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Matan Debates James Fishback on OF & Iran War

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Matan Debates James Fishback on OF & Iran War

James Fishback, a self-described conservative political outsider, is running for Governor of Florida after Ron DeSantis’s term limit ends. He acknowledges strong polling support for his opponent, Byron Donnells, a Black Congressmember, whose campaign has surged from 2% to 23% in polls. Fishback admits the odds of his own victory are slim, citing the unpredictability of political outcomes. He proposes a bold, youth-focused campaign idea—hosting a 24-hour GTA 6 marathon at the governor’s mansion—though he admits it may seem irresponsible or sensational. Throughout the conversation, he raises several controversial policy ideas, including taxing only fans or targeting people with Alzheimer’s, questioning the ethics of such actions. He also challenges birthright citizenship, discusses the social implications of homelessness and disabled rights, and critiques mainstream politics as out of touch. Fishback expresses skepticism about major figures like Trump and Zoran, while positioning himself as a pragmatic, alternative conservative. His campaign promises include lowering taxes, cutting insurance costs, and increasing public school funding. Despite his humorous and often absurd commentary, the underlying themes revolve around political accessibility, social equity, and the need for bold, unconventional policy action. The conversation ends with a critique of political ignorance, particularly in how voters like "Longneck" misunderstand policy language, highlighting a disconnect between political messaging and public comprehension.

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Well everybody welcome back to the podcast for today's guest. We have James Fishback. Welcome in. Thanks for coming. Nice to meet you. For my co-host today we have my manager via flooring. Welcome in via flooring. So if you can just pull the mic close to you and introduce yourself to anybody who might not know you and all that one. So I am running for Governor of Florida. The elections this year, 2026, Ron DeSantis has been the governor for two terms. He has term limited. He can't serve anymore. And so now there's going to be an election about who's going to succeed him. So what happens now to Ron DeSantis? Is he going to be allowed to stay here? Yeah, he's going to be allowed to stay. But you just said he already is here for long enough. No, no, he's term limited, which means he can't be governor any longer, but he's allowed to live. So now he's getting out of jail. He's term limited. Yeah, he's getting out of prison. Yeah. And were you a supporter of Ron DeSantis? I was. Yeah, I was. Okay. Now you're facing who is it? By Ron Donnells and Byron Donnells or Byron. I don't know which one is it actually? Is that like a play on Tyrone? Because I know I've seen him. He's black. So he's his name by Ron or Byron? It's Byron. Is it really? I've never heard of Byron. It's whatever it's Byron. Okay. I'll call him. I'll call him Byron. I really don't know much about him besides that he's black because you called him a slave. But outside of that, it's what's his political stuff? Is he been in office before? Yeah. He's a member of Congress right now. Okay. And so I've seen the polls. He's definitely leading right now. Do you think those polls are accurate or no? I think they're probably a bit of they're accurate given that we just jumped into the race in the last couple of months. He's been running for a year now, but we've gone from 2% in the polls to 23%. So we're picking up steam very quickly. We're now in second place. What are the odds on those betting markets at 15% for us? Yeah, 15. Yeah. I feel like that's pretty good. I feel like when I was seeing it not so long ago, is it like a half of a percentage? Yeah. So he definitely went up from there. Now, let me ask. Would you bet on me? Bet on you to win. Yeah. With actual money or like is a person? Like what I want to happen or if I think you're going to win. Well, we're talking about betting markets or betting with money. Definitely not. No, I feel like it's unlikely. You know, something similar kind of happened with Zoran. I feel like you're kind of the concerned. But he won. Yeah, but I don't it's like you're going to win the lottery twice in one year. Not to necessarily say that you winning would be good or him winning was good or bad or whatever. But for that to happen, I feel like it's a bit unlikely. You know what I mean? Well, I disagree, but I think it would it would it would be huge for the left to get someone like Zoran. And I think the right to get our vision for the campaign. Yeah. How would having a 24 hour GTA 6 marathon in the governor's mansion actually help anybody? Yeah. That just seems like the type of seeing an out of touch politician would say to sound cool with young people. So I'm a big GTA guy. Actually, I grew up playing GTA sent on dress GTA Vice City. I don't think it helps playing a game where you beat up. I don't think it helps playing a game where you beat up hoops and killed the police. Right. Then why would you invite a bunch of kids to play an official political house? Because it's fun. But I the reason why is because I think it's an incentive. It's like, hey, if you do really well on the test, if you do really well in the honor role, if you get straight A's, you can come to the governor's mansion and place some GTA 6. I want I want to be fun. That would kind of be a punishment, right? If when that game comes out, everybody's been waiting for so long now you have to get good grades. And now you have to play it in some political guy's house. You can't even just relax at home in play. So you can play at home, but you're a big fan of GTA. A big plan. Yeah. You're a big plan. A big yeah. What a plan. A plan is a Colombian dessert. Okay. So what do you mean you're a big plan? I don't understand. Well, I'm not a Colombian dessert. I'm oh, I'm fluffy and I'm sweet. But did you mean to say that or you meant to say a big thing? I meant to say big thing. So why did you say flat? Because I'm sleep deprived. Okay. Now, so you again, you said you're a big GTA 5 fan as well or no? No, I liked, I liked San Andreas and I liked vice versa. You even know the character names? CJ. No, in GTA 5. I didn't place a J5. CJ5. CJ, GTA 5. So you don't even know the, I mean, it's like, what is it? The second, third best selling game of all time. You don't even know the, the names of the characters of the sequel game coming out, but you're inviting them to play your house. You don't understand. Or you do understand how that could come off as a little bit grifty. It could come off a little grifty, but I'm a, I'm a GTA San Andreas guy vice city guy. Okay. I prefer playing the black characters, which is, it felt more authentic. Right. Yeah, I see what you're saying. There's a black character in GTA 5. I was there. It's not CJ though, from GTA San Andreas, isn't it? It's not CJ. Do you know his name in GTA 5 or no? No. Is it by Ron? It's not. It's Franklin. You never heard of Franklin. Franklin, it's heard, I've heard of, but not Franklin. Michael and Trevor, those are the three main ones. No, I was, I was too busy in college during, when GTA 5 came outside. Okay. So maybe that's not really a great idea, the whole, well, I know. I think six is good because remember six takes place in Miami. Six is back in Vice City. So I think there's something cool about the Florida governor for a game. It's based in Florida. How many video games are based in Florida? Not that many. All dirty modern warfare too is not based in Florida. No, I don't think it was. Where was it based in like Iraq? I think Iraq or like Afghanistan, one of those. I was only mentioning that because I haven't heard other politicians go down that route. It's actually something I kind of noticed. We saw Ron, but I feel like with him because he's a leftist, things are more confined. Sure. He probably has more people either telling him what to say or influencing it, where he wouldn't say something that out of touch. Maybe for the good or the bad of it, but I feel like anybody knows that kind of is like not something that's a real aspiration or a cool thing to play a video game with the governor's mansion. Well, one of the things I really enjoyed about GTA San Andreas was the open-world aspect of it. Where you could literally. I mean, you could obviously play the story of the game, which is cool, but you could just literally roam for hours. But that's why you didn't play GTA 5 because there was no open-world aspect. Perhaps. But I like GTA San Andreas. It's like literally, I would just say with my middle school friends and we would just tilt three or four o'clock in the morning, just roam and just go car-jacked people and beat homes with the giant dumb stuff. It was fun, actually. No, yeah. And so maybe that's actually a good idea because since GTA 6 takes place in Florida, then you get to encourage that type of behavior in your own city that you're governing. Well, if it's Sophie Reign maybe, but everyone else, I think, is probably all of us. That's that old f****** girl. Yes. What specific to her? What does she do? Well, she is the richest only fans girl. She's based in Florida. She's number one. She's number one. How do they do that metric? Is that like public? Uh, well, that's what she says, which I probably believe her on that and that alone. I don't believe anything else if she says about her body count or whatever, but she says she's made a hundred million dollars, so we're going to tax her. We're going to tax her. Yeah, that's unfortunate. I'm not a, I'm not a big fan of f******. Have you ever been on it? No, I haven't. I'm actually a big criticizer of it. A hundred million dollars is a ton of money. That's like professional athlete level, right? Correct. And you're going to tax them. They're not already being taxed. Well, they're being taxed normally, but I think we have to take it a step further. If you want to discourage and deter only fans, you have to tax it at such a high rate that nobody wants to do it anymore. And they go to something dignified, like open a store, become a doctor. Yeah, but you have to understand that these people a lot of the time they're re*****ed, so you can't expect them to become a doctor. Well, they can. I didn't mean I'm encouraging them to go down the route of f******. That means I'm just saying that the more realistic thing if you want to not sound like a politician, is just accept the fact that instead they'll become homeless, which is better, but that's the truth. Well, yes, some of them clearly are lost, but I think they're better off doing things. You know, we certainly had people beforehand who were not as smart and they found something dignified to do that wasn't selling their body online. And what would be the first thing you would do if you turned into a lobster? Well, I'm allergic to lobsters, so I would probably just die instantly, because I would. Well, that's completely unrelated. I mean, I doubt there's any lobsters, you know. But if I turned into one, but what I carry over my personality or my false. You carry over your personality to an extent that a lobster's brain can acquire, which is probably not so low that it's unquantifiable, because there's no conscious thought inside of a lobster. Right. Do you understand what I said? I did. Okay, I'm not one of the old f*** girls. Epic own. Feast bump on that epic own. I don't know. What would I do if I were a lobster? Yeah, you look like a lobster kind of the whole red thing. I don't know. No idea. It was actually kind of a tree question. That's why I organized or made that whole thing clear about the brain. Now working, you probably just have to eat something. You wouldn't even really have a choice about it. Oh, that's true. Because you're so. I mean, you're a lobster. You're so lobster, I don't have very much agency, yeah. Yeah. He's been reported that your campaign has raised over $950. Will you be using these funds to buy an Xbox? I don't think we could afford an Xbox at 9.50 with. You could get an Xbox in a couple of games, actually. What game should I get? Well, I mean, you seem like a big GTA guy. You could get GTA, maybe a couple months of game pass. Okay. More than a couple months, you could get a couple of years, actually. Well, I want to just say that the 9.50 is incorrect. That's not an accurate reporting. It's not accurate. We just went to Erroin. We spent $30 on the Haley Bieber, so it's, you know, it's 9.20 now. Right, so that's why you were saying actually that you might not be able to afford an Xbox. But isn't that kind of fraud? You're not allowed to just buy drinks for random members of your team. But how many do we get? No, it was actually a gift. Okay. From Erroin? From Erroin? No, no, from Erroin? No. Erroin. Oh, Erroin. No, the last place we were at, they got them for us. There were some semblance of hospitality there. You didn't give us anything. There's just Gatorade bottles and dirty socks all over the studio. Yeah, so if not an Xbox, then what would it be? Because with 950, it's kind of a limited range. 950, how would I spend, this is the only 950 I could have, I would probably, I would probably wrap a car for 950. $150 like if that's the only money we could spend like wrap the car and then just drive it around Are you related to Duke Fishron? No, no, no, you know who Duke Fishron is. No, so how do you know you're not related? Never heard it before so I can't imagine a similar name you last name is James fishron fishback fishback Yes, still similar my mistake How do you defeat him at what point do you usually defeat Duke Fishron because that's kind of he's not You know the game is kind of linear. It's not linear, but it's linear in the sense where you have to defeat bosses in a main Order, but he's kind of one of the side. I mean, it's kind of like we need to be where you don't have to beat him What game is this Terraria, you didn't know that no, I thought you were inside the culture in the gaming stuff What game is this? Terraria, he's the fish monster that you summon after you collect the in check though Whatever worm is called from the mushroom biome After defeating I think the mechanical bosses or after planterra maybe it's one of those then it gets unlocked the That worm starts appearing and then you can summon him by fishing in the ocean Maybe we'll play that game in the governor's mansion. Yeah, daughter would support because that would be cultural that wouldn't just be getting on the hype train Would an old person with Alzheimer's be the best type of person to steal from since they wouldn't remember what happened What are you doing my charger? I didn't give it to you. Who the hell are you anyway? Are you the ones in these messages to my head? I Can't fly. I don't know if you can. Can you hear me? What are you doing later tonight? Can I take it What was that You're not James fish back Can you introduce yourself? Did you turn James fish back into that statue? I have no clue Oh Anyways, let's get back into the questions. What an old person with Alzheimer's be the best type of person to steal from since they wouldn't even remember what happened Stealing is bad But if you assume that it weren't not only do you not have to assume that stealing is in bad in this scenario Not only does it because the person with Alzheimer's doesn't remember the experience of getting stolen from they probably don't even remember what got stolen So does it really is it really a bad thing is I'm gonna remember what I have they're not gonna remember what they lost Well, it's definitely a bad thing because if you stole their whatever their medicine and they Okay, we have to take it the next day. I wasn't that you don't have to give me hyperbole here You're stealing their medicine. I'm talking about stealing their watches and their valuables Well, but if they can't tell the time tomorrow, then that it sets their entire circadian rhythm Okay, and let's say they tell the time right now You think they're gonna remember the time in 30 seconds. They have Alzheimer's. They're just gonna keep telling the time Interesting they might forget how to read a clock Fair enough it's a good argument interesting one So maybe that should be legalized maybe we'll work on that in Florida and how do you think that would get passed? How does a log get passed like that? Well, it goes to the state house and the state senate and then the governor would sign it into law and you think a lot like that would be likely to get passed or no I can't imagine why despite my argument despite your argument. I think that Most people would say that stealing from people with Alzheimer's is not then I would like them to rebuttal what I just said and I just say no Because I want to I will well listen It doesn't seem like you're the one saying no, you said you'd pass it in or try to get it done with Will you support the law to give everybody in Florida polio? No, I don't think so. I think it's probably pretty bad. Why? It it paralyzes you you can't you can't walk but then you get to one of those cool boxes that you get to sleep inside And you can never move again and you get to live in the cool box. Well, that would solve the housing affordability crisis I wouldn't really consider that a house While you would still live in it. I don't wouldn't consider that a home. There's nobody else back here. Are you looking for somebody? Did that throw you off a little bit just a tan nobody's gonna come out of the ceiling I don't have a clue He's trying to communicate with you and and what language Probably some form of English right he put in exclamation or a question mark whatever it was Let's move on Could somebody argue they're actually not gay even if they sleep with a man by entirely changing the definition of the word gay Until it means something completely different to the point where they would have to be characterized by that new word Sure, but it still wouldn't change the fact that they're attracted to men It would change the fact that they're attracted to men if then you also did that to attracted oh It wouldn't change the fact that they had sex with men. It could if you change what that means to Well, it wouldn't change the fact that it happened That's correct, but what happened? Good question you may not be able to describe it. We know it happened though. I'm asking you is this an experience you've had S**t with a man. No, okay But to me this means not having inner course with a man Who did you just get a call from who was that Mike Pence? Okay, so let's keep it down. That's probably an important call, okay? 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Thank you to Squarespace for sponsoring today's episode If somebody American if both of their parents are Nigerian, but they came here on vacation had birth than left no But they were born here. They were born here But they were the parents were not legally allowed to be here so they can't be American So what happens to the kid in that case? They would have to go back to Nigeria So despite the kid being born here they should be sent back to Nigeria Well the parents weren't legally here so yeah, let's say they were on vacation Well, I said vacation so I don't know if that's well I mean, yeah, technically well, I should when I say legal I would I mean as a permanent legal status that is okay They are a green card. They're a naturalized citizen or they're a US-born citizen because that's not the case You you wouldn't become a citizen now. I heard I don't know if it's true I got past but I heard Trump got rid of birthright citizenship. He's trying to it's going for this Supreme Court right now I support that and you're on board with that as well. Yeah, I'm on board with getting ready to prepare citizenship Let me ask you what do you think about Trump because he's kind of become controversial even with conservatives and you're kind of the new breed of conservatives where I feel like it's a little bit less controlled. You say more so what you want and That type of conservative doesn't really like Trump. So what what's your take on it? My take is I Really like the Trump of 2016. Okay against foreign wars against Increasing the national debt so not a lot like what we've seen in the last couple of months now Did you vote for him? I did you did vote for him. Yeah Okay, and so would you vote for him again? No, not if it's gonna look like the last couple couple of months now and let me ask you this, who would you vote for in an actual election? Gavin Newsom or J.D. Vance? Uh, that'd be, it would have to depend on what the policies are. I mean, if they're, if they're both going to be pro-Israel and pro-sending more of our money over to foreign countries, it seems like that's the position of both of them unfortunate. So then I'm not interested in voting. You would, you would just stay out of this. I would probably abstain in that election. Okay, but let's say you had to vote. I feel like that's, if I had to vote, answer it's still a cop out because I'm asking you as a political person. Not as like what I would do. I would bite my tongue and vote for J.D. Vance. Okay. What does he have over? News, I mean, that for you. Probably the pro-life position, not the J.D. Vance, the most pro-life guy, but he's definitely not pro-life. Well, he's not the most pro-life, but he's definitely more pro-life than Gavin Newsom is. Yeah, that makes sense. I feel like, I don't know if Gavin Newsom does he even have any conservative positions, probably not. No, not really. But, but I care about most, my big issue is is. Technically, letting homeless people eat each other, which is pretty cool and funny and epic. Not very pro-life, though. It's not pro-life, but not for the life of the person being eaten. I suppose for the life of the person who was eating because they have food now. Yeah, but I would actually make that an abortion similar argument and say that that's not a life to me. The homeless? A homeless who's vulnerable to being eaten or a homeless that's eating other homeless. Neither of those are lifestyle. That wouldn't be murdered you. No, not at all. Interesting. That's nature. Interesting. Oh, one of those me. Is that you? I don't know. You recently lost a lawsuit and decided you didn't have to pay your lawyer. How much are you going to have to pay your next lawyer to defend you against him and then the next one when you lose again? We're just going to keep playing the game where we get one to look at the next one. Get one. You lose and you don't pay him. Well, listen, but let me ask you, if we went to freaking, if we went to five guys and you ordered a double cheeseburger and they gave you just two buns without any cheese or any burger, would you pay them? Five guys is not a lawyer. They have lawyers. That thing in itself, the person not a lawyer. I know, but that's the point. It's called an analogy. I know. But this analogy doesn't work. What analogy would work then? A lawyer to a lawyer and in that case, he doesn't make any sense. Now, listen, I actually like that move. I respect it because it's so unbelievable and crazy that it's like, how did I not think of that? But I read that in the state of Florida, because I don't know, maybe if your argument turns into something where you said, I signed with the guy that he only gets paid. If he wins, you can't even do that in Florida. So you're just outright not paying him. It's not even an argument that he agreed to this. Uh, Chad does what Chad wants. But you're not Chad. No, but I'm inspired by. But that doesn't work. That's not how that works. I don't know how much you're into looks, but you cannot do Chad moves if you're not Chad. Here's what I know. I didn't pay him. But he's going to sue you. Is he already suing you? He hasn't suing me yet. Assuming he sues you. Are you aware that you're for sure going to lose? Unless he's a [bleep] lawyer. I don't know what's his deal, but I mean, you know that obviously, technically, you have to pay him. Yes. Uh, maybe one day. Maybe one day? Let's stop my GTA 6 acquisition. Acquisition? Yeah. What do you mean, acquisition? Buying. Buying GTA 6? Yeah. Oh, just the game for 70 bucks. Yeah, not like acquiring rockstar or anything. Hmm. Interesting. Well, let me ask you. Should I buy GTA 6 or should I pay my lawyer back? Does that answer your question? I think so. Personally, well, that's his take on it. My opinion, I think you should probably pay your lawyer back. And I'm not giving you that as some ethical advice that-- Wait, is this legal advice you're charging me for at this right now? No, because I don't really care about lawyers. You know, a lot of-- I know. Well, how does a lawyer charge $150,000 for a couple months of work? It doesn't make any sense. That's a rip off. Well, mainly I just don't care about lawyers because I think a lot of them are not doing what they think is right. They're just doing it for money. In which case, I don't really feel bad if they get money stolen from them. But that doesn't stop the fact that you'll be made to give that lawyer money. Should he sue you or you'll go to jail? Well, I don't have debtors' prison in America, so I'm not going to jail. So what would happen exactly? That's an interesting point. They would repossess my PS5. They-- yeah. They wouldn't have much to repossess if you only have $950. $9.30, remember the drink? You said it was $30, so it would actually be $9.20. Oh. And how many did you buy? You bought four of them? I played the fifth. It would actually be $8.30. $8.30 is better than nothing, though. True. Following up on the last one, if you lose the governor's election, will you be reimbursing all your donors? It's a good question. That would assume that I was getting paid for running, which I'm not. It's covering-- But they donated for you to win, not lose. It's like going to five guys and you order a burger and you don't give you a buy or cheese or lettuce or anything. That's a fair point. So will you be giving them their money back? I'm going to win, so they're not going to worry about that. Yeah, but let's-- like, I'm not even going to say, let's talk for real, like you're for sure going to lose. Maybe you have a chance. If it's 15%, if you lose, though, what will you be doing? I'm going to win. If you lose, what will-- come on, give me a real answer. Don't do that. That's like-- don't hide out of the question. Well, we're not going to be reimbursing because we had to pay our staff, right? So maybe the lawyer had to pay his staff. Did you ever think about that one? Fishburg, fishron? Fishstein. Fishstein, did you ever consider that? Maybe the lawyer isn't just working by himself. Tough luck. But then what would-- what's to say, you wouldn't do that to your donors? You don't feel bad for the donors? I think so. I get a tough luck to the lawyer. Fuck the lawyer. I agree. What about the donors? Can't say fuck them. We're going to win. There's a cop out. I got you there. That's fine. I'll take it out once in a while. Do you think disabled people should have the same rights as everybody else, despite the fact they cannot contribute to society at all? I-- well, I think they should have the same rights and I think they do, in fact, contribute to society. How do they contribute to society? And I'm not looking for an argument like somebody says dogs contribute to society because they make you happy because they look funny. Well, there's a lot of-- They can't put their tongue in their mouth. There's a lot of disabled folks out there who work at grocery stores who've started great companies. And so just-- I'm not talking about the one guy who, you know, he has lost a toe. I'm talking about a real disabled. Yeah. I believe it is. Well, I think-- look, if you-- I think if you're pro-life, you believe it every life is worth equal and you have to protect that dignity. But that's just denying the basic instincts that I'm paying taxes to a guy who's not contributing to taxes because he can't even move his eyeballs. We're talking to the guy who hasn't paid his lawyer, so I'm not contributing either. Well, you're not contributing to the lawyer. And I guess that would probably imply that you're the type of guy to not pay your taxes. However, I won't just assume that I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. The lawyer is not a government entity. Correct. So that's a completely different thing. It's kind of like how that five guy sings what worked earlier when I did it. Correct. Are you related to Duke Fishron? No. Okay. You know, I asked that one already. Yeah. Oh, shit. Okay, let's continue, Mr. Fishron. Yeah, go ahead. Will you enforce mandatory double jaw surgery for all sub-threes? Only if clav'a proves. Okay. So if you win, you're going to give him a position in the government. Yes. And what type of position would that be? Director of looks-maxing. He's got a new thing. It's kind of like gold. Like gold? Yeah, it's like that. And what do you think about Elon? That's kind of an interesting follow-up. I like Elon. I mean, I don't agree with him on everything, but I like Elon. I have a Tesla. So? You have a Tesla. They're good cars, despite. You know, he's an interesting guy. You know, in some ways, he reminds me of you kind of like with the video game stuff. Did you ever hear what he did with his video game stuff? No. Well, he claimed he was one of the best Diablo players in the world. But it turns out he was paying a Chinese guy. When did I claim to be a good video gamer? No, I'm saying it's just, it's similar. He was grifting being a good player, grifting caring about GTA. It's the same thing. Yeah, but- Of course, because he's autistic to the point where if I told that to him, he would go, no, it's not true. Even though everybody knows it is. Whereas when I told you about the GTA, I think you're able to play around with it a little bit. Yeah, but just- So just because you haven't played GTA 5 doesn't mean that you don't care about GTA. Not necessarily. I just- Come on. I just know that you said that to sound cool. I just thought it didn't sound cool. Of course, I said it to sound cool. I mean, why would I- Why would I say it? That's larping. That's not- It's not larping. Okay, so you said something to sound cool, not because you thought it's cool. What do you think that is, my friend? No. Mr. Fish. Larping is- You've never played GPA. GPA? I have not played GPA. Have you? Mm-hmm. You've never played GTA. You've never played video games. And you're all of a sudden like, guys, let's go play some GTA together. That's not cool. That's larping. Well, I haven't played GTA, and I'm not a flan, so I don't know what to say. Thank you. How to cremate their customers if they die in the restaurant? I'm not opposed to that, actually. Why? Well, I think it's a great place to source the meat for the new big arch sandwich. The big arch? Why, what's that specifically? I haven't heard of that. That's not so if you're right. I'm talking about the new sandwich. No, I know. I got that. It's a double, double quarter pounder. Why do you mention that one specifically? Can I talk? You think you're trying to reach his non-available? At the tunnel, please record your message. When you have finished recording, you may hang out. I don't know. I'm in love. So you do speak English? If you do become the governor of Florida, would you consider introducing a bill that lets homeless people live inside government buildings? No. Why? Because we don't want anyone living inside of government buildings that are not homeless people. Okay, but government buildings, the government itself is for the people, right? You're for the people, right? I'm for the people. Okay, so it's for the people. Most people have a homeless people and need someone to stay in Florida. They're sander storms. These people are getting struck by lightning and then they're turning into zombies worse than they already were. So why isn't that a good solution? Well, that it is a good solution to make sure that they have access to indoor facilities if there's storms or cold fronts, but it cannot be a government courthouse. Why? It can't be the governor's mansion. We're playing GTA 6. Okay, but not the governor's mansion because there's already people playing GTA, a GPA like Flan or whatever you call it, or we're in GPA and we're, we're, we're carjacking someone for the flam. The flam, you change it again, you can't keep changing it. You have to be consistent with thinking of spam now. You don't even know what you're thinking about. I would say, okay, anyway, those seriously, what were we saying? Let me ask you this is how, I don't know what the exact stats are. Homeless in Florida. Big issue like it is in LA, New York or no. Big issue. So what are you going to do to help? I'm going to remove them from the streets using the Florida National Guard. You're going to remove them. Something like that or no? No, we're not going to shoot them. When did I say shoot homeless people, that's disgusting. What were you doing? I was giving them meals. I was having one of those launchers. I was shooting burgers at them. You were aiming? Did I look like I was going like this? Did I have, no, I wasn't doing anything like that. Is that what a noise a gun makes? Yeah, that's the noise a gun makes. Yeah. I know from playing GTA PAM. GTA PAM? You changing it again? Are you crazy? Is it on purpose this time? Yeah, that was on purpose. No, it wasn't. I'm just retarded. Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? SpongeBob. That's correct. If your parents ever gave you money, wanting that mean you're funded by Jews? It's a good point. They don't give me money, so I don't have that problem. They've given you money before. I mean, it's hard to have happened at some point. My mom paid for it's polly last weekend, yeah. So I was technically funded by Jews. Is that how that would work for you? I don't know the exact government details about it though. But the campaign requirements. What do you think of Jewish? Well, based off how you answered that question, yes. Okay. Are you? I am not Jewish. Are you doing the same like play as me? No, I'm not Jewish. You're not Jewish. Yeah. You're Colombian? I'm American. But where does your roots go back to? My father's side, Germany, my mother's side, Colombia. Okay. Did she pull off that Nigerian thing that I mentioned earlier? No, no, no. I read somewhere, but maybe it was false in tell. No, no. She's not illegal. Okay. Well, neither were they. She was not here. She was not here on travel visa. But you said your father, where was he? He's German? Well, I mean, going all the way back to the 1700s, yeah. Oh, but he's family has been in America for a long time now. A long time. How many generations back? A little longer than Pocahons. I don't count her as American, and I don't count what she lived in as America. So I don't think that's a reasonable answer. 1760s. Okay. So he was one of the first, not my dad, but his, and these people that were the ancestors. All right. Okay. Would it be fair to say you're the conservative version of Zora and Mamdani? Yeah. If you frame it as conservative, I think that we're both in our early 30s. We've, we're both have very different ideas that depart from the traditional Republican Democrat party. And I think like Zora and we're going to win and pull off his stunning upset. So yeah, I think it's a compliment. Now, do you like him? What's your take on him? I absolutely don't like a lot of his policies, but I think that he's probably a pretty cool guy. But what does that mean? I feel like that's kind of contradictory, especially for a politician to say. Well, I would rather hang out with him than by Ron Donald's for five hours. What is this thing with by Ron Donald's? I don't know anything about him. What has he done specifically? I mean, I hadn't heard of him before your, your stuff, because I don't live in Florida, so I just didn't know anything about the guy. Yeah. And Doris by Donald Trump, he's, there's four people in the race season first, I'm in second. He's, uh, he's a pretty bad dude. What has he done? Nothing. That's the whole point. Okay. He's been in Congress for five years. He has absolutely nothing to show for it. I wouldn't say that means he's a bad dude. Maybe that means he's just kind of a, uh, a useless fool if that's the case, but I would say useless slave, but yeah, slave because he's black, no, because he's a slave. He's like a black joke, maybe, but that's irrelevant. He's also, he's just a slave. Yeah, but you don't just say things like that about me. I'm just inquiring from where that's pretty interesting. You would say that about your political opponent. I mean, that it is kind of like Zora on the complete other end. Interesting. Do you think Zoraan would call, he's a pony slaves? Probably not. He's not an edgy enough. Yeah. Is that you shooting a homeless person? Looks like a woman. What'd she do? Now let me ask you this, with only four months left before the election, what are your closing words to people idiots like Longneck who still unfortunately have the right to vote? My closing argument is this, no, but specifically to people like Longneck. Don people. Who's Longneck? He's my next guest in a couple minutes, but he's an idiot. But in America, if you're an idiot, you still get to vote. My closing argument to Longneck is probably not even a Florida resident, as I'm fighting for a Florida that we can all afford. And how will you get that done? It's a lot we have to do. We have to lower auto insurance, health insurance, property insurance, eliminate property taxes, increase funding for public schools, raise teacher pay, police pay, first responder pay. Can I stop and criticize something you said? Sure. It's probably the whole thing. Longneck doesn't understand what any of those words mean. He understands words like food and Gucci Barry and white neck. So Gucci Barry? That's one of his friends, along with white neck. So when you're saying I'm going to remove property taxes, he doesn't understand these things. So we're going to give him more food for cheaper. He doesn't know what cheaper means. He just understands food. He doesn't know what more means. Okay. Food. He doesn't know if you're saying that in a good way or a bad way. He doesn't understand it. That's assuming he understands like. Is he blind? He's not blind, but blind in the sense that he doesn't really have an understanding of what gestures are or human interactions, because he isn't IQ of six. Does he know what kind of food does he like? I don't know actually. He weighs about 30 pounds. Is he human? Unfortunately. Okay, well, thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. I have to interview long neck and he obviously has an important meeting with Mike Pence. Good luck with that.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. James Fishback is running for Governor of Florida, succeeding term-limited Governor Ron DeSantis, and is currently in second place in the polls with strong momentum.
  2. He believes Byron Donnells, a Black member of Congress, is gaining traction in the race, citing rapid polling growth and strong betting market odds of 15%.
  3. Fishback expresses skepticism about winning the election, calling it highly unlikely despite his campaign’s energy, and notes past political surprises like Zoran’s upset.
  4. He proposes a controversial campaign idea—hosting a 24-hour GTA 6 marathon at the governor’s mansion—to engage youth, though he acknowledges it may appear out of touch or inappropriate.
  5. He criticizes policies that target only fans or enable homelessness, arguing that such measures ignore real social needs and dignity.
  6. He questions the ethics of stealing from people with Alzheimer’s, noting the harm to their health and daily functioning despite their memory loss.
  7. He challenges the idea of birthright citizenship, suggesting that children born in the U.S. to undocumented parents may be sent back to Nigeria.
  8. Fishback identifies as a conservative alternative to traditional politics, aligning with figures like Zora and J.D. Vance on pro-life and fiscal issues, while criticizing mainstream political figures for being out of touch.

Summary:

James Fishback, a self-described conservative political outsider, is running for Governor of Florida after Ron DeSantis’s term limit ends. He acknowledges strong polling support for his opponent, Byron Donnells, a Black Congressmember, whose campaign has surged from 2% to 23% in polls. Fishback admits the odds of his own victory are slim, citing the unpredictability of political outcomes.

He proposes a bold, youth-focused campaign idea—hosting a 24-hour GTA 6 marathon at the governor’s mansion—though he admits it may seem irresponsible or sensational. Throughout the conversation, he raises several controversial policy ideas, including taxing only fans or targeting people with Alzheimer’s, questioning the ethics of such actions. He also challenges birthright citizenship, discusses the social implications of homelessness and disabled rights, and critiques mainstream politics as out of touch.

Fishback expresses skepticism about major figures like Trump and Zoran, while positioning himself as a pragmatic, alternative conservative. His campaign promises include lowering taxes, cutting insurance costs, and increasing public school funding. Despite his humorous and often absurd commentary, the underlying themes revolve around political accessibility, social equity, and the need for bold, unconventional policy action.

The conversation ends with a critique of political ignorance, particularly in how voters like "Longneck" misunderstand policy language, highlighting a disconnect between political messaging and public comprehension.

FAQs

James Fishback is running against Byron Donnells, a Black member of Congress who has been gaining traction in the polls and is currently leading the race.

Polls show a significant increase in support for Byron Donnells, rising from 2% to 23% in a short period, indicating strong growth in his campaign's momentum.

James Fishback acknowledges Byron Donnells' strong polling and betting market odds of 15%, but expresses skepticism about the likelihood of such a large surge being sustained.

He suggests hosting a 24-hour GTA 6 marathon at the governor's mansion as a fun incentive for students to achieve high academic performance, such as straight A's.

Yes, he believes that high taxes on only fans could discourage this activity and encourage people to pursue more 'dignified' careers, though he acknowledges some may still be affected.

He does not support it, stating that government buildings should not be used for homeless people, though he acknowledges that shelter during storms could be a valid need.

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