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Matan Finally Confronts Hunter Biden About Everything...

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Matan Finally Confronts Hunter Biden About Everything...

Hunter Biden, a former addict and son of President Joe Biden, opens up about his personal journey with substance abuse, crediting sobriety to a pivotal moment after his brother’s death. He shares his work with recovery organizations and promotes a foundation aimed at supporting individuals in recovery, especially in Los Angeles. He deflects claims of drug use during his father’s political career, stating he was clean before the presidency and only began using around the time of his brother’s death. Hunter discusses the societal stigma faced by people with addiction, arguing that it's more about cultural judgment than substance use itself, and calls for decriminalization of drugs to reduce violence and incarceration. He challenges conspiracy theories, particularly those linking Epstein to Bin Laden, and criticizes misinformation on social media platforms like Truth Social. He also reflects on his interactions with political figures, expressing no interest in entering politics, believing his advocacy for recovery is more impactful than political office. The conversation includes playful games, personal anecdotes, and a touching moment when he receives a meaningful gift—a 2017 MacBook—symbolizing both his recovery and connection with his audience. Hunter concludes by emphasizing that his identity is defined by compassion and support for recovery, not by political or public scrutiny.

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Hello everybody, welcome back to the podcast for today's guest. We have Hunter Biden. Welcome in. Thanks for coming. - Thanks for having me. - For today's co-host, we have my manager, Viral Floring. Welcome in Viral Floring. Viral. Hey guys, turn this off. Thanks. So if you could just pull the mic close to your mouth and then introduce yourself to anybody who might not know you and all that one. I'm Hunter Biden, a friend of Mike Mike's. - Friend of Mike Mike? - Yep, friend of Mike Mike. Well, I thought you probably just met him for the first time, no? Yeah, but I think I feel like I know. I'm from watching him all the time. I would think that you might know him from somewhere else, to be honest, to be the look of him. Yeah, that too. Did you meet a lot of people who look like him? Yeah, quite a few, quite a few. But he looks like he's doing great. Looks like he's doing good. I see an extremely generous thing to say. It is, but he's a generous kid, so I'm not a kid. He's a generous young man. With the mentality of a child. I got nothing bad to say about Mike Mike. I've only about to say about him. - Oh, you do? - Yeah. Fuck me, try stealing my job last week. But anyways, in case anybody doesn't know who you are, maybe tell them a little bit about it. I guess it's a little obvious, 'cause you're extremely famous in your last name, he's Biden, but you know. I'm Hunter Biden. I am first and foremost. I am a former and recovering addict, and I've worked with other addicts. I've worked with an organization called Peek Path Health, and I'm trying to start a foundation for people in recovery and aftercare here in Los Angeles. - And what were you addicted to playing World of Warcraft? - No, it was actually worse. It was crap, (beep) - Well, that can probably even be more fun, depending on the time, right? 'Cause that game can get a little boring for months on end. - The World of Warcraft are the (beep) one. - Well, (beep) is always fun. I saw you said that you were doing it every 15 minutes. - No, I promise you, it's not always fun. But, you know, it becomes kind of compulsive though. To everyone out there, I do not recommend it. - Did your plug know he was selling (beep) to the president's son? - No, I don't think so. And also, at one point I, number one is that I was never using when my dad was president. I got cleaned and sober a year before, over a year before he became president. - Were you using when he was the vice president? - Right at the end. - Okay. - But pretty much it happened after my brother died. And then about a year and a half later is when I started. Right at the end when he was vice president. But most of it happened during the-- - Did you ever have like money issues buying it, were you ever low on money or that was now-- - Oh yeah, yeah. - So I'm saying, you probably could have used that. Like, I don't know, you guys can look at this up. You could have told us to your plug like, you can look this up. I'm actually the president's son. If you don't give me not for free, I'm gonna tell on you. - Yeah, now that, that, it doesn't work that way. - It doesn't work that way. - Why not? I mean, they might not believe you at first, but once they look it up, they can be like, holy shit, we gotta give this guy the whole supply. - Well, I don't think they would sell to me ever again. So I, you know, I think I try to keep anonymous as much as I could. - Donald Trump recently tweeted, "I am so sorry for the ruthless lies and conspiracies. "I have spread about Joe Biden and his family, "especially his son Hunter. "I hope they can forgive me one day." Matan, please ask Hunter if he forgives me. - And of course. - If he actually said that, I'm all about forgiveness. - So you forgive him? - If he said that, I forgive him, yeah. - And if he didn't say that, your thoughts on him? - Then go fuck himself. - What about his family? You have an issue with them? - I'm not a big, you know what? I'm not a really big fan of the family. And now, but I, I think that's pretty, I've made that pretty clear over the course of time. I'm not a big fan of any of them. Not as one of them, yeah. - What about Barron? - Well, that's true. I don't know Barron. I don't know enough about Barron to say that I dislike him. And he's a young guy. He's still got a chance, maybe. - Do you think you should try, (beep) - No, God, nobody should try, try. I wouldn't, see, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. No. - You want it all to yourself? 'Cause your worst enemy, they shouldn't experience something that's good. - Well, I was my worst enemy, that's exactly right. Yeah, definitely, definitely. - And we're gonna, there's a little game I wanted to play. I'm gonna say a name. Is Viral gonna play the game? - He'll play a different game later, actually. He'll facilitate the other game later. This is a game I'm gonna say a name. And then you quickly have to say the first word that pops into your mind that you associate with the course. - I'm not very good at these things, but I'll try. - Just try your best. - Okay, I'm gonna close my eyes. - Okay. - Yeah. - Kamala Harris, smart. - Rikakis, who? - Rikakis. - Rikakis? - I don't know Rikakis. - Is that the word who, we can use that one. - What, what is it? - Rikakis. - Yeah, who? - Who? - You gotta say it like this though. - Who? - Joe Biden. - The best. - Rudy Giuliani. - Asshole. - Bill Cipher. - Don't know him. - Vladimir Putin. - Evil. - Hillary Clinton. - Really smart. - Manic Mike. Don't know enough. Skeletron. - So, Skeletron. - Interesting. - Viral flooring. - Don't know. - He's right there. - Oh, viral. - I didn't get that. You tagged on the end there, I thought it was a. - Viral flooring. - So, it viral. - Yeah, I have a couple of them. - Hold on. - The accent got me. - Hasan Piker. - Smart. - Interesting word. - LeBron James. - Ooh. - I've heard. - It's not the one I would use. (laughing) - Well, this is my game. - But I'll have an amazing clip if you use my word. - What's your word? - Don't. - Don't, don't. - You can do it and I can't. - No, I'm not doing it. - I have a word you're left on my mind. - If you do, I'm walking out. Yeah, I caught that, yeah. - Will you stay, or I'll stay if you do it. - No, I'm not doing it, I promise you. - I'll give you money to do it. - Yeah, don't, I'm not even remotely doing it. - JD Vance, douchebag, markiplier, don't know. - And finally, Jim. - Jim? - Yeah, Jim. - There's a lot of Jim's, I know a lot of Jim. Which Jim? - Jim. - Jim, just Jim? - Yeah. - The Jim I know I love. - That's the word you would use? - The one I know. The Jim I know, I love, it's my uncle. My uncle Jim. - Okay. - Yeah. - Well, that's not who I was talking about. I don't even know who I was talking about. I just couldn't think of any more of it. Famous people. Oh, one more, Skeletron Prime. - Ooh, uh, uh, strong. - That's a good word. The toughest mechanical boss. - Okay. - I think you did good on that game. - Thank you. - That was a great, I appreciate that. - I feel like, I feel like it's a good start there. - Thanks. - I actually wanna give you a present. Not just 'cause you did so good on that game. - Oh boy. - Okay. - You're gonna like it. - I'm pumped. - It's a gift, okay. - I promise you're gonna like it. - Okay, okay. - It's actually very thought out. I think this is the perfect gift to give you. Feel free. - All right. It's kind of heavy. - I know, it's a good gift. I wasn't cheap either. - Okay, we'll see. Is this gonna explode on me? - No. - Is it gonna cause me to relapse? - It very well might, but that's up to you. - That's pretty cool. Let's see here. Okay. You really wrapped this. - I know. Come on. I haven't had one in seven years. - That's a great gift. - That is a great gift. - Everyone new 2017 MacBook. - Look at that. I am gonna take this fucking thing at home. - Just so you know. - Feel free to gift. - I have it on camera. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. - I told you you were gonna like it. - I know you needed it. - Is this the one? - It's not the one. It's the same model. - All right. - I like it, man. - Which means it isn't brand new. I have to really make those ones anymore, buddy. - Yes. - It's a 2017. - Thank you. - It's hard to get that. - Will you sign it for me? - People, you know, people ask me to sign their laptops now. - Really? - Yeah. - I like what it's fun to do. - That's a great thing for you to sign. - I'm thinking about it. - I gotta make a little business out of that. - You should. - I'm sure people pay a lot of money for that. - Exactly. - Is that the best gift you've ever been given? - Probably. - You're up there, is it? - Yeah, well, yeah. Outside of family stuff? - Yeah. - From a stranger? - Absolutely. - You're not a stranger to me. - We know each other now. - It's an important thing. - You lost it, you needed a new one. - I can't. - That one for years. - Yes. - Yeah, thank you, brother. You didn't, you weren't the one who stole that out of like one of my motel rooms. - I thought you turned it in for water damage. - For a second. - Yeah. - Let's see here. Well, wait, we'll turn it on afterwards and see if it has any of those pictures on it. - Okay. - Well, they're all out now, anyway. - Yeah, they're all out now. - It doesn't really matter. - We can download them. - I mean, even if they were on here, who knows if they're the original? - Exactly. - All right. - Thank you. - By the way. - Of course. - I'm happy you like it. - I actually really do. - Do you think you defeated Hillary Clinton for the biggest email scandal of all time? - Oh. - 100%. - Really? - Yeah. - I mean, they got all of mine. They only got like a few of hers. I think I've got 20 years of my emails. - I don't know, though, because I was really nothing in there. - I think your scandal was bigger, but it wasn't just about emails. - Yeah, it was more about the pictures, right? - There's the pictures. There was, you know, the d---s tour of the part of it with her was really just emails. - Yeah, exactly. It hers was much more consequential, but far more boring. - But you defeated her in that regard? - Well, at least I got one win out of it. Thank you. - And following up on that, do you think you could defeat Hillary Clinton? Hillary Clinton in a game of crucible on destiny two no stasis allowed obviously Yeah, yeah absolutely really I agree. Yeah, you know guys from what I've heard and it's just kind of obvious to have to like better Mechanism with their fingers. They have better instincts. I don't know about that, but you know, it's a fact Yeah, why do you think they have to separate the NBA and the W NBA? There about to be one anyways, but still because his fingers it's a big part of it The fingers are longer. They're more athletic. You obviously a W NBA player palm of the ball like might have actually Britney Griner Well, that might be a man. It's unclear. She's amazing. I love her. I love Britney Shout out to her. Yeah Follow it still out the other guy Why do you think you're so scrutinized for fucking hoes and doing drugs when that's what all the other rappers do? Yeah, you know what? I think the reason is is because I didn't rap, you know, okay, and or or you know The truth of the matter is is that color your skin. No. No. I don't think it has to do with that in any way Well, yeah, you know, I'm not one to get racist or say anything racist. Really? You know me But I would say if you were a Yeah, go ahead. I'm just getting the reaction here. Well, she's got glasses on. Yeah, okay You know, yeah, if I would say if you were black you probably wouldn't have got any shit for it It would have just been like oh, that's another one. I don't think that's true I think that I got away with a lot because I because of the color in my skin. Oh really? It's unfair. Yeah, do you believe in in white privilege? No, I don't believe in it, but I think it exists. Oh nice Are those the are those the emails? Yeah, just saying Well, I don't know if they're classified classified. Do I get to read in the Bible before it nope, okay? What was the worst part about being the son of President Obama? The son of President Obama Yeah, sorry, sorry President Barack Obama What was the worst part a lot of pressure on you because you were the son of the president? Well, it might it would I would I would be honored to be President Obama's son But I love my dad more than anything in the world So I'm just glad I'm here. You know, what's your families for along with all the stuff for being the president's son? Yes, exactly not that one though the other different guy. Yeah, different guy. Yeah, President Oblaminator No, not Oblaminator President Oblaminator. So you're not Obama. Are you related to him? You know, we are almost maybe get this is so President Oblamas Like great great grandfather lived in the same Town in Ireland that my dad's great great grandfather one and they left Ireland in the place called Collingford Locke on the same ship at different time But one of them was one of them was like, I know on the ship and then one of them was no No, no, they were both on the ship. What do you they were both on the ship? No, no, no, no technically. Yes That's not what I'm saying. One of them was manning the ship like it's happening That's not what I'm saying. Then one of them was a captain is an Irishman from from County Louth What originally started that story? I thought it was gonna go in a way different direction. No, no, no, no, no, no, but yeah, you can keep up keep up here Okay, all right And do you think Oblamin was really born in Kenya? Who Oblamin, I'm president of Barack Oblamin president of Barack Obama was born in Hawaii Yeah, but I heard some rumors. That's something Trump said as well. Yeah, I know and you know what he Is a complete jackass so I don't think and I'm positive it wasn't true. Let me see that well Here's a piece of evidence. It came out Trump to put a dot on truth social Trump did that's a real photo. I think it's from like truly 50 60 years ago truly a fucking jackass But this is a real real evidence. Yeah, it's not No, see it's all right, buddy. It's not evidence, but that's the problem. That's will you In the in the shredder in the shredder viral. That's not a real photo. No, it's not a real photo It's see it's a doctored photo. There was a lot of there's a lot of doctored photos out there. You got to be careful That was probably AI. No, are you sure? Yeah, I'm a hundred percent sure 100% but you could tell it's Obama because it's a baby and I'm telling you tell the difference between a real photo and not for real I got I've become an expert at this stuff. Yeah But think about it. There's a big Kenya flag in the back. No, there's a giveaway Why is that a giveaway that not let you know it's a Kenya? No, it's a set up because it's not in a in a In a maternity ward. They don't hang They don't hang flags It's got to be sterile. That's the well. Oh the other guy maybe can you the other giveaway? That was his his wife Michelle That wasn't his mother No, I think that was his mother. I think they look similar. You ever heard that people usually end updating people I promise you Look like the mother you're gonna You're gonna feel really silly if you go out there and think that that was don't listen to Donald Trump I'm telling you I'll I'll save you a lot of grief. I'll I'll take the risk and I'll say it I think Oblami was born in Kenya. Oh gosh. That's a really real. I tell you what That is it really really really I would not suggest you take that position. No, no because it's too base. I don't know anybody that's more popular than president Obama Well, I'm talking about Oblami. Oh, Oblami By the way, I didn't know of any oblami. I've never heard of it You just saw I mean then you had him to lead the I think that's that's something. It doesn't exist by the way It doesn't exist anymore. So I did everybody a favor. Can you please have a stroke so these can go mega viral. Oh I don't really want to have a stroke I've been taking so much care of myself. I got my coffee with you know the My coconut sugar which sugar watered what sugars inside of the coffee. Yeah, it's actually real sugar That's why the quotations. Yeah, coconut sugar though. I don't I I don't like like Does anybody ever approach her on the street and kind of oh, yeah, then maybe you're interested in actually buying Oh, no, no, no, no. They all know I'm a recovery now and you know that's the truth matters is that most people Are actually really nice and most people you know understand you're not just what I went through But like how much you like really care about being someone in recovery to be so yeah You know what I was saying earlier just to go back on that when I said about the rappers thing. Yeah Really in terms of their dreams and, you know, a bunch of different women It's it's something that a lot of people do. There's not much difference between you and them in that regard Well, I don't think it's it's not just Rappers and it's not about the women. It's that addiction is actually like you know I always say this in every show 50 million Americans any given day or struggling with their own addiction or you know Trying to hold on to the recovery And you think that it should be none of them And I should I I wish that people didn't have to go through it, but you know clearly we But then we would have less interesting plot lines by the way we would be shows That's 100% true. So maybe we need a couple of them. It's worth it. You sacrifice a couple of them. Yeah Well, maybe we could just have them live in one you know one area Well, usually we do group them together and put them in those homes that end up just turning into Yeah, honestly, they should make a show about it. Yeah, they have I think a couple of time a reality show a real show Yeah, remember that one with Dr. Drew with you know the the Celebrity rehab are one of those things. Remember that. Oh, but that's we celebrities. 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I think I should I think you should give them a chance for recovery. And there's a lot of programs like that that used to be around and then they kind of fell out of favor. But I think that we should look at decriminalization. - Yeah. - For all drugs or decriminalization for all drugs? - I don't know, I don't know. I think that we should be studying it, but a lot of drugs, yeah. - Well, I mean, in particular, I think you can start with drugs like my (beep) and others that-- - Well, I think it is decriminalizing most places. - Yeah, it's almost there. - Yeah, yeah. - Now all these stupid kids are lazy bombs. So there is some negative consequences. - Well, there is that, yeah. - Do you smoke a (beep) now? - No, god. - Nothing? - No, and only because the one (beep) I couldn't do, the one (beep) that would literally make me like comatose. And I couldn't move. I'd be like curled up on a ball in the bathroom floor. It was my (beep) - Really? - Yeah. - I got some (beep) all day, but I couldn't smoke a (beep) - Yeah. - I don't know. - Well, I've never done any of them, but I always thought that if I was gonna-- - You've never done any (beep) - Never done any (beep) or drink alcohol. I mean, I'm 19, I can't even if I wanted to. - Yeah, good. - Stay that way. - But I always-- - My brother didn't drink. - Never? - Yeah. - Well, neither did Trump, too. - Yeah, true. Yeah, neither did my dad. - Oh, really? - Dad never had a drink, yeah. - So maybe that's what pushed you to the opposite edge. - Well, you know what? I think they just smarter than me, you know? And well, I know they were smarter than me. - But I was gonna say that if I was to ever do one, I thought about it. I think I would try to go for the most extreme one. You gotta have one experience. You gotta make it a memorable one. - Yeah. - So, you know, forget the (beep) forget that. - No, don't do it. - Something big-time. - I'm begging you. I love seeing you on my TikTok, yeah, so don't. Because you won't be able to make it to work the next day. - It's a good point, but I mean, my work at this point is kind of like all over the place, so I would probably get way more famous if I ended up in the hospital for like, really dying from injecting myself with (beep) or whatever. - No, there's nothing more. - And your big-time story. - Your work is not worth that, I promise you. - That would be the first time I'd be covered on mainstream media. - Call me. - I'll help you out. - Yeah? - Yeah. - It's a good offer. But almost enticing. - Oh, it's not down. I wanna entice you. - It's like, I'll start case. - I'll start like doing (beep) in the hopes that that can get me closer to you. - No, call me before you do it. So I can stop you. - Okay. - Yeah, all right. - That's a lot less appealing to me. - Yeah. - Do you think Jeffrey Epstein was killed by Osama Bin Laden? - No, I don't. I think Osama Bin Laden died before Jeffrey Epstein. - It's a matter of fact, I'm not sure if he did. - How do we know that? - You're right, that's true. Nobody knows that for sure. They don't. - They don't. - Osama's body into the ocean. - Yup, like off the boat. - And now the guy who killed him is a podcaster. So who knows? - Yeah, exactly. So really who knows about any of it. - Maybe they knew how dangerous he was. They wanted to make everybody a bit calmer. And then his big comeback was killing Epstein. He would have been doing us all a favor, actually. That was the case, right? - No. - What? To kill Epstein? - Yeah. - I mean, if I was to argue this in good faith, I would say that Epstein was already in jail. He was about to reveal a bunch of important information. So maybe kill him like a couple of years later. But then if I was to argue this from a personal standpoint, I would say that like he was a fun guy probably, and I'm sure there was a lot of cool things about him. - Wait, do you believe Epstein killed himself? - No. - No. - I believe he was murdered by Osama bin Laden. - Yeah. - I'd like that theory. Do you believe that? - I believe that. - Reggie. - What? - Reggie. - He believes Reggie killed Epstein. - Oh, really? - Reggie. - Reggie Jackson, the former point guard for the LA Clippers. - No, Reggie Jackson, the former center field for the New York Yankees. - There might be two of them, but I don't know that guy. - Reggie Jackson is good, dude, man. I don't think he had anything to do with it. - What about Reggie Jackson, the point guard from the LA Clippers? He was only there for a couple of years. He had that one clip where he crossed over Westbrook and then he went to the top. - Oh, that's Reggie. Oh, yeah. Maybe, dude. - He might have killed Epstein. - He could have done it. He had to. - He could have snuck in there. - Yeah. - But he wasn't that good. - But we know for certain it is not Reggie Jackson the center field or the former center field. - We don't know, that's all I think, we could have, he does it. - He may have wanted to. - Well, there's not a chance. - Because by the way, he's a stand-up dude. - You mad him? - Yeah, yeah. - Did you ever meet Epstein? - No, no. - Never met Epstein. - I can say with certainty that I had never met Epstein and was never mentioned. - Could you say it's certainly possible you did but you forgot? - No, no, I remember most things. But yeah, and I think I would have remembered that. I was hanging out with the very, very different class of people during that period of time. - Much lower than like Park Avenue, you know, largest mansions in the world, Marlago. I've never been to Marlago, which probably means is the only place that I would run into Jeffrey Epstein is in Marlago. Yeah. - Imagine setting your makeup, then forgetting. It's even theirs. Meet new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York. Jelly mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all day comfy grip. No tightness, no stickiness, no residue, just clump, dewey hydrated skin that still feels like your skin. Try new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York. - Maybe it's Maybelline. - What about, never been, never been invited. - What about your father? Did he ever meet Epstein? - No, never, no, it's hard to believe. - He doesn't hang out with those people either. - Well, whether or not hanging out, you know, that guy, he was good at maneuvering. Met a lot of people. - He was. - He was absolutely crazy. Yeah, the list of people in there. Did you ever meet him? - Unfortunately not, but. - Well, what do you mean, unfortunately? Why do you say that? - I mean, it would have been a great story. - Seriously, why don't you meet him? - No, man. - For some reason, he's just losing his phone. - Yeah, it's alright though. - Do you think it would be a foolish idea for somebody to have you store extremely valuable data for them on your laptop? - Say that again. - Wait, I've got to get the question right. - Yes, yes, this one. Wait, did you put highly valuable data on this laptop? - No, but I was thinking about asking you to hold some footage for me. - Oh, I'm being careful. I'm not very good at keeping still. - I thought maybe you kind of figured that out yet. - Yeah, you know what, I have become much better. You know why? Is that I don't have a laptop? - You don't? - I choose to not have a laptop. - Have you switched to a desktop since? - No, no desktop, anything. I just use my phone. - They can still get you on there, same as a laptop. - No, I know, that's absolutely true. That's absolutely true, but there's nothing on my phone. There's nothing in my digital footprint since I got clean and sober that anybody in the world could see if they wanted to. - You'll release it, maybe you should do a live stream where you screen share, then you just start going through all my digital footprint going forward. - That could be interesting. - You know what, think about this though. Think about this. Is it, do you know anyone that would be willing to share their entire digital life for 20 years? Is it, if I sold it, do you think that anyone has a right then regardless of how they came about it to sell it to the New York Post or to put it up on the Daily Mail or to do that? - For how much money? - Yeah, well, not, well, I didn't get that's the thing. I didn't get any money on it. - That's a good question. - No, not how much money you get. How much money do the guy selling it to the New York Post get? - Oh, exactly, yeah. - Like we can be all-- - You know, I saw that, you know that get off for a hundred bucks. - You've had him on John Kiryaku? - Yeah, yeah. He has this whole thing is that about, you know, people that are sociopaths or the people that are, and he puts himself in this category, sociopathic tendencies. So they ask questions like that. It's like a sociopath would say, yeah, I would sell the digital because I'm a sociopath. I don't care about that. - That's what a smart person says, and then the other guy is a liar or a fool. (laughing) - Exactly. - Kiryaku would say that it's sociopathic tendencies to say, well, situationally would I do it for a lot of money? - Kiryaku would say that and then do it and then like plant it on me. - Well, that's true, too, by the way. Yeah, he's pretty crafty guy. - He's a craft, I like him. He helped me torture my friend. - Oh, what, Mike? - Yeah, we tortured him. - He tortured him. - We slaughtered him. - No. - With Kiryaku. - Oh, that's right. - He actually showed me the correct way to do it. - No, that was awful, actually. - Oh, awesome. - Yeah, no. That's like, when people ask you to sign their laptops, it's getting water-boarded by John Kiryaku. - No, that's an amazing experience. - Yeah. - Oh, well, there's another game I wanted to play. I told you earlier, he would be involved. - Wait, you didn't tell me earlier, he would be involved. - No, I said via a floor and you asked if he'd be part of the game, or whatever. - I'll go ahead and catch you. - I have to go grab the hand. - Okay. - Is that a shot color? - No, I'll explain. Hold on. - You know that game? So basically, we're each gonna put this on our head. And then we have a little thing and we have to guess what it is. - Oh, yeah, yeah. - It could be like a dog or a shark or something. - Yeah. - Okay. - You wanna use this one? - Yeah, sure. - Okay, wait, do I have the cards? - Yeah, that's why I said he'll facilitate this game. Just close your eyes when he puts it on your head. - Okay. - 'Cause you don't want it to get spoiled. - Well, here, you put it in first, viral. And then you put it on my head, I'll turn around. - Okay. - Okay. - I hope I don't look like an idiot. - No, you look great, actually. - Yeah. - That's a look. For real. Very '60s. - Oh, no. - Yeah. - Is that when those game people started? - You know what you look like? - You look like you could be on the mansion. property. You look like a killer. Hold on. He's handing it to you. But don't look at the card. Okay, I'm looking down. Okay. Then I'll let him put one on me. Okay. Yeah. I won't look. You see? Wait a second. If I if I squint really hard, I can see it in the reflection of the window. Okay. I can see yours. Okay. You see mine? I don't know what mine is. You see mine. Yeah. I see yours. Okay. Well, that's a good one. Yeah. Okay. How do we do this? You start using it. We have to ask each other questions about it. Yeah. Am I a human? No. Am I an animal? No. Okay. Oh, now it's my turn. Yeah. Yeah. Am I an animal? No. Okay. Are you wait? Oh, am I a food? No. Okay. Some people might turn into food. Okay. You ask me now. Okay. Yeah. Am I a food? Same question. Yes. Okay. I shouldn't have done that question. Yeah. You got a good one. Yeah. Now your turn. And I passed. Well, I asked animal that a human is an animal. Am I a person? No. Okay. Is he such a cheap food? Would he be expensive? It depends. Interesting. Is this something that I can wear? No. Okay. I'll give you a hint because I think this is probably a harder one than I have. Okay. It's an event. Oh, okay. Got it. Okay. Am I Christmas? No. Okay. Quite the opposite. Okay. Am I am a holiday that everybody celebrates? Probably about 2 billion people. 2 billion people. Ramadan. No. Oh, Mecca. No. That's not a holiday. That's just a place. Oh, yeah. That's true. Yeah. Okay. But my turn. Hold on. Yeah. You used to there. I get to now. Okay. Yeah. You're right. Okay. So I'm a food. And you said it could be expensive. Yeah. Is it something used on other foods as well? Yes. Is it something? Okay. Here's my next question. Okay. Is it something you could also eat stand alone or no? Yes. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. Is it a religious holiday? You could say that. You could make that claim. I think that you're misleading me. Okay. I'm really not. I mean, you should know that I'm probably saying something not nice. So you should figure it out. Yeah. Is it something somebody would eat every day? Some people do. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Is it does it have to do with me? Are you Jewish? Oh. Is this Russia China? No, it's not. Okay. Now it's my guess. Is this some sort of liquid? No. Okay. Cold. All right. It has to do with original questions. It has to do with Judaism. And are you have me wear something that is like really like not cool? You are. Aren't you? What do you mean? Yeah. Is this genocide? No. Hold on. It's about a fall off. Don't look at it. Don't look at it. It's not genocide. I want to know. However, that's like, I want everybody to know that I do not support or endorse whatever is on my head because I can tell that this isn't an actual card that does that. And I usually have a rule not to wear funny hats. Okay. Your question now. Am I cheese? Yeah. Yeah. You got it. I got it. You got it. All right. You won. Okay. I get to look. I get to look. I win. I get to look. You were 9/11. Oh, 9/11. It is for two billion people probably. No, that's not a holiday. Yeah. You could say it is. That's tomorrow. Oh, shit. Yeah. That's going to be really distasteful on my mind. By the way, how old were you in 9/11? I was not born for another six years. Another six years? Yeah. Viral was what your early 20s? I think he's like 40. 40? Something like that. Yeah. Anyway, so now we'll do another one. It's one zero. Okay. We'll do a couple of rounds. No, I don't know. You're not putting another one on my head. No, no, it's just a couple. We're not. It's best. Okay. It's one more round. It's best of three. One more round. One more round. Okay. Don't look at it. Okay. Yeah. Here. Put it in. I'll put it on. And then we give me the other. Give me his. I was giving you so many context clues too. I was trying to help you. Yeah, you could just look at mine. Here. I close my eyes. Okay. There you go. Got it. All right. See, mine's not even in the thing. Okay. I'm ready. Okay. Okay. Okay. Who started last time? You did. So it's your turn now. In my and in my and event again. Yes, you are. Okay. Am I a food? Yes. Why are mine? We have like similar. Hold on. Let me fix it. I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Yeah. Okay. It's your turn. Would I be proud of this event? No. Okay. Your turn. Am I a food that is derived from an animal? Part of it. Part of an animal. No. Part of the food is derived from the animal. But not necessarily. Okay. Okay. And is it a tragic event? Yeah. I'm 9/11 again. You're 9/11. You're such an asshole. But you want, so we have to do best of three. Imagine setting your makeup. Then for getting it's even there. Meet new groupie setting mist from Maybelline New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all day comfy grip. No tightness. No stickiness. No residue. Just plum. Do we hydrated skin? That still feels like your skin. Try new groupie setting mist from Maybelline New York. Maybe it's Maybelline. On the one. I'm not being 9/11 again. No, we both. I don't know how that happened. You must have messed up the box. The game was expensive. By the way, I think it's Viral's fault. Lasagna. Lasagna. How's that derived from an animal? Because it's meat. Lasagna. Look at the picture. Oh, that's true. It does have some. Part of it. Yeah. So it's one more. We'll do one more game. We have an unfortunate feeling. I'm going to lose this game. Okay. I think I, I think I, wait, here, wait. Okay. Don't look at your card. We don't want you to know what it is. Okay. I'll close my eyes. Okay. Got it. All right. Okay. Guys, you can see my card. Okay. Okay. Oh, shit. Okay. No, I'm going to go. No, it's my turn. Okay. All right. Am I 9/11? No. Am I 9/11? Turned 9/11. Okay. Wait. Wait. Okay. You got to ask me questions now. Do you see? Am I an event? No. Am I a human? No. Am I a food? No. Well, maybe. Am I a shark? You're a shark. I'm good at this game. Look at it in the window. You're good at this game. No, I just planted all my cards. Yeah. I like that. The headband on you though. I'm being totally serious. Yeah. Yeah. I'll keep it on for the next question. That was good. I don't know why they kept giving you the same card. Well, why don't you rig the game? You know what? I think that he is obsessed with 9/11. You could certainly say. Oh, some of the things that we were just talking about. You could say it's a holiday for like two billion dollars. No, it is not a holiday for anybody. No. Definitely not. You want him to shred it? No, I'm putting up over here. Oh, oh, shit. I'm all right. Drop my silver. It's okay. Good. Yep, Oh, good. It's the fire rolls over here. She's distracting you. No, he didn't distract me. That was my fault. That was clumsy. Hey, guys. Sorry for the interruption. I have to let you know that today's episode is sponsored by Shopify. If you're like me a couple months ago and you're thinking about starting a business, then Shopify is the perfect option for you. A couple months back, I realized that I was finally an adult and if I didn't start making money and getting my shit together, I was probably gonna end up eating random things I found on the street and just hoping it was edible. 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Uh, well, all the Liberals, the Liberals are demon people. - I know who says that. - Oh, that's what I'm saying. - That's what the honest good boys have been saying. - Look at those, this. - No, absolutely not. - Did you see the pro-- - Look on the internet. - To the good boys. - If you research on the internet, you'll come up with a different answer on that one. - I know what you're just talking about and but for one, I feel like Epstein was for sure a leftist. - No. - A left? - No. - Definitely not. - Oh yeah, maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. I feel like he would be. - I don't think he was anything. He was an equal opportunity asshole to, you know, he had friends all over. - Probably pro abortion for his own benefit, but still that would make him a leftist. - No, no, I don't think so. But who knows, who knows. - But I've seen all of these things on truth social. And this is where these claims are coming from. - Yeah, well then you have to discount those things. - Why? - Yeah, because-- - I give them more clarity. - Not one. Is it not everything on social media is true. - Everything on truth social is though. - Because it's not a social media platform. - Because it's it. - It's a truth platform. - Truth platform. - Yeah, they put it right in the name. - Yeah. - They put it right in the name. - How can you lie? - Yeah. - I believe you if it was called lying social. - Yeah, no. - No, but it's not called that. - But it would have been more appropriate though. - Really? - Yeah, I really do think so. - I mean like the only, are you on truth social? I'm on truth social. - Are you really on truth? - Yeah, but not as myself. Just I have an account there that I-- - Yeah. - I skew around. - Is there anybody on there? - Trump is on there for sure. I'm sure Vance, I don't even know, he might be. - Yeah, I mean like that. But the only thing to read on it is him, right? - I'm sure Trump Jr. is there too. - Oh yeah, yeah. Well like I said, the only thing that-- - But you know what's so great about truth social? - What? - He said they haven't implemented any of the things that you need to implement to stop scamming and spamming on a social site. - Yeah. - So if you go on Instagram and you follow 4,000 people right now, you're gonna get banned. If you do that on truth social, you're gonna get 400 followers. - Oh really? - Yeah, they're gonna follow you back. And then you're gonna send them a direct message 'cause the messages are open about-- - Yeah. - I don't know. - I think it's gonna make a lot of money. - Yeah, exactly. - A lot of money. - Exactly, right. - I'm gonna take this thing off now. - Yeah, good. - I'm gonna get it. - And now I'm gonna get it. - My hair is all messed up. - No, it's perfect. - Your hair's, you got great hair man. I wish I had your hair. - And thank you Viral. - Thanks for Viral. - You were great on that one. - You got to ruin the game. - Yeah, ruin it. - I bet you kept getting the same card over and over again. - Wait a second, I'm 9/11 also. - I think he rigged the game. - Are those 9/11 ones, too? - No, the other ones. - The other ones up there. - No, I think it's different. - Yeah, see that? - Well, that's was in case you wanted to play two more games. - No, that's right. (laughing) - That week didn't, yeah, okay. - Now, why does in the left talk about police brutality anymore? Did it finally end? - No, that's a great question though. - Is it, you know, there was a lot of talk about a lot of things but not as much anymore. I think they got, you know, the far, far left. - The stores got empty and they stopped carrying. - Yeah, exactly. - Were you, you probably, were you there looting? - No. - God no, no. - It's somewhere, if it was a couple of years earlier, you might have been. - No. - I would have been in a (beep) - You're not at time for any of this. - Shut your mouth. - Where do you think people were looting mostly in every one of that? - Yeah, but no, but you don't have time to do anything else. You know, you're just, you're just, you're just. - Well, I don't really know what the head space you're in when you're (beep) - What? - You know what's happening? - I'm telling you. - Yeah, you absolutely know what's happening. - But you would know that there's not (beep) in the Apple store? - Yes. - But would you consider that maybe you could sell an Apple computer for (beep) - Well, maybe, yeah, I guess you could go. - Yeah, it's true, but no, I wasn't looting. No, I'm vehemently opposed to looting. - Really? - I never really understood it. Why do you do that? - I'm not opposed to it, I understand it. And I'm not even a leftist. - And by the way, that's like, I hope that's not like a really offensive political position to take. I'm against looting. - I'm against looting. - It's offensive to about 13% of the population. - Yeah, and I'm for some police, you know? I am 100%. - Now they're really pissed. - Please, please, please. - Yeah. - Uh-oh. - Is that for like a guy coming in here? The fat head, there's nobody out there with a big head. My head is like this. - I think you reminded us that 9/11 is tomorrow, so he's kind of doing them a memorial right now. - Yeah, exactly. - This is to honor the lives lost in the victims' families. You're taking your hat off for them? - Well, that's a good idea, actually. Yeah. - I took my hat off for them. - You didn't have a hat on, okay. I'm ready, we got another game? No, we don't, no more games. Come on in. Come on in, Mike, Mike. Oh, sorry, you're good. Okay. I forgot you, buddy. Well, don't let him destroy your wrapping paper. - Well, that's okay. - We don't need, you can save them. - Bring in. Careful. Okay. It's all right. - Have any advice for him? - No. - I don't know. I, I, smile, Mikey. Mike, Mike. - And it looks like he's smiling, sort of. He's a good man. Sorry, buddy. Okay. Do you think the government is overstepping? - I got to understand it. Do I think the government's overstepping? - Do you think the government is overstepping by making it illegal to sell homemade (beep) inside the target restroom? - I absolutely, 100%. - Yes, exactly. - I know a guy who got arrested for that. Do you know they want to sell (beep) through the mail now? And Don Jr. owns like half the company. Well, I mean, is there, is there a safer guy to do it? - What? - Is there a safer guy to do it? (laughing) - His brother is a professional hunter. - No, Don, I think Don's is a professional one. - Are you sure I thought it was the other guy? Maybe I'm wrong though. - Yeah, I think it's Don. I think Don's the big, big hunter guy. - You killed like a lion or something. - Did you see that one there? It's sitting there and they have that dead leopard? Like, how could you do that? - That's cool. That's not even possible. - They killed him. - A random animal in Africa. - Awful. - Who didn't even know that humans existed until they (beep) in the head. - Awful, awful, awful. - Awful, you don't do that for fun? - Fucking well, Mike doesn't think it's fun. He looks like he's either having the greatest or worst time of his life right now. - Either one. - For about 15 minutes. - Yeah, then 15 minutes. (laughing) Okay. - We only have a couple left. - Okay, that's all right. I feel like I should hold him. Sorry buddy. - This makes people like that more calm. - Yeah, just to make him more calm. I have a calming effect on people. - Yeah, you're like an easy talker. - Yeah. - And there's like a warmth empty. - You sound very similar to your father actually. - I do, like the same always. My brother is kind of like him too. - Yeah, I'm getting there. Get in there, I still have my hair left. - Yeah. - Okay. - Can you make people that you don't like disappear? - Yes. - You can do that. - Yes. - Have you ever done that before? - But like a magician, not any other way. - No, like make them disappear, but no. - No, no, no, I know magic. So like I can do that thing where you like have a sheet and then you hold it. - You wanna do with this? Can you try with the cheese stick? - I don't think so, because it's not big enough. But I can, if I have the-- - Is the 9/11 paper big enough? - What? - They watch. - Okay, get up my mic for a second. - What's up? - What's up? - No, I'm not gonna be able to do it. - No, you need it, you need more, it's all right. - It's okay. - You can see back down. - You can see back down, my mic. I was gonna, I was gonna do a disappearing thing. - Yeah. - But it's okay, yeah. - And what class do you usually mean in terraria? melee, ranger, magic, or summoner? - Wait, see that again. - What class do you usually mean in terraria? - I don't know what a main one is. - No, no, a main one. - Which class would you choose in terraria? melee, ranger, I don't do terrarium. Terraria. - Terraria, I don't-- - You should try it out. - What is it? - It's a great game. You can play it, and then if you ever have like-- - Oh, a video game? - Yeah, so I'm sort of each to do some-- - I don't have, now I have a laptop. I'll be able to do it. - It does run on MacBooks, actually. It runs on an iPhone, too. - Oh, it does. - They ported it to iPhone. - I started like 12 terraria, which class do you think you'll try? - Say it again, what are the classes? - melee, ranger, summoner, and magic. - Ranger. - Ranger? I'll tell you this, you should save up some gold in the beginning, so you can buy the mini shark from the gunsmith. That's probably the best one you can use it. - Can I get pointers from you? - I'll help you, for sure. - Okay, absolutely. - We can even do a multiplayer world, if you like. - Oh, really? - And I can actually help you. - I would love to do that. - Yeah. - Okay. - Do you think you have some sort of future in politics? Will you ever try running, maybe for president, senate? - Not right now. - No. - But potentially in the future? - No, I am, I have no intention of running for anything. - Really? - Yeah. - Why? - Because I think I can help a lot more people talking to them about recovery when I'm not running for anything. - Yeah. - Okay. - But once you add politics into it, then-- - That becomes complicated. But you are already political. You know what I mean? - No, I'm already-- - I'm not political-- - I elected office. I have political opinions. - But I'm saying, the negatives that somebody would get from being an office or running for office, they get just by the association. They cut off like half of the people will take them, you know, less seriously, will think they're lying. You already have that, because your father was Joe Biden. - Yeah, that's true. - So you don't really, the negative has already been given to you. There's positives with it also, but you already have the negatives. - No, that's true, but I feel like you can talk past that with people in recovery. And you know, when you're recovering, you're trying to help somebody else. They don't ask you whether you're a Republican or a Democrat. - Well, they should, 'cause if you're talking to a demon-- - Yeah. - They're probably gonna have to treat you. - Well, a demon, they definitely should ask. Yeah. - That's what I'm saying. - Yeah. - Are you conservative, good boy? - Sorry, buddy. - A demon, (bleep) up. You know, I'm afraid he's gonna have, [BLANK_AUDIO] Cramp up no, that's a spasm. Okay. Do you think long neck could ever become present in one day loud neck long neck? Loud next a new one. They should do it. I don't know. I don't know long neck He's my next guest right now in like three minutes. He's on the way upstairs. Oh really? I think he got stuck in the elevator. Well, he fell through that little slit, you know, like the oh he's that small and fragile He's a little bitch fuck you long neck We're gonna beat him up when he comes in here. You want to join in? Yeah, sure and don't forget this? Okay. All right By the way, I'm gonna cherish this. That is the best gift I've ever given somebody. Usually I insult people with the gifts That's a very nice gift no joke It's a real deal. Thanks brother. Okay, have a good one. I don't want to spill anything ever again. Mike might you get in that first or make? Imagine setting your makeup then forgetting it's even theirs meet new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York Gel to miss technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all day comfy grip No tightness no stickiness no residue just plum do we hydrated skin that still feels like your skin Try new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York.

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Key Points:

  1. Hunter Biden shares his journey as a former addict and advocates for addiction recovery, emphasizing the need for better support systems and decriminalization of drug use.
  2. He addresses public scrutiny surrounding his personal life, including drug use and relationships, while clarifying that he has never used substances during his father’s presidency and was sober over a year before.
  3. Hunter expresses skepticism toward conspiracy theories, such as claims linking Jeffrey Epstein to Osama Bin Laden, and criticizes misinformation spread on platforms like Truth Social, while highlighting the importance of factual accountability and digital privacy.

Summary:

Hunter Biden, a former addict and son of President Joe Biden, opens up about his personal journey with substance abuse, crediting sobriety to a pivotal moment after his brother’s death. He shares his work with recovery organizations and promotes a foundation aimed at supporting individuals in recovery, especially in Los Angeles. He deflects claims of drug use during his father’s political career, stating he was clean before the presidency and only began using around the time of his brother’s death.

Hunter discusses the societal stigma faced by people with addiction, arguing that it's more about cultural judgment than substance use itself, and calls for decriminalization of drugs to reduce violence and incarceration. He challenges conspiracy theories, particularly those linking Epstein to Bin Laden, and criticizes misinformation on social media platforms like Truth Social. He also reflects on his interactions with political figures, expressing no interest in entering politics, believing his advocacy for recovery is more impactful than political office.

The conversation includes playful games, personal anecdotes, and a touching moment when he receives a meaningful gift—a 2017 MacBook—symbolizing both his recovery and connection with his audience. Hunter concludes by emphasizing that his identity is defined by compassion and support for recovery, not by political or public scrutiny.

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Hunter Biden is a former and recovering addict who has worked with organizations like Peek Path Health. He is currently working to start a foundation for people in recovery and aftercare in Los Angeles.

No, Hunter Biden was not using drugs when his father was president. He became sober over a year before his father became president and only began using at the very end of his father's vice presidency, shortly after his brother's death.

Yes, Hunter Biden supports decriminalizing drug use, especially for substances like marijuana, believing that criminalization contributes to violence in the black market and that people should have a chance at recovery instead of being incarcerated.

Hunter Biden says he forgives Donald Trump if he says such things, but if Trump didn't say them, he would respond by saying 'go fuck yourself.'

Hunter Biden is not a big fan of his family, including his brother and son, though he says he doesn't dislike Barron Biden and believes he may have a future.

He believes the scrutiny is unfair and that it's not because of his race, but because he doesn't rap or have a similar public image to other figures, and that people often focus on his personal life rather than his substance use recovery.

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