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Matan Confronts Jillian Michaels For Being a G*y Zionist

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Matan Confronts Jillian Michaels For Being a G*y Zionist

Jillian Michaels, renowned from "The Biggest Loser," transitions from fitness fame to a career in health policy and political commentary. In this interview, she presents a nuanced, self-reflective perspective on current social and political issues, identifying as a 90s liberal grounded in common sense. She challenges simplistic accusations of racism or extremism, arguing that people should apply consistent moral standards globally—such as in Israel-Palestine—rather than selectively condemning one side. She defends free speech, critiques systemic inequities, and emphasizes personal responsibility in health and society. Though she makes bold statements, she often does so with irony and self-awareness, highlighting contradictions in public discourse. The conversation also touches on controversial topics like AI in schools, mental health, and political bias, where she advocates for empathy, balance, and real-world context. Despite the tone of satire and humor, her views reflect a deep engagement with societal values, identity, and accountability—making her a complex and often polarizing presence in today’s political and cultural debates.

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Hello everybody, welcome back to the podcast for today's guest. We have Jillian Michaels. We're coming thanks for having me. Thanks for coming, okay, yeah, today's co-host we have Mike. We'll come in Mike. So can you pull the mic closer to you and then introduce yourself. Yeah, for anybody who might not know you and all. Okay, got it. My name is Jillian Michaels. Um, it's all like out for now. And what are people maybe know you from things like that? Let's see, okay, they know me from a boy afraid to put this out here with you from a reality show called the biggest loser. It's right. And fitness. It's not that funny. You're laughing because I know I'm afraid of what's coming. Why that? You know, but could you be? When it comes this way, could you be more creative than bigger loser or like biggest loser? What do you mean? Well, it's just, you know, whenever I take shit from people, it tends to be. Oh, who's the biggest loser? And it just I, if we're going down there, they're saying now you're the biggest loser. Yeah, yeah, and I would just I would just appreciate a little. Why is that because you don't have a TV show anymore and you're podcasting with Dave Smith? That could be. I think that could be. That's a good representation. Not the biggest loser, but on the way there. But I wasn't going to say that you said it's okay. I like halfway loser. Really? It's actually you could say the biggest. No, I said, some people are at the lowest level. They're not really the, they're the biggest loser, but they didn't experience a decline. I thought we discussed though innovating on it. I wasn't even going to say it until you brought it up. There's no universe. I was going to get through this interview without it coming out. I wasn't planning on it. I feel like you wanted me to say that. No, I just is trying to get ahead of it. But what do you do nowadays? It's your show has been canceled. I still work in health. So I work in health and policy. I'm writing a book about that that's coming out later on this year. You're more involved with politics now. A little bit. Yeah. The intersection between health and politics. And what type of lunatic would get their political opinions from an old lesbian Zionist? Apparently not many people, which is why I'm forecasting with Dave Smith, I guess. Right. But people get their political opinions from him for better or worse, but from you. Although there may not be many, the ones that there are around, they must be really crazy, right? Or just very clueless old guys. They know our older, older guys actually. What are some political opinions that you hold? Gosh, I would say here's the parting Gen Z line. Common sense. Yeah, that doesn't really say anything at all. No, no. Come on. Here's what it should say. What do I mean? Like anti-trans? It means no sex changes for children. Okay. I feel like that's. It's common sense. I feel like most people agree with that. Okay, common sense. Yeah. I'm on the 80's side of the 80/20 issues. Are you against me killing your dog over there? I mean that would be terrible. That's common sense, but I feel like we already know that's so there's no reason to go over it. 80's side of the 80/20 issues. I'm a 90's liberal. A 90's liberal. Do you support Trump still? I think Trump was the lesser of evils. But do you still support him? I support him on some of the things he does. So you're not exactly a 90's liberal. What do you mean? Of course I am. Gen Z is a 90's liberal. Gavards a 90's liberal. Yeah, they're all supporting him. Well, not all. Many? So a lot? Quite a few. Well, listen, I still support him. I think he's the great white hope. But I don't think most conservatives still do let alone 90's liberals, which you're arguing are really just kind of in the middle now. I don't think the technically we're moderates, but now we we wear the brand of racist and transphobic mostly. You're saying that's what you're called. That's pretty much where I'm at, I guess. And what racist things? What up racist opinions do you hold? I'm not totally sure. All I know is I have been branded with the. I read online that you stole a black child. I did steal a black child. And here's what's so funny. I still order to be a house slave, apparently. But you know what's really difficult. She's too stupid to get a two year old to do chores. Just a bad idea. Could have just got a smart or a housekeeper. Yeah. I learned the hard way though. Now I've got this mouth to feed. Nobody does chores around the house, but me. And she's disrespectful. She talks back. No, she's actually a great kid. So, so you are sort of a 90's liberal. You think gay people should be allowed to adopt children? I guess so. Because me and some others think it really should cap out of dogs. Even if you kept that's I understand your position. That's okay. You're allowed to have it. That doesn't feel disrespectful to you. It doesn't feel disrespectful to me. It feels like a difference of opinion that's often based in a religious background to be fair. I'm not I'm not religious. So just take a case. What do you mean? Well, if you're not religious, what do you think it shouldn't have kids or adopt kids? We can give them the black ones. Just the black ones. Yeah. That's good because most other international companies are international countries are closed to international adoption now. You know what I've noticed about you. You can pick up a black one here and there. You know what I noticed about you in just these few minutes. You have a lot of self-respect and integrity. You will stand up to those who say nasty things about the things that make you what you are. You'll stand up and shut them down quickly. You won't let them say it to your face. They say it to my face. Does that make me? Are you disappointed in me? What do you mean? They'll say it to my face. Who says it? They know. What do you mean? Well, they'll say to you know the people who think those things. They will they will on occasion say it to your face. What did they say? You're a white nationalist. Like that. You just what I said completely went over your head. Obviously I wasn't talking about. No. People calling you a white nationalist. Is that what people call you? The occasional progressive leftist. Yes. Why? There must be a reason. People say that to me, but I know why. I think you're a white nationalist. Why are you a white nationalist? Because I think we should get rid of the black people and all the other ones. The Mexicans, the Jews, Stalin, so forth. Aren't you white-ish? Ashkenazis are. So farting genes are not necessarily, but the Ashkenazis are pretty white. They're skinny white, but their brains are not. But why do people call you a white nationalist? I don't know. I guess because I don't think white people have a root of all evil probably. It seems to be the consensus. If you don't think white people are the root of all evil, you are in fact a white nationalist. I suppose you don't know that. It's like I'm talking to a robot. I don't think I've ever met somebody who does these talking points in real life. What do you mean? It's like why do people call you a white nationalist? Because I have common sense. You would think that this doesn't actually exist. How do you answer it? You did answer it. We get rid of the, yeah. How would I answer it? I don't even want to put that soundbite out there. If I even repeat that. It's good, God. Well, I know you're obviously not a white nationalist. If that's all you're saying. I don't know what other things you might say. But I'm just saying I've never met somebody in real life who just uses the most baseline talking points ever. I mean, you know, I'm being respectful. What do we mean? What do we mean? Who are you being respectful to? I'm being respectful of your show. I'm trying to keep it professional in the open up. Right. Do you think public schools should implement AI-driven robots to sit in the back of the class and scream to replace the **** kids once they are removed by eugenics? No. Why? Well, because why replace one disruption with another? You need some disruption. Otherwise, people will get tired of fall asleep in class. They have their phones secretly in them. Yeah, but you don't want to encourage that. But you want to encourage a screaming robot? A screaming **** robot made to mimic a human will wake you up. Have you ever been in class when there's one of those kids around? Everybody laughs a little bit. No. I'm 100,000 years old. Really? Well, I mean, they must have had them back then too. No. What do you mean no? I don't know. No. You didn't have every **** screamers? I mean, it's not like these are a new type of people. They've always been around. I think maybe there would have been special classes for that. There's still special classes, but sometimes they let them through. They didn't let them throw in my in my grades. Then you'll have to take my advice on it. They should implement them once they're done. I will take it. I will definitely put that into consideration. Make the recommendation to the local school board. Why do we have two years and not three? I don't know. When you bring it up that way, I don't even know why we need two. Why wouldn't one just go, well, I guess no, I have no idea. Because in that case, right? Why wouldn't you just have four? Like if you were to, you know, North-South East West. I have no idea. Why, you know, why don't you have, that's a great question. Why don't you have eyes on the back of your head? Well, I'm asking you that. Like spherical vision. I've never contemplated it. What advice would you have for these men? Because you're a hell expert. Okay. I'm being put into a mental institution. I get my own will. I didn't know. I did nothing wrong. They're certainly for no reason. They're certainly for no reason right now. Why would they do that to him? He did nothing wrong. and he has nobody he can tell because he's a person of color is that why that's got to be epic joke that was good thanks no but really well how can you help him do you know some people he asked about Facebook you're not even going to believe this but I might even be too young for Facebook no really damn god that was better than bigger loser by the way well no you're just around the age of people that use Facebook I'm not even trying to make fun of you I mean you're 150 years old yeah 50 year olds on his Facebook what do you think he uses Facebook my mom hold is your mother like 70 yeah yeah there's a range like 50 to 80 once you get too far past those people are kind of you know past that limit even 40 year old you say you should be 30 years like that that's not I'm saying there's a range it's like guys YouTube it's like I don't know between five and 80 okay I do watch YouTube right yeah but he didn't ask for help on youtube but can you help him you have a lot of connections don't you know people in the government I think we'd have to do it we'd have to determine what kind of help do we think that he needs well clearly he needs to get out of that car that they're holding a hostage in I think that's debatable he may need he may need that so you don't believe in the first amendment I do believe in the first amendment but it's possible depending upon why he's sitting in that chair that they may need to be 51 50 in him that seems like it impedes on the first amendment doesn't it though well depends what he did the police can physically take you to the hospital if you say you want a bunch of children I don't think it does I don't think you're allowed to incite violence under the first amendment that seems like an impediment no I don't think so I think there's a clear distinction you cannot incite violence yeah that means with the according to who well who came up with that god the founding fathers I don't think they thought about it that far they definitely didn't think about this guy's situation I don't think the founding fathers had considered 51 50s but what hold on you're making a distinction of like if you threaten to kill a bunch of kids how do you get past the algorithm I don't think he did that he probably was just having a hard day and they decided to pick on him it's possible but without knowing for sure I imagine if you're surrounded by police he doesn't think he's physically hurt anybody or he'd be in handcuffs he could be threatening to hurt himself that seems like he should be allowed to do that with the first amendment yeah but we don't want that so you don't like the freedom I don't like self deletion if that's what so you don't think people should be a 90 year old in in horrible pain should be allowed to keep themselves I do think that I actually do you know how old this guy is or what his situation is he's about 30 do you know that for a fact 35 do you know how old he is for a fact no so then how can you say that is he looking 90 to you you don't know he's situation well you thought I was 80 so for god's sake no I don't think he was 80 I wasn't even thought so yeah I was just saying that you're definitely a 30 you don't even know you know 50 to 80 you don't know how old that guy is you know shit you're like a kiddo I'm just saying you know nothing I don't even think your frontal lobe is fully cooked yet how old is fully cooked yeah you're gonna be like 25 until that shit's baked I think cooked kind of is used to say that it would be destroyed no no no cooked like fully formed okay you just use that word differently because you're old I'm not even saying that insultingly I just haven't heard it used like that in a while really cooked I'm like six years away I'm 25 oh yeah no I'm so I'm surprised you're even able to like navigate traffic hey guys sorry for the interruption I have to let you know that today's episode is sponsored by Shopify starting a new business can be extremely stressful 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you to Shopify's for sponsoring today's episode did you kill part and axe or keep him alive who part and axe part and axe he's the dragon on the mountain would I kill him or did you kill him or did you keep him alive oh never kill a dragon that's good no no fucking way no way dude and would you watch game of thrones no this has nothing to do with game of thrones of course it does it's all about dragons part and axe he's not from game of thrones yeah but still it's about dragons a dragon's a dragon you either appreciate them or you don't they will kill your people in game of thrones would you report them a to the police or let them go for $30 I'd report them to the police why because they're not people but they offer just 30 bucks even still are you gonna up the ante i'm trying to think about you know i'll make you more interesting why if you know they won't go on to my anybody else so the damage is already done forever yes so there's no justice but you'll get 30 bucks no why because there is justice if i don't take the 30 bucks because they go to jail for the crimes they've already committed yeah but the crimes are already committed are still crimes that will exist forever despite them going to jail yeah but they should pay for those crimes well instead they can pay you yeah you only offer me $30 okay i didn't know that you had so much money that it was in difference to you you know maybe to some of your audience they're struggling out there but you have what millions it doesn't matter to you no it doesn't matter at all $30 you insult me how much do you have like $20 million is that an actual amount i think if you googled me my kid did that once and i made the very clear distinction that was mine that worth and he had about $50 in this piggy bank but nevertheless today you're actually adopted you idiot i'm not gonna get nothing from this ever i made that clear i only adopted you to make myself look good pretty much yeah thanks white savior thing that's what but the but the boy child's actually got to make it all the boy child's white no no no the boy child is a is a white one yeah i had to balance it out who are you to shame people for being fat when you are gay and ex fat person what do you mean well i mean because i was fat i can then shame people for being fat but who are you to shame them next fat person it's like you also gay did what you hold the gate you hold the fat card though don't you understand it's kind of like yeah but you're in no position to tell somebody that they're loaded in here of course you are of course you are it's just like black people can can use slurs for black people gay people can use slurs for gay people you i hold the card that's the game but you're misunderstanding my point i'm in a position to be called fat no i'm not you said how can you go after these people i said i was one i hold the card you completely misunderstood i did not i can assault fat people i was never extremely fat no you can't that you can no no you can't because you're like you you're like you you're with an a at the end you still can't do it i can do it you can't do it even if it's in your favorite rap song because you're lower than black i'm not saying that you don't have to i wish they wouldn't put that word in so many really good songs because then it's like you don't say it never you think it should be illegal probably the only word i think i have never said oh really yeah why is that i don't know because my knife was really little it was just it was ingrained in me you said it a lot i said it all the time did you really no i'm sure you said it when you were younger i'm telling you the honest you got a truth either actually that's like the one category of words that i do Martin Luther was around when you were young was around the civil arms Frederick Douglass more like yeah and were you a supporter of that movement or you you realized what was actually going on well i guess i'm a supporter of it you know how do you think that worked out i think it worked out okay no we had now we have 9/11 there would be no 9/11 if there was no there was no civil rights movement think about that okay walk me through it connect the dots for me well things would have just turned out differently but how do you know 9/11 wouldn't happen how do you know like what if they took out the sears tower something like what makes well it may have been something else but it wouldn't be 9/11 what if it was worse so you can't predict how it would work out what if it was world peace you're already giving me like two diversion paths it could go better it could go worse well what if it went worse no i'm not giving you dive you said in infinite diversion paths if you think about it like that i know i'm just giving you one there would absolutely almost certainly be no 9/11 exactly you don't know that it's more than likely it is more than likely but now because of black people just because that that story with a butterfly here not because they had a choice to make no no no because of black people i don't remember that the butterfly effect about the guy that goes back in time and he kills a butterfly and goes back to the future and everything's different. That's exactly what I'm saying. Oh, I have to agree with you here. So we shouldn't have done the civil rights movement. No, I think we should have done it for sure, but I do think that you might be right. I'm just trying to gauge what you're even willing to say, because I actually- I think I've said a lot, don't you? Not exactly. No, I can't really- Totally forthcoming. Um, what? Maybe in your world. How can I be more dreadful? I said, what's your political opinion? You said common sense, which is absolutely a teller. Oh, be specific, be specific. What's your political opinion? Which issue? Israel. Honestly, I don't think Israel is the root of all evil. I'm sorry. You know, you don't mind Israel. I don't mind Israel. Here's my position on Israel. Everything that people take Umbridge with- with Israel, I completely appreciate and understand, but I just wish they would apply those standards unilaterally. So if you're pissed off about money and politics, then you should also be pissed off about Saudi and Qatar and China and all those other lobbies apply it unilaterally. If you're pissed off about the wall between Israel and Palestine, that's totally fine, but you should also be pissed off about the wall between Palestine and Egypt and drowning Palestinians and tunnels with their own excrement. Just apply it evenly. That's all I ask. Call, call something that you think is bad. That's like you're just finding a way to justify it. Saying these guys also do bad things. I think it's all terrible. I don't want to see anyone like that. So you think Israel is terrible, but other people are too. I don't think Israel is terrible. You said it's all terrible. I think when someone dies, it's terrible. Do you see what I mean when I say you're not really willing to say anything? I just told you what I think. I'm telling you what I think. I do not want. You're like the perfect example of an old-school conservative that just won't say no. Not an old-school liberal. You don't know. You don't even know what that's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's what an old-school conservative is. Dick Cheney. It's a kind of a rhino. It's you seem pretty pro-war. You think? Yeah, that's how you come off. Really? You just defended Israel for like five minutes. I did not. I said. I said I want people to apply their standards, you know, laterally. And you said that it's all terrible. People don't think I think it's terrible. Even even if it's Israel's fault. You see how you're not willing to go there? It's like a muzzle on. Here's what I would say. I think what happened on October 7th was hideous. I need to ask about October 7th. But they don't go hand in hand? Well, if I asked about it, then I'd expect an answer there. All right. Well, that my opinion is I think that was horrible. I wish that didn't happen. Obviously. And I wish that everything pro-proceded. Now, after that did not happen as well. That's a real laugh. That's not that's not out of like that, right? That's a real one. Something's very funny. I don't think that the root of all evil I don't. I do think that horrible things happen. And I think both sides have done things to each other throughout history. I'm certainly not an expert on it. Are they a sponsor of your podcast? They are not. But it's more than willing to open up the books. You would let them. Would you let them sponsor them? No, open up the books for an audit. How much money are we talking now, actually? If it's not $30, I might. How much? How many views do you get per show? Depends. Sometimes it's only like 50,000. But sometimes, sometimes it's a couple hundred thousand. So, what does it average out of? Do you think I can make? Hold on. If I pull analytics, give me one second. You tell me you're better at this than me. Give me a sec. You tell me how much I can get. Where's my studio app? Okay. Here we go. How much do I get? You're going to tell me something. It's only $30. I'm not going to do it. If it's like $3 million. It's like $75. $75? No, I'm not going to. No. But you're already doing all the stuff they want. They're basically just throwing you $75 bucks. They say we appreciate all you say about Israel. All we want to do is just give you money. We know you're going to keep doing it anyways. Yeah, but then there's a paper trail. I don't know what that. I mean, there's also like a video trail from right now. Yeah, but now you know that what I tell you is authentic. If they pay me, then it compromises the authenticity. I don't know that it's authentic. I'm actually hoping for you that it isn't. I'm hoping there's like a reason that you have to say this. There's not. Otherwise, you're completely screwed. Hey, guys, sorry for the interruption. Have to let you know that today's episode is sponsored by Factor. 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M-A-T-A-N-5-0-O-F-F to get 50% off and free daily greens per box. That's FactorMills.com/Button50Off and use my code, Maton50Off. M-A-T-A-N-5-0-O-F-F. New subscription only wild supplies last until September 27th, 2026. Thank you to Factor for sponsoring today's episode. Would you be in support of letting fat people eat each other until there's none left? No. Why? Well, what would be the pro? There's no more fat people. What's wrong with fat people? I mean, you're the one who ran that show. Obviously, you know what's wrong with them. Wow. I'd like to see them live longer, but that's because I value them not because I don't. Yes, but if fat people living longer means that there will still be fat people around and they'll make other people become fat by normalizing it, and then people who could be skinny will become fat and die. Why not get the fat people to eat each other? I still don't see the pros. I just explained it. It's not good enough. You have such terrible incentives. You want $30? No, I don't want $30. I just told you a millionaire. It's wrong with you. And how much money do you make nowadays? Is it kind of coming down or is it stabilized or what? Oh my god. I nowadays much less than I used to make, unfortunately, because I'm a Zionist. You're not even making money from it. I'm telling you. I know. It's almost authentic. Yeah, it costs money to be a j****** better Zionist. Wow. I know. It really sucks, but I'm more invested. You're gonna be rotting in hell. I already have to. Well spiritually, I mean physically when you're dead. Okay. What's the best financial advice you'd give to a r****** 700 pound midget that is going to be the victim of a terrorist attack in 30 minutes? Is there a. Oh, sorry. What's the. What's the. it's the best financial advice I give them? Yeah. Pull them my clothes to you. Well, sorry. Hard. Sorry. Okay. Am I sharing the mic though? No. Oh. Are you sure? Yes. Okay. The best financial advice. I'm your biggest fan of watching your show for years. Look how young he is. Does he look like he's 80 to you? Who is that? He's my fan. Who? This young kid. I don't think. But this young gentleman is my. I'm gonna follow you to your house later and I love you. See? It's a young kid. He's a fan. He sounds like a fan. He's on on Facebook. Nice to meet you. What's your name? My name is Jillian. What's your name? My name is Skin Removal. Oh no. He's just left. He's actually leaving. That was your biggest fan. Oh, shit. It's only when I have these days except my mom. He should have threw a flying knee at your dog. That would have been a good exit. Anyways, back to that question I asked. Right. I mean, I had a look for a lawsuit if there was one. A lawsuit? Yeah. You said financial advice. He's just been in a terror attack. Like, could he? No. Now, you said he needs financial advice. I'm suggesting that if he's looking for financial advice, he's just been the victim. He's going to be the victim in 30 minutes. That's my fault. Okay. So, surely there was a breach and security of some kind and he could sue over it. And they'll settle just cause it's costs. He will be dead. No, he could survive it. And then if he does, you're actually making a good point. I didn't consider that he could be alive. This is what happens. Okay. And you have life experience. I'm trying to tell you this is why you can be a little Zionist, make no money and still be able to feed yourself. Yes. Because you invest well. Well, actually, it does help you because actually, no, it doesn't. I was going to say that's why your show still on air, but it doesn't. So you don't even get platformed by being a Gentile Zionist. No! You're just running, like. Like everybody else, just a podcast on YouTube that nobody watches. - You know, yeah, you're not wrong. - You really need to get something out of this. - How? - Do you think? - You need to talk to somebody, and if somebody knows them in this room, it's you. - Okay. - Don't you know RFK? - Yeah. - If you're a health expert, why don't you help him? He sounds like a dying bug. - Yeah, I don't know that I could be helpful with something like that. - Why? - Do you think there's money in that for me or are you just suggesting that he could use that? - Any of your friends of yours? - No, believe it or not, I'm answering honestly, no, I barely know the guy. I've met him. - You don't like helping people? - I do like helping people. - So do me a favor. - Yeah. - Do me a favor. You can't, I think I know people that are trying to help him with like stem cells and things like that. - Yeah. - What to replace his brain? - This is a fixed-the-boy situation. I'm serious. - Yes. - No? - If he's gonna use stem cells for something, I feel like he has bigger concerns. (laughing) - It's possible. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. A rising tide lifts all ships. So maybe, maybe the stem cells will help with everything. - Or maybe he'll just form into a fetus. - Not, I haven't seen that happen. - Well, who knows, a rising tide, something with ships? - No, no, no, no, not the same mechanism at all. - Do you agree more with the Republican sentiment of less regulation, except for things they don't like? Or the Democrat sentiment of more regulations besides for things they think should be allowed? - They're a Republican one. Less regulation, except for stuff you don't like. - And what stuff do you not like? - Corporate America. - No, really. - You're like, I don't like billionaires. That would be shocking. - No, I would like to see big ag-regulated, big food-regulated, big pharma-regulated. - Look at that makes sense. - Are you like a big fan of Elon? - Not really a big fan of anybody. - Well, you like him. - When you get to be my age, you appreciate that there's good and bad and everyone and you tend to go issue by issue because if you went all or nothing, you'd have zero friends. - That's not an answer to my question. - That's an answer. There are things he does that I think are great. There are things he does that I'm like, I don't know about that. I guess if I had to say like, is there more good than bad? Unquestionably, in my opinion, with Elon Musk, there's more good than bad. But if you said the same thing about me, it's like there's things that people hate. Maybe there's a few things they like. I hope that for the majority, there's more good than bad, but that's debatable, actually. - Is a man allowed to cry if his whole family is murdered? - A hundred percent, yeah. - But does he not make him a bitch? - I don't think it really matters in that scenario, you know? - I don't think anyone's judging. - No, I don't think he will become demasculated, or he's emasculated. - Hmm, I think he gets a pass. - From who, from a lesbian woman? - From everybody. - It's not gonna get him very far. - You're not gonna give him a pass? - Because guys, I have a pass to cry from a lesbian Zionist. I'm probably gonna kick his teeth out. - No. - What do you mean you're not gonna give just a whole family just got killed? - Was that have to do with me? - Listen, you little nihilist. You gotta give him a pass. - This is what's wrong with your whole generation, 'cause you're full blown black pillars. Come on, give the man a pass. - Can you refrain from using terms like that? - I could try. It makes me wanna throw up in my mouth. - Then maybe I won't. - What's the point of eating healthy to live longer when you can just take the healthy pill that guarantees you live until 120? - Oh, there's no point then, if that's the case. Is that pill exists? - Yes, he does, he's the one from the government. - Well, how do I get that pill? - They're giving it out, I think. - No, they're not, I would be the first, you're telling me that there's a pill. - But they don't need your help anymore. - Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. - I told you, I'm already wealthy. I don't care, this is the whole point. That's the point of having money and then investing it. - Now you just brag. - Then you don't give a shit. At least I'm not pretending to be modest. That's even more fucking annoying. Are those celebrities are like, oh, I don't like Capitalism, but they have millions of dollars in the bank. Like, what an asshole. No, I don't do that. You just turned that into a pro-capitalism thing. - Do you have a pro-capitalism? - It's like I'm talking to Grock. (laughing) That's not a compliment, by the way. It's actually a really big insult. - Really? Which one would be a compliment Gemini? - None of them. It would be a compliment to say you're talking to a robot. - Hey guys, it's gonna be so much smarter than all of us put together. - And now you're also pro at, wow. - I told you, there's good and bad and everything. You're gonna learn this and get old. - I know, you're very wise. - I am very wise. - One day, I hope to be as smart as you. Anyway, back to that. - Oh, that brain cook a little more. Like, I told you, and then it's. - You're right, if my brain starts cooking itself, then maybe I will end up like that. Anyways, back to the healthy part. - Yes, I'm so sorry. Wait, you said there's a pill. Hold on, hold on, hold on. So you're saying there's a hypothetical pill? - I don't believe it's a hypothetical. I believe they're about to be done. - I can take this though. - I'm producing it. - And I'll live to 120? - Yes. - I can eat whatever I want. - Essentially? - Who in the world would not take that pill? - Maybe it'll cost a lot of money, who knows? - I just told you, that's not an issue. - For you, yes, but for the average person. - They're not my problem, are they? - Should they only give it to the rich? - Yeah. - Those are gonna afford it. - What is the best way to make 1500 bucks a month? - Well, there's a lot of different ways to make 1500 dollars a month. - Sports betting. - That one of your sponsors? - No. - So what am I? - Is it really? - Yeah. - Shut up, is it a (beep) - Not them, but I'm gonna believe that. Then it wouldn't get any airtime. - Okay. - Whoever buys it only gets airtime on the ad spot. - Got it, okay. - And if they're not buying an ad spot, then of course they don't get airtime anywhere. - No, you're right, that was irresponsible of me. - That's right. - What is the best health advice you would give to long neck? - I don't know long neck. I heard about him though. - Yeah. - Is he real or is he mythical? - No, he's real, he's my next guest. - What does he look like? - He's about only five foot six. He has a very long neck, he's about 60 pounds. He probably has some form of either condition or extreme eating disorder. - Oh, 'cause yeah, he's 60 pounds, if five foot six. - I mean, he's like thinner than this paper. - I'm not joking. - Okay, so what advice would I give him? - Eat. - Yeah, but he probably has a condition where he can't. He's constantly high. - He's constantly high. - He's getting beat up by his friends on Instagram and he doesn't even get any views anymore doing it. - Shit. Wow, that's rough. You know what advice I give him? - You're gonna tell him to delete himself. - Oh yeah, you figured it out. - I know, I know. (laughs) - Oh no, what? - So what advice would you give him? - Oh, what advice would I? I said eat more. - Eat more. - What if he does this workout? - I guess other people could do this workout as well. You let me know if you think it's effective. - Okay. - The hell, the handwriting worse than my two kids. Daily workout, deadlift, two sets of two push-ups, five squats, quarter pound of cheesets. You know what's interesting? You didn't put a Z on the end of cheesets. - Cheeset. - I bet that with the Mandela effect, like some people think it has a Z at the end. - Not just a cheeset. - Yeah, you're absolutely right. Five compound lifts, three sets of one isolation movement. - I mean, not bad. - So he should try that out? - No, I could do better, but yeah, that's not bad. - But why would he try that out? If his main problem is eating, he needs to gain weight. - You're actually giving him horrible advice. - No, no, no, no, that's your advice. - No, it's not. I doubt if this would be good for him. I didn't say he should do it. - Is that your writing? - It is my writing. - Oh, but you weren't going to suggest that two of him is what you're saying. - Yeah. - If he ate enough, he could not eat. He had some form of condition, obviously. - I mean, the guy's high, oh, the time, he tells us a one-year. - Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Why don't we just put him on like Decker? - What is that? - It's a steroid. - Windstroll. - He'll gain weight. - I actually don't really mess around with those things, but I think so. - I mean, there's also something to consider, which is that he's extremely fragile. You're starting to get rid of steroids. - You weren't like reddit for him, and they tried to be shit. - So you're saying he could die if you put him on steroids? - It's very likely. - I mean, if that's the case, then that's the case, you know. - So that's a, he's screwed. - No, no, I'm saying let's try some steroids and some food. - And if he doesn't want them, then put him down. - I didn't say put him down. You want that (beep) - Your dog, he's pissing me off. (laughing) - I hate dogs. - You have no idea. - Oh my goodness. I've had that poor little thing for like five days. - Your studies from Lebanon? - You should send him back there. - Can you believe I didn't get in this rarely dog? - I'm gonna fucking Arab dog. - He probably is. (laughing) - You're probably lying to me. (laughing) - I probably am lying to you. - All right now, yeah, for everyone who thinks we're totally insane, the dog came from a rescue in Lebanon, which is a separate story that I won't bore the hell out of your watchers on, but yes. And it cannot leave the dog alone, because apparently Spaniel's how, quite loudly, and it's not appreciated. - Okay, well, that's it, I have to go back. - We're going back now and I'm on my dog. - Okay, what am I to do, y'all? (laughing) - This is a dog. Thanks for the time. Thanks for coming. Appreciate it. It's been fun. All right, guys. Wait, do I get to see the kid again? The skinny kid? No.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Jillian Michaels, known from "The Biggest Loser," now works in health policy and is writing a book on the intersection of health and politics.
  2. She identifies as a 90s liberal with common-sense views, criticizing political hypocrisy and advocating for consistent standards in global issues like Israel-Palestine.
  3. She rejects labels like "white nationalist" but acknowledges being labeled due to her stance on cultural and racial issues, emphasizing self-respect and defense against harmful rhetoric.
  4. She opposes AI-driven classroom disruptions, values human connection, and believes in the importance of free speech and school inclusivity.
  5. She promotes empathy in social issues, such as mental health and systemic inequality, while critiquing moral absolutism and political bias.
  6. She emphasizes that personal responsibility and health choices matter, including diet and lifestyle, though she questions the ethics of extreme solutions.
  7. She remains open to critique but resists being defined by simplistic political or cultural narratives, advocating for nuanced, context-based thinking.
  8. Her humor and self-awareness highlight contradictions in public discourse, making her a relatable yet controversial figure in current debates.

Summary:

Jillian Michaels, renowned from "The Biggest Loser," transitions from fitness fame to a career in health policy and political commentary. In this interview, she presents a nuanced, self-reflective perspective on current social and political issues, identifying as a 90s liberal grounded in common sense. She challenges simplistic accusations of racism or extremism, arguing that people should apply consistent moral standards globally—such as in Israel-Palestine—rather than selectively condemning one side.

She defends free speech, critiques systemic inequities, and emphasizes personal responsibility in health and society. Though she makes bold statements, she often does so with irony and self-awareness, highlighting contradictions in public discourse. The conversation also touches on controversial topics like AI in schools, mental health, and political bias, where she advocates for empathy, balance, and real-world context.

Despite the tone of satire and humor, her views reflect a deep engagement with societal values, identity, and accountability—making her a complex and often polarizing presence in today’s political and cultural debates.

FAQs

Jillian Michaels is currently writing a book on health and policy, which is set to be released later this year. She also works in the intersection of health and politics.

She identifies as a 90's liberal and believes in common sense, advocating for balanced standards across global issues like Israel-Palestine, while criticizing the application of political norms selectively.

She acknowledges that Trump was the 'lesser of evils' and supports him on some issues, though she does not fully align with conservative views, describing herself as a 90's liberal.

She suggests that replacing disruptive students with AI-driven robots is not effective, arguing that disruption is a natural part of learning and that such solutions would simply shift the problem.

No, she explicitly rejects this idea, stating it lacks logical merit and that the goal should be healthier living, not violent solutions.

She believes the Civil Rights Movement was important and necessary, noting that without it, events like 9/11 might not have occurred, though she acknowledges the outcomes of history are complex.

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