Mid-Season NFL Made-Up Awards w/ Nate Tice, Plus a CFB Top 12 Shakeup

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Nationwide based on Sportsbook predictions and free-to-play sports contests. Availability varies by state. It's Monday. That means Nate Tice is with us from Yahoo Sports and Football 301. He has a new draft order. His new big board, I think, is up. Is he nodding? Yes, he is nodding. Okay. Because I want to talk a little college football with our guy Nate here. But we're going to do something different. This is probably the worst 1 o'clock slate of the entire season. A lot of excitement about Green Bay and New England. But it was such an ass-kicking that it wasn't necessarily that exciting. And then last night. It was kind of fun for a bunch of different reasons. So we're going to do some NFL midterm awards slash questions on a bunch of different stuff here. But let's start with Sunday night football. Pretty simple. That first quarter, you're going, what am I going to allow myself? Like, how can I put any restraints on myself whatsoever? We're going to talk about, like, who Caleb Williams can be. Maybe that was going to be the topic on TV shows today. Like, is he going to be the best quarterback in the NFL? And then he ends up with four picks on the night. I'd say the first one was a heat check. Number two and number three were just. What the fuck are you doing? And then four is a tip ball. So take me through your kind of journey of the Bears pulling this one off against the Tampa team that looked like they were going to get run off the field there in the first 15 minutes. Yeah, I was even going to ask you opening was what was your favorite turnover on the night? Because now it's just them. But it was just what the Bucks were doing. The Baker had. At first, I was just my thoughts were, wow, the Bears have so much team speed and and offensively and defensively. But especially on offense, when Luther Burden's taking a cover zero under route to the house and it wasn't even close. No one's even touching him in the breaking tackles as well. But it was just those moments, how dialed in Caleb is, how the fact that he's pushing the ball. Oh, my goodness. Like, he's not making that crazy, stupid throws like he's this stuff is all in rhythm. And then when it's not rhythm, he's creating and it all makes sense. He's doing jump passes. It all makes sense. And then it's funny that the first interception. Came in the kind of flow of the play. It was just that he got baited by the safety and like he went for the hard throw in the red zone, which I totally understand why he ended up doing it. But he got baited. It just happens. I've talked about a few times. I feel like throughout this year that it just happens. Sometimes the NFL defenders are doing really good things. But then after that was kind of a, hey, we this is sometimes it's not always as easy as it's going to be, especially when you play a defense that can punish you that these mistakes or these inches go away. And then after that was kind of a, hey, we this is sometimes it's not always as easy as it's going to be, especially when you play a defense that can punish you that these mistakes or these inches go away. so much and i mean whether it's jeffrey simmons whether it's awesome booker who's had a lot of nice flashes throughout his career and is really coming in his own it also helps when you have another beast next to you I would see guys like Devin Bush playing fast so I think really just watching that game my biggest takeaways was oh wow the Bears have a lot of ways to win even if Caleb is when he's playing on fire it looks like how it looked like against the Seahawks when or even the Falcons and when it's not we still they still can run the ball decently and their defense now can carry and shift games as well so complete team even if a lot of stuff kind of ebbs and flows with qb discourse i really do think that was like this was more of a standout team win for the bears and maybe the other side check-in is wow we got to talk about baker this may be my other side check-in on this game as well don't go ahead oh okay all right well this is beginning of the year so i've hinted at this i think it was i lamented this after they played the bangles and then i think the vikings game uh which is the one that we had a longer discussion but it was more talking about how good the vikings defense is and really baker though since the start of last year i was willing to wave away a little bit i'll just kind of cards on the table i've never thought of baker as a tier two guy and the arbitrary kind of qb rankings i always think he's a firmly tier three maybe and sometimes tier four how sando does it um if we're just kind of talking to those discussion point here four isn't great right and that's how i feel about baker is that he wow is that though some of those stretches can be good and i understand that with how he is a confidence laden player and he is based on how he's flowing he's a streaky player but that's the thing is streaky players aren't franchise guys aren't guys it's more like hey i want the soundness of being a quarterback and when i watched him even at the beginning of this year he wasn't seeing it right the fumbles against the bangles um was one thing we talked about but even after that the vikings game the browns game missing throws tucking looking down at the pass rush and i really thought okay the offensive line isn't all there yet but still decent offensive line and now we know it's a good offensive line because we've seen how the bucks run game's been going but then he gets injured comes back from the injury has had some weird game flows the last couple weeks but now this was the game that he actually had to do something and if you looked at eye tests it looks off you have the turnovers you have missed throws there's a lot of throws he leaves inside right now squeezing the ball too hard which probably doesn't help with the thumb but then just even stats there's 33 quarterbacks right now with 100 or more attempts baker's dead last and basically all of them dead last and epa per play dead last drop x success rate dead last and throwing success rate so now i'm just scrambles and sacks dead last my low suplex stat 32nd and first downs per attempt 30th and explosive passes 33rd and sack avoidance which is one of those stats so he's dead last in that as well which kind of feel 33rd and pressure to sack rate so dead last and that as well 30th and sack rate 33rd and sack epa loss per drop back so those sacks are not only bad they're devastating and he has the highest rate of them he has a high rate and they're bad sacks and then 31st and pass rating if you're into you know missionary position stats but i do think with with baker is that it's this he is the anchor right now and the receivers are kind of been beaten up ted hearst gets benched they're they're rookie um emeka abuka has kind of been battling injuries chris godwin's definitely like 70 of his version he's still solid but this is why you pay Carry that weight he just has to be average And this fucks ecosystem can carry him with the run game and the defense and when i watch him i test and then stats bear this out as well it's he's kind of anchoring them in a bad way of just like what this offense can be and really just how he's playing right now he's just not seeing the game well and it's kind of just yeah that was really more my biggest takeaway than on top of the bears just being a very good and complete team that baker stuff like that profile you just hit us with though like that feels like it's it's so much worse than the way we talk about him um and you seem to have been like hey this is what i've been trying to tell you guys the entire time i thought when he got that elbow or excuse me when he got that helmet in the ribs like when he knew he was going to get killed he wasn't really the same the rest of the game not that he was lighting it up um but that's i think the underlying story with all of the stuff like i love two moments in this game one was on the third and seven where they needed it after tampa just tied it off of the but the lutherburton field and then the other one was on the third and seven where they needed it after tampa just tied it off of the but the lutherburton field and then the other one was on the third and seven fumble in collinsworth which is part of telling the story the story was like what will ben johnson do here because is caleb like do you want to take a shot down the field right and he didn't he didn't and that i don't know if that was ben johnson i think there was a moment or two or looking at caleb williams face where it's not like anybody's going to have fun throwing four interceptions in a game but you were kind of like does he look at him and go i don't actually want him to throw something to dunze over the middle right now to convert this side yeah yeah so they're out yeah they throw it to the outside um and then i would say maybe it's on a specific moment but it's it's the first time all season watching the bears on defense even though they've had some good defensive outings it's the first time where you're going well wait a minute even though caleb is fucking this thing up after this incredible start by the way that start against the number one statistical defense in the nfl in tampa which took even a bigger jump with the takeaways okay so if you were looking at the numbers being sorted today it's like tampa i may still like minnesota's defense better but their numbers and then i'm like caleb's gonna rip these guys apart too like this is wild like what am i gonna say back to back week see ox and then box it's like i know i'm starting to reevaluate everything i'm like am i gonna have to give this offense a nickname like just like they're doing some crazy stuff against these defenses but yeah yeah continue but that's what that was exactly what i was going through in that first quarter i was like huh i'm gonna have to regage some things because i was optimistic but now you're doing some stuff i was not expecting for the bears to be a team that you think hey it's okay like we're having a bad quarter offensively will be okay because of how the defenses look now for a couple weeks i never expected to have that thought now granted i know jeffrey simmons is going to be on the football team um so that that changed i mean you just realize like having one of these absolute d linemen who wreck games everybody else is eating off of it you know and we saw it with the bush plays we saw it with some of the other defensive linemen sweat had another play in there and you go this is fun now like this is awesome and you can just kind of see this energy that they're like well now we have to look at the bears and wonder if this is a good defense and now as we move on from the bears seven and two it's their best record since 2012 do we know who the offensive coordinator was i i do i i do i could harbor a guess uh i think he has the same last name as me or something close yeah yeah luckily that season ended great that was a great season how that one ended going ten and six again five and six and five and six and fired i actually so the lions and the vikings played in week 17 i was at pit as a ga and and so it was i think all the teams obviously they got knocked out of the playoffs at 10 what year did you leave wisconsin uh 2011 was my senior so yeah great year uh and then yeah so 2012 go to pit fall paul christ um and i'm watching that game because that's what's great when college football season ends it's like i can focus on nfl a little bit for the last few weeks um back then anyways uh so watching that game watching lions vikings play and the or uh vikings packers i believe it was actually and i think christian ponder was the quarterback for the vikings if i remember correctly um but whoever the quarterback was they couldn't throw the ball this was the agent pierce and we're just going to run the ball all the time and i might be mixing up the teams here now but he throws it was like a third and 22 and the defense runs this really safe cover to coverage and then they just make a hero throw connection and that's what lets him get to the game and ends up getting him into the playoffs because he hits this one throw one out of a million chance one out of a million like possibility here third and forever and i vividly remember it as i'm forgetting everyone's names right now but vividly remember that week 17 that's what knocked the bears out of the playoffs but sorry thank you for let me go down that lane it's the ones you lose you remember none of the ones you win we'll have your data maybe we'll just all hang it'll be like a tuesday episode or something like we've got to talk about jordan love's performance okay before we get to some of our awards and midterms here he was 17 of 18 for 335 yards just on throws to watson and golden um he's number one in average depth of target actually drake mays number two um that's an interesting stat when you start looking at like some of the quarterbacks you like and they're like how come some of the quarterbacks i like are down here because they're right next to all these quarterbacks that i hate well the quarterbacks that we love and jordan love he is at the top of this this is what it looks like when your team doesn't drop seven percent of the passes that are thrown to them right um and this is why considering how abysmal this rushing attack is and an offensive line that none of us like and yet he's getting the ball out incredibly quick it's under 2.5 um this is i just hope enough people watch this because he has been in this odd category of like he's not allowed to be with the top guys and when we put him in the second tier people are like what's wrong with you he stinks right and you're like he doesn't and even in games that he's lost well you'll send me clips of like a throw where i go who else is like sure josh allen has things that nobody else does my homes is doing things that maybe nobody else does with burrow and those two receivers it's just surgical at times but there's stuff with love that he does that i don't think anybody else does and i'm kind of glad that in the four o'clock window against a supposedly good team in new england which we may have to start suggesting is just slightly better than average but to be in that four o'clock window at their place and with the limitations that love has had all season long i'm glad that he had that kind of performance to remind others that have doubted him why so many of us love the guy absolutely it's going against yeah the patriots defense i would say is firmly at the very least average kind of like they're all in that 12 14 16 so it's called average but they do interesting stuff like they do disguise coverages they'll do some cool blitzes and going against a packers old line that you're a packers old line that's literally rotating their guards like a high school team like rotating guards throughout the game and like they have three guards then they go lincoln thomason your left guard on this series your right guard on the next series i've never seen an nfl team do that i've seen him do it in the preseason but the packers can do this because they are the green bay packers with no owner and can kind of just do whatever they want um but just any stat how you splice it you see this all the time like on twitter i'm part of this all the time i do you know my sunday night shows where it's like versus blitz versus play action versus pressure how the quarterback performed and kind of can tell a story with that no matter which one how you diced it up it was jordan love played an elite game just played an unbelievable incredible game and also it wasn't just dink and dunk rpos there's no training wheels in this offense it is a fully we are going down the triple diamond black hill and just going full speed and he's hitting every you know every little thing like he's just hitting every bomb everything everything is going perfect because even with the pressure his eyes never come downfield or come down like that's what we're talking about with baker he gets pressure and he starts looking for escape lanes jordan love is going like okay you're i feel that pressure my face my eyes are going like this i keep my head up and then i'm also have the arm like and i want to compare him to a basketball player here but it's like he has an arm that everything is available on the field like doesn't matter where the route is doesn't matter where the pressure is coming he can make that throw and the player i want to compare him to because sometimes you know i think football guys can be a little iffy with their cross sports analogies and cross sports comparisons but like bryce young always got compared to like steph curry when he was coming out and i was like that's not really the comparison guys but jordan love is more like steph curry and i why am i saying that is the range and the gravity is hey you're not you got a hand in his face he's pulling up from the logo hey like it doesn't matter like hey you're getting physical with him he is still launching a 28 footer and hitting it and you have to guard him because if you don't he's going to nail it and so it's like we have to get pressure we have to defend every blade of grass because he can hit any throw from the logo like that is just how he plays and it's really just refreshing to watch after years and years where we saw some more nickel and diming quarterbacks are throwing shorter than ever because of how defenses are playing and how top down everything is we see more rpos we see more bubbles and everything and they just are doing an old school like early aughts late 90s air coil offense where they're just saying we're running posts overs corners and we have a quarterback that can chuck it and i mean just didn't like again you can spice it however you want but like the one stat that stood out to me was because the patriots can do some cool blitzes jordan love went 10 for 10 against the blitz 146 yards one touchdown zero sacks and it's just launching these these throws that are correct it's not just man he's just chucking it up there it's like no this is he's me i thought tom brady did a great job of going like hey, look at the pre-snap that Jordan Love is doing. Like, this is pretty astute what he's doing. And that's why he's such a, not just entertaining quarterback, but he's playing quarterback, chucking the ball, being aggressive, giving his guys chances, not taking sacks, and handling the pre-snap stuff. So, like you said, I don't know. I could clip 40 different plays that he had yesterday. They were just high-end throws. And like you said, when you're talking about quarterback ranking stuff, my co-host last night, Hayden Winks, even asked me, he was like, where do you have him right now? It's like, dude, I don't know. Because now I'm starting to say things, and I'm like, is he in what I call that tier one elite category, which I only had three guys going in before the season, and then Burrow's kind of his own thing at four? But now it's like, is he five? Like, is he knocking at the door? Lamar hurt this year. He's easily up on the podium. You know, it's just one of these things where, like, this is week in, week out that he's doing it. It's not ideal circumstances around him, other than the team speed. Obviously, the two receivers that he's had that can book it, like, statistically up there, too. But it's such a fun play, just from scheme stuff, but also just excitement level. You just don't really get this with offenses too much anymore. They lit it up. Lit it up. Looked like they could have had 60 if they wanted to. Like, if they were being challenged in this game, they probably would have had 60 points. And that, it's just disgusting to attack, like, some corners that are pretty good here for New England and make them look helpless. Christian Gonzalez had Dave from hell. Christian Gonzalez is good. Like, you didn't feel it yesterday. Like, A, it was, yeah, unbelievable. They, uh. No, 30% of Love's passes traveled 20 or more air yards. And you mentioned, yeah, 12.9 average air yards. May was 12.2. 12 net. 12.0 net yards per attempt. Like, just all these stats just show just the amazing things that he was doing. And then also just the highs of those throws. Like, when you clip them one after another, it's like, holy shit. Holy shit. And one guy. A guy could have two of those, and we'd go nuts, and he had seven, eight of them. And this is, like, not just the first week that he's done this. So, yeah. No, love. Loving these receivers. Loving these receivers who are the fastest receiving groups in at least a few years now. They have 39 plays where they've reached 20 miles an hour or more. Second place is 29. Like, these receivers can book it. And, obviously, we see that. And Love can hit them, like, in stride, which is just incredible. New England probably liked this matchup, too, going in. Because they're probably thinking, like, we have the corners against the one and two. We're going to take them out of the game. We're going to have a pass rush. This O-line's a mess. They're not going to be able to run the football. So, our collective, you know, maybe we don't have, like, the top guys, but our collection of edge and defensive linemen, like, this is a good matchup for us. And it was like, nope. Shredded man coverage. We'll be right back after a quick word from our sponsors. Stell Blue Coffee's new can lattes are here. Crafted with 100% Colombian coffee, each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors, Espresso Cafe Mocha and Espresso Sweet Cream. And whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup, Stell Blue cans are for those always on the go and for those who care. Stell Blue is more than just great coffee. It's about giving back. I named the brand after my rescue dog, Stella, who inspired our mission to help more dogs find their forever homes. Every purchase supports animal rescue organizations. So, when you drink Stell Blue, you're not just fueling your day, you're saving a dog's life. Try the new cans today. Taste the difference and make a difference. All new Stell Blue coffee can lattes is now available at stellbluecoffee.com or subscribe on Amazon for 10% off. Let's take a look at this. I've got a bunch of awards, little NFL midterm for us here. Let's just run through it. Okay, give me, you know what, I'll start. I was wrong. All right, I was wrong about the Rams. I thought they were going to be overwhelming and I'm not alone on this thing. They were the preseason favorite in a big way, but it's still bad. And they've won three games in a row and people are kind of like talking about them. And again, I go, I'll tell you, like these games that they've won, they've been underwhelming to me. Even yesterday against Washington, it's like Stafford, this is probably the toughest year that he's had there since I think like the second year that he was, well, he's banged up in 22. He played like nine games. So the profile matches that. He already has more receptions this year than he did last year. They were terrible on third down again. I do think defense is going to be, Garrett comes back, they're like, okay, this is what this is supposed to look like. There was a pairing where they had Donald and Garrett on the same side that led to, that you're like, okay, that looks horrifying. Even in maybe a lesser version, Aaron Donald after a couple of years off, the defense statistically is still really good. Like they're going to be a good defense, but now considering new injuries on top of everything else, like the offense were midway through this and I never expected, even if it was going to be the NFL way of like correcting you or surprising you and going, oh, how did that happen? This offense is really just looked like they're searching for something. And they can't find it. And I didn't expect it to look like that. You know, they lose the first game. I was like, this isn't that big of a deal. And now I'm kind of like, even if they were to sneak into the playoffs, we probably like these NFC North teams, every single one of them better than them. Maybe, you know, maybe not when we do the NFC North rankings, which would be a little interesting. I mean, the other, all the NFC North teams, even with the Vikings offense, they're always a little more exciting. Like it feels like Rams games are a slog. Yesterday it was. It was, wasn't it? It's like the classic at the end where you're going, are they going to find a way to lose this one? As opposed to, we talked about this when the, the Jaguars stomped on the Colts were like, yeah, you know, it's whoever they, yeah, they beat the Colts. Good. Like the good teams should make the lesser teams and the commanders are not a good team this year. Like they're a mess. They should stomp them. Even with Devante Adams out, even with some other injuries that you have on, on the defense and just really the team and everything. It's like, you still have to, you still have enough firepower. The Rams run game is still statistically one of the best run games of the new millennium. Like it is a top 20 run game that we have seen in the last 25 years. And, but the passing game, it just feels okay. Go to Puka. Let's get into 13 personnel. Let's go to Puka and get them in the slot. Do some cool stuff there. But it's a lot of these kind of, it's not nickel and diming. It's diming and quartering. You know, it's just a little bit further, but it just feels off. It feels tight. It doesn't just feel like it has a flow to it. There's a way too much. There's a way too much stuff going to running backs in this run game or in this past game as well, which, you know, quorum is doing some nice stuff too, but you know, there's just too much of that as opposed to other guys getting involved. But right now, like you're even saying is that they have right now, next gen stats has them at a 45% chance to make the playoffs. So we're halfway through the season. They're a coin flip to make the playoffs. Can you imagine two months ago thinking that, like even if I thought the NFL has a way of doing this, like always there, no one can ever get too high player team unit, whatever. A coin flip through week nine with this team and what they had, I would not have expected that. And they have a doozy of a schedule remaining Cardinals, who they did lose to the schedule. Packers, Chiefs, 49ers at 49ers, Cowboys, Seahawks, Bucks, Seahawks. Those are all playoff teams. Technically, like, I mean, the Cowboys, whatever, they are also in this kind of middle of the ground too, but man, that's, that's a lot of, that's a lot of teams with not a lot of losses that they're about to play. That's, and they have to win every game. They have no leeway now. And they're playing teams that if we want to get into wildcard, because it looks like the 49ers are going to run away with it. They have the Packers. So that's a wildcard spot. Seahawks, wildcard, Cowboys, wildcard, Bucks, probably with the South, whatever. So they have all these games matter. They cannot stub their foot again. Otherwise they start losing tiebreakers. So they are not a bad team, but they, they're, they're just more just like pretty good. And that's just not what we expected. Now, Puka might be, he might be hurt. So they, so yesterday Puka ran 43 routes. The other Rams receivers combined ran 42. He ran more routes than the rest of the receivers ran combined. And now he might be hurt. So what is their passing attack look like? And if they don't have him to get them out of like those plays where you just know, Hey, that you already know, you can see it in your head, a third and seven. Okay. We're looking for Puka. We're trying to get this traffic in front of them. He's going to run behind it and, you know, then catch it at the sticks and run like a linebacker into the defenders. And he's going to convert. I mean, he plays such a physical style of receiver. It's ridiculous. The collisions with him. I mean, he seems to win these all the time, but you just go, can you really do this for four months? Then hope he's still like what version of him is even close to like, if there's no a hundred percent with him, even, even as you gear up for the playoffs, there's just the guy's probably playing her every single week. And then he gets hurt in this game. All right. What do you got? That's wrong. Oh boy. We're going to start. I think everything involved with the chargers. I definitely got wrong because I thought this often, this could be a top 10 offense. I thought this team could make the playoffs even with a tough schedule and not fully trusting the defense. Cause I just thought the offense and Justin Herbert, we're about to just launch it, baby. And we're going to see some awesome stuff. Could not be more wrong. And like you with the Rams, I'm not alone. Thankfully. I wasn't like out over my skis, but I was just like, Oh yeah, this could be exciting. But it is obvious that there's just underlying issues with the team and sense from ownership to team structured building Harbaugh and the lack of details. I think that's been really, I would say so surprising, but almost a little bit disappointing to me is just the lack of details that this team shows. And you would think just a Harbaugh team, just all this, but it's like, all right, it has me kind of revisiting previous takes. I've always had. So them full stop, just everything involved with that franchise. And I wouldn't say with the Herbert stuff, like I know he's a battleground player and we might talk about him, other guys in a little bit. But even with just him, it's, it went from like, yeah, other guys are messing up and he's kind of now compounding some issues. And now, he's just full blown making the mistakes on top all the other guys kind of stubbing their foot or just totally botching stuff they're a mess so them just completely i thought they could be a fun offense 10 and 7 type team wild card team and they are might have the number one pick which is just that's the thing it's just it's not just like oh man they went 7 and 10 6 and 11 7 8 9 okay didn't make it oh well it's like no they're they haven't won a game it's what if you have told me that that's just unbelievable with herbert being healthy relatively i love the mike mcdaniels the box move because it's clearly something he doesn't want to do if at the beginning of the year he's like i want to be on the sidelines of call plays like i want to be able to communicate i want to be able to do all these different things you're like okay this is going really bad can you just go up there so it looks like we did something different this time it's like yeah so you want me to do the thing that i i like even less than what i prefer that hasn't been working so yeah this is a solution but like we always need to address these things publicly to be like okay well hey you know we got mike up there we're moving the box that's yeah yeah that's the way they describe it on the broadcast you're like well then why is anyone ever on the sideline right it's like oh you know he's up there he's got a better view like no it is it is pretty calm in the box compared to the sideline so yeah no it's so fun i mean they uh then the calvary snacks parker with the oh snacks wise jerry jones makes the coach's box too nice for the opposing team they have like a full they caterers up there with like a full buffet you know like at the oakland coliseum it was like all right you can maybe get like two bags of lays and a mountain dew you know like no it hit and a jerry world full it's a sweet it's smart you should have like turkey sandwiches in there like warm turkey sandwiches just stopping yeah just full thanksgiving spread for everybody up there like what down is it like i don't know yeah i mean the reds who gets this ball in half licking your fingers um no i'm not going to come down and say i'm not going to come down and say i'm not going to half i think i'm good up here guys that's the pain of the ass being in the box is you have to sprint on down like with a you get the security and you're running through fans fans are chirping at you if you're in college it's even worse and then you get to halftime you're there for like 10 minutes you're like okay here's the two changes all right we'll talk once we get back in the box and you have to sprint right back up and like yeah so i think that's why most coaches don't want to do it because it is annoying okay i want some credit for i thought too many people were betting favorites to win the afc you're dragging your feet on that right and part of it was schedule and yes you could say oh cool so you're picking on them when lamar hasn't been healthy that's fine but there are assumptions about this offensive line there is assumptions about this defense that i just thought like why are why is everyone just looking at this team as like this complete team and so sure you've got me on the lamar thing that seems a little unfair but this defense is probably in the bottom third and a lot of different stuff um the offensive line the pass stuff like at best it's average at worst it's kind of in that bottom third there's just this is a very incomplete football team and all the other facets around lamar's availability and i think they're an average team and it for whatever reason it was like lamar somehow got everybody talking about like well if the o-line can do this okay but that's not a certainty and if the defense does this and if the corners on the other side do this and then it's like if they find some sort of pass rush with trey hendrickson in the mix and all these and you're just going like you guys are what afc favor what nfc favorite i could just say a conference favorite has ever had that many question marks in august and yet we're just going yeah it's it's ten and a half weeks look and to be fair it wasn't like the rams and everybody else the way the ravens were presented but i just felt like there was again i use this term all the time a lot of rounding up with the ravens personnel yeah no i i when i was one of the first shows we did you we even talked about that just like they had a weird win total how high it was because it wasn't weren't they that they had the highest win total in the afc or second highest one of those had to have been if they were the betting odds yeah i mean and that's yeah that seemed i did have some optimism after the first couple weeks but then it was like okay but then you look back and that's what's nice as the season goes along as we're going to talk about too it's like which wins or losses seem better it's like i with the cowboys win i was like okay i can see this kind of working everything but then i think that ravens defense i maybe was like okay mentor is really good he can get this defense up up up and running be a top 10 unit all that and like you said it's decidedly average uh against the run average against the past not impactful like that's the thing sometimes it's almost worse to be average and just not create those big plays on defense too we're just gonna take it on the chin you know and then not create tv pills not create hey bend up but don't break but it's like yeah but can you break them every once in a while like just create plays on defense so i think that's really for me it's like offense is just incomplete also i was worried about more i like zay flowers but the auxiliary pass catchers around him it's like the ongoing conversation with the ravens like also reinvesting in mark andrews as opposed to isaiah likely like the ravens have some weird team building decisions over the last couple years that more like the broader macro view i'm starting to kind of squint at some things that they're doing and now they got the lamar conundrum coming up uh probably a month or two to 85 plus million on the cap there's a very aggressive raven segment saying did the window already close and we have it admitted it yet and it was a chapter ended for sure so yeah this is the new chapter began with lamar okay what do you got um i have one that's kind of in the middle so i want to get out of the way but then to get to my real one but packers defense i do want to say i was wrong about but then i was early right about uh and re-evaluating my previous wrong but i wanted to give jonathan gannon that defense some shine because before the season i'm like the packers can't win look at the season come back to week 10 yeah i like lucas van ness but yada yada but gannon's got the goods and their young defenders all leveled up uh evan williams of course is getting the shard but ballward lucas van ness all these guys the williams had the hit yesterday right yeah he had the hit he had the pick he's he's he said he had to play on the sideline which is why we maybe i felt like two of the plays are incredible defensive plays on the may picks so we're not gonna i'm not gonna make the schedule yeah even though he's firmly every stat you look at the top five quarterback ever but i'm not saying he is but i mean he started his first three seasons it's like a top five start that we've ever seen in our lives but everyone wants to bring up like oh he's worse against good defenses yeah no shit you know who's worse against all good defenses every quarterback that's ever lived well you know what the other one i love because you said this because it was jacksonville and it was like hey you know the thursday game right it's like short week yeah then you go baltimore's sucks right now okay especially when you're factoring like what's going to happen here and they get stomped again in jacksonville fashion which you know they've done this a few times this year and when the good team loses on the short week everyone just goes wow you know it's a short week it's like the good team should have a massive advantage on the short week because they already know what works and what they want to be yes and the bad team should be way more screwed on the short week because they're still searching for it and they have even less time to try to figure it out so they're still searching for it and they have even less time to try to figure it out so every time a good team loses on a short week it's met with this shrug kind of like hey short week like you know how that goes we need to change that we need to change that so that people can't use it as an out because the better team should have a massive advantage on the short week rant over no i and i weigh thursday night games so low like when i'm evaluating everything it's kind of a throw not total throwout game but they usually i kind of weigh i'm way less because of just the no i and i weigh thursday night games so low like when i'm evaluating everything it's kind of a real game or a real full week of scheduling and stuff but that that's why i crack up about the may stuff is just like he's obviously good have you looked looked at everybody oh this was the little stat actually i had for this um patriots receivers have forced three missed tackles this entire season for 18 yards uh 3.2 percent rate of missed missed tackles forces the lowest on record since at least 2018 for comparison the bangles receivers just receivers have forced 29 missed tackles this year for 208 yards the bears have forced 28 missed tackles this year for 208 yards so again speaking that team speed that they have but back to the packers defense real quick i know we're supposed to go with something uh maybe got right too but again jonathan games got the goods their players have all leveled up 12 different defenders had a pressure yesterday a dozen 12 there's 11 players on the field 12 had a pressure and six different players had a quick pressure so it's under two and a half seconds and they had eight unblocked pressures which is like a scheme stat so packers defense they have the goods there's been some defense these top end defenses are kind of the story of the season for me um but no getting to something i was quasi right because you know we're always we're always kind of wrong too um i would say overall jaguars optimism was maybe it was something i got right before this season because i thought this team i thought i was high on the texans too so if you want to get into something wrong but the jaguars i said was maybe they're a team that's even better for the playoffs and because of their game planning on offense and defense and i think they're going to be a good team and i think they're going to be a good team and i think trevor was going to have a good season this season i think he's on the podium right now for mvp probably him burrow um love might be up there too and josh allen that's kind of like my four in my head right now and jsn uh yeah yeah i gotta keep that keep banging that drum uh but i think overall jaguars optimism because i i love this coaching staff on both sides of the ball i think trevor's doing a lot of great stuff but i think this has been even better than what i thought i thought texans might win the division but the jaguars make a run in the playoffs that was kind of my preseason take that the Jaguars might be the second best team in the AFC even without winning the division i think now they're the best team uh maybe the best team in the nfl so jaguar's optimism is something i i got right uh even if i quasi it a little bit got it wrong in some ways okay i like that one and they trade for jesse bates i have a yes right uh i have a jacksonville stat that uh comes up a little bit later when we do some denver stuff all right best win of the season everyone's gonna hate that like i think chicago at seattle was a statement like look at number one for me that's number one yep i mean just team win just like the dominant team win so that's kind of maybe it's just again recency bias sorry to cut you off but yeah no you were excited about it and i too was excited about that because we were talking about it before that game you're like all right i guess i'm just kind of defaulting to hey that place is brutal we just saw what they had done to kansas city and even though you know at that point and like look the interceptions last night from caleb wasn't a great part of it like if you're sitting there somebody who can walk didn't watch a game before like this guy might end up being like the best quarterback in the league be like how come he keeps like not getting his next throwaway i think went into row 12 by the way uh never again i i'm debating my vote for bills at rams in the monday night football shootout but because the rams aren't what we thought the rams are going to be i think you have to just focus in on watching that game and what it took to pull it out and then buffalo going to la and stafford having that moment where he's like because he missed the throw into the end zone then he gets the touchdown and it's like no like josh allen who got off to a bad start in that game and now it's just nothing is working except for you just it's all on each guy that is dropping back each guy's but it's like quarterback versus quarterback in that game so that was on the list here and i think jacksonville going to new england or that was yeah that was at new england that was 35-6 in jacksonville oh that was in jacktown yeah no but that that i had two jaguars once i said jaguars at bangles in week four was also a really impressive win and then yeah the jaguars patriots won as far as team dominance um yeah that's those were a couple of ones up there i had also lions packers week eight um just again team win how that one felt what we're kind of feeling about the packers now and then even uh packers cowboys week six uh again team win how that one fell ass kicking too like ass kicking looked like they did some that was the first time to maybe a bit like the bears last night defensively being like can they rely on this defense here in a game where the offense isn't working out that's kind of how i felt with how well of a job they did against dac and confusing him and then dac even admitting afterwards like i just kind of wasn't seeing not like him yeah i know it's not like anybody his thing is like dicing up crazy defenses that's his thing and they kind of just went reverse reverse like they they reversed a figure four on him like they he had no shot in that game so yeah i kind of i think how i took this question and maybe in the second part of it is that which one did i have me re-evaluating the team in a good way going like i like you i think you're good but now i'm like like the packers i'm like oh you're flawed i like your defense but we'll see you go against a guy that can do some blitz or can dice up blitzes and a good old line and we'll see your offense like can they put and it was just like afterwards i'm like okay i think the packers are okay maybe a playoff team to like oh no like you can make some more noise for the second half of the season so that's kind of like how i kind of took this like broncos rams week three was also one of those weird ones rant too bad the rams record kind of i now i know how ap voters feel or college football playoff voters feel it's like how do you gauge ohio state wins when the quarterback gets hurt like that's how the rams feel for me it's like oh man before the season that's a great win now it's more like yeah decent win well that was also some officiating stuff in that ram that was um a little all right so i think we're on the same page we're gonna see chicago at seattle yeah to do it there against that defense and it was a great win for the rams so i think that's a great win for the rams it wasn't like kayla it was like a right decision game as opposed to kayla putting on the cape and everything else all right worst loss i feel like i have arizona in both of them so i'm in both of mine too is it cowboys cardinals and then cardinals rams i think it's rams losing to arizona i think that's the worst single loss because then you at that point went okay the ram schedule is going to get easier for this stretch before it gets really hard which you've already covered they're going to have to go four and oh through this whole thing and then they lose to them in that game and you go uh all right now the dallas one was like funnier if you hate dallas yeah but dallas isn't that good okay breaking news struggle with the colts who've given up on the season i mean dallas is kind of lucky there was other stuff going on i can't imagine what like local like after a win that's probably one of the most negative talk radio days ever because of what it took to beat the colts for dallas so the arizona loss for the rams even though not as funny to like point your finger at dallas that way because just again and also the history with arizona which is hilarious too i just think yeah that was a the la one is like okay maybe it's not happening like a defining loss where you go you have to stop liking this team regaging regaging the team right in the negative way that's i that's why i had them at number one that lost uh because it was just it was one of those where it's also how they lost two then it was to five field goals five or six field goals as well which is always just a hilarious kind of game to lose yeah it was like a bad red zone like what are they like what are they doing the red zone like oh they never got in and they're like yeah and they still won yep and which is like in theory you should be fine ramps okay we'll just score touchdowns against this defense that we should have their number against as well so no that again regaging how i feel about the team i would even throw in the texans at the colts because it went from like for me for the texans like oh here they go they're about to go on a run because they're not playing a superpower quarterback what what are you guys doing like put them away put put them away and that was again regaged how i felt about the texans after that loss as opposed to the previous losses they had and then a sneaky one is seox at commanders because that was just one of those where it was like now and i was with marcus mariotta um and just yeah it was it kind of got lost in the shuffle because darrell had just come back yeah and then he was bad he was like really bad i think that was one of those games like nobody watched didn't feel like anybody talked about it ever because it was sloppy it was a mess yep pick sixes just turnovers just random big plays to end the game yeah i know that one kind of got lost in the wayside but knowing what i know about the commanders now it was like i kind of felt that way anyways i was pretty heavy on there if we're talking about takes that we got right that was another one was fading the commanders uh but that's another one where it's like man seahawks man you should be stifling them like they shouldn't be scoring 13 points what are they doing hanging 30 on you in that game okay uh i think we covered it on that one all right this is the truman show award which we would look at a team at this point and be like this feels fake and i'm going to tell you i thought i was going to write down pittsburgh and there are things that pittsburgh is doing that are better and i'm not going to round up aaron rogers and go because they're winning they're winning with defense again it's a top 10 defense i think by all accounts and when i looked at warren's numbers he's third in success rate as a running back right now so you factor in that with some of the past catching options they have and again i'm going to prevent myself because i think a lot of people would go like and then aaron rogers you know like he's gotten a little bit better uh he technically probably has gotten better if you wanted to do a four-week slice versus a four-week slice with all this hand so that's why it feels like he got better because it's for 28 throws as opposed to 48 throws that's what we were talking about that in the beginning of the year being like this can't possibly be the recipe that's like all right you're gonna have 45 attempts with this but they're running the ball they're playing defense i take them more seriously and so therefore they're not my selection for the truman show denver has now won 16 straight one score games okay they have the best record over the last two years i think it's 19 and 5 same number as jacksonville or it might be 20 and 5 i'm not sure it could be 19 or 6 and 25 whatever so if you start at the beginning of 25 to now jacksonville and denver have the same record it's hilarious though because the point differential is double what jacksonville has done over that time than when denver is done which gets back to the one score game things i watched the entire game yesterday against carolina and aside bryce young who i started kind of thinking like you can't pay him you can't give him that big contract uh yesterday's game makes it more difficult to have that kind of certainty because i thought he was terrific um missing both tackles they're missing two corners they're missing two of their best edge guys and they're in it and of course denver pulls it off even with a bad pitch on a fumble because you know their defense which i like i know statistically i should like it a little less i don't care there's just so much personnel on this denver team that i really like that i don't care that their stats are behind some other defenses i like less than them but i'm going to ask this is bo nicks tim tebow does it keep happening every fucking week and you just have to kind of accept it but you have to maintain your position that you're like there's no way because i'll never forget even the playoff game with tebow i'll never forget where i was i was in new orleans we were prepping up we were doing some sort of thing and um scott and i were doing a show down in new orleans and i'm like pittsburgh gonna kill these guys like they're not gonna like this is gonna be the tebow wake-up call and then he hits that one big play um to thomas and they pull that game out i'm like how did they beat the steelers in the playoff so every time i'm like how did they beat the steelers in the playoff so every time i'm like okay well this is gonna be over this is gonna be over denver's doing it to me again for two straight years i just don't i don't i don't know what to do other than just maybe stop talking about it for a little bit which is what you had to do with tebow you just had to come to work on monday he'd do it again you knew it wasn't gonna work and you just went okay yep yeah he's got something it's not quantifiable don't know what it is raises all boats whatever but like just wins yeah can't name one throw but that's the thing is they get the one highlight throw that everyone latches on to like we talked about last week it was like nixon thomas throw was a slant and there was like zero coverage behind it yeah yeah they just took it to the house because they the safeties were playing so low because the new tebow couldn't throw the ball and so that's the repercussions of what happens when the defense doesn't respect the quarterback uh i i have broken down that game somewhere on twitter i have film clips from tebow in that game and i think i broke down to every single one of his passes it's worse than you remember it's like like everything you thought how bad he was was at quarterback it's worse when you watch it on film and actually like see the down to down this but um also that whole tebow 2011 again bringing up my dad with the bears memories this was still when martz was the oc uh they played at denver and barber marion barber didn't go out of bounds or he went out that's right he's supposed to run the clock and then tebow had this one throw against a prime bears defense one throw that was when the bears defense was getting all these turnovers gets the one throw boom they win the game and then that was like right in the thick of tebow mania mania and it was just like oh it was a night game i think it was a later game yeah i remember watching it and going this is because i was so frustrated because that's when i was doing it every day and i'd have to come back into work with scott i can imagine he did it again i don't know what to do look bonix is better than tebow so we can stop with that but they're my they're my truman show award for i know what the record is i know what they keep doing it just doesn't and like this isn't exactly news to anybody that's been listening to me the broncos won 13 to 10 and they scored 10 points in the fourth quarter and then kicked the field going over time to win that game tebow went 21 to 40 five sacks oh god just sorry you've now jogged two memories that i've had buried deep down no the nick the next thing too or at least just the broncos it's at least maybe pound the drum for rookie of the year maybe because i got some maybe some preseason tickets on that but no offensive rookie of the year uh but no like you can see the juice that he has pat bryant uh we've talked about pat bryant before he had a great block on the jonah coleman touchdown and then has the touchdown as well um another little dirty work guy as jay waldo gets hurt and i agree with their defense it's like statistically they're like above average ish but i feel like i've been trying to describe it's like maybe they're not that elite like we've talked about like you know seahawks or something like that but i feel like they're not that elite but they're good but there's still a needle moving unit because they have a lot of team speed especially when ps2 is out there um ps2 it's like every time he's out there it's like oh yeah you're awesome uh but the sorry sometimes it's the thing it's like out of sight out of mind and then you watch him you're like oh you just snuffed out tetra mcmillan then what did ps2 do um he had oh against t-mac against tetra mcmillan who is who is a good receiver uh they had 10 101 snaps two targets one reception four yards that was the four yard red zone touchdown which was more of a design than ps2 losing and like t-mac's a tough guard um but this is something i noticed too this was just the quirk of this game is todd wash um is now the defense coordinator for the panthers and he is because they they fired evero and again talk about move the guy up to the booth then you fire him or you bring in the old vet to help out you know the defensive calling or play calling offensive play calling maybe the chargers have to look into that next maybe jack harbaugh someone come off the street you know call him out um todd wash is a legion of boom seahawks guy and this was what led to the big passing boom in 2010s is not only just quarterbacks got better and some rule change stuff is that every defense thought that they could recreate the seahawks without earl thomas without richard sherman without cam chancellor without seven pass rushers that can all get 10 sacks without bobby wagner without bruce ervin they're like nope we're gonna run cover three every fucking snap and you're gonna know that we're in cover three every snap and we're just gonna beat you and it turns out when you don't have a whole bunch of hall of famers on your defense it's not easy to run the same coverage every snap and telegraph it todd wash did not learn that lesson so legion of boom gus bradley guy they ran cover three on almost every single snap and what okay okay some teams do that running well cover two cover six seahawks run a bunch of cover six every snap they disguise it though but the panthers just lined up in cover three and telegraphed that they're going to be in cover three and sure enough bo nicks against cover three 17 of 22 181 yards one touchdown 116 qb rating and then went against too high which was okay here's the change up he had 11 attempts he went five of 11 for 35 yards and one pick so it's like make him play quarterback because cover three is very simple for quarterbacks old school cover three like washes running spot drop hey if it's outside like guys gonna be off right throw hitters throw stops throw out routes if there's no disguise or inverting of the look rules it's very easy for quarterbacks and it felt easy for nicks so that was just an aside an observation wow because that was sorry yeah todd wash man sorry so broncos fans this is like so i apparently the only reason we won is because carolina made it super easy for our quarterbacks those guys don't seem to like all the time all right what do you got for yours well other than that pretty good um sorry i gotta scroll down to my might even note on this um fake team and i feel kind of mean because i don't think they're bad it's not a great giant the giants a little bit i looked at it i kicked it around and it's just like they're not bad where it's like they can't keep getting away with this but they're not good and it's so that's why it's they're like a blow average team and this happens every year usually it's in the nfc south the team makes the playoffs and they shouldn't like in a normal year in a normal division but you know the defense is coming along and they're well coached so it's like even though i'm giving them the truman award i'm trying to you know compliment sandwich this uh the offense is just like they have no run game they're in the saquon not the saquon market the jonathan taylor sweepstakes for a reason um even if cam scataboo is on 14 advertisements that i just can't unsee him it's like the run game is firmly not good um the old line's got some nice pieces though like i like francis malinoa andrew thomas when he's healthy like they have some pieces but this team is 28th and dvoa on offense 19th and epa 25th and suplex so i'm right in the middle there the defense is better coached but it's not like a good team and then on top of it you you saw mccarthy turn into a pumpkin maybe a bruised pumpkin because that looked like it sucked i mean that looked like broken ribs oh it's a hip pointer that's what came out today oh well then that's good yeah yeah that's why it looks so bad though when he went to stretch because when you have that hip pointer and you go to stretch it's like the worst you feel like your leg's gonna fall off but then it's like okay but it goes away it's awesome like a knife's grinding into you yeah okay it's yeah that's the passing game is not great even if um you know malik neighbors is a star uh you know they had the near miss in the end zone malachi fields is a very having a really nice rookie year and they are about arvel reese so they have exciting part everything like giant this is hard for me because it's like giants fans this is going as great as you hope like it's like hey there's proof of concept of what we're doing under this regime both sides are playing well and they're well coached you just have running back issues and quarterback issues like mccarthy turned into a pumpkin so it is what it is but they're the team i can't really just buy into all right let's run yeah no kidding i mean they have the same point differential as dallas and it's plus 10 as is there a game behind him all right let's rip through these a little quicker here i got chase young award which is you were supposed to be good you weren't good and then now when he makes plays it's like well this guy was a top pick and you go dude this took a very long time i don't even know that i could come up with anybody i don't even know that i could come up with anybody i don't even know that where it felt like it took that long to be this kind of difference maker did you have anybody high no it's it's tough um i thought about going with rome with dunzey because i loved him okay and it wasn't great and i know the stats aren't even great and he got his first touchdown last night but he is playing like the guy that i saw at washington now okay and i don't have numbers that can back that i can just tell you i've watched so many bears games that i had times in the past the first couple years like is he not gonna be good like he was a motherfucker at wide receiver at washington like that's what i like it was the jamar chase argument about justin jefferson's like i understand jefferson runs all the better routes i just think there's this shit to chase where i'm like i'm going to beat you um and jefferson beats you with routes and if you prefer jefferson over chase that's totally fine i don't have that argument with anybody to change it now well i'm just saying like rome reminded me of that kind of stuff like this guy's kind of a beast and i think he has more of these like kind of beast moments as a receiver you could go greg russo but i'm going to keep it at dunzey even though there's no way yeah russo's good i mean he had a good year last year though too but he was a top pick not like top pick like chase but he was a first rounder and you're kind of like when is this going to click for him and he looks like a completely different guy yeah if you want to say it's the last two years fine but i think this is the best year that he's had and it's been a little while he no he's been incredible because now he also was one of those players that he's been on for a long time and now he's finishing and that's why you kind of buy into pressure numbers and say like hey with a little more luck with maybe some circumstances around him yada yada home i his career has just been so strange from the 49ers stop goes to the saints on a buy low deal and really had decent market but not like crazy market and there's some of that too like where i thought he could have just been such a nice mercenary he's had weeks i've never noticed him yeah never noticed him and then when he went to the niners you're like okay well they're good they're a smart for an office and they're putting them there and they're like hey why did this go wrong and then he would have niners games where i was like oh that's right he's playing today i know which is usually you notice the guys usually you notice those pass rushers uh every other snap or every other third down where you're getting terrified by him no i it's real it's like yeah he's playing like an all pro this year um saints defense is all helps when you play shudder uh the shudder took a sack on a screen that he didn't know it was a screen he just dropped back like it was a normal play you don't want to know he had a top one yeah come up later um so if you want mine on this maybe this was kind of low-hanging fruit but isn't trevor lawrence the award winner for this number one pick um i i've always been a trevor guy so kind of i kind of saw a lot of underlying stuff but it felt like no one was kind of really ever saying like i mean i had him this was kind of it's more of like an inside joke with me and my friends but i had him at like number nine last year on the qb ranking and you would have thought i try to kill somebody like people are like you think he's good like unbelievable but now it's a little bit more now i'm not high enough on apparently right i said yeah he's knocking on the door as a top five guy and people like he's better than that now you know just how it always goes sways would you rather have lawrence or love probably love i probably love because he just plays a style that's just a little more after my heart like trevor is just trevor's playing like unbelievable but love just plays how i like how my quarterbacks to play uh god some of my co-hosts last night goes next three years would you rather have love or may and that was even a tougher one for me because i didn't know i still don't know how to answer it like if you're talking about the next three years because just what love's doing even though may's just with the circumstances he's got but yeah that's a longer that's an off-season topic uh but trevor and then maybe if you want to get into i had some other players here uh dionte banks for the giants i kind of saved him because he had a good rookie year totally fell off giants were ready to basically trade him release him for trade him like one of those like you see him traded for a sixth seventh round swap one of those just get him off the roster type of trades and then the new staff has gotten him going at corner and turning into like he's tapping back into his talent so i wanted to give him a little shout out and then lucas van des i already mentioned him before but for the packers where it's like finally he's putting it together we're opposing teams are game planning for van des and going like we're sliding to him we're chip helping on van des kind of underrated right now still but he is really taking a huge leap forward and it's just taking some time injuries all that he's going to be a great player and he's going to be a great player and he's going to be a great he's always a kind of a projecty guy but his nickname is freaking hercules and now he is looking like that right now where he's actually a needle moving player and that's before parsons comes back which is just insane state of the union so this award goes to whoever it is at the quarterback position where we have to have a referendum on them every single week legacy updates the entire time i just don't know how it's anyone other than dac it's isn't he the namesake for this like he is like he may not be eligible for this but he's going to be a great player anymore and he may this doesn't sound like a positive may luck out and not have to have a playoff game where this will be the referendum but if dac gets in if they sneak in with this defense because of the division which is still a very likely scenario and they get smoked and this is how stupid it is because i even read sandoz piece this morning which i do every monday morning and there was like another nfl guy that was talking about josh allen in the playoffs going well you know he can get a little weird in the playoffs you're like oh my god folks like i'm sorry he fumbled against fucking denver i'm sorry he's throwing a brandon cooks like this this is so ridiculous like and so i just think dac this is so stupid but for just like clearly dallas wants to win the division kind of a playoff so i i'm not saying that they shouldn't want those things but if they get in with this team and get knocked out by a wildcard game and he has like a quarter because they're like they're down 10 it it will be a who is dac prescott when i think dac is like a firm six to ten guy yeah that's where that's where i am i call i always call him the icy belt holder you know he's the guy that's above you know the guys above him are the main eventers is that the intercontinental yeah yeah intercontinental i know sorry too many wrestling references it's just how my but i would turn that i used to love it like ricky dragon steamboat would have that belt a lot because they were like we're never giving them the we're never giving them like honky tonk man was the guy that had it forever it's it's chris jericho's one at the most so that kind of like i no longer care with chris jericho no but we're good we got it yeah yep no more wrestling uh no uh with rome so i know this is like you want to see my pet turtle now uh no that's how i feel sometimes like wrestling four games football it's all i got but romo went through this too it was just with the cowboys quarterback it was like he went through a single week so it was just one of those where it was just like isn't it exhausting though like once you get like second team all pro usually it's like okay we're good we know he won a playoff game against the bucks because that was the question too um i know but he does seem like the namesake for this i was gonna say stroud has kind of turned into this but you know he kind of gets in a lesser market uh because now all of a sudden he's playing well now no one's calling from his head and then online purdy can be kind of like this like how good is brock purdy like is he an elite guy that's a shanahan the offense yeah so purdy is kind of like this he's a battleground player okay uh just apparently this now well i don't know i i thought about putting caleb in there a little bit hell i thought there was like a week earlier this season where i was like are we doing this with burrow again where you had like a high interception game and you're going and i'm not even talking about the tennessee one i think there was another game in there and then maybe it was the baltimore first half all right moving on the justin fields media support award that is for the player that has the media support when you're like ah what's going on here i mean it feels like shador no one no one can take it from shador i've read today that shador was really good yesterday i did not see that no no he wasn't he was very bad he's always been nothing but very bad i can't believe we keep doing this so you got more run that he should have gotten is there anyone even eligible for this well baker kind of gets it but that's more just like uh like he kind of gets the media bump like you know like a lot of like hey he's he's competitive hey you know there's a lot of narrative swell with baker jg mccarthy's kind of got a little bit but a random one i want to throw out here garrett wilson for the jets receiver good player do not get me wrong but if you say he's anything but like okay he could get traded oh he's not an elite guy jets fans think you're just saying he's awful he's the worst player ever like garrett wilson's got a lot of shooters out there so that's one i just want to throw randomly out there is garrett wilson it gets a lot of like like it's not weird but he's got a lot of social media support even though he's maybe not one of those elite receivers though but no when the guard ran into shador it was because shooter that's where you can see the guys that have been in the shotgun their whole career going under center and it's not like shooter's never taken under center snap but like how much it's a rep thing because the center was reaching he didn't get the he gets a snap into his stomach the guards pulling into him like it's just a total mess and that's where you show kind of like lack of reps and lack of kind of details too but yeah no he has not ever played good really okay uh this is called the shalisa painter award for the biggest overreaction you may not remember that name but she's the official that threw a fan out of his courtside seat um where he threw the basketball like he gave it just a firm two-hand chest past week right came out a little hot and she's a player so she tapped it down no problem then she kind of looked at him and then she had she's like he's got to leave luca who treats the officials worse than any fucking player in the nba turned into like mr i've got the officials back here and he was going at the fans like what are you doing because luca was just like oh cool there's another sort of like verbal confrontation i can have with somebody it's like all right well i'll just go with this guy and i've got her back she had the the fan removed from the game uh that to me was a big overreaction and by the way we've seen it from you know joe and the guys in the past we could see those guys get a little little spicy there but um i'm gonna i'm gonna blame myself on the biggest overreaction i was wondering after four weeks even though i think green bay won their fourth game that they played in it just didn't look very good i'll have to double check this i mean you might have the entire love resume memorized here um yeah it was a bucks win it was 17 14 but i remember i remember leaving it going uh i don't know i just don't know if they're going to be any good so that moved me to two and two and i suggested in a different market with a different ownership the normal ownership group that matt lafleur would likely have lost his job by now and i regret having that thought because they're the best turnaround story in the in the nfl mine was after the falcons throttled the packers on thursday night football so about the same time period and i was like oh man like lafleur is a he's got fire all of his assistants and that's another thing all of his assistants are his buddies so he's always kind of like slow to fire them um or move on but that was the same thing i was like man they got to reconsider so much they're not making the playoffs so yeah the defense like oh my god they just got throttled you can run on them drake london's running free everywhere and then ever since then they've been like one of my favorite teams to watch offensively defensively so i had that as one maybe lions losing to the panthers on sunday night football after week i think both of these were week four so that was another one where i was just like re-evaluating and then really i maybe kind of didn't really need to because the lions kind of revamped themselves there was also a like reverse audit of well that falcons loss isn't that bad because look how competitive they've been and then i saw on monday tv shows that people were talking about atlanta is a team that you'd have to look out for in the nfc and that was before they beat san francisco that was after a competitive ravens loss a bears game that they sort of box score you got back into but didn't feel that way they beat the niners and then look you could call it a rain game but they got absolutely torched in the early window yesterday and looked helpless so it's been a couple tough weeks there for that falcons operation all right um the final award is called the mckay lemon passion award and if we can play the clip of him introducing himself how everybody doing okay that's why we call it the passion award um mine is i cannot wait to see what happens i cannot wait this is an incredible division historically right now if you go through week nine sando had this note 20 and 3 in games outside of the division that is the best record since the 1970 merger all right uh they've got another chance to get a win tonight with minnesota and buffalo which i kind of can't wait to see what happens to this game because you're just like is this is this system going to disrupt alan enough and it's like it doesn't feel like there's any way possible like this might be like the minnesota offensive wake-up call it's like you just can't hang with one of these teams that can find ways to do anything eventually offensively not saying they're going to put up 30 against this defense but when we were trying to rank the teams this is before like the green bay new england thing it was before minnesota i think it actually lost a game yeah because we were like god this seems so stupid you can't put minnesota last when they're undefeated behind these other squads you know even with this bears defense and then on top of detroit although detroit you know kind of a weird one there with miami yeah yeah it's some stuff that we haven't liked from them defensively defensively if we're ranking the nfc north is minnesota any better than third or fourth right now i'm fourth and i didn't and now i do yeah that seems so nasty and mean and wrong but it also feels right it does i can't wait i can't wait to see what happens with the division so that's my mckay lemon honestly it could be a weekly update all right how we rank the nfc north this week because it's just they're so good they just have a defense yes it legit defense like not like everything about it is very very legit like their linebacker now that their linebackers are playing really good it's like yeah i i feel a little bit better corners are still issue but that's the thing is like of their issues theirs are the most tolerable and they also have an o-line that's fine and you can comfort you can get a guy back with a run game wise so bears for me is like the easiest one at one and which is crazy like a couple weeks ago i think it's the bears that was before simmons trade but then man i still think i have the lions too and then the packers three but now even now i'm starting to kind of re-evaluate things with the packers again getting into the playoffs i really weigh offensive line because they're just the floor lifting and also the floor bottoming out because you're again you're going to play nothing but good teams in theory unless you play the nfc south but even if you play the nfc south and say it's the bucks you're playing the bucks defense and you have to go against with if you have an iffy offensive line you have to block that up um so that's another thing i i think i'm i i'll weekly check it on nfc north power rankings it's gonna be fun because it's a especially now that they're gonna start playing each other even more which is gonna just turn into just takeaways or abound after those games is that it for my rankings no you don't have any you don't have any mckay lemon for us i do i had jonah coleman rookie of the year i also think i'm going to be talking about the defensive rookie of the year race for the rest of the year uh david bailey arvel reese sunny styles i think that could be a weekly check-in kind of thing because i think all three of those guys are playing a mate amazing um and then a negative sense that we already talked about though was the rams passing game i'm going to just be on a negative sense i'm going to be hyper fixated on that especially with puka nakua being hurt because stafford just doesn't look right he hasn't looked right this entire season on top of all the injuries they have they he just did not look right and i looked at his gps tracking which could be wonky with quarterbacks he's moving slower moving less each snap there's underlying stuff here that's like really starting to kind of rear its ugly head so that was another one as well all right before we let you bounce on this one saturday was awesome not so much in the games but it was just kind of these showdowns and you know funny enough like a lot of the games went the way i thought they were going to go except for lsu alabama which i was in attendance for um yeah i mean i did a breakdown of it that we'll have before life advice and everything so we don't need to run through all of this i think i want to start with kind of a simple statement kind of see where it goes who would you most want to see play georgia in the national championship game and i don't say that even though i feel like george is the clear number one and should be the only one that's going to be the only team receiving first place votes in the ap and the coach's poll that's not the case that's totally fine whatever i'm not going to get hysterical about the whole thing um with this season in particular like we could get some kind of weird georgia loss in there that makes this this whole exercise seem stupid so i don't want to act like george's head and shoulders by everybody else but based on what we've seen and that they went into old miss and put up 35 before old miss even scored i just think that's kind of the jacksonville thing that we talk about hey if you're really good kick somebody's ass every now and then and georgia did that against a good old miss team and so now i'm kind of left with like if i could just play this out and i put georgia on one side of the bracket who would you most want to see them play i'm kind of chalk here because notre dame i i really think it is because just what their healthy defense can be and i think just offensively even though like car as a prospect is a wholly different discussion than him as a player but they have actually an offense that can kind of do both things as far as running it and throw it have a line that's okay because the other teams at the top i'm just like kind of they have one unit that i'm like you know like miami with or without tony i still have questions other some of their offensive stuff and just far like what that's not their problem right now that no i was gonna say they can't cover anybody they can't and they have dudes up front um i love one of their guys uh well two of their defense tag was by really like martin uh i'm on martin like it moten he's just been great i had him as a top 20 player on the last big board but that happened to wilson the edge guy was like i'm on martin like he's just been great i had him as a top 20 player on the last big guy that like transferred in we watch him in that clemson game and now he's like not just kind of nothing they they really squeeze themselves and what i mean is like when they rush they kind of take bad rush lanes it's kind of i don't know it's very minute or uh very micro but it's just one of these things where it's like they don't they're not very weaponized the guys in the interior are the outside guys just are run straight ahead you know there's not like kind of like a lot of like games and stuff they are working for them yeah their their defense is a mess i've got not like i'm gonna destroy the tackle so you can come in behind me then here comes the looper around it's like wow we got we the falcon when i was with the falcons we had awful defenses and and finally we drafted vic beasley um and then we had uh adrian claymore uh as a as a free agent and then we ran like some games with them you know like some twists and we're watching it back like man like those feel a little bit better it's like yeah you know beasley's beasley but it's like he was way more talented than the other guys we have it's like yeah when you run them with like decent players they feel a lot better like these plays work when you actually have a little bit of juice on the twist as opposed to just some no-name guys getting blocked up but to really just answer your question like the there's not because ohio state's whatever with the quarterback bama we kind of just see it bam is just so up and down like it just they're so up and down i mean they still couldn't run the football against lsu at all and you know you were like the beginning of the year i wondered if they went with keelan because i was like oh my god they're going to come back i was like he can escape and i thought his escaping like four bad plays against bat rouge or against in baton rouge you can sell a shoe i was like that's kind of the difference in this game here but you at least feel like personnel wise they could match up with georgia um but then again with that offensive line against georgia's front i'm like granted we already saw it and really impacted russell negatively in the second half of that game that they played there it might be notre dame because like indiana's offense i'd rather than play miami yeah what about utah where does utah stack up with the big boys better than i think people think because you know they're gonna get the big 12 discount i mean they're undefeated but better than they're gonna get the big 12 discount but they it's the second best conference of college football this year apparently apparently so i think it is yeah i know but it's their defense is legit uh and legit's tough word it's it's good but i just do think the offense does give teams issues because even if they're passing the ball wise it's not great they do have an offensive style it's well blocked they have talent as well the running back's legit they have an offensive lineman i had him in my top 10 williams um just overall their left tackle he's an interesting story as well but they actually have more team speed and talent to hang with the kind of these better teams as well and they're well coached um but it's just one of those things right i don't know if that's the difference between very good and the top tier but that's also what everybody else we can talk about right here like there's nothing i can get just like hang my hat on like texas's defense but then they're Their offense is kind of their offense. you know and all the ups and downs of their offense and their offense going against elite defenses okay we're gonna see so like that's another one that i think could be interesting more interesting just because at least their games are exciting and they have a cool defense and then they have team speed and the offense is boom bust so at least that can lead to some excitement um that's like the other ones too but utah not wake tennessee's offense don't trust um like lsu i know they have a couple losses i know you just saw them too it's just that their defense is legit and sam levitt is captain chaos and i called him a heineke to you that's what he is he's another he's a version of heineke but at least they have the monsters at receiver and at tight end and trade edge green and jackson harris i freaking love jackson harris um but just watching those pass catchers and the juice they have on offense they at least have that going for them as well even if they're a flawed team i wish austin simmons were on tennessee oh all right their defense is so cool it's so good like i i was talking to i forget who i was talking about maybe i already i can't tell if i did this on the phone with somebody or if i talked about like gilliam and stewart where i was like i think gilliam's had the better season and is a better player stewart yeah i was talking about eric connell belts in between oh we already did this then okay because i talked to somebody else about it too um but that tennessee defense like granted statistically it's actually a little lower than i thought it would be in like opposing yards for play i'm sure there's some other stuff that you could pull up there but they got hosed on the initial rankings and i understand it and they're not really getting a ton out of the quarterback position when they've already had to make a change with everything but i just want them to be alive and like this is a stupid exercise to be talking about austin simmons on another team in the sec but if he were on that team i would be like okay i think i like them better than anybody else because they're just they're gashing people right now and there's all sorts of personnel on that team that i really like so we didn't put ucla in there um nah i i've got good story they have some talent actually on defense especially but the offense is just i mean every game for them is a race to 20 it's just hard to like you know be like yeah i feel great about them especially what they do on offense which is kind of like get through it they're well coached like don't get me wrong this is a this feels very real yeah it's not disrespectful to just go hey this is what happened when we had this much in in the conferences and you can have a team run through it's like indiana two years ago okay where you go well how who how are they doing like what like they don't play them they don't play them they don't play so what and this is what it is and it's that's it you know and unfortunately college football let the big 10 have a baseball guy who's like hey let's just have more teams in the wild card and that means more fan bases are engaged in september and now the big 10 will have a better tv package for their partners because of fucking seven and three versus eight and two is going to mean something to get to the playoffs in week 10 so congrats on your 2014 play aim yourself now too scheduling so it's not because ucla might lose one or two games there yep get them out we gotta get a three loss team from another conference in here before them just i'm glad i don't have to like rank these teams because i already have enough trouble with the nfc north now going with 20 20 college football teams would be a little tough uh no but i when i do watch it because again it's kind of fun for me okay watching them on saturday and then usually i'm watching prospects and so i can kind of get fuel for all these units and like even before this weekend i was like oh man miami man i don't know because i was just watching what their defense was doing and i was like man there's some gashes there i can't and i knew some of the stats were actually okay for him but i was like i don't know and then sure enough how he kind of plays out the offense too being very screen heavy a lot of focus on tony and then you saw that passing game i mean for the first half kind of bottom out and then second half kind of pick up um but it's like for me even with notre dame watching that byu game they ran to a buzzsaw had some moments and everything but they lost on the line of scrimmage against byu which i was not expecting now imagine the playoffs who they go against because then it's like some of these teams like they play some of these sec teams have some real juice up front they're missing their best edge guy which i bring up every time because you get ejected from the game but i just um well that's a perfect note because in my hotel room the water has been off for a few hours and i just heard it now flooding hey so that's a good good spot to end it flooding like the disappointment through tiger stadium in the fourth quarter sticks the landing there you go and then now i'm gonna rank my favorite tv title champions no i'm kidding keep us yeah give us an update on your hardcore rankings we'll do a tier of that that would be that would be terrific uh nate tice football 301 and you can see his latest draft big board on yahoo sports thanks buddy thanks man some shake-ups in our college football top 12 when it goes to 24 i will not rank 24 teams we'll just do some monologuing how's that sound uh all right so georgia i don't think there's another team that should be getting a number one vote um some votes for utah notre dame's getting some votes uh there's a couple coaches that are still voting for indiana which is a good thing because they're still voting for indiana which is a good thing because speaks to kind of that old mel kuiper theory where he was like if you win the national championship you should be the preseason number one even if all 80 players are entirely different i was fascinated by it because i certainly didn't agree but i think that's why some coaches would still have the indiana we'll get to indiana and kurt signetti's comments uh after the college football playoff committee ranking so look georgia i just don't think there's many programs and georgia may be the only program that can go to old miss and i'm not calling old miss like the most daunting place you could ever play football but to go in there and be up 35 nothing it's just it's just such a statement win um you know i love watching teams that we think are supposed to be good but like hey could this team win a championship just kick somebody's ass and that's what they did to old miss and they continue to do it with big plays in a way that you always felt like the last couple years of georgia you're like hey they're good you know they're going to be in the sec title game but i don't know if they're really like national contender national title contender or i mean granted you're in the playoffs so you feel that way but you know we're also holding the standard of previous championship games and we're also georgia teams are winning national championships and this team in 26 is starting to look like those teams so only one fumble and they recovered their own fumble utah at number two i thought about notre dame a little bit but honestly with the common opponent in byu even if you want to get into the home or road venue argument with this there's just not really a good argument despite notre dame knocking off number one in miami at home i just don't think you can do that considering notre dame lost to byu and utah took care of them this game was crazy because you know utah starts off and they're like are they going to beat up on byu like this is the holy war this isn't supposed to happen i don't care what the spread is um i mean this is this is kind of weird like they're just going to roll over byu and that's not the way football is you don't normally play it out and then there are stretches where i was like okay byu is clearly the better football team bear bachmeyer three interceptions then a fourth late which we're not going to hold against him the third one though is that classic linebacker interception by reynolds because they're down 28 20 minutes to go bears like oh my god my receiver is wide open in the back of the end zone and reynolds makes an incredible play as a linebacker and those are the throws like i don't love it obviously uh it's third down you're not going to maybe get another chance at this but at least it wasn't first down but i just don't like there's times where i see a quarterback make a throw we talked about this at the top of tyson the interceptions but that is not like hey you lost to safety or you can't see it it's just i didn't expect the linebacker to be able to make that kind of play and i don't think that's going to happen i don't think that's going to happen um so he had four picks on the day the dampier roller coaster went in the right direction for utah and i have no problem with utah at two at this point even if we could get into some scheduled stuff and say oh well if they played in this kid like yeah we would agree but like sometimes you get to kind of move on which means ucla's three no no sorry i'm not going to do that so notre dame at number three i don't know if i would have put them at two if notre dame kept playing like they i'm not saying like necessarily notre dame did anything wrong i think it's very common in football where you're up that big you're just not going to block as hard you're not going to pass rush as hard you're not you're just not going to play as hard because you're like we're winning this football game yet miami came back and i do wonder if that miami comeback to make the score looks better granted it's such a weird year but if it were a more difficult year and in miami to lose a second game i wonder if the final score of this would help miami if it came down to it but i don't think it's really even going to matter i think they could probably still lose a second game and they would be fine but we told you about that defense for miami well cj car was incredible 29 to 40 319 through the air this is over a month now where miami is just not that good passing wise their opponents yards per play right now is 52nd in the country they were 10th last year when they played the national championship game and malachi tony you know you knew once he went out with this ankle issue um it was going to be a challenge for him and it was until they got the things going in that second half but you know tony looks like the most valuable player in college football after that first half here's the crazy thing about the comeback so on the fourth and sixth throw to lofton i was in baton rouge obviously for the lsu bama game and we went to my friend's place and we were watching notre dame miami with no sound on and we were outside we were off to the corner we're watching the game and you're kind of like wait they're back you know it was one of those things just like hey they're back in this like they're back in it like they're about to throw into the end zone here and see if they're going to tie this thing up. often looks like he catches it from the camera angle because we're seeing the back of him um you know i'm like okay they just they're gonna tie this up and then they show the front angle how i was like how is that incomplete and when i saw the replay he bobbles it then it's knocked out so even though he has the two feet down and it looks like hey catch he didn't complete the catch in whatever definition there is of what's a catch that we've been talking about now for like 15 years i thought that was pretty clear and here's the thing lofton didn't even argue it when it was incomplete so i didn't hear the sound i didn't talk to anybody about it um wasn't on social media and then i didn't realize until yesterday that this was a thing like christobal i watched his post game he's like well i told our guys we gotta win on the field because this is what happens to you up here like okay um and then he said basically it was a clear possession it wasn't a clear possession and you're your own receiver didn't fucking argue it so i didn't think it was a catch when i saw the whole thing i didn't think it was a controversy i woke up the next day it was like oh i guess this is sort of a thing here um but look notre dame at three and back on the right side of things as they look to get in the playoffs all right number four i'm gonna put bama there i have more on bama when i'll recap the game a little bit here after i do the top 12 but i thought keelan russell's play just avoiding the damaging play avoiding something with a path rush him getting loose play falling apart him turning these certain negatives into positives i thought was the story of the football game for alabama so i have them at four at number five i'll put miami there um again i just wonder if that comeback would matter at least score wise debating in the room after 12 games and the conference championship games i still just don't think it's really going to matter because so many teams have been losing games this year all right so ucla i'll put them six uh if it were 14 games i think it would be a good game i think it would be a good game i think it would be a good game i think it would be a good game i think it would be a good we'd have the big 10 championship game they're first obviously in the big 10 right now so i wonder i wonder if everybody well it doesn't really matter like if we were sitting here in the old system with four teams and if they were fourth would anybody be going like that's who's going to be playing for a national championship but there would still be work to do and they still clearly have some work to do in some tough games minnesota is in that good not great tier of teams we could do it in any conference but i think specifically this year the big 10 where i think there's a hey look you know maybe this side of the ball isn't that good but they're going to play you they're going to play you for 60 minutes and that's kind of how i think of minnesota um even though the defensive numbers are worse than i thought they would be but it's 17 17 on the road and then you've got two 75 yard plays so ucla responds big time in the fourth quarter i have them in number six all right i've got some time for signetti in indiana all right so i have them seventh um and after the committee rankings came out where indiana was fourth as much as people were upset about bama and the bama tennessee argument that feldman brought up on our show which i would agree with you know you're like whoa okay like how does that happen um and i would also remind everybody like this is the human nature element of this sport which is incredibly frustrating but teams not just sec teams teams that are successful recently in the brand name it's just really hard for people to doubt those teams look at ohio states just lining up against somebody else even if they look bad like they do this year and just that unbelievable oregon game or it's like i was just going to get gashed but now what would you be saying about ohio state we're like well they lost you know 13 guys in the nfl draft the last two years on defense alone so eventually that was going to happen i was like that's not what anybody was saying in august they said they lost them and they would just reload because they're ohio state we give them the benefit of the doubt we gave florida state the benefit of the doubt after they won a national championship that next year even though they kept winning games we're like this looks different like this just doesn't look as good so the benefit of the doubt thing is really hard to ignore and here's the thing the end of the benefit of the doubt when for a month we'd all agree like this just doesn't look that great like look what happened to michigan and indiana barely beat them you know they try to give that game away to minnesota so that was a little bit worse but i mean for michigan to lose to michigan state and then a couple weeks ago you're like indiana was lost to those guys so for signetti to complain about the committee and espn and um to complain about the sec and then tweet out this nonsensical like here's facts about our resume it's like nobody really thinks like this is the creative top 25 at the time versus top 25 at the end of the season like look i've been doing this a long time i know how to do it if i want to put together a resume for a team that looks a little bit better than it really is it's super easy to do and then he did it he hit the danny cannell cycle on this one but for him to complain about bias or anything that happens and look i take offense to it when i was at espn i did a jimbo fisher i said it to him when he was in the room with us i was like you know when you cause your constituents like this frenzy of thinking everyone's out to fucking get you um you know it just it ends up being like misleading and he was like good to know you know he just was like gonna tell me to go fuck myself um but i mean this is like elon musk complaining about capitalism for him to be after indiana's fourth in the playoff committee rankings to then immediately be like hey you know espn scc and again i was there a long time i haven't worked there in a long time i still feel the same way nobody walked up to me on monday and was like hey do you know what to say if you got the script although they may have been like hey we already got rossillo we don't need him all right moving on number eight texas the inactives going into this missouri game you're like they're missing a lot of dudes i know that they're supposedly loaded and they're the number one defense in college football which is easy to forget but a nice reminder in that fourth quarter against mizzou where i would say nobody respects mizzou even when they're good uh and they have the quarterback to go along with it so uh missouri's a good football team so when they're down 2013 meaning texas i'm like is this gonna happen again like do not because now we're back to like what if texas can kind of put it together and get healthy there like can this be a team that makes a run and i picked them to win a national championship too so uh they're a hard team to quit and after being down this may be the most important drive of the texas season if they were able to get in the playoffs and win a game and then who knows but honestly it just feels too inconsistent too inconsistent on offense for me to get there but nine plays 75 yards a 25 yard touchdown pass on third down and that may be a drive but again we were saying the same thing about the ohio state comeback and those drives and those fourth down conversions were like this is going to set the tone for the season and then it didn't so maybe i'm doing it all over again but to hold missouri in that four three punts a fumble and turnover on downs is why texas defense is their calling card this season number nine tennessee uh this one i think all of us knew this was going to happen to kentucky unfortunately kentucky coming in 42nd in college football on points per drive defensively 88th in college football on points per drive allowed so they had this record they had what looked like some nice wins and yet i think there were some underlying numbers there where you went i don't know if this team is going to be able to handle tennessee and their defense because tennessee's d and their run game is their recipe and mcintyre i mean what do you go 9 to 14 in this one they didn't even need to pass whatsoever that's how dominant this performance was by the balls and i think considering like looking at the big picture with them and the win against alabama um you know look you could you could get really weird if you wanted to put tennessee even higher if you wanted to which i wouldn't be opposed to all right number 10 texas tech wake 11th i don't really know what to do with these two teams i'm going to tell you that right now tech gave up 48 to west virginia they had to come back in this although everybody you know every time you play west virginia they score a million points here but then on the other side texas tech had 638 yards total offense so when it comes to the 1204th quarter you kind of feel good about that but you're also like if i'm picking you to be a playoff team should i have to hope you you outscore the opponent of like a west virginia level opponent 12 zip in the fourth quarter strength and schedule of wake wake 60th strength schedule for texas tech 74th you know it kind of comes down to this i mean wake put it on merrimack and merrimack had just come off a nice two-week stretch but uh no geo lopez in steel pazella shout out you know what i'm going to say this i'm going to go wake 10 texas tech 11th because i think the miami louisville ones and twos are better than arizona houston if you're looking at like the two best teams that the teams have played um and granted tech beat both of those but then lost to cincinnati so wakes loss is better so i'm fine having wake 10 texas tech 11th and then i'll keep byu at 12. all right a little uh baton rouge recap had been planning on going to this game go to it every year but doing it a long time missed a couple regret it happened whatever since 2008 i've been going to this game um got in late you know good crew chris long in the mix he came into baton rouge for another one and his buddies um and the vibe around this i hate that word but the vibe around this matchup was very different than a lot of the other ones you know a lot of these other games you kind of went into it being like i'm probably gonna lose but you know at least we can go to walk-ons after um this was very different you know that was a pretty hefty number to be favored by six and a half with the history of this game and he started looking at it being like all right lsu they got the super bowl there for old miss with kip offense return disastrous first half came back played really well in the second half and then Trinidad Chambliss happened right the Kentucky won two-point conversion on the road although you know that game was incredibly frustrating because you're looking at it from an LSU perspective being like if they just had pulled out that Kentucky game like who knows and then they've got Bama they've got Texas like this could start going in a great direction here quickly so it felt like the night before the energy before the tailgates into the stadium everybody was kind of on the same page of like this is the first time in a very long time going into Bama coming into Tiger Stadium where you're like I think LSU's got them and you've never felt that way okay ever there have been some awful performances by LSU here and if you go through like some of the numbers I think it was the last 15 years if you go LSU at home they were like 84 and 9 against everybody else that wasn't Bama and then against Bama it was like one in six all right so I just realized that my personal record in the state of Louisiana for LSU against Alabama is now one in nine the only win I have is the Mason Taylor catch in overtime and that wasn't that long ago so I started coming to 2008 10 11 12 14 all the way through and then you clue the national championship rematch against Bama because I was at the LSU win in Tuscaloosa in that overtime game that was incredible um I'm wanted so it might be me but other people have said it also might be Bama so they're letting me off the hook there a 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to do a little story time um before we get to that we get Kyle we get Steve we get Kyle and his Johnny's gear very fired up silver linings man today's the first day of the rest of your life yeah I think the first time I heard that yeah that guy whoever said that first was like I just cooked it is I mean it's it he did I mean this there's no there's no way you could poke holes in that it's short it's you know what I mean there's not not any fat could you could you suggest well then if that means tomorrow is also the first day of the rest of my life can I just can we just deal with that tomorrow or maybe even the day after that there was a Stanford who was like oh he's listed his day to day and he would just say aren't we all I think that or it was either him or it was Neil one of the two guys like who was the first to do that that would surprise me no it might have been it might have been Neil though I'm thinking of it oh I don't know I think it's I think it was so good that I thought it was one of the OG guys and then they just kept it going so I don't know who said it first but I I thought that was around for a while it's incredible either way so whoever knows the whoever I should give credit to shouts out to you because I think Bob Lee had a license plate that said dnpcd we think of the same Bob Lee yeah he's a real wild card man wow all right I don't know we didn't hang out a lot if you're wondering no bummer uh which I regret I remember somebody was like oh I don't know I don't know if you're wondering no bummer uh which I regret I remember somebody was like oh I don't know if you're wondering no bummer uh which I regret I remember somebody was like oh I don't know if you're wondering I remember somebody was like oh I don't know if you're wondering no bummer uh which I regret I remember somebody was like oh I don't know if you're wondering no bummer uh which I regret I remember somebody was like you know you can't mess with Bob Lee like you know you can't mess with Bob Lee like you know you can't mess with Bob Lee like he's the conscience of this place I was like he's the conscience of this place I was like he's the conscience of this place I was like really I was like I don't I was like I like really I was like I don't I was like I work in radio so who cares what I have to say so you work in radio so who cares what I have to say so you know it just never dawned on me that I was know it just never dawned on me that I was know it just never dawned on me that I was like oh okay I always liked him I mean like oh okay I always liked him I mean like oh okay I always liked him I mean obviously he was great at what he did but obviously he was great at what he did but obviously he was great at what he did but yeah we yeah different cats um day-to-day yeah we yeah different cats um day-to-day yeah we yeah different cats um day-to-day yeah yeah so my record in Tiger Stadium or yeah yeah so my record in Tiger Stadium or yeah yeah so my record in Tiger Stadium or the state of Louisiana as we mentioned the state of Louisiana as we mentioned the state of Louisiana as we mentioned during the rankings is not great and we during the rankings is not great and we during the rankings is not great and we had never really put it together and a had never really put it together and a had never really put it together and a couple guys are like what's your record couple guys are like what's your record since you started coming here and i was like i don't want to tell you i was like it's really bad which is crazy because normally we know the theory when i move to your town you win championships so either i have to move here which i'm probably not going to do um it's a bit like my steph curry nba finals record which seems impossible that it's that bad because it's steph curry in the nba finals but my record for him is actually terrible when i show up to those games so um If he's in the finals this year, I won't be going. Kiffin's also 7-7 against ranked teams in the SEC. He's 0-3 this year. And it's funny that DeBoer is now 9-4 against ranked SEC teams in Alabama. And it's like, you know, everybody complains about the one guy. Granted, Kiffin hasn't even been here for a full season, so that's a little bit different. But anyway, you guys know that have listened to the show, you know, Brandon Landry and Mac, his wife, have hosted me for years. And then Todd Graves as well, Raising Canes. So, you know, good friend, Todd Graves. He was out of commission this weekend, so we didn't get to see him. But we made it to the supper club, so it was a really good crew of guys. A lot of chirping, a lot of chirping. I did, because I was in New York for a night, I bought a John Elliott shirt. Shout out to John Elliott. That may have a little paint splatter on the shirt. Any holes? No holes. Distressed? No? Okay. It was washed. It was a washed finish. It was a faded black, Kyle. I like that you're on this. What was the paint color? It was just the lightest little flickering of white. You know, splattering. Yeah. Yeah. So, as I was buying it, too, I was like, "Are you doing this?" And I was like, "Yeah, I kind of like it. I'm doing it." And then I wore it, which I actually had to get changed in supper club because I flew. And then directly from New Orleans, I had to take a taxi there. So, it was like just one of those pain in the ass travel things. And they're like, "Just meet us at the dinner, because that's the only way it's going to work." And I'm like, "All right." I got changed there. There's some photos of me dealing with suitcase in the nicest restaurant in town, which, you know, it's the only way to do it, but we're going to post them. So, we're going to let it go. Other restaurants reached out, because the picture was already making the rounds, like everybody in Louisiana to be like, "Look at this asshole." And then another restaurant was like, "You know, we have places where people can change." And I was like, "I didn't fucking change in front of everybody. I just had to grab the suitcase." It was the only way to do it. Yeah, I'm not on a list, dude. What are we doing here? I don't really know what else to tell you, but the highlight of it was just there was a lot of conversation. About the shirt being like, "You're still wearing stuff like that?" And I was like, "Yep. All right, let's go. Just fucking unload, you know, change the damn timer. We got it. I got it." And then the driver of the Sprinter van, who I've known for years, he actually said to me, and he's like, "Raseel, are you painting today?" And guys lost their fucking minds, because he didn't mean it as a chirp. He just was like, "Did you get done with some work?" Like, "You don't live here, but you're doing some spec on somewhere?" "Were you helping somebody out?" It's incredible. Oh, man, after. Yeah, that's tough. I got to ask, "Raseel, are you doing some painting today?" Maybe 30 times over the next 24 hours. Immediately, yeah. The theme of the weekend, that's awesome. Yeah, right. The other theme was that Kevin Costner was at the dinner at Supper Club, but he was at the table next to us. But, you know, he was. Whatever the setup was, it was like, "Hey, you're going to be in this guy's suite. He's next to you," whatever. And Costner, man, his presence, I can't believe it. I can't believe how well he's aged. He looks fantastic, really sick, Montclair track jacket on. Nobody's giving him shit about wearing something that was a little fashionable. He's probably not as tall as he feels, which is a huge compliment. And then he came over to the table, said hi to everybody. And it was like a bunch of. There was women at another table that then made fun of us. They're like, "You look like 12 puppy dogs." We're like, "Well, it's fucking Kevin Costner," you know? And then one of my buddies was like, "Do I tell him that Waterworld is coming up next week?" And just ahead of his time, I was like, "Maybe we wait. Maybe we wait on that." The message is good, but the medium isn't. That's the problem there. Yeah. And it was. He probably doesn't hear that that often. Yeah, he probably would love that, but he probably. I don't know. I don't know if he would have loved it, but he came over, he just alpha'd out a table of, you know, alphas and just everybody's sort of staring up at him, like, in a glaze of admiration, you know, just like, "Oh, hey, all right." So then go to the game. Second half, I like to stay on the sideline. Nobody else wanted to stay on the sideline. That's fine. And then it's a day game. I haven't been there for a day game in a long time. And then they were all convinced that it was, like, a big conspiracy theory. The LSU fans that I talked to were like, "Oh, this is. " I was like, "Actually, the slate is loaded today, and it's not just about you." And then they were like, "No, you're wrong." I was like, "Okay, fine, fine, just move on." So we get up to the suite, and Costner's in there. and I'm just going to tell the story because Costner's going to sound like the man. Everybody left him alone, right? I think he was there with his family, but nobody wanted to be the guy that was like going to say something to him or like force the issue. And there was a couple of guys that probably could have had enough juice to go, hey, I'm going to go up like I met you before at this thing because one of my friends had actually like met him at this thing. Wait, was Chris Long there? Yeah, yeah. So he could have done it, right? He absolutely could have done it because they had already met and they talked about it a little bit that night prior. But it was like very clear that all of us were kind of looking at each other and be like, don't ask him like, hey, that was a pretty good pass, huh? Like tap him on the shoulder while he's in front of us. He'll try to come up to us if we're just cool about it. Yeah, if he wants to talk to anybody about this game, he'll let us know. Then we have the power. So this is what I thought was so cool is that the game is turning, but you're still hoping the crowd's going to get into it on third down. Like once Bama responds, like the entire stadium's going crazy. LSU goes up 13-10. You're like, okay, this is what's supposed to happen. And then the first play of the next possession for Bama is a 57-yard pass to Rico Scott. And you're like, are you fucking serious? Like this is just going to end up from that point on. It was awful, right? Like Leavitt had 380 passing yards. It felt like 180. Like that's one of those empty box scores. You're like, how many yards did he pass for? Didn't matter. So there was a huge third down for LSU's defense. And this one, a woman came over from the luxury suite next to us to show him her phone of a TikTok video that somebody had taken. I sounded like we're going to lose. Yeah. The video that somebody had taken of Costner, like just normally clapping, like after a good play or something like that. And he put his hand up, was like, hold on, and didn't quite acknowledge her. And then the two women were kind of like, oh, I can't believe, we just did that. We just bothered him. You know, whatever. Like that totally backfired. Maybe somebody else could have perceived as him just being rude, being like, I don't want to see your stupid video on your like, leave me alone. And what he actually did was because it was the third down, he wanted to see what happened. Whatever. Bama probably converts. And then he reaches over to the woman, which wasn't like next to him immediately, but like, you know, railing taps her. And he's like, hey, let me see that. So he was that locked into the game that he was like, don't, you can't show it to me now. This is a big down. And then once the play, you know, reset the downs, everything. He was like, okay, let's see that. Undivided attention. There you go. Yeah. I was like, look at that. He stayed locked in in the game and then also was like, cool about it. And so then when it was just, everybody was emptying out of the stadium, we stayed a little bit later, right? Because Melania Trump was there too. So we had to go through like secret service screening, which we've never had because we were like, what are we doing? We're like, yeah, this is. She was there. Wow. Yeah. She was there. She's a huge Lane Kiffin fan. Ah, yeah. Yeah. So some kid came running up and he was like, don't take the ridge. Don't take the ridge to Costner. Screaming at him. Yeah. And then he was like, I love that movie. So, yeah. Yeah. He feels like one of those dudes where like he's probably had so much social training in that way. Like his muscle for that situation is just better than anybody else's, right? Because he's been, he's always in public. People are always probably showing him stuff. He's always having like kind of eyes over, like trying to maintain being like a cool dude. And it probably comes naturally to him, but also like the muscle of just being in public and being a public figure. Like I don't have that. Like I would just, I would blackout. I blackout drop my kids off at daycare sometimes. I'm just like, what am I supposed to say? Oh no. Like, you know, like, his muscle for that is probably so great that it's just, it's just like second nature to him, you know? Yeah. I don't know that anybody was like waiting for this podcast to be like, Hey, Kevin Costner. Do you guys, do you guys hear about Rosillo? Yeah. Costner. Cool. Confirmed. Breaking. Yeah. Yeah. We don't have to debate it anymore, guys. Costner. No, but it is, it is cool to like, to confirm it, right? Just be like, oh no, he's actually as awesome as you think he would be. Yeah. He just, you know, even it was a little chilly once the sun went down and there was like a sweet host and they went to hand out blankets and they weren't handing them out to everybody and they gave Costner a blanket and he immediately hands it to this woman in front of him. Like not even a thought like, Hey, do I give this blanket to her or whatever? And he just was like, Hey, blanket. And you know, the girl turns around and it's like, and you know, Chris Long and I tap each other like, still got it. Yeah. That guy. He didn't even think he knew as soon as he touched the blanket was handed to him. He's like, I'm going to give it to a woman. But can I, did you ever figure out, can I ask the question? Why was he there? Just because he wanted to be there? I think he appreciates sports, right? And this is like one of the top of the list thing. He did the walk. He did the walk in with like, you know, Shaq and Deans and Angel Reese and people were just like, what's cost? I mean, obviously fine bomb because he rips everybody ripped him. It was like, okay, like cool. Wait, fine bomb rip Costner? Oh, of course. Listen, listen. I didn't mean to bring that up because the story for a different day, but that man rips everyone in existence just so that's like his shtick. But it was, it was just like, hey, what's cost? What's cost? Does Costner have a connection to LSU that I didn't know about? He'd never been to a game there. So how do you, how do you go through life as a sports fan and never go to LSU once, you know? So I don't, there was probably more to it. There was probably some more connection. We never, I didn't say a word to him. So I figured, yeah. Yeah. But would you, would you have said if you had to say something? I sat right next to him and then I was like, I'm not, I'm going to go out of my way. He's probably like, that Russillo guy's kind of a dick. He just kicked me out. He definitely, probably never thought that. We have talked about your greetings before. Yeah, it's, you know. There was just no, I didn't, I didn't have anything. I mean, unless I was going to be like, hey, Sheridan a tough hang? Yeah, but I could get a good laugh, you know? Yeah, but that, that would be something I would say and then it also has like a great chance of backfiring. Right. You mean the greatest TV producer of our generation? Hey, can we get this guy out of here? What's going on? Yeah. Oh, what are you, what are you banging away at final draft? You write some emotional dog shit thing about your childhood? Ooh, yeah. Yeah. I don't think he would have done that either. No, Kevin Costner checks out. So there you go. Good dude. Read some emails. What have we got here? We have, we have a lot of follow-ups on all sorts of stuff. I don't know. There might, we might just have to forward these all to like a Friday feedback thing or something, but we do have, yeah, we're due for one of those. Yeah. All right. What's that email again? Friday feedback, rrgmail.com. Sounds right. Yeah. It's part of the RR network. Multiverse. Wait, cause he's starting his own company. Well, he's got six emails, so he's on, he's, he's on to something here right now. All right. What's up fellas? Six foot, one 95, two 35 pound, two 35 bench, three 50 squat, 88 to 90 mile per hour arm. Damn. What? Touching 90. Player comp, Sean Livingston recently, but someday Sam Hauser. It's just how I feel depending on the day. I have a teammate in my school in Pacific Northwest. I have the internal battle of saying something to become. He's older than me. It's also a major player for us. He's really competitive in a stubborn way. And I also just don't know if I want to ruin the relationship. Cause there's a good chance. You just see me as a Dick. We do have some confrontational teammates that could do it. The weird part is he's a great guy. It doesn't cause problems, but he has that big guy smell. And it's sometimes it's hard to handle in the back of the bus on a seven hour road trip. Love the pod. Need a mailbag soon. Well, there you go. Um, Denny is all pro. You mean all NBA first team? Cause I think he made all NBA last year, but I don't think he's, yeah. Uh, we had a smell one recently, didn't we? What's that? We had another, we had another smell one recently, didn't we? Yeah. Well, that's why he's responding. He was just kind of like, I guess that's not really a followup. It's, it sort of is. I was thinking about it though when I read it. Um, because of the other situation that you had about your buddy that was single, stinky Bob. I hope he had a good weekend. Probably danced a lot, but if you're a younger teammate, I think you got to let that guy smell. If he's like a good player and he's older than you, that's you. That's, that's different. That's different than college buddy in your thirties. Hasn't had a girlfriend in years. Hey, do we do something? I think when it's, whether it's high school or college, my guess is college. And he's one of the best players and he's a big guy. Just kind of has that big guy musk to him. It's not your place to tell him you got to let him smell. Totally. And I think sports is kind of a smell safe place for the most part. I think for the, like, you know, guys, guys, lockers used to just be fucking terrible, you know, and the moldy pads and stuff. It just, I think it's just kind of a safe space. It's like a, it's like, sorry, this, this just is part of it. You smell unfortunate things on this team. Yeah. It's just part of it. There's going to be one day you're going to miss it. I have pride. I don't know how to tell you, but one day you're going to miss it. One more whiff. One of the first times I went into a hockey locker room, I was like, thank God I played basketball. I go, what the hell are these guys doing in here? Yeah. And then you realize it's just, well, it's not like, wash and a tank top here buddy no yeah that stuff doesn't come out of the you know i could to kyle's point i could still i like it's like nostalgia i can still smell like after a rainy football practice what that what that locker room smells like man like there's just those like foam pads that are just oh man good lord smallville you know just rudy little rain tussled hair pads in his left arm no i was that kid who sold the pads were way too big for him all right uh co-worker says leberry 39 5 11 185 no impressive gym stats but after a set of squats as a senior in high school i proclaimed that's the last time i'm ever doing those again and have held that promise basketball comp jj reddick not for the basketball talent mainly just the floor slapping dude damn i think it was you 's more than it was reddick is the all-time floor slapper but i don't when i think duke floor slappers i don't i think i think woj first but uh here's the dilemma i'm the middle manager at a large engineering company one of the engineers on my team let's call him todd pronounces library leberry not even library probably library yeah maybe it's library library i'm going down to the library and pay my bills or something yeah yeah it's probably not library yeah i think it's library lie yeah you're probably right i just felt like the phonetic part of this i can't even pronounce the word i can tell you i know five guys that did that when i was yeah when i was a young adult so i knew exactly what he's talking about i assume in most jobs the word library doesn't come up that much and i could just ignore it unfortunately for todd he works on a managing uh works on managing a set of simulations in various libraries and it comes in nearly every conversation including discussions with our customers and presentations in front of uh 50 plus people holy shit the first time i heard it his emphasis was so hard on barry i thought he was making a joke and messaged a colleague laughing about it then it kept happening he has no other speech impediments so it's not that it's jarring todd is a great engineer a very smart guy but i fear his pronunciation instantly devalues his opinions with anyone he talks to what do i do just suck it up and tell this 35 year old man he pronounces library like a second grader or just let it go yeah there's some real stakes here this is an old man thing to do too like i feel like that young guys don't like the berry thing library like it's like an old man thing i i'm that's not that weird but for this in this context for him to do that and it's a word that he uses a lot that doesn't make a ton of sense i can't place that it's like when les miles pronounced arkansas arkansas arkansas dude i love that do you remember stanford steve did a commercial do you remember you know i'm talking about i ever tell you about this well what a tv commercial yeah so it was well it wasn't like a it was like a read for for the sports center so it's like they were going to break and stanford steve did the voiceover i would assume it's taped or maybe it had to be live and i forget if it my wife and i talk about this all the time i don't even know if i've ever brought this up to steve you never brought it up to me i i haven't he pronounced fajitas oh fajitas oh okay that's better than i thought you were and they left it in so i was like it had to be live like there's no way no one would correct him on that this was years ago like probably right after they first started maybe a year or two until they came out doing the show and it was like all right you know svp sports centers fajitas are on the menu and it was just i was like what i remember watching i was like what the hell there's no way steve hasn't had sizzling hot fajitas no there's no way that guy's never i wish i saved it i wish i i don't didn't really have a dvr thing but yeah that's where somebody goes hey they're not fajitas you can't do that the gds or whatever yeah i think this guy's in a predicament because i know like there was a sales guy at espn who could not pronounce my name he couldn't pronounce my name so we'd go to these kind of dog and pony shows where the on-air guys would show up to meet clients and you know the sales guys would always be like fucking seven or eight people and they'd be like oh my god i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that and they'd be like oh you're going to come over here and meet like you know whatever and there were parties too so it wasn't like the guy was like drinking on a shuttle before something he wasn't supposed to everybody's supposed to be drinking but there was one guy who forever and like that was at the point where i actually had my name on the show and he murdered my name and he would introduce me to clients or potential clients and i would sit there and believe it or not like try to turn it on and they i just would always i can't really correct him because he already said it but then a lot of times the client would know like oh yeah we listen to you all the time with scott or whatever something like that so i think you since you're younger and this guy's older you've got to go above him and just go hey i think it makes us look bad that he doesn't know how to say this word and then says it over and over and over again yeah i think a lot of people have a few words i have a couple that are kind of weird and then people blame it on new england and i think the idea idea one i used to say idea all the time that's a very new england thing i can't imagine you doing that but okay i did it forever i don't know why i just did it because i think everybody like there was pockets in new england that you said idea like oh that's a good idea yeah and um there's a couple other words so i do think most people kind of have words but if it is about this industry in particular yeah and you you're on the team you're on his side i i think you need to fix this yeah i i looked this up um are there any places that you're on the team that you're on the side that you're on the team that you're on the team in the u.s where people say library instead of library and it's like actually why yes upstate new york in the mid-atlantic so that's why it rings a bell for me and also delco this guy's delco i could see that i could totally see that i don't know what's going on with i could listen to paragraphs of just just look it up you know on youtube that and like whatever they got going in baltimore it's just i can't get enough of that our guy belfry absolutely nailed the delco accent by the way that was awesome in tasks so just i actually wish i had more scenes that he talked more because i was like give me more of this man that's probably that's a top five favorite accent for me just in life it's a delco accent i do wonder if there was like a delco goodwill hunting maybe angles we should write it it's probably a show hey here's an emotional drama it's two hours but basically we're just pounding delco accents here and then that becomes like black white goodwill hunting's on a 30-year run of content because of people still doing boston accents like oh what do you do on instagram oh i i have a boston accent i review stuff be like oh that must kill 2026 you're still doing this shit so um i i'm all for that but i mean i don't know suri you haven't chimed in here yet like do you did you have to correct anybody do you there's probably some times with on-air guys where they would do taped reads and you guys would be in the studio and you'd be like hey you can't actually say that word or would you let it go the only one that i remember and this isn't this doesn't even pertain to this at all but i did have to correct will kane once because he mispronounced jeff passan's name um which was i was like how do you even i was like usually i would like if i would give the pronunciation just if they didn't know i was like oh passan's like a pretty straight what do you do you don't have to write that in there for will yeah if you're a volkswagen guy i mean you know you just think yeah and i was like dude what after the after the hit because i think i don't i forget if jeff corrected him or not i like knew jeff a little bit then so i was like hey dude sorry and i was like will's actually like a big fan and they're i think they're like they were cool after it was actually they made a joke about it the next time he came on but i was like what the hell are you doing dude passan well this is insane so but but jeff was cool about it because you know he's a cool dude so that's the only one i could really remember like a word though that being we had a lot of lately wrong joe house ad reads and i can't think of one but i was just like we're gonna have to do that again man back when we when he started house of carbs and it was just like me and him figuring it out it was and he had so many ad buys because it was like one of the first new big shows we had and he was just i mean i was like we'll just run it back i don't think we can i don't think we can fix that we're gonna have to do that again i don't think we can fix that one there were so so many uh i missed your house yeah uh-huh look at that look at kyle all right uh yeah i think you just would go to somebody else go to somebody else that's a little bit older i think part of your presentation would be like i'm not being that guy but i'm just gonna say like that's a little weird i can't be the only one who knows yeah yeah right chances are just you needed a little nudge based on kyle's research you know maybe find out find out if this guy's from what do you guys call like wait upstate new york you don't call it god's country too do you north country there's a lot of people thrown around god's country it's like well how many vacation places does he have i think i think it's branded as the north country i think like everyone knows that okay all right god's country we could do a draft of five places i would call god's country and that would unfortunately probably not be upstate new york i was like god's country was like montana yeah i think the south probably has a pretty pretty good hold on some god's country sky it's god's country that's fine i don't know yeah but i've also it's been vermont forever for me but i'm too close i'm too close to okay everybody has their own country but it's just i've heard god's country for decades and then when i heard it somewhere else i was like what the fuck you know whatever queen city you want to do that list i don't have time yeah pipsy's a queen city well i tell you it's not really surprising yeah let's uh let's do one more here that's very different i like this one a lot i'm a huge james bond fan so let's go submitting for a friend and i five six one seventy do you like james bond surity i do is the is the the new guy official no how old are you for your bond movie steve i know you've got like a an issue with you know i grew up in the Pierce Brosnan ones, which I think people say are the worst ones, which I look at those through rosy-colored glasses. I enjoyed most of those, even though they might be bad movies. I watched a good amount of the Connery ones. Beyond that, I haven't seen much, no. Okay. All right, that's pretty good then. You haven't seen The Man with the Golden Gun? Roger Moore? No, I haven't seen any of the Roger Moore ones, no. A lot of old heads tell me Roger Moore was the man, but I don't think I've seen any of those. I like Connery the best, but my favorite one is The Man with the Golden Gun. So, let's add that to the list. You can sit through Thunderball and not freak out about the graphics, Rudy? I mean, it's been a while since I've seen. I probably saw them in high school, but. What about Goldfinger? You weren't kind of like, that laser wouldn't work. Yeah, I probably was a little bit mouthy about that, but you know. Connery's so cool, though. I thought Die Another Day was a good movie, so. Yeah, Connery-Costner tier? Connery had some rough. Rough interviews, I think. Connery, I don't think Costner's ever had any of those. I just think of his cousin. Different times, better times. So, you would smack her, and you do think it's okay. He's like, well, if she needs to get the last word in, it's like. Oh, I didn't know we were doing the bit right now. I just like him as James Bond, okay? Me too. Yeah, it's not a bigger statement in life, exactly. This is crazy. It's so crazy, I don't even know if it's true or not, but whatever, we're going for it. 56170, Player Comp, Joachim Noah. Nick's era, Steve Blake, 6'2", 169. That's a lot of words and numbers, I'm losing it. Yeah, Player Comp, Ben Simmons, personality with Andrew Bynum's streaks. A lot in there, buddy, a lot. All right, so we have a friend who grew up with one of the actors publicly listed as a potential James Bond. Last week, he told us it was a lock, and that the friend had signed the contract, and there was a party that evening to celebrate. This friend had no incentive. He told us not to tell anyone. We subsequently went and bet a grand each on the actor, as well as telling five people each, too. As the days have gone by, and new rumors swirl, our friend with the information has gone ghost. The friends who took our inside info are starting when the news is coming out, or starting to ask when the news is coming out. There's some stuff missing from this, especially because the only news coming out is about other actors getting involved. What do we do? Do we buy out and take the loss or hold strong? Do we tell the truth? Do we tell the friend who gave us the info about the situation he put us in, even though he specifically told us not to tell anyone? Well, how much research did you do? Like, what's your friend's track record? One. No incentive to lie thing is silly. My buddy that goes to another school is going to be the next James Bond? That's a fucking sick thing to lie about, first of all. Yeah, that is. The incentive isn't zero. It's weird to do, but the incentive is not zero. And by the way, where is the guy from? Because if it's not a British guy or an Australian guy, it's going to be a problem. Yeah. You asked no other questions, too? Like, there was no other, like, how do you know this? Do you have a buddy? Reacher's in the mix? I didn't realize that. I'd never heard. I didn't think he would get it. He's so tall. It's up to you. I mean, you don't have to go to him and say, hey, I told all these other people. I don't think you have to out yourself quite yet, but you need to. You need to be like, we need an update. You need a hard inquiry on this to figure this thing out. But I don't know why. You have to tell me more about, like, we don't have enough information. What's this friend's track record with this kind of stuff? Yeah. Has he, like, predicted popes in the past? Like, what is there? Is this, like, a Nostradamus situation? Like, I think it's fair to just ask him a question and be like, hey, dude, like, what's the deal? Like, you don't have to tell him all the shit that you got into, but, like, when's this coming out? Like, what's going on? Like, I thought this was done and dusted. Well, I think you can sign the deal before, you know, Amazon knows it now. Like, they might not put anything out until they're, you know, forward in the process just because they picked the guy, right? So wait, that Callum Turner guy has not been. I thought I read something that he was, but I guess not. I've jumped the gun a couple times on Bond. I forget who they were over the. But I, like, talk myself into guys that never got announced. Because I thought it was supposed to be he was going to be Bond and then Margaret Qualley was going to be the. I read that somewhere, but, you know, listen. Well, I thought it was, as of right now, because I looked it up this morning, it's the White Horses guy. Is it Jack? Is it Loudon or. Slow Horses. Oh, what did I say? White Horses? White Horses, yeah. Do it again. No, that's a good fix. Slow Horses, which is a great show. It is a good show. It is, yeah. Oldman's the fucking man in that. He's the man in everything he does. Yeah. I don't know if he's ever got an LSU game, but. I'm going to find some more Oldman movies because I think a lot of. Oldman's a. He said, I haven't seen. Professional? Some of these markets, though. Put some on the list. Nope, haven't seen that. You've never seen The Professional? Nope. You have the rest of the day off. Awesome. Hell yeah. Wait, there's some prediction market stuff here, though. Like, Robert Pattinson is second? That's insane. He's never going to be Bond. Is it Loudon or Loudon? I don't want to get. I don't want to do a library here. I don't know. I don't know. Well, I named the wrong show, so I should just tap out of this segment altogether. He seems a little small. I don't. Yeah, I have to say, I don't love that. And I like him in the show, but yeah, I don't. I think the problem. People want the unknown, right? So. Because that worked so well with. Would you say Craig was unknown before Casino Royale? He was a little off the grid. Well, he was in, like, what? Lockstock and all that, wasn't he? Wasn't he in all those, like. He's been in some stuff. He might have been in one of those, Richie's, but he wasn't, like. I don't think he was in, you know, a recurring guy. No, there was a different movie that he was in. Was it Pound Cake or something? Yep. That was one that I didn't see until After came out, and it was only because, like, I think. Hey, your boy's in this, but. I love that you just called Daniel Craig your boy. Defiance, but I think that was after Bond, so I don't know. Also, maybe Aaron Taylor Johnson. I like that guy, but I guess he's not on the. He's not in the running anymore. Yeah, that's a guy I talk myself into, and then he's not going to do it, so. Whatever, I'll just wait. I don't want to be on the inside track, honestly. The movie's Layer Cake, so I'm on fucking fire. Layer Cake. Yes, what did you say? White horse is in Pound Cake? Pound Cake. The Drake song. Yeah, they're going to Drake again. It's a great song. All right, that'll do it for the show. Thanks to Tom, Kevin, Saruti, and Kyle. All of our episodes are available on Netflix. Please subscribe to The Ryan Russillo Show. Barstool Sports. We'll see you next time.