Matthew And Brady Tkachuk, Taylor Twellman Talking World Cup, USMNT Sucks At Soccer Again + Mt Rushmore of Aquatic Animals

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That was the most embarrassing goal that I've ever seen possible. He did the young way coup. He just couldn't kick. He hit the ground. And that was a knock against Matt Turner, too. His play with his feet is known for being pretty poor. So we thought maybe with Matt Freeze, he might be better at that. Absolutely choked that one. And then Tim Rehm decided to just jump out of the way of the ball when they shot it at the net. Really, really bad. Four to one, I would say, doesn't even really do it justice. I would say in the PFT expected goals category, I had Belgium six, point five. And we had a goal. Malik Tillman, maybe the only guy that showed up yesterday and seemed like he was playing with his hair on fire. Still love that guy. Christian Pulisic, the long anointed Captain America, future face of this league for American soccer. Absolute no show of a game. I would say worse than a no show of a game. And then he checks himself out. Just looks lackluster. Looks like he doesn't care at all. Had the most turnovers on the field. He's got a lot of good players. He's got of anybody that played just really really really bad as as disappointing as i've ever seen as disappointed as i've ever been in u.s soccer after this game losing getting our ass kicked by netherlands in the last world cup we at least played harder that's the problem is like we looked like we weren't even playing hard no imagination no no uh no pace on our counter press it was just bad all around there's really nothing good that you can take out of that game at all at all besides malik tillman played pretty good at times um really nothing that you can take out of that game it was a failure of a world cup yeah i said i said before it started we have to get to the round of we have to get to the uh the quarterfinals bare minimum and we beat we beat we people were making very mean jokes online that we were james franklin uh penn state james franklin and it is actually perfectly appropriate because if you look at who we played we beat the teams beat we we lost to turkey now obviously that game maybe we weren't playing all of our starters but still we lost to turkey they're ranked around us and then we absolutely got ass fucked by the team that was better than us in belgium we are we are not who we thought we were no that that's actually literally what i said about the u.s before this tournament was that we were penn state okay we're penn state football like that has been the perfect comparison of penn state football we play every time we you know what like for the longest time all you've needed to do in the united states is like beat mexico once every two years and maybe that's just what we're going to do maybe that's just the future of u.s soccer it's like we'll beat mexico once every two years we'll uh barely make our way out of group stages most of the time unless it's on home soil then we'll put together a team that looks pretty good um we'll barely make out of the group stage might beat an inferior opponent might take a good team to extra time but when it when the rubber meets the road we play against a group stage and we're going to win the group stage and we're going to be a good team from europe they're just going to put it down our throat and that's just what's always happened it's probably what's going to continue to happen and every four years that's okay i'll keep shoveling that shit into my own mouth i will fall for it i will i will overdose on copium i will get very excited about u.s soccer and i'll be disappointed again four years what do you say about the golden generation because this was we we had a disagreement a few months ago like when we well actually it was whenever we got uh poach as the coach and i was we keep switching coaches maybe our players just suck and i all i heard was oh well pulisic plays for chelsea and all these guys are really good and it's the best we've ever been it's definitely not the best we've ever been we've been better we've gotten further we sucked no so that's that's the thing is from a talent standpoint you can't just throw out the rest of the top leagues in the world and their scouting departments and say they have no idea what they're doing because they do have u.s players on their team so the talent is there it's definitely the golden generation yeah this is what i'm talking about this is what i'm talking about this is what i'm talking about i was told this is the time that's what i'm saying is like you can't say that the players aren't physically gifted and talented they have the the you know they're assigned to the best teams sometimes certainly in the top leagues in the world so like you can say that you know the the club teams in syria don't know what they're doing but they they think that our players are talented enough they just mentally just shat the bed like there's something about the toughness that we lack i don't know what you can say about that i thought poach overall did a good job coaching this team and we did look good against paraguay uh who ended up going on to beat germany and then you know they played well in the knockout stages so they're you know not a bad team we didn't get anywhere further than we've ever gotten disappointment huge disappointment so i don't know if you can say you did a good job i still stand by the fact that like the players from a talent standpoint should be with the exception of like you know we have a 39 year old center back and he's playing an mls but um our captain our captain our captain our captain yeah just that was hank there yeah that was hank listen there's there's no excuse for like the mentality that we had yesterday i just don't i just been told this is a golden generation we just got to the exact same spot and got embarrassed that's what i've just been saying is like we're just going to keep nothing's going to change no matter how good we think we're going to be we're going to keep keep overdosing on the copium and it's it was really it was it was a bad performance as as disappointed as i've ever been in u.s soccer given we had every reason to be excited about this team too we did they played well in the group stage we we beat the teams we should have been we lost it like we played okay we played okay in the group stage right but we we we and then beat the teams that we should have been which doesn't always happen with u.s soccer like across the board look back to the world cups like we don't always beat the teams that we should beat and we never beat them in like just a a physical like beat down fashion that we did against australia and against paraguay who granted aren't the best soccer teams in the world like we can't do that shit against european teams we've seen that time and time again uh but there was reason to have excitement about this team and then just to have a just a complete clusterfuck of a game like that sucks ass i do feel like the fact that it was being held in the united states people were watching these other teams being like oh we're in this too like we can make a run at this if this was being held like we know like it wasn't qatar i don't think the people were convinced that this team was like really good and gonna make a run just because it was happening around them so much i'm like oh this world cup's in the u.s where the u.s were in this like we can beat these teams it was i mean it was fun it rooting for your country's fun it was a fun ride until it wasn't i my Thing is, I feel like it's just deja vu all over again where it's every four years we do this. And then the think pieces come out being like soccer is too expensive and we don't have enough guys, kids playing. What if we just suck at soccer? Like, we just suck at soccer. That's okay. We have so many fucking awesome things. We're dominant in football. We're dominant in basketball. We're dominant in baseball. Well, we didn't win the World Baseball Classic. We're dominant in hockey. We have awesome sports. We have March Madness. We just suck at soccer, and that's okay. I don't think that we suck at soccer. Oh, we suck at soccer. No, I think you would say that if you get bounced in the group stage, you absolutely suck at soccer. We suck at soccer. We are a massive. A country as big as ours with the resources that we have, we absolutely suck at soccer. We massively underperform at soccer is the way I would put it. That's a nice way of saying we suck at soccer. Massively underperform at soccer. Come on, BFD. We suck at soccer. I think you guys want to be more critical of this team than I am, but you can't. You can't beat me at this. Well, I just was because I said we suck at soccer, and you said we don't. Well, you can't beat me at this because I am so much. I literally said we suck at soccer. I am so much more pissed off about how this team performed than you guys will ever be. That is, yes. Agreed. I couldn't agree more about that. That's absolutely true. You guys cannot beat me at this one. If it's a competition of who's the most upset, you win for sure. Yes, I am definitely the most upset. Yeah. It sucked. That shit sucked. Fuck that. U.S. soccer sucks. You're right. Fuck it. Yeah. I just think Belgium has 11 million people in their country. Yeah. It's Ohio. We suck at soccer. We can't be outclassed by Ohio. It's not even one of the top three Belgium teams of the last 20 years. And it's our best team ever. This shit sucks. We suck. We suck at soccer. This shit sucks because we suck. We say we suck at soccer. We suck at soccer, but I'm going to fall for it again in four years. I'm going to trip over my dick in four years, right in time for the World Cup, and be like, this year it's going to be different. And I'll be excited about it. And then we're going to get throated again. My take is we suck at soccer, and that's okay. I don't care that we suck at soccer anymore. I'm going to root for the U.S. team. I'm going to get excited when we're in a World Cup. I'm going to get hyped up, and it's going to be fun to watch. And then I'm going to be reminded that we suck at soccer. And then it's just going to be like, okay, yeah, that's okay. We suck at soccer. We have so many other things going on. I disagree that I do care that we suck at soccer. I agree that we suck at soccer. I agree with that. I feel like there's just nothing that we can do. That's the thing is we try to fix it every single time. So it's like, what's the definition of insanity? Just doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results. I'm no longer going to expect a different result. I'm going to keep rooting for the U.S. team. But when inevitably every single time we get to the round of 16 and we're reminded that we suck at soccer, I'm not going to be disappointed. I'm going to be like, oh, yeah, we suck at soccer. So where I differ is that I will definitely have my heart broken again. I don't even know. There's going to be like a. There's going to be. We're far away from heartbreak, though. We're so we're so the levels to this. Like Belgium is like the ninth best team in the country. And they just pieced us. There's so many other teams. Spain would have beaten us by 100. Senegal would have beaten us easily with that. So that's where it's like the levels of it is like I can't get upset. We just didn't care. That's that's what I'm pissed off about is the fact that like we looked like we didn't not care. Yeah, no, absolutely. We're passive. The goalie had a Mac football play. Yeah, that was that was the definition of. Action what he did there. Correct. Yeah. The ref view of that goal is like looks like a rec league like JV soccer. And he went to Harvard. It does. And that's the thing that the U.S. has always had. We've always had some of the best goalies in the world. What happened? We've got. Have we? Yeah, we got three hundred four million. I mean, Tim Howard was really, really good. You know, I know. I didn't know that. Well, Tim Howard is really, really good. Brad Friedel was really, really good. Casey Keller is really, really good. We've had very good goalkeepers. And to have Matt Turner and Matt Freeze be the only two options that we had at goalie is. Sounds like. Sounds like we have like good catchers in baseball. We should just have them play baseball. Maybe that's what we should do instead of the conversation being like, how do we get our best athletes to play more soccer? Why isn't Pulisic a fucking wide receiver? He would be sick over the middle. He's got a little wiggle. What? He would be a good wide receiver. He had. Like, let's do the opposite. Instead of being like, hey, we got to get our best football players to play soccer. No, no. Let's just get all the guys that are good at soccer to play like mid-level football, make college football a little bit better. If we want to get our best athletes playing soccer, we're not. Hugo Gonzalez is going to play soccer. We listen. We don't. It's not athleticism either. Like, that's the thing is everyone's like, oh, it's athletic. No, we just suck at soccer. Yeah. We these guys are not. It's not like all these other guys are just monsters outside of a few. Like, they're not beating us with athleticism. They're beating us with skill. We just suck as skill guys. Yeah. Never close the skill gap. USA will never close the skill gap compared to the rest of the world in soccer. Right. Yeah. So it is what it is. So what about that? It's due to a lot of blame. Are you saying anything about the coach? I thought the coach was saying the coach. I don't even understand. I think the coach deserves. Yeah. If you come out looking like that in the most important game in I'm going to say the most important game in U.S. soccer history, the fact that it was a home World Cup game that's never been said before. Hank, he just uses one time to say that. Yeah. Where are we in the like? The final four? No. 2002? No. We're in the quarterfinals. Quarterfinals. Quarters, baby. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the fact that this was on a home field and that it had so much hype going into it. You have to put some of that on the coach. Absolutely. Yeah. If you look like you slept walk through the entire first half. Yeah. That is 100% on the coach. He also didn't get further than any other coach. And he had what I've been told is the golden generation. So like that to me is like, yeah, why would he be a good coach? Like he didn't do anything. Different. He didn't beat anyone. He did do different things with the team. If you want to talk about results. I don't care about the style. And I said going into the tournament that yes, that is it's going to be on the coach because you do have players that should be, you know, the best that we've ever had. And Pulisic just doesn't care. That's what sucks is like a guy like that can't be the face of US soccer. He does not care. He's he's like looking forward to getting his break. He's never really been completely bought. Been on playing in all the tournaments like he doesn't really give a shit. We need a dog out there. He's not a dog. I think this guy, Kevin Sullivan from Philadelphia might be a dog. He like try. He tries to fuck people up. We're doing this again. Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready. But no, that guy had to say was Philadelphia. He got me back in Pulisic. A guy like that cannot be the face of your team because you draw off that. And it seemed like he didn't care. He checked out of two games and he did the same in the World Cup in 2022. He just doesn't seem like he he loves playing for the. U.S. National team, and that's OK, but he shouldn't be playing for the U.S. National team. Hank, I want to hear from you in a second, but I also should say like Belgium should be embarrassed for themselves for the crying they did with the ballagin thing. They were so much better than us. They could have beaten us with 10 guys. They should never have said a word. They should have been like, all right, cool. You guys are going to get government interference to get him to play the game. We don't care. We'll still beat your ass. I would have respected that more. So Belgium, listen, I'm. You won the game fair and square. They were they were mocking Trump in the locker room. That's all fair. You got to be able to do. We talk a lot of shit. They talk shit back. But the fact that they were ever scared of this team is not that is nuts. And also it probably gave him some bulletin board material. It's like it seems like everything stacked against him going into the game. And they're like, fine, fuck it. We ball. Hank, how are you feeling? I mean, I feel I feel sad. I was the first game that I really sat down and watched every second. And it was over from from the second it started. I we had 60 seconds of joy. I had literally 61 seconds like in real time. The game was back. I've had a lot of time in the airport. I had a lot of time thinking about the past few weeks and I have been watching. I know I said I don't like soccer. I feel like I said this in the beginning that the group stages, who cares? But once the elimination games come, it's electric. It's been very fun to watch. Like, it's been very fun to follow the last, you know, two weeks. Last week at, you know, we're at the beach was watching the bar. All different people from all different cultures, room for different teams. A lot of fun. I was excited about the US PFT. I was drinking the Kool-Aid again. Spent a lot of time in the airport was kind of bored. I was like, all right, let's let's lock in. Took PFT's bet on DraftKings was like USA, USA, USA. And within 10 minutes, the game was so clearly over. It was terrible. Yeah, that's that's what happened. And that's always going to happen. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, that's the we suck at soccer. I think it's fine for people to, like, get excited about it. Like, I was like, people in the like people, every single bar in the airport in the Denver airport was like filled with people like excited to watch the game. I think like 95% of people have completely forgotten that game happened like by tomorrow. And they're like, all right, we suck at soccer. Life goes on. Yeah, I'm on to Summer League. No, yeah. You play tonight. I can't believe you're still like really upset. PFT was in his he was he was looking for anything last. Yeah, I was I was hunting dopamine last night. After the game was over because I was I was so, so upset and so pissed. I was more that I was angry about this. So we started just roaming the streets of Tahoe. I was looking for any dope. We got some ice cream. I was walking by a store and Colton was like, would that make you happy if you went and rented that that three wheel spider car? I was like, absolutely. It would. I tried to rent a three wheeler. They said that they don't do it there. I had to go to like a different store. Then I went to the casino and gambled for about six hours last night, which did actually. replace the dopamine for a period of time um so i was pretty happy about that but no i'm pissed off i can't sugarcoat i'm i'm i'm really really fucking upset at how bad and how how little we cared and we can talk about like a lot of people are doing the hand-wringing over the youth programs and being like what should we do differently it's pointless we do that every four years there's time there's time for that when you lose in the playoffs if you're a football team you lose the playoffs you talk about the guys that fucking sucked on the field you don't talk about your scouting department um well it's terrible max this isn't football like you care about football yeah right this is soccer we don't care about soccer no i'm saying max you see the hypothetical you completely missed the the point of what i was saying okay my did you see the hypothetical that steven chay threw out there that's like would you rather have your team win a super bowl or the u.s win a world cup i think i'd rather have my team win a week seven game you learning that's not true maybe maybe but make it was the packers yeah if it was the cowboys it would be electric if we won the world cup but the super bowl versus world cup is not even no yeah super bowl super bowl if we had won two more games i would have taken back every single thing i said and been like this team is legit and like we're we're a soccer power but it wasn't we weren't even we didn't even qualify for the world cup that's we were gifted an entry to the world cup we didn't even qualify for the world cup because we were hosting the party it's like all right yeah like you're having the party you can come to your own party and then they gave us our cupcake group stage and it was also an expanded field like everyone like everyone everyone got out of the group that's my i mean we already did the the who who who's most upset off pft won that easily i i i i like rooting for the u.s men's national team it was fun the way we lost to a team like belgium who's not even like one of the top four teams in the in the in the world it's just the levels to it like you just see that and you're like okay cool we're so far away you can't we're basically a team we're basically like a an 11 seed that won a play-in game and then they played and then they played maybe they won even the second round game then they played a uh like an actual like top 10 team got beat by 20 and you're like all right cool we were never even close to a final four like that was never in the realm of possibilities it is crazy though because portugal lost uh i don't know i don't know i don't know messi is losing right now as we speak two to one to egypt which is crazy so like they're weird stuff happens in soccer this was not a weird stuff happens game this was a vastly vastly superior more prepared opponent than we were that's it it was just what are you gonna say max we saw the goalie thing was weird that we saw that had to have been that can't be normal in soccer for like any professional level so here's the thing max is like sometimes with goalies they become goalies because they're not really that good and they're not really that good and they're not really good in the field and they don't really practice that much using their feet we've got two guys that kind of fit that description and yeah it was why was he out there so sometimes you got to come out and but he was so far out you can come at you a lot of goalies do come out that far and and yeah i know the ball but i mean it was it was a simple play and you can't fuck that up do you think are you what are your thoughts about uh hank in general i need some more dopamine what that was an all-time hank face yeah messi just scored we're going to talk about it after this but yeah what does this have to do with me all right my thought all right here are my thoughts on hank because i was into hank's credit he hasn't really done this yet he's probably thought about it but i thought we were going to see hank wheeling in the straw man that he's been building for the last three weeks to be like i was told that we were going to win the world cup which is not something that i've ever said um so i'm pleasantly surprised you're going to win the world cup with hank so good job fair play to hank you haven't said that yeah i know i thought that you would say like i was told that we were good enough to win the world cup i've known this that like i've been well aware of where the u.s is hashtag hank was right the whole time i've just been laughing when it's senior but this has been a thing for like three years my issue again like i the world cup is fun like i have enjoyed the world cup i know i said that beginning like i don't care about soccer world cup entertaining yeah good summer summer entertainment the knockout games are electric star players all that stuff we're not even part of the world cup in my mind but the problem is going to be in like somehow it's going to happen in like three months like i don't know how it's going to happen it's going to like be like way too quickly we're going to be in like a concaf like yeah sectional against like jamaica and pft's gonna be like oh my god we won four to one like we're back that's when it gets annoying and then it doesn't like it just keeps coming up where it's like i'll tell you it does not matter every time you talk about soccer for the next three years it doesn't matter we i won't i won't talk about soccer for the next three years like are we there's a chance now that we're not hosting the world cup we don't even qualify for the next one they well now they've expanded the field yeah so it's if we don't qualify then within they should just never play soccer i mean we've only missed qualifying for the world cup one time since what 1990 uh so it's not like we have a hard time qualifying usually we did fuck up bad in 2018 i will not like i don't really talk about soccer unless it's the u.s and the world cup so i the only way i'll tell you how they're going to get me back hank might you talk about you talk about like the copa america and like that's i bring up once every like nine months on the show and he's like oh why are we talking about this again um i i'll tell you how they'll get me back they're probably going to hire pep as as the head coach of the national team and it won't matter and if they do that i'll get back in i'll get back in what who's pat that's one of the best coaches of all time and he's he said in the past things that would make you think maybe he wouldn't hate coaching his best friends joe missoula yeah yeah yeah yeah that would get hank back he's joe missoula's favorite coach what's what's his accolades he's got he coached he coached holland all epl champions league but even if we have the best coach of all time we'll never have the guys correct that's my point that was what that was what i was saying like it's okay to just again it's okay to be like excited about the world cup excited to watch u.s men's national team i'm in that camp i was so pumped to watch that game last night it's like hey we're just never going to be on par with the best countries in the world because it's never going to be our number one sport it will never be important enough and it's just it's a reality it's so much further ingrained in those cultures and countries like well the skill gaps too far we'll never keep up uh yeah that's about it we're cooked yeah i will say like i don't this isn't even political but i'm not i'm not a parent but i don't understand i do like hockey is expensive sport and they always talk about like how it's like travel soccer is like pricing on people how is travel soccer expensive yeah i mean it's stupid because it should be the it's soft the people the people that set up the the like travel hockey travel baseball and kind of little more expensive and all that shit yeah yeah the people that set up the youth leagues around america did it in a way to make themselves money when it first started being talked about as like the sport of the future quote unquote back in the 80s and the people that set it up they set up the leagues to benefit them so you have to pay if you want a good coach and not like you have to make somebody's dad that has read a book about coaching soccer you have to pay that guy a lot of money uh the field rentals cost a lot of money the referees um they try to like swag the kids out with cool equipment and bags and shit to make it feel like you're not completely wasting your money but that's that system is completely broken it sucks and i thought poach he talked about a couple weeks ago he's like the reason why we don't have you know the most skilled players in the world is because like all these kids grow up with a soccer ball and they're like oh my god i'm gonna lose my ball at their feet from the time that they can walk and everything about like playing keep away from your brothers or sisters or like your dad tries to get the ball and you just dribble it away from like you've got all those tiny little muscle memories built up because you've been playing soccer since you were like two years old and unless we get every kid in america to do that which we won't um then we're gonna have there's gonna be a skill gap there it's not necessarily about having our best athletes playing soccer although that would help it's just about just having that deep background for each individual player i think i think i think a winner could have gone a long way towards the future of soccer but like no kid was watching that game being like oh yeah no that would have been a huge they had they had even come they like lost in shootouts right let alone if they won that game it's like that's what i'm saying it would have been a pendulum that swung but it swung the wrong way if we had lost in penalties i would have been like i would have actually been disappointed the way we lost how could you even be disappointed it's so it's we're so far away some of the best players on the team didn't even grow up in america yeah yeah all these teams that's how the whole world is we need more of that but it's like how is that even we do need more foreigners to play yeah yeah we need all foreigners yeah we should actually have as few americans as possible right on our american soccer peps won three champions leagues six uh epls pretty good he's his best friend he's he's won three champions leagues with two different teams and he helped the celtics win the nba championship hell yeah a couple years ago so yeah he's so but again zach you're the best player in the world you're the best player in the world it feels like you're with me like the pep it won't matter he can only do so much unless pep can just find a bunch of players that aren't american to be american even coach this year like he goes he gets ac milan job he's a great coach but and it's a golden age of who we have these are the best players for this u.s team that will ever up into this time is our best shot it doesn't matter because like it's so ingrained through generations correct like like say if hank has a kid he loves soccer hank's not gonna be able to teach his kid about the game he's not gonna be able to teach his - He will not. - But if he did, it's just like, there's the game. Gap is too big. It'll never be closed, unfortunately. But again, I'm not saying that Pep is going to make a difference. I'm saying that's the move that they could pull that could bring me back and get me excited again so that I will have my heart broken again. What are the thoughts on maybe just getting all the way behind, rooting for country and not the actual gameplay? Because you know the gameplay probably will end in heartbreak. That's me. I'm rooting for country. And it's the name on the front of the jersey, knowing that we're probably going to be in the exact same spot in four years. Sweet 16 look like shit. The party of the World Cup is fun. Correct. That all the bars get super packed and everyone on the same side. Talking shit. I don't take back any of the shit I talk. No. It's fun to talk shit. It's so fun. When you're just piecing up Bosnia and you're piecing up all these little puppies. And Herzegovina. Yeah. You're just fucking them up. Paraguay, get out of here. It's fun. You see, that's what got me back, was seeing how we played because we've never played like that before. And so I was fully bought in. And Hank was right. It's not going to happen. Can we actually play? Is there a way that we could just play an independent schedule? BYU kind of does this, where it's like if you just play teams that you can beat and then you go to the playoff or you go step up in competition, one time a year you get killed. But let's just stack a schedule. We just win all the time. I think what you're saying is all this countries and we just fuck them up. Because maybe once you have to play, that's the problem. That would actually be worse for us. Belgium is become Notre Dame already would have smoked us become Notre Dame. And we have our traditional game against Mexico every two years. And then we just schedule the worst countries from around the world. We got Americans. We like winning. And that's the worst part about this is that we're competing in a sport that we're never going to win at. So it's like I kind of don't I will take my ball and go home. We got it. We got a home and home against Nepal in the next three years. Yeah. And then every time World Cup qualifying comes around, we just tell FIFA, like, look at these. Look at the numbers that we put up in the last three years. We've we lost two games and we won twelve. Most of them were against Kyrgyzstan. So we should be in the World Cup by our resume that we've put together. Correct. OK, let's do let's talk some more World Cup. We're going to talk about this Argentina game because they just took the lead with 90 minutes in the 90th minute. That is that's the Messi. Messi. Stella Blue Coffee's new can lattes are here crafted with 100 percent Colombian coffee. Each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors, espresso, cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream. 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Thank you. You're not doing PDS, are you? There's no like blue contact lens. No, just like standard from the eye doctor. OK, we were active today on the golf course. I didn't I didn't want to risk the glasses falling off. Yeah, it's almost like icy blue. Put him in sport mode with the contacts. Yeah. So now that we're giving you this compliment, Hank, go ahead. I said I went live last night and they announced there was this list is long. All the people that got accepted into streamer university, people like Chaz Delicious, Cool Butterfly, Suki Mellow, Cooley Tea Shop. Shoddy, Dean Blandino, Cute Guns, King 68, The Great. So pink. Yeah. And Reg too funny. Zachy Blue Eyes. No, Zach. On this list that I know Zach is a great streamer. Zach, you know what? The first question is going to be Mando Millions. Familiar with him? Not not entirely, though, but that might be a different demo. I'm not, you know, where this is about to go. You know, the first question is going to be, do you want to address the first? Question before I even ask it? All that, you know, what's that? You know what? The first question is going to be Zach. Did you actually apply? Yes. Hundred percent application and swear sent in. Swear all the way. Do you have confirmation that on time did? Yeah, I had I had a confirmation photo. I remember sharing to Max. I can find in my camera. You had about 40 minutes left to submit a video. That was the other night. And you I don't think I had to finish the video. OK, I can find it. Did you finish the video on time? Yeah, I got it in. I have a screenshot. That was where did we go? So you and Jill and Brown both got rejected application. Yeah, I'm seeing it right now. I definitely put it in. What fee was there to to apply to streamer you? I didn't have a fee to apply. OK, so there's like some rumors floating around online that like you had to pay $3,000 to apply, but that just wasn't the case. So you why didn't you get accepted? A lot of grades. A lot of great people applied. I didn't get accepted. They should do like it. They should do an exit interview with you. Like, I want to know why you didn't get in. That would be nice if they said, hey, if you're looking to get in next year, here's the things that you could improve on. I let Raw Dog Moon in. Raw Dog Moon, I will say it's a big university. I've I never got into a big university before. More of like a community college guy. But yeah, the streamer community college, I would just get universities are easier to get into than smaller universities. I didn't get any big university. No, that's that's on on on the whole. It's that's like ACT, SAT stuff that you know what I mean? Yeah. Do you think there's a chance for you to get your do you get your dad into streaming? So that way you become a legacy streamer? I think I think what needs to happen is like, you know how you get you get your GPA up and then you transfer. I just need to work now on getting my streaming GPA up so that I can transfer a different time. So like, take care of your edge right now. You need to go to like Dr. Disrespects Community College. No, I know. I know what I said. I just I know what I said. I just. I just think head down stream more. I don't know about Dr. Disrespects. Myers-Leonard, Myers-Leonard, you. We just got to head down and work, boys. Didn't get accepted. Shout out to everybody who did, though. It's going to be a super great learning experience. No, not shout out. Fuck them. Fuck Raw Dog Moon. He's actually straight to bank. We'd say that one again. Straight the number two T.H. Bank straight guy rocks straight to the bank. That guy's richer than all. Yeah. It's that guy's that guy's got his paper, right? That's good. Fucking Josh got in. That's an aggressive Josh. Fucking Josh, man. Shout out. Fucking Josh. The U is a V, but. Zach, I think that maybe you need to stream more. I think that that's probably a good start is to get those streaming numbers up. That way, when you apply, they look at your resume and say, OK, he's not, you know, actively trying to start stream because I'm sure they don't want to let people in that say, I want to start streaming. They want people that have shown that they want to do it on their own that, you know, are dedicated to it, that they know will come in and then take the the education that they get, which I'm sure is extremely valuable and put that into practice. That's what I'm saying. Head down, just got three more. Zach, would you? We're lockstep with that. You're 100% correct. You could be more correct. Would you like me to tell you the truth or say nothing? Do you have those options? Oh, always a truth. Yeah, for sure. You don't want me to just say nothing. I. I will. I will. I mean, I'll take it. I'll take truth. I'm insanely disappointed in you. You said you wanted the truth. All right. I understand that. Zach insanely seemed to be Zach. No, I had to throw in insanely. Zach, I want to tell you something. Definitely. I'm not I'm not insanely I'm I'm just pretty disappointed in you. I, I take that. I take what you're saying and I received that and I completely understand. We're not mad. We're not mad. Yeah, I'm just disappointed. To a level that you've never experienced in your life. It's insanity. Insanely. I'm proud of you for trying. I. No, we didn't try hard enough because we didn't get in. So if we would have tried hard enough, we got in. I didn't put enough work into it to even be be considered. And that's on me. I'm disappointed in how hard you tried. I might be more disappointed in you than the time than when your dad had to fire you from the car shop. That was family stuff, though. Yeah, that was. Well, no, that was business. The firing was business. It didn't. It leaked over a little, but not not not too much. Actually, what I like to do when I have a problem that I'm trying to solve is I try to figure out how to how to divide it into small steps. Bite sized pieces and you make a plan and you set goals. So if we're going to try to stream more, what's the goal that we could set? I just got to get a I just got to get in the lab on it. Not only like a regimen base, but also like, yeah, not just going into it to go into it. You got to come in with a plan. You got to come in. How many times a week? Yeah, that's what I'm asking. That's what I'm asking. Thank you. Memes. What's what do you what do you how many times? I think what makes sense? How many hours a week? Let's talk about that hours. What do you think hours? What are you saying? What makes sense? Like, I just make sense for me to not be insanely disappointed in you 15 times a week. I'm trying to think hours. Well, I actually. actually don't care how many hours you stream as long as you get into streamer university like i can't believe that our son didn't even get into college we're not going to pay your rent anymore i hate to say it this is this is you gotta get a job yeah you gotta get a job you gotta go get a job or go to college those are your choices this was tough the first time this is tougher the second time how many hours a week this is how many hours a week can we can we dedicate to streaming zach i could i i don't hear the word i think i don't hear the word could the problem is you're comfortable here rejection seven days in a week i want to hear the words will not could i'm i'm not the best at time management but just does 18 to 20 make sense sure it sounds like you're afraid of streaming you know eight 18 to 20 exactly i want to have a real conversation strong right that was too strong that that's a lot you're saying back it down that's a lot zach max better at time management to me so maybe maybe are you are you scared of streaming no definitely not i'm not scared i'm not scared of my well i'm sensing some fear no i could i could some not not fear no fear no fear what is the source of the reluctance no no reluctance i think we're in there's definitely we're not in a good spot but we can work to get into a better spot okay how about 18 to 20 sounds ambitious that was strong how about how about six six sounds okay i can rip six fifteen i can definitely rip six so we'll ten ten let's say ten even ten let's say even ten ten hours a week yeah definitely that include like i can rip ten you also stream from your house that's what i'm saying i i wanted to make sure that that got you can stream from your house too yeah we just need we need you getting reps yeah certainly and like we're gonna help you out but like if someone if someone else can't do it solo still run the ball yeah yeah solo stream i think you gotta do you gotta have a schedule yes regimen is good schedule routine is good i will say schedule is hard with our schedule like we can't well said put that on a quote card schedule is hard with our schedule that's facts like zach's streaming schedule is hard to make a consistent streaming schedule for zach it is hard to do that with also the part of my take schedule yeah but there's also monday monday wednesday and fridays are not but then sometimes we have an interview like we we would say like okay every monday wednesday after the act yeah but then we have this interview and then you can't do it that yeah zach can i give you uh do you want truth or silence again another option i think i think i think i take the truth because okay just i don't give a fuck about this bullshit streaming school i just want your stream okay i actually don't care that you didn't get in fuck them you know what we're gonna do we're gonna start our own streaming school no i don't want to get in you know he got they rejected my boy i reject them zach's streaming school for kids that can't stream good like starting next year i understand how my current stream my yeah yeah we could pick up like and we'll just get the we'll get the leftovers we'll get the mutants we'll have like you know like some seven-year-olds some old people some weirdos that don't even know how to turn on the camera this is a this is the idea and we'll charge them all i can see how my current streaming resume is rejectable exactly exactly that portfolio it's like anything in life the thing is you gotta build that book you gotta you gotta figure out a schedule yes stick to the schedule and really this is just us saying we think you'd be good at streaming we encourage you to do it more we think you'd be good at streaming we encourage you to do it more we think you'd be good at streaming more in fact we are i'm close to issuing my first command i command you to stream more yeah i can do that 10 hours a week a 10 piece that's a command yeah 10 piece also uh do that the the i comment stance they look hot i did appreciate the comment or a compliment separate book and i'm making a sandwich of compliments on your eyes different chapter it's okay for this book to have a compliment and also maximum disappointment that's okay okay we learned from both okay they call it a sandwich yeah all right hank good good hot seat great hot seat hank uh my cool throwing is novak jokovic yeah yeah he's back won a five hour and 15 minute match at wimbledon still going i think he's on to the quarterfinals maybe semifinals let's go insane insane run for a 39 year old okay good job hank good job hank my first two well my hot seat is actually who's back of the week because i i fucked up who's back of the week on monday ovi is back ovi's coming back to the capitals and he might be back for two years so i said i i didn't talk about ovi at all he said he's coming back his wife said he might come back and play two more years now so i ovi's just gonna have a lifetime contract he can go out on the ice as long as he wants it's gonna stink if he has to play meaningful playoff minutes because that was uh it was not pretty in the playoffs yeah uh the last time we were in it ovi plays hockey to answer your question no i have a more serious question for pfd oh i don't know do you think your wizard's time has cut into your capitals time because i feel like if that was a wizard's that was wizard's news that would not good question yeah that's valid i took my eye off the puck yes yes i've it has and that's the thing is like my brain can only process so many sports at once and now that i've let the things out that's a hundred percent true like earlier this morning i accidentally stole a car and that's that probably has a lot to do the fact that i'm like you just say that for fire fest that's a good that's a good get more into that story okay it probably has something to do with the fact that i am paying more attention to the washington wizards so any mistake that i make it's like yeah well my brain is operating at 80 capacity because i've got i've got wizard stuff floating around in there now but ovi's back that's very cool i love watching him play hockey i also kept the car on and walked away oh we can get into this later we can get in this later that'll be fire fest on friday tune in tune in for bft fire commenter uh also uh well my cool throne is sean payton's imagination yeah god damn does this guy have an imagination uh there's a seth wickersham article that came out it talks about it was a year that he spent with sean payton and sean had this idea he never he never brought it to the brass at the broncos but he was considering it he wanted to cuck himself coach cuck and hire bill belichick to be the head coach of the broncos until he got 15 wins and got the all-time wins record from don schula and then sean payton would have demoted himself to being offensive coordinator to help belichick get up to 15 wins and then he would have retaken over he probably he should have had the holiday in chair on the sidelines up in the booth coaching from the cuck chair yeah it is it's crazy that this was an actual plan or a thought that he had um this is one of the more harebrained schemes of all time but god damn i wish it happened yeah that's i'm so upset about it like i got mad when uh when kyle shanahan came out and said that if the niners had made the super bowl that one year where the eagles kind of asterix beat them in the nfc championship game that he was going to have phil rivers come out of it out of retirement for one week and play the super bowl i'm pissed off that i know that because now i'm just like god damn it i wish that it happened that's what i'm thinking about the belichick broncos yeah situation yep yeah uh also would have been funny if belichick then fired sean as head coach yeah i mean you would have the right you're gonna make him head coach yeah he would add the right he's gonna be hank what would you have felt about that i would have loved that i mean that's a that's a that's a bro move yeah i've ever heard one and belichick deserves to be the all-time win leader so that what do you mean deserves was participation bro trophy what are you talking about deserves he just deserves it oh for everything he's done for the game of football but i mean dodd schula did a lot for the game of football too also wouldn't the most deserving one be the one who did it hey there's still time i believe he deserves it i think i think we'll get there i don't think belichick would would agree with you on that yeah no he actually would say you're a pussy yeah okay his words not mine yeah that was bill belichick don't get mad at us not us i think i wish this had happened really i feel like you would have been upset by it when brady played for the buccaneers you weren't like belichick coaching for another nfl when brady played with buccaneers what i'm just saying like it's well wait wait what what how did i feel about that well you were probably missing that he was the that used to be the quarterback of the patriots we talked about it like every week on this podcast i was like i'm rooting for brady i know but he got you but ideally he just got you you would want him to be the quarterback for your team but you just like did the thing where you invented how i feel yeah and you're like oh and brady played for the bucks you hated that never never take a step back you should have hated that he's got it yeah it's it's it's very rare but yeah he's got you in the corner but not with it he's beaten you but big cat do you agree with what i'm saying that like seeing belichick coaching for a different yeah he like this guy kind of weird right it would be weird but he did just checkmate you because he he's saying he would root for belichick always okay all right he got you all right it's okay i think for me i wish it happened me too yeah he did say he him too he would he would have liked that too all right my hot seat is hank um because chris middleton's on the wizards and that's a great signing the avengers yeah that's a great signing that's a great sign really good good value too great value listen keep the same energy you had for the trey young contract when we make a good investment and a quality veteran that's what i'm saying also my hot seat is zach because of streamer universe no uh zach you're good Zach, you're good. Zach, you're good. Yeah, we're good. Zach, we're going to keep this in between the white lines. I already got a plan. We're going to put it together. Since we last spoke, Zach, tell me this. Actually, I just woke up from a coma from Sunday night. Oh, I can't wait to watch Ronaldo in his next World Cup game. Oh, that's great. You just woke up the other day. He gets to play Spain soon. No, no, no. I'm waking up right now. I fell asleep on Sunday, woke up right now. And where are you at globally? What time zone? Right now, right here, in this moment. Hey, I haven't seen any sports in the last two days. When's Ronaldo play again? The Saudi League kicks up here in a couple weeks, maybe a couple months. Oh, okay. Well, all right. Well, at least Messi's still in, right? Yeah, I think Argentina may have won today. Yeah, yeah. Incredible game. They did win. They did win. Incredible game. Some really good goals in that game. Possibly rigged, Zach? Argentina being down 2-0 and then, oh. Unfortunately, no. No, not possibly rigged. The Egypt coach is gone in all time. Yeah. Here's what I'll say, though. Great media tour. Here's what I'll say. The good news about Argentina winning, incredible game. The header to go ahead with, like, five minutes left in the game. They score three goals, like, rapid succession to stave off elimination. The one good thing is it's not like I Show Speed was there saying that he somehow distracted Messi on his penalty kick that got saved. He was right behind the net. Oh, he was there. He got fucking owned again. It was a great save, though. And to fully answer your question, you'll never see Ronaldo on the world stage again. He said he's gone. He'll have the next world cup. Yeah, the Euros, I guess maybe. Portugal. I mean, Spain does. They don't have to qualify. So I'm going to think about three Euros. A lot of guys compare that to the World Cup. Or like Max's lunch. Mm-hmm. He'll never sandwich Joe. It's good, though. It was sad. It was tough. It was. So I looked up the quotes from their head coach. This is about as nuclear as a coach can go after a game. OK. So he said, we look better than the reigning champions, better in everything. But the result was influenced by internal factors on the pitch and external factors off it. Perhaps they wanted to keep the world champion in the competition. Perhaps they wanted Messi to stay in the running. In football, there are sometimes external factors that go beyond the technical aspects. The world champion receives support. The world champion receives support at every level. OK. There seem to be pressures from the Argentina side on this outcome. And they objected to the selection of the referee. We haven't seen respect. We haven't seen fair play. I want to put it in beautiful words and say hard luck. But we have been treated unfairly. And it has been an injustice. Whoa. FIFA rigged? There's a lot of examples of them kind of riding for Messi. Today wasn't one of them, I don't think. OK. There we go. That was really nice. That was a great game. It was an awesome game. Awesome game. The VAR thing did suck, though. Yeah. To take back a goal, what could have been one of the best goals in the history of the World Cup, to pull that back because of a foul that took place 90 yards away from the goal that the referee missed. I don't know where we're going with VAR. But we need to reign it in. Yeah. We need to reign in VAR. It's gone too far. Yeah. OK. My cool thrones, I have two. The first is the Big 12. Actually, I should say the Monster Energy. Big 12 conference because they signed a deal today with Monster Energy. And now they are going to be referred to as the Monster Energy Big 12 conference. That's real. I love this. That's real. I love it. It's going to be patches on all their jerseys on the field. Sure. It's perfect. What a perfect conference for it. Isn't it crazy? Well, football needed more money. The Monster Energy Big 12 conference. Please refer to it by its given name. Yeah. So is the Sun Devil like the pitchfork? Is that just going to be the Monster logo? I don't know. That would rock. It's crazy. ASU is probably the most Monster Energy University. Listen, I saw the numbers. I don't know if they're getting paid enough for this, but it is in the concept of it is smart in the fact that if you want your conference to do better, just sell everything. Everyone gets a piece of it. They can go get more players. You can be better. You will. Money makes money. You'll get more TV, right? All these things. So smart by Brett Urmak. But yeah, the Monster Energy. What does this mean for the Dr. Pepper tuition giveaway? Or is the Big 12 going to have like, are they going to have Monster Energy giveaways? I don't know. I don't know. That would be pretty cool. And if they ban the underhand toss, that could, that levels the Big 12 up a step in my mind. Yeah, it could. And then my other cool throne is ABS because it's doing its job. We have seven umpires that have formed the MLB that they will be accepting their buyout and retiring at the end of 2020. So all the umpires are basically like, yeah, this kind of sucks because we're getting shown up for actually sucking CB Buckner, Laz Diaz, Lance Barksdale, some of the guys that are deciding to retire. So legends. Good job, ABS retirement tour for getting the old guys out for Barksdale. Yeah, it's good. It's good. All right, Zach. I think you are correct. The hottest seat in the world today was anyone who wanted to see Portugal win because Spain was a tough pool when it comes to bracket. They fought hard. I will say another hot seat maybe got today would have to be guys who try to live forever because unfortunately, the gentleman who does do blood transfusion with his son and spend $5 million on a company to try to live forever. He's currently sick. Oh, no. That's a hot seat. I feel bad. He dedicated his whole life. His stomach's eating him? He's got an incurable autoimmune disease. I've seen online he could just eat meat maybe and it would work again. What do you mean his stomach's eating him? From the inside. I think his stomach is attacking him. Does that mean like, is that like a diet? Could we do that? I don't want to die, but like if your stomach's eating you, then I would assume that your stomach just keeps getting smaller. Also kind of sus to be to be eating yourself, especially when your girlfriend has a perfect pussy. Yeah, medically, which he has told us. I'll say it didn't know the autoimmune disease is uncurable. This feels a little insensitive now. By who? Us? By me. I feel bad. Oh, I mean, he's made his entire life opening up his own medical books. That's a good point. Great point, PFT. I want to read what he said. He's got a lot of free advertising and publicity for himself on that. All right. I'm going to say something that, listen, I hope if this is real, I hope he, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to see anyone get sick. I don't want to see anyone suffer. Is there a chance, Windy Fingers, that he announces that he has an incurable disease that somehow he cures? I think there's a very good chance of that. Yes. That'd be a good move. That he cures. That would probably help his business. That he cures via some proprietary formula that you too can purchase. Just saying. I hope that's not the case. I hope he's, I hope somehow he finds a way to beat this, but I'm just putting my spidey senses up. That does feel like that's on the table, though. Now that you say it, it definitely makes a lot of sense. Yeah. I didn't really think about it like that. Yeah. So it kind of, kind of tough. Your stomach acid starts eating itself. Maybe eat a little meat, maybe some vegetables and no more blood transfusion with your son. Well, I, I don't like anyone who's like, I'm going to live forever. Like, I don't, like, that's like the one thing that we all know is the universal truth. No one does. Yeah. Impossible. You can't tempt, you can't tempt fate that way. But sometimes, sometimes narcissists have a very difficult time coming to terms with that. And so then they would make their entire personality fighting back against it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You're cool. Cool throne. Guys who like to see fights is, uh, Conor McGregor's back. Yeah. You'll see this weekend. Conor McGregor had a fight in 2021. Oh, what's he been up to? Uh. A lot of boating, maybe some movies. He went on Fallon. I saw that. Very cool. Maybe like, uh. What was the movie? Roadhouse. Roadhouse. Great movie. I don't, I don't, it might've been CGI. I'm not sure how he was that jacked in the movie. He looked huge. If you guys saw that movie. Mm-hmm. Uh. Are you a fan of Conor McGregor? I'm a, I'm a fan of elite athletes. Mm-hmm. And he, he puts on a, sometimes you can put on a good fight. Mm-hmm. I, I, what was it? Pandemic. He choked out Cowboy. That was a good, that was a pretty good fight. Mm-hmm. Instance, that wasn't, that was a flying knee. Nevermind. I apologize for that. That's okay. I'm disappointed. You, Hank, you fucked yourself for the Mount Rushmore coming up. He is, he is in hell. No. Oh, we're good. The confidence is, he also has to cook his dinner. I just wanted to bring up the names that did get accepted. They're very funny names. I wasn't really trying to, to throw Zach under the bus and I kind of feel bad I did, but the names on that list just made me laugh. What was the rich guy's name again? Uh, straight to the bank. Yeah. Straight to the bank. Good hot seat, cool drone. How are you feeling, Hank? You ready for this? You ready for Mount Rushmore? Always. Yeah. Okay. Let's do it. GFT. You got an ad before we get to Mount Rushmore. We'll get to Mount Rushmore in a second. 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obviously didn't listen to the show then yeah yikes it was so we literally said before because you weren't around and max wasn't around to to even the playing field we'd go mano y mano y mano so you just didn't listen to the show and meme said yeah that's fine i'll sit out this one i just i was wondering where memes was that's all you where's me where's memes where's me i'm here i'm here yeah memes are sitting right there and he said yeah that's a smart idea because why would i have a partner and no one else does he also did say where's hank so we did uh mount rushmore of uh aquatic animals no googling yep no googling this one we we felt i think better than the weapons no googling yeah uh r11 r11 thought we had the second pick we're gonna go with the smartest animal in in in the ocean dolphins okay okay interesting zach asked me about where i would put dolphins on my list i think it's a good pick i did say kind of a chick pick dolphins are kind of chick animals dolphins are awesome they are i love them dolphins are awesome they're great very smart i like i like dolphins i think it's a good pick i can only chicks like dolphins just chick vibe i didn't say it i just said i like dolphins they were on our list great yeah i love women and women love dolphins nothing wrong with that traveling packs great hunting techniques yeah when they go over the waves they surf speak like in sonar yep yep they can they've they've saved humans lives yeah dolphins are sick max pulled his visor down over his eyes max why are you uncomfortable right now i'm not uncomfortable i just can't believe i can't believe henry lockwood didn't pick something that i thought was going to get picked okay okay so i'm up yeah you're out well my one one's still on the board so i'm gonna take it the great white shark okay great white shark awesome apex predator kind of like but it's like not they like they don't really kill that many people well they they dominate the water they they are they own the water so we're gonna go specific i'm okay with that sharks or i think yeah i think you can there's there's enough variety in the shark world out there that i'd be okay with all right then yeah we'll go specific we'll go specific too okay all right so our first pick is killer whale uh love killer whales um i learned a fact about killer whales did i share it on this show but orcas yeah killer whales i'm i wanted to say killer whales what's the problem with that i thought they don't you guys went on this entire rant like two weeks ago about how they don't kill people yeah yeah no no they don't kill people they kill other animals got it the whole thing is they don't kill people because they respect people and they only eat the thing they're supposed to eat but sometimes they'll fuck up a sea lion a seal a salmon whatever you want with killer whales are a bunch of killer whales that were trying to fuck up humans like tipping their ships over they do kill people when they're captive which actually is the most badass thing you can do because they get they get put in jail and then they're like fuck this i'm gonna kill all these fat people in sea world it's a great pig i had that that was my second yeah killer will be a slang term or they're synonymous with orca what like would they be orcas would that just be like an offhand like uh way to describe them like are you asking if they would appreciate being called killer whales uh yes i think they probably prefer orcas but okay i just care just like we're not doing the pc thing yeah yeah it's fun names yeah all right yeah all right i'm not the one who said dolphins were chick pics i had your back on door i'm just saying yeah i wasn't even putting it down but you're calling them killer whales okay we could call it orcas what uh what do you guys want to do for the next pick did i do you like what i said i'm good with i'm good with what i just texted either of those what would you say okay just yeah corner of the market okay yeah well yeah i mean it's the biggest the biggest thing in in the ocean the blue whale it's fucking massive hoss absolute beast great pick it's a good pick thank you i love blue whales it's a pretty good pick i do i love blue whales clean the whales clean them okay pft okay uh i'm going to go with my second pick i'm gonna go with hippos we had it on our list massive yep maybe the most deadly animal on this list hippos don't swim that it counts but i'm just saying hippos don't swim they they run around they run yeah i'm just saying that's a fun fact that's how they swim it's just a fun fact to say yeah hippos don't swim they don't they actually don't know how to swim yeah that's how that's how leroy used to swim they run on the bottom of the water he would run with his hind legs on the bottom and then he'd take his front paws and act like he was swimming but he had no idea i feel like when you have young kids you just learn fun oh yeah about animals yeah like no one else it's so sick yeah i mean i i watched it live i went to the to the link park zoo they watched the hippo just he just fucking walking on the bottom hippos are like the most chill looking animal that actually will fuck you oh yeah you ever seen him eat like whole watermelons all at once that's just awesome yeah slow-mo when they crush them that could be your skull oh yeah also i think mudang counts under this pick too uh it's a pygmy hippo yeah i don't know yeah happy birthday by the way mudang okay you guys have two we would like to go with nothing we'd like to go giant squid okay yeah yeah good pick it's a dude pick badass it's a badass pick it's a badass pick uh and then we will go with the bluefin tuna okay okay like delicious tastes great yeah it's great it tastes great it's great like the coolest thing to catch if you're if you're a fisherman like that that bluefin tuna is like you're you know yeah that's that's what you want to catch agree if you fish trophy fish yeah good picks good picks really enjoyed those same all right my next pick i'm gonna go with crocodile okay we had it on our list very deadly have you ever heard the story of gus i think the the crocodile's name was gus the killer croc from i want to say congo i guess how many people gus the crocodile has killed and eaten in his life gustav is his name 7.5 million this one crocodile yeah has not no that's not that's not close okay 300 people oh that's way less than i thought yeah but this one fucking gus is a lot of people as i think it's the animal that's got the most the most confirmed kills of any animal for an individual and he's 71 years old right now um okay gus gus all right we have our last two picks uh the first one we know we're gonna go hammerhead shark yeah love a hammerhead shark they look so fucking cool and also the only shark that i feel confident i could fuck up with is the hammerhead shark hammerheads have a bad marketing i feel like they they were hot when we were kids and you don't hear so much about hammerheads they just look like they're awesome aliens yeah you like see a hammerhead at an aquarium yeah yeah looks cool as hell it's a showstopper it's a panty dropper yeah big time all right boys we got to figure out our last one i don't know what to do i like nine i was gonna say nine do you want to go with nine yeah yeah yeah max no no yeah no yeah all right we're gonna go with uh the octopus the octopus i like the octopus guy's a fucking weirdo out in the ocean yeah um smart very smart i saw that documentary the octopus teacher yeah and i i still eat calamari but i feel bad now whenever i eat it the uh our good friend nick terani has made the the case that the octopus has the worst pr of any animals out there because there just should be they should be kids favorite animal more often yeah because they are like weird and and interesting and smart um but you know kids don't they don't fall on the octopus yeah they don't okay probably it's hard to say yeah and then you can say octopi that's kind of cool yeah all right okay good pick thanks kumbaya kumbaya uh my last pick this is going to be the one that might win it or or lose it for me i love this i'm excited i'm excited mermaids mermaids okay you got the rack they got the rack you're just you're just thinking of tits i'm thinking of tits yeah yeah you're like how can i get tits into this it's a tits adjacent pick yes for sure um but just like a chick that's part fish part chick mermaids aren't real it's okay it's all right i'm all right with him okay yeah all right wow and we also don't know that yeah we haven't explored so much of the ocean the ocean is our next pick was literally mermaid with big tits so there we go oh okay where they got the clams the clams like a hot chick in the water hot chick in the shower fourth pick we would like to take alligator okay all right good pick good pick yeah so the the one that we were going to take that was going to be adjacent to mermaid was and i don't know if it would have worked spongebob yeah he does live under the ocean the pig yep that's good i don't know we kept it in we kept it in the middle we kept in the middle of fairway this time no one uh no one mentioned beavers or otters or turtles turtles on that i thought you turtles seals people are gonna be pissed about turtles i think we had a discussion in the car about penguins would they have passed probably not what about polar bear would that have played see that's where the penguin yeah polar bear i think i would have allowed a penguin i think polar bears and hippos like hippos now hippos are basically underwater for most of their their day um lobster king crab alaskan king crab we had high up swordfish sword what about marlin yeah i we had marlin then swordfish is kind of we were thinking trophy fish yeah marlin's a trophy fish uh mahi mahi just because i had marlin it's like yeah marlin's like the number one trophy fish hank's just hungry i had i had mahi mahi like every meal in in uh saint martin it was so good yeah stingray yeah yeah red snappa kingfish clownfish puffer fish seahorse i had seahorse on my honorable salmon isn't every seahorse female no i think it's the men carry the babies though yeah okay yeah um what about anaconda anaconda i thought about that one i don't know if that's fully this is a possible i think that would work i think that would play yeah those things are fucking terrifying like that's the scariest thing on the planet i think just from watching that movie when i was a kid but what about uh piranha piranha's good piranha or barracuda barracuda he saw we saw barracuda yeah that's scary it was um i like zach said that chef donnie went and tried barracudas are so scary chef donnie literally i swear to god he went and like tried to play with this barracuda barracudas are so scary um goldfish yeah goldfish r.i.p old-fashioned goldfish oh oh picking larry would have been a great pander pig miss larry oh that would have been a great pander pig such idiots holy fuck wow i'm actually happy that we all fucked that up yeah that sucks because that would have been oh paul the octopus what do you guys think about uh norwalls don't really understand them yeah they seem like they're fake but they're real belugas those are are those just small whales i mean we picked different types of whales no i just didn't know what i'm not sure what a beluga is yeah they're belugas uh humpback whales i love watching them jump out of the water i think hank probably does too yep big time yeah why don't you pick it uh we were gonna try and get orcas oh that's why you were getting mad at me you thought orcas was gonna last all the way back we thought we had the second pick oh uh you thought dolphin was gonna go one one shark yeah yeah great white sharks got a great white shark was the easy one one yeah it does have a whole week that is a good pick michael phelps would have been a good pick oh i just thought michael phelps would be a great pick so you want the the it should say orca for us well that's the animal yeah okay you can take orca yeah it's fine it actually is better for us because we have we don't want two whales back to back so it's better orca blue yeah blue whale because if it says killer whales blue whales be like oh dude you just took too many whales how do we think everyone did there i was shocked by dolphin going one one i was i was shocked we thought we were good we thought we were gonna get dolphin at three i thought we thought it was we were fighting about what we were gonna do at three because it was gonna go yeah the green white shark orca hey we're eating soccer might not be the best about right now it's a long season we talked about already there's like 20 more of these left we i think we took a different approach for most of pigs of like attributes i was also like and then i was thinking just food i was just like yeah well you just ate so much fish this past week so you were just thinking about the fish that you ate a lot of fish and my my friends like caught a big tuna last week and it looked yeah because i was just saying when you said tuna we were thinking trophy fish but you didn't think marlin at one point our list was going like ceviche yeah uh and then what is the calamari came up like yeah this is this is hank's equivalent of going shopping at the grocery store while having dinner yeah yeah bass would have been good oh uh what about uh stripe musky sturgeon sturgeon yeah those things are like prehistoric yeah go i have grouper that's yeah that was the one i was trying to think what those were called asian carp asian carp are fucked up salmon what about the one that lives at the bottom that's got the light and like lures you in with a little thing yeah i don't know what that is because we didn't have google yeah i know i know what it is is it lantern fish is that what you said angler fish okay oh yeah what about like sea slugs at the way way bottom sea cucumber that is crazy pinfish yeah what about sea onion shane all the rich people on the titanic oh yeah osama bin laden you should have picked that hank shout out shout out why did you shout him out again oh because i think i i said that because of 9-11 yeah the patriots the nfl canceled a week and then the next week they came back drew bledsoe got knocked out brady came in shout out there you go oh man okay uh we got great interview with the chuck brothers then taylor twelman talking some more soccer and then we're gonna finish with guys on chill before we get to the kachuk brothers they're brought to you by twisted tea the twisted tea summer party packets here we drank one of these out on we drank actually several of them out on the course today i had the lemonade the twisted tea lemonade is delicious we also had the rocket pop going which tastes just like the ice cream treat that we all grew up eating the popsicle uh the half and half was fantastic and the original was always good uh try the refreshing 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this is the coolest thing want me to go yeah the new team yeah it for me it hasn't sunk in yet like it's just still so surreal i mean there's been a couple times where we're at the rank when we went down there right after the trade and it's like holy cow this is gonna be every day for six months and we're we're figuring out when our first fight's gonna be so i think it's definitely gonna happen around uh mid camp sesh but uh but no we're uh i mean it's crazy we're gonna live now three minutes away from each other and uh i don't even think it's gonna hit until the first game of the year yeah like wow this is real life yeah are you so matthew because you obviously you know you won cups with the panthers you're one of the vets on the team are you gonna be able to yell at your brother when he fucks up like are you gonna yeah nobody's safe on that team you can't even like you can't even make a play in poker and not get chirped on this team so there there's nobody off limits um it is crazy though like brady's 20 was trying to 26 and year nine because i'm in year 11 and he's the second youngest guy on the team that's not so it's it's a very like the the the core of the team is all from 20 i think anton lindell's 24 and then to 30 or 31 so everybody on the team's pretty much in that age range without you know a couple older guys so um i think he's gonna fit in perfectly and even just like being in florida years past like getting to know some of the guys like it felt like he's you know yeah been around enough where the camaraderie part and the getting to know guys like that's gonna be so easy where for most guys that's a hard thing to do coming to a new team so uh we we flew down he got traded on sunday father's day best day ever and uh we went down monday got him help with all the house and my wife helped his wife out with that and um then brought him to the rink and introduced him to everybody and just it just fit like perfectly are you gonna haze him you have to haze him i just don't want to tell him what we're doing okay he doesn't know like the pranks we pull in this locker room like nobody's safe at all so he'll he'll get it out of the gates i just can't give away my secrets but um my car keys that's that's the one thing yeah that's like a nice prank yeah it's if we move your car that's like you should just have your dad be like i don't love you brady ah gotcha gotcha that would hurt come to the first game in a 19 jersey is there truth to the rumor that you forced your way to the panthers to improve the podcast yeah no there's there's been a lot of things out there that uh a lot of people have fabricated but you know that's a part of it so that's a podcast is gonna be better like when you're face to face it's oh it's gonna be so much better it's gonna be we're actually talking about how we're gonna do it so it's uh i think everybody's pretty happy do you know who's the first guy actually we talked to or i talked to that said we should do a podcast like probably three years ago was my gm bill zito no way it's like you guys i gotta do this like it would be genius idea like you guys would crush it everybody in hockey that's never been done people would listen to it and then i talked to him like a couple weeks ago when you were in florida and he's like yeah me and my wife his wife julie were talking about it and thought it'd be a great idea and yeah yeah so we that's pretty cool you have the blessing of the gm oh yeah he's like the most on board he was the guy who told us we should have started well it's good for hockey like it's not i mean there's you know some some i would say there's some people who play sports that maybe they shouldn't be as live as possible like i think like maybe jaylen brown or micah parsons going live on twitch right after the game i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know sometimes get them in trouble but podcasting like for hockey you grow the sport yeah we just like tell what all of our listeners have talked about or like said to us like in person stuff they love the behind the scenes stories of what's actually happening right now with current players like it's one thing for a former player to talk about like you know in my day this is what happened but for them to hear like current events type stories like they love it so we got a lot more where that came from and a lot more good ones with us playing together now of on spitting chiclets but that's fine i actually have a question you love those guys okay i wish they i wish they had it when they were playing because they have millions of unreal stories interesting you say you love them because i uh i might have texted a couple of guys being like hey the chuck brothers are coming by got any questions and the only question that i got out of it was why are you dodging them on sandbaggers oh my god this is canceled almost like five i don't know about they say that you guys are dodging them for the sandbag we might have dodged them once yeah we did dodge them once we did it just things didn't line up i didn't like where my game was at i didn't want to embarrass myself no i think i think a good sandbagger though would be this year in florida yeah we can go to yans's course yeah it's right there and jake will be on your team let's say we'll do we'll do you me dad verse first those three i mean we've i've played enough with yans yans is a great player wits obviously really good yeah and biz scares me i've heard that he says he's not good but he actually is really good yeah so we'll we'll link up it if it doesn't happen this year with me i'll be there for you and him being on the same team my dad being in naples then we got big issues yeah how much of uh partying at 11 was a driving factor in you wanting to play in florida i feel like i would just want to stay there i've actually never been to 11 i swear there's no footage of me being there but uh that was an incredible night i mean it just felt like we're the only people there it was incredible yeah but i heard that spot's great never been fantastic well now that he saw that after one championship with the olympics that's where we go when we were on the stanley cup so yeah it's a little bit of motivation to win it again and go back there for a crazy party hell yeah when was the last time you guys got to a fight like a physical fight probably i don't know if we haven't thrown punches and you know since we've been kids but three years ago but the biggest wrestling by far the biggest wrestling match we've been in i can remember was three years ago it was he was playing like be a pro mode in an nfl yeah and i'm like let me just do one play he was the quarterback and i throw like obviously a hail mary i get hit as i'm throwing pick six the other way and he goes we're going right now he was genuinely pissed off i have no idea why i was so mad at him but i was so i just put in such a good shift oh that's so perfect so wait who won i think you probably it's like the same old story the last bunch of years you win like 90 but i make you tap out of yeah i don't have the killer instinct with him for some reason but uh yeah win 90 maybe fatigue gets in there i'll just get this condition yeah never been a great condition yeah i need to hop on the bike yeah um all right so golf game brady this is your first time here right yeah matthew how many times you play this is three three brady are you thinking about how many patrons you're going to maybe hit i saw what i did a pre-scout everybody does pre-scout of the the holes and the whole locations yeah i'm pre-scouting the ropes yeah with where in my shots yeah i could potentially hit them so i expect a little bit narrower so now that it's oh there's going to be a cup there's gonna be a couple fours a couple tuggies couple rick flares so we'll see we'll see we'll see i've taken my uh taking the over whatever yeah yeah i don't know how you guys do it it's a crazy part of the sermon is there's you know a lot of guys that you know they might consider them supposed to be decent golfers but when we play on the weekends if you if there were was a gallery on every hole people would be dying left and right so yeah you gotta you gotta have somebody watching like a designated four person the gallery treats it though like it's a the masters right they're they're right there yeah so forgetting it's mostly i mean for me an amateur golfer but i have no idea very amateur yeah i mean there are sticks yeah do you normally shoot yeah we play with marty today marty marty fish is incredible they are both awesome yeah awesome so like they're safe around those guys but that's not with us i'd say my game i'd be happy in the mid 80s okay okay so yeah you're gonna hit yeah oh that's three around at least yeah i think the over under is probably nine and a half for the weekend for you yeah where what did you finish the last few years i think around 30 i would have that's good so yeah try to get in the try to get in the top third um but there's no excuse this year i mean we've kind of fumbled this year and so i've had two months to play golf so hopefully it can be a little bit better was it was it weird watching the playoffs for yeah the first time in a long time yeah and a bunch of guys on my team like we were actually talking before the playoffs like are you gonna watch like no like it's gonna piss me off too much like i love it so much and it's it's really motivating too i think even just watching it and being in your summer training and the dog days and you're like we should be out there right then you do an extra rep the next day and be like all right we're getting back there next year so i love watching it but it's it was a little uh still frustrating knowing that you're we had a good team and we had a chance we would we needed to get him and get us over the top hopefully it's not your team anymore it's our team yeah it's true yeah it's true yeah it's good still feels uh crazy saying that yeah like he called me on uh free agents free agent what's it free agent frenzy yeah i think it's called and like it's cool to talk about like our team now like it's not like hey what do you guys think you're doing like what about you it's like we can just talk about one team and i know all of our family and all of our friends are just super jacked up to have one team to watch yeah so so how close are you to somewhere else do you know like was it was it between a couple teams and you're like oh this could go either way yeah it was uh it was a couple teams in the mix there and and uh I mean of course it was always enticing and and just with him and and with their team just being around or just seeing the professionalism that they have day in day out and it's all about winning so I mean there's it was a good process it was uh no it was a very unique process but uh no it was fun going through that and and having a good time and i think it's it's it's a very unique process and i know it's fun going through that and and having a good time and i think it's it's a very unique process ending up in florida was uh uh was pretty special i had no idea like we i we were in the member guest in st louis at our at my course there and uh he was on the phone a little bit on the saturday i'm like that's weird like he's just leaving me for a hole like i gotta play this by myself like what there's no phone call it's that important it's a member guest like this is the most important thing in the world right now and uh so i knew something like was maybe happening and had no idea about florida like seriously no idea and we're at our parents house the next day and we're getting ready for a little gold medal party we're gonna have that night with all our family and friends and he gets a no you got a call but you didn't have your phone so for saturday i was told that you know things are happening fast so be by your phone saturday nothing happened sunday all day just like it was always right right on my lap five minutes for family pictures i didn't have it that's when it happened of course and then our grandpa was sitting there and he's like huh this is interesting like he's on his apple watch he's like oh i just saw a tweet from no emily cap and pierre lebrun like brady just got traded to florida i was like what i immediately ran to my phone had like five missed calls i was like holy shit there it is yeah yeah how much insight did you have during that process in terms of like which teams it could possibly be no for me it's what no without what i had i had a no move clause so um no i was fortunate that you know for the teams is kind of up to up to me which teams were were included and you know for me i included you know four teams and and uh so just talk with them throughout this you know on video calls on on zoom calls and and just getting to know you know the gm's coaches so um then when it comes down to it you know my position i had the final say of you know yes or no so um but i think towards that last day it was just happening fast for all the teams involved and and then got a phone call that you know was happening with florida and and uh it was kind of a no-brainer there are the four teams public can we guess you have to tell us if we get it right okay so florida I know he's not going to. Nobody knows. Everybody thinks they know, but nobody knows. Unfortunately, I was hanging with you guys this morning at the coffee shop. So Vegas, I know for sure. Because you guys told me that. I think that might have been me, actually. I was in doubt. All right, so we have two of the four. Was Chicago on there? Okay. Colorado? It's got to be no stadium. All right, one more guess each. All right. San Jose. Sharks. It's a good one, but. Dallas. Wow. Okay. So now. That wasn't like, he wasn't saying no to both of them. He was just like. Oh, you're just saying, oh, okay. I wasn't responding. Okay. Podcasting. We're going to get it out of you after the cameras are turned off. We're just going to say it. On your next one. One thing you won't say about yourselves. I'll brag on you guys. You guys are heroes. You saved a life today. You don't know that we know that. But we were driving back to the hotel. I accidentally. I accidentally stole a car this morning. So I was driving it back to drop it off at the front desk. And there was a lady that was pulling around a corner with the flattest tire that you've ever seen in your life. Her wheel was pretty much falling off the car. She had no idea. And you guys were just yelling at her. Be like, hey, hey, pull over. Did you offer to help change the tire? So I have to press time out. Okay. Now both heroes. He immediately just teed off on the next one. He was like, oh, it's handled over there. But I saw it. I don't think she had any idea. No idea. It was the loudest noise I've ever heard in my life. We were like, roll down the window. Like, your front tire popped. She said, what? And stepped out. And she's like, already on the phone. And she was showing it. And I was like, it's just a tough bounce. Yeah. It was one of those things. She was willing to drive back to Reno. Like, she was driving back to Reno. She was going to California. Yeah. That thing was about to fall off. A nice 500 feet away. We saw it. Memes. Our guy, Memes, was like, hmm, that's Brady Kachok. But it was funny because it was like everybody like helping her, trying to guide her. And Matthew, all of a sudden, we just hear the tee shot. And he had nothing to do with it. He's like, oh, he's got to handle it. There were so many cooks in the kitchen, too. Like, I didn't want to be another annoying, like, here's what you do. They were here. You, Marty, everybody handled it great. Last time we had you guys on, you guys said you were going to do a Team USA meetup over the summer. So, have you scheduled it? Like, I know, obviously, you were probably talking to Quinn Hughes when you maybe were going to go to Minnesota because that was one of the four teams. So, Quinn actually did. No, it's funny you say that because Quinn, in the summer in Jersey, he actually moved, him and Jack, moved like three doors down for me for the month of June. And those guys are complete legends. So, it was fun to see them, see them buzzing around. But, no, there's some good sauna sessions, just chatting it up. Love that. Yeah, seeing what he was thinking, stuff like that. But they're the best. We had so much time together and just great guys. There's been a lot of, like, opportunities, too. Like, I know a few guys went to DC. I know a few guys went to DC for the fourth. A bunch of guys, a bunch of us are going to ESPYs on Wednesday, like, next week. Oh, nice. Bold's is going to be here this week, Matt Boldy. So, like, and it's just, yeah, he's going to have a chance. I guess he's a really good player. So, he might have a chance this weekend. But we've, the group chat is alive and well. Like, we've done a great job of keeping, not even keeping in touch, just, like, constant communication. Yeah. Yeah. Just having, I don't know, like, all it takes is one person to have a memory of that. And, like, see something or have a picture or, like, find a picture of the day or something. They'll send it in and then the group chat gets going for a while. It's, I'm telling you, like, collectively the best group of guys ever. And all like-minded, like, all played together at one point. Like, very, very similar personalities. And it was just a blast. And, yeah, that group's, that's a tough group to beat, personality-wise. Personality-wise, yeah. Who's the one guy on the group chat that has not been pulling their weight? There's always one. We call him out right now. No, I think everybody's been called. No, there's got to be one guy who's gone silent for a while. I mean, I'll trim because he's my boy, Sandy. Sandy, Sandy once in a while will throw in, like, a like or, but. Yeah, but he's not doing, he's not, he's not adding anything. He's just doing the thumbs up. He's probably just pumping iron all the time. He's so dialed. It's hard to get an award, though, on that group chat. Yeah, once it gets going, it's just, it goes. It's you, me, I mean, Millsy. Millsy, Trogs, Trogs, Charlie, Austin in there, Helly. Like, it's just constant with us. So, it's, I mean, I guess it's easier to hide, but everybody's very active. So, this is kind of a dumb, maybe a bad question, but obviously we're all Americans. We were rooting for Team USA in the World Cup, but is there a small part of you that's like, yeah, they couldn't do the thing we could do? Not at all. No, we would definitely think that. Like, yeah, we did it, you didn't. No, it's. That's, it was, I mean, it's just incredible that on that stage, I mean, it was an unfortunate last game, but just to see how unified the country was watching them was like, just so awesome to be a part of and kind of brought us back to. Yeah, it reminded us a lot of that. Like, I mean, I'm sure not a ton of people were watching the Olympics compared to the end when we were there. And just like each game, it was like each game that U.S. won, it was like double the viewers for the next one and the next one. And that's kind of how we felt going back to Milan. But it's amazing what. The world stage and playing for your country will do for the whole country and having success and just I keep going back to like, it's amazing how that was the first Olympics that NHL players were in since 2014. Like, what a shame, like 12 years not having that. Like, it's so unfortunate, but I mean, I guess it was worth the wait for the Americans. Do you guys have any advice for the U.S. soccer team? How to be a better American sports team? They were, I love those guys. Like, I was such a super fan. I was kind of a bandwagon fan. I'm not a huge soccer guy, but. I'm just mad at him. I know that came off really angry. Do you need toughness? I am. I am a little bit upset with the team. This is like my view watching them because I was watching the England-Mexico game, the game before. I couldn't believe how big England's like midfielders and defense were. So maybe just get a little bit bigger, get bigger, get stronger, get your weight up. But they're great. And like having it in the U.S. was so cool. Like me and my friends in St. Louis, like for the three or four games prior. Like we would always go somewhere to watch. And it's just like out of I know the last game was not ideal, but that in itself was a win for the rest of the country. Just how important it was for all of us to watch and support, I guess. Yeah. And then a spin zone is that with the whole Balogun red card, you guys are kind of like a distant memory with, you know, Team USA getting involved in politics. That's good. Yeah. Right? That's a positive. They cut all the heat off you guys. Like, oh, yeah. Nobody feels like everyone. If he wouldn't have came back, it would have been controversy. If you came back, I mean, yeah, that's just I guess that's sometimes just sports. It's all good. Yeah. I'm glad that we can move on from like getting like people asking you guys questions about why did you pick up a phone call? I guess that was that was the stupidest news cycle ever. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, we loved watching the Olympics this year's the four nations. Are we doing that again this year? World Cups in twenty eight. So it's like every two years they have. They have a unique thing. They have a unique thing that they're doing at the All-Star Game this year. What is that three and three tournament for like U.S., Canada, Finland, Sweden under was under twenty three. Yeah, I just like the All-Star Game and hockey, like the traditional one, like the three on three and the skills like I mean, it wasn't doing that well. Like it was a hard watch, I think. And then we did the four nations and then the Olympics. So I think they're kind of rallying around that. I told I think we were talking about it on our pod not too long ago. They should just bring all the guys that played like the six, four is the three D and how they should just make that the Team USA for. I'd be more than happy. I'd be more than happy to spend my break sitting on the bench and watching without a doubt. Wait. So speaking of your pod wingmen, go, go subscribe. Do you guys now that you guys have been doing it for what, like almost a year, right? Almost a year. Almost a year. Do you have any newfound respect for us? You want to compliment us? You know, we're on ten years. Yeah, we talked about it this morning. Yeah, probably the hardest thing in the podcast world is scheduling. And just like figuring out that's why, like, I'm very happy. He's in Florida, not on a team on the West Coast, because that would have been a nightmare. Vegas. So that's what I did. So I did. I did. So I'm like, I'm just happy he's in Florida and like not Vegas would have been tough. Yeah. Very, very much appreciation. And you guys are obviously so good at like, I mean, you don't have to say that with different guests, too. It's like he's right. You could always have you always have certain questions, right? And then it's like what you can do, like off the cuff and like, yeah, if you don't want to go too far one way and then not talk about what you got to talk about. So definitely a lot of respect for the podcast world, especially you boys. We did run into I think we're in minute 90 with Belichick and we hadn't asked him a single question about Tom Brady. Yeah, I think I was like, oh, yeah, let's see. Yeah, Tom Brady was pretty good, right? He's like, all right, interviews over. Yeah. So so for you, Matthew, what actually I saw Zach show this to me before we sat down. You went up in an F-16. I did. How awesome was that? Insane. Was it crazy? Were they pulling like. That's the most FOMO I've ever had in my life is seeing that. It looked. Where were you? And I'm not invited. Yeah. Still in Ottawa, Canada. They don't have F-16s. They have the F-18s, not quite as good people. The high G's. It was great. Nose authority, though. Amazing, though. We pulled nine and a half G's for a few seconds, but the hardest one that I did was like seven and a half for probably. Rath, the guy flying me, complete legend. I think he said, I was like, 15 to 20 seconds and by the end of it my circle was like this and i was seeing light out of this everything else was dark i was like a breath or two away from just passing out oh shit i never never felt like i had to puke except for when he let me fly it and of course i'm just like turning at nine o'clock and we're just doing barrel rolls in the sky i'm like whoa okay wait he said you want to take out you want to take the sticks no he just said plane's yours see that thing there do whatever you want with it so immediately i'm like do you think he was just like letting you do and he was actually like when you hand a kid and unplug control yeah exactly wow matthew you're really good yeah i was not very good so i think that's why i definitely knew i was flying but um that was being in control of that plane over the water i mean so high up but like you're looking down it's the ocean it was it was a little intimidating but time my life i would love to do it you're trying to reenact top gun maverick without a doubt yeah i'm like breathing like the the f-16 breath when it wasn't didn't even need to yeah just start talking like pilot yeah we're gonna be out of the water just those guys are unreal though like the thunderbirds they are top notch at what they do it's amazing like we were i flew on friday with them as they were doing their test run for the air show the next day and their wings are like this far away from each other and certain maneuvers it's just it's unreal yeah a lot of credit um brady do you think you're getting a video when you go back to ottawa are you thinking getting booed i think i'm for sure gonna get booed yeah are you gonna get a video though or no i don't know we'll see we'll see i don't we'll see what they got yeah i don't know i mean that's are you like thinking about that i feel like they give videos to guys that have been like places for like a year now i know yeah i mean i would think they would not sure i don't i don't know what's gonna happen but uh yeah hopefully i heard some rumblings that it's early on in the season so oh nice okay that'd be that'd be fun to get back i mean yeah also does it does it make you not feel better but like you guys lost the hurricanes the hurricanes were just dominant was i mean were they just as good as we watched where it's just like it's just so hard to beat them yeah i mean i think what they did so well is just didn't give you any ice they suffocated you and that's how i felt all serious like tried doing whatever just they gave you no room to do it and yeah i mean just sucks getting swept like just i mean everybody can always say you played better than that but then they got swept and no i know for myself wasn't good enough so that was first time it was a tough pill to swallow yeah i got a really dumb question for you guys uh when you were little how long did it take you to spell your name it feels like something that a kid might not easily pick up on yeah that's a great question thank you question i talked way earlier than brady brady was like a really my own language wait really yeah it's just how late i was speaking gibberish until 26. did you have a name for your language no so did you ever have because i came up with because my son's like that now yeah he's like just turning two but he speaks his own language but i don't want to get did your wait did your dad did you ever like did your parents ever take you to like the doctor and being like i went to a speech um what is it therapist yeah and i couldn't get my s's right i was like that's normal amy sprinkler yeah so i got it all dialed in love it uh zach yeah i still can't i still can't spell your guys names i just i just throw a bunch of consonants in there that's why i just tell people don't even look at the t i just literally when i when i spell it i just throw a bunch of k's c's and h's out just like somewhere in there it's gonna make sense yeah uh yeah we got zach it's actually gonna ask the the row back question r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com promo code take 20% off the app and you're gonna get a free t-shirt at the end of the day and you're gonna get a free t-shirt at the end of the day and you're gonna get a free t-shirt at the end of the day our first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts rowback.com also thank you to matthew and brady because they did this on short notice we were just they were actually having a nice lunch i was like hey can you just a wet lunch we call that lunch a couple drinks fun so all all-time guys all right zach you ready uh yes sir gentlemen uh thank you for your time today did have a quick question uh matthew do you here recently went back to back stanley cups with the panthers and then brady you coming down to florida that kind of brings together the ultimate team chemistry you could have being brothers some were speculating you guys could be in like guarantee a championship territory and i was just curious if you felt the same and if so if you'd like to declare that here today um nothing is ever guaranteed and our team did not have our best year last year at all and for us to have a chance to get at the top of the mountain we needed to get somebody like him so we are a better team now than we were at the end of the season so all you can ask for is a chance and i think we got a chance brady you should guarantee it really like make yourself you feel at home there's been enough controversy around me in the last little bit so i need to go a couple weeks without controversy well you got another question uh yeah quick follow-up i know you guys make your careers out on the ice we are here at beautiful lake tahoe this weekend if it's 1v1 head-to-head we're pivoting the ice melts swim race who's who's crossing the finish line first wow i think depending on the length of it i think short distance i get him and then he's just his cardio is as low average as it's gonna get so i think i'm gonna have to go with that i got him yeah you got me on long distance blow my load early what's gonna happen uh when one of you gets in a fight next year are you gonna feel like an extra special like i gotta go i'm gonna go defend him or is it just teammates i mean that's tough because when he fought at four nations i've never been more nervous going into it i'm like the last thing i need for him is get knocked out on this stage like that'd just be brutal but when he was fighting like i truly felt like i could fight anybody yeah super straight like the adrenaline that i felt like seeing him go and like seeing i don't even know all he kept saying was i couldn't speak again speak english but i was like just fuck yeah for like 20 times and and then like once he you know fought did great i was like i feel like i could take anybody yeah that was the same thing with me though like for mine like i was as calm and chill like not calm i was like seeing red and then for him i'm like a little bit like you get more nervous when it's not you yeah now it's my teammate is it but also like what is it like the bro like you don't want to see your big brother get beat up and then you you got to defend your little brother yeah i think that i mean i have i have a feeling that if somebody's uh i mean he's obviously like pretty close to the he's a light heavyweight right definitely in that tier of whatever you want to call it sneaky called you fat cardio two things john jones is a light heavyweight that's true um but i have a feeling that like brady especially early like he's a light heavyweight he's a light heavyweight like he's definitely gonna want to like i don't want to say like show off like everything like the type of player he is but i think he's he's gonna come out of the gates like as fired up and wanting to like initiate himself in the team right on your stripes and the best way to do that is being like playing hard playing physical producing and then every once in a while like so i have a feeling like the first time one of the guys on the team gets like hit clean but like maybe hard i have a feeling brady's gonna gonna try to yeah earn his stripes that's a great way yeah that's a great way of putting gotta prove it do you guys have a a favorite thing to say to someone when you know you want to fight him or you just like you want to go what do you say i think my favorite the ones you don't say anything it's like you just both know yeah it's like yeah it's like we're gonna kiss or fight mutual it's just you know and like i think those are my favorite yeah you can't even explain that you just both somehow like don't need to communicate both the wires are crossed it's it's on but is there do people say you want to go i love it yeah you should tell us about that i hear i hear like let's go yeah and like you're not gonna say no because then you want to look like no it depends who it is right you don't want to be like no i mean you could say that to somebody that's like not good but like if it's fair trade-off or whatever you're like yeah let's go and sometimes you catch them off guard and then all of a sudden your gloves are off i think yan said uh his favorite was just saying you want one yeah roll one yep you want one want to go let's go let's get the boys going yeah yeah someone says that i think i used that last year oh that's awesome you said that with uh anders lee right yeah yeah and it was funny because we did it the first time in ottawa and then we played a couple weeks later like one of our last games of the year for like the playoff push and then he skates right up to me he's like same thing as last time big boy he's like sounds good have you ever thought like this is going to get the boys going and then it absolutely does not get the boys going i mean you could argue that that's what happened in playoffs stall proceeded to win the con smite but i mean my my thought was you know we're playing against a powerhouse yeah and try to set the tone but i fucking love i feel like a fight that doesn't even matter like who wins or loses both teams are either fired up because their guy like won the fight and got everyone going and then the guy that doesn't it's like all right like now we're pissed off right i don't know it's yeah yeah you always get a pause of something it's always mutual it all mutual like uh what do you call it momentum yeah it's also yeah you just you just decide uh how it affected the game after the game's over like if you win you're like well it's because the fight yeah if you lose you're like well we probably shouldn't have fought yeah morning quarterback yeah right exactly i have never played with and i've never played with someone or played in the situation like i remember playing against a guy and he was like oh i'm gonna play against a and we were up three nothing like early in a game on the road and one of the guys on the team got asked fight and fought him and it was like awesome and like we still won the game but after that period guys were like going up to him being like hey like we had the momentum like don't do it i'm like fuck that like that was unreal i don't care you should have a respect for the guy yeah i'm like that was amazing you didn't get momentum off that like i don't care if we're up three and three nothing and they scored the next show like yeah that was amazing so yeah i think i think that's looked into more from the outside like because of results than in the actual locker yeah you guys have specific guys in the league right now where you're like there's probably a good chance i'm gonna have to fight him i say more from me than him yeah who who would it be i don't i can't be i can't because i'm lc there you go right there like someone who's like and all of a sudden i'm fighting two times a year here we go this game this game this game yeah you just got to pick somebody small yeah yeah could you take willie i fought him before yeah yeah we love him he's he's a great player yeah i think he's a beast got a lot of respect for him he's awesome yeah i love are you gonna have to like go out of your way because obviously you guys are close being brothers are you is there going to be like some bit of i don't want to say like you know like we were alluding to earlier like you want to let your teammates know like yeah he's my brother we're close but ultimately like this is about us as a team and not just his and my relationship do you yeah for sure like keeping are your lockers going to be next to each no no we're we're spread out a little bit um like at olympics we weren't by each other we obviously roomed together that but i mean he's already saying like he's like when i'm down in florida like don't be pissed off one day when i'm golfing with three of the boys yeah and i'm like hey i get it yeah you lost your spot but i think that's what i'm most excited about is like yeah getting on building relationships with all these guys that you know i know but right it's gonna be of course great doing with him but he's not we're not gonna be shoulder to shoulder all day every day we're gonna yeah you guys should talk each other yeah we were behind each other's back yeah yeah yeah yeah just shit talk all your tears like damn they hate each other i know i know our teammates at the olympics thought we were nuts because of like the shit talking we do to each other like in cards or in the locker room or whatever it was they're like these and like kind of just helps loosen everybody yeah i don't know it's the boys i guess also yeah you have proof that it works because you want to hold metal so i think that's why i think that's why we're really excited too because we're uh had success at the olympics proved that we actually played with each other like on the same line there so prove that work so just hoping for more success down in florida because just need another chance at a championship yeah all right well golf game's probably going to get better in florida too yeah i'll be playing more more often than before so what what is uh what's the goal for this week where do we want to finish this i know you said you finished what like 30th yeah i want to finish i if i can finish i mean i look at top third as a goal but somewhere somewhere around yeah number i think there's 90 guys in the tournament right top 30 would be awesome yeah i just want to be positive points yeah i'm strictly looking out for myself yeah positive points it's hard though like everything in the hole is so tough yeah and like staying in it mentally and then you're waiting a lot like it's two doubles around yeah that's what i'm looking at dude we played we played the course and i thought you're talking about drinks yeah that's a start the greens are insane though yeah there was a couple holes where it's just like the hole was on a hill it was like halfway down the hill they just do such amazing such an amazing job like this course is an incredible show it's the best place like on earth it's the sun is always shining it's nuts so um all right thank you boys everyone subscribe to the podcast and uh we'll have you in the office when you uh come to chicago this year i love that yeah yeah show them around i want him to do the uh the gauntlet yeah the gauntlet yeah well what was i not like i was like i was like i was like i was like last year's the year before oh because i got was hurt last year yeah the year before yeah the year before he came by what's up what are the gauntlet uh like sports uh it's cornhole soccer baseball football three-point shot three-point shot trivia maybe we got to add hockey for you guys yeah yeah trivia is not gonna be strong that's where they got me no yeah we've had some listen we've had some we had i think at one point we had uh some guys from the detroit tigers come in and one of the questions was like name the six biggest cat species and he just didn't get tigers it was just like what the fuck dude so yeah that happens to you guys you don't get panthers out of that yeah yeah yeah so all right well thanks boys appreciate it okay we now welcome on a very very special guest we are live for the american century championship it is taylor twelman and he's going to talk some soccer with us we also were just talking do we have to yeah we have to we have to talk about the american century championship Okay, we have to. All right, let's just rip the Band-Aid off. We already taped some of the podcast. And here's where I'm at with U.S. soccer. PFT's in a little bit of a different spot. PFT's, he cares maybe a little bit more, invested a little more. I love watching him. I love, you know, getting behind my country. I'm now at a point where I just think we suck at soccer, and that's okay. And that's okay. And it's not like we suck, we're the worst team in the world. It's we suck relative to the big boys where it's like, hey, the levels to this are insane. And watching us get absolutely embarrassed by Belgium, who is not, they're not a top five team. No chance. And that's not being disrespectful to Belgium, but they're not. Right, so I'm going to root for them every time they're in the World Cup. Every time we're in a big game, I'm going to root for them. Belgium or the U.S.? The U.S., but I'm also going to just go into it being like, hey, you know what? Soccer's not our sport, so it's okay. Like, we're going to get to the round of 16. We're going to lose, and then I'm going to be like, okay. I feel like this is an AA meeting, the way this is going. Dan, to your point, like, it's, yeah, it goes against us as Americans to accept that we're not even in the top three or four. Right. You know, like, hockey, you know what I mean? It's big to win the gold medal. We all celebrated it because it's not a given. We're not number one, but we're in the conversation. Right. We have a seat at the table. Yeah. It's very difficult for us as Americans just to look at the men's program and say, wow, man, we can't get in the final eight. Right. We can't? Right. Like, really? In our own country? Yeah, in our own tournament? In that environment? I know. At Seattle? Yeah. That's going to be the most difficult part for me, and I wasn't on the field. That has to be the most difficult part for them as well to look back, five years, ten years, unless 2030 they do this miraculous run and they use it for motivation, but they'll still always go, what the hell happened in Seattle? Right. Us three were together watching the game. Yeah. Five minutes in, all three of us, including Marty Fish, who was with us, looked at each other and said, what is going on? Why are we so slow? Yeah. Why are we sluggish? Why do we look like we're running in quicksand? It was that first goal. Oh, my God. We were just like, hey, someone go step up. Even before that first goal where, I mean, we had, Freeze made a speculation. Pat Freeze had to make an unbelievable save. Otherwise, it was 1-0 two minutes in. Yeah, no, to me, I keep going back and forth because I was very upset yesterday. I stormed out of the restaurant afterwards. What an Irish exit that was. I looked around going, oh, cool. Well, it was, can I just tell real quick, it was very funny because we independently, you were with your family and Marty Fish and his family. We were all of us together. We watched the game together. Then independently, we all just went to the same ice cream place. Yes, yeah. But we get to the ice. We get to the ice cream place, and you turn to your wife, and you're like, just order me something. I got to make a video. And I look over, like, across the street, and you're like, underneath a tree, just ranting into your phone. I was like, oh, Jesus. That's right. That's what we do. It was so cathartic. It was SportsCenter and Yahoo. I did two hits, and I look, you know, I'm like, hats disheveled to the side. I look like I'm 14 beers deep. May or may not have been. Yeah, that's a tough one. Here's the thing. That's it. It just, it sucks. It really sucks. I go back and forth between the skies falling, just mostly because I'm still pissed off about it. And then in my calmer moments, I think to myself, we played some really good soccer in this World Cup. Objectively good, entertaining soccer that we've never seen the United States do before. In what game other than Paraguay? Paraguay, I thought that we were good against Australia as well. Okay. I thought that first half against Australia. But my generation would have won that game against Australia in the same manner. Yeah. Most likely. Most likely. Most likely. In Bosnia, we would have won that game too, because it wasn't like this free-flowing attacking. I'm putting this seated. I don't know if we did. Like, I think Paraguay was really high level. Yeah. Sure. But 2002, we were beating Figo and Portugal 3-0 20 minutes in. Yeah. So, I don't know. I don't know that answer. Is Paraguay an anomaly? Is that the barometer? Mm-hmm. But I thought Portugal in 2002. I thought Portugal in 2002 was the barometer, and then we flamed out in 2006. I don't know this answer. Right. Portugal in 2002, we did. There was a lucky goal in that one too. But you make your own luck. We were attacking. And the team, I guess the team that I saw. Yeah, we had an own goal against Paraguay. It's true. The team that I saw attacking in, like, group stage and against Bosnia, I feel like that's a different style of soccer. Like, more aggressive. It gave me more reason to be optimistic about the future of the U.S. men's national team. And then what was so, so shitty about. the game last night was just the lack of days of cold nature but they looked like they didn't care. It looked like the moment was too big. I think it was a combination of like they just – Because I think they cared. I think all three of us – I know what you're saying. No, the lights were too bright though. They looked like they were afraid to play the same style of soccer that they were playing before. But let me throw something out. I firmly believe – let me say this. Do you think the Baligan News less than 36 hours before kickoff threw off the entire thing? A little bit. I think it did, and I think it probably gave Belgium bulletin board material too. Oh, no doubt. Where they're like, it is truly us against – How about the gold celebrations after them? They're going like this. They're waving their hands. They're putting their hands to the – they knew there was too much talk. Well, and there's also – it's the vibes of the story going into the game is like we lost our best player on a bad red card. We're the underdogs. It's a feel-good story. And then it completely flips to America's the bad guys and everything is – Yes. Yeah, I think it definitely had something to do with it. I also – You obviously know soccer so, so well. The Paraguay game, is that also game flow? Because Paraguay, you saw what they did against Germany where it's like what they want to do is they want to squeeze you to death. They want to play defense. They want to make it a 1-0 game, a 0-0 game. Us scoring so quickly, it's like, well, now they have to play our game. Now, it's a great observation, and that's where I think you're going with what your comment is about the sky isn't falling. Paraguay just wants to squeeze. That's all they did in qualifying. They only gave up six goals, and that's Brazil, Colombia, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, all of these south – that's amazing. The United States punched them in the face. They couldn't recover. So game flow. It's a great observation, and that's what you're talking about. What I'm saying is, though, that wasn't sustained because Australia, solid win, but no generation before them doesn't win that game. It's the same type of game that we usually use to win. Fight them, work hard, do this. But Paraguay, there was an energy to the game. That Paraguay was completely stone-faced, like, who is this? The fact that they couldn't really do that against Bosnia raised my alarm bells a little bit against Belgium because I was like, hang on a minute, right? This is in San Francisco, a home game. Bosnia has no real chance of attacking where Paraguay did have a little bit more of that. I'm not saying the sky is falling, but I feel like I do. I do this every four years. Yeah, yep. And then we do the conversation about soccer being too expensive and all this stuff. It's like the rinse and repeat. You're like, dude, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over. I said that earlier in the podcast. Yeah, and it's like, and again, it's not like I'm rooting against the U.S. I want us to do well, but it's okay to just kind of put your hands up and be like, hey, we're always going to be the fourth or fifth sport, and it's never going to be a priority as a country to be the best. It's not going to be the best. It's not going to be the best soccer, and this is what the result is going to be. And that's why I think the loss in the manner that they did is so heartbreaking. Yeah, right. Because I do believe, and I've said this the entire tournament, if they got to that quarterfinal to play Spain, I think this country, all of a sudden, something clicks. And then you're the underdog. No one expects you to do anything, and then you're kind of more free. Right. The expectation level was overwhelming for this group. A majority of that group plays at high-level competition in Europe. That is the biggest surprise for me. Yeah. When you're playing in Syria, the Bundesliga, and the Premier League, and all this, that round of 16 game, the whole reason 12 years ago when we lost to Belgium, we were talking about, how do you get more experience of playing high-level competition? Guys, this generation has that. They had a worse result. Yeah. They had a worse game. Yeah. That's the heartbreaking and disingenuous feeling that I have of going, do we know what we're doing? Yeah. So we were famous. We were favorites in that game, too, which is crazy, against Belgium. So this game, like this time around, Vegas thought that we were favorite. And I don't think that we should be favored. Oh, man, I did. Oh, no, I bet so much on U.S. I bet on them, too. But if I'm being objective, like, we have never proven that, like, that's kind of uncharted territory for us to beat a ball team. True, but you've got to think of what Vegas is looking at. They just played Senegal. Senegal completely outplayed them. U.S. beat Senegal. They're at home. Belgium played 30 extra minutes. Yeah. 30 extra minutes, which, by the way, De Bruyne didn't even play. Right. Doku's off the bench. Yeah. Lukaku's off the bench. It was brilliant from Rudy Garcia to play his youngest squad, because I went into the game saying, in the group states, Belgium was the fourth oldest team in the World Cup. Mm-hmm. Not Ronda's 16 games. Different team, yeah. They played a completely different team. They were running. They were fighting. They were motivated. But I know what you're trying. I know what you're saying. Like, we weren't favored 70. 30. But I thought we were at least 60. 40. 55. 45. Yeah. Because of home field. Because of the way the group staged. Our road's been easy. It was an easy road. Belgium was playing Egypt and other teams. We weren't. Yep. That game, 2014 against Belgium. Oh. That was. So, in that game, like, we came away from that feeling a lot better about U.S. soccer as a program, I think. Yes. Than we are right now, which is I am kind of in, like, sky is falling. Do you think that Poach is. He's proven that what he's tried to do is worthy of giving him another shot? Try it again in four years? Or do you think that we should go in a different direction? Yeah. He didn't get enough time. So, no matter. In my opinion, in order to fully observe and, I would say, objectively critique a national team, international manager, you have to have a full two years. He didn't even get that. Yeah. So, to answer your question, if Poach wants to come back, then he, in my opinion, I want to see that. I want to see 40. I want to see 40 years with him. Keep in mind, they've got to now qualify. Yeah. See, the problem with this whole thing was the last three and a half years felt like a waste. Yeah. Copa America was a complete debacle. There's no World Cup qualifying. The friendlies are a hitter there. Gold Cup, you got your star players asking not to come in because they need a mental break. That's another thing we should talk about. And we should. But so, to answer your question very shortly, yeah, if Poach wants to come back, sure. But knowing him, getting to know him, he is an everyday grind kind of guy. He's a club. He's a player. He's a player. He's a manager. So, I don't know if this result leaves a real negative taste in his mouth that he doesn't want to do it. Or does it motivate him and say, give me four years with this group and then let me see what I can do. Yeah. Okay. That's a fair answer. Now, to your earlier point that you alluded to, like Jelic. Jelic seems, and if you really need mental health breaks, people should take those mental health breaks. And you should take that space if you need it. But it does seem that Jelic has not, he doesn't have a passion for playing for the United States. It does. He doesn't, for whatever reason, he doesn't ever seem like he's. You're talking Pulisic or no? Oh, I'm sorry. What did I say? You said Jelic. Jelic, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, Pulisic. Jelic plays for the Brewers? Yeah, I mixed that. No, that'd be amazing. If he ever wins a round every week. If you want to do that discussion, too, I could go on one of all these, only if our best athletes played. Okay. I got my Croatians mixed up. But Pulisic, yeah. So, he takes some time off. It doesn't, it never felt to me like he has the passion to play for the United States and represent. It doesn't get him excited. For whatever reason. And he's been anointed as being Captain America. We've talked about it, how he's like the future face of United States soccer. And it seems like it's just not working out. Like, at what point do you say, if you're, you know, in charge of putting together the final roster, like, you might be a very talented player, but we need guys that are going to demonstrate a passion for this and are going to be leaders to get everybody else fully invested. And it seems like you might not be that guy. Yeah, it. General media is asking a lot of questions of Pulisic now, aren't they? And Yellish, yeah. Yeah, and Yellish, too. If he can only hit the ball opposite way, he'd be fine. I'm not letting him off the hook for this, yeah. I agree. Yellish, it's your fault we lost to Belgium. Listen, I was there when Christian was, I called his first game. I was introduced to him. I've gotten to know him. Failing to qualify for the 2018 World Cup really hurt Christian Pulisic. And I think that has changed the trajectory of him with the national team. Yeah. Yeah. You will never hear me say that he doesn't care playing for the red, white, and blue. I know he does. The problem is he doesn't want to be that guy. Right. He doesn't. He thrives when he's your third attacker for Milan. And then he's one of the best. Right. But what we're not talking about is none of us can be surprised that Pulisic had a bad World Cup when from January 1st to the beginning of World Cup camp, he had zero gold contributions. After six months. Six months where he led Serie A and gold contributions. That is 180 degrees difference. Yeah. That is black and white. That is completely opposite. So I don't know what happened. We know publicly that he broke up with his longtime girlfriend. I don't know if that's it. If personally he's going through something. If he's tangling with, do I go back to England because Tottenham and Manchester United and these teams are sniffing? Do I go to MLS? Because there's three MLS teams that are willing. Off from 60, 70 million to go back. So I don't know. But the last six months for Christian Pulisic were opposite of what Balogun was. And so coming into the World Cup, I thought the Senegal game would just bring it back to him. And it would come. And the injury in the Paraguay game really scared. It looked like it scared him. It did, didn't it? Yeah. Like it just looked like he lost his mojo. Yeah. Because of 45 minutes against Paraguay. He was really good. Yeah. He was. He was creating every time he touched the ball. He was unbelievable. unbelievably good, even without the ball. His runs were awesome. Yeah, this one's weird. It's weird, and he's going to have to ask and deal with that. Listen, when you're put on the mantle, it is what it is. And you're judged by, in critical moments, in big games, yeah, that's a tough one. The only thing I'll say about Christian Pulisic against Belgium is he was not the only one that didn't deliver, that plays at a big club, and that should have been at a higher level. He wasn't, but he didn't do what he needed to do. And that's where this one becomes really interesting. He's got a target on his back now. Yeah, yeah. The Gold Cup thing, can I just say something? Because I wasn't with you guys, and we didn't talk about it. I just don't understand why the messaging and how he portrayed it to the public, that was really mismanaged. Yeah, he needs just a friend to run stuff by. Because whenever he gives an interview, he's like, yeah, you know, it's just another tournament. We were talking about, like, the World Cup. It's like, if you're doing an interview, if you're talking to the media, you have to at least. Put on a face and act like you really, truly care. I'm so glad you brought up that comment. By the way, everyone in the world, if you've got a half a brain, we know it's not just a tournament. So that actually told me he's nervous about the tournament. There's pressure. See, I've always been told, embrace the pressure. Because it almost takes your anxiety down. You're like, yeah, man, this is a big tournament. This is the World Cup. What do you want me to do? I'm going to do my best. It's just another tournament I'm trying to play. Then after the game, weird comment about the ankle. Yeah, you know, I kind of sprained my ankle. Christian. You came out of a World Cup game down. Right. It can't just be an ankle. It can't. Right. Yeah. Not to the fans. Not to your teammates. Not to anyone. It can't. So I couldn't agree with you more. The messaging, it's a little weird. Yeah. It's all strange. We can zoom out and talk a little bit more about soccer as a whole and the World Cup as a whole. Today, what happened with Argentina. Are you Messi or Ronaldo guy? Messi. All right. We can proceed. Yeah. Just absolutely insane. People are going to be upset about the VAR being used. It's kind of crazy. They brought it in to like. From a hundred yards away. A hundred. It was one of the best goals I've ever seen. It was unbelievable. Absolutely incredible. For those of you listening and watching, you got to go watch it. Yeah. The goal that was taken back was unbelievable. At what point does FIFA step in and say like, hey, VAR is a great tool. Well, let me. But it's like we're losing control of Skynet right now. Let me ask you guys a question. Because I'm going to reverse it, but same topic. Does it drive you nuts the way American football has turned into regarding the catch? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. What are we doing? Here's what I don't understand about VAR. And you can tell me this is the dumbest thing ever for soccer. I get it. Offsides. You need the rule. Everyone's like, oh, there should be no offsides. Why can't it just be where your feet are? Yeah. Like that. The thing that drives me nuts is when it's like an offsides and the guy's feet are completely on side. But it's his shoulder. But his shoulder or his arm. Yeah. Or like his hand is dangling. That has no outcome. The spirit of the rule is you can't get behind the defender. If your elbow is behind the defender, that does not change how you're playing soccer. Big Cat, I could not agree with you more. And I bet you a million dollars that after this World Cup, there will be real consideration of Arsene Wenger and his idea of offside, of being daylight between the defender. I like that. I do too. I like that. Because what bothers me, and we can thank the Premier League. I think for ruining VAR, my pinky was offside. Missed me with this. Like, what are we doing? Lukaku's dick was offside. That actually did happen. I was actually going to say, it's like circumcising Mosquito right now with what we're doing. It's like, it's crazy. Really, where are we going with this? The Croatia goal was bullshit. Like, that was, that's just spirit of the sport. He was not, it didn't, it glimpsed. All three of us watched that goal. Okay. And we have six eyeballs. I still have not seen the ball turn differently. Right. But the chip in the ball. The ball said it hit his hair. Right. And it spiked up. And you're like, I've watched the video with my eyes. I don't see it. I hope VAR has been exposed for certain things. And I wish American football, this Des Ryan complete the catch thing. Guys, I don't. Well, you know what it is? I was saying what it was like. It was that one year that after the Saints-Rams NFC Championship game where they're like, yeah, we're going to make pass interference reviewable. It's like, why? This is going to be brutal. It's brutal. It's a bad watch. Now, we all know gambling is more than likely the reason behind it. VAR is really, really important for 2010. Frank Lampard scored a goal for England. Ball hit underside of the bar. Went all the way completely behind the line. Ref and linesman didn't see it. Goal doesn't count. That is why we need VAR. We need VAR to expose offside. We need to change the offside law. The red cards. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. This tournament's been. Really interesting to me because in MLS, we don't have this dissecting certain things. It's got to be clear and obvious for you to rescind something or give something. And I think this tournament's exposed it. I just hope FIFA doesn't bury their head in the sand and say, no, it's fine. It is what it is. It's also like they're being a ref is hard. The human element should be part of it should be part of the game. You know what I mean? Where it's like you. You can't review every little play. So I'm a massive St. Louis cards fans, right? 1985 World Series. Yeah. God bless the soul. Yeah. Like that umpire that moment, like it's a human element. Right. Part of, you know, nowadays we would have had a World Series. Yeah. Is it crazy to say there should be two refs? That's a lot of ground for one ref to cover. Like I know they're running a diagonal system and all that. So they're trying to get the assistant referees, you know, in one corner. You got the assistant. No, it's been discussed. But like, that's a big ass field. I feel like we could have two. And in basketball, we have multiple refs and football. We've got like half the guys on the field are referees. Well, no, the soccer purists would tell you right now. Well, we have three refs and you're like, well, hang on a minute. The assistant referees, their goal in the game, they go into the game, making sure they're in line with the last defender. Their whole goal is offside. That's all they care about. Right. Yeah. Adding a second ref in each ref does each half. Yeah. Okay. There's an in. There's an. There's an intriguing part to that because you can then say, well, the ref goes against the attacking team, one half defending team, the other half. So there's going to be no like playing favorites or anything like that. Right. I think there's value to it. Now there's not value to it. I would argue against myself on the point is, well, VAR is supposed to protect that. My issue is this. If you have VAR or instant replay in any sport and you still can't get calls, right. We've got a problem. Yeah. Yeah. We've got a problem. You're over-officiating. If you referee everything to the letter of the law, if you had VAR in NFL and everything was up to this like sky judge, you could call a penalty for holding. No, they'd be holding on every single play. You have to let them play at some point. It's the NBA when we started to get a little bit out of it. But like the fact that we would just spend five minutes seeing if it glanced off someone's pinky and it's like, yeah, just, just call, just call it, just call the game. Yeah. Call the game. Call the game. All that said, this world cup has been awesome. Yeah. So I know that we've just basically been saying all the things that we're frustrated about right now, but it's been an incredible world. But I'd argue the last 30 minutes we just talked is growth of this thing. Yeah. I do think that, listen, you guys and your listeners and your viewers, they intelligently talk the game now. Yeah. I, yeah, maybe we say a lot of dumb stuff. Dude, I say dumb stuff and I'm supposed to be an expert. It happened. But my point is it is more mainstream than we've ever had it in the conversation, in the discussion. I got it. It's a massive argument. T is TSA. Pre-agent was so upset about a VAR call in a Morocco game. You know, you, and he wouldn't let me go by him. I was like, dude, my flight leaves in 20 minutes. Yeah. You're right. And secretly I got on the plane. I was like, that was the coolest thing. No, because if you, if you have people complaining about stuff, that means they care. It works. Like if they don't complain, then they're just not watching. And they don't care. Yeah. Yeah. Even though like half the country's lost their mind about the whole Caitlin Clark thing, we're talking about the WNBA way more. Yeah. So like, I do think, yeah, there's like people pulling you aside. They have. They've lost their brains on Caitlin Clark. I know. It's crazy. What are we? Holy shit. It's nuts. So we're. Oh my God. We are loving the world cup. I'm loving the penalty kicks. I love, we, Big Cat and I both love the penalty, penalty shootout to determine. Okay. So I got a question for both of you. Yeah. Would you rather be the goalie or the taker? Taker. I'd bury it every time. Perfect. I just wanted that soundbite. Yeah. They both said taker. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. And which number penalty would you want to take? I want to go first. I'd want to go third. Set the tone. Okay. Why first? Because I want to set the tone. I like that. Why third? Because you're like kind of, kind of somewhere in there where people don't really remember if you may, like there's still time left, but also it could be a significant one. Yep. I would not want to be first or fifth. Absolutely not. So this. Go ahead. So the story is, and I want to keep this going because I think your listeners will appreciate the story is your best penalty taker always takes one. And I always wondered, okay, but any kind of sports psychologist would tell you the biggest you know what? And the, the guy that wants the pressure is four or five. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's so there's that person. Yeah. That's a high leverage. It's like a, it's like a reliever. Those are the levered spots. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. But one sets the tone. Always has always well. I'm not a math guy, but I, I feel like it's like in baseball, you want your best hitter to lead off. Right. I know that traditionally in baseball, it's been a little bit different where you've had your best hitters hitting three, four. Did you know right now there's only 18 guys in major leagues that are hitting over 275. I saw a clip. What are we talking about? I saw a clip the other day on Instagram. gram this is a side tangent strike out i saw a clip the other day where it was uh it was just introducing the nl all-star team from like 99 every guy was hitting like 360 it was so nuts to see it was like it was like tony right now would be a pinch hitter yeah it was jarring to see what's crazy is like in uh the the penalties with germany they were having discussions about who's going to take the next one i feel like that's something that they should have probably sorted out guys we had three weeks ago legit players for them declined to take a penalty that's crazy that how would always how does that happen yeah i don't know i don't know i've lived this i'd make sure i declined well in advance yeah so take me out of the game and that's so that's no but we're laughing yeah but dan brings up your point shouldn't you have already talked about this in training yeah right correct but you make subs things happen all i'm going to say is that i lived it i lived it in 2006 mls cup we had two players two really good players say they didn't want to take a penalty that's crazy and i sat there and i was like and it really guys it it truly made me one of the most mad i've ever been because i i have so much more respect for you if you raise your hand you want to take you miss it you will always i will always get your back for sure because you stepped up but you don't want to take it so now every time you think of that that that those three germans yeah so then jonathan ta who who apparently full disclosure from his teammates raise his hand goes i'll 100 take one well good i'm 100% take one i'm 100% take one i'm 100% take one yeah now it's one of the worst penalties i've ever seen yeah okay yeah how does that happen by the way how do you sky it's unreal how do you hit it that it would just happen with with columbia and switzerland like i don't understand how you missed the goal that bad last year at the american century championship i have an eagle chip never ever have i bladed it in my life yeah and i skull you know what the hell out of that ball across the green to the other side i look at my getting go it's pressure yeah jonathan ta probably taking a hundred penalties in his life and never hit one over the goal it comes now to the round of 32 he's got to make it to stay and he hits it literally adam venetieri hadn't kicked the ball that high right like he legitimately hit that 30 rows into the stands i just don't understand i guess the part i don't understand pressure makes sense but like these guys are so good if you just put it in low low corner high corner like it's almost impossible i think if you just hit it really strong yeah hard the goalie's got to really hit it really hard really come up with a big save right they have to guess right but i took a penalty once it was in dortmund and it's called the yellow wall and behind the goal it's 30 000 35 000 and everybody's dressed in yellow that goal that is a big goal when i'm there for practice that goal looked at this yeah you know what i mean and i just think pressure makes it and everything comes in the other part is paraguay goalie on cleats he's 6 10 with cleats on he's 6 10 yeah so then he goes like this and jonathan probably looks at the goal and says i where the hell am i where am i going with this thing yeah i'm gonna roof it messi got one saved on him today messi's four yeah he's in the world cup he's not this woke up in his career yeah no he's not a great one did you ever take the uh the old mls style penalty where it was like the shootout thing where you dribble my head is so low i would have been like a bobblehead and tripped over my own feet that was i would love to do that in our all-star game yeah i'd love to see the current players try to do that yeah that was a wild time dude you got five seconds the whistle blows the goalie can bum rush you yeah and you got five seconds to shoot it yeah rock what uh so messy i mean it's insane what he's doing guys people were i i saw a clip go viral a couple weeks ago where the announcer was saying this is probably his last world cup in 2018 they were saying that he's won a world cup and he's leading the goal scorers this in this year's world cup like what is it just like because his game was never about athleticism that he's able to do it this late like where it's just it's always been his touch his the way he sees the game the angles like is that why his brain is next level i will tell you this because it's been a true pleasure to follow him and i've done 80 some odd percent of his games in mls with inner miami and i'll tell you there's two things that stand out to me i've never seen anyone more competitive like he is he's accomplished everything and he's going up against the colorado rapids and he wants to beat their brains right like legitimately embarrass them so i'm sitting there thinking this guy's different way different the other part is and everybody talks about it he walks a lot yeah he walks with such a purpose it really screws the opposition's brains right so like this what he's still walking and then all of a sudden he's floating around and you know i made this analogy it's kind of a weird one but i'm going to go with it you know when you're sitting on a summer night in the lake and the lake water's really still and there's this fly that bounces off the water if you think about messi's career he's never really been tackled that hard yeah if you think about it he's never been like barcelona argentina even miami he's got such a sixth seven cents of where everybody else is that he dodges a lot of trouble yeah like look at that right he didn't score today against egypt but that run he went through no i'm saying dude it was unbelievable yeah and i'm like he's 39 yeah it's unreal but he's the most competitive guy i've ever met all right so i got a question off that uh holland has been insane he's a breakout star i think a lot of people who watch ebl obviously knew who he was yeah but the general public yeah so you're 100 right but he does the same thing where he's walking that clip is so cool if you haven't seen it his goal his header goal against brazil yep where he he actually looks like he's disinterested in the game like looks down while the ball is being played heavy breathing yeah and he was setting up the defender and then it's just it's just boom out of nowhere he's now sprinting to a spot heading the ball in what is that like how does that work i don't understand how guys are able to do that first off big bear great question um when i was 21 england great played in the world cup in 82 it became he was our assistant coach um with the revs his name was paul mariner he looked at the ball and he was like oh my god i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do this and he looked at me he goes you run too much i was i was playing number nine and i'm thinking you know first off i think my shit doesn't stink i just literally scored 30 goals the year before i'm like what are you talking about i'm buzzing around i'm gonna run everybody to death he goes you run too much so we would watch tape and he would show me guys the highest level that they float they they would bait the defender so holland and messy are two different completely played two completely different players but they're doing the same thing in the opposition they want to look at the ball and they want to look at the ball and they want to look at the you to sleep they want to just get there and then when they have to turn it on that defender it's no different than a cornerback in the nfl he's gonna be caught flat-footed right because he's slowing down and holland does it brilliantly in that clip the clip's unbelievable i put it on my instagram because it's so focused on him and he's walking and the defender's doing this and the defender goes like this and he's gone yeah so even even i was told at 22 23 dude stop running because it's easier for a defender to react because you're buzzing and he just follows you yeah you got to get him to stop and then go just separation yes now messy at his heyday was the quickest player on the field hands down he was when i played against him he was wearing i think he wasn't even wearing 10 yet for argentina it was 2007 copa america and he had this aura around him but what i noticed and he was what 18 19 at the time what i noticed was the moment he wanted to right erling holland and mbappe over 60 70 yards they cannot they cannot run and that's why when americans go well the best athletes dude did they our sport like we've got really good athletes right chris richards is an absolute stud of an athlete it's more than that oh yeah well i mean holland's a perfect example he's an incredible athlete but it's the fact like the art of finishing a goal like that takes like harry kane is the same way yeah harry kane's like totally okay he's not you know the best player he's not like lighting it up athletically wise but he can he knows how to yes put the ball in the back of the net it's a craft yeah it really is a craft do you think if i were to give you odds on uh france or the field at this point who are you taking france i would have taken france before the tournament they're so good and they're so deep they could have three teams in the world cup and all three would be in the round of 16 yeah they're that good um what is it about them they do an unbelievable job developing their so if you look at the senegalese algeria morocco france if you look at all of those players in this world cup france had a a touch and like i want to say 80 it might be a little less on all of them in development wow so there's something about france where they develop the masses and then they throw their fishing net out and see who wants to come and then the other ones go play for other countries we got to start doing that dude we we gotta do it more you're 100 correct yeah i'm telling you there's some value to thinking let's just develop everybody in the united states yeah and if they want to go play for bosnia or mexico so what but at least it gives us the better odds of having three weston mckinney's yeah france is insane you think about zinedine zidane could have played for algeria his son is playing goalkeeper for algeria they just their development is they are as athletic as any team in the world maybe more athletic but tactically in technique wise they're the next level yeah i did it i wrote the list out top 10 best attacking players in the world France has three of them it's crazy Olise Dembele and Mbappe and you could argue Olise is probably top six so they have three of the top six it's insane yeah they've been dominant so if it's not France who would it be I think I think we're going to repeat guys I do I think it's France against Argentina really I think France will play in their third straight world cup which is I think only Brazil was Zico did it maybe yeah maybe Italy I'm not positive and then I think Messi and Argentina it's just it just I just think the stars are aligned Cape Verde Egypt I just feel like they're finding ways to get out of it but when they meet in the final against France I just feel like France is going to be a difficult test for them yeah yeah I mean that would be I mean Argentina now plays Switzerland yeah right right Switzerland to beat Colombia and penalties that's a little bit of an upset Colombia should have won that game they didn't it's just like Argentina kind of has this field set up where it's like boom we're in the final yeah and then and then with Brazil what's wrong with Brazil they lost their aura yeah how I was in the building I was in the building 2014 they lost to Germany yeah 7-1 that game at home that was it you would have thought it was the funeral of the entire nation yeah 7-1 guys it was so there used to be this feeling and I played against Brazil I'm going to say three or four times when you walked out and you saw yellow blue and white you immediately needed to change your underwear because you're like I'm going to be running my ass off defending this entire game they were they they they were they're them right dude they haven't had that since 14 no none of it they don't play beautiful anymore no they play scared there's they play samba music in the stadium and I'm watching a team they have 38 possession and lost to Norway yeah okay statistically since that's the game I'm going to be running my ass off defending that's the lowest Brazil's ever had in a world cup knockout round game and they were scared they had chances of course I mean they missed penalties all that but still you're Brazil right yeah samba meant you knock it around you move around yeah oh it drives me it's a real it's a loss for the world game I'm going to tell you that right now yeah because they're the number one country in the world in exporting professional players still to this day there's no country that produces professional players like Brazil but they don't have any of that what we used to love the swag so can you if you were to just kind of map out how the next couple weeks are going to look what is going to be the heartbreaking moment for England because you you you kind of said earlier it doesn't sound like it's coming home I was rooting for them against Mexico because I thought it was too early for them to be out I wanted them to be out later and I hate Mexico yeah right but I was like my rival so but I also was just like this just feels the round of 16 and they were awesome like that doesn't feel right for a great English heartbreak we don't know totally the jadedness of the fan yeah they can't lose that yeah they gotta they gotta lose gotta come in deeper yeah they have more heartbreaking fashion totally they have to fully believe again and then once at that moment where they fully believe that it's coming home it they will realize that it is not I mean right now they're playing Norway in the quarterfinal yeah there's no way they lose that game is there yeah that might be it you know what I mean yeah think about it Erling Haaland has literally eight every defender in the Premier League's lunch for the last three years for Man City you might be right yeah you might be right could that be the moment yeah that's it right there my professional soccer opinion I I don't I think England beats them I think they're a better team than Norway overall I do too yeah but Norway's got something going that it's hard to match and they remind me yes they remind me a lot of 94 Sweden and that team went to the semifinal in 94. there's just there was an aura with that Swedish team Norway's got something going right now they just and their goalkeeper has been fantastic he's not getting enough credit because Erling Haaland everything he touches hits the back of the net yeah but their goalkeeper is brilliant against Brazil brilliant yeah um all right Taylor this has been awesome I got one last question rowback question r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts rowback.com all right back to this tournament that you're about to play in American Century Championship last you last year I saw you because I stayed for the weekend and I saw you on Saturday after your round you were tied for first yep can you win it win it yes so what happened on Sunday real simple hole give me a minute hole four I had a 14-foot Eagle putt and it rimmed out that goes in I have a five-point lead four-point lead um and Joe having played with Joe numerous amount of times Joe's a gamer Joe could double the first hole like he did last year and he will put his bootstraps on and he'll dig in but that would have been a nice little yeah right and then two holes later I had eight foot for birdie and the same thing it rimmed out and came back to me and that's when I was like okay so they you're gonna test me this way right the thing I'm most proud about was even after those two holes I still got to a whole 14 or 15 with a lead right then the wheels came off I shoot one over Joe shoots three under boom yeah it's over so I just I hit whatever number of greens I hit I think it was like 48 in a row big bear I just got to make punch yeah I gotta make putts I gotta make it in a row we gotta make putts here dude you guys played this course the other day it's I think I hit a green you got me too you have to make putts yeah you have to yeah I mean I hit I I hit my best shot on the par three was eight seven oh yeah and uh then I four putted he's got a five yes you have to make big putts yeah and that's the thing so there's there's about eight nine really good sticks that can flip it up turn it turn it up but again it's pressure you've got to show up and the one thing I haven't done a good enough job is pars are fine you need them you're better off making birdies and bogeys if you want to win yeah but if you want to just compete and be in the final group make your par shoot two under one under whatever it is but that's where the Marty fish is John Smoltz like John Smoltz last year 31 on the back or whatever the number was yeah he just flipped it up yeah right so that's what you honestly in order to win it that's what you have to do all right who can win it so Smoltz uh Marty can win it yes Joe Pavelski Steph Curry for sure who else can win um Jake Owen is a sneaky good stick can Romo win it Romo absolutely can yeah Romo and I love you buddy but you're probably on the range right now doing a million different exercises Romo will hit 7 000 balls so it's up but Romo absolutely can um but it just comes down to Sunday who makes putts and who doesn't yeah and that's really what it comes down to you cannot win it on Friday which I've learned but you can lose it on Friday if you don't just stay the course and make birdies but make your pars and just get points yeah yeah no doubles and you stay you stay the course when do you find out who you're playing with on Friday honestly I I'm so wrapped up at other side I'd never know but the email email or text comes Thursday okay okay but I asked this year I said if the United States beats Belgium I would really like the first tea time so you might still so I can watch it so I don't know I might have the first tea time and they're like yeah let's just give it to him anyways um because obviously I wanted to watch that game and that would have been read at like 12. so you're the jinx I'm the Jax yeah maybe the stars are aligning sure no it's great that's awesome let's not talk about Trump for the president you're the jinx all right well Taylor boys this was awesome we love having you on and uh best of luck this tournament and yellow sucks yeah yeah piece of you're afraid to compete in the home run Derby okay let's wrap it up guys on chill Henry is actually a great one uh yeah is it chill to not give a about sports until the playoffs NFL and college football are my exceptions I admit I get rock hard in the pigskins on my TV but NBA MLB college basketball seemed like such a drag to watch the regular season but when playoffs roll around I get very invested in love with storylines in conclusion make regular seasons mean something again I don't in the conclusion I don't regular seasons there's just sports where I think it's okay for some people to like watch every game of and but the people that watch every game of every sport like that's a lot I think it's I enjoy watching the playoffs of like baseball and hockey yeah I'll watch every playoff game of any team the regular season I'm not like I just am not a person that's going to be like I'm watching every regular season game it is it's more fulfilling if you're invested all season and then you're like all right now we're in the play like if you see the ups and downs of a baseball season and then you get to playoffs but yeah I mean getting older and like realizing maturity is like you don't have to watch every single game of every single thing to be like hey I like this sport I like this team also sometimes life gets in the way like it's it's tough if you want to be like a die-hard baseball fan watch every game you basically have to just that's all you do in the summertime is like your schedule revolves around baseball but there is there is like like the the Cubs for example this year are actually hilarious you know the most schizophrenic team I can remember a long time in the fact that they've had that they had two 10 game winning streaks they had a 10 game losing streak they have last week they scored 22 runs on Wednesday and then lost 17 to 1 on Friday it is fun to like experience the absolute roller coaster and get into like a mindset where it's like I'm not going to freak out about any result that called Cubs have day to day because they're just they make no sense and that's that part is actually fun but like the world cup for example it's chill to just hop on the bandwagon oh yeah for a couple weeks and like i think in cities and stuff it's like yeah when your city's team is in the playoffs it's like all right i'm fucking i'm watching every game in the playoffs yeah i think it's chill i think it is chill i've always thought taking a nap on a saturday sunday afternoon with golf on the tv backgrounds one one of ideal nap situations wanting to get your take on the perfect nap looks like love the show you guys are the best i mean yeah that's that's the classic nap we've done mount rushmore best naps i think we might have i think we have best times to fall asleep um perfect nap is like early or springtime or fall windows open game on little fall sleep on the couch get like the fresh air coming in fall sleep and then like it's the really perfect nap is like a saturday afternoon falling asleep at like maybe a couple minutes left in the first half of the afternoon window and then waking up like halfway through the third quarter and and being like all right let's go like we got you know 25 games finishing right now that's that's a beautiful nap i also like the post thanksgiving nap at about like five or six p.m had a few glasses of wine bellies full right before then you wake up and you get the you get the leftover sandwich uh that's a pretty good nap too windows open though so right after a long beach day like day in the sun golf right after golf yeah but like beach beach and then waking up and it's still like ready for dinner like yeah like yeah but you also have to time it correctly because there's nothing worse than than doing the nap where you sleep too much and you and you wake up and you're like what fucking time is it where am i i slept too much it's like that that nice like 20 minute i i feel like if i go longer than like 30 minutes i get fucked up the road trip nap is also a good nap it's a good nap it's a good nap it's a good nap because it feels like you teleported yeah like oh we've got like three hours and next year it's all 15 minutes and then we're there hank loves that one i do my naps now are just like how long can i those are like those are naps out of necessity like yeah not really comfort my neck is the best sleeper of all yeah by far i got super seasick on one on a boat last week and at one point we just lost him and he actually just passed out like for like a good 30 minutes of this boat trip his body just deactivated yeah you're basically my puke my three-year-old we went on a boat last week and my three-year-old just laid down on the floor of the boat and just napped for 20 minutes this is the hank move i thought it was one of those things he was like i'm seasick and then he went to like another part part of the boat and his eyes were closed obviously because he was sleeping but i thought he was like oh shit he's really going through it he like yeah he like needs to close his eyes and i talked to him after he's like oh no i was just asleep like pass out that love that love that also my naps now are just how long does it take to sleep how long can i fall asleep until my kids find me and they always find me fast what's up fellas i'm 27 i've been playing men's league baseball for the last two years i ran d1 track but also played football and baseball growing up my men's league is really competitive with a lot of former college players and so organized they have historical stats going back 20 years whoa i'm closing in on the stolen base record in a season this league sounds like the worst by the way hold on though i hear about this because i i agree with you max but unless everyone is opted in how do i be more chill in men's league is there any way to be chill in men's league baseball do i go for the record anything else get in a different league but but in a weird way if everyone is opted into like taking it super seriously and taking and keeping records then you're signing up it's the the problem with like the rec sports is when you show up and there's just one team that's just taking it way more seriously than everyone else like if they're signing up they're signing up they're signing up these guys are just super hardos and they're like this is our super hardo league god bless them but it sounds like this guy is not he might not because the way that he's asking this question no that he's like this is a league that they take way too seriously and i'm finding myself also taking it too seriously and i don't like what i'm becoming and you know what you're right buddy you don't like what you're becoming because men's league baseball steals and men he's got it yes but can we all agree he's got to go for the record has to go for the record you're already you're a douchebag get the record i also i like that he's he's not he's acknowledging what what he but he has to get this right you gotta get the right because actually that's actually the least chill thing is to take it so seriously and not get the record yeah then you're the biggest loser of all time because at least if you're like yeah i take my my men's league super seriously oh yeah and by the way i'm the ricky henderson of the league then everyone's okay cool that's that's sick dude steals in a men's league is like that's not even something you ever bring up even if someone asks you i it would be funny though if it went even harder if this league like there was a fantasy league that people could like follow along and have players from this super hardo team and like compete against each other oh i got this guy he's racking up the steals this year i'll never forget that season yeah all right last one uh bartender here any advice on remaining chill behind the bar chill levels are high to start the night but after a few hours chill levels can be expected dealing with drunks all night everyone loves a chill bartender so the chiller i am directly correlates to the level of tips i get help a brother out also i know pft is just going to say there's an easy solution to this just get drunk that's not really an option so any other ideas would be much appreciated okay that was my suggestion um maybe just have if you just have like some fake whiskey people like it when you take shots with them at the bar true so you can pour yourself like a fake shot when you see a group of people doing a shot then it looks like they'll give you big tips i like that idea that's a good idea um i i i don't really know what else like smoke breaks just use your smoke breaks or just smoke wisely job yeah get some cool visors yeah get some cool visors maybe smoke some weed do some coke i don't know i don't really know like it's it's a really hard job to be a bartender after like being around drunk people that much by the end of the night has to be so grating and so like hard to deal with so i think it's really just yeah get really drunk with them i feel like he's right i feel like we're all also like overdosing on gas fumes right now yeah that's fine i like to smell gas yeah it's pretty good it's good it's good it's really good all right you want to do uh numbers random generator let's do it random number generator 17 12 16 zach would you like to make a prediction for how you do tonight on your cooking zach is doing our annual our annual zach grills for the whole squad night how are you feeling i feel good about it i got some reps in at this point i feel like i can put together a decent meal yeah i think you've i think you've done it like three two or three times so it's more than the annual i think twice last time they caught us on a grill that may have had a lot of airbnb grill had a lot of stuff at the bottom of it we had a little bit of a fire i'm gonna make sure to clean out the grill even better this time so we can avoid flames yeah all right uh 50 ready 44 36 anyone say 36 you don't want to win these 36 36 yeah these mickey mouse zach you're bleeding yeah yeah i was gonna are you bleeding after this what's happening picking my cuticle sometimes so i just ripped one i would love to help zach with the with with the meal one of these years no it's better for zach to just he can handle it makes we can have some we could have like a real good family meal he can do this we could but we could do we could do it would be elevated i could do like a pasta all right fine i'll let you i'll say that you make a pasta you can you can't go outside deal all right yes you can't go outside that's fine you can do anything you want and you're gonna make us bread bread boy no i can i'm bad at making bread that's me which is crazy because you make it all the time we well according to me you love bread happy birthday to robbie fox good guy robbie fox and oj simpson bad guy roger simpson and alec engel any any missed memes trying to find some okay striking out memes striking out this embarrassing no memes you got any no you've been on the show kevin beacon has been on the show okay good one good for him love you guys so you're gonna be on the show kevin beacon have you been on 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