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MBMBaM 795: The Naming of 2026

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MBMBaM 795: The Naming of 2026

Justin and Travis engage in a humorous, reflective, and deeply personal brainstorming session to determine the 2026 theme for their annual podcast. The conversation is filled with absurdity, satire, and emotional vulnerability, as they propose and discard numerous ideas—from "20 Under Mix, Love It Lumpy" to "Fist City" and "Check for Ticks." Many themes are rejected due to their potential for offense, lack of coherence, or being too derivative. The brothers emphasize transparency, admitting they didn’t pre-plan the ideas, which adds authenticity to the process. A key theme of the discussion is community and shared ownership, suggesting a shift from top-down decisions to a populist vote for the final theme. They also integrate real-life experiences and sponsorships, such as promoting Smalls for cat care and ZocDoc for health, blending entertainment with practical value. Ultimately, while no single theme is finalized, the episode reflects their commitment to authenticity, humor, and the value of collective input. The tone balances self-deprecation, genuine emotion, and lighthearted satire, reinforcing the show’s unique blend of personal storytelling and playful chaos.

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Hello, my name is Justin McElroy. If you're listening to this on the day it is released, I may very well be currently, as you listen to this, be getting a routine screening colonoscopy. I say with all sincerity, I would much rather go through this procedure again tomorrow than replicate the audio experiment you are about to receive. Please enjoy My Brother, My Brother, Me, naming 2026. The McElroy brothers are not experts, and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's a sexpert, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mention only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up, you cool baby? One, two, three, four! It's the start of something beautiful. A small acquaintance has blossomed, it's ripened into a precious friendship. I could have never seen what was coming. I could have never seen what was coming for me. Hangs at the skate park, hangs by the beach. My life, it feels like. My life, ah, it's better, it's better with you. This is true, ah, it's better, it's better with two. My life, ah, it's better, it's better with two. My life, ah, it's better with you. I'm gonna read the names of the year in a big list. Awesome, dude. Okay. We started with, of course, Zolo in 2010. Was that like a evil, like a demon? I don't think there was, there wasn't a theme so much as that. I thought Zolo was like a demon that if you called him on the telephone at three in the morning, he'd come to your house and kill you. 2011, 2000 in heaven, get right with Christ. That was a good one. 2012, 2012. He was getting it. 20, dirt, dig it up, get it out. 2014, 20 forward. Oh, 2014. 20, grift teen, the con is on. Sweet stuff. 2016, building bridges. 2017, keep them guessing, zag on them. Needed that after the last one. Collaborate teen, stronger together, Frankenstein teen, become the monster. 2020 is where things get a little interesting. You got 20 funny, fill your life with laughter and love. Awesome. Which didn't. Which didn't track eventually and became 20 honey down to bees-ness. Uh-huh. And then at some point, according to the official Wikipedia, we later retconned the year to be honey funny, fill your life with laughter and bees. Yeah, I told you. Okay. So that's the official. And that is a wrong that stood for far too long that has been set right. And I do feel better. 2021 was big dog run. Big dog run. That's about it. Yeah. 2022. Awesome. 20 rendezvous, fancy takes flight. Yeah. A very good one. 20 sun and sun. 20 surf the vibe. Classic. 20 fungalore, he heard your wish. Then there's 2025, which was very briefly tummy buddy life, dare to care, before morphing into 20 thunder drive faster than. Guys, that one sucked shit, dude. I've been so stressed. Tummy buddy life or tummy. Tummy buddy life. Tummy buddy life was a. That was. You know, I feel that the election of Donald J. Trump was not truly a reflection of the American soul, but rather a reflection of the American soul. It was a reflection of the failings of a system. Our system? Our system that needs to be fixed. Now. I think a little bit of our soul got in there. Sure, it's just a bit of a sticky soul. And that's true of our naming of the year. But I think what it really reflected was how we needed to rethink the entire process. Yes. Yeah. Right? It was a failure of the system. Right. And that's why this year we're not going to use the Electoral College to come up with the theme. It's going to be a populist, full-blown populist vote to come up with the theme. We've rethought it. We're doing it together. Maybe you're not watching the video and you're like, what the fuck's going on? We're all in the same. Maybe we didn't release the video. Maybe we don't release the video. Maybe it was unwatchable. Maybe it's not very good stuff. Maybe there's only the video and the audio didn't work. Yeah. Now, we have had just, I would say, a series, not counting Tell Me Buddy Life, a series of real home runs. Okay. So, I wanted to. Can we stop before we do that and just say, I don't know that I lived particularly faster than fear this year. I did feel like. A bit of a fraudster, if I'm being honest. I didn't do too much. I saw you live at least. You were at least one mile over. I don't live a life. I don't live a life that presents frequent opportunities for courage. I kind of thought that, like, do as we say, not as we do was kind of understood, right? It's not our. I have a theme set for me by my gurus. You know, they have set it up for me. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not a trickle-down theme. I got to get some fucking gurus, dude. It's going to happen. Yeah, you have to, man. Um, right off the bat. I'm the only one who's going to talk about whether or not they live faster than fear and be vulnerable. No, I do every day. I stood on my roof to hang Christmas lights, man. Did you? Yeah. That is brave. Thank you. Did I do anything scary, you dingleberry? I don't think so. So I'm going to pitch 20 dingleberries. I was Scrooge, and I got body slammed by a former professional wrestler. I don't know if you can ever be a former professional wrestler. You know what I mean? Yeah. The dog's in there. The dog's in there. But I got body slammed while I was playing Scrooge. That took a lot of bravery. I did the high ropes course at Great Wolf Lodge. Oh, yeah. There we go. Whoa. Okay, this has gotten too personal. Let's talk about 2026. Okay. Is that your first pitch? What I wanted to say was, the one thing I wanted to try was, 2026, let's go enjoy Christmas. And that would be the theme is, 2026, let's go enjoy Christmas. I don't like the way those two concepts pair together. Okay. It's my problem. I think out of context, they don't know about the specific fact that we are recording this while all of our family is out enjoying each other's company. Yes. And we're stuck here enjoying each other's company. And we're accruing a debt right now by doing this. Yeah, no. I mean, Rachel's going to take a nap later, and I'm going to feel too guilty to take one because we were in here doing this. I won't. I'll take a nap. I don't nap. I appreciate the all. We're in Justin's house right now, and the hospitality he shows us is like such a. Right, you are always. It's so incredible. You're such an incredible host and brother, and I love you so much. These zero sugar Kool-Aid jammers are trashed here, dude. These shits are trashed here, dude. This is absolute junk, bud. This shit sucks, bud. You knew Griffin was coming, and you know how he treasures his jammers? No, yeah. It's the kind of thing you get so other parents will think you're doing a better job than This tastes like the shit that they would make us at church when they would cut it and cut it and cut it. Oh, God, that makes me mad to think about. Oh, man, that makes me mad. I hadn't thought about that forever. You know how you get iced tea, and it's unsweetened at like a function? Yeah. We do that at our church with unsweetened Kool-Aid. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, foul. Anyway, 2026, let's go enjoy Christmas. I don't want to do that. Listen. You do have to type it down, though. That sucks. How am I going to type when I don't have this thing in my hand? I can hold it for you if you want. So many people have put in comments in the past year, have put in comments, yo, Justin, make it 2026. How many people? So many. And I just wanted to go ahead and represent them. Can you increase the- The font size? Dude, the font size and the amount of screen real estate. The font size for sure, the zoom, the amount of screen real estate. I mean, everything about it is illegible and unpleasant. That's too much. No, I don't think it is, man. If you think about a video, I mean, it doesn't really matter because we can- Do you have a subtitle for 2026? Let's go enjoy Christmas. Conceptually challenging. That sucks. Can I go ahead and strike through that? Can I go ahead and strike through that, Travis? Yeah. Leave a comment. I see I've been outvoted. Gonna leave a comment on that for later. Yeah, so we remember. I'm gonna pitch 20 Get Your Kicks, Appreciating the Beauty of America's Greatest Road. I don't know how to hyphenate these. Demonstrating? Celebrating? Celebrating the beauty of America's greatest road. Okay. All about Route 66. That would be an interesting match with our- Yeah. Route 66. I don't want to do a sequel to Car Stuff because we did Car Stuff last year. Well, this is about the road itself. Well, that's about driving and more about the journey. Yeah. All right. Check this shit out. Wait, I'm gonna save that one because I think that's got juice. We are obviously burning some goofy ones right here. How about 20 Check for Ticks, No Time for Lime? Oh, 20 Check for Ticks. 20 Check for Ticks, No Time for Lime. Do you guys, sorry, do you guys like when people don't check for ticks and they get Lyme disease because of it or Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever or any other tick-borne illnesses? He brings this up every year. Yeah. No, it is a serious problem. Some of us got really sick from one of those. It would be nice to raise awareness for one, for a change. Yeah, that would be cool. To do something with them. I just feel like- How often? How often is that going to come up? Anytime you go outside or- Anytime. Even like to take out the trash? If you go in the house of somebody who you think may have been in a forest earlier that day, you better check for ticks when you get home. I do also kind of feel like our audience maybe has a higher preponderance of indoor kids. yeah okay maybe i just thought i i just thought we could partner with justin siberlake for this one but obviously that's we can move on and we don't have to 20 dixie chicks goodbye earl okay so this one's cool i have one too that i'll write yours down dixie chicks god do you guys mind if i just don't do like punctuation and stuff just sort of stenographer it there goes my phone and goodbye yeah goodbye earl that's just the song so i had 20 just the chicks they actually stopped using dixie in 2020 with the release of their eighth studio album gaslighter so but that doesn't that leave room for us to be the dixie chicks yeah we could also if you guys would around the 20 dixie chicks cowboy take me away oh man but it can't be here's the thing i don't want to i don't want to be the dixie boys like so bad yeah and we can't just drop the dixie like the chicks did yeah and just be the boys yeah because that's nothing that's been the seo on that is fucking shot dudes um the dixie dicks what justin do you have one what do you think about 20 stunts and flicks stunts and flicks stunts in flicks in flicks hooray for hollywood huh and so this is a year that is all about appreciating our great stunt artists that's cool yeah that keep our celebrities safe they're out there risking their bodies on the front line to protect you know our ray romanos our yeah he's doing a lot of movies that require stunt people you know it's yeah 20 stunts and flicks hooray for hollywood we just watched uh home alone which has an all-timer oh when he goes across the zipline and turns into a 29 year old small woman yeah and then back into his self yeah for a little while he's into mary martin shit rules uh that's a good one i got i dropped my fucking phone okay i wish i didn't groan that loud when i bent over not that far um 20 hit the bricks we've had it this one i think would be about donald like maybe this is the year where we finally bumped that fucking guy out of the house out of the house oh you're getting i don't know how much i mean yeah i don't know how much weight we can really put behind that effort but if there's anything we can do to hit the bricks pal hit the bricks i i'm pretty strongly worded i'll be honest i'm not gonna write it down okay you didn't like it that much the vibe in the room was so we after i said the vibe in the room was okay so talk about this 20 honey sticks back in business let me sit can i digest it for a minute i'm a yes so that's two yeses you want to hold the mic for this one griffin what's a honey stick is a honey stick one of those things they sell at the farmer's market the farmer's market you get the floyd's fresh fruit yeah do you guys like those i always think i'm gonna like them more than i do no yeah but there's also not a lot there to suffer through do you want my brother to know if i like honey sticks or fucking not you need to be you're right you're right thank you i have griffin i i kind of like them i've become a huge a nightly tea man i'd love to drink a cup of with my wife as we watch our programs yeah that thing's just eating shit left and right dude recording that's the worst part here maybe if i put it to work maybe if you lay it down my honey consumption has easily quintupled um because of this new habit of mine yeah i don't want it in stick form yeah honey stick could also be that thing the ridged guy that they dip in there oh yeah drizzle i do like that as well can we explore some other options before we commit to one that we've done before can we i think honey sticks are also can we just like you said you wanted to do a short one 20 honey sticks back in business fulfills a promise it makes good on some a check that we wrote yeah five years ago however many years it's been tell me what 20 honey sticks to you this is this is attainable everybody can start making these yeah this is a small business this is that this is entrepreneurialism this is this is start your we're gonna cure unemployment they're gonna cure you start your own honey stick brand you send them with your kids okay they show up to the cafeteria yeah yeah they uh the other kids forgot dessert honey sticks griffin slams the slammer i don't also think about the merch opportunities oh yeah store honey sticks different flavors of honey sticks yeah do you remember in 2020 it helped a lot was that it what do i remember what in 2020 we originally had a bee themed one yeah down to bees down to be business for like three months yeah it didn't pan out so we're gonna try one more now we're back in bees 20 honey sticks back in business i don't like it last year i didn't like 20 tell me buddy life i think you pinched 20 money love i hated that one and i stayed 10 toes on that i never liked that one i did not i may have said it i didn't wouldn't have said it if i thought it was gonna go through but i i bowed to the i kissed the ring because we had been doing it for an hour and a half and we had to get the fuck out of there i kissed the ring and i regret it i'm sticking by my guns i don't think so 20 under mix some like it lumpy huh are you gonna write that one down yeah i am actually okay hold my microphone bitch this is good this is good i'm glad i'm glad i closed the vents did you to really hurry things along i wanted to get that scrooge energy in here yeah so this is this can be like don't overthink it you can't sometimes you can just put it out there and have some people like it instead of having to be perfectionist about everything yeah something like it lumpy i actually in my phone i had it written love it lumpy some love it no it just said 20 under mix love it lumpy huh i kind of love it you think can you write down some love it lumpy because saying it makes me happy yeah i'll just do i'll do it like um some yeah that's good oh yeah yeah yeah um some love it lumpy i've got one here that i like 20 tips and tricks hack your life that's cool oh actionable that's cool on my microphone i gotta write that yeah and then we could we could invest uh you kind of rebrand a little bit as like a life hack kind of organization 20 tips and tricks what is it hack your life hack your life okay i'll be honest okay that's fine love the prefix hate the suffix we can change that i know i know i know i'm saying 20 tips and tricks it could be a continuation 20 tips and tricks colon to improve your life right so then it's like one statement oh shit wait that's a good point is that it sounds like we are saying here's 20 tips i like when the 20 is like unrelated completely to the rest of the idea but 20 tips and tricks i think is strong i just don't know about hack hack your life okay there's so many life hacks that are already out there i feel like people would be happier if they stopped stop they stop hacking their life just start living your life yeah yeah 20 skip the tricks just live your life 20 skip the tricks 20 no more tricks well just live your life 20 skip the tricks maybe there's not a shortcut maybe you don't mean maybe just live your maybe don't do it the easy way maybe just do it our way you know what i mean like go your own way go your own way now can it be like but can we couch that like 20 skip the tricks a couple times when presented with the opportunity this year take the hard way don't always you don't always feel like we don't need the asterisk you know it's like yeah sure life you know um i had 20 bag of tricks master i had that too yeah 20 bag of tricks master your magic oh that can be like you know you know what's special about you you actually do know maybe you maybe you used to know it you can take that back and master your magic master your magic 20 i think it's cool maybe not master your magic but the bag of is having a baggage it doesn't sound anything like can we try like do any of them 20 20 sex that sounds exactly like 20 no question yeah um get your nope check four not at all dixie not bad honestly dixie 20 it's not it's close i mean honey i'll go ahead and say that honey's gonna smash in this just the nope stuntson i mean yeah that's in there stuntson is not bad honey honey honey huh 20 honey yeah i mean there's a reason we've been saying can i can i just say the fact that you're surprised by that no no it's just hearing it again it's like returning to it it's like hitting me again what a good way under kind of sounds like ton under 20 under i've got one that i think wait we're reading all of them oh tip sand 20 tips and nope skip the no bag oh no okay 20 punch and digs welcome to fist's city 20 punch and digs welcome to fist city welcome to fist city yeah now travis i'll be honest i think fist city's gonna get a lot of foot traffic from some i'm confused and i will i will say probably pretty disappointed there'll be spiders all over the world wide web don't go in there What'd you think? Uh-uh. No, it's been crawled. Welcome to Fist City. What on earth does that mean? Jesse, I don't want to read this one. I got like 10 hours of sleep over the last like four nights because Gus has croup, and I woke up in the middle of the night, and I wrote this one down. Okay. But I don't want to say it out loud. 20 Big Ol' Tits, Jug City Showdown. I thought that was cool. I didn't know what Jug City Showdown was. It's next door to Jug City. Oh, no, no, no. You took the wrong exit. You went one too far. You got to go back. If you're looking for the Jug City Showdown. I also, can I just say, guys? You're in Nutsburg. You've gone way too far. I am obsessed with the idea of referring to a single breast as a jug. That's a word that works in the plural, I guess, kind of, if it's 1999 and you're on the man show. But I think referring to just one jug is off. What is the name of the year again? Don't drool. Okay, hold on. What is Big Ol' Tits supposed to sound like? 20, 26, 20, it's 20, and then it's supposed to rhyme. 20 and Big Ol'? I didn't know that when I wrote it high at four in the morning. Yeah. All right. All right. So far, so good. It's not bad. No, I don't want to write that down. I was trying to get this one to work phonetically. 20 The Phoenix. Something Phoenix. I don't think that. Is it From the Ashes? Can I tell you? It's the meter, dude. Yeah. I couldn't get the meter to work. Meter ain't right. And the meter's got to be right. The rhyming, I don't give a shit about, but the meter's got to be right. 20 Flick Your Bicks, Burn It All Down. What? Flick Your Bicks? Flick Your Bicks? You've never heard that? It was the ad campaign for big lighters. I don't want to give more free advertising to these corporations. Well, it wouldn't have to be free. I mean, we could. We should hold ourselves. Yeah. Check this one out, guys. Okay. 20 Stevie Nicks, A Moonlight Blessing. Ooh. So Stevie. 20 Stevie, 20. Stevie. Getting one of the things there. That's one of the things. God. This is more of like a, I don't know. What does that mean to you? This is a vibe. No, it's just a vibe here. Fungalore didn't mean anything to me, but it was a vibe and it was cool and I rode that shit to the finish line. I saw Stevie Nicks. Stevie Nicks once live on stage. She came out in the middle of a concert with not Bob Dylan, but the other one. Bruce Springsteen? No. I'm trying to think of like. Neil, no, not Neil Simon. Neil Young? Neil Young, that's what it was. It was all right, but I just, her vibe is like wild, man. Yeah, it's great. It's like wild. I'd love to just harness some of that, I guess. 20 Crunchy Mix, Granola, Grayessa. Okay. Huh. 20 Crunchy Knit. No, you, okay. Well, I guess you got to write that down for history's sake, but. Sounds like you really love it. 20 Crunchy Mix. Not the granola part though, for sure. Granola, question mark. Nope. Question mark, Grayessa. And this is just like a celebration of granola? Yeah. The N and the O should be capitalized. Can I tell you something, Justin, that I've just noticed? Griffin and I are both pulling from a list that we constructed. Yeah, worked hard on. And it seems like you just pulled 20 Crunchy Mix straight out of your ass hole. Are you generating these? Is this generative? You know that this happens every year. It's like the holidays. The holidays can be a tough time for families. 20, 20, watch the Wix. I've never come up with them beforehand, guys. I've never come up with them beforehand. It's just usually we are. You don't see it. I don't see it. You don't see it. The energy. Yeah. You always have your hands out of screen and you're making wrestling noises that you have like a legal pad. You shuffle papers from time to time, which I thought was. Keep them true. I feel like. Please, it's a good one. It's a good one. I don't want to read it now. Okay, we'll circle back. Yeah. I'm worried that. You guys are going to take this assumption that I didn't come up with these ahead of time and you're going to let that color how you feel. About the ones you made? The other ones. Well, that can go either way. Sorry, the ones that I've made before now. The ones you've made. I mean, let's go back. No, no, no, no, no, no. That I have not yet announced, but have previously made. Oh, you're saving the good ones. I'm worried. No. Okay. What? You just told us there aren't ones that you prepared ahead of time. That's not what I said. You guys made an assumption that I didn't prepare ahead of time. You didn't deny it. I didn't realize I was on trial, Travis. I thought I was recording a podcast. Okay, is 20 Crunchy Mix one you made up before this recording? It's not one of the best ones I made up. Okay. Justin's hemorrhoid pillow is making my back sore. Seems like it's doing the opposite job that it's supposed to. That's the lumbar pillow. You're sitting on the back. I had 20 Burning Wicks Light in the Darkness. Light in the Darkness sounds so hugely, hugely, hugely. Christian. Yeah. Yeah. Which is ironic because I liked 20 Watch the Wicks, Keep Them Trimmed and Burning. You know, that's from, I think, one of the sermons on the mount, and it's like, be ready. I also had 20 more John Wicks. Just saying, like, keep making them. I enjoy John Wick movies. I would like 20 more. Should I write any of those? I would rather you didn't. Okay. Yeah. I would rather you write down. Something that rhymes with 20? I would rather you write down 20 under. 20 under bricks. Cobblestone Ahoy. And this is interesting because there's cobblestone under a lot of our brick streets, and they're so beautiful, and they really can. Is this just telling people to dig up. Go smash up. Yeah, Travis, just telling people, go smash up the streets. I knew that you guys would start. Do you guys like My Brother, My Brother and Me? It's my favorite podcast. Hand me that jackhammer so I can smash up this street. I knew you guys were going to start acting. Hey, we're in Brooklyn now, smashing up the streets, because your brothers told me to. Hey. Once you guys decide to do it, that I hadn't made these up ahead of time, I knew you were going to start being critical like this. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. 20 river sticks, the souls must flow. River doesn't sound anything like 20. Not like under bricks. Okay, but 20 river sticks, the souls must flow. It's very threatening, now that I've said it out loud. It's really threatening. It's very threatening, actually. Trav, I'm worried you're going to be blowing that mic out if you swallow it like that. Is there something we can do with the band sticks there? Say a river, something like. 20 classic sticks. 20 classic sticks. 20, 20. 20 funky sticks. 20 funky sticks. Back and funkier than ever. 20 pickup sticks, the staff is yours. Oh, 20 funky sticks out to the boneyard. And it's like you're. Out to the boneyard. Get the B-sides, those sticks B-sides. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, and we can do all bones and stuff for our. I like that. Dress up like Skeleton out to the boneyard. I like the aesthetic of that. Now I'm hung up, though. On something like 20 perfect sticks. Like, you know, search the field or a walk in the woods. But we're. It's the. It's the undie. Undie. It's the undie of the whole thing, you know? Funky. I don't. Travis. 20, funky. Travis, can we be a united front here against this, I would say, draconic, authoritarian, we-have-to-rhyme-with-20 thing? Yeah, man. Because there's 10 of them, Justin, that will have 20 in the middle. We've done a good job. A lot of the time doing it, we have earned one where we can say whatever the fuck we want to. Okay. 20, 20, 6, 7. Let's keep it going. Now, I think it's very funny. Huh. I think it's very funny. Would this be a two-year one? Yeah, I think it's very funny if Jan won, we plant the flag and say, like, I know everyone's getting sick of this one. I know everyone's getting sick of this one. But for one year. Yeah. No, dude, because if you do it, it has to be the theme for two years. We're saying 730 days. 20, 26, 7. Keep it going. Yeah. That's awesome. I thought when you said keep it going, I thought you meant for two calendar years. That's what I assumed, because it's 6, 7. It's bridging the gap. That is cool. And I promise you that us, like, three middle-aged dudes saying it a lot would kill it. And you would. And our show. I think both. But there's the thing, right? Yeah, it's a mutual assure. Then we kind of grab onto it. March of 2027, and we're still like, what's up, man? Hey, what's up, T2? Hey. Can I get a, a yeah, please, for the love of God. Please. Where'd you all go? We're going to stream more Fortnite, you promise. Go ahead and write down 2026. All right, you got to get on. You're goofing out. You're busting out of frame, bud. Oh, you're right. Do you want to hear my actual favorite one? Oh, I don't know if I'm ready yet. Okay. I got, like, a bunch more stinkers. Oh, okay. Oh, wow. 20 pick and mix. Grab bag year is another one. - That's the only one that I had. - Huh, that seems to- That seems too hard for us to, I want to be able to control the message a little bit. Yeah. Although that does keep us from having to, like, take the blame for when it's really bad. That's true. Like coming out of life, which I do like. 20 see what sticks, throw it all at the wall. That was my favorite one. 20 see what sticks, spaghetti at the wall. Wait, guys, I came up with 20 see what sticks, spaghetti at the wall. Are you kidding? No, but it was one of the many that I came up with ahead of time. Are you guys married to spaghetti? No, but I will if it's required for the role. What was yours, throw it at the wall? Will you open mouth kiss a plate of spaghetti for $150? In front of my wife. And an IMDB credit. Throw it all at the wall. 20? I think throw it at the wall would be better. I think all. You don't like the rhyme? 20, 20, 20? 20 see what sticks, all at the wall. That sounds like we're about to get into ball with the ball. Yeah, throw it. So you're writing it down immediately, right? No, I said at the wall. Throw it at the wall. 20 see what sticks, ball with the ball. That's a Mbembe-ass name, man. Yeah, that's good. I would love to work with Richie on some. Yeah, sure. I don't know. We could fix. We could fix him. Guys, you put us in a room with Kid Rock. We go out to a cabin for a month with Kid Rock. Not in this room. Not in this room. Not in this room. We would need a lot more ventilation. Well, we would need space to kind of like break off and like have our own kind of like sessions where we internalize a lot of the stuff that we talk. I think you give us a month in a cabin with Kid Rock and we could fix him. We could fix his ass. Or break him. Yeah, I mean, either way. We'd have to break him first. Yeah. I said 20 under makes love it lumpy, right? Yeah. 20. 20 pumped up kicks. Foster your people. I don't love the undercurrents of that song. The undercurrents of the song are obviously not ideal, but foster your people. Foster your people is good. And it has a theme song already. Yeah, but once again, the theme of the song maybe is not something we want to introduce. Yeah, I don't know that that's your best. All the little kicks with the people. That's not it. 20 honey sticks. I forgot what the other part was. Foster your business. Okay. Are you guys out? No, I'm not even close. 20 funny flicks. The Hangover Trilogy. Available on Netflix for a limited time. 20 funny flicks is maybe better. You like that rhyme, don't you, you pervert? Nasty fucking boy. It's less sweaty than stunty flicks. It's true. It's true. 20 funny flicks. I will say this. I think. I don't think there's a world in which stunty flicks should take it and funny flicks shouldn't. Yeah, no, I agree. Because there's so many great laughs in the history of cinema. It was stunts in flicks. So you would probably know that if you had your own document that you had written. I was doing all the tech for the other stuff. That's true. That's a good point. Here's one of mine. 20 fiddle sticks. Screw ups welcome. Okay, so I really, really, really like 20 fiddle sticks. I had 20 fiddle sticks. Me too. I think I wrote, tried to write forgiveness within, but I wrote forgiveness within. Which is. Which kind of fits. Hey Griffin, real quick. Just type out 20 fiddle sticks forgiveness within if you could. Because I'm thinking that. Autocorrect. No, no, no. Forgiveness. No. Wow. Damn. Wow. Really doesn't want coward. Yeah. Looks like it says for governess. Like this is a letter for the governess. I mean 20 fiddle sticks. Poe, but he's Nerfing. I thought I had that thought. Forgiveness within. Forgiveness within is cool. It's going to be hell for. It's going to be hell for every poster designer, every website that talks about the theme. Yeah. So when the New York Times covers it. Yeah. I like 20 fiddle sticks a lot. 20 fiddle sticks is just like, what is a fiddle stick? I know we say it when we fuck up. I assume it's a weight of what you play a fiddle with. Should we make sure that fiddle sticks isn't some like terrible shit dog whistle? Something like terrible thing that if you hear fiddle sticks. You guys looked that up real quick. I mean. Let me check my list. Yeah. Check your list, Justin. JD Vance calls his wieners fiddle stick. What's in here? It's a character in League of Legends. 20 Huff and Vicks. Clear it up. Ooh. 20 Huff and Vicks is nice because there could be a branding partnership there. I don't think they want to be thinking about people huffing it. I don't think they like huffing the product. But it does. Clear it out. Yeah. Clear it up. Clear it up. Dry it out. Clear it up. Dry it out. Dry it out. Open it up. Dry it out. Open it up. Dry it out. Just like Ben Shapiro. What? Oh, yeah. Dry it out. Open it up. I don't. Justin ruined it for me with that. Yeah. 20 Huffy Tricks. Check this shit. Ooh. Not check this shit. That's not good. But 20 Huffy Tricks is one that I. BMX Adventures. BMX Adventures. Another. Oh, you're separating co-branding opportunities. Yeah, that's a good idea. That's smart. That looks the same. Yeah. 20 Huffy. Tricks. Tricks. Yeah. BMX Adventure. Gleam the Cube. BMX. No, Gleam the Cube's. Is Gleam the Cube skateboarding or bicycling? Gleam the Cube? That sounds like some. I don't know. It sounds like Stranger Things to me. I don't know. Sounds like something out of Stranger Things. Can we get a Stranger Things? Oh, man. We could. Collaboration. 20 Yummy. 20. 20. Watch Netflix. Stranger Things. Stranger Things. Out now. 20. It's all done. It's the new home of Batman. 20. Love Netflix. Mm-hmm. Stranger. Danger? Stranger Danger. No. Great TV. Yeah. Great TV. At. On demand. At Netflix. Yeah. No, not BGH Podcast Production Tracker. That's not it. Let's do that. What if our motto had our entire schedule on it? Yeah, that would be so fucking cool. Put that on a poster. Are you okay? Yeah, I'm just thinking about it. That's a good one. I just think we could really help Netflix with this. Yeah, sure. At Netflix. I mean, this is a reminder. That's a reminder, yeah, to hashtag them. All right. The no great TV. That was really important punctuation. Yeah. I think there's too big of a chance that that period will get left out. Oh, you know folks are going to come up to those signs and tag them. The Spobie people are going to have a field day with Photoshop on that one. 20. 20. I had 20 Jump the Crix, a boy's wilderness adventure, but that's not branded. No. Oh, okay. Check this one out. A lot of ours are about doing stuff for yourself, like get right with Christ, surf the vibe. Yeah. A lot of that is about what if this year was about taking time and energy to help someone else achieve just one dream, one goal. 20 got your six, become the wind. Hmm. Like you're the wind, like you can be the wind beneath some, the subtitle's not quite there yet. The wind beneath. But I think 20 got your six. I think it's like, I've got your back. Something about like, get their back. But 20 got your six, got your back. I'm brainstorming. I'm trying to get there, Griffin. I'm not sure. It feels like too militaristic for our vibe. It started for World War I combat pilots. I'm pretty sure back then we were still like cool with what they were doing. We liked it. Yeah. I wouldn't use it. Back then we knew what it was about. If there was any new shit, if there was like any new slang, I don't know that I want to drop you at. But like World War I combat pilots, I don't know. Can I ask about one that I, now that we're talking about co-branding, what do you think about 20 crunchy tricks, bring back balls? I like the ball shapes better. Okay. And they used to be balls originally, and then they were fruit shapes for a really long time. And then they brought back the ball shapes, and I rejoice because it's original, but then people wanted the fruit shapes of tricks back. 20 what what tricks? 20 crunchy tricks, bring back balls. This is a gear with an attainable goal. I'm just going to ask General Mills to change from the fruit shapes. You think that's a you? I think you've, I think you've forgotten the face of your father. I think we, I'm not saying that I don't mean attainable in the sense that I can attain it. I mean, attainable in the sense that it is, it is possible. It's within the realm of possibility. Could we work like artificial flavors and colors in there too? Because I miss those a lot. Those are back. Those were gone for a while, but now they're back and they're like fully neon. Like nobody. It's like a different era. I mean, I don't have, I don't have a lot of Brandon. Once I had 20 Jiminy Glicks. Wow. You just wrote that down. You have the meter. The meter is paid. Yeah. The meter is not there for me. Yes. Sit up. I do have 22. The quicks cut the baloney and I could change that to be like this, the chocolate drink. Oh, that's yeah. For 20, 20. Get the quicks to get the kicks to the quicks. Cut the bologna, but it sounds like the chocolate bar. The chocolate milk brand just started selling bologna. You got to stop with the bologna, man. Yeah. That's maybe the worst year theme that I've ever seen written. In terms of just viability and overall quality. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. 20 laying bricks. Build back better. 20 laying bricks. Build back better. There's no way that could go wrong. 20 cocaine bricks. Uncut funny. I don't think so. Uncut Jim. Uncut Joms. I'm out. Good. 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There's the last one. Is it co-branded? It's the last one I had written down. It's not co-branded. Well, let me write Travis's. Oil slicks. What was it? Clean getaway. Clean getaway. Okay. 20 no new tricks. Old dogs. Hmm. 20 no new tricks feels. 20 no new tricks. Old dogs. Walk me through it. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. Okay. That is always said in a way that feels kind of aspirational for the dog though. Like you're challenging. This one, this one is a, this one is nice. This one is low press. We are old dogs. No new tricks. I've always thought of you can't teach an old dog new tricks as a way to excuse maybe outdated. So this is like language. Language and terminology. Finally taking it back. Agreed. 20. Can I, let's have a, yeah, let's take it. Let's have a, I got more of it. 21 new trick. Old dogs. Old dogs go to heaven. Mean dogs go to hell. 21 new trick. 21. This dog's got a bone. This dog's still got a bone to pick with you. I'm in the, guys, I feel like I'm in the jazz phase of this. I'm over here like, and you guys are still, are we at a point where you're like, this is the thing I've, are we like, are we still like picking a song to sing? Do you know what I'm saying? Oh yeah. I feel like we're still trying to find the melody. 20 treats and tricks. Nope. Halloween all year. No, I think it's good for us to go. I think it's 20 treats and tricks Halloween all year. Have you not seen the Mickey Mouse clubhouse episode where they make a wish and it's Christmas every day and then it starts to. It kind of sucks shit that it's Christmas every day. Well, that's because they repeat Chris repeats every day. I'm saying Halloween all year, just as a lifestyle, not necessarily repeating the same actions every day. No, it's not like a Groundhog Day situation. It's that they are doing different Christmas shit every day. And by the end of it, they're like, this sucks. We wish it would go back to normal. And that was the only other wish Santa Claus could grant them. And he does. And everything goes back to normal. And it turns out good. But they were really bummed out when it was Christmas every day. I know lots of people who live a Halloween. Lifestyle year round. And they seem to like that. OK, but I don't think it's for everyone. I would hate. I would hate that. I would hate that. I would. I would be so scared. Do I have to get costumes for my kids every day? Can we go trick or treat all day? We go back to the top of the list. Yeah. And strike through some of these that are not going to get it. Can we please get to that? I still don't think there's a keyboard shortcut for strike. I thought it was control. OK, is it not? Is that it? I'm like, you're about to blow my shit apart, right? Nope. Nope. OK, so we'll get rid of 2026, obviously. 20, get your kicks celebrating the America of Beauty's greatest road. All about Route 66. I, I. I think that genre music is among the worst. I think it's among the worst music ever made. I would. There's what genre? The road road trip 50s fucking boogie shit. I'm talking about the beauty of America's greatest road. And you're like, I fucking hate. I love music. OK, that's not what I said at all. I love music. He's talking. Griffin's talking about songs. You can't say 20, get your kicks all about Route 66. The road, not the song. He's saying he hates. It says right there, celebrating the beauty of America's greatest road. It's also. Not the greatest song about a road. But it also says, get your kicks on Route 66. Thank you. 20, check for ticks. No time for lime. Go ahead and cross this one off. Yeah. You guys like lime disease, huh? Yeah, I love it. Oh, sorry. When I said that, it wasn't confirming it. I was challenging you guys to say you are cool with tick-borne illness as a concept in general. I wouldn't say I'm cool with tick-borne illness. I just don't know. I think that this is definitely a good thing to remind people of, but not a life lesson. Is there anything we could do with the tick to get another season or just get bit out of them? Oh, OK. So what about 21 new ticks? pick it no pick it in one who's the new tick you got a they've had two perfect actors who's the third tick yes here we go all right fucking right off the fucking 21 new tick 21 new tick and it's gonna be john ham nope i got this he's got it watch chris that's a good start leaves a lot of options open you get a lot of room to grow oh he's waiting for us oh narrowing it down do it coward narrowing it down do it type cur type cur do it do it oh don't change it huh it's chris tucci you know 21 new tick chris tucci oh wait hold on wait guys jazz it with chris tucci this is how we got to fungalores we just said two words together that kind of hit hit right and chris tucci chris tucci chris tucci just one new 20 just the chicks chris tucci chris tucci i don't think there's anything there guys no no it was a good try though you gave it a good shot fuck tips and tricks is still grabbing okay so yeah right okay dixie chicks no just the chicks no 20 stunts and flicks do we like stunts and flicks funny flicks i still would like to keep stunts and flicks okay it seems like an area that you guys are crazy about honey sticks uh 20 under mixed some like it lumpy some love it lumpy 20 okay i'll leave it on you guys didn't say strike through 20 tips and tricks hack your life 20 20 tips and tricks hack your life is good but it's not funny it's just sort of like it's too actionable I don't know it's too good of a theme 20 under mixed some love it lumpy 20 tips and tricks actually I don't know if you can like star something or like whatever but like 20 under mixed some love it lumpy is like if we did this one if we did this one I would die on the hill of getting rid of some and just have it love it lumpy we'll see 20 tips and tricks hack your life I just would love to I don't feel like 20 tips and tricks what if it's less about hack your life and it's more about like finish the game finish the fight if we make it like Nintendo helpline complete your quest complete your quest fulfill your quest 20 tips and tricks write down the cheats cause I I forget all the cheat codes you know 20 tips and tricks we'll come back to it let's come back to it we're not at that I don't 20 skip the tricks just live your life I think no more tricks would work better like 20 no more tricks um 20 skip the tricks 20 no more tricks you have to slow down your mouth to say it no more tricks just live your life um 20 no more tricks just live your life I don't see how we'd do that one without sounding like genuinely grumpy old men yeah I'm just gonna delete it no I'm gonna strike it through we have a format here 20 bag of tricks master your magic 20 bag of donuts 20 bag of tricks master your donuts 20 bag of tricks 20 bag of tricks master your magic feels like too like thirsty yeah way too thirsty is there something with magics like 20 dark magics 20 old magics 20 dark magics what I like about bag of tricks this idea of as an actionable thing of just like have some stuff ready to go that you can pop up to be like ta da I'm not saying become a magician or something like that it's more of a celebration of multidisciplinary growth and maybe a celebration of multidisciplinary no fucking way dude I crushed that shit growth damn it I messed it up can you can you write down a new one for me it's just if you would just write down 20 20 ricks who are they where did they come from who are they where did they come from it's like a new I see it as kind of a Damon Lindelof thing where everything is normal and there's just 20 more ricks than there were yesterday 20 ricks show up and like nobody knows them yeah but they are like they seem to know their whole thing yeah write down 20 pickle ricks write down 20 pickle ricks actually fuck my shit dude 20 pickle ricks we're rich we're rich we did it 20 pickle ricks 20 pickle ricks turn off the camera Jeeves shut off camera god it's not working any of it's not working 20 pickle ricks 20 pickle ricks who's gonna sue yeah come try it come and come and claim him come and claim him okay so this year is about we're gonna put pickle ricks we're gonna put pickle ricks on merch until somebody sues us fucking try it we give up come get us come get us come get us come get us they won't fire us something has to stop us we can't get fired something will bring us down I think doing merch with 20 pickle ricks can you mark out 20 ricks who are they where did they come from yeah okay I do think it's an evocative concept though yeah 20 boudoir picks for your lover I wanna get rid of punching dicks that's like what it's like such an invitation to lawsuit city I really don't wanna no Justin it's fist city yes that's true and it's recently been renamed to lawsuit city to lawsuit city oh man what is what is it the grabbing you don't like cause there's other things you can do with a fist no one even said grabbing Griffin grabbing dicks you just said grabbing what is punching their doctor Dr. Freud no one said 20 fist and dicks 20 fist and dicks it's not like that fist city 20 fist and dicks welcome to fist city someone took a wrong turn at jug town is that right Griffin yeah jug city jug city I think jug town is where Emmett Otter lives I think Emmett Otter lives in jug city can we talk about how I've censored tits because there's four asterisks there it's sexist I know but there's four asterisks I think it's with two t's t-i-t-y-s t-i-t-y-s I assumed it was t-i-t-y-s maybe jug city showdown no t-i-t-y-s wouldn't rhyme it's definitely not that 20 stevie nicks a moonlight blessing are we getting rid of fist and dicks and jug city showdown I don't wanna get rid of a big ol' can I tell you one of my reasons why I don't wanna use it is cause I I feel uncomfortable saying it but I thought it was funny just to do once go ahead and mark it it may not even been funny to do once but I definitely don't wanna do it a million times 20 stevie nicks a moonlight blessing that's gonna seem like we're making fun of it that almost feels like we need to move it down to the the like branded here's what I wanna you think stevie nicks is gonna pay us money 20 new york nicks I wanna I wanna try something new this year we're like we don't get rid of any of the sponsored ones those are just out there these are just here if you wanna pay for them any of these companies vix we're open to doing a different 20 new york nicks race to the pennant 20 sorry wait 20 new york nicks race to the pennant got it perfect I don't know if there's pennants no no no this is perfect race to the pennant pennant yeah yes I love spelling on camera 20 under bricks cobblestone ahoy you scripted over 20 crunchy mix granola gra gra yesa say yeah can you say that one more time 20 crunchy mix granola gra yesa you didn't make the no capital I think that would help or at least italicize or something something granola gra yesa okay okay now you can cut it can I try it like 20 crunchy mix gra yesa that's pretty good 20 crunchy mix cristucci now what if you get rid of now what if you cut what about this what is that feeding back out of what do you think about this 20 crunchy mix granola cristucci mmm all one word no one word exclamation point yeah that looks like it says christ uchi I put my whole christ uchi into that one christ the uchi christ the uchi on the left hand side christ the uchi on the left hand side uh 20 candlesticks if we wanted to get back to the sort of very overtly religious message 20 candlesticks 20 candlesticks christ the uchi on the um I think we can go ahead and cut 20 crunchy mix granola cristucci okay 20 under bricks cobblestone ahoy 20 crunchy mix granola there's some okay there's something I like about this and it is something that I think I'm interested in as a concept for actionable advice to people which is like we've all spent so much time digging around in the dirt yeah in minecraft mmhmm that it makes me think why but if I have to plant a plant outside yeah no way why am I like that when I could get a shovel and I could see what's happening down there and I think there's something cool it's like maybe this is the year where you see what's happening down there mmm but you don't have a theme you like you thematically you like that idea 20 under bricks cobblestone ahoy maybe it's not cobblestone maybe it's hidden past hidden paths dig up the past dig up the paths dig up the paths paths to the past paths up the you don't want it to be hard to say as possible yeah there we go dig up the pasts 20 under bricks 21 that's good 20 under bricks dig up the paths I mean I'm into it it may just be because I'm pushing 40 but dig up the paths that'd be an interesting project for the year yeah yeah paths dig up the paths what about 20 chucking bricks smash it I don't want anybody I don't want more people to be chucking bricks then 20 laying bricks strong foundations I said 20 laying bricks build back better and Justin made fun of me well build back better sucks whoa it almost worked out it almost worked but strong foundations 20 robin thick blurred lines no he's right second chances put him in the blurred lines second chances okay put it no that goes in the co-branded pile if robin thick get at us you could you could pay us for blurred lines second chances no that's allen thick that's allen thick we could do both you can do 20 allen thick growing pains I really didn't do that on purpose - I know, but they're basically best friends. - Well, one of them. is past. What's the other guy's name? Robin Thicke. Robin Thicke. No. They're both Thicke singular. Second chances? Yeah. No. Blurred lines, second chances. Ah, yeah. I'm not sure I want to afford him a second chance. It should be Thicke. Maybe third chances, too. It would be sick. It would be awesome if it was Pearl. Well, third lines. Blurred lines, third chances. Third lines. Third lines. That's cool. He sounds like he's on a hockey team at that point. I'd love to get hockey in there. Is there something with Thicke? We haven't done Thicke. Thicke. Thicke. 20 hockey sticks. You can do better than that. 20 hockey sticks. Don't cuss. But it's like L. Oh, like double. 20 hockey sticks. 20 hockey sticks. That's like. Are there others? It could be 20 hockey sticks. And it's like 20 L's in a row. Oh. The same function that it fills when you say it to not cuss in front of a child. You could say. 20 wizard sticks. The power of the staff. 20 wizard sticks. Power of the staff. Power of the. 20 wizard sticks. 20 wizard sticks. Learn the game or die. Fuck, yeah. Or die. Haven't we. Was Fungalore the only sort of magical wizardly one? Have we done a wizardly one before? No. Wizard sticks is cool. I like. Yeah, wizard sticks kind of rules. Now, where does that part come from? Why is it learn the game or die? Because I think wizard sticks is like. When you said wizard sticks, I imagined like there was a ring the wizard had in his tower, and the only way he would give it to you is if you played him at wizard sticks. Oh, it's a challenge. You beat me at one game of wizard sticks, and you can have the duplon ruby. Can we spell it like a cool way? 20 wizard sticks. Oh, yeah. Well, maybe not three X's. Hmm. Maybe a Z at the end. Sticks. But that. It's not called 20-20-6-Z. Oh, that's true. 20 wizard sticks. Learn the game or die is cool. Alright. That's. You use die in wizard sticks. That's why it also. It works two ways. 20 funky sticks out to the boneyard is cool. 20-20-6-7 is a check I am not willing to cash. Oh, man. This was one we were all pretty excited about. Yeah, I feel like maybe the subtitle is a placeholder on that one. Yeah, just see what sticks. Well, we could leave it as a placeholder all year to see what sticks. That's not bad, actually. Conceptually. 20 see what sticks. No, we can't. I don't want to do this all year. I know. That's very fair. He's so tired. I want to cut 20 pumped up kicks foster your people. Yeah. Unless you want to move it down to the. Nah, that song sucks. Okay. 20 fiddle sticks for goveness with them. That one should get an asterisk. I like that one. Fiddle sticks is just. That word it feels so powerful and it's under you. I never say fiddle sticks. And so it feels like we have the opportunity to own something truly special. 20 fiddle sticks. It's all spilled milk. Yeah. Oh. For goveness with them. Let's keep moving because I would like to cut. But highlight that one. Highlight that one. It's a good one. 20 got your six. I want to try to. See if there's anything there? No. What bothers me about it is the got your six thing has this vibe to me of like. SWAT dude. Yeah, it's like not SWAT dudes, but dudes who like want like. Militaristic energy as like a way to like pump themselves up. The dudes at the airsoft yard who are like super intense, like super duper intense about everything. If that's what it feels like, a little bit intense to me. Yeah. I got you. I liked. I think I liked all that like sort of sky. Sure. A plane cuts a line across this blue cerulean expanse. A single cloud drifts by and we're on the ground watching with our little straw hats and suspenders. Yeah, but got your six is still in there. Yeah. Now if you did something about cool plane tricks. 20 cool plane tricks. We really. 20 funky licks. Make it talk. Ooh. Make what? Make the guitar talk? The guitar. In a Pizzatero way? 20 funky licks. Make it talk. You know? No, not like a. Yeah. Okay, so 20 funky licks. Make it talk. Talk. Take it for a walk? Make it talk. Make it talk. Yeah. I think that's better than 20 funky sticks out to the boneyard. Although. Do you really? Dude, 20 funky sticks out to the boneyard should go into co-branded opportunities. I would love to work with sticks on this. Oh my god, are you kidding? Yes. This is a good one. Tommy. Tommy, if you're watching. Tommy Shaw. What about something about snicks? You're adding. You're right. This is fine if you don't think it's there. I just. I think it's there. I feel really good right now. There's a few that I like. I'm pretty stoked about. 20 oil slicks. I want to cut no new tricks. You want to cut no new tricks? Can I cut oil slicks? Yeah. Okay, 20 no new tricks, old dogs. Tricks just seems like we're missing a trick by not using it. It's finding. It's finding the right context, though. Because I feel the same way about, like, mix and tricks. Magics? I feel like just the meter is not right. Yeah. Magic tricks. But I don't want to encourage people to learn magic. Alright, I want to say. Useful magic tricks. I want to say. I want to say that 20 wizard sticks feels like one that we like that no one would. You know, doesn't it feel like we would. We could talk ourselves into getting pretty excited about the idea of wizard sticks. Can I say. For sure, dude. I feel like 20. I think we. We would be like. We'd have a plan to sell them. We earned 20 fungalore. If we did 20 wizard sticks, learn the game or die, it's gonna feel like to everyone else, we're just chasing the high of fungalore. Like, it feels like we're just trying to capture that again, and it has to be authentic. Does it feel better if it's 20 wizard tricks? I don't think a wizard would do tricks. I feel like this is too much of an overlap between the. I don't want the nerds that listen to Taz to start listening to my brother, my brother and me, because they think it's gonna be about wizards and elves and all that garbage. Now, I do want to go back to. You didn't put it on the list, Grimoire. 20 hit the bricks? You didn't include 20 hit the bricks. You're right. Well, it's because my motivation for it was. Yeah. It's just. You can't do hit the bricks and hit the road. Hit the bricks, hit the road. Hit the gas, hit the bricks, hit the road. Hit the brakes. Hit the gas. Hit the gas, the road, and the brakes. Jack it off, Jack. Hit the road. Jack off, Jack. No. Head to Fist City, Jugtown. Hit the bricks, Jugtown. Punch the jugs, big boy. Hey, Jugtown, hit the bricks. This is a Cobra, bar. Are you trying to go to Fist City? All right. No. You don't look like you're dressed for Fist City, but you found yourself in Jugtown, a Cobra bar. 20 hit the bricks, hit the road is out. 20 hit the bricks. Cobra's only Jugtown. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Get lost. There we go. Now you found it. Now it's all fine. Now you can strike through it with confidence. That's. Okay, 20 wizard sticks, learn the game or die, should be cut now before I regret it. Yeah, we're going to come back to it too hard. Yeah. 20 funky licks, make it talk. Had to cut it in secret before we could pay attention. It's too on the nose, I think. Make it talk is just too. Make it talk. Too aggressive. And then 20 hit the bricks, get lost, Cobra's only Jugtown. Go back to. Is this all. Can you scroll? Is there more above the scroll? Yeah. I think. Yeah. Okay. 20 stunts and flicks. Well, there's a lot cut out here. Hooray for Hollywood. I'm going to make these smaller. Okay. What about 20 classic flicks? I don't give a shit about classic movies. Yeah. Okay. Who's going to listen to us about that? Indie flicks. 20 indie flicks. Okay. I'm trying. 20 pickle ricks, a celebration of multidisciplinary growth. Because we used to not do Rick and Morty and now we do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're saying a mix and match. We take 20 bag of tricks out and we put it a celebration of multidisciplinary growth. Well, what I love is 20 pickle ricks. Any of these subtitles would truly work. Forgoverness within. Yeah. 20 under bricks, dig up the pasts. I want tips and tricks cut because tips and tricks is. It is an idiom. like I don't want to like It's easy. Boost us. Yes. It's an easy idiom. Stunts and flicks, honey sticks, under mix. Like that's, we're in the neighborhood. Yeah, those are things we're making. 20 bag of chips. I want to get rid of 20 honey sticks. I don't think it's going to win and I don't think you guys do either. No. It's 20 We're more than halfway through this decade. Let's go back to it. I think we can do one honey one at some point. I don't know that we want to burn it on a year where there's this much other. Knowing how rough 2025 was, I would have gone for honey stuff. Let's come back to it. Yeah, we can come back to it. Alright, we'll come back to it. 20 under mix. Love it lump. I'm getting rid of some. I hate seeing it there. It's ruining it. 20 under mix. Love it lumpy. Love it lumpy. I don't know. I think some love it lumpy is Love it lumpy There's almost such a weird no connotation to it that my brain applies a dirty connotation. Okay. Yeah. Lumpy, lovin' would be better. Lumpy, lovin'. Lumpy, lovin's bad. Don't ruin it. 20 under mix. Love it lumpy. Okay. 20 bag of tricks. I don't like 20 bag of tricks. For the same reason that I don't like tips and tricks, it just feels like but do leave 20 pickle ricks. A celebration of. That's not going to win, but there's something there. Yeah. And I'm not ready to. I do also kind of like 20 pickle ricks. Come and claim them. Because that implies we have 20 pickle ricks. But that's just. God, why do I keep doing that? That's just for us. The audience can't use that at all. I don't want. What are we telling them to do? To see what happens. See what sticks feels very good to me. It feels like it's a little riskier. Right? Because it's a year about. We're going to try things, right? And the things might not work. We're going to see what sticks. And everybody's going to do that, you know? Is that we're not as confident inherently because we got to see what sticks. Can you shrink those other struck through ones? And also, we might it might be time I think we've chewed on it for a long time, but it might be time to say goodbye to Get Lost Cobra's Only Jug Town. Dude, can I tell you something? The rate at which we are going through those, I'm already bored of the joke I laughed at five minutes ago. I am fully ready to get rid of 20 Hit the Bricks Get Lost Cobra's Only Jug Town. Yeah, I mean. It's played, dude. Yeah. God damn it. We've got some really good ones here. Can we return to 20 Under Bricks, dig up the pasts? I think I like Under Bricks. Yeah, Under Bricks. Is there something about catacombs? Oh, dig up the bones. Bones below roads. Roads above bones. Roads above bones. Cask of Amontillado. 20 Under Bricks. Bury your friends. Stones above bones. Stones above bones. What about like hidden messages? Like it's a dead drop. You know like, oh, I would hide the message under a brick and you would know which brick to check to get the message. 20 Under Bricks. 20 Under Bricks. There's, I mean, there could be anything under there. The fact that there's not currently, though, makes me feel like there just isn't. What do you mean? Layers of the past. I feel like it would have come to us. Yeah, 20 Under Bricks. Under Bricks is just not it. Under Bricks is just not powerful. It's just not powerful enough. I'm really sorry. I do like it. I like I wouldn't mind having a sort of Goonies year. Yeah. Where it's like, you know, 20 Jump the Cricks at Boys Wilderness. Adventure, but good. 20 Jump the Cricks at Boys Wilderness. You said that one already. Yeah, you said that one already. It's getting better though. So that leaves us with six. Why did it have to be gendered? I think that's what killed it. Yeah, maybe. Is there something about Slice Hicks we can put in there? You know, I thought about trying to get Slice Hicks. 20 Cool Slice Hicks. 20 Cool Slice Hicks. Dude, 20 Autumn Hicks. Yeah, 20 Autumn Hicks. 20 Autumn Hicks. Maybe if we went with Matthew, but you didn't go back. Yeah. Matthew Hicks. But Autumn and 20 is like. Yeah. They're kissing cousins. The 20 stunts and flicks. Hooray for Hollywood isn't specific enough to the energy that is trying to be conveyed. If it is stunts and flicks, it ain't Hooray for Hollywood also. No. It needs something better at the back end. It needs a fatter ass. Yes. Well said, sir. Well said. Welcome to ass sitting. How's this for a fat ass? You want fat asses? We got you. Justin, here's your fat ass. What about 20 butts and flicks? Time to return to the theater. It's safe to return. Oh, I thought it was a celebration of seeing butts in movies. No, no, no. This is saying get your butts in the theaters back to see. I don't want to tell people to do that. I don't want to tell them that. No, I don't either. And butts and flicks. Now, butts and flicks, if you want to put that as a Mr. Skin thing, that that could maybe be a cross promotional thing. I don't know. I bet they have a jurist. I bet they have. 20 brown food flicks. I bet they got a tab. If you called Mr. Skin and they were like, oh my gosh, the videos of butts too. God, that's good. We were only doing boobs the whole time. Crap. Shoot, dude. Shoot. We got to go. We returned all those movies. We got to watch all those GD movies again. 20, 20 stunts and flicks. Is there a general celebration of Hollywood that can replace stunts? Like there. I like it. I like stunts. I like stunts. I like stunt people. I love the craft. I love the work. I think it's all cool. I don't think I can do a year of it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm 20. Yeah. Yeah. That's 20 honey sticks. All right. Can I just say, can I set a timer on my phone and we for when it's like it's once it's done, if we don't have a better name, it's definitely 20 honey sticks. No, no. I say like you're saying we get if it's not 20 honey sticks, we just saying let's let's see through 20 like 20 honey sticks is the one that we keep coming back to. Yeah. It's the one that I think has those legs and I can see it being very like we keep circling back to 20 honey sticks back in business. Griffin, how strongly do you feel about it? Now you've just written Tommy Buddy makes is that just to kind of bring your pals together? Is that a bad? Is that a bad one that you're trying to get out of your system? No, it's just if we're if we can do that. Okay, I'm ready to I'm ready to let it go here. Okay. Yeah, we can cut 20 honey sticks. I just don't think honey sticks and listen, I don't actually want to hear you talk about it anymore, but you can cut it. 20 under mix. Love it. Lumpy is to me. Tell me what it is. Love it. Lumpy is one of the like to me. It's like as a baker, it speaks to me directly. Hey, love it. Lumpy. You didn't. I mean, like you don't want to over mix. You didn't mix it enough, but some love it. Lumpy. That's true. That's why I thought some was better. That's why I was reading to me is 20 under mix. You know, something a little bit lumpy. Yeah. No, there's something about it that's saying like you fucked up, but it's cool because some people like that. Maybe we do a little swap room here. We do 20 fiddle sticks. Love it. Lumpy. We're going to have to explain that to pretty much everyone that we talked to about it. Yeah, the explaining has not loomed large enough in my head over the past couple years, and I am trying to like bring that. I'm looking at forgiveness now with that in mind in a way that I wasn't before. Do you want to say forgiveness? I mean, I'm going to continue to think it's funny, but you guys may not. And that's the important thing because you guys have to say it to 20 fiddle sticks. You need to cut. Tell me, buddy. Let's bring your house together because we already cut the other one. Happy excellence. Happy or 20 fiddle sticks. Fate had other plans. 20 fiddle sticks. Unexpected befriending failure. 20 fiddle sticks. Forgiveness. Embracing imperfection. 20 fiddle sticks failing forward. There's a I don't even know if I like the alliteration there, but that kind of also a little bit embraces 20. See what sticks 20 fiddle sticks fail for fun. Fail for fun. Fun fail. Just feel for fun. All aboard the fail boat. 20 fiddle sticks. Epic fail. 20 fiddle sticks. Epic fail. No. See, you took it from you took it from how we're there. And then you're like, and here's a dumb one. If we called it 20 pickle ricks, a celebration of multidisciplinary growth, I think legally, we're fine. I think legally it's fine. But that sounds, can I say as funny as it is now, it sounds like those two things are going to be related and that we are saying that Rick Richard human or pickle form is a master of multidisciplinary. I don't know that man from Adam's off ox. I've not watched the program. I don't know that I want to say he's a fucking jack of all trades. I simply don't know. Okay. Sit up. Now I'll say maybe, maybe pickle Rick's star has fallen a little bit. That's fine. Yeah, man. He doesn't have the, you know what? Go ahead. That's fine. If you want to cut 20 pickle ricks. I don't want to cut 20 people. I know. I know, but maybe put it. Can I suggest, can I just say this is maybe that's a brand. It's a co-branding opportunity. Okay. They want to get at us. Yeah. Get at us. These, these, these are good. I would like us. I'm just going to get rid of the route. Do you think if we started selling a pickle Rick shirt, they would start with a cease and desist. I don't think we would get the courtesy of a season. We can tastefully be like, - Fair enough. - I think one of us-- Because I think that would imply, a cease and desist would imply that on their end, they thought we didn't know what we were doing was wrong. That's true, that's true. They seem to be so confused about the ownership of the curriculum. Especially if we put this whole thing out. I thought if I laughed at him a hundred times, he becomes mine, like some sort of wish. This actually isn't premeditated, because Justin didn't write down his shit before we came in. I said it, but I also didn't write it down before him. Then you can't, you'll never be able to prove that. Now, I would like to, for us to just kind of jazz out, see what sticks and fiddlesticks. Because those are the two that I'm circling back to, and I think with the- They're certainly the most cogent ideas. Between those two, I do like the concept of throwing spaghetti at the wall. I worry the subtitle's not going to be as strong there, and I worry we're giving up on fiddlesticks, guys. Fiddlesticks. Fiddlesticks is so good to say. It's- It just feels like we have to bring it the fuck home on the subtitle. Mm-hmm. Which is rare for us, that we have like the first part so long. Because fiddlesticks is like, there's nothing- Oh, man. This is the part that I didn't want us to be recording for, because there is a part where you have to speak honestly about how you feel. Yeah. And you have to be earnest. Yeah. And that requires you to be open. I think that 20 fiddlesticks- The problem with fiddlesticks is that it's not- It's inherently funny. So whatever the- Because it's like, it fits well. Fiddlesticks is an expression. You're right. It's like, it's not inherently funny. And that's what bothers me about it, is that- This is empty, too. I know. I'm running out of beverage, but there's no way we're opening that. No, no, no, no, no. It's so- We don't just hear that. It is so hot in here. It is so hot. I would die to pee. It's been 81 minutes. Is there a subtitle strong enough to redeem fiddlesticks as a- This is- I agree. That's why I like- Oh, right. Okay. That's why- 20 fiddlesticks, a battle with the devil. Like you're saying, you're actually- We are a podcast, like, for God's sake. No, but I'm saying, like, a devil went down to Georgia- No, no, no. As a fiddle player. But you're not going to be able to do much with that, I don't think. 20- That's why I liked Forgoveness Within was such a big swing. It's like cute. It's like kind of cute. Can we turn it where it doesn't have to be bust up funny and instead can be kind of cute? I thought 20 fiddlesticks. 20 fiddlesticks. 20 fiddlesticks. Aw, shucks. Aw, shucks. We're just little guys. Aw, shucks, boss. Aw, shucks. Aw, shit. Aw, shit, boss. Fuck. 20 fiddlesticks. We fucked up? Fucked up. 20 fiddlesticks. Don fucked up. No, we haven't. Everyone else did. 20 fiddlesticks. How about 20- 20 fiddlesticks. You fucked up. 20- 20 fiddlesticks. Apologize. What do you think about 20 under mix, love it lumpy? I don't- I didn't like the way you just- Can you say it in a different way? No, no, no. Say it a different way. I- Because some is better. 20 under mix, some love it lumpy, or 20 fiddlesticks for goveness within, 20 see-what-sticks- Spaghetti at the wall. 20 see-what-sticks, spaghetti at the wall is too conventional. 20 see-what-stick. 20 fiddlesticks. Both of those. 20 fiddlesticks. 20 fiddlesticks feel like an express- like, see-what-sticks is an expression of a mood or idea. Yeah. Like, see-what-sticks, that makes sense, right? If you're like- 20 see-what-sticks. 20 see-what-sticks. I do like- I also really, really like it as a projectile of wisdom that we can- Right. Yeah, see-what-sticks. Just try it. But see-what-sticks is already so idiomatic. Yeah. Right? We're not building something else on the house of see-what-sticks. That is an idiom that exists. We're not inventing a new idea here. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, what about- 20 fiddlesticks is the same way, right? We are- fiddlesticks is like, it makes sense, but we gotta come up with an abstract sometimes. Yeah. 20 tickle bits. 20 shit. See, I was gonna say 20 under-chicks and be done with it, but it was 20 under-chicks. Aw, yeah, man. That's what it was. Cool, dude. Oh, so you read it already. It was, aw, yeah, man. Cool, dude. Yeah, I liked it. I liked it a lot. Under-20-chicks. Aw, yeah, man. Cool, dude. That's what it was gonna be. I don't think we should do that one. I wrote it down. You guys accused me of not writing it down. I wrote it down. 20. 20. 20 fiddlesticks. You- you fucked up. You fucked up. 20 fiddlesticks. 20 fiddlesticks. 20 see-with-sticks. 20 wizard-sticks. 20 wizard-sticks. We should have bring, we should make the other one. This is the, this is, can I be honest? This is my least favorite part of the episode where we have to go back through the fucking, we have to dig around in the, in the trash. The Snickle Fritz. Oh, 20 Snickle Fritz. 20 Snickle Fritz is cool. No, it's not. 20 Snickle Fritz, bottom of the barrel. I don't want it. I don't want to explain the spelling every friggin' time. No, that word is enough in the public consciousness that I think it would be fine. I think people could figure out Snickle Fritz. 20 on the Fritz. 20 on the Ritz. 20 on the. Okay, are we allowing t's and p's? Are we allowing t's and p's? Because if so, we could be here for another hour. Our significant others will be upset. 20 on the Ritz. 20 on the Ritz. 20 on the Ritz. We'll be upset if we open up t's and p's. No, we can't. We'll be in here for another 120 minutes. We can't. It's X. X is the sound. It's gotta be X. 20 got the X. 20 got. It's too negative. You paused it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 20 nicks the X. Give. Just because they do something you think is weird, maybe he's a great guy. That's cool. That's a really cool energy. There you go, man. Ah! Ah! I think I just gave a lot of people the ick with that. But this is why I need this message to really stick. I'm seeing what sticks right now. I'm seeing what sticks. 20 make it stick. 20 make it stick. 20 make it stick. 20 make it stick. Throw it harder. Wait! Guys, there's something cool there. 20 make. This idea of throwing the spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks. If it doesn't stick, throw it. 20 make it stick. Throw it. 20 make it stick. Throw it harder. Toss it hard. Throw it harder. Throw it hard. Okay, we're so close. I don't think the subtitle should be a command. I think it should be a. Something like 20 make it stick. Throw it again. Toss. No, that's a command. Something like throwing hot. Throwing fast. Chucking fast. 20 make it stick. Bring the cheddar. Bring the heat. Bring the. 20 make it stick. Bring the. Bring. Toss the. Toss the sauce. Toss the sauce. Toss the sauce. 20 make it stick. Toss the sauce. Because if you toss the sauce with the noodles, it's definitely going to stick. 20 make it. Make it. I'm just gonna. I feel like we're so close with make it stick feels so good to me. I like it. Because that's not anything. But it also suggests that it's not fucked up. You didn't try hard enough. 20 make it stick. Do the impostable. No. I'm just gonna be honest though. There was like. Yeah, that's what I had. That's what I had. There was hang time on that one. Yeah, that's why I said no so fast. Anything's possible. Anything's. No, 20. 20 make it stick. Throw it. Throw it harder. Toss it. Toss it. I don't want to let go of anything's possible. You gotta. You got to though. You're being out overruled. But get it. Dude, not a pun. I don't think a pun is going to be strong. It's gotta. Make it stick. Pitch. Pitch. Throw. Toss. Yeet. Bring the heat. Bring the. Chuck the. Chuck the cheddar. Chuck the cheddar. 20 make it stick. Toss the sauce. You can always throw harder. Toss. Toss that sauce. Low and slow. 20. No, it's gotta be fast and hard. And do it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 20 make it stick. Do it again. 20 make it stick. Try, try again. Try, try again. 20 make it stick. The spaghetti's gone dry. 20 make it stick. Try a different wall. This is a good. 20 make it. 20 make it stick. Maybe do the ceiling. This time. 20 make it stick. More noodles. Find another wall. More noodles. Newer wall. Stickier wall. Wider noodles. Wider noodles. Syrup noodles. Udon. 20 make it stick. Doesn't even sound like 2026. Justin. We're not doing this. I. It's a million degrees in here. 20 make it stick. This is cool. You know why I like this one so much? Why? It's because it's what we're doing right the fuck now. Why I like this so much is because it's what we're doing right the fuck now. 20 make it stick. Make it stick. Don't. On the rebound. Nope. 20 make it stick. 20 make it stick. Find your angle. 20 make it stick. Squoosh it on there. 20 make it stick. Squoosh it on there. Squoosh it on. Squoosh one on. Brute force the funny. Brute force it. Squoosh it out. 20 make it stick. Squoosh it on. Squoosh it on. Glue it on. Squoosh it on. 20 make it stick. Glue it on. Glue it on, baby. Set yourself free. Accept no limits. Glue the limits. 20 make it stick. Spaghetti to the limit. Accept no failure. 20 make it stick except no failure. And it's like, no. I know that didn't go the way that I wanted it to. We can have 20 make it stick except no failure and 20 underbigs love it lumpy. And then it's kind of like whatever your mood that day. It's maybe because you under mixed it is why it's not sticking. 20 make it stick. Good enough. Good enough for now. 20 make it stick. Good enough for now. for now 20 make it stick good enough for now is two different ideas yeah it 20 make it stick you're right 20 make it stick stop giving up stop giving up on everything throw it again throw it again maybe it's humid in here throw it again 20 make it stick throw it one more one more shot the reason i like okay the reason i like throw it again is that it underlines the make it stick so make it stick you're not exactly what it sure it means and then you say throw it again and then it's like we're throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks you've closed the idea the first time 20 make it stick you're right we're going too far away from throw it again 20 make it stick throw it again is there another word for throw that we could chuck it i tell you the only part i don't like is the word throw and the word again pitch it uh so you like it okay yeah okay one more top one more toss one more chuck one more one more pitch a little extra cheddar bring the cheddar throw it again 20 full count um full send fastball give them the give them a 20 make it stick fastball corner fastball special fastball all he knows fastball for the big boy no that's it no this is cool what i like is like the big boys the big boys the big boys watching he's in the hospital and he's like telling talking to you before the game like you make it stick for me yeah uh griffin we wanted you to check back in with 20 honey sticks back in business trav you think you got the sense too okay because honey is sticky can i just make the same 20 honey sticks because it would help it do you see what do you see what you did can i i'll see here's what i will say you the same person who is clucking his tongue at 20 honey sticks is the same man that just wrote 20 make it stick fastball for the big boy so i don't know oh what was that sound you just made with your body when you said it out loud what was the emotion you what was the emotion you felt when you said that out loud just now tell me laughter and what was the emotion we were also talking about like throw it again to stick it to the wall and you've somehow created a narrative that there was a boy in the hospital guys i didn't ask for a home run he asked for a picture to throw but the big boy can be inside you that's what i'm saying the big boy is in your heart and don't disappoint yourself 20 make it stick a heater for the big boy is pretty good 20 make it stick a heater for the big boy 20 make it stick a heater for the big boy is pretty good guys i just got a low battery alert on my laptop can it be 20 make it stick a heater oh fuck oh man that's really good okay so the name of oh shit dude 20 26 uh it's 20 20 make it stick a heater for the big boy um we got we'll edit in the other stuff later right i yeah man i'm i'm dripping sweat my brother my brother be kiss your dad square on the lips it's better it's better with you maximum fun a worker-owned network of artist-owned shows supported directly by you

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Justin and Travis brainstorm a list of potential 2026 year themes, emphasizing creativity, humor, and personal connection.
  2. The group debates themes like "Tummy Buddy Life," "20 Under Mix, Love It Lumpy," and "20 Tips and Tricks," highlighting their evolving humor and vulnerability.
  3. Several themes are rejected or struck through due to perceived inappropriateness, controversy, or lack of originality, such as "Fist City," "Honey Sticks," and "Check for Ticks."
  4. A strong focus is placed on co-branded ideas, including partnerships with products like Smalls (cat food) and ZocDoc (health), blending entertainment with real-world relevance.
  5. The process reveals deep personal reflections, with the brothers sharing life experiences, fears, and moments of courage to emphasize authenticity.
  6. A recurring theme of transparency emerges—admitting they didn’t pre-plan the themes, making the process more organic and relatable.
  7. The discussion shifts toward community and collective decision-making, with the idea of a populist vote to choose the theme instead of relying on tradition.
  8. Ultimately, they settle on a compromise, acknowledging that some themes are too controversial, while keeping the spirit of playful experimentation alive.

Summary:

Justin and Travis engage in a humorous, reflective, and deeply personal brainstorming session to determine the 2026 theme for their annual podcast. " Many themes are rejected due to their potential for offense, lack of coherence, or being too derivative. The brothers emphasize transparency, admitting they didn’t pre-plan the ideas, which adds authenticity to the process.

A key theme of the discussion is community and shared ownership, suggesting a shift from top-down decisions to a populist vote for the final theme. They also integrate real-life experiences and sponsorships, such as promoting Smalls for cat care and ZocDoc for health, blending entertainment with practical value. Ultimately, while no single theme is finalized, the episode reflects their commitment to authenticity, humor, and the value of collective input.

The tone balances self-deprecation, genuine emotion, and lighthearted satire, reinforcing the show’s unique blend of personal storytelling and playful chaos.

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The official theme for 2026 is not yet finalized, but the brothers are considering options like '20 under bricks, dig up the paths' and '20 see what sticks, throw it all at the wall'.

They decided to shift from a traditional, top-down approach to a populist vote, reflecting their belief that the system used to pick themes has failed and needs rethinking.

It emerged as a playful, action-oriented theme inspired by digging and uncovering the past, with the brothers seeing it as a meaningful and accessible concept for the year.

These themes were rejected due to their perceived lack of originality or relevance, with the brothers noting that some were too repetitive or not aligned with their current creative direction.

This theme is framed as a challenge-based, game-like concept where success requires skill and effort, symbolizing personal growth and the idea of learning through struggle.

Yes, themes like '20 crunchy mix' and '20 fiddle sticks' were considered for co-branding with products, though the brothers ultimately opted to avoid such partnerships to preserve creative integrity.

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