Este episodio del podcast se centra en analizar varios casos de presuntos fenómenos aeroespaciales investigados y resueltos por la Comisión de Estudio de Fenómenos Aeroespaciales (CEFA) de Argentina. La CEFA es un organismo público que estudia estos eventos para identificar sus causas. Se explican casos específicos, como un objeto con forma de corchea que resultaron ser huevos de araña transportados por el viento, una forma fusiforme que era probablemente un ave, un objeto romboidal estático que se concluyó era un barrilete (cometa), un punto luminoso que era un reflejo de lente (lens flare) y una luz circular en movimiento que se atribuyó al reflejo de un proyector en las nubes. En cada caso, se detalla el análisis, que incluye el uso de software especializado como "Paco", y se menciona cómo la comisión clasifica sus conclusiones en Tipo A (explicación definitiva) o Tipo B (hipótesis plausible), aplicando un enfoque escéptico y metodológico basado en evidencia tangible y el principio de parsimonia para buscar las explicaciones más simples y probables.
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Obviously it was because people were out there. I know there were people who were very fond of the Minisodios, but in general, the trend was the less listened chapters. It was like "I'm telling my love". I know there are a lot of people, well this will be the title. It was a fan of the C.A. It was something we did annually, our celebration. But. I think if there are people who don't like the Minisodios, specifically the C.A. to this podcast, they'll like it. Yes. Well, I think it's not too much more preamble because the Minisodios are trying to start from one, but we had to see. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Good morning, late nights, I'm sure you're listening to me. Today in this Minisod we're going to talk about the C.A. For those people who are listening for the first time in a certain episode, or in these Minisodios, we're going to talk about the C.A. The Center for Aerospace Identification is an independent entity of the Argentineian Force and its Territories, to organize, coordinate and execute the investigation and analysis of events, activities or present elements or originated in the space of interest, to identify their causes and inform conclusions to the relevant organs they require. Any particular person can see his consults when they complete the corresponding form. What are the lines? They are the lines, exactly. The C.A. resolutions fall in two categories, like "A", definitely explained, when they found absolutely irrefutable evidence and type "B", if they explained the confrontation, which is when they identify key elements that, for their quality and quantity, they support a hypothesis. The types "B" say the same way, they don't constitute any conditions, they only include within that category, those that exhibit real elements that, in a plausible explanation, are verifying themselves in all of them the principle of coincidences with the present cause. As part of their public activity, the C.A. publishes, new information about the resolution of the cases received during that year and since the 2020, in the sixth page, we've been hearing the most interesting cases. There are some that, they don't repeat themselves because, how many times can you talk about a "mocha" that happens in front of a camera? Every year, there are a lot of cases in fact most of them are. But, well, as always, we recommend you to have a hand or a good Instagram, @SyxtapataPodcast or @Syxtapata because it's a chapter that will be very visual because we are referring to photos that are in the form. A saying, as well. Apart from clarifying that when the case is sent, generally it's a photo, I think it's a video that has been a very related to a photo-adjusted accompaniment. It's the same. Well, I'm not going to do it today. I'm going to see. Every person. I'm not going to confuse because I had some messages that I think was in white. And it was said that the "Obni Commission" I don't know what it is. That's the "sephora". What is it? The "Obni Commission" I don't know what it is. "Obni" or something. No, "Obni" is what it was before because there were two. I had searched this and I lost it. Because there is a commission that is like a private people's commission. Yes, no. The "Obni" is the commission of the "Obni" study of the Argentine Republic. Those are the "suphologos". They are not. They are described, of course. Of course, like the described ones. What is the "sciad"? No, no. The "Obni" study is the "suphologos" that is the people for people who, in particular, study and study things. The "sciad" are like the described ones. Of course, exactly what you said. And it is a public organism. In fact, that's why we are reading the "customer" of the "customer" of cases. Because it is a public information. The first case we are going to talk about is the "pablo mulberger" case. sent from Marseilles, but it is a success that happened on June 12, 2017. Why do they send it so much? I don't know. There are cases, I think there is a case that is more old. What happens is that they are the "resolution" of cases 2022, that is, the cases that are resolved in 2022. I think there is an even particular case, like someone was watching a photo and he sends it to the case. Like, "oh, look, I found this." So there are cases of all the times. The witness was filming the moon and during the recording he began to see objects crossing front to the "customer" of the left right. The object, whose morphology, this tells you, it is seen as a "corchea" note. It has a "corchea" note. It moves in a straight line to the constant speed and it will send you the first of the photos. This is what I told you. I leave it to you so that people can hear it. I am remembering it now. The "PDIF" will be better remembered in the publication that is in the "customer" with the chapter. Ah, but it was recording. It was recording. It was recording. Of course, I saw the "corchea" notes. It was very. The "possil". I saw the "corchea". I saw the "corchea". In the video that I saw the witness tells us the information, I can check the transit front to the "customer" of several objects. All of them crossing the "corchea" with the "corchea" in the right hand side. The hypothesis that the investigators have to have a phenomenon even if it is strange for people very well known for the "customers" reproductive of the spiders. Some species suggest that they make their own way of "having" and these eggs are transported to great distances. Thanks to a "pendice superior" that it behaves as if it were a barco ball. I'm a little lost, anyway. Now I'll tell you. I'll tell you. The photo of the comparison. You know that in the "superior" and left, this white thing that looks like a new one is a egg with the line of the spider. The results are in the resolution as a type B conclusion. And they say that they can't obtain the exact direction of the object because, for that date, the meteorological information only indicates a bridge with variables. The concrete fact that all objects crossed the field of right and left, added to the number of common elements found in them, allows you to conclude according to the principle of the "Ocam" or "Solar" or "Solar" that the objects that crossed the field between the photographs were intended to film the moon. They are compatible with the big and transported by the wind, even carrying the waves on their lower part. So what they say is that this is not the moon, but it was happening in the atmosphere and that the moon and this person. The "Ocam" ship, which is the favorite tool, in all cases, a meteorological action, a phrase, which is, according to which, in the same condition, the simplest explanation is to be the most probable. People very pragmatic. The "Sia" The second case that we are going to talk about, in this episode, Guillermo Martzen, sent from the "Falta" to Córdoba, and turned around in January 2010. Okay. In the "Minocious Inspection" of the "Imaging Ampliada" a white object is distinguished from the "Fusiforme" morphology. What would it be? It is like a new wave. Okay. With the "Fusil" shape. With the same extremes, from the center, it is projected slightly below a voltage or a point of a horizontal surface pointing to the observer, obviously, I have to take a picture because that can be many words, if an image is worth more than mine. Okay. The test, clearly in the formular of data, has discarded, that it is treated by a wave, since the object does not have the "Niplegadas" or extended, nor the "Nicola" however, it could be a wave. Yes, from the "Sia" it was designed that it could be treated by a "lateral" with its wings in the horizontal phase of the "lateral" the photo was taken with a velocity of about 50/500 seconds, how does that say? 1 in 500. Ehhh. The "Opturator" 500, not 500. Ok. But "Sia" 500. What allows you to go out with your wings with "Geladas" let's say, its horizontal position or even you go to the body and add examples of the "Lateral" in the "Lateral" it's very funny and very. I've never been surprised that there are people that we pay to get together to solve these cases. I love it. It's wonderful. I am very happy. But the "Opturators" do not know what they are there. Using the "Software" in French, called "Paco" they analyze the image using. they analyze this section, and use the "Remoción de Borrocidad" or "Deblurring" and now they have the results if you have to go to the "Continuation" The "Software" and "Paco" while the "Fotos" comment is a software specifically developed by these French people to analyze images of "Obnis" or "Govnis" No, it can be bought. You can pay a annual license that is like 4,000 euros and you have it. Ok. You can pay more you have a classes because I was researching this to see if we buy the software and I pay, but no, I give it to you at the moment. And then they increase the contrast to that image in which the "Remoción de Borrocidad" and "Paco" you could have taken a photo and we will upload a photo. Yes, but I think this is the automatic setup. Of course. For the software and what is this that the "Fletchita" taught? Well, it is a "Pico" a "Pendice Punti Agudo" according to the information. I thought it was more like a "Frende" Ah, of course, yes, like in "Picada" Of course. No, well, behind it, what they show is that it would be like the "Fotos" like the "Lechusa" that looks at the camera. Yes, yes, yes. It is a very good thing. The face. The same makeup in the "Sclarizador" of this image of the "Sofuari Paco" because it is so crazy like "Ah" Yes. And we just saw it with "crash" contrast, contrast, or something. No, but I don't know. I think they have made it a bit of a "Rose" of a "Rose" I don't know. The "Rose" is below, you have the original image and above it I don't know how much progress there is. Well, it is then recapitulating this is a "Tipo B" and they say it is a "Nabe" that grew inadvertently the "Vision" just in the moment of oppressing the "Dispare" button of the camera. Then this conclusion the fact that the photographer never saw in the landscape any object that calls the attention at the moment of the "Dispare". I really like how they write. I like a "Dispare" but I remember that they are forced to be loved. But it was a military. The following is the "Natalia Castillo" of Samuel Tukuman but in "Tukuman" it is a photo taken in August of 2022. Welcome to 2022. It is good that they also make it as a "Dispare". I can say that people send these photos to those who see as a person after. So they don't have the explanation. I don't know how they can justify it. And well, who did they invest? Who did they invest? The normal agency. The agency is called "Fantasma". Tipo, we already have many "Apa". The "Apa" of the "Norma Sapa" is the American Psychology Association. The "Apa" of the "Scien Siwana Dicita" The "Cafa". The "Cafa". The "Cafa" of the "Cafa" of the "Cafa". I think that you can't put "Cafa" in "Cafa". It's a public entity. Why not? Because no. Well, let's see. I was told that when you go out to buy and see this object in the sky. I was there suspended. In the video I saw how the object had a cut that was based on the color of the sky. Which was very fast. I thought that it was a "Balantine" barrilete. The reason why we kept observing and we went inside the house while the object was suspended. In your room you tell the barrilete barrilete. Apparently. We need people in your room to confirm that this is the place in your room in general or this woman and you tell her that there is a reason in the barricade. I'm going to show you the photo. So I want more people to see. But literally with the "Castor" the researchers of the sky used the "Sofuera" and "Paco" but in this time with a tool which is the vertical tool that does not end up understanding what is done to analyze a photo or a video but I think we have a video that is like a video because it determines if there is a thread that can be like anchoring that object. It seems to me that it is floating like this. Okay, yes, like this, with the thumb. With the thumb. A bit cut. The lower peaks of the graphic that is on the right are marked with red dots. They are the ones that indicate a continuity of points vertically aligned. Like the other lines that are moving I assume it is like a movement of the object in the image and that there is a point that is like a "extrapolar" that the thread is the one marked in this red triangle. With the type A we have a rhombic object with arrows on its side for the latter. It is static with the sky with a thread located below the same. All the elements found in this case and said in the investigators allow to infer the strategy of the OCam ship that is effectively a barrilette. Like a barrilette where you get out. I saw the two arrows on the fly. But I also think this picture is not like a new one. If you see something that is green, it is a barrilette. It was black with gray or similar. I don't know. I don't know if it can be the same color. I think it is the zoom that we see is the zoom of a photo that I assume it has to be taken out with a zoom type to close the cell phone. But well, very rhombic everything. In the case of Juan Barbanera from Moreno, he promised to say the witness sends a photo on the sky in February 2017 and below the right you can see a white and luminous white with a shadow in the lower left in the upper left. We send the photo with the zoom. And the love clip Yes, I see. Here this is the object and the zoom. There is the star. I told you to do it. That is the moon. Well, no, because it is being in the clip. What happens is and I have to show another photo that it is best to test it to talk about optical geometry is that it is a lens flare and the image can be seen as it is equidistant but well, in this photo we see thanks to the drawing of the diagonals and the connection of the sun which is a reflection of the lens and an image of the ghost which is evident by the equidistence in the center of the frame. There is no end in the case of the fact the order is the shadow the researchers of the shadow made a simulation of the sky in the stellar program *laughs* *laughs* *laughs* *reading* *reading* *reading* Because if the reflection is like a bet the light is on the other side and down to the right and up which is exactly what happens and that is our type A with this we reach the last case that we will present in this video that is the case Marcelo Cardenas from Verizo, Provincia de Buenos Aires all have names of NPC *laughs* I think all the names are our from the 30th of October 2022 the witness almost Halloween almost Halloween the witness has a photo and three videos in the first photo which is the photo no, Tivall what photo? no, Tivallair because I saw a qualification that you have the page 11 and you have the page 11 because it is the first photo of the 11 in the first photo we see that this object is a circular light and in the video you can see that this object moves in a rectiline trajectory at a certain point and returns the circular light is this yes, exactly the display is not to distinguish things it is to be a circle *laughs* and here you will see a mosaic that worked in the investigatory where you can see the movement of dicha luz and there you can see that you can see it and these are not the same photos but it is a compilation of the photos of the video where you see the movement in the black date it does not appear the light the witness describes the object as a snow ball and as we were with my dad in the door of the house to look at the sky by its own we can see a light between the clouds that was placed on the other side we saw them and I went to find the cell phone to take pictures and record it the hypothesis that the investigators started is that it was a projector the light disappears when you draw a light between the clouds that black part and the pattern of the light is observed in the case of the light in the case of the light we did a mini-audio in particular because it means with the white pilot that had happened the light reflected in a ball of a beautiful light the witness sends another video in this case I think it is in another video on Youtube but in this case I think it was not the light of the light on the black light is shown in the sky as it is the same day of October on the 27th I will read the type V conclusion if I can not detect the exact site of the projection all the elements found one, the form of the circle and the white circle two, its trajectory its trajectory is regular and repeating a pattern of Ida and Welta three, the fact that it is only seen in the cloud and it appeared in a massive phenomenon in the circle and all of them from the area the silver plate and verisol which confines the presence of operators of the reflector and the light appears in the video and it is compatible with a reflection in the base of the clouds of a projector operating in a automatic mode from a circular location and it is beautiful and also something that I think makes it because to put always according to the beginning of the clouds because I imagine that when publishing the resolutions each person will look at their own resolutions but I do not say that they send them the resolutions before they come out for me it is a compilation and I send them as a resolution of your case to the middle, to the middle to write a notification it is true because the individuality is noticeable because when you review there are two following cases or one in the middle in the file and that there are similar topics but they have the same explanation and a little bit explaining two of those for those following and I said, well, this is like to see it in each case for someone who feels to read the case that I can read it because that is my Christmas how many pages do you have in the form? 103 103 is there I feel small and how many of those many but they are very useful in the end they always have a kind of a sort of cake where the majority of the cases I think is 26% of them are from other types of things that they pass on the camera and many Starlink in the statistics that I have in the statistics that they pass on in the window in the file and many people who also comment on the beginning and I will not repeat this because but the end of this we can continue on instagram on instagram on twitter.com/sextapata youtube.com/sextapata and on the 6th.com you have a link to join our discord server if you want to make a donation on the 6th.com and the 6th.com and if you want to subscribe to our channel and there is one if you listen in spotify and if you listen to a few I leave the note more high and one line to listen to the story and if you have a comment on the 6th.com and many balloons so that you can make a donation so that you can make a donation so that you can make a donation so that you can send the 6th.com and many balloons so that you can make a donation so that you can make a donation and on the 6th.com you have a link to make a donation so that you can make a donation so that you can make a donation so that you can the 6th.com is recorded in the city of Maradclata the door was designed by Melanie DeVitch who can find an instagram as a new drawing the music is the soft whisper for the music and it was created by (music)
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
El episodio analiza varios casos de avistamientos investigados por la Comisión de Estudio de Fenómenos Aeroespaciales (CEFA) de Argentina.
Se presentan casos con explicaciones naturales, como huevos de araña transportados por el viento, aves, globos o reflejos de lente.
La CEFA clasifica sus conclusiones en Tipo A (explicación definitiva con evidencia irrefutable) y Tipo B (hipótesis apoyada por elementos clave).
Se utiliza software especializado, como "Paco", para analizar imágenes y videos en las investigaciones.
El episodio destaca el enfoque metodológico y escéptico de la comisión, aplicando el principio de parsimonia (Navaja de Occam).
Summary:
Este episodio del podcast se centra en analizar varios casos de presuntos fenómenos aeroespaciales investigados y resueltos por la Comisión de Estudio de Fenómenos Aeroespaciales (CEFA) de Argentina. La CEFA es un organismo público que estudia estos eventos para identificar sus causas. Se explican casos específicos, como un objeto con forma de corchea que resultaron ser huevos de araña transportados por el viento, una forma fusiforme que era probablemente un ave, un objeto romboidal estático que se concluyó era un barrilete (cometa), un punto luminoso que era un reflejo de lente (lens flare) y una luz circular en movimiento que se atribuyó al reflejo de un proyector en las nubes.
En cada caso, se detalla el análisis, que incluye el uso de software especializado como "Paco", y se menciona cómo la comisión clasifica sus conclusiones en Tipo A (explicación definitiva) o Tipo B (hipótesis plausible), aplicando un enfoque escéptico y metodológico basado en evidencia tangible y el principio de parsimonia para buscar las explicaciones más simples y probables.
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El C.A. es una entidad independiente de la Fuerza Aérea Argentina que organiza, coordina y ejecuta la investigación y análisis de eventos o elementos en el espacio aéreo para identificar causas e informar conclusiones a los órganos correspondientes.
El C.A. emite resoluciones tipo 'A', cuando hay evidencia irrefutable, y tipo 'B', cuando se identifican elementos clave que apoyan una hipótesis pero no constituyen una confirmación definitiva.
Utilizan un software francés llamado 'Paco', especializado en analizar imágenes de OVNIs, que incluye funciones como remoción de borrosidad y aumento de contraste para estudiar los casos.
Concluyeron que los objetos eran huevos de araña transportados por el viento a grandes distancias, basándose en su movimiento constante y en el principio de la navaja de Ockam, que favorece explicaciones simples.
Lo clasificaron como tipo 'B', sugiriendo que podría tratarse de un ave con las alas en posición horizontal capturada inadvertidamente en el momento de tomar la foto, ya que el fotógrafo no lo vio en el paisaje.
Determinaron que era un reflejo en la base de las nubes de un proyector operando en modo automático, debido a su forma circular, trayectoria repetitiva y aparición solo en condiciones nubosas.
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