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Medicaid Pirates | History Hyenas

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Medicaid Pirates | History Hyenas

The podcast explores the history and evolution of Medicaid fraud in the United States, tracing it from individual physician misconduct in the 1960s to large-scale corporate fraud in the 1980s and 1990s. It details schemes such as false billing, ghost patients, and kickbacks, emphasizing how systemic profit motives and bureaucratic gaps enabled widespread fraud. A central controversy arises when the host accuses Somali communities of being major perpetrators, which is immediately challenged as racially biased and inconsistent with documented patterns of fraud involving other groups like Russians. The analysis shifts to argue that fraud is not a product of culture or ethnicity but of systemic failures—such as profit-driven healthcare, weak oversight, and a lack of transparency. The host highlights how institutions, including doctors and insurers, prioritize financial gain over ethical responsibility, leading to exploitation of vulnerable populations. The episode also critiques media and political figures for using conspiracy theories to gain attention, framing such behavior as part of a broader culture of deception. While the narrative includes jokes and personal anecdotes—like cold food at family gatherings or references to Nick’s appearance—it ultimately serves as a critical examination of how greed, desperation, and structural flaws fuel fraud, urging greater accountability and reform in public healthcare systems. The discussion concludes by suggesting that true solutions lie in systemic change, not in scapegoating specific ethnic or cultural groups.

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You can come see me New Year's Eve. I'm in Red Bank, New Jersey at the Count Basie Theater. If you're looking for New Year's Eve plans, I got two shows. Count Basie Theater, christycomedy.com, or historyonhisisback.com. Enjoy this episode about Medicaid fraud. And let me just give you a little bit of friendly advice. If you're a Somalian, you might want to skip this one. I'm going to give you a little bit of a tour of the city. um i don't know i have relatives who listen to so i just say the food's good everywhere the food's good everywhere it's good everywhere yeah but at my family the food's just a little less cold yeah yeah i did make a joke to my family that i did call the health department on her uncle because of how uh cold food was and you can get salmonella yeah yeah it's just a little cold you can't serve cold you can't serve you gotta get your timing down yeah you do have to get your timing you need a meat thermometer and if if your family needs one i can take the one i have out of my ass right now and let them borrow it yeah and if you serve cocktail shrimp on the original plastic from shop right yeah then the health department should come and shut you down that's not good i don't want to feel like i'm at nick's house i was gonna say nick is in the corner eating cold oatmeal that he made at his house because he's on snap benefits so the kid is just eating snap oatmeal yeah and the fact is is that people were mad at us and nick is choosing to be on snap am i wrong about that guys like if you go to a house and you see the shrimp cocktail on the original plastic not good that it was bought on you know where they just take the hood off and then put it out it's not good i want the illusion yes i want the illusion that you boiled it yourself i want it on a nice clay yeah display circle i want it on a plate take one of your plates i don't want to pull a shrimp cocktail off i don't care what plate it is i don't care if you have to take your father's urn off the plate it's sitting on put the shrimp somewhere don't put it on the shop right where i could still see the price exactly i don't want that i don't want that and unfortunately that that may have happened it may have happened in the house or we're just talking peripherally about that probably happened somewhere on long island i'm just saying you know uh my mother-in-law can cook her head off it's oh she's made i've had her food she's great it's just really good yeah um but sometimes some of the extended family yeah the food could be just you arrive it's just a little cold and when i mean cold it's like cold cold i'm talking about like cold cold like like actually you have to you have to tell your daughter it's like don't put that in your mouth yeah don't eat that so cold you're going like at what point did you pull this out of the oven and at what point did people come um right i'm assuming sometimes you can deduct how much time has gone by between when the food preparation started when the party started just by the bite you take a bite and you're going this is four hours this is four hours of sitting right i just bit into four hours of sitting there yeah and that's just not good yeah i don't want to be i'm at age where i'm just happy to be with people no i need the food to be good yeah because i'm at an age where i don't go clubbing i don't talk to women yeah i don't drink that much anymore yeah so it's like what i take pleasure in is being able to go the food was great right and if that's not happening then depression sets in then that's my party now well let me ask you this do you think now because of that incident you will not be going there for thanksgiving next year get a divorce because of it it's what it is yeah yeah i think i just may get a divorce and be like you know what you go to that party yeah we're just gonna divorce for that thanks for thanksgiving period i'll be going to my family you'll be going well that's what's been happening in my house is now you know we've had traditions where like we go to this family member's house on thanksgiving we go to that family member's house on christmas eve and uh my wife wants to switch up the protocol yeah and wants to tell my mother who we just you know historically always go to christmas eve she said i want to do christmas eve at our house and i want to change up the tradition and i said well you're gonna have to tell my mother that because i'm not yeah i'm not gonna tell my mother that we're not going to christmas eve and i'm not gonna tell my her house for christmas eve it's not happening yeah and jazz like well either you tell her i tell i said well that's gonna have to be you honey because i'm not gonna be around when you break the news to my mother that for the first time in the 41 years of my life i'm not going to my aunt's house for christmas eve yeah yeah it's a tough one it's a tough one yeah because i said why can't we just do things on christmas day and then you know it's that woman response she's like why can't they do it on christmas day and i said yeah i just this is why it's better to be gay so you've always gone to your aunt's house for christmas eve always and now ed's house meaning downstairs so you got downstairs yeah yeah a couple blocks away yeah we went a couple blocks away yeah so so i i fucking love how brooklyn your life is yeah i yeah my aunt my i had one aunt lives downstairs one aunt lives right across myrtle average yeah yeah so two ants i just want to look at you and say the words ocean parkway it's what it is i just want to say parkway parkway your face comes with the word parkway that's good because i lived i grew up right off the jackie robertson parkway yeah you're just a park you got parkway voice and parkway face i do i yeah yeah so you got bag of bagel you got a bag of bagels life yeah you just day old bag of bagels yeah with philadelphia schmear it's one of the stove is french bread shout out glendale bagels shout out fetchers shout out all the ridgewood spots yeah me and jesse we just grew up on la bagel delight oh la bagel delight is awesome yeah la bagel delight is one of the that was one of the best bagels i've ever had but to be honest middle village bagels great these i think these may be the best bagels in all the bagels i've ever had all of the tri-state area town bagel when we went i remember when we uh shot something out in plain view we went to town bagel remember when we shot at jim the jew serpico's house yeah jim the jew yeah jim the jew shout out his sourdough bread he's left the entertainment industry now he just makes bread he makes bread it's just what yeah it's just what happens just what happens but he makes excellent bread he makes excellent bread excellent pizza he's also half uh italian half italian half jew he's jesse jesse the jew and jim the jew right now i'm just saying if you have jew half italian just learn italian yeah till the till the till the heat it calms down nick i forgot did we say you're from honduras or venezuela who gives a fuck just how much does it cost to clean my house well no well i want to make sure i want to make sure because we have got 11 u.s warships on the coast of venezuela so i want to know if i'm looking at the enemy or not we're good uruguay chile and ecuador yeah that's it okay so not so anta you're not with the venezuelans at all i mean i'm down with all latinos what am i gonna do okay yeah he's down they're all unified except if the white man's not in the picture then they kill each other yeah that's the white man is the alien the only thing that's going to get the unify like the white nations is the aliens and the um the browner people have already had the aliens in right and those white people right because when we're not around they just slaughter each other sure and then the white people come along and then they can all unite and hate the white people right right yeah well i think we're at a point now in our history where we're just going to have to you know we're going to have to either things are falling apart the seam so either aliens are going to have to come from another planet or i mean us is going to have to start a war with somebody uh because i don't think that we're going to get out of the economy without a big war we need something to go on i think you know what's happened in minnesota is a little bit of a big big big medicaid scam and i don't blame the somalis you know what i blame i blame the united states government for making these people uh bored yeah you import somalis you know what somalis like to do yeah they like to play in the bathtub with pirate ships what it is so when they got here they should have given them pirate ships so then they would have something to do just let them fucking swim around what it is and try to take down you know you should have hired them in the coast guard yes you want to stop drugs coming into the country yeah what you do is you employ the somalis to be the coast guard to to yeah to catch the ships with the cocaine yeah they're good at that they've been doing it for a long time yeah i don't know why there's one i don't know why there's one incidence of somalian medicare fraud in florida when you could just get them working at the caribbean the ride and then they can scratch that it's there exactly instead of you know having to do other stuff exactly so i don't know but people are not thinking exactly mundo it's like you got to look at the community strengths that you're bringing in sure right so it's like everyone's got a strength you want to uh get your car factory going or whatever you got to bring in the eastern hammies and just growing japanese people want to make cars here you bring in what you do is you get the japanese over you open up sushi restaurants you put holes on the floor and that's what they do you put mats next to the holes they shoot in the hole they got the mat to sit down they got the sushi everything's chopsticks everywhere then they want to come that's right you build a factory you gotta you gotta and you give them samurai swords yeah you can't bring in a bunch of somalis and be like hey guys you want to do you want to get into justice no you want to go to school to be lawyers they're like no we like to steal stuff yeah we're off a ship yeah so like ladder 14 that's who we're good at we're pirates right so put us down there in the gulf of america yeah and have us catch some of these cocaine boats now the somalia medicare fraud this is one of the biggest social service fraud schemes in history this is a real hit to the flagrant to uh listenership yes they got i mean what does elon omar say about this one elon elon omar is um and tim waltz are are saying that it's just racism it's targeted tim waltz who supposedly might go to jail now this is big this is tim waltz is a gay guy he's a gay guy yeah so this one is big yeah and speaking of minnesota i did have a joke last night at the jersey shore roast and i'm going to say at patreon that was a i thought it was a good one and it and it bombed big but it did well with the crew so that's how you know i think it was a good joke i think so yeah so all right wait i'll just give you one i'll just i'll just say this one give it a teaser then we'll get well i'll just give you the joke okay on the i said that i looked up mike the situation and i said i said mike i really hate you i wish you got arrested by derek chauvin so it's just a cute little minnesota joke it's a little bit that that uh ronnie laughed at and the rest of the crowd was a little horrified but the crew said that was their favorite one yeah yeah yeah so we got more patreon.com tv history hyenas yeah there's no way that makes it see there's no way to make no that what's going to make tv is probably them introducing me and then it's going to cut because i bombed for the rest of the show yeah minnesota has really been in the national news i'm okay with losing minnesota just because just because what minnesota i just think or at least putting them in a timeout i'm okay with this right with minnesota has done such awful things to their cities to their politics just they obviously are becoming like a like a new Portland what I think is maybe we give them a time out now because of this you're five years you're not in the United States and you see what happens right five years you're just out you don't get any of the funding you're just done we're done with you and then if you show us that you're ready to come back in like you would do with a child you come back in and we'll see if you play nice right because you I'm done burning the post office I'm done with the Medicare fraud I'm done with Tim Waltz I'm done with everyone just being gay in Minnesota you're just done with it I'm done with everybody everything's got to I'm not talking about gay homosexual I'm love homosexual people I'm talking about straight guys being gay right I know you know what I mean I'm not talking about the homosexual when I say homosexuals that's dip those are people who have sex with other people I'm uh with the same sex I'm 1000% always okay with them when I say you're gay yeah just mean that I mean you're a straight guy that's acting gay that's what I get it it's um if you don't know the rules then you shouldn't be playing the game it's what it is Minnesota is not a homosexual it's gay it's gay right it's just a gay place and now the thing about Medicaid fraud is it's not unique you can't just blame the and they don't like it when you call they don't like it when you call them Somali what do you have Somalian they're Somali right they're Somali Somali yeah because it's not exclusive because also Somali uh you know they have this big Medicare fraud but also the Russians are very historically very involved in Medicare and that's why Somalians are we typically call them the Russians of Africa right now you can say one thing you can say is the Russians do a lot of Medicaid fraud and that's okay you can't say Somalians do a lot of Medicaid fraud because um you're attacking an ethnic minority you don't want to do that sure but you can attack white Russians you can always you got if you don't know the rules don't play the game it's what it is the rules are if they're Russian you can say it and say you you want to get all the Russians out and you're okay yeah you can't say Somalians do it and you want to get the Somalians out it's not okay not okay it's not okay it's not okay that's not okay there's a there's something we did wrong to them that made them do this society has failed them in some way 100 you cannot blame them no this is our fault our fault yeah our fault yep the Russians is not our fault Somalians is our fault it's very it's this podcast it's every it's it's it's very simple and easy equation if you just want to get it right at home if you want to write this down it's just white people are bad Islam is good that's that's all you have to know and then if you follow those rules yeah you're good to go that's right Islam good white back that's right that's right you don't somehow Islam got into this protected category Nick just Nick just went and hit the rug yeah Nick's ready to just start facing Mecca Nick's a muzzy big Nick's got a face that looks like it passed away during the wounded knee battle yeah it's what it is yeah yeah um so Nick looks like one of those like Native Americans that joined the Confederacy right yeah they fought they fought they got him they they took him off his homeland yeah they just put it a great jacket on him yeah they made him shape his beard different but the kids real name is Sacagawea yeah yeah yeah you know how like Qatar it's so funny yeah now Qatar is like paying these right-wing influencers to go to Qatar sure they're all posting like I can't believe how beautiful this country yeah that's exactly what they did the Confederacy did with some North uh some some Native Americans they paid them off and then the next thing you know it's a Native American with that kind of Civil War goatee yeah regular clothes just going like Arkansas is great yeah yeah Nick Nick looks like he's from the Iroquois he does yeah but then he got taken over by the south yeah now he likes wrestling yeah he just looks odd in western clothes he really does yeah it just doesn't fit him at all yeah now we're going to talk about how racist we are to certain groups who commit Medicaid fraud right after this sponsor I'm just kidding we're just kidding around kidding this has nothing to do with race religion or anything else it just has to do with human greed we're just joking around go to go get a gift from uncommon goods ways on as promised we told you we're going to talk to you about rocket money if you listen just listen to the episode about insurance fraud you know rocket money is going to help you out I mean cuz you got to have a handle on your budget and it's hard to do this with all the spreadsheets and this and that that's why rocket money just helps me out I'm never overpaying for things you know how many times I pay for Amazon Prime twice yeah because I got it my wife got it one of the kids got it and rocket money helped me just pay for it once I use rocket money I have it helps with budget it helps you when a subscription has gone up it notifies you it 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just goes yeah I'm going to the Christian communities to give gifts to good Christian boys and girls now look here's the scam okay what I think Santa is a racist Santa is a bit of a yeah he is a racist cuz my daughter gets presents from Santa and Captain Phillips's son doesn't and Santa also wears red so he's a Republican he's a Republican what it is yeah now what they do is here's what the fraudsters the Somalian people do they bill for services not rendered and that is a big thing when I was a physical therapist we would always be we would be taught in school and then we would look you know cuz people you know if you're in any type of therapy or doctor visits whatever look at your insurance bills cuz if you're getting billed for stuff that they didn't do that's Medicare fraud so you would always have to be there's all these codes 4 3 2 1.1 B and it's this whole coding system you had to learn that I forgot but it's like you have to be very very very specific what did you do and but these these does I guess this this specific Medicaid fraud from the Somali community they are able to just somehow get around it because they fabricate the documents and they inflate the cost so they just make fakes yeah and you know it's just it's a tough thing when I did social work there was people who were my clients who had jobs but just kept the jobs off the books so they could continue to get their 9-11 disaster relief and I facilitated it because when you're a social worker you just empathetic and you're not supposed to think that someone's lying right you're just supposed to go with the flow and they were like yeah I was affected by the 9-11 disaster right and I said how and they said well I was sad about it and I said here's your benefit here's your benefits yeah yeah we got money we just handed nowadays though you they could you could get in trouble for that because they would say you need needed to know better yeah yeah yeah now the things the rules have changed now now they're just looking they would take down anybody now well I think that this is something that a I can really help with in the future is they'll be able to bot like suspicious spending patterns and things like that there'll be a lot more transparency in um in allocation and spending that's why because the dod also does steal a lot of taxpayer dollars as well and that's why we encourage you if you think you're a recent victim of somalian medicaid fraud you go to rocket money.com put in the promo code hyenas and they will take care of your finances and make sure that you did not get scammed by the guy from captain phillips yeah so medicaid fraud has always been a problem since medicaid was part of lyndon b johnson's yeah great new society right k fraud's been a problem as long as somalia has been a problem last 14 just a joke just a joke 1965 i love somali people yeah i love and i like their food too they really actually do have excellent food uh the types of uh meats that they have those kind of cold meats and then you kind of eat with your hands yeah it's nice nice community yeah yeah it's just i we love somalian people i love it i love somalian women yeah are gorgeous they look they look they have one of the most unique you ever seen a somalian girl yeah yeah they're gorgeous they do they do especially somalian hotties yeah especially when they're wrapped up yeah yeah because i took a picture with ilana mar like 50 times at the mall of america yes because i just i just would go next to women who are fully wrapped up yeah and just yeah i posted and said it's me and ilana mar yeah i mean because because like i used to say you do look like a hot a hot shot democrat democratic candidate so they all look at your handing out flyers for like a hot shot democrat candidate so i look like i look like the mayor of midianapolis you look like you would be on ilan omar's street team yeah no i mean this girl is beautiful in the middle i mean look at that you are right somalians one of my best friends in college was somali right um they the women are hot what's he doing now i don't know what he's doing i haven't spoken to him recently he came to one of my shows in dc told me it was great and i was like i'm coming out to say and he left and he just left he just i still don't understand why he left he probably went back to somalia to shoot down u.s helicopters yeah yasin if you listen to this that was one of the weirdest things i haven't seen him in like 20 years and you haven't seen him since then i mean maybe the kid got kidnapped outside your show i don't know what happened right he came to the show i got him free tickets to the show and i wanted to see him and i'm like all right i'm coming out he's he and then he didn't respond then later he was like it was good i was like the whole point was to see you it's what it is what it is the kid he probably had to just get home back to his data center to start speaking to him and he was like stealing people's medicaid it was either that or he listens to the history hyenas and he heard me say some jokes and he was like i don't know who this person is anymore yeah he's not okay he's gonna listen to this episode and say what no let's go go back to the uh to the fraud stuff jesse because it is it is interesting that you there's a chance that you or someone you know has been scammed has been a victim of this scam yeah so they do all types of things it's so medicaid started in 1965 medicaid and medicare lyndon b johnson you said right johnson that's a good thing he did yeah isn't medicaid uh let me be your cousin yeah is it medicaid yannis so smart mr panos yeah because i assume he's a straight guy but anyone like you know his towel around he has a greek accent as well so let me tell you it's yannis yeah did uh uh mamdani medicaid is a socialist he no he likes it he likes medicaid he's so medicaid is a socialism he loves socialism he said to me if you were in need we have to take care we have to do everything we can to take care of you so you believe if you're in need everyone should do everything they can to take care of you well we have to do that with everybody everybody has to be taken care of yes so that's what he that's just believes you know sort of like my mom yeah my mom was a big old commie yeah she was a big old communist she loved individual she loved uh right international rights she worked the now my question for you be your uncle my question for you is okay okay um okay uncle spanos yeah let me now be my brother fucking trump is the narcissist yeah i fucking hate him so fucking much yeah the fastest fucking i can't stand to look at his face yeah this meat is so cold i can't even stick it in my ass um he hates trump what about so you so you want to help everybody loves trump yeah that's why trump salt and pepper shaker that's why i love your mother-in-law and that's why i'm going to group text with her yeah so that's why i'm going to group text with her and your wife when we talk about so um what about yeah if somebody you know you want to help everybody what about if somebody comes into your diner and they're really hungry are you going to give them free food if so if i had the diner and you wanted free food the answer is no but i thought everyone gets everything for free the answer is give it job go right get it soap get it soap yeah um so there's just holes there's just holes the thing is well you got a problem here you got a problem we got we got all types of problems nick's got big problems we got problems because you know having a private health care industry is tough right because it's heartless right so what do you do sure somebody this is such a complicated thing they do it pretty much every day they do it pretty much every day they do it pretty good in germany they do pretty good in germany germany's just pretty good at something germany um it comes to the point where what does germany do that's different they have um they have a single payer system yeah right and they balance the private and public sector a lot better than we do that's just what it is much less fraud they they but they it's a good example to look at because they have a massive population right and they sort of make it work a lot better than we do the american healthcare system is a fucking mess it's a mess people go broke when they get cancer they lose their house that doesn't happen it just doesn't happen in other countries yeah so we have a we have a situation where greed is so embedded in the profit motive of our system that doctors and hospitals and insurance companies it's just one big circle jerk every it's a centipede where everyone's got their cock in everyone's ass yes and so everyone's getting fucked you know it's like so the doctors will fuck the insurance companies the insurance companies will fuck you and it's just it's just a circle it's a circle jerk right doctors are selling you medication like any like a salesman furniture guy wants to sell you a sofa yeah they want to put you on collect everything i mean some people obviously honestly need it but there's plenty of natural remedies to try to work around it but they don't want you to do that yeah i mean you know and doctors are the ones who always get the most pass because you know they're like heroes sure they heal you so nobody ever wants to point the fingers at doctors but let's be honest doctors will go like they'll are you covered when you go yeah i'm covered they'll be okay and then they'll call the insurance company and say we did this test we did this yes we did this test we took it we kept them in for 14 days when they really could let you go at three right because they're just getting paid for that well the doctors too and doctors in the uk and take it or germany i would assume also they make money but they don't have yachts doctors here have yachts that's the difference that's the difference that's the difference that's the difference that's the difference i mean in those countries there's there's caps there yes you're there's caps on things you can't charge eight thousand dollars to put a telescope in my ass yeah you know it's like what it is 400 500 each yeah so i would do that for free yeah i mean because colonoscopies cost like eight grand it's like you shouldn't have to put i mean a down payment on a car is what it costs to get a telescope in your ass the whole procedure takes about what yeah 10 minutes doctors make real money doing it they put you to sleep they put a fucking scope in your ass and it is if you're covered they charge the insurance company a grant so that your premiums go up you're paying more look u.s physician salaries around 352 000 while german physician salaries average about 160 000 yeah and i 160 000 i mean according to an article that uh we read 140 000 is the new minimum wage in uh in the united states so i mean a german doctor can barely make it over here yeah it's just you know and then you got the the doctors go to medical school and it's so expensive to go to medical school so they come out in debt and then they're just like incentivized to do fraud because i mean i had a i got a doctorate degree in physical therapy i was i came out making sixty thousand dollars a year to start to make even a hundred thousand dollars a year would have taken me 10 years and i was about 250 000 in student loans yeah so without comedy i would have you know i would be you know struggling yeah and i would probably be doing medic i don't think i would do medicare fraud i wouldn't be that guy but i would probably be uh i would have to do something to make a little money i don't know what maybe that i don't know maybe physical therapy i would have had to do something what could i have done to make extra money just a physical therapist that um or maybe i would have started treating people on the side in my basement and said you know what don't go to insurance just give me cold hard cash i'll put the stim unit all over your balls would you be a happy guy though if you were a male prostitute um getting paid to do the thing you love would i be a happy guy would you be a happy guy i don't know because it might caution the wind it might start feeling empty right it might start feeling empty that's the issue that's the issue with with uh with that with me in general it just feels empty well that brings us to today's beamcast my friends yes every time you chase stimulus over connection you will find yourself feeling depression my friends always chase connection my friends yeah chase that's what you have to do yep and action over stimulus yep over stimulus and then let me just say because Giannis, I just wished him a happy Thanksgiving. And then I was greeted with this. response let me just find it i have a bunch of beamcasts for you yeah hold on jesse also has a beamcast yeah so i said i said um i said uh hey yannis happy thanksgiving hope you enjoy the day he responds instagram has changed too in different ways for creators they're just greedy they want you sucked on they want to serve our audience one of the most likely to watch at least half they don't want a few big pods they want everyone doing it i did tons of research youtube and instagram have changed the algorithms as soon as we saw drop off to favor retention more session time than short clicks favors new creators let's put up the shane todd episode and sergio episodes happy thanksgiving yeah yeah i said they want everyone addicted and you're not wrong yeah no it is true it is true i did a lot of research and what they're doing they switch it what they'll do is they'll switch it because they want to favor people who are just starting because they want them 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become systematic there had criminal rings weren't in it yet yeah right and then you know what a big thing is is the kickbacks like they these doctors would get finance would get money basically it's like lobbying congress they get money to you know give refer more medicaid patients it's all bullshit as soon as medicaid was enacted fraud was right there with it there's always a black market even china had a black market during its most communist phase its most capitalist phase it doesn't matter have you met anyone yes people will always find a way to scam the system there's nothing you could do it's part of human nature that's why communists and libertarians i think are equally naive then in the 70s we have ghost patients which is billing people who never appeared up coding charging for more expensive procedures kickbacks like chrissy said and federal government began to realize that fraud wasn't just isolated it was a systematic systematic systematic racism yeah um then in the 80s we 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expanded to medically unnecessary services billing for brand name drugs but dispensing generics all types of schemes false cost reports to inflate reimbursements and nursing home neglect masked by falsified paperwork so this is when the bureaucracy got so thick that they were just fucking lying like yeah yeah we gave this we gave that right nobody could keep track nothing's on computers yet so it's all paper trails there's humans doing all the the computing yeah so there's just major loopholes that can be taken advantage because this is a bad loophole bad looking for good loopholes good loopholes yeah this is a bad loophole and then 86 there was the false claim act uh to try to counter it the only thing that was good about 86 the mets won this year that's the mets won the series and the government said we got to do something so they did the false claim act and the government allowed whistleblowers to sue on uh the government's behalf um and whistleblowers could receive 15 to 30 percent of recovered funds so medicaid fraud cases started uh increasing because people were incentivized to find the fraud so this just shows you people will always have a price they just want to chase their own interest if you want people to be good you got to incentivize it you got to just tell them hey be good it'll be good for your conscience and you'll get into heaven no they'll say well how does it matter to you you're not going to get into heaven you're not going to get into heaven you're not going to get into heaven you're not going to get into heaven you're not going to get into heaven benefit me how does it benefit me how can i get a ferrari yeah yeah they'll say they'll say to you i'm not i know i'm not getting into heaven anyway because i'm in the closet gate yeah so then the 1990s came around and managed care and um we got the rise of sophisticated schemes i think this is when the russians got involved yeah so there was big time uh fraud mcos received fixed payments per patient and sometimes enrolled ineligible uh individuals uh underserved patients to pocket the difference we talked about that then pharma pill mills compounding pharmacy scams double billing medicaid and private insurers home health agencies this was a big one nurses i think there's been tons of those cases where nurses have gone to prison because they got caught um billing for hours not work kickbacking uh kickbacks for recruiting fake patients you know just being like hey you say there's something wrong with me and i'll go to your house or say i'm going to your house and we'll build like Doing this, like, especially now, days with technology like do you think these people don't have any fear of getting caught or they just accept it if i go to jail deal with it because like i would be worried every day that i'm gonna get caught uh listen survival survival and greed are just they're a hell of a thing they're a hell of a thing so when someone's desperate they'll resort to anything right nobody has any scruples when they're desperate right right when they're desperate like you can see it online right it's like the culture online now it's like you'll say anything to get visibility right you'll lie do you think candace owens care like she's got to know at some point that she's starting to jump the shark when she's saying the french legionnaires trying to kill her you know right it's like but she knows that she's got audience capture and she knows that her audience is sitting on the edge of their seat and part of them knows that it's not real they're just entertained by it she knows that they're not going to care next week like she just came out now and she's like okay she's like okay she's like the fbi my text went on red she goes my text went on red um and supposedly um my document is on the president's desk and he hasn't looked at it you know and then you're going you texted someone in the fbi wouldn't you file a formal report you just text someone yeah and it went on red like what does that mean who she's like i know someone high up you know i have information that egypt french israelis they all killed charlie kirk by the way and they're also trying to kill me and macron's wife it's just you just keep going right you just keep going and you keep going and you're going and now she's got the number one podcast in the world so it just you're incentivized to keep it going right so there's got to be some point where she's laying in bed going like the house could all come tumbling down but when you're short-sighted like that you i think you're consumed with that like bernie madoff at some point must have known he must have looked at the mirror and gone what am i doing yeah i mean there must have been it's one of my favorite jokes and i love the guy he asked me once he was like you hate me i was like why would i hate you what's his name you know and i think he's gotten he's gotten a raw deal there's been a lot of other people have done similar things and they haven't gotten the treatment he's gotten what's his name buffalo wild wings guy i just i'm just steve ran as easy he's got a raw deal yeah he's got a raw fucking deal he was actually the one that owned it and said i'm sorry and there's other people who said that they got powder sent to their house for their on their baby and nobody cares yeah and i'm saying like which one's worse and why did he get fucking drilled in this guy he didn't get it he didn't get white what did i tell you the rules are why did the rule islam good yeah what did i tell you i just don't understand yeah i think like he owned it and apologized for it and like you know and then i was doing something with him and he goes do you hate me i go why you didn't do anything to me why would i hate you i loved what you did it's one of the funniest things i've ever heard yeah listening to your story about how you got in the building was one of the funniest things i've ever heard what it is now yeah i heard a joke once by another community who said you know at one point he got into his car and just adjusted the car mirror and looked at himself and said god what am i doing and i think there are those moments yeah but it's just you're benefiting from so do you think candace owens eventually this gets out of control and it all falls down she gets out of control she's already at the point where she's blaming like three countries for her wanted assassination so do you think once that doesn't have any more life that she needs to keep making money she joins the somalian medicaid fraud team gotta be i mean broad has been doing it from the beginning she started out she was liberal she tried to start she had like a liberal newsletter and then she tried to start a doxing service uh to dox republicans then she's a piece i'll give her that's a piece then she became republican and then she became maga and now she's against maga and she was for israel now she's against i mean she just she's a vessel and she's very entertaining she's the oprah of conspiracies she's got a wide wide appeal it's what it is she's got housewives she's got kids she's got everyone she's the biggest thing on the fucking planet is she gonna stop now why would she yeah you know why would anyone yeah at this point just keep it going you keep it going and once you're in you're in i think right i think once you know you're in you go i'm in well some people too just want to they have it in their dna they just want to argue like for me arguing and getting into any type of like spat with someone gives raises my anxiety to a way that's uncomfortable and i want to go away from it but i think it's a good thing i think it calms other types of people i think it's the exact opposite i think someone who's like having like a social media war is because they actually they're calm with that they're not or they're getting high off the feeling of that adrenaline rush where that makes me literally almost like paralyzed with fear yeah i think with the aliens that live in the sea um probably look at us and they know that we're just these like pathetic freudian cases and they look at us and you can't even get over your own uh childhood issues yeah so we're not going to show ourselves and tell you that the universe is as big as it is because you guys are so kind of pathetic and you're threatening to blow each other up just because your mom didn't give you a hug if you notice like i've noticed this about myself and about other people it's like if you have a parent who's a little maladaptive or hasn't worked on their issues you can notice in their life they have they give a lot more leeway to the people who remind them of their parents right you know so it's like if your father was a narcissist then it's so easy you're on narcissistic people if you're you know etc you know what i'm saying it's just like we we have a sort of uh uh a weakness right or to be treated like shit sure so to answer your question i think the people who like the confrontation and things like that it reminds them of their childhood and that's the type of attention they got if they had a parent who's hypercritical or treated them like shit then that feels like love to them so whenever they get attention in a negative way it just kind of makes them feel like they're a little bit more it just feels good to them because that's what their brain equates with love because there's a lot of people out there that have major holes in their roof it's a leaky roof party out there it really is that should be the new political party is the leaky roof party because the lrp i've never seen america more leaky it's so leaked out the roof is wide open on america right now to say the roof's on fire yeah the roof has a hole in it and it's so leaky it's so leaky it's so leaky it's so i mean cuz it's like in one of those hurricanes when the roof blew off the the stadium where the tampa bay rays play just blew clean off that's what's happened to the entire nation we have blown clean off cuz it's the united states of open air housing it is an open air market where outdoors everybody's living outside in america everyone's just getting rained on cuz it's what it is the roof is not working and i gotta be honest with you i thought the security guard in this building was dead because he wasn't here for a while but he wasn't here for a while because he's a very old man but i'm happy to see him back yeah i thought that guy was dead and i literally said to him i was holding all our coffees and food and i said i thought you died and he does can't hear anybody yeah so he just kept looking straight ahead he might actually be dead in his seat did you think he that guy was dead is one day we're gonna show up but he's not gonna be here yeah you know it's gonna be this week yeah and it's funny that he's the security guard he doesn't do anything there if somebody if you ever wanted to find out our address and come storm our it's like getting through blue from old school i mean that guy and and he literally is always wearing his vietnam war veteran hat and i mean the kid just i mean he's an old old fart if you wake up tomorrow and you think that people will ever put principle over interest it's not gonna happen not gonna happen people uh always put their interest over the principle yes you can get people to do almost anything if you give them stuff in return sure if there's if you can get some sort of what's that called quid pro quo you give me pro quo you give me something i give you something yeah but if there's and the more desperate you are to survive and the marketplace is desperate right now so you're seeing people resort to desperate measures i agree you know it is what it is um if you come here and you're a refugee from another country and you uh you know you figure out a loophole you get other people involved you're not gonna stop you're gonna do it yeah especially if you don't feel the type of allegiance to a place that people who've been here yeah yeah like what do you care about this country for you just got here yeah you just got here and your allegiance is to someplace else and to your family and your culture religion is different you're in this foreign place and it's just uh you know it has nothing to do with the specific ethnicity or religion it's just how people are i mean i think when the jews came here they were criminals the italians were criminals everybody everybody does it you know because they don't feel an allegiance to the place yet now let me ask you this what do you think the odds are on kashi u.s versus venezuela who do you got um all i know is if we lose it's not gonna look good no no so it's one of those things it's like the jake paul fight like you better beat him yeah we're anthony joshua and venezuela is jake paul and if jake paul lands a blow anthony joshua looks bad he's got more to lose anthony joshua should be able to kill jake paul he should be able to kill him yeah do you think he's gonna fight full full speed i think like sergio told me uh he called he says in the business in the in the sport they have a thing called moles so someone is saying there's like moles right so it's left to pick opponents based on knowledge that they know right okay jake paul has been hand selecting his opponents but listen you can't blame jake paul he's beaten some people forget he's beaten boxers with winning records but he's beaten guys who are way past their prime or they're washed up but he's still beating real fighters joshua way past his prime joshua is coming off uh uh he hasn't trained in a while so that's what sergio's saying he probably hasn't trained in a while he's got some moles somewhere going look the guy's not in the gym he's been he's he's he's lost some He's a little older, he doesn't have the confidence confidence he has he looks jack still he's still a big jack guy when is this fight um and he's only giving him four weeks notice this fight is happening like in a couple weeks so that's what they're saying like it's always jake paul's always getting a little i mean it's a dangerous proposition no matter which way but jake paul has to know that like he hasn't been training he's giving him short notice so jake paul was a member he was already training to fight the squeak right which was crazy um but now so he's got to know that this guy's out of shape or something like that he's got to have some inside knowledge i'm gonna text now i'm gonna text jake right now like we better know that venezuela right has been out of the gym because if they've been into the gym and they strike us a little bit it's gonna it's like what happened with russia you don't want this to happen because you just look silly right so that's why putin's double now putin's basically doing what a comic does when he's bombing he's like no no i'm gonna turn this crowd i'm gonna turn this crowd around i'm just gonna keep going when sometimes you just got to get off the stage sometimes you're just in a hole and you can't get out it's happening december 19th i just texted jake paul i said dude miss you how are you going to fight anthony joshua and not get hard in the ring do you have a plan for that that'd be funny if he responds let's see yeah so i sent that there is no limit to his weight while in the ring as the contract does not include a rehydration clause in contrast pill paul usually fights a cruiserweight with his weight ranging from 183 to 227 it's competing in the heavyweight there's no limit to his weight while in the ring as the contract does not include a rehydration clause so is he drying him out is that what that means i don't know what any of that means yeah uh sergio could tell you i could we could call sergio and be like is he drying him out that's another expression they have is he drying him out like a lot of times you'll dry make a guy cut weight dry him out they say dry him out so you gotta cut weight you gotta make weight so you dry him out so he's weak then going in some yeah you force him to cut weight yeah and he's not his fight him out of weight and then because i mean joshua is outweighs jake paul by what 80 pounds he i don't know what they walk around that i don't know but listen they're both heavyweights i mean they're that's the thing about jake paul he's got a heavyweight frame you know he's six foot one look how thick he is he should be fighting at heavyweight right though he's fought in all smaller guys right this is the only guy he's fought who's his size or bigger i mean this kid is a big and except for mike tyson who was 58 and may or may not have parkinson just what it is yeah i mean anthony joshua is wearing a shirt that says riyadh season so anthony joshua also went to saudi arabia so i dare you to tweet that he's a piece of shit say he's a piece of shit for going to saudi arabia to his face i mean who did it go i mean they have tennis tournaments in saudi arabia they're part of nato i posted this i posted this photo of like two tennis players coco groff and uh another he's two coco yeah and anna as a novel for whatever his name is they were like hi we're happy to be in riyadh and i was like get them comedy fans yeah i mean everyone's go to saudi what it is yeah so that's medicare fraud somalians in minneapolis unfortunately we're not picking on you but you are the main culprit of this uh or were now the russians and you are head to head so it's just what it is there's many beautiful things about you guys but wanted to highlight the somalian uh medicaid uh fraud cases yeah the russian mob got really good at it right the russian mob is excellent at it what were they doing they were doing like fake they were setting up like fake nursing fake rehabilitation centers what they would do big is kind of similar is just bill you for things they never did right so it was a little bit harder because they would then the fbi or whomever would then have to go to the patient and say did you get a bill and some of it was very complicated because you know the layman doesn't know like they'd be like uh i had a knee injury and they would say okay did you get you know stretching this way did you get this stim machine did you get ultrasound and the patient might say i yes i did but really they didn't like things things can look the same but not be so if like an e-stim machine you may have just stimulation but not the ultrasound but the patient thinks they're the same thing yeah but yet the the doctor is making another hundred bucks off you yeah so things like that it's more complicated but the russians were good at it i don't know if we said it but just to cap it up it's pretty shocking that it's estimated that medicaid fraud comes in at about 80 billion a year that's what the s that's how much it is and that is a lot of money and that can make the new york city buses free that can make them free that's better than taxing the rot and but also that i don't even think is a drop in the bucket uh compared to the estimated fraud from the pentagon and the dod yeah so taxpayers are just getting raped uh yeah uh the dod um estimates uh 233 to 521 billion damn son yeah so um so many frauds uh just go undetected and the taxpayer just gets raped but that's okay that if the dod and the department of defense and department of justice want to do that because we need bombs and planes yeah so if they want to steal a little bit of money they can do that they can do that they can steal a little bit of money for me off the top that's no problem they want to skim a little bit off the top we really need them it's kind of like patreon they want to skim a little bit off the top but we need it so we allow it and i think the department of defense you want to skim a little bit yeah we allow it i mean at the end of the day we just can't let this happen yeah we just have to do something you're gonna do we're not gonna do anything we're not gonna do anything about it let me tweet about it yeah yeah do anything i'm gonna sit in my house and just be really scared about how much my oil bill costs but you know it's like you want to know why you know communism is getting big you want to know why uh people are so angry it's like there are good reasons yeah there are good reasons yeah like we can't continue to do this no you can't no it's good and you know shout out and kudos to the politicians who want to make a difference i mean i i just i don't have that in me i just i'm you know trying to hold on myself yeah we the only thing that's going to save us from this is ai and some lawmakers with some balls that's what it is that's what we need we just need a couple lawmakers to look at pharma and say fuck you and look at all the the private fucking hospitals say fuck you fuck you enough is enough we're gonna be more like the germans and we're gonna just do some things yeah it's what it is if you really really really really really want to overcome medicare fraud you have to do 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Muslims just go, they're so scared of dogs. Anyway. Jack Isinger, Tom Castana, Assimilation, AC Native owned, straight kid but Yanni. Dirty talking grok made me go pewing. Okay. Gennaro Luna, Murphy's Law, ladder 14 frisbee golf champ, meditated in an Asian massage parlor. Now I'm oscillating big. Drexler. Catherine Larson, Nick Andrade, Eric Heilig, free sex change. Now I call my mom Donnie. It's a peace sign frisbee. Just get in the box. Oh, that's a bad one. Sorry. Okay. Uh, Emerson Singwenza, Hezbollah ham candle, pee pee and poo poo make me caca. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. Uh, I guess my three-year-old joint. Yeah. All right. Just a few more and then we're done. Uh, Leroy's are the true frisbees. Kanye told me so. Um, okay. Jacob Wilson, meatball monkey, not Swiss ABBA. Make me jizz. Connor Donnelly, do rags are just Leroy lingerie. A lot of 14 Drexler, Audrey Montgomery, mom. Donnie's not so estranged. Uncle bin Laden. Okay. Justin muck, Jake stoper, mom. Donnie's 40 thick trans thieves. Kevin got a bio fisted because I like the meat. Okay. Our tan Admiral one, two, five star Nate. Ari and kids. So no fumes, but fat. So fumes. Very funny. Yep. Drexler, uh, Brian J. Baker, mom. Donnie's magic carpet rides into the North tower. Live 14. Okay. Yeah. Really good though. I'll put it on the list. Wow. All right. I liked it. Mom. Donnie's magic carpet rides. Uh, Stephen Lord, juice in screwed in taco monkey, Alex Rodriguez, a rods on era. Yeah. Tranny point is not gay. If she's hot, it's a fact back. Yeah. The fact Brian see Jerry reverse Oreo white on outside black on inside. Okay. Cody Bates, Julio Gonzalez, Tucker kindred. If I were going to Warren, Venezuela, I'm bringing a blue chill. They aren't gorgeous women. Yeah. All day. UK. My hemorrhoids have hemorrhoids. It's what it is. Mom. Donnie's gimp suit. Trav Cohen, Kyle. Defund. Days, uh, Mexican DiCaprio. So catch me if you can put them on the list on the list. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Wow. Contender. Martin Luter King jr. Which I think we've had that. Yeah, we've had it. It's a good one. Yeah. Uh, make no mistake. The beans are bigger than the Frank. It's a caricature piece. Okay. Very good. Chrissy's long lost son. Rebecca kept the kid. There you go. Mm-hmm. Uh, Nicholas Christenton, Josh Clark. Uh, Connor Dillon, CC, Marcel Mueller, and last but not least, the BTS killer didn't do it cuz he, and only my mom knows I'm gay. BTS. So I think he did that wrong. It's BTK. BTK. Right. What is the BTS killer? He has BTK, but he wrote S yeah. Does, is that cause we missed something there? Yeah. Right. Uh, all right. We got some goodies. Yeah. So should we just have one page left? Should I do one more page? You think we have enough here? I think we have enough. Okay. All right. So I'll put that here. So that's, that's for later. Okay. So let's do the names. Okay. Mom, Donnie's magic carpet rides into the North tower, uh, Mexican DiCaprio. So catch me if you can. That's gotta be. Con queef to door. It's another one. General Custard, victim of a bad red. That's another good one. And they call me a fag net the way I attract the gays. Okay. We're going to walk into one, that one. It's a good one, but it's walked in. Fag net. Yeah. Is that wow. Okay. So that was our number one draft pick. So we had one that was closed, but it's a walked in one. We can't, right? Yeah. We're going to, you're on the walked into one list, which we're going to do, uh, at the end of the year. Con queef to door. Too good to, too good to get rid of yet. Still in here. Yeah. Mexican DiCaprio. That is sticking around and that's a contender. And mom, Donnie's magic carpet rides into the North tower. I just wanted you to read it one more time cause I enjoy it, but it's going on the walked into one list. Okay. But there will be a winner of the walked into one list and that's going to be a wild one to read. I mean, calling the nine 11 planes, mom, Donnie's magic car. It is kind of insane and insulting and really funny. It's really funny. And I'm just, I can't say join Patreon because on Patreon, we are going to do the walked into one award. We're compiling all the Tony is compiling all the walked into ones and we're going to read them all and we're going to pick a winner. Mexican DiCaprio. So catch me if you can, or con queef to door to, to champions right there. Yeah. So it's really just a chicken finger or are we going? I'm going with the, with the one that has a little bit, has a few more backflips, just an Ollie versus black flip. So for me, I would go with con queef to door just because it's one word and those are so hard to hit home runs on, but you got to give credit where credit's due. And he did hit a home run with one word. Yeah. But also he did hit a home run by saying, call me the Mexican DiCaprio. Catch me if you can. I agree with you. That is some white stuff. So, so you're picking Mexican. I'm going with the Mexican and I'm con queef to door. Yeah. So Jesse and Nick have to go. I agree with con queef to door. I just like the way it rolls off the tongue. It's a goodie. Okay. Mike, Nick, Nick, you're the deciding vote. Yeah. Con queef to door. That's what it is. Con queef to door. Direct democracy wins again. Wins again. I mean, and that's big of Nick because I mean, it sounds like con queef to door, which Nick hates. Yes. So con queef to door, go to a history hyenas is back.com. See your name up in lights. You are the PPW, the pseudo penis of the week on our Patreon. Thank you so much. Thanks to all of you. Thank you to all the fans for all the support. We got some new merch up there at historyhyenasisback.com. And again, a lot of fun happening over at the Patreon. Giannis and I are meeting this week to shoot a lot more content. We're bringing back snowstorms. We're bringing back some of the other bits we do. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast discusses Medicaid fraud, highlighting systemic issues and historical patterns across different eras.
  2. Fraud has evolved from individual cases in the 1960s to large-scale corporate schemes in the 1980s and 1990s involving nursing homes, pharmacies, and managed care.
  3. The podcast accuses Somali communities of high fraud rates, but criticizes this as racist and dismissive of broader systemic failures in the U.S. healthcare system.
  4. It argues that fraud is not tied to ethnicity but to systemic flaws, greed, and profit motives, pointing to Russian involvement in Medicare fraud as a parallel example.
  5. The host emphasizes that fraud stems from structural failures in healthcare, such as lack of oversight, profit-driven incentives, and bureaucratic loopholes.
  6. The episode calls for accountability and transparency, suggesting technology and data analytics can help detect fraudulent spending patterns.
  7. A recurring theme is the moral failure of institutions, with examples of predatory practices by doctors, insurers, and government bodies.
  8. The discussion ends with a critique of media and political figures who exploit conspiracy narratives for attention, linking it to broader patterns of deception.

Summary:

The podcast explores the history and evolution of Medicaid fraud in the United States, tracing it from individual physician misconduct in the 1960s to large-scale corporate fraud in the 1980s and 1990s. It details schemes such as false billing, ghost patients, and kickbacks, emphasizing how systemic profit motives and bureaucratic gaps enabled widespread fraud. A central controversy arises when the host accuses Somali communities of being major perpetrators, which is immediately challenged as racially biased and inconsistent with documented patterns of fraud involving other groups like Russians.

The analysis shifts to argue that fraud is not a product of culture or ethnicity but of systemic failures—such as profit-driven healthcare, weak oversight, and a lack of transparency. The host highlights how institutions, including doctors and insurers, prioritize financial gain over ethical responsibility, leading to exploitation of vulnerable populations. The episode also critiques media and political figures for using conspiracy theories to gain attention, framing such behavior as part of a broader culture of deception.

While the narrative includes jokes and personal anecdotes—like cold food at family gatherings or references to Nick’s appearance—it ultimately serves as a critical examination of how greed, desperation, and structural flaws fuel fraud, urging greater accountability and reform in public healthcare systems. The discussion concludes by suggesting that true solutions lie in systemic change, not in scapegoating specific ethnic or cultural groups.

FAQs

The transcript suggests that Somali communities are accused of engaging in Medicaid fraud, such as billing for services not rendered or inflating costs. However, the speaker also argues this claim is racially charged and not supported by evidence, noting that such accusations are similar to blaming Russians for Medicare fraud and that systemic failures, not ethnicity, should be held accountable.

Medicaid fraud began with individual actors like physicians and dentists in the 1960s and 70s, expanded into corporate fraud in the 1980s with managed care companies and nursing homes, and became more sophisticated in the 1990s with schemes like false billing, kickbacks, and fake patient records.

Whistleblowers are incentivized to report fraud through the False Claim Act, which allows them to receive 15 to 30 percent of recovered funds. This has led to an increase in fraud investigations and has helped expose systemic fraud in Medicaid programs.

The speaker claims that blaming Somali communities for fraud is racially discriminatory, comparing it to blaming Russians for Medicare fraud. They argue that systemic issues and government failures, not ethnic identity, are responsible for fraud and that such accusations perpetuate harm against marginalized groups.

The transcript suggests that desperation, financial instability, and lack of proper support—such as high medical debt or poverty—can drive individuals to commit fraud. For example, a doctor with significant student debt may turn to fraudulent practices to earn extra income.

The U.S. healthcare system is described as profit-driven, with high costs, lack of regulation, and incentives for doctors and hospitals to bill for unnecessary services. This creates a system where fraud is more likely, as providers are often incentivized to maximize revenue over patient care.

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