yes. Yeah. When do we ever get excited in life about middle relievers on trade deadline day? It's like, wow, that guy could be the difference between us going to the world series and not. And you start to, you start to convince yourself of things and it's the beauty of it. You're 100% right because outside of a couple, the starting pitching that the Cubs got, the relievers they got, like I got pumped for guys I've just never seen play baseball. I'm like, fucking dude, this guy's going to be awesome. This could be so. Ryan Zepherjohn is going to be actually, actually, you know what, that was, that was a good pickup. Yeah. I thought the Cubs had an awesome day. I do too. And, and I, it just like to me, it goes back to this. I understand the Dodgers, we're going to talk about them. I'm sure the Dodgers are in like their own category. But if you go and look at the rest of baseball right now, especially the American league, it is so winnable and it is so there to be taken. And so the fact that the Red Sox went in like, comically overpaid for Adley Rutchman, I don't care. I appreciate that. The, you know, we, we have been conditioned as sports fans. And I think especially his baseball fans, but you've seen this in the NBA too with the, the whole idea of the, the process. We've been conditioned to accept that now is not as important as the future. Yeah. And I hate that. I hate that as a sports fan. I want executives and owners to treat this year like it's the last year that's going to be played. I want them to have reckless abandon trying to go for a championship right now. Not because I have like a short attention span or because I have an inability to have delayed gratification, it's because can we just acknowledge? We don't know what the future is going to look like. We don't know when our franchise player is going to suffer a catastrophic injury or get arrested or get divorced and have a terrible year because his mind's out. We can't predict any of these things. So why wouldn't we throw all of our resources at what we've got right now and try and steal a championship because that ultimately that's what this is all for, right? Agreed. I get it. And you said it perfectly. We don't know if next year is going to exist at all in baseball, but that's maybe kind of true. Like are we going to have it? Are we going to have a sport next year? Nobody really knows what that's going to look like this time in, in 12 months. But like big picture stuff. How did that? How did the impending lockout and the, the future CBA? How did that impact, if at all, this trade deadline? certainly impacted it. I remember there's probably 48 hours ago having a conversation with a GM. And we were talking about those guys who were free agents after the 2027 season because there were, there were, I mean, Adley Rutchman chief among them as guys whose contracts expire after 2027. And he was saying, we're having a hard time pricing this because the way, you know, it's, it's funny to me like fans, fans will come up to me and say, hey, like, who are the Yankees going to get? Who are the Red Socks going to get? And it's not so simple as either of those teams wants a specific guy and is going to go full bore for him. Like in the NFL, you have 53 man rosters and you have taxi squads. In the NBA, you have 15 man rosters and D Lee guys or G league or whatever it's called right now. In baseball, you have 26 man rosters in the big leagues and 180 players in the minor leagues. So you have this whole wide universe from which trades can be made. So it doesn't come down to, we have these limited pieces here and we got to figure out how to shuffle them within the constraints of a salary cap. In baseball, the world is your oyster when it comes to a trade. So you can do everything from focus on guys who are at the big leagues right now to guys who are triple A or double A, maybe on the cusp, the 16 and 17 year olds playing in the Dominican summer league. You can trade some kinds of draft picks sometimes like they're just all kinds of opportunities to make deals. So what these teams look for almost more than individual players is value plays. Where do we get the best value? Where do we feel like we come out of this deal, which inherently because it's at the trade deadline, you're going to be overpaying. Like it's an inefficient market like that. But in the constraints of that inefficient market, how do we get the best value out of it? That's what they're looking for. And that's how the Yankees wound up with Luis Garcia Jr. Who does not fit what they need necessarily defensively. They have Paul Goldsmith and Ben Rice at first base already. And so they got Luis Garcia because they're like, we need a hitter. We'll figure out where to play him. It was the, you know, it was the same situation with the Phillies and Luis Arise. Like if everything goes how we expected to, Luis Arise is going to play second base. Bryce Harper is going to shift to right field. Alipoma is going to shift from third base to first base. And Bryce and Sot's going to shift from second base to third base. And having Tim Kirkton was like, this is a slow pitch softball team. And it like, dude, I have to say spending a day with Tim Kirkton is the reason. Everyone should do it at some point. He is the best. I was like, when he gets excited. When he's, when he's, when baseball, when the, when the stove is heating up the most, that's what he sounds like. The pills are very doble. And he's, he's just, he's giddy all day long. I love watching my TV. It's so funny. It's not. Yeah. He is great for baseball. All right. So often what you just said in terms of the, the vast resources teams have in which to trade at the trade deadline. Let's talk about Terrick Scooble. And was there anyone who is as competitive as the Dodgers or was there? We have our conspiracy theories on this show that this is partially a collusion situation where the owners want the Dodgers to get all the best players, want them to win a world series. So then all the fans say, Hey, we need a salary cap. What, what transpired? Was anyone else in, you know, did the brewers make an offer? Did the rays make the offer? Because I saw Scott Harris called the Dodgers himself on Saturday night. He's now the new reporting. The whole thing was very interesting. And there certainly was, was some consternation among the teams that did not get a bite at the Terrick Scooble Apple, if you will. And, and here, here's the truth, guys. Scott Harris could have sat down because he went around asking at the beginning for the number one player for every team. With the rays, it was like, can we get Theo Gillen? And he was told, no, Theo Gillen, who's, I think is a 20 year old outfielder out of Austin had a big break out this year, year this year, dynamic guy. He's going to be a star. And the rays just simply did not want to give up a player of that caliber for what amounts to a rental, regardless of how good Terrick Scooble is. Same thing with Bruce. Hey, Susmade is the number one prospect in all of baseball. They are not going to give that up. But here's the thing that Dodgers weren't going to give up their number one prospect just way to Paula, either. And they didn't want to give up Eduardo Cantero, another young outfielder as well. So I think what the Tigers did was go and look through the rest of the prospects. And so with the rays, for example, their number two and three prospects, Kaden Bodine and Nathan Fluelling, both catchers. The Tigers have the best catcher in the big leads in Dylan Dingler. So the match might not have been as good there. The rays could have given, you know, five or six guys, but they would have been lesser. And I think it was clear that that's got Harris wanted a smaller and more robust package. With the Brewers, they could have done that. You know, Luis Pena is a short stop. And he is really good. They don't have outfielders quite the same way, though, that the Dodgers did. And if you look at what the what the Tigers have right now, they have a long term short stop in Kevin McGonagall. They are missing a corner outfield to right now to go alongside Riley Green and Max Clark. They want another pitcher who's throwing, you know, like Jackson Job's going to be coming back up after Tommy John surgery, Troy Melton, just been a breakout guy this year and adding River Ryan, you know, I talked to someone with the Tigers and he's like, our rotation next year is going to have three guys who throw a hundred. And so that, you know, I think they looked at what the Dodgers had looked at those assets and said, for this team we have right now, this makes sense. Now all that being said, guys, I get the conspiracy theories. You guys are not the only ones. There are plenty of people within the baseball realm who were screaming, this is collusion, this is this, this is that I've always been of the and maybe this is the nerd reporter in me. I've always been of like, until I see evidence, I have a hard time believing it. And I just have a hard time, especially believing that an entire organization in the Detroit Tigers and all the other 28 non Dodgers organizations around Major League Baseball would agree to the idea of giving the most valuable thing, the only thing you play for another time to a team that's already won the last two. Like it's a fun story, it's a tidy little idea. It's just antithetical to the way that these people act and to their whole goals. Like, this is their livelihood. Do you think they're going to sacrifice what they're doing on the altar of Major League Baseball trying to get a salary cap? Maybe the answer is yes, I don't discount anything because MLB really wants a salary cap guys. And I'll tell you this, this goes a long way to pissing off fans and having pitchforks and torches in the baseball streets. Yeah. So what's interesting is the timing of it, you know, if the deal was done on Saturday, there's still, you know, a day and a half left where you can actually get on the phone, get your best and final offer from other teams. As far as the Tigers in their front office goes, I don't, I'm not sure I really buy that they would be less inclined to trade him to the Dodgers because the Dodgers had won the World Series. Especially in a different league. To me, that, that seems like that wouldn't be as much of a factor if they feel like they're getting a fair offer in exchange for them. It's like, okay, the Dodgers is going to win you the Tigers. You don't, that doesn't really affect you as much as if it was another American league team. And I do think that the motivation from an ownership group would be bigger if you know you're not going to win the World Series this year. The motivation for getting that salary cap is maybe the most enticing carrot on a stick that you could have in the entire sport. And that's billions of dollars in your pocket moving forward. So I, I am thinking about the conspiracy here, the timing again on Saturday. Why, can you explain to me because Big Cat had an idea of maybe they wanted to trade somebody else. So it didn't make sense to trade scuba. I, I thought it would had to go scuba first because then it's like basically the whole trade market is decided on scuba. And it's specific like that's all of MLB. But then specifically for the Tigers, they were also going to trade Casey Mies. So it's like, you got to do the scuba deal first and then figure out where you go with Casey Mies. That was my understanding of why maybe one reasoning for why it went Saturday night and not all the way to Monday afternoon. So, so I guess my question is, what do you think, like could they have gotten better offers? Is that, is that again, just like a tinfoil hat? Because I think it's, it makes a lot of sense. Hang on to him for at least another day and other two days. As it's heating up, you've got that offer from the Dodgers. Do you think that there would have been competing offers if not stronger offers? I don't think that's an unreasonable thing to think, guys. I also think that we have to factor in that waiting a longer time might not lead to bigger offers. Let's say that the Dodgers get tired of waiting around. And listen, this is a risk that you have to take. You need to go into the heads of other executives and try and think, okay, if I'm in their shoes, how am I going to handle this situation? But what if the Dodgers say, you know what, I'm tired of waiting, I'm going to pivot away from this and do something else? Now that probably wasn't going to happen because there's nobody like Tarek's Google on the market. they were probably going to have the Dodgers just waiting there the whole time. But you run the risk then of not getting or of having another team out of it. And then some of the other teams that have been in have made other moves already or traded away pieces that you might have wanted. And I think it's a burden hand situation. Yeah. Yeah. And Scott Harris was able to make his moves after that. All right. Who else? And can I just can I just say this guys? I want to put a bow on this. What the Tigers did might not have been right. What the Tigers did might not have been optimal. I also think that it's within reason enough to think that there was strategic elements involved in it. It might not have been the correct strategy. But I think it's a fair and reasonable one. Yeah. Okay. Who else won trade deadline for you? I thought the Padres, you know, talking about Casey Myes who Casey Myes is a really, really good starter. And the Padres are like that's a team that has always kind of lived in that weird, you know, they're in the wild card. They're in the same division as the Dodgers. Yeah. They basically said, hey, you know what, we're going to try to go for it. We're going to try to not be scared of the Dodgers. The Padres aren't scared of the Dodgers. They've they've never been scared of the Dodgers. They've beaten the Dodgers in the playoffs. Remember like that it was them in the diamond backs. They have, you know, they have slain the beast there and shown that even though the Dodgers are the overwhelming favorite right now, baseball's a funny sport. And especially in short series, you can see things not go the way of the most talented team. Sometimes the other team just gets on a heater. Sometimes you just play an utter horseshit series like that happens sometimes. But it was interesting because Casey Myes's markets sort of collapsed there. In his last start, he had come off the injured list with a growing issue. His velocity was down. A number of teams thought he was hurt and were going to see his start. Then he got scratched from that start. And they're like, all right, you know what, we're we're just not going to pay for somebody who might be broken. AJ Preller, he's like, I don't care. I mean, he's a swashbuckler at the deadline and he'll go and do the things that other organizations are just not willing to do. And adding Casey Myes, adding Robbie Ray, whoever his last 10 starts has been one of the best pictures in baseball. And doing that to a team that's finally hitting guys. It has taken more than half the season, but Fernando Tati's junior hitting many Machado hitting Jackson Merrill. They picked up Luis Renjito. He's been one of the best hitters in baseball since the All Star break. Ty France has been awesome this year. The Padres suddenly look really dangerous, but they have looked awful at points this season. And it's a very health or shelter team. And if they make the playoffs, yeah, they could be a problem. I'm just not sure that they're going to make the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What I mean, sometimes the biggest trades are also the ones that don't get made out there. How about that bit of analysis? The the the braves trying to make them just not of wisdom. Exactly. DeGrom giving a big fuck you to the braves. I love that. We got some meds fans here in the office. And they love that. I just love the idea that you know, like it probably wasn't just because he hates the braves because he played in New York. Probably some other factors isn't maybe that you know about, but it's fun to pretend that he was just kind of once a met always a met. I mean, if you'd like to actually know that no, I mean, I think he probably likes Atlanta better than New York. And that's one of the cities that he would have gone to typically. Yeah. But it was a family thing. He's got his family down in Texas. They're settled there. They're comfortable there. And beyond that, when Jacob DeGrom got no trade protection in his contract, the idea is not just to be able to say yes or no, but to use it as an economic cudgel. And he's got a $37 million mutual option at the end of his contract. And he very easily could have said either you turn that $37 million mutual option into a player option that is now in my hands or I'm not going to take this deal. So the financial parts of no trade protection come in and sometimes make the decision for him. Yeah. And then with Paul schemes, was there ever anything that was close to happening with Paul schemes? In terms of him, like in terms of having lunch or in terms of any trade, we were with a pirate staking. Okay. No, no, they're not, I mean, they're not even, they're not even getting offers on that. Yeah. Like the pirates, the pirates went out and got a bunch of relief pitching yesterday. And it's interesting, guys, because I think people probably don't realize the Pittsburgh pirates have the third best offense in baseball this season. And they've been doing it lately without a kneel cruise and without counter-grip in two. So two of their best offensive players. Pirates starting rotation. Highest fastball velocity in Major League Baseball, 97.6 miles per hour. They got a bunch of dudes who can chuck it. What they were missing was a bullpen. And while they didn't get big names, you know, they did get Luke Weaver, who was the best reliever out on the market, getting Lake Bocher, Kirby Yates as well, like not big names, but it's the sort of thing, guys, that I think will go a long way to showing what the Pittsburgh pirates can be. And inside of that clubhouse, they were, you know, Paulskins among them. They were really hoping to get relief pitching. And that's exactly what the front office did. Yeah. There's still in the wildcard. Three and a half games out. All right. I know you got to run in a second. I got a couple other quick hitters. What do you do if you're an Orioles fan today? Because that was a probably demoralizing, you know, trade to see the Orioles had a young core a few years ago. It was this hype. This everything's going in the right direction. They get swept in the playoffs. They never really got back to that level of baseball. And now it feels like another reset button if you're an Orioles fan. Yeah. I think that's fair. I think this is more reset than rebuild though. And those are two, like the Orioles, like were the worst of the worst when it came to tanking. It's like them and the Astros. And after 2023, they win a hundred one games. It's like, oh my god, what is this team going to be? And again, this goes back, guys, to what we were talking about earlier. The Orioles thought that they were going to be a championship caliber contender for the next half decade. And it just has not worked for we could go over a multitude of reasons. It just hasn't worked. And so Adley Retrimon was like the face of that. And to ship him away, it's painful. Getting back Anthony Ionson and Tyson Witherspoon and Andy Azacar and Carlos Narvaya's like they crushed that deal. The Red Sox understood they were overpaying significantly. There was attacks for being in division. There was attacks for keeping them away from the Yankees. But they got their guy. And they got a franchise caliber catcher for the next year and a half when they believe they can win the American League. And based on the way they've been playing lately, they look like they've got a real shot at it. Yeah, I've got one other question for you here. This is actually maybe a little bit outside of your normal expertise area. But I'd like for you to break down this trade if you could. This broke last week. I'm kind of slipped under the radar before the baseball trades happened. There was a gorilla trade where the Brookfield Zoo in Chicago sent two Western lowland gorillas. It was a 20 year old and a 12 year old. Both female Cambodian Nora. They went to Columbus in exchange for a 12 year old and an eight year old. So again, it's a 20 and a 12 year old for a 12 year old and an eight year old coming back to Chicago. So Chicago gets younger. Columbus, do you feel like this is an all in move for them? What's your breakdown of the gorilla trade? You need veterans in the gorilla world. I mean, it's hard out there in the trees. And when listen, when you have somebody who's a force, somebody who's been there before, somebody who can take you through getting your ass kicked one day, get punched in the face and then someone coming up to you and just beating their chest and telling you you suck, you need someone there to pat the 12 year old on the head and say, it's okay. You can go grab them by the balls the next time and throw them to the ground and you have my permission. If it's a 12 year old and an eight year old, you know, they haven't been there before. They don't understand the way that if you twist the nuts, then the gorilla goes down and won't fuck with you again. That's facts. We're going to have we're actually going to have the president of the Brookfield Zoo on on Thursday to break it all down. We're preeminent zoo trade podcast. All right. Last question, rowback question, rho back.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. I know you got to run. Tell me what is the date that Major League Baseball starts their season next year and we're not going to hold you to this. Oh, God, I hate this question. Yeah, I know because it's because it's because it's changed. For a long time, I was on the no games mist train and I desperately want to stay there right now. So I'm going to continue to say yeah, I think the schedule starts March 25th of 26th next year. I'm going to continue to say that, but I am much closer to pushing that day back to June 1st. I was going to say June 1st my day. Yeah, June 1st. I think we're going to have a season. It's just going to be a short season. Jeff, sorry again, for texting you on tree deadline day, although again, I think you should have just like thumbed it up. I know you made me you actually you actually made me think should I have should I have responded to him. And the answer you selfish douche is still now. Okay. Well, I did clarify. I was like, I know there's a crazy time to text you. Uh, but yes, you're the best. And uh, next time, not trade deadline before the playoffs will have you on for a longer time. And we always appreciate your time, man. Always always a pleasure. Thanks for having me. Jeff Passen was brought to you by Mountain Dew summers here. And it's time to rip into some ice cold Mountain Dew. I can't wait to get back outside up camp with the boys drinking some Mountain Dew. It's the absolute best. It's delicious. It's cold. Nothing goes better with the outdoors and hanging with your friends than the refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew. It's proudly born in the foothills of Tennessee. Enjoy the refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew in American original. Grab a do tasting great since 48. Okay. Let's finish up. We got FAQ's Henry. I think you should we talk FAQ since, you know, the book is basically a giant FAQ and we've been. It's what have we been doing all week? John Hancock's signing a lot of books that are on sale. Anderson go by now. Uh, I did like you. Hank had uh, Mr. Portnoy or he had Max Rita random chapters, Mr. Portnoy's chapter. Yeah. And I did read this like a few months ago when I was reading through the book and it was very funny. The line of Mr. Portnoy being like, I had a podcast. They had a podcast. I didn't understand why they were getting such big guests and I wasn't. He also like took. I feel like I I heard it is like almost a shot at his son. He was like, Dan took a big risk. Like not a lot of people knew, knew the company when they moved to New York. It's like. That's your son's empire. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But Mr. Portnoy's in the book. We have a bunch of different chapters. But yeah, we've been signing books. Anderson books. You can still buy some signed copies. Uh, we are two weeks out, two weeks out from the book launching. And uh, we appreciate everyone who's bought. And if you're thinking about buying, you can also wait and buy at the week of it. That would be a big help. I gotta say as good as the chapters are that are written by people, not us, like guests on the show. Uh, you've got the SVP chapter. You've got just a lot of people that like Joe Buck was was able to contribute to the book to a lot of people helped us out. But I think the best chapters are the, uh, Zach chapters. Zach chapters. And also, I, the, I, the, just, history of ice cream are just like what ice cream means to Zach is absolutely incredible. And, uh, memes is chapter on how to rebuild the Jets. Pretty good too. And my chapters are wrong. Don't, don't forget. Don't forget Max and Florio doing the Mount Rushmore of Italian. I have a terrible panic pick at that. I'm expressing about for months. Oh, because he took, he, Fauci? No. Down him. It's so funny. Well, there's, it's, yeah, it's Italian Americans and sports. Oh, I guess he had something to do with sports. Shut it down. Who could it be? Shedon. Who could it be, rags? I know. Yeah, it was a panic. I'm like, I'm mad at myself for it. Hello, soon to be best selling authors. My brother and I argued about this consistently. Content-wise, what is better for the show? A winning Hank or a losing Max? Also, how often do arguments happen to Albrecht for recording that would make great content? Thank you for all you do. Team Hank. Yeah, it really depends on the level of heartbreak. I don't know. Shut up, Hank. If it's bad, it's bad loss. Then yes, 100% losing Max. Max at his worst is just absolute gasoline for the show. But think about a couple of years ago. No, shut up. No. Are you talking about for you personally? Yeah, he's so like, no, no, no, you're talking about you personally. No, the show is popping off. The other part of that question. Yes, we have a big problem as a show where we, we just chill too much beforehand. We, what it was about a year ago, we added chairs outside the studio and it just become our chill zone. It's a problem. We just added another section of chill because the way our show goes is like, all right, we meet it. We meet it this time. Then we do a little bit of, now we do a little bit of chilling outside of the studio. We say we're going to record it, like say we're going to record it one. We meet it one. Chill. Then we come into the studio and then we do a little bit more chilling because there needs to be a little bit of a buffer zone when we're also in the studio before we start recording. Yeah. It's normally about 45 minutes that we start after we say we're going to start. It's also just, I guess it's probably a testament to why we've been able to do 10 years because we all are actually friends with each other and like being around each other, unlike, you know, some other shows where they just like don't, you know, the famous Mike and the mad dog didn't talk until they sat down on Sunday night. I at like 10 45, we finished recording and I texted my wife. I was like, are you asleep? She's like, no, but I'm about to be. I was like, okay, cool. I'm just going to chill with the boys for a little bit and we just chilled for like 30 minutes after recording. So yeah, there's a lot of chill in that goes on. But that also is when the magic happens. We get it going, you know, you get the juices flowing. Sometimes the guys don't listen to save it for the show though. Yeah. They just, they just, they try to blow right past you. We get it in sort of like you're a part of that. Hank, shut the fuck up for a second. You know that the save it for the show. The warnings go unheated more often than they go respected. They're more just to call yourself included. They're, I know. I know. You said some guys are the guys. You are the guys. I am the guys, but we do need. I'm saying if there was one thing we can improve on, it's respecting the save. When somebody calls you tried to show me the Joe Biden video. I'm happy. I was like, I'm going to wait and I'm very happy. I did. I just knew that you love the guy. It's really good save it for the show. Yeah. You're like, I want to show you this. I was like, should I? He's like, it's really funny. I was like, should I just wait them? I knew that you love the guy. I'm sorry for wanting to put a smile on my boy's face. The best is though when there's actually a big like save it for the show, save it for the show. And one person just really wants to talk about it. And then the other people are actually starting yelling save it for the show. It's normally I will want to talk about something in big cat will yell at me screaming for the show. You gotta save it from the show. We save a lot for the show. Assuming views and listens were the same regardless. If you had to chew, only choose one type of guest to have on. Would you prefer it be a coach/player or a media member? It just depends on how we get along to that person. What do you got to pick one? You got to pick one. Oh man. This is actually a really hard question. Fuck. I think I think me I'm just like I'm putting it in the camps. I think media member, right? Like if you if you had to break it down, it's like all right, you don't get any more interviews with like Harbaugh or like all the big 10 coaches on one side or you don't get interviews with like Racillo or Winhorse or like Racillo is a co-worker. He's not really. All right, but this is like I'm just trying to think. I think it's coach/player. You would get rid of them or no? I would I would interview them. Can you interview them? Yeah, it's a tough one. I like the fact that we get to do both. It's a really tough question. Because I think some of our our best episodes are with people that are closest with us. Yeah. Which isn't always coach, but now it's the rare combination of like a coach player that is close with us like a co-worker. Then that's that's the real answer. But I think I'd probably go overall. I'd probably go media member. Blake Griffin, a media member? Yep. That's what I like there's there's a great is now. Yeah, so he would be now, right? So like you would still get former coach player. Yeah, I don't know, but now you wouldn't have coach players. You just have future guests. Part of my take. Now I'm thinking about like when they retire, when they retire, then they yeah, then we're like, okay, now we can interview you. But what if they're not in the media? They will. The coach player interviews are funny or specifically players. Meeting members are like we put it to them a little. Yeah. Showing coaches like Ryan Dees nipple ring is funny. I agree. But like Charles Barkley is media not player. Yeah. Man, that's tough. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Roodle. He's definitely he's totally wrong now. But yeah, what if Tony Ramos starts working for Marshallsport? Like when you when you hear Charles, when you hear Charles Barkley, you hear you think playing. Yeah. All right, tough, great question. That's a great fucking question. You final answers. I say media. I'll keep coach player. Do you want to do a show together? Yeah, yeah. Question on booking guests. Do you guys ever feel uncomfortable approaching guests? You love and asking them to come on the show. Is there too much example being Caleb or Jayden? Like is there a clear relationship there? But is there a point of asking? And it's like, okay, this is too much. In similar vein, when we're getting PCA on the show, big how would you pee? Yes, it's got I actually talked to someone from the Cubs. Yes, it's going to happen. No, I don't I think I've gotten pretty good at it. Even the Jeff pass and I actually look back, I think I did a good job. I'm going to read you my my text Jeff pass because I think he was coming at me, which I love. He's got spice. That's what Jeff, like that's why it's good guess because he kind of, he has a little shit to him. I said to him 830 in the morning, happy deadline day. I know today is nuts. We'd love to have you on PMT tomorrow for 20 minutes. If you have a window, we can make whatever work for your schedule. I feel like just a reply being like, yeah, let's talk tomorrow. Would have been fine. That's not that bad. I don't think it's bad at all. I think if anything, your follow up to it encouraged him to go hard. Yeah, when you fall up, you know, like, hey, I just realized I'm a jerk. You could have followed up and just been like, that might not have been the best timing. Let me know when it works. Yeah. That's what my follow up was. I said, sorry, this one was probably a dumb time to text. Let me know if you have a window tomorrow. That was like after the trade deadline. Yeah. And then he called me and he was like, you know, it was a dumb time, but I was like, yeah, he made it that. Also Jeff, like, and he deserves this. We love Jeff. He's great as job. This is the day. This week is really when he's feeling like top of his game. Yeah, so like he's got a little extra spice. But I didn't. He's feeling - He had a good day. - I had a good day, so he was, yeah. Going after, if you're going after a big cat, that's a heat check, which is best. - Yeah, but I read it back because I was like, "Wait, did I fuck that up?" 'Cause I think it would've been a fuck up if I texted him, I was like, "Hey, could we have you on at 11 a.m. tomorrow?" Like something like that. I basically was like, "We have a wide open day. Just let me know if tomorrow at some point works." All you had to say is, "Yeah, that's cool, I'll hit you later." But yeah, that's a lot of my texts are like that. Like, "Hey, would you be down to come on?" And I have another relationship with a bunch of people that doesn't feel weird. - And my favorite, one of my favorite things about big cat for our entire relationship is his lack of social anxiety, especially in situations where there's like athletes and celebrities, where he will just go up to everyone. - Yeah, oh yeah. - Like, there is no, you know, you get a little bit nervous to go, "Look, it's that person." They're like, "I don't want it to go up." And like, bum rush 'em, like, big cat, big cat going up and he's talking to 'em and he's gonna be, he's gonna have-- - I want it to be off, like. - Yeah. - Did you ask Larry David to come and show her no? - Uh, no. - That's probably the one person you might not have. - Yeah, because I still might have. - I pulled back a handshake from Larry David because I was, I realized he's a germaphob. And I said, "Hey, congrats on the next." And he like mumbled and walked away. But yeah, I'll go up to anyone and just be like, "Hey, well, come on the show." - Yeah. - I mean, at this point, it's also easier. People know who we are. - Yeah. - No, but even that early on, like it did not matter. - That's it, always, we said it. So one of the worst sentences you can say in the English languages, do you want to come on my podcast? It's just, you cannot say that without feeling like a loser. Thankfully, something is wildly wrong with my brain that I can not feel like a loser even though I am a loser. - When somebody tells me, yeah, yeah, we'll talk about it. That is, that's the worst feeling that you have. You ask somebody like, "Hey, we come on the podcast." Yeah, yeah, let's talk about it. We can make some happen. - Oh, I just-- - And then they don't actually like settle in the date. - Oh, I put the screws to people. I just say, can you come on tomorrow like this time? 'Cause then they can't, then you gotta say yes or no. - With Jaden, I'm intentionally, I don't want Jaden to spend a single second thinking about me. So I have intentionally let the guy just play football. It was great meeting him, but in terms of chasing him down to try to get him on the pod. Hopefully one day he'll come back on. But I think that the less Jaden Daniels thinks about my stupid face, probably the better for his NFL career. What's up guys, love the show, especially Hank. A question for PFT. What goes through your mind when you get dressed in the morning? For example, how do you choose to wear a football jersey on a random summer Tuesday afternoon? - Okay, so this is, I guess a question from Hank Lockwood. - No, this sounds like a real piece of shit. Hank, so right now I'm wearing a jersey of my favorite team. I root for The Washington Commanders. - No, I'm wearing Washington Commanders jersey. - I think this person just genuinely like, you get out of bed and then you're like, Jersey day. - With the Washington Commanders hat. - But like that, I know that's why, it's pretty crazy. We do some, it's August 4th. - We do some zany bits here at barstool. - What's your reason? - I'm genuinely curious. The process, like you wake up, you get out of bed. I gotta get dressed for work today. Jersey. - I got a new Mikey Sanders still Jersey when they redesigned the entire commander's jerseys. And so I decided that I would wear my Mikey Sanders still Jersey today. Football's back this week. - I'm just like, I'm like Inspector Gadget. - It's kind of football season. - Day that has a wide black t-shirt. - So I feel like wearing a football jersey at barstool sports of your favorite team. - God loves ball. - And the hat that goes along with the team is pretty standard. - God loves ball. - No, you're right, it's crazy. That's why. - No one said it was crazy. I was genuinely curious, or this person was genuinely curious of just like the process. - Well yesterday I wore all bullets here. So there was that. - I know, I'm saying it. - I haven't been matching. I've been matching. - But like when you're like, like two days a row, do you go to sleep with an idea where you're gonna wear? - He puts it out like the first day you just wake up in your life. - I have never, I'm gonna wear all bullets. I'm gonna wear it. - I'm gonna wear it. Jersey, I'm gonna wear it. - I have never once in my life thought about what I'm going to wear the next day before I go to bed. - And I love trucks. - Every day is a surprise. It's a wonderful adventure. - Even if you got like an early flight or something. - Okay, no, that is true. - Yeah. - So the first time that we did wake up barstool, first day, I was like, ah shit, I gotta wake up at 5.45 tomorrow morning, might as well figure out what I'm gonna wear on TV. And that was just basically being like, oh yeah, I gotta wear pants. So I put pants out one day and a t-shirt. It was a very underwhelming outfit, but yeah. No, I mean, it's no secret. I don't really spend that much time playing it out. This one, I just think you picked the wrong gate to ask that question. Nothing wrong with wearing a jersey. - It's a little random. But I wasn't, I'm not chirping. I think you look good, like you match well. You look stylish. I just genuinely, like, was, to know if it was jersey for a reason or if it was just like, fuck it, Tuesday, August 4th, football jersey. - I don't think there's anything wrong with that. - I'm not coming at you at all. I'm genuinely, was-- - Walked through your double t-shirt look yet. Was one t-shirt not enough for you? - It's actually one t-shirt. - It is. - It's a fake t-shirt. - That's the one that Jack McCarthy wore. They both wore it to Max's wedding. - Yeah. - He wore it yesterday. So I knew that he was, yeah, 'cause I wouldn't have, I'm scared, we know we have a few matching shirts. So it's like, I wouldn't wear it just in the off chance. We'd do it again, like that can't happen. So once I saw him wearing it yesterday, when I was getting changed, I was also just like, going through, and I was like, oh, green light. - It's a good shirt. - Thank you. - Does it come in your size? - It's just too small or too big. - Oh, right, yeah. It's a little too small. It's a little tight around the collar. - That's all right. - PFT, I decided just to go a little different today. - It might just put on weight. - I'm not coming at you. - Yeah, I'm putting on weight. - I decided to go a little different today. PFT, I'm wearing a black t-shirt. - That's good, it's a good outfit. - Is that what you wearing today? - On body today, I just had to go with a black t-shirt. It makes getting dressed very easy. - So efficient. - I do, I don't know if you guys noticed, but I do one day where I get a little freaky, and I just wear like a golf shirt. - A great, that's my fucking nuts. A great, like Zach, everyone's Mr. and I's guy, Mr., you know, he's been coming at max. And rightfully so, no LeBron gear, and today's wearing Jordans. - Oh, you're going? - Yeah. - I did say I will give Jordan the nod to sneakers. - But like a LeBron guy would never say that. - Yeah, you're not fully LeBron. - No, you're not. - If you guys want to worry about a parallel, worry about on the court. You have to, what do you wear on the court? - If you want to worry about what he's wearing on the court, I'll worry about how he plays on the court. - Oh, so you changed it just there, 'cause I just asked you, what does he wear on the court? - You do actually have to worry, if you're gonna play, if you're LeBron James, you're gonna play basketball this year. He does have to get dressed. And he has to put on shoes. - Okay, you can worry about that. I'll worry about the game. - Well, no, you should be worried about that, I'll worry about that. - No, no, no. - If the wizard's got LeBron, PFT would be, have worn a LeBron shirt. - Every single day. - I would have gotten, since they got. - I would have gotten LeBron's face tattooed on my face. - PFT is an anomaly. - Hold on, but can you understand that you should be at least a little worried, like what if LeBron just doesn't get dressed one day? - All right, what, Max, do you own a LeBron James jersey? - They're sold out. - Oh, is your name on a wait list? - Yeah, they're sold out. - Are you getting it on the wait list? - You're on the wait list? - You're on the wait firm. Or did you just not? - I don't wear jerseys. - I don't wear, you didn't order. - You're the only grown man who wears jerseys. - That's an absolutely insane take. - Hank also just said the same thing. You wake up on a Tuesday morning and you pick out your favorite Mike Sandin Hill jersey. - That wasn't him. - That wasn't him. - Who's got the courage? - I have one, Mike, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. - We're going to the grown man, you can't wear jerseys. - Well, if you're going to come out me, if you're going to come out me. - I don't have a problem here at all. I'm not coming at you whatsoever. - When you wear it on a football Sunday, make sense. The random Tuesday in August is just like, I'm curious. - I did not realize that this was going to be a controversy. - It's not, of all the things I've learned to work. I didn't think that this one was stable. - By the way, Mike Sandin's drill is 25 years old, so he's not half as young. - Only 17 years younger. - Yeah. - Well, 16 idiots, he's hit it right. - He's also about to drive a car. - He's about to be 26. - Max, do you own any jerseys at all? - That was mean, Max. - Yeah, I do. - Yeah. - You own a lot of jerseys, Max. - I think I own. - Max, you did walk around with shoulder pads on like a month ago. - That's my own jersey. That's a mean ball shirt. - Yeah, that was mean ball Friday night. - This was not the day I expected to have the, should grown men wear jerseys. - I think you should. - I think there's no problem. - You asked the question. That wasn't even FAQ. - Yeah. - You just went out of the blue. - And then Hank's like, I don't know why you're coming at me for it. - I wasn't coming at him. Genuinely, like. - I wouldn't have said if things didn't come at me. - There's a brilliant mind. It's a fascinating guy. - I wanted to get inside his head and learn about his process. And we got to it. - My process this morning was literally, I just got this jersey because they put out all new jerseys - That makes sense. - So it was between, honestly, can I tell you what happened this morning? - Yes. - Okay. - Please, that's why I asked the question. - All right, I had two choices. - You want your got stolen? - No, because they learned their lesson last time when they took a peek inside and they're like, that was a waste of time. I had two choices this morning. One was the Mikey Sandress still. The other was the one that I tried to wear, which was Luke McCaffrey. And I wore that in the-- - So Luke to service. - It was not the salute to service. It was a brand new burgundy Luke McCaffrey. And then Blake threw up on it this morning to lay out. And then I was like, well, I bet I was already in the mindset of wearing a jersey, which Hank is right. Like, it's a weird time to wear a jersey. But because I was excited about the Luke McCaffrey, Jersey, I was in a Jersey mindset, Blake throws up on it. I was like, okay, I'll just go to the backup Jersey that I have because I'm not going to, I'm not making that. Once you put on the Jersey, you don't take it off and you put a polo shirt on. No, you're already like, you've set your intention for that day. You're going to go to work and probably be like a little shady in the way you operate that day as a grown man wearing a football uniform in August. So I said, I am going to then elegantly switch to the Mikey. And I think I pulled it off pretty good. Thank you, Hank. Getting new clothes is exciting and you want to wear them. If that was just a Jersey you've had, that would have been weird. I would have like a new Jersey. It's like, yeah, this is fresh. I want to, I want to, I want to wear it. If you agree though, if this, if that was just like a Jersey you've had and you were like, fuck it. Jersey Tuesday. Hank, that's why I didn't put on the, the Luke McCaffrey Salute to Service Arctic Camo Jersey. Yeah, because that's an old Jersey. I had the new one I wanted to put on and then I had the new Mikey. So I'm glad we talked this through. Yeah, me too. And I'm glad that it didn't evolve into you leveling accusations that grown men should not wear uniform. That was Max. That was both those are my ages. Yeah, I did that ugly shit. Very ugly. Really ugly. All right. Good show boys. Uh, number zero. 23. That means 11. It's 7. 31. 3. 35. 69. So there's zero and there's 100 92. So that means. So that means I'm going to run down those in there. Cats game. Oh, 3. 93. Anyone? No? Oh, Jumsey went 92. So close. Let's see one more. 35. Colden. What do you have 69? He's nine. Why is it a Jersey stitch? I don't really come at it. Is it is a brand new top of the line, names by some books. 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