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Rub those. Yeah. All right. We're live. And we're live after the Indiana Hoosiers win the National Championship 27-21. In case you have been under a rock for the last two years, the Indiana Hoosiers have just won the national title. I'm going to say, holy shit. Holy shit. The Indiana Hoosiers have just won the national championship. I want everybody to stop and appreciate that for a second. Because for all the hating I did over the last couple of years, we have long complained about college football. It's always Alabama, Ohio State, everybody. Amazing. Amazing, amazing, amazing. And I can't see Big F and T-Bob. I'm going to trust they're there somewhere. I know you're here. Amazing, Casey. It's unreal. And I know leading up to this, there was a lot of conversations on is it the best turnaround in sports history? I do believe that it is. Maybe I'm a little bit biased because I am a college football fan and I love college football more than any other sport. But Liam Blutman, this is really fucking cool for Indiana. And that game rocks so much. We finally got a good, like a legit good national championship game that came down to the wire. It couldn't have ended in a more fitting way than Carson Beck. Failing to throw a ball accurately, like downfield, just no arm strength. Thank goodness he doesn't actually have to go class tomorrow, go to class tomorrow. Indiana, Kurt Signet just played dynasty mode for four or five years, just ran the table, did what we dreamed about doing when we were kids, young adults, playing in our living room, just playing as a football. Unbelievable. We've been here watching it, T-Bob. I know you and Big F watched it along with us. You run out of superlatives to talk about Signetti and everything, but just on a larger scale, what did we just fucking see? Yeah, the culmination of, as you kind of alluded to, Brandon Casey, the culmination of one of the wilder sports stories of our time, like maybe the wildest college football story that we've ever seen, almost assuredly so. But I would extend that to anywhere. Again, I've used this reference, it's like Leicester City winning the EPL, but maybe even weirder in some ways. In some ways. The game itself, that was a true championship team there, right? Three phases of the game, their best stuff wasn't working, finding ways to adjust. And I just love most of the decisions that Signetti made. But I loved it. Did y'all hear the explanation of his fourth and five after the game, the draw? No, we came straight in here. It was, and we're going to talk about that call. I figured. I figured. So he basically, he basically said that they put that call in for this game alone because of how, how Miami had responded to that formation in the past. And so right there in the biggest moment, you see Signetti's genius, which is combined with all the other disparate elements to create this super team that are the 2026 Indiana Hoosiers. They're just so complete, so tough, could not be more impressed. And look, I'm going to say, Brandon, like, I don't, you know, I get a lot of shit wrong. Everybody gets a lot of shit wrong, a lot of shit right. I don't want to be like, but I feel like we, we had this game nailed to a wall here. We said this Miami team was particularly well-suited to squaring up with Indiana, to maybe stopping what they do best. So they could stop Indiana from running the ball effectively. And you saw that this Indiana offense was stymied, but the defense played well, special teams came through in the huge touchdown. And then in the biggest moments, another thing we talked about Mendoza clearly better than Beck. Beck had his $4 million drive, but in the biggest moments, Mendoza consistently made the plays. And when Beck was presented, the same opportunity at the end of the game, he did not. The Indiana Hoosiers are national champions and like undoubted, deserved, undisputed national champions of 2026. Yeah. 16 and 0. They go through Ohio state. They go through Oregon. They go through Alabama. It wasn't very good, but they've owned the sport for a while. They go through now Miami. Big Ev, third straight year, third straight big 10 champion. We'll get to that later. That's what we're going to talk about next. We'll talk about that later. That's it's that great and i'll talk about something that t-bob said at the end these teams were very evenly matched yeah the difference was the quarterback play and beck had a overall a decent game like he made some big throws in some big spots but i mean just every time indiana needed one a third down in credit to the receiver which obviously beck or becker made some big-time catches but mendoza's made big-time throw after big-time throw when they needed it the fourth down call the run i mean the way cignetti set it up like he knew they're going to be pinning their ears back middle is going to part like the red sea like it's just the preparation it's you knew we knew we said indiana's not going to make a mistake in miami limited the mistakes but it was the block punt and the interception at the end and that was the difference in the game all right and the wrinkle there real quick we're going to add context what ev's talking about the wrinkle there on the qb draw what cignetti specifically talked about is it's just qb draw but how they blocked it was different than how they blocked it and it was different than how they blocked it all year long and it was specifically because they perfectly predicted how miami would attack it at the biggest moment of the game it's just flawless fucking execution i and how about mendoza's toughness dude i'm scared uh a little we kind of just reduced it to mendoza outplaying carson beck and i and i'm not sure that's the entire story of this game i think carson beck outside that last throw really played a gutsy second half mendoza played a gutsy second half but like mendoza was a good guy and he was a good guy and he was a good guy and he was a good guy shaking at times early by the miami defense yeah ultimately that block punt how big is that fucking block punt like it was a three that's the game the three-point game the block punt the the i don't know that on the whole mendoza played this incredible heisman game but in the moments in the moments where your guy had to be your guy mendoza was the guy like it was it was like he was he was facing a relentless pass rush a very good defense it was tough sledding for at times but then there were like five key moments tonight and he aced every single one of them and carson beck aced most of them and he didn't make the last one yes but like but like liam said the difference that was the perfect way for that game to end if you've been like a back and forth person on carson beck i i disagree with what liam's saying that too you started the whole show saying carson beck predictably threw the i thought he fought his ass off tonight man he did but i think he did it he did but for the game to end that way when you talk about these two quarterbacks and going into it and you talk about the block punt too we everybody in the country said when you go to this game and i thought it was going to be a blowout it wasn't liam thought the same thing but it was if miami makes any type of mistakes and a block punt is not necessarily a mistake at all but indiana is going to capitalize oh it's a big mistake but i'm saying it's not like obviously it was also credit to indiana as well yeah so you know it was a mistake but indiana caused it so i think that when you look at the narratives of these two teams it played out almost exactly how so many people thought it would be whether you thought it was going to be closer or not because indiana capitalized on miami's mistakes and then carson carson beck does what carson beck does when they lose and that's turn the ball over again i hate ending it with that i thought everything you said was perfectly i i but when they lost this year it's because he turns the ball over i i i just i just feel like we just saw an all-time classic and i don't want to end it with the button of carson beck oh he played it he played us he was super gutsy i i didn't mean to make it so much about it was it was more me as well it was more just the slim margins like yes it was you said brandon like it was that mendoza made every big play in every big moment and beck just didn't make one play and that and that was really the game uh let's talk about the moments though the moments are what really stands out and and t-bob you you kind of went right to it but like i don't remember what the score was when the fourth and five happened 27 21 no no i know the score final score i don't know what the score was when was it 17 14 it's 17 14 you're in the fourth quarter it is clear miami has gotten up off the mat and they are fighting they are fighting they are fighting they've been down uh they've been down 10 a couple of times the block punt which would have taken out a lot of lesser teams they would have taken out and miami fought right back and all they had to do was kind of get the ball back and get momentum but indiana would never give them the air to breathe they would never give them the chance to really win the football game until the very end uh in that last two minute drive but like that fourth and five you can kick a field goal and go up 20 to 14 and be up six and trust your defense but kirk cennetti wins google him and he and he and he's a fucking chest thumper and he's a fucking believer in his guys and he said god damn it i got the heisman winner we're gonna call this play and and as as brilliant as the call was and i think it was great call i think it pales in comparison to the individual effort for mendoza who who has the patience to follow his blocks in there makes a beautiful little madden side shuffle juke to the right has the clear lane toughs it out gets the end zone i thought it was a heisman winner saying by the way i'm the fucking heisman winner and i'm about to win a national title and the way that and just to clarify that and ev said it perfectly it's the margin it's not to say that carson beck had a bad game and that's why they lost it's to say that in those moments carson beck did things that people have predicted and fernando mendoza did the opposite of that and did those big moments it's why he won the heisman trophy when he stretches across the goal line and you just know it's going to be that's the snapshot right that's on the front everybody looks at and i mean ev you you we talked about indiana when they played ohio state it was like they just they play perfect football and there was multiple times tonight where miami was getting to fernando and it just didn't ever really shake him it just never never took him off his game and that's the difference in these two teams well they looked i mean miami did have him i mean again the indiana offense looked more fallible than we've seen it thus far right like we knew about the eight touchdowns to five incompletions like if you look at mendoza's final stat line you never guess that we would be glazing him as hard as we are here uh because it was it was it was again like it was in the big moments that you had to make a play and brandon you think about that for the five to draw you know like you said the juke running over diving across the end zone putting his body on the line john elway in the super bowl style back in the day but also there was the fourth and five earlier in the drive and you want to talk about pushing your chips to the center of the table signetti called two timeouts on that drive like they were all in dude all of a situation where you do not have the lead and you've wasted those timeouts in those manners it's kind of like what the fuck are we doing dude and so and so to have the balls to to go all in to go for it to make the correct call and then for your guy to execute it it's just it's why they're national champs it's why kurt signetti just led the most um fantastical turnaround that we've ever seen in in in college football history what happens when you lock 18 co-workers in an office for one week to compete for a quarter million dollars of cash this is surviving barstool season five presented by rumble premium each episode released three hours early so get it ad free before anyone else only when you join rumble premium surviving barstool premieres sunday august 9th at 5 p.m on rumble premium and everywhere else at 8 p.m i think the two most important men in winning this game tonight were fernando mendoza and kurt signetti but i think we should also point out number three does anybody know who number three is gonna be it rhymes it's got to be charlie b from nashville i was like becker surely doesn't rhyme those those two catches those two back shoulder catches uh on on big third and it was one we're both on third down one was four no it was four and five and fourth and five yeah third and five and fourth and five and both times they go to the back shoulder the first time he makes a ridiculous the body control he has to kind of like sit down in the chair and just reach down and get it fall to the ground the first time he makes a ridiculous the body control he has to kind of like sit down and get it fall to the ground the second one the coverage is good and and he just kind of fights through it he's being held and uh a quick shout out to the refs they let him fucking play tonight yeah they let him play i i i thought they they there were a lot of calls where you're like that you know in the nfl yesterday that's pass interference but it was both ways they let them go they let them figure this shit out so i i want to give them a shout out but charlie b from nashville tennessee t-bop yeah i mean he he was he was just again he had the moments but then you and then you know the the running back combo of him and black they they were solid um uh sir rotten cooper had some big conversions as well but nobody as big as charlie b and the and and i it's interesting part of the restaurant i completely agree and if you if we remember back to earlier in the game they had a couple of those back shoulders that didn't work because of how handsy miami was uh able to be and so to still trust your guys to go out there and execute when it already hadn't worked a couple of times that's because of how handsy miami was able to be and so to still trust your guys to go out there and i don't think we can get any further in this show without just celebrating the overall quality of the trenches on both sides for both teams indiana's somehow like they're fucking crazy undersized yet deadly effective front that somehow manages to shut down the run and play very effective zone pass coverage at the same time it kind of boggles my mind miami's offensive line clearing the way for fletcher to make that a game and getting that offense going and sticking to the identity that fletcher and fletcher and fletcher and fletcher and fletcher indiana's offensive line closing out the game nearly then almost blown to the false start but just quality offensive and defensive line play like like two big fucking heavyweights and this is really the entire game as a whole but just trading blows man body blows good combinations just the sweet science of football was on display tonight yeah it really was and it was a uh it was a lackluster first half as they were kind of feeling each other out and everything and and indiana had the one drive uh which which ended in the touchdown miami you know let's go for the 50 yard field goal at the end of the first half i thought that was a questionable decision after they went for fourth and one at their own 35 showing desperation showing we're going to win this game and then getting to the other 35 and being like ah we're good we're just going to try to kick it with our kicker who's like half 50 from this distance um that but that was that that's a minor nitpick nitpick because i i truly believe um the crystal the crystal ball doubters and the haters and the crystal ball he has done things in the past to make you question him i guess this team was uh you know what 40 yards short of a national title tonight this this team was yeah was he put this team together uh with the right mix of defensive and offensive line talent he went out and got a veteran quarterback who did fall short in the end but like i you know crystal ball's got that thing humming again and they they play for a national title so i i thought he did a great job tonight and everything else uh what else uh casey you want another piece of business oh you can do a piece of business stella blue coffee's new can lattes are here crafted with 100 colombian coffee each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream and whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup stella blue cans are for those always on the go and for those who care stella blue is more than just great coffee it's about giving back i named the brand after my rescue dog stella who inspired our mission to help more dogs find their forever homes every purchase supports animal rescue organizations so when you drink stella blue you're not just fueling your day you're saving a dog's life try the new cans today taste the difference and make a difference all new stella blue coffee canned lattes now available at stella blue coffee.com or subscribe on amazon for 10 off or really quickly liam we were talking about this early in the game too you go back to charlie becker he had those amazing catches and that's obviously the story of the game but he also had some drops early in the game and he was able to early in the game that were a little bit concerning eliza surratt's drop surratt's drops yeah surratt's drop was crazy that felt really ominous at the time yeah wrong guy wrong guy there there was something weird about that in the first half with indiana's offense and it wasn't charlie it was surratt but what do you think was it just nerves like it was very bizarre there was one where he dropped it twice how they uncharacter uncharacteristically made three or four kind of big mistakes where did that come from maybe it was nerves well i mean the reason i ask you is you and i were the ones that were so sure that it was nerves was going to be a blowout because I didn't expect things like that to happen. And when Surratt did dropped the ball twice, it's like, oh, holy shit, this team is beatable. I'd like to just point out, I think some of the offensive line mistakes can be pointed at the fact that they were blocking a raging wall of werewolves for the entire night. Yes, yes, yeah. Like, it was kind of a result of some of the pressure that Miami was applying in a lot of ways. Can I shout out a Miami player real quick? Because everybody talks about Bain. Yeah, I think I got a question for you. Bain and Mesidor, 99 tonight. Moten, I believe he was hurt in the Ole Miss game. The defensive tackle, he was Warren Sapp for much of that game. He was un-fucking-believable. Now, what's your question? Okay, so I agree with you, and I'm sure you can go and find some stuff, but I don't have any major Cristobal decisions that I disagree with, really. How did you feel about Cignetti kicking that field goal at the end? I would have gone for it. I would have gone for a kill. Okay, okay. That sucks. That's what I'm kind of wanting to take the temperature of the room, because obviously, like, who am I to question Cignetti? But it does seem like, with the consistency and trusting his Heisman guy to make the play when they needed it, it felt a little inconsistent to kick the field goal then to leave it in the defense's hands and not let Mendoza go to it. Now, obviously, I was wrong, right? Because look at what ended up happening. Cignetti was right. I just, at the time, I thought that was a bit interesting for Cignetti to go away from trusting Mendoza when he had every single time up to that point. Well, I think if you're. Kurt Cignetti, you trust Fernando Mendoza 100%. I think you probably also trust your defense 100%. You trust that Miami has to go 80 yards, 75 yards. It ended up being 80 after the penalty. 80 yards in a minute and 45 seconds with no timeouts with a quarterback who is prone to making mistakes. And the defense bent a little bit. They bent a little bit. Then they dummied him into throwing, thinking he had single coverage on the outside. And the guy just sank back in and caught the ball. So, I think he probably did trust his quarterback. But trusting the defense worked out, too. Yeah, fair. I think it was like 4th and 2, 4th and 3 probably goes for it. Yeah. Yeah, maybe 5 is a little too long. 5 or 6 is tough to go for it again. Like you said, you're going to make the kick. You believe in your kicker. Make him go, yeah, 80 yards in a minute 40. You're thinking they're going to make a mistake. I give a lot of credit to Cristobal. I mean, the adjustments offensively, man, in the second half, were incredible. Yeah. I mean, they got shut out in the first half, and they put together three really nice scoring drives. Yeah, against a defense that doesn't give up scoring drives. Yeah, I thought after the punt block, they got the ball back, and their offensive coordinator just all of a sudden started getting in his bag. Drawing up, you know, getting Tony on one side of the field with one guy on him. Getting, you know, the touchdown, the second touchdown to Fletcher, where they faked the toss to Tony and just slid him in and trapped him into the inside. Unbelievable. I thought Shannon Dawson. I criticized. I criticized. I criticized. I even tweeted he was the weakest part of the game, and then all of a sudden it flipped, and he really figured it out. Well, the way they came out of the locker room at halftime, you know, and they stopped Indiana right away. Twice. Yeah, right away. Because of the face mask, yeah. And coming out of the locker room, I mean, again, if you were on Indiana, you're like, okay, the first drive of this half is really going to set the tone, and the way that Miami came out was unbelievable. So, you know, a lot of credit to Miami, and you talk about, you know, Malachi, Tony, and Fletcher. Like, the individual guys are so talented, and this roster. I mean. I mean, you go back, and I have no recollection of exactly what happened to Louisville in the SMU game, because it feels like it was 10 years ago with how much break we've had other than the turnovers. But it's like, how did this talented of a team even lose two games in the regular season and not play for the ACC championship? I know it doesn't matter now, because we're turning the page to the next season, but this team is really, really good. Indiana just happened to be a little bit better and make less mistakes. Well, I think we can learn some interesting things about college football from this year's Miami team, and kind of the new era of college football. Where, because you have more margin of error now, teams are allowed to kind of find themselves. And if you look at the two Miami losses, penalties were a massive part, right? And even tonight, they had some penalties that ended up hurting them. Like, on the 85-yard touchdown drive Indiana had, they had a couple that helped to extend that drive. But it was also, at the time, Miami thought they were like a deep ball offense. Like, they thought, okay, we paid Carson Beck, we got these great receivers, we're going to rely on him to bomb it like they did in that Notre Dame game. And they had to learn the hard lesson. The lesson of, no, our actual identity, we're a road grader. Like, we need to run the ball and play great defense. And when they did that, that's when they truly became the team that they always could be. So, it's kind of interesting to think about maybe some hope that you can carry forward as a college football fan, that, like, your team can make some mistakes, but maybe there is a deeper identity, a more winning identity to be found through the course of the season. And nowadays, if you're good enough, you can maybe get back to fight for a national championship. The reason I stopped, I stopped you earlier, Big Ev, on the Big Ten talk. I wanted to have it here, and I wanted to have it in this conversation, in this context. I think, I even think, simplifying this to saying Indiana is the third straight Big Ten team to win it, three in a row for the conference, is even oversimplifying it and really doing a disservice to how fucking amazing and unbelievable it is that Indiana did this. The Big Ten did not win tonight. Indiana, the worst team in the history of college football, they had not had a 10-win season, in their history until last year. They go to the playoff. They go, they play Ohio State, and they get killed both times. And it doesn't set them back at all. It doesn't, I thought in my mind it would set them back. It would show, okay, well, you guys aren't who you think you are, because when you played a good team, you got killed. They just went and got a better quarterback. They just went and got better at other places. They went and got better at center, which wasn't hard to do. They went and got better at a lot of places. They fixed every little problem. They didn't have big problems. They didn't have big problems at all. But they turned Curtis Rourke into Fernando Mendoza, and they just tweaked it a little bit. They were the number 19 preseason team. I'm not the only one that doubted this team. They were number 19. And Indiana, Indiana winning the Big Ten is a miracle in what we know about Indiana. And now, marching through the playoff the way they did, this is such a bigger story than any conference. I think it's Indiana. Indiana's story and Indiana's story alone, I think a week from now, we can talk about the Big Ten and their dominance and the fact that they're putting the SEC in the rearview mirror. But I just think Indiana is such a remarkable story. And Big F, go with that. I didn't give you any setup or anything. No, I mean, listen, I'll take it deeper than the Big Ten. I think it just clearly shows. We talk about, like, the Lane thing. He's kind of the glaring example right now. You can win anywhere. And that's not to say anyone can't win anywhere. Signetti's a special. Cut from a special cloth. What he's done is special. Not everyone's going to be able to do that. But he's proven that it can be done. And it can be done anywhere in the Power Four. It can clearly be done. If it can be done at Indiana, it can be done anywhere. And I think that should be the biggest takeaway. Because for years, the people that I would talk to that aren't, like, as big into college football as the junkies like we are, the thing is, oh, the same teams win every year. It's always the same. It's BAM. It's Ohio State. It's Georgia. It's LSU. It's whoever. Not anymore. Not anymore. Yeah. There are seats at the table for everyone. It's there to be had. I mean, even look at when you break down even, like, some key members of the team. Serap. Pons. I forget the name of the guy who blocked the punt today. Like, these are guys he brought from JMU. These are JMU kids that are, like, cornerstone pillar pieces of this national title team. There's talent everywhere. If you can find them, develop them, you can win anywhere. I think that's even the bigger story than the Big Ten thing. Yeah. I mean, I finished the – episode that we did last week, the preview, and I know Brandon and T-Bob, you guys had to go, and it was the very end, but it was – and we talked about just that, and that's why it is so much of an indication on how good of a coach Kurt Cignetti really is. Because not only did Indiana turn around in two seasons, but the formula and everything that has been mentioned, you have to go into the transfer portal and find these guys. You have to get NIL support to get behind them. Then you have to put them all together on a roster and really develop them well very quickly to turn around. And then, of course, you have to go into the transfer portal and the fact that he could do it at Indiana is just absolute proof that it can be done quite literally anywhere in the Power Four. It does not have to be at a Blue Blood or a brand name, and that's why when we look at all the landscape changes of college football in this era, Kurt Cignetti will be talked about forever. Because, you know, you talk about coaches and how quickly they turn around programs and they get these recruiting classes and whatever. He turned around the worst program in history at Indiana in two seasons because of the formula that he was able to put together in this new era. Well, not only that, but – but, like, he's just got Josh Hoover waiting in the wings from TCU. Yes. He's got Nick Marsh, the receiver from Michigan State. Like, he's just – if you think that Indiana's boosters were investing before, Mark Cuban might spend all night just writing checks. In his own shark tank. That was the other thing, Brandon, is that, like, Indiana might be the most sleepiness, the most sleeping giant that we've ever seen in the sports history, because of how large their alumni base is, right? Anytime you have that many people that went to the school, that's a giant bake roll from which to pull, especially because you're going to have a lot of rich ones. And now you have the billionaire. Like, you have Mark Cuban fully bought in. What do you need nowadays in college football? You need a billionaire. So, yes, Indiana, this is not a fluke. They are set up for sustained success. Brandon, if I wanted to engage with the Big Ten thing, I would say that it is impressive that it's been three different teams in three consecutive years. Yeah. Like, that does speak to – just some overall. conference strength in in my opinion yeah it certainly does and and like with more there that could do it like Oregon could do it like they're these aren't the only three that could do it Penn State could do it eventually like like they that's the one thing about the SEC's run over 20 years where people acted like it was just Alabama Georgia Florida won a couple LSU won a couple uh Auburn won one like it was five Georgia got a couple yeah it was six teams or whatever it was and now the Big Ten team it's one thing of Ohio State rips off three in a row that just means Ohio State's elite but the fact that Ohio State does it Michigan does it Indiana does it and again like I said Oregon's on deck to do it uh and it's just it's a hell of a conference at the top and it's it's it's it's a new world in college football and the Big Ten is leading us into it but doesn't it feel so much weirder to say they're leading at the top with Indiana like how like how soon is this really going to sink in because if it was Penn State this year hypothetically like yeah okay three different teams but it's Penn State you know Penn State's really good they've got everybody it's like I don't know when it's going to feel super normal to be like wow the Big Ten is leading the charge and Indiana's the national champion that is so weird go ahead I don't think it'll ever feel normal I think we'll look back in 40 years and just be like we were alive in our prime to see Indiana of all programs dominate the college football scene I I like I'm that's not to say they're not gonna have success in the future of course they are it's just such a like you're saying it's so jarring and unexpected and comically whimsy and fictional like 40 years from now yeah we're gonna look back on the wikipedia of who won a title and just be like that was that was one of the craziest things we've ever seen we're not gonna see anything like this ever again well and and and so Chad is talking about the age of the players and I think that's important I don't care no no no stop stop listen listen Indiana's not older than Miami Miami's average starting age is older than that of Indiana they were both old uh every team in this playoff was pretty much old my point is as much as we bitch about NIL one thing it does it keeps guys in college did y'all see the number of early entrants to the draft it was like 40 something a few years ago it was over 130 so like for better or worse talented players are staying throughout their entire career in college which means you get more high executing very uh entertaining football like quality football like you saw tonight like I think that's a a benefit of the NIL era is that talent can actually uh come back to school and continue to develop because they're making money now also I just don't I agree like I don't care because that is the formula like everybody can go out and do it every single coach in America can go out and get a quote older roster if they want Kurt Cignetti just was able again to get that formula and put it together and I do think that it's weird when you hear Carson Beck sitting up there and being like well I graduated two years ago I don't have to go to class like yeah that's bizarre but the same way that people are like well you know college athletes shouldn't be paid because it's supposed to be college well it's a business now we know that you're gonna have to just get over it but it's not just Indiana Indiana just did it the best this year so any coach can go do that and to go out and get a one-year quarterback every year that's allowed now that's the formula that we're seeing work that's just kind of the way the cookie crumbles get over it they spelled their uniform four years ago as Indinia did you see and they just won national I saw I saw a picture of what was the Twitter picture said it was a picture of Cignetti's first game in Indiana yeah it was empty it was just it was flat out empty it's amazing I gotta see this it's amazing by the way deserve this as a but they got it anyway Blutman show them the shirt that you have on right now uh store.barcelosports.com I've got the new hoodies on as well all the all the merges out there I have to ask you Blutman I know you've brought this up a few times over the over the the season remember last year when you were like nine Windiana yeah he was the first one on it and then you jumped off I did I wouldn't say jumped off I would say I was you kind of did I I was cautious and yeah but I didn't I should have gone full speed ahead I should have gotten I should have Georgia drove you were the first one uh all right listen to this hurts trust Casey trust me it hurts a little it's just uh okay so it doesn't say it in the ad but we're gonna be doing this with DraftKings yes Stella Blue coffee ready to drink can lattes are officially available nationwide at Target that's right whether you're making a Target run for toothpaste 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State plus 700 to win the national title Texas plus 750 to win the national title Notre Dame 750 Oregon 850 Georgia 900 LSU fighting Tigers plus 1,200 Texas Tech plus 1,400 A&M plus 1,800 16 yeah you got to put your glasses on big boy I have dyscalculia too it's okay she's right Texas A&M plus 1,600 uh Alabama plus 1,800 Miami of Florida plus 2,000 USC plus 3,500 Oklahoma 3,500 Michigan 4,000 Ole Miss 4,000 Florida 5,000 Utah 6,000 Tennessee 6,000 own and on and on and on t-bob who would you pick right now you know what just say it so we can move on I hear the train coming what did Gruden say trains coming down that's right baby the lane train I wasn't wrong Brandon I was just early when I chose LSU to win the natty this year okay because everybody knows Sam Levitt Lane Kiffin and the LSU Tigers are going to be lifting that national championship trophy in 2026. Are y'all all going to do this uh big F yes what a dumb question I got your pick yeah Brandon yeah it's the Ohio State Buckeyes seven to one who else would it be Casey's back going in the portal rebuilding the defense high level veterans safeties interior d-line bringing some pass rushers back Jeremiah Smith back and I'm going to go with the Ohio State Buckeyes seven to one Casey Smith well Brandon if I wouldn't get us kicked off of YouTube I would take off this lovely uh sweatshirt right here to reveal a maroon and white sports bra under here and I'm going to show everybody right here my little Aggie ring with the diamonds I'm going to take Texas A&M plus 1600 Mike Elko listen everybody wanted to shit all over Marcel Reed what did we talk about guys when they're a little bit older they have all that experience they look a little bit better Marcel Reed with another offseason you're going to get better on defense you're going to get weapons again to get Marcel give me plus 1600 to fight in Texas Aggies William Blutman you're telling me do it I could put 10 buckaroos to win 6,000 smackers on the new JMU hype train the UCLA Bruins if I could I'd run I'd sprint to the web studio to get my UCLA helmet and really immerse like our friends but no uh I'm split between Texas and Georgia uh I'm eager to see what Georgia does like who Georgia was just just make a pick just make a Texas Texas is disgusting I think LSU's gonna land seed in but but Texas with with Goosby and the receivers that they've got and Arch really did develop at the end of the year and got looking like he's scary Texas Texas Texas Sarks last ride question mark question mark question mark it's never too early for me to beef with Liam about A&M apparently all right so uh let's uh let's move on wait who's your pick what's Mississippi State's odds I didn't scroll that far um I actually I if I were just picking from those favorites right there I I kind of agree with Liam I think next year is a nasty nasty bunch of Texas Longhorns uh now now as I say that I say that like it's wide open like uh Ohio State they're still by the way I know we got through this portal but there's there's still gonna be some changes the summer that changed things and all who knows but as of right now I like Texas at plus 750 but Ohio State's probably a good pick uh I do hate the A&M pick if I'm being honest and I you know I hate the LSU to pick too because uh you know he he runs his mouth a lot but he ain't ever won shit so fuck him go ahead listen it's never too early to talk about your team everybody wants to to bitch and moan when your teams are good but you know what if there's a time to talk about your team it's right now it's a new season talk about Mississippi State ring that cowbell so uh I want to ask you guys a question I'm going to ask you guys a question I'm going to ask you guys a question question uh as we celebrate indiana winning the national title and i and i i didn't see anything in the post game whether signetti said something amazing fernando mendoza did his politician speech or whatever apparently fernando said something sucks yeah he was awesome dude i and i love what do you say i don't i haven't seen it because we came right in here but every single post i'm seeing is that he might have said something a little bit that everybody paused at what did he say uh let me find this kate excel brang with the boys he i i mean the quote that i think about with fernando mendoza post game he said look i'll die for those boys out there on the field and they'll die for me and that's why we're national champions and he said it as his like face is bleeding which is his arm is just one giant bruise i mean again we we can't get out of here without without again highlighting and celebrating the toughness of fernando mendoza that fucking chin shot that he took early on yeah that the rest let him take extending the fake like okay dude that was and i liked it from miami that's good shit like i don't even care if they throw the flag you want to fucking get after that guy and make him feel you and they did but whether it was ohio state this game whenever mendoza's gotten beat up probably not as much as tonight but he's got beat up all year long he's always come back strong what's big i've listened to mendoza say that he'll take shots from the front or the back whatever he needs to do it's so it's at the very beginning of the quote even think about it like that yeah well we're all very we're all very perverted around here but it's at the beginning that you said but i the first thing that i saw was our main account on twitter that said fernando mendoza said what in all caps so yeah it's that's what i was listening to listen you know what i love him he can do no wrong okay but i do agree that the the shot of him bleeding and you said it when we were in the cave like in that moment that's a champion shot that's yeah you're like that happened in the first fucking drive i know and i knew as soon as he fucking got bloodied i was like and they showed him up close i was like god damn it that's a national champion shot right he did the juxtaposition of just like the body language too and i understand it was close to the end of the game and and and i again i'm very pro crying you want to cry cry like i i love it but you said it at the same time i did carson beck looked like he was about to sob on the sideline well at second at second one he realized it was over indiana was about to get a first down in the game i think he was crying and then that false start happened he stood up and went and got his chin strap on and and got ready and and and so a little fight and that's the end of the game drive he just made the one bad mistake but i i'm okay with that i'm just saying that you never saw fernando mendoza even remotely like when he was on the sidelines every time they showed him he had the bloody lip and he's just smiling like there's just something about in fairness he never had a chance to think he was about to lose like like that carson beck was was facing his mortality there and fernando mendoza for their credit never i want to end this show with two questions we'll go around uh you have two more and t-bob has one as well good god how many we got hey listen it's the end of college football season we got to pay the bills hopefully can't get anything in this got 30 well that's because people are listening tonight i'll go ahead i'll go ahead and do mine then yeah fellas you already know what time it is it's time to level up and blue true just dropped something crazy i'm talking next level championship belt gold plated energy blue true gold is a new innovation from the number one chewable ed brand this ain't your grandpa's little blue pill this is the four in one beast that's hitting the gold standard for performance we're talking two ingredients for blood flow to keep that rocket pumping mixed with amphibian morphine and oxytocin to turn up the 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at the field like he just played in it like you know how you know how i play like confetti's raining down the one guy always stands out there to stare at it and to make it hurt i think he was doing that did he have his belt in hand um it's a sad little limp belt oh he did swing at him oh by the way and and boy tyreek tucker ran like tyreek tucker wanted none of that in in tucker's defense it was a bad recipe i wonder what he what he what he said i would back up that nobody said oh oh i would say does luki know i don't care do we know if kate drank tonight all right i will say if he did or not he was dialed i know it's his former team he's locked that he he knows the draw is coming there that was one of the gutsiest draw calls we'll ever see he called the fullback bloomington looks crazy i will say that all of they knew the fullback dive to noakowski all all of kate x text messages were very coherent yeah they did not they did not seem uh and also shout out white boy rick um him having the the photo of his mom was a really cool moment college football is the fucking best that's nice that's good it is it's the best oh i'm gonna i'm gonna end the show with two questions and it's the show's not about to end immediately because these two questions will have long answers and if i think of a third question i'll ask it my first question is this the 2025 indiana hoosiers will be remembered for what and how you guys work on that question um i'll i'll answer it first just to get the ball rolling um i think this is one of the most remarkable teams we've ever seen in our lives um they were as far as football execution goes as close to perfect as we're going to see they have a lot of fourth and fifth year guys they identified that as what could be a strength they weren't going to get right from the rip the five-star studs that oregon ohio state alabama and georgia get signetti knows that so he went and got his jmu guys he went and got guys like his jmu guys he got fourth and fifth they are the epitome of the brand new era of college football omiss is a part of it texas tech is part of it if you get the right guy and invest invest invest you can win and this is the year that indiana truly showed the rest of the world you can't anybody anybody can win in college football now the problem is there's probably only one kurt signetti out there who's actually capable of doing it but indiana 2025 showed that it is possible you don't have to have one of eight logos on your chest you don't have to have one of eight logos on your chest you don't have to have to do this that's what indiana will be remembered for in my mind t-bob what do you got yeah i mean and keep with that theme brandon kind of um uh erasing the excuses right a lot of times uh whenever whenever you're failing at something you can look to others and be like oh well look they can't do it either and only this guy can do it and he can only do it because look how good he is so like indiana's not just teaching college football lessons he's teaching us lessons and they are teaching us lessons for life that like don't don't don't let whatever the expectation that has been set before you define you you can overcome you can outperform you can do a better job than what people believe you can do or are telling you that you can do like i i don't care if you're a little kid playing sports i don't care if you're an adult in the workplace a parent whatever the case may be indiana has shown you that these ceilings and limitations that people want to try and put on you they don't matter in light of your actions and it's not to say you're 100 going to succeed but what it is to say is that you should fucking try and you should try everything you do and not just roll over and accept the expectation that's been put on you big f the indiana hoosiers in 2025 i think they're going to represent like a big time run here like i think they're going to be they're going to be the coronation of signetti and i think just considering some of what t-ball was talking about earlier we all have been just the the snowball effect of winning which is the money the mark cubans the power the stability that comes with it and i think that's going to happen and i don't want to get like crazy because obviously he's he has to sustain it but there's he's just everything he's done leads me to believe that he will at least for a significant amount of time and i think he could be like a this is gonna sound nuts almost like uh this is gonna be crazy i it's gonna sound crazy when i said a lot otherwise in my head almost like a bear bryant indiana and like putting them on the map and like a real football power that even think about this as an ohio state fan i'm looking at next year's schedule and i'm like oh my god i'm gonna be like shit we gotta go to indiana early october like that like this is like this is the impact that he's had in this on this school and this this program and i think this is gonna be remembered as the coronation of indiana becoming a legitimate football power for a long long period of time so they have too much muscle they have too much of a of a fan base of like a of a network of school whatever you want to call it too much money behind it that even after signetti like i think they're going to have to go forward and it's all going to be because of this team like this is going to be the team that they're like back on and say this is why in 10, 20 years from now, Indiana is still one of the, like, powerful football programs in America. It's going to be because of this team this season. I think that's really what it's going to represent long-term. I know you just said it sounds crazy, and I know you think it sounds crazy. Two years ago on this night, I come up to you and I say, Big Ev, within two years, Indiana is going to win a national championship. That's the craziest thing you would have ever heard at that point. I laugh in your face. You laugh in my face because I'm just saying stupid bullshit. That's crazy. Casey, the 2025 Indiana Hoosiers. Well, Brandon, we've been doing this podcast together for a long time, and we always do these reactions, and there has never been a feeling of just, like, holy shit, I can't believe what we just watched. Like, yes, the games might have been cool, obviously LSU in 2019, but, like, this is so crazy because it is Indiana, and to just kind of go further on what you guys have said, and Liam sent it in the group text, but Natalie Cignetti, Kurt Cignetti's daughter on December, December 8th, 2019, she tweeted out a text message from her dad. She said, are you happy? And he just said, no. She said, wins first D1 playoff game, scores 66 points, improves to 12-1, and Kurt Cignetti, everyone, and he's just unhappy with that result. And that was seven years ago, right? So this man is showing, you know, that he is, he's not scared of anything. He's not scared of failure. He's not scared of expectations. He's not scared of, you know, you look at last season and you look at the fact that everybody talked about, well, are they appropriate? Are they a product of their, of their schedule? They shouldn't be in the playoff. They're frauds. They go out and they lose the game the way that they did. And then all off season, a lot of people would say, well, maybe we were frauds. Maybe we didn't deserve to be there. And instead over the off season, he faced it head on. He didn't hide. He didn't hide from his consequences of losing that game. He didn't hide from people that he owed explanations to. He just went out there and he was like, fuck this. We're going to put this team together and we're going to keep building. And that's who this man is. So I think that you're going to remember that. And then also Fernando Mendoza. It's going to be hard to look back at this season and not look at Fernando Mendoza and be like that kid was something special and kind of the anti 2025, 2026 social media type of guy. Like this is a guy who people want to say is nerdy, is cheesy. Like, I don't know. What's he going to go do tonight? You're not going to see him spraying bottles of like champagne in the club. I think those are the two main storylines. I think you might. Well, you might, but like, you might, but you know what I'm saying? He's, he's the, he's the anti and I hate to say, but he's like the anti Johnny Manziel, right? You're not going to see this man out. Like if he is having a good time, you know, he wants to go home and he, and he wants to put on his PJs. Love in the 2025 Indiana Hoosiers. A glimmering light of hope for the rest of the college football world who doesn't represent one of the major powers in the sport. Pretty much what you said, but I don't like a beacon of light that you can, you can do it too. Not to bring it back to UCLA, but like I see Indiana, success and I get ridiculously geeked and diluted into thinking my transfer portal class is the next Indiana and that my little program could, could do this too. And like, I don't see how anyone who, everyone who roots for any non big time power is thinking the same thing. If you're a, you know, if you're like a, I don't know, name a school like, um, a wake forest, like you see tonight and you're thinking, you can, you can name any school exactly like Jake Dickert's guys right where we want, man, maybe we could do this too. And that's a special Eric Morris at Oklahoma state. It's a special feeling that I don't think any, anyone has ever actually felt before. And now you feel it all because of Kurt Cignetti, these GMU kids and, and the Indiana football Hoosier. So congrats to them. And you know how much better of a football team you are when, when your guys decides to go to Barstool sports and work there, like you instantly get better. And that picture of Pat Coogan, I just said of Pat Coogan, but you see Kadek and Rick in the background, zoom in on Kadek's face. Look how much this means to this kid. Brandon, I feel I'm like, yeah, good for Kadek and white boy. Of course. Well, like Kadek Kadek was there at Indiana. Down in the dumps year after year. And all of a sudden, you know, how helps Liam to a playoff and everything and gets to see him win the national championship a year later. Like, look how much that means to him and everyone else. Good for them, man. Brandon, what's the quote you you've said for many, many years, the greatest currency in college football. The most, the, the, the, the, the greatest currency in college football is hope. The most abundant is hate, but that currency just got even more, what's the word I'm looking for? Like it's just even more. What's the word available? It's got multiplied. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's like abundant because now we worked through it. It's, you know, it's late, but it's exactly what Liam just said. It's a, it's hope. And you know, we make the joke. So when you did the draft Kings ad and it's, you know, T Bob's taking his team to win the national title, big F's taking his, I'm taking mine. And normally it's like, yeah, like, okay, you always have hope going into a new season. Now it's like, well, holy shit. Anybody can do it. Why don't you double up on those two? If we got two left. Yeah, we got to. So speaking of if anybody can do, we've got the NFL playoffs coming up. I believe there are three teams left that could win the Superbowl because Bo Nix is hurt. But regardless, if you want to go to the AFC or NFC championship games, game time has the best tickets. The game time app gives the advantage back to the fans. It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in just a few taps. Plus fees are always included. So you see what you pay. Go check that out. Now the Superbowl is in San Francisco. I'm sure that those are available. Whether you want to go to a concert. I know Brandon, you're a big hockey guy, hockey games, concerts. It's all there. So you can save even more when you choose a section and let game time choose those seats. 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So I'll just tell you the two questions and then we'll take the first one to begin with. Okay. So you can work on them. The two questions are. How will you. Personally remember the 2025 season as a whole. And number two, what excites you the most going into 2026? How will you remember this season as a whole? It can be any way you want or, and then we're going to follow that up with where now the eyes are towards 2026. What sticks out in your brain? Yes. I was going to say you go first. Me go first. Okay. 2025 as a whole. I will legitimately remember it. And it's a selfish thing. It's the first time I felt like everybody has a chance. And it's the first time Mississippi state made me feel alive for a while. We were what we, we were, we, we, you know, we were two and 10 last year. We didn't end up having a good year. We ended up, but like the, the, the, the Arizona state wind made us feel alive. I had the big clip earlier in the year where we finally had something. And I feel like on a small scale, like every, I, what you get out of this sport is what the moments it gives you. And I can't imagine what Indiana fans are going through right now. I'll probably never feel that, but I just remember 2025 finally being the season where I wasn't just ignoring certain things and being like, God, I got to get through this. I got to work. Like I felt like I enjoyed it again. So that, that was what I'll take from 2025. What about you? Well, it's along those same lines. And I, I know it sounds cheesy and maybe it is because, you know, I'm, I'm just a stupid woman over here, Brandon, but that, that makes me, I tear up a little bit because I think with college football and what makes it so different, anybody that's listening or watching this, you know, you have a passion for your team. That's different than any other sport. And watching you have those moments that you had, you know, when we went to the college football show and watching you walk out on stage. And obviously I've seen, Oh, I forgot we did that. Yeah. Like, you know, watching you get to do that in Starkville. And obviously I've seen big of, you know, be able to have those moments when we've gone on the road as well. And I got to do that. And I know a lot of people, you know, hate A&M and like to make fun of me loving A&M, but I will remember this season as the first time that it felt like we were really in the mix. And I got to go stand on the sidelines with. my dad for a college football playoff game which I never thought would happen um and it was finally fun to really watch football again it's always fun as a fan of the sport as a whole but to be an Aggie and be able to watch that and I think that's what's so cool is like everybody has their team and it's it's it's emotional it really is and so I think when I look back at the 2025 season it's that I finally got to to feel a little taste of what it feels like to be at the top of the sport big half um I mean getting the Michigan lick back in Arbor was good but unfortunately it's gonna be kind of like it felt like another season that got away from us a little bit yeah it felt like it's gonna look back and be like yeah lost the two games that lost two close games to the teams that played a competitive game of the national title both games feel like winnable I feel like I feel like I've had too many of those in the last like decade yeah like a lot of teams that I felt like had enough to get it done but just didn't get it done so I mean yeah kind of shit kind of kind of a weird shitty feeling watching the two teams we lost to play in the natty but you did get your lick back uh that's the only that was the positive but yeah overall not great not great uh t-bop uh yeah it's it's the great uh democratization of of college football and and and hope like we just kind of mentioned hope being uh born anew and starting to spread like wildfire and then all of these other programs now saying well okay if they did it we can do it we should invest more and then now creating an arms race to make this sport so much more unpredictable than it has been for two plus decades under the yoke of crimson impression that was alabama and kind of the other alabama-esque superpowers um I just think back to our preseason rankings of our preseason selections on who we said was going to win that championship who the best players are going to be and I cannot recall a year in which we have been more wrong about all of those predictions and I think that's a good thing I think that's a good thing I think that creates way more interesting narratives I think that creates a lot more uh room for us to imagine and play in the margins and and come up with more creative and exciting predictions that you can actually believe in because look at what just happened this year so yeah it was um it was it was a great year it was it was a great finish to college football as well with with how this final uh playoff played out in my opinion Blutman, what will you remember, 2025? I don't know. I really don't know. I remember the national championship. I remember the playoff. It is so far removed from the rest of the season. Ain't nobody play on the same team anymore. I don't know, man. I don't want to say what I remember most because I ain't going to do it to you. But, man, it was a good season. Oh, what were you going to do? Is there a picture of it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the thing, Blutman. Some of us have the ability to make people remember us, okay? Some of us have that ability. They don't boo nobody. Some people have the ability to stand on the sidelines and make the whole world look at them. All right, since you totally whiffed on that question. Oh, 100%. Hold on. We get to lead off on the 2026 question. Just really quick. The picture that I just showed you, Ev also just tweeted or texted. Mendoza's arms? Mendoza's arms look like they're about to fucking fall off. He just played the great wall of defense. Like, it's a shame. But look, that looks like CGI bruises. His arm is thrashed. It's a shame that defensive line is not going to go down in history as champions because they should have. Go ahead, Blutman. 2026. 2026. I think it just got proven that. For all the. Just stick with the 12 team playoff. Like, don't expand. Don't go to 16. And I know for a fact that they're going to go to 16, but I think that this was as good of a playoff as we could have hoped for with a few blips here and there. But, you know, like, why are we going to expand? I don't understand that. I think you look at what we assign. You keep the 12. I mean, it's more of like a warning sign. I do not understand the question. It's more of a warning sign. It's just two questions in a row. You didn't understand the question. I'm tired. Okay. It's what you're looking forward to. Oh, I forgot. This motherfucker had his lip. Big Av, what are you looking forward to in 26? I don't comprehend. No, it's funny. I shouldn't say this because parodies, as an Ohio State fan, parody is kind of a bad thing for me, to be honest. Yeah. But as a college football fan, as a purist, it is the parody. I think that's what you look forward to now if you're just a fan of college football in general. And I'm beating it. Dead horse here. But it really is that anyone can fucking win it. And it is wide open. And with the 12-team playoff, we've now seen back-to-back years where an 8-seed won it all. A 10-seed was a play or two away from winning the national title. Like, you can make arguments about the lessening of the regular season. But it is almost more of an NFL field where, like, talk Miami, you can have a few blips and make a run. Ohio State last year, you can have a few blips and still prove we are clearly the best team. So I think that's what I'm most excited for. It's the parody. It's the even more chaos. And it's to them, hopefully, getting us the best playoff product they can. No more autos. No more G5s unless they earn it. And if they want to go to 16, I'm fine with that. Because I don't think it will make much of a difference. And also, move the calendar. Change the calendar. But look forward to parody and chaos. T-Bob, I can predict what you're about to fucking say. What excites you the most in 2026? No, look. I mean, yeah, selfishly, I'm excited to see LSU, Lane Kiffin. I'm excited to see LSU, Lane Kiffin. I want to be back and all that. I've been gaslighting myself for years in this Brian Kelly era. This last year has been a complete shattering of so many things that I believe to be true. Like, I thought he was a good coach. But whatever. It isn't about LSU. It's about the sport as a whole. And I'm looking forward to fucking thinking about the sport all offseason. I'm looking forward to looking at all of the portal news and trying to look at all the new rosters and, okay, piece together all the puzzle pieces. And how is this going to work? Who's going to come together? What can we learn? Because, like, we live in such a transformative time of college football. We're the very fabric of the game. Not on the field, but the fabric of the game off the field has been completely shattered and is in the process of being remade. And in this shattering, I think there are ripple effects that we can't even begin to predict. Right? And it seems like every additional year of data that we get in this new era helps us to try to give it some context, helps to try to empower us to try to see into the future more and start to make more predictions. So I'm excited to kind of look at what's happened in the last couple of years. What lessons do we think we can carry forward? Study these rosters. Have some fun. Do a bunch of big predictions. And then be completely wrong when the games start again. Because at the end of the day, it's 22 humans on the field with infinite variables. And that's why sports are the best form of entertainment. It's because when it's unscripted and it's live and it's human suffering and human triumph, it's human suffering. It's human suffering. You end up with the most unlikely and fantastic of outcomes. And that's what I can't wait for. Have you seen the screenshots of you in the cave? No. I don't have anything. I can't see anything. Oh, no. Oh, no. Am I the last one? Where did you see? Are people tweeting that at you? No. Hold on. Are you on Reddit? No. Oh, look. I'm on the bar. It's a game. It's a gambling tweet. I was looking at it. I saw that and I scrolled down. I forgot. Oh, no. Never turn your back on the camera. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. At least it's not the worst visual we've gotten on a gambling stream. Yeah. Especially with that body part. So, have you gone yet about what you look for? I haven't. And honestly, I needed you to pull me out of my. It wasn't a funk, but I was getting emotional over here. So, thank you for showing me my ass. Yeah. So, no. I think that this. I look forward to a new era. And, you know, with Indiana doing it the way that they did it is great. But I love when we get into the summer and we start really thinking about predictions and just how different I feel like so many of those graphics are going to look this year. Because when you look at. And, you know, Taylor LeJuan was the only one left going into the semifinals. But of all the national media and there was nobody with a team left except for Taylor and he had Oregon. Those predictions are going to look wildly different this year. Because I do feel like that piece of hope. Is going to change a lot of people's opinions and people are going to want to go out on a limb more. Because I do think that it's easy for people to sit at home and be like, oh, these people don't know anything about college football. I'd find it very, very hard-pressed to find somebody outside of Bloomington, Indiana, which, by the way, looks awesome right now, picking Indiana to win the national title this year. Whether you're paid, you know, $10 million a year or you get paid nothing to talk about college football. So, I think that that's what I'm most looking forward to. And also, I know you're going to go, but are you going to want to walk this one off? I have something to say. If you want to walk off, that's fine. I don't really have a walk-off, so I'll let you finish it. Okay. What am I looking forward to in 2026? Yeah. You guys were all big picture and everything. I'm looking forward to Kamario Taylor winning the fucking Heisman, Mississippi State going 11-1. That's what I'm looking forward to. You bitches have been running your mouth reckless for a long fucking time. Okay? A long fucking time. And I'm looking at you, big guy over there in the Ohio State hat. Huh? Yeah, I'm looking at you, old smiley McSmiley face over there thinking Lane Kiffin's going to walk into basketball. I'm looking at you, Baton Rouge. I'm looking at all y'all. I'm coming for fucking blood next year. Me and Kamario Taylor and our, yeah, thank you. Did you tell me to ring a cowbell? I don't have one. Do I have a cow? thank you is it still on the anyway what am i looking forward to i'm looking for listen i i think the sport i oh my god look at that i think the sport just opened up i think the sport just changed i think life has changed at the top of college football and i thank indiana for winning it for everybody out there listen this sport has belonged to the blue bloods for a long time and uh it it legitimately and there's other teams have been knocking the door old miss knocked at the door this year you know other it just everything just changed and and 2026 we're gonna see how the blue bloods respond because they're you think they're gonna take this lying down they're gonna be angrier than they've ever look at how texas is spending you know look at lsu spending so uh it's it's it's gonna be wild and i think this sport just opened up to a whole new set of possibilities and that's great so that with that being said thank you a good solid year here for blutman and and t-bob and big ev uh i'll i'll let you have the final word as we get out no i i didn't even necessarily want to be the walk-off but i do want to thank everybody in the chat and that listens and that watches you know this has been a really good year from a viewership standpoint a listenership i don't even know if that's a word so i want to thank everybody for that because you know brandon you and i have done seven seasons of this together which is crazy to think about um and people have no idea what goes on you know behind the scenes but the fact that you know you guys have all shown up for us every single week and we've shown up for you guys it's really cool that we have a fan base um whether you love us or you hate us uh you can hate me you can love me you can hate the guys love them you guys are showing up i think that's really really fucking cool and it makes college football awesome so thank you to everybody who's listened who's watched even the mean and hateful comments we appreciate you showing up um and yeah like thanks to the boys thanks to all four of you guys you know it is uh it's a family and so i appreciate it thanks for a great season all right that's it thanks everybody t-bob you got to get to bed you got to be on a wub in seven hours uh so uh thank you for watching that's Unnecessary Roughness. 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