Meet Dr. Deihl & Dr. Couldry: The Story Behind Hypno Life | Ep. 1

It's Talk Back Arizona with Bill Brady on 1100 KFNX. Let your voice be heard to talk to Bill and all of Arizona. Call 602-277-5369 in the Phoenix Metro. Stay Y. Call 866-536-1100. Good morning, Bill Brady. I'm the pulse of Arizona 1100 KFNX, a special program today with Doc HIPnosis. That means Dr. William Deal and Dr. Jennifer Coldry, good to have you with us today. Thank you. It's our honor to be here. Definitely. We appreciate the opportunity to come and speak to you today. Well, I'm looking forward to this hour. I've talked a little bit on the air about my wife and what she did, but it's remarkably similar to what you do. I want to explore it from A to Z here today because it's one of those things that a lot of people are aware of, but may not utilize, they should. It's something that some people call it new age or metaphysical, but it's something that I am amazed as I go through life at the people who will tell me something and they're doing it. So Doc HIPnosis, Mr. and Mrs. HIPnosis. Oh, thank you. How would you describe what you do from a standpoint of how it exists in the world that we populate? Well, we look at HIPnosis and what we do, our clinical practice is we actually focus on the individual and their individual strengths. We know HIPnosis is a natural state. It's something you'll go into. There's some people will say seven to ten times a day. There's some studies actually say a hundred times a day that you'll go into some form of HIPnosis. So we actually work with individuals, help them get kind of focused in on what they want because you have to know where you're going to go if you're going to get there. And then from there, we actually help facilitate that unconscious part of them to help them get where they need to go. Yeah, we help create an environment for people to come in and share some of their deepest needs in a way that is welcoming and open. I think both of us know from in our lives having at one point experience therapy that it can be an experience that is just, it's really hard to get to the root of what you need and it's hard to find someone that you feel comfortable talking to. So we very much try to create an environment where everyone is welcome and you can come in and share with us what you need. Now, let me pose this question to you. You mentioned that we go into these bouts of HIPnosis multiple times during the course of a day. People I think will recognize the fact that hey, I just drove from Northern Avenue, which by the way, they've got to correct that. Northern Avenue should really be central Avenue because true Northern Avenue would be some where up in Cape Creek or California. But I digress. But the thing is you could find yourself getting on the 51 and getting all the way to Lincoln drive and say, where was I? They call that highway HIPnosis thing. Give us credit. Yeah. But is that what you're talking about when we kind of were conscious, we're operating a vehicle, but we've kind of chucked out for a couple of minutes and we're somewhere else. Yeah, you lose a little track of time. There's another, some people do it a lot on their phones because it's a really powerful hypnotic device is that they'll focus on the phone and people can walk in the room and they don't see them or they don't hear them call their name. Kids go through that. They're up to seven years older in the constant state of HIPnosis. So each individual depends on how they go into it. What we do, what our job is, how I look at, we find out how they get there. And then we use their mind for the power of good and step going towards the negative, we move them towards the positive. Why do people think it's a pejorative term like weird or strange or something like that when it is used successfully by professionals such as yourself to actually help people by putting them in a different state? Well, I think it's over the years and I think Dr. Culdrey because we do shows, we do entertainment and it can give a false impression that there's a level of control that's happening. It's mind control. Absolutely not. If anything, we're giving you the power of your control over your own body, your own mind. But up on stage, you'll see people, um, clocking like a chicken. They want a clock like a chicken, not because they want cheap eggs, but they're clocking like a chicken because they want to be the life of the party, the center of attention, the star of the show. Right. They're an environment where they get permission to just be a little bit freer and sometimes some of those subconscious desires just come out because it's, it's okay for you to be standing up on stage dancing like your magic mic. But you might not do it necessarily. And a corporate party or something. Other times. So we're just using their motivations to get them there. You know, realize that since 1958, clinical hypnotherapy, and that's what we do has been, um, approved by the American Medical Association. The Vatican has, um, approved us since 1954. So we're actually real science that it's the neuroscience of your mind. Let's talk about the mind. I've heard that even somebody like Einstein only used 5% of his, his actual intelligence. Does that make sense? It does and doesn't. That's some really a older philosophy. Yeah. Looking at the brain, how it's structured, people thought, but they have done enough brain scans and tests that they see all parts of the brain lights up. They're using it, but maybe not to its fullest potential. Is it possible for people to learn how to access more of their mind? You know, me, the worst thing that could happen to me in this life would paint dementia or Alzheimer's. So I'm watching on a daily basis to make sure that I'm not swimming into that. And I'm amazed at what I can remember. If I can remember someone's first name, I can remember the last name. So I try to do that a lot to keep the mind active and to burn off any of the accumulated plaque in the brain. But let me veer in on this here. And if you're just joining us, folks, Doc hypnosis is with us. It's really Mr. and Mrs. hypnosis. Dr. William Deal and Dr. Jennifer Caldrey, who operate as Doc hypnosis. If you have questions beyond the program today, call them. It's 602-314-1907. 602-314-1907. What can hit this is the fastball down over the middle of the plate. And both of you have a bad soul. What can hypnosis do for someone? If somebody's hearing this today, I don't believe in that, Jess. What can it do for someone if they explore it? It depends on what they want. But we help individuals all the time with anxiety, stopping smoking, addictions, helping lose weight, help them better goal setting, getting a motivation, getting into or out of burnout, better, not say into. That's out of burnout. Don't get them into burnout. But we also, because hypnosis is great for neuroplasticity. And especially with what Dr. Caldrey does, she uses sound as well during her not, not hypnosis sessions to help stimulate the mind. So we've helped individuals just because there are certain studies with frequencies, far as Alzheimer's and dementia. And she can actually talk about that. 40Hz in particular, there's been some research. I can't remember the name of the gentleman right now off the top of my head, but there was research using 40Hz. And they had a small patient population where they agreed to use a 40Hz frequency listening to it via headphones. For approximately 30 minutes a day, and I believe it was three or four times a week for four weeks. And they found some amazing results. Some people were able to kind of dial back some of the symptoms that they were having. And other people found that they did not get worse, which is also a wonderful finding. Because it's simply just a frequency where you wouldn't imagine that a sound or a sound weight itself could impact something that profite. Well, I have heard, and I think that I've heard it recently in some ads for hearing aids, that hearing problems can cause misdiagnosed dementia. So there may be a connection there. So somebody comes to you and let's say they have some issue, maybe managing stress. I would imagine, say, with managing stress, if you were brought up by manic parents who made you crazy, that you do with the stresses of life, they make you crazy. But the question is, was somebody who has a stress issue? Maybe they've got a big job and they've got a lot on their plate. What can hypnosis do in regard to that? Well, first thing we do in evaluation with, you just said something great. It could be how they were raised that got them into this stress state all the time. So we would actually give them their mind options of how to handle that stress differently. We might even have them do what's called regression therapy where they actually go back to their childhood and help fill in those gaps or give that loving, supporting energy that they need at that period of time. And it's amazing how something simple as that can make a huge difference. If it's a job situation, it's okay. We can help them put up better boundaries for themselves. We can help them step into their own power knowing that they're, the stress might be coming from, and I've had individual saying, I feel powerless. Well, we can point out to their minds that, no, you have power here, power here, power here. Let's focus in on this. And you're doing that while they are in a hypnotic state, we do an interview and then we do that while they're into a hypnotic state. And if you think about it, if your nervous system is constantly stuck in fight or flight, you can get to the point where it doesn't remember what it feels like not to be constantly on alert. And one of the benefits of sound therapy itself is that it can get your nervous system to relax. Sound can affect your body before words ever can, can resonate with you. Okay. We're coming back in a moment. Back hypnosis is with us today. It's actually Mr. and Mrs. hypnosis, Dr. William Deal and Dr. Jennifer Coldry. When we come back, I want to bring this down to a level of in dealing with people, their psychology through hypnosis, for instance. How much are we undoing what has been imbued into them over lifetime? We'll be back in just a moment if you would like to get in touch with Dr. William Deal or Dr. Jennifer Coldry or both of them. 602-314-1907, 602-314-1907. Back in a moment on the pulse of Arizona 1100 KFNX. Your voice be heard. Welcome back 1122 on this Saturday morning. Doc hypnosis is with us today. That would be the couple of Dr. William Deal and Dr. Jennifer Coldry. We're talking about hypnosis, but we'll get into some other things as we go along. Good to have both of you here today. Well, thank you. Happy to be here. Now, a question you had mentioned, Doc. May I call you Doc? Please call me Doc. Most people call me Doc. But what are they called? Beautiful. Oh my gosh. That's kind. Jennifer is fine. So you had mentioned hypnotizing CEOs. Yes. Tell me because again, you were dealing in this world with people who see some things as like the theme from what was that TV show that the outer limits. Right. Right. They see it as spiral in the background. Yeah. They see it as that kind of thing. But tell me, who were the people that approached you for hypnosis? And what are they? They don't give names because they're hypolos. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. What I know you knew and I've got to do that. Ethics are very important. But when they approach you, where have they gotten in their life to where they want to take this step? And what are they hoping to change? Wow. We have all walks of life. They come to doc hypnosis wellness center. We actually have, you know, sometimes retirees. I work with individuals that are going through cancer treatments to help them get their appetite back or help them transition. I have worked with CEOs, as you said earlier. And sometimes they want to be more on top of their game, better focus, better goal setting. Because they need to learn how to relax because they have a hundred to 200, a thousand people that depend on them and their performance. So I've had professional athletes. Yeah. Yeah. No. Thank you. I have a brain heart right there. Professional athletes, golfers, baseball players, especially this spring training just got done. And golfers come to me for the Yips as well as I just did a podcast on the running, running Yips. Oh, yeah. Runners definitely. Yeah, they go through the same thing. So really every walk of life from stopping to smoking to weight loss to anxiety. Yeah. I'm going to relate something. I'm not going to name the person. Please. But he's a very successful musician. Family of academics. So he went to Julia. And as he tells me his story, he says, I went to Julliard and then after Julliard, I had to go somewhere else to un-warn everything I've learned to Julliard, which is a very famous music school. But when people are coming to you, whether CEOs or athletes, and this is what I've said, is people who get going about AI and I've said to them, you do realize that that thing that sets the top of your neck, that's still the thing that controls an awful lot. Now, whether you're using a royal typewriter or word process or AI, it's that thing that makes us human that still affects a lot of the judgments we make and the habits that we have and things like that. So when you are dealing with somebody in terms of hypnosis, it's that what you're essentially wrestling with, they're human processes that are grooved and they've become a hardened behavior and you have to kind of get them out of that. I think we're creatures of habit, that's an old saying. But I kind of like looking at it, if you look at your mind, we start going down a path. And if we go outside our house, there's a whole bunch of tall grass, we keep on talking that path. At first, it's not so easy and then it becomes easier and easier and sooner or later we put pavers down. And that's kind of like a rut that we get into. And what we're trying to do is give their mind options, healthier options, to get them where they need to go and how they want to go. So at first, we do a combination of hypnosis and cognitive behavioral therapy to give them things that they can do every day throughout the day to help start moving that path, that track to something new. Do you two have different types of patients or do you work with the same people? That's interesting. I think that I think they're quite the same to be honest. I mean, people are dealing with people are people of course. They're all dealing with the same types of issues and things that we want to shift in our life. And how much more powerful are you, as like you mentioned, being your own processor? How much more powerful are you if you can get your subconscious on board so that it's working with you instead of pulling against you? You know that little voice in your head, if you can get that voice in your head going, you're amazing. Look at what you've done. Look at how far you've come. Then you can accomplish so much more than if you're constantly trying to fight that inner voice, you know, saying things that aren't nice. And you're in control of it. I think that's the thing that people forget. When you are dealing with people medically, I had a doctor say to me one time we were doing a series of interviews and we were talking about the things like heart disease and cholesterol and stuff like that. He said, "Well, you know what?" He said, "Yeah, can't pick your parents." So I mean, I mean, I look at this, I had a friend when I was a kid. He was a golfer. He was a golfer, a better golfer. Remember, we were both on the practice tee and his father was there with him. And he shanked a ball and the father's, you know, "Joke God, dammit! This is what happened to the golf course." Like, oh man. And Joe looks like a little boy. over at me like if the earth would just swallow me up. Now the father was a hard taskmaster. - Yes. - But Joe was a good golfer and went on to MIT. So dad was a real hard driver, but the net result was that Joe got good at stuff because his dad was hard driving. But if you're using that as an example, when you're dealing with people, whether it's the CEO, whether it's a woman who has had unfulfilling relationships and she wants to maybe make better choices, how do you deal with that through hypnosis? - Well, let's take Joe's example that you just shared. 20 years down the road, he was a hard driver. He did well, he became professional, but then over a period of time, that negative self-talk, that, oh, that GD, do this, do that, it's still in his head. So one of the things we actually do when someone says, well, yeah, I put myself down, we ask him, whose voice is it? And they go, and they do a blank stare. And that blank stare is them trying to figure out whose voice is. And sometimes we hear, oh, he is my dad. Or it's mine. Or they go, I don't know. And we start doing, finding out who that voice is. And then we work on changing that voice. What about if we change that voice and you had some like Donald Duck? Could you take it seriously? - Right. - Yeah. - So all of a sudden, they're like, no. And they, I said, now that combination, we work on changing that voice, but habit, they have to participate in changing that voice too. Because they're in a habit consciously. And we'll take care of the unconscious part. - And you hit on something very important, but to the person needs to want the change. - Yes. - 100%. - We can't perform. We do have people that come in and think that you can perform miracles, or you can make me a better person. It's like, some of that is on you. You have to put in the work. You have to be wanting that change. - Well, it's like to say with people with a substance abuse problem, you got to bottom out to the point of work. You want the change more than your coach or counselor does. We will continue in a moment. Doc HIPnosis is with us. That's Dr. Jennifer Koldry and Dr. William Deal. And you can reach them at 602-314-1907-602-314-1907. News time at 1130. - It's Doc Vak Arizona. With Bill Brady on 1100KFNX, let your voice be heard to talk to Bill and all of Arizona. Stay wide, call 866-536-1100. - Good morning, Bill Brady. On the pulse of Arizona 1100KFNX, we are having a blast today with Doc HIPnosis. That would be Dr. William Deal and Dr. Jennifer Koldry. Beyond the program, you can reach them at 602-314-1907-602-314-1907. So as people come to you, doctors, as people come to you, what do they most commonly reach out to you to deal with in terms of hypnosis? - I think each person has a niche. For me, a lot of people come to me because of anxiety, but traditionally it's usually weight loss or stop smoking or anxiety. Again, are the top three that most people go. I know that American Medical Association actually really recommends for pain management hypnosis. So those are, I would say the top four. - Definitely. We also have couples sometimes that come to us as well because they want to work on just communication, being able to express what they need with each other in an open environment. And we do joint sessions sometimes where I'll meet with the female client and he'll meet with the male client, or vice versa, if they want a different perspective. - Here's a question that we like to think there's the book, I'm okay, you're okay. - Right. In my family growing up, my sister and my in the conclusion, you're okay, we're not. (laughing) We had hypercritical parents, but the question I ask is, we look at things from an educational standpoint and we say, okay, you're through 12th grade, you got a high school education, you go on to college, you could have four years of college or as John Belushi in Animal Houset. - Seven years of college. (laughing) But you also could have graduate school, you could med school, law school, et cetera. You spend a lot of time in school to learn facts. - Right. - But in terms of becoming your best person and looking at it from a standpoint of hypnosis, I would look at this as a form of graduate school that okay, you got the facts down. You took the SAT, the LSA T's and all of that stuff, but you may still be carrying things that are gonna make your life more difficult. Let's say that CEO, he may be technically good. In fact, this is oftentimes the case with companies that are entrepreneurial first generation companies. The Steve Jobs has the technical ability to create stuff, but then they wind up firing him because he can't manage people and had to go through that evolution. So for people who are successful in whatever it is they're doing, do they need hypnosis as kind of a graduate school to be able to better learn how to refine and manage their personal self? I would say yes, hypnosis could be definitely used to be help you become a better manager because our management styles are usually coming from how we are as you said, we are raised. So if our parents didn't have a great management style maybe they ruled with an iron fist, all of a sudden we're in a business situation doing an iron fist and we have turnover constantly and turnover is a big expense. So let's understand how to connect with those individuals, motivate them through their own energy, not your energy. And all of a sudden that CEO has more energy, he's living life better because we've taught him or we've taught their employees how to use their personal energy, personal motivation instead of tapping into his dictatorship. Definitely and I think there's a lot more to be said about like you said additional education. Like once you get the paper I think you really learn just how much you don't know. You can go all the way up through the doctorate. I remember doing my comprehensive exams and I'm thinking there's so much that I still have to learn in this field. But that's also one of the beautiful things, especially about the mind and mental health as well as opera which is my other love and music. You can never exhaust the field. Now one of the things people do with golf, people like golf. - Yes they do. - They also like playing the game well. They don't like having a duck cook or shake things. They don't like that. But they're willing to accept the instruction and advice of a golf professional, which could be $500 or more. They're willing to accept that because they want to get better. But I look at this that almost all of us will come to things in our lives with a handicap. That's a golf expression. - Yes it is. They will come to things with a handicap in terms of how they do things. If you for instance in golf, if your grip is wrong, you could very well be cutting across the ball, causing a slice. Your game's gonna be miserable. - He knows his golf. - He can talk a good game. - I mean, but on the other side of it, though the same thing is true in an organization. I work for a guy who is a very, very smart guy. He's passed away and has been gone for I think almost 10 years. Died of Louis body dementia, which was God's way of saying, I get the last laugh. - Oh man. He was a misery, the very smart guy, but he just never knew when to stop drove people crazy. Ultimately, He wanted to be successful in the worst way emphasis the worst way and And as a result with great natural talent he was not able to control himself To the point of where he could fully deploy that talent. Oh Definitely I think in music in particular right you spend so much time learning it like you mentioned your friend that went to Juilliard I'm tying this into your golf metaphor here as well. So it's not totally left field But you you spend all of this time right like he said He spent all this time learning it and then he had to go away and unlearn it It's almost you have to get to the point of mastery in a field To where then it can become fun again But without that foundation you don't have that level of mastery and also To in in regard to the other example I gave who was a very very bright guy. I learned a lot from him But you also have to learn how to work with people and if you're carrying certain bad habits out of your childhood because Your mother was Cruella Deville and your father was Fensalum Bardy That's a great combination Imagine that marriage No dogs in your house But if you know when you're looking at that and what they what they want I saw Vensalum Bardy's Daughter interviewed one time Vensalum Bardy was the great coach. Oh, yeah, I mean by Packers Saw his daughter interviewed one time and she said I really Didn't have a relationship with my father. He was never there And so but it were you have people who pick up this baggage Which in one sense it's the propellant that Helps them to get to greatness in the other sense it destroys relationships it destroys marriages It is counterproductive after a while I give the example of the tech entrepreneurs who have this great idea and It they're good with it to a point before the company begins to scale They're like you're destroying what you built I think Michael Gerber actually put it he called them People get entrepreneurial seizures and they are they are great at what they do But they don't know how to put the structure together so they have a seizure how to effectively work with people So a lot of times we work to get and work with everybody in in some way of Getting them out of their own way and getting back to what they actually love It was the creation what they loved not the management of people So now we can give them the tools unconsciously to actually help them and also conscious tools to help them keep them on the right track Definitely we joke often that he is the big idea person and I'm the structure person. Oh my god So as soon as he's finished And I have many years in project management information technology project management So it's I think that's my default setting for lack of better way to say it So he'll start thinking of a great idea and I'm immediately thinking how would you do that? What would you need? And he's like no, no, I'm just thinking of the idea and I'm like wait no, that's not how it works You have to think of the big picture. You know, oh yeah, we can do this and then Build it back. Let's go. We'll figure it out later. So her nickname is killjoy And sometimes yeah, but no way is she's uplifting because she actually figures out how to get there Well, you need so that's the thing you need I'm gonna keep him grounded. That's that's that's the thing that in any organization You need people with different skills set I remember reading a book about getting the people the right people on the bus and then in the right seats Yes, true that very true in that And then and using that analogy that's actually what we're doing with your mind Getting those people in the right seat in your mind so you can work together not against each other Yeah, you could decide who's driving It doesn't it doesn't have to be your mom You know, it doesn't have to be your dad, you know, you get to drive. Yeah, you get to drive and you can decide Well, I think it's I think it's important I think Put in this context Nobody wants to be the remember the the skit with the watch you are getting He has one in his pocket. I carry one just so people just in case Have a pocket watch yeah, it's like I do if you need it. It works But the the thing is I think put in the context of And I use the golf analogy a lot because there's nobody to place golf that says you know what I'm really completely comfortable with my game I stink and I'm really happy being a terrible golfer. There's not anybody Ever gets To the tea and says I hope I hit it in the woods They're Nature back to nature it's a great view That's why I spend so much time in the woods and the sand and the water but but the the essence of it is I I think I'm going to get your opinion on this I think we all want to be our best But we are like the picture of golfer with the With the rope or the string attached tying us down unless we can snip those things And free ourselves from them and that I would think Is what the the constructive use of hypnosis is all about exactly and being able to identify that you even have that string on you Because sometimes you can't see it you're so close to it. It's like he was mentioning the voice in your head It's just it's been there for so long that you forget that you can change that tape You don't have to play the same thing you can make it a different story. It's yours Yeah, 100% and with you know you said something about um You I got off on the the voice of my head so I lost my train of thought so I'll let you go on to your next question I don't have anymore questions. Oh my goodness. No, I have to remember. I have to remember what I was going to say All right quick break here. We will be back This is uh This is doc HIPnosis Dr. William deal and Dr. Jennifer coldry And we will come back and talk to you about what they do in their practice You can reach them beyond the program today 602 3141907 602 3141907 1148 Bill Brady on the pulse of Arizona 1100 KFNX Let your voice be heard. It's talkback Arizona on 1100 KFNX Call 602 2775369 in the Phoenix Metro statewide call 8665361100 He is 1150 Bill Brady on the pulse of Arizona 1100 KFNX doc HIPnosis is with us today uh Dr. William deal and Dr. Jennifer coldry and beyond the program you can reach them at 602 3141907 602 3141907 I would urge people I mentioned earlier that my wife was involved in this kind of thing. She was a psychotherapist. She also was a certified hypnotherapist She was an astrologer. She she loved this This kind of this kind of thing so I was Kind of exposed to it and learned from her in regard to it Important thing people can draw from this is that This is a tool That they can that they can use they They may think well I would never go to a hypnotherapist. Why not? But why not they might be able to do more for youth in the the classically trained psychologist or psychiatrist Because now I let me get your your thoughts on the following statement. Please there are There are people who because of various different Personality issues and multiple personality stuff like that that kind of thing they may need heavy duty therapy But there are other people who is we talked about they just The parenting wasn't perfect so they developed some Habits that are counterproductive to getting to where they want to get to But hypnosis can get them there in terms of helping them to understand Why they continue to behave in this way when it's not it's not conducive to what they really want to achieve No 100 a hundred percent with that that each person's different and we have to approach each person as their own Universe I like looking at it and everybody goes oh, I just have stress. Well, what stress? Really every you know, there's three people in this room right now There's three different definitions of stress stress will actually manifest it in three different ways. So we um We want show is that it can be trained too. Yeah, you can be you can pick it up. I've had phobias working with individuals. Let's say I had this little girl that was scared of fire. She'd never had a situation with her fire, but her mother did. And her and her mother never had a problem with fire, but her ground her mother did. So it was actually passed down through generations and we had to sever that tie to that generation to break that phobia. So each person's kind of different. And I like looking at it in that way that everybody has their own universe. And that's why I love what I do is because I don't put people in boxes because those labels I have a PhD in psychology. For me, I didn't learn that much in school. I learned law theory, but when I went to got into the practice, practice, I started learning so much more because the human mind, the human dynamic is so vast, so fascinating. And there's an old saying by Huna, whatever works is therapy. So I'm not here to judge. Let's find out what works for you. And the, the, the, I'm going to cut you off, Jennifer. But the, the, the, the thought that I just had is that most people are probably pretty much the same in that we all have things to work on. Oh, yes. And if we want to be successful, we got to figure out the whole game, not just the technical part of the game. Well, definitely. And we also need to understand that human beings are emotional creatures. And there's nothing wrong with having emotions. And I think in particular, men in general, you're just not encouraged to share how you feel. You're not encouraged to talk to your friends as much. I mean, you're supposed to be, you don't are manly. Yeah, yeah. It's like, what is a man? He did that. Yeah. He did. So around the lot, it's fabulous. But we, we do also work in tandem with psychiatrists and other psychologists as well. Yes. We don't consider what we do a replacement for mental health therapy. And we, we just, we support everyone and, and their journey. And we want to help you get a shift. And we want to help you get to where you want to go. That's what we do. And on that note, let me ask this question. Dr. William Deal and Dr. Jennifer Coldry. They are in practice in Phoenix. You can reach them at 602-314-1907. 602-314-1907. For people hearing this program today, who are saying, yeah, maybe I could benefit from that. How does it work? When somebody starts with you, what happens and how do you deal with them in terms of helping them to become their best self? It's very simple. When someone comes on in, we first have them do some paperwork to kind of understand where they want to go, how they want to be. If you, once again, if you don't know where you're going, how do you know you got there? So we really map out where they want to go. Then we do an interview process that old adage of measure twice, cut once. We ask a boatload of questions because we want to get into the psychological, sociological, the triggers that they're having to help them now put a plan together. The very first time we actually do some testing to see how they take themselves into hypnosis because as a natural process, we help them guide them into that state and then we do hypnotic sessions. So we actually guide them into that state and start pointing them into the direction they want to go, giving suggestions, direct suggestions. Sometimes we use metaphors. Sometimes we do other tools to help them make that shift for themselves to get them there. Exactly. We can also incorporate sound therapy as well and guided meditation if that's something that the client would like to explore. We found some profound effects for people. I have people come into my office and I joke, we have the doctor deal, that I should take before and after pictures just so that you can see where their shoulders are. I mean, when they come in there up by their ears because that's where a lot of people hold their attention. When they go to leave, all of a sudden they're taller. And Dr. Koldry hasn't said it, but she actually is the first person certified in IEMT. And IEMT is actually a form of trauma therapy and she works with individuals to help them get passed traumas that they've gone through. So each person is different, but sometimes you might not think you have a trauma trauma or PTSD is not just for military or police or first responders. It's for the housewife. It's for the husband. You go through traumas all the time. You just have to know that something's not firing or working right. Now we've talked a lot about, we've got about a minute left here. We've talked a lot about the CEOs, the professionals. What can you do for I've read a letter to Dear Abbey or something like that recently. And she said something like my husband after 30 years has decided that we should see other people. How do you deal with something like that? Somebody who was a beautiful and loyal wife and suddenly the husband goes around the bend. But how do you deal with that through hypnosis to help that person? A great deal of that is holding space for someone as well. And understanding that it happens to a lot of people that a relationship can be difficult. It can end abruptly and helping someone just understand that. Well, thank you for being here today. This was outstanding doc hypnosis. Dr. William Deel and Dr. Jennifer Caldry, you can reach them at their practice at 602 31419070602 314190707 Bill Brady on the pulse of Arizona 1100 KFNX.