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Meatball and the Forbidden Posterior Pickle

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Meatball and the Forbidden Posterior Pickle

The conversation centers on the vibrant, chaotic, and often absurd world of drag performance, blending personal storytelling with cultural commentary. The host reflects on their early decision to go bald as a form of self-control and identity stability, contrasting it with the natural aging process of others. Drag is celebrated not just as a performance art but as a form of rebellion and liberation, where humor, bodily experimentation, and taboo topics like eating pickles or using wigs in absurd ways are embraced. The narrative highlights memorable moments from live shows, including a notorious incident involving a hot dog being inserted into a guest’s rear, and a surreal performance in Tokyo where a squid-filled Jello was served. The hosts also discuss drag’s role in challenging societal norms around gender, appearance, and body image, citing icons like Ellen DeGeneres and Rosie O'Donnell as potential drag collaborators. The tone is irreverent and playful, emphasizing the joy found in chaos and the freedom to be unapologetically unconventional. Personal anecdotes about boy scouting, eating rocks, and motorcycle accidents add layers of authenticity, while the discussion on dressing room etiquette and performance logistics reveals a deep understanding of drag’s behind-the-scenes realities. Ultimately, the conversation positions drag as a dynamic, evolving, and deeply personal form of art that thrives on spontaneity, humor, and community.

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[MUSIC] >> Welcome back to The Bald and The Beautiful. As usual, we have me in the full-time co-host of The Bald and The Beautiful, Meet Bald. >> Hello, I'm back. And if you guys think that it was ever somebody else, it's a glitch in the matrix. It's been you the whole time. >> Yes, it's always been me. >> This is a photo of you, yes. >> And I look so good as a little white kid. >> You look so good. >> I'm wearing the same shirt. >> You kind of are. >> And honestly, this Bob, this women's 90s Bob, this Becky Conner hair. >> It's giving con. I went looking. >> You look at a nine-year-old picture and say it's giving con. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went looking for a little tiny Katya wig today. >> I could not find one. I went to Sandy. >> Do you want a ballcat? >> I went, I almost did that too, but I don't know how to apply it. >> We have them. >> Did you do this to Ross? >> Yeah, Ross put it on over her whole face. Ross pulled it over her chin and lips and talked through it like a crazy. Okay, have any of you seen a bald person for what? Why do you think that being bald means our faces are contorted? >> I don't know, I'm sorry. >> You've never been bald. >> No, but I'm like, I'm getting there, I think. Me and Dipper talk about going to Turkey all the time. We've had this combo. >> So sick of you, faggots. >> Look, look. >> With this is crazy. >> [LAUGH] >> I just flew the chat. >> No. >> You're a wig cap flew the chat. >> I don't even know where, what? >> My god, it just flew away. >> Girl, I don't, it's literally gone. >> Anyway, they got so many pictures and statues of me around here. >> Shut up, don't you think, it's probably me. So why don't you tell everybody how bald you are and I'll just sit here and listen. >> Okay, so right here, I'm sorry to lose a little out of here. And then I thank you so much. And then recently I was in New Orleans, so I was taking a lot of photos with my friends. And my mom decided to text me because I was sending her the photos. And she goes, yeah, you really need to take some more of that Monoxidil or whatever those pills you were on. Because she was coming for my baldness. But then I had to go, well, if you would have rolled me over more when I was a baby, the back of my head wouldn't be flat. Now who's in charge? >> Thank you. >> Who's in charge of the girls? >> I find it, all my, all my gay friends, I think it's, well, how old are you? >> 35? >> So all my gay friends about our age are all starting to be like, my hairline. And I just sit there looking like, Kaju? >> [LAUGH] >> Like white little girl. >> Well, everyone's like, don't you see it? It used to be here and now it's here. >> But I think it's just, I mean, you kind of lucked out because you chose to go bald super early. >> Because that's because I said you're not going to get me. >> Yeah. >> If we're going to do it, we're going to do it young. And that way I just look the same forever. That was my plan. I don't know if it's the thing that's a perfect plan. My dad is starting to lose a lot right here, but he will continue to maintain his ponytail. And I'm like, we got to do one or the other. Like you could have the donut ring, but you can't have ponytail and ring. Because it's giving the, from the Simpsons, the comic book. >> Yes, it's giving comic book guys, it's giving like old hippie that smokes too much weed. >> For sure. >> Not willing to let go. >> This is, will you also have a hairy body? >> Yes. >> So everything kind of goes. >> Hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair. >> Well, when I was taking the medoxidil, my shoulders got thicker. Like, you grow hair everywhere more. So everything. >> This is thicker and gray. >> This is the hairiest part of my body. >> You're butt. >> Ha, you're lower back. Wait, you don't have that much leg here. >> It's not even that much hair. >> But this is. >> It's a thin and wiry. >> I know. It's thin and dark and wiry. I told my brother, my brother goes, why is your lower back so hairy? I said it's my welcome mat. >> Of course. >> It's not disgusting. >> I think that's beautiful. >> Listen, I got to tell people who you are. Because even though you've been here, you've been on every type of tricksie media a thousand times. >> You've been, I like to watch. >> You've been here before. >> Bum, bum. >> I'm bald. >> Uh-oh. >> Well, you know her from Queens who like to watch. >> Yeah. >> But you know her from sloppy seconds, you know her from my Halloween special last year. >> Oh, yes. >> Okay, so today. >> Tracey, there's a little girl behind you. >> I was tracey. That was tracey. >> It's her. >> So today's co-host is an impeccable drag queen and a furious podcaster. The host of Fatslet every month that precinct and was recently seen on family, feud, harassing Steve Harvey. It's me, ball. >> Hello. >> Yeah. >> L.A. drag royalty for real. >> Sure. Maybe one day. >> I want to be. >> Yeah. >> I think you're like L.A. >> I think I'm working a lot, but I don't think I'll like, I'm not like a Jackie beat. I want to be like a heckleena, where when I die people think about me. You know? >> Oh, they just put out further information about that. >> Yeah. >> I know. >> It's just crazy and really sad. But when I did drag me to dinner with her, I just kept making fun of her and saying that she was going to die soon. And then three months later, she did. So maybe Kelly is not the only magical one here at P.E.G. >> It's so crazy because Ross was just here and she's a ghost hunter and she said that heckleena told her that she's going to kill you. >> Bum bum, bum bum, that did it. >> You know what though? I'm, of course, heckleena's an amazing icon. I think she would be flatter by saying you wanted to be just like her. >> Yeah. >> So. >> Yeah. I mean, I try to eat butts on stage just like she does. >> Yes, you really do. >> I just saw a fucking, I get so mad at you in your parties because I get mad at the things that happen. I saw a video of you, picture of you putting a pickle up a guy's ass. >> Yeah. And then we took it out and I fed it to Willum because she'll eat anything. And that was a great night. That was also, that was the same thing. >> That was like last month. >> Yeah, that was last month. That was the same night. Chapel Rowan was there and I walked up to her and I went, hey girl, you're going to stay for the food eating competition and she just looked at me and went, no. I was like, she, I was like, literally her guard was like, I think she knows what's about to happen. >> She was, her boundaries. She's like, yeah. >> She was like, I came for the, I came for Legon. >> She said, I'm a lezy, not a failure, goodbye. >> I'm not into pickle shit. >> Yeah, I'm not going to watch Willum eat feces off a pickle. If that's what, hey, he was really clean. I always count on that one contestant to be clean as hell. >> They always say that. >> Well, he, well, when you heard the story about the one time that they weren't clean. >> My God. >> Why don't you tell us? >> The guy came up on stage. >> Are you just going Kelly's pot and talk about feces? >> Right, no poop, no poop, no one. >> No, no, let's do it. >> Talk about poop. No, I don't want to do it. >> No, I don't want to do it. >> I'm sure. >> Okay. >> It took a long time. >> Don't let me say. >> Don't let me say. >> Don't let me say. >> So this guy, I call him to the audience because at my party, I say, if you get the hot dogs, you have to put it up your butt. And this, the person who got the hot dogs didn't want it. So I was like, for $50, who will put a hot dog up there, but because people will do anything for money. And then this guy came up on stage, put it in his butt and when he shot it out, poop came out with it. And all of his friends went, we told you not to do it. >> And so we had to stop the show because it's a biohassard. >> I've been in shows where there was poop and they have to stop the show. >> Yeah, we had to fully stop the show and Cornbread was like, just keep it going. And I was like, Corn, no, it's over. >> Do you know Porcelain? >> Oh, yes. Okay. >> I know this story. >> I'm telling it though, because it's so good. >> And I don't feel like this is me breaking news. This is like an old story. >> It's old old old. >> Porcelain, we did a show in Chicago together a long time ago. I think it's before I was on Drag Race or something. But it was a poor person did a number called a not a girl, not yet a woman, I believe. No, I am your lady, you are my man, Celine Dion. >> That's worse. >> Okay, so it was that. And she came out and she had put water up in her butt so that she cleaned out and then put water so that she could pull up her dress and squat and push the water out of her ass and pee like a woman during the set, during the number. But not all of it was water. And so the audience was like, yes, punk rock, drag, and then you see the whole front row turn and walk away. And then the smell hits the audience and everyone starts backing up. And then of course, gay bars don't have a shit cleanup set ready. >> Yeah, we're not. >> So they go to get like a squeegee, a broom, and some rubbing alcohol. And they have to like swab the stage. And I will say we're taking fashion risks. >> We're taking fashion risks. >> We're speaking of fashion risks going about. Have you seen the video of Miss Woman the Woman, that's New York Queen? She was in a pattern. >> Her name is Miss Woman the Woman the Woman. Isn't it so good? >> That's awesome. >> She's incredible if you're ever in New York need to see her show, but she did this number where she's like in a night gown and she cuts it off and she's completely sober. She cuts it off. She turns around and bends over, pulls out another night gown from her butt, shakes it out, puts it on. And the craziest part, Trixie, is that it was dry. There was nothing, it wasn't like lubed up before it went in, it came out dry. >> There's pills for that. >> Yeah. >> If you're experiencing vaginal dryness. >> No. >> She's experiencing vaginal dryness. >> But she put on the dress and finished her number and I thought it was the most incredible thing I've ever seen. >> I. >> Okay. >> I. >> Well, you're not a freak nasty. >> No, let me tell you something, no one's ever said. Drag is art. And art. What is it? >> Subjective. >> Art is subjective. Whatever. That, that. >> Who said that though? >> You know what it was? It was James Earl Jones. >> And I've always said that. >> Your father. >> Your drag mother. >> Your drag mother. >> Yes. >> So I wanted to ask, because things happen to us in drag. And I feel like that's what is so fun because I feel like you're setting the girls up for some kind of reckoning where we're going to see something at a club that maybe we can't forget. Like the time I DJed for St. Patrick's Day and I saw people rub green jello with corn beef and hash all over themselves, I still think of the smell of corn beef and hash and jello. >> Well, you know the thing about that, is that it's a beautifully made show. So that if you just want to see drag, you can just go for the first two acts. >> That's true. >> And there's no mess during the first two acts unless you're rock 'em Sakura. And then I just saw her. >> I just saw her last night. >> I'm. >> I'm. >> She was at Mickey's last night. >> On Monday was yesterday. >> No, last night was Tuesday. >> Oh. >> His comedy queen. >> She was at Mickey's on Monday. >> Oh. >> She did. >> California girls, I think. >> She was sunbatten all over her. >> Wait. >> Skin coming up. >> Did she squeeze a watermelon between her thighs? >> Yes. >> Okay, she did that at fat slut, like last one. >> Number repeater. >> No, half the repeater. >> Half the repeater, half the repeater, half the repeater. >> To yourself, bitch. >> Let's see McGuire kill yourself. >> But she was amazing. >> So she's so good. >> And I also let, well, she was like peeling it off of herself. >> She is such an amazing boy body. >> Yeah, I know, it's insane. >> I think he's so handsome and he's trying to love his makeup. >> Yeah. >> And it's perfect. >> Perfect. >> Besides they're exactly even the way she does her nose and her lips. >> Yeah, I wish I cared. >> You do care. >> No, I look like shit sometimes and I'm okay with that. >> You still look a lot worse. You did. >> Do you think? >> Yeah, that's cut to the side. >> It's like okay. >> She's done all that, okay. >> Yeah, of course I looked worse. >> But I thought, would you start it? I thought part of your thing was that the look was like a little more clowny, a little more crazy wacky. >> But they weren't exploring beauty then. >> And I'm not now. I'm not that girl that wants to be like, you know what I want. This plastic TR just touched my face. >> I want her to touch your face. >> Why does everyone keep saying that? How come no one's asking me to do plastic? Did you ever think about that? Maybe we're sick of seeing plastic look like Miss Penn House 98. >> Yeah, maybe that bitch should be- >> We need to put that bitch in the circus. >> Clowny, Circusy. >> Hello, Barbie doll. >> Did you know Brandon, Brandon's, okay, I went to the serpents tour. >> You were there too, right? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Awesome show, loved it. It was amazing. 98 people on stage doing bad romance. I was like, what the fuck is this? >> I was like, am I got a concert? Like what happened? >> Oh, me and Katya booking live shows where one of us might not show up. Meanwhile, we got plastic. We got plastic with 80 people doing Gaga level choreography with the wind blowing in the hair. I was like, what the fuck? So I was at that and Brandon brought his mom, because you know Maureen, she's so awesome. And she's three numbers into the show. And she turns to Brandon and goes, Brandon, are they Asian? >> The serpents tour, all the logos. >> And I told Nimpie that and she goes, you know what, I blame plastic and that blonde fucking wig. >> [LAUGH] >> But I was taking videos of plastic during the show being like, I want to send this to Katya so bad. Oh no, she'll end it all. Because when Katya sees a drag queen like plastic, she goes like, I should never try to put in a drag again. >> Girl, save. >> But I never feel like, I see plastic and I go, twin. And that is why we all love you, because you believe in yourself more than anything else. >> I do. So we both recently performed, wait, not recently, it was like a year ago. We did the show with Chabble Run. >> Yeah, that was a while ago. >> That must have been like a year ago. >> It was because I was in Chicago, I'm doing the same pageant again this year. >> Yes. >> I almost missed my flight, I fully missed my flight and then had to get on a second flight instead of the very back of the plane. >> So I landed at LAX in droves straight to the stadium. >> Yeah, where was that, it was in. >> It was in Pasadena, the Rose Bowl. >> Pasadena, but it was outside. >> Yes, yes, yes, that was fun though. >> That was really fun, that was really fun. >> And also the way they just take care, I mean your tent was beautiful. >> Oh my God, it was like a year. >> It was, yeah. >> Somebody was coming here, girl. >> Why didn't know where you guys were? >> I was like, we had our trailer over in the corner, but when you invited us in there, we were both like. >> Oh yeah, I was like, this is like, it was like the size of a huge. >> It was like, two of these, three of them. >> And there was so much food and booze, I was like, I was like, yeah, you think so. >> I was like, there's one handle in there for Meatball. Was that gone yesterday? Get her in here. >> Listen, I got to say, we were sharing our little trailer with two trans girls and they can definitely outdrink me, which is great. >> Yes, I was going to say that. >> There's two drivers and two trans girls over there with one bottle. >> What are they going to do? >> You went, what do you want, red or white? And I was like, just give me the white. >> They'll help me the whole bottle. >> Just take it. >> You're like, I'm not having it. >> Just take it. >> So since you've collected her as an infinity stone, what other lesbian icons would you want to do drag in their show? >> Okay, I would love to do an Ellen DeGeneres show. >> Okay. >> I think she's well liked again. Everyone wants to be around her. I would know that the audience would be hands-elected people that are into people with bad behavior. >> Oh, Rosie's in Rocky Horror now and I'm so jealous. She's playing the narrator, the criminologist. >> Rosie O'Donnell? >> Yes, they just announced her on Broadway. >> I know, it'd be so cont to be in that. >> Oh God, that would be amazing. >> Sherry Renee Scott, isn't it, too? >> Did you just go, did you see it yet? >> No, God. >> I don't go to New York. >> You don't like it there? >> It's too far. >> It is, it is a six hour flight. >> You're going to Japan. >> It's, you might as well. >> You get there, it's a shithole. >> And then it, it's a shithole. Everyone's unhappy and they look you dead in the eyes and say, I love being a New Yorker. And you go, okay, girl, you fly away and don't come back. That's what I do. >> What is, people are still, the New Yorkers are still anti-LA to a degree that I don't get, because I'm like, but my quality of life is, girl, I have a house. >> I was like, all these New York queens, ask me where Bob, Bianca, Monet, ask me where all these people move to, bitch. I'll tell you what, not Queens. >> Okay, okay, okay, okay. >> And also, I was just like, I don't know. It is lovely, great culture, exciting, but the quality of life is so poor. It makes me think of like, when you're like, hey, Sherry, it's like hard to live here. It's like hot and the train and dirty and smell and the people, they remind me of like, they remind me of a, in bridesmaids, and she's like, in fact, I'm actually hungry and she eats that almond. That's what they feel like being like, I love my apartment. >> Well, I have lived in New York for eight years. >> You did, I had to get out by my eighth year, I was like on a subway. >> Well, they ran you out of town. >> Well, yeah, they said, get your big fat body out of here. >> Right. >> Well, I was on a subway and I was having a panic attack. And I was truly like, I'm underground and on top of me is people walking on the street and on top of them are buildings and on each building, there's like 80 floors of people. Like, that was the thought process and I was like, it could all come down tomorrow, 9/11. And I decided to get out of there. And like within two weeks, I had moved out there. >> 9/11, which is the launch date of Alaska's new album, The Burnette Album. >> And she's Burnette now. Thank God. >> I got up to mom. >> Leave some blonde wigs for the rest of us, please. >> Yes. >> Well, my favorite quote from you is, I didn't do drag to be a Burnette. >> I didn't. >> I neither did I. >> Well, I look red now. >> I'm going to do reds. >> Oh, you look good in red. >> Yeah. >> You do kind of like, reanna red too, that like red red. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Well, you do orange kind of. >> Whatever Fina's got in that bag of wigs at her house. I just kind of, I'll text her two days before and be like, I need a wig. What do you got? And she's like, I'll just find something and she'll just send me pictures of wigs. >> I just did a shoot with Jinx and Jinx sent her a wig to Fina to get reset for the day before. And it was not only like, it arrived like the day before. It was completely the wrong color. Like light washed out like carrot orange blonde. >> No. >> So Fina died it. Fina was like, I never died a human hair wig before. And it was great. >> She's a town. >> Because she could do anything. I was like, Fina, you'll be okay. I got to ask you, what is the grossest thing you've put in your mouth at that slot? It says eaten, but I'm going to say put in your mouth. Is it a sex thing? Is it a food thing? >> I think it was a pickle out of someone's butt. Or, oh, one time. >> Sorry about the poop, mom. But one time I made a jello, no, it was in Tokyo. We did a fat slut in Tokyo and I had someone else. >> You did a fat slut in Tokyo. >> Yeah, the eyes of the top lounge. Yeah, baby, biggest gay bar in Tokyo. And I did that. >> I had never been to Asia. >> Oh, it was, you have to go to Japan. It's absolutely incredible. It's the best, cleanest, nicest city. People kept walking up to me in Big Dipper and just grabbing us and going, "So big." And then we went to a sumo show and they saw us and they were like, come down here. And they made Dipper pick up one of the big sumo wrestlers. Because we're like huge compared to the people over there. And Dipper's, I'm taller than him. So I look like a big soldier. >> I'm just kind of like, bad people aren't toys. Am I woke or did you like it? >> I like any attention I can get. >> Okay. >> Oh, no, but like, be woke. Like, fat people, we shouldn't be a joke. >> Don't just be like, you're big. >> Like, what is that? >> Hi, Big. >> Can I lift you? >> Would you like to go lift something? What is that? >> I don't know, I thought it was funny. >> Did they? >> I wasn't there to judge their culture. You know what I mean? >> That's it. You know what? I think you're right. I think I'm woke, but white. >> That's the problem. >> So one of the foods the guy made was like a bunch of squids and stuff in a jello. Because I had someone else make me the jealous. And he did an incredible job. And one of them was like squids. And I had like just like the most random shit in it. And they were beautiful. Because he actually spent time on them. Because you know mine are just hot dogs and shrimp. >> Yours are crazy girl. And I like took the squid and like was like, oh. And I just never felt anything that loose. >> That just like gave me a chill. I think seafood is sick. >> You don't like seafood at all? >> Let him live, let him be where they live. Why are we in there? We don't need to be in there. >> We don't need to be in the ocean. And we don't need to be in there. With a snorkela I'm being like, I'm here to kill you with love. Like this crazy. >> Are you denying skinny virgins at the door at Fatslet? >> No, we want everybody in there. I think the thing about Fatslet is it's very, we accept everybody. Now when me and Big Dipper did our party called BMI, we did have a scale at the front. >> At the front and when you walked in you got weighed. And if you are under 250 pounds, the whole room booge you. And if you're over 250 pounds, you got a free shot at the bar. >> Cuz fat people matter so big. >> So big, I wish you guys had a button like a sound effects board. >> So big. >> Okay, take that down, no it's taken. >> Dipper's gonna put that in a song. That's crazy, who is more famous in Japan? You or Dipper or the party I guess? >> The party it was, like the party itself was. >> That is so crazy. >> It was insane cuz I was just like, who's even gonna go? And then we got there and it was like sold out, lying out the door. >> Were there fat people? No, but though you know what's so crazy is they're also polite that you know what fat slut if you can't see everyone in front of you It's like sorry bag like it's your fault you didn't get here earlier. They were sitting down on the floor So that people behind them could see and so then we would like we would be like oh no, you can get up You can get up and then I had a translator because a lot of people didn't even speak English So I was up there doing like kill yourself and then I would like turn and look at her then she would say it And then the audience would like say it back and then I'd be like what they say like it was like such a delayed Thing was so funny. That is so fucking awesome. And then the bar there was no rules So one person literally did it as an act well They just put like so many fruits inside of them and then one person did an act where they had like a five gallon bucket of Lub and just ported on themselves and then like ice skated across the stage It was so nuts, that's crazy. I want to go to Japan. You should go. That's you would eat over there. I'm so jealous I've never been to Asia. I spent a week over there and I did nothing but eat food Seven elevens. It was so fun. Oh my god. I remember Chee Chee to Vayne used to be like girl I'm gonna Hong Kong like three times a year. I'm like what? Chee Chee to Vayne? I know I just I guess they didn't want me to get on that rule. Hey, I was just in New Orleans And that was my vocal stem the whole time. I was it lez. They bought the roulette. He's like the good times role Is that what she says? That was her entrance line, but it's also like the Like the motto of New Orleans. I'll give you one from Chee Chee She said we wear a drag race and we're there like three days and she goes I go how you holding up? She goes I miss my cat It's a girl like three days your cat doesn't mean no a cat has even noticed the owners gone after three days Mind you my love me. It's different. It's different. I saw in your update that you're selling a fart in a jar Yes, but it is sold out. Will there be another restart? Yes. I just have to buy more jars Okay, cuz the farts are kind of a renewable resource. Yeah, you fart in the jar and sell it Yeah, the person gets it. Do you think they open it? One person opened it after they had it for a year and Because I said if someone opens their Open upstairs after a long time just let me know if the stink still lasts and he goes open it after a year Still stanky How do you fart in the jar? Do you just do you have clothes on? No, you're naked. You fart naked in the jar You're in your living room or worry. We're doing this. I'm doing it in My laundry room where the jars are and then I will generally if I'm like, oh god a big shipment in I got a Eat like a bunch of tika masala Something very garlicky a lot of Brussels sprouts something that I really get something going and then You know, you take your fiber and then you just fart in the jar and close the lid real quick I slap a sticker of my face on the front and I put it in a box of mail it off Okay, we we got to work on your your enterprise though because I notice that also everything else on your website is also sold out Fuck you. What's going on? I hated shipping it all out. I was doing it myself It's very don't you wish you could get one they're all sold out Well a lot of them say limited edition so leaving them up was sold out on it It's just kind of a cut move, but the fat slut shirts. I have them all but I just hated Like packaging and shipping them cuz I used to ship my own I do it all by myself because it saves you so much money It does and I don't like drop shipping stuff because I never know what the quality of it is gonna be and at least when I have The stuff printed and it's my own I can like fold it up and mail it out And I know they're getting a quality product. Yeah, and when I used to do my own merch I used to also it's like you pack your drag and you have to pack your merch suitcase And you're gonna make sure you have all the sizes. Oh, I chose four suitcases. I used to carry X small up to four X Yeah, cuz I'll tell you that's when there's a four X they're getting two shirts. Oh, yeah, cuz that size is three X even They never have that size so when you have it, they're like all I'm getting one Mm-hmm, and I will never be like all I went to trick scene. She had only medium like you know I mean we had all of it But you got to basically when you come on from your gig you got to unpack the whole merch suitcase We count what it is. Yes cuz you do I don't know I used to wear it at the time So I would know inventory, but you still got to recount it Well, and then I have like a piece of paper so when I sell them at fat slut I have like the person like like mark off what's there and then I recount how many is and make sure it matches It's just like a I just don't like running a business because it's very easy for one two five ten shirts to go missing Yeah, it's like it happens. It's happened Well, I just did a fat slut in New York and I told my assistant at the time I was like can you just grab me five shirts? I'm just gonna throw them in the audience but mark it off and then I Think he misunderstood and just handed me all the shirts. So I'm sitting there me Kyrie Jete I can't remember who else, but we were all just throwing shirts out and I go damn that seems like more than five shirts And then all of a sudden 40 shirts gone to the audience for free But then I didn't have to bring a heavy suitcase. Oh, that's true. It's like you're being paid. Yeah, it's like you're saving myself that So are you shadow band on Twitter? No, just Instagram because we try to look you up and we can only view your profile through something like that you were tagged And it says no results for fat drag people What are we here to expose that was today, too? Are we here to expose you? I think your shadow band gets sold out. You're not on Twitter. You're in Japan. You what you need squid? I that's crazy I knew about it. Did I go check it right now? How are you here to promote yourself when? Okay, well, the shirts are going to be back up later today Oh, yeah, this comes out in two weeks. So if people this shirt will be back up and we have a new shirt coming out Oh, you do what it's yes. Well, it's a picture of my face holding a gun and it says get the gun Kind of red state if you think about it. Well, I'm from Texas get the gun and Get the drag queens away from my kids and love yourself. Love you. Yeah. Did you ever do drag queen story hours? No, I don't want to be around kids. I don't need there. I you know when all that was going on I know it's still going on. I'm here for people's freedom to do it But we are not a monolith. I represent a lot of drag queens who don't I don't want a fucking read to anybody Especially not children. Well, I can't read, but I'll read probably porn to the blind. That's where I draw the line I don't want to do any of that and I was it's a snack. I'd be this be a long story I yeah, no, I've been asked to do it, but I don't want to do it. I don't like kids and I don't like doing brunch is either what would you mean it's the same? Yeah, fuck. I mean brunch is nice because you're done early But I'm not I just want to perform for gaze gay guys at night drunk gay guys at night drunk gay guys are Barely care about me who only one each other. They just want to kiss each other. Well, something's happening behind them Is it still bad? Well, you can't find it if you search it you have to look at like stuff that people like responded to you I think your shadow been would have been done This explains why your career is completely stalled because nobody has a stall. I'm just kidding I was like wait a minute. I thought I was still on the open up. I'm here people go. Oh, there's a stall Maybe here in the ball in the beautiful. Do you know many people had to die for you to get here? Yeah, I literally was like how many people canceled? Was it jasmine masters again? Oh, no. Do they know about that? Yeah, I think we've talked about it everywhere. Well, it's fierce It's really fierce. Um, I have to ask you. Yeah, you have a shirt that says protect bad drag. Yeah, how are you talking about? myself And all those around us and it was also I was just making fun of What was her name? Megami. That was fear because when that happened it was for you Before you to spoof because immediately that night I made that number and then performed it at fat slut And then I made a t-shirt out of it and then I sold sold out of those t-shirts But it made me enough money that I bought a new car and I needed one real bad There's something to be said. I'm chewing. There's something that's ever being in the moment and knowing like if we rush this tonight This will be a banger of a shirt tomorrow. Yes. I sent it over to Andrew powers from pander shirts Have you ever bought anything from pander shirts? Oh my god. They make the best underwear too. You got to go look out of yeah Pander shirts and I sent it to him and I go can you do something with this like right now and then I had the shirts Ready to go and started printing and then just put them up online like within two days. That's like I've done some oh when I um How do you don't start happened? I had the shirt up the next day that tweet immediately when yeah, that was genius Because I was like well, this is funny, but it's gonna be really funny tomorrow if they're sure to Also, I have that morphine tweet that says fuck tricks. I'm gonna tell Cuz yeah, cuz you were rude to her in a bathroom Yes, I was just happy to be seeing the same bathroom as hard me too cuz you guys are both beautiful Beautiful and people kind of think of us as the same, you know like when you look at us. It's like who you know, who? Trap who you know, so I have a question. Which Boy Scout badge do you think that they should not require? Cuz we're two boys go. Yeah, I'm an eagle scout bitch fear Yeah, baby. I went out into the jungle. Well, I went to the woods for a week alone Oh, that's the eagle scout thing that's mine our troop did that every time I bring it up to someone else they're like no I didn't have to do that. No, they didn't Wisconsin. I heard about it. Okay, I quit before eagle, but I do know people who did it mostly it was um It was big with the homeschool kids I wasn't homeschooled, but in our area the homeschool kids took scouting to another level Well, cuz it's probably like we're learning outside stuff. I don't need to know math Um Who needs math? So yeah, I think we should get rid of or wait Was it get rid of no which badge you think is missing like the world is changing very quickly Do you think the kids should have a robotics badge coating coating wouldn't be bad? No, they need a dick sucking badge because that's what I did most of my dick sucking was a boy scout camp Okay, I really perfected the skill there. I did basket weaving. So I don't know what the fuck you were doing Okay, instead of Christmas trees, what should boys go out sell? Do boys go out sell Christmas trees? No, they sell popcorn. Girl, damn Tracy. Were you good at selling popcorn? Cause I tell you, no one wants that shit. My parents would take me to the rich neighborhood and then I would, you know, door to door. I would go door to door in sell popcorn. You artist me to go door to door when I don't have neighbors. Oh my god, I'm gonna walk two miles to my, my neighbor who's their vacation home. We'll see if they're here or or my dad would do the thing where you take it to the office and be like, my son selling a little popcorn if you want to, and he would kind of guilt. I think his employees into buying stuff from us. Oh, yeah. Oh, if your boss does it, you have to buy it, although, for the kids for anybody in my life, who has a child, especially a girl, if it's cookie time, you contact me. Let me know. Contact me. I will say it'll be like, um, like pretty woman, like it'll be like, no, no, not pretty woman. It'll be, it'll be very, you got this. I don't know. I do what you're talking about. Use other words. It's like, how many do you have? No, you heard me. How many boxes can you get to this house? Oh, yes. I want like a thousand. That would be me. I want to make one little girl scout rich. I go. So they sit out in front of my grocery store and they, the girls are taking tap. So I was just like, they used to sell them and deliver them later. Now they have them set up. I love them. Yes. Why do they have them on hand? Is that allowed? Popcorn. Hey, in six months, you're going to get bags, a bag of seeds. What the fuck? That is so stupid. And then the worst part about the popcorn was I would get to their house and hand it to them. And they'd be like, what are you? What is this? And I was like, you ordered popcorn. See? And they're like, okay. Like they didn't want it. A lot of times they just wouldn't answer the door. And so I would just leave popcorn on their front steps. Boy Scouts, can I say the popcorn shit is corny? Oh, get them, girl. And we just do crackers. We don't have to do cookies. Can we just do something else? I don't know. Grenola bars. Many bottles of booze. Serial. Airplane bottles of booze. Airplane bottles of lip-chap. Yeah. Contact lens solution. Something actually useful. Something people need. Battle water. Cleaning supplies. Because I swear to God, the markup on popcorn must be cunti. It's seeds, bitch. Yeah. I don't even know how to cook. And corn is like seeds. How do you make loose popcorn? You put it in a pot full of oil, then shake it, pot full of grit, and then you just shake it up. Pass it on a pop. Yeah. And then you add butter, a little salt. You never made jiffy pop. No, we've tried. We tried to make jiffy pop recently. You burned three of them. Yeah. You got three of them in a row. And slow game. It's a long game. Where you just sit there and do this. It's like this. And it means it went from nothing to smoke coming off it in 10 seconds. Yeah. And sometimes they're just poorly made like the bag won't expand. Some people like to eat burnt popcorn. I like the little kernels at the end. Like the ones that are half popped. Yeah. They're nice. I like to crack a tooth. Oh, don't do it, girl. Ooh. I try every day. I'm chewing on ice. You're not supposed to do that, either. I know. I just like hard things. I used to eat rocks as a kid. Did you do anything gay when you were doing boy scouting? I suck a bunch of dicks. Eating rocks? Yeah. Because I like the flavor. I didn't bite into them. I would just swallow them whole. I'd find a nice shaped rock on a playground and I'd pick it up and I'd like give it a look and how to be smooth and I'd suck on it. And then and then once I felt like there's enough moisture on my mouth, I would just swallow it whole. I think. It's not crazy. I think it's like. So don't do you poop out the rock? Yeah. The rock came out. One time I had worms real bad. When I was a baby, I used to eat sand. And I got worms real bad and it came out my mom was like it was a big the worm was longer than you. Because I was eating the sand like this one by the handful. And it's not pica. I just like eating. You're like one of those dogs who eats his own shit. Yeah. Why do dogs do that? I think he pooped. Oh no. He's like crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. It's it. Did you not eat anything weird when you were a kid? Kabbar. Champagne. Diamonds. Which are rocks. Which are rocks. You famously performed as George Santos. Yeah. That was really obviously a major turning point and people's awareness of you, even though you're shadow band on the internet. Is there anybody else in politics? Is there anybody else in politics who you think is gay? Is gay? Oh. Who is gay? Why are you gay? Why are you gay? Ericka Kirk. I think she's a hardcore lesbian. Interesting. Just based off of the, yeah. Lazy to lazy. I think it was. It's her eyeliner and her intensity and like how she thinks she's cool. But she's not. I maintain that everyone with blue eyes is evil. Well, yes. So think about that look. That's in the Bible. And they've been nerfed. Blue, but why do people have the nerve just sit there like this? Well, have you seen those memes of like black people when they put blue contacts in and they just go, baby, the memes are some of the eye color change surgeries because that makes me. Those are insane. Those are insane. It makes me bricked. Did you watch the caterpillar documentary? The caterpillar. Girl. Oh, where the guy got the wrong color. Yes. Oh, no. I haven't heard about it. But I looked at the pictures. I get to that color girl because he wanted blue. And the guy next to him was getting green and they do three eye surgeries at once in the same room. And he wakes up and they do one eye first. He looks in the mirror. He goes, does this look green to you? Meanwhile, it's lime, wire, lime glowing lime green. It's zombie green. It's it's an insane color. It's cocoa, Monterese green. Not of nature. It's not of nature. And then he's like, are you sure? And they're like, yeah, that's blue. The doctor's on camera. I mean, like that's blue girl. You got this girl. And then the guy next to him wakes up was like, uh, this looks green, doesn't it? And he goes like, uh, and so he acts, no, that guy accidentally gets blue. Yeah. And so then they go, what we can do is we can take him out of his eye and your eye and we can switch it. And he was like, ah, and they're on camera suggesting this, like doctors. You can't go get a new one. No, he flew all the way to, uh, I believe indeed, to get the surgery and then so many people have complications. They lose vision. Well, this is why I'm not getting lay sick. I'm terrified. Have you heard about like the dry eyes syndrome? Your eyes don't produce water. So you're just putting eye drops in them all the time and then everything kind of gets blurry for a while. Yeah. It's ruined people's lives. So I'm not getting nothing under my eyes. Well, you look great in glasses too. Thank you so much. Do you ever shave your eyebrows? I used to because because you have these nice big frames, it probably helps if you go no eyebrows. Mm. Are you trying to, you're praying for my downfall? No, I feel like if you have no eyebrows and you have a big round face or eyebrows and a big round face, you're going to look like Humpty Dumpty. No, no, no, no, if you do shave them off, but you wear big frames, I think it helps hide them. Oh, no. No, I don't want to shave my eyebrows. I did it for so long and now I was, I looked insane. It's a weird lifestyle. Well, you know, what's weirder is when they shave and just leave like the little dot. Katia, because like, who am I? Who are you fooling? Oh, my God. She looked like just braille. She looked like just a Rorschach, like a two, two, two, what is the point of it? Ginger did it for a while. I don't know. And at that point, like girl, it could draw the whole fucking. I know. They're always like, I can, it helps me start my eyebrow, but it's like, just start it wherever, like you know where it is. You know where it is. You have a brow bone. And why is it starting where your male brow male one is anyway? Yeah. Cause mine is up here. We know what yours is. Okay. Yours is up here, bitch. And into the wig into the woods. Into the woods. Into the woods. I wish. Who are your top three favorite fat sluts? Oh, Tammy Brown, she's a big girl, I don't know, she'd be like, Mipa was right, Gorda. Gorda. I just had the, when that totally be her, that would be her, is that the word for fat? It is. That would be her. Mipa is right, Gorda, I've had her at fat slut every time I've done it in P town. She's incredible. Oh, that must go over really well in P town. Yeah, I think I'm going back for Halloween. So this will be out by then. Oh, oh, you mean actual fat people? Okay. I would say Dr. Phil before he lost the weight. Okay. I would say Oprah Winfrey before she lost the weight. Okay. And I'm going to give it up to a fat Christina Aguilar, because she was real bitch. Have you ever done an Oprah number? Yeah. I was going to say, you probably smash an Oprah number. I did. You get a car, you get a car, you get a car mixed with her bread speech. And I got a season to assist from the, from Jenny. What is it? Jenny Craig? No. Who was it? Weight Watchers? Oh, fierce. Because I was using their audio. YouTube, and I was like, I guess whoever put it up monetized it. So they wanted your shadow band, making enemies left and right. Not with Oprah though. But during the, you get a car part. I went to this hardware store and I was like, you guys got me like loose keys, you know, from when you cut keys. So they gave me a whole box of just incorrectly cut keys. So whenever I perform it, I would just take a handful of keys and just throw it at the audience. Which is absolutely at the same day. And dangerous. Oh, so dangerous. You're like, LASIK hurts people's eyes, but I'm going to keep chucking chains in it. Yes. Have you ever seen a makeup tutorial? I've followed the first time I did my makeup. I tried to follow the Miss Fame tutorial. That's a great place to start. And then I kind of just gave up and just did whatever. I made a lot of mistakes. She doesn't lie. I think she lies in hers because she's like, just to smudge at this. And then there's like a cut and it's done and I'm like, so what did you do? How did you use that, bruh? She does something really iconic that I've always seen her do, which is she cuts her. crease with a lip pencil, like a night moth or like a dark purple, whatever, then blends that out so slowly. Then does like her layering process is so, I just feel like most drag winds are like, girl, I'm not sitting here doing that. The fun of drag for me is not putting the makeup on. I know for a lot of people it is and then like looking and then just standing. The fun of drag for me is like being a nightmare and like terrorizing a bar and then blacking out and then leaving. You're doing it, girl. Thank you. Thank you. If I can do it. If it's the apocalypse and you have to join, you have to have you ever seen a makeup tutorial, bitch. Um, I'll try to think of who I've, I've really watched a full tutorial of I don't know actually. I just don't have the, I don't like watching. I'm, I'll figure it out. I mean, sure, there was a point when my whole face used to be just bright gold because I didn't understand what bronzer was. That's fine. That's okay. You never had a blue contact face. No, that's good. I did. These were ice blue. Oh, I'm here. So I can find other people's fake eye colors. Maybe looking like dawn of the dead. I looked to do her contacts now. No, you're just over that. I just one day took them out because they were, they were, they hurt. They always, they're irritating and no one noticed. And I was like, I guess I don't care if no one else cares. There's some girls. I love Monet when she puts those like light green ones in. Yeah. They look really good on her. Like Naomi's are really good. Well, I don't know where she, hers are getting coming from somewhere. But Bianca's are cool. They're like that ice great thing. Oh, yeah. Candy, whatever that like ice blue is the girls wear. Yeah, that I think. But I don't think it works for me. Kati has blue eyes. And I always wonder why she didn't wear something to like maybe enhance the blue a little bit in drags because she's a woman. She's trans. And everyone knows it. And we've all been talking about it and no one wants to speak on it. I know she's on her break. What if she just comes back? She was ticked and busy. Wow. She's like, bet you knew. You think she would go do that without telling everybody her secret, her secret, her secret. Well, that's what she was actually getting her bottom surgery when she was complaining about having poop problems or whatever last time she's getting addicted. Thank God. So it's the apocalypse. And you have the joint, you have to join these groups to survive. Are you joining the twinks, the muscle daddies or the pups? Oh, muscle daddies. Cause they seem like they would know how to build. I could become their queen or court jester. I would do the entertainment and the cooking. The pups, they're going to want to just if all day, and their neoprene starts to smell after a while. And that's something I can't deal with. Yeah. And the twinks, they're not going to get up to anything but fucking each other. I love the pup people. I love them, too. I love it. Have you been the howl at precinct? No, the lights and sound guy at precinct when I DJ is usually in the pop mask. And I feel so cool being like, you're a dog. I'm a cross dresser. We're just like, we're of the same age. It feels like like we're off to see the wizard. I don't know. Like, no, what about? Like, there's a dog. There's a bear. It's like, we're off to see the what it's very. I don't know. Gummy bears, like we're all like, I don't know. He's great. I love him. I did. Have you been to the, you have them now? I haven't been. And how do you feel about the furry community? Are they on the same level as pups? If I have to play favorites, I love the pups. I think that whole performance is fun. But the furries, it is very epic. The big costumes and stuff. Yeah. When they take over, I just love that when I see videos of them like taking over a full hotel, walking by a family with their kids, the furry, the furries to me seem less sexual. The pups, it seems like it's really about sex. I couldn't tell you. I'm not any there. But I think that the pups like roll around with each other a lot more and like arf, arf at each other. They be sniffing butts and everything. Yeah, they put down a play pin and then they throw a bunch of dog toys in it and then they roll around in it. Oh, that doesn't hurt anybody. It's not. We're not hurting people. A lot of people's asses. That's not hurting anybody by myself. Thank you. And I've been trying to die for a damn year now. I got hit by a car on my motorcycle five months ago. No, you didn't. Yes, I did. You never believe me when I tell you these insane things that happen. Well, that's like the time. Remember when you were going to bird scooters, then you fell off. No, I ran into a tree. Oh, did that really happen? Yes. So wait, you were on a motorcycle. I fractured my wrist. I have a motorcycle. Actually, I get it fixed right here. You were a motorcycle. Yes, because of the give it up for our trans community. And then I waived and I was riding on a motorcycle. I pride that one time that viral video. I don't know what you're doing. Like, I don't know how people struggle to be interesting and drag. And you haven't said one thing that isn't awesome since you've been here. Sorry. Every single story you've told is like the coolest thing that could happen to one person once. And you're like, oh, girl, that was Tuesday. Like, I'm trying to die. I'm not here for let me. He pickles on the asses of the last year. Well, I said I wasn't going to make it past 35. No, I said I wasn't going to make it past 32. I'm now 37. I lied about my age earlier. Right. I'm trying to die, Trixie. I know there's not much left for me to do. So I got hit by a car and she drove away. On a motorcycle. Yeah. I got knocked off the motorcycle. Motorcycle in front of a children's birthday party in a lesion park. Are you injured? It was five months ago. I'm fine. My wrist was going cleat for a little bit, but it's fine now. And then I we suit her. It's fine. And so I'm lying on the ground in front of this children's birthday party. They're all screaming and crying. Their parents are rushing over to me, being like, are you okay? And then we're like, we got a picture of her car. We got a picture of her car. And I was like, I just want to get out of here. And they're like, why don't we take you around the corners of the kids will stop crying? Isn't that nuts? I mean, I don't want to. Did you have a helmet on? Yeah. Oh, God. God. What the fuck? Who are you? I joined a game motorcycle group. And they were going 80 on the highway. And I said, this is scary. So I just pulled off and rode my bike home the other day because they were going 80 on the highway. Girl, can I tell you I drive in Los Angeles and I drive the speed limit. People are about ready to run me off the road. People are beeping. I'm getting the finger because it's 65 and I'm going 65. It's crazy. Well, you got to go at least 10 over. I just think that's it's going to pass. People die there every day. Oh, well, that's crazy. Yes. I'm like, why do we have to risk our lives? I think you should be allowed to go to the speed limit. I'm in the right lane. I'm like, it's not even like I'm the slow person. Yeah. Why am I an issue? Where I'm going to do drag is like if we don't get there, it's curtains. I'll be late. I'll be five minutes late. Whatever. Who cares? What are they going to do? You're never late, though. You're always super early to everything. Well, thank you. You hire a lot of drag queens. Do you have girl? Do you feel like, no, she was late once she's done or she was a bitch once she's done? Like what are the behaviors that people are if they are overly late? Like I understand a girl being like, I'm outside. I'm looking for parking. That's one thing. But if I booked you for act what and I said get there at 10 o'clock and you show up at 11 and you're like, I'm sorry, something happened. And there's not like a valid excuse than you're probably not getting booked again. And if you're rude and messy in the dressing room, I won't book you again. What do you think about friends in the dressing room? I'm against it strongly against it. It better be like your your legal husband. Not even that. It better be somebody who works for you. Yeah. And I think you can have one dresser. But if I'm having my assistant or a stage manager backstage, they could help dress you if it's a zipper unless it's something overly complicated. But just having people in the room to yap, I hate unless the show is over and it's 3 a.m. and everyone's been kicked out of the bar. Like that group of five people can maybe come back there if they're chill. I feel the same way. I don't like anybody in the dressing room. I don't like music in the dressing room. I'm like, it should be calm and clean so we can be gross over there. Yeah. Oh, I absolutely and I will. If if someone's been in there too long or like one time I had to kick this drag queen out because she was in the show before mine. And I was like, yeah, I get that. But now you're not in this one. So you got to get out. And I gave her so many hints and she wouldn't. So I finally like had the security come get her. I'm not not above that getting security to get a drag queen out of a bar. Well, yeah, because you're trying to have a fun time. But people also kind of will just abuse it. Yeah. And you guys have go goes and stuff with their real money, their real wallets and versus and phones. It's like. I wanted to feel safe for the queens that are in the room, but also like, say for me to like, say horrendous shit to the backstage. And also what if you like are changing naked and what if there's a lot of what ifs of like, I need my moment back here to breathe for a second. If I back here, it's for a breather. Yeah. It's not so that I come back here and there's another party. Yeah. That's my favorite thing is to like hide in the dressing room. Absolutely. If it's like getting crazy out there and I just need like a moment to recoup because I'm overwhelmed or overstimulated. I just like to sit back there, hit my vape and text. Oh, yeah. When I come, I never go back to the dressing room and precinct unless I genuinely know somebody in there. Usually, Fena or you. You have it. Yeah. Yeah. You just stand up on the DJ booth. Yeah. I usually just go in the DJ booths. And that's why I'll tell people like friends and stuff. I'll be like, go up to the DJ booth. We've recently kind of implemented like a little roped off side on the side for like my friends to go stand in so they can come in and out of the dressing room. I've seen that. Yeah. That's nice though. Yeah. Why do you think precinct has such good breakfast food? Oh my God, that brunch. That brunch is not a joke. And it was the vegan chorizo wrap. But they stopped doing the brunches. They're not even doing them anymore. It's so sad. But I think it's because all the food at precinct is good. But I was like, not the brunch food. I was there last night. They ran out of the chicken tenders on chicken tinder Tuesday, which is crazy because that's what they sell it at. I love precinct. I love precinct. I love precinct. I mean, I'd be nothing without you precinct. It's true. Well, that was the only bar that I was performing at. Well, I did all the competitions in WeHo when I started. But none of the girls, I never want anything. And none of the girls really liked me over there. I saw you one set ready. line? Is that right? Downtown? Maybe. It doesn't exist anymore. Oh, man, pinche. I saw you in the pinche. Do you have Dallas now? But yeah, pinche. Oh, really? Change your name. Change your name. Oh, I didn't know that. I, um, I was there. I can't believe me. Orville pecked there. It was for, I think you didn't. Oh, which, no, I was just there because Orville was like, you should come. And then Dallas was hosting her show and it was her show and Orville kept going, why don't you just go up there and do a little number? And I was like, she won't let me. She won't let me do a number at her show and front of camera Diaz. Yeah, they would, she wouldn't let you do number. She won't let me do a number? That was a nice little bar. I've only been the ones. It's closed now. It's now Kiso, which is like a little closer to precinct. Have you been the Kiso? No, it's cute. It's like a, it's got like two bars in it. It's like a long runway. They do a lot of, they do, look up the party. Do not disturb. It's a fun time. Your current favorite gay bars in Los Angeles, obviously precinct is at the top of the list. Precinct. The eagle. I haven't been there in so long. And then I was just there last weekend, like a pig. Where are you? I went to like every gay bar in city last weekend. I was home over all weekend. That's one of the type of thing where you're home over all day. And you finally get up to shower to go back out on casting. I guess on Saturday. I was there, but I don't remember the last thing I remember was getting pizza in that in WeHo. We saw each other at Eagle. When I'm just remembering this, you walked in and I gave you a hug. At the Eagle, we were there Saturday. Oh, you left early. You were turned. Oh, yeah. I was you were slurring. Apparently, I was like wasted wasted. I don't remember. Yeah, you were slurring. I've never heard you slur before. I just want to say not to make you an alky, but for you to be slurring, I'm like, damn, and it was like 10 o'clock. Well, I had been drinking since three o'clock because I went to go support my friend in the show at the Abby. And so then we we got pizza and then we went to the Eagle. And I was like, girls, I don't know if I could even be here. And I vaguely remember everyone was like, no, you left after like 20 minutes. And apparently, I was like fingering people on the back. So I was told the least that I think you should go. Yeah, they was it. It was meat rack. It was meat rack. The party was meat rack. All I remember was I woke up with with Del Taco in my bed. Oh my god. Relately, I this horrible. I've never had Del Taco. You're not better than me. Uh, it's definitely better than Taco. No, I'm not saying I'm saying no, no, no one was saying it, but I, but I love what I was saying was okay, you go. I love what I, I love Taco Bell. Is it? How does it compare to Taco Bell, Del Taco? It feels like, I don't know if this is even the right word, but like real or food, like it feels like the meat isn't like, you know, the Taco Bell meat is like crumbles and wet. See, I don't eat. Oh, you don't eat me. So I get the veggie items I talk about because they have a lot of veggie items. Oh, well, the bean and cheese burrito at Del Taco is what I go for. Are you serious? Yeah, I got to get that because there's one right by Akbar. Yeah. And that's, I guess that was one of my stops on the way home. Sure. Long walk home. Long. She went, you know, I got lost on the way here today from Hollywood. Oh, is this? This is a new studio. And I don't, and I don't want to put the address in because I'm like, I know where it is. I made it to like almost the CVS and what's Hollywood was like, I missed it. This is my second time here. And literally this time was the first time I came from, I think the right direction and like didn't pass it. And all right, as I went by, I was like, Oh, that's the shop that I got forgot my motorcycle fixed at. Like, I was like, I know where this is. Yeah, but no, no, guess not. Well, will you tell the kids at home where they can find you? Obviously, no, we're not Twitter. Bye, not listen. It's supposed to be fat drag meatball on Twitter. Guess you can't find me there. You got to type in @spiciestmeepal on Instagram. And you got to do the whole thing. And if you can't spell spicy as to please don't follow me. And go to a fat slut LA on Instagram as well or sloppy pod on Instagram as well. Oh yeah, we're going to do a bald scenario. So we're doing this thing while Katie's gone where we have this bald cap full of a bunch of suggestions. And you're going to pull it out and you're going to tell us what we do in this scenario as a bald person. Okay, think like Big Dipper. You're non-binary hairstyles. Cut your bangs a centimeter too short. Do you say anything? I believe it's a bald person. I would not have bangs. This was a true question to see if you're an ally to our community. Thank you. Thank you. Let me rub your bald head. Only a true ally would know that. Thank you. Or is it like bald? Is it hair affirming? If you're bald? Okay, if you're a hairdresser and a bald person comes in, it's like a little bit off the top. Are you like? Snip, snip. Are you going to play a long? Yeah, you're going to live there fantasy. Like when I wear my fake mustache. And I make everyone pretend like it's real. I think that's fine. Why don't you just grow one? I can't. I physically can't look. This is two weeks of growth. Oh shit. Okay, damn. I mean, I can't grow that. I feel like we have a similar. I can't grow anything like that. I can't. I can't even grow that here. This is patchy too. I have to shave it off tomorrow. Yeah, you should get out. Bye. [Music]

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The host reflects on their early baldness as a deliberate choice to maintain a consistent look, contrasting it with others' aging hairlines.
  2. Drag performance is portrayed as a form of artistic rebellion and chaos, often involving shocking or taboo elements like food, bodily functions, and absurdity.
  3. The conversation highlights the influence of drag culture on personal identity, with humor and self-deprecation central to the experience.
  4. There’s a recurring theme of bodily autonomy, including grooming, hair loss, and the discomfort of being seen as "unconventional" in public.
  5. The hosts share stories of outrageous drag performances, such as eating pickles, using wigs, and involving audience participation in taboo acts.
  6. Drag queens are seen as community figures who challenge norms, including gender, age, and societal expectations around appearance and behavior.
  7. The discussion touches on the intersection of drag, politics, and pop culture, referencing figures like Oprah, Monet, and political activists.
  8. A strong emphasis is placed on the joy and absurdity of drag as a form of self-expression, often rooted in humor, freedom, and community bonding.

Summary:

The conversation centers on the vibrant, chaotic, and often absurd world of drag performance, blending personal storytelling with cultural commentary. The host reflects on their early decision to go bald as a form of self-control and identity stability, contrasting it with the natural aging process of others. Drag is celebrated not just as a performance art but as a form of rebellion and liberation, where humor, bodily experimentation, and taboo topics like eating pickles or using wigs in absurd ways are embraced.

The narrative highlights memorable moments from live shows, including a notorious incident involving a hot dog being inserted into a guest’s rear, and a surreal performance in Tokyo where a squid-filled Jello was served. The hosts also discuss drag’s role in challenging societal norms around gender, appearance, and body image, citing icons like Ellen DeGeneres and Rosie O'Donnell as potential drag collaborators. The tone is irreverent and playful, emphasizing the joy found in chaos and the freedom to be unapologetically unconventional.

Personal anecdotes about boy scouting, eating rocks, and motorcycle accidents add layers of authenticity, while the discussion on dressing room etiquette and performance logistics reveals a deep understanding of drag’s behind-the-scenes realities. Ultimately, the conversation positions drag as a dynamic, evolving, and deeply personal form of art that thrives on spontaneity, humor, and community.

FAQs

The transcription suggests this is a misunderstanding or joke, as the hosts humorously debate whether baldness distorts the face, with no factual basis provided.

The co-host decided to go bald young as a plan to maintain a consistent look over time, saying he 'lucked out' by choosing early baldness to avoid changes in his hairline.

The hosts share wild tales like a performer putting a hot dog in someone’s butt, a drag queen peeing during a performance, and an attendee eating feces from a pickle — all as part of comedic drag traditions.

The co-host believes drag is art, emphasizing that art is subjective and that the most memorable moments come from chaotic, boundary-pushing performances that leave a lasting impression.

Extreme fashion risks include a queen pulling a nightgown out of her rear, a performer eating a pickle from a butt, and a drag queen with a dry dress that was pulled from her body during a performance.

The co-host contrasts New York’s intense, messy culture with LA’s more relaxed vibe, noting that while New York has a strong drag scene, the quality of life is difficult, and he prefers LA's lifestyle despite its lack of fame.

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