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Mekai Curtis on The End of Raising Kanan + Studying 50 Cent + Power Origins Ep. 95 | The Crew Has It

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Mekai Curtis on The End of Raising Kanan + Studying 50 Cent + Power Origins Ep. 95 | The Crew Has It

The transcript details a reflective conversation about the behind-the-scenes realities of acting in television productions like *Canaan* and *Origins*. The speaker shares a cautionary tale about a background actor who leaked set details online, resulting in serious professional fallout—highlighting the risks of digital exposure in the entertainment industry. This incident underscores how quickly content can go viral and how production environments are now more vigilant, especially post-strike. The conversation also explores the emotional toll of the acting life: long hours, disrupted personal time, and the difficulty of maintaining relationships due to unpredictable schedules. The actor emphasizes the importance of emotional balance, noting that while some days are exhausting, others offer deep connection through shared experiences on set. He describes how the evolving nature of the industry—from social media leaks to audience-driven content—has changed how actors and crews operate. Despite challenges, he finds joy in the process, especially in the evolution of characters like Canaan and the growing chemistry in *Origins*. He also reflects on how personal habits—like looking off-camera during scenes—are instinctual and human, not flaws. The discussion ends with a note on artistic self-awareness, where actors must navigate criticism, personal growth, and the tension between creative control and audience reception. The actor remains passionate about his craft, embracing both the chaos and the depth of the work.

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When you went out that first night and I remember you posted on your story and you went from the strip club in Houston to the airport, to go film and you were like, you were like these motherfuckers move different and we were just like together on the famous like whole air. Last one to the airport by breakfast. Day one, day one. Well, they had some crazy ass leak from a fucking, uh, from a background actor, bro. That shit was fucking insane, bro. He went on, yeah, bro. He went on, he, he was on set. I guess he was a police officer, some shit, and um, uh, he went on Facebook. And literally posted like a whole page of the sides, bro, like, oh, yeah, this is what's happening. I was a background actor for origins one day. And this is my day on set. And what was the set saying? They said the fucking what else is going to happen with somebody leaks some shit from what we should be, bro. They probably had nothing to go to low suit or some shit right now. Yeah, if you're a background actor, do not ever do that, please. Bro, he's cooked. He's never going to be background ever again. Yeah, he's never working. He's never working on a set every. It was like, it's fucked because I get it, though, because it was like, you know, especially post strike. Everybody's excited to go to work and post the things we had somebody that was like actually on the cast when we first started origins. Do the same fucking shit essentially. No, everybody's like, yo, yo, fix it. It was bad. No, bro. It was right before, um, it was actually, it was two situations. It was one where Charlie posted his script and it's seen, uh, Gerita's name plate in the back. So everybody lost their shit. Everybody's like, oh my god. Gerita come here, turning this whole like girl scrub it, delete it. Charlie. Well, I mean, it wasn't like he posted the whole shit. It just was like, aw, I know, but now I should be wicked. Like, when you post into like that, you got to look at the background. You got to make it. What's kind of wild though is how fast the like, I guess maybe five, 10 years ago, that wasn't a thing. So how fast the entertainment industry is evolving is like, oh, now publicists are like, oh, we got to worry about people recording this actual scene itself. Like, yeah, it's kind of wild. Shit is wild. Yeah. Shit is wild. There was some stuff going on. I don't know. They said, bro, stupid ass backgrounds. I'm like, damn, bro. This is a lot going on. That's what happens out there, man. It's been fun though. It's been cool. So you're done with, you're done with Canaan. Uh-huh. And now you're on the origins. But okay, so Canaan had just, we saw the finale. We obviously saw what happened. When you were getting these scripts this season, were you like, what was going through your head? What the fuck? What the fuck? It's been crazy. Yeah, like, I don't know, bro. Sasha, Sasha, the pin. That's what we call them, bro. The pin. That's the greatest last name if you're a writer ever. That is the chef's kiss. Now, bro, he keeping everybody in his toes. It's been a good time. It's been fun. What was your favorite scene this season? To do. Wait, okay. All right. So we talked about Canaan. We talked about origins. No, no, we can't. Obviously we can't talk about Canaan's origins yet. To be totally honest, because we shot that Canaan shit like two years ago. I don't remember any of it. That is so crazy. People don't realize that. All the time. All the time. People ask because I'm like, bro, we filmed that two years ago. So much has happened. Like, we be locked in. But we not that locked into the world. We're remembering scene by scene two years ago. Because you have so much going on right after. It's too much going on, bro. I will say watching, was it episode six, five? They just came out. The one where we're Marvin B. Canaan asked. That actually was kind of fun to share. Like, that was, it was an all day thing. But like, it was, it was dope getting to watch it all come together. And then, like, you said, we locked in when you actually shooting it. So when it actually happened, I was like, oh, shit. All right. Cool. And now that's like the another part of the transformation for the character. So it was like, it was dope to watch it technically shot, but also to add the layers of like storyline beats to mine. And he was like, you know, it's so funny. It fits. He's like, you ain't never forget to ask being like that. Was that the worst Canaan's ever gotten his ass beat in the show? I'm pretty sure. Yeah. I'm pretty sure. Because nobody else is going to try him. Like, that's, I think that's why I was also poetic. Marvin did it because it's like, nobody else is going to try him. Like that because they don't want to deal with him, but they definitely don't want to deal with his mother. Right. Right. Nobody else has the balls to do it other than his uncle. Yeah. And it was, it was coming. One of his crazy is we, you and me pulled up to this scene where, what is that? I don't know. When they were shooting it, remember we went to set, I think it was, I think it was the last day filming. I don't know if it was that scene though. I don't know. I don't remember what scene it was. Yeah. Because it was two years ago. I know so long ago. But remember, we have that picture on set with all of us. And I thought that was like the scene. No, yeah, we pulled up the last day. What a journey. Did you think it would go? Did you think? All right, bro. You did five seasons. And then now you're doing more seasons ever. Did you, do you think that was going to happen? No, bro. I mean, I didn't really have any expectations of where the shoot was going to go for real. It was kind of just like, okay, they're going to raise Canaan. And obviously at some point it's going to transition into what people really want to see with the Tommy and Ghost of it all. So it was just like, yeah. Then they came around and were like, so yeah, you going to come rock with us? I said, all right. Cool. So point like, once I think it's like, once you're like, obviously the first season, you don't really know what to expect. But then the first season does well. And then once you get renewed for the second season. And then the second season does well. Then you like, I bet this is going to be on for at least four years. You feel me like, I think that's like, that's kind of what I felt when we got renewed for Ghost of Second year. I'm like, all right, they rock with it. Second season, they rock and with it even more. So it was like, it's bound to, you know, go at least four years. And that's when you start flying, Ghost of Turg. You have a girlfriend right now? We all in that same state. It's all, yeah, I'm like, no girlfriend. But do you think it's, do you think it's hard to juggle, like being in a relationship and being an actor? I think it depends on the person you involve with. I think, you know, it takes a lot to like explain it. But it also takes a lot to process and understand and be okay with like shit right now. I'm shooting and it's like, my call time is 5 p.m. I'm not getting home till three in the morning before the morning. It's kind of hard to explain that at times. But yeah, I really think it just depends on the person you talking to, like for real. Yeah, girls, and I'm like, she's like, your call time was 5 a.m. this morning. Why are you not getting home till 3 a.m.? And I'm like, shh, enough. I go to set and then, you know, I got a decompress afterwards at Starlet. That's a hell of a decompressure right there. Not but I feel like, bro, I don't think it's, I mean, I guess this is for like certain people. But like the people I've been with, I don't think it was too hard for them to grasp the fact that I might not see you or talk to you for 10 hours. I was out of this day because I'm just all set locked in. Like, I might text you for like 10 minutes and then fill me like after that. You might not hear from me till 12 in the morning. But like, I don't know. I feel like workers work, bro. They know your job. Straight like that. If they don't, then I feel like most of them think it's cool though. A lot of girls think it's like dope because, all right, there are a lot of dudes that are, or bombs with a lot of girls that are like don't have a job or whatever. And they think it's it. They're like, oh, he's like working on it. He's an actor on a show and plus a lot of people watch the show. They're like, oh, he's going to make like some people's favorite show. So that's why kind of, you know, we get away with it. But I do go to start the words. That's the novelty in the man. It's always fun until like now you really getting into it some of the days. Come home. You like, yeah, I don't really got it to talk to listen. Bro, because you're doing it all day long, but you're really talking all day, bro. And it took me a while to get to the point of even having the words be like, oh, I can't right now. Like, I'm happy to see you. I'm so excited to be here. But like, right now I have nothing to give. I just like to sit in the silence with you here. If that's cool, great. If not, all right. And that's the beauty of it. You could find someone that you could just literally say in silence with. And just be telling that's what it is. I go like when I would come back from set, bro. Like you said, you want to talk, bro, and just come home some fine shit, bro. You just, I just want to lay it out of my bed, bro. Just turn on the TV. You go, you go, whatever, just turn the TV. I'm chilling, bro. I can't, I can't speak to you right outside. Bro, we're so cooked after a day that I don't speak when I get home. Me, because you imagine me not wanting to speak as that. Yeah, it definitely tells you something about what we do on set, man. But it's like, it's like a social thing. And I don't know, I guess I think it's hard because then she wants to see you and talk to you after not seeing you all day and all this stuff. But you're just like, bro, like there's 500 people on set all day long that I have to talk to. Plus, you know, you're obviously the guy. So you're, you have to handle a lot of shit. And it's like, you get home and you're just like, I don't want to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Beautiful, it's beautiful when you find somebody that like-- - That gets it. - That gets it. And it's locating on that same wave at times. Like, you know, you don't have to do the song in dance and like entertaining somebody. - Oh, perfect, amazing. - Do you like being in LA in New York more? - I like 'em both. - You have the same thing as me. You have the same thing as me. Living in LA, we're here. I like 'em both at different times. 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And you learn how to compartmentalize it a little bit. So when I'm in LA, bro, it depends. Like if I'm not like, breathing for auditions and shit like that, I'm genuinely chilling. I'll be at the crib with the dog, be at the crib with my bro's on the game. I love driving out to Malibu, so I just hit the PCH, and I'm not that pissed, bro. - It is the best. - It's so fine, bro. - So that's why I go out that way. It's like, I like the speed that I kinda get to remove from. Like, I think that's what everybody in there is aiming at at some point. It's like, "Yeah, you know, my life on the day-to-day "with the work is so crazy." I'm like, just chill out for like five. So that's what happens when I go to LA, 'cause it's like, everything there is so lax when you're not in the work of it, so that's why I be out that way for a while. - What's your process when you do get an audition? Or actually, I wanna know your process when you get an audition, and then when you get to set. - Shit. Um, what is my process? Honestly, when I get the audition, and I think it's the muscle and the realization are a lot different when I'm like in season working, doing the show, and then when I'm kinda just chilling, like it takes a while to get used to the eye. Okay, this is what they're looking for. - But for the most part, I just, I try to learn the words, and then through learning the words, you kinda learn more of the meaning. And then from that point, it's just like, all right, I think that's what people are looking for in the audition, at least from my perspective is like, what meaning are you gonna give to these words? What does that, how does that translate to what's happening in the overall story? Yeah, but again, even with that realization, I feel like, you know, because what we do is so fucking subjective, I can have that process, which will probably be the same one set, but I probably won't wind up on that set. Like it depends, like, what they're looking for for that character, bro. - When you get an audition, like, what do you think is, like the ideal material for an audition? Do you think more dialogue, a lot of words, or do you think a good amount of scenes, but not so many words, to the way you have to literally solely focus on remembering so much, to where you can't focus on how you're delivering everything. What do you think, like, what do you think is better material for an audition? I was just talking to him about this, like, I hate auditions that are full of dialogue. - Have you run yesterday? - Yeah, bro. - Today's the girl, bro. It was pages and pages. I'm like, look what you have, like, 'cause one, you got the deadline, so you like, you really wanna, make sure you remember everything. And then, like, if it's so many words, you kind of get caught up and just remembering the words. And then it's like-- - You can't work out, you can't work out. - Bro, do you wanna see if I have a good memory? - Do you wanna see if I could fucking act, like, yeah. - I've been lately trying to, like, oh, to go back to the question. I think it depends on the character, Loki, and what is happening in the story. Like, some characters, they might just be looking for how you hold the space. They might be looking for what look you give, based off of whatever the lines are, like, what cue you're responding to. Some people, I think, do wanna see what your memory looks like. 'Cause, you know, that's a big part of it. You do show up to set. It's like, all right. Can you remember these words, bro? - Like, I bro, I don't know, bro. This should be so, like, it really is so subjective. I really think it is the pins, like. - Bro, that's why, like, dude, it's kind of aggravating, because it is such a subjective business and your tape is subjective. This producer might think it's great. This director might think it's great. It might not be great for that one. So, nine times, okay. The UFC fighter? The better fighter that night is usually winning. - It's actually the better fighter that night is pretty much always winning unless, you know, you see what happened with McGregor. - Yeah. - But like, the world cup team, the team who is the better team is winning. When you're acting, the better actor doesn't get the job. - Just pretty weird at that. - Right, it's actually very weird that happens. It's mostly like the person who fits the role correctly or fits this perfect set. So, that's what's so subjective about acting that I don't like as an athlete, 'cause I'm like, well, I probably sent in the best tape. I just might not be the best for this role. - Bro, that's the, and that's why when people ask, like, also, like, when they ask for acting tips, I'm like, bro, just pay attention, present, because like, like, you can go to school, you can learn all of the techniques in the methods, but I feel like experience is the best teacher. - Yeah. - And you, bro, like, okay, so this is another question I have for y'all. Like, I was just talking to another actor friend about this when it comes to, like, self-tapping now, 'cause nobody's going into rooms anymore. Like, do y'all, do you do the whole setup? Do you go to the studio or do you just set up, like, your camera? I remember I helped you with the tape. I'm kind of in that scene you did a tape with me like fucking years ago. Where are we in New York? Yeah This is when you were at the the apartment. Oh, he's feeling. Yeah, uh-huh. Really. I didn't know that Uh-huh. That wasn't what I did the podcast for the first time. Oh hell. Yeah, so I remember it But that's the same sort of like set up. I do just randomly kind of put your stuff up Plus whoa You like randomly just like set your phone up get the light going nice lighting But they're like I'm seeing people that have like they're shown up to studios with the whole setup and doing me and I'm like I know people that have booked off of that. I know people that haven't booked off It's like answer and then I'll go I would say I Mean I don't I think it It kind of depends on how How much you like the material that you get a number one is like I bet I want to go to extra mile or even just like It just it depends on how you feel in two cuz like certain things I see and um and I'm like I bet I want to hit up Josh I want to go to the studio and knock it out with him and also because like He's also he's a he's one of my acting coaches too, so like he kind of I kind of get that the constructive criticism I kind of get the yo we should do like this do it like that and sometimes like when I see something I'm like very confident and I'm just like I bet I I could do this like, you know walking apart I literally just yo knee Jay set up the light won't read read this with me and we knock it out and set up the phone Just like you said, so I think it depends on like I for me is like how confident I am and with the whatever the material is And how I could deliver it and then sometimes if I'm not feeling that confident I'd be like I should do this with Josh cuz he has a little bit more of an eye and ear for this so like you know I'm saying like we could fine tune it in certain ways Yeah, I feel the exact same way and it's also like how I how I get the material and I go and do I really want this? Mm-hmm. It'll it'll gauge me I'll just listen to myself and be like I really want this like for happy Gilmore I rented a whole hawk or a rink for the day. Oh, I got my friend who's a real shooter I shot this I wrote a new scene a shot the scene like I said didn't it was one of the best tapes I ever did and Bro the tape was so good that an agent at a girl who is at ICM When I was at ICM she left and went to another agency She texted me somehow got my tape and was like this is one of the best tapes I ever see my life like I'm so excited for you Like you're gonna book this obviously I didn't book it. That's how the business goes But like that like I was excited about that tape The twofold to that is like I'll spend how much on a watch so I'm like I can't spend how much on a self-tape set up So I got I got like a ten thousand dollar tape set up I got like a five thousand on camera. I got light check it everything cuz I'm like if I'm gonna spend this at starlets What skillet maybe I might as well be in one night? I might as well invest in myself to get a tape now. It's so weird like I just did two tapes at Michael's house I did it with an iPhone my team's like this is fucking amazing work And I did on an iPhone and I've been done tapes on an iPhone in in fucking three four years But then I'm sending stuff in my ten thousand dollar set up and my team's like I may like that whatever but like it's the same thing So it's like I don't know it like sometimes I hear stories of people booking big stuff in a hotel room Filming a movie with no lighting no anything and then I hear stuff of people going to a self-tape studio in the Heavill the set up. It's like it's it does not matter. I don't think I think it's also like the feeling that it gives you too I feel like if you obviously if you're doing a tape with a nice crazy set up or you're going into a studio It kind of feels more like you're doing the thing, you know saying like kind of feels like you're more in And like it feels more like set, you know, I'm saying it doesn't feel like you're doing a self-tape, you know I'm saying so but sometimes like certain directors would be like oh, I don't want all the bells and whistles on it Right, I just want to see them raw, but then other directors are like well I want to see what it would look like so it's like it there's no Fucking answer to this business. There's no answer So you could send in a whole amazing thing lighting and the director's like it's too like crispy and whatever And another director might want something gorilla and dirty and in the hotel room. It's like there's no answer So that that's why I do love having these conversations Especially with like actors who I know are fucking great actors. It's like it's good having these conversations because I'm curious about what other people are doing too It's dude. It's so much interesting. Are you doing tapes while you're while you're shooting origins? Yeah, I mean because like it's like One I've been playing can in so long I'm excited and ready to step into something else when it's when it's when it's there And I think it's also just good to keep the muscle going not just in this one thing I think that's why a lot of actors go back to classes and shit like that sometimes just like just to keep yourself Fresh and sharp and not playing this one tone of thing all the time Yeah, you know, it just it keeps you sharp This is what you want to do as an actor. You got to like you know move around diversify Yeah, have you pop that out those muscles in them? Yeah Sometimes the muscle get some time to muscle yeah, but when I do a tape for two three weeks And then I get a tape. I'm like fuck I can't remember anything Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so that's why it's like yeah, it's good to keep the muscle going at times Hope you get rid of certain habits to like I do this shit a lot like What are some habits that you guys do as an actor that? Do you have like specific things? I did it tape like a week ago and I do this thing while I look off Yo, I do the same fucking thing I do the same thing like if I'm caught like like in my mind Like trying to think about certain things like in the scene I literally like look up to the side yo that's why yo, I was dead as just about to say the same thing Yo, that's crazy. So what do you think you think it's your thing of like not telling the truth? I don't know what the fuck it is But I was watching other than I'm like why am I doing that? I would like what's the look off look like like what is it? It literally is just like I'll be focused here because the camera's there So you're like trying to oh this is my contact. This is where the camera is gonna be then. It's like I'm trying to gap Gavin and Nick start for the next line. So I'm just like I just look off and it's like That was weird especially. We were so directly But I feel like I don't know. Maybe this is too inside baseball I but like we've had episodes really where we talk about other stuff, but I Feel like as a human being you see what I just did just then yeah, right. I just was like thinking about something and I looked off There's no wrong answer. Yeah, that is yeah, that is how I feel as an actor It's like if you're listening and responding in the moment like there's no wrong answer. I just did it again I didn't even think of it. So it's like sometimes actors can get in bad places when they're like oh, I do this thing But sometimes they like you want to make it look good for camera and I get that too But like there really is no wrong answer if you put trained humans at the end of the day So this all the shit is just human nature, but it just happens. Yeah, so When you're when you're doing a tape Do you like are you super crazy about? Okay, this take or this take or you just rip it and you're like I'm done Independence like it depends on how excited I think anybody is about the tape for real It's like oh, this is a character. I think would be cool. Yeah, then I'll probably be a bit more like But sometimes it's like no like let's just put it out and see what happens like I honestly yeah I think those are the better tapes - yeah, we just throw it out there. It's like you never would think so they're like Oh, they love that the fuck what? We want to watch this That's what it is sometimes it's like or if I if I read The script and I know these are the certain beats are looking for and I've done it taking I'm like I missed it Then I'll do it again And then it's sort of like scenes that you could like deliver a few different ways so sometimes I'm like you'll just send them three takes That's like whatever X let them see that let them know that's like I I can give you the different Varieties you need I never send more than one take I know my take and I'm like, I don't want them to see anything else I'm weird like that. Maybe I should send more takes. I'm too weird. I'm like no, this is the take I don't want because I you know what I mean don't strip yourself because they did the take you thing might be the take the take after that Might be the one day like oh my god. You feel me like you got a I think that's I think that's gives it kind of like Like opens your chances a little bit more because he's like just gives them Yeah, it just gives them more to look at it like it just shows like it just shows your range It shows a little bit more like you know, I'm saying. Yeah, I was kind of what we love might not be what they love and what we hate Might be what they love I know I was like that too at some point, but then When the first using the canon came out and I was seeing certain scenes Well, I was just like why the fuck would they use okay? All right, they use that take I guess it's like at the end of the day It's all in a cutting room floor regardless So it's like you might as well just go balls and wall and they're gonna choose what they want to choose literally I would like I could bro It was so many times where we would do a scene and it would be like a crazy like super emotional scene or super intense scene And then like we would do like five six takes and then like probably like the fourth of the or the fifth take I'm like, oh yeah, that's the one they gonna use they using that one for sure and then I watch it. I'm like wait. I Didn't do that and that they didn't use the take brother. I think you do you remember any specific scenes like where that happened? For for sure the ulygy that that I gave for the ghosts When ghosts was dead it was a scene where I was just boiling my eyes. I literally boiling my it was to take where I was just boiling my eyes I'm I'm like, yeah, they're gonna use that one and then the one they use I barely I barely had any tears in my eyes. I'm like I mean, I guess it kind of makes sense like yeah, you know, I'm saying but I'm like damn But that's never happened to me they always they every time they've used a take. I'm like that's the take It's that that's why I feel like I'm I'm a good judge. Maybe the power fuck me up because like I am a good judge of what I think is good work for me every time Not one time I was like, yep, that was a take every episode. So I gotta open my brain a little bit more in that sense. You're gonna take a quick break from the episode and talk to you about our friends over at Cash App. Now, if you weren't up to speed already, Cash App is way more than just a safe way to send and receive money. With the Cash App card, you unlock a ton of perks without all the hidden fees. 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Cash App green features savings, direct deposits, roundups, overdraft coverage, and discounts provided by Cash App, a blocking brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. Do you consume a lot of stuff? I obviously, you know, you're shooting a lot right now, but do you like watch a lot of TV, music, like movies, like what do you consume in these days? 'Cause the last time we had you on the pub was what? The strike, three years ago. Damn, God damn, yeah, that was fun. Time was flying, yeah. Oh, you're way richer, so we're just kind of curious what's going out in Makai continuing to try to stay rich. I'm going to work all the time. That worked all the fucking time. What have I been watching? I don't really watch much. The last show I've been watching for real is called Interview with a Vampire on AMC. It's really good. It's really cool. And that's it about-- It's based off this novel by Anne Rice. And it's literally just like this. The first two seasons are like really dramatic. And in the third season, they changed the title of the-- 'cause they now they're on the second novel on the trilogy, whatever. But it's like a lot lighter. There's a lot more like funny moments into it. But it's really cool. I really enjoy it. It's like it was a cool little vampire love story, trilogy, tragedy type vibe. I'm a Twilight lover, so I get that. But what about TV shows? If you've been watching any TV or-- That was the last TV show. Oh, sorry, sorry, movies. What's the last few-- I still haven't seen obsession. I wanted to see that. Yeah, I haven't seen it. Yeah, the old one. We should watch it tonight. Yeah, I'm with it. That, what else? I went to saw Michael. I bro, I really don't watch much lately. I unfortunately have been doom scrolling my brain away. Stop, bro. We gotta stop. I know. Because everyone that comes on here says that, and it's like, 10 years we're going to be out of jobs. Yeah, it's insane, man. I've been trying to-- I've been trying to replace my scrolling with like word games. I've been doing-- Both places do go to Scrabble. No, boy. I mean, even that, I've literally went and got the workbooks. I have the word searches and crossword puzzles. So when I have the itch sometimes, I'll put the phone down and just pick up the-- it lasts for like 10 minutes and then back to scrolling. But it's like, I'm slowly resetting my shit. But social media is giving all of us ADHD, bro. Yeah, it's bad. I'm trying so hard. I'm clearly not trying hard enough. But-- It's hard, the hard is hard, bro. It's not as easy as it seems, bro. I hate that I'll fall in down the TikTok rabbit hole because when this shit first came out, I was like, fuck TikTok. Bro, me too, I'm like, I'm like, as a man, why the hell would I have a TikTok? What are we doing, bro? Fuck, no, I love TikTok, bro. Oh, my God. There's a man I'm never not going to TikTok. I love how I wanted to ask the films he loves. Like, I wanted to like talk film and he's like, so I now have to ask what your algorithm looks like. Yeah, what is your algorithm? What does my algorithm look like? It doesn't look like right now. Let's see, bro. What is random shit? Is this random shit? It looks like your algorithm, let's scroll like five times to see what the algorithm is. My algorithm is literally entourage at its manifestation stuff. Like, I have to take the bad stuff out because it'll consume me. But what I don't like about TikTok is if you like one thing, it'll feed your horror shit. It'll feed your horror shit. I'm like, it's annoying. I only wanted to see, you know, what kind of McGregor hurt his leg once. I don't need to say it 30 times. What do we do? Okay, okay. This is out of school. I'm sorry. But my stuff isn't usually like that. I am at it that, bro. The money shit, my first two scrolls are Raising Cain and Commentary. (laughing) And it is McGregor, bro. It's both about the fight. For those who watch Raising Cain and, while y'all think Cain and didn't fight back against Oklahoma Marvin. Do you watch a lot of the stuff that they say about you or like the edits or do you feel it? Every so often. Oh yeah, catch 'em all. 'Cause I like, I just can't scroll with that thing. You can't scroll without seeing anything. I'm watching it. And then I have friends that just like, they're sending it to me regardless. I was like, even if I'm ignoring it. Or don't see it, you gotta see it. You gotta see it. You gotta see it. We talked to Bettina about this. But do you feel like any type of way when you see it, do you get like, (laughing) I mean, not really. 'Cause it's like, I know I'm accrediting it to the work. Like really people, when they see what they see, it's like, oh, it's just, I'm doing the job so well. But it gets funny sometimes. You know, as any artist, you get sensitive about it. Shit. - Yeah, you're like, what the fuck? - Yeah. - You're like, fuck you talk, but like, no, man. That just means that people are really rocking with what the fuck is going on. - And it just figured out how to, you know, make some content out of it like. - Facts, like, bro. Some of us should be funny as hell, bro. - People be eating off this shit, bro. - It's crazy to see like a video of you acting, making a video of you acting. It's like quarter million likes. You're like, what? Is it not like, it's mind blowing. - I saw one the other day that wasn't me acting, but it was me acting. Somebody like, AI, a scene, the cane in his snaps and pop. And I was like, I don't know how to feel about this right now, 'cause it's like, as an artist is, once you've done your job, it's for everybody else to be so fucking like, it's no longer mine. But at the same time, I was like, I didn't sign up for that. - Yeah. - I didn't sign up for that. Like, thankfully it wasn't that crazy. - Right. - But I was like, this is, this is weird. Like, and I remember when the strike was happening. I'm like, yeah, no, this would be strange. Which I actually see it happening now. And I was like, oh, oh, wow. - It developed quick, dude. - Quick is fun. Look, he's so, he's so locked in a tic-tac. Now he's gotta go strong. - No, 'cause I saw, 'cause I saw, I was like, oh, the first two are cane in scrolls. Now it's like a drummer. - It's all cane in, it's all cane in, it's all cane in. - It's all in for real, bro. - Right now, for me. - I'm a look and see, did I guess? - No problem. - My last two, it's good to be conceived sometime. You gotta, you gotta love yourself, though. - I love yourself. - My first three scrolls was the World Cup. I don't know. The World Cup O.D. is, yeah, I don't know why. But his World Cup, they know some food shit. Most watch some food videos, bro, I love food. And then all these. - I'll be saving too many food spots, bro. - I need to actually start going. - Bro, I have like 300 spots, and I probably hit like two of them. (laughing) - Sometimes, what you watch your video, you're like, I'm good. I'm not hungry. - Yeah, so, you know, I'm good. - But then sometimes, I watch the video, I'm like, yo, I'm gotta go, like I have to go. I have to go. - And then never fucking go. - I have so many of those. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna definitely go and just still have it. - It's just like hard to find the time, bro. 'Cause by the time you have the time to actually go, he's like, do I really wanna dedicate my time to go into a spot that I have saved in my TikTok favorite, which, bro, like I got other shit I could do in my free time. He filled me like, but then when you go, it's like, then, this shit fight, like, we were like-- - Terry Black. - Terry, but I was just about to say Terry Black's in Texas. Oh, my God. - And God, we went, bro. Best barbecue I've ever had in my life. - Just try to Terry Black's. - That's like the third time I've heard John Manchinette. - In the last, like few months. - I got, I'm gonna have to check it out. - Bro, it is the best thing, it's the best thing. - They don't pay us to do this either. We paid full price. Do you have any favorite scenes that you shot throughout the years of Canaan or any favorite moments on set? - I don't remember any of the scenes that I shot at this point. Like, yeah, I, bro, it's all a blur. I don't remember any of the scenes I shot. - I think there's one in episode eight coming up that I enjoyed in episode four. I'm sorry, in episode eight that already came out. - We shot this before. - Yeah. - Yeah, right. But I don't really have any, like, particular moments on set. 'Cause like, every day is just real chill. Like, everybody over there enjoys their job. They talk to shit and we watch the World Cup and we watch the finals and all that shit. Like, in between set up, somebody has an iPad or a TV set up. - Really? - So it's like, it's really just a chill-ass time for Kane and who is like, who is like the, what was everyone like on set? Like, what was like? What was London like I said? What was patina like I said? It's over now. So you just let it all out not everybody was literally like I think all of our we all kind of adapted to The role everybody had and so like okay, London really was like everybody's all right patina really is everybody's like mother want to say it's like that was kind of the whole overall setup like everybody was just Like everybody like that's like that's like a testament of like great cast and wrote because like everyone is like literally just fit in their roles But like even off off camera like they just on set like like you said patina I could definitely see patina being like my mother on set just like keeping everybody together Coming coming to set very serious Everybody on it pees and cues First I want to marry. I was like, oh shit. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, she bought her business I remember the first time I met her. I went. Oh shit. Oh Here she is I love her. I'm sorry. I don't care who knows that I love her It's what is it's out there brother. We all love you miss Miller. Shout out patina movie. I love you one percent more but No, but she's did you see into the woods of course, but I saw it into the woods and it worked with her like 12 hours later I was like what the like she's an alien like it. That's why we're whole work I think it's insane. Yeah, cuz she was doing the whole into the woods while she was filming what season three or two I think it was three. Yeah, she was three. That's old D bro. I was like how they rehearsals are literally like six seven hours non-stop all day and then coming from Filming and like four or five hours with you guys and then going to do another six hours of just rehearsals It's like damn and then towards the end of that season. She had the nerve to also be run like she ran a marathon Had a birthday dinner in the city and was wearing heels walking around. I said She's a different bill. She's either different with him a different breed. She did anything wild happen on set or anything like I mean between shooting on shooting through a pandemic then shooting right after a strike Those are like some of the biggest things that happened. My fuck is it was losing family and Bro, it was it was crazy. I think that's also what made the work so like Like raw and real it's cuz people was going through like real shit Yeah, while it was happening right and like oddly a lot of the pieces started to like mirror What was going on for some people so it was just like? spoke to him dog. It was all there. It was all here on film, bro. Yeah, I think like I mean, maybe specifically for Braden like The work mirrored a lot of my life in a way Obviously not like to the fullest but like you feel the same way about how like to read like kind of mirrors Michael I do you think that's the writers or do you think that like the writers see how you are so they start writing for you or What do you think it's both? I think it's both. Yeah, I feel like it's there's like It's definitely both cuz I'm like there's some shit. That's what is it? Tell me bro. No, like it's just like certain things that You'll see in like the stage direction or in certain parts of dialogue. It's like Where you did you have to fucking why are you know? It's so crazy, man. It's like canon flies two girls the Turks and Kate goes I wish I wish I was that adventurous And now can that's something can we do? Um, I don't know if he would though like even though even though he's making bread I think canon gives a fuck about no one like do you think canon has ever left New York? well, well, um What what season was that to when we came back and he was sitting on the beach in like a full hockey jersey and air forces like actually in the sand Just full bro, but I was jersey. No, I think he was in Virginia something like that. Yeah, they sent him somewhere wherever his grandmother was nice grandmother cousin some I don't remember what see I don't remember shit about too far from real broke But I think that was like the one time he left New York. It's like like no funny shit But they talk about that so many times and shows like yo, this is I feel like um Unique says somebody to where he's like, yo, I was born this outside. I'm gonna die here, too. It's like that's as that's canon's that's canon's name But I was about to say and Far out that way. It's a this a whole ecosystem in itself every burrow really is like If you have fortunate out to move around and do the things do that What are your favorite things about canon? What are your least favorite things about canon? In terms of like the character at a show the character But we could we do show too. Oh, well if we want to talk about the show My least favorite things I'm in the character like as the character I Like how observing he is But on the flip side of that his observance makes him more manipulative and I just don't like like I don't think anybody likes manipulative people I mean, I think any you try to Manoeuvre things in your favor But that's like the cast 22 at canon is like a lot of the things that you who Grota not necessarily like about him raising canon kind of shows you why to understand you ain't got a fuck with it still But you're like I got them. There's a reason to this. Yeah, it's like all right, so at this point. I feel like All of the shit out for me is kind of jean because like at this point everything that is like Grimey or or shitty about them is like you understand why it happened where it came from Have you ever seen the movie some dog millionaire? Yes, bro, and it's crazy because I watched that shit when I was like 72 and I had no fucking clue what was going on and then I think during the pandemic I watched it again and I was so hyped because I'm like I remember this now But not have a better appreciation for it because I'm older and I just way different. Oh my god I was like this this shit's so good. Yeah, I didn't change the subject basically Slumber dog millionaire It's a movie about a guy In India who wins how to be a millionaire or who wants to be a millionaire is one of the game shows Yeah, so yeah, um and and there's like Maybe how many questions are like 20 questions and he answers everyone right every every question right and the whole movie Every time he's asked a question it goes back to his childhood on why he was able to answer the question I think it's the perfect film. I have letterbox. You have a letterbox. I don't see because I'm not like I feel like once I get more into actually watching and doing the things. I'll be able to like. Oh, yeah This is great. Let me remove. Yeah, I'm not snobby about like I am a I love film. I love like I know Contrary to popular belief I'm always talking about like Starless and that obviously it's for the bit But like I you know me. I love film. I love movies. I love TV and on letterbox is an app of your favorite movies It's literally you have you could pick a top three. It's one of my top three. It's a perfect film So to bring that back to Kane and it's like that's what they're doing essentially. Yeah is like Okay, he did this shitty thing, but the reason he did it is because this happened to him when he was a kid and and this is why he's like this And I think that's what Sasha's doing such a perfect job. It's insane. Yeah, like how good he is at that Yeah, I don't know if maybe we we can kind of talk about this if if it's too much But like is there any There's no 50 voiceover in origins or you don't even know I have no fucking clue. Yeah I know that when we were doing canine Raising canine they were like actual voiceover like lines that were there, but I haven't seen it Yeah, it's interesting because I'm curious if they're gonna go if they're gonna kind of do the same mold as like what they did with Canine but for origins, but maybe with Tommy and ghost. I would love to see that. That would be fun That would be cool. Yeah, but I mean She yeah, I don't know actually. I don't know how that's gonna go, bro Hi origins is looking good. Yeah, I was just ready to get into the how is Charlie and spent that because we went obviously Yeah, I was what to say. I mean from the outside perspective. How was it? How was it looking like the boys are quick? We talked about in Alex's episode. Did you see it also went viral? We Alex LaPrie came on when I was in your class, and and one of the one of the guys did like review when he was talking about it And we were due to his unbelievable look great like Charlie's awesome. Spets is awesome like it looks fucking great They're a lot, bro. Yeah, cooking a lot. Oh my god. In every episode I watched them get more locked and I'm like oh shit Yeah, once you're like oh, it's also like kind of what you did like season one you're you figure it out Yeah, bro, so it's like every episode. I'm seeing it. I'm seeing them make it more and more theirs. Yeah, and it's just exciting to watch, bro Yeah, it's it's gonna be fun Origins is like I'm having a lot of fun. I'm having a lot of fun like I had fun on Canine But I'm having a lot of fun with with origins is whooping my ass like I oh my god like in terms of Just the things that I like as a performer you don't necessarily know you having your tool back And so you got to pull it out. Yeah, holy shit like oh my god. I'm having fun like it's pause stretching me away It's it's it's it's it's challenging me in ways that like I wasn't that I didn't think I would like whatever necessarily see but like you always hope for as an actor. Yeah, I was on the crew has it Instagram page and obviously that whole algorithm is all like mostly like a lot of power stuff And I saw a scene this morning where Where canon older canon 50 was talking to Rotimie Dre and and Tommy at a Lunch table or dinner table and one of the guys made fun of He was like, oh, we're gonna get some cool aid and chicken too because he was talking about how good the food was And you just see the look on Canon's face like I'm gonna kill this motherfucker When I see that I'm like I'm curious if macaque Sees this and uses this 100% so how much did you go back in In power and and use it to canon do you still go back and and look at stuff like how does that all work? I feel like at this point because Like the at least in my like algorithms the universe is so Whatever like yeah random like that clip popped up for me the other day. So it's like that's where I see and get my Okay, I'm gonna use this at some point when I first started canon Yeah, I was like watching and going back and seeing like okay Like what makes him do the things what triggers him XYZ I for sure have been using a lot more of the I what I feel is like the older canon essence in and Timing in origins more than anything like I think that's where it Fits the most yeah, it's almost like weirdly a gift in a curse what you've been given because the gift is you have the road map to the character You see the end goal. So you're like oh these are all clues like even that scene that I saw of 50 Looking at the guy that that's something that you know you can use but also at the same time They're like well, maybe he wouldn't do this or or people can be very nitpicky Do you feel like that's happened to you where people have been nitpicky about choices you made or or stuff like that or do you feel like it's all been um? I'm thinking depends on the day. I think yeah, not it really does Yeah, I believe I know I think people sometimes with the voice. I think it's real is real hit or miss. I think I think because Of how menacing and like not giving a fuck the the grown canon is there's a lot more scrutiny on the younger version Which is like that's par for the course of course It is I think with any anything that anybody puts out somebody gonna have something to say about it So it is what it is at that point, but it's like long as my fuck is that that are like yeah show up to work at this time I mean saying nothing I ain't got no goddamn problem Yeah, I think I think people always got something to say which is cool It's like that's what you do as artists you put it out and people want to do they they won't do it Yeah, is there is there stuff that you want to do as Canon in origins like is there like a blue sky scene or Scenes or multiple things or arcs. Yeah, honestly, I've done Everything I feel possible with this character like like like For for the world that this character is in I feel like There's not that there's not much left to do with it, but Sasha did such a good job of fleshing out every part of it It's like I feel like the the Canon that people are gonna see in origins is the bridge to be like Oh, yeah, once he goes away for 10 years. I can see how he came out as that like Shit, I feel like the episode we're shooting right now Yeah, I'm having fun with it, bro. Yeah, I'm having so much fun with this. Oh, my god It's like I've done I've done everything possible off your life with this character When you I don't know if we talked about this in your original episode, but when you started Canon were you around 50 trying to like do anything or now? Now the the only I'd seen 50 what twice from the time I found that I booked I'm sorry from my last audition for it to The very first day on set, which was at like the first audition I had and then at the table We were everybody met like those are the only two times I've really seen them Everything else was just like watching I'd watched a couple of interviews and stuff with him Because that was part of my like homework and curriculum with with the dialect coach was like Yeah, these are how you get the inflections in XYZ, but other than that now, man, it was just like Just running to when you see him. I'd be like 50. I got to go to a visa with you I just got I got it I mean I got to go on tour with you. I got to be on the chat. I got to figure out all these things I think that was also I think I also kind of purposely Didn't want to like Not necessarily not be around him, but I didn't want to like Become so one-to-one. I wanted to actually organically not try to figure it out. It's all there like yeah 50's quite an open book If like you don't necessarily need to be on his hit to see yeah, what's 50's about what any Normal person is about for her like like I think that's the thing that's so like not confusing but people People would try to or they say and they see and experience this one side of this person not seeing why that is It's like bro people that chill until you fuck with them Yeah, he's chill until you fuck right, yeah, yeah, it's don't fuck with you good And that's where people started to get like broke the wrong way about it But like I figured that out from the two conversations I'd had from them and then From the multiple like just interviews and shit that he's had Talking to people by his stop process has he given you any Like do you remember any great advice? He's giving you or gems or any great moments that you've had with 50 that like you'll remember for Forever I feel like and I feel like when people ask that question. I was like so like what did he tell you about playing the character? I hate that too, but like the only like because every time we do press junkets are like so what's it like working with 50? I guess I'm asking more in a level of like we all know him and if like we've had the coolest experience with him That no one else on planet earth is ever had yeah, so I'm asking more of that not just like how was your work? Like he's done some fucking crazy cool shit for all of us that like he didn't never needed to do so that's kind of where I was asking Question it's like It's weird because it's like he just like randomly like call sometimes Yeah, those are the best causes like no just checking it on you. Yeah, and he'll just randomly dropping nugget about like All right, so this is how you move or like this is what I ran into it's like, oh see wait Let me get the no pat right now. Thank you like bro. It's there's not one definitive. I feel like like Every time you talk to him you won't walk away with something like all right. I'm gonna use that. Thank you Cool. I will be back. Like yeah, like I have no real Definitive like everything we talk about changes my life. Yeah, do you have any favorite moments of like maybe him bringing you out somewhere Maybe when you're on stage I was literally just thinking about that shit the other night. I was like, bro What was Houston? Oh my God movie was the fucking was that the first time we ever like was I was out with McCoy Yeah, right out out. We like injuries. We went to little hoogies. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that was the first time Yeah, that's when that's when we like because I don't know if 50s told you this or like if we've talked about this But 50 called me and Michael was like you got to take my guy out You got to get him in the mix. Yeah, yeah, because like 50 what which is what he's so good at is like he understands that It's not just acting 100% like like this business is no longer just acting this business is social media This business is how you carry yourself. This business is do people think you're fucking cool and 50 that was like take my Kyle put him in the mix and even I think when that photo happened when you came to my apartment We did fight night and that photo went viral and then came and posted it and and go stars posted it and it kind of went like Viral of all of us together 50 thanked us and he was like, thank you for taking him out and like all this up But like he he wanted that and that's what he does. So well that is like he'll do the festivals and bring The Avengers in he'll bring this show that show that like that's what he's so good at so But that shit matters so when you went out that first night and I remember you posted on your story and you went from The strip club in Houston to the airport to go film Uh-huh, and you were like you were like these motherfuckers move different and we were just like together on the famous like That shit matters and and I love moments like that because like Maybe the people before us in the original power didn't do that for us Maybe maybe there's people in in the original power before us that I wish did that with us They didn't yeah, and I'm speaking for me. I don't know if maybe Michael can pick for himself But like they didn't do that for us. So that's why when I went to the origin set went up to Charlie. Yeah He's another wife out of our universe. I'm so excited that he's getting this opportunity and he's fucking killing it I'm like I spent I'm like dude you guys we all sat together you guys gonna have the time of your lives Charis is gonna be so fun. I like that shit. It matters what like that's the thing I fucking spent he bought me a gyro the other day. I was on They actually love that when that happened that was a crazy that was a crazy day on set Yeah, that was a good time. Well like that's the that's the thing about this shit to is like, especially with everybody having like established careers and doing the thing coming into it. But it's like when you step into this shit, it is entirely different, like it is a total adjustment. So like watching them come into it and figure out the things like, it's funny because like, I'm kind of stepping into those shoes, that's all, well, you are the better way. Yeah, you know, it's like, we're out now and it's like, you know, this is how we do things. We talked about this in the outset, we said, don't ever let Charlie or Spence make you get Mike's first. You're the very, when you're sitting in a chair, like, one of them was like, yeah, you got to go. Because half of them don't know, like because on our set, like a lot of our, like, PAs and ADs start like swapping out. So so half of the time, it's like somebody's first day, so they don't, like, necessarily you know, your last to set, they go first and you show up when you want to show up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to Mike's first ever, ever, ever going to Mike's first. Ever. It's quiet. Why are we not shooting the rehearsal? Yeah. Shoot the rehearsal. Yeah, let's get one. Let's get one and they can't shoot the rehearsal, we good rehearsing for what? We marked it already. Let's go. Let's get it. We got some rapid fire for you. And then we'll get you out of here. We appreciate you pulling up as always. We fucking love hanging out with you dogs. Yeah, man, it's been fun, bro, I appreciate it, bro. All right, early call time or night shoot. Early because we're shooting nights right now. And the first two days were hell, but like, now that my body's readjusted, I'm not getting up into like three. Yeah. Just like that. And then the thing about night shoots, bro, is so ass, because like as much as you, like, while you're on set, you're like, oh, yes, was I'm done, I'm going home, going to sleep. And you're done, you're like, damn, I finally got my freedom, like, now you home, now you up for another like three, four hours, because you finally have time to just not do shit. You're like, damn, then you wake up the next day, cook you a nice shoot. There's nothing I love more than that night shoot. You guys are crazy. Nice shoots are fun, though. They're fun. It's just like for me, it's like, it's easier when it's like 11, 12 o'clock on set. And I'm like, it's easier to be awake at the crib or somewhere else, or for some reason, when I'm at work, I'm like, yo, this, I can't stay awake. As soon as you get home, I get that crazy burst of energy. I'm like, yo, bro, what is going on, bro? Get me a early shoot, though. Um, early shoot. I guess we kind of maybe talk about this, but recently favorite TV show of all time. Hmm, of all time, I don't know if I have one of all time. But Entourage oddly enough has been like a, like, a comfort show for a week. My boy! Entourage actually has been a comfort show for the longest time now. Like, I remember after you told me to watch it, I was like, oh, I'm fucking with this. This is the greatest show I've ever made. It's such a great show. Such a great show. Um, it's crazy when I just get text from Joey for our own, like, because I'm not, like, I weirdly after all these years, I'm like, I don't get fan out about anything anymore. I don't wish I did, but sometimes when, like, Joey text me, I'm like, it's pretty cool. I mean, that is, because like, when your career allows you to be in the same places and spaces as people that you've watched, like, it's like, you know, what the fuck? It's crazy. I'm 50 times, and I'm like, yeah, this is crazy. Like, what the fuck? It's been like, what, 10, 10, like, nine years since me and 50, like, really been, like, close, still crazy to me. Yeah. You never get a 50 cent. Graceful time. Best drummer to ever live. Um, uh, Vinnie Collier. And where, where, where we see, uh, what band was in? Uh, he's playing for everybody. He's a tower of power that's Steeley Dan, but, yeah, that was like real music nerdy shit. Like, he's Vinnie Collier just played for everybody. Hell yeah. That's fine. Bro, he knows ball. We were coming home the other night, and like, you know, people, we're a little tipsy in the car. Michael's just ripping Leonard Skinner the whole, I looked at him, I'm like, is this a new Michael? I'm seeing it. I blew my mind. I like straight Leonard Skinner the whole way up. Hey, man. They make great music. They make great fucking music. Um, actor, you drop everything to work with. Actor, I drop everything to work with. I'm a guy. Created. Um, everybody's going to say dozo. Dozo? Yeah, dozo. Dozo. Uh, most underrated actor, I'll go, Jeffrey Wright, I'll go, um, believe it's Andre Paul, um, Bokeem Woodbine, uh, I don't know if it's like underrated, but I'll go, I'll go Robert Pattinson. Robert Pattinson. He's Batman. How was he underrated? He's a, I think he's the goat, but I feel like, I feel like like because he's Batman, it's like he's Batman. What are you talking about? Right. His filmography is also crazy. Crazy. His range is insane. Good time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, Michael, do you have that favorite under, you have an underrated actor? I don't watch this. I don't even watch this. I was currently, I was sitting here for about 20 minutes before I could come up with a, I feel that I'm told. Yeah. I guess the one that I think that doesn't get enough respect, but does have good filmography is Bill Skarsgard who played on, um, yeah, the clown and it. It. Oh. Speaking of welcome to dairy, that's another show I watched, oh, I did watch that show. That show was fine. That show was fine. Um, something you've changed your mind about in the last year. Something I've changed my mind about in the last year. Um, I'm telling him change my mind about it last year. I'm telling him that I'm not going to be a good actor. I'm not going to be a good actor. He's really like about this music, so I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, put some respect on my boy name, man." - Cool, man, she was cool. - Nice, I was fine. - Well, I dude, I did ask, I wanna give you your fucking flowers. I think this is such a good book end on like five seasons of fucking incredible work. Like, dude, it just is so fun to see you like, grow as a human in that show as a person, everything. And like, five fucking successful years on a show was unbelievable. It's rare, and now you're getting another spin off. So, this is the beginning of origin. So, right now, if you haven't watched Raising Canaan, watch it, get it, binge it, all of it. - Watch that shit, go watch the shit on stars, right now. Watch it on stars. But, we got more common, origins is common, young Tommy, young ghost, canaan's in the bills and still. - Oh, yeah. - He's always veteran status. - I gotta tell Tim differently now, you heard? - Is that any of the title of this episode? Mike Curtis is a veteran. (laughs) - Facts, boy, I am veteran, man. - Very, very veteran. - Is there anything to promote dates, anything coming up, new stuff? - No, man, just, you know, follow, see me where you can. I was gonna say follow the IGs, and they still-- - Yeah, follow the IGs. - Is that Mike Curtis? - That's Mike Curtis? - That's Mike Curtis, yeah. - I barely post, and I bitch, I post like two, three times a year now. I'm gonna get better at it because the socials really are part of our industry, and I think now. But, yeah, that's where I'll be at, man. - How do you feel about social media? 'Cause you do a little close friends, but you really don't post much. It's just 'cause it's like, I genuinely feel like, like the shit where people are like, is that Kate? Like, I just randomly be out now, people will post for it. So it's like, I'd rather that be the thing where people catch me versus like, "Oh, look where I'm at doing the thing." - Yeah. - Like, I don't have a problem with it. - This social media stuff, it'd be just like a job sometimes. - It do. - What it is? - It is, it is a job. - But that's the thing, like, it's just like, damn, like, but it's like-- - I don't know. - It's like, I feel like at some point, maybe I'll get, I don't know, maybe I'll get somebody that runs the thing for you. But I still would want it to be in line with how I'm already doing this change, dog. He's got someone to, maybe I'll get someone to run my, 'cause it's like, he vetting out, buddy, a veteran, buddy. - Oh, man, that's what you're doing, he's the right. - Game, I was like, you know, you gotta delegate. It's like, I would be too, I would be too anal with it, pause. I'd be too, like, I'd be too, like, like, oh, I wouldn't put a cat, oh, I wouldn't say it like that. That's why I haven't got it. - Oh, I was looking to record it like that. Like, I do like, I'd be too, like, I'd be too, like, you know? - Yeah, I totally get it. That's why it's like, you know, I'll keep rocking and-- - Yeah. - You know, it'll happen when it's supposed to. - All right, follow the McCoy Curtis, Michael Rainey Jr., Gianni V. Pillow, if you follow DaVinci, unfollow him, I just, I'm gonna say that every time-- - Why did you even say that name? That's crazy, you gave me the-- - If you follow DaVinci, unfollow him right now. Michael, give us one. - The coup has it, you have it, the boy McCoy Curtis put one of boys once again. (cheering) - The Coy Curtis in the building, thank you so much, we appreciate it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Last one's in the airport, by breakfast. - By breakfast. (upbeat music) - Day one, day one. (upbeat music)

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. A background actor leaked sensitive set details on Facebook, leading to serious consequences and a warning against sharing behind-the-scenes content.
  2. The entertainment industry has become more transparent and reactive, with public figures and crew members now sharing content that can quickly go viral, altering the dynamics of filming and production.
  3. The actor reflects on the emotional and creative challenges of acting, including the difficulty of balancing a demanding schedule with personal relationships, and how the work demands patience and emotional regulation.

Summary:

The transcript details a reflective conversation about the behind-the-scenes realities of acting in television productions like *Canaan* and *Origins*. The speaker shares a cautionary tale about a background actor who leaked set details online, resulting in serious professional fallout—highlighting the risks of digital exposure in the entertainment industry. This incident underscores how quickly content can go viral and how production environments are now more vigilant, especially post-strike.

The conversation also explores the emotional toll of the acting life: long hours, disrupted personal time, and the difficulty of maintaining relationships due to unpredictable schedules. The actor emphasizes the importance of emotional balance, noting that while some days are exhausting, others offer deep connection through shared experiences on set. He describes how the evolving nature of the industry—from social media leaks to audience-driven content—has changed how actors and crews operate.

Despite challenges, he finds joy in the process, especially in the evolution of characters like Canaan and the growing chemistry in *Origins*. He also reflects on how personal habits—like looking off-camera during scenes—are instinctual and human, not flaws. The discussion ends with a note on artistic self-awareness, where actors must navigate criticism, personal growth, and the tension between creative control and audience reception.

The actor remains passionate about his craft, embracing both the chaos and the depth of the work.

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A background actor posted detailed footage of the set on Facebook, including scenes and dialogue, which caused a major upset. The leak led to the actor being banned from future work on sets, as it violated industry privacy and confidentiality rules.

Posting set content can expose sensitive storylines, character details, and production secrets. This can lead to reputational damage, loss of future work opportunities, and potential legal consequences, especially in post-strike environments where trust is low.

The actor found it wild and concerning that such content was being shared publicly, noting how quickly the entertainment industry has evolved to where public figures are now under constant scrutiny for their on-set activities.

The actor mentioned enjoying the scene where Marvin B. Canaan confronts his uncle, calling it a fun and emotionally charged moment that showcased character development and strong storytelling.

The actor explains that while long filming hours make in-person contact difficult, they’ve found partners who understand and respect their schedule, allowing for meaningful connections despite the demanding nature of the job.

Yes, the actor values authenticity, noting that real-life experiences and emotions often mirror the characters' journeys, making the performances more genuine and impactful for audiences.

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