Massie Impeaches Hegseth

what's up what's up everybody rob will be right back he just needed his in i'm dave smith he's robbie the fire bernstein he is already out in new orleans narlins uh where i will meet him in just a couple days we'll be out there all weekend for skank fest gonna be uh gonna be a lot of fun we're doing a live part of the problem excuse me um and i think there's no pay-per-views this year so it'll probably just go up on the website but should be a lot of fun and you got a bunch of shows rob what do you got going on yep i'm out in uh new orleans early i'm excited there's some great music venues out here i'm gonna go hang out at and then uh wednesday night mandanville la was a really fun rowdy bar show last year so if you're out in the area come out for that and then uh next weekend i've got new york city and old sabra connecticut you can find that at porch tour.com and then uh dates coming up shortly for west palm beach jacksonville in tampa and that will be it for the year so come porch almost the uh end of me doing the fbi thing live last chance to check it out all right sounds good well rob there's a lot going on in the world and i think i mean there's a lot of stuff i want to talk about today we certainly won't have time for all of it but we have to talk about the fact that our boy thomas massey last night introduced articles of impeachment against the secretary of war pete hegseth uh many people had been predicting that the democrats were going to impeach pete hegseth when they come into the new congress uh but thomas massey beat him to it um i gotta say well i'm curious to get your thoughts on this rob and and there's a lot of different aspects of this that i want to cover um i will just uh start by saying that obviously i absolutely support this move uh and i'm going to start by saying that i'm going to start by saying that i think pete hegseth just clearly should be removed the guy is totally incompetent he's uh he's responsible for allowing us into war he has the the strike of that little girl's school on his hands not to mention um you know it's like all the grounds that thomas massey is trying to impeach him on are totally legitimate and on top of that and like i just want to be very clear about this i mean this will be a theme that really goes on for a while here it's hard to kind of overstate here well i see there's a lot of people who are going to impeach thomas massey and i'm going to start by saying that there's a lot of people who are upset with thomas massey i guess it's the last the last whatever the very small percentage of the country that represents the the still supporting trump people or whatever the the republican coalition that is not strong enough to carry texas rob that coalition is some of them are upset with thomas massey he is so clearly guilty of only the crime of being right about everything like it is it is so conclusively true at this point that the war cost us the midterms literally to the point that that jd vance and donald trump and will chamberlain or whoever else other hack they have out there they'll all admit it now thomas massey was the guy who was right about that no one can really defend that we should have kept the epstein files a secret like he's just right about everything and you guys decided for the crime of that that you were going to go politically speaking to total war against him rob why on earth would the expect tation be that he should not return the same to you like there's going to be this thing going forward if there is ever any hope of rebuilding say like the trump coalition that won which by the way everyone who is involved with that coalition has a real incentive to want to be rebuilt under somebody else because otherwise we could get something much worse than that but how are we to move forward if you're going to tell me the expectation is that you guys can go to total war against this guy for the crime of him being right when you're dead wrong but he is not supposed to respond with total political war against you when you're dead wrong and criminally so and he's got you dead to rights so anybody who's got a problem with this it's just this is an amazing case of politically you reap what you sow any thoughts rob i think uh you know clearly the midterms have been very valuable because we're out of this lie that everyone still loves trump and that the word is not a problem and the right wing hasn't fractured and i almost think that we need to do something about it i think it's a good idea to do something need more election cycles more often. And as you were talking, I think we got to turn government into survivor and annually do the biggest buffoon of the administration award, where the public gets to vote one person from the cabinet out of office. And I think Pete Hegseth should be this year's winner. Next year's winner should obviously be the treasurer, secretary Scott Besant. The two of them seem to compete for who's more unlikable. I'll use the nicest term I can use instead of the term I'd rather use to use Scott, to define Scott. I'm going to be diplomatic here, but I, no, I. It's so rare. No, I think, I think Massey's absolutely justified for, for going after Hegseth. I think it's, I think it's a good look. And I, I, I legitimately mean what I'm saying. I think it would be valuable if every year the public got to vote one person out of the administration and put some pressure on them to not be the most unlikable. Yeah, no, no, look, I'm, I'm not going to argue with you on that, you know, just to, to give some perspective on this. And I will say, Rob, I saw a few people, um, we're saying, cause as people know, I keep my ear to the streets. I know what the people are saying. Uh, I saw a few people who were, who were even, although I thought I was so careful to be precise in the last episode, still, some people were going, look at Dave. He's setting up that he's going to support Vance. He's already leaving the door open. And like, just to be clear here, like, as I've said a million times, I'm not going to argue with you on that. I'm not going to argue with you on that. I'm not going to argue with you on millions of i'm not going to end up supporting anyone from this administration because they're well number one because them but number two because it's it's just a non-starter none of them have a chance of succeeding we just saw this the other night they're done i guess i was like just saying hey we may as well incentivize this guy who's already politically incentivized to hey go try to make some miracle happen but anything short of a miracle he's not getting any support let alone mine and believe me if a miracle takes place you know like whatever we'll deal with that at the time but right now like look this is i i i don't know how to say this it's just so poetically just to me and and it really is it's unbelievable to me to see people even attempting to argue with thomas massey here i want to revisit something this was a clip um from earlier in the year uh when jd vance spoke at turning point usa um uh so jd vance spoke at turning point usa and he was asked a question by one of the youngsters about thomas massey because young people love thomas massey he's one of the most popular political figures amongst young people in the united states of america i don't know if you guys took a look at the polling by age but if only 50 and under vote i think thomas massey wins by 90 something percent rob like it is it is hard to explain how much it was the op against thomas massey worked 100 on boomers only like it did not fool anybody else and that's why it's so fascinating when people in the social media space or in the uh in the podcast world like try to use the defense because you're like dude there's no boomers here man you got no audience for this like everyone everyone here sees through this anyway back to turning point here was jd vance when asked about you know the vicious smears coming from donald trump toward thomas massey let's take a look this will be the last question ricky bobby 2048 that's who i'm voting for this is the last oh wow we've been here over an hour that's amazing okay i'm sorry those of you didn't answer a question i tried to be as quick as i could go ahead mr vice president i'm humbled and honored to be here recently president trump endorsed a candidate to run against republican representative thomas massey who's opposed and criticized some of the trump candidates so i'm going to ask ricky bobby this is a very good question and i think it's a very good question and i think it's a very good question how would you address those who fear that principle disagreement or independent thinking is to encourage within the party because of how it can be framed as a betrayal instead of as internal accountability or an opportunity for debate and negotiation so it's a very good question let me say this one is hard for me and the reason it's hard for me is because thomas massey and i is one of the first people in politics uh thomas's wife died a um well maybe it was a year and a half ago two years ago it was a little while ago she died very unexpectedly was a very sweet and kind woman and i was probably one of the first people that called thomas all for my condolences i think the problem pause for a second you know i don't think you can take this away for a second i don't know if i really caught that the first time we watched this clip i think i just focused on the next thing you said but you know that's a real piece of for making that comment what a what a man politicians just suck so much dude they just are they're just the worst human beings bro i don't know dude like i'm not trying to like get all sappy and dramatic or something but i think most people who are like married with kids you know you kind of like expect in your mind that like you're gonna bury your parents someday that's kind of in your mind that like like i'd say i think about that a lot that over the next 10 20 years like me and lauren are gonna lose our parents we're gonna have to go through that together and we're very close with like my mom and her mom and dad and you know it's gonna be very hard you never like expect to lose your your wife like that's like a as such a dev anyway dude if you call someone if you're one of the first people to call someone after they lose their loved one bring that up for points publicly who brings that up what a disgusting thing to bring up publicly to like make yours to be paint a flattering picture of yourself jesus man right no i i just like don't think that i'd ever like like in a speech like if somebody was like hey you and rob used to be good friends but then you had a big falling out you're not friends anymore and i'd be like you know when rob's dad died i threw my arm around him as he wept and i was the first why why are you telling people this this is very weird that is the type of thing that all normal people do and don't brag about anyway also you called them they didn't they didn't go to a funeral they didn't help bury someone yeah whatever it's not even that much of a brag all right anyway let's keep playing sorry good and now i guess i'll say it in public is it's one thing to disagree with the party on a particular issue it's one thing to take you know to take to have your independent stand on a number of questions and by the way some of the stuff where thomas massey has been independent against the republican party i've agreed with him with thomas and i worked together during 2023 where i was trying to stop the limitless flow of american money to ukraine and thomas was one of the people i was working closest with it but that's one thing being independent having your own opinions is one thing voting against the party on every single issue you're eventually going to win the election and make too many enemies and that okay let's pause it right there let's pause right there is that not i'm sorry does that not just sum up jd vance entirely like this this is to me this is exactly who jd vance says i need to actually think about the logic of that first of all because well he's broken with the administration um you know uh and and some of those times i actually agree with him can't state any of the times you disagree with him you wouldn't want to mention those out loud now would you you fucking coward you just keep that vague oh yeah all the really popular stuff that as we know now in hindsight although i don't think we're bragging about having hindsight is 2020 we said this at the time all the things that destroyed trump's presidency um okay but then he'll remind you that look man he was really good on trying to stop that war that got millions of people slaughtered you know so there's room for being an independently minded guy like we didn't mind you trying no it's kind of cool when you were trying to stop that disastrous war but dude now you're trying to stop this disastrous war which is our disastrous war because because his line about but you don't vote with the team a hundred percent go look at the record massey voted with the republicans like what was the number right i think it's 80 percent 80 something percent something like that because zero percent he voted with the agenda every time the agenda was somewhat decent but look dude thomas massey just to be clear he's not ron paul like ron paul would just kind of vote against anything that wasn't constitutional that was like his voting record and that's why he put up the most nose you know like he would just always vote against it thomas massey voted for the one spending bill ever that cut spending even though the cut was like 20 billion dollars or something another he just went all right if it cuts i'll vote for you know what i mean like he's he'll if you give him anything reasonable he'll vote for it the things he wouldn't go along with are the war in iran covering up the epstein files and spending us further into debt those that's it rob that's the entirety of where he broke with the republican establishment and jd vance goes yeah dude but if you're not on the team for those things then you're just not on the team that's politics okay now first of all that tells you exactly who jd vance is as a person but second of all rob i'm sorry if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander if that's politics you know what else is politics rob this is so politics introducing articles of impeachment it's like the most politics thing you can do and so sorry buddy like you just did this you guys did this what the fuck did you think not only did you decide that we can't uh tolerate having one congressman be good on stuff one congressman who by the way objectively no matter how you feel about thomas massey a congressman who represented a portion a portion of the base like a not in a not unsubstantial like thomas massey who represented a portion of the base like tucker carlson would go that's my representative i would go that's my representative i know candace owens and joe kent and you know marjorie taylor green and like all these people would like that that represents a bit a chunk of what was the maga coalition okay megan kelly people like this that you went to ward unseat him spent tens of millions of dollars had a blackout on fox news and sent in specifically rob who was the the pitbull who they sent in to kentucky to go campaign against massey in the in the fourth quarter oh yeah that was the secretary of war pete hegseth man maybe you should make sure that the war secretary you send in to take out our guy isn't i don't know guilty of war crimes because you know if he's got that hanging over him maybe someone on our side might want to use that against you look i'm just saying dude they look we broke with maga over the war and the corruption and the spending right we broke with maga over those issues and they decided for because of that that they were going to go to war and unseat the one guy we had who represented us now they think we're supposed to be team players we're supposed to sit here and go hey guys don't make the administration look really bad by pointing all this shit out sorry dude this is it is just so undeniably reasonable at this point rob that it's like we're not the ones who are wrong we're not the ones who have to apologize go for it impeach them all all right guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is gold back california just got its own gold currency i am serious gold back released a brand new california series and they've completely redesigned the original utah notes now here's why that matters everybody knows inflation is real go watch my interview with jeremy corden he's the ceo of gold back and he'll tell you exactly why it's so important but you already know about inflation you feel it every time you go to the grocery store or fill up the tank or buy anything now gold is the obvious answer but for daily purchases you're stuck using dollars that keep losing value well that's where gold back comes in to fix that they're real 24 karat 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And it's one of the easy ones for me because it's a product that I can get 100% behind. Go to goldback.com slash Dave to check out the new California series and the Utah refresh and pre-order yours right now. That's goldback.com slash Dave. All right, let's get back on the show. Yeah, it is funny that Massey was more in line with the entire country. And as you can see from the midterms, Massey represented exactly what the MAGA base was actually upset with Trump about, despite all of Trump's hollering that I'm the only one that's MAGA, these other people aren't MAGA. And it's so, I mean, you're so right that Massey has all of the, he's playing politics back and that's completely fair and legitimate. And so now you guys are going to complain about the game that you've clearly invested your entire lives into and Massey's right to be doing what he's doing here. But the part that really struck me is just this complaint of it's good to be independent and it's okay to break with your party. But he broke with the party on too many things. Yeah. All bad things. Are you, are you standing by that? You guys should have, uh, um, not put out the Epstein files. You're standing by that. The Iran war was a good idea. You're standing by the tariffs were a good idea. You're standing by all the spending that we've done with the Trump administration. These are all things are standing by. Dude, I think the Iran war put the Democrats back in control of the country. And you know, who else thinks that the vice president JD fucking Vance does now, now, when it doesn't matter now, when it's too late now, when you well already lost, but when it mattered, what were you doing? Oh, you were on stage being a fucking coward. It's like, how do you have any hope of carrying this movement? Unless you goddamn apologize for that and do everything in your power. Now, I mean, like, I don't know this, but sorry here. Let's, uh, let's, let's go to, uh, was there more to that clip or I think we got, I think we got what we needed to. Let's, let's go to, uh, let's go to Thomas Massey, uh, introducing, uh, articles of impeachment. Well, we've got six minutes, but it looks like there's enough people here to have a press conference. So we'll go ahead and start. Won't keep you waiting, uh, in this chilly air. Um, there are eight articles of impeachment that I've just introduced. I'll be glad to take your questions on it. The one thing that I want to point out here is, um, a lot of, a lot of people are saying, well, I think. Peter Hegseth's effective. He's, he's good at his job. Um, and so I don't want to vote for these articles of impeachment. Well, the reality is we're not indicting him for being bad at his job. In fact, he was very effective at killing school children in Iran. He was very effective at extrajudicial killings. There's no argument in these impeachment articles that he's ineffective. The argument here is that he's broken laws and he's violated the constitution. And so that's the question put in front of my mind. colleagues. Now, I understand that some of them may want to vote for this because they just want to see Hegseth gone. I'll welcome their vote if that's a reason and they choose not to read the articles of impeachment. But I would encourage people to take them very seriously. The first three articles of impeachment are centered on the 1973 War Powers Resolution. And the White House legal counsel has tried to go around these things. I'm sure they've advised the president and the vice president and even the secretary of defense not to use the word war because and you see their tortured use of the English language in the early days of this. They tried to not. All right. Yeah. So you can pause it right there. So and then you can jump up to the six minute mark that Rob had laid out there. But I did think it was like, man, I mean, look, Thomas Messick comes out there. I think this is what you want out of your politicians, dude. Like this. This type of honesty and fire and actually trying to hold somebody in power accountable. Again, you know, every time that there's any time that there's ever a move to hold anybody in the Republican establishment accountable, whether it's through, like, say, elections, Rob, they'll say, oh, but you're going to get a Democrat in. Oh, but you're going to hand this over to somebody else. There's nothing like that in this situation. Trump will get to pick the next defense secretary. Yeah, you might have trouble confirming. Yeah, you might somebody in who's it can't be as bad as him and like or it could be as bad, but at least won't be as incompetent and as bad. And then also. Look, dude, legally, there just is no argument against what he's saying here. The legal claim. I mean, it's so ridiculous, Rob, in any. But let's just say this in any honest court, if anyone were held, like if the law were to apply the way the law applies to anyone else and like the legal defense that the only legal defense there's there's essentially two that they could go with here is either that this isn't a war. Which is, come on, Rob, I mean, like I'm not even saying like just on a human level, we all go, oh, OK, so you're just lying. Basically, you're like I'm like it's like me taking a murder charge to court and going, oh, I don't consider this murder. I don't declare it murder or something like that. It's just too ridiculous. And the other one, Rob, is that it's been several different wars. Those are the only two legal justifications they can go with. Either it has a bit because the War Powers Act is very clear. It's it's 90 days. It's 60 days. And then you can request. I think I think you have to have a you have to written request for the 30 day extension, if I'm not mistaken. Somebody go check that out. But it's a total of 90 days that you can keep a war going before you need authorization from Congress. Has this war been over 90 days, Rob? They have to somehow argue that the war isn't over 90 days, whether that's because it's not a war at all or because, well, you see, actually, Rob, the bombing of Iran was one war and then the blockade of Iran was one war. But then when we had the MOU also, by the way, it all stopped. And then when the blockade happened again, you have to reset that. Like, I think you actually need one. And I guess if you did that, maybe. No, you need one more break. Anyway, they have to keep they have to claim. I think even that with the Saudi negotiations, that was an end to the war and then the war restarted. Like so again, it's just all so comically ridiculous. Yeah. So there you have it. I don't know. Any thoughts? Well, I guess there's one more defense for Pete Hegseth. And this is something you pointed out on Twitter today, but it's the Nuremberg defense. Oh, my God. Could you believe Nancy Mace? Oh, let me pull up the fucking tweet. This lady, which is one of your greatest moments on Fox News. If people want to go look up that clip, it was on that was on on S.E. Cup show, not on Fox News, on CNN. When? Yes. With. Oh, God, I can't remember the woman. Yeah, I got her to defend the Nuremberg principle. But but here's the crazy thing, dude. She was defending it for cops. This is for the secretary of war. Like, you know, it's kind of fucked up. Like, look, dude, I mean, I like in a way I was kind of fucked up. Like we were the debate back then was about the moral defense of just following orders. And she was saying it's a perfect moral defense. And I go, oh, that's the Nuremberg defense. You know, and so I got her on that. And but the truth is that we really did actually accept that defense for like low level officers. Right. Like we never said we're going to serve in like any of the SS offices or anything like that. We just said like, you know, we will try to get going, you know, like we will we will try to get the top level guys who are left. So like but this is the top level guy. This is Nancy Mace sitting congresswoman who I was just sitting next to the other day, absolutely schooling to the point that she was completely agreeing with me by the end of the night. She says vote on Hegseth impeachment is at 530 p.m. today. I will not be voting to impeach the Iran war. Is through no fault of his own. And he should not be the one scapegoated for it. I fully support the change. I fully support the changes Hegseth has made to the Department of War to make our fighting force the very best it can be. This is a woman who is all over TV admitting that the war cost us the country the other night and that it's all over the war. And now I just do to say again to say the Iran war through no fault of his own Iran war is through no fault of his own. But what what about the title Secretary of War? Do you think is it they're not picking some random guy? Like if you want to go, oh, they didn't go after the commander in chief, but they went after the very next guy. Like, yes, that is true. Look, see, Rob, the thing is, this is politics. Do you understand that? If you don't, JD Vance will explain it to you real quick. This is politics. Nancy doesn't have the votes to impeach Trump right now. OK, there's a political reason why he's going after Pete Hegseth. But like, hey, you know, he's responsible, too. He's every bit as much responsible as Goering was who we held responsible at the Nuremberg trials. He got he slipped himself a pill in the I don't want to ruin the movie. The point is, we we went down this path once, but like, look, dude, Pete Hegseth is guilty of war crimes. He's guilty of lying the country into war. You are talking about top level, absolute, absolute top level cabinet officials. You know, this is a guy in charge of the War Department. Sorry. He's the guy to go after here. And again, like, I don't know. This is just too crazy. Too crazy to say Pete Hegseth was just following orders. Come on. I also feel in my soul. Maybe this is not the most legal or moral approach to life, but I think at some point you got to be responsible for your own arrogance. And so when you're Pete Hegseth and you were out selling the war in the way that you were and so excited about the war and seemingly being one of the people that was really pushing this maybe behind the scenes, jockeying and giving bad intelligence to Trump. Like, I don't know that to be true, but I'm just saying Pete Hegseth was all about this war. He was not some reluctant person who got the orders and went, OK, Mr. President, this is what you want to do. I'll back you. He's he's still sold it. And so to me, he is full. He has full culpability. And while we didn't get to this in the in the clip, I think where they might really have him dead to rights on personal charges for Hegseth is actually the the blowing up of boats down in Venezuela, of which we have found out they were not all drug smugglers. Even if you want to say that you're allowed to blow up drug smugglers, we clearly the problem with not having trials is actually knowing that people are guilty of the crime that you're accusing them of. And with hindsight being 2020, I don't know the exact numbers because I haven't seen in a little while, but there was I'm going to say 20 percent of those boats just certainly weren't. We found out later. Mm hmm. I think it was something like that. Yeah, I wouldn't say numbers with certainty either. But yes, it was like in. And of course, and it was obvious at the time that we didn't know for sure that these people were were not only did we not know that they were there, there was no indication that they were on their way to the United States of America. We didn't know for sure. That they were even moving drugs. I'm sure he did kill a bunch of innocent people there. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Cove Pure. As you guys know, for me, since 2020, I've gotten really serious about always being prepared in my house. We learned in 2020 that the second people think there's a real emergency coming, everyone runs to the store and shelves get cleared out and water and toilet paper, things like that are the first to go. So you don't want to put your family in a position where you're drinking water depends on whether Costco still has a pallet left. 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You've had months to identify these targets and pick them, yet they pick a school building on a school day with school kids in it and then struck it again and then struck it again. So that is the foreseeable and obvious and unfortunate consequence of something Pete Hegseth did himself at the department. Now, you've you've also got the extrajudicial killings in the Pacific and the Caribbean. They're trying to say those are police actions. They're not only are they striking people without identifying them. They don't know who all those people are in the boat. They're going back and killing all the survivors. This puts our own military in danger in any kind of future military engagement, because what will happen is we're encouraging others. It's like, yeah, I mean, when you put it like that. Thomas Massey does make a good point. We've got him dead to rights on several counts of murder. Like, that's it. We just got a murdering a whole bunch of people. Yeah, I don't know. I find that to be impeachable. You know, I'm sorry, dude, but like I've I've seen article in my lifetime. I've seen articles of impeachment introduced over lying about blowjobs. I've seen articles of impeachment introduced about about a phone gun. I've seen phone call to Zelensky where Trump seemed to attempt to make a legal offer to him. I've seen impeachments over the bullshit inside job of January 6th. I've seen like a lot of bullshit impeachment attempts. But like an impeachment because we've got you dead to rights for murder. Maybe it's just me, Rob, is the type of guy I am. That does seem a little bit more reasonable. That seems like the type of thing. We should impeach people over. But I'm crazy like that. Well, it's fun when Thomas Massey steps into the ring. He's got people dead to rights and he's clearly accurate on this one and is making a noble, you know, it's a noble effort. I don't think it's going to go anywhere, but hell yeah. All right. All right. Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. I agree with you. What did I say? I got a little tripped up in my own brain there. OK, you know what? Let's let's move on. Let's do the. Mark Levin stuff. I feel like we got to hit the OK. And you said the same before the show, Robert. We got to hit the Mark Levin clip that I had yesterday. We can move on. And the Mark Levin stuff is great. The Thomas Massey and Rokohana on on the news was a pretty good clip also. Yeah. Let's let's go to the to the the. Sorry. Let's go to the Mark Levin stuff because I want to make sure we get both of those clips in. OK, so let's let's go to Joel. Joel Pollack suggests. That J.D. Vance is indebted to the Israel lobby. This is OK. So just to be clear here, this was on the Mark Levin show, and this is them responding to J.D. Vance's acknowledgment that a whole lot of Trump vans, 24 voters voted against the Trump vans because of the war, that that's what cost them the election, that they had enough turnout to win. But there are people who didn't vote for them and it was over the war, the inflation and the relationship with Israel. That's what cost them the election. That they had enough turnout to win, but there are people who didn't vote for them and it was over the war, the inflation and the relationship with Israel. That's what cost them the election that they had enough turnout to win, but there are people who didn't vote for them and it was over the war, the inflation and the relationship with Israel. the relationship with Israel. And here is the, this is not, again, I just want to stress, this is not a secret recording. This was broadcasted on Mark Levin's show. Let's check in. It does look very strange. It did throw the president under the bus. And here's the other thing. The pro-Israel portion of the Republican Party, obviously Republicans overwhelmingly support Israel, but specifically pro-Israel activists and Jewish Republicans, they have been a core part of the MAGA coalition. And they are a big reason J.D. Vance has a job in the executive today. And you don't repay that debt by then trampling on America's alliance with Israel. You don't do that. You don't say- All right, just pause it right there. Pause it right there. Now- This is actually the position here. And I got to say, Rob, this is like, it's not so thinly veiled. I mean, I'm sorry here, Rob, but look, Jews are 2% of the population, give or take, in the United States of America. About 70 something, 70 and change percent of that 2% vote Democrat. Okay. If you're talking about Jewish voters, you're left with a very, very small potential. You're talking about like vaguely pro-Israel people, but Rob, it really doesn't seem like that's what he's talking about. Like, who could you reasonably say here that are like pro-Israel forces who J.D. Vance like owes his seat at the table to? It seems pretty obvious we're talking about like Miriam Adelson. We're talking about AIPAC. We're talking about like serious Jewish organizations and influential Jewish people who have like really, you know, are at least partially responsible for Donald Trump being elected and J.D. Vance being in there. Okay. But then think about what the claim is. The claim is essentially that you owe your loyalty to the Israel lobby because they helped get you elected. Like, this is the big thing that everyone on that side always denies in every single debate, that there is any problem with Miriam Adelson, or AIPAC, or whoever giving all this money to political figures, because it's not like they then own you. But when this happens, they come out and say, hey, what the hell, man, we own you. This is unbelievably shocking to be said out loud. If you just look at it more without the Israel story, the claim is essentially, hey, you were bought and paid for. How dare you represent the American public, which is the inverse of everything we've been hollering about. I mean, I don't know what the hell you're doing, but I don't know what the hell you're doing, and why corruption is an issue in this past election of people realizing, oh, what the hell am I voting for? You guys are just lying to me and representing private interest. And he says it out loud. Yeah, it really is. It really is unbelievable. I mean, especially, right, Rob, when it's just, it's been demonstrated, there's no question that everyone know that super duper majorities of the American people oppose the war and oppose the relationship with the United States and with Israel. It's not as if he's, you're not saying, hey, you're turning against your voters. You're turning against the people. That's not the argument. So what is it? You're turning away from a special interest, right? By definition. Anyway, let's keep playing. Bullition, you're out. I don't want your support. I don't need your support. That's why it's stung a lot of people. Hold on, hold on. I'm sorry, Natalie. Can you bring us back? Bring it back a little bit. I'm sorry. Bring it back a little substantial amount. We're going to have a lot of this. This next part is just go ahead, Rob. I'm sorry. But that's literally what the complaint is of what Trump did to the voters. Hold on, hold on. Let's pull it back. Pull it back a little bit. I want to pull this again that this guy actually articulates this out loud. You cannot believe it. By then trampling on America's alliance with Israel. You don't do that. You don't say to an important part of the coalition, you're out. How's that? It stung a lot of people because. Oh, that's why. Is that? I mean, Rob, I mean, Rob, you don't. First of all, did J.D. Vance at any point say the Israel lobby is out of the coalition? Did he say you don't represent MAGA? Did he name their biggest influencers by name and specifically say that none of them represent the movement and that only Tucker Carlson does? Did he say that? Did he say Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro? Fuck them. Tucker Carlson is mad. He's mad. He's mad. And that's it. No, he didn't. But the fucking president of the United States explicitly said that about the entire part of the coalition that lost you this election that won you the previous one. I mean, dude, Rob, you will see very few examples of such blatant Freudian projection in politics as that statement. Dude, he literally says you can't explicitly tell a huge part of the coalition coalition. You're out. Except J.D. Vance didn't do that. And the president did to all of us. So suck on it now. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Brunt Workwear. I've been raving about these boots for quite some time now. And I've been raving about them for quite some time now. I've been raving about them for quite some time now. And I've been raving them time. And I mean it genuinely from the bottom of my heart. These boots are dope. 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Vance was doing was saying, I'm going to build a coalition without the pro-Israel wing of the Republican Party. That's the politics of subtraction, not the politics of addition. So in a way, he shot himself in the foot. You just, dude, it's like. That ending is so stupid. It's just counting in all the people that were abandoned and upset about the policy and saying, well, if you decide to go with the majority instead of the minority, then you're subtracting from the party by kicking out the minority and just assuming it's so stupid. Right, right. But the thing about it is, is that it's, and this is one of the ways, I mean, there's a million others, but it's one of the ways in which they really do, like, just, completely mirror the woke left, is that they're like, it's, it's this playing dumb tactic where you're like, it's almost so frustrating. Then you go, oh, you're not this stupid. You're just lying. Oh, okay. It's like when you would have a conversation with like a leftist person and they pretend they don't get what you're saying when you say there's a difference between men and women. They literally pretend they don't understand what you're saying. I literally, one leftist tell me once where I was literally in, in a conversation about this, I go, but you don't think like there's anything to the genetic differences between men and women. And he goes, no, it's all in the way we're raised. It's all an environment. And I went, so like, if I raised a little girl in a different way, like as a boy, she could be a professional linebacker in the NFL. And he goes, yes. And, and there's just this moment where you're like, wait, you're telling me like a girl could be an NFL linebacker. Like really? And he goes, and then you're like, no, but you're just pretending like that's kind of a thing dude, to sit here and say that a real leader should be trying to get the coalition back together. Not trying to kick one part of it out. Well, there's a few things that you might notice there. Okay. When the coalition was together, what were you guys screaming? No new wars. We promise you no new wars. That's when the coalition was together. The way the coalition worked was you guys all screaming. You promise no new wars while secretly believing he would launch one for you. How do you get that back together? In fact, JD Vance is probably doing the only thing you could to get the coalition back together. Kind of trying to promise no new wars again. And like, I, I don't know, you could say, oh, well, you can't, um, you like, you can't get the coalition together without the pro-Israel people without the pro-war people. It's like, okay, but it is so clear. The results of the elect of the last election are so clear that those people are in those people leading. There is no coalition. They're an albatross. That's the issue that the entire country has rejected. So what, how, how brain that is like these two are not possibly stupid enough to believe that it's like, Hey, there's this one, like we literally just went Robin two years from a historic victory to a historic defeat. It's clearly over this issue. If you want to move forward, you gotta make sure you don't alienate the people who support this issue is the dumbest political analysis of all time. But that's cuz these guys are liars, not dummies. Anyway, your thoughts are up. Um, yeah, I refract my statement about, uh, Mark Levin grinning. I just, uh, I envisioned that. And, uh, I guess that's in his soul as he, uh, yeah. Intent, intently stares and gives this guy full of attention and goes, wow, these are powerful words. I need a lock in for him. Well, look, dude, we'll give Mark Levin a little bit more air time now, because this was dude, there's something about a calm Mark Levin meltdown. That's that's worse than his frantic meltdowns. As we've said for a long time, we like high energy, Mark Levin. He's a good friend of the show. Low energy Mark Levin always misses the mark. Um, this was truly remarkable, dude. Uh, here is Mark Levin. Absolutely. Losing it over a, a, a Twitter, uh, account. Um, who look just to say for people who don't know, if you're not on Twitter, Mark Levin is a boomer. He's got a show on Fox news. His entire audience watches him on, on Fox news. He has no support on Twitter. Uh, but he tweets all the time. He gets in Twitter battles every single day. And he just like, he gets ratioed by everyone. It's, it's very strange that he hasn't just retreated. I, I don't know that anyone else in that situation, wouldn't just go, all right, I'm losing this battle. It doesn't look good for me to be calling a random guy on Twitter, a, a skinny little Nazi puke every two seconds. And then having him respond and getting a hundred times more retweets than me. Like that does not look good. Let me stop doing this. Let me approach Twitter in a different way, but no, he does not. And now he's gone to having full rants about like Twitter interactions with random Twitter accounts. Um, this one was glorious. Let's take a look. Monahan is a neo-Nazi type figure, by the way. Oh, pause it already. Uh, I should point out I follow Chris and have for a long time. Great Twitter follow guys. Go check him out. He's a, but he's, uh, he's, he's like, uh, it's a news Twitter account. And I, I could tell you this. I followed him for a long time, Rob. I couldn't tell you what his politics are other than telling you, yes, it does clearly seem that he is opposed to the corruption of the regime. Literally that that's it. The type of guy who will share, you know, like stuff about, um, hold on one second here. Just, uh, let me almost get like a good, uh, non-bias view of what his, um, hold on. Did I send this to you before? Sorry. Yes, I did. Okay. So just his, his account, I think like, okay, here's, this is what he's saying. Here's what he's saying. Okay. Here's, this is what he's saying. It's like retweets of Megan Kelly interviewing, uh, Emily Jachinsky talking about, um, the war. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, he's a guy who's like, like talking about the unpopularity of this war. That's about it. Couldn't tell you whether he's left or right. Other than that. And I've been following the guy for a long time. Good Twitter account follow to Mark Levin. That makes you a Nazi. That's how unhinged we are already. Like, I'm just, just so people know, this is not a guy who you'd find a tweet where he was talking about the Jews or like anything like that. There's. Just totally like talking about like, oh, this very corrupt unpopular war. He doesn't have a lot of followers and so forth, but he must post about me 10 times a day. Have you noticed this? Mr. Producer, he's a what I'll say is obsessed. He's a stalker, but he's more than that. He is. He's a brown shirt. And he takes things out. context and i'll put a sentence or two there with uh and try and make it very trying to make it very provocative so i'll take comments off this radio show and do it and yet the entire radio show is online and so i always talk about these interpreters who feel that they need to interpret what i say so we don't hide anything we say and so they're like cockroaches they come out in a group or mosquitoes and then the next guy picks it up he says she levin's attacking the president i give my opinion i don't attack the president and the people in this audience not but if anybody knows who chris manahan is go ahead and post go online seriously go on x m-e-n-a-h-a-n his first name is chris just pause it for a second take a look at this dude this guy chris has like 75 000 followers but it's like dude mark levitt is literally going on his radio show and asking for backup because he's losing a twitter battle and none of his audience even knows what twitter is like none of the like where would i go where is it is it near the post office i'll come right down mark like it's a dude he's losing his mind he's calling this kid a brown shirt for like posting clips of his show and then saying he's obsessed he's he calls him an obsessed stalker because he tweets about him a lot like dude you have a show on fox news you're an advocate of a war that's very unpopular but he's a stalker because he posts about you online didn't stalker mean like showing up at your house and stuff like that rob calling you on your phone anyway just just completely devoid of substance just mad that a little account is ratioing him on twitter all right now we're going to get to the juicy part all right here comes here here we go mark this site obviously don't become a follower but look at what he posts there and respond to because it is day in and day out day in and day out this is a very sick bastard sometimes i wonder is this going to be the guy that tries to attack or something like that he's clearly trying to encourage people to commit acts of violence he's clearly got a pause here yeah yeah yeah this is where it jumps and this is the exact problem that i've been hollering about when the government gets to decide who's a terrorist or what actions that are words are then perceived as violence this is what the issue was with uh biden when he talked about the issue of the government's decision to make a decision to make a decision to make a about domestic terrorism or when they were flirting with censoring us off the internet for dissenting on covid is that you can't it is i mean you want to talk about things that will ruin the country and ruin freedom it is pretending that people exercising their free speech are engaging in violence and mark levin is doing it is in the most reprehensible and kind of aggressive way he knows that this is not a call to violence and so to claim that someone who's taking issue with you by just highlighting perspectives that you've stated online is an act of violence because what you're doing is so horrible you don't want more people to see it or hear it or shine a spotlight on it this is it's not even his speech criticizing you it's the guy highlighting your own speech and the fact that you see that as violence i mean that that that's the end of freedom when you start labeling things like this as violence there is an old uh debate that happened between a woke college student and jonathan height um i believe it was at nyu um and it's a i think the girl was like part asian or something like that but she was like the head of some woke students organization and she's debating jonathan height about microaggressions or something like that that was all the rage about 10 years ago and at one point jonathan height is just destroying her in the debate and at one point she literally stops and accuses him of violence of doing violence to her and her people that's what woke leftists do they accuse your advice just to be clear here and i want to by the way everybody go follow uh go follow chris it's at uh info lib news uh on twitter but i just just to give people like a sense i'm saying his latest tweet was about this about mark levin crashing out on me i'm just going through his twitter here and try to like read some of the tweets i followed this guy i know what he tweets about to some degree or another all right here was his uh tweet from earlier today megan kelly and emily jachansky reacting to the clip below marvel at mark levin's dishonesty uh here's the quote 170 dead girls in iran uh does that count as a war kelly asks and by the way 21 dead americans jachansky notes like these are the type of things he's sharing oh his next tweet watch the full segment here with a link to megan kelly's full segment this is the do violence guy uh talking about the violence of this here's another uh tweet from his neocon john putter it's in netanyahu advice and he's like oh my god i don't know what to do with this guys are say blah blah blah they talk about how the war is a testing ground israel's wars are a testing ground for u.s weaponry these are his tweets they're all anti-violence they're all anti the government doing this here's a clip of ben shapiro who many are calling the jim kramer of political predictions playing a bunch of ben shapiro's terrible predictions this is this guy's account mark levin takes that and goes he's probably the next violent guy like brob this isn't even something like where you can this to be clear this isn't like a james comey he said 86 what does that mean there's nothing he's not even pointing to a thing that's vaguely a threat just i don't like the guy so he's a violent brown shirt that's mark levin ain't that something rob yeah constitutional conservative conservative really cares about free speech in this country what uh you're not allowed to criticize mark levin because if you are then that your speech words or posts are actually a call to violence yeah and that's why and that's why like i just hate it there is something that that while it can be an interesting academic exercise there does seem to be something that feels awfully disingenuous about the whole debate like with uh um coleman hughes for example when he's arguing over the term israel lobby and you go well if they're not lobbying with money and i said okay israel firsters and he goes fine israel firsters you're like look the point is just like as you said rob it's such a good example levin would in any other circumstance call himself a constitutional conservative in any other circumstance not be a little female leftists but israel trumps all of that because israel is always the most important issue and so whoever's against israel or israel's latest war is the nazi the person who must be demonized in the most vicious unforgiving way like it's just so transparent you want to pretend you don't see that fine pretend women could be linebackers or something i don't know it's right in front of everyone's faces and for a growing percentage of us we're not going to pretend we don't see it um let's keep playing good tour but his name is chris manahan m-e-n-a-h-a-n go check him out on x and you'll see exactly what i'm talking about it is constant constant constant i'm not responding to him anymore i'm just gonna let him sit there dude you just did him the greatest favorite dude i messaged him earlier today and i i said listen you just may have caused the greatest mark levin crash out of all time and many great men could live 10 lifetimes and never hope to achieve something like this uh this is like the greatest moment for remember you're sending people to go look at his stuff and now claiming you're gonna here's the thing dude you can either ignore someone or you can't you can't do a whole segment on your show and then go and i'm ignoring you now you just gave him free promotion let's keep playing if you like as well i just thought you'd want to know because it is you know it is this propaganda campaign the russians teach how to do it the old kgb and he's probably an op for one of those oh sure even enough for iran pause it pause it dude why not what else i think i think he killed nicole in that waiter i don't know what do you think okc bombing in the 90s i bet he did that too let's just add shit he's an op he's a brown shirt who works for the russians who's doing violence on behalf translation he tweeted critical things about mark levin he disagrees with your most corrupt war policy all right guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is crowd health falls here and that means you gotta hear about crowd health it's time to start next year off strong and get your health care for under a hundred dollars a month you've heard me rave about crowd health in the past and particularly about the black swan membership the health care alternative for those who want autonomy over their care their costs and their lifestyle for 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health is not insurance opt out take your power back this is how we win join crowd health dot com promo code p o t p all right let's get back in the show yeah and this is uh i mean this flirts with being legitimately dangerous luckily mark levin does not have a problem with it he's got a problem with it he's got a problem with it he's got a problem enough power, but it's clear that he would be comfortable being totalitarian. I mean, the idea that you can go, hey, someone's criticizing a policy and the only reason why anyone would be criticizing a policy or effectively criticizing a policy would be if they are actually working for a foreign government. And so therefore this person is engaging in violence at the behest of another government and they need to be round up or, or, and prosecuted. This is supposed to be free speech. Well, that's right. Because like, look, dude, if someone was a foreign spy or if someone is violent or if someone is a brown shirt, well, like, you know, So, I mean, not for just being a brown shirt, but like brown shirt with the implication that you're out in the street doing violence. That's what the brown shirts were. They weren't just random passive Nazi supporters. Right, Rob? So, like, yeah, if you were doing any of those things, then the appropriate response is violence to you, defensive violence. But that's right. There is something to that. And yeah, it is. I mean, just the height of, you know, if ever there were rhetoric that is reckless, it is this. If ever there was rhetoric that is hateful, it is this. And if ever there was rhetoric that is just plain stupid, it was this. Like, can't we just stop at one accusation? I remember there was one time, I'm sure this happened a bunch of times, there was one time someone called me a racist Nazi on Twitter. And I did always find that to be funny, that they thought they needed to use the descriptor racist on top of Nazi, as if Nazi doesn't already cover that. But I just love when they just throw all these things together. You know, he's a brown shirt, he's a foreigner. He's the next lone wolf. How about pick one of those things, since they're all different things. All right, let's keep playing. It's okay to disagree with me, and it's not okay to twist what I say and to do it ten times a day. The rule of thumb is, don't talk about people like this. But in his case, I want to expose him. How do you spell that guy's name again? I want to expose him, I want you to go see him, and I want you. You know that his audience is so tech-illiterate, they're going to accidentally be following this guy. Dude, oh yes, you are quite literally exposing him to more people. But like, I don't know how it hurts to just go, hey, go look at what this guy's saying. Like, even for Mark Levin's crowd, look, this is a tactic Mark Levin doesn't usually use. That's how you know he's so heated. That's why he's working to be so calm. He's normally more angry. But like, dude, Mark Levin is supposed to know that the whole way this game works is you smear us, but they don't get to hear our side of it. That's the only reason why boomers are on your side. Everyone else has the option of listening to you too, but they, I mean, we have such a better argument that who could be dumb enough to believe you. So like, go send them to look at this guy. What are they going to be expecting? Like a ton of Nazi violence? That's violent shit at this point, right? What are they going to find? He shares the full Megyn Kelly show after sharing a clip with the radical Emily Jajinski. Like what? What are we talking about? Yeah, it's anyway, the, you know, Mark Levin is just, I mean, I don't know. It's like the most childish, unhinged, just call him a bunch of names and then say I exposed him. Here, let's keep playing. m-e-n-a-h-a-m manum h-a-n chris manum he's sort of a gobles like figure you know tell a big line keep telling it so he's learned a lot from gobles he's a gobles like figure uh he probably walks around with a white sheet and brown shirts and boots and clothes his heels dude just pause it i mean dude dude just like like just the intellectual shallowness of the insults he he's like gerbil so he probably walks around with the white hood and a black shirt and a brown shirt so he's a branch he's a nazi who wears a white like the clan and the nazis weren't different things it's just like rob just like smorgasbord of evil just like all the bad things it's it's literally sounds like almost like um like when my five-year-old is like playing a game by himself you know what i mean like like like like like it could be like a you know it's a it's a planet ghost you know it's like a dinosaur grizzly bear like just kind of combining two badass things that i like and so let's i mean what is this she's a brown shirt in a white hood well first of all sir the nazis had far better fashion than that okay nazis aren't mixing those outfits together clansmen are like backward hillbilly like you know burning a cross on your yard in in birmingham alabama the nazis were like the most um like advanced society in the world again they're all bad for their own reasons man but like what is this and and by the way what gets what gets you lumped in because this guy dude i'm telling you i follow him it's not even like he's talking about like a a racialist or something like that it's like what makes you a klansman nazi being anti-war being out being against a really stupid war because as we all know that was the greatest crimes that the nazis and klansmen or the nazi klansmen they did join together rob you may have missed that chapter in history they joined they combined their outfits and unleashed their evil on the world um but uh yeah they were um i i don't know the nazis and the clansmen yeah i don't know they did some bad stuff they were also different groups also by the way uh rob i'm quite certain the nazis would have looked down on the clan i i don't think the nazis would have uh looked at white southerners in america and gone ah yes the racial purity of the aryans that we envisioned somehow um anyway you know they had a real problem with serbs okay anyway um what else can you say rob uh mark levin's an idiot and he's uh calling for violence against us go check out the run your mouth podcast and portstore.com a lot of dates coming at you and uh guys looking forward to skank fest please come say hi it's one of the thrills is uh walking around and having all the fans come say hello so looking forward to seeing all you out here hell yeah dude hope to always meet a lot of cool people and have a lot of fun at the festival dude so really looking forward to that see you guys uh this weekend all right peace