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Matan & Tommy Chong Get Robbed By Gangster Mid Podcast

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Matan & Tommy Chong Get Robbed By Gangster Mid Podcast

Tommy Chong, a veteran comedian and self-proclaimed "chief," shares a rich, philosophical, and often humorous reflection on life, history, and human nature. He explains the origin of his name, emphasizing age and wisdom over rivalry with Tim and Eric. Drawing from personal memories, he discusses his early exposure to World War II and views war as a natural, inevitable conflict rooted in basic human needs. Chong presents marijuana as a natural, non-addictive medicine, critiquing societal stigma and political manipulation, including racial bias in language and media. He shares anecdotes about pets, the Vietnam War, and the disfiguring traditions of African tribes to illustrate how humans adapt and survive through cultural and physical transformation. Chong reflects on political figures, suggesting they are tools of larger forces for societal change, and promotes a worldview where all experiences—good or bad—are lessons in life. His conversation blends satire, personal experience, and deep insight, concluding with a celebration of human resilience, interconnectedness, and the absurdities that define existence.

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Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the podcast for today's guest. We have Tommy Chong. Welcome in. Yes, you can come in now. Thank you. Nice to meet you. For today's co-host, we have my manager, viral flooring. Welcome in viral flooring. Yeah, that's your mic. If you want to just pull it close to yourself, send a little bit of a strange position. Will I need it? Yes, just to talk. Will I get a chance to talk? Yeah, to record audio. So in case anybody does, you know you please introduce yourself and all that one. I'm Tommy Chong and I'm here in protest and duress. Oh no, that's the sovereign citizen. No, I'm Tommy Chong and father or brother of chief Chong. Blood related? No, but you know, technically. And I wanted to ask you, why did you decide to call a chief in Chong and not Chong and Tim? Do you think you're better than Tim? No, I'm a poet as well as a songwriter. Right. And musician and teaching Chong to close better. What about Chong and Tim? No, it didn't sound right. Because Tim thought he was better than Tim or Eric thought he was better than Tim from Tim and Eric. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Tim thought he was better than Tim. Yeah. Yeah, one more. I know I'm older than Chief. So that makes a difference. I'm older. Not smarter. He's smarter. Yeah. I'm more educated. You're more educated. No, Chief. Chief is really educated. Like he's got a degree in English and he was a Jeopardy champion. Okay, what about Tim in all this? Where does Tim come in? Who? Tim. Tim. Tim Hidecker from Tim and Tim. Oh, no clue, man. Okay. Because Tim has a show and he thinks he's better than Eric, but he's Tim, but he named him Tim after himself, but then he put Eric last. So I was asking if you thought you were better than Tim because you didn't even include him in the name. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. You'll have to excuse me a little bit because besides being old, I'm deaf. Okay. You have a hearing problem? Yeah. You want me to? I can speak louder if it helps. Yeah. Okay. But it won't make any difference. I still don't understand shit. Okay. It's okay though. I've come to grips. In fact, I kind of enjoy it. Well, it seemed like you've been understanding what I've been saying so far for the most part. Oh, yeah. I read lips. You were born in 1938, the year before World War II. Who did you want to win at the time? The war? Yes. At the time, I really had no clue what war was. I was too young. No, you just go with the flow. Actually, I was a little older when my mother would take us to the movies and they had the newsreels and that's when we, you know, that's how you learned about the war. Yeah. Yeah. And once it ended, I'm sure at that point you kind of understood it a little better at the time. Were you regretful of who won? I don't think anybody won, did they? Well, just like who won, you know, like kind of it was the western side. If you know what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. No. Would you have preferred Germany had won the war? No. With me, you know, at the time, I was too young. I was more interested in what Tidio was going to suck. Right. What about now? Did you regret it? I've got a really, I've been blessed and I have a lot of insight that I try to share, but the war is a natural order of things in our, in our, in this planet called Earth, because this is a physical planet, that plane that we're on. And, and it's also. It's just unfortunate the way it works out sometimes. What's that? Like Germany probably could have held all of Europe if they didn't go into Russia. But held it for what? They could have had all of Europe and then maybe they had, but they're again, what are they, look, what are they trying to win? What are they winning? They're trying to make, they were trying to make the world a better place is what, you know, you think? That's what they came. By killing people? Well, it so was, you know, I don't know, I don't know. No, you know what they're waiting for. It's very simple. It's a haves against a haves nots. Right. If you've got food and I don't have any food, then I'm going to try to get your food one way or another. That's, and that's, that's the nature of our existence. You see, in order to survive this physical plane that we're living in, we have to accept the fact that you have positive and negative. And you have to eat food. And you have to eat. Right. In order to live. Did you know if a dog is too loud and you give it a lot of weed, it will be quite forever. That's for sure. Have you ever tried that before? It's something I've done with my neighbor's dog. You did? Yes. You give it to us in the weed? Well, I mean, off air, I have to cut this. I did, I just put it, he was an outside dog. I just put it all in his food bowl. And he ate it? He in past tense. He's not a weathe us anymore. Yeah. Well, dogs lead anything. Yeah. Like humans. He had no, that's why humans are called dogs sometimes because they're very basic, you know. Yeah, but I'm sort of an animal lover. So I didn't want to put chocolate in there and give him a stomach ache. I'd rather give him weed. So in his final hours, he doesn't even know what's happening. If you got any kind of sense, you will listen to your dog, you know, because the animals have got extra century powers that humans will never have. I don't know if I agree with that. I would say an animal is actually much less developed than a human. Well, animals are in an extension of humans. Animals are put on two weeks. Actually, we're all here. But the extension ends if the dog eats too much weed, then he's no longer here. That's that's right. The thing is, we're all related. Everybody, anything alive on this planet, we're related. I don't know about. I don't know if I would agree with that. I don't like if I'm related to a bug. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think so. Well, the system you take, uh, ant colony, for instance, you know, they have organizations. But if you, but the organization, it's not, it's like, imagine how tougher it would be to take down a building and then imagine how easy it is. You just pour Gatorade and it will flood their systems. You'll be able to kill the whole colony. Why would you want to kill anybody? I don't want to answer my house. And if I take them down from the outside of their field, it's like, it's sort of like what the Germans were doing, but the difference is that I'm fighting ants. No, but the German, it was again, you know, ignorance. You learn from ignorance. We're here to learn, by the way. Right. That's why everything is so imperfect because we're here to figure it out. And, uh, you know, uh, that's the beauty of, uh, and when you come to the realization that everything is a lesson, then there's no such thing as, uh, good or evil. There just is. Well, you know, maybe there was good at some point, but it ended in the 40s. Do scientists say weed is bad for young people because it destroys your frontal lobe or because they want to live the weed for themselves? Who said that? The scientists, they say that if you're under 25 and your frontal lobe isn't fully developed, you can mess with it. But I think that maybe they just want all of the weed for themselves. No, I know. Again, you know, the scientists have wrote that probably didn't smoke weed. Right. Or they smoked a lot. You could go the other way because because they're coherent and they said something that was brilliant. Oh, so you agree with the scientists? Uh, I have no idea. I don't know who's right or who's wrong. You know, it's way beyond my ability to, you know, so would you give, if you want, like, would you give weed to a baby, would you say? I wouldn't give weed to anybody, you know, if they asked for it, if they needed, of course. In fact, uh, by the way, the reason we got it legal was because, uh, the, um, TZ, TZ, TZ, TZ, TZ. Niggie's got me. Go on crazy for some TZ. Well, what's up? Okay, that's sort of like a transaction gone wrong, I guess. I don't know. I'm not really involved with the whole thing. I see where you got followers. Yeah. No, I don't know. That's not my follower. I don't know what that is. I don't know. That was a little strange. You weren't in the room. I just witnessed that. That was, that was odd. I don't know what that was. A big surprise. Well, it's definitely a, it fits in with a studio look. Yeah, it's a beautiful place. It's actually a complete contrast. It's white versus black. It's so many ways. Right. So many ways. I love it. Thank you. That was, that was good. What did the Vietnamese bankers say to the clients? Why did? I don't know what. So we see the information on this card is a one. Do you get it? No. Because it's like a Vietnamese guy doesn't really speak English well. So he starts mixing the words and gives them different syllables. Okay. Okay, let's move on. Excuse me for laughing, but no, it's okay. Have you ever dealt with the Vietnamese banker? Vietnamese Vietnamese Vietnamese Vietnamese Vietnamese from Vienna. No, not Vietnamese. Like, well, they were the enemies, but like the little guys in those tunnels, they would look a little pop shot with little rifles. Oh, those, all the Vietnam. Yes. Oh, those guys. Oh, yeah. They were tough. They were tough. Well, think about it. They, they, they've never been conquered. Who wants to conquer that stuff? No, everybody tried the Chinese, the Americans, and they kicked everybody's bass. Everybody went running by America. I had to throw their helicopters off the boats so they could get the hell out of there. The Vietnam War correct me for a moment. It was after World War II, right? Yes. So why didn't the Americans just send Dina nuclear because they had already developed it? Because there's no, nuclear is the finish of everything. No, but at that point, not that many countries had nuclear, especially Vietnam. Well, they had to do it with Japan because Japan would never stop fighting. Right. You know, they would have fought till everybody. I'd argue they should have done a couple more. You think? Well, I think so. I mean, I think that ideally, if they had done one to Vietnam, then you would have saved all that time and money. No, you wouldn't have saved nothing. You would have dropped a note. There would have been no Vietnamese war. No, no, no, no, no. Here's the thing. The Vietnam Vietnamese got their own land, and they've been fighting everybody ever since. Right. And, and by the way, as histories proven out, you know, that when Jean Fonda was there, she knew the war was unjust, unjust meaning there was no reason for Americans to be there, other than money. Well, maybe they wanted the money. Is that not okay? As you said, everybody has to get what they need in life. Yeah. So maybe actually the Americans deserve Vietnam more than the Vietnamese thing because look, 70 years later, it's still not greatly developed. I would argue with the Vietnamese Vietnam. Do you want to live in Vietnam? I've been there. I love it. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I have. And so I'm just taking again. The food is incredible. It gives you a bad stomach ache. That's what I heard. No, you got a, if you got a stomach ache, because you got to figure out more than food. No, Vietnam is a beautiful place. That whole area, Laos and Cambodia, and it's very special too. You've been to those places? Yeah. Okay. Well, I've been to be, I've been, take it back. I've been to Vietnam. I've been on the make on Delta, the river. And, uh, and yeah, yeah. No, I've, uh, I've come to grips with a lot of things and war. It's inevitable. Hey, guys, or for the eruption, after let you know that today's episode is sponsored by hymns. Hair loss is ingest about the hair. It's also about the confidence. 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Individual results may vary based on studies of topical and oral, minoxidil, and Finasteride featured products include compounded drug products with DFDA does not approve or verify for safety, effectiveness, or quality. Prescription requires you website for full details, restrictions, and important safety information. How have you considered that since you're a bit older, you could probably do a crypto scam and get away with it? You do what? A crypto scam? So you don't even know what it is, that's the whole point. Crypto? Crypto. I did crypto. I got robbed, actually. Oh, you got robbed? Yeah. Oh, okay. Computer robbed. Yeah. It wasn't actually me, it was my son, but it was because of me that we had crypto. And then some scam artists come along. Oh, so you actually, well, I was saying you could do it on the, like, you could be the scammer, like, you could post to all your followers and then rug pull them and they would probably not think it's your fault since you're older. They would assume that it's like a manager or something and you wouldn't get any blame. I'm not worried about blame. I'm not worried about being rich, especially. Right, but you could make a couple million in a couple days. But then what would you do with it? See, that's the problem we have now. Yeah, I agree. I think that might be true, but I don't know. I was just thinking because I'm always thinking in terms of like money, like, sort of how I talk it to make money and all of that stuff. And with you, it's like, it just seems like you have a golden opportunity because nobody would get upset at you because you're in your 80s, nobody would say, hey, you know, fuck Chong, you did a crypto scam, they tell you got taking advantage of you know what I mean. You really have a golden opportunity here. What good is money to buy a cheesets? Buy what cheesets? Yeah, but you can also grow your own. No, you can't grow a cheesets. Well, you can grow something crunchy and salty because that's all you got there. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Instead of growing stuff, and it's not the same. What are you saving? What do you mean? Why? That's what I'm saying about money. See, money can be, you know, in the, you know what the e-ching is? E-ching? E-ching. No, I don't. It's I, dash, CH-ing. It's called the Book of Changes. Okay. And the Book of Changes is written by a Chinese wise person 5,000 years ago, and it tells your fortune. In fact, I'll have you write it down, and you can go on the internet and get the book. It'll change your life. Okay, but the e-ching as for it tells your fortune, tells what you what's coming your way, and the e-ching states that like winning the lottery is a misfortune. Right. And the reason is is that you've got money. If you don't know what to do with money, it's useless, you know, unless money is made out of cheeses, and you can eat. Yeah, but look at the issues happening. There's a fight, not another fight going on now about it. He was so happy to get it, and then he got it taken away. Look at his smile fading. Is this how you're selling your cheeses? This is not mine. That's my manager. I didn't even know he was in the cheesered business. Maybe he likes it because it's red like him. It's the same color. I love it. And what age would somebody stop smoking weed? Any age. Any age, but it's like a cutoff point where it's like the guy is 180. You know, you got to remember the great thing about weed marijuana cannabis is it is a medicine. Okay, and it's not addicting psychologically addicting, but it's not physically addicted. I met some people who I would start pretty addicted to weed. Well, choice of choice of choice. Well, I would say that it's of choice, but their mind is so weak that they don't even have the choice to fight it. But that's better because I'm talking about I'm talking about physically addiction. Yes. Okay. For for a long time, people said the worst thing about weed, it was a gateway drug that led to the heavier stuff, the heavier stuff, meaning anything that's coding or not coding, but cocaine, heroin. Now heroin is addicting cocaine is addicting. And when I mean addicting is that your body craves it to the point that you will rob banks. But you also will rob banks and rob a store if you need something to eat so maybe actually that would suggest that cocaine isn't so bad. To stay alive. Yeah but you need to stay alive and don't need coke to stay alive. If you're that hungry you don't have the strength to rob anybody. Well if you if you take a little bit of coke you'll get a lot of energy. What I was trying to say about weed is that you don't have to smoke it. You do it by choice. Right but the freedom of the freedom. That's what we got as human beings. We have the freedom to do what we want to do and and we used one of them. Weed was always a medicine. Right up until America decided to demonize it and call it marijuana because marijuana is a slang word a Mexican word that that points everything to the Mexican. And you say when you make it suspicious it's a little Mexican. You're saying that you know Mexican's a little suspicious or they put it over there. Well no well the Mexicans are well look what Trump's doing with the with the ice you know arresting arresting people because they're brown brown. Right you know he's doing it for headlines but he's getting him. Are you a Trump supporter? My Trump supporter. Yeah. No but I understand why he's here. I understand what he's doing. But I think he was saying here to save the entire world. Not just America. I'm hoping one day. Oh he is. I think I want him to but he you know how he's doing it. He's doing it with just like the there's the thing called negative publicity. Yeah but that is a matter because he already won the election so he the publicity all he needs to do now is save the world. Oh yeah he'll do it but he'll sacrifice himself doing it. He already has. But that's what I'm saying. That's that's how you know that he's a great person but it's not by choice. Yes. He's going to sacrifice because he's being used by the universe to to make things change in society. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that he was already. Yeah basically. Yeah. Well you saw a lot of people who considered a perfect life and he didn't have the perfect life. Just to save the world to sacrifice Chinese, the Vietnamese and you know why he sacrificed it because he was sent here to save to save everybody. No not at all. I think so. No what it is is that his ego forced him in there. I don't think he has even an ego. I think almost it'll sound mean but I mean this in a good way. I think Trump maybe doesn't even have a brain. It's just pure amazing. He's that he's helping him do everything. It's like he doesn't even have instinct. No he only has all you know he says that he's got got feeling. Oh yeah that's all he has. He doesn't think he just knows where to go. And he's being used by the universe. Yes but not by anybody because he's above any other human. By the universe. The universe. That's why that's why Trump will say only I can fix the world. Only I can do it. I know they're feeling. I have the same feeling by the way. Right. Only I can understand. Like with with with Cheech and Chong. I named us and it wasn't me by the way. The power that drives me. Like I say God and put me on a mission. And what's your relationship like with Chong nowadays? With Cheech. Chong. I'm Chong. You're Chong? Yeah. So who's Chong? Who is Chong? Yeah. Cheech. Cheech me. Who's that one? Cheech is a Mexican. Oh so you're saying that your friend Chong? No I'm Chong. I don't understand. I'm Chong. Okay. I'm Tommy Chong. My partner. I know that. My partner's Cheech. Yeah. And our relationship today. No what's your relationship? Now with Cheech I'm sure you guys are doing well. What's your relationship like with Chong? Your friend. Oh with myself? No. Your friend from the movies. Chong? It's one and one. It was same. They're no separate. I thought you guys were a duo. Cheech and Chong. I am. And so I'm what's my relationship with Chong? Yes. Uncomfortable. What happened? You guys had a falling out? No. Chong got deaf and he got his eyes eyes are going and his penis stopped working except for peeing. Only thing he can do is pee. Well that's better than time. Yeah. That's better than not. I don't even have to ask you know. I have to wear a drawstring pants so I can whip it out whenever I need to. And I don't have to worry about being arrested because I'll be acquitted for lack of evidence. So I'm okay. You could argue insanity. Not if you're insane. No that's how you argue it. If you're insane you don't know that you're arguing. No you could be insanely intelligent. What about that? That's what you can be intelligently insane. Yes both work with a mean a little different things but yes. Well that's true. If you had a time machine would you go back and stop MLK? MS Martin Luther King? Yes. Would I go back? To stop him before what he did. What did he do? The civil rights act and everything that followed. Oh you mean he complained about being treated like an animal? Well you know the world isn't always fair. Sometimes you take what you get and you don't get upset. I guess you didn't learn that in school. You get what you get and you don't get upset. Did you go to school? I went to up until like 9th grade sort of. Me too. Okay so we actually are similar. No actually I went back. I tried to get my high school and I got grade 10. I squeaked through grade 10 and then halfway through 11 I gave up. That's when I discovered pot. That's the exact same thing that happened with me just without the pot. That's what happened. I've never smoked before. So it's very similar though. I quit in 10th grade and then 11th I just stopped doing all of the work. Okay. So they've been sending me mail asking if I'm coming back but now I'm 18 so it doesn't matter anymore. You're 18? Yes. Oh you're a youngster. Wow. And you're this far. I appreciate it. A lot of people think I'm a little bit older. You know I you know some people think I'm lying about my age but I'm not. It's just like like just you know business and stuff like that one. Oh you got lots to learn, haven't you? Yes. Yeah you got that 16-year-old hair. Yeah. Yeah that's good. I think hopefully it will stay for a long time but I'm not sure. Enjoy. Enjoy why you got it. Hey guys are for the eruption. I have to let you know that today's episode is sponsored by Factor. Fall can always feel like a headache. You know shorter days who has the time to cook food. That's why I love Factor. 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So that's why you went to jail? No, think about it. No one else went to jail and there were like a lot of bomb sellers. There are still selling bombs by the way. But Bush was doing his Iraqi war and he was trying to do what Nixon did with the hippies and so I was the only guy around selling bombs and so he attacked me or put me in jail. Were you family said the time? Oh yeah. But you know when you consider what you consider what Bush did in the Iraqi war he was similar to Trump. He was trying to also stop the terrorists. That's what I heard. I mean he didn't drop a nuclear but he actually killed way more people than the nukes in Japan if you think about it. Yeah that's true but no those guys it's all about money. Yeah. And always has been always will be. But that's what fuels America you know. It's the money. Oh the world actually. Did the ambulance ever consider it's not nice to make such a loud noise? It's not nice to make such a loud noise. Yeah. It's like it's giving me a headache. Maybe lower the noise and just speed up a little bit. You'll get there faster. What does the noise help? You got me there, pal. Yeah because I was outside recently and he gave me a headache. It's like what do I do? I can't call the ambulance overhead. I have to go to the store and buy a an Advil now and they're making money just to help some guy because he fell but now I want it's like he doesn't make any sense. I'll just look into me. and say, I got good hair. - Yeah. - That's all you got to do. - I'm gonna go to the fire station and make an issue, but I don't know if that's a good idea to try and fight the firefighters. - The firefighters, oh, man, there it is, again, you know? - Okay, guys, stop making such a loud noise. - That siren? - Yeah, it's giving me a headache. - It's too loud. - Well, rejoice that you can hear 'em. 'Cause there's come a time when-- - Yeah, but they made you deaf, maybe. - Yeah. - Did you think about that? - No, the bass. - Okay. - Guitar. - It could be a little bit of both. - That's what made me deaf, loud music. I played music-- - Like loud sirens from an ambulance or a fire truck. - Actually, they say my life because I can hear 'em. It's the stuff you can't hear that kills you. - I don't agree with that. - Okay. Do you think politics was better back in your day when you could tell a woman to stop cheating around or you would take their life? - I never really even came close to that kind of situation. - Really, that's pretty surprising. - No, no, I-- - And I've been around. I would have checked any advantage of the opportunity. - Really? And? - I would have told them, stop cheating around, or I'm gonna take your life. I would have been pretty clear about it. And you know-- - You don't wanna, no, no, no, no. - Although you're right, women, girls, ladies, especially beautiful ones, they-- - Talking, they-- - Shine up. - They like to be noticed, but they don't like to be noticed, stating the obvious. If you wanna make a ways with faith with a beautiful woman, find the flaw, whatever it is. - That's true, or you could just threaten them because then they're not gonna really be able to do anything. If you go up to a beautiful woman and you go like this and you show a gun, and they don't really have a defense, then it's, I mean, that's even simpler than trying to make a conversation. - That's scary. That's scary. - So what? What's the matter? - Well, gun is scary anyway. - Yeah, but that's the whole point to scare them. - I was on Joe Rogan's show one time, and he's a gun enthusiast, you know? And he started be rating me kind of about not, because I don't believe in that kind of violence for sure. - You don't believe people should have a gun? - No. - I'm a big second amendment guy. I think the world would be safer if everybody had a gun because then, it will also be kind of funny a little bit. - Well, you know, it's nice knowing you, you know? - Yeah, because I mean, if somebody gets upset and then they try to shoot you, you get to shoot them back. It'll be like the wild west. - If you've got to love for guns, then you're not long for this planet, you know? - I don't know any myself. I think there's some struggles. - Because you know, most suicides are cops and ex-military that have access to weapons. - Because they have PTSD from the Vietnamese. - Well, whatever they have, they have the, it could be karma too, but they have the ability to take their own life at any time. - And to me, it's like standing on the edge of a five store, or a five, or a 10 story building. - Because you could just shoot yourself at any point? - Well, no, the thing is, if it's easy to do, that you will eventually do it. - I don't know, I don't think so. Because what if you have a gun, but you can't use it, they didn't give you any bullets or it's just to scare people? That will seem intimidating. That would be a good way to intimidate a woman in today's world. - No, well, not the kind of woman you want. - Any woman will be intimidated by that, I think. I think it'll work on just about anybody. Besides one who has a gun with me. - Hey, come over here, baby, sit down. Take off your clothes, come on. Oh, why? - Well, anyway, this explains the studio. That's what I'm for sure. - If God created we to help people become closer to him, why did he create bath salts? - Bath salts? - Yeah. - To bath in or-- - No, those drugs that make you eat people? - Oh, that, oh. Again, it's probably all a form of self-destruction. - Self-help. - Self-destruction. - Why destruction? - Because that's what baths, all drugs, bath salts-- - But you're not eating yourself, you should eat them. - A gun, it's the exit. It's the exit from this living life to the spiritual life. - But could you imagine how funny it would be if everybody was on bath salts and had a gun? - Well, I can direct you to some neighborhoods where you could have that experience. - I don't know if they would be on bath salts, but that's what I'm saying. If you give a guy with on bath salts a gun, he's not gonna be self-destructive. He will kill somebody and then eat them. He's destroying somebody else. He's actually like other destructive. - You can't be surprised at human-- - Big and hungry. - Well, human activity, because every tribe, every group of individuals all have their crazies. - Yeah. - And the human's definitely have them. - Do you think magic Johnson was so good because the other players didn't want to get near him? - Magic Johnson was, no, magic Johnson was good because he could take that ball called a basketball and he could throw it in a hoop and make a lot of point. - Yeah, but usually players will defend you. They'll try to obscure your vision. But with magic Johnson, it's like they're staying away. They're like trying to maybe get in his head and like shoot it, you can't shoot it. Shoot it. And then when he's posting them up with the ball, they're actually, they don't know what to do. - I imagine, you know, well, those kind of events, or those kind of things, divide people, you know. If you got a fear, well, that's what racism is, by the way. - I think there's a difference in racism and hatred. - Racism and hatred. It's pure ignorance. And you get scared, like the boogeyman under the bed, doesn't exist, but in your mind, you see your mind. That's where everything-- - No, but magic Johnson really did have AIDS. - Yeah. - But that's what I'm saying. There's no boogeyman there that's under the bed. It's very obvious. If he bleeds and he gets in on you because it's over, your life is over. That's it. - Not just magic. Magic wasn't the only one with AIDS. - Yeah, all the other gay people, but I'm just-- - And you don't know. - What do you mean? - You don't know who's got AIDS. - Yeah, gay people. - Not just gays. - Maybe their dogs. - Babies. - Babies don't have AIDS. Unless it's an unfortunate event. - There've been babies with AIDS. People grow, yeah, no, no. - I don't think so. - It's a human thing. - That's a human thing. But you gotta-- No, I see magic every once in a while at the gym. - Oh really? - Yep. - You keep your distance. - I won't go near her. - That's what I'm saying, yeah. - Definitely won't kiss him. - Yes. - On the lips anyway. - Yeah, because then you'll get AIDS and die. And that's why the other players didn't want to-- - And if I did kiss him on the lips, I wouldn't enjoy it. - Yeah. - You're not gay, right? - Oh, it purposely. - You're not gay? - Technically, no. - Okay, that's good. - Nice to hear that. - But I've thought about it. - Well, you know, you thought about how bad that would be your entire life when you-- - Especially when you're in a mask. (beep) - You thought about being gay? - That's probably the most gay thing that anybody's ever done. - Well, not if it's to not gay stuff, right? - That's true. - Right. - I'll take it from an expert. - No, I'm not an expert. I try to stay away from all of that stuff, just in general. I think it's not-- - You're 18 and you don't-- (beep) - I think it's bad for the mind. I think it messes up your mind. If Albert Einstein invented the nuclear bomb who invented Albert Einstein. - If Albert Einstein invented the nuclear bomb. - Who invented Albert Einstein? - God. - Okay. Should people who have sex with their dogs make sure they're on birth control? - Their dogs on birth control? - Yeah. - I don't know. - I guess the best birth control is the abstinence. - Well, some people are crazy, you know. They have a dog and the dog maybe even said it's fine. So maybe it's okay. As you said, the humans are able to communicate with the dog. - I did hear a story one time where these guys paid, oh no, it's two seconds, don't I? - They paid a dog for the hookers? - Nah, I get tired, it's two seconds. Let's move on. - Well, look, he's so excited. Maybe he relates. - Hit the dog. - No, it concerns the dogs and they'll blow (beep) - Oh, okay. Somebody paid somebody to give a dog. That's a little strange, that's a little weird. But that's because, you know-- - But it ruined the dog. - It ruined the dog, what does that mean? The dog was upset? - Dog was useless, man. - Okay. - He said everybody was gonna give him a blow (beep) - I thought that. - I don't really understand, okay. - Let's move on. ♪ Treat me like a fool ♪ ♪ Treat me, me, me, and crew ♪ ♪ But I love me ♪ - What would happen to. The human body, if someone smoked a pound of weed per day. A pound of weed per day. Well, they'd probably die from munchies, probably. Smoking it, not eating apples. No, if you're smoking, and you keep smoking, then it's not good weed. Why not? What if the guy has a lot of money? It doesn't matter about money. It's about physically ability. I don't understand. If you get the right strain of weed, one toque is all you need, because it goes to the brain, it affects the brain, boom. You'll spend the rest of the day looking for something to crunch on, to eat, or drink, or-- It's going to be smart if somebody opens a restaurant, that they actually slip some weed into the food, because then the people will get more hungry and order more food. Yeah, but the thing is about weed. You don't treat it like that. Why not? Respect. Yeah, well, I guess he's not super respectful, but that's kind of the point here. He'd select to make money. But that's what I mean. You smoke weed, and you lose that ability to be-- You don't want to make money. No, to be stupid. Right away, weed will give you instinctively. A lot of times, people have problems because they don't drink enough water. Right. And weed will give you cotton mousse, and will make you drink water. That's a little racist. Racist? Yeah. Cotton mousse is not like a-- Cotton mousse? Some sort of slurp for MLK. Cotton? Oh, you mean black? I don't know. Well, they were the first to do really from Africa. And they probably brought the plants with them. And you know, the little guys walk around naked, basically. And all they got is their bow and arrow. And yet, they smoke weed. And so I asked someone from South Africa, how do they smoke it? Do they have pipes? Because for a while, they're always collecting pipes from all over. I still am, but not as much. But I said, do they callahari natives have pipes? And they said, no. So how do they smoke the weed? What they do, they take some mud and put it against a rock and stick a twig and make a mud pipe. And then they put the weed in the bowl of the mud pipe, fire it up and smoke it. Yeah, I think that-- I mean, I don't really want to get into the Africans, but they're like a little-- I mean, they're like a little crazy for being on-- What are the callahari natives? Oh, the natives are a whole different issue. Don't get me started. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like-- Oh, being in-- Move on from the thing that was 300 years ago. Find somewhere else to live. That's true. Stop trying to sell me that medicine in the bottle. I know it's just a piece of a carrot. Hmm. How can Sunday be two days after Friday, but one day before Monday, which is four days before Friday? Well, that's just the way the big old ball bounces, I guess. But it doesn't make any sense because the days there-- Oh, Sunday was supposed to be the day I'd rest. So you're saying Sunday doesn't count. So actually, Sunday is one day after Friday because you don't count Sunday itself. And then Monday is four days before Friday, so that makes it even weirder thing. How does that make any sense? Well, we don't have to worry about that now because the way AI and the computers have brought us, we don't need work days anymore. Why is that? We don't need work spaces anymore. Because we can do everything in our car or in a-- people go to court now. They sit in their car and go on the iPad. I don't think those people are going to win the case. I think those people are going to go to jail. Yeah, sure. For worse than they're even going. They're going for like stealing 50 bucks. They're indicted for murder. That's true. Usually you're for lying. Yeah. Now, I'm generally-- I don't really have an issue with weed smokers. I don't do it myself. But what about Long Neck? Did you ever hear what happened to Long Neck? Who? Long Neck. Long Neck? No, the guy. He was formerly the president of Laugos. And? He smoked a lot of weed. And then what happened is he's next started to get really long. He started to lose all the weight. And now he's in a wheelchair. And he's like this all at the time. From weed. Yeah, and he goes-- and he's asking-- Hey, get some more weed. What about him? What should they kill? Well, there's always a good side to everything. Number one, if you fly a plane, he doesn't have to walk anywhere. They wheel him. He gets to go on first on the airplane. He gets to go on. He's a more criminal. So he's not allowed in any other countries. Oh, so he doesn't have to fly? So that's another good thing. No, but he's not allowed to fly because he's a war criminal. He's a war criminal? Yeah. Oh, then he's going to go to jail? Or they're going to go-- No, but they love him in Laugos. They just don't like him anywhere else. Yeah, well, then that's all he needs to stay in Laugos. Yeah, I guess. Well, you know, I don't know. I feel kind of bad for the guy because I don't really care. I don't know what or care what he did. It's like something to do with the natives over there. And now he used to be the president. And now he makes videos where like the guy with the white neck picks him up and slams him. Yeah. Well, that's life in the human realm. So what do you say to the people that are scared of the smoke weed? They'll be like a long neck. I really don't care about anybody. Because everybody-- I agree with that. Everybody's here to learn the lesson that they're given. And whatever that lesson is, if it be in having a long neck and that, you know what I figured out? You know, back in-- way before when I was a kid, yeah. There was tribes in Borneo, most mostly, in Africa that would disfigure themselves. They would put necklaces on it. Because they're IQ is like 70. No, till their neck got really long. And just like the Chinese women-- Like from neck. The Chinese women used to make their bind their feet so they would have tiny feet. And you know why? I don't know, because they're seeking their head. No. OK. If you were close to the king, the royal court big feet was a sign of ugliness. And so if you had small, dainty feet, then you were considered royalty. Yeah, well, long neck has small feet. I mean, his whole body is disfigured. Like, imagine a very skinny guy with a very long neck, just like this old time. But I'm telling you, why the guy with long neck, people in Africa would do it on purpose. And you know why? Because they're crazy. Why would they-- no, why would they defigure themselves? I'll tell you what. They thought that the worm god told them to do it. I'm not really sure. The slave trade. Oh, yeah. That was pretty cool. They were being hunted by slave traders of all nationals. So they wanted to be able to be on the lookout? No. OK. What it was is that if you were disfigured, you weren't worth anything on the market. Unless the circus bought you. And that's probably what they would do. And so they purposely-- that's with the bone in the nose and all that weird shit. So then I mean, but you make a good point. That would be a funny circus. No, you couldn't-- you couldn't sell them on the trade thing. That's why the trade was bad. Nobody-- it actually was a circus, as you said. Oh, yeah, the circus. The circus is like a bunch of disfigured African people. That's what made circuses. Yeah, yeah. Would you go-- I would go see a show there. Yeah. Would you? Yes, I did. Yeah, well, anyways, thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. We have Longneck coming in in five minutes. Who? Longneck. The war criminal. Well, good luck right then. He has a horrible life. I'll be done? Yeah, we're done. I've never met him, but I've heard he has a horrible smell. So just be careful when you meet him outside. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I'm used to freaks. No. No, but he's white, actually. He's not African. Well, I'm-- Despite living in Lagos. Listen, I'm an equal opportunity bigot.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Tommy Chong, known as "Chief Chong," explains the origin of his name choice as a playful contrast to Tim and Eric, emphasizing his age and self-perceived wisdom over rivalry.
  2. He reflects on World War II, noting that he learned about it late in life through movies and that he sees war as a natural part of human existence driven by a "have vs. have-not" dynamic.
  3. Chong discusses the medicinal value of marijuana, arguing it is not addictive and avoids the "gateway drug" myth, while criticizing societal stigma and political misuse of terms like "marijuana" to imply racial bias.
  4. He shares anecdotes about personal experiences—such as giving weed to a neighbor’s dog and the Vietnam War—highlighting his belief in interconnectedness and the idea that all life is part of a larger system.
  5. Chong critiques political figures like Trump and Bush, suggesting they are used by larger forces for societal transformation, while questioning the morality of violence, including gun ownership and historical racism.
  6. He addresses the absurdity of human behavior, from disfiguring traditions in Africa to the "Long Neck" war criminal story, using humor to illustrate how society often punishes or devalues those who deviate.
  7. He promotes a philosophy of learning through experience, stating that all events—even tragedies or absurdities—are lessons in life with no inherent good or evil.
  8. Chong reflects on personal growth, education, and the absurdities of modern life, including noise pollution and political misinformation, concluding with a lighthearted but insightful view of human nature.

Summary:

Tommy Chong, a veteran comedian and self-proclaimed "chief," shares a rich, philosophical, and often humorous reflection on life, history, and human nature. He explains the origin of his name, emphasizing age and wisdom over rivalry with Tim and Eric. Drawing from personal memories, he discusses his early exposure to World War II and views war as a natural, inevitable conflict rooted in basic human needs.

Chong presents marijuana as a natural, non-addictive medicine, critiquing societal stigma and political manipulation, including racial bias in language and media. He shares anecdotes about pets, the Vietnam War, and the disfiguring traditions of African tribes to illustrate how humans adapt and survive through cultural and physical transformation. Chong reflects on political figures, suggesting they are tools of larger forces for societal change, and promotes a worldview where all experiences—good or bad—are lessons in life.

His conversation blends satire, personal experience, and deep insight, concluding with a celebration of human resilience, interconnectedness, and the absurdities that define existence.

FAQs

Tommy Chong felt that 'Chong and Tim' sounded too similar to the comedy duo Tim and Eric, where Tim believed he was better than Eric. He preferred 'Chief Chong' because it emphasized his individuality and experience, and he felt it sounded more authentic and powerful.

Yes, Tommy Chong believes marijuana is a medicine and not psychologically addictive. He argues that it has been used for centuries and that its demonization in America was partly due to political and racial biases.

Tommy Chong disagrees with the gateway drug theory. He believes that weed doesn’t lead to harder drugs and that people who become addicted often have weak mental control, not that marijuana itself causes addiction.

Tommy Chong believes that the war was inevitable due to human nature and the 'haves vs. have-nots' struggle. He thinks it was a natural conflict and that the outcome reflects the fundamental realities of power and survival.

Tommy Chong believes all living beings are connected and that animals have 'extra powers' humans don’t. He shares a story about giving weed to a neighbor’s dog, suggesting animals can sense things humans cannot.

He believes humans are driven by survival instincts, and that conflict arises when resources are unequal. He cites examples like the Vietnam War and historical violence to show that power struggles are part of human existence.

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