Marshawn Lynch | Club Random with Bill Maher

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Not as cool. No beast, not going to come out, right? No, no, no, no, no, I'm chilling. If it is, I can send you to the Ice Recruiting Station. No, no, no, no. You could join them. You got goddamn Jumanji on the way through here, so shit. What? You got Jumanji outside. What's that mean? The fucking jungle. Oh, you mean land? Is that what it is? Yeah, this is the land. Land case, it's garbage. It's the only thing worth fighting for. What's dying for? Yeah, yeah. God damn awesome. Oh, fuck. So, this is your weed line? Yeah, yeah. How's it going? Everybody's in the weed business. Everybody's in the podcast business. Everybody's just doing every fucking day. You know what? It's hard to like, you know, separate yourself. Well, exactly. Right. You know what, man? I mean, it's. It's not at all. Cracked out to what it is. Oh, yeah. To me by the worst. But do you make money on that? Well, I'm in a process, isn't it? In the process. Trying to put that on your credit card. We in the process. Yeah, I'm paying with it. Trying to get a loan, huh? No. God damn. When you were in the NFL, were you known as a pot smoker? Yeah. Yeah, we get now shit. I mean, I've been in that program. I don't know what. For a full time. So, what program? So, they got a drug program. Oh. That they'll put you. That they'll put you in, man. I thought you meant a program that sent you drugs. It's not like a weed at the month club. Because I was in that program. Well, I mean, we had one of those two, but. I mean, that was more underground. But you know, you know, who really paid the price in the NFL was Ricky Williams, right? Well, it was definitely. Do you know what it is? I said, "Well, definitely." He was somebody I looked up to, too. In fact, we'd do something tomorrow. Did you. We didn't play at the same time, though. He was retired before you started or around the world. Oh, I do overlap? You know, I want to show you what we did. Really? Come, I don't have to look and see what's in here. He actually retired, but I don't know how it came in. Because he was kind of. I always felt he was kind of the, uh, curt flood of pot. Because like, he, you know, stepped out and said, "You know, I have injuries as we all do, and the shit that the team wants me on, the pharmaceutical shit, doesn't work, fucks me up." The pot, um, you know, helps me. Helps me, that shouldn't have to have asked another question. What works for you? This works. You know, he also had terrible anxiety problems. Every Sunday, he thought a bunch of guys were chasing him. Oh, shit. And when he ran, you would believe him. Um, but now. I think it's something where he said, uh, on the college. Yeah, I mean, smoke this first, uh, he said he smoked his first joint. And when he ran for like, 300 yards or some crazy shit like that. Right, so that became his thing. Well, you know, different drugs just work differently for different people. And, uh, fun. It's just, it's crazy that they, um, it's been so many decades, like, just trying to get that one lesson. Now, of course, some of it was mixed up with using the drug war for their own different reasons. Top of the list, racist. You know, there was the Chinese with the opium. And then, obviously, with African Americans and the difference between. I don't know where I read something that they flirted trying to listen with the opium. Who was it? That was in the 19th century. That was the opium war. You know, that's when the British had it. And they floured it trying to work this year. Yeah, they was, I think, I mean. I don't really know that, you know, before my time of shit. But I think I remember hearing something about that. Oh, well, it was definitely before your time and my time and all time, except for people who were aware of it. It was 1840. It was definitely before our time. Quite a bit. Yeah. The opium deer. What? I thought you was up there. The opium wars, you know. The British, you know, this was the age of colonization. And the European powers were on every continent. I mean, they did. The French and the British carved up Africa. It's interesting, the British conquered North to South. Okay. And off the continent, with the continent of Africa, from Egypt all the way down to South Africa, although they had to fight the Dutch for that. They had to fight other people who were stealing it. And then the French conquered East to West. So they went from, you know, other Britain had Nigeria, I think. But they went from all those West African nations from where the slave trade left from, you know, Ghana. And all the way East and the two superpowers at the time met at Cartoon in 1859. It was like, we're going this way and we're going this way. And boy, that was the battle. And they slunched them off. They sliced them on the fucker up. Is that just like white people M.O.? I said, they're just like white people M.O.? That is not white people M.O. That is human M.O. You think, I ain't ever hear about no Africans. Well, then just because you didn't hear about it, it doesn't really do that. As far as I'm telling you. And I'm telling you, all right. It was a movie out the woman king, I think, last year. Or a couple of years ago. And that was an empire built. I think it was DeHomi, which it was a name. I think maybe a different name. But that was some of those names of change. But that was the name of an African country. And they was in Africa, right? Yes. I'm talking about the white people when they go to places and they just take, take, take, take, supery, take, take. Yeah, that's, they're not. I just want to say this sort of like they M.O. And I'm telling you, that's an erroneous thought. I'm telling you that. That is not the truth. All peoples do that. The Japanese were the worst. They're not white people when they invaded China. Genghis Khan, there is nobody who was more of a motherfucker than Genghis Khan. And who gathered this slave from the interior of Africa? Not the white people. They're not the. They are the most. What? I said they benefited the most from him. Okay, but what I'm saying is, humans are not good people. You know what you've got to do with them. It's not just the white people. But I. That's right. Even from me, shit. But it's not just the M.O. Where would they. What is it called, a system? Yeah. Some fucked-up shit. And how it worked? Here, yes. For sure. But in other parts of the world, I mean, the word slave comes from Slav. Well, me, I'm talking about like. From like. I don't. Were you saying that African King and brought that out to one man? Yes, yeah, that was a kingdom based on slavery. And the people in Slav. Most of history. Africans went and did they shit on another continent? Yes. We're trying to know that Africans went into a story. I'm saying that people generally did not have slaves based on race simply for the fact that they didn't move far enough from where their origin was. So they would enslave other people who looked like them sometimes. Yeah, you know. It wasn't about race. It was about, "If I can make you my bitch, I will." It is. How long has it been with that? Yes, that's apparently human nature for a long time. I mean, you know, who had slaves? The Bible. Everybody in the Bible. And neither Jesus nor his dad, God, ever said a bad word about it. They never said, "Don't do it." That shit, not right. It's not right that that's what the Bible says. But I'm not incorrect in pointing that out. I mean, look, you can go into it and look at it like that. But where is right is right? Where is wrong is wrong. Exactly. Depending on how you view it. Well, I mean, that's where you get the good people in a bad people's realm. Okay, but the fact is, neither Jesus nor God in the Bible condemn slavery. They make laws about it. But the laws never say, "Don't do it." it's a terrible thing to do. They just say things like. Well, if one man kills your slave, you are allowed to kill his slave. You know, it's a very perfunctory like that. They are -- It never occurs because the Bible is written by men, of course, not gods. It never occurs to them to actually say, "This is wrong." Hey, we've got this 10 commandment list. 10 things you really shouldn't do. I say we put that on the list. Nobody ever said that. But if somebody like me did it, man, you could fuck all hell to pay for. What do you mean if somebody did what? Like somebody black. I wouldn't -- Like, when we're doing it, if you're saying that, black people have slaves in Africa. All people, when Arabs, everybody -- Yeah, they do, too. If some of them do today, still. They're essentially slave situations going on in the world today, or, I mean, I guess they call them indentured servants or whatever, but it's so close as hardly worth making the distinction. I mean, humans are not good people. No, they're not. They're not. I mean, shit. It's fair. I mean, you know, you just look around what's going on in the world right now. Sorry about the -- Like, shit. I mean, it's like, how do you even think? And then it's like, you get so much shit where individuals are so sensitive, then you can't speak to shit. And if you say something or speak out of something, and I was just looking at some of you just talking about the cancel culture and all that shit, like -- Yeah. -- but it's just like, it's so fucked up. So, it's your thing you bring that up. Michelle Tukula here? This is Tukula. No, I mean, this is the one you're drinking. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was just giving you a cheap dinner. Oh, good. Great to have you, brother. Yeah, man. Yeah. Really good to see you. I have to tell you, when you're on real time, we got such good feedback from it. You know who emailed me and said, "That football player was great." I loved him, you know who did that? Barbara Streisand. Is that right? I'm -- I -- Shit. I shit you not. Who was that football player? He was great. That's crazy, yeah. Well, I mean, that's -- That's why this was so easy. And I mean, I know he was trying to get me before, but I wasn't moving around now. But you got a big thing, though. Individuals like you. Like you, that -- It was -- It's another co-nan. Um. Um, Will or Nick. Individuals that don't have this, that -- that call, that I'm going to answer for, like, no matter what. Because when y'all bring me on y'all, uh. y'all platforms and give me that opportunity. And there's no judgment. That shit is not as long as it happens in reverse. And I don't feel judged, you know, really. You can't do it to me either. And you're not. And you don't mind, right, when I, uh, you know, quote some of my book learning, 'cause I was a history major, right? Okay. You don't mind, right? I mean, I love it when somebody tells me, hips me to something, you know, if it hasn't crossed my radar, and lots of stuff doesn't cross my radar. Honestly. That kind of stuff does. I mean, that's sort of what more would I do for a living. But, I mean, on the cancel culture thing, it's funny, because, remember when Demore Hamlin got hurt in that game? Okay. When he -- when he passed away? He did not pass away. Well, they said he died on a field. But he didn't. He didn't? He's playing now. Well, he came back to life, though. He came back. We didn't get it. Oh, fuck it. Undertaker. He died and came back. Okay. I mean, we're splitting hairs. I don't think anyone ever comes back to life. I think you get very near where, you know, the ref calls it. But, I mean, plainly, he was down for the count, shall we say? Like a motherfucker. Like a motherfucker. Exactly. That was the medical -- Yeah. Okay. But here's the thing. I remember talking about it soon after. It was early on, and when I started doing this podcast. So I was like -- when I started this, I was like, you know what, I have a job on real time on HBO. That's my -- I don't have time to, like, do anything so come here get high. By the way, I have a New Year's resolution, because, you know, I'm 70 and six days. Congratulations. Back for a living, right? Yeah. And it's worth it, congratulations, just to make it. A lot of people don't. You're damn right. To Marhamlin almost didn't -- I'm telling you. Okay. But -- What you call the splitting hairs? So my New Year's resolution, because, like, I think smoking, you know, is -- And I go back and forth with the smoking, eating this, bad things about eating it, but, like, it's better for your lungs, but my New Year's resolution eat more pot. Yeah. So -- Like the edible? So, yeah. So now I'm doing edible, so I may not actually smoke. But anyway, so I was here early times, and I was just thinking, okay, I don't want to get involved with the business end of it. So if somebody said something, I just went along. And we had a discussion with Bob Costas, the famous sportscaster, about this to Marhamlin. Okay. And after I was like, oh, we can't -- we can't air that. It's too -- too controversial. I was like, really? Okay. Fine. I'm not going to argue. I should have argued. And then I put it in my book, and, of course, nobody said anything. And my point of view was -- I had a lot to say about that, Demar Hamlin, thing where they canceled the game. I don't think they should have canceled the game. And that was, at the time, so controversial, how can you say we shouldn't have canceled the game? What do you think? I think we should have canceled the game. Yeah. Why? And so many instances, right? And that's crazy as fuck. Oh, yeah. That's crazy as fuck. And I just tell somebody just out of deck where I've seen individuals in practice, they'll go down, they get hurt, and they'll turn the field. And we'll practice going the other way. And sometimes those are career-ending injuries, and a lot of individuals have that. So the severity of what had happened with Demar when that shit happened, like, was something that we have never seen in our game. Yeah, we have. And for -- people have died on football fields, well, good, not good like that, but not good. At this point, at this point, good that they stop the game because there's so many -- Well, stop the game. They show -- But they show no, no, no DCC. And it's almost human the way that the NFL, when it comes to such shit like that. And I'm saying that from being a player. Okay. Let me see if I can convince you with my argument. Number one, very bad logic here. Everyone said after it happened, the most important thing is Demar Howman's life. The game is not important. Correct. No one's arguing with that. Here's where you have bad logic come into it. What difference does it make to his life, which again is the most important thing if we play the game? He's already in the ambulance on the way to the hospital or at the hospital. We're not asking him to suit up again. I mean, how could it actually affect his life if we played the game? If the surgeons doing the work on him be distracted, they have been watching the game out of the corner of my eye, I swear to God, no, it wouldn't -- one doesn't affect the other. And what about the fans, the fans, who spent all that year -- this was an important game, as to a placement in the playoffs. It was a game that had to be played, but it wasn't played. And all these people in Buffalo and was at Cincinnati, these working class towns, who this is their whole life. A lot of them is the team and how the team's going to do. They sweat with them all year. They sweat with them when they fucking have a losing season. Now they're in it. And they, you know, what it takes to get out to the stadium in the cold babysitters, money, blah, blah, blah, parking. And you're just going to send them home with a ticket stub because one guy got hurt as we all see in football all the time, and it doesn't matter if he's at the hospital and we play the game. Now, argue with that. They're humanity. That's what they leave with. Not a ticket stub. It's not humanity. Yeah, it is. Why is it humanity? Because I mean, why is it? You desensitize to the shit going on. And especially now, I'm just speaking personally for me. I remember my first NFL game. I drafted the Buffalo in 2007, and the very first kickoff of my regular season, I kept me happy. It was going down on a kickoff, got hit, and he land there lifeless now. From what they tell us on the satellite, it'll be paralyzed from the neck now. They brought out a stretcher for the ice to put in body on ice. I'm a first hit in the NFL, and I'm like, just what I'm going to look for to for it. I don't know how long I'm going to play. Sign up for that, all the shit is in the bag. Why? Why I'm saying it was so big that they did that look at the humanity and that decision to do that. I think that made a lot of sense for NFL fans around the world, because just hearing the optics of that somebody just died on the field and then I just think, oh, got him up, now get back to that. - Yeah, now get back to the game, which again, for all these fans came out to the stadium and rearranged their life, and it's such an important game. And again, if we had to sacrifice one for the other, it's like, well, if we play the game, there's less like a chance that Demar Hamlin will look. No, I had nothing to do with it. You know who got this? Him. When they woke him up, the first thing he said was, "How am I?" It's, "Did we win?" Those were his first words. - No, you didn't, Demar, because they didn't play the game, because you're living stupid land. - The last thing that he, not stupid land, the last thing that he remembered was that he was on a field. If he remembered that, but the thing is, I know when I call, I never spoke about this. But I reached out to the family, wow. Yeah, I mean, in the hospital. Because, like I said, I've been to that point where I've seen two of my teammates on the field and lifeless, carried out on the stretcher. And I said, "Kevin, everything, Demar, record a locket." And record a locket. I actually took the fine, stayed in Dallas, and went to the hospital to see him. When he come to, after his surgery and everything, well, thank you, I appreciate you being here because of how you was here for the support. I'm not sure, after the game, how many individuals actually went over there to see him. But that alone, that's the humanity, and the decency that I'm talking about within the people. If it's all about just a game and the show must continue, the show must continue. The show must continue. Exactly, before them to do that, that was a big, fucking moment to show that, you know what I mean? Human life was bigger than all the hoop-lopper. It is, the show biz, and everything. The one is denying it's bigger. It's just saying, this is football. Football's a sport that we love because, first of all, you know, the hypocrisy of this, if they really cared about people getting hurt and football, they wouldn't cancel the game, they canceled the sport. Well, it's not every game, or something like that, huh? Ah, yes it is, every single game. It's not every game, motherfuckin' around the field. I swear to God, not to that degree. So that's what I'm saying. Every single game you see, you know, and so down, oh, and the answers get sort of quiet and they go, we'll step aside. That's their big saying to tell you, oh, I would just scrape the bodies off and now I word from National Insurance, and we'll step aside. - Yeah, then you talk about it. - But that's maybe a spring ankle. - Oh, you know what? - I twist my leg. - I've seen one thing. - I've seen one that I couldn't even stand to look at on the replay. But you can stand to say, keep the game going after you just see a motherfuckin' collapse. - Every game. - It's just football. - It's football. - We play in the ring. - No. - We play in the snow. - Come on. - This game-- - Now I think you trolling me. - I am not trolling you. - Did you spit in my drink, you fucker? - Hey, we need another motherfuckin' kelp, man. - That's all right. - That's all right. - It's my bad big belt. - That's all right. - I don't hear the one. - No, no, I got you. - But no, I think you trolling me now. - I mean, I trolling you. - No, no, no. - That's already barbaric as fuck. So like I said, for them to show the, the, the, I'ma call it the support for that young man when that shit happened. - That shit is big. - That shit was huge for the sport. - Yeah, we all supported him. We're no one is unsupporting him. It is, we're not disrespecting him. We're, you could make an argument. This is respecting him. This is what he loved to do. This is the game he played with his team. He's, everybody has to sacrifice for, again, no real actual reason. That would actually affect his health. But let's get off this. We're obviously never going to agree. But I didn't understand. - You know what I'm saying, right. - They, just to refresh your memory, it wasn't like, immediately they thought they were going to play. They sent the players into the locker room to get their heads together. The plan was, we go back out and play. So it wasn't a fate of complicity. - The bill was rescheduled. - No, but they first thought, let's, you know, let's just give the players a minute. But then they saw some of them crying on the sidelines. By the way, there's no-- - And they were at lies. - Oh shit. - No crying. - There's no crying in football. - Somebody who made that call must have remembered. Oh shit. I'm a human. I got a fucking heart in here. I got some decency about myself, you know what? I'm a fan. - Let's reschedule this shit and come back. - My name is Roy G. Anybody. And I live in Cincinnati. And I came out to see this game. I work over at the Canning Plant. You know, I sit on a pickle barrel 12 hours a day and I put this little screw in the top of this bottle all day long. And my wife, she doesn't fuck me anymore and my kids hate me. And I love the Bengals. - And that's Mary life. - You don't get no policy, my wife. - She-- - Wait. - Well, I see this conversation has taken quite a turn. - No, no, go ahead, Roy. Tell me about it. - No, no. - Roy. - Hey, Roy. - I'm saying, I heard you. - You're my wife. - You're my wife. I live and breed the Bengals or the Bills or whatever. And thank God I don't live and breed the Jets 'cause they're just, oh my gosh. - Shit, you might have wanted him to cancel the season. - Why? (laughs) - Why is it, by the way, that some teams never seem to be able to get their shit together? Is that from the top? It must be, right? - I mean, but I don't know if it's like, sometimes I believe they're okay with that. - They're okay with losing. - We're being shitty. - 'Cause it's cheaper. - I mean, I bet I think it's cheaper. It's almost like, shit, the check don't clear. I mean, we gonna give the hope and our press conference to make it seem like we really try to do nothing and then, you really don't like, you know where, you gonna clear what, I think like a billion, where every franchise is gonna clear a billion anyway? - Like I'm gonna make my money regardless. - That is certainly part of the problem. There is no incentive for the New York football team to ever put a good product on the field because every game will sell out, it is New York and the population and the history and blah, blah, blah, and they only play once a week. It's not a hard thing to sell and hope springs eternal. So even if you suck this year, it's not like they don't try. They just seem, I don't know. New York teams just seem to-- - And it's hard to say, 'cause it's like, I don't think players actually go out there like, I'ma just be, I'ma just be class, right? Nah, but as a whole, like, you know, I've been in organizations where, you know, it's like, she'd just come to work and they're not actually, you know, organizations like, hey, I'm glad y'all are here today and you can feel the difference. - Like, which was which? - See, I'd always good. - Yeah, and when I was in, I mean, when I was in Oakland, that was just more like, I'm home. So I mean, you know, I don't even know if I was really processing or thinking, but, you know, I got to build a relationship with Mark and it was outside of-- - Mark Davis? - Yeah, outside of anything. - You know, they're doing a movie about him now. - The Madden movie? - What? - The Madden movie? - Yeah, I mean it. - You're in it? - Yeah. - Why don't you say that for now or don't you? - You're in the Madden movie. - I just, I mean, you know, I'd just be doing shit, really. - Right. - You know, it wasn't nothing that was-- - Yeah, I mean, but then when I was at Buffalo and where we was at, it was like, you know, motherfucker, you know, I'm watching coaches, backdoor, other coaches and-- - Yeah, I mean-- - Wait, wait, wait, what's that mean? - Like, backdoor? - Yeah, like, the coach was, you know what I mean? - He was more of like a player coach and then, and the difference of coordinator was like, you know-- - All around. - And here, there's some shady shit to him, man. When he got fired and they named the defensive, I mean, the decordinator as the end of him had coach, it was like, I finally got his ass up out of here, yes. Like, this is my shit. And when you, when you went up, or in an organization like that, with individuals who really don't got no love for everybody within a organization, there you can. - It can't be successful. - Between the backbiting and the crying during the game, the NFL's a lot gator than I saw it. (laughing) - There's some gay shit going on in that motherfucker. - And shit, I ain't-- - Really, man. - Like, gay, gay? - No, you know how he's like the figure's face. - I ain't like the figure's face. - Like Eminem used to say, yeah, I'm tough to explain to myself. I don't mean gay, gay, I mean, gay, gay. - Oh my God. - Well, you funny as shit. - Oh good, I'm glad you're enjoying yourself. - You is one funny motherfucker. - Next time you're here, you may end strison. That's, we're gonna, like-- - I can meet her. - Chop it up. She liked you. I mean, I mean, it's possible. - I mean, that's time, yeah, that wouldn't be better. - I think we might have to go out to her. I don't know, but she's busy and, you know, a superstar and we're just us. But, you know, it could happen. - You know what, I'm gonna have a shot for it and she's fine. - You should, that deserves it. And what do you got there? The Hennessy going? - Yeah, I got a little hang over here. - Is that what you started with and you stuck with? - Yeah, you're loyal to that. - Don't know why, don't know why. - Well, you know, like when you're in your 20s-- - Oh, that's right, everybody does that thing. - It may not seem like that. - But like when you're in your 20s, like you're searching for so many things in life, but one of the things is you're liquor. You know, when I was in my 20s, I had no fixed drink. Which is I was like, you know, and then at some point it was like, "Okay, I'm a Jack Daniels drinker." And then I switched to tequila because it's a little healthier. - Okay. - A little healthier. - Yeah. - You're a garbage. - What? - A garbage. - What's that? - And a tequila. - Oh, a garbage, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I mean, it's all poison. But, you know, there's poison in there's poison in there. - You pick your boy. - You pick your boy. Exactly. I picked a different poison. - Okay. - And maybe it's just bullshit. But, no, I think, I think Jack's a little heavier. I think it's probably a little more sugar, a little more, I don't know, brown liquor is, I mean, it's, she, it's the greatest, isn't it? - She is. - But, you know, people love, the people love, like Scotch, I hate. - Yeah. - But people love, no, I just hate those cows. It's just a terrible, terrible taste, I don't get it. But people love vodka, you know, vodka's, I mean, fuck on the vodka. - No, Jen, no. - I think I'll try Tangeray. - So, Janet, juice, and that shit didn't end well. My uncle, who was birthday, we fucked now, we're Jen and juice, eh? - Jen and juice. - Oh, going up everywhere, fuck now, yes. - Well, I know the song. - Mm-hmm. - Now, fill me in on the history. Um, what, what, what, it, what, it's Jen and juice? - Mm-hmm. - I mean, what kind of juice? - And that kind of juice, eh? - And that kind of juice, uh, oh, shit. - Are you spilling your shit too? - No, no, I just, I know. - They used to make this Daffy Duck orange juice. I can't remember the fucking name. - That's a drug. It was orange juice, I can't be right. - And they had Daffy Duck on the, on the bottle. My uncle used to drink this shit out of this. Rest in peace. But she used to, I'm talking about, take that shit to the neck, baby. God, damn. - This is family? - Yeah. So real shit, I was like, God, damn. I don't know how she drink that nasty. - Was there addiction in your family? - Addiction? I mean, my daddy was a dope thing. - Well, that might count. - Yeah. - Yeah, I mean, a dope fiend, I would say, isn't it? - Yeah, I'm a crack, baby. You feel me? That's, I think that's-- - You are? - Yeah, I think that's more where the beast, the beast moshier with account file. - You think it, uh, was affected you even as, and then probably does? - Who are you? - Of course. Sure. - Yeah. I mean, whatever goes through the mouth. - Hell is strong than a motherfucker. - What? - I say, I was hell is strong than a motherfucker. - Right. - I think it gets superpowers and shit like. - But, you, so when you say dope, you mean caroid? - Crack. - Crack? - Yeah. - You call, you call crack dope? I guess anything can be dope. - Right. - Yeah, I even, uh-huh. - Sometimes talk, talk about pot like it's dope. - Yeah, we call it dirty dope. - I mean-- - Yeah, I mean-- - I mean, that you-- - You like that you could abuse our car dope. - Yeah. - But I mean dope. - But you've been alive. - But you, uh, you don't seem like you've ever had a problem. - No, I ain't got no, like am I addict? - Yeah, like, well, I mean, like people, I make the joke, you know, I, that I've been smoking pot 50 years, I'm not addicted. I, you know, I am addicted. - And I am not. - You were dope things for some reason. - Oh, I-- - No, no, no. - But I want to take the difference. I know what it's like to have an addiction because I smoked, and there was a small time when I did cocaine. - Those drugs-- - Is it really? - You want to do a little, add a little bacon so you would have had you some crack. - Right. Exactly. - You know what I mean? - Well, I'm glad I didn't try that. But, uh, here's the difference. - Very productive. - What? - You'd be very productive. - I was very productive. - Were you ever seen a crack here? - I mean, I, I did speed in college, and I was very productive. - Shit. - I also remember doing it once. - I don't know if you just fucking would be right now. - Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Very productive. How could you not be? - Okay. - I mean, we got the real thing. For some reason, in Cornell and Ethic and New York, it was like a hub for, like, the best at the time. I mean, we're talking about the mid-70s, okay? But there were crystal bends, crystal meth, and I never had a drug like this. Like, you would snore one line. It would destroy, you would be so painful in the nose, and then you would be high for 12 hours, and couldn't sleep for two days. From, like, one line. It was, that shit was awesome, but there was a downside to it. How'd it come down with it? - Oh, my God. But drugs like that, no, not speed. That never, I mean, once you recovered from that, you didn't want to face it again for months, and then, of course, you did. But, like, cigarettes and even coke, like, they would call to me, do me. They're asking me, the cigarette, especially, was like, "Smoke me now." I never had that with pot. I could not smoke pot for a week, and I never even think about it. If I'm not doing something where I want to be high, like living, no, I'm kidding. - So that, that, that program, I'll tell you what, so when I got put in that program, my first time, I remember just coming to training camp, and I couldn't, I couldn't blow no dope, so I'm like, fuck. And I mean, like, the first week of training camp, I mean, I was having withdrawals, coasts, wet, my mother fucking stomach was in knots, all kind of shit, and I couldn't believe that shit. - Oh, this is fun for me. - Just fucking home. - You're killing me now. I was gonna have, oh my, my new year's resolution is gonna be in the last a day. - So this is, oh, look at that. So, this is just flowering here, then I can, what form do you smoke it in? You smoke it in a bong, do you smoke what? - In a wood. - In a, in a joint, a backwood or a phantom leaf? - A one? - A backwood. - What's a backwood? Sounds, sounds, sounds like, sounds like an insult, if you get canceled for, can you backwood? - Slow down, man. - He slowed him a backwood? - Yeah. - I never heard backwood. - You come around my party, you be all right, cause I'm by a backwood, unless they smoke jays or. - This comes from, I'm lighting this for you, purely. This comes from this right over there, we grow it. - You grow the old doughtop? - Absolutely, sir. - I mean, you got an operation here, man. - Yeah, I'm loving it. - Well, I mean, not for salar, I think it's just their one plant. I mean, it's all like I have a bunch of naked women, like, in the movies, where they're like. - Who is shit? I've been in this bathroom. - Oh yeah, that's a doll. That's Whitney Cummings. - Man, that shit scared no fuck out of me. - I know. - I already had to take a shit, but then when I went that down on the own seat and almost shitting on myself, but that shit was scared to fuck out of me, though. - You took a shit here? - Yeah, I shitting your tongue. - Oh, lord. - We family, though, man. - We are now. - We family now. - Cause that must be your lunga shit. - I'm telling you, don't be scared to shit out of me, I ain't had no choice, other one. - Oh my god, that I would cancel the game. - Oh, man, I would cancel the game with that shit. - No real shit, man, but god damn, that's some dope in it. You got a lot of. - Just doing this for you. - That's it? - Yeah. - See, that's a nice leaf right here, too. - But, yeah, this is. - Yeah, okay, okay. - This is nice stuff. - Nice, uh, now, how do you, how do you strike upon this logo? - This is beast. - Right? - No. - Cause it looks beast-y. - No, that's not beast-y. - Oh no, like I said, that'd be right, yeah. - Oh, what's happening? - What's dirty, man? - So, let me, you know, between me and my cousins, what we used to call, what you call it, pot. - Yeah, pot. - Yes. - In the suburbs, where us lame white people are, we call it pot. - But no, we just, you friend me with some. - Yeah. - Followed up that dirty road, that dirty dump. - Yeah, I'm telling you, some of that pot. - No, that's me, some of that dirty. - Fellow. - That's my cousin name, too, fellow. - No, I promise, and you know where he would come, he would, he would allow to do this right now. - His name is fellow, fellow. - That's kind of a cool name. - And he would have said, hey, pass me that dope, fellow. Well, fellow passed me the dope, well, that's, that's, that's weird. - That's, yeah, that's some spooky shit right there, man. - No, I mean, you want your shit. - You really want your shit, I see it. - Well, you're not going to start a big fight about that much, John. I am definitely on my shit, but sometimes, you know, coincidence is, and I am, of course, I mean, the place is called Club Random. It's not called Club Kids Matter, Club Fade, or Club Religious. It's Club Random. I am a person who believes things are random. That's, you know, just me. - Even this situation here? - No, we arrange this. I mean, no, I mean more philosophically, like lots of people see patterns in things that I think are coincidental. I didn't always see it that way, but I do now, but I don't know. Sometimes things do happen that are very weird, and it's very hard to explain. I'm not going to say that I know everything. I did a movie that is, you know, it's, be honest, an anti-religious movie called Religious, but even in that, I say that I preach the gospel of I don't know. I don't preach the gospel of, like, there is definitely no God. It doesn't matter to me if there is, or not. I'll never know. It doesn't and seem like there is, and if there is, he's a weird dude who, like, he has no sense of justice, you know, everything seems random anyway. So maybe there is, maybe there is, it just doesn't matter to me. That's-- - So what about your belief? - That is, I just told you what my belief was. - That is my matter. - That is my matter. - What? - That it don't matter? - That it don't, well, behavior matters, ethics matter. How I behave matters, yes. What do I believe is behind that? No, because I'll never know. And you have to be a good person just for the sake of it. You have to just accept that a priori, that I am a good person or I wanna be that way. You can just a bit by saying, well, it benefits the community, which it does. But ultimately, it just has to be on you. And, you know, a lot of that is just how you were raised, you know? And-- - But again, that's a crap shoe too, because I know people who've had the worst backgrounds and they turn out to be the most solid individuals. And then I know people who are very fortunate, upbringing, and they're just pieces of shit. - Yeah. - So when did you or how did you, you take that and then turn that into entertainment? 'Cause I mean, you are entertainment. - Oh, I would like to think so. - I just-- - You think so? - I just lost a golden globe. Of course I'm an entertainer. - Oh, I mean, shit. - What's on a person who just loses a golden globe, along with his 33 Emmy losses, isn't an entertainer, of course. - I mean, losing don't. - No. - And don't define him on the face. - Well, I still-- - Or not winning. - For sure. - It's not, I've said this on other podcasts, but it's not losing because unlike what you do for a living, it's just someone's an opinion. When the Seattle Seahawks won the Super Bowl, it wasn't someone's opinion that they wanted. You wanted-- - Right. - That's a huge difference. They talk about you won, that they didn't win it. You won the opinion of a bunch of people who were predisposed to think like you're a well-cast. That ain't me. So, you know-- - That ain't me. - I don't want it to be me. I'm free to talk however I want. That means more than any award. You got down right. And that's why I was talking about the cancer culture, but from-- you say you was a historian. - Well, I said I was a history major. - A history major. - A history major. - Ain't that a historian? They're saying, they ain't the same shit. - No, no, a historian is someone who does it for a living and does it on a level way beyond where I am. I'm just-- - I'm like an amateur historian. - Okay. - It's my interest. It was my major in college. I like history, I have a-- I can talk to a historian. I can't do what a historian does. I can't write a tone on the American revolution, although I could tell you things about it. That's not a historian, but it's just an interest. - No, it's not. - And I'm not ever not perplexed why people aren't more interested in history because it's the story of people and it's always so fascinating. The way they really acted, you know, you don't have to make this shit up. Crazy shit went on. - So how was your history? 'Cause when you talk about it, my history wasn't like that. What do you mean? - Like when I was learning that shit in my school, like, what did they teach? - Shit, I don't-- - Oh, fuck history. (laughs) - Not like that, but I mean, my history was just like, like, I would say like bare minimum. - Oh, yeah, what's his name? - Christopher Columbus came here and he discovered America. - Well, there was some black slaves. - You know, you, you, yeah. - Yeah, again, there are a few-- - It was fucked up. - From the picture that they painted of individuals that I seen in our history books that look like Luke is not a good picture. - It's not a good picture. And that's absolutely true. White people did horrible things. That's not all they did, and they're not the only ones who did it. - But I'm saying for the history that they was teaching one. - Absolutely. - When I was in a school. - Absolutely. - It was fun. - But, fuck though. - But shit. - But again, like they-- - This is believed that I'm really not shit based off of what was in these history books and what. We had, so I'm like, why the fuck would I be interested in you making me learn about why I'm not shit? - Let's just take one example. - I'm a spade to white people. - Oh, spade. - I don't want it. - Okay, well, I like spade. - I like spade. - I'm a fuck around in the beans. - Okay, but it was very nice to me. - Okay, so spade, right? Okay, these are white Europeans. Okay, they come to America. Obviously, they mix in with the native population. That's why it was-- - You were going to say Indians, huh? - Well, native-- - Well, yeah. - They really had to say Indians. - Why not? What's wrong with Indians? - I don't know. I've seen it, you've seen it. - Well, because Indians usually think of America. I mean, they were Indians. But they were the Indians of Central and South America. So that's why the Spanish is spoken in all these places. But like the Spaniards, they were as cruel as it got. And for example, Haiti has a large black population because the Spaniards killed so much of the native population they had to import people from Africa as slaves because they killed all the workers who were like indigenous. Again, humans not go-- - They were from Haiti. They came from Spain, came over there, cleaned up shop, and Dan went to another shop and brought some different kind of people in and put them under the same conditions. - Well, the French got into Haiti at some point. (laughing) And they fucked it up even unto the-- - In fact, Keller Mike was talking about this on my left show of the season. Have the French-- - You said Keller Mike? - Keller Mike, you know-- - Oh, yeah, that didn't again. He was official, I fucked with big gun. - He mad at him. - I love him, you said. - That's a great phrase. Are you kidding? - Hell yeah. - He chucked me into the blue flame. - See? - Well, I'm talking damn. Maybe I need to tap in with him. - And you definitely do. - Was it a hell of ass cheeks in that waterfall? - It was so ridiculous. It was like a cartilla. - Ridiculous. - Rid, to me, really. - I went a good way. - Not in a good way. - It was hell out. - That was ass, it was bad. - It was just, you know what? People have different ideas of beauty and people have, we are all allowed to have like, you know, when you order in a restaurant, I like it rare and you like it well done, whatever. - I like it damn right. - Okay, me too. - So, like, I've never bit what? (laughing) What we're shaking on that. - Okay, great. So, I just, I've been in the spirit clubs. I just was never to one like that, where it was so exaggerated. The, I mean, the bulbousness of the buttocks, sometimes matched by a voluptuousness of the Chestrel region. - Titties. - Yes, I think. - Titties. - Titties. - Oh my god. - Titties. - You sound like you was in a real hit. - I wasn't ready for it at all. - I was, I was completely ready for it. It was literally over my head. - Mm-hmm. (laughing) - I couldn't. - No, I mean, and of course, you know, Mike breaks his records there sometimes, you know. You know, it's much more, it's a strip club. Strip clubs have morphed sort of into after hours places. You know, it's like, I mean, Mike's wife came with this. It wasn't like some sort of like 90s strip club kind of seen, it was, it was cool. - It's a vibe. - It's a vibe, exactly. - And, you know, he would get a stack of ones and they throw the money in the air. I've never been to make a ring. - I do not like doing that. I think it's called. - You did, though. - I did not. - You did try. - I did not. - Thank you so much. - What I did was sit with the one girl there who did not have the body like that. She was very nice. - You got so sweet, but. - Not flat, not flat, sir. - Not flat. - Not flat, but not like of-- - But was the booty row 10? - No, you sound white. Was the booty row 10? - Yeah, you would be a corner. - And now that's it. - Okay. She was a very attractive girl. It's okay. Anyway, I calmly sat there and asked her, you know, they're very aggressive, the young lady. - Yeah, they don't come close from ass cheeks in a circle. - And you had to get with them. - Yeah, I was like, please, let's just sit first. And no singles in the air. I would just tip her with $100 bills. She seemed to think that was okay. - Oh, you sound like the perfect trick. - Exactly. - Oh, oh. Also, it was loving you, Dan. - It was fine. And that's it. - Yeah. - I tip everybody big, like not just strippers. I took the waiters and valet people. It's one of the nice things about having money. You can tip in 50s and hundreds. And people were, you know what, people really like getting free money. I don't know what it is about it, but it really goes over big. - It do? - And it makes me feel good too. - All right. - So, like, no, did I participate, perhaps when in Rome, did I act like a Roman, I apparently did not. - But that's okay. I was true to myself. - All right. - I did a strip club the way I do it, you know? - So tuition was paid, probably car, no. - No, no, it was, no. It was a few hundred dollars, but in hundreds, She didn't have to crawl on the ground and get it in dirty clothes. That was my point. That's what I don't like. -It's for the presentation. -I don't like that. Making people get on the ground. -You're not making nobody do nothing. -Well, you are. If they want the money, they have to get on the ground and pick up dirty singles. -No, no, they don't have to. -They don't have somebody. -They don't have somebody to come through with a push brush and a bag and they have scooped their shit out for them. -All right. Here, I got a question for you. -It's a process. -Say you do the thing where you make it rain. -You do the thing. -Wait a second. You'd make it rain. The strippers are all there picking up their dirty singles and one of them has a terrible heart attack right there. -Do you stop closing the strippers? -You know they close and they motherfuckers. I don't think they should. -Take this from them. -Take the stripper out. -Put a banana in a tank. -If you were in that strip club and the ambulance came and they took the stripper out, wouldn't you be like, "Okay, well, what can I do now? Why should we go home? We're here. We're queer. We're drunk. We're on the road. -We got all those. We need the checks here. They need to make a living. -You know you want to stay. -Fuck no. -Everybody. We being gone. But the queer, what's that mean? -Huh? -Oh, that's just the saying. You know, remember the-- -No, you'll know. -No, no, I don't get it. -I don't. I don't do it. -I would have been good. Once I seen the motherfucker fall out, I'd have got the fuck up and I would have cut. I don't stick around for shit like that. -No, and then you start getting questioned this shit in. -You know how that go. -Why? -Oh, no, you didn't do it. -You right. And I wouldn't be there to find out what the fuck we're going on. You get the fuck on the part of them situation. -Are you-- are you-- -When you got-- -Do you have a family? -Like kids and shit? -Yeah, that said, would be, y'all. -No, no kids. -Oh, look at us. Look at us, no kids. That's very rare. -Are you ready? -Man, I-- I've seen a lot coming up. -Wow. I've seen a lot coming up. -Seeing a lot of kids? -Hell, yeah. -Hell, yeah. -Oh, yeah. -Many family dog like that. -But, uh, Barry-- -Bang, I wasn't-- -Shit like that. -Get married? -No, I'm-- -Don't marry. Like me. Look at us. Look at us. -Free man. -Free man. -You know what? -What? -That's exactly what it is. -Right. -We-- but I-- you feel me, like, when that time come, for sure. -What time comes? -For the kids and all that. -Oh, you do want it someday. -Really? -Mm-hmm. -Well, you put it out. -I-- I've seen, like, a lot of-- like, I've seen a lot of shit, like, real early coming up. -Like-- -Like, realistically, like, that shit fucked up my mind. -Right. -Yeah. -Like, you know, I've seen a lot of my family members have. -Whoo. -Have kids early. -Yeah, it's too early. -Yeah, and that shit did not-- -Kids having kids. -It didn't-- it didn't-- but the thing is, I'm not a kid now. But now it's just more so you feel me going my position, finding the right shit. -And then we could get there. -Well, you know, when a man gets married, as-- this is my observation, obviously, I've been done it personally. But it-- it seems to me who they choose is not always who the outside world thinks they're going to choose. Because what they're mostly looking for is someone who is not going to kill their child. Like, if I leave you along with this child, don't kill it. -Mm-hmm. -That's, like, you know-- -Yeah, I mean, yeah. -Do I know? -Like, that should be, like, automatic, right? It should be, but, like, phew, but, like, some-- I've certainly had enough girls call me up and my old girlfriend and so forth. They're like, uh, why, uh, I'm married. Like, like, I'm prettier than she is. Yeah, but you might kill the kid. That's why, you know, get your shit together. Like, should I get another boob drop? No, your boobs are big now. What are you talking about? The reason why you're not married isn't because your boobs aren't even bigger. Read a book. It's an insecure shit or something. I mean, you know, like, do what you do to make yourself feel, you know, appreciated in it. -What do you do? -What do you do for that? What do you do to make yourself feel appreciated? -You said what I do? -You said it. I do things that I appreciate doing. -Like? -Like, for one, I don't-- I'm not like, uh, I'm up at all weird times and shit. -Me too. -I really appreciate sleep. -Yeah, me too. -You know, I-- I get to the point where it's like just a simple thing. What do you-- where do your my edge? You'll appreciate it even more because it gets a little harder. You know, I appreciate very simple things. Sit down and have a, uh, a good-ass meal to sit down and have a good-ass conversation with somebody with-- you feel me don't know, intent this genuine conversation, like, things like that. -I'm sitting right here. -No, that's what I say. In the time you called a, "Hey, what's up, big dog? I'm a kid of poop." And I'm a function with you. You feel me because, especially in a sense, that a position now-- -No, it's amazing with all the talk that's out there. I mean, it's a million podcasts, blah, blah, blah. I don't see a lot of real conversation like this. I really don't. I'm not putting anybody down. I'm just saying, it looks-- it just always looks more like an interview. And this is never going to be an interview. I mean, you're lucky if you get me sober for even a minute. And I don't want to be. I mean, if I could-- I mean, I remember when I was first smoking pot and first getting high. I remember thinking often, like, why couldn't God, I guess I still believe in God? -Why couldn't God? -They're not. -The truth is that you have just-- Why couldn't He have just made the pot air so that we were always-- I always felt this good. -Oh, my wife-- -Why didn't you say anything? -What's the deal with-- I have to, like, smoke something to feel this good. Why can't you just make it that way? -Well, I'm gonna tell you, like, if you want that, then you probably need to go highlight my credit and fill out. And it'll be, like, the air is pot. 'Cause my money's smoked like a chimney. You know what I'm talking about? Like, I know a lot of people, like, snoop. -Yeah. -Low it down type shit. -Yes. -But I don't know. I think fail to give him a round for money. -Yeah. -Money. -No, snoop is one of them. I mean, there are other-- there are even some white dudes who did that, Willie Nelson, Paul McCartney. I think at one point-- I think recently, but I think at one point, he was the kind of dude who just smoked all day long. I mean, people who, like, buy it and use it in ounces. I was never that guy. A little dabble do you, for me, like-- -A dab? -A little dab. -Oh, you're talking about a-- -No, not like a-- -A little dabble do you-- -That dab shit is blue. -No, that was an old advertising slogan. -Okay. -For a shit that you put in your hair, a little dabble do you? -All right. -So-- -Educate. -Yeah. -Because I thought a dab, would you put that shit in there? And you hit that motherfucker hand? -No. -Dad? -No. -Dad shit is-- -But-- -I never thought-- -I never thought that after you get basically hyped for the first time, you get a lot higher by continuing to smoke. If you did, you know, I would do it. But I just feel like it's almost just the ritual of it. -Yeah. -And it's probably worse for your lungs with very little, you know, upside for your brain. I could be wrong, and everybody's different. -Well, you've been smoking, you've been about to touch 70, so-- -Yes, I've been smoking. -You be eyeing. -I'm very proud of the fact that I've been smoking for a half a century. -Yeah. -You know, I know. -And it's probably made you a better person. -Oh, it definitely made me a richer one. -Well, she is. -I mean, it's just as far as the creativity. As far as the creativity goes, we'd be doing this in a two-bedroom apartment in Van Nijs if I hadn't smoked pot, I think, you know. Well, then, you sound like you got some of that ivory. You ever seen the movie "How High"? -Movie what? -How high. -How high? -Yeah, we're red-man and met them. -Oh, I think so, yeah. -Yeah, see. They have some meat on the ivory. And when you smoke the ivory, you're family, you get high, and you see ivory. And then he helped your auditors and shit, and then you get eggs and hover. -Okay, I didn't understand any of that. -That's all right. -What is ivory? -What do you mean, ivory? -Avery was the weed. They homeboy had died. He got ivory's the name of the strand of string. -Right. -It was the name of the weed. -And they smoked the ivory. -And it was exceptional. -Oh, my God. Well, I'm telling you. They smoked the ivory. And ivory would appear. -Y'all mean? -No. -Yeah. -What do you mean, a peer? -A peer, like, he right here. I mean, you smoke the ivory right now. And here go ivory right here. -What's the ivory? -Oh, ivory. -I thought it was the weed. -Yeah. -But that's like how you get from smoking ivory. -What do you mean he's right there? -He would have owned it. -Who, I've recon? -Avery? -Avery? -Avery. -Avery, though. -You got to see the movie. -Oh, I see. It's a character in the movie. -Yeah, you got to see the movie. -Okay. -So, hold on. You smoke an ivory strand. -No. We were smoking May. -Yeah, I know. -That ain't ivory. -This is ivory. -It's good, don't you? -It's good. -And I can't talk much. -I can't talk much. I can guarantee it's pure. -No, that's a good note. -You know, I can guarantee that it's not filled with chemicals, pesticides. - You grew up the right way. - I grew up the right way. - Yes, that's very important to me. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - A good, clean high. - You gotta watch how high I know. - What? - I say you gotta watch how high. - I will, how high? - Yeah. - That's the name of it. - Okay, I will dial it up on Ferango and Fer-- - Fer-dango. - What is it? - Ferango, is that what it was? It used to be voodoo. - It's the only service I have that always works. It's amazing, like everything else fucking, like shuts me off for no good reason. Like, is that happening? - You're an internet service? - Well, like, you know, like Amazon, like all the streaming services, like, oh, sorry, I'm like, what, I didn't do anything. You know, what they're doing is they're just trying to prevent people from, I guess, you know, scamming it. Whatever, they make you restart it with your, with your past code and all that bullshit. - Oh, I don't know what my fucking past code was for getting into Amazon or whatever, you know. - They say that shit. So you got, I think it might be, oh, oh, oh, oh, cry. Well, it's definitely on, uh, Fer-dango at home, or whatever, I can't, or I can't figure out what the fucking place is. - Oh, shit. - But that one, that one, that one never fucking locks me out. It's just like, it's just the way it always should be. Whatever I want, I just look, oh, there it is. And then, oh, would you like it? Yes, success. Nobody ever like fucking bugs me, nags me. Like every other device. - So did they fucking car all of you? - Did they give you a nags way? - Where is it logging? - What happened? - Fer-dango, did they give you? - No, they did, maybe years ago, I'm saying they've ever since. They've just like, good, you're good. We got your credit card and you're good. And everybody else is like, oh, prove it again. - Straight ahead. - It's been three months, prove it again. You didn't order anything this week. Are you still you? Yes, I am. I just want tube socks. You've fallen at them. - Just let me in. - Assholes. - I want to check the sea of you apart. - Exactly, that too. - Put them in numbers. - That too. Told you everybody does this. - All right, now it's on your side. You have to get it. Come on, you're a professional athlete. How are you going to be? - You shit, I want you struggle putting that motherfucker on me. - Right, well, don't put it on your head. They'll think you're drunk. - No, I don't. - I'm out of the thing going right on time. - You miss playing? You miss being a professional athlete? - No, man, I had it. - It must be. - A good career while I'm trying. - And also, you miss always being pain. Come on, if I don't work out the years. - No, I mean, when you're playing, you can't like have all these rough men like hitting you 40 times a game and not be fucking in pain the next day. Come on. - No, I mean, you know, like you was talking about it's a part of the game, but I mean, you've got to process that. You've got to work doing what you're to make sure you can get to the next week. - But you didn't live on like Tylenol and shit like that, and all Advil and stuff, too. - No, I don't. - Yeah, well, I mean, that certainly is the narrative often when you see players or even see them portrayed in movies like North Dallas 40. You must have seen that. Never saw North Dallas 40. Okay, it's the first and best football movie ever. You have to see it. - No, I don't. - Well, see it. North Dallas 40. And then what about North Dallas 40? - North Dallas 40. It's about a football team. It's awesome. Nick Nalti, Mac Davis. - When did this come out? - 70s. - Oh, okay, yeah. - It doesn't mean it's bad. - No, I'm just dead. - You don't like it. - I'm telling you. - Oh, gee, gee. - Just remember, they were doing it first. And then Oliver Stone, the director, may have had any given Sunday in 1999. You saw that one? - Mm-hmm. - You did. - Here we are. - Yeah. - That's the one where I remember Jamie Foxx and-- - Remember the times, doesn't it? - L.O. Cool J, I think. - No. - Both of them. - Any given Sunday? - Well, they were both in the movie. - And one Sunday. - Punch the other in the face on the set. - That's any given Sunday. - Remember the times as we-- - Oh, it's good. That's good, too. That's Al Pacino. Cameron Diaz has the team owner, the daughter of the team owner, whatever. Jamie Foxx is great. It's good. You should, you never saw that one either? - Yeah. - Okay. - Yeah, I watched North Dallas 40. I didn't go check that one. North Dallas 40. - Yes, it's really good. - I know they in the back of the year. I'm gonna tell them when I get it back. - Everything they did in any given Sunday, they had already done in North Dallas 40, about how they make the players get back on the field when they really shouldn't be giving the pain, pain killers and shit. - Yeah. - That whole expose of what it takes to get on the field and that is where they really did it first. - I mean, it's a process. - It's a process like a motherfucker. - I mean, in that one. - You see though, you got to think they're like, as a game got, as a game evolved. There was more, I think they found one that it's like, - Yes. - With the massage, you got the hyperburet. - Absolutely. - I'm trying with a chiro, the ice bath, the sinus thing. - Yup. - With the massage, acupuncture. - Yup. - And the team worked. - The upper knee stretches. - Yes. - Chirod practically all kind of shit. So I mean, you know. - Right. - You manipulate the body to feel better. - But yeah, I mean. - Still the human body with human limitations. - Yeah, you right. But the mind is a powerful motherfucking thing. - Well, that's always-- - And then get to mind over matter in certain situations. - What you're talking about elite athletes and you certainly were that a Hall of Fame player. - Oh shit. - What? You can't just go around throwing shit. You know what? This is Club Random for Show. You just don't answer it. - What? - You know, what you said? - I said, you know, you were in an elite athlete a Hall of Fame player. - See, I just probably needed you to say that twice. - Oh, okay. - All right. - When I want to see that kind of shit. - Well, no one would really just speak back. - No, I'll just say it though. - But, you know, it is always about the mental edge. - Yeah, sure. - I mean, even the most gifted physical players are not that much more gifted than the level right behind them. I mean, was Michael Jordan gifted? Of course he was physically. But it was the mental edge. You know, there is a mental component. Same thing with tennis players. They say if you watched the top 200 players in the world just in practice, you could never tell who the champs are and who the also ranz are. It's something in the game. Jokovic and people like that. It just will not lose. And that's the difference. It is mental. They're conscientious in the 70s and the visuals. It, I mean, you know what it is. 'Cause I mean, you ain't got to be a little off. - What? 'Cause I mean, you know what I mean? - That'd be a little off to the ending grade. - You're right. You're right. I like that. - You know? - So I mean, when you get an individual that I like that and then they can put the physical attributes behind it. You get a dangerous person. But using the mind though is so fucking powerful. And I mean, I wish I would have known that earlier, especially in my career. Because I mean, you know, I just like all hard work and I'm be able to be, you know, if I do this, I should be right on time. I should be good. But then when I incorporated the mental aspect of what I was actually doing and I thought about it and when I broke it down, that should turn into, like, you know what I mean, how individuals say, "You plan chess." I mean, you plan checkers and I'm plan chess. That's what the game turned into for me. Where I was playing chess against individuals who was playing, uh, checkers. - And what's the difference? What's the turning point? Where, where, what, like give me a specific moment, like any game and what you did that illustrates that. Like, I know, like, I've heard defensive guys say, like, I will notice something early in the game that a guy, a weakness. And I won't use it until, like, two minutes left in the game when it's key. - Yeah. - And then I will take advantage of that. Is that what you're talking about? - That's, like, most definitely. But I had Ray Lewis, my rookie year. He told me, "I know every time." "I know what you're doing every time you finish doing it." Whether you're going off for a pass, if it's a wrong play, if you're running right, if you're going to left, no matter what. And I'm like, "What the fuck, like, you know, I ain't want to pay no attention to it, 'cause I'm playing against him." And I'm thinking he trying to be on some jet out on my trick type shit. So, you know what I mean? - Forget to the line of strength. Look, we get to the line of strength. And then if we want to, look, if we run and write, he'll call that shit out. And I'm like, "Man, what the fuck is going on?" Like, "The fuck is going on?" What you mean by that? Like, "Yeah, you know, if it's a wrong play, you'll come up." No, if it's a wrong play, you'll back up. If it's a pass play, you'll come up. And I'm like, "What you mean, like, if it's a pass play, you want to be able to get to the, if it's a blitzer, want to get to them." - Let's call it a tell. - So, in poker. - Right? He was reading your tells. if we line up on the set. And if it's a rye, I want to be a little further away, just in case I would have caught it back and catch the ball, and if it's a fuck-bump snap, he'll have time to recover to be able to put it where he need to put it, so I can get a proper hand off. So when he tell me these things, I'm like, "What the fuck?" I'm like, "Well, what the fuck? How do you beat that?" And I mean, it took me some weeks, and I'm like, "Damn, what the fuck?" And then it just hit me like, "Oh, shit." It's simple. Do the same thing every time, so they can't get a read on what the fuck you're doing. So now I find a happy medium between them, too. Or what you could do is know that they are knowing that you're giving the tell to this way, and then at the key moment in the game, do it, and they'll think you're doing it, and then do the opposite. Well, in the offense, you can't move. Like I said, don't do it that way. No, no, no, you have to get set. I know, but whatever the little tell was, you could purposely outfox them. But that's why you make everything look the exact same. Now they're guessing. Right. So now, on offense, I'm reacting. But you're reacting to me. But if I convince you that I'm finna go outside, you got a response to that. And then when I hit that motherfucker down here, because you know you can't let me get outside of you, you know, over pursue every time. And then I'm coming right down here. So did you, like when most of your battles with Ray Lewis, or what would you say, a draw? I don't remember the games that closely. No. I mean, I remember the games, and I mean, you do. Yes. You do? I know. I remember every-- See Hawk Ravens game. But I mean, 2008, I mean, he told me this when I was in Buffalo, I was a young ass motherfucker. You feel I was young to the game. So trying to process what this man given me, it's like, you know, he fucking levels in advance to where I'm at. I'm just trying to-- He was one of the greatest. You fit. I mean, there was that unpleasantness in Atlanta. I don't know what happened that night, but, you know, people-- who knows? It just-- it was unpleasant. You live-- I'll tell you what did piss me off. You live learning-- There was a girl. There was a place-cooker named Justin Turner, I think. You know this guy? I don't know. And he was accused, I think, and don't quote me on this if I'm wrong, but I think this is the guy-- I trust that time. --place-cooker was accused of inappropriate sexual advances by ten different misogds Now, I can accept that with a quarterback, but a place kicker. - Oh, you, while in like a motherfucker. - Come on. Not a place kicker. You just can. He can't do this shit. - Come on, man. - You just slow down on my end of business, man. - I'm sorry, but that's how I feel about it. - Why do you feel that way? - I do, because please, please. - And the trainers, please, and the motherfuckers, they've been doing all kind of shit that's going on. I will say you-- - Oh, you say it because he a kicker? - Correct. - Oh shit. - Okay, that-- - Oh, you, while in dog. Oh, you random as fuck. You said his name wrong, Tudo. - No, I think it is Justin Turner. - No. - Yeah, we gonna leave it at Justin Turner, man, 'cause we know that allegedly-- - Absolutely allegedly. - Okay. - And 10, I mean, any 10 people. - Oh, well, you say the same thing, just go into that layer, it's a completely alleged thing. But I'm saying-- - You know they kind of get a bush here. I mean, like I was saying, and you'll feel-- - Yeah, that should be like something that come up there. - What are you saying about my feelings? - I don't know, man, y'all be motherfuckers. - It might just be freaky or something. - Might be. - Pretty motherfuckin' definitely. I mean, nobody gets to be 70 and never marries without being a little freaky. I mean, you know, I mean-- - And you like the strip club too? - Well, I seem to be retired from that. - Did you make them at least tell them to stand up and make their booty clap? - No, I did not. - That's a fucking talent, bro. You gotta see the booty clap. - Okay, people-- - They could do it without moving their waist. - Yes, and they can also like light candles out of their pussy or something. It doesn't mean I want to see that or in the pro-country. - What happened? - I said, that might be out the country. - Yes, you're right, that's Tijuana. - That might be-- - Yeah, that was Tijuana. - That was Tijuana, and a donkey was involved. - And a donkey, and a donkey sh-- - As an account. - That's some-- - Wow, shit. - Okay, you've been-- - I know, you've been down here. - The donkey was an assistant, okay, but just looking at that. - That was some, wow, shit. - But you don't go to the strip club? - Random. - How do you think I know they make that booty clap? - No, I mean, I still-- - No, I'm still-- - And don't wiggle it. - How old are you? - I'm 39. - 39? - Oh, for fuck's sake. Jesus Christ, you know, even 40? - No, I'm trying to-- I'm working on getting there. - Get out of here. - I'm working on getting there. - You're working on getting there? - Yeah, that's why I tell you congratulations, man. - Yeah. - You know what, I like being 70, apart from like slight drawbacks, like you'll be dead lots sooner. Slight drawbacks like that. - It is-- - Man, you don't live hell of whites. - Well, again, let's not put that in the past tense. That's the whole point, like-- - You live in hell of whites. - Exactly, right, let's not put the hell out in the past. This is what we don't want, okay? This is what we don't want at 70, okay? We want to think we are in media's rest. We want to think we are in the middle of things, all right? - In the middle of what? - In the middle of my life. - Come on, my boy. - No, but like, so you're delusional? - No, I'm not delusional. I just signed a new three-year deal. I have three years deal. I can't die. I'm contracted. Okay? (laughing) So, like, that's the middle of things. - Oh, top of your game, just lost another reward. So, like-- - Just like all my other-- - Where about this? - I'm not worried about it at all. In fact, I'm like, humble-breaking about it. - Oh, that's a flicks. - Yeah, exactly, exactly. And, you know, again-- - The Golden Globes? - Yeah, what you, what you was up for? - My comedy special, my last comedy special. - Okay. - Yeah. - What, Ron Kugler got? What do you got? - He centers. - Yeah, he from my hometown, though. - I, the guy plays all the great music in that movie. - I saw him play at a party, like a pre-glob's party. He played-- - Is there right? - Yeah, unbelievable, so fantastic. - They was playing some shit out of some music in there, too. - Yeah. - They wouldn't let the white people in the house know. - Where's this? - In the center. - They wouldn't let the white people in. - Mm-hmm. - They wouldn't let the ass in the house. - Yeah. - He had to invite. It was the most respectful white people I ever say. They waited for you to invite them in. And if you didn't, they didn't come in. Ain't that crazy? 'Cause usually they just kick the motherfucking doughy and they just do whatever they want to do. - I mean, what's crazy is that for so many centuries, the least important thing about a person, their color, has been so influential in history and the way people act and the way people what people do. And it's just amazing how dumb humans are, you know? I was watching this movie the other night and it's very funny. It's about this high-powered woman who's captured by these two idiots who thinks she's an alien. They just, 'cause they read the internet. - Well, movie is this. - It's called Bugonia. - Bugonia? - Yeah. - Yeah, Emily Stone. I'm sure she's your favorite. And it's just like all we could think is like there's so many fucking crazy people who are running around. Like how does the world even just stay going? Like this, it just seems like there's so many nut cases. - The indecency of the people that will say the game should keep going when the motherfucker died in there. - Really? - You're bringing back to the eye. - No, but I'm saying that that's how I, 'cause I mean like, I don't wake up in the morning like, yeah, let me see how many days I, I mean, how many people I could fuck over and how much shit I could, you know what I mean? Like damn, when I wake up, you know what I mean? Am I, am I like damn? You feel me though, I thank the Lord for another day, you feel what I'm saying? And I'm blessed to get up on my journey too, you know, becoming 40 and I'm like, all right, what I'm, what I'm gonna go do and try to conquer the day like, you feel me, I haven't been told so many times like, you can't do that. Or, no, don't, don't wear that. That's why you're here like that. Why you wear your clothes like that? You know what I mean? I don't tell you that. You're seriously who? Who in this day and age is to me? telling you how to dress and what's it? - Jeff Tiffert told me this. - Who's the fuck is that? - That was my college coach. - Okay, well, he's some sort of old-school dick who doesn't matter to anybody who's so old-school. - And what, he doesn't like you wearing your hair like that? - No, he would question me about it. - In when you were playing for him? - Yeah. - Why? - You know what? - That's a good point. - Did he think it was because you would be more effective on the field with shorter hair? - Well, I mean, I don't know. But I know I was doing what I needed to do. - Did you wear your hair like that in the game? - I can't change this shit, it's like this. Would you say, I just put it-- - Well, you could have some natural juices and berries on this motherfucker and I don't know. - No, you could have had any hair style. That was 20 years ago. You could have-- - Oh, you mean back then that I-- - Yeah, yeah. - I had your husband. - You could have had a fade. - I had a fr-- - You know what, I had a fr-- - You could have had like a kid in play thing. - You could have had that much hair. - I had a nappy throat when he was axing me this. On my way to this. - Yeah, I mean, but-- - What's the stuff? Malcolm X was talked about having to put in his hair. - A prime? - Like a, like this hot wax. - That you said some hot wax. - Like back in the day that they would put in-- - That is some gel. - To straighten hair because-- - Yeah, a prime. - You know, to a pee on the press. - Yeah, yeah. - You know what I mean, prime? - No, I'm not-- - Just show me a key. - Get your shit right. Get your shit straight. - I'm joking about it. - No, no, no, no, no. - I've learned one thing. - But don't talk to black folks about hair. It's like-- - No, don't touch all our hair. - It's like my-- - You can get it with Muslims. Just don't go there. - You could talk to me about my hair. - Just don't put your hands in my shit. - Why would I do that? - You would be surprised at how many motherfuckers come up and be like, "Oh, your hair is something." Like, "Well, the fuck if you don't get your hands on my motherfucking hair." - Yeah, but you don't mind it when it's a hot girl doing it, right? - I mean, it depends. - Okay. - Come on. - 'Cause if it's on some shit, like, not invited, Dan, we start getting into some other situations. Really? So if a beautiful girl came up to you, I'ma be like, "Yeah, you should." - I'ma be like, "Yeah, you should." - And be like, "Yeah, no, maybe I should." - And massage it like this. - No, I am. But yeah, don't come up, just touching my motherfucking hair. - I don't like to be touched by strangers, either. - Yeah, that's not a. - No. - No, hey, I'm off. Back your shit up. - Okay. - When we rock 'em, but it happens, though. Like, if I came up to you, like on your slick back, like. - Well, because I think I have a slick back. - That's not a slick back? - I don't know. I don't know. - What was that other thing you said that sounded like a porn? - No, no, the thing about wood back or. - Backwards, backwards, backwards. That could be a good name for me. A fake name I'm throwing right need a fake ID. I'm one of those streaming services. - No, slick back fake ones. - That's right there. - Slick back, slick back, slick back fake ones. - Slick back, back wood. - Oh, backwards. - Backward, backwards. - See, man, I don't know, man, you be trolling like a motherfucker, not trolling. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You know what, I don't want you like a motherfucker, though. You got me wrong. I am just always. Bill Novice accused me of that always over the years. People who don't get it, that I'm, you know, he's just a contrarian. He's not a contrarian. He's saying, I'm not being a contrarian with Demar Hamlet. I really believe that, and I really think I've got a great case for it that I made. I do. All your cases just emotional. - No, it's not emotional. - It is, mine's logical, mine's logical, and more for the people, you know. - The people to what? - The people, like the people who came to the stands, the people watching at home. - Everybody, except for one guy who's fine, he's fine. He's in the hospital. - Who is that fuck? - I mean, it's just selfish. It's so selfish to cancel that whole game. - So who was selfish? 'Cause Demar didn't cancel the game? - Exactly, so who wouldn't have wanted to? - But who did? - The fucking Pussies. - What Pussies? - The Pussies who run the NFL. The Pussies who run, they usually fuck over the Bronx. - Whoever CBS or Fox, whoever, who are going to run the game. - I'm talking about the game. - Exactly. These Pussies who were afraid of letters saying, oh, yeah, and instead of going, you know what? We respect and blah, blah, blah. - But we, they could have said exactly what I said. They could have said, you know what? We're doing this for the fans who all year long wait for this game, and it's an important game. And we knew Demar was okay. So we played the game in honor of them and in honor of him, okay. - When you get in the car. - When you get in a situation in a position like that. And you know what, which way is going to go? - He's in the hospital. - I was talking about for the fan. And you don't know how to go react. - I mean, you know what? - I don't know. - If we can find somewhere that could let us know the poll on that, do you believe from the fans? - Well, first of all, I don't go by polling. - I'm saying for the five, I understand. That's the whole thing. - Okay. - Glow, shit, and don't win and all the other shit. I'm following you, big dog. And the thing is, I kind of agree with you on that shit too. You know, I played the joke about the whole thing. - That was perfect though. - No, it was perfect. - I'm gonna fuck with you. - Where I told you, I'm ready. - Ah, that's how I look tight. - But Demar saying, but Demar saying, I love the way the Golden Globes cut back into that. But that is so fun. - It does not touch you so much more. - No, no, it really isn't. That's why I'm laughing my ass off. It's so funny the way you said that you connected it. You're on a very profound level, you're right. But I'm, look, okay, we won't argue about this anymore. - But I can't believe you really do feel that way though. - Damn. - Plainly. - And I'm right. - That's right. - Plainly. - And it's okay that people feel the other way. - That was me, but feel that I did that situation. - I'll just say one more thing. - That they stopped the game and rescheduled it to give. Which is, I do also remember watching the fans file out and the looks on their faces. And the looks on their face, I swear to God, was, okay, yeah, I guess we're the asshole if we object to this, but fuck. - He's fine, or he's gonna be fine, or he's not. - That's what you mean, we can do about it because he's in an ambulance or at the hospital. And we're leaving this game that we planned our whole fucking year for. - I think they would tell you that they face. - That's what they would say. - Damn, I can't believe I put all of this, all of this thought process and break down playoffs and what this mean and all that over a human life, for a game that can be rescheduled. - A game? - Well, it wasn't rescheduled. - They didn't reschedule that game? - No, they couldn't. It was the dawn of, it was the, they were on the doorstep to make the playoffs. - Yes. - Now I gotta go do my homework. - Yes. - To see that game. - And even if it wasn't, fuck it. That's a game. - That's okay. - How many other games was played that day? - I understand. - It wasn't in that city and in that stadium. You know what friendship is? It's vehemently disagreeing about anything and still having exact same affection for the person. So, let me see. - I got that free. - I got that free. - Oh, yeah, it's a, yeah. - You know, I got one. - You don't really believe that shit. It's a heart and now I felt that motherfucker being, you know what I mean? That was for good, what is called content or whatever though. I'm gonna release you back into the wild. - I'm gonna go out there to the gym right now after I'm gonna say bye. - But that is, I mean, that is what this shows all about. That's what I'm trying to make my theme of my other show all about is like, people are just not going to agree, especially in this day and age, about a lot of things. And you just have to have zero animosity because they don't. Like, we don't agree on this, but we're still good, right? - Yeah, you call my phone and tell me you got another situation I'm gonna come. Now, the thing is, if I hit you and you don't come, now I'm gonna be like, all right, that's cool. But I would expect you to come to the air show. - Yeah, of course. - If it's you feel me though, like that? - Yeah, yeah, I got it. - Because the thing is, like, you have a, you have a, especially for me to just sit down right here with you on this situation. And like you said, not see out of eye or have a difference in some. - And we still be cool. - I thought you needed to see that. - And it ain't only half to me. - Because you're never, you know what? I mean, that's every relationship. Try to, try to like, if you're in a marriage or a serious relationship. Try to like, you know, have to agree on everything with the person. - You're just not going to. You have to learn those three little words. - Let it go. - And just, yeah, okay, maybe someday we'll see eye to eye on it. Maybe we won't. And it doesn't matter either way. - You're saying all about the Benjamin? - No. - LLG, what I'm saying. - I LLG, Reggie. - What I'm saying? - LLG, Reggie. - Let it go. - Let it go. - Let it go. - That's all the more. - All right, well, I thank you. - No, I appreciate you big though. - This was really fun. - Let's say, I can't believe you want to be 70 though. - I know. - That's it. - I can't believe you're not even 40. That really hurts. ♪ Club, Render ♪ I'm a tanker, I'm a tanker, and I'm using these waters.