Mila Caike: Lift and Carry G.O.A.T ?

All right, welcome to after our sessions podcast. This is your host Drock and today I have someone who Fans have been requesting and I was telling this person due to my ADHD and not being the best when it comes to Organization being organized. I thought I had reached out to this person But they go in my face. I hadn't reached out But this person was awesome from the jump down into the show and someone who a lot of people because as someone who loves this industry and Has different likes I'm a big lifting carry fan is those know and a lot of the fans have reached out to me because they're lifting carry fans And they're like you should interview this person. I'm like yeah, yeah, so I'm just honored because there's so much to talk about so many different things with this one The incredible mule cake is on with me so me list so good to have you on Hi, it's good to be here You are super professional and I have turned down a lot of requests to do this kind of thing And I am very excited that I finally found someone worth talking to so Good job, thank you. Thank you. That means a lot. That means a lot. I really appreciate that yeah Um, I try to be because I I'm like just because we're in this industry and you know we're fans of like you know BDSM session right kink. It's like there's still Respect and professionalism and stuff like that doesn't go away And I feel like sometimes a lot of people even like outside people That's what they think like and I'm like no, they're still we're still human beings They're still respect and boundaries and that's always needed so I'm glad because that's that's always what I want Make sure people feel is and this is a safe space here. It well, it sure feels like one So I'm excited for whatever you have in the store for me. Awesome. Awesome. So I will start with this where I first saw you Was I want to say it had to be 20 25 but now ever since COVID the years and days just blur together so I could be wrong but Been someone who has been a fan of seen amazon Amanda for so long She had a clip on her twitter of you lifting her up and I was who was this and that was my first time seeing you was on her twitter So I have to ask how did you meet amazon Amanda and what was that like being able to lift and carry Oh, that's a fun story. I I got started. I want to say around Summer of 2024 and then I didn't make any content with anybody else um until like September 13th, 2024 And for a long time I didn't I didn't have anybody else to make content with and I was trying to figure out exactly with direction I wanted to go in and people you know basically kept telling me to do more lifting carry in Do wrestling and so that's how I ended up meeting amazon Amanda I had a client fly out from canada because he found out that she was going to be in Arizona where I'm from pouring and he realized that he could have a double session if She and I were gonna be in the same place. So that's what happened That's so I met her we did the session together. I you know, I don't have nearly the amount of experience that she does obviously and I was a little too mean to him beginning of the session. I thought he could hear me telling him what to do and he could not and so I finished him a little brutally But she liked my style even so so she had me come back the next day She like hired me to do some modeling for her and That's when I got to pick her up and the piggyback ride is what I got to do Funny enough. She oh, I'll tell you I Is a little excited to one of the people that I have made content with in the past Oh gosh his his username like what he goes by I'm blanking on right now sounds like a mori Emore yes, yes So he was the one that was there while I was giving her the piggyback ride and I believe he was the one recording that and When I said hey, I want you to hop on my back, but you're kind of tall. I'm kind of short So be like a little bit awkward for you to hop on she she climbed on the bed And she was sitting on the bed and then she just God on And she did not think I was gonna give her a ride like actually walk her around and I started like spinning around and walking her around the room She was like she thought it was gonna be very quick and I was like wait wait wait wait wait I said piggyback ride not piggyback stands here She was really shocked that I was able to like carry her around the room Um, and it was actually really easy. I thought it would be a lot harder than it was I'm not sure how much she weighed in that video. It was at least my usual limit which is 330 for piggyback rides Okay, okay. Yeah, cuz I feel I mean, I don't know I know she I know what she has listed I've seen three 70 to three 80. I don't know what if that's what she was at the time or anything 380 sounds about right and that was the heaviest like that's the most that I've ever given Like a piggyback ride. I've had I've had 330. I've had like 350 But yeah, I never never quite as heavy as 380. So I wanted I wanted to cross that off the list. Wow Okay, so that's awesome because she doesn't usually let people so I know that means she she really trusted you then Because she asked her that before she doesn't let bitty people try that. I know she doesn't she hated it She told she was like I think she prefaced like the video too with I'm doing this for you guys You know, I'm not a fan but she's so strong and and then she she underestimated me on top of it Which I get such a kick out of I love when people don't think You know that I'm gonna be even stronger than I am and or yeah, so good That's awesome now. I'm wondering because then this will just really blow me away Do you have a limit for each lift like as you said 330 for piggyback? Is there is that 330 all around is like your your max or is there? That's such a fun question because it really depends on the people's dimensions So recently I put out a video of like let me say this first I took like a little break from lifting from doing sessions for making content because I wanted some time to enjoy the holidays And then the birthday happens to be in January No, happy belated Thank you one week since turning 31 Um, but Yeah, so I just wanted to like take a break and then I tend to not when I go to the gym and then I eat every sugary things because the holidays So anyway, I'm just getting back into it Um and gaining all my strength back and losing some fat in places But I recently put a video up Of me getting back into things carrying like a 165 pound guy on this shoulder and like 120 125 pound woman on this shoulder I just wanted that today yeah, I saw Um, yeah, I got my I got my gym coach to actually record that he's such a cool dude uh, and That was actually super easy that was 280 pounds on my shoulders. I've done good mornings with someone Sorry, I think okay. Um, I've done good mornings with someone who weighed like I want to say around 270 But it's all in the body is dimensions and like where the weight is like I have such an easier time with someone who like amazon Amanda is super tall Um, because there's that way to stretched out. It's not on their midsection Or someone who's like really muscular and maybe they're top heavy, but I can work with that It's just like when there's not room to grab them or like dodge and they have that's when it's hard for me because it requires You know different strength that I don't necessarily have yet Mm-hmm, but I'm working on that with my coach. Okay. Okay. So I'm wondering who is there someone that sticks out that was like the hardest to lift Yes, immediately immediately yes, I tried to lift someone the other day. Um, it was a fireman's carry 250 pounds Two six foot three Which is actually pretty tall so I thought it would be fine But he was absolutely dead weight didn't help at all and his legs were just so large that I couldn't get my arm around them to stabilize him And that was the difficult part It wasn't like his weight on my shoulders I probably would have had an easier time if he was just like sitting on my shoulders But it was like the trying to wrap my arm around his big legs and keep him there without any help was a lot Okay, okay now is there is there a favorite lift? Do you like to do in the sessions like they're one that you really enjoyed doing one another's or they're all pretty good? I you know what I guess I do my favorite thing Is to get somebody on my shoulders and you know, we're both facing the same direction obviously And I like to do good mornings where they're slowly being lowered to the ground Okay, and I just keep going lower and lower and lower until they think that I'm not gonna be able to get back up And then I very quickly hop back up with them still there and I like to make them flinch and then I punished them for that later For thinking that I wasn't strong enough to get them back up Usually like slam on them after that So and for those listening don't worry we're gonna there's so much more to talk about but I as someone who loves lifted carry I got to ask Do you enjoy do you get more pleasure out of picking someone up who's heavy and being like wow You know you feel good about that or someone who you know is real light But you can twirl them around and like you can create new lifts and all that kind of stuff Which one gives you more joy? That's a fun question too Can I can I choose like a sort of third off? which is I just love when they tell me no one's ever lifted me like that before and I hear that from basically everybody I hear that from dudes who weigh 160 pounds and from dudes who weigh 200 plus pounds 220 to 40 to 50. They're always so shocked like I've had I've had guys who are only 160 165 that absolutely can't believe I can just rattle them throw them across the room slam them like drag them around have no difficulty what whatsoever man handling them no match in wrestling I mean, there's so much lighter right and then the guys who are bigger who are much more of a challenge and that's like you know part of a pride thing but like they're just so shocked they have this look on their face like oh my god Literally no one has done this and that is super satisfying to me I bet it's got to because I I someone who likes to do but I like to be like you I like lifting you know people okay, okay, oh yeah, no, I'm not the I'm not the one who gets lifted okay See if you had said that sooner I wouldn't have been sizing you up this whole time trying to decide how I'd But you were wondering how you I mean I'm gonna be wrong. I've been so Amazon Amanda It's the only one who's ever she lifted me okay Yes, yes, so she did she's the only one though. She's one. Oh, that that had oh that was years ago. That was 2013 2012 Oh, okay, yeah, I was in high school. I was young. I was 23 24 at the time. I was But yeah, that was fun. I when I because I've seen her a bunch of times and then when she came on the podcast This was like wow four years ago now. I told her I would confess that I had lied because I did because it was my first time Sessioning with her and I was like yeah, you know, I'm like no one else can lift me so like let me ask her and she was like I don't know the you know depends my back kind of hurts This is but I was she's like I see you tonight and I'm like okay, and so I you know walk in we talk and then I was just like Yeah, well you probably couldn't do it anyway. You couldn't lift me up and she was like oh really and she's in four and she deals so she six seven and she picked me up fireman carry and she she asked me how much I weighed and I was like 250 to 60 And then years later I told her the truth I said I lied because I didn't want to scare you off. I was 280 at the time And so my that means that's even more impressive that you fireman carried with a bad back 280 This is you we laughed about it, but I was I was like yeah, yeah, no you because she had that thing of like what you think I can't Then she that competitive in her came out. I was like I'm like no, I was you know 275 or 280 that but that's where I was so she she did it so I was like you know Years later decade later I apologize for lying, but I wanted I didn't want to scare you off, but she did it She's the only one. That doesn't surprise me. I mean she and I are pretty similar in strength and when I met her She was shocked like she she had a number of people she was collabbing with that day and you know They were slowly like trickling into her hotel room and before I was like totally done hanging out for the day I waited for them to kind of show up and you know she was telling all of them you gotta see what me look and do this is crazy You guys look at this she's so freaking strong look what she does to this guy or you more really suffered that day I'll tell you I was ruthless with him. I haven't seen him since maybe that's why well I mean people should know what they're getting into I guess and they sign up to hang out with me for For some amount of time, but yeah, I was so proud that she was like showing me off to her friends and telling me that's awesome Yeah, and because she's a legend so like the fact that you impressed her that's that's really cool That's that's something to be proud of for sure. That's really that's how I saw you on her pay and then I was who was this and Then the other people started messaging me about you too, but that was the first clip I was like picked her up with ease, but I I would you know followed you on Twitter after that and then seeing Your clips like on Twitter, but then you know buying your clips Just the athleticism you have and it just impresses me just from the splits to the the amazing carries and stuff And I I'm always ask people were you someone who grew up playing sports? Did you get it or not or like how because you're you're just an amazing athlete and I'm just like wow It's I just want to know like were you did you play other sports or this is just kind of like comes natural to you So I didn't really do sports as a kid like when I was really little I was in ballet and then when I was a little bit older I was I was roller skating for a few years, but like I mean I still I still roller skate now That's like my favorite way to get cardio in and When I was a kid though, I was always just kind of freakishly strong. Okay. I my mom likes to tell me stories about how when I was two years old If she was vacuuming I would lift up the furniture so she could get under it Okay, like a big regular size couch here mom. Just let me pick it up for you And apparently one time I Lifted a couch or she was laying on it, which is insane. Maybe three. So I've always been really strong But I have to work pretty hard to be as strong as I am because I'm in the gym like three to five days a week now as long as I'm not I want to break like I just was Okay, and so does that come from anything that you see it was other people in your family until strength or that was just you can't explain why you've always just kind of been So so my situation is a little unique. I My dad was literally a sperm donor. I have no idea what he looks like. I know that he is German blonde hair blue eyed smart German guy and I have basically my my mom's like body frame like from the neck down We're kind of identical in terms of like proportions and my pelvis itself. I like to tell people it never I will never fit in an airplane seat because my pelvis itself is more than 18 inches wide. Wow. Okay. Yeah, so I have like a sturdy foundation here Sorry, I'm just coming off of being sick No, no, it's nowhere. He's at all. No, no, you yeah, so that's always so that's key having that sturdy foundation But it's just I'm just always because I grew up as a kid who was you know being a thicker guy and when you know You're in like first grade second grade and it's always you know the gym teachers like run you know Run a mile do like run have races and I was always pulling up the rear and I was six or seven years old where I'm speed Is never going to be my thing. I just kind of knew I'm not fat and that made me kind of go to like strength where from I don't know watching pro wrestling or Comic books and then when I was seven or eight I would watch ESPN 2 and world strongest man And then I was like that's what gets me and watching power lifting in the Olympics So I kind of gravitated toward that so I didn't know if that was would you gravitate towards something like that or it was just kind of You know what I will say this so I wasn't in sports as a kid mostly because my school didn't have them I really wanted to play football because I thought I would be just so good at it But I'm a musician and I had other interests that I was giving so much of my time to but people will probably appreciate hearing Even like an elementary in high school. I would try to get my friends so let me lift them up And I don't I probably don't get out of it. These other people get out of asking me to do it, you know Um, it just it just gives me a thrill. I get a kick out of being able to pick up someone's entire being in my I get I know for me I get when I do it in like my in a session or just you know a friend in like my personal life I think I get the same kick that someone who enjoys being lifted. I think so like you may get that same thrill like at my b I just I don't know. I just enjoy it. It's a weird it's a weird funny thing I just like I have had so many boyfriend that have ended up breaking up with me because maybe they were sitting next to me on the couch And that was still too far away so I would like scoop them up and place them on my lap and they absolutely couldn't handle that And thankfully thankfully they didn't keep any of them around because that's lame and not fun at all Yeah, they're a big guys little guys like Yeah, somewhere between like I don't know most of them have been somewhere between like 180 and 280 pounds But my my current partner is 125 pounds and he is featured in a lot of my content and he absolutely doesn't mind Being lifted pretty regularly use him as my weight in the gym which comes in handy because it can be pretty busy And so it's nice that I have him to to practice certain things Um like you know like cradling ham while doing sit-ups is it is nice to be able to do Or you know carrying them on one shoulder just to get the obliques on the other side, right? So I hear you okay That's I'm totally down. Yeah. Yeah, so it's super it's super it's super cool to have somebody that's so willing and it doesn't affect his masculinity Or how he thinks of himself that his girlfriend is so big and so strong So was that something Did was that something that always you kind of had to look for like a red flag or is that recent like making sure like When it comes to a partner. They're not and they're mature and comfortable in their masculinity where most likely Most people you meet you're gonna be stronger than so like someone's not gonna be like You know all I don't know I'm probably a nicer way to say just bitch assness about it But like you know that's a great way to put it though, isn't it? Yeah It's just bitch assness. Yes, that's exactly what it is. You know, I have been in so many situations where a guy just got really angry that I was stronger. It's usually, it usually is something I find out rather quickly because if you know me or you're trying to actually get to know me, I'm in the gym a lot. I'm roller skating or hiking or going on walks or whatever a lot. And at some point, pretty quick, you could have figured out that I'm stronger than you. But I'm going to tell real quick how you feel about it because men are not good at hiding when they feel emasculated. They just, they just cannot. And it's funny because, because that show of like being embarrassed or whatever is so much more embarrassing than just admitting that the girl is stronger than you and saying you're fine with it is so much hotter and so much less bitch assy. Yeah, yeah, it really is. It really is. I really do. I think that's the coolest. So I personally love it when I see like a couple out and like the woman's taller than the man. And it's like, yeah, that's cool. Like it shouldn't matter. Like because I just know so many people in my personal life on both ends where like that topic matters. And then I'm like, but that person's so cool. Like you would let that get in the way. And sadly, they, I don't think they would even try to talk to someone like I have guys who are like, she's this height. And oh man, she seems cool. But nope. And I'm like, what? Just because she's taller than you. And I know what a lady's vice versa. And so it's like things like that where it's like, okay, like Milla's stronger than you. Who cares? Like what was that even? Why's that bother you? You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. No, I, it's so cute because you know, in the past, it's like they always had something to prove that is not the case here with my current partner. He pretty frequently says, Hey, Milla, can I borrow your woman's strength for a minute? And like if he needs help opening something or like we were, we were trying to fix up the bathroom in his apartment. And he was putting a new shower head on. But the other one was so tightly screwed in. He absolutely couldn't get it off. And we didn't want to like ruin the old one with fires or whatever. Or like, like a rancher, any type, you know, and I was like, I got it. So I come in and I just get 30 pounds of grip strength that off. And so I'm pretty used to him saying stuff like that to me, which is nice because I definitely am not accustomed to men being so proud and like accepting of that. Yeah. Yeah. And that I like, I don't think it really affects the dynamic so much except we did have a conversation a couple of months ago about like, you know, who's going to be more dominant and more submissive and and how is that all going to work out? And I was like, you know, it takes a strong man to make me weak enough. So maybe just be that. You know, don't try to be stronger than me. Just make me weaker than you. Just make me weak. I think he's got to figure it out. Okay. Okay. Was that hard for you to kind of be submissive a little bit of that that's pretty easy. No, I am a very submissive person actually in my personal life. It's much more natural for me and much more comfortable for me. I kind of see myself as like, I how do I put it? I wouldn't say like the school bully, but just like, like a big squishy way too strong little cutie pie. That is just kind of overwhelmed you. And it's not my fault. I just can't help it. Like that's kind of how I see myself. Not not quite the same vibe as someone like, you know, Gio or Amazon Amanda. I'm more like leather dom and a little bit more like school teacher vibe. Dom or like older woman, you know, mature, sophisticated kind of. I feel a little bit more like squishy, cutie, like unexpectedly overpowering. Right. Right. Okay. And how did you kind of because I think you nailed it the description from someone who's watched a bunch of your clips. I think that's that's it. But you have fun side, but you're still dominating the person and like can rough them up. But it's it's not the I guess the prototypical dominatrix. So how did you write? Right. Right. You're not as like you're fun. You're like laughing. Yeah. But you're while you're like, you know, throwing the guy across the room kind of, you know, so it's just cool. I guess it's kind of like Gia's a little bit. Gia, I would say you're more giggly even than Gia from the videos I've seen at least. It's funny because most of the content that I've seen from from both of those ladies is from men who have session with me and wanted to show me what they recorded with them. Gotcha. So I mean, my impression might be a little off, but I don't know. I guess I mean, I'm giggling because I genuinely think it's hilarious. Like I don't know, I think it's so funny that I'm capable. And then I think it's so funny that they're just going to have to sit there and take it and they absolutely can do nothing about it. Because what are they going to do? They're tiny. They're like the size of one of my legs. No, no, but it's still like, you know, I think I think people don't understand like the tat light. What's you're doing and you know, since you mentioned like Amanda, Gia, like there's something to that. Like there's an art form to it where you're not because if you don't know how to do it, you could hurt somebody. So it's like a with that how to do it and not really hurt someone like we're like, I'm not saying like they're going like it's so I mean like hurting someone where it's like we had go to ER, which I've seen people do like doms and sesames was where it's like I had a dom. I was meeting with I drove an hour and it was she was like I got to take the person I just saw to the emergency room and I was like, well, that's awful. No, and I'm like, well, that's not good for me. I'm not feeling great about that. Like what? Like I'm like, hey, Daz, but what happened because like now I'm kind of concerned here. In the in the situation I mentioned before where I was a little too rough with someone. There was a miscommunication there and that's what happened. He kept just nodding along like he understood what I was saying and he shouldn't have done that because he wasn't hearing a word I was saying. And that's how he ended up getting punched in the gut so hard that he cried poor guy. And he thought that you know he was like he was hurting pretty bad. I feel sorry for him. But at the same time like don't be stupid and not along with someone who's punching you in the gut and repeat. Right. Anyway, yeah, that's different. Yeah, that's that's that's different than like you know, who you know, whether they're doing face sitting or or butt drops and then they they don't know how to properly do it. But there's like so there's that part. But also like from watching like your videos or other people it's like, you know, you couldn't sell clip. Maybe you could I don't know. I'm not an expert. But like you're doing creative things like you're you might be sitting on someone but then you're doing a split and then you're doing this and then you're caring like it takes stuff because if you just like, all right, I'm sitting, I mean, maybe in a session, I'm sure people want that. But if you just like, I plop on you and it's like the whole clip is like 15 minutes of just I'm just laying on you and that no one moves. It's like that's not that's not you got to like be able to like do things with it and have that like charisma with the camera and all those things like it's an art form what you guys are doing. You know, I agree. However, I can't tell you how many times I've gotten a request to just do exactly the boring thing that you just described for a clip or for a session. The for a clip. Really? Yeah, I have a I have a couple of regulars who session with me who request just like the most boring stuff of like, please just sit on that person's face and I want there to be a timer. And I mean, I can't just be silent though because that would be too boring for me. So usually I'll like say something during that time. But yeah, it's that's funny that you mentioned that. I hate those requests. It's like give me something interesting. Give me something like throw the guy on your arm and do dirty things to him. You know, like right, right. Give me something like that. Not sit on for 15 minutes. Man, I see I'm always surprised because then I'm thinking, okay, people but then it's like, yeah, there's every there's something for everyone I should say because every some people just want and I've heard stories going on the podcast or other like, yeah, they just wanted me to they just wanted to watch me eat. And that was the whole like two hours. And I'm like, wow. Oh yeah, I get that sometimes I get part of it. But I'm like, I probably wouldn't need I would maybe that's the 80 HD. I would need something else because my thing is I do like four, I can hour session. I'm throwing like five things. Can we do this for like, and then this and in that, and I'm just like, let's just yeah, let's keep going. That's that's funny. I can't pretend that I don't appreciate the guys who are like, hey, I just want our session to be me hanging out with you. And I'm going to bring you something to eat and you can sit on me while you eat it. But I just want to like hang out. That's nice. And they know that I have a busy day. Like I went to LA and I think I had 10 hours of sessions in a day, multiple times, had hours. And a lot of that is like, lifting and carrying and you know, me repeatedly, you've seen what I do. I kind of get like on all fours over somebody and then I like slam onto them into the splits from that position. So like hop up by back end and doing that for 10 hours is a lot. So I love it when people are like, hey, I want to I want to have a session with you, but I'm just going to bring you food and hang out very welcome. I bet I can only imagine. Yeah, like because it's just those are the things that I was like doing the show for people I know old listeners have heard it, but you know you get new listeners It's like to know what goes into doing what you guys do and it's not it's beyond just the actual sessions or clips It's the organizing the travel organizing this and that and yeah Like the amount of times where have a busy day of sessions and it's like that's physically taxing if you're going from 9 a.m Or 10 a.m. to 9 p.m. at night like you know Sometimes it's like oh yeah, I'll bring you I'll bring a lunch because it's like that's true because you want to have a busy schedule because that's money But then it's like yeah, when will you have time to get lunch? When will you have time to do whatever? Yeah, you know like it's check emails or call people back or something Well, I'll tell you my secrets if you want to hear them of course Of course, so so when I go to LA. I mean, it's like a six plus hour drive from where I live So not a huge deal, but like I will make three or four pounds of ground beef and just big chunks Before I go I pack a big cooler. I got all sorts of electrolyte drinks prime not as thawnser Set out the prime I love prime. We talked about this before the podcast. I really love prime It's so good like if you if you need an electrolyte drink get that don't get gatorade gatorade sucks Anyway, so I'll like I'll like pack that and then I go to Aldi because they always have healthy snacks on clearance And like I'll just get a bunch of like high fiber snacks like whatever high fiber things I can because it's hard to make vegetables happen on a road trip But then the real prep is like two weeks before I have to be so strict about everything like no no marijuana And I don't I don't drink so that's not a big deal But I have to be sober for a couple of weeks to make sure I absolutely have the stamina to do 10 hours worth of sessions In a row back to back whatever and then I train cardio extra hard those couple of weeks before to make sure I have the stamina Yeah, and it's just like I have to be so calculated about every day leading up to the to the session days when I'm traveling like that and I always wonder like people like Gia and Amazon Amanda who Tour and travel pretty often and you know are pretty famous for feats of strength and that kind of thing I just have no idea how they do it like with the little amount of break time that they have because it's Exhausting. Yeah, I can imagine I've talked to Gia's both of them have been on the show I know Gia does like some van She will have like her van a lot of times and will drive around like a convertive van and like you know park it outside the hotel But like that's like you know her and her her and her dog like that's that's what they do for Part of the part of the time when she's in the US. I know she does that and Amanda amazes me Yeah, cuz it's it's going on one like 25 plus years and all the traps. She stays traveling like she I think I'd be wired you gotta be wired for some people are wired to just they love it. I it's not that I don't like traveling I really do but it's I have a day job and a License to keep and maintain and I have to work so many hours or else they don't have a license and it's like You know, it's been really nice to have my day job when I've been injured and I've been coming back from a couple of different injuries You know over the last couple of years. I've had so many different random injuries like Elevator shoulder ankle, right? But like that takes time so it's it's nice to have that at least and it's like well I Can't imagine trying to trying to live through a shoulder injury like I did pretty recently and not have a different source of income Yeah, no, that's that's all interesting things that yeah, I think about as well. I love talking to people because It's even though I think we've come a ways where like you know, we it's not it's still underground But not it like it was years ago. Yeah, but it still takes like People like a just getting into it and in be being like yeah I'm doing well enough where this is gonna be my income like that like I always sometimes I like I wish I could do like Because everyone's income is their own business, but like almost like I can have an episode where someone explains like This is what I was looking at was like hey, this is what I need to make to be financially good to like this is my full-time job and this is how much I have saved in case of a rainy day and You know and this is what I do when it comes to tax time and all that like I think that'd be like pretty cool to hear because it's like Yeah, I wonder like what what is that marker for when people are this is my full-time job? Well, I I will tell you this I Certainly make much more money making content and doing sessions than I make from my full-time job and that even That even sometimes includes much slower months where I'm taking a bit of a break and I hardly make any new content Or maybe I didn't upload anything new that whole month. I still make more money than my day job like it's It's it's really just like a matter of like okay, you know, I'm 31 now I need to maintain my license at the same time You know my body when will my body be totally done with this? I mean I don't I don't know I keep I keep having random little injuries that are kind of holding me back But I also since then have had a team of physical therapists the team of trainers I've learned a million different things about how to strengthen things on my body So I can throw people in a way that doesn't hurt me and you know lift people and Brace certain muscles and the issue with my shoulder. It was so funny It's literally just that my muscles and my my shoulders were getting a little too big in places and not quite big enough on other places and kind of tight Okay So it's not like torn just like streamed from being so mushy somewhere I'm working on it. Yeah So I have to ask like how did you I guess is two part? How did you hear about this world and what made you decide to hey? I'm gonna give this a try That's such a funny story - I Wait, let me think about what year this was so I said that I started in like July of 2024 so in July of 2023 a guy messaged me on my personal my then personal pet life account and You know he saw my pictures and he just wanted me to do like a session with him and he offered me You know however many hundred dollars to do you know one or two hours session with him and I literally didn't respond to him for a year Until I was like, you know a few hundred dollars. It sounds pretty good right now just because I I was finished I had been finishing up my degree and I Had just barely been you know starting my career and whatever and I wasn't making a whole lot of money and I was like You know what let's go let's go let's find out and in that session I I found out that this person happened to be really into you know Women who are really strong and women who are really big and I just ended up being like a perfect match And that same day that I agreed to do the session with him I Happened to meet a woman who lives down the street for me I almost want to tell you who she is because she's she's sort of famous Google MRI butt plug. I know her. I know her. Okay We're not we're not friends anymore. That was I was like a my choice thing But she I mean she was cool in the beginning teaching me kind of the ropes I just happened to meet her that same day and she introduced me to Reddit and How to post and you know just different kind of things and she she really kind of helped me out with that one and I was using Fetlay for a little bit in the very beginning and then I happened to have a friend a male friend who was in Texas That we've been good friends for a long long time and he is on the other side of things So he goes and get sessions with women on session girls and he helped me with he filled in all of the gaps basically Okay And whenever I'm like, gosh, I you know like hey, hey bro. Do you know? You know X Y and Z about this should I you know like he he's been super super helpful in Just like like the odds and ends of this industry if that makes sense Yeah, you see people charge, you know, what what should I require if people before a session right like sometimes people require like a photo ID or a selfie or or a video or whatever it is Right to make sure that you're safe like these are all other things that we have to consider That you know, we're protected in some way like some form of insurance from someone doing something terrible And so far I've only had one person do something terrible so it's pretty good considering how many sessions I've had Yeah, I I say the same I I've only had I can say Two in all the years and one of them was a session rest or the other one was a dominatrix But of all the year like so like that's really that's really overwhelmingly good Like you know, I mean you want zero. That's like what you would wish sure The fact that like for you only one me only other two like it's like yeah, so most that's why I like to let people know Most people who are part of this and are into this are great people awesome people Yeah, I generally find that you know like I'll get anxious before meeting someone I haven't session before or even like someone I have I'm just nervous. You never know And they always just are so sweet and so nice except that one guy Yeah, they're always just they're always very respectful Oftentimes they're they're kind of shy or nervous So you say nervous even if you met the part are you nervous? like anticipation, like excitement, or you're you're having anxiety. It depends. Sometimes we'll have a little anxiety. And if I know that the guy is going to be really big and, you know, there's any sort of chance that he could possibly overpower me, but generally, I'm just nervous to meet someone new and, you know, kind of learn them and figure out what they like and not hurt them. Because, you know, when we talked about that, that's a, that's a big deal. And like, you know, just at the very beginning of the session, you like the talking and then the kind of warming up to things, like you got to test how bendy their ribs are and you got to test how much their skull bends when your thighs are around it. And if, you know, there's a cracking point. People ask me often enough to actually crack their skull open, which is crazy because I, I mean, on paper, I have the strength to do it. And I obviously don't want brain matter on my legs. No, no. Yeah. So it's just like stuff like that that makes me a little bit nervous. Like, okay, this person wants me to go hard and they're going to ask me to keep going harder or they're nor their boundaries. But like, I have to figure out what the real physical limit is because I can't be driving somebody to the ER. That's time and money and pain. Time money paying reputation. Well, yeah. I mean, I think, I think that for some people, they would be like even more interested to see me if they knew that I physically injured something. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's the. Yeah. That's true. Well, actually, you're right. Probably no matter what. And I think it depends because then that person could write a review. It could be like, she's, even as their fault, it could be like, date, she meals, sent me to the ER, but she also had that person who was like, it was awesome. She sent me to the ER. So you get like either way, might be something. I guess, I guess the ER sending really is more of like a, we're boundaries crossed or not. Yeah. I don't have so many people regularly ask me to do things that would put them out for weeks on it. Like, man, you don't know what I'm capable of. You think you're asking me to do something that I'm not actually going to be able to do, but you're not. So be, be smarter. Right. Right. I, because I don't get it with people because I'm like, I don't, I don't get, like I would never want to be heard enough where there's one thing if I'm, I'm going to wake up like, you know, like kind of like the equivalent of like lifting weights, like I'm kind of sore the next day, but you're still living your life. Like, I don't get who we want to do a session where it's like, I'm out of commission for my day job for the next two weeks because, you know, I mean, I don't see like the, why would you want that? Like that's just, I wouldn't want that, but some people do. I mean, I agree. I hate having an injury and not being able to, to do what I do. No, no, thank you. I have hardware in this body already. I've had to go to PT for months on end. Like, why would you be expensive in the torture? No, thanks. Nope, nope, nope. I had friends. We would play touch football or basketball and they're diving for the ball and going, and I'm, this is crazy. And then my one buddy, he like broke his wrist and couldn't work because he was diving for the ball. I go, this isn't the Super Bowl, man. We're, this is the turkey bowl. We're just something to do before Thanksgiving. He's just catch D. And I do you really have to make this catch? Like it's okay. But then broken, I'm driving him to the ER on Thanksgiving and he can't work, you know, because it's his hand that he writes with. He can't do anything. And I'm like, this was that catch really worth it. How it was it worth it, you know, but, um, so I will, that friend of yours in Texas. Yeah. Because I'm always curious when I see someone come into the industry and they, how they find their style and it can mean anything from what they wear, how they look to like what they're doing in sessions and clips and stuff. Like because I think everyone, people have lists of like what they do. But there's, I think everyone's kind of known for something. Like there's like some primary thing that they're known for. So for you, did that friend help you kind of like find your style or tell you about different things or like how, how was it for you? That's interesting. He did a little bit. So he and I met because I back in the day when Whisper existed, I, I had randomly made a post one night about giving people piggyback rides. And that happens to be my friend biggest kink ever. He really wants to get piggyback rides from like a mommy, Dom. Um, is, is interesting, which was interesting to me then because I didn't realize that that was something that people had a kink for. Um, and that's kind of how we started talking and we became friends after that. Um, and it's been, it's been a few years now that we've known each other. Um, and yeah, I guess in getting started with this, you know, I definitely had lots of people saying, Oh my gosh, you should do this and you should do that. And oh, wow, you are totally capable of X, Y and Z. And when I first started, I was doing like solo content stuff and I had posted a little bit of me lifting at the gym here and there. And then, you know, September of like what, 2024 is what I was saying. Um, I made content with a partner then. And I added in some tiny little bits of like wrestling stuff and listen, carry stuff. And people just love that and requested more and that's kind of where that came from. But I always thought it would be just kind of fun to do anyway. And I sort of fell into it. It just kind of worked out. And then I, I've never really felt a strong connection with that strict, dom type that we were that we were talking about earlier. Right. So I just, it just kind of became my style is just kind of the style I feel like that I, I sort of have in my daily life in a lot of ways, but with more throwing people. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. Okay. And I wanted to ask that because it's interesting, like seeing your clips, what one thing like one of the many things, but I'll say this one, I admire is like I, I like, you know, pure lift and carry. I like pure wrestling. I like sensual. And so when you see someone who can like have all, all of those in like a clip, like it's really cool. And I think that's what you do really well. Like one of the many things, but like you're going to get some wrestling, you're going to get lifting carry, but you're going to get like a central kind of feel. You're going to get like a, like you can do all that and like a 10 minute clip. And it's like, I think if you want like a dom clip, I would say, go, if you want lifting carry, me live, you want central, you know, like you could do all those things. So that's why I was wondering like, how did you find that like comfort zone to, to do lifting carry, but also in like wrestling, but also like the, the sensual stuff too. As I made more content and did more sessions, I just really, like I was telling you earlier when we were talking about like what I prefer when it comes to lift and carry, I just really love to see that look on their face of being shocked that I did it. Like, huh, you were here and now you're over there. Right, right. And now I'm on top of you. I just, I love that, that like, I can't tell you how many times I've also heard people tell me that they experienced genuine fear for the first time in their entire life when they were in a root with me because they've never met someone so big and strong and capable of killing them with their bare hands. And I mean, that's the pretty wild statement, but it's like, I guess, I guess I'm kind of that powerful. I don't know. I get a kick out of that look on their face because you can see that they are terrified. And that's what they pay me for. Which isn't that crazy though? It's not crazy just being for me like psychology and into this, but it's like, I don't know for your clientele, like, I can't speak on that. But so many of the guys who would pay someone to do what you're doing, but then couldn't date someone like that too, which is always like, yeah. Yeah. I do. I do get a handful of customers who I am able to confirm are married or have a girlfriend and generally those ladies are tiny and petite and weak and not like not even as big as one of my arms, you know, let alone my leg. And it's just, it's just kind of crazy to me that the like, they have such different types of things that they're attracted to and what they choose to spend their life with versus what they choose to fetishize is interesting. Like, I don't really care. I'm not, I'm not really offended by it. I definitely was offended by it when I was younger for, I mean, for good reason. Like, it's, it's pretty annoying when, you know, you want to date somebody, but they just want you to wrestle with them. Yeah. But then on the other hand, it's really annoying when you just want to date somebody and they won't wrestle you because they think that's a masculine thing. So, yeah, I'm just, I'm really lucky. I guess I would say I'm really lucky now that I found that there are a number of people who fetishize me, but also care to get to know me, which is nice. But I mean, at this point, I am pretty accepting of the position that I've been and I get it. You got mommy issues, you got school bully issues. I've heard it all. Yeah. How guys ended up being into someone like me. I get a lot of pro athletes that are really quite talented and aren't used to someone beating them in a match. And they just don't really have the opportunity to wrestle with women. So like I get collegiate athletes football players who really just want to know what it's like to feel weak and small for once. And I, and I give them that. So can I ask you? Yeah. Because you said football, I guess those, those, those would be the biggest athletes you've met with as it have been football players or what's the, I don't know if you know, actually, if you, if you do know, high end weight or at least just the weight of like the biggest athlete you met with. There's one guy. who comes to mind, who was like 280 pounds and six foot four, but that was not a lift and carry session. That was like a butt drop session and he wanted them on repeat hard, like the hardest I've ever done. I was working so hard to jump high enough. I'm not kidding and I wasn't on the bed either. So I was jumping, he was like laying across the couch and I was jumping up on the edge of the couch to land on him. That was very challenging physically for me to like to jump from a couch onto him with his laying on a couch. And he was a sturdy guy. Like I am used to, you know, I said, on lots of people, that's what they did. Right, right. And I'm used to feeling like a certain amount of give and like knowing, okay, this might be a little too much for them. I have to lessen things, right? This guy never once did I feel like he was capable of being broken in the whole section no matter what I did. I even had him lay on the bed and I was like, stood and I belly flopped onto him. Nothing made his ribs bend even a little bit. Yeah, he just felt solid. Was he feeling any pain? Was he just, he didn't win. It's like he was in pain. He was just, he was just kind of like, hmm, calm. The whole time. That's, wow, that's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's awesome, but that's like, that's crazy. Like just, just, wow. Okay. So that, yeah, I always just wonder. So like, because it's just interesting, I think it's really cool that your partner is in your, your clips, like at least in a lot of them. I don't know how many, like, exactly. How was that like, did you bring that up? Did he bring that up? Or is that like, he, it's really kind of funny. We, he contacted me on FET life in response to an ad I put off looking for people to shoot content with. And when we met the first time, we just found out that we had so many things in common. And like, I like to play, I like to play board games. I like to hike. I like to go on adventures and travel. And I like to try new things and go to new places. And, you know, we're, he's similar in age to me. And we have a similar sense of humor. And we just found out that we have a lot in common. And plus he's so damn cute. Like, he's just, he's just cute, a little cute. I get cute aggression from looking at him. I just want to throw him every time I see him. And he, he feels, he feels the same way about me, which is pretty adorable. But that's, that's kind of how it happens. Like we met up to talk about making content. And then when we, our eyes met for the first time, we were just like, oh, I'm keeping you. So it's just, I got lucky. I got lucky with him. - So when he asked that, that first time you meet was it one of those ones where you wound up talking so much? Did you even shoot that day or was it like? - We were just meeting up to get to know each other. But we met up after work. And so it's probably like 5.36 PM. And I don't think we stayed out like walking and hanging out, getting something to eat. We were hanging out for like six or eight hours. - That's awesome. - Yeah. I mean, it's not often that you find someone you can have that much fun with, just by existing together in the same room. So I got really lucky with that one. 'Cause you know, I kind of, I kind of given up on the idea of dating anybody. 'Cause being in this industry certainly makes things a little complicated. - No. And I like to sometimes ask that because I think some, like, you know, A, like, yeah, how do you navigate that? Dating and sometimes I'm like, it can be probably tricky with fans, like people who are into this industry, like his fans too. But I'm like, I'm like, I think that is like the way to go. Both ways, like I think for fans, I'm like, talking to people in the industry or who like know it or in some capacity. 'Cause sometimes it is just hard to explain it. I know there's vanilla people who are understanding. Like, I'm not saying there's not, but it's just hard to find them. Like, it's really hard. Or if they are understanding, they're kind of like, all right, but once we're together, you're done. - Yeah. And that's true. And I think, I mean, who knows where this is gonna lead. But, you know, I guess I'm always worried that the guy will pretend he's fine with it. And really he's not. He's dying on the inside, but not to brag. But I'm a very good girlfriend. So he's pretty comfortable. - Go ahead and brag. Go ahead and brag. - Yeah, no, I just, I treat him very, very well. I'm absolutely obsessed with him. And he can tell so he doesn't feel any type of way. Other than like, he misses me when I'm on a trip. - Gotcha. Now he's, 'cause you're about five, nine, right? And how you-- - Yeah, he's like five, seven and a half-ish. - Okay. - And 125 pound. - Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome. - Yeah, he's having me train him in a gym and how's him bulk up right now, which I have only male friends. I have no female friends left for all sorts of reasons. But anyway, I've trained so many of my friends. And they've, you know, meant it's a different thing when you're putting on muscle and bulking and cutting all of that. It's just not the same as it is for a woman. Like, I have to work around my hormone schedule. They got every day of the week, every week of a month. I do not. - Right, right. - So, you know, he's just putting on muscle like crazy. I keep catching him looking at himself in a mirror, watching his delts ripple. I, I'm so jealous. - That's awesome. - I don't look like that. - That's all, okay. So he's taken to a pretty well. - Yeah, I mean, he, he's an athlete and whatever. But it's, it's fun getting to train other people. And it's also fun. Like, I have to leave in a few minutes here because I have to go see my personal trainer. - Yeah, yeah, of course. - But it's really fun that I'm getting trained. But then I am capable of training someone else that I've been doing this for like a decade, lifting heavy and all of that. So. - Okay. All right. So I know you got to get going. So my final question for you is, I know you took a break, but you know, we're in 2036 right now. What are some goals that you have? Maybe either short term or long term for you in this industry. Like is there anything that you want to do? Is there people you want to meet? Are new sessions or videos or traveling? - Traveling for sure is a big one. I would love to travel and maybe make content with different people around the country while I do that. I wanted, I had originally wanted to be in New York City, this January, this month. Literally right now, I wanted to be there. But when I was about to go by plane ticket, our dear president had said something about restarting the government shutdown in January. And so I was like, well shoot, better hold off. 'Cause you know, which is why I ended up not going this month. And now there's like this crazy storm anyway. And then I had, I sustained like this injury that is still not healing. Or I still wasn't like fully recovered from. I'm pretty good now. So I'm thinking LA March, possibly late February. And then definitely gonna hit up NYC this year and probably Miami or Orlando. Those are the goals. Those are my short term goals. It's like go to these places and see some stuff. - Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you'll kill it. You'll do great. - I usually do really well when I travel. Honestly, I'm always surprised by how many people. - I'm not. But I get why you are 'cause you're home bull and stuff. But like I'm not, trust me. The messages people have got asked me to interview you. Like, I'm not sure. - That was news to me when you said it too. I was like, okay, all right, fine. I'll take that one. - Yes, people, people. When I get done, 'cause I always like to make sure the interview is done. 'Cause then once you put it out, the people like, did you do it? Did you do it? Did you do it? So I like to make sure it's in the can. But once I met certain fans like, oh, Milla was on the show. They're gonna be asking me, when's the episode? When's the episode? When's the episode? So, yeah, which is cool. So that's awesome. But, no, whenever you wanna come back on, and I'd definitely love to ask you, but this was so great. I'd love to have you on any time. - Sure. - You know, wanna promote something or just wanna chat or whatever. This was so awesome. So I just really appreciate it. - Yeah, absolutely. I mean, feel free to think about some, maybe follow up questions you have or maybe have other people send in questions. And even if they sound awful, maybe run and buy me anyway. And we'll see if I'll answer. - Perfect. Perfect. No, no, definitely. Maybe we could set something up soon where we'll do a Q and A thing. I can put that out to people. Yeah, I got that. Yeah, so yeah, no, well, we'll email about that. Like, about when you wanna come back and do some Q and A with some fans. That'd be fun. - Okay. - Yeah. - And I know people can, so you have a clip, you have just the one clip story, there's another one. I have just one clips or sale. I have a Twitter, I have a Reddit. I have a FetLife that I've been neglecting. I've been neglecting a lot of things for months. But a girl needs a break sometimes. - Yeah, you gotta rest. You gotta recharge. You gotta rest and recharge. I know you're on clips for sale at Skoll Crush Thighs. - Yeah. - You can follow your clips. - And Reddit, I think, is Skoll Crush Thighs also. And then I'm Meela Kate, M-I-L-A-C-A-I-K-E. On Twitter, I believe. - Yes, yes, yes. And you'll see her, she says, her tag, I lift throw and wrestle men who think they're big and strong. Which always cracked me up. When I first saw, that's perfect. That's perfect. - They do think they're so big and so strong and then they get thrown. - No, I know. That's why I think it's awesome that you say that. It's great. It's so cool. But yeah. Please, if you don't follow me, because you won't be disappointed. It's awesome. Go see the clips. And when she gets to traveling, if you can see her, like go and do it because she's really cool. So this was incredible. Thank you so much, Meela. - Hey, you're very welcome. I look forward to our next chat. - Absolutely, absolutely. So for the incredible Meela cake, I'm D-Rock. Thank you guys for listening to After Hour sessions. Peace.