Maria Georgas: I Made Out with My Boyfriend’s Mistress (FBF)

- What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper. - We call her Daddy, Daddy, Daddy. - Maria, Georgia, welcome to Caller Daddy. - I am so excited to be here. I love you so much, I love you. - I love you, I'm so excited, I can't believe we're finally doing this, first of all, this has been a long time coming, which we will tell the Daddy Gang all about. But the entire world fell in love with you when you were a child. The entire world fell in love with you when you went on the season of the Bachelor and ever since it ended, I feel like everyone has quite literally just been waiting patiently for you to speak, and you are finally here. - Yes, so I definitely needed the time to just be on my own. But if I was going to speak, I was going to speak here with you today on Caller Daddy. And it was a long time coming, but I'm here now, and I'm ready. - Okay, I have so many questions, so let's just get into it. - Okay, before you continue, this is really tight, and I want to slip into something a little bit more comfortable. - Okay, here I go. - Oh my god. - See you later. (upbeat music) - Okay, okay. She's got a little unwell outfit on. - Oh, I'm feeling so myself right now, you have no idea. - Wait, really? - Oh my god, this is me, to my core. - Okay, but every single outfit you slayed the season. For anyone that didn't watch the season Maria on the Bachelor, I don't know if I've ever seen someone come with such good outfits, and I feel like I saw that all online. How did you even pack for this fucking season? - Oh my god, it was so last minute you guys have no idea. I always wanted to be on the show. I had dreams about it. I was like, I'm gonna be on the show one day. So I remember I would always buy things in hopes. - Stop. - I swear to god, I'm not even kidding. And so when I actually got, I was fully in the running, they're like, okay, you're in it. But I was never getting a solid yes. I was like, waiting, waiting, waiting. Three days prior, they're like, pack your bags, you're coming. You need this, this isn't this. I'm like, holy shit, I had three days to pack. How did you always want to be on the Bachelor? - I love the show. - Okay. - I love the show. I was such a huge fan and I had friends on the show and they-- - You did? - Yeah. (laughing) When I feel like that's D. - Well, I mean, I don't know how much I want to say. I feel like there's been, you know, people have talked about it and I'm sure people know who. But yeah, I've had people that have been on the show that I've always said that I see you on it. And yeah, and so I was like, I'm gonna apply. - So you've romant, are you integrating, you've like romantically dabbled with people on the show? - I wouldn't say romantic, but obviously there was like, I don't know what you want to call it, whatever you want to call it. It was just like a good thing going and yeah, and I just remember talking to him about it and he was like, I can totally see you. You know what he said to me, actually? - Should I be asking you like, who you're talking about? - No, you shouldn't. (laughing) - Do you want me to say it? - I think I have to ask. - Well, I mean, I think it's been fairly obvious and I honestly, I'm so over the rumors and stuff like that. So Nick, obvious, oh fuck, but this is bad 'cause he's like totally married. - No, I think that so it's not you're saying you're like in love with this person. - Yeah. - Nothing has ever happened between Nick and I, but like it's always been like a friendship. - Okay. - But this, no, I think this is fine to say. Nick is one of the biggest people from the franchise and the fact that like you had like a little thing with him back in the day, but you never hooked up. - No. - You just had like a flirtatious banter. - Literally, that is all. Like he helped me through breakups. Like he was a good friend to me at points and it was great, but I remember and I never really understood it until actually being on the show. He had said to me, he's like, I can see you being the villain. He's like, you're gonna go on, you're gonna be the villain. And I was like, why? Why me? Like I would never go with the intention of becoming a villain. I didn't go in there and try to piss people off. But I remember him saying he's like, people are gonna come after you. No matter what, I can just see it. You're gonna be the villain. And it was just funny because after I finished filming, there was rumors about me being a villain. I'm like, but I wasn't. I know what happened. - Well, I feel like just to sum it up again for anyone that didn't watch. Like I feel like people tried really, really, really, really, really fucking hard to make you the villain. And then everyone in America watching it was like, no. Like no, she's not the villain actually. Like these girls that are basically gaslighting Maria are the villain. Okay, let's go back to the beginning. I like how you were just like dropping bombs. - Yeah, okay. - But I think it's fine to say the Nick Vial thing. I think he's like happily married now. - Yeah, he is. - And that's great. - Yeah, and I think I have. - And I just want everyone to know that like, there's no animosity between us. Like I think we have always been friends. Obviously, whatever. But yeah, he's always been great to me. And like I respect his relationship. I respect where he is now. I'm happy to see him grow. But yeah, just say that we didn't have a pass. That would be a lie. So like, I just hate this like, it's been all over Reddit. I just want people to know that like, it's nothing serious. But also, we respected each other along the way. And I'm happy where he's at now. I congratulate him. - Well, I was gonna say, I also think the internet is too smart nowadays, where it's like, if you were connected to anyone in Bachelor Nation. - Oh, you say? Exactly. - So I think it'd be like, you'd be like remiss to not bring it up because then everyone would be like, you're a liar. - Right. And I have nothing to hide. Like I go through life where I feel like I have, you want to ask me questions? I want to answer. - I know. - No, really? Can you tell? - I can. - Yeah. So I'm like, you know what? Like at the end of the day, I'm like, I rather speak on it than people build or create stories out of nothing. - Yeah. - There's nothing to talk about there. - Amazing. - Literally. - So let's talk about your season. - Okay. - You're one of the most popular, I would say Bachelor contestants in the history of ever. And you just like brought this energy to it, this relatability. You were normal. I think people could be like, see themselves being friends with you, your girls girl. Like it was great vibes. How did you feel about all this attention? - Oh my God. First of all, thank you for saying that. Like that meant a lot because I was actually talking this, talking about this with my friends. Like when I had first come back home, I had to sit my family down to let them know like what kind of shit, stupidity I went through in the house. I did not know how it was going to like play out. And like how people were going to perceive me because in the house I felt like I was so wrongfully accused of things and people are just like taking me the wrong way. And so I didn't know how things were going to play out. The fact that it was an honest edit, I can say, and like showed exactly who I am. And I said to myself, I'm like, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this like exactly who I am. I'm not going on there with some alter ego. Like no, no, no, no. I'm going to, when my friends and family are going to watch, they're going to be like, that's my Maria. - Prior to this show. - Yeah. - Were you someone who was used to a lot of drama in your life? - And I talked about this on the show to Joey. I was like the last thing I thought I was going to have problems with were the girls. I thought I was going to be like them. I thought the only problem I would have is if I like him or not. Or if we can really see each other like becoming something. - Right. And so when that was my biggest concern in the house, I was like, oh my god, maybe that guy was right. Maybe it's like, in wait. Okay, you want to hear something? Actually, I have something to say. - Yes. - This is actually kind of fucked up. - Okay. - Sydney, you know Sydney? - No. - So in the house. - Oh, the one that was the minute she was. - Yes, yeah. - Okay. - So funny enough. Actually side, no, I don't know if you want to keep this in. But this is actually kind of like concern me at one point. So when it first started like airing, I remember someone sent me a photo of Nick and Sydney together. They were all friends because Sydney's friends with Ashley, I and Nick's close with Ashley and Ashley's close with Sydney. And they were all in a photo together. I'm like, was this a plan? No, I'm not kidding besides all this right now. I'm like straight shooter to you right now. Part of me was like, was this all planned? Because I was like, I knew I was innocent. Like, I knew I was innocent. And I was like, what's wrong with that? I was like, what's wrong with that? I was like, how bent on crucifying you, can you give a brief synopsis of what they were trying to basically kill you for? Yeah. So there's a point in time where we see Medina. She was one of the older girls. I don't even like to say older. Here we go, the age thing, but she had mentioned that she felt insecure about her age. age and that she was losing time and she thought, you know, it was, Joe, maybe we might have not been giving her enough attention because of her age. Um, and I say it's silent during that conversation. She kind of like addressed the room about it. And then why don't I say in lane? I don't know. Um, so then we were outside and kind of, we had breaks, you know, throughout the day, but we're always being recorded and I knew that. So despite having a break, I know like we're being recorded. But again, I was in the moment with my friend and we were kind of like, um, going through what was like said or during that moment, we were kind of just like, what's the word? Re, which is like recapping what would be happening. Thank you very much that moment. And all I said to her was like, I don't get why Medina would say that because like I'm in her age group and I'm just saying like she's, she's a beautiful woman. Like literally so beautiful where I was like, I couldn't even fathom the idea that she was thinking that it had something to do with her age. Why Joe, he's not giving her attention. I'm like, you're so beautiful. Own it. Like you have so much going for you. You have the ages, the last thing you should worry about. But I wasn't saying that to Medina. I was saying that to my friend as we were recapping the night. Yeah. Um, and that's why I was like, I want to preface by saying like if Medina had come to me and said to me, Maria, I feel insecure by age. I know you're like one of the older girls in the house too. Like this is how I feel. I would never say, Oh, Nate, you're like, I would be like, no, let's talk about it. This is how you feel. I'm here for you. You know? So obviously I was saying to my friend behind closed doors and I was being overheard by Sydney. And instead of a coming up to me to be like, Hey, are you talking about Medina? Because she's my girl. Instead of like either coming up to me or talking to me one on one to be like, Hey, I might have heard this, but I don't know if she started this entire thing on something she might have heard. So that's where it all kind of started though. And I think like what we can acknowledge for women is like age is such a sensitive thing, just because everyone makes us feel like when you hit 30, it's like, Oh, the clock is ticking. And so I empathize with what she was saying. And then I also agree with what you were saying of like, Oh my god, girl, like don't even fucking worry. You're hot. You're beautiful. You're young. Like 30 is young. Yeah. 31 is young. Yeah. 40 is young. Yeah. Like we have to like retrain our brains to look at like women and age in a complete different way. But I think on the show, it brought up a really interesting conversation that you were almost villainized for like, shitting on this woman for age. And that was not what you were saying. Absolutely. And like everything you said was absolutely right. And for me, I'm like, I can get insecure about my age to 100% and I have felt insecure about it. But going into the bachelor knowing that there's that you know, sometimes they cast 23 year olds and stuff like that, I knew going into it where I was like, I probably am going to be the oldest one in the house. So I was trying to think positively so that like, I didn't get into that mindset. So I thought in ways, like I was trying, in ways when I was talking to my friend about it, I was trying to encourage myself to because like, yeah, hearing her talk about that, you don't think that struck a chord with me. I was like, fuck, maybe like, like, has I am a year older than him? Maybe that is weird. I don't know. I started like thinking I was like, no, no, look, we're going to twist it. No, we're hot. We're confident. Let's do this. Got it. And I was just having a talk with my girlfriend. I didn't think it was going to become a thing. I wasn't trying to do this in front of a room. I would have been way more sensitive, way more like, you know, yeah, you're almost like debriefing something that clearly related to, because how old is she? She's 31. Okay. She's 31 and how old you? 29. Okay. I'm 29. Yeah. Same age. Yeah. So I get what you're saying is like, you guys are the oldest in the house and you immediately saw her freaking out and getting insecure that you were like, oh my God. Like, should I be insecure? No. We're fucking beautiful. Let's go. Let's just turn this into a positive right now because it's so, you know, in the house, you're so isolated and I can see why she was feeling those things. But I kind of wanted to like, because imagine if I just sat there and was like, yeah, we are. We should just like piece out right now as old fucks. Like, let's just get the fuck out of here. But I was trying to just like, and again, if she had come to me personally, the conversation would have been different. Yeah. It was just in the moment with my friend. I was just like, yeah. And so this kind of begins this feud between you and this girl, Sydney, where she like, has it out for you. Yeah. She's literally saying you're like the devil. Oh, yeah. It's funny. I brought devil ears because I knew we were going to be filming during Halloween. And I wore the devil ears like her weak straight. They cut that out. So maybe you don't talk with that. But like, I loved it. I was like, because they told me they're like, yeah, you know, she sees you as a devil. I'm like, and in parts I was like, wait, but what like, I was questioning myself. Why do you think this girl had it out for you? Like you said, you barely got into drama your whole life with women. Like your biggest concern was like, am I going to even like Joey? Like why even get along with him? What do you think if you had to pinpoint it, brought it on this season? Yeah. So I on it, because now getting to know her outside of this, she's an amazing woman. And I honestly can say that in that moment, she really truly thought she was going to bat for her friend. And like, again, it's so weird to say like these girls become our best friends. But when you're in that environment, you become very close to people. And that's how it feels, right? So I truly think that she was feeling she was going to bat for her friend. She was that rider-dive friend. She wasn't going to like, let anything slide with the best intentions, just wrongly guided. I don't really know why, because I, guys, when I tell you, you know, she had apologized to me there. And then when we, I was like, listen, you overheard something, you took it out of context. It wasn't meant maliciously. Next time, you know, come to me. She's like, absolutely, cheers. The next day, we had that group date where we were doing the talent show. And she hugged me before the group date. And she was like, Maria, I just want to say again, I'm sorry for taking something out of context. It wasn't shown. We never even got to talk about this. And so I thought I was like, wow, okay, you know what? And I said to her that day, I go, listen, I'm good to hug you, hug it out. And like, we're good. But just, you scare me a little bit because we were so good up until the point where you're starting shit with me where I'm like, where is this coming from? So we hugged it out. We were good. Later on that night is when she was like, I feel bullied by you. You hugged me earlier that day. It was like, guys, when I say it was crazy, it was crazy. But again, because I know she is a good person deep down, I think that again, in this environment, it just brought out the worst because I was going to say like, I, I didn't know you guys were close now, which is close, but we're good. You're good. Yeah. Okay. Because I was going to say, I thought I didn't know if you guys were like friends. And I'm like, that's kind of crazy to go from someone being like, you're bullying me. Like the what we watched on TV, I was like, this girl is like losing her mind on national TV. And it's like, everywhere you would go, she would turn to you and just start like going after you. And it felt very targeted. Yeah, it got to points where she would acknowledge that like, I can't even be in a room with Maria because I feel she's going to attack me. And there's been so many scenes of us in a room. And I'm like, leave me alone. What? So like, I didn't understand. Yeah. And to this day, like, you know, her and I didn't get to really talk about what exactly it was that made her say those things about me because I could like even thinking about putting myself in her head. I could never say that about someone if I knew that it was so untrue. Well, I think what was interesting too. And I liked reading the internet during your season because I thought that women had really interesting takes about you. Like, I remember watching in so many women were like, I feel like half of these girls in the house are having their first buy experience because everyone is falling in love with Maria. And everyone's like, do I like her more than Joey? I think there was also a lot of jealousy. Like you exude confidence. You like walked in every room. You looked so fucking hot. You looked insane in your outfits. You have a great personality. And you just lead with confidence. And I think in those environments, I can imagine if women are seeing one woman lead with just like no doubt or fears, you're going to be like, fuck you. I wish I was like that. And I personally felt like a lot of it was driven by jealousy, which sucks. But I think it's sadly relatable. If you could go back, is there anything you would have handled differently in all of the drama? Well, I just want to say something first. So before going into the house, I had read something and it was like some book and it was called, you're just not that you're there's like, you're not that great or something like that. And then just like no, no, but wait. What a great book. No, no, but you know what? The the the the the meaning behind it meant something to me. And it was just like acknowledging the fact that you're not that great. And like, I never know. Wait, just wait. I don't ever think of myself as like, like when you say like, like it's weird to me, even believing when someone's like, oh, someone's jealous of you. Like I don't look at things like that. Like I went into this bachelor world being like, I'm not going to be the prettiest girl in the room. I'm not going to be the best dress. I'm not going to be the most like exciting to look at or be with. Like I just said, I'm going to be myself. And if it works, it works. Like I was so self-aware going into it. So it's funny that like people see it as like confidence. And people see it as like, oh, girls are jealous of you. It's like I genuinely went in there being like, I'm going to be supportive of everyone around. But I'm not also not going to think I'm that great. Like I love this. Now I love this message. Okay, so where are we going? No, it's all right. I fucking suck. I'm the piece of shit. I'm not like just acknowledging that like, you know, like just knowing who you are. Like I'm not, I'm not overly confident in that way where I'm like, I'm the shit. I've never thought that way about myself. I thought all the women were especially night one going into that house. I was like, there's so many beautiful women around me that I was like, I'm just going to be myself have fun. And then if it works, it works. And it did. And like, so when girls came after me and being like, oh, she like people are seeing it as like, oh, you were so. So confident, that's why I'm like, oh my God. I was like, I never once, I think I was the prettiest in the room. Never once, and I think I was the best dress. That's why after it aired and hearing that like everyone loved my outfits and like everyone thought I was like, damn. I love everything you just said. And I truly believe though that's where it is confident what you're talking about. And it's, I think it's enviable. And I think if anyone takes anything from this episode, it's that. Like you deciding, I can't be what I'm not. I'm going to be myself. Exactly. I'm me, I look how I look, I act how I act, and like I'm going to present as I am. And if he likes it and they like it great, if not, who gives a fuck. First, I do want to talk a little bit about your personal life because I think you, you came into this bachelor world and everyone was like, who is this firecracker? Like who is this girl? And where did she came from? Who is Maria? Yeah. Have you ever been in love before? I have obviously, okay, okay. I had a couple of boyfriends. I'm going to say two. Two boyfriends? 'Cause I'm going to tell you exactly the number. Yeah, I don't have that much experience. I always, like when I'm with someone, I feel loving feelings. But like to, like when you're out of it, you kind of think back and you're like, wait, was I even in love? I don't know. I don't think so. Because I want to believe when I am, I know it's going to be my person kind of thing. I had loving feelings for everyone that I've ever been with. Yeah. Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. I think that, no, I think that answers it. I think you would know if you had been in love. Right, you would think. You would know. Okay, trust me. That's what I'm thinking. You would know. Okay, what has been your longest relationship? Oh, bitch. You're going to call me right out. Literally my first boyfriend was like eight months. But I'd live with him for three, so it felt like a fucking century. But what? Okay, maybe no. I don't know. Okay, listen, I have never had anything long term. I'm a problem. No, I'm a problem. When you live with him for three months towards the end of the eight months, and then is that what ended it? The beginning. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. Hold on. It's just a long, it was like seven years ago, bitch. You dated a guy for eight months. You lived with him for three. But how did you start living together than stay together, but not live together? Walk me through this. Okay, hold on. Okay. Let me think. It was so long ago, guys, it was like seven years ago. We dated and hit it off right away. Okay. And he was living alone. I was living with my family. And he was like, I want to be with you all the time. So come sleep at my house. And then it turned into me, ended up moving, like, ending up moving in with him. Does that make sense? And then how did you move out? He cheated on me. Wait, wait, wait, bitch, what do you think? I mean, she know me. Wait, but then this makes sense. Okay. Eight months dating. First three months you're living together. Yeah. He then cheats. You stay? No. No, no. No. Cheating happens towards the end, honey. Okay, okay. So then why did you move out? It was just because you cheated on me. Okay, okay. You got your timeline mixed up. You said you lived together in the first three months. Uh-huh. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. It's not Matt. Let me, let me backtrack eight months together. Eight months together. Living with him. Okay, so not, I didn't live with him right away. You're right. Okay. You caught me. I know my life didn't even know me. Okay. So he cheats. How did you find out? He cheated. Oh, bitch. No. Tell me every day. Oh my god. I'm a Virgo. You know what Virgos are like? No, tell me more. I'm an FBI agent. Oh, like without being an FBI agent. Okay. So basically, so because I was living with him, right, um, at the time, anyways, so, um, he was in New York with his family. I'll never forget this. This is actually kind of fucked up. Okay. But it's okay. You know what? Him and I. We laugh about this because he found, he was like, I hope you know, I know, I knew what you did the entire time. We talked about it. Listen. It's better to just laugh it off now, but it wasn't a laughing moment at the time, but we can laugh about it now. Anyway, so he was in New York with his dad and then, um, he was like, yeah, so I was staying at his place. Stupid. Anyways, so I'm with, I have all my friends over and I remember I was in LA and then Vegas for a wedding. I did like a week trip and he was so, oh my god, Nick plays into this because he hated Nick and Nick hated him. Fuck that guy. Oh, no, because he cheated on me. But it's fine. Um, so. Okay. Let me get back on track. Hold on. Okay. So I, um, so I had gone on that trip and he was already questioning me being on that trip, being like, you're going there to see him. Blah, blah, blah. I'm like, bitch. I'm going to a fucking wedding. What is your issue? And we're spending a couple more nights in LA after, after Vegas. I lied. We went to Vegas first and then we did the wedding in LA. Okay. There it is. Come on. Seven years. I haven't talked about this shit. It's great. Um, and so he was already upset with the whole trip. I get back. We're good. He goes to New York. I stayed at his place and I invite my friends over. I had this weird feeling because the last couple nights in LA, he was kind of like quiet. Like wasn't really speaking to me. I'm like, bitch. You're my boyfriend. Where the fuck? Anyways. No, not like that. I'm very sweet. But I get what you're saying. When a boyfriend is quiet. You know what that like, you're checking in on me and then all of a sudden you're quiet for the next couple days. What's going on? What the hell's going on? So I remember me like, okay. So I, I, I know, I kept that in my notes. I was like, okay. So this time this time he was kind of weird. Sketch. So I get to his place. I'm saying he leaves. I go to the front desk. And this is kind of smart. Girls pay attention. So I go to the front desk. I'm like, oh my god. I left for my trip. But I, as I was waiting for my Uber or whatever I was waiting, I don't know what I said. I'm like, I left my purse on the couch. So right outside of his place, there's a, like a communal area and there was a couch. And I was like, I left my purse there and I can't find my purse. I'm like, I need you to, like, I was sitting here between this time and this time. And I told him the times where I felt like he was being off. So he, so the poor front desk man. And by the way, man, I'd never outed you even when you knew I knew what he knew what I was doing. And I'm, I'll explain. But I never outed him. Never to my ex. But now I'm outing you. But it's okay. You're probably not even working there anymore. So, so I, I told him I'm like, from this time this time, I remember I was sitting there, but I don't know where this purse went and it's like expensive purse. I need to know where it is. So he's, he turns the, the fucking screen to me and he's going through the times and I, and I told him he's so, he's a little, it's fine. I told him between, I think I said, from 11 p.m. till 3 a.m. I'm like, I don't know if you have the check to see if my purse was there and if someone took it. So he's showing me, okay? And I had my girlfriend there. I'll never forget. She fucking screwed it up. I was like, game phase. I was like, show me the fucking cameras. So I was looking for my purse. All of a sudden. Guys, I'll, I kid you not. 3, 20, I remember the time. Three, it was like something 3 a.m. 3, 20. Don't want to say that I remember the time. It's kind of weird. But it's fine. Um, a fucking bitch shows up to his door. No. 3 something a.m. And then I'm going like this. This is, this is me. I'm like this. I keep my mouth shut. My friend goes, and then he's, so now the friend desk guys sees that there's another girl like me showing up at this time. And then as soon as she fucking gasped like outing me, he turns the camera and he's like, I, I can't be doing this. I, I'm sorry. I, I was like, I was like, no, no, no, don't worry. And he in that moment knew that, that he knew that what I was trying to do. And he knew that now he outed my boyfriend for having a girl show up at his place at 3 a.m. While it was gone. But in that moment, I went, no, no fucking way. And so it gets first. So I kept my mouth shut. You didn't say anything? No, of course I had no. Poor front desk man. No, I, I never outed him to, until the day I'm so sorry, sir. But um, to his day, never outed him, never outed him. I go back in. I, you know, actually, it's kind of fun. I went for a walk. I played some music. I pretended I was like in a music video like sad, cried. I don't know. I don't know what I did. I did something like weird shit. But then I went back. And then, so days later, he comes back. We're good. He throws a party, okay? Okay. Guys, listen to this. It gets fucked. So he throws a party. Oh my god. Poor guy. He's probably like going to watch us and be like, listen, at the end of the day, don't cheat on your girlfriend. Because one day she's going to live to tell a tale. She's going to live to tell the fucking tale. So don't cheat on your girlfriend. Um, anyways, so he throws a party, family friends. And remember, I saw that bitch. I saw her. You're going to wait for the twist at the end. So I saw her. So I knew how she liked. He throws a party fan's family and friends at his restaurant. He's selling a restaurant. Oops. Cut that out. Because that'll be very obvious. Okay. Let's be real. I only had one fucking ex and everyone knows. Okay. It's fine. But cut it out, baby. I don't know. I'll keep it in. Do it everyone. Um, so, so he throws a party, family and friends. There's a separate table of like randoms that I don't know. Who shows up? She does. But I keep my mouth shut. I see him go over to her hugger kisser, psycho perfect. That's my end. So he comes back. I'm like, who's that girl that you kiss on the cheek? Like, like, who's that? So go, she's just a friend. Like, did it? I was just saying hi. I'm like, okay. That was a little like a little much to say hi to a friend, right? So I'm watching her, watching her. So later on that night, I was like, fuck it. I'm done. I'm done. I'm so out. Like, the fact that he's now bringing this girl around to me. That's the most fucked up part. Casually. And how long had you waited to, like, how long is this between you? A week. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. It wasn't long. I just didn't know how I was going to like, like, do it. But I was out at that point. No, but that's like, that's mentally fucked to put your fucking mistress in the same room with your girl. Come on. I actually have more tea. Oh, my God. It just keeps flowing. Oh, shit. So basically, because when he was showing me the cameras, I saw a bunch of guys go in first, all his friends. And then she showed up, like, hours later, like 3M, but they were, like, I didn't see the friends. I was like, okay, maybe this might not be what I think it is. And like, he's already thinking I'm seeing. And so there was so many things where I was like, okay, I can't overthink, because if you're looking at it, just based on like what you like how it looks, I wanna know proof. But anyways, - Right. - But cut that out. No, make him look bad, it's fine. - No, no, but I get, but, okay. - I was in my head, I was kind of like, fuck, maybe, maybe, no. - No, you're rationalizing, which I get. - I was rationalizing. - You were telling him I'm not cheating on you with Nick. I'm not seeing Nick. I'm literally going to a wedding. But he's like, I know you have a past with him, blah, blah, blah. Then he starts acting sketchy. And in your mind, you're like, is he making this decision because he thinks I was being shady with Nick when I wasn't. And then all of a sudden you see her at three, and then your brain rationalizes even though you goddamn know well what he was doing. - Yeah, I grew up showing up at three and by herself. - She's there for the after party. - Yeah, right. - Oh, you know, at the after party. - Right, yeah. - Okay, so. - His peepie. - His peepie in a fucking pranani. Yeah, 100%. Anyways, so I saw her there, and again, I didn't say anything, whatever. And then we got back to the house, and I'm like, who's that girl? And he, he would just be like, she was a French. It's a friend. I'm like, so then why? And I laid all out there. I was like, why did she show up at your house at this time, this day, in a red dress. I was like saying it all on heat to this day, to this day. Well, say nothing ever happened. We're wanting her some funny shit. - Please. - 'Cause I was a Virgo, right? We're very thorough. So I need to get to the nitty gritty. I need to know. I was never gonna get my answer from him, you know? So I, okay. So I dance, okay, I take heel classes, and I do all that. So I met a girlfriend there, and she was going out one night, and she texted me, she said, come meet me. I go, who you at with? She sends me a photo. She's with that girl. - No. - So I go, perfect. Oh, just wait. So I'm like, prevailing me this girl. But again, I wasn't gonna go meet her with the intentions to be confrontational. No, I was just going to see who this girl is. I wanna meet you. I wanna look at you dead in the eyes. You know me, I don't know you. You don't know that I know you, but I know you. Anyways, we hit it off. Love her. Love her sweetest fucking girl ever. So nice. - That makes it all so much worse, you're like, fuck. - Yeah, she was great. - And did she know you were dating him? - Well, I mean, you have an Instagram. It was very fairly obvious. Like, there was no excuse on her end. But at the end of the day, I'll never blame the girl. - Ever. - He owed something to me. - And you never know what they say in the moment. Like, oh, we're on a break. - Yeah. - Oh, she was like, you know what I mean? - Oh, to this day, I am not upset with her. Oh, actually, I'm great friends of there. - Oh, but you know what I mean? Like, I always think about like the women are like, oh my god, my husband, she did it and fuck this woman. And I'm like, I swear to god, when a man takes off his pants and he's hard and he's staring at a woman. And the woman's like, wait, don't you have a wife or don't you have a girlfriend? They're like, she just got run over by a bus. She's dead. We buried her last week. - Yeah, she beats me. - She beats me. It's the whole thing. They will say whatever they, when they look down and they look up, they're like, whatever I can do to get inside. - Yep, absolutely. - So we can't blame the women. - Yep, yep. So we're dancing. - So we're friends, we become friends at night. And then to the point, we're like, we're like hanging out and we're us three hanging out. To the point where I even, okay, this is actually psychotic. - Yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead. It's color daddy. Nothing is exactly crazy. - Okay, so I, one day we were all out and I was a little drunk and I'm like, I need to see if this girl's a good kisser. Only because I was like, I wanna see this. - I'm obsessed with you. - I was like, no, I wanna know what the fuck she has that I don't, like this all happened. So I made out with her one night. But to this day, like we were totally, it was all a joke, so whatever, it was all a little up. It's fine. I love women, I love men, I love men more. But it's fine, it's fine. I just did it for my own sanity. Again, Virgos, we're fucked. Like you wanted to understand what you were missing. - Right, I wanted to know what he was dealing with. If I had anything like, I don't know. I don't know what the hell. I just did it because I need to do it. She knows all this now. - Okay, okay. - So then, so then, so we became friends like really good friends. Like we're all good, whatever. And one night she calls me. Okay, guys, listen to this. And mind you, I had broken up with him. I said what I said to him, he denied it. He's no now that I'm like having a friendship with this girl. - Okay. - She calls me, she's like, Maria, I need to see you. I'm like, yeah, come over. She comes over, she starts to cry. She's like, I have to be honest about something. She's like, Maria, I love you. Like you're such a good person. Like I feel like I need to be honest about something. I go, let me stop you right there. I knew this entire time. It was like a whole, like this could be a movie. - And this could be a whole episode. - Oh my god, I know, right? Anyways, long story short, I just basically set to her, I'm like, listen, like I met you with intention to see who you were as a person. I loved you that night. You were so fun, so sweet. Like at the end of the day, I didn't hold anything against you because my ex, he was supposed to respect me and like not do that shit to me. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Joey. - Oh, back to Joey? - Back to Joey. - Yeah, Joey the bachelor. - Yeah. - So you had never brought a guy home in your life. Is this real? - That became, okay, here's the thing. - Okay. - I think we're, it's like the semantics of it. It's like, yes, I have men met my dad and like my parents, yes. - Okay. - My ex met my parents. But have I ever brought them into my home? Where my, like my family met like, no, yeah. But like, have they met my parents and the people that matter? Yeah, sure, did I introduce them to my brothers? No, like the entire family, no, but my parents, yes. And like my friends, absolutely always. But like the idea of just like, it was just, just yeah, I didn't bring them home, but it doesn't mean that they weren't like, acquainted with my parents and like people that matter to me. It's just like, it was the idea of just like, it's the first guy that I'm gonna introduce to everyone all at once. - Got it. In a sense? - Yes, completely. - Okay. - Do you think you and Joey would have actually made it in the real world? - It would have been great as friends. Like, we were so funny together where we liked the same movies, like, had the same banter. But, and we obviously liked to like, we liked each other, but I don't know, you know what? I don't know. I think him and Kelsey makes such a good match because he was always one to always kind of need reassurance. Does that mean to say? It's not mean to say, because that's what he was very vocal about on the season. And I think that like, Kelsey's the kind of woman that gives it to him, but like also is very confident and gets it to from him. Like, I don't think work so perfectly together. I don't know how to explain it, but I've never seen two of us so into each other. It just worked. I don't know if I could have given him what exactly what he wanted all the time. And so, I don't know, but I think that we were great friends. - Yeah. - What's something that a guy could do that would immediately give you the egg? - Ooh, dance, oh shit. I don't, you know, here's the thing. I don't mind, you know, you know, have you ever seen those guys who like, start breaking out into dance? What they're so bad, but they think they're so good? - When are they breaking out into dance? Like, give me a go at that. - That's the problem they do. - Wait, look where? - Bitch, anywhere there's a fucking tune. I don't know. Here's the thing, here's the thing, like, but here's the thing, this is where the difference lies. - Okay, okay. - When they're dancing but being silly and like just owning that they're bad, but there's some that are so bad, but they think they're good. - Yeah, yeah. - That's where I get the egg. - The full egg. - That's where I'm like, oh my god, mud on. You're not it. - No, that makes sense. - Okay. - What's the craziest thing an X has ever done to you? - Date 32, I'm in at the same time. - I'm so sorry. - Bachelor. - Wait, I thought you, oh my god. I didn't get to that at first. I was like, yeah, this happened more than once in my life. No, just the bachelor. - Fuck, I literally did it. Okay, oh my god, yeah. Can we talk about that? How did you feel with the jealousy? - Okay, so here's the thing. And I'm gonna be very, very honest with you. In that moment. Oh, fuck, should I say it? - Mm-hmm. - Should I say it? - Mm-hmm. - You should always say, wait, I've become steer brain sweetie. - I'm on a roll tonight. - It's only one o'clock in the afternoon. - I'm gonna be honest with something. I know tonight, whatever to do. - Mm-hmm. - So I'm gonna be honest with something. So Jen and I. - Okay. - Jen and I, so Jen kissed him on the group date. - Okay. - I went up to her because I just, like you know when you're very self-aware, like you know you're placing things. And I just knew Joey and I were never gonna be endgame. Yes, could I have made it further? - Sure. - But I'm gonna be 10% like we had that connection. I just didn't think I was gonna be endgame and he was gonna be endgame for me. And so I told Jen that day that I was gonna use that as an excuse to leave Joey. - Use what? That she kissed him? - That's, this is T, this is T, bitch. - We walk me through what you're talking about. - So there's a scene where Jen kisses Joey. And that's where I'm like, Jen kissed Joey. I am disgusted. But I, you know, I was very close to her and I just felt like I needed a way out. And it wasn't, it had nothing to do within. Joey is great. Like Joey is actually such a catch. And that's why I'm so happy. Like I think finding happiness was like knowing that he's happy with someone that loves him so much. And I was, I'm so happy for him. I just knew it was never gonna be me. And so I was like, I need a way out. And so I used Jen kissing him in that moment that pissed me off as an excuse to leave. - Okay. Can I say what I'm getting from that? As I think that now with reality television, there's in a beautiful way. There's so much more that people understand that these environments are so fucking heightened. And there's, you're in this bubble and you are, or feeling feelings that maybe you wouldn't feel on the outside world or maybe you are feeling feelings but they're heightened because of, and so I can imagine that the moment you started to realize, like maybe I'm actually not in game and maybe you were better as friends and maybe there's still doubt in your head if you're right or wrong. Then you see in the next day and you're like, oh, but he's so cute and then there's also, - And when he fights for you to stay, you're kind of like, okay, shit, maybe I'm like misguided. I need to be in this and that's kind of how I felt during hometowns. He fought for me so hard, whether they showed the entirety of that and that's fair, but in that moment, he did fight for me to stay. And so when I came to hometowns, I'm like, okay, I'm dropping my walls. I'm giving this my all, but like, that moment in Jasper when I was trying to leave, it was a little bit of a, I was just trying to give him a way out. - 'Cause I'm in, in be honest, now that you're saying it, it makes more sense because again, to context if people didn't watch that episode, you're sitting on the couch with him, you're basically saying like, I can't do this anymore. I am jealous. I'm seeing you because other women like, I can't handle it. - I knew what I signed up for. - Yes, and I think you could tell though there was something else going on. 'Cause you were being kind of sporadic of like, you're walking back and forth. You were like, I can't do this, Joey. And you could tell like, that wasn't the real reason and you could tell he was so good to you. - Well, 'cause you could tell that. - I could tell, but I'm also speculating and I was like, guys. - But I feel like that's what my job is to do is just like, read people sitting across from me. And I do a really fucking good job. - Thank you. But on TV, I was immediately like, this is not, this is not the whole story. So you knew kind of in that moment, maybe it's time for me to go. And then he fought for you, which maybe you're saying we didn't see the whole extent to which he fought. - Yeah, you didn't, you didn't. - And then we get to hometowns and then that was kind of-- - 'Cause I was like, I don't wanna say, I was like, forcibly, but I mean, you wanna believe someone's actions and like, how hard he fought for me that night, where I was like, okay, you know what? I need to get my head in the game. Like, I do feel good, great things about him. I think he's great and I am in it. But I didn't know where he was at and there was like, there was some sort of disconnect. But when he fought for me so hard, I was like, okay. This is like something that could be real and real. Like, stop fucking this up. And so at hometowns where I fully dropped my walls and then I got sent home. And I was like, okay. - Okay. - This is why I protect myself. - Yeah. So I'm like, and that's what I've kind of learned. Like, I've become accustomed to like being disappointed by men and this has nothing to do with Joey. I don't, when I talk like this, it has nothing to do with Joey 'cause he was just doing his part in the show and like, he had more stronger feelings for other women and that's fine. But I just feel like when I turn to like protecting myself where I'm like, almost self-sabotaging, I feel like it's like self-protection. I got it. 'Cause aside from Joey, have you ever been in a situation where you told someone you loved them and they didn't say it back? - More like they come on strong in the beginning and like they're like all in and I push them away. And then when it gets to the point where they're like, okay, you know what, you keep pushing me away. I'm actually gonna go and then when they actually go, I'm like, wait, I didn't mean that. I was just joking, get your ass over here. And they're like, I don't know if I can, they don't believe me anymore. And I, but then in the end, like I said, something happens where I'm like, there's a reason why I was pushing them away in the beginning because they do something where I'm like, they weren't even, I don't know if I even believe them to begin with, but there's been times where they come on strong. And it's like, we're never, they are at the same time. I'll say that. - I think that's a, naturally, you will get to a point where, I don't believe that it's gonna happen at the same time where I'm not gonna do that in the beginning. - But what you're doing, Maria, is you're testing them to see in your brain, you think pushing them away. I'll see if they stay, if they say, but what you're gonna eventually stop doing because that's not healthy as you'll realize, oh, you're pushing them away. And they're like, okay, I'll leave. Like you can only push so much someone away to the point where they're like, okay, you're, and imagine if you just didn't. - Oh, I had an epiphany recently. I'm not joking, like a whole, like I'm like a whole different person when now, like when I'm gonna open up to someone and like I feel it initially, and that initial attraction to me is so hard to come by. Like I don't just have it for anyone, but when I do, I'm not playing those games. Like I've learned now the hard way. And so for me, I'm so open to just letting myself be happy for the first time where I realize that this is what I want. - Amazing. - Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, it should just happen in the past, but I grow from it every time. - Totally, but I will say, 'cause I wanna make sure, you know, like I'm not judging you. - No, no. - Literally until Matt, like that was my game. I would be like, oh my God, I'm gonna make sure he really fucking likes me by giving him, never giving him anything. - And make sure he's hard for you. - They go so hard, and it definitely doesn't mean to your ego, you're like, oh my God, like he keeps my back. - And I'm like, holy shit, like he keeps coming. - You love coming. - Yeah, but it's not good. - And they turn around, you're like, we get back here. What are you doing? And it's like that you have been literally destroying me for the past couple of months. I've been trying everything. I said, you flower some, so sweet, I take you to dinners. And you can be nothing. And now when I leave now, you want me? Fuck you. - Yeah, it's a very immature, you know, like I, I'm done with that song and dance. Like I'm really over it. And so I think it needed to happen for the last time for me to be like, hey, wake your shit up because you are capable so much. And like I know what I bring to the table and like what I can offer someone. So doing that kind of game is just, it's not cutting it anymore. And I don't, I don't even want to do that anymore. 'Cause it hurts me to hurt someone else. - Well, I think what was positive to see is like, I feel like we like watched you grow on the bachelor. - Yes, oh absolutely. - Like when you were like, fuck, maybe I do have to let my walls down. Like, cause Joey kept being like, do you like me? - I know. - Hello. And you're like, I don't know, like you'll see tomorrow. And it was like, it was so classic what you're describing. And I think it's so relatable because I think it's like, this want to not be vulnerable. And you want to make sure they like you before you're vulnerable with them. But for you to actually know, if you guys like each other, you have to be vulnerable in the fucking first place. So you can't be like, walls up the whole time. And I think that like, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. Like I feel like you left the bachelor in a better position for your love life. Cause you're like, I now know what I'm gonna move forward and I'm what I'm gonna do when I meet someone that I'm actually attracted to. I'm not gonna make them think I hate them. - I know. I know I have to let them know. I know 100% and like, being on the bachelor, it showed my friends and family that I am a lot more emotional than they've ever seen me. That was probably the hardest thing watching it back was having my friends and family see how much I cried. Cause I don't cry. That's just not my thing. I'm not that girl. And so they couldn't even believe it. They're like, holy shit, like, but it was a lot more than just crying over a guy. It was like, I was being, I felt like I was at war at times where it was like just so many things accumulated into one where I was like, okay, I'm so drained, but I did. It opened me up. It allowed me to know that it's okay to be vulnerable and to let my feelings out. And it's better sooner than later because a guy that likes you and wants something with you should know how you feel. Because that's the only way your guys are gonna move forward. And I totally get it now. Everything you're saying, I think, led to this perfect, obvious next step, which is we need to talk about the bachelor at. Oh, yes. Because we watch you almost as like your character arc is like you come in and you're like, your walls are up and you're kind of falling for this guy, but you don't know if you can because you don't, if he likes you and then you let him in and then you get heartbroken, but you learned so much and like we're all rooting for you. I feel like America was rooting for you. And America was absolutely devastated when you were not announced as the bachelor at. Yeah. Where you offered the role as bachelor at. Obviously I have been trying my hardest to say silent about this, but I think that moving forward and if I'm going to be in this world, like I have to be honest, especially with the people who have supported me. And the answer is yes. Yeah, I was offered the role. I mean, it was mine until I said it wasn't and yeah, it became very overwhelming to the point where I had to decline. So thank you for sharing. Yeah. How far along were you in the process of like becoming the bachelor at until you pulled out? Yeah, well, to the point where I was doing fittings, like it was set in stone, I was in it. Yeah. Again, like, you know, bringing up Jen and all of this, like I, you know, she was one of my closest girls in the house and she was always verbalizing how badly she wanted this. And when everyone around me was so supportive of me being in this position and everyone wanted this for me, I kind of took a second. I'm like, why am I not happy? Why am I not excited about this? And it took me like realizing that it's just not my time where I was like, guys, respectfully, I need to decline. I need to take a step back. I was not in the red right head space for this, especially knowing that like, because I know the extensive process it was to be on the show, right? So having a bunch of guys do the exact same thing. And they're there for me. I didn't want to waste anyone's time. And honestly, like, yeah, it was hard for me to kind of jump right back into it, honestly. I mean, I think I can be honest. Like, yeah. you were about to come on the show and we were gonna announce you as a bachelor, right? - Yeah. - What, like a month ago? - Yeah. - And that, I remember I was gonna have you on on like, a Monday and on like Sunday. I get the call, like Maria went back to Toronto. - Yeah. - What were those like next few days like once you turned it down? - Yeah, no, I, the one thing about having such a great, like production behind you and like my producers were so supportive of me and like, just being open and honest of where I was mentally and how I felt about everything, you know, like, everyone was so excited and I know what this season could have been like and it would have been great. I just was not ready and you know, coming back home, I just, when I say that I just wanted to come back home back to reality and just take time off from all of this, like I meant it and I think people saw that and recognize that I was imposing as much and like I was not speaking on things because as much as like I wanted my time off but I also wanted Jen to have her moment and like she is the most perfect bachelorette in my eyes. Like I couldn't think of anyone better to do this and she was so ready for it and that was enough for me to kind of say, yeah, this is, it's not my time. It was, it was a hard time because everyone, again, everyone was so wanting this for me but I, yeah, I just, I just needed to be home with my family and friends and take that time off to be honest. - When you saw how devastated America was, like how did it make you feel? - Yeah, I mean, a part of me obviously was so grateful and like I, like when people even come up to me and ask for a photo or talk to me and like love me off, I'm like, I'm an of you, like I don't deserve this. I'm just so appreciative of it and like that was one thing that kind of kept me going in this, in this process because I was like, I wanna do this for them, you know? Like I wanna do this for the people that love and support me but in my time, like that's not doing it for the right reasons. - Okay, but when you say you, it wasn't your time and you weren't ready. - Yeah. - You're saying you weren't, yeah. - Why, like I need to understand a little bit more, like why, why did you turn it down? - Well, okay, like what people saw on their screens was only the half of what I kind of went through in the house. Like yes, did I have time off before it aired? Yes, but again, everything was so like, I was so anxious throughout the whole thing. And I get it, it would have been my own show, it would have been me kind of having like more control over things but again, like it's so isolating being in there and I would have to give up my phone. Again, my free, like not my freedom, but you know, like having to be alone in that and I just wasn't comfortable. I wasn't just mentally prepared for it. - I think that's, I appreciate you sharing that because again, I think it's like so many of the women from the season would have been amazing batches around. - Oh, so many, yeah. - And Jen though, is the perfect pick. - She's gonna be a question. - She's gonna be great and you would have been great and it would have been completely different seasons but I appreciate you saying and I think I wish, I think what you're doing, more people should take note of. I was like, you're not running for the cloud and the fame. Like there was an obvious answer of like you would be on TV for another how many episodes and everyone would see your face and you'd be on posters and billboards and you prioritize it. You were like, I literally am so fucking anxious and I don't feel good and I'm gonna prioritize that over getting my bag to the right. - 100%, 100% like that never interests me, interests me to begin with going on the show and I wasn't ready to milk my 15 minutes. Like I remember Wells, he was like, I don't know, he did the bartending on, yeah. So he went out on a podcast and he was saying that I had all these expectations, that I had all these, I don't know, whatever that was. - Like requirements and asks. - Yes. And that one was I wanted my phone the entire time and I wanted my friend to be a producer and it's like, I wanted so badly to shut that shit down but again, I just didn't think it was my time in my place but like, and he was like, oh, everyone's gonna forget about her and Daisy, like this is gonna be their biggest regret. Forget about me, like I am so at the end of the day I have to do what's best for me and if that's what, like it was so disheartening to hear someone who knows this process, knows what they put us through, not what they put us through but like, knows like how like, intensities, like, you have to be fully committed. Like, knows like how mentally draining and like, physically draining this could be to like say something like that, it's like, shit the fuck up. - Literally shut the fuck up. - Like, you don't know me, you don't know me and like, I'm a very respectful person so that went so against my character and I wanted so badly to speak up on that because it's so not true. Like, everyone knows you get your phone taken away and that's it. - Right. - Well, it's also just like so tacky. It's like, he's been in this franchise for so long. - Right. - It's like, did you ask Maria if those were her requests? - Right. - Did you hear it through the grapevine because if those weren't your requests? - Broken telephone. - Right, like, don't speak on shit that you don't know about and also not to be a dick, but it seems like, I'm sure Wells would have loved to be the Bachelor back in his day. - That's what I'm saying. Well, that's what I'm saying. But here's the thing, you know, it's kind of like contradicting for you to say, I'm gonna be forgotten because I'm not Bachelor, but then where do you stand? You were never Bachelor. - Right. - So, are you forgotten? Well, I don't know you, so you're forgotten in my head, but like, no, that's kind of mean. Don't say that. I'm sorry Wells, come make me a drink, we have, but at the end of the day, I'm just saying like, I would never say that about someone else. - No, it's a great point. - I support whatever anyone else wants to do. If they, they're at the end of the day, what I wanted people to understand why I took my break was like, they would say, okay, you know, it was fairly obvious. Everyone wanted me as Bachelor at. Obviously, I was gonna be asked. I think that was, yeah, obvious. So, if I didn't do it, there had to be a reason and had to be because of me. And because I had to take a step back. So, for him to say it was because of this and the other thing, like, Wells, Wells, that's what I gotta say. I just didn't like it. I was like, just talk to me and you know what asked me and I would tell you, you know, this is not, but like, I'm not, I don't disrespect, especially the team that was there for me, who were leaving their families for me to like, be there by my side. Like, I respect them so freaking much and that it broke my heart because I knew how badly, everyone, again, everyone wanted it. No, I agree with you on the Wells thing. I think it's just like a dumb comment made by someone who like clearly would have, he's speaking from what he would have done. And we're like, we know Wells. You would have loved to be Bachelor back in the day. But I don't think he thinks he's irrelevant. So, like, why do you have to be irrelevant if you don't take the Bachelor at? Why can we all grow in different ways? Totally. Other things that we would like to do. And if it means me going back to reality, going back to my day to day, what does that have to do with you? And don't talk negative about it about it. It's okay, this, I understand I was on a reality show, but it was real life to me too. Like, if I want to go back home and just go back to me, I am able to do that. And I wanted to do it and I did it. Okay, then now that we're not gonna see you on the show, we're not gonna get to see you date 32 men. What is going on in your dating life? Are you single? I'm so single. Okay. I'm so single. Are we gonna see you in Bachelor in Paradise? No paradise. No paradise. Okay, so how are you approaching your dating life right now? You know, I just want to meet someone organically. Is that the word? Yeah. Like old school, you know? I just want someone to like come up to me while I'm grocery shopping or at a bookstore even though I don't read. I'll just be there one day. Like, I just want to meet someone the way like, I don't know, back in the day, no social media. I know my DMs are open. Tell me. Nothing. Who have you gotten DM from? Nothing. Shut up. Shut up. Look at that. You, I can already tell when you're lying to me. Your jaw just says, no one. No, I swear. Who's in there? Bitch, who's in there? Who's in there? Who's in there? Do you want to look at my DMs? Give her my phone. Have you not gotten a celebrity DM yet? From who? Who? Who? Tell me. Who is message you from? Who? I'm Mary. I know, sorry. Who have you gotten DMs from? Come on. Like, just bachelor nation. Oh, give us one. Come on. No way. The, the, the golden bachelor rights. What? I think we're going to say the golden bachelor. I'm like, no. No, no, no. The golden bachelor rights. Like, people who support me. They, you know what, man, it has all these men. No, none. I bitch. Okay. Can you hook me up? No. I think Peter, as if you're watching this, I saw you at Coachella and I did not like that, but I'm open. Wait. The guy that played Dahmer. Yeah. He don't say that. He was in so many other fucking things. Sorry. You're going to let people know that I'm interested in fucking Dahmer. Not Dahmer. Are you really kinky shit like that in the bed? No, no, no, no. But I like horror, right? So he's like the horror icon of our generation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. So hot. Okay. So no guys in your DMs. But I don't want that though. You want to meet someone at Stage Coach this weekend. Mm-hmm. You're dancing in the moonlight. Post-modal alone is singing. You're like, oh. And then someone grabs your arm. Is he going to grab my arm? No. Oh my leg. Oh my god. Okay. Wait a second. What? Are you that flexible? I could be. No. I could be. I could be, guys. I'm flexible. Take note. Are you doing splits on the peepee? I. - I could be. - Hey, why not? - Wait, do you have to live all that shit? - Do it! - Are you okay? - Do you use your dance moves in the bedroom? - No. - No. - Just your flexibility. - Just my flexibility? - Yes, yeah, I can throw my leg behind my head. - You guys hear that? - DMS are open. - I'm joking, I don't want fucking DMs. I really don't. Guys, I'm not kidding. - Who would you answer in your DMs, except for Dahmer? - Who else? - Not Dahmer, man. Evan Peter. - Sorry, I'm Peter. Sorry. - Oh my God. - Okay, who would I, I don't know, someone who's sweet, kind, ready for a relationship, no games? I don't know, who do you think I should answer? - I need to think about that. I'm trying to think of Matt as any friends, so we can keep it in the family. - I don't like a guy, like I used to think I wanted a guy with like a big, big, big personality. - Yeah, no. - But we're gonna clash. - They need to shut the fuck out of the lesbian stars. - Yes. - I learned that soon. I was like, okay, when I started reading on my Leo chart, I was like, oh, I can't, Leo, bitch. - I'm rising Leo. - Yeah, there we go. - What are you rising what? - I think there could be a Virgo in there, or I'm just saying that to make you excited. - Wait, so what's your boyfriend, husband? - He's a hubby. - He's an Aries, and it works perfectly. - It works perfectly, because Dahmer is fire and fire. - Yeah, it's great. - But he's like, he's great. I just run the house, and then he's great. - He's great, 'cause he got you. - Because he's like dominant, but not in the way that like I actually have the last word. - But that's what I'm saying. - Like he's a man one. - You want a man, but who lets me have, you're fucking, like have your independence, and like don't be terrified of your success, and like when you're in a room, he's like, go do your thing, babe. - Yes, because they know at the end of the day, you're gonna make them feel like the biggest man in that fucking room. - Yes, yes, boom. - Okay, we're gonna play a game, so we're now dating. I'm gonna give you a scenario. - Am I dating? - Okay, well, you're dating. Well, you're trying to. Okay, I'm gonna give you a scenario that could happen on a hard, okay, what? - So yeah, I'm like, I'm not trying that hard. Okay, so I'm gonna give you a scenario. Okay, that could happen on a first couple dates with someone, and you're gonna tell me what you would do. - Go ahead. - He subtly flexes how much money he makes. - Ugh, I pay the bill and leave, make it feel low. Take his balls and come right off, take your money and go and press some other bitch. - Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. - Wait, what? - No, I love it, no, I love it. This is great. Is there any scenario where it would be hot if someone's flexing about their money? - No, never. - Absolutely never. And you know what, the rich people know, I'd say I know all the rich people, but they know they don't flung it that way and the people that do don't actually have it. I like a guy who's modest, honest? - Modest. - No, well, not much of his money. Like I want you to spend money. But I mean, I don't need him to talk about it. Like who are you trying to impress? - Like it's almost like you want to know he's wealthy through what he says of like, oh my God, like I can't wait to take you to Paris some or we have to go. And you're immediately like, huh, like, what are you talking about? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got this. Like it's through the contextual clues. You know, he's wealthy, not by him like flexing on you and you're like, you definitely don't have that much. If you're talking about how much money you have, you don't have that much money. - I have no interest in hearing it, so 100%. - Okay. He texts back way too fast, like every single time. - Oh, no, yeah, I don't play games like that when I see the text I answer. - No, Maria, hold on. - No, I'm not kidding, answer that text fast or else. No, I'm being serious, do not wait on it. - Hold on, what if it's like, literally every single time you press serious? - I'm being serious. - Enter, he's already typing. - Oh, type. - Type. - Type. - Why? Why not? - He's that eager. - I mean, he's there. I mean, that to me shows you're not playing games. Like, if you, here's the thing. - But he doesn't have a job. - Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Okay, no, here, let me say, if you see the text, and you answer, I like it. I don't need, like, obviously, yes, the man should have a fucking job and he shouldn't be seeing his phone right away. But I mean, for the most part, like, yeah, like, when you see it, I don't, I don't find it hot, you waiting hours to respond. - Yeah, so we don't need two business days. - No. - And then it's like, sorry, just saw that. - But if you're busy, do your thing. - Okay, he's very into sexting. - Where are we at in the relationship? - A couple of months. - So we're dating. - Yeah. - And we're exclusive. - Oh, I don't know. - Well, I'm only going to sext you if we're exclusive. - Okay, good to know. Really? Weirdly feeling. I look back at the dates and I'm like, I feel like I was sexting when I was like getting towards exclusive. - Oh, no, I didn't be exclusive with you because I have fun sexting. - You do have fun sexting. See, I feel like it was like a exhausting. - Because usually the guys that I talk to aren't from Toronto and so it's long distance. So sexting is what keeps us close. - Ah, not FaceTime Sacks. - Oh, I mean, that's all the above. - Okay, so you don't mind a little sext. - Yeah, but not all the time at all. - You want it to be like special and sporadic and keep it exciting. - Okay. He leaves a toothbrush at your apartment after a few weeks of seeing you but never says anything about it. - I throw it out. - The fuck is this here? I wouldn't even notice if you'd throw it out and be like, the fuck. - That's it. - No, no, honestly, I would be like, well, first of all, why don't you have a place and why aren't I leaving mine at yours? And also, you know what if I find, as I'm asking you, this question quite strange, it's like, how did the toothbrush get there? - I know, what the fuck? - He put it in his pocket. - He's like, no. - Literally. - No, that would be a little weird. - Because probably if you're not, like, you probably were at dinner or you're at the bar. - Yeah, you have this motherfucker keeping it in the back pocket. - Yeah. - Like poking out the whole time. - Yeah, no, I would be like a little grossed out. - I'd be like, I don't know if it's ever happened, but I'll let you know when it does. - Yeah. - And he's like, oh, my God, my teeth will stain if I don't get this white wine off or red wine off them. Like, I don't know. - He traveled, that's a turn off. He travels with the toothbrush, 'cause it's been years. - No, no, no. - His mom's like, no. - That's a no. - Okay, so we're not appreciating if a guy leaves a toothbrush. You're just starting to handle it. - I don't think I would think too much. I mean, there would need to be a conversation. I can't imagine a guy just, like, slipping it in there. But I think if he did slip it in there without a conversation, I would be like, what the fuck? Have you ever hooked up with a guy that when you went to his house and his bathroom? - There was another one. - Yeah, or it's like fully stocked ready to go for like a woman post. - No, but that's a little fucking weird, right? - It's weird I've been there before. I've been there before and I'm like, I don't know. - Like, what are you a sexer on the go? No, sexer on the go. Like, what are you like a fucking? - A fucker on the go. - The fucker on the go? Like, he's ready. He's equipped. - I'm thinking of the baby wipes. - Oh my God. - He's got like the makeup wipe. - Oh my God. - But, you know what, stop this for now. - This is what I will say, if a guy has his entire bathroom stocked for a girl, if it's a one-night stand, I'm like, thank you. Thank you that I can take my makeup off. I can like put my tampon, imagine if he's tampons. But, well, I've become using tampons. - That's a whole level. - If you're seeing him in a way that you like him, I would be like, no fuck this show. - Yeah, I agree. - Oh my God, you want to hear sorry? - Yeah. - So I've seen this guy. This is before the show. And I went to his house and he had a, his and her sink and he had moved out and he moved to this new place. I'll never fucking forget this. So he had a his and her sink and then I walked into the bathroom and there's his sink. It's all his shit. - Right. - And then there's this random toothbrush in the her sink. So I go, what the fuck is that? He's like, oh, it's mine. I use, I swear to God, this was it. This was the excuse. I almost want to puke. He's like, oh no, it's mine. I use two separate toothbrushes. One that's a little bit hard bristles, bristles or the fuck and one that's softer. I go, like, I don't know, do I look like I'm stupid? Okay, don't answer that. I don't fuck with him right now. He went to the extent of grabbing the toothbrush and using it to prove to me that he does use it. And I went, you just did the most and you're embarrassing. So goodbye. - It's actually like regardless of if he's lying or if he's telling the truth, both are awful. - Right. - Both are awful. - Why was it on that side? Why was it on your fucking hands? - Just put them in the same glass. - Right. - Let's see what messy side. - Put both of your toothbrushes in the same cup. - Right. - In the same area. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Let's see you about his ex on one of the first few dates. - You know what? I like this, I like to do this thing where I call it honesty hour, it's actually a hidden thing that I like, I get every guy with it, to be honest, girls, take notes. So I like to hang out with guys casually, very casual, let them know, we're like, we're friends, we're gonna like see where this goes kind of thing. Let's have a bottle of wine and let's ask each other anything. And like, let's not judge each other on this. So I usually ask that, I'll say, what are, or if your ex can describe you in any way, how would it be? Because I like to know, I wanna see how they're gonna A, talk about their ex, if it's gonna be in a nice way. But also, I wanna know what they would think that their ex would say about them. So just like kind of opening that up and like letting them know it's a comfortable setting to like, talk about that. But if they're opening up about their ex randomly without me asking, I'd be like, girl, girl. - Girl. - I would call him a girl. - But I'd be like, listen, I think you need to send her a text and say your story because you're still hung up on it. I'm not interested. - Yeah, time for me to go. - But I don't know, I wouldn't wanna know. - Okay, wait, honesty hour, I'm kind of loving it. This is my problem. First of all, I feel like every single time that a guy, okay, this is my experience. - They're still not being honest. - There's still not being honest. - No, this is my problem. Every fucking time, I think that girls always want to fucking know about a guy's past. I'm like, when I'm at Matt, I'm like, tell me every single ex you have. Tell me their Instagram, who are they, then some of them I was like, oh my god, like, whoa, you dated her? Oh my god. And then he never asks in return. - Oh my god, 'cause they don't wanna know, but I like that, though. - I mean, I didn't borrow them so much that they don't want to know, a guy who wants to show me. - They don't show me. I know. You're right. - Like, make you jealous. - Yeah. - Like, ask. - And then they don't ask. - I can see why they wouldn't wanna know, because in my mind, this way of my thought process would be, is that they like me so much that they can't imagine me with anyone else. - I believe that. And I actually-- No, not at all. It's not, right? No. But then there's also the other guy who would be like, no, show me every single one and he's like, weirdly like obsessive and like wants to like take ownership of you and wants to know. Like, I like the guy who would be like, you know what, I don't even want to see it. No, I love the guy that does that. I remember Matt did that to me on the day. I was like, so do you, are you going to, I can show you, do you see this guy sends me? It breaks me. Such confidence. Such confidence. But sometimes I'm like, mother fucker, let me make you jealous. Right. The second question is, when you ask them, oh, what would you actually say about you? What do you think, Maria, if I ask you, what would all of your exes say about you? Oh, fuck. I don't like this turning on me. I think they would say that I'm honest, that I'm loyal and I can be a little nuts at times. I love the honesty. What a shocker, right? That's me. I don't think so. Self-aware. Self-aware. So, you're not doing the voucher right. Where are we going to see you? We've got to see you more often. I would love to be seen more often. No, actually, you know what, I'm not kidding you when I say this, I'm taking it step by step. This, I want to be on this podcast. This was my first step. And now, what I'm going to do moving forward, I don't know. Yeah. I really don't know. And so, to give an answer, but I'm sure people will see more of me. Yeah. I think that's a great answer. Like, I can imagine, like, this is very overwhelming. Right. So overwhelming. Like, you had a pretty normal life before all this. Does your dad really make sprinkles? Sprinkles. Yeah. That's kind of cool. I know. And every time I say sprinkles, they're like sprinklers. I'm like, no, no, guys, the shapes and sugars you see on baked goods. But people don't get it. But someone has to do it. Do you like sprinkles? I, you know, my dad owned a chocolate factory before the sprinkles. And I wasn't a big chocolate year. I know. I'm not like a dessert girl. Like, he did like, chocolate covered almonds, everything, and so, but as for sprinkles, yeah, I mean, do I usually put sprinkles on things? Yes. I'm going to say yes, because I own a sprinkles company. But listen, we, everyone, you need it. We need it. Don't we need it. We need it. I think someone's got to do it. So you're going to stagecoat. Thanks, Papa. What are you going to do it? Who are you going to stagecoach with? The sisters from my show. Iconic girls love they are the best. Oh, you told me you were going with your sisters, and I was like, who? Your sisters? They are like my sisters now. Who are you going with? What are the names? Lauren and Allison, Hollinger. Okay. And Sal. Do you love country music? I, I, I, um, I, I, I, I like country music, but am I the biggest fan? No. You're kind of like a Nickelback girl. I love Nickelback, bitch. I knew it. Bitch, I cannot wait to Nickelback. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I love Nickelback. I'm so excited. No, I really love Nickelback, and I don't get why they have such a bad rep because there's that. I don't know. It's like me. Why do I have such a bad rep? I don't get it either. I, I, Nickelback, I'm with you. But, uh, not after this episode, I feel like we really kind of covered it all, and we didn't cover anything. I feel like you, we need to, like, we need to do 19 more of these to actually get to it. I would love to. I, I really had so much fun with you today. I think you're even better in person. You're so fun to be around. You have insane stories. I do. And, yeah, there's so many more that I actually, yeah, I'm not going to say it. What? No, no, no. No, we'll save it. We'll save it for something else. Yes. Maybe you'll do one day. Oh, maybe. I have an idea. Oh, well, I'm interested in hearing more. Okay. Maria, thank you so much for coming on, Caller Daddy. It was truly a pleasure, and it was very fun. Pleasure's all mine. Love you. I love you. Fuck bitch. [MUSIC]