Matan Finally Confronts Clavicular About His Allegations

- Hey guys, welcome back to the podcast of today's guest. We have Clavicular, welcome in, please. How's it going for today's co-host? We have Mike, welcome in Mike. Nice to meet you. So if you could just pull the mic close to you and introduce yourself and all that one. - Absolutely, how's it going guys? I'm Clavicular, I post on, you know, social media and I mainly do live streaming. And what, what do you post on there? What do people know you from? - They know me mostly from looks maxing, from like black pearl content. - And what does that mean for those who might not know? - Those who might not have autism. Looks maxing is like the furthest extent of male self-improvement, right? Taking things to the logical conclusion, right? You see-- - Logical conclusion. - Right, yeah. So in terms of self-improvement, what's commonly known, it's just basic, you know, gym maxing stuff, you know, maybe getting lean, maybe getting a little bit of a tan. But it's a significant step further. Pushing the limits a little bit, you know, with pharmaceutical intervention, you know, certain antibiotics, steroids, you know, plastic surgery, kind of whatever is. - Right, and you said actually, you started steroids at 14 years old, right? - Correct, yeah. - You think your parents made the right decision allowing you to take steroids at 14 years old? - Well, they didn't really allow me to do anything. I was just gonna do it when we're in another, you know? - Oh, so you would have taken steroids regardless of if they allowed you to do it? - Well, they definitely didn't allow me. - No, they didn't. - No. - So how were you getting steroids then at 14? - Well, so there's this thing called general delivery at the post office where you can have them hold it there. I'd usually just go pick it up. - And you were just able to order this online? - Correct. - Wow, is this something you recommend for other 14 year olds to do? - No, so there's a lot. - Because most parents are unreasonably like, hey, I don't want my 14 year old son on steroids. It's like, how do we change their minds? - Unreasonably, no, I'd say that's extremely reasonable. The thing is, yeah, that's very reasonable. Most, I never advocate for that sort of intervention that early, because while there is a lot that you can get out of, you know, taking steroids, taking different peptides, growth hormone at a young age, a lot of people aren't gonna have the knowledge to be able to do things properly, and they wind up detrimenting themselves and not really ascending or looks maxing properly. So I would say that the IQ is. - So what you're saying is that the issue we taking steroids at 14 years old is that most people, one of the knowledge of how to do it correctly, but if they were as smart as you, they could actually do it and it would be beneficial. - Well, that sounds like me being kind of a dickhead, you know, being egotistical, but. - No, not even just use specifically, just more people should generally should take steroids at 14 years old. They're just not smart enough to do that. - Not necessarily steroids, but certain things that, you know, elevate growth pathways like human growth hormone - Right. - Are actually commonly prescribed, you know, so those can be phenomenal during development. - Scientists have now confirmed that while taking - Will make you less hungry, it will also make you completely insane. Is the trade still worth it? - Arguably so, because lean is law, right? Have you heard that saying before? - Lean is what? - Lean is law. - Yeah, I feel like there's better ways to get lean than taking (beep) - Like what? - Maybe just dieting correctly? - Dieting correctly? Well, yeah, there's certainly. - This guy's kind of freaking me out of here. - He's neck maxing, did you give him that? - No, he's, well, yeah, but I didn't give it to him. He's on it, but like, not micro-dosing, whatever that means, like you. - He's mega-dosing. - Terrific. - Yeah, he's max-dosing. - Yeah, he's max-maxing. - He's trying to make his neck longer. - Oh, how's that going for him? - I mean, his neck is bright or red, so I guess maybe it's where, I don't know how that works. You wouldn't know better than me. - Yeah, neck-maxing, I haven't really seen anyone going for more length on their neck, but it's certainly an interesting one I'll have to look into that after the podcast. - Right, so you seem, you're autistic, right? - Yeah, I'm neurodivergent, yeah. - Right, so I mean, you seem like a guy who has probably decent self-control when it comes to this stuff. I mean, your entire life revolves around it. Why do you take a minute and not just not eat? - Well, so the reason for me (beep) and this is a prescription for my doctor, right? We're not just using street drugs and a ridiculous context, right? To go out and party. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. So, see who you get. - Oh, you know I'm an opener. - I want you to, I want to get the toilet guy. - Is this a bomb or something? - No. Who did you get? - Yes! - Awesome. - Yes! - It was a one in four, I got it, I fucking got it. - One in four chants. - Yes! - That's right. - Give it back to me, I want it. - Okay, absolutely, yes, sir. Yeah, so the thing about (beep) is very similar to a dextrone phatamine. It's just, we're taking dextromethan phatamine. So that addition of the methyl group to the compound, essentially just makes it longer acting, cross the blood brain barrier a little bit quicker and give us a little bit more appetite suppression over a longer duration of time. But why don't you just suppress your appetite by not, I mean, just naturally, you know what I mean? Instead of taking these medicines? - Well, you know, why do you do anything that's going to give you results quicker, right? So why take TRT, why take steroids? - What is it gonna give you a result? You're saying it's gonna suppress your appetite. He's not gonna make you lose weight. It's just gonna help you not lock the self-control basically 'cause you're not gonna have the urge to do it. If you had enough self-control, you wouldn't need this at all. It won't get you there quicker, you know what I'm saying? - Incorrect, right? So you're gonna be allowed to push further into caloric deficit, get leaner quicker. But I'm just saying what I do, what works for me, I'm not advising anyone to do this. I advise people so heavily against stimulant usage, I don't think that people should be taking Adderall. I think that the prescription rate of Adderall is absurd and I think it leads people down the wrong path. - Do people generally shouldn't be doing drugs? - No, no, absolutely not. Okay, I'm just very open and honest about what I do. - Aren't you high on (beep) for you often? - Depends on what you would categorize as often, but from like a normie perspective, probably. - Like more than once a week? - Yeah, I'd say probably twice, twice a week. - Yeah, I mean, that's pretty often, I mean. - Right, I'm not trying to say you're a hypocrite. If you're saying for most people not to do it, then that's good, it's just like, I don't know, that's pretty often, twice a week, what are you gonna, I mean, are you not scared you're gonna get addicted? - No, I have a lot of self-control and willpower, right? That's why I'm just like, this is what I do. I have strong will, okay, but most (beep) out there are unable to control themselves. You see this with the obesity rates, how gluttonous people are, they can never just have one chicken finger, it's gotta be, you know, 20. They can never have one Oreo, they eat the entire box. - They can never have one Coke, they need, I don't even know, I don't know what's the example there. - Okay, well that's probably a good thing, you don't know. - Yeah, I'm not high on (beep) I've never done (beep) I've never drunk alcohol, I'm very sober, but congratulations. That's what I recommend. I think alcohol is one of the most underrated, like evils of this generation. Simply due to the fact that people start consumption so early into their life and it extremely neurotoxic, it's horrible for your growth pathways and it really fucks people over. - Sometimes even at 14 years old. - Yeah, exactly, I mean, that's true. Arguably alcohol is much worse than (beep) no, I was gonna say then taking something like testosterone or human growth hormone at an early age. Much more detrimental and you see it much more commonly. - Is someone cooked if they're missing their nose? - If they're missing their nose. - Yes. - I would certainly suggest that, yeah. - How do you know? It seems like you didn't even have an example of that. - If they're missing their nose, I mean, I don't know, like what are we talking about burn victims there? - No, a guy doesn't have a nose. It sort of looks like Voldermort. - I would say that he would definitely be approaching the sub five looks range without a nose. - But isn't it most people want a small nose? Isn't that the ideal shape, a small pointed nose? - It's a little bit more nuanced than that, but generally, yeah. So isn't it even better if you don't have a nose? - If you don't have a nose. - Yes. - I would say that having a nose is definitely an aesthetic trait, but just not like a big ole shnauz, you know? - Yeah, but isn't it you want to take it to the max level? - Not necessarily. - Isn't the level 100 here? The max level is no nose. - It's all about measurements. It's all about objectivity, right? So falling within the ideal ratios, that's what you're going for, right? So you have a good nose. You didn't get the brutal physiognomy of, you know, your genetics, 'cause-- - I'm not Jewish if that's what you're going for. - Oh, you're not. - I'm not Jewish, no. - Okay. - I'm related to whatever this thing is. - And what is that thing? - I don't know, it looks like he. I don't even know. I'm just so excited that I got him. Ghibli Toilet, because that's what the kid's like. I'm gonna do a giveaway. - That's it. - So anybody who comments on this video has a chance to win this Ghibli Toilet figurine. - Nice. - Who do you think is the most attractive man in the world? - The most attractive man in the world. I would say that in terms of, you know, harmony, percentage, it's like a very objective thing. This is not really based on like an opinion of mine. Would be Matt Bommer scores the highest, I think. - Is this a little gay? - I could see how it'd appear that way at first glance, but it's all based on mathematics. So it's not like a-- - Who do you think is the most attractive man in the world? - Well, I would say that's the most mock person. Yeah, when you say it, when you phrase it like that, it does sound a little bit homosexual, but when you just say who mocks the hardest, I would say probably like a Tyler Mayor. - This, I mean, you are, this is homosexual one you're in now, not necessarily now. - Okay, fine, can you give me your top five most attractive men that you like? - Well, you see, your phrasing is a little bit. - How am I phrasing that? - Top five most attractive men who you like the most. - Yeah, that's not. - On your opinion. - That's definitely homosexual. - I didn't say anything about homosexual, this is objective, right? - Well, in the way that I'm phrasing it, but just how you're asking the question is homosexual. - Okay, fine, can you give me the top five men that you're most attracted to? - Yeah, okay, there we go. Go ahead. - So you're really doubling down on that. So like I said, it's all mathematics. Like, people can sit here and cope. A lot of normies do, especially a lot of women have been throwing that name-calling around, "Oh, you're a homosexual because. " - I'm not calling you a homosexual. - Well, no, I'm just saying in general, like people on Twitter will say that, like because I've had a lot of viral clips of me rejecting like atrocious-looking women and having standards for myself. And they'll be like, "Oh, dude, she's beautiful. "You must be a homosexual." And it's like, "No, I just have some standards for myself. "I like women with a little bit of class." That's the same thing when you start talking about aesthetics which is all based upon mathematics. It's like, they just throw around homosexual because they don't fall within. - You're saying that mathematically, there's gonna be some guys that you're more attracted to than women because the woman is ugly and there can be a man that scores so high in the rating that you're gonna be more attracted to him than a very unattractive woman. - That's not how it works. That would be how it would work if I was a homosexual, but. - I don't understand the difference. I'm saying that there's some women. - Between homosexual and not. - Between you and homosexual. - Well, because we're not talking about sexuality. We're talking about objective numbers. - Yeah, I'm saying that somebody is so objectively attractive even if they're a man that you'll like them. - It's not necessarily attractive. It's more harmonious is probably about you. - But you are attracted to them. - No. - But they're so harmonious, no? - No, that's not necessarily how it works. I could get how this could be confusing to you, but so we're talking about who falls within a certain set of ideals. - I understand, but I'm saying because there's always people who are attracted to them. - Doesn't seem like you do understand because you're getting. - You're saying that there's an objective set of things that would make somebody attractive. - That would make someone good-looking, correct? - Yeah, yeah. And I'm saying that because they're objectively good-looking, you're attracted to them. - That's not correct, because I'm not a homosexual. I know this is hard, but just bear with me. I know you're. - The only thing I'm struggling with here to understand. - That seems like you're struggling with the entire process. - No, I get the whole concept, just not the part about you not being a homosexual. - No, it really doesn't seem like you get it at all. - I get the entire thing about how to look. - Listen, it's okay. - I know we're moving quickly here and this is all new concepts. I'm sure most of the viewers don't know, but I'll slow it down for you if you want, and we could really get into it, and I could. - Is this working? - This, neck maxing? - Yeah. - Absolutely. - But yeah, no. At first glance, when we lay out all this new information, it kind of like mindfucks people. You can see that's happening to you a little bit. You don't really understand it. - I understand the entire concept. I get the whole thing. - It just doesn't seem like you're saying one thing, but you're articulating another. - Okay. - All articulated and explained it in. - There are certain traits that will make somebody objective in good looking. - I think you just, you don't get it. So I'll just move on to the next one. - There are certain traits that will make somebody objectively good looking. - Right, so someone can be. - And because of that, you're attracted to them. - No, no, that's not how it works. - No, I'm not attracted to them 'cause the traits are objectively good looking. - But someone can be, no, so do you wanna just tell me what I am for the rest of the podcast? Do you wanna tell me that I'm attracted to someone? - I was just gathering from the hints you were giving. It's like, that's what it just seemed like. If you're denying it, then that's fine. - Well, no, so I mean, like this is a very basic thing conceptually. I don't know if you're trying to like troll or anything, but I'm trying to be like genuine and like give you an understanding of like looks max and aesthetics. Like if you wanna have like middle school level understandings and just make jokes the whole time. - I'm not joking around. - We can do that too. I love to. - I'm even misunderstanding. I don't know. - Well, I love to, you know, fuck around and be. But I didn't know if we were doing like a formal thing. Like if you want me to just like say here and be already. - No, do whatever. Do whatever is most natural for you, I would say. - Yeah, yeah. I was just trying to, you know, lay it out for your audience kind of explain it a little bit. - If somebody offered you $100, but it wasn't until you offered the whole thing before it. How many times do you think it's the one it was and then this one it was and then some? Not the whole thing though, obviously, or it. Do you do it or no? - And you hit the question. How many times do you think it's the one it was and then some? Do you do it or no? - I'm not really sure what you're asking about. - Do you do it or no? Like would you do it or would you not do it? - What is it? You're gonna have to specify that. - The thing for $100. We thought, but obviously not the whole thing. - But I just need a little bit of clarification on what the thing is. - Are you don't understand? - I just need a little bit of clarification. - We'll move on, it's fine. - Yeah. - Do you mark Martin, even though he's not black? - Is he not black? - He's new to me. - But no, he definitely mags me. - He does mag you. - Yes, absolutely. - But you said he might not because he's black. And I don't know, I can't actually get an answer on if he's black. I've seen different readings here. - Well, obviously he's biracial. - You see? - Yeah. But no, he definitely mags me, yeah. And that was just a joke clip, you know. - Right. - So you think it is possible that black people can be objectively good looking? - Absolutely, yeah. - Do you just think it's less likely? - Not necessarily, but there's a lot of the ratios that might not favor certain people of African descent, especially the nose and some of the chin and lip projections like stuff like that. - What about the brain? - Well, that's a whole other thing. And that's a lot of race, realism stuff. That don't really acknowledge or talk about. - Dude, I don't think it's true. - Well, it's just not something I'm really that well versed on. - Oh, okay. - I haven't done the research, so I couldn't speak on that. - But you're not a racist. - No. - Okay. - Why? - Why am I not a racist? Dude, because there are so many things to preoccupy all your neurotransmitters with than hating other groups of people, right? You could do looks maxing, you could think about, you know, doing (beep) like there's just so many better alternatives than like, oh, what am I gonna sit here and hate Black people all day? - No, that would be a complete waste of time. - Exactly. - That's such a waste of time. Maybe if there was like an excellence. - I do think it's better than doing (beep) though being racist. - Dude, yeah. I think the scale is like, this is even, this is like just normal activity. - If there was six hours. - This is being racist and doing nothing and then at the bottom is doing (beep) there is an extra six hours that I had in each day. Maybe I would consider being racist just 'cause I would have extra time. But right now, she don't got the time for it. - Okay, but you would do (beep) instead like you're more, well, actually, obviously. I mean, what a, don't you do this fucking thing on the camera? I don't even, it's like a little kid's toy. - Yeah, exactly. - To make you look like a joke. I'm 18. - Really? - Yeah. - You're impressive kid for 18. - Is it true that smashing your face with metal until you have a hematoma makes you more attractive? - Maybe not until you have a hematoma, but certainly creating micro fractures along certain bones like, you know, your zygos and, you know, the zygomatic arch can certainly benefit some people aesthetically, but I would not say that you wanna cause any like CT or head trauma. - But wanna look really attractive if you have a big bump coming out of your forehead? - Dude, I don't think so. I think that might not be within the ideals. - Why not? - Why not to have a big protruding lump coming out of your forehead? - Yeah, actually, it could be very ideal because then people will treat you better. They might think you have cancer. - I think maybe we should experiment on that one. That's kind of uncharted territory. I can't confidently speak on that one. - There's no objectives here yet 'cause nobody's tried it, nobody's gone this far? - Correct, yeah. Yeah, we should definitely try this. - I'm thinking about it. You kind of piled me on that. - There's a pretty easy way to do it. I did it to my body once, not on accident, but also not to make it more attractive. I just slammed the door on his head and if you get a straight shot right here, it'll come out like this far. - Yeah. So, door maxing, yeah, that should be a new looks max. That's true. - Yeah. - Maybe he was sympathy maxing from like all the women in the hospital. - No, I slammed the door on his head 'cause I was pissed off and he was sleeping. - Ah. - He wasn't trying to look better. But actually, people felt bad for him 'cause he had, it kept good. - I mean, I would too. You slammed the door on his face. - Well, nobody knew that. I mean, he was like barely conscious for like the rest of the day. He was like, oh shit. But is it, I mean, if people are smashing their heads until they have micro-factures. At some point, this is gonna go wrong. - No, no, I wouldn't use them to bring them. - Let's have a little bit of clarity here. They're not smashing their heads, right? 'Cause that's ridiculous. You're creating micro-factures in very localized- - By smashing your head. - No, no, no, no. By, it's very localized in very pinpoint and specific. - Like this? - Well, you wanna brace your head, right? Because, you know, all that head trauma is gonna occur if you don't have an accurate brace. So what I do is I'll lay down in my bed so that I've got the bracing and I'm able to just, you know, precision pinpoint the localized- - It's just a permanent thing. You'll permanently look better. This is just for the night. - Ah, yeah, so you'll permanently look better, but that'll take a lot of time to kind of, you know, apply Wolf's Law. But it's more of an immediate, like, you know, ascension with the swelling of the soft tissue. - Do you, I mean, is there really actually any women in the world who are to be taken seriously, who would only date somebody because their face looks like 3% better because they smashed it until they had a bunch of micro-fractures? - Your face either looks good or it looks bad. How you got there is not going to be- - Yeah, but it's just gonna be like the final thing, like, let's say somebody's genetics can get them to a seven out of 10. This is gonna get them to one, like a 7.05. - Well, how much it can ascend you is going to be, you know, case dependent, you know, because certain people will benefit from getting wider zygos and certain people won't, right? So that's it. That's, that's person to person dependent. - I think they should just go for the hematoma because then it's like, - Maybe they could dilute themselves into thinking they're attractive. That'd probably be the best way to look smacks. - No, they won't even care anymore. They'll just be dead in the hospital or something. - Based, yeah. I do agree. - Why would your parents-- - Sorry, you saying that that in cells are just kidding themselves? - No, I don't, I think the whole in-cell culture is like, I'm not in in-cell, I don't talk to women, but I'm not in-cell. - You're a voluntary, voluntarily celibate. - Yeah, that's what I would say. Like, I feel like if I went around trying to talk to them, - How do you know for sure that you're voluntary versus you? - I guess it's possible that I'm a voluntary celibate who also would be an in-cell, but-- - But you can't be both. It's like, you're either an in-cell-- - But I don't know the answer for sure. So you're right, it is one of the other, but-- - I think you would be able to probably get a girl. I think you do fine. - Yeah, I don't know. I think it's just a waste of time and when it comes to the in-cells-- - It's based. - It's based, yeah. - It's like, well, your entire thing is based off. What do you mean based? - Like I agree with you, like that's-- - But your whole thing is based off getting women. - Well, what you said about them being a waste of time, and that's not my whole thing, right? I just want to mock people. I don't give a fuck about-- - You don't even care about picking up women. You just want to look better than other dudes. - Well, no, that's not exactly what I'm saying. I'm saying that it is certainly a waste of time. Do I do it? Am I going to probably do it within the next few days? Go talk to women and waste a bunch of time at bars and stuff? - Yeah, I'm gonna fucking do it. I'm a young guy. That's kind of how we operate. But what I'm trying to get out of these extreme looks maxing protocols is to basically mock people. That's like my main goal. - Hey guys, all for the interruption. 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That's code Maton, M-A-T-A-N, to get $50 in lineups after playing just $5 in lineups. Thank you to Price Peaks for sponsoring today's episode. Price Peaks is good to be right. - Does long Johnson mark Big Billy? - Not quite sure. - What about Gap? - Not familiar with these serms. And then there's Malayam. - Am I, is this like a niche like part of the internet I'd need to tap into? I don't understand. - No, these are, I thought I don't even know how you don't know them. Long Johnson and Big Billy? - Sounds like a nickname for a cock. - No, he's a cat versus a cat versus a cat in a tub versus maybe another cat in a tub. - Yeah, I might have to look those up on Urban Dictionary. You better not be fucking lying to me about those. - That's literally what it is. I mean, well, I don't know if you say so. - If you say so. - What do you think I'm lying to you? - Yes. - So who do you think Mark's long Johnson or Big Billy? - Ah, dude, I couldn't say. I'd say that definitely be a toss up. - What about Gap? - Ooh, I would put him in third place for sure. - 'Cause I named him third? - Probably, yeah. I've got no idea the context of any of this. - Okay. - I wanna grab something. We have a little game I wanna play with you. - What's that? - So I have some photos here of some different people. - Okay. - And I wanted you to write them objectively. - Oh, God. - And tell me if they're good looking, they're not good looking. - This is my least favorite bit, but we'll do it. I got you. I'll do it for you. You came all the way to Florida, so. - Why don't you like this? - Well, it just gets overwhelming, right? Every time I go to a fucking bar or whatever, a thousand drunk, cooked up fucking kids. - Can you rate me, club? Can you rate me? It just gets overwhelming. - Well, I'll do it, I'll do it. - Okay, but you have to make this objective, okay? - This spikes my quarters all. Not a lot does, but this gets me stressed out. - I would say, you want me to hold it up? - Yeah, and then you can rate this person. I think that's actually no homo, a very attractive guy. - Yeah, I think this guy mags. I think we should all be aiming for this. Look with the synth all. I think I might go do my synth all injections. - Because look at his shoulders there. - Yeah, this guy kind of looks like Rich Piana. - Kind of looks like you, don't you think? - A little, I wish, dude. I wish I looked like this guy. - Okay, so the rating goes up to seven, I believe, right? - It goes up to eight on the PSL scale, but we could do the death style thing, just be it. - No, let's do PSL. - PSL, I would give this guy about maybe a 2.5 PSL. - 2.5, how does anybody expect to get a decent rating if that guy's just a 2.5? - Well, I don't know, it looks like this guy is fucking beastings all over his shoulders. And he's not exactly the greatest looking facially, there's just a sad case of autism, essentially. This is when you get really not autism. Autism, you know, it was hard maxing. - Yeah, I know, but he was a **** about it. You want to be an autist about your hard maxes. There's like a very clear distinction, you know? But this guy mocks, all right? - Okay, so next one, so that guy's a 2.5. That's a ridiculous rating. - Is it really ridiculous? I'm gonna take a look at this guy. - I give him a six. - This guy a six? - That's a Chad light. - A Chad light? - I don't know, dude. That's pretty fucked. A six, you know what, fuck it. - Okay, the next one, this guy might, this guy might even be more attracted than the last one. - Okay. Black Stephen Hawking. Wow, take a look at this one. I feel like he ascended from like becoming black in this photo, don't you think? - I don't think that's Stephen Hawking. - It kinda looks like it. - I think he's also just disabled. - I'm pretty sure that's a black edited version of Stephen Hawking. - No, he's a real guy, Mr. Hawking. Hawking. - Hawking, what's this? - That's the guy's name. Hawking. - Hawking. - Yeah. - This is Stephen Crippin, I think. - Yeah, so what do you, yeah. Well, Stephen Hawker, what's the guy's name? I don't even remember the Sean Walker. - I don't even know. - Let's just call him the Sean. - What does he get? - I would say that he definitely ascended from the change in phenotype. So I'm gonna give this guy maybe like a 3PSL. - That's it. - That's it. - You have that guy, okay. Don't bullshit around. This is more attractive than this. - The guy filled with oil. - Yeah, maybe facially a little bit, but it's certainly close. Neither of them are good looking. - Here's the next one. - Sigma Frog. Well, that's obviously Giga Chad. I mean, this goes without saying. - I don't know what he's above Chad, but this is like, well, I mean, this is like a rhetorical question. I feel like what PSL is, this is obviously eight. - Yeah, I agree. - Yeah, so. - Dahl, we're on the same page. - Yeah. - That's long, Nick. He's trying to look like him. - He's coming. - No, I feel like he should try to mark him. Not look like him. He's almost there. Let's take a look. - Not really. - What do you give long neck? - I give long neck. Also, I'm probably gonna give him a 2PSL. - Two, that's it. - Yeah. - Well, actually, that's accurate. I would say. - Yeah. - Nick here, wow. That's interesting kind of a disgusting human. - Yeah. - Okay, then the last one. - Last one. Oh. - Why do you give these guys? - It's not exactly a great photo of me. I don't know. - That's not you. - This must have been a night after drinking or some shit. - No, that's not you. 'Cause imagine, I've already made my brain so bad from all the bone smashing. This is what I actually look like and I'm tripping. - That's not you. I mean, maybe that could happen one day. - Okay, my bad, my bad. This guy. Ooh. Definitely like a 2.5 or 3PSL. - That's it. - Maybe 3.25. - So not counting the frog because it's obviously not fair. He's number one. - Out of all of these people, who's number one? - Who's number one? - No, that guy's very bad facially. That's a really hard one. Let's see, can you pass these back to me? - Yeah, sure. I mean, feel free to take them and how you like. - Okay. - I didn't exactly do. - I think it's, I think it's the guy with oil in his head. - You think so? - Yeah, because in your saying, he's not attractive facially. Take in mind, by the way, that he's a little bit bloated 'cause he probably just had oil. - Well, yeah, I mean, but not face. - It's like a car, not his face. I mean, he would definitely be the best looking. [BLANK_AUDIO] were to be at a reasonable body fat and we're comparing him to a guy who's like a paraplegic who's got no control over his muscles. I think he's the lowest. I would say that arguably he would be more attractive if he had a little bit of control over his muscles potentially. He could definitely be at this guy. But this is interesting to watch and that's true, but he doesn't. But yeah, right now, right now out of all these people who would perform the best in the sexual market value probably would be this comical clown right here. But yeah, no. So in terms of I think you're jealous of him. I think that's why you're being so negative towards the oil guy. You got me there. You keep calling him a clown, but let me tell you something where that guy's from. Probably they think that that shit looks like so cool. Where do you think he's from? Probably not the smartest place. The IQ over there is probably like 60, but it doesn't matter because over there he's like, it makes me easier to get checks. No, because they all want to look like this, but none of them can afford the oil. Yeah, even though it's probably that's where the oil. So what do you think they're doing in there? Like gutter oil? No, this guy probably has the money to afford the oil. That's what separates him. Okay. Yeah. And then there's the frog. Brutal money pill right there. Yeah. Would you treat a homeless man better if he was extremely attractive? I think that everyone would. That's called the halo effect, right? So people who are a homeless or people who are good looking, sorry, are going to get opportunities that they're not asking about you personally. Well, it would be a subconscious thing. It's not really something that people have control over. It's just a subconscious bias. That's, you know, essentially, I feel like you can try to be conscious about that though, especially if you know that it's normally a subconscious thing. Well, I'm someone who's able to identify, you know, these biases because I understand the black pill, but, you know, maybe normies would just do it subconsciously and not realize why. Do you think he's better to be on the black pill or a normie? I would say that the black pill is a blessing and a curse because it gives a lot of people severe body dysmorphia, ruins them socially, and it could be hugely detrimental to people's mental health. Right. But it is a necessary truth, right? You have to acknowledge hard truths no matter what they do to you, no matter what the consequences are. Instead of living in fantasy land, essentially, it's easy to live in fantasy land. That's why the blue pill exists, like who doesn't want to make better refrigerators? Bosh or whirlpool? Well, I don't know, but ignorance is blessed, you know, the commonly, you know, saying, it's kind of how it works. Bosh or whirlpool? If you were to buy a refrigerator, Bosh or whirlpool? Whirlpool. Or Bosh. I feel like whirlpool sounds a little better fridge manufacturing. What is this like a secret like terrorist organization or something that I just, uh, no, that's the names of the people who produce refrigerators. Uh, okay. I don't know if that was a gacha moment. What's the gacha that you don't know about refrigerators? I guess not. I guess I got you there. That wasn't really the intent of it. Is the stereotype the black people of darker skinned and white people true? And is it racist? Is the stereotype true? I think I'd have to do a little bit of research on that one and get back to you, but I'd say it's possible. I don't want to confidently say. Is it racist? Is it a racist stereotype? There are some racist stereotypes like, you know, maybe these group of people, these more dangerous, and then there's some true stereotypes like agents eating dogs. Hmm. Well, uh, you know, the production of melanin as an adaptation for, for black people that could be racist. I feel like a lot of evolution is racist. So maybe it is. Right. Some of them might have actually not wanted the melanin. Maybe not. Yeah. It kind of just like was pulled upon them by a white pill. Dude, that's just like an evolution pill, a science pill, if anything. How could they become white? Is that part of hardmoxing? How can they become white? Like before they go out every night, they paint themselves white. I'm sure that's been done before by some crazy lunatic, but a lot of the differences between white people and black people are not only pigment related, right? So that that's why you can easily identify something. I'm pretty shocked that you're like autistic or neurodivergent. You sound incredibly normal. Thank you. I appreciate it. Like I wouldn't have guessed that to be completely honest. Well, yeah, I'm pretty sociable of a guy, but you know, that doesn't mean I'm like the most normal person. No, but I'm saying you just peeking such a way in about subjects that it's like, wow, this guy isn't completely normal. Well, there you go. And a and a world full of lies, the truth just sounds like, you know, a little bit different, I guess. Right. Why are people about it, Dr. Klaaf, for injecting a 17 year old girl's face with fat dissolver? Well, because they don't realize how low the risk profile is for doing something like an aqualux, right? This can't cause any vascular occlusion. So the worst that really could happen if you were to do something like NicaVane is just slight bruising like it's extremely, extremely safe to do aqualux. Yeah, but by that argument, couldn't you also just do it to like a 10 year old and the same effect would still apply? Well, someone who's 10 years old is going to have their facial fat redistribute a lot of times and go through a lot of lipogenesis throughout their years. Couldn't you say the same about a 17 year old, maybe not as much as a 10 year old, but yeah, certainly. I mean, it's a little bit early in life to be doing certain things like that, but maybe don't do it in the future. Well, the risk profile is so low, where it's not really that big of a deal. I just wouldn't want to personally go through all the swelling phase from the aqualux, you know, the oil sitting in your cheeks similar to this guy right here, just for the lipogenesis to occur once again. I don't think so. You were trying to make your girlfriend look like this guy. Not my girlfriend, but whoever it was, that girl that you were with, you wanted her to look like him. That makes sense. Yeah, exactly. He's a pretty good looking guy. And you said that you were explaining earlier that some good looks are objective, but you're also some, like not subjectively, you're personally attracted to men like that, right? Oh, men like this. Yes, I feel like who wouldn't be. Look at this. I'm not because I'm not gay, but it's like, if I was, I don't know. Yeah, this would be your choice. Who would you choose out of the photos right here? Objectively, the best looking is the guy with the oil. If you were homosexual, who would you choose? Because you're not. I'm not a homosexual. No, yeah, absolutely. I mean, no, not the black like also not long neck. I think long next this guy is not a homosexual. Remember, but anyway, and then this is just a picture of you. Oh, that was a picture of me. No, it's not. And then so obviously the answer is the guy with the oil. Yeah, but I mean, this is a recounting the frog, or it's not fair. No, that's not fair. That's just makes it too easy. Yes. What would be more convincing to a woman a PSL rating of seven or a loaded shot more convincing to a woman? I would say that a rating of seven PSL probably more than a loaded shot arguably. I think you're going to need a truth max because that's not that's not right. No, if you go out into a bar with the woman to get into your car, I just don't think that you've ever experienced seven PSL before. I think you'd be very shocked. What PSL do you think that you are? I don't rate myself. That's one thing I'll never do because that just makes the whole thing feel like someone narcissistic and I don't want to ever have that illusion. You know, I feel like I've seen people who are seven PSL online according to your standards and there's no way they're more convincing than a like who would you say is an example of that? The frog. The frog. I don't know, dude. The frog the frog walks into a bar and he tells a girl to go home with them. I'd say that's probably as convincing as, you know, maybe someone like this guy going in with a loaded ****. I feel like they might just grab out of his hand and, you know, clock him in the head with that. A woman would do that? No way against this guy. What are they going to do? This guy would like, if you see a guy like this walk into a bar with a ****, it's like you try to get him to shoot you before he like shoots your leg and tries to eat you. I would say I would say it's worth a discussion. That's definitely worth like and a question and like a part of the black pill. Yeah. Yeah. There should definitely be like a sit down of like a black pill council to figure that one out. Is it true that if you're attractive enough, you can turn into a wasp. You can turn into a wasp. I haven't experienced that. So I, maybe you're just not attractive enough of that. Yeah. That's what I was about to say. Maybe, maybe I keep looks maxing. I'll have an answer for you. And is this something that you can do voluntarily or does it just happen randomly? Well, like I said, I'm not into control of this. I'm not attractive enough to where I've got to experience that pleasure turning into a wasp. But maybe this is something you can figure out. I'm trying to get there. Hopefully after my double jaw surgery, I'll be able to let you know about. He's not a joke that you're going to do that or you're really going to get a double jaw surgery. Really going to get a double jaw surgery. But isn't your face going to have to be wrapped up for many months? Not many months. Certainly a couple of weeks. There's going to be severe swelling, but actually just met a girl the other night who had a double jaw surgery and was two months post-op and you really couldn't even notice at all that she had any work done. So that was kind of a white pill kind of reassuring that it's really not that bad. What age did you decide that you were going to get double jaw surgery? I decided in April of 2024. Also recently, I mean, yeah, I don't know. You don't think that it's risky that it's going to fuck your face up? Well, there's risk in everything, right? There's there's always going to be risk, but with risk comes, you know, higher reward. So that's why I'm saying that I've weighed out all the pros and cons and I've really. realize that this is the way to go. - It's more likely to you that it will go well than not. - Correct, yeah. And I don't really think that if I'm looking at the entire picture that there's anything that could go wrong, even if it was at a detriment to me aesthetically, I think what it's gonna do for my social media of reality. Now, this is not the reasoning, just to clarify that I decided to go this route. - You're saying that you're gonna go viral because you like your face looks like it exploded if it goes wrong? - Well, good, yeah, could be, you know? So there's really no, there's really no lose in this scenario. - Yeah, I feel like there is. I feel like if it goes wrong, you'll go viral. And then you'll-- - Do you think I'll go more viral if it goes right or if it goes wrong? - If it goes wrong, but I don't think he's gonna be a sustainable thing to stay that viral. - That's probably true, yeah. Well, I think it's gonna go right. Okay, I wouldn't have ever decided to go that route just based off of virality. I've done extensive research on, you know, plastic surgery. And this is something that not a lot of people even know about when they're commenting, you know, oh, this is crazy. It's like, you've probably never heard of, you know, some of these osteotomy, some of these cuts until I mention them. So free to speak on them, it just seems a little bit ridiculous. - Yeah, it's like, you don't even know what you're talking about. Listen to me, I'm on (beep) but I'm actually on a weak break. I'm on (beep) now. - Well, no, I haven't actually really been doing as many drugs recently. - Okay. - I haven't even been drinking caffeine as much. When was the last time that you were on a drug? - Why did you, my laundry, like a few days ago decided to do a line to get that in the wash? - Yeah, so, I mean, you just said it was a little while since you last did it. I mean, what, like two days ago was a long time for that? - A little while ago, it's like, it's been like 12 hours, you know? - Probably more than 12 hours. - I think it's a little while. I mean, you seem like a nice guy and extremely normal. But I feel like it's unfortunate because you're doing all of these normal ways to go about looks maxing, but for whatever reason, you're probably just gonna have a heart attack. - Yeah, that's the thing about (beep) that's so risky, is you could just have a heart attack or a heart arrhythmia, like on the spot and die, doesn't matter if you're perfectly healthy because of how dangerous the, you know, drug profile is, whereas (beep) is extremely cardiotoxic with the vasoconstriction, but it's over a long period of time. So you're kind of slowly detrimenting yourself, but yeah, with the (beep) you can just, but it becomes safer when you do it, like the way you're doing the way you do it. - Neither of them are. - At the same time. - Well, yeah, that's arguably the worst thing that you could do. - Rappers make so much money. Why don't you become a rapper and make so much money? - Well, 'cause I'm not black. - There's some white rappers like, - None that are good. - Eminem was pretty good, not anymore, maybe, but. - No, I don't think he was ever good. - He was pretty good back in the day. - Yeah. - But there's some other ones. It doesn't even matter if you're good. I mean, they're successful and they make so much money. - I guess. I mean, I don't really think I could really rap that well. I might have to practice and get back to you. Could be like an undiscovered talent of mine. - But don't you already have any advantage because you're willing to say the N word, especially online, so you could kind of almost sound like a black rapper? - No, 'cause the N word is just like, it doesn't really make or break a rapper. I don't really think it's that necessary. - I think if a black rapper wasn't willing to say the N word, it might not be helpful for him. - Yeah, definitely go against him. - And if a white rapper did it, it's like he's gonna get a lot of virality. - Yeah, but like I've already got that from streaming. And I don't even mean-- - You have a booster right now, imagine if you-- - Well dude, that's the thing. I don't even mean to do it as a way to be an edge lord or anything, it's just casual conversation that occurs. Like I'm not-- - Right. - Same with me. - Yeah, right, exactly. I hate when people say like, can you say it? It feels equivalent to, can you do the thing? - It's like dude, I'm not doing that for you, you know. - What will you do when you become old and your looks are no longer relevant? - Well, hopefully I've able to establish myself with my status and hopefully wealth that maybe I can rely on those metrics as opposed to looks. - Do you think those are generally more important than looks or no? - I would say that looks will probably get you further and the extent of wealth and status that you need to be able to compete with some of the top percentile. People in terms of looks is outrageous, you know. Like even making a million dollars a year, right? Putting yourself into like the top. 0.75% of the United States, you know, that's really not going to allow you to outcompete someone who's like a seven PSL guy who's making fuck all money, you know, and just it's outrageous of a disparity. But they're certainly all important. - I would argue that the people who would, I mean, it just depends on who you're even trying to get with, like it wouldn't matter, the guy with the money can hire a lot of wh****s, no? - Yeah, well, I mean, you don't even really need a lot of money to get certain escorts. It's like usually about 125 bucks an hour. - You knew that off the top right there, that was quick. - Of course, yeah. - Is that something you've done before? - I've never gotten an escort myself, but I do know these numbers from Looks Max. - Oh, this is like a popular escort max? - Yeah, escort maxing is a way to escape in Seldom, but I don't really think that it counts as like, - Yeah, I don't think that counts either. - Yeah, it's like it's cheating. Yeah, escort maxing was a popular one back in the day. - Is Mr. Beast the Antichrist? - Yes. - Go ahead. Mr. Beast is a textbook sociopath. I don't really think that he cares about whatsoever about any of the causes. Once that camera turns off, I think his big ol' smile goes dark in a second. I think it's very predictable that he acts the way he acts based on some of the things I've heard behind closed doors. Just, I don't really think that he's someone who genuinely cares. I think he's a very corporate-minded individual. And people will come on and say, well, he's done a hundred times more for people than you have. But it's like, yeah, but I'm not sitting here pretending like I'm building wells in Africa. Like I'm not pretending to be some virtuous. - Right, why didn't he build those wells in England? - Right, yeah, exactly. I mean, it's turning into the third world again, so he might as well. Yeah, take it back to. - And it's like, you know what, this guy clearly needs food and Mr. Beast has never helped him. So it's like, does Mr. Beast even care about long neck who's the next guest in five seconds? - In five seconds. - Maybe five minutes I guess he's on the way right now. - Oh, wow, good stuff. You really got him fucking lined up. - Yeah, I have long neck coming in right after. - Okay. - Okay, well, thanks for coming on, that shit. I have to film with long neck in five minutes. - Absolutely, well, thank you.