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The transcription covers various topics related to China, starting with recommendations for cultural engagement and the establishment of the China Pai School to teach Chinese in an unconventional manner. It delves into the challenges and advantages of learning Chinese, especially in professional contexts. An interview with a Spanish chef explores the connection between love and cooking, traditional Chinese recipes, and experiences during the pandemic. Furthermore, the conversation highlights the importance of LGBTQ+ inclusivity and normalization within Chinese culture, underscoring personal stories and the impact of representation.
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I'll recommend you a book or a movie or anything else that I can think of.
What will help you get closer to China?
I'll have a classic idea to more special proposals.
Also, if you think of people who are always looking for something to do for the weekend
and above all have to do with China, I'll recommend you a plan.
What do I say? Plan! Plan AZO to do the weekend.
You will no longer have an excuse to stay at home.
Another thing we'll do is solve doubts, questions and listen to advice from other countries
that send us messages to the ozone hole.
What will they tell us?
See you discovering it in the rest of the episode.
And finally, you are going to listen to an interview that we do with people related to China.
From cooks, actresses, content creator, illustrators.
Guess who will go through the program?
I advance that you have a lot to say.
And that you are going to share very interesting things.
And now that you know what this project is about,
I'm going to tell you a little bit more about our other project.
The China Pai School.
Once upon a time, not so long ago,
a 32-year-old girl studied Chinese law in China
and learned the language and its culture.
She returned to Spain with an idea.
To teach the Chinese language in a different way than the traditional one.
She wanted other students to not feel like she was frustrated
because she studied Chinese for many years,
but when she arrived in China, she didn't know anything
and she went through it a little bit regularly.
In addition, she had many motivations
that were not integrated into the study of Chinese,
such as art, theater, or movies.
And she saw that they were never spoken of as a theme,
such as the collective LGTBQ Plus,
so she felt a little bit out of place.
She decided to create the school she would have liked to go to.
I want to study Chinese, yes,
but I also want to be able to talk about my reality
and have the content that I did less when I studied.
That's why she decided not to use books
and I created all the materials from scratch.
They knew that it was going to be hard, very expensive,
and that she would not have all the doors of the open world.
But she decided to defend what she already defended
and create something different.
And well, that was me.
And I have been in front of this project for two years
that I am passionate about,
about China through entertainment and fun.
And you?
You join me in this trip to China,
to your people, to your food, to your smells,
to your movies, to your art in all its essence.
And you, where do you live?
And right now I am in Madrid,
although with the rest of the teachers,
the teacher of the school,
we give online classes to people from all over the world.
In this first season,
the plans will be the last discoveries that we have made here.
But the following programs we will talk about
the rest of Spain and the world.
So,
in case you pass by Madrid or live here,
today I will recommend you a typical restaurant of Sichuan.
Sichuan is located in the southwest of China,
and its cuisine is famous all over the world.
Not only because it has the most spicy dishes,
but also because of its flavor.
In both things,
the pepper of Sichuan is the great responsibility.
That's why the food here is considered one of the best in the country.
So, if you haven't tried it yet,
you have to go to this restaurant.
To the end,
Sichuan Kitchen,
on the street of the number 4 warrior teacher,
so that you can find behind the square of Spain.
And if you get to this beautiful restaurant
and you don't know what to order,
go to these dishes that are my favorites.
Langostinos with Pao,
Mapo Tofu,
and Fried Rice of Sichuan.
Although any dish you choose will be all true.
And now, let's go with our lunchbox.
Hello, Pao.
How are you doing?
I'm fine.
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Well, we can focus on a very serious topic,
because it's a question that a lot of people ask me.
Is Chinese difficult or not?
That's the question.
Well, I always say that life is not easy or difficult,
but there are things that require more or less effort and consistency.
It's an idiom that, when you explain it to us, we understand everything quite quickly.
In fact, the logic of the idiom is quite overwhelming.
It has no conjugations, gender or number.
All this makes it very easy for us to learn.
The difficulty lies in its pronunciation to be a tonal idiom,
since, to pronounce it correctly, it requires a lot of perseverance and a lot of practice.
This is added to the fact that it is an idiom that does not have a letter but it understands.
What makes it so that to learn it, we have, again,
to be tenacious and dedicate a lot of time to it.
So, I ask myself, is it a difficult idiom or does it lack persistence?
There I leave it.
And about its advantages, they are a lot from the first day.
When you get close to the Chinese idiom, it is directly relating to its culture.
Learning about a millenary culture is enriching on a personal level,
but it is that, on a professional level, it is a plus demanded in many sectors.
The companies that make business with China, which are a lot,
want people who can not only speak the language,
who, for them, most of the time already have interpreters or native people,
but people who understand their culture, their business world,
who know how to relate and create a good relationship from the beginning with them.
So, if you are still doubting it, let me tell you that studying Chinese
will open many doors for you,
that right now you cannot even imagine.
Me, as a lawyer, having studied Chinese, I had the opportunity to live there for three years.
In practice, in one of the ten best Chinese lawyers of Shanghai,
I have written in newspapers, I have given talks at universities,
in a commercial room, on the radio, on television.
Like all this, is not enough for me?
Until I get to create my own Chinese school.
And with all this, I hope to have encouraged you to start
or resume your Chinese study.
See you at our school, bye bye!
Remember that if you have questions, doubts or suggestions,
or just want to say, "Hello",
then send us an audio by direct message from Instagram
and we will answer it right here, in the hearing booth.
And now, let's go with our interview,
or as I call it, the five questions.
For many years,
the main contact of our country with China was through its plate.
Some say that cooking is the diplomacy of the current agent.
Today, we have with us a premier Spanish cook,
whose story also serves as a bridge between
Tom Fang and Xi Fang, between East and West.
Today, we have the honor of having with us...
Mario!
Mario, welcome and thank you for making a hole in your agenda.
It makes us very excited to be able to tell you about this episode.
Thank you very much for inviting me.
You made me even more excited.
Well, let's introduce you a little,
although I think that everyone who doesn't listen already knows you.
You were born in Chiclana, on the border in Cádiz.
From Madre Gaditana and Padre Jhonconés.
You have told us on numerous occasions
that the passion for cooking is the heir to your father.
So we wanted to ask you,
did you usually cook traditional Chinese recipes?
And if that's the case, what dish do you remember most?
Well, the truth is that my father was the cook of the house,
because Madre didn't like it very much.
Now he makes five dishes, which is amazing.
But my father fell in love with something from Spain,
it was astronomy.
So I think he focused a lot on the product we have in Spain.
And I remember a few dishes from my father from China,
but I have two or three there,
and I think it comes to my mind a lot.
There are a few dishes that are made from sweet potatoes,
I think it's the part of Hélène Jhonconés,
and that's where it's cooked.
Yes, it's cooked very sweetly.
Exactly.
And I always remember that I loved mixing it with salt,
not with white rice, but with white rice.
It's good.
It's good that you don't have salt, you don't have anything.
Yes, nothing, it's just cooked, it's delicious.
Exactly.
You mix these sauces and you make a white rice,
which is amazing.
And there's a recipe that I loved doing,
because it's all the urbanization where we lived before,
I was in love with my father's love,
waiting for him to do it.
It was a private project.
I remember that I came from Barcelona,
whenever I came to Barcelona I would come with the plates of the dough.
Of course.
And it was a very simple private project,
with colza, carrots and onions.
Exactly.
A little more, a little more, a Chinese sandwich,
that we always take with us.
Yes, but everyone was crazy about the recipe,
the truth is that my father had a lot of hands in cooking.
For me, cooking is the language of love.
I mean, I know it literally as love.
I think Chinese culture is also very like that.
Exactly.
It's like telling me that it doesn't give me a picture.
It doesn't give me so much picture,
but it tells me how the meat of this fish is cooked.
What is the best meat?
I don't know, eat this meat,
because it explains everything to me,
and gives me all its love through cooking.
And I think it's very Asian,
and it's something that I think is beautiful.
I'm kind of cool in that sense,
that I'm very cold.
Normally my reaction is with my friend,
my partner and others.
But I show the love cooking.
For example, my friend gets sick,
and they send me any nonsense and I say,
"I'm going to make you a soup."
Exactly.
"I'm going to make you a soup,
five hours in the kitchen."
"I'm going to make you a soup with that."
That person knows that I love her with madness.
But I show the love, yes?
I don't care, I don't care.
In fact, sometimes it happens to my partner
that you know that she tells me
that she likes me sometimes.
Exactly.
She's hugging me.
Something that I have integrated
in my way of relating to intimate relationship.
Exactly.
But of course, she cooks for me and...
And she shows it.
She shows the love that I give her.
Exactly.
Let's move on to the next question.
You know that our school is committed
to the collectivity of the EGTVQ Plus,
to normalize it within the Chinese culture,
that many times we think that one thing
doesn't have much to do with the other.
There's an old legend that tells that the Emperor Ai,
from the Qing dynasty,
was lost in love with one of his employees,
specifically Ton Xi'an.
One morning, when the Emperor woke up,
he realized that he had fallen asleep
on his manga.
Such was the love that Ai felt for Don,
that, in order not to wake him up,
he preferred to cut his Hanfu manga,
which is his Chinese costume.
Is it true or not the anecdote?
I think so.
Cutting manga is an expression that is used
to refer to sexual relationships
between men in China.
I imagine that you've never had to tell
a manga about someone,
but could you tell us
what is the greatest madness that you have
done for love?
Well, I would tell you
that I met Patti,
my current girlfriend,
and we just met on February 29th.
We didn't see each other for 10 days
because she was already in America,
when she used to work there,
before visiting those who worked
in a sanctuary in Orobo,
then in the impasse of February 22nd,
before starting Covid,
on March 16th,
which was the state of alarm,
I saw her once.
When she returned from America,
I went to her house to see her,
to tell her about the state of alarm,
and we were like,
"Come on, let's go,
the whole state of alarm is with her."
It was crazy.
I literally just met her,
I had seen her twice in my life,
and we stayed together,
and it could have been horrible,
very bad, very bad.
But for me it was the best,
for me it was the best,
to suddenly meet a person
who is passionate about you,
and that you are getting to know each other,
and that you say,
"What is this?"
In a state of alarm,
which was the worst,
it was really beautiful,
besides, I went to cook,
all the time during Covid,
so she was very happy with me,
because she enjoyed the food,
and I was cooking so much love,
I mean, it was great.
I was very happy that it came out well,
and I loved the story.
Of course, you put Covid
in private companies,
a lot of couples there.
No, I put it in private companies.
There are people who have said,
"What am I doing with my life?"
Yes, yes, yes.
And a lot of couples are there too.
A lot of couples who say,
"I can't handle this person,
I can't handle this 24 hours with her."
Look, the only beautiful things about Covid
that suddenly didn't happen to us,
but for real, you know,
and sometimes it has to happen in this life.
Exactly.
Where are we going?
Exactly.
The truth is that yes.
Thanks to that quarantine,
I was at this school.
Look, because I used to work
in international companies,
which were like bullshits,
but whatever there is, lawyers,
I have already arrived here,
I have to continue.
I started to rethink everything,
and well, I'm going to open my own project,
as much as I want to.
Besides, it's all crazy,
I thought this wouldn't last anything,
and we've been together for two years.
It's all crazy.
It's like,
I don't know how to explain it,
but it's like,
"Wow, you're doing something I like,
it's working."
I'm going to do it in my own way,
and let's see how it is.
Well, speaking of the collective,
I started with a lot of fear,
because my first publication was like
made of less in all schools in China,
and even in China,
I don't even tell you
that it's normalised.
I mean, talking about the collective,
with a text of class,
it looks like two girls who are couples,
two boys who are couples,
or anything else.
And I started with a lot of fear,
because I was going full-on,
I was going to say,
"Let's normalise it,
because all the emperors
were openly homosexual."
And all that.
There are a lot of stories
that tell very interesting stories,
and they were a bit hidden.
So,
putting it on the table,
and also on a social network
that you can find,
like many haters,
I said,
"Let's see how it is,
but I'm going to do something
that I like and point out."
And the luck I had
was that it worked very well,
and I was super welcomed at school.
In other words,
there has been a lot of communication,
like in the magazine,
but there are others,
because it is a reference,
to tell and to dare to tell,
to tell what is not told.
In certain areas.
It happened to me something similar,
that the Chinese are heavier,
because there is more focus,
normally,
on the cultural aspect,
I suppose.
But it also happened to me a bit,
that's what I was going to do.
So,
at the end of the day,
my experiences,
my insecurities,
my things that we give each day,
or that we hide,
because we are afraid to be inferior,
and so on,
and put them on a table,
and in a medium that there are so many people,
who see it,
just like,
being lesbian,
and talking to them,
with a spectacular nature,
and in a television program,
which is quite traditional,
because it is family,
I think that's why I had so many repercussions,
because I did it in a very natural way.
Exactly.
I just say what I am,
what I have felt,
what I have lived,
and how I feel now.
And I think that's fundamental, man,
especially for people to feel,
"Hey, look,
you are a referent,
because I was a little girl,
I remember that I didn't have a referent."
Me neither.
Just Alex,
the director of the podcast,
asked me,
"What is your referent,
your view of little girls?"
and I said,
"No one,
and you didn't feel it?"
and I said,
"Well, no,
to be honest,
I was very lucky
that everyone in the world
has a very open family,
my friend is the same,
but yes,
to be honest,
I didn't have a referent,
sometimes I was lost,
because you say,
"I don't know,
I mean,
is it normal or not?
Yes,
I would be doing it right,
no,
it's normal,
no,
I have always asked
a thousand times,
it's normal,
it will happen to me,
because I don't see it,
I don't see it,
all of a sudden,
it still is.
Exactly.
I like it,
I leave it well.
So,
thank you,
figures like you,
the truth,
the girls who see you,
will feel it,
another one like that,
you're not saying,
"I'm good at it,
I'm good at it,
I'm good at it,
and apart from that,
whatever it is,
I eat moon,
I normalize it
so much, so much,
that a eight-year-old girl,
with her mother next to me,
she told me the other day,
"Oh,
I like my friend,
and I have to be good,
I mean, very good,
I like her,
and I also like her,
and I'm very good,
I mean,
good, everything is good.
And now,
we would like to propose a game,
which is that,
I'm going to tell you,
literally,
in the name of three Chinese dishes,
and you have to say,
which of them would you try?
What do you think it is,
and why would you choose that?
So,
it occurred to me to tell you,
the first one is,
it has a weird name,
which is,
"pollock".
or "pollock saliva".
It can be translated as
the two things.
The next one,
you're going to,
I was thinking,
what it could be,
Buddha jumping on a wall,
and the last one,
which will sound like a lot of people,
ants climbing the tree,
of the three,
which one would you choose,
and which one,
what ingredient do you think it could be,
or why?
Well,
first of all,
I've already dispelled it from the beginning.
"Pollock saliva"
I've seen it before,
I've seen it many times.
I've seen it eight times,
I mean,
what do you want to eat,
but nothing?
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Introduction to a project focusing on China-related content, including recommendations for books, movies, and activities.
Establishment of the China Pai School to teach Chinese language and culture in an innovative way.
Discussion on the perceived difficulty of learning Chinese, its benefits, and the importance of cultural understanding in professional settings.
Interview with a Spanish chef discussing love and cooking, traditional Chinese dishes, and experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Emphasis on LGBTQ+ inclusivity and normalization in Chinese culture, personal experiences, and the impact of representation.
Summary:
The transcription covers various topics related to China, starting with recommendations for cultural engagement and the establishment of the China Pai School to teach Chinese in an unconventional manner. It delves into the challenges and advantages of learning Chinese, especially in professional contexts. An interview with a Spanish chef explores the connection between love and cooking, traditional Chinese recipes, and experiences during the pandemic.
Furthermore, the conversation highlights the importance of LGBTQ+ inclusivity and normalization within Chinese culture, underscoring personal stories and the impact of representation.
FAQs
Chinese is not easy or difficult, but requires effort and consistency. Its tonal nature and lack of alphabet make pronunciation challenging, needing perseverance and practice.
Studying Chinese directly connects you to its culture and offers professional opportunities in sectors dealing with China, where understanding the language and culture is highly valued.
The China Pai School was created to teach Chinese differently, integrating art, theater, and movies into the curriculum. Materials are created from scratch to provide a more engaging learning experience.
Sichuan Kitchen in Madrid offers authentic Sichuan cuisine known for its spicy and flavorful dishes. Popular dishes include Langostinos with Pao, Mapo Tofu, and Fried Rice of Sichuan.
'Pollock Saliva' is a popular dish, 'Buddha Jumping on a Wall' is a unique dish, and 'Ants Climbing the Tree' is a classic noodle dish. Each dish has its own distinct ingredients and flavors.
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