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Mariska Incorporated: Tuesday, September 15th, 2026

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Mariska Incorporated: Tuesday, September 15th, 2026

The episode blends entertainment and commentary, beginning with a heartfelt discussion of Taylor Swift’s recent appearance at a Chiefs game with Tom Cruise, where her new haircut is praised as a bold, confident evolution. The hosts reflect on her growing independence from public scrutiny, noting her absence of alcohol and careful storytelling as signs of personal growth. They then transition into a critical yet appreciative review of the Emmy Awards, highlighting the absurdity of award shows’ commercial breaks, the underrepresentation of diverse voices, and the emotional resonance of standout performances—particularly Jean Smart’s historic wins and the surprise success of *Widow’s Bay*. A major focus is on Michaela Matthews’ decision to exit *Secret Lives of Mormon Wives*, citing her moral opposition to the show’s platforming of toxic behavior and abuse, which the hosts view as a rare act of integrity. They also explore the deeper dynamics of online drama, including Taylor Swift’s TikTok comments referencing intimacy issues with Michaela’s partner, which reveal contradictions in her public statements. The discussion concludes with a broader reflection on accountability in media, the importance of personal values over profit, and the evolving role of influencers and media figures in shaping public narratives. The episode concludes on an empowering note, celebrating courage, authenticity, and the quiet strength of individuals choosing integrity over fame.

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Good morning, girl, it's the Tollos. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hoes. It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Tuesday. I hope everybody had a great night. I did. Watch The Family Stone, so I wouldn't say it was like a great night. We both did our homework. I watched the Emmys, you watched The Family Stone, so we could come here today and discuss both at nausea. And the streets were really interested to hear what I would think about The Family Stone. And as predicted, did you feel like S.J.P. was the victim? For a minute. But like, they changed quickly for her. No, no. And actually, at one point, the family did take it too far. And the kitchen, when she dropped that thing on the floor. Oh, no, but by then they were all good because she really redeemed herself with that present, which actually brought a tear to my eye. By the time-- Oh, so I haven't seen the movie in a while. What was the present? She got everyone. And she's passing out the same gift to everyone, so we're like, what did you get, everyone? And they all opened in. It's like a frame photo of the mom, Cible, just like looking very beautiful and pregnant and like radiant. Oh, that's nice. And they were just all moved to tears. I would say by the time the sister came, like, S.J.P. is doing better. She's obviously hard to root for. Like, what was she doing and saying at the dinner table? No, dinner table. Like, girl, shut up. What? Shut up. And when she was like, she was like, that's not what I mean, that's not what I mean. And then her boyfriend was like, why don't you say what you mean then? Like, just find the words to say what you mean because it sounds really bad. Georgia Rule is her boyfriend at the time, right? Dermit Milroni. Dermit Milroni. And then she swirled her leaves with Owen Wilson, right, like the derelict brother. Yes. And then the sister goes with Dermit. So it's great. But unfortunately, she still has to join this family that she was never right for in the first place. And I guess we'll see how that turns out in the long-awaited sequel. Yeah, I guess there will be like a lot of kids. Why was the, not that you would know this because you barely remember the movie, but why was the husband of the pregnant daughter, not there? Who, I don't even know what you're talking about. I haven't seen this in a long time. The daughter Susanna, she's like, she's pregnant and she also has a kid already. And her husband, like literally only comes on Christmas morning, like, walks in and says Mary Christmas. Like, he wasn't there. I don't know. Like, why? I don't know. Yeah, if someone could sound off if I miss something, like, is he in the armed forces? I don't know. I watched the M.A.'s one because it's my job and two because like, I did have to support the main track of television, Miss Mershka Hargitay. And like, I'm sure we'll talk about it in the stories and we'll go through like all the winners and stuff. But in her monologue, first of all, she was cracking me up. Like, she did a good job. And I feel like a lot of the times when you're a comedian, you write a lot of the jokes. But she's just like an actress in a house like, everything was written for her. So I was a little bit afraid that like, it wouldn't be like, good or personal. It was funny. Like, obviously some of this chick was stupid. But she did what she was supposed to do. She brought Jalen Brunson and Taylor Swift into her pre-recorded sketches and like, thank you, Quaid. And we got like 11 lawn-awder jokes. Like, thank you. That's all we need for me. And, oh, and in her monologue, she was like, I'm the first woman to host the Emmys in 15 years. And like, seriously, she shouldn't have said that because that's genuinely embarrassing, like for Hollywood, which claims to be like this extremely inclusive, progressive institution. It's like, wait, we're still doing that, like first woman. Like, what? It was just kind of like awkward when she said it. I guess, but it also like, it makes it a huge woman for her. So she should get her power. No, of course. She should not get them because they should be embarrassed. Of course, but like every speech, you know, every, you know, classic award show stuff, even though I found that it wasn't like a terribly annoying award show. No one was being like so patronizing. They just love to say what we do is so important, we're storytellers. It's like, yeah, by the way, that's fine with me. But what firefighters do is so important. Do you know what I mean? Like, they just were putting themselves on the same level as firefighters. And they're like, where are the fires? Correct. Like this just sense of like real importance. And like Sally Field, she was like, it started in the caves and the fires and it's like, okay, like you're just like doing movies, whatever, just like I actually enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. And the, I think I need to watch Widow's Bay. I've never heard of it until last night and it won every award. And so it was a lovely evening for the for the small screen. I'm so glad. The last few award shows I've watched. I've like deeply regretted and I think I'm in a place of boycott right now. So I was not going to watch the Emmy. I'm glad I had homework to do because I maybe would have felt conflicted. But like, no, no, it got really bad towards the end of last award season. So I'm on there. There are various types of award shows, right? Like music, TV. I find the music ones like way more tolerable because at the end of the day, we're getting performances. Yeah, you are. And even if you don't agree with the winners or you find it like, you still get music. That's always fun. There was one performance last night during the in memoriam with Noah Khan. So like, it wasn't like, um, I didn't watch it. Why? It sounds so sleep. It was only at the end. Like, I'm sorry. It was such a long award show. And I think there was a tribute to Dolly. I was there. I felt like I saw this morning. There was like, Reba and Oh, oh, I miss something huge. Who was? I'm sorry. Like, I gave two hours of my time. I feel that if you can't get the whole show in in the two hours. And maybe if you took less commercial breaks, that was insane. It was literally like one award commercial break, one award commercial break, so many commercial breaks. I give people complain about the ads on this show, like take your complaints to the Hollywood farm press. Like, that was an insane amount of commercials. And at least we do ours with like style and pizzazz and comedy. Like, oh, my God, it was dreadful. It's here. Sally Field and Reba led an emotional tribute to Dolly Parton at the Emmys. Oh, I must have missed that. My bad. But I feel that I saw the large, the gist of the program. Yeah. Yeah. So big winner was widow's Bay, anything else, noteworthy? Um, like she, we're going to talk about like some of the noteworthy things for me, Emmys, that like everyone will care about. But I just want to say, Mariska did a great job. We got like her whole family there, Peter Herman, like anytime we get the Herman, hard to take crew out of the house. It's a good day. Do you think this is the, because now I'm remembering our conversation about Mariska hosting the Emmys and like my prediction that she will be like the next Kelly Clarkson. Um, oh, did you say that because I was thinking last night that she's actually giving Kelly like she could be the next household name in this country, America's sweetheart. You know, products, line, TV show. She's just like very warning. She's got the Rachel Ray formula. Yes. Um, so do you think that last night was the beginning of like Mariska Incorporated 1,000 percent. You want to know why she was not divisive at all. She didn't make any political jokes. And I think like we always say about Kelly, the reason why a lot of people can't fill her shoes is because they almost can't help themselves, but like put their personal thoughts and agenda and political and which I totally understand. That's why we said pink wouldn't be a good host because she's like a prince because she's very principled on a lot of political issues. I feel that Mariska just wanted to entertain. And I think that she would make an amazing Kelly and like I'm ready for the way fair for Mariska, Mariska Hargote for a way fair line. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. She's on her way. I feel like we're going to see more of that. And she gave us like looks to like she changed every time she came on stage. She did a hilarious game of thrones, but like she was actually cracking me up. She's funny. Like we don't get to see her in that light a lot because she's like a sex crimes detective. But she was like joking just about like she said something funny. She was like I won my first Emmy in 2000, whatever for Olivia Benson, everybody clapped. And she's like and I want a number of them since that day. That number being zero. She was just funny. She had good delivery. She looked like seriously a plus choice. I never would have thought like so random, but she is she doesn't even get enough credit just because she's so like embedded in culture. She's literally the matriarch of daytime television, not even daytime. She's holding it together. Yeah. And she like what is they're going on to their 20th season. Like she doesn't get enough credit for being the hardest working woman in Hollywood. I think credit starts now. I think this is the beginning of a beautiful journey from Rishka. Yeah. Maybe like her. She was raising her kids. So she was happy just to have this like consistent gig with La Notta. It films in New York. She lives in New York. She doesn't have to like miss out on the recitals and stuff. But now because I saw picture of her kids, they're like kind of grown like little preteens. So maybe now she can start doing things outside of just Olivia Benson, a home wear line, a cooking show. No more recitals. No more recitals. Yeah. I got the vibe that like maybe this is kind of like a like a Debbie Tantkeetson-Yara, like a coming out party for more. Yeah. She's the beginning of I think the five point plan. I live and I love live left love, Rishka, like probably like new representation. They have a new board. Yep. She definitely like needs the backing of like a VC firm to take her product line, her beauty line, and just make it come to life. Maybe like food line. Yeah. Big salon out news. We actually have great stories today. Actually four out of the five stories could have been number one story of the day. So the first four will be in like no particular order, but just know like they're all fighting for the number one spot. We also have to your posters. But it's usually the opposite. Like none of these stories are a number one story. That's unusual. I've never had this problem of four number one. Yeah. This is a great problem to have. Yeah. But so don't be like, oh, why is like Macklemore number four? Like he could be number one on a different day. I don't feel that he would ever be number one, but that story is what could have been number one. No, sorry. I was just saying like Macklemore in general. The story could be maybe it will be number one. Let's see where the conversation goes, but that's big news. We also have to your toasters and we also just like have a lot to do. I won't really tell you too much, but I did want to say talk about one thing I went down a rabbit hole yesterday. I'm not sure if anyone's following. Because it's all happening in Europe, like Celine Dion's big comeback. So I watched her documentary, if you've seen the documentary, like you know, she was diagnosed with stiff persons syndrome in 2021 and she basically lost all motor function. Her documentary was chilling because she had like a live seizure on the documentary while she was getting a massage and they kept the whole thing and it was like very graphic and deeply disturbing. But I think that it was a real window into what it's like to live with that chronic illness. And over the years, you know, we've heard from her very briefly, she did perform at the Olympics. That was like a really big deal. I do believe her condition got way worse after that. And then a little while ago, I remember she went on Hoda and was talking about how like she's in the process of rebuilding now, like basically how like, you know, when you get in a car crash, you have to learn how to walk, like she had to learn how to do everything. And that includes singing. She like lost complete control of her vocal cords. So she's literally taught herself how to sing. And over the weekend, she had her first show back. I think it was in France, Brian Kelly was there, so I was like following the whole thing through Brian's Instagram. And now I've seen like a million clips. It is actually like, it's the craziest thing to watch. First of all, her voice sounds completely different. Like you can tell it's almost sounds like a different person singing. And first of all, she sounds amazing. She doesn't sound like herself. And I feel that, you know, she, she sounded like everything was so much harder for her. Like she used to belt out these lyrics, like not even move. Like it was nothing to her. She's so focused. She's trying so hard. She sounded incredible. It's very emotional. Like you have to watch these videos. Of course, she's serving looks and she's like still being her Celine Dion self, but she sounds really different. But it's literally amazing to see somebody like literally completely rebuilt, just basically teach them. So it's like literally we sat down one day. It was like, I'm going to learn how to sing like, couldn't even talk. It's the most insane thing ever. She's such a queen. And I do think now she's going to go like do a series of shows, not just this one comeback show. It's a beautiful thing to watch. I think it's very inspiring to people with chronic illnesses, like especially stiff person syndrome. Yeah. Wow. You see the videos. You do have to see the videos. Like it's insane. It's very emotional. I'm curious to hear what she sounds like if it's so different. It's so different. And then I think her big thing was like she really wanted to hit that one note. And all by myself, it's like, and that's like her whole, that's like her thing, her whole life. I think that's what I made her famous back in the day. The video of it, first of all, she slighted it. Like she hit it hardcore. I saw some other videos. She doesn't hit every note. It's not a perfect performance. She's like literally rebuilding. But this particular note, like I think means the world to her, it was, like I actually started crying when I watched it. It was beautiful. Like really beautiful. Oh, wow. It's kind of one of the great tragedies of our time. Like Celine Dion is one of the greatest vocalists in the modern era, like maybe in the last 100 years. And she got diagnosed with this illness that robbed her of that. And it's kind of a modern tragedy. Yeah. Her documentary was so sad. If you haven't seen it, it's on prime. Yeah. Okay. I remember. I remember. I just wanted to share that really annoying fun fact. That's a good fun fact. Yeah. You don't forget. You're free to share that at your will. Do you feel, like sometimes you forget famous people that you've met? Maybe. But I think I forget fun facts. You know, what people would be like, what's like the craziest thing that's ever happened? Or like, you know, we just had this conversation about Close On Sunday. Yeah. Right. Who do you think is the most famous person you've ever met? I can't even rack my brain. And what do you mean met like either taking a photo with or chatted with like not just been in the same room because yeah, okay, Taylor Swift, I went to our concert. We were in the same room. No, but we're like, do you do a meet and greet? That counts. That counts. Changed words, photos, glances, that counts. Besides me, obviously, um, who was I just like, I met Miley Cyrus once. That's what I was thinking. The most famous. That's like my most famous celebrity, like run in, you know, that's different than like being an advent or something. Yeah, like before he was who he is now, and he was just sort of like the wonder kid building spaceships. I met Elon Musk at like a party, and he was like, I love your blog, and I was like, okay, and I always forget that that happened because he's like, Elon then is different than Elon now. But I feel like that's probably the most famous person I've ever met. That's a very famous person. Yeah. And even understand the magnitude of it at the time. I've met Kim. I've met Kim. Yeah. Yes, I've met Kim. Yeah. Yeah. Just genuinely like one of the ugliest photos together. And she's the most famous person in the world. So that's the most famous person. And did you meet him like a work, like you wouldn't even know. It was probably like 10 years ago, but like it was a work event. It was, um, I feel like it's not bringing up any memories in it. It wouldn't. I would, I like, I think it was like a corporate thing, corporate back in my corporate days. Oh, okay. Oh, let's read a Williams. That's like really up there too. That was a corporate meeting. Yeah. Corporate meeting of the minds. Yeah. Cool. Very cool. Super. I love celebrities. Super cool. Super cool. Super cool. Yeah. I feel like I'm not girl. Like I'm literally Megan Foxx in confessions of a teenage drama queen. Like I feel that my worth is directly tied to like, how many celebrities are in that. You are. Megan and Stew Wolf like into his party like whenever that was like exactly. I forget. You have like a birthday party or something and someone like famous was like there. I'm not going to remember. It was literally 10 years ago. But I was on a sounding familiar and I told you you were being like Megan Foxx and Stew Wolf. There was somebody famous at my birthday party. Yeah. Like a million years ago. Maybe someone from the bachelor or something. Oh. Okay. I guess we're playing fast and loose with the word famous. That meant everything to us then. Back in the day. It's so true. Like the people from the back when I said yesterday, which is like, I don't know, famous like celebrities. I don't really do it for me. Now. Yeah. And that Alex are all so I guess Alex or would be the most earning Elon Musk. I'm really like in my influencer era. Like I only care about the influencers to I wonder if other people feel that way at all. Like I don't know. I find celebrities so boring with the exception of like Taylor Swift and select field. And yes, when it comes to who I would rather be in a room with like a bunch of boring actors or like a bunch of viral TikTok and YouTubers like, yeah, I think I'd go for the latter. Honestly. But maybe it's because like that whole parasocial element where it feels like we really know them. I don't know what it is, but they for at least for me, just like eclipsed interest. They're more interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So good job. I think a lot of people feel that way. Good job influencers. You're doing good job influencers. Yeah. Consider me influenced for sure. Now I feel like we should dive in. We do have like a shit ton to do today. And like there's a lot of things that we need to talk about in tandem of like what we already talked about like Taylor and Merchka, so without further ado to do it is time for the fast eye stories that you don't need to know. The fast eye stories that you need to know are brought to you by SmartMouth. There are enough things to worry about during the day. Your breath should not be one of them. SmartMouth takes the worry away. You can use it as a part of your morning and nighttime routine for 24 hours of bad breath protection. So SmartMouth is the only mouthwash clinically proven to stop your bad breath before it starts and prevent it from coming back. It uses an activated zinc eye on technology, their dual solution formula mixes as you pour. 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Thank you, Tertuccino. You're welcome. I feel like did you ever watch the fruit AI like soap operas? Yeah. And their names are always banana cheetah. Like because it's a banana. And then it's like orange you know? Yeah. And you're Tertuccino. I'm Tertuccino. Yeah. Our first story, Taylor Swift appears at the chiefs game last night chatting with Tom Cruise as they cure on Travis Kelsey at the first chiefs game of the season. So I forgot this is something that happens. But the chiefs played last night. Travis's wife, Taylor was in attendance, sitting next to Tom Cruise. Taylor's back, she's going to turn me for comment. Okay. I feel that last night between the Mariska Hargote pre taped segment and her in real life at the chiefs game. We got a very, very good look at the new haircut. And might say I love it. Like it's really inspired. I didn't even know what to call it because it's not a lob. But it's not like mid either. It's a very unique length. And I think it looks great, especially for a girl who like relatively never changes her hair. Like if she had her curly era and like that's pretty much it and then the bangs. Like she's kind of consistent in that. And getting a haircut is of course scary. I just want to say I love it. Like I really love it. I love it too. Are you talking about the hair so much because you're avoiding having to deal with the fact that shoes with Tom Cruise your mortal enemy? No, I'm not. I hate to just like lead with negativity because as you guys know, I'm not that type of person. Yeah, of course, like devastating to see my biggest like little my role model, sitting with my op Tom Cruise. Like because one thing about me, I keep my foot on the neck of Tom Cruise. Now, do I think that this is a poor reflection on Taylor and like the people on Twitter who are like, it's so disappointing to see her. No, because I'm not a loser. But it is so disappointing. Yeah, good. But I think also, like interacting with famous people, like I don't care. They could just wind up in the same box. I don't think he's like now the personal guest of Taylor. No, he is because as we know, Taylor. Yeah, Taylor exclusively goes to games at Arrowhead. She like won't go to other stadiums. And it's because like she has her set up there. I believe that they're in the same suite every time it's her suite or it's Travis's suite because there's always like Travis's family. So no one is in there because they like had some extra tickets and they gave them to the marketing department. Like, no, he was a guest of Travis and Kelsey. Travis Travis, maybe it's like he's a guest of Travis. Yeah, and I just want to say, like there's nothing wrong with being a Tom Cruise fan. Like he is like one of the biggest movie stars in American history. And I do like that like in recent years, like Taylor doesn't give a fuck. I feel like she used to be like so afraid of any sort of scandal that she would shy away from like maybe a potential friendship because like Tom Cruise has bad PR like whatever. I like that she doesn't care. She likes her friends canceled. I do think that that's something that comes with maturity. And so I like that it is because it's also not even about like if you did like your friends canceled, you would be friends with like lively. So it's like what are you talking about? Or like Kelly Teller, like what's literally what's going on? So I like that she doesn't give a fuck. Yeah. I just like we would have been more setting to see her there like sitting next to Chloe Kardashian. You know what I mean? Like if I had to choose anyone like I ain't choosing Tom Cruise. By the way, fun fact, Chloe Kardashian is a big fan of your favorite creator, the one who meal preps. You're kidding. She knows our girl. She got she's been commenting on her videos. Chloe is literally so real. And what's the name of us? What's the name? It's them something. Do you mean the name of my favorite creator? Yeah, she just say her name because it's literally so. Oh, them hoffers. Them hoffers. Oh, she's like saying that's probably the name of her family. Yeah, her name is Cindy Hoffer and her handle is them hoffers. We keep talking about her, but we like can't we forget the name. So that's her name. Chloe is a big fan. Chloe leaves comments. Chloe loves reels, by the way. Yeah, she's a reels mama. I like seriously love this woman with my whole life. No, me too. That's my goal. Like I want to be like her. She made like an amazing meal prep this week. She does every week. Like pizza rolls just insane. No, I will buy her in due time. Keenwa bites. So good. And she's a Cowboys fan. Oh, she from Texas. I always got the vibe that she was Southern. I have no idea. I'm just sort of falling along for the ride, you know? Yeah, I love her. But I thought you would like that for Chloe. I do. I do like that for Chloe. Chloe commented like, you're amazing. Taylor took like a big break last season from going to games, even at Arrowhead. Remember, we were like wondering if it was because she got like a botched facelift or like she, because of her stalker, there were a lot of different theories. But I guess she's back. Once you're married, like, you got to go. Yeah. And I think, you know, the facelift has set. It looks really good. So she didn't time it perfectly. She probably timed it perfectly for the wedding. But she didn't time it perfectly for the Taloas press run. Yeah. And the beginning of football season, because she has to be hiding. Right. It's hard to find time to get a facelift when you're a public figure. Like when our time comes, I don't know what we're going to do. Well, you know, I'm very conflicted about getting a facelift. Okay. Because like, obviously, my conflict is that I love plastic surgery. And I'm a believer that like if you need something and get something and I'm sure I'll need one like, I know I will need a lip lift one day. Like it's in my future. But I feel that people genuinely underestimate like how big of a procedure a facelift is. Like it's not like boob jobs are like low key standard. Like no jobs too. Like you do recover in like a week. And also like, we could do, I'm like, we could do this show recovering from a boob job. Oh, yeah. I mean, I mean, I have no shame. I'll sit here with the thing on my face. You'll sit there wrapped up. Yeah. It's more so that I feel that it's a major, major recovery that I'm really not prepared for. I'm not a good patient. No, you're not. Do you remember when I got like one thing done to my chin and like seriously, never, never stopped talking about it? Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. Maybe you're not. Olivia said she could hear me. Olivia picked me up. She said she could hear me from screaming from the waiting room. And also as much as you said, I'll sit here with a bandage. Like you wouldn't be able to talk your face off for over an hour a day, recovering from a facelift. Like it's not just about that you're wearing a bandage, like you're in pain. I think you forget. I'm the girl who got a public IV on this podcast. I used to podcast hungover because you do that. You could do anything. It's not true. That's not a video. No, but you're not even listening to what I'm saying. Like I don't think I have the constitution to go through such a major procedure. I think people underestimate generally. What goes into getting a facelift? - Sorry, I skipped over that point because I hardly agreed and there is enough said. - Like I'm scared, I'm not doing it. - I think I'm more scared of the facelift than I am of looking old and ugly. - Yeah, that's fair. - So I think I'll stick with like Botox fillers, like literally everything but, like only because I'm afraid. Like but from the neck down, I'll look 26. Face up, 62. - But will that not make you look older? - At least they're talking about me, you know? - Yeah, anyways, I'll just say like, - Let's give 'em something, it's suck of that. - It is hard to time your facelift as a public figure. - Oh yeah, right. - However. - Because like we said, it's a major surgery, right? - One year later, she's looking amazing. - Settled flawlessly. - Yeah. - She looked, it was a great night for Taylor, like she just looked, and she's also like, in an off era for her, right? She hasn't done any work professionally since T-Lawas, it's like Travis' time. - She was planning a wedding. - Right, right. - She was getting married. - And I don't know what, when she does start working and stuff, like what that means for her football attendance. - Yes, well, we'll get to that in the next story sort of, but I just wanted to say one more note about Taylor that people were noting was that she wasn't drinking. - Yes, I of course saw the theories, the Taylor Swift stomach watch dogs. I'm with them, like she also could have just not been drinking, like maybe she had to wake up early. It doesn't mean anything. She doesn't usually have a vacacota in her, in her. - But I think that if she were pregnant, then she would go to the effort to pretend like, she could just get a cup of ice water, and it wouldn't raise any plus. - With lines. - So I actually think because she wasn't drinking, that's more of a clue that she's not. This is the girl who shows up to her shows in a refrigerator, like she goes, there's no length she won't go to, to pull the pull over your eyes. - 1,000 per time. - So she could pour herself a little drink. - A little seltzer. - A kind of grape juice. - She's not even gonna pour it herself, like someone's gonna pour it for her. - Yeah, so I don't think that that's a smoking gun at all. - No, maybe I would love for the gun to be smoky as hell, but I don't think it is. - Yeah, I don't think it is. - Okay, well, it does lead into our next story, which is a bit of Emmy's discussion, including the Easter Egg video that Taylor Swift did with Olivia Benson, the sketch, ESPU, sketch, apparently. There's a lot of Easter eggs in there. - Well, the concept of the sketch was very funny. They were trying to solve a crime in the ESPU office, ICT, everyone was at Rollins, and the crime, well, not the crime, like the question that they were trying to solve using all these different clues was Will Taylor Swift, attend the Emmy's. And they're like going through all the different shows and what it could possibly mean. And then the new guy shows up, Taylor, the detective. She's like, I think you guys have got this all backwards. And whatever, they end up getting to the conclusion that of course she's not going to attend the Emmy's. Her husband has a football game that night. The answer lies in TV. And then her and Marishka do is like cute. It was very, very, first of all, funny. Like me and Ben were cracking, it was well written. - Of course, 'cause that is how the Swifties are with her clues, like putting them on the board like detectives. - And we actually got clues from Taylor last night. - Right, so here are some things on the board, okay? We have Tuesday 8am, the clock is set to 1013, and 1013, October 13th is a Tuesday. So then we have Tuesday 8am, October 13th. Question Marky. Personally, like I do draw the line with the Easter eggs. Like I feel that my, you know, we all have a role to play in the war to come. And my role as a Swiftie is not the decoding department. I'm not sitting down with my cork board. I can't get involved in these types of things. I really can't. - We have DTF, St. Louis. What's that? - TV show. - Great, thank you so much. - 'Cause they were also using like the TV show's nominated last night to lie. - Yes, yes, yes, there's a lot. Abbott Elementary is here, hacks. - Elementary. (laughing) - Elementary. - Just thought I'd switch it up. - Elementary. - And then there's also speculation, like based on this, that two Taylor's versions are in here. - Two albums. - 'Cause it said two TV. TV could be the television, 'cause it was the Emmy's or it could be Taylor's version. - And then also when she said it all comes back to TV, that could also be a Taylor's version. - Not. - Yeah, even though we're, yeah, yeah. North, South, she said. - I do think like without getting too specific into this, when I'm setting in alarm October 13th, 8am. (laughing) - Two, I do think this is the beginning of clues. Like I think some, like how you said. - Well, but she's due for an album. - And you said C.M.A.'s her going the same, my last call. - Yes, yes. - I think we're on the road of an announcement. - And you know that her clothes are always a part of the universe. And her like Gingham Southerny country dress last night, like was giving C.M.A. country album of the year. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I think we're on the road. - I think we're on the road too. - It's exciting to be on the road. It's frustrating and annoying, but it's also exciting. Especially at this point. - It's one of the worst places to be like. - At this point right here. No, the road gets really rocky when it's like all for a special additional vinyl album. - All for merch. - Yeah. - Yeah, I agree. - But when it's all for something, I'm sad. Agreed. And then do you wanna talk about Emmy winners? - Oh yeah. Nothing, I feel like there wasn't. The pit was like the most nominated. Actually at one point, I think in like the supporting actress category, there were four actresses from the pit. None of them won. I feel like they split the vote. Like Alison Jenny won. Like it was so random. But so there wasn't, I feel like a show. Actually Widow's Bay probably. I kept calling it. Me and Ben were talking about where like, what is this show Widow's Bay? Widow's Bay. - Widow's Bay. - Widow's Bay, what's it about? - I have no idea it's a comedy. - It sounds like it's about a lot of like wealthy Widows who live on the Bay. - No, I saw the clips. Nobody looked wealthy. - Okay, there is a Bay. A New England mayor trying to boost tourism on his island must navigate strange events suggesting it might be cursed. That sounds great. We dodged like a major bullet. Thank you to the Lord and the voting members of the Emmy Academy for not voting for Hannah Onbender. Like I personally could not have sat through one of her speeches. Like I was gonna turn it off. So thank you. And then Jean Smart One, which I was glad. 'Cause like, even though I didn't finish hacks, like I root for hacks and Jean Smart like is a queen. She won and I think, I don't know what this statistic is, but what is it, like four or five seasons of hacks? She's won every single year. - Wow. - And now the show is over. So it was like very much everybody gave her a standing ovation. It was very like conclusive. - Wow. Has that ever happened before? - No, there were a couple of records that guy Matthew Reese won. He's in two different shows, the Diplomat and Widow's Bay. And he got nominated for both. It was like lead actor and one both. - You mean he got nominated in two different categories? - For two different shows. - Yes. - But in two different characters. - Yes, yes, yes. - Okay, okay. - One twice, like supporting actor. - He won lead actor in a comedy and lead actor in a drama. - Yeah, in a limited series. - Oh, and then the weird thing was that they had a category of, can you read me the categories? - Which one did Sally Field win? - My mom, my way, my birthday buddy. - Yeah. - She won lead actress in a limited or anthology series. So that's in a, like a mini series. - Okay, what she won for remarkably bright creatures was a movie, okay? Well, they included her in the nominations. I'm like, well, she can't win. She's not in a series. - Are you positive? - But I watched it. - Okay. - Are you sure? - It was a two hour long movie. - You're sure about that? - I'm sure it was a movie. - Okay, and so I thought it was weird that she won. And her speech, she said something like Loki, like hella just respectful. Her first thing was that, like she wanted to thank the woman who wrote the book for writing this amazing story about a man, a woman, an octopus. So shout out, she'll be Ben Peltar, whatever your name is. I was like, is that a joke? But then the rest of her speech was so serious. I was like, I was actually really shook by that comment. - That's really crazy. - Maybe it like stems from something. - Maybe they'd be, or it's like a joke. They have, I don't know, maybe they have jokes, but yeah, that is weird to the naked eye. - And I thought it was weird that she won. - Because you didn't like it. - No, because it's a movie. - Oh, everything else nominated was a series. - Right. - Claire Daines, Beaston, Nate, Carrie Mulligan, Beav, Sarah Pigeon, Sarah Snook. - The fanning sisters, like kind of sisters night out, they were both nominated for like separate TV shows. Margaret's got many troubles. And she's in the Sarah Snook one. What the hell was it called, tell me? - All her fault. - Yeah. And they were just like in the front row, like having the time of their lives. I don't think either of them won, but they were just happy to be there. - That's so cute. - That's where I would have liked to have sat. - That's really cute. They're obviously spending a lot of time together working on the nightingale. - As a motherfucker, it should get to work. - I think they were working on it, like it's being worked on. - Good. - So yeah, I guess pit one best drama for the Noah Wilde one also, like for his lead actor. Comedy, Widow's Bay, limited series, DTF St. Louis. Truly, I've never heard of it. I thought it was like-- - The Traders One. And the Traders Returns this week. - The Nobodies Series. - For Nobodies. - And they won for competition series. Reality, competition program. - Reality. Yeah, dancing with the stars tonight and then Traders later on in the week, and it's the one without celebrities. I wonder if it's gonna be so much better or so much worse? - I think it might be like, if you're into games, I think it will be better on the gaming end. People don't know who each other are, who's smart, who's not. the other show like has that inherent flaw. that all the smart people get out first. - Yeah, it's so true, it's annoying. - Yeah, so I think if you're into like, actually the art of the game, it will be better. And yeah, I'm down. Okay, that's your Emmy's recap, a bridge, Emmy's recap. - Yeah, I like to. - Our next story is a little more TV news. Michaela Matthews from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives announces her exit after hearing recent news that she said went against her morals. So Michaela Matthews from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives posted yesterday that she will not be returning to the show. She said, I made my decision over a week ago after hearing some news that I will not be continuing the show at this moment. In her post, she said that she was no longer comfortable being a part of the show, which she said was platforming behavior she didn't agree with, especially given her own experience growing up in a home with multiple forms of abuse. There's no amount of money worth going against. My morals are changing the stance I've had since I first saw and heard the things that made me feel this strong lane. She added though she did not share further details. And for her personally, she said, continuing to directly profit from this behavior feels wrong and unethical. It feels like a disservice to the children, everyone's healing and the millions of people watching. Supporting an adult doesn't mean constantly making excuses for toxic behavior while giving unconditional sympathy and grace with zero accountability or change. I was in that enabling cycle for years and I'm not going to be a part of it again. - Give yourself a pat on the back. It is, first of all, I was just not expecting, let me rephrase, this shocked me for a multitude of reasons. It's hard to imagine that anyone would walk away from a show that's like, "Lira, just making you so much money." - Training money. - Training money. - To walk away because it conflicts directly with your core values is something that only somebody with an enormous amount of integrity does. And to be honest, I never saw that for Michaela. Like, maybe I just don't know her but like, she wasn't giving me the vibe that she was like, this extreme stand-up citizen. Like who would do something like this? I was so shocked, I was very impressed. Like her statement was, there's, so everyone's walks the walk condemns this condemns that. But nobody would actually walk away and hurt themselves. - Yeah, no, everybody still continues to profit it, you know, inadvertently platform it by putting themselves on the show and it's a huge sign of like unseen maturity. And someone who has a serious problem with what's going on, which is a lot of people, they might be like, you know what I'm gonna go on the show and I'm gonna tell 'em. But to actually walk away to be like that mature and evolved, to be like, I don't want any part of this. I don't want to be seen to support this in any way. I don't care if it's a detriment of like my finances and my career, like my morals and my values are more important to me. - Wow. - Wow, I just, I was shocked reading this genuinely and it also pretty much confirms that production will continue to film with Taylor and share her story. - And we knew that. - Yeah. - I wonder what she found out last week. - Yes, like what is the more stuff? And I remember even when the production pause happened and then the video came out of the barstools. I remember the girls like Miranda and people were saying, like there's so much more that you guys don't know. Like we had to pause because we found out all this stuff and like there's so much more, there's so much more. And I just feel like they're always saying there's so much more. Like can someone tell us, 'cause it's really hard to adjudicate when we have the more in the room with us? - 10% of the information it seems like. - It's so true. - Michaela and Taylor were like beefing on TikTok. Michaela had posted some like snarky TikTok towards Taylor. There was some responding to when Taylor said in the show like Michaela needs to be humbled. And then Taylor posted like something in response about how like she commented on a creator's video who was like recapping the drama. And she was like, this is bullying at this point. I'm pretty sure she spelled it B-U-L-L-L-I-N-G which is the way they pronounce it, bullying. - Well like, they say so many things for real. - No, and they say like understand. Like they always have an S-H in place of it. - Utah accent is very real. - Yeah, and then I saw a comment like, oh, that Michaela won't associate with anyone who is associated with Taylor. She like cut off like Miranda or something 'cause she's associated with Taylor. And then Taylor posted a video of like screenshots of Jace following Taylor being like, well your man is still associates with me. And I think like I'm sure Jace didn't know that he's still followed Taylor. - No, and I'm sorry. All of Taylor's TikToks recently are about her like finding the Lord and finding celibacy. So it's like, if you really are wanting us to believe you're on this healing journey, why the fuck are you like making TikToks about Michaela's man, you know? - Yeah. - Yeah, and then I saw a really strange comment by Taylor that like hasn't been dissected yet. So I feel like it might not be what I think it's about, but it was something about like, I don't even want to repeat it because I think I might have my wires crossed that I can't imagine she would see something like this, like to Jason Michaela. - It was like something about like thinking, like using Taylor and the bedroom or something. I don't know. I have to find it. - She's disgusting. - I have to wait, I think if you give me a minute, I don't want to like. - Yes, I will also say Jackie pointed out to me yesterday that Michaela is currently I think in Milan or somewhere with all the women, they're clearly filming. So I do think similar to how we found out Whitney was leaving but then we still got a season. I think we will have one more season with Michaela and then that'll be that. But they're sort of dropping like flies over there. - How do you find like drama information? - You know what I mean? - You could Google like Salama, Michaela T. Well, it probably happened on TikTok. What exactly are you looking for? - A comment that Taylor Frankie Paul left on in a TikTok comment about Jason? - Yes. Gemini's trying to help me. - Oh, I found it, what is it? - So he had commented, okay, so she made a TikTok saying, let me get this straight. She cuts off anyone that supports me. So who's gonna tell her? Oh, I guess he can. And it's the fact that Jason still follows her. So Jason commented, what the hell? This is how I find out you don't follow me anymore. That's funny. And she said, I'm so irrelevant. You thought of me to seek advice in the bedroom. I guess when they were going to their intimacy issues, maybe he reached out to Taylor 'cause she's like sort of like the advanced one in the group. - Is that what happened? I thought that would come. - I'm guessing. - Jason's so inappropriate. - Taylor is a fucking crazy person. - Yeah, she really is. - She really is. - Well, that was easy to find. You got to get on TikTok. - How did you do it? How did you find it? - I searched Taylor Freaky Paul comment, Jason and it came up. - The comment just shows up. - We kept videos like drama channels. - Yeah. - I honestly didn't get through the drama channels. - We kind of are a drama channel. - We are. I always like, I don't want to be at all, but when they show those clips on the secret lives of people. - Of course I know. - Commentating on the drama. I'm like surprised and glad that we're not on there. - Well, I know that we're not on there because we have been used. - And they have to reach out for rights. - Fred, they like have to sign over the license and stuff. So I knew we weren't gonna be on it. And honestly, like I didn't want to be a part of that. - When they use people's TikTok videos, do they have to get the rights? Maybe not. - I have no idea. - 'Cause I feel like-- - Maybe that's why they do TikTok. - Yeah, yeah. I think so too. - Yeah, that's why they-- - When they take our podcast, they have to license it. - That's why they don't include. - No, I didn't just mean I don't want to be on. - No, I want to say, just when I was starting to like Michaela, she disappears. I respect this decision wholeheartedly. Like it's very rare to see someone walk the walk and talk the talk. - Yeah. - And I commend her. She will be missed. I saw Macy, people were commenting. Macy, like are you also leaving? She was like, I'm filming now and thinking about it. So I just feel like she's getting pressured to also do the integrity thing. And she's like, not doing it. And I understand it. It's like, this terrible person is going to come in the way of me supporting for my family. Like, no, actually, I just think you can make the argument. Like, you know what, I'll have, you know, I can be more effective if I'm on the show and I'm calling out the behavior and I'm raising the red flag. And that is a good argument too, but like, just to walk away from it is so mature and a big of a person. And I just hope that in the last two years, like she's made more money, then she'll ever really need. And she can live comfortably and she'll have brand deals and she's tons of followers. Yeah, she'll still make a ton of money just for being like a high profile influencer. But yeah, you don't. And that's what we were saying about like that tier of girls who like never like really switched up their life too much, have enjoyed all the benefits. But do you see McKayla's house? Like, she seriously lives in, I think, the same house since season one. Like, she doesn't seem to live beyond her means. Yeah, so I think that's great for her. And it's a good place to be up because then you don't need the show. And then you can leave on your own terms. And I also think that she's definitely on season six, which is going to be like the batch lorette fallout 'cause that was months ago. And she maybe even filmed after that. Like, she's gonna do the same way Whitney quit the show, but we still watching her. We're going to be watching her for like, at least another year before she's out. I bet this just makes like Whitney feel good about her decision, like everything that's happened 'cause she made her decision before all of this. And now it's like, yeah, who the hell wants to be a part of this? It's so low brow. No, but she made her decision. I thought after like the batch lorette drama. No, because her decision was all about like Broadway. It had nothing to do with the fact that like, the show was in jambals. No, but like right now in the show, Whitney's on Broadway and the bad shirt is about to come out. It's flashin' off. Did Whitney leave the show like three weeks into Broadway? So I got a question. I feel like, yeah, I feel like she left it when she started Broadway. But we're following her. She's on the season when she starts Broadway. That's. When did Whitney love it leave secret lives? Announce. Announce. She announced her exit. May 4th. So when was the Bachelorette before that? April. Was Bachelorette before Westman? When did ABC cancel the Bachelorette? March. March, April. March. So yeah, after I guess that makes the decision easier. Oh, this is becoming this used to be like a fun show. And now it's seriously like trash. Yeah. And of course you can say. Of course you can say like production should you know take Taylor off the show and Michaela be on the show. But it's like they're not going to do that. The show needs Taylor's chaos in order to be a show. And Michaela's never going to stoop to that level. So like this is just it's wrong, but it's the way it goes. It's wrong, but it's right. It's wrong, but it's the way it goes. And I just think everyone should have a mens respect for her. I agree. Like seriously kudos to you. Yeah. And I do want to know like the more stuff. Yeah, everybody's going to need to stop like pussy footing around the more. Yeah, hopefully next season in what six months? That season was too short. I really needed to like a part two. It wasn't a season. Like that's the thing. It's it was a part one. I feel like we're in a mid-season finale. I feel like that too. Yeah, like a month. Don't drag it out. We might lose interest. Yeah. I almost did by the time the show came out. Like, no, I'm sorry. The second I started watching. I said I'm so bad. Oh, the second I started watching. But like before I'm like, I never really thought about it in a while. So yeah, I haven't thought about it in a while either. Just know. Okay, our next story. Macklemore has been dropped from the Ed Sheeran tour after his free Palestine speech at a September 4th concert at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey. So Ed Sheeran had a tour going on a stadium tour and he had tapped Macklemore to open for him. And on September 4th, Macklemore did it just so and turned it into an opportunity. A political rally to make it a rally for Palestine, stating free Palestine, wanting everyone in Gaza and the occupied West Bank to know that they had not been forgotten. Of course, people were upset about this. There was like petitions for him to drop Macklemore, which he wouldn't have done because he chose him. And Macklemore has been this person for many years. The whole time he does like Jew face. He dresses up as a Jew. He does Hitler salutes against an intentional choice because it's not like he's this insanely popular and demand artists who you want on your tour. Like, no, there is almost like that's who's opening for Ed Sheeran. No, he's certainly like a washed up has been artist who now just makes headlines because he uses like political movements like Israel and free Palestine, free Palestine, free Palestine. So since that, I didn't really, I hadn't been paying attention because I'm like, this is the world now. Like this stuff just happens. And I don't know what that means, but I can't think about it all the time and pay attention to it. And like fuck Ed Sheeran, fuck Macklemore, I'm on my way. You know? Yeah, there are so many people involved in this. And I don't know if I have a lesser opinion of anyone more than I do Ed Sheeran. Well, so here's what happened because and there was a signature with a protest with a bunch of signatures, like drop him, but like he would never. But then Robert Kraft slammed his dick on the table and told Ed Sheeran that he could not bring his tour to Gillette Stadium. If Macklemore was the opening artist and he also said a bunch of other stadium tour stadium owners are in agreement and he cannot tour there. Now he is set to play like 10 more stadium shows in the US. I think Macklemore was going to open for him at eight of them and they sort of forced Ed's hand and Ed dropped Macklemore from the show. And to be honest, like I said, like I don't know if I think I don't know, I don't know what I thought about Ed Sheeran before, but like I now hold such a low opinion of him because he couldn't make the decision to drop Macklemore based on his own values. And he also like almost hired him. Like the hiring seems so random to me because like I said, this is a huge stadium tour. Like Sabrina Carpenter opened for Taylor Swift. The opener for a stadium tour is not a nobody. Yeah. So to have chosen Macklemore who seriously is just like and obviously like I just like Macklemore, but this is just facts that completely unbiased like it's not successful or talented. Besides for one song from an actual over a decade ago, it's such an intentional choice. So you made that choice and then you couldn't you didn't do anything when there was backlash. And it wasn't until your own bottom line might have been affected. Like I just feel like he's spineless. Yeah, it's really crazy. He seems very committed to not taking a stance on the issue, which I have a lot of respect for. And I think you have every right to do. He's complicated, able to in all different like areas and conflicts like to have no opinion. Like seriously, I love that for you. Stay out of it. So to initially invite him on the tour when he is so outspoken and so polarizing and so hateful. Why would you do that if you really want to be that guy? Because now he's in this spot where like he has to drop him. Otherwise, he's making a huge statement and he doesn't want to make a huge statement. So why would you think what you thought you could like bait everyone and like you would get away with it and everyone would just have to be uncomfortable and he Macklemore could speak for you and you just get to play all innocent. What did you think was going to happen? And obviously Robert Kraft or his friends Colin Bob has been like getting heat now being like, you know, you're a billionaire using your and it's like, this is my place of business. I don't want this going on. They're like, he's well within his rights to have done that. Like let me say this whole situation once again is terrible for the Jews. Just like John Galliano, what's worse than it actually happening is that it being canceled. It's more rumors Jews control the world, right? They obviously don't. However, like Robert Kraft, yeah, control your state. We happen to have a Jew in a high place and I control your stadium because people don't know how to behave. And so even if it feels more, you can't say it more, it can't be worse right now really. So say Jews could draw the world because Macklemore had to be dropped from Ed Sheeran, whatever. Yeah, I just like, I'm focused here on how big of a loser Ed Sheeran is. And the funny thing is that I think sort of what's uniting the world is that people from both sides like hate Ed Sheeran now, you know what I mean. And he had wanted to set up the unification. But like he refused to do anything pro or anti or just like sort of let this whole thing like happen to him. And so yeah, everyone hates him now. And I think that's funny. Yeah, it is funny. And I'm sure he's having like a really bad week like PR wise, especially because like being aside from the fact when you want to go to like Robert Kraft's stadium for the most part, like being free Palestine, like is good for business career, you know, because anyone who's like an outspoken Zionist just suffers and is isolated and look at pink. I mean, look at Gal Gadot. Look at the boy from Stranger Things. It's been less than a week for pink. And like literally, I feel that the damage done to her reputation. You see Elizabeth Banks. Yeah. Tell everyone, the banks is a loser. Elizabeth Banks sat next to pink at the US Open. And they posted this carousel of photos of her at the US Open and like literally cut pink out of every single one. Yeah. Yeah. So it doesn't pay to be pro Israel. No, it's not at all. It does to be free Palestine, look at Mark Ruffalo, look at Billie Eilish, look at all of these people kind of on Bender who just get to act like a victim, yet they're thriving. So yeah, that Ed Sheeran now has to be in this position. It's kind of gorgeous. Yeah, it is poetic. Yeah, you literally did this to yourself. Nobody was asking to see Macklemore open up for you. There are so many like wine email artists right now who would be perfect opening up for you. Like what about Alex Warren? No, I can't even stress how like opening acts. Obviously, you know, you think it's like a shitty gig opening up for Ed Sheeran and Sadie. I came to opening up for Taylor Swift. Like it's not nothing. So the people who would be a part of that lineup are not on the rise even. They're risen. Yeah, and it was such a bad choice, almost, you know, an intentional choice. And so for you to have ended so poorly for Ed Sheeran, I'm personally thrilled by that. Yeah. So I'm going to have a hard time on Friday deciding between Robert Kraft and Michaela Matthews for Queenie of the Week. Honestly, Michaela Matthews, like it's like, it's like not that I'm not diminishing what Robert Kraft did, but like it's easy to whip your tick around like when you have a billion dollars. Like Michaela Matthews is just a girl like up against a network. Yeah, that's true. It's like David and Goliath. Yeah, but it's like go you can talk your shit, but not here. Yeah. Yeah. I was reading Macklemore statement and like it's so crazy like the the obsession that he has and he thinks he's so brave. I'm going to say these I'm taking the stage to say these two words. It's like you are seriously sipping for a terrorist organization. Like you don't actually care. And he also said October 7th was like just if I've resistance. So like he's a piece of shit. He does do face. He's an anti-Semite. He wants to say no. He wants to say I don't need Jews. I just have criticism of the Israeli government. Like we know what that means. So why are you doing pile Hitler if you don't hate Jews? You're a piece of garbage. Like seriously. Yeah. Everyone who liked his post unfollowed. Thank you. Honestly, it was no one. One girl. I didn't even know why he followed. Like I actually didn't follow. Yeah. It couldn't be happening to a worse person for real. And I'm loving it. And I just want to say like this is not good for the Jews. Honestly, like it's just going to people like more hate. I went to look at Michael Moore's statement like yesterday afternoon he had 6.7 million followers and then later that night I went back to like show someone someone something and he was at over 7 million and the the post has like what almost 4 million and he's at 7.2 This is really really horrible. I'm at someone else. I'm sorry. Just got to do that. Oh, you found someone else. Oh, yeah, it's great. I was following too many people. Um, what a crazy saga, honestly. Yeah. Oh, another one. Another one bites the dust. Do you? Do you? What was at the fourth story that you said would be those are four stories? Okay, okay. Taylor at the game, the Emmys, Michaela Matthews, Mackelmore. My number one story is Michaela Matthews. Yeah, but I just felt like I couldn't put that first. Given like how big of a night for TV. Yeah. Okay, our fifth and final story. Stage coach 2027 lineup, Garth Brooks, Riley Green and Zack top will be headlining. I am so upset. Why? You're telling me Kelly Clarkson is performing before Riley Green and Zack top. Like the disrespect is insane. First of all, not even to have a female headliner. Like, okay. Sorry. And I like Riley Green. I actually listen to his music. A headliner. He is not. Now I don't know Zack top. And I feel like maybe I like missed out on the whatever. So I can't judge whether or not he's an adequate. But like I also feel that he's not into like to seriously to grade Kelly Clarkson into opening up like for one of these artists. It's like I feel it's disgusting. Well, she's opening for Garth Brooks, which I do think is based on like the lines. Yeah, but maybe she wanted to perform on a Sunday. Like maybe because I do think if she wanted to imagine if they offered her the headlining, she would say no, I'd rather go Sunday second to last. I don't know. And also like Laska's late. She's a mama. I feel like this has more to do with her than it does. No, I don't disrespect because she could also just easily not do stage coach. No, I think it's I think it's like genuine disrespect. I want to throw up when I saw this. So here are like the big names on Friday. We have Riley Green as the headliner headliner before him. Hardy and brother. So I was born and then throughout the day is also Shabuzy Stella lefty Cameron Whitcomb. I'm just going based on the people that like I know and like Cameron Whitcomb is great. That'll be great Saturday. Saturday's a top. I mean, like I've heard of him. He's definitely new. It's it's really not headline material. Yeah. And then before him is Willie Nelson. And I think other people would make the argument that you're making for Kelly about 1000% that will see Willie Nelson should be that obviously headlining and journey. And I feel that so much of country music is like respecting the artists who came before you. And Willie Nelson opening up for his act of like is not Congress with the values I know country music to have. Yes, also Charlie Crockett Stephen Wilson Jr. who's like literally nominated for everything. The fray. Asha Ingrid Andres good luck to her. Hopefully it's not another national anthem. I like how like this genres a little mixed. Yeah, it's less country and more like not pop. And then there's Sunday Garth Brooks Kelly Clarkson Pitbull. I think I have to go for just like that hour and a half of Kelly and I love Pitbull like I hate this. I like it. Like one mainstream country music festival. And now it's like getting co-opted. And I'm actually I'm not even mad at like Pitbull because to be honest the country roster is really not doing it for me either. Yeah, like let's supplement with Pitbull. It feels like the big dogs like didn't want to do it. You know, because if Luke or Morgan wanted one of these spots, it would be theirs. I feel like there's sort of supplementing like maybe it's not an amazing like high paying desirable gig. I think it is like I really do. I think it also it's something that a lot of artists want just like for the prestige. But yeah, Luke, Morgan, even Zach Brian, like all the bigs, the ones who play stadiums and arenas, Casey Mustgraves, like not like all missing from Ella Blake Shelton Ella. Yeah, I lady Wilson, like, where is everyone? I don't know. It seems like the staple. It's not desire. I'm going with that. Yeah. And then late night, we have Florida, Georgia line Sean Paul, Florida. I saw Florida, Georgia line a couple of days ago teasing this they like made this video. And they're really trying to recapture the magic of whenever they were and I'm so down, but like I don't know if you saw how committed they are. There's two. The Democrat and the Republican, right? That's how I know them. I can never remember their names. Brian and Tyler back in the day. The Democrat had like that long hair, like a bob, he grew it out. Okay. That's commitment, commitment to like they're trying to literally rep. Oh, he grew. He's short hair back to his lob because then he had his solo career where he had like a buzz cut. I didn't recognize that he brought the lob back is what he means. He has the lob back and he had a buzz cut like normal hair for years. Like he's been off the lob for the better half of a decade. But now the Florida, Georgia line is trying to recreate, they're taking a very copypaste approach, even the hair. Yeah, but is it like, are they going the Jonas brother is back she boys around with like nostalgia? Like let's create those good old days. Of course, it wasn't giving nostalgia. It was just giving like truly pick more or like you are trying to compete with Ella Langley and Morgan Wallen. And you think like because you were the Morgan Wallen of the 2010s. So are you, are you trying to like for those of us who were there? Like cater to us, or you're trying to get to top the charts again. I guess we'll see like if they play a lot of new music or if they just go down memory lane. I'm not sure because they could be very tell they could be the Jonas brothers of country music. Yeah, it's hard to imagine like where they would be. If they hadn't broken up because I do think like they were very much on track to be like even more famous than Morgan Wallen. Yeah, because they really transcended genres and Morgan is so, so successful, but really within country. I mean, that's also like Sam Hunt, too. I know you hate him, but like he was also I agree with number one like viral guy. And people just all over loved him because he was like, so handsome and Dan and Shay tequila. Dan and Shay tequila. Yeah. It's hard to be the duo. Dan and Shay and Florida George line should go on a joint tour. One thousand brothers, Hillary Duff, nostalgia country tour. Love that for like the people. And like how he's saying nostalgia for something that was 10 years ago. Yeah, and for people like us, I mean like millennials who like aren't really consuming that much new music. Like a little bit sure, but like we just want to hear our favorite songs and like a rock out. A hundred percent. I just want to rock out. And that's all we've ever wanted. It's true. I've been consistent in that. No, no that's that's all on that. Well, those are the fast-paced stories. We still have to your toaster. So before we dive in, let me just remind you that to your toasters. And this episode ad placement is paid for by Beth and Body Works. 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That like she's going through something that so many women go through and like, you know. I like her, yeah. Right. I'm so firmly against this. She talked down to me because she works in OBGYN, in an OBGYN office and I do not. And I just left our dinner feeling really gross. I saw her again this past weekend due to a mutual group of friends being in town. And I asked to not discuss it with her. She brought it up. And I truly am not sure how I can maintain friends with someone who supports a literal psychopath. Do I just blow it off? Or can I be done with being her friend? Because I don't like her anyways. Minus that. There's a lot of history there. Well, you don't like her anyways. So like, don't be friends with someone that you don't like. Now let's take, yes. And I actually also think, I don't know if you saw, like there was like a couple of news story, like a man leaves his wife for her take on Lindsay Clancy. Like I actually think more often than that. I'm not the type of person who believes that like people with different political differences can't be friends or even married, although I do think that's very complicated. Like I don't like to be that type of person. Like I do think that human beings can and should work through most things. Now I have experienced this two words. Like I actually find myself like shifting opinions of what I think of people based on their Lindsay Clancy take, like genuinely. And I can't help it. I think it's such a layered issue. And it's so it's so dark that like, yeah, I can't help myself. But I actually think that you should not be friends with this girl. Yeah. And I think maybe she or her friend who agrees with her will be telling the same thing about you. Like I actually think like if you disagree with somebody on this like fundamentally, it really is not a match. Friendship or otherwise. Yeah, I think that there are a couple issues, not every issue, but there are a couple things. At least for me that are like a true test. If you don't agree with someone on that. That are a true test of like if we could see eye to eye about most things. And for me, this would be one of them. If I had a friend who very much very strongly to the point that she couldn't not talk about it, because the right thing to do is be like, let's not talk about it. We disagree and it's it's getting messy. But the fact that you said that. And she stills talking about it. So if I had a friend that could not stop talking about it. And that was her in my opinion. Awful take, wrong take, evil take. That's it for me. I'm out. Yeah, I think that this is an exceptional circumstance, because I really don't, I think a lot of people automatically are like, oh, you can't be friends with that person. They're hateful. It's like, well, no, they just have a different opinion than you. Like calm down. I think that this is one of a few issues that at least for me personally, and this is not universal. But I think if you're feeling like you can be friends with this person, like you probably are my type of person, like I, I think, especially if you sound like you have reasons to get rid of her anyway, outside of it. I'm okay with this friendship ending. Yeah. And if it's so like core to her personality, like, and some people like sometimes an issue or a political thing happens, and they just make it their personality. And that's it. And I know what I can't be. And that's also just annoying. So like if that's who you are now, not my kind of person. Are you following juror 11, the lone rural juror? Like, and all the information that's coming out about him? What's all the information? So one of the jurors went on Gayle Kaye. I saw this. I saw this. And Gayle was like asking a lot of questions about like the socioeconomic backgrounds, the racial backgrounds of how many men, how many women, how many black, how many women. And they eventually like, the woman wasn't offering up the information until Gayle sort of figured it out herself. And she said there was only one person of color, and it was a man. And Gayle was like, wait, is the hold out juror a person of color? And the female juror was like, yes. And Gayle said she needed to sit with that. And that sort of like took the internet by storm. I guess like people weren't expecting that. Not that it makes a difference. And then this local NBC station in Boston, like figure. By the way, I had said last week, and I do want to make a correction that a picture of the-- - Chair. - Lone juror got leaked. The picture I saw was of a white man. So obviously like that leak was fake. - Okay. - People had not figured out who it was. - Yes. - NBC. This, honestly, the juror should sue NBC. His identity has not been revealed yet, but they combed their court documents and found that he has a criminal record. He owes like a bunch of background. And then there was like a, he was like the police got called on him for like a domestic violence dispute with his wife, who's now his ex-wife. And so like now like obviously we have to make the Lone juror into, like they hate him and he's a criminal. But all this information is getting leaked about him. And it's like, why would anyone want to be a juror? Like literally ever. - Well, you have to be. And nobody wants to be-- - No, I'm sorry. - What he wants to be is the funny thing. No, but like if not, you're not, the one thing that good being a juror had for you was like you would maintain your privacy, right? And it's like, and that was something I feel that everybody really respected. Unless the person wanted to go on TV and there have been a bunch of the women going on TV, I like, I think it's so crazy that like all this information about the guy, even though his name and identity have not been revealed, all this like sort of leading details and information about him have been like leaked and they're being reported like everywhere. - Yeah, including his race. - Well, yes, his race, but I guess that's like on the other juror to share. I don't know, I don't know if she did anything wrong. - I don't think she did anything wrong. And I think those are like fair questions. And honestly, maybe it's not fair in the grand scheme of things, but given that this case has garnered so much national attention, like I actually, I think that fact is sort of like put people in a tailspin. - Yes, they didn't know that Gail's king said she needed to sit with that. - Yeah, yeah, I think-- - I also heard he might be gay. I don't know if that's true, but like people are just like obsessed with like these facts. They said it was an older gentleman. - Yeah, I think that I, maybe it's hungry, I think it's interesting. - Yeah, I do too, but I like feel bad. Like unless you're, a lot of them, you know, left the courthouse and called up TMZ. Like a lot of them want this. And I can imagine not wanting to. - And when we said like this person obviously could go and tell their story or sell their story or whatever, but like if it is like an older person, they're probably not interested, they just sat on the jury. And they came up with the decision that they thought was best. And because maybe it's like an older person, they couldn't really be swayed by what people were telling them and all these like women yelling at him. Like-- - Well, I just think it's funny that like now we know he has like a allegation of domestic violence against him. Like everybody's so aghast. But like Lindsay Clancy, literally strangled her three kids. Like what are we talking about? - What are we talking about? - Aghastness, and also all of that would have come up in jury selection, right? You have to. [BLANK_AUDIO] also a discussion is like a lot. I think if you have a criminal record, sometimes you're not allowed to be on a jury. So I don't know how that information people might say, I think you have to go to jury duty. You have to try and serve. That's everybody's like civic duty. But if you have a criminal record and you say that, and then you'll be excused because they don't want that. But I'm sure he disclosed that information and he was still chosen. Right. And also they can look up that information too. Like truly a thankless job. I would never want to be on a jury like for real. I'm going to say next like this has cured me. Sometimes I'm like, you know what? I could do it. This is I feel has really cured me. I'm just going to go in like next time I call for jury duty and say the most insane shit ever. You don't really have to because your the public nature of my job, the facts of your life being like a young working mother. Like the last time I did jury duty, I was like, I was like, you know what? Like I guess I'm I can be a juror. I mean, always say I'd be a really good juror. We always say that. So I was like going along and then I'm like, I'm sorry. Like I can't actually miss work. And I have like smile. I think I'm told in a child that like I actually like a primary care taker. Yeah. Like I actually can. And you actually like a lot of times if you if you take care of like an elderly. Yeah. Relative you can't get no 100% if you're like the provider and you have to go to work. Um, there are people who actually can't give in the day, the facts of their life. The requirements for you. You don't even have to start saying crazy stuff. Well, I'll still say it. Sure. You are litter. You would put something on my file. Say never let this bitch. Never. I know you. I would never. I am. You would be so. You would be so shy at jury duty. I'd end up being the foreman. That's where my shyness comes out. jury duty. I can't even be like, I can't. I have to wait for them to tell me I can't. Yeah. All right. Next up. Hey, Jackson Claude, I never thought I'd have an interesting enough problem to send in, but here we are. I'm 23 years old and I live in New York City. I'm currently a grad student. I'm an auntie for an affluent family. I am with the family minimum three nights a week. It's two girls. The parents are both married and they both work. Dad works from home. So I typically see him around the apartment. And he's almost always on the air pods. The parents are both married like to each other. Hmm. The parents are both married and work. I'm going to assume they're divorced, married to each other. Okay. The dad works from home. I typically see him around the apartment. He's almost always wearing air pods and very locked into his computer. Neither one of us have ever paid much attention to each other. Like most girls, my age in New York, I am on hinge. And I got home from work the other day. I was mindlessly scrolling and I saw that the dad had liked my profile. I was shook. I went to work the next day and acted like nothing happened. I've not said a word since, but I don't know what to do. Do I tell the mom, her husband is cheating on her on hinge? Do I confront the dad? Do I leave it alone? Act like it never happened because I don't know what agreements they might have. I'm a broke student who really can't afford to lose her job and wants to do the right thing. I'm serious. Seriously, not not my circus on my mind. It sounds like you have a great gig for this rich family. And like the, unless he like makes an advance, a very Paul G. Amadean, the nanny diaries, unless it goes any further, I feel like you can safely ignore this. Yeah. You tend like you didn't see it, ignore until you can't like all moral and tell the wife, but then it's like you're going to lose your job. No, don't get involved. I, yeah, not your, not your problem. Like, that's unfortunate. It will probably like escalate in some way. He will probably make an advance and you will have to. If you like grabs, yeah, then you have to, yeah, you have to leave. And I guess maybe it's like bad advice to tell you to like wait around until that happens, but it also could not. And I just want to say a lot of times people are capishes on hinge. It is possible. Like I've heard that happening. What happens to be the man that she lives with? Yeah. And I guess like your phones obviously know that you're like in close proximity with one another great match. No, it's 100% him. That's disgusting. Uh, so ignore until you can't, but that'll probably be in a couple of days from now. In the words of Ashley Dupree, like men are pigs. They all cheat. Yeah. That was, she was crazy. But it's like even if he was like a single dad or whatever. And she was like, that would be worse actually. It's like, it's as much about the cheating nature. It is about like the power dynamic and the fact that you guys are in the same house and that he would do something like that. Like what? No, it's like a boss. Sick. Oh, but it's worse than a boss because the job is so intimate. Of course, in the home, like it's terrible. Our third and final, I hate swerleys love you guys. I have a relationship question and I need to know if I'm in the wrong. I'm getting married later this year. And once we're married, my fiance wants to combine all of our bank accounts. I told him I wanted each of us to keep one separate one and just put like $50 to $100 a month in it. Nothing crazy. For small gifts for each other in case you have an emergency or something messy where to happen between us. He's looking at it. Like I don't trust him and I'm not fully committed. What's the right thing? I just don't think. Sorry. I don't want to just give in because I feel really strongly about this. But he's hurt and he's acting like I think he's going to run away with all of our money. We both have you enjoyed your summer break, but I'm so glad you're back. First of all, you made a mistake in what? In telling him I need to know everyone's financial situation here. I don't I feel like they seem like two young professionals on the same level because if he had like a lot of money, she would have said that like and I feel like what he's saying to and the way he's acting like is like someone that you can't financially trust. I don't know why, but like him meaning you trust me like that's interesting. I and I also think that you should have your own account for like so many reasons both serious and benign, but like you should be able to do what you want when you want and not have to answer, especially if you are working and and same for him. So like I'd like the idea of separate and joint personally. I think that's a nice thing to have. And I think that his especially if you're talking about 50 to $100 a month into a personal account. Like I don't know why that would upset him. Yeah, I didn't see this so much as a red flag, but I guess if you want to look in like him being controlling over your money. Sure. I I saw more of his like an image or anything. It's like we're getting married. We share everything. I just think every woman should have a separate bank account that honestly her husband doesn't know about. I think you never should have told him what the fuck does he need his own bank account for? He doesn't. You do. He doesn't make your own account on the side. And it's called a conipple where you like, you know, you just so way money for a rainy day. Just in case you should never like your husband should not know all that's how you can end up in financial abuse, which is a real form of abuse. Like you need a little account. If you ever needed anything, you need to run. You need to go. You have a little something on the side, even if it's a box of cash under your mattress. Yeah, but also like taking away those extreme circumstances just for like your daily operating. Like you want to have freedom. You don't want to have to explain everything as long as you are working. That is your money. And you're giving him the option to do the same thing as you. Well, and I think you're wrong for that because I think we always talk about how like men and women are different and there are situations where men can do something and a woman can't and a woman can do something and I don't think that a man can have his own bank account. Honestly, I think that's weird and shady and like it never leads to good things. And I think a woman like it is integral to her survival that she has one. Yeah. So I think that you should tell him that he's right. He should put all his money into the joint. And that you're right. And he'll keep him out. Yeah, I wouldn't even tell him. Yeah, agreed. Like just drop it and like make your own account on the side, go to like some. But I just think it's a different, totally different bank like a richwood savings or whatever. His insistence regarding like what amounts to maximum $100 a month is strange. Well, yes, I think if you wanted to look deeper into that, like maybe we could find fault and like potentially, you know, controlling of the finances, like is a little bit of a red flag. Yeah. I wasn't even thinking controlling, but just like not. I don't know, like just that seems like a very normal situation to have like a small personal account and a joint account. So what is his expectation for like marriage? If you can't have any independence. I also don't think that there is a standard way to do finances. I think some people keep everything in the modern world. I agree. Yeah, it's not. It's not a one size fits all. I think that people do what works with them, completely agree. But I do think like if I had to prescribe like what I think a healthy situation is for, you know, two working people, young people. And also, but then it's also like if the woman's not working with a separate issue that has to be dealt with, but to have like personal accounts and a joint account, I think is healthy. Yeah, I think so too. I don't think that's like a bad option, but it's not what it used to be. No, but and how did it used to be like one account because I think there was like a family account that the women really knew nothing about, but technically had access to. And then they also men mostly had separate accounts too for like, you know, flandering. Yeah, and like the family account was like for groceries. I was just watching Mad Men and they got a bank as a client and they were offering this thing called like executive accounts, which is basically just for men to have their own separate account so that women can access to, you know, by liquor and prostitutes. Yeah. Things of that nature. No, also not good. Well, that's what your toasters. Thank you to everyone who wrote in. That's our weekly advice segment. If you ever want to write in, you can send us an email to your [email protected] or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. There's a little submission box, totally anonymous. Don't worry, I won't ever blow up your stuff. And thanks to everybody who wrote in. We really appreciate your vulnerability and transparency. Thank you so much for listening to the Toastle Monday morning show. We know the fastest stories. You need to know every Monday through Friday and YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The hosts discuss the emotional impact of Taylor Swift’s appearance at a Chiefs game with Tom Cruise, noting her new haircut as a positive change and reflecting on her growing confidence despite public scrutiny.
  2. A major Emmy award show critique highlights the awkwardness of first-woman hosting, the overuse of commercial breaks, and the underrepresentation of diverse perspectives, while celebrating standout wins like Jean Smart's multiple wins and the success of *Widow’s Bay*.
  3. The episode features a powerful narrative about Michaela Matthews leaving *Secret Lives of Mormon Wives* due to moral conflict over toxic behavior, emphasizing her integrity and the broader issue of content creators profiting from harmful narratives.

Summary:

The episode blends entertainment and commentary, beginning with a heartfelt discussion of Taylor Swift’s recent appearance at a Chiefs game with Tom Cruise, where her new haircut is praised as a bold, confident evolution. The hosts reflect on her growing independence from public scrutiny, noting her absence of alcohol and careful storytelling as signs of personal growth. They then transition into a critical yet appreciative review of the Emmy Awards, highlighting the absurdity of award shows’ commercial breaks, the underrepresentation of diverse voices, and the emotional resonance of standout performances—particularly Jean Smart’s historic wins and the surprise success of *Widow’s Bay*.

A major focus is on Michaela Matthews’ decision to exit *Secret Lives of Mormon Wives*, citing her moral opposition to the show’s platforming of toxic behavior and abuse, which the hosts view as a rare act of integrity. They also explore the deeper dynamics of online drama, including Taylor Swift’s TikTok comments referencing intimacy issues with Michaela’s partner, which reveal contradictions in her public statements. The discussion concludes with a broader reflection on accountability in media, the importance of personal values over profit, and the evolving role of influencers and media figures in shaping public narratives.

The episode concludes on an empowering note, celebrating courage, authenticity, and the quiet strength of individuals choosing integrity over fame.

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The family gave S.J.P. a gift — a framed photo of her mother, Cible, looking beautiful and pregnant — which deeply moved everyone and brought tears to the viewer's eyes.

She struggled to express herself clearly, repeatedly saying 'that's not what I mean,' and her boyfriend, Georgia Rule, challenged her to find the words to say what she truly meant.

He only appeared on Christmas morning, walking in and saying 'Merry Christmas,' suggesting he was absent for most of the time, which raised questions about his involvement in the family.

The host praised Mariska for being non-divisive, entertaining, and politically neutral, highlighting her potential as a future household name and a trailblazer for inclusive representation.

After being diagnosed with stiff person syndrome, she taught herself how to sing again, showing incredible resilience and determination, with her performance of a signature note being especially emotional.

The sketch humorously speculated whether Taylor Swift would attend the Emmys, using clues like dates and TV show references, hinting at potential new music or media announcements.

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