The podcast features a lively and often absurd conversation between the host and a taxi driver, Aftab Arif, who shares insights on cultural patterns in transport choices, such as foreign drivers preferring taxis over Uber due to regional familiarity and social dynamics. The discussion includes a blend of humor, speculation, and personal anecdotes—like a passenger trying to pick up and drop off at the same spot, which leads to a memorable tip about passenger psychology. The dialogue explores contentious topics such as India-Pakistan relations, national politics, and social behaviors, often framed through satirical or fictional scenarios. The driver emphasizes empathy and moral responsibility, refusing to exploit passengers or engage in harmful actions despite profitable ideas. The conversation also delves into random thought experiments, including the ethics of fake passengers, cannibalism, and hypothetical violence, all presented with a mix of wit and sincerity. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the taxi driver's role as a frontline observer of human behavior, blending personal experience with cultural observation, humor, and philosophical reflection. The episode ends with a light-hearted tone, emphasizing the value of connection and ethics over financial gain.
Hello everybody. Welcome back to the podcast for today's guest. We have a taxi driver. Welcome in You can come in now, please Thanks for coming and For today's co-host. We have my manager via flooring Welcome in via flooring Yeah, if you want to just pull the mic like this close to your mouth Hopefully People say I'm very loud, so maybe we're gonna need this one. Yeah, that's perfect Yeah, so if you could just pull the mic close and then introduce anybody introduce yourself to anybody who might not know you and all that one Yes, my name is Aftab Arif and I drive taxi yellow cab Your name is what? Aftab Arif Check in, Aftab Arif Aftab Arif? Yes. I got it. I got a good pronunciation You got it good and so do you make I mean my understanding is no you don't make any videos online. You just kind of drive taxi Yes, so is a little bit of context. I was going somewhere yesterday and then I got it got in a taxi and he was a driver And I decided he would be a great interview I hope so. Yes, now let me ask you this Why do you think most foreign drivers choose taxi instead of Uber? Is it because they don't know how to use a phone? Not then how to use the phone. You think so? Oh, I know so because it works like a little split up It's like some white some blacks some Mexican some Indian whatever he isn't then in taxi. It's like Egyptian Indian It's like just and Bangladesh you do. Yeah, well, that's foreign. It's not not a lot of white people. I Haven't seen any white people. Yeah, the white go for Uber. I Think the what is also for other people a lot of my friend. No, but taxi. It's just foreign people. No, you ever see a white taxi driver Yes, I have seen white too, but very real more common on Uber. Yes, so is it maybe a technology problem because maybe in Bangladesh or like Egypt They don't really have phones yet I don't know about Egypt but when I'm come from everybody have a phone and you're are you Indian Pakistan? Oh, so you hate Indians No, I don't okay. All my friends are from India, so yeah, but like the country. You don't like the country I don't like the country too my friend. They have a conflict with you in each other. I don't yeah, you have no conflict with them No, I all my friends are from there, so if you could choose you know and you wouldn't hurt anybody in your friends But you could send a nuclear bomb to destroy India. Would you do it? No, you explode all of them Why would you want to do a nuclear to anywhere? Well, it just maybe I thought you didn't like it. No, I'm just wrong. Okay Do you think six five Australian Harvard ranked number two terror Chad and Rogenic will avenge Clavicular's appalling frame mug to pure Romanian genetic mega frog ASU fried leader or really be just to max again into a severe cortisol spike Demoting his PSL to sub three This have nothing to do with taxi nothing to do with taxi, but you just said but you saw that on like Twitter or Tiktok I am not under that. I don't think talk nothing. No. Are you familiar with Clavicular? No, but you went like this. You went no, but you're not a DS No, now you're going. No, and you're not a no, but you went no, and you say yes. No I thought we are doing over the taxi Yeah, yeah, I thought that might be related like maybe one of your passengers was watching It's when Clavicular he was in Arizona and that guy he had a much bigger frame and he framed marked him But maybe androgenic will not get involved maybe and if he doesn't work out his cortisol with spike He'll start looking worse because you know, he's gonna be stressed out He's not gonna be able to keep his composure keep his physique, and then maybe he'll have to drive taxi - I Don't know anything about it. Okay I'm not in lot on social media. Yeah, yeah Do you relate to the taxi driver from the movie taxi driver? Ha With family matter he has kids. Yes. Why not? I have you seen the movie I have seen the movie. Yes. It's unfortunate You know the old one or the new the old one. Oh No, I haven't seen that one. I forget the doctor's name, but in the movie Yeah, Robert De Niro you never saw it. No, yeah, it's kind of lucky. Maybe I should see it. Yeah It's like he's extremely intelligent. I have a ton. There's about the Uber There's a there was a movie about Uber Uber guy at the taxi guy, but not that old movie. Yeah, well just to tell you what it's about It's like this guy. He's very sociable very intelligent and he ends up He's a taxi driver in New York and he meets this woman and they fall in love and then he ends up meeting the president and the president Gives him a position and then he kills a bunch of people in the mafia who are doing bad things to children Maybe this is the beginning to go to the president mind - yeah, so I like it. That's the way to go see that's the president even that this thing is following me - You know in the movies the things follow you Robots following is like this is following me. I think that the president is in that the president of America right there He sort of looks like him. He actually has a much better style. There you go. Yes That's my manager of our reflory He is Martin Luther King or Donald Trump Jr Martin Luther King really wow not Donald Trump by the way Donald Trump Jr. He's son So the president the president son I don't know anything about him the president is Donald Trump Yes, but his son. I don't know about him. He has a crypto company He's like scammed probably billions of dollars. He stole money. But it's good. He's a good business man. He is making money Yeah, Martin's is money my friend. Martin Luther King didn't have billions No, but he started a revolution. He did something for other people. Yeah, no And you know So would you if you could bring back Martin Luther King Jr. at the cost of Donald Trump Jr. Would you do it? You know, I don't know. No, you don't know. I don't know this thing But in which context you bring him in pull a closer to you. I mean which contact you bring him in there You meet some you just say you bring him in. Why why would you want to bring him in he's revised? Because he's from the past. No, you bring Martin Luther King Jr. back from hell and then we can how do you know he's in hell? Oh? I know I know No good That's your opinion. Yeah, maybe some people is different opinion. Would you give somebody a free ride if they had a gun? If you have a gun, why would he want a ride? He will take the car. No, he's a good guy. He has limits He needs he doesn't have money, but he doesn't want to take your livelihood. He just needs a ride He don't need the gun. I will give the ride without even gun Fire flooring. Don't do that because you're moving the microwave from him. Yes. Oh Yeah, he's doing purposely. No, no, no, no, he's doing Because it's cameras. He's annoying you. He's selling. He's trying to annoy you. No, that box is filled with billions of dollars worth a camera No, no, no, no, no, he's trying purposely. No, it's good cameras. Those cameras look at them. That doesn't look like a magic If you want one you can have one. Yes Let me see. Yeah, maybe use that in your car in case somebody shows up with the gun. There you go The only issue is that it doesn't work. It's from like a hundred years ago and the wire is Combobulated or something. I don't even know. You see they'll make it work. Yeah, I need to go around Maybe I can make it work. You think you can do it. Why not? But anyways going back to the thing What would you give something? What about this? Would you give somebody a free ride? They're they're they have a given they have a bone sticking out of their leg No, I will call 911. Yeah, they need to get to the hospital 911 that's what the there's ambulances. Yeah, but you why don't you go you taking my job just to help him though It's it's not my job. So you leave him there. No, I won't leave it. I will stay there until ambulance come I can't give him a ride when he's in jail. No, no, you you called ambulance. Yes, you leave you say Hey stupid fucking guy already is like I don't give you should find where the location is on my phone You go there you go. No, but I won't leave. I will I will wait for the ambulance. Yes. What if it's really about injury? Maybe you can run over his neck because then he doesn't have to suffer anymore. Oh my god. No, not that kind of person my friend But you're you're actually helping him. You're putting him out. He's he's begging you. Please run over my neck. Please Nobody want to do that one my friend. No, nobody wants to leave. He wants to be with Martin Luther. He's begging you Martin Luther. He lived his life. This guy's life has been lived too. He's guy's live. No, he's a single life. No, he's a bone is coming out of his hair He has bones coming out of his head. He's not imagine my hair is replaced with bones and blood clots from this guy You got to do it at that point. You have to know he didn't say your pain is screaming Please people are always whenever they heard they are in the sweat pin That's what I'm saying. Yeah, even this guy is in pain Look now that's just his way of communicating with aliens or with you Right see He built the whole cage for the aliens to come here That's why he has all of those cameras. Yeah
watch them, he doesn't want to miss any UFO sightings. Yeah, he was over, coming, coming, don't worry, coming, coming. Do you think you'd be able to improve your taxi rating? If you put molding burgers all over your car and replace the windows with very loud speakers that are saying, the window is open. If people are a hungry, then yes. Now the burgers are mold, they'll make you sick, you'll die if you eat it. Then I have to maybe take my taxi to the downtown Alley, maybe over there. Yeah, because they give the burgers to the homeless. You know, those black people in downtown Alley, it's better than what they have. They have like crawfish skulls, it's crazy what they're eating over there. Have you ever been there? Yes. Have you ever tried some of that food? No. Yeah. But I've been there. But you don't want to try the food. You stay away from it. You know, the show Bojack Horseman, that's his favorite show, Bojack Horseman, who's your favorite character? His favorite character is Bojack. Bojack, he did show his name after him, you know, like, the show is Bojack Horseman and then the main character is Bojack Horseman. I have never watched. No. Maybe check it out. Maybe after this I gonna check it out. Who's the biggest mother showed you ever drove? Oh, so you're speaking my language now? Yeah, a little bit. I'm trying to. A little bit more. You know, I don't get it. Why always people learn bad words first? I don't. You're under arrest. Take him. Take him. Just like a fucking homeless guy, he needs to get out of here. Yes. Get him out of the studio right now. How did he get in here? Can you get him out of here? That guy needs to get out of here. I didn't even notice him. He's coming back. No, keep the door locked. Get him out of here. Get him away. Get him out of the building. We'll move on. No, no, no, I forgot the question. Exactly. Yeah. That guy just fucked with my whole mind there. Yeah, who's the biggest mother showed you ever drove? Fucking annoying passenger. You want to kill? No, I don't want to kill, but I had a knowing one. Yeah, what happened? We drove. He barbed something. After 40 minutes, he just stopped here. I want to buy something. He barbed it. Then we go out. I have to drop you like a little bit too. Too left turn. Yeah. So I make a left turn. My car, the wheels, touch the middle lane. Yeah. He started yelling. I don't know how to drive. Yeah. Whatever. He can say, who let you drive all those things just because the tire touched the middle lane. Right. Because it went over the line a little bit. A little bit. And there's nobody has only alone driving. So yes. Yeah. So what did you do after he did that? You got him out of the car? Yes. I said, you know what? You can go to whatever you want to do and what do you want me to do? Did you let him arrive at his destination or you caught it short? No. I took him to the hit. Okay. Did you let him win? You should have. Until today, I never leave anybody behind my friend. No. You should have left him. You should have drove the other direction. Maybe next time. Maybe. But no, my friend. My job is to deal with all kind of people. There can be a good people, bad people, right people, wrong people. Right people. Oh, even today, believe me, I went to airport and the one guy was in front of me. He said, you go take this person because he's black. I don't want to take the black person. You know what? Even today, it happened. Literally at the airport. You sang, you didn't want to take the black person. The other guy. He said, you go ahead and take the black people. I don't want to take it. Yeah, because the passenger, because that other guy doesn't want to get robbed. No, I didn't get robbed. I took that guy. Oh, you took that guy? I took that guy. He said, he's okay. Wait. Did you end up okay? Yes. I'm here. I'm happy everything is okay. Yeah. So, everybody, my friend, this is the work I do. Why don't you hire a fake passenger to sit in your car and try to steal items from the real passenger? Fake passenger to real passenger. Yeah. You know like Uber share when you can take multiple people, Uber have it. Taxi doesn't have that. You could just lie, say, oh, it's another rider and then the guy the whole time is trying to grab shit from his pocket, trying to steal the purse, but he's doing it subtly. When you get these kind of ideas, I know it's like unbelievable smartness. Yes, exactly. Why I don't think about those things. Do you know where I got this from? I was in New York. I was on Wall Street. Okay. And I found a note. It was in an envelope. I had a metal seal on it. So, I had to take it to a decryptor. One of those guys who has magic powers, the guy who uses magic powers, he'll show that he's asking the right questions or he'll give me the ideas. I don't think he's capable of thinking of multiple words at once. Oh, he does. Look. How many ideas you have in front of him? One idea. Oh, he's one of the people ideas. No, that's one idea. One, one. Yes. Like, the table is another idea, but that's all just one. Maybe if you count the box, it's cameras and holding it. It's really just one idea. Oh, man. See? He's going to race one, two. Yeah. He's not just wonderful. He's going to racing for Formula One. He just give you money? Yes. But he's fake money with his picture on it. But I told you, he's the president, remember? So it's real money. He's the president of whom? Of my business. He's my manager. See? You listen to his ideas, man. So what do you think? Would you ever try that with the fake passenger? No, not yet. But if they're stealing like diamond bracelets and diamond earrings and phones, you could make way more money than you are right now. No, I'm happy with what I'm making. But, yeah. More is always better, though, is what they say. The more the merrier. I believe if you're happy, it's better than money. It can be both. It can be both. Happy and money. So maybe try it out. Okay. But who give you these ideas? I want to know the person. I told you. Or it coming from there. Well, some of them, yes, some of them here. You will be happy up there, maybe. Yeah, it's just, I have to extract some of them. There's like, who in there? And I have to take it out and put it on a notepad. Yes. Could an extremely large dog with a gun kill a very small dog without arms or legs? What do you think? A huge dog, a massive dog, size of you or me, is like 200 pounds. No, me, 225. Come on, man. No, there could be a dog. Come on, I'm 225, you cut 25 pound already. Come on. What do you mean? Oh, you're saying you're bigger than 200. Well, maybe I'm helping. I'm giving you a compliment. Okay. Okay. So 225 pound dog. There you go. And the dog is a genius. He has a gun. And it's basically a human. I'll rephrase it. A 225 pound human with a gun and versus a very small dog without arms or legs. He can't fight with a gun. Why can't he fight with a gun? He's a dog. No, I rephrase it. It's just a human now. It's a human with a gun and a dog, a shitty little dog, you know, like a Chihuahua, a very small dog. I hope he won't. Oh, they're in a fight. They're in like the Colosseum. Whoever doesn't win has to die regardless. I have to see my friend. I can't kill anybody. No, not you. They can fight. And one win lose, but I'm not going to kill anybody. Okay. Yes. Or anything. Hey, guys. Sorry for the no option. I have to let you know that today's episode is sponsored by HelloFresh. Nothing hits like home cooking and HelloFresh makes it easy to do more of that. HelloFresh also offers a variety of over 100 weekly menu options to choose from, including recipes from around the world. 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I'm a farmer a long time ago. Yeah, I know that's what I'm saying. So there's some secrets that farmers know about farming. Yes. What are secrets that taxi drivers know about farming? They don't only taxi drivers know. About farming? Yeah. I don't think so, dude. Do you know anything about the farming? No. I don't think so. Maybe that's a secret they know. They don't know anything. Maybe. Well, they start really secret. That can be one of them. That's one of them. Or they know, maybe, transport the things. Yeah, they're transporting the transport. That's kind of like a trucker, you know, that's not really like a taxi driver.
Sometimes I call a taxi and just put some shit in your car, yes, yeah, that's interesting Look, where I come from there. We don't have a truck so far there Yeah, you guys don't even have phones we do all you do I thought you guys were still communicating with like drawing elephants in stones That's what people believe my friend. Yes. That's not true. That's not true. Okay You're from Pakistan And you want to destroy India. No, yes Do you have me? I don't know very good ideas. Yeah, it's great idea. Yeah, great ideas That one's just from Twitter. I mean I see these guys crazy at each other. They want to kill each other They don't like each other. I agree with you. Okay each other people don't like each other When they are there when they come here. They like each other. No, no Well, I'm saying like Americans and Canadians. They're fine. You know Canadians and the Germans are fine The Pakistan India been fighting forever. What about Bangladesh? Where did they stand on this? Who's side of they on? Sometime they are within India somewhere. They change the flip flop right now there with Pakistan Yeah, that's never gonna work. You got to pick a side and that's it No politics is very bad thing my friend. What if what if Bangladesh is actually they're playing like a spy game They keep it's like oh, I'm on your team now. I'm on your team. I'm on your team. They keep tricking the other guy That's pretty smart If they are if in this case, they're making money. They are good But their country is clearly not making that much money, but you know, maybe one day That's why they are doing hopefully one day. Do you have meejit fatig? Meejit fatig? Yeah, you know what a meejit is one of those tiny little monsters those guys that are like this tall The little people They never met one No, not a kid like I don't know how to describe it other than a little monster of meejit. It's just a really small person that has a growth problem Small people no, but like that. Yeah, so I'm saying are you fatigued with them? You're in I've had enough. That's what I think No, they always have problems. He's like I need to help them get something It's your problem now mine. I don't want to help you. I've shit to do See when I come to the taxi my friend told me that you're gonna deal with a lot of people. Yeah like different different But I told him I can handle everybody anybody To me doesn't matter. Yeah, but some of them are so small they can't even get into your car And then as they get older their leg stop working like their leg start You see in my car, right? Yeah, it's a big car. Yeah, it has the ramp So if people cannot get in they can get on the ramp No, but they're not in wheelchairs because they're not Put it up they can do yeah, since they're really small I mean they're probably like 30 pounds. You could just grab them by the leg and throw them in there Would you do that to help them throw their head at the window? I think you are helping them enough. Yes, but with these ideas I believe you are helping them enough. Yes. I'm glad to actually. I'm not glad I'm fatigued with them. I'm tired of it I can think of it. You have a good ideas. What's the biggest tip you've ever got driving? That's a funny story, too. Yeah, yes once I was driving one guy Ask I went over there he put the destination and pick up the same spot Okay, I have to pick him up and I have to drop him the same same spot. So he's just getting in your car and getting out Then I ask him I start laughing because I know he's gonna stay here. He has to go somewhere Yeah, so I saw loving he's a why you are stopping? I say you want me to move the car and drop you Drop you right here. Yeah, what are you talking about? I'm like because You put the same destination as pick up spot. He's a no. I say yes. He's a no. I say, okay, hold on. Let me show you I show him that he's still laughing. Okay, but he wanted to go from westward to Santa Monica Is that a big decision? So like what in hour or so? No, it was like a 10 minutes. Okay, and He's the one who gave me biggest tips so far. What did he give you? Will you say $100 dollars? That's the biggest you got Why I just felt bad He was loving all alone maybe maybe you'd do that to more passengers if that tactic works You tell them they did the same location and tell them it's funny like oh you did the same location And then they'll love with them and then probably and then there You get them off guard and then you get that fake passenger to start stealing their money Seriously, I have to get into your head to hold you all these things well I'm giving you stealing your feeling doing this all good idea throwing me to the window. I think today. I know how to go to my home I have a lot of good ideas And I'm giving you these for free. Sometimes I charge people for this. This is on the house. Okay Are you from America? Yes That would suggest no the head yes that wobble on your head would you Yes, when you say yes, you go. Yes. No, I don't know about that. Maybe you're asking because you have a ice standing outside No, no, I uh, I stopped doing that. It wasn't making me enough money. Ah I heard they're making good money No, I'm not part of ice. I used to call them on people and then I would say can I get can I get something? And they go no, what are you talking about? So why am I gonna why am I gonna help them if they're not paying me? I'm basically part of the government as like a free agent And they're not even giving me anything. They're not offering me a job A lot of them actually think I'm a sick individual for doing that for nothing So what am I gonna keep helping them for okay What is the best way to kill somebody without getting away with it seriously without getting away with it not What do you think I don't think killing man anything. I tell you no, no, just a hypothetical Hypothetically, no, hypothetical, I never think about the adult thing Well, let's think about it now just see what can come to your mind You don't want to get away with it. You want to do it and you want to be caught immediately in the quickest way possible No, thank you. I don't want to go to jail No, no, not you just somebody's asking you for this advice. What would you tell them? Don't do it No, but they're dead set on this they say no just give me advice okay. They're writing a TV show and they need it help with this Well, they are smarter than me. They'll figure it out why they're smarter than you because they are right. That's their job Writing makes them smarter. I would I would differ with that. I've met some writers in I met a midget writer. It's impossible for him to be smarter because his brain is the size of that wire not the camera That's the size of a normal brain the size of that wire That's the size of his brain So it's not hard to you know Because I met him and he What do you mean she that's that proved anything? What did he say? What did he say? He made a noise He make him up. He said yes. He's not a midget though. He's a little short Kind of looks like a midget actually, but he's not a midget. He's a little too tall to be a midget See he's gonna show you You make him mad. No, you're not a midget. He's gonna show it to you see you're not a midget. Yes Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. There you go See See when you get Are you helping him you guys you told me you give so many ideas look look hey see He never give it this kind of ideas Oh, man. He's not over yet Still mad come down my friend. Okay, see he's not a midget. He's extremely tall and fast. Yes. Maybe next is me man. No He's just his brain is small the rest is okay. No, he's brain is huge huge brain I'm telling you I'm telling you he's just the brain is small the rest is good. No, the brain is huge. Look you're starting to piss him off. You want to get attacked? No, okay, so the I don't know. Okay, that's like the seven time that happened just while I was trying to give this podcast that up today, so So how many ideas do you give to him before me? How many ideas I give to him? I'm not giving him any He's working on your idea when I offer him an idea. He gets offended by it. He gets upset I say you want to hear an idea? I had for you and he punches me in the fucking jaw see so you never give an idea. Yeah, that's a good piece of advice To anybody as a matter of fact. No, no specifically. Yeah, he's he's this is just yeah, huge brain. Yes Following up on that violent stuff from earlier as the passenger ever made you so upset you wanted to explode their head No, no, I bet I don't that might be a lie. You're trying to sound now. Yes They were annoying you like that guy from earlier you want that that what you wanted to go like this What is this your money's not good enough anymore, my friend? Tiri What did you just say nothing you'll figure it out area that what you said
You have to pick it it out. That's what I thought am I right or no? Terraria, that what you said. No. Why are poor people so interested in eating the rich? It's not like they will taste any better because they have more money What people taste rich? No, you see those poor people all the time they have the signs eat the rich. They're not gonna taste better because they have more money How do you know that's actually that's a very good point. I've ever been poor. No, no, well, I have So have you ever been poor? Does this suggest rich to you? Yes, this is a suggestion of a wealthy person Not wealthy, but maybe rich. Yeah, I guess I'm using those words interchangeably. I still don't think this is a great Representation of a rich person. This is a representation of something gone wrong something bad happening Money a big money loss for one to eat rich people. Yeah. Well, are you planning on collecting a lot like making a big savings and then going back to Pakistan because With the amount of money you're making here. It's like you'd be basically the king over there That's true. So do you live in like a big house here? Yes, oh you do. Yeah, is it like a mansion? No, that good house So I'm saying if you live in a good house here. Yeah, you could live in a castle over there You could have up. You could have people crawling around trying to my friend I don't know when you guys get this idea that people will crawl over you No, people we tell that doesn't happen that well how else can they move around? They walk they don't have any back. Why would anybody crawl over anybody because they're missing their legs? What else can they do they can you are before you are telling me the the boy if you are rich people crawl over you No, no, I'm saying that the poor people they always say they want to eat the rich I'm well, I guess you made a good point. How do I know but my my educated guess is that a rich person wouldn't taste any better than a poor person Yes, you can say yes, so you'd rather the poor people lead the poor people Why would the people they eat their money take their money eat the mind would you want to go after them because they're hungry You can't money you're gonna eat it. That's how you gonna make it money is zero calories You'll get a stomachache and you'll shut out the money. You're not gonna buy with the money Okay, whatever you want to eat you can't eat rich. No, you can't you can't you can't eat rich is what you cannot buy food We see we're stolen money. It's illegal. You'll go to jail He's better to but you can't he rich either that's that that's also the problem the guy well Cannibalism is illegal, but maybe if you go with the guy somewhere a different country Pakistan Bangladesh, it's okay over there. No to do what to eat people I would love to see an under that brain of yours. Yeah, it's part of it is brown and a part of this green And I'm having a hard time deciding which one I like and you are deciding he have a small one. Oh, yeah, the huge brain No, he has a huge brain. He's he's giving me this. I don't know what you mean He he's giving me this. I don't know what this means huge brain. Yeah It's shocking that he's able to see the fingers He's saying no this it's shocking that he's even able to be in this room with how large his brain is But still he has a normal side head nothing unusual very nice haircut in a nice head Good, okay, he's thinking he's thinking if he's upset. Yes, I'm just giving call. I think he's a getting upset. No, he's getting there Are you because you're lying he's getting there? Are you trying to get me attacked again? No, he's getting there. No, it's not cool Let me move man. I think he's mad now. I need to move other side. I don't think he's gonna listen to you But if you want to offer him are you interested in switching seats? No, he doesn't want it Well, he's moving around I don't know what he's doing. He's he's coming to you. No, not for me. No Not for me see look at that that that that that that that that that that that that that that see he's coming for you Yes, don't give wrong signals. Oh That's become friend That's not a piece. That's not a piece That's not a piece That's not a piece That's enough you did that was your best you encourage that behavior. Yes, because you are giving me the signs What times you like Okay, we're almost done we just See he's become nice. Yeah, cuz he just beat the shit I just shot me into a wall Let me see if the wall is okay, man Wall is okay, okay No, no, he's okay That's why he'll take that seat Yeah, you see when he was never planning on he was just planning on hurting me So that is the seat is not the you no, it's me he doesn't like me because you made him see Maybe I'm doing the same thing No, I think it's I think it's a lot more to do with me than the seat Christ, yes Breathe breathe my friend breathe if you get into an accident while driving someone who is at fault you are the passenger It's always passenger my friend. Why would he's my friend? I have no idea what you just said you said My friend my friend You make him know now he's playing he's having fun time. Yes, it was saying that again, but a little slower maybe I really didn't understand any of that. I understood my friend. I'm happy with friends, but I didn't get it I didn't understand what you said. It's not my fault You're driving the guy. Yeah, driving a passenger on taxi and you get into an accident Is it your fault or the passenger? It's cars fault my friend cars fault. Yes. Why is it the cars fault? Why would he hit the other car because you turned it in that direction or you press the gas pedal and the car didn't listen to me Which car your car the other guys the car you either one of us. No, no you have a is the car's fault Why would a car hit another car? I'll simple because the car doesn't have a brain like it's smartest him Let me simplify you crash into a pole. It's a Gornamins pole or private a Wilder a what is belong to Gornamins? God is a private Gornamins is belong to the city or is belong to the person is that a friend of yours? Gornamins no problem. No problem is no problem. What I think we're having two different conversations You're you're saying you're trying to tell me your friend his name is gornamins Gornamins Gornamins you see a minion or something? What's up with okay? What's what's his last name? Yeah, there's gonna be a problem. They ask for license and registration. They're gonna see a car Crashed into the side of the thing. I mean this is gonna be a huge problem for whom? For your friend Gornamins. Oh, no, he's cool Yeah, he doesn't he's not gonna be cool in the police. They're gonna need to see identification I'm just looking out for you. I'm just trying to help It's okay, and let me ask you this if you were driving I'm sure a lot of the time you pass those homeless and 10 minutes where there's a lot of tents people sleeping in tents Let's say you were driving there and there was a guy long neck. He's the next guest coming in in a couple minutes he's this You you would be able to tell him he's kind of this short guy weighs about 27 pounds and He looks like if he doesn't eat something immediately. He's gonna die within the next hour Would you drive him away people the homeless people are chasing him? For some reason they think he's one of the rich. They're trying to eat him. Okay. Yeah, would you help him? But this comes at the cost of your car because the homeless people are gonna be able to smash your car apart while he gets in And taking mine long neck he hasn't been doing well for about eight years and who knows if I doubt he made any money then and if he did He certainly doesn't have any leftover. So he's not gonna be able to repay you and I mean your insurance It's like they're not gonna cover the costs. It's really the cost is coming straight to you That's still healthy even if you're losing like thousands tens of thousands Okay, well, that's it cuz I need a film with long neck now unfortunately to find somebody with a long neck. No, he's coming in right now Oh 30 he's what is that got another friend of yours? What's his name out there It's not a surprise. Oh, okay. Well, thanks for coming. I appreciate it. Yes anytime. We're done Good one my friend you did the best one Oh Don't don't don't don't don't don't don't
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The taxi driver reflects on the cultural and demographic divide between foreign drivers choosing taxis over Uber, noting that non-white drivers, especially from countries like India, Bangladesh, or Egypt, are more likely to drive taxis due to social and cultural familiarity.
He shares a humorous and speculative idea about a fake passenger stealing items from real passengers, suggesting that such a scheme could generate more income, though he ultimately declines to try it due to ethical and personal values.
The conversation touches on deep-seated national tensions, such as India-Pakistan conflict, with the driver acknowledging the complexity of regional politics and the idea that some countries like Bangladesh may act as neutral “spies” to manipulate alliances.
A recurring theme is the driver’s empathy and responsibility toward passengers, including helping those in distress, such as offering to wait for an ambulance or refusing to abandon someone in need.
The discussion includes absurd or fictional ideas—like a man with a long neck being chased by homeless people or a fake passenger stealing from another—highlighting the mix of satire, humor, and random thought experiments.
The driver draws on personal experiences, like a passenger who wanted to pick up and drop off at the same location, which led to a humorous and insightful moment about passenger behavior and trust.
There is a clear contrast between personal values and potential financial gain, with the driver valuing human connection and moral integrity over profit.
The conversation also features a lighthearted exploration of ideas, including whether a large human with a gun could kill a small dog, or whether poor people would benefit from eating rich people’s food, reflecting on both absurdity and social commentary.
Summary:
The podcast features a lively and often absurd conversation between the host and a taxi driver, Aftab Arif, who shares insights on cultural patterns in transport choices, such as foreign drivers preferring taxis over Uber due to regional familiarity and social dynamics. The discussion includes a blend of humor, speculation, and personal anecdotes—like a passenger trying to pick up and drop off at the same spot, which leads to a memorable tip about passenger psychology. The dialogue explores contentious topics such as India-Pakistan relations, national politics, and social behaviors, often framed through satirical or fictional scenarios.
The driver emphasizes empathy and moral responsibility, refusing to exploit passengers or engage in harmful actions despite profitable ideas. The conversation also delves into random thought experiments, including the ethics of fake passengers, cannibalism, and hypothetical violence, all presented with a mix of wit and sincerity. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the taxi driver's role as a frontline observer of human behavior, blending personal experience with cultural observation, humor, and philosophical reflection.
The episode ends with a light-hearted tone, emphasizing the value of connection and ethics over financial gain.
FAQs
Many foreign drivers prefer taxis because the industry is more inclusive and diverse, with a mix of cultural backgrounds like Indian, Egyptian, or Bangladeshi drivers. In contrast, Uber is often seen as more technology-driven and dominated by white drivers, making it less accessible or familiar to some.
Yes, I would give them a free ride as long as they don’t threaten anyone. However, I would remain cautious and not take any risks to my safety or the safety of others.
I stay calm and set boundaries. If a passenger becomes disruptive, I politely ask them to behave, and if necessary, I stop the ride or take them to their destination safely without leaving anyone behind.
A passenger once told me to take them to the same pickup and drop-off spot, which made me laugh. I realized that humor can de-escalate tension and make the ride more enjoyable—this became a useful tip for dealing with anxious or confused passengers.
Yes, I would. If someone is clearly in danger, like a person with a serious health issue, I would help them get to safety immediately, even if it means risking my vehicle or safety.
While taxi drivers don’t specialize in farming, they often gain experience in transportation logistics, such as moving people and goods across cities, which overlaps with supply chain and delivery systems.
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