Mark Indelicato Has Had a Bad Attitude Since The Suite Life of Zack & Cody

- I'm Italian, I'm a smoker, I'm from Philadelphia, and also I have a bad attitude. (laughs) - Are you excited about our guest today? - I am very excited, I'm very excited. - I'm very excited. - Someone we've hung out with quite a bit. - Quite a bit, Mark and Delicato, I've known since I was, gotta wanna say 12, 13? - Tease is us, kinda bullies us. - He's a mean guy to me. That's why I love him. But we worked together on an episode of The Sweet Life that was like this episode that was kind of a high school musical promo episode, which we did with like Ashley, of course, Ashley Tizzell, who was on our show, was in both high school musical and our show, and he was like coming on a stage and singing a dance. It was like, I'm an audition. - Did you sing a dance? - I did, I sung a dance. - Did you ever sing? - I'm a Disney kid, I sing a dance. I can't sing, I don't like to do it unless it's kind of funny. - He's a great singer, great dancer. - He is a great singer. - He's a very fashionable guy. - He's like, we definitively one of the most talented actors, I know, and I think, you know, a lot of, because he grew up being a child actor as well, and survived, which a lot of people say, like, how did you do that, man, it's not hard, just like, you know, try a little bit. But he's had a very successful career since that point. So I definitely wanna dive in and talk to him a little bit about like, you know, some of that, how he's coped growing up in the industry, because essentially, like, we're, you know, we're being around the bush, but it's child labor. Like, when you work with that age, like, you know, some kids used to work in coal mines and guard the mine cart door when they were 15. - We were just just as hard. - We just sang in day, so it's still child labor. But, but I wanna talk to him a little bit about that, and like, because I know I have my own bullshit when it comes to, like, some mental hurdles as an adult acting now in the same industry I've been in forever. - Yeah. - I've been learning to remember to use a kid. - Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, and I'm just, you know, I act like a kid anyway. So I wonder if I'm just always chasing that. (laughing) Anyway, do you wanna do a puzzle? - Yeah, let's hop in. - And let's welcome Mark. - Yay! (clapping) - Yeah. - We're live. - I know, look at that. - Whoa, I love this. - Okay, thank you for coming on the pot. I'm very excited. - We've been very excited. What, you've known Dylan Longer than me? - I have known Dylan for how long we know each other? 20 years. - What, well, so we were trying to figure this out. What, what was the, I think we were 13? I was, I'm a year younger than you. I think it was 2000 and late 2006, early 2007, that we met. - So you're about to go to high school. - I'm, I'm bad at math, what is that? What does that make? - 20 years. - Yeah, 20 years. - It was 2026, baby. - 13? - What? - I know. (laughing) - What the hell? - What the hell? - Do you imagine? - That's insane. - I was talking, I was, it was so funny 'cause I was talking to your brother earlier today and I was like, oh, I'm going on the pod. I was like, how crazy should I be? (laughing) - Crazy. And he was like, he was like, be crazy. - We're, so I'm very lost in. - We've not been fooling our punches at all, at thus far. - I mean, Brendan has, because he gets anxious about his parents listening to him, talking about mushrooms or something. - Everyone knows about you, right? - No, no, no, it's everything. - Sorry. (laughing) - I hate to break things. - There's a nose in the street. - I hate to break things, baby. You're not, you're not some, uh, choir boy? - A coin, uh, individual. - Well, this is actually like, we need to get some advice from you in general, because I know that you have, like you, not only do you have your own podcast, but you've done about 3,000 more than we have. - I Googled you, and I was on TikTok as well. I could go all day, just all clips of you. I loved 'em. - This is a happy clip. - He's the one who does the research. - Me? - Oh, but Mark on podcast, I'm like, this guy seems so lively and bright. I'm like, I was almost gonna send him to Dylan, I'm like, "Yo, you should act like him more." (laughing) - Wait, what is that vocal fry that you're trying to get out? Okay, be real with me. I've, see, you've had the vocal fry as long as I've known you. - That's right. - So it's real in your case. But I meet a lot of people who I know the vocal fry's not real. Can you tell the difference? - You see Los Angeles failure? - Yeah, like anybody, like they come and they go, "I need a coffee." And I go, that's-- - It sounds like a tie. - It just sounds like someone's tired. - Yeah, but they put it on, it's a fake voice. - No, it's a, that you could tell who has it and who's, and who's putting it on. You've always had it because you're Italian. - Well, I-- - And a smoker? - And a smoker. - Yeah. - I'm Italian, I'm a smoker, I'm from Philadelphia, and, and also I have a bad attitude. - Yeah, you do. - Born for the vocal fry. - It comes right out. - What a, what a, what a, yeah. - Just to check Mark on the vocal fry. - It's just every, every single thing is checked off. (laughing) - Yeah, there is. - You have more the, like the, yeah, like a grandma. - Right, I know. - Like in a Bronx, like, yeah, exactly exactly. - No one else. - Watch, you don't like it. - Which part of-- - Eat it. (laughing) - Well, you don't like the pasta. - Eat it. - No, eat the man or not. - All right, come on, don't-- - London's half Italian. You wouldn't-- - Half Italian. - You wouldn't expect it because this is actually, I find very funny. You have three sisters. Your mom's a red head. And it's the only recorded case in history where red headedness is not the recessive gene. Every single one of the sisters is red headed. And your dad is, like, tall, dark, and handsome, Italian. But then he grows out his beard and it's a little orange. - Really? - Yeah, so, I mean, it's coming from-- - So my dad looks exactly like me 'cause he's Sicilian. But my mom is from the north, like her family, is from the north of Italy. And so she is, like, she's blonde, hair, and blue eyes. - Yeah, that's a thing up there. - So, like, Milan, right? Like, there's a lot more, kind of-- - Well, it's more Germanic. - Yeah. - Well, Dylan was born in Italy. - I was, that's correct. - There's a lot of Italian influence in this room right now, dude. - I should get a flag back there. - I'm feeling it. - I'm feeling it. - I'm feeling that it's allianism. - Why is there not a friggin pizza on the table? - Have you noticed? - We don't got any friggin snacks. - They said, wait, what's the pizza place out here that I found out? It's like one of the only Michelin pizza places. I think it's actually like Japanese and spiced pizza. - Oh, the Japanese place. - The real pizza is insane. - Pizza is insane. - I've never been open table three weeks out. That's how hard it is. - And apparently they do like an omakasa pizza tasting which sounds kind of awesome, right? And where he's like trying out different levels of moisture in the dough content, trying out different ingredients on top of it, and I go, that sounds kind of awesome. - It's amazing. - They imported the oven from, like, you know, outside Rome or something. - Oh, something crazy. - Oh, something crazy that I will say though, about, and this is a, you know, we're talking about pizza now. Controversal take. I like new, - Me too. - I was gonna say it's a, I'm a New York guy. - Better than food through. - Any pizza that I've ever eaten. - You want four hundred percent? - I just gotta be for real. I got kind of heated about this recently with an Italian buddy of mine from Milan, and we were talking about pizza and the Italians often that I talked to go, well, what do you know about pizza? And I said, you don't know about pizza, like, Americans don't know. - They serve a lot of pizza with a knife. - People are gonna get mad at me for this. - I don't want to fork it a knife with my pizza. It's gotta stand up like this. - Pizza is American. It is Sicilian American. It is not the flat bread from, you know, nappily. It's not that. You can claim that that's like where they're the originators of pizza and all this. It's just not the same. - We're gonna get in a lot of trouble. - We're gonna get in a lot of trouble for this one. - But I believe, but I believe it to be true. - It's just true. The pizza was brought by Italian immigrants to New York, Sicilian predominantly, and became a thing in New York City. You cannot call it a pizza. If it's not, you know, you're not calling a hamburger sandwich. It's just not the same thing, right? - And by the way, my ancestors came from Sicily and Palermo, and like, in Sicily came, like, through Ellis Island and settled in Williamsburg, New York. - No, we got some Williamsburg first? - No way. - You're the original one. - And then they moved to Philadelphia. - Great, yeah. - So guess what? - That's a good idea. - Don't talk to me about pizza. - It's just a little bit of Williamsburg. - Yeah, that's OG. Like, I'm like, that's some OG 1886 type of shit. - Well, I mean, I was just trying to think, two slices of Joe's was my Thursday night dinner every year at NYU, every Thursday. - Yeah. - That one, she's one pap who walked out of God the way. - By the way, for the audience, we all went to NYU. - This is my little trick. I was gonna go next floor. - Oh, yeah. - No, we didn't. - Let's go ahead. - But we all crossed over at NYU, too. - Yeah? - I feel like I didn't see you at NYU and now I'm acting major in Mark. - No. - What were you majoring? - I majored in, well, my concentration. - You're Galatin? - Galatin. - Oh, Galatin. - That was US media representations of Muslim women in the war on terror. - It's a very specific thing, but why didn't you go into that field? (laughs) - Well, then I-- - It seems like it's a huge field. - Well, it's lucrative as (beep) - Then I applied to Yale for a Master's, like right before I got in. - Wait, really? - A. - That's awesome. - But it was very much the thing where like, it was literally, like it was COVID. So, and I hadn't worked, you know, and I wanna get into other stuff like about college, you know, like shit like that, but I'm just saying, like I hadn't worked in a really long time, I had to go to Canada to film, you know, a season of a show that was just. - Vancouver, not the show, the place. - No, that's what I mean, but like Vancouver, lovely place, show, horrible, just to pay for, you know, like our tuition. - Yeah, absolutely. - And I graduated and I was kind of like, all right, then I was living in New York, I was flitting about, sniffing the CC, - Oh no. - And, you know, and I thought that I was having fun until it's not fun anymore. - Of course. - Until you're like, ooh, so you wake up. - I got a good job. - Yeah. - And I moved back to my parents' house here in Los Angeles, and I was like, I gotta get, like I love you got, but I gotta get out of here, like I can't, you know, and we were right at the very, like, then COVID happens, and so we're getting the money, like, you know, 150 bucks a week, whatever, I'm like, all right, I'm surviving, then it, but then it got to a point where I was like, if I don't get a job in the next, or get into school, or anything, within the next couple of months, I really need to figure out something, and this is probably the end of October of 2020. - Okay, and you've been trying out this whole time, you've been auditioning here and there, but there's a long trajectory and timeline of like, when I was not even able to show up for the audition. And that has to do with, like, drugs and alcohol. - Yeah, you're hungover, you don't feel like you're your best self. Here's something that I actually was really interested to talk to you about, which is that, you know, we've both been working for so fucking long. - Yes. - And that, I think we've done, pat ourselves on our own backs, we've done well to survive this long as well. - Well, we're survivors, literally. - Exactly, we're cockroaches, which is what goal and I'd say a lot. - Yep, that's true. - But something I wanted to talk to you about is the feeling of having done this for so long and growing up in the industry with this kind of workaholic attitude, which is like, I mean, when you're eight years old to 17 years old, working in the industry, it's a full office job. We've described this to people a lot before. When you're working on television, it's a day job. You go in, you clock in, you clock out, you have a cubicle, you work, obviously, it's, you know, you're on a stage and it's different, but it's the same hours, you work it like that. Then when it's gone, there's this void that you feel that, and I think it's, maybe it's just me, but I'd be interested to know if you feel the same way, that because we've been doing it for so long, it feels like my self-esteem, for a long time, was tied integrally to my ability to work and be on set. - I think that, but I don't think that that ever would, would go away for me. - Do you think it's a product of our upbringing, though, and working? - Absolutely. - You think it's separate? - I think, well, I don't think that it's separate, because I think that it's completely, we've ingratiated ourselves into it. So it is who we are, it's not separate. It's separate for those that did not have the experience that we've had. I think that, I think about the anxiety that I feel about not working, about not having an outlet to create, that's, it's extremely jarring. And I'm in it right now, I feel like we have to grapple with the reality of our lived experience, and I think as does everyone, but I think that what makes it a little bit different is that most people do not have our lived experience. So we have to keep each other close to each other, as a means of being able to kind of lament about something to people that understand. - Well, so I think that's part of the reason we've been such good friends for so long, as well as like in Throne Cole into here, too. And I was lucky enough to have an identical twin who experienced the same exact thing, right? - At the same exact time. - Which is, I mean, it comes with its own full set of bullshit, and I think it's, you know, I'm thankful to be able to look back and know that you are experiencing the same kind of isms and I'm experiencing. - That's true. - Funny enough, Barbara has experienced the same kind of stuff, too, because she had it in her own ways, like, you know, as a model. - And as a model. - Also as a model. I mean, they don't have a union. - Which is crazy. - They don't have any protections. - The no union thing still, they have no union. - It's wild to me. - It's wild. - Like, they don't get like, how do you care? - It's wild. - No, so there's no union. And the funniest thing is, I feel like it's bizarre. - Being a New Yorker is. - It's bizarre. - You know, being a New York, you meet a ton of like models. - I did all the time. - All the time. - Yeah. - Yeah. (laughing) - You, I'm sure. - Oh, brand, I'm running around New York City, meeting my own friends. - You know him down a beat. - Oh, crazy. - I'm so, brand. - That's what they call me. - Oh, my brand. - I know, you completely (beep) and models, here and there and everywhere. - People will be rich. - People will see this and not, yeah, that's not true. (laughing) - It's like, I wish. - I know, I also don't wish. - No, no, no. - He never. - Yeah, it's enough. - He never, by the way, he never did that. - No, he literally just never did. - I don't want to think like the thing that he did. - Look at me, you think I was. - Yeah. - The funniest thing about me is about you and just knowing this about you is that you, you're one of the most electric people I know, not with women, obviously. - Not at all. - He lost his virginity in call. I'm just gonna steal your story real quick, 'cause I think it's gonna be real funny. - Wait, I want to hear this. - Whoa, whoa, whoa. - This girl, he absolutely was head over heels about, called me about it, was like, I really liked her. Then just didn't have sex for years after that. - But they didn't have it. - But they were just fooling around. - Fooling around? - I'm trying to follow this made up story. - Okay. - Okay, continue. - Now, she's his fiance. - He's, that is, I mean, okay. - I, I, I, so now, I now fill in the blank. - Yeah, I just tell the good version of the story. - Well, I, he was met in college and it's 18. - Yes, the first girl I ever saw. - Saw. - And you were, I love that. - I love that. - You're such a gentleman. - Yeah, yeah, Mark. - The first girl I ever saw. - I mean, really. - No, there was some gaps that we rekindled. I, I was on Instagram, I DMed her a couple years ago. - So wait, and hold on, yeah. - No, there, there's a blank here. So you meet her. So you start seeing. - Yeah, we go to the movies here. - Did you have sexual relations? - We kissed, yeah. - That's sexual, then. - Yes, yes. - Okay. - So then, you. - We prematurely act like seven years ago. - I said, I don't want to talk about it a lot. You're kidding. - All right, lead, hold on. - I'm sorry, I'm sorry. - Now, did I lose my virginity to my wife? - Yes, I did. - But, so then when did that happen? How old? - When I met her at 18. - So 18. - Then you, you said. - I didn't see each other after college, freshman year, yeah. And then we came back together. I don't know, four years ago now, I believe. - Three. - It's the same girl that I know. - Yeah, it's a little pretty, yeah. - That's right, yeah. - You've met my father. - She is. - She is the best. - She's fantastic. - Point blank period. - I love her. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, no, that was amazing that you guys came back together. - I know, well, it was a long time. And then, yeah, I did the dirty move, sliding through the DMs. I was like, hey, it's been a while. - Oh no, it's fine. - By the way, I don't think you can call it sliding in the DMs when you've already been with me. - We had the date when you've copulated it. - Yeah, what? - What are you going to say? - When you've slayed down. - Slayed down. - Anyway, Mark, did you leave your virginity? - You lose your virginity to your new husband. - Believe it, Mark. - No, you know what? If we're gonna do this, I'll tell you, you know what? - I'll tell you that story. - Yes, please do. - Well, it was season three of Ugly Betty. - Really? - What? - This isn't true. - And I swear to God. - This is not true. - Season three of Ugly, I have not told you this. - Doesn't say. - I haven't told many people this. This is an exclusive. - Tea. - There was a boy. And we also went to the same school in New York. - Okay. - And I was. - Where's school, are we talking to? - Performing art. - Performing art. 'Cause I went to Calhoun for a bit. - Performing art? - Yeah. - He was a senior and I was a sophomore. He was like the most popular boy in school. Now, and we're acting, you know, we're acting, but it's not feeling like we're acting. It's feeling very, there's like an electric. kind of, you know, sexual tension. And I thought he was the most beautiful boy that I had ever seen in my whole entire life. And then, because we got to school together at school, and he was like the most popular boy in the senior class. Like, it was like very that. And I knew that boys or girls, both. Was he straight, was he like a presenter? He was straight, straight presenting. And then I have a, and then the tee gets crazy after this. This isn't even the craziest tee. So then, whatever, we go out to like this, you know, I don't know, this party. And, you know, we're drinking, we're having a good time. This is also in the years where no one's carting anyone. - Drew and Manhattan? - You remember that, yes. - Oh, right, yeah. - Yes, Drew and Manhattan. Just at a time when it was just, you know, the all bets were all. - I don't think you look 21 at 15. - And this no chance? - No. - No. - No, I was, you don't look 21. - Nah, that's what I'm saying. - Wait, say it again. - You look 20 tops. - Oh, yeah. - I was gonna say 19. - It really? - Yeah. - It depends on what? - Glowing. - Hold on. I put a lot of makeup on today to come to you. - Doesn't even show. - Thank you. - You're welcome. - Anyway, we have sexual relationships after everything. - I shouldn't have high five during sexual life. We go, we get into a cab. I'm not, you know, I've not been drinking like that before in my life. - Oh, you're back to my parents' apartment. - Oh, no. - On 96th Street and 1st Avenue. - Okay, here. - Into my bedroom. I lost my virginity with a wall that shared with my parents. - And your dad goes. - Zinkie? (laughing) (upbeat music) - When I met David, it was, it was so, I don't know, like there was just something there that we were very adventurous with the, with like in our kind of, like, I don't know. I mean, our dalliance is, we got engaged like within a month of no time. - Okay, I wanna, so when did you meet him? So we met on hands. - Okay. - And I had decided that I was like, guess what? I'm gonna start dating and I'm gonna find my husband. - Which I was very happy about. - You decided to date me. - And I had your friend, I was very happy about that. - And I talked to Dylan and I talked to Cole about it. And like, and I was very, very open. - What changed? - I was just tired of being alone. - Yeah, exactly. - And I'm a like, I'm a monogamous, like I really just am. And I try to not be, and I just am. - Yeah, it's just awesome. - You know, I can't just do, and also, in cis gay world, right? Like gay male world. Like, there is such a freedom of, of like polyamory. And, you know, and- - They just say like 90% of the gay guys I know, even if they are in relationships, are like swinging or seeing others like at certain times. - Right, and it seems very common. - It is just, it's very, very common. And, and by the way, I'm not yucking anyone. - No, exactly. - Like, I don't do it. - Do you think if it works for you, and you have a part in this? - Whatever makes (beep) And you're like, right. - Yeah. - The very end of the day. - Period. - Oh my God, look at you. - I know. - Look at you, I had your first kiss at 189, you're talking about (beep) (laughing) - Go for you. - They grow up so fast. - But you decide to settle down so fast. - The kind of thing. - Mark, do you choose the restaurant for the first date? - I, I did. - You chose. - Okay. - And you say, you know, we're gonna move here. - Where'd you guys go up? - But, but I've made this mistake before, babe. Where, where I would like commit to like a full dinner. - And then- - Dice by appetizers 10 minutes in. And you're like, oh my God, I can't believe that. - Yeah, this sucks. - Like this has to end. - Yeah. - So I chose a street that was walkable. - Nice. - Like a restaurant that was walkable for me. - Mm-hmm. - Good. - And, well. - Duh. - Oh wow. - You know, whatever. And also, we were both in, he was still living with his ex of like six years because they had a lease together. - Yeah, you can't break those. - Yeah, you know, so, so he's also in like a shit situation. - Yeah. - You know, and they had two dogs. - Oh, Jesus. How long were they, quite some time, it sounds like? They were together for, for almost like, I think eight years. - Oh, Jesus. - But I feel like when you're with someone for eight years, like you either know or you don't. - Well, they were not. - Well, they were probably like mutual, right? - It was very, well, they were broken up. - Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they were like, okay, this just isn't working. - They were broken up for I think like almost seven or eight months or something, like, like where it was like, but they were still living together because they were in right, but then we meet each other, but we weren't looking for anything, and I know it sounds so cliche, but it's like, I wasn't looking for anything, and then I found my person. - Yeah, it's true though, dude. - But the truth, you sat down, did you know? - Yeah. - By appetizers, yeah. - I think that by the time is like romantic. - I was like, no, but I'm a romantic too. He sat down, we ordered a drink, we had, you know, we had a cocktail and we're talking, and we're talking about like cinema and, you know, he speaks like five languages and is very cultured and all of the things that I like is just like, oh my god, and also like aesthetically beautiful. - I was really happy to hear about this from you the first time, and also that you're embarking on this period of your life and getting married and doing this because to me, what it is as well is that like we joke about being the survivor thing, we joke about being the cockroach thing, but a lot of what comes with that also is like, you obviously think about yourself a lot, and you think about how to survive a lot, and a lot of that, it can kind of slip into narcissistic territory pretty quick, if you're not careful, and embarking on a relationship with someone that you really love, is a way for you to learn these things and how to survive for two people rather than for one, and it's actual human growth. - I have never been in a relationship before this. - Wow, and so it really is kind of like a trial by fire, and I didn't know for a minute where it was kind of like, oh, I don't know how to do this. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, and scary, am I able to do this? - And sometimes it triggers your fight or flight? - It really feels, it has felt sometimes where I'm like, we get into like an argument, and it's like, oh, are we breaking that? - Yeah, exactly. - And it's just, because I've never done this before, and then I talked to him about it, and he's like, no, we're not breaking it up, we got into an argument, yeah. - You said you got engaged pretty quick? - We did, I was a month and a half in. - Oh, wow, okay. - And as soon as we started seeing each other, we were just not attached at the hip in a toxic way. - Right, like in an inappropriate way, I feel like for both of our-- - Mature way. - Right, like in a mature way, where it was like, we just had a lot of love for each other, and also I will say like on our first date, I asked him, because we were just down the street from my apartment, and I was like, are you handy? And he was like, are you handy? And I was like, no, I have this TV stand that I haven't been able to put together in my bedroom for a really long time, so. - Is that your room? - Put it together, put it together, and we did, but we didn't like, we were not intimate that night, but he like put the TV stand together. - Beast. - And we bought like a six packs of Stellas, and like just sat in my room and like whatever. And then when we were laying in our old place, and he hadn't moved in yet, and I've had my dad's wedding ring for a really long time, and that my dad gave to me, and I like looked at David, and I was like, I love you. Was this not the first time you've said this? - No. - Okay, no, it wasn't the first time that we said, and he was like, no, I love you too. And I was like, no, no, like I like love you. - Did you go down on the knee? - Yeah. - Did you do the step back? - And we're in the bed. - No, but we're in the bed watching the TV on the stand that he built. - Then he built the house. - Kind of hot. - Which I feel, I don't know. - There's something there. - That's a romantic gesture. - And we were just in sweatpants, and like, like, I don't know, like we were just hanging out. Like we were just together, like we were just together. Like, you know, as we, like it was just a normal thing. I just felt that the proposal of it all, I think that maybe if you're in more of like, like if you're in a heterosexual kind of situation that maybe like a woman would maybe want more of a- - Franchise, larger gesture. - Maybe. - And maybe. Like, it's not universal. You'll empathize with this, though. At the time, we were planning on doing an LA wedding, too. Right after. This is his excuse with everyone. He just tells him, he won't invite him, goes, yeah, yeah. Well, we're going to do the LA wedding one day. You'll figure this out after you're wedding? No, and by the way, we won't jump. Don't even worry about it because it is the worst thing that's ever going to happen to you. What? Before the best thing that ever happened to you. What is planning the wedding? Oh, I've already been doing it. It's easy. Dude, Barbara and I have woke up. It's simple. It's simple. I'm in hell. I don't know. We look at each other in bed, and we were like, wow, we felt like we had seen each other with clear eyes from the first point at which we are planning the wedding to the end of it. And the first thought that went through my head is, no way I'm doing an LA one. Oh, yeah, I am doing that. No way I'm doing that. I'm just done with this app, no way. And the thing is, is that I'm like excited. Are you doing a destination? No, we're doing it at my best friend's house, like that played my mom and ugly Betty on our T's. In her backyard, we're doing back to our wedding. Awesome. And I would like to take this opportunity to invite you guys to the wedding. I can't make it in here. What? I can't make it that weekend. What? What weekend is it? You just said. No, I didn't. No joke at all. I'd love to f**k you. I'd love to f**king you. I think my chicken cutlets are pretty stellar. I think, you know, I mean, I'm going home tonight. I've been soaking chicken thighs in milk for the last two nights to make fried chicken. Oh, buttermilk. Oh, buttermilk. Buttermilk, yeah. Buttermilk, baby. David's a lucky guy. Yeah, sure is. I mean, it was funny. Like, I made lunch for Hannah. I'm binder of the other day. She came over with for me and David and her. And she was just like, do you understand that like this is not like what what like happens normally? In terms of quality of food. Like in terms of like someone making you food. Yeah, I know. You're like a phenomenal chef. And he, I always thought that you would like start up a cooking show or something. 'Cause you're like, you're that good. You're actually here first. I watch. I want to do my TikTok. Anyone else want another slice? No. Okay. No, but you got to, you guys got to like, like, push that. Push. Push your. What's the cooking show? Mark's cooking show. Mark's meatballs. Mark's meat balls. Mark's meat balls are so good. I watch it. Honk, he's meat balls. What do you feel pork beef? I do, uh, well, I, I would do beef pork and veal. I can't find veal. Oh, veal. Ground veal is tough. Yeah. So, yeah. Would you have to grind the veal yourself? 'Cause I don't think I've ever seen that around a veal at a store. Yeah. When you're on the East Coast. Yes, it's everywhere. It's everyone's. You can go to the butcher. It's like ruined there. Yeah. It's the one thing that I know about. It's the one thing that kind of gets me about food. I'm pretty adventurous eater. But, like, the thought of the cow in the box and the, like, they keep it in the thing. Is this a myth? Did I just hear the veal? Oh, the dump, the veal? Yeah, to, like, to actually get a cut, like, they keep it in the back. Well, it's a, it's treated the best. It's a cow. And it's murdered. And it's a baby. And it's murdered. But, yeah. I mean, that's just the reality. There's no way around. But to keep it soft, they don't allow it to move, right? This is what I heard. You don't know. They're allowed to move. It's just that they're murdered at a very young age. - Well, yeah, but I also heard maybe not saying, we're not saying it's ethical, I'm saying it's ethical. - Brian, hold this up for me, is the calf allowed to move? 'Cause I'm pretty sure it's kept in a box and it keeps it like super soft. - Like Shirley Tempo. - Yeah. - Like Muscle doesn't develop. - Nice Shirley Tempo once you misbehaved. (laughing) - Gotcha. - They're kept an individual creates, designed strictly to limit their movement, preventing them from walking or turning around. - Well, that doesn't seem very nice. - And then murdered. - And guess what? - Very tender. - So tender. - I mean, it's delicious. - Jane, we can call over what it is. It's delicious. It's delicious. - No, but guess what? - Beef and pork, lovely. I've been doing, 'cause I've been making the focaccia. - Yeah. - And then I let it just sit out for like for a couple of days until it gets really stale. And then I just blend it up, and then I put the milk in it, and then I put that instead of breadcrumbs into the meat mixture. - Okay, I make a killer beer cheese. - And when I make a beer cheese. - It is good. - Okay, the beer cheese, the secret is, instead of using flour as a thickening agent, you grind up pretzels, hard pretzels, and use the pretzels inside instead, and it creates an excellent beer cheese. - It's nice. - It's easy to with a spoon. - Oh, totally. - It's better. - It's favorite. - I also am thinking like I'm gonna do a mixture tonight with like the fried chicken, a mixture with flour, and then grind up like a lot of cornflakes. - Oh, yeah. - That's good. (upbeat music) - This is a very exciting moment, because I am a huge Bravo fan, and Brendan and Dylan are not necessarily as big of Bravo fans. But what we do have is the scene in Amsterdam from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills that we are going to act out for you, right at this very moment. So buckle up and hold on to your panties, because they're not gonna be able to, they don't even know what's going on. - Okay, where are they from? - Beverly Hills. - Oh, they're Beverly Hills. - Oh, that's easy. - They're from Beverly Hills. - Sorry, I'm not normal. - Now, now let me set the scene. - It's like I'm talking. - We're in Amsterdam. - Okay. - It's been very fraught. - Okay. - Like, we're stressed. - We've been fighting for a long time. And Kim is completely off the wagon. - Okay, been drinking a bit? - Yeah. - She's very ordinary. - Gotcha. - Okay. - So it's just been a very fraught season for her. - And it says here I'm the voice of reason. - Yes. - Okay. - Her Eileen is very much like, she's just trying to keep the peace. - Yeah. - Just make sure you get something. - But Lisa and Kim are very much not in a good place. - But you know what's in a good place with Kim. - Okay. - Well, I try. - Okay, here we go. - Did my care. - All right. - Someone want to call action? - Action. - I think we should just talk about it and get it on the open. - I don't want to talk about it with her. She's not my friend. She doesn't know me. You don't know me. - I'm just concerned again. - Wait. (laughing) - Oh, that was good. (laughing) - It's just so funny. - It's just so funny. - Okay, we have to reset. - Can we reset, please? - No, please reset. No, I'm gonna be very, I'm ready. - Okay, okay. - You're a professional. All right, here we go. You ready? Someone call action. - Action. She's not my friend. She doesn't know me. You don't know me. - I'm just concerned, Kim. We're all concerned. - You're concerned? You're concerned about me. Look at yourself. You've got issues. - Kim, she's coming from a place of kindness. - Shut up, I lean. I'm tired of your kindness. You're a beast. - A beast? How dare you? - You're a beast. A beast. I've been nothing but nice to you. - Kim, you're acting out. This is not okay. - Let's talk about the husband. - Let's talk about what? - The husband. - You want to, you want to talk about, don't you ever talk about my f***ing husband ever. - Oh my God, Lisa. - No, don't you ever do that. Lisa, please. - I'm Lisa. - Lisa. - And let's see. - Oh, perfect. Wow, guys, well. - Hacks too. - Part of the reason that I asked before about whether you guys watch anything is 'cause we had heard that you're obviously such a bravo fan, Barbara is a reality fan. She really wants to discover more as a fan of this kind of stuff. What is the first direction you would point her? - I think the real housewives is probably where you start. I think that-- - But aren't there like 10 different, like where, right? - Beverly Hills first. - No, I think New York first. - Okay. - Salt Lake City. - That's a wild one, I'm sure. - That's gonna be wild. - They come out of the gate. They're screaming and yelling. - I like reason chicken salad lady. - The chicken's out of Bethany. - What do we think of Bethany now? - She sent me a cease and desist. - For what? - Really? That's kind of iconic. - Well, yeah, I think you're basically a housewife. - I, you know, here's the thing. I think that I could beat New Jersey is a great one. - Also, hacks just ended, you were just saying, you're kind of feeling like something, like what's the, what's the next step. You are actually getting married. You are going to be a house husband, right? - I don't, I don't think so. I think I'm gonna have to have to work. - Well, I mean, this is work too. Would you say that they work or they don't work? That's kind of work, right? - No, I think that they work. It's just not work in the ways in which we're gonna have to work. - That's true. - We're gonna have to be in, listen. If I could just sit home and just, you know, and argue with the girls and smoke my cigarette. - That's kind of what we've done for an hour, guys. (laughing) - That's like, hey, that was awesome. - And by the way, that's why I don't wanna leave. - Yeah, that's why I don't wanna leave. - 'Cause I have in a good time, I'm like, I don't wanna go home, I don't wanna cook dinner. - Hey, Mark, you gotta go. - No. - You gotta get out of here. - I won't leave. - Don't you talk about my set that way. - I'm not out of, I'm not leaving. - Security. - So that's why. - Long story short, we want you back. We want you to come back and we wanna make some food. - Let's make some food. - I'd love that. - So, you gotta, now that you're an honorary wild man, you gotta come back and join us again. - I have had such an incredible time. You guys have such an incredible team, an incredible environment, and I (beep) love you guys. - Thank you. - We love you. (upbeat music) - Do you want them, or do you want me, or how about the three of us? I don't know. Stay tuned. (laughing)