Max Strus, Training Camp Updates, The Dodgers Situation Gets Weirder, Mt Rushmore of Things We Could Master Overnight + Fyre Fest

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Skills you think you could master overnight. We're going to say goodbye to Max for two weeks. We have some national sports podcast. Oh, oh, what was that face, Hank? What? I was just looking at him. Well, I mean, what was the look? You looked at him. What? I'm ready to get away from him. Okay, all right, we'll get into all of it. We got Fyre Fest. He's getting married again. It's a great. You can get another wedding. It's a great Friday show for you. It's all brought to you by Twisted Tea. Well, it's officially the dog days of summer and Twisted Tea is our go-to for cooling down when it's heating up. When it's hot, you know I'm reaching for something ice cold. Twisted Tea is the perfect drink for lake days, beach days. Backyard grilling and all the good stuff summer has to offer. Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard ice tea made with real brewed tea and 5% alcohol. Full of flavor and very refreshing. Goes down smooth. There is no carbonation, which makes it easy to drink all day long. 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Pimped the hell out of it. Was doing the Vince Carter. It's over. Rounding the bases. Absolute aura farming from that kid from New Jersey. All right, that's how you mess this up. He's no Big Al. Big Al may be the best player in the history of the Little League World Series. I'll say something. I'll start with this. It's bullshit that Labor Day is September 7th this year. It is a bit late. It's really fucking me up. I feel like we should be. I feel like we should have college football. Like, not. Week zero, but actual week one should be next weekend. And we're still two weeks away. Actual week one next weekend would be great. It is a very. It's a super late Labor Day. I don't know about where you guys come from, but where I come from, they were not allowed to open schools until after Labor Day. My kids are going back to school Monday. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. Summer's over in my head. So where's the football? Some places start in August, but you were not. Because of the theme parks in Virginia, you were not allowed to open schools before Labor Day weekend. So it should be. Yeah. So I'm wrestling with that where it's like summer feels over, but we still have golf to do. We still have other things to do. Hey, Max still has two weeks of vacation, which will go around. That was the lead of the show. Max, we're saying goodbye to Max. Well, we did a very. It's a very mean thing at Barstool Sports. I think you technically have unlimited vacation days. Yep. That always means you know what that means. Can't take any. Can't take it. There's some training camp stuff we can talk about. Oh, okay. Let's talk training camp. There was the Patriots Eagles. Let's call this around the league. Around the league. Around the league. All right. Jalen Hurts is throwing like 25 interceptions roughly. How many? And A.J. Brown has scored. Wait, wait, wait. Walk back. What does that mean? 25 roughly. Roughly 25. By my estimation. Okay. By my calculation. Total of like every training camp practice? No, just in the last two days. I was told in training camp you want to throw interceptions. But not 25. No, no, no. You can't have it both ways. No, no, no. I'm just reporting. Whoa, whoa. Yes, you can. We are very clear. That's a good thing, then. Yeah, it's good. Agreed. According to this podcast, it's good to throw interceptions. Offside. There's a flag on the play. Wrong, Max. Listen, no training camp interceptions. That's bad. 25 roughly? Roughly is a big word there. It's not really. I think it's five, six letters. Bigger than your name. It's true. Wow. Not my last name. Your name's PFT. Your name's T. Your name's T. First, middle, last. First, middle, last. Your name's not even Max. It is. We get into that with Strewson a little bit. Yeah. It's not my first name. Zach doesn't get enough credit for having his initials be his name. That's such a baller move. It is very cool, yeah. That's so cool. Shout out to my mom. Yeah. Shout out to Zach's mom. She did that. Well, knowing you and your family, she might not have known that she spelled that way. She can spell. Okay. She can spell. Scholar. So 25 interceptions in practice. Yep. And then my stats department just sent me this. So far, A.J. Brown has scored one TD in one-on-ones, three TDs in two-on-twos, one TD in 11-on-11s. All TDs have been with Quinion Mitchell in coverage. So that's just around the league. What do you guys got? Oh, so he's cooking Quinion Mitchell. Cooking. Is that true? A couple of them are up for debate. A couple of what? TDs? What are the debates of whether his feet were inbounds or not? Oh, no. Max, that's cope. All right. Let's go to our next segment. When we debate, it's. This is what I'm going to say. Embrace debate. Was it a touchdown or not? Training camp edition. Let me. I'm opting out of all training camp updates for the rest of the summer because if training camp has any indication, the Eagles are going to be bad this year. You know what? Opting out. Max, again, you have to take your headphones off for this one. This is my rule. This is my Max rule. I really hate the disrespect that Jalen Hurts is getting this preseason. Yeah, it's bullshit. I fucking hate it. It's bullshit. It's bullshit. I would much rather have everybody suck. Yeah. His dick being like, he's a great quarterback. This offense looks incredible. The fact that everybody is doubting him, I think that that's very, very bad for me as an Eagles hater. I feel like he's about to go off this season. Max, you put your headphones back on. Max, put them back on. Put them back on, Max. See, I have 25 so many interceptions. So many. Holy shit. That guy sucks. He's opting out. Yeah. Does that have anything to do with the fact that you're going on vacation for two weeks right now? Well, yeah. That'll be a lot easier to opt out. I want to opt out. It's a honeymoon. It's a honeymoon. It's a honeymoon, by the way. It's not a two-week vacation. A two-week sex vacation. Wow. Way to dunk on us, dude. Wow. So it's not really a vacation. You're just going to be having sex the whole time. I'm sorry. It's just a honeymoon. I'm sorry, Max. That doesn't count as a vacation. You're right. I'd like to opt out of training camp updates as well because every time I open up the internet, it's something else bad about my team. Well, and it's injuries. Everyone just keeps getting injuries. The Texans lost their Jaden Higgins for an ACL. Yeah. That's, they have no, they just, every year they're like, hey, what if we just don't have receivers and the ones we do have will get hurt? He was going to be their second receiver. It sucks. Training camp, that's my, that goes back to my first point is Labor Day is too late. Football should already have started. Just get us there. And I want, like in the, in the games this weekend, I want the commanders to play like no starters whatsoever. But then Dan Quinn's like, we got to get ready for competition. We're going to be playing a lot of starters this weekend. It's things are so bad in DC that there was speculation that a running back, Rashad, white that we got from Tampa in the office might have hurt his foot doing an ice bucket challenge. I saw that where like the whole team was doing the ice bucket, bucket challenge for, for Chris Johnson. Great cause. And I encourage people to donate for ALS research, but he did the ice bucket challenge after practice with a bunch of teammates. He got up and tried to run away after he got iced and on his first step, his foot landed awkwardly and he hasn't practiced since then. I'm told he might be practicing today, which would be great. So maybe he's not actually hurt, but you know, things are bad. Bad for your team when, when they're injuring themselves, potentially doing charity challenges. Yeah. And Zach brought up a great point last night. Zach, Zach was like, well, how do you, how do you recover from an injury that was caused by ice? Like that might be traumatic for him now. That might be a trigger. I think it's more ice to put ice, but he is, he's not going to want to see that. He's not going to want to feel it. Yeah. He doesn't, he's scared of ice now. He's got to work that out with therapist and a cold tub probably. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Um, we also, uh, I'm trying to think of what other stories we have. Oh, Hank. is a piece of shit and has ruined the NFL. that's true that's a good story yeah that's a that's our second down Hank is a piece of shit and he's ruined the NFL Roger Goodell has said that he is uh fully planning on having a uh team permanently abroad then Florio this was a combo a rare combo Hank and Florio tag team match because Hank's been just begging Roger Goodell to to create an international uh team but then Florio said that it's going to be a like in the future it's gonna be a 40 team league and there's going to be an eastern and western conference and the eastern conference will have uh London I think it was London maybe Spain and Germany like European teams and the western conference teams will be in Australia Japan Malaysia uh it pretty much is just everyone's nightmare and you fucked us all that's some elite fan fiction from Florio okay well you he's the goat you started that I gotta find I gotta find the Malaysia I'd like to go ahead and it was incredible I'd like to uh fade the Malaysia magic or whatever they're gonna be called I feel like that team's gonna suck there's just some countries that won't we'll never have successful football teams all right it was what are we supposed to do like the one thing that we have as bad as things can get in the United States we can always tweet out the Superbowls all right here it is uh and we even have a we get a great cup more recently than than Canada has a Stanley Cup I think we're going to have 40 teams playing 20 games with no preseason that's where this is headed that's from Mike Florio um I need to find these I need to find these western conferences but Hank well address it because you're a piece of shit I mean Roger Goodell is trying to grow the game get get more eyeballs on on our favorite sport all of our favorite sports uh I think it's great for for us and I think it's great for the league again like I think it's great for the league I think it's great for the league I think it's great for the league I I'm looking big picture here I'm looking at at our fans and our the potential for growth it's great you're gonna get football at all hours all all the time we love football we want all the football you gotta say that non-stop for 10 years more football the better and this is that opportunity we want good football though what if they what if they do like an NFL you know the the western conference or whatever is is the international conference the only way you just have football all the time I could see here's what maybe we could do maybe there's like an entire international division of the NFL and then the winner of that plays against I don't know like uh one of the teams that lost in the conference finals in and that's or they play against a pro bowl team I can't how about that how about that's the new pro bowl is the and the winner uh gets one year faster free agency Hank yeah I think I think more football is good I think I think more football more countries it's good for us it's good for the league not more countries more football yes all right I'm calling Fleury real quick because I gotta see if he's got Malaysia on this list this is some crazy there was one there was one thing that Goodell said wait why is Colson Loveland why is Colson Loveland trending is that good or bad it's never good unguardable no he's unguardable okay that's fucking awesome he's unguardable I'm opting into training camp you don't want to unguardable and that's from an unbiased uh Kale Williams fan club twitter handle yeah you don't want to have your your guy trending right now there's literally there's nobody guarding him it's yeah because he's unguardable bro all right there's no defense all right all right I'll just have him text me the list all right well it's because he put the that he's not even in the picture anymore he juked him out so hard he didn't even show up to practice it's a drill where there's no defense all right there is a quote from Goodell so he did this interview with a former NFL player named Marcus Kuhn and I don't know if that's any relation to John but it was an interview with him about growing the game and there was one thing that he said that at least we can take some solace in this if we're anti-internationalism I'm an isolationist when it comes to the NFL same we got plenty of make make American football great again that's what I say uh he said there are definitely international cities that could host a Super Bowl but we would like to see an NFL team in such a city first so that tells me that we're still maybe a long ways away from having hopefully an international Super Bowl I just don't want any of this Hank you ruin everything but he also said that I guess his his uh vice president of club business that's a great job title by the way uh Peter O'Reilly said that an international Super Bowl is not a front burner issue as of now okay so it's not front burner it's like in the oven it's baking it's just yeah like a long-term bake it's gonna need it's it's uh it's we're smoking a brisket yeah it's like a roast yeah well yeah but maybe that's how that's that's what they're saying but what is a front burner issue is getting an international team oh here we go he replied so it's it's like London Munich all those and then Brazil Mexico Australia Japan this guy Florio over the map loves this shit all over the map he loves this shit those are fun cities well some of them are not some of them are countries yeah fun actually they're all countries uh yeah actually yeah they all all four of them Brazil Mexico Australia Japan those would be countries fun countries you're supposed to be our foreign correspondent are you guys ready for third down I think yeah I think Hank might maybe we should send him to do some fact finding in all those countries yeah nah that'd just be a vacation yeah you don't want that you don't want to do that third and long down off sides uh this Mark Walter shit is crazy I did a little more reading yeah and explain it to me okay he basically has just been taking out loans from his own business and running like a uh not a Ponzi scheme this is all alleged obviously as well but he's this just basically been fun money where he he doesn't have this money and and everyone has spent and I I think myself included I probably have said it you can probably find a clip of me saying that like I wish I I know I said that I wish that Mark Walter was the owner of the Cubs because he would just spend money and everyone's mad that they spend money that they don't have turns out he had he's been spending money that he doesn't have and I feel like he might have to sell the Dodgers because he's got a check for like 20 billion come and do that he might not have and that's why he's like ripping off sales of his assets and then also uh Ishbia has like a margin call coming right yeah yeah that's different because Ishbia was like he might not have the money to cover yeah he's he didn't do anything nefarious in the way that what Mark Walters is being alleged for Ishbia like his his business took a downturn you know what I mean yeah like that's when he bought the Suns he had he had the financials Mark Walters if this is true and he was basically doing like white collar crime to buy championships I it I honestly think it might be worse than the Astros he should just say it was his interpreter that did it yeah that would probably be a good way for him to get out of this it would be good but I I really do think it could be work because like he it is crazy what has been the biggest problem with baseball is everyone's like the Dodgers are buying championships and then what has been the response and again I've said the response of like it's not it's not their fault that they have an owner that wants to spend money and wants to invest and win championships well now if it if we find out that all the money was spending wasn't even there yeah this is crazy so so big and I don't know about you or if anybody else here has seen this TV show but for a few years I was obsessed with the TV show American Greed okay ever watch that uh I'm familiar with it's a great show yes basically it's always like somebody that was doing some type of financial fraud whether it's like a financial services provider it's some sort of insurance agent and they developed this book of business and they end up spending all the money that they don't actually have and you know investments that come in from people that get uh they they seem like fake invoices here's how your money's doing but in reality that money's been transferred and the one hallmark of all these people is they spend a shitload of money on flashy stuff yep and things to show off their wealth almost as a cover for the fact that they don't actually have that much money correct this sounds a lot like the pattern of behavior that this guy is doing and I think where he had some money yeah he just didn't have the money that he's spending right so he's spending all this money all the players because no one's ever going to think that the guy that's spending 10 times as much money as everybody else is poor or might not have the money and he's really just getting that maybe from his self-dealing yeah so here's here's the joe pompliano uh kind of summed it up in a way I think we can understand Walter owns an asset management firm and insurance companies he uses premiums at his insurance companies to make loans to companies he owns what are you doing memes no we're we're saying nobody actually has this kind of money yeah yeah or at least very few people all right so he uses premiums at his insurance companies to make loans to companies he owns this is usually okay but you can't do it too often and you have to disclose it Walter did it a lot and didn't disclose it now he's trying to unwind deals to pay back the loans because the department of justice is investigating him the Lakers deal gets him a good chunk of the money but he likely needs another few billion by year end and he's not going to be able to pay back the loans because he's he can either raise money privately Bloomberg says he is trying to do that by offering double digit yields and using his personal stake in his asset management firm as collateral don't understand that you can never promise double digit none of those words made sense don't understand that or sell off assets to make up the difference it's tough to tell what will happen but i think every option is on the table including selling dodgers chelsea sparks pwhl and his motorsports investment across nas nascar indycar and f1 he was giving himself loans and now he's got now he's now now the check is due and he's like fuck i don't have this yes that's what i was saying when that that report came out that it was like he he disclosed like four billion or three billion worth of like self-dealing yeah and in reality it's closer to like 25 it's crazy so yeah so he's saying i can either sell people on investments and promise them double digit returns which really you can't really do for long term or you're just gonna have to sell everything this what if this guy was the unnamed investor that was thinking about buying live because what do you get the man that has everything yes he already owns the lakers and the dodgers oh i know an upstart or excuse me not an ear world-class golf league do you guys know uh that that's a good point we can connect all the dots are you going to live this weekend yeah friday fuck yeah so everyone tune in uh wherever you turn it's an end of live celebration where do you tune in uh the live app okay are you gonna paint your chest i'm not gonna paint my chest i'll be aced up okay you paint your chest that's a shrink move yeah that is that'd be a big strength yes yes you guys does this kind of shrink in the game if if live folds well i think they do it every every week with their crowds yeah all right back to mark walter though uh do you guys kind of agree with me like i i understand that the astros what they did was bad this does feel on par or maybe worse that you you essentially are just like if it's true that he did not have any of this money and he just promised all this this cash to guys and deferred money um to buy championship that's crazy that's crazy that is very bad for the league yes it's insane a hundred percent if he's if he's spending money that he ill-gotten gains to win a championship and make the league less competitive i think any any sort of goodwill that uh maybe the owners were riding on based on the dodgers buying everybody in the upcoming like cba negotiations now people if it's revealed that he is actually doing this type of bad stuff people are gonna be like fuck the owners we want to see all their books yeah and what if this was i know we've talked conspiracy theories but i've thought about even more uh and when i say thought about it i read just a little bit more a little a couple more tweet threads which they were too long like this shit is it's way over my head never understand go back to 140 characters yeah but what if what if the rest of mlb owners what if they all were in on this and the fact that they knew that he was basically playing with fun funny money and like monopoly money but they're like the ends justify the means and the fact that the dodgers keep buying these championships the public opinion will say we need a salary cap and the owners will get that salary cap yeah that's what i was just saying yeah like the public opinion swinging back yeah another way um it's yeah it could be weird it could be very this could be like extremely impactful i don't know the other owners of the dodgers and there's still some different ways that the dodgers bring in money that um that other teams don't necessarily have the option to do but this would be a major thing like their if their main owner was uh essentially committing fraud yeah to to win championships what were you gonna say zach i was just gonna say i don't think i don't know if any of the owners want them looking into this because if you're all these guys are making this much money i don't think you can be the best guy to get to that kind of heights when it comes to the numbers in the accounts i don't know if they want like a watchful eye over like hey let's dig deeper into the finances of these owners of teams yeah like no because if you get investigated i'm like get out of my pockets like stay away from us yeah they definitely don't want any sort of oversight i wouldn't think so no yeah no i have a question yes yeah wait time out time out you're still here i thought you were on your sex vacation stop saying stop saying that two minute warning i would prefer all of that to be stopped um the players could be crazy next week when we're recording the pod camp and it's like max is fucking right wait max steps in time for the two minute drill i'm bringing i'm bringing my microphone um oh whoa okay all right it's not funny that's not funny okay you know what i have nothing to say no no we want your question because i love when you guys ask questions to two guys that don't really have answers but we're going to talk about it confidently we'll make it up the players are are still going to get paid right like the money's going to come from somewhere the players are still going to get their money i don't know about that i think well he he essentially took balloon payments out on players so like where does the money come from it's just like we're going well i think if he goes bankrupt uh they'll just like strip his whole companies then people will have to get in line to see who gets paid back so then they get paid like in 100 years i don't know what happens a lot of i'm kind of making this up yeah um but some investors get paid back and the majority would not yeah you could put a lien on his house yeah like bernie got 85 million dollar house and all that shit happened to bernie madoff and say say what you want about him the man lived a high life for a long time they actually did i think end up getting a lot of those people's money yeah you can claw it back but not not everyone will be made whole yeah speaking about making holes how excited are you max for this vacation uh it's gonna be it's gonna be a good vacation we got some good lined up i bet you do all right you want to go to fourth down and then we'll do mount rushmore yeah all right put the fours up it's fourth down uh i've been named an akron uh a finalist for akron football offensive coordinator oh hank one of the cry babies so when i saw this i had my first question so yeah okay let me let me answer so i think people know last week or maybe season tickets you were put into a raffle uh and then the winner of that raffle will get to call one offensive series against robert morris for akron's first home game of the season which i think is september 14th or somewhere around there uh you get to call one series so i they then did the sale i bought 18 season tickets i'm one of the nine finalists question yes uh pft commenter part of my take sports podcast yeah why nine finalists that was my question as well there were 10 and one dropped out oh i think the chance of the 10th was me and that they said we can't have both big cat and max so let's just make it nine no i was talking to don about it completely random i think uh you are such a troll i i will get to franny lyden in a second uh max i was talking to i think it was one of those situations where the 10th person and it could have been the second person named uh they were called and they're like i don't want to be like in public i don't want that smoke yeah like i don't because like you fuck up that drive and there's gonna be people calling for your head right right it's like oh shit i don't really want this so uh that was i i had the same exact question i was like why nine he's like oh yeah there was 10 and then it went down to nine okay now i'll address hank what's true by the way i just put up the window yeah but then you also said completely random with a face that's what they said yeah i was just telling max there was a face i can't confirm there was a face i'm also a journalist here i witnessed the face yep do you deny doing a face sir yeah i said it's completely do you deny having a face no okay i rest my case so what was your question i didn't have a question i literally just said i just put up the wind horse fingers no people are obviously saying it's rigged uh i listen i asked the first thing i said to dom when he told me that i was one of the 10 finalists now nine i was like how'd that happen they're like they did it with the like there's all these legalese behind it you can't rig something like this and i was like well i did buy 18 tickets uh the people crying they're losers uh because i don't really understand like they should have bought 18 tickets also akron wants this for publicity exactly i think i think the uh the campaign why didn't pat why didn't pat mcafee uh finish in the top 10 why didn't john gruden like there's a lot there's other people of note who who bought tickets i bought two tickets max bought two tickets i think yeah a lot of people i bought 18 tickets i'd say probably the entire company purchased one season ticket right so why didn't any of them win because it's random you only nine people got picked 10 10 so how do they determine who's going to win from those nine i have no idea i have no idea now i cut i want to win still very badly i mean this whole thing is very i also just like the the entire promo and like the ins and outs of how it's going like what robert morris is thinking about them giving away an offensive coordinator job for like for for one series how the offensive coordinator at akron feels about this how he'd feel about it if they scored on the first drive how the team would look if like first play of the game pick six fumble return for touchdown like the whole dynamic of having a random person it's a great idea yeah it's great for publicity but then there's so much more stuff that like once you start unpeeling it this whole thing could play out in in a super interesting way yeah and i i would love to listen i love maxi i've loved maxi for a very long time uh if i don't win i'll still i'm still going to try to go to an akron game by the way the the 18 season tickets i bought i think all the season tickets we don't use get donated to uh charity non-profit tickets for kids so that's cool and yeah the people complaining i don't really know what to say to them because they are uh they're basically like they just live to complain because they're they're mad that that like i i got it i went a little back and forth to someone today where he was like uh a long time akron ticket season ticket holder should have won this and i was just like why shouldn't i win it i you did a raffle don't do the raffle if you don't want random people to enter just do just give it to a long time season ticket holder but they obviously want people they probably made a lot of money off this they got a lot of exposure good for akron i think it's a great contest and i hope i win and then i hope shark will them to death let's just let it play out no no sense in being upset with a top nine like you've been given the that's gonna be the funniest part i'm gonna have to go back to all these people and like what do you say now you fucking idiots there should be a top six next to the top six and then the top four and then reveal it on game day yeah but i'm excited and i also said i was i was interviewed by two different places uh and i said that i'm bringing they're like who you bringing with you and i said i'm bringing the entire pmt team i don't know if akron can afford having everyone from pmt on staff but that's a non-negosh it's a big time non-negosh i think we got to do shark wheel this is good this is good putting a little misdirection what do you think right now hank what do you think shark wheel no you gotta do you gotta do four shark wheels four shark wheels what about one shark wheel fake shark wheel fake punch shark wheel fake punch shark wheel what do you think pft i just do four straight fullback dives man football what are you looking at on your phone right now hank nothing shark wheel fake shark if you just take a knee for jesus what about a fake one too i want to win it'd be sick shout out akron i think it's a cool thing i really do i think it's a cool promo what else is going to get akron on the map yeah i mean this this promo already has right right so no matter who it is if it's you if it's somebody else like it's going to be a talking point as well not only that if it's a random person i'll be happy for that person but i will say that if if i win this we will make content out of it and share it with everyone you know what i mean people will get to see some of the things behind the scenes and the cool shit we get and if it's not i'm going to judge that that offensive series just as harshly as i would judge uh the normal akron offense coordinator who you know we talk about that person all the time whoever that is yeah and i i will be on immediately on the hot seat right like if i if i fuck up i'm i'm never getting another job again oh i'm yeah i'm saying like yeah no matter if it's you if it's somebody else like we will evaluate we will evaluate that person harshly yeah that they do i will take that job very seriously as a journalist okay uh do we have any other fifth down plus extra anything else are we going five we're going five downs the penn state coke story is awesome we are reading about it probably coked up probably pledge kabar yeah and did you see that drop of the the music drop i'm too old to to to quote tweet something like that and be like that fucking rocks but they did a uh like an intro to a edm song and it was a song that was the lead investigator being like and and the uh defendants transported like three kilograms of cocaine across state lines and then the beat drops it's fucking sick that's like if you're a penn state student you have to be listening to that at a party this week yeah yeah it's about to be welcome week white out if i know college kids they're gonna narc on each other yeah well that's how it all started yeah they already did it's about to be it's about to be a race to see who can cut the best deal i guess one of the the kid who he was uh they were just open venmos getting paid open venmos on his coke deals i love that whoops they'll never catch us whoops um okay do we have anything else i'm looking right now tugboat started that was cool hoss is back um i went on a rant about the phillies last week and they've won every single game since and i made a bet i shared with you last night yeah i thought that i thought we were keeping that in house oh okay we can yeah all right all right yeah from here on out in house okay but if anyone wants to ride with max and i i bet uh the phillies plus 475 to win the nl east in house starting now it's like the braves are gonna collapse well i it was i don't think i bet and i couldn't i bet it i bet it because i went and looked at the schedule well i was talking to sanford steve and he mentioned he's like take a look at this and then i also was looking at the schedule the phillies and braves play each other seven times and then the braves play the cubs three times at wrigley and i was just like oh cubs sweep so i was like there's 10 losses right there one problem is the phillies can't beat a good team yeah max told me that after i put it yeah so that was my fault um over time over time fernando mendoza gives post-practice interview he's a weirdo have you did you see that yeah i mean he's got i like him i do too i do too but he's gotten weirder yeah definitely like he is now fully he is he is now fully ted talk yeah absolutely he talks like a hologram version of gary v yeah it was uh it's bizarre you want to bring up the uh the post-practice interview that and i like him and i hope he's very successful but like the way that he talks sounds like he has typed this out in his head and spell-checked it already it is go against the texans defense which is also a top defense in the league go against them be able to get some reps with the ones against the superstars on their defense and then obviously their twos are fantastic as well we got so much work whether it's new the ball first down third down red zone two minute there's so many situations and i believe over the next couple of weeks we're going to be able to get a positive day there were plays that i loved and plays that i wish i had back but in reality that's a lie i wish i didn't have it back because it's a growing experience and plot to practice it's practice and this is what i love and it's a beautiful day to play football here and i'm so happy it's so many things to learn from from i wish i had him back actually check that i'm glad i threw those interceptions because you learn more from a pick than you do from a touchdown that's why jalen hurts is a genius this preseason absolutely it's it's quite something i do i i love it's crazy i don't know they seem like he's it seems like he's talking just off the top of his head but he is delivering them like like you would expect your ceo to do yeah on like an off-site fire the team up meeting yeah like he's looking at all the reporters almost like he's trying to inspire them yeah he has a lot of the the the balmer like energy of you know we're dropping a new operating system and be excited about all these features yeah well that he looks at training camp is like he's upgrading his own operating system in his head wait till you see what i got doing in on third down yeah fernand 2.0 mendoza i'm a fan i think he's gonna be good too i really do i hope so i i think he's gonna be good i i just uh falcon uh double overtime double overtime hit the buffalo wild wings button uh atlanta falcons fans are having a time they're not happy right now their quarterbacks are both lefties and bad and they're they they keep reporting it's a rush to report every single bad pass that tua makes he had like three picks and a fumble um in his last training camp practice and falcons fans are going through it right now yeah they're not doing they're not doing so well and feel bad for him in the division vita ve staying in tampa bay so congrats zach seems like things are coming back together yeah jason light and vita were chopping up at a training camp after that uh two years 48 million love that love that let's go thank you the defense get paid my man yes uh maybe maybe we need to come up with a new word for demanding a trade just doesn't happen anymore yeah it feels like it used to mean something when you demanded a trade now they just demand a trade and then they're like oh new contract you you used to like invite reporters over to your house take your shirt off and do sit-ups in the driveway but i actually think there should be like a rule that you you can ask for a new contract you can say you're unhappy but the minute you demand a trade you're no longer allowed to play for that team you can't get you can't be like you have to either sit out of your you can't demand demanding a trade should be like oh no that is serious well he because this is this the the flow chart for nfl disgruntled nfl players it's like you hold you hold in that's the first one then the hold out then you request a trade then you demand a trade demanded he demanded he did he request i'm pretty sure demanded a trade demand trade and then after that i guess would be like get fat and out of shape i'm reading it right here vita uh vita demands trade okay so it was a trade yeah if you demand a trade you should have to back that up with your actions i just yeah i want i want it to be like a whole i want it to be a whole thing where where if there's a disgruntled player you can have the process like you just described but then when you demand a trade you have to do a press conference to be like i am hereby demanding a trade and then it's it's like oh you have to you have to follow through with the demand of the trade yep um all right should we do mount rushmore let's do mount rushmore then we have max truce uh on the show which we said at the beginning but max truce we we taped it on tuesday he got traded on wednesday that's never happened to us before we did at least acknowledge it could happen either way it's awesome interview max truce is the absolute man he hung out like all day on tuesday um and we're gonna root for him when he's at the clippers but uh that will come up after mount rushmore before we do mount rushmore draft kings draft kings something big is coming on september 2nd draft kings game day arrives with massive deals exclusive offers an all-day celebration built for sports fans the countdown has begun all roads lead 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They're the 1-1 of candy when you were picking your Mount Rushmore. They're the 1-1, 1-2, 1-3. You go down the list. Reese's Sticks, the Animal Crackers with Reese's. It's all there. Reese's, absolute best candy ever created. New York Knicks of candy. Go get the Reese's Peanut Butter Cups with Oreo. Incredible. Incredible. The big cup as well. Can't miss. We love Reese's. Reese's, the official candy partner of Barstool Sports. Go get Reese's wherever you shop. Okay. Mount Rushmore of skills you think you could master in a night. What is it? What was the exact thing? Overnight. Overnight. What did I say exactly? Skills you could master. Overnight. Overnight. Okay. Zach, blowout win on Wednesday. If you miss Wednesday's show, we're going to a 1v1v1 setup because Max Beams and I already clinched not being last place. Zach with a blowout win. PFT came in with a narrow second place. I think it was like 1%. Second place, second place. And then Hank is in last place, and Hank and Max are now fighting. Yeah, big time. It was contentious earlier. What was the contentious about? The contentious part was they recommended a Mount Rushmore topic today that I think was funny to them, but in reality, not a great topic for debate. I objected to the topic. I kept it business. Hank decided to go personal with Max. Listen, Max is going to be gone. I don't know when he's ever going to be back. I'm going to miss him. A little behind the curtains, I looked at Colton and was like, Hey, get your camera ready. And then I just, you know. I threw a heater in the pot to just get Max riled up. Yeah, you said Max is so checked out and already on his sex vacation. I said no. But this was just, I was just trying to get Max upset. What, Max? I said you got to stop saying sex vacation. No one has ever been more checked out in the history of this planet than Max. And then he flipped out. Sounds like Labor Day is going to be nine months from your sex vacation. Getting later every year. You got it, Max. You get it. You got it. You got it. You got it. Yep. Yep. Hank, but in Max's defense, are you potentially in the portion of the Mount Rushmore season where you get triggered because of your own performance on the field? Not yet. We've had one game. Yeah, but I felt like that's a- I barely came in third. That was an early warning sign. Yeah, but you went from last in the game we were playing to then a new game, and then you're still in last. I mean, you asked the question. I answered it. That's if the end, if I know. Last today, maybe, but I'm not there yet. Zach, what did I say on the stream last night about Hank and Mount Rushmore? You did say when it gets late into the season, things should go a little left. Yeah, things start to- Lefty-lock? He starts to fight a war against himself, and that ends up usually in him lashing out. Okay. Right. I mean, I have documented evidence of me just doing that to get Max fired up, but- Yeah, no, no. I agree with you there. I was just asking. That was a separate question. Like, I completely agree with you and believe that you were triggering Max in a way that was very funny, but is there a small part of you that is also like, I fucking hate Mount Rushmore because I suck at it? No, not yet. So it's coming? Maybe. And Max is going to miss that. Yeah. Because of his sex vacation. Mm-hmm. Okay. Mount Rushmore of skills you think you could master overnight. Henry's first. PFT's second. Zach is third. I think we got that right. I think we're just going to go in order. Yeah. We're going to do that. We're going to go in a circle. We're doing a reverse of the last time. We're going first. We're just going to circle. Wait, but counterclockwise. Yeah. Counterclockwise, but we're- It's a triangle. The way we did it when it was- Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no. They're actually sitting in a circle. The problem with before was that I was sitting in the middle of the circle, and you guys were on that side. So I'm first. You're first. PFT's second. Zach is third. On Monday, PFT wins. PFT will be first. It's a fact. Counterclockwise. I'm going to go with, I don't know how to word this. Oh, all right. Driving stick shift. Oh, that's how you word it. It's a good pick. So you practice overnight in the dark. It's one of those things where it seems impossible, but it's actually not. It's, I think, a full night of learning and training. I like that pick. And then it would be awesome. Yeah. I'm intimidated by stick. But I do think that if I sat down and did it for two hours, I'd be like, yeah, I got this. Yeah. Yeah. I learned how to drive stick first. My mom was like, you're going to learn on this car first. That way, if you ever have to drive somebody else's, you can do it. There's nothing more scary than if you drive a stick shift and you're on a hill and you come to a stop and then having to restart while there's somebody right behind you. Like, I don't know how people don't get into accidents every single day doing that. What about alien spiders? What about it? Well, no, you said nothing. You said nothing scarier. No, I think that's. Like, if alien spiders came down? If we're doing the Mount Rushmore of terrifying things, I think shifting into first gear while on an incline as a new stick shift driver is number one. Nazi alien spiders. You know, I hate Nazis, but I'm not scared of them. Okay. So, no. Good pick, Hank. Thanks. Yeah. Pifty? That was a good pick. I hope that we trigger some people with this Mount Rushmore. It's my hope. I'm going to go with shuffling a deck. I'm going to go with a deck of cards becoming a really sick shuffler. It's a good pick. I'll say it right now. I do not respect people, men, grown men who can't shuffle. That's why I've never done it. I got it. I thought you were going to go the opposite and I was going to get mad. No. If I hand you a deck of cards and you, like, do the big mix up like a child or you smash them together. Yeah. I instantly think less of you as a man. You know what I do? I take that deck and I'm like, here, Hank, you shuffle. And then I give it to someone else. Yeah. I just pass it right along. I'm like, we're talking bridge on the way back down to you, right? Yeah. I know to shuffle. Not well. No, I can shuffle. But I mean, 50% of the time, it looks like dog shit. 50%. It's like a dead guy. We got to learn. We got to shuffle overnight. Overnight. We can't be doing this overnight. Let's do it tonight. Yeah. Because I don't have to be you guys. We got. We can't have that. I'm telling you, it's Marcus Jones has picked up. Joan hurts again. Oh, shit. Max just left. So 20 to get 26 intercepts. Max. Why did Max leave? He's going to get a deck card. Oh, I thought it was even for sex vacation. I think he probably got the alert that there was another pick. He's like, I'm not dealing with this shit. I'm not doing this. All right, Zach, you have two. I'm going to pick PFT. That is a great pick. I'm going to take grave digging. Oh, we're trying to master something. Hey, Max, breaking moves. Hank, do you want to do the cow? Give it to me. I just picked up. Joan hurts again. He opted out. It's a crisp. Yeah, crisp shuffle. See this, Hank? I understand, like, my concept of shuffling. Yeah. I don't know if you do. Well, that was a bad one. That. Yeah, I don't. I don't do bright. I don't like I can't shuffle. What is going on here? That was a good one. Oh, that was a really good. What is going on? I don't know. Max, this is. I don't know, Max. He's so checked out. He's on vacation. It's Hank's turn. You're right, Hank. He's going to have so much sex. I told you that's what I do. You were right. You were so right, Hank. He's so checked out. Oh, no. Hank, what are you doing? I said I can't shuffle. But why are you doing it? Just mixing it up. You got to at least try it. Stop. What? All right. We're going to learn. We got to. I don't respect you as much as you lived. Go. Okay. Then what if I just put you in a car and said, look, try it. Yeah, you're not a man, Max. Like, I can't do it. I'm going to teach you, Hank. I've never seen the side. You went side, not, you know, tops. I would love to be able to do the bridge on the way back up. 50% of the time when I do it, it's crisp. It's perfect. And when you. Wait, wait. Shuffle. No, I said when I get asked to shuffle, what I do is I hand it to Hank. That's my shuffling right now. But you said 50% of the time you're able to do it. It's a toss up. I don't want to. I don't want to land on the wrong side of that coin right now. I'm like, okay, okay. That was at least more respectable. All right. We're going to learn how to shuffle. We're going to teach you guys how to show. It could happen overnight. All right. Grave digging was Zach's first pick. If we're trying to master skills. Yeah. I just think. Okay. Some of these, I don't know if we're mastering. I think, like, you're roasting a clutch overnight. Okay. I don't know. Maybe I took it too literal on the master part. No, no, but you're right. You would be able to master that. And then secondly. Wait, wait. Zach, are you saying, like, to. you could do it overnight. accomplish digging one grave overnight or is there something different about digging a grave than there would be about digging a hole I just think there's no that just seemed like a skill it's a profession yeah you put it down as like a skill you have I'd agree with that second I would like to take co-check oh okay you took it very literally I think you take I could be a master co-checker overnight I don't want to disparage the profession but is he's right I take I take your coat here's the ticket yeah yes and then I take one side of the ticket but you got to remember what to do with that one side of the ticket and keep it yeah masters don't make mistakes I think I can master that overnight yeah yeah true yeah mastery okay this is a very literal taking of this but I like it okay go ahead pft how to make the perfect paper airplane I think you get a lot of reps overnight you can test them against each other by the time sun comes up you've got the perfect design that our guy Sante recently that proved that that's not true he watched a week long video and took a Yale course in it and then finished third in a paper airplane throwing competition out of three people out of three people I think that you could I personally think this Mount Rushmore being what could I master overnight yeah I think if I tried hard enough I would create a perfect paper airplane yeah okay Hank I'm gonna go with tying a bow tie mm-hmm okay that's so hard it's so hard but like you were talking what you have all night yeah I like it like you have all night it's hard but like that's the that's the perfect time to you don't have enough time to there's things you have enough time to do learning a bow tie I feel like if I had a full night I could this might be the punishment for Rushmore loser has to do one do it to all master one of these do all of the ones that you put out there for that Rushmore yeah okay and then I'm gonna go with beating a video game yeah yeah if you give it a full night and you're like I'm not going to bed and I'm just gonna keep hammering it yeah not all of them though there's some really shitty ones like Zelda yeah you cannot be tonight yeah Battletoads you have to do like six weeks nothing but Zelda all the time game I connected enough flutes that I've mastered the elf all right PFT you have a pick hey don't sell this and say yeah well it's real sexist no really link link is uh is a chick link is a male Zelda is a female Hank doesn't even know I do not I said the hate on Zelda Zelda he did this is true you said but I hate on I hate on the video game where you play as the little elf guy yeah but the game is called Zelda yeah yeah Ocarina's Ring no oh no yeah but not it's not okay oh you've you've you've unveiled you've unveiled the magic harp now you get three more diamonds oh breaking moves let's fucking fly from Missouri to Kansas it's called skills magic breaking moves breaking moves breaking moves apparently Dan Hurley is rewatching the Duke Yukon game this morning and laughing at them on Instagram stories that rocks he's got the laughing why why would he laugh at that game look at that Duke was laughing emoji yeah but Duke was crushing wise awesome okay that was it why would he laugh at that I don't know who's up I'm up yep I'm gonna go with CPR yeah we had it on our list master that overnight maybe save a life something you really don't want to fuck up though if you met if you think you mastered it that's true that's one of those skills that you have and and you probably don't I would not go around telling people that I was certified or that I knew CPR but then when the shit went down if nobody else could do it it's kind of like if I was on a plane and the pilot passed out and the flight attendant was like is anyone here a pilot I wouldn't say shit yeah but then I'd wait like 10 seconds and I'd be like I am kind of I own a flight simulator yeah all right Zach you have two I'm gonna go with Battleship the game yes okay but there's a bunch of different openings in Battleship you could probably get into there okay and then for and then I would also like to take bartending at a dive bar okay that's a good pick that's a good pick wait there's you don't have to make any entry intricate cocktail no you just open a beer yeah there's openings in Battleship I was not aware of this well we're looking to master it you know yeah yeah although I think you might be too nice for a bartender at a dive bar I think you got to be like a little bit of yeah I get in overnight though he's got a master that's a good point you can master that yeah and you actually would get really mean if you if you didn't get your sleep yes I'll be up all evening trying to master certain beers yeah I feel like if you bartended at a dive bar Zach somebody would come and try to order something fancy they'd be like can I have a French 75 and you'd be like yeah yes sir and then you turn around you'd be like shit I don't have any of those ingredients they're getting the vodka soda with like a two fun wedges but the right answer is no this is what you get yeah it's beer and drinks that are two ingredients you want a beer or do you want two beers yeah and yes we have ashtrays yeah uh okay pft your last pick uh my last pick I'm gonna go with changing a tire you can figure that out overnight that's a good pick that's gonna be my next pick yeah I've done it not overnight but like in a morning I figured that out it's not that hard you just have to no it's mostly about I learned how to do it when I was younger but if I had to do it today you'd know how to do it probably not but overnight you can master we just got it we just got a side text from one of the one of the boys listening in the uh editing bay what'd they say I'm not gonna say who it is but Shane texted me and me separately and goes Zach with one of the worst drafts in the history of Mount Rushmore oh no no bartender was good bartender was good he just took it very literally yeah all right what's your last pick Hank hmm juggling okay we said juggling yeah we had it on our list juggling's hard but you got a full night you could learn I could do three balls maybe four uh it was between that we're done right yeah I was I was tell me tell me which if that was the correct pick between juggling harmonica bacon cookies I had cooking in general all you do is really follow direction like I cook anything especially if we give me like hey here's your ingredients just like I'm just thinking like you got a full night you you try round you know you could try like seven or eight batches of cookies and by the eighth one you would assume you've created the perfect cookie you guys you guys went pretty respectful because we were getting disrespectful with ours we went I think you did a good pick there your last one but we got disrespectful we we think you could you could master excel no overnight oh yeah for sure I'm already proficient yeah it's only one more step to being a master photography easily I didn't say that these are people who go to school for a really long time I think you can learn Spanish overnight uh we also had code to code yeah very simple super simple then we had tennis player and pickleball easy yeah master tennis we could have a duper at five in a second pickleball for sure I had one disrespectful thing on here I didn't take it uh DJing yeah DJing press play yep boom Rubik's Cube we had yeah I thought we had I thought about Rubik's Cube but honestly zero zero chance no it's just an algorithm yeah like yeah Max I'll pay you a thousand dollars if you can learn how to do a Rubik's Cube as an expert overnight different boating knots oh that's good also just just making a budget I really know how to phrase that one but like I've like just like being like all right spend this is your allotment for uh various raffles um state capitals that's your budget yeah that's my budget you spend this much on raffles someone help me with my budget we had golf yeah we had golf as well if you spent one full night on golf 50 state capitals you could you could memorize those nope you should try yeah I guarantee you no if you just tried there's only 50 of them yeah and you know most of them Zach talk to us what's going on in the head what's up uh yeah uh he's pissed at you we had a good draft uh a lot of these I'll say a few of these things I don't think any of us could master overnight but uh yeah like what uh yeah the stick shift thing I don't think you're mastering that overnight 100% the Rubik's Cube thing 100% probably not Rubik's Cube no you think you think stick shift overnight yes and you're not you're not slipping a gear you're just you have eight hours Columbus if you're on the first couple hours yes have you been at like have you been in first on a hill Madison no but again like the first time yeah it might be a struggle the second third fourth fifth Cheyenne oh Cheyenne shit it was on PFT yep Zach is so mad at Shane. No, not at all. He's really mad at Shane? No, no. Providence. Mike Goff just said Shane's afraid of vegetables. I didn't say that. Do you know? When I was in third grade, our class was like you had to, like spelling, you had to pass. And if you didn't pass, everyone moved on. You stayed on that level. Honolulu. I was the last person in states and capitals. It was traumatizing. No, no, no. No. Oh, it is. What's that? Columbia. We're really having, what were you saying, Hank? Helena. Helena. what are you saying i was the last person in my class in third grade to pass the states and capitals i think that's i think it's frankfurt yeah i think it's frankfurt small capital alabama is birmingham montgomery all right let's get to our interview good to mount rushmore everyone is there a spring yeah okay do they have to hold did they hold you back on capitals i think what do you mean that'd be funny if they're like we're not going to hold you back to grade but just capitals yeah pretty much yeah that sucks yeah it's like city yeah all right let's get to our interview with max streus who's now on the clippers and uh we're gonna talk to him great time with him before we get to max streus he's brought to you by netflix netflix is expanding its nfl coverage in 2026 we got week one to the first ever thanksgiving eve matchup and two christmas day games and a playoff game in january week one of the upcoming nfl season it's the league's first ever regular season game in australia 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also has a uh charity event on sunday uh which is a great great cause the max truce family foundation where are you guys doing it on sunday at the uh big uh city pickle in west loop okay it's pickleball are you allowed to play pickleball i am you are yes i'll be playing are you good i'm all right what's my rating you have a rating uh i'm probably in the 80s i'll probably be in the 80s yeah i don't know you're not good but wait it's not like a duper you don't have a duper dude no i don't have a duper yeah okay you're not i don't know that as a thing is it like a golf handicap we have a uh you know what i'm just gonna call yeah we have a pickleball he loves the sport okay and he's very adamant about people saying they play pickleball and if they don't have a duper he gets yeah no i don't have a duper this is an interesting way to start an interview we got to do it uh mike's the man he's the man he's uh loves cannolis hey we got uh max truce here in studio from the calves and he says he plays pickleball do you have any questions for him i need a duper rating right away hey max what's your duper yeah i gotta work on that he doesn't have a dupler he doesn't have one always a bad sign you know that okay all right thank you mike appreciate it all right bye always a bad sign so we're getting better so yeah i needed more knowledge i guess yeah i gotta shoot for a duper this time next year gotta have a duper yeah is it it's a tournament it is a tournament okay there's three levels uh there's a competitive thing there's a anybody like leisurely wants to come play and there's a celebrity tournament as well so who's that kate kate's in it barstool kate okay she's really good chief and uh white socks dave are playing yeah um herb jones from the pelicans is coming over uh we gotta play next year i had a conflict this year because it's my kids start school the next day so we're doing one last vacation i don't have a duper you don't have one either i do not i actually you know what pickleball's a fine sport we'll keep it we'll keep it we'll keep it good it's for the kids we're doing a foundation yeah exactly great chair all right so how what's what's this week like right now so we're taping this on tuesday you're we're gonna run it on friday are you still gonna be a calf do you have any do you get any updates no you don't know anything until it happens i mean i've never been in this situation i've never been in this situation i've never been in this situation before i've never been like on trade rumors and trade blocks like this before so it's something new that i'm learning as well but um to the answer your question i don't know yeah um so if it happens it happens and we'll be all right if it doesn't i'll be happy back in cleveland i think it's also like weirdly a compliment that you have like uh such a trade like you have a contract that people are like this is a good player on the last year of a deal like this is a great like asset that we can you know shop around yeah you don't want to take it as a slight like just getting rid of you like you have value right people want you so like at some point it's like all right you're doing something people know who you are people want you so i'm not mad about it it is what it is i get it it's a business at the end of the day so um you just got to take it for what it is and if it happens it happens all right so other offseason question what was your favorite moment from uh almost being teammates with lebron because there was like that one week where it's like oh he's definitely going to everybody thought he was coming to the game yeah yeah so nobody truly did you have a favorite moment of that um you know what i golfed one day during that week and i was like man this is gonna be pretty cool if i can i get the golf of lebron that's a good answer that's a good answer i was looking forward to that but unfortunately that didn't happen that is that's a highlight yeah what was it super weird this year in that one playoff game i forget which one it was when charles barkley basically said he wanted to date you yes on national tv i think the quote was something like he's a good looking man yeah he compared me like tom brady yeah i think he said i would not look him dead in the eye because you're that good looking did you did you reach out to charles afterwards you sent him a text like you up what's going on what's up charles uh we definitely did another interview like a week later and i got to talk to him um but yeah no no weird stuff but you know it was just like a it was a nice compliment that i'll take from the guy very nice has a woman ever talked to you in the same way that i wish he really liked you yes no i wish some women would do that no he's got it yeah that was awesome yeah those guys are very funny they're the best we've had chuck on a couple times he's just he could just all day yeah all day all of them all three of those guys in there can do that um your career though is is interesting because you you're not like you weren't a top draft pick you had to kind of scratch and claw you know g league you get hurt all these things was there was there a moment where because a lot of times guys if they aren't drafted they're just going right to europe and they're like all right this is i'll make a great living playing ball in europe but it's never going to happen to me for me in the nba was was that ever a thought like i'm going to go to europe or you're multiple times yeah there's plenty moments where i was like i'm probably not going to make it anymore um i'd say like coming out of high school in division two you know my brother played at lewis university so i followed in his footsteps and everybody who was good on that team played overseas and played professionally so i was like that's going to be my route um so that was always like the dream the goal and then once i transferred to depaul my sights kind of changed of like all right i could play in the nba and make it but then obviously had my sniff played in summer league and and i was like well that might have been my shot you know um but yeah going overseas was always an option always a thought the nba was never really the thought but then it just kind of just all kept working out and was there a moment where you're like okay i'm i'm good like i i can do this i'm good yeah i've made it i've i can actually like i belong here absolutely um you know after i tore my acl i got to go to miami and i was there for three years but after my first year there they signed me like a two-year minimum and i played summer league that summer and i was like oh my that was like my moment of like i'm here i belong i should be here and i'm gonna i'm gonna be a good player in the league that's gotta be an incredible feeling where you where you have the confidence of like i'm actually i'm actually good at this and i can beat i can beat these guys like i'm better than some of these guys and i can contribute to a team yeah no it was i mean the heat like put me in summer league and they're like it's your third year but you're gonna play we want you to be the guy and like at that point you kind of just get your confidence rolling and and then i had a really good summer league and follow that into the season everything just like kept taking off from there and how do you how do you describe heat culture how do you describe heat culture is it just that they weigh you every day many times it's uh once a week yeah yeah you got to have body your body fat's got to be in touch uh it can't be over 10 body fat uh fuck how do they know i have no culture it's like these like little like clamper things they bring out the calipers on you guys you get pinched once a week by your team oh yeah so i'm the strength coach is like right out of the showers like step on the scale somewhere like 22 percent over the heat culture line yeah you would not be able to play in a game they would be making you run sprints after practice making you run on the treadmill until you got down to 10 if you get to ask that question can i give you way to answer it yeah you just answer it with another cliche you say the standard is the standard yeah or and then they're like oh yeah yeah i get that right they'd be like oh yeah or you have to or you just say if you have to ask you can't afford it like if you if you have to ask about heat culture like dude you're it's never going to be for you yeah you know that's a great way to go in yeah are there uh are there some guys in the g league that are that you see like in the developmental areas that aren't really they've kind of like given up that dream they're there they're getting a paycheck they're playing ball but like you can tell that they're not really they don't have that dream of playing in the nba anymore no i think everybody has a dream and i think everybody thinks that they belong um and i think that's why that's some guys get yeah i think everybody's just like the g league's an interesting place man like guys are just like grinding for their lives out there making 35 000 a year but like everybody there thinks that they can start and play and score 20 points a game in the nba so it's just like i think the toughest job is probably coaching the g league of like trying to get people to play in the nba and they're like trying to get people to play in the nba and they're like trying to get people to play in the nba and they're like trying to get people to play in the nba and they're trying to balance all those egos but yeah there's definitely talented guys but there's some guys that just like yeah ain't gonna make it it's partially that partially if you still have that belief in yourself as a team of everybody that thinks that they should be in in the nba like how do you get those players to play as a team because yeah at the end of the day they're trying to get their own stats up they're trying to do whatever they need to do to prove themselves to a gm have you ever been to a g league game i have yeah and it's not it's not always the best team basketball no no not at all yeah if you're a point guard you're in a good spot but if you're anybody else but a point guard in the center you're probably not going to score much yeah yeah it's anybody who has the ball in their hand that's kind of getting the shot so it's an interesting dynamic um there's definitely been some good g league teams but it's a crazy world down there it's crazy world yeah um also as a professional athlete and specifically in the nba i was wondering if you could teach us what taxes are and because i think you guys have to pay taxes and we don't i don't know what that is so shit you guys make more money than me you guys should tell me about taxes how does that work when the only thing i know about taxes is that i get taxed in every city that i'm in so like you know we play in la for three days like you're getting taxed those those nights in la but yeah i got somebody who handles that for me so i can't answer any of your can you just say uh and we'll just clip it just be like people don't understand that athletes pay taxes too people do not understand that athletes of course pay taxes as well damn that's great wow yes yes lose your money at least yeah damn say damn damn damn that's a lot yeah it's a new trend where it's like you know whatever athlete who uh maybe got into money issues they're like you make 100 million dollars boom chop it in half right away it's like yeah dude we all know yeah everybody does we all got it um do you think you need more respect as a dunker because you are a sneaky dunker well that's every white guy in the nba i know but you get up there and you like throw down yes i i do i've i've like it's been my dream of mine since i was a kid to be in the dunk contest why aren't we doing it uh so i had a chance like two years ago where they were like calling me and they're like ah we got somebody else in the line but like if he says no like you're our next guy and like by the time they called i already planned like a trip to go to like punta cana yeah so i was like yeah i'm not gonna do that that's actually the the perfect answer for a guy that should be the dunk contest yeah yeah i'm gonna be in mexico yeah maybe next year but yeah you should be in it like imagine if it was you and mac mclung in the finals i mean that guy's unreal yeah the dunks that he can do i i'm i don't think i could do all that but i could you know have you have you thought together like thought about what your what your three dunks would be have you daydreamed about that i i have one oh yeah are you one are you still think you're gonna do it i would love to okay so i don't know if i can give it no i think if you tell us that maybe it will no one else can do it people like we got to see it and if somebody else does it they that's infringing on your ip i promise to not do this dunk yeah i mean it's like a triple backflip yeah yeah no i'm not gonna do that shit i can't make that promise wait all right so we have a running bit on this show um i got a question because you said putakana it reminded me of something um obviously losing in the playoff sucks sucks but like going to cabo as a professional athlete rocks never been okay wherever you're going to vacation it rocks right it can yeah okay because we always joke like whenever like oh enjoy cabo it's like yeah they probably will probably will they're super rich in awesome shape like gonna have a good time you could never dream of having that yeah they probably will have a very good time fans being like see you cancun loser yeah people are like i think that's like a slight it's like all right if i see you there i'll see you i'm basically gonna just be in heaven for two weeks so yeah i yeah actually i won't see you there because you won't be there i will i get to go just a like small part of like hey imagine going to the pool and like not being embarrassed to take off your shirt they get to do that so yeah probably rock yeah no it's a i mean you don't want to be there of course but yes it's it's usually a pretty good time yeah anytime you can get away vacation's fun can i ask you a headline grab question when it's going to get clipped make a uh make a starting five out of guys that you've played with top starting five all your teammates current and former um i think jimmy butler's got to be in there yep donovan mitchell um should donovan mitchell be taller have you guys ever met him no but his his arm length is crazy insane yeah yeah i think he wears like a size like 16 shoes yeah i think he should be taller it doesn't make any sense okay yeah keep going i'm happy we confirmed yes um don jimmy who else have i played with those are definitely the two um i gotta throw james harden in there yeah okay i'm just off of his resume yeah um bam out of bio that's fair and you know what i'm a huge dare to alan fan he's a man i love him down yeah he's one of my favorite players ever were you uh did you the bam tyler hero uh fight were you there for that no you didn't see any of that i don't know if you guys were there for summer league there seemed like there was a lot of guys like just yeah i haven't been to vegas in a couple years it's not really that that whole week's not for me yeah you want to go to vegas but everybody in the nba is there yeah right so it's like did those guys not get along when you were on the heat no they did yeah yeah i don't know what happened to them i don't know what happened to them i don't know what happened to them after i left the heat it seems like things kind of you should say something about bam on this show right now and get smacked by them and then we can have you back on no no being me and bam are tight me and bam are tight i don't that's not what you're saying before you came on yeah it's changing when the cameras get in my face uh no bam's awesome and that's the last person i would i would imagine speaking of donovan mitchell i mean like donovan mitchell's a specimen but bam out of bio is like yeah holy shit yeah big dude that that run you guys had when you went to to the finals like that as an eight seed was there what what was it spo putting you guys in great spots was the team clicking at the right time because it was a it was incredible to see like that doesn't really happen in the nba we just like clicked at the right time i mean you can go back and look at history like the record book like during the season we were terrible yeah like we were the one seed the year before and then like all season we were terrible we couldn't gel together nobody wanted to play it was like a mess and then we lost our first playing game which was nuts going elimination game against the bulls yeah i mean it was like the most unbelievable thing that was ever experienced and everybody kind of just like vibed off of that and it was like the most like pure basketball i've ever played yeah yeah i was gonna say what's jimmy like when he dials in when you know that he's like absolutely focused locked in i i don't think there's anything else like him yeah when he's like from what i experienced and what i saw during that time i've never seen anything like that in my life yeah is that like obviously during the games like after the games before the games oh he'll drink a beer in the hot tub after like he's just like the most normal dude like he's an asshole for sure but like he'll go and drink wine after the game drink a couple beers and do it again the next day like he's just he can just like he is the most he can get away from it so easily and then when he has to turn it on he can just like flip a switch in like the fourth quarter like what kind of asshole is he because there's different kinds there's the asshole the asshole the asshole the asshole the you're like i want to i hate this guy there's the asshole it's like you're a dick but you're my asshole so i love you yeah it's kind of like that yeah um but he's also like an asshole towards you like one day you'll like look at him and he would just like won't even like acknowledge you yeah like you could like go to dinner with him night before and like you're his best friend and then the next morning you go to practice and he won't even like look at you or say hi to you and it's like damn what did i do at dinner last night it's just like but then it'll the game starts and he's your best friend again it's just like you got to play like the card just like yeah jimmy's gonna be jimmy it's like you're always trying to earn back his respect or like you're always trying to make things okay but yeah i just got to a point where i just didn't give a fuck anymore and i was just like all right jimmy's gonna be jimmy and i'm gonna do my thing and hopefully we respect each other yeah that's smart and it ended up being good we got a great handshake that we like flip each other off so yeah it's like oh what was your handshake we literally just like that's the handshake we literally went like this yeah oh that's a great handshake that is great yeah so it's basically like yeah yeah yeah that was like our relationship yeah uh speaking of teammates how awesome is b-ball paul the man i love him i'm so happy for b-ball i am too yeah come on i'm coming out of college like if you guys would have met b-ball paul as a freshman in college what was he like was he i mean because i we love it i've been obsessed with b-ball paul for a few years now i actually bought his merch which i'm pretty sure he just like yeah i'm out the mud he sent me i'm pretty sure he just like had it in his living room yeah that sounds about right because i venmoed him directly i think and then he's like got it and then and then just sent it to me yeah that's right and then he sent it to me and then he sent it to me and then he sent it to me and then sounds like Paul but it's it's incredible I mean he's he's incredible he's been in the NBA for a attributed and if he would have played more in that piston series yes we would have been struggling yeah uh paul's an unbelievable talent um one of the most unique people though like just like so out there yeah you're just like what's up with paul today like you just like don't really know where he's at but then like he actually is there like he's a really smart kid he just like doesn't handle it very well but yeah fucking i love paul yeah and he's he's like the same guy you want to play with like he's just going to show up and play hard and try to win literally do everything you want somebody to do in basketball he's just like you're going to ask him for a defensive scheme like he'll just do it like he can't really talk to you about it but he'll just do it and it'll work yeah isn't it kind of crazy that there's like de paul's not i mean how many games did you guys win in your last year it was like our most winning season in like the last 20 years so what like 12 or 11 i think it was 19 i could i listen to paul i mean the the renovations are going to be good yeah the new practice facility looks nice holman's holman's good though i like yeah i think he's good as well i mean they had a good season last year like for de paul like getting back to a point where it's like it's not a 20 point blow up no i was there a couple weeks ago they'll be competitive i mean it's going to be better they'll be competitive but it is kind of crazy that two nba guys were on that team and it's like should have been three honestly we had another guy that probably could have played in the nba but he ended up hurting his wrist like the last game of the year but i mean we had that my last year our team was like very talented yeah we when you look at it we probably should have been in the tournament yeah yeah we were like that beer in the big east everybody was like six and six going in like last week or eight and eight whatever it is and we were in like sixth place we last we lost our last game of the season at creighton and we went from 6 to 14 or 12 and then we that's what could happen yeah you literally everybody was in the same little pod and then we lost the first game of the tournament and we were done that's it what's the difference between getting drafted in like late second round and then being a free agent where you can go get because i've never been drafted so i don't know but in the nfl we say like players always talk about like i wish i hadn't been drafted if they were picked in like the seventh round because you get more control over like what might be a better fit for you that's yeah basketball is kind of the same thing i mean second round picks now are basically just like two ways yeah what it sounds like um but that's kind of the situation i had like i probably could have got drafted like late in the second round but my agent wanted a better situation for me like team-wise so it was like we'll just wait and see what our options are after the draft's over and yeah you kind of have you're picking like whoever you want to go to like teams you worked out with teams you think is going to be best fit for you and um you're able to like control your part of it a little more than just like going to a team and they draft you and now you're stuck with them yeah i have a tough question for you what's the uh the the worst place to play on the road in terms of like the crowd the stadium what's the stadium that you fear like as far as like it's shitty or like it's like a hard place a hard place to play um i mean when madison square gets rocking it's it's pretty tough i'd say philly also can get that way and boston um from my experience i haven't really done much on the west coast uh but those three those three places of can get loud what about denver with the mile high stuff is it can you feel it oh yes yeah from your yeah but like as far as like the fans it wasn't like that crazy but but like yes your stamina and things like that like you're definitely tired yeah also philly is pretty much like that's new york because there's so many new york fans you basically pick new york twice yeah because they have jobs philly's like they'll say whatever to you like yeah yeah yeah it's bad like they they say some wild stuff yeah unless the knicks are playing them because then they'll say well then it's all let's go and then you're like awesome this is sick like if the knicks can be good one day that that place is gonna go nuts right there's us just trolling our entire booth right now yeah they're all they're they're like not listening because we're getting you're getting from the other max hey max on max you want to ask max a max question are you max well max a million i'm straight up just max wow whoa yeah i'm max well ah you're cooler than me all right that was cool max on max he's actually not even he's he's fake my middle name middle name yeah but he goes by max yeah yeah your first name is max right your real name is max he's like appropriating your culture yeah i don't like that yeah anyone ever call you maxi pad growing up of course i still get it to the segment to the max yeah what what other nicknames you get do you guys get growing up maxi pad is the worst yeah max it's really everybody kind of just like stuck there it was and they they think it's the first time you've ever heard it and they think it'd be so funny it's it's the easiest thing to come up with ever or just like maxi i don't like max yeah i like i like maxi all right well i like he's like a big actually and he's also a big toddler all right yeah i also like men it's like what men are like minimum the opposite the opposite just men what anyone ever call you men i've never gotten that one i don't know where that one came from i just came up with that on the spot oh wow new nickname drops yeah that was crazy it's like tiny it's like yeah i don't like it but it sounds like we gotta do it yeah um how many threes could you make in a row or have you made a row in a practice no no defense no defense uh i think the most i've gotten is like 60 something oh my god yeah that's a lot that's crazy yeah you really gotta like it's more mentally than just like the shooting ability like you it's hard to focus when you're not yeah you're just like bored you get bored you know it's just you get bored because you make so many threes in a row it's just like you do it every day you know you're like all right like it's just that's gotta be a cool feeling yeah that's a very cool feeling do you you you know right away if a shot's in right usually yeah has there ever been like a big one that surprised you uh probably the the half court shot i made against dallas oh yeah yeah that one surprised me but i'm not gonna lie to you i think i did know that that was had a really chance of going i didn't i didn't say i like knew but it was like online and it felt awesome yeah when you guys play against the celtics are you like hey don't let peyton pritchard shoot in the last half second of a quarter yes that's actually talked about it it should be it's talked about yeah you know where the ball's going to yeah is it talked about with yokich at the last uh second of a quarter that he's trying to get a foul oh yeah yeah oh yeah because that's all that stuff is like documented yeah everybody knows about those things yeah how how how detailed is like um is is like the film study before regular season not not much you would be surprised yeah regular season's kind of just like you play every other day so like it's you know before the game you'll do like a personnel report but it's not like let's lock in get dialed in on this like it's just like this is what his tendencies are and try to make him not do what he's good at right so how much how much longer is that in the playoffs so much more like how much time do you spend in the playoffs making adjustments every day i mean all day every day yeah in the game the next day your first like two days before the series starts it's like personnel but you're like watching clips you're like really dialing in on what they do what they're good at and then from there on it's like all right we were forcing this guy left he's been killing us going left let's you know try something else this time so it's like every game it's like something new happens like that's that's the playoffs is adjustments like the whole time has there been a game plan that you can remember that went like perfectly according to plan you win the game and you're like damn that was actually great job by the scouts yeah yeah several times uh um what would be a good one honestly when i was in miami we played uh harden in the in philly and like our scouting report on him was was pretty good we kind of just like forced him right and you're giving away the scouting report yeah i don't want to give it away too much because it was like he's on my team now yeah um what about the other what he said he fixed it you know you can't yeah you can't do anymore yeah he took that actually you helped him exactly better yes he's like yeah hey i appreciate that now he thanks me every day he sees me yeah yeah what about uh the has there been a scouting report where you're like okay we've got a great game plan and then during the game you're like well this isn't working yeah i think the whole nick series yeah yeah it's hard to game plan against that yeah just like yeah it's the game plan is like stop a dog yeah did you tough to do did you recognize that chair did you walk by that chair i did see the chair yeah that was the one that taylor swift was sitting in game nice how much you pay for that uh we don't have to talk about it i think it's five thousand we don't have to talk about it wow there's no reason to talk about that kind of stuff all right i mean have you had i was gonna i was about to say how much do you make but you could look it up fuck if somebody asks you just be like that's so tacky yeah come on man if you have to ask you can't afford it exactly why did you uh headbutt scotty barnes that wasn't a headbutt it was kind of a headbutt max it was not meant to hit him in the head was it a nuzzle were you nuzzling i was just trying to yeah just i just wanted to do a you know assert my presence i just wanted to know that i was there you know i was having a good game i was i was feeling myself a little bit i just wanted him to like no i was you know i'm still right here yeah you hit him with the ponytail yeah yeah the man bun yeah the man bun you kind of you kind of like wiped his face with the man kind of a weapon yeah it was yeah i don't think he liked it very much so it worked i'm watching it i think you can i'm gonna count that as headbutt that's an official headbutt yeah when i went back and looked at it it doesn't look it doesn't look good but in the moment i was not yeah that's fair that's fair because when you look at it i probably should have got kicked out of the game like when you look at it you're like oh my god i'm gonna get hit by a headbutt when you look at it it does look bad yeah but that was not my intention but then you i guess you could be like hey but it's he's got a man bun like how much damage could he do right you know with his head like these kids that's another thing me and max we got yeah yeah yeah the maxes have the man bun do you do you sit do you have a high ass crack max does his ass cracks always showing it's abnormally high yeah no i don't think my ass crack okay do you have a normal irregular yes i think so okay do you get uh do you sit crisscross applesauce never i can't even do that oh wow it's just a name it doesn't mean anything else well no he pointed out that you have a man bun You weren't listening. I was. What were we talking about? What were we talking about right before that? If I had a man bun. But what about that? Who did he hit with the man bun? He wasn't listening. No. You would have said it already if you had. Scotty Barnes. Oh, future face of this league. Not anymore. Not anymore because Max's hair is all over it. If there's one team in the East that maybe hasn't been that good in the past and you're looking at, hey, that team is probably going to be much better than we've seen next season, what team would you pick for that? Toronto. Yeah, same. Like another team. I think everybody else is kind of known at this point in the East. But maybe like an up and come, like they had the first pick or something. No, don't lead them. I'm not leading them. Don't lead them. I'm saying maybe. Who are you guys trying to get me to say? No, I'm just curious. I said maybe if they had the first pick. If there's any young. If there's any young teams in the East that have been very bad for a long time that you're looking at, maybe next season they won't be that bad anymore. Do you think the Wizards are going to be good? I do. Whoa, that's crazy. Why would you say the Wizards? But my question wasn't about the Wizards necessarily. It sounds like you went there, though. So you think the Wizards are going to be better? I got some hints. They'll be better. I don't know if they'll be good, though. They'll be better. That's fine. Better is good. Better is good. Better is. Maybe win 20 games. They should. 25? Yeah. Maybe 25. I'm thinking, you know how long it's been since they won 50 games? I don't. Since they invented the three-point line. Really? It's a long time. Yeah. John Wall and Brad Beal never won 50 games. I think they got 49. I think they got 48 or 49, but no, not 50. Stop that. We're full. Well, we got too good at the sport, and then the NBA changed the rules. They're like, let's add in a Mickey Mouse three-point shot all to stop the Wizards. I guess the Bullets at the time. I was going to say, were you still the Bullets at that point? Still the Bullets. Exactly. RIP the Bullets. All right. Well, that blew up in my face a little bit. No one's got the Raptors, though. We do like the Raptors. They are a fun team. I think getting Kawhi helps. I mean, people don't give the Cavs credit for what we did in the playoffs. Everybody's like, oh, you went to seven games. But Toronto was a good team. Yeah. And they had Brandon Ingram got hurt, and they had guys step up. Their defense was phenomenal, and I think adding Kawhi to that is only going to help. I think Scotty Barnes is a very good basketball player, and he's going to be very good for a long time. So I just think that they're moving right along. Like, the trajectory, holy shit. Trajectory. Trajectory. Yeah. Of where they should be going and where they're going to be good. So I think they have potential. Yeah. All right. So I got one last question. Again, your pickleball tournament, there still are tickets available. Use spec 15, and you can get a 15% off for spectator passes available for the pickleball event. Yeah. And you can see Max, who does not have a duper, compete in this. We did not check dupers for anybody, so I don't know if anybody. Oh, you're going to get some sandbaggers. Yeah. Yeah. There might be some dupers. Yeah. But Kate's going to be there. We're going to. I might try to stop by. I got to see if I can get back in town fast enough. Yeah. We got the coffee. We got Stella Blue in there. Stella Blue's going to be there. So they're doing great stuff. So go right now to the Max Drew's Family Foundation and spec 15 for 15% off. An awesome event. Yeah. All you can drink, too. Vars open. Come on. Perfect. Yeah. 10 to 2. All you can drink. It's perfect. All right. So Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback dot com promo code take. Zach, your last question for Max. How are you doing today, Max? I did have a quick question. I do want to say congratulations on your playoff run last year. That was pretty strong. But I was curious. It felt like when you guys got to that Eastern Conference final and it did start to slip away a little bit, you made sure to stay in a competitive headspace the entire time. What kind of goes into that? How did you keep your foot on the gas even when it started to fade? Great question. Great question. He's also a Knicks fan, so that was kind of a fake nice question. Yeah, it was like a compliment. Go through how you stayed locked in when we kicked your ass. Yeah. It's the truth. I mean, they did kick our ass. That's just how I'm wired. I mean, that's just how I've always played the game is like you don't stop until it's over and I'm going to compete as hard as I can and try to do what I can to help our team win. And that's what I can control. So I just like kind of stay in that mindset of like, this is what I need to do. This is my job at this given moment and try to do that to the best of my ability to help our team win. And unfortunately, that wasn't helping much. Good question. But I appreciate the question. Yeah. Do you have a follow up, Zach? Do you hit the tweeners on the pickleball court or are you usually just forehand backhand? Forehand backhand. Got you. Yeah. Keep it real simple. I just try to keep it in play and make the other person make a mistake. That's really the whole point. That's really smart. Just like ping pong. Yeah. That's it. All right. Well, Max. Thank you. Thank you. Great having you stop by and everyone do check it out. It's a great event. 10 to 2. 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Whether you're training, traveling, just feeling the heat, or cheering on your team. Work hard. Hydrate hard. Body Armor Flash IV. Grab it at 7-Eleven. Hydrate up. Body Armor Flash IV. Okay. Let's wrap up the show. Fire Fest of the week. My pre-Fire Fest is I'm going to miss the fuck out of Max for the next two weeks. Two weeks is a long-ass time, dude. Yeah. Unlimited vacation. Take advantage. Yeah. Hank, your Fire Fest. My Fire Fest is that I think I'm in the clear, but this morning I was very close to getting fish scammed by my mom. Oh, what happened? All Business Pete put her up to it? He was the first person I texted. I woke up, checked my phone, and had an email. That's a bad day when the first person you text is All Business Pete. I had an email from my mom, and it was like an invitation. And like, I don't know where. I got a family wedding coming up. I didn't really think about it. It was like from my mom's email, an invitation. I clicked the link, and then the link didn't load. So I like exited it out. And then I saw. Like, my phone was on do not disturb, so I didn't see the text messages from my mom. Like, texting my family being like, don't open an email for me. I got hacked. And at that point, I'd already clicked into it. I did not put my information in, so I think I'm in the clear. But we do so much fishing training, and there's so many scams going on that I'm pretty good at besides the toll one. And so that was just a tough morning where it's not coming from work or anything. It's from within. It's from the fam. Yeah, that's tough. Because that's definitely one that you would fall for. Yeah. Yeah. You got to have a code word. What do you mean? Like, if it's actually me, I'll say this code word. What do you mean? Like, with your parents. Well, it's just an email. It was an email. I know, but in the email, they could use a code word if it's real. Every email has to have a code word in it. Sign off with a code word. Yeah, I think I'm good. But if you see. All right, sorry to help. If there's anything that comes up this weekend, I may. Or may not have gone. What was the email? Was it Spotify? Was she asking you to vote for her? No, it was an invitation. Oh, that's fucked. And like, we had like a going to like a wedding in September, like my cousin's wedding. So I just like kind of assumed it was somehow tied into that or something. I don't know. That's fucked. Okay. PFT. My Firefest. It's tied into what I talked about on Wednesday's show. Jerry O'Connell is now officially back in. Okay. The fantasy group for the draft planning, which is great because he's doing this fancy preview with us next week. And the draft is coming up very shortly here. So I introduced him. First of all, I finally got a call back from him at like 5 p.m. The day that we record that show. Turns out Jerry got a new phone. Oh. And it's also an Android. Of course. Deep web shit. It automatically kicked him out of that group chat. I don't know why. So he got the new phone. I reintroduced him back. I was looking back through the history of this group chat for the last like two weeks. It's been blue dots. People have been emphasizing things. Oh, yeah. Everyone's free to do whatever they want. We've had a fantastic time in this group chat over the last two weeks. I dropped Jerry back in there and immediately turns green. I had to apologize. Sorry about the green bubble. We had some nice blue ones there for a while. And so immediately Jerry jumps back in, starts spamming the group chat with pictures of him with celebrities. And now he's trying to say that we can't raise the buy-in for the team this year. Direct quote, guys, please do not raise the buy-in. A lot of my Pokemon cards have lost their value. And then people replied like, LOL, crying face. And Jerry goes, not a joke. So Jerry's trying to talk them off of raising the buy-in. I want to raise it. We'll raise it. We'll fund it. We can raise it. We'll fund it. It's not a problem. I already told him that I'm willing to foot the bill. So Jerry's back in the group chat, and he's, as Jerry does, dominating, which means that there's just a shitload of green coming across. And it's just Jerry making lines. A lot of jokes. Yeah. Just cracking a lot of jokes. And so that's been blowing on my phone. But I'm glad that we are back in. Yeah. Problem solved. Fuck yes. Fuck yes. We're back. Okay. I've had a pretty good week. I mean, the book launch has been awesome. Thank you, everyone who's bought. Can I give you a Fyre Fest for the book launch? Yeah. Big Cat has kind of, like, dubbed himself customer relations at Target and Barnes & Noble now. What do you mean? When you're like, I talk to people. They're out of books right now, but they should be getting some back in. Well, no, I went there. Yeah, in the next couple weeks. Yeah, I went. I went. And I was like, because I like going and signing it for people. And I went to Barnes & Noble. They're like, it's all sold out. I was like, fuck, when are you getting more? What are you going to say? Memes. I got a DM. Are you signing these with pens from inside the Target? Oh, yeah. I opened up a Sharpie pack and then just left it. Yeah. Someone said there was just a. I realized that after I meant to go pay for the Sharpie pack, the Sharpies. And then I was like, I was late to the. Shoot we had yesterday. And then as I got there, I was like, oh, fuck. I didn't pay for the Sharpie. It was one single Sharpie in a pack. My bad target hand up. But I did. I did sign those books. But yeah, it's been fun. Thank you. Everyone who's bought. Keep buying. We really appreciate it. The guy who pointed out that we, I think it was in the ninth page. I opened up a parentheses and never closed it. So everything past the ninth page is a clarification of the first eight pages. That's the part of my book difference. Including this podcast. Yeah, everything there. But yeah, my fire fest. I bet. Yeah. Great. We got the big check. That was cool. Brought my own big check. I am a little like winning two times on 50 50. I now expect to win, which is a ridiculous thing in my head where I was like, yeah, I'm going to win again. So then I get a little bummed out. But my real fire fest is we went. So we're at the internet invitational last week. We flew back on Thursday. We actually flew back with our good friend, Andrew Santino. And Zach got to meet Andrew. Santino talked to him. I was like, Zach, ask him anything. I found out afterwards. Zach didn't ask him everything he wanted to ask him. What? Turn on your mics. It's a big cat. What do you say to Max? We might have to put Zach on the couch. So you hear his reaction. Yeah. He turns to me and goes, you're the worst guy. Yeah. I thought maybe that we could work this offline. I didn't bring this online. I don't really know. We're talking about Andrew Santino. Bad friends. Great show out on all platforms. Apple, Spotify, YouTube. Great guy. And Santino. Shout to him. All right. So I won't get into details. But if you were to say you can't pick Bobby or Andrew Santino as your favorite parts of the bad friends podcast, what would be your third favorite or one first? I'll go with the fancy in the booth. Oh, to him. Great guy. Wait, he's a film producer. Does a lot of fun videos. Who else is in the booth? I think they have like a three man booth. All men. Yeah. The booth. Yeah. A lot of men in the booth. Yeah. They have a booth. Do they have any producers? They got they got reoccurring guests. I think the lady who plays in the band on Kill Tony is reoccurring once upon a time. What about the girl who's obsessed with eating on crustables that we could maybe have you go out on a date with? Oh, no. She sits on the inflatable couches. That's not the booth. Oh, yeah. Great show. What a show. You guys should all check it out. It's a great show. I don't know. She loves. I'm crustables. Great. I will say great snack choice. Yeah. I'm crustables. Fantastic sandwich. You have great eyes. I've got a I actually have a I don't know if I have any more because I did move. I did have an uncrustable puncher, so I could make a crust was at home. Oh, you had your own. Yeah. They make ones. You can just punch them out. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. So you could do with ham and cheese and peanut butter and jelly. Sounds like you guys would make a great couple. I great show. They run a great program there. We've got quite the program here. And we're friends with each other. Yeah, that is true. Yeah. We do a collab. Yeah. Okay. Shout out to thanks to be a bad friend. Yeah. Shout out to guys. Santino, Bobby. What's her name again? Rudy Jewel is her name. Yeah. Rudy Jewel. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out her as well. And everyone in the booth. But everyone on the inflatable couch. Are we shouting her out equally? Yes. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody on the program. Great show. How big of a shout out should Rudy Jewel get? You tell us. He just says such funny stuff off mic. Of course he does. What did he just say? He said, my fire fest of the week is fucking max. Yeah. It is. It's max. What did Max do to you? Listen, this is what I, I didn't know he was bringing this to the show. This is what, I'm going to point this out. We're here. I'm going to point this out. We are here. You're an untrustworthy member. On the booth. On the car. No, this booth is not safe. And it's 99% of the reason is you. I was trying to help. We get into the car on the way home from the plane. And Zach goes, I was thinking the whole time of how I could ask if she was single. That's not what happened. See, now we're taking facts. And then he was. But then he was like, I didn't, he was like, I never got there. I was like, we can make this happen. I'll text big cat who will text Santino. And all of that was supposed to be offline. But then you think you can bring it to big cat? Yeah. All right. No, but he brought it to me. And then I did call. I called Santino and I said, Hey, and since, you know, is a massive fan of you, Zach. He's like, that was so funny being able to chop it up with him. I was nervous for that. Yeah. I explained to him the situation and he said, bring it up on PMT so then we can play it on bad. Friends. And we can have a little exchange back and forth. So that's what this is right now. I had no idea of any of this big cat. I had no idea that any of this was happening. He had no idea. All I did was say to Matt. Oh, breaking me loose. Oh, no. James Harden has agreed to a new three year, $97 million contract with the Cavs. Oh, all right. Yeah. That was tough. That was a tough reaction. Huge for the Cavs. All right. Yeah. Santino, what do you think about the James Harden extension? Oh, break that down too. Gross. Can we get a zoom in? Does that camera zoom in on Zach's beautiful eyes? Unfortunately not. Zach, can you just look at the camera though? Go on, PT. See what happens to Rudy Jules. Go sit on the couch. Go sit on the couch. Go sit on the couch. Oh, yeah. She sits on the couch. You sit on the couch. Yeah, go sit on the couch. There's a pretty cool kind of inflatable. Ours is more standard, but. Dude, this would actually be like huge if we. If we just. He just goes, I hope it rains in Italy. If we combine two podcasts through marriage, it would be incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Consolidate power. That's how they used to do it back in medieval times. Have a seat, Zach. Zach. Look into the camera. Show the baby blues off. Show the baby blues off, Zach. Looking great. Good show, guys. Yeah. Numbers? No, you have a fire first. Look at the camera. Oh, yeah. Look at the fire. Look at the camera. See it? Nope. You know where it is. There it is. You look good. Two con. You're happy Max is going on vacation. Yeah. Listen, the way that came up is we. We were on the plane. We were chopping it up as guys do in travel. Andrew's asking dating questions. He's like, oh, Max, what a bummer. I should have. That was like a perfect segue to just shoot the shot via Andrew. Yeah, because he was asking you about your dating life. Yes. And all I said to Max. I definitely said to Max in like a not hot mic situation. But now we're here. Yeah. Fuck Max. Yeah, fuck Max. No, shout to Max. I hope you have a great time in Italy. You just said you hope it rains. Yeah. But yeah, that's. But it's a. Because it's so wet. But it's a honeymoon. You guys aren't going outside. It's a sex vacation. Yeah. You want to be inside. Not a sex vacation. Sex in the rain probably pretty cool. You're having a sex vacation. Culture vacation. Yeah. Max and Zach, you also have a little bit in common. Your fire fest is fucking Max. There's a bit of that going around for the next two weeks. Isn't the culture of Italy having sex? The horniest people in the world. That's not true. Okay. So. Meatballs and sex. This good thing sounds awful. This is a good thing. Yeah. Croissant, sex, maybe conception. Okay. That could be cool. Oh, wow. Pod baby. He's wishing a baby on you. All right. But this is a good thing, Zach, because now we have the. Wishing a baby on a man on the honeymoon is crazy. It's a beautiful thing. You start a family. Little Max. Rudy Jules is going to see this. He's going to be like, hey, this guy is funny. He's got great eyes. They call little Max men. Great nickname. Great nickname. Do you have a fire fest? Yes, sir. My fire fest of the week is just my neighbors may or may not be having the most sex possible. Oh. Like, my neighbors are fucking boys. And it's like. Wait, wait. What? There's a. I'm not fucking. My neighbors are fucking. No, but when did you. That could be a very bad. Oh, I was saying. Yeah, that's. I didn't put a comma in the speech there. That's on the comma. Not a grammar pod. Sorry. Not a grammar pod at all. It just happened. They're like. They're having way too much fun. They are just. With adults. Is this though? Yeah. Them two. That's crazy. Yes. Two consensual adults in the apartment next to me. Do you live in on the island? It's like a contact sport to run in there. Like, these two are running Oklahoma drills with orgasms, PFT. It's unreal. Big Cat, are you taking questions? yes sir floors are open to queues um so you're listening to your neighbors having sex you aren't it's being forced upon you yeah well not but look what they do in their own space is their business but it's like audibly i have a two-part question okay is it hot i don't know i have no but they're having a great time what are they good looking have you listened i have no choice how do i like knock on the door no solo have you gone are you asking if i'm pulling a cuck move with my no are you jerking off to listen no no no i'm usually headphones in have you thought about it though no no okay all right if anything it's like damn so there are people just out there having so much sex see rudy jules great guy i think uh technically you're participating in threesome every time that happens yeah that's not true we just square footage wise we're close yeah real but there's a wall have you seen the neighbors installation i haven't no i haven't run into them at all oh because this could change everything what if they are hot that's the thing i don't they like that's what hot people do right just have sex all the time so like i thought maybe they could be but uh yeah shout to them i mean it's it's weird times too like usually it's like nighttime but we get home late sometimes and i've been just like into bed like our time to go to bed throw the youtube on get a snack you guys are fucking at 3 a.m they they wait for you that's that can't be the case that is absolutely the case they wait to hear your door closed then they're like he's home now we'll give him a show well then that should be a crime they shouldn't be able to do i don't disagree but just so you know you that is that's what's happening but it's also been like i've been folding clothes on the bed like middle of the day weekend and they're just like having the time of their lives are you are you hearing more of like a furniture sound or is it the people's voices no pft i'm hearing body contact thwacking like it's a joint practice you're hearing thwacking like skin on skin are you hearing and also shout to that guy because it sound like a tennis match it sound like yeah the tennis match it does definitely going on yeah yeah wow are you you're hearing this oh look oh is that what it sounds like oh well congratulations to that guy and that couple oh but i will say that the middle of the day thing made me think it was wasn't on the up and up like it was like like adultery i'm maybe i'm thinking too far into it but i don't know so yeah my fire fest of the week is just uh i'm sorry jack i didn't mean for this i didn't mean for this to go online i promise i didn't that's a very fair fire fest i'll get max it just on the it just doesn't here right yeah but i didn't nobody listens to the show you're fine yeah you're good numbers we're totally good all right numbers five five fifty five five three sixty three see you in court eight five i'm sorry i'm gonna go with 74 i'm all it's hitting 91 eight for colton colton won eight so if this goes 69 we're gonna it's gonna be devastated 88 88 one i'm on five i'm on eight one 60 anyone 60 60 60 not 69 all right one more last one three last one see you max love you i'll be back soon are you gonna bring his presence yeah oh yeah for sure sorry travels i'm sorry i didn't i didn't mean for this to happen what if lebron gets traded that's why i'm bringing my microphone it's a good man just in case oh 97 oh love you guys happy birthday to alex cooper and sister gene nice what a duo big two r.i.p sister gene r.i.p also happy birthday to will chamberlain might be zach's neighbor is this blue chamberlain happy birthday to adam theelin and happy birthday to you do a lipa and bill parcells love you guys forget anyone i don't think so but maybe you can tell me no i have no idea okay but i i like that you just questioned yourself when i said that i said i don't think so no questioned but then you said why don't you tell me yeah it's not like he had something to say i'm sorry i got nothing to say sorry zach i'm sorry Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.