The episode features a lively, conversational segment centered around Sean, a dedicated actor known for his quiet professionalism and deep involvement in theater. The group shares humorous stories about his life, including setting the thermostat to air conditioning in winter and his commitment to rehearsals despite challenges like snowstorms. They also celebrate his new look and role in the upcoming film *Behemoth*, directed by Tony Gilroy and starring Pedro Pascal and Olivia Wilde. The narrative expands to include Margot Robbie, who recounts her journey from Australia to Hollywood, her early obsession with films, and her breakthrough role in *The Wolf of Wall Street*—where she improvised a memorable slap at Leonardo DiCaprio, leading to a pivotal career moment. Margot shares how she transitioned into producing, co-founding the company Lucky Chat with her husband. The conversation is enriched by nostalgic anecdotes about acting, improvisation, and personal growth, blending humor with heartfelt insights about passion, resilience, and unexpected success. The episode ultimately reflects on how creative paths often unfold through chance, perseverance, and genuine connection—highlighting the shared journey of actors and artists navigating fame, identity, and the joy of creating.
you know hey will good morning how are you today hey sean yeah good morning i'm good
i uh i set my thermostat even though i it's it's winter oh my god hang on fucking let me sit down
for this yeah i set my thermostat uh to put the air conditioning on because everybody in my
building in new york has the heat on so at night i'm sleep with the air conditioning on isn't that
kind of dumb no it's no it's not dumb i'm just trying to think of a a a synonym right now it's
Oh, you know what?
It's Smartless.
Oh.
Welcome to Smartless.
So, Sean.
Hey.
Yeah, you know, now.
I just, I'm just happy to be here.
Shut up.
God damn it.
This is amazing.
Jason, don't talk to him like that.
Hang on.
Sean, shut up.
Yeah.
Sean, you're on Eastern Time, so he's more cups of coffee into his day than we are.
Sean, he's so, he never lets it show.
He works his freaking tail off.
He's there in rehearsal doing this play, and then he just shows up, and he doesn't complain.
Do you ever notice that?
Well, live with me.
Let me ask Crankerville.
Crankerville, do you notice?
I've never heard you complain.
about anything.
He doesn't, right?
I do.
I kind of do.
Well, I would. No, it's. I get Scotty.
Scotty's like,
all he does is complain.
Scotty's listening
and that was it.
So wait,
is Scotty always on
the extra set of kids?
Not always,
but a lot of times
he listens just for fun.
I love it.
Now, Sean,
you haven't. I got a full night
of Willie's new look
last night.
Oh, right.
Yeah, yeah.
I got it the other night.
He's goddamn handsome
with this facial hair.
Look at that.
Cut his hair.
Yeah, you never
grow your beard out.
I know.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Where are your rings, Willie?
Did you get to keep the rings?
I know.
I had the rings.
I know, I know.
So for Tracy,
Will's doing this big film
to follow up the other film.
Oh.
It's for a. It's not for a. Is it for a part?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's for the thing
I just did with Tony Gilroy.
Well, say what it is.
Tony Gilroy's directing.
You and Pedro Pascal
and who else?
And Olivia Wilde
and a lot of great people
and it's called Behemoth
and yeah.
Yeah, it's very cool
that you're part of that.
Yeah, it was really fun.
Yeah, it was really fun
that they asked me to. Well, wait.
Are you playing
some fucking stud?
Because you're looking like it.
No, he's. It's. I can't really say anything
because I realized
that they haven't said anything
of what it's about
so I'm not allowed
to really say it.
It's not Star Wars.
Fucking. Please, my God.
Do you have like
watermark scripts and stuff?
Of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's. Well, you're handsome in it.
I can tell you that.
So you're going to hold the look.
You're going to keep the look.
I mean, you know, listen.
I mean, for anyone
who cares out there,
us soft actor guys,
the only time we ever stumble
into a new look,
it's because somebody with taste
in a makeup trailer
kind of carved one into us
for a part
and then we're like,
we're done with the movie
and we're like,
oh, maybe I'll just hold on
to a little element of this.
Look at me.
Like when you had your long hair
for a while.
Well, I still. Yeah, I mean, I still. Amanda, I came home.
Amanda, I came home.
Amanda was like,
oh, you're keeping that.
Really?
Oh, God.
Yeah, but you cut it off
pretty fast
after the Black Rabbit.
But it's still a little long,
isn't it?
I mean, it's not stupid long
like it was before.
Remember when Jason got
like really kind of in shape
and he was doing Black Rabbit
and he had the long hair
and he was really ripped up.
Wait, I'm still kind of
in shape a little bit?
And Amanda was like,
it's kind of like having sex
with like a stranger.
And she said,
kind of with glee.
With some tweaker
you give a ride to
to ride home for.
That's hilarious.
She was a little too excited
about it last night.
A little change of pace
never hurts, right?
But we miss you, Sean.
It was the first time. I know.
What, did you guys
get together last night?
Yeah, we did Sunday dinner.
Sunday fun day.
And it was the first time
in a while for me.
And it was so great
seeing everybody
and seeing this guy.
Did Carolyn go?
The love of my life.
No, she was. Something came up.
It's not working out, Sean.
It's not working out.
We're making news today, guys.
No, no, no.
We are not making news.
It's not true.
Something came up.
And then we had. But we had Danny and Dawn Dees,
which was great seeing them.
I just heard from Dawn.
Yeah, she's great.
Willie Speck.
Oh, man.
Jimmy Hedge.
The whole crew.
Jimmy Hedge.
And we saw Sweet Richard.
Sweet Little Maple.
Oh, Richard and Jenny.
And Richard and Jenny.
But Jennifer Aniston
wasn't there, was she?
Oh, you know it, girl.
Yo, you know it.
She was frying up some. What did we have last night?
We had those. We had those burgers.
By the way,
how about Thoreau
had sleeves last night?
Yeah, well, it's cold out here in Los Angeles.
Yeah, it was a little cold last night.
Jeez, man.
He had sleeves,
but he had two T-shirts.
He had the two
layered T-shirts.
He did.
He had a Steve Bannon
combo going.
Oh, my God.
God, everybody was there.
It was fun.
You guys were missed.
You and Scotty.
Yeah, well, that's very nice.
Sorely missed.
Sorely, sorely missed.
Any way you can get
a vicious stomach virus
and get fire,
get fired off that play?
I think about it all the time.
You know, yesterday
was the big, big, big snowstorm.
Massive.
So we had. Oh, so we canceled.
We had to cancel rehearsal.
So I. But I still wanted to run.
Is this you guys
rehearsing out in a park?
I mean. Still got it.
Got a new. A little excuse.
Let's take a day off.
Yeah, we're doing. It's outside.
It's in the. It's in Central Park outside.
No, I said. So it was rehearsal
because you couldn't drive
or go anywhere in the streets
or anything like that.
So anyway,
so they canceled
and I said this. But I still wanted to run the show
so it's like fresh in my head,
you know?
So I said,
Scotty,
there's a performance
in the bedroom tonight.
It starts at 7 p.m.
There's one ticket
because there's one chair
in the bedroom.
I said you can. There's a bathroom.
There's no intermission
but there's a bathroom
right next to the chair
and if you want to fall asleep
during the performance,
there's a bed.
Jesus, I'm getting a hard-on.
Tell me more about. What a sell-off.
Yeah.
What a sell-off on this play.
I mean, Jesus.
How many times
does that pitch
come out of your mouth?
I was going to make a joke
but then Sean,
it occurred to me,
you know what would be
a great biopic you should do
because you know a lot about it
is the story of Chef Boyardee.
Why not?
The Chef Boyardee story.
Don't fucking threaten me.
But how does a rehearsal
for a one-man show go?
What do you mean,
how does it go?
It's just him.
It's just you're up there
and then you have the director
sitting in the middle of the house.
Yeah, yeah.
And Tech is just you
and it's just, right?
It's weird.
But you know,
the. Do you like the show
with a flashlight?
Is that it?
Yeah.
Well, people have to
use their phone lights.
That's how we get the light.
Everybody in the audience.
No, they. During the run-through
the other day,
we had like
our first quote audience
but it was all like
the producers
and the people
doing behind-the-scenes stuff.
So it was like 20 people
which is a lot of people
after you've been rehearsing
by yourself.
And so I walked in
and I started laughing.
I'm like,
I can't do this.
This is insane.
Oh, God.
They all start panicking.
Now, I think we talked
about this before
but forgive my old man,
Brain.
I've forgotten.
Do you have
some sort of a net,
some sort of a fail-safe
like if I go up
so you. Somebody just offstage?
Yeah, well,
for previews
which are two weeks old,
there'll be somebody
in the front row
on book.
Front row?
That's. You can't look
to the audience
for the line?
No, but you can just
say line or whatever.
Really?
And the person
in the front row. Like, there's gonna be
a person in the front row
with a script
in their hands.
This is correct.
When you say person,
you mean Scotty, obviously.
Yeah.
Isn't that gonna be
distracting for the people
around this person
that this person's
snapping script pages?
What are you gonna do?
I'll tell you
what you're gonna do.
You put somebody
off fucking offstage
in the wings.
For the show,
that's something
This is. Don't tell them
how to do it.
But you're selling
tickets for the preview.
That's correct.
That's correct.
I don't get that.
Because they get to see
how the sausage is made.
It should be a discount
and ticket them
because Sean
has never shit together yet.
What are you,
an advocacy group?
What are you doing?
By the way, Sean,
quick question.
First of all, Sean,
obviously Jason and I
are thrilled to have you
on the show.
Do you. Do you. Are you. Sean, is. I'm such a big fan
of both of you.
We don't usually
have theater types.
You're so good.
Do you have any stories
that you'd like to. Sean, do you. Is Scotty off book?
Seriously.
Wait, you mean
because from running lines
with me?
Yeah.
I mean, a tiny. Not really.
I mean, a tiny bit.
Scotty, come into frame.
Scotty, are you off book?
He's way down there.
Scotty, you off book
a little bit?
You know that. You love that one line,
I say.
You know that one line.
The one you always say,
you nailed it?
What is it?
Shut up, Scotty.
Just shut up.
Hey, Scotty,
what's the first line
of the play?
I don't know.
Oh.
That's your man,
front row.
What if the lights
come up?
I'm like, line.
Did you get a deal on him?
Yeah.
Let me tell you,
I told you that thing
when I auditioned
for David Chase
for Sopranos
and I had one line
and I got the silver cup,
and Georgianne Watkins,
the casting director,
I go and she goes,
I know you're going
to meet him,
but he wants everybody
to say one line.
I was like, one line?
How am I going to,
you know,
and a bunch of actors
out there for it.
This is like 2001 or two.
Anyway, I go out there.
I go into the room
with David Chase,
Georgianne Watkins in there,
and I've got this piece
maybe with the one line
and she goes,
you ready to start?
I go, yeah,
and he's just watching us
going to me deliver it to her
and I look at her
and I just go,
line.
And he burst out laughing
and I got the silver cup.
Not a comedy, but he was, I think he was so, he was like,
This motherfucker just came in here and said.
Was this for Sopranos?
Sopranos, yeah.
You were on the Sopranos?
Yeah, I know.
That's what a lot of people say.
Wait, come on.
Really?
I didn't know that.
I want to see that.
Can you believe I still have not watched that show?
I haven't either.
It's easy to believe.
It's real good.
It's real good.
It's going to be a hit, I hear.
All right, come on.
Here we go.
Jamie, let's get to your guest.
I mean, what's going on?
Let's get to our guest.
I mean, she's probably left or asleep by now.
Here we come.
Wait a second.
Let me pull up the notes.
We have an actor that I met once, very briefly, and was as knocked out by her charm and warmth
as you would think that you would be.
She's one of our biggest stars, an incredibly successful producer.
She kills it in both comedy and drama, big films and small.
She has box office success as well as critical praise.
Her nominations are numerous, including two for an Academy Award.
She knows how to hold her breath for five minutes.
What?
She's a trained pickpocket.
I know who this is.
She plays ice hockey competitively.
Come on.
She's at the top of the mountain, folks, but has cleared an hour for a good old smartless
chat and giggle, and I couldn't be more grateful to her.
Ga-gang, please welcome Ms. Margot Robbie.
Oh, hi.
Hey, Margot.
Hi, Margot.
What's going on, Margot?
She's a big Rangers fan.
I am.
Yeah?
I've been sitting here giggling listening to you guys shoot the shit.
That was really fun.
We try to keep it tight.
No, I love that.
That was my favorite part.
Yeah, I love the Rangers.
I love the Rangers.
Have you guys seen each other out there at the garden?
No.
No?
I've seen you there.
You know, I'm, yeah, I'm incognites, but I'm short for incognito.
I have to say, before we keep talking about hockey, which I hope we do, Will, I have to
say, I fucking loved Is This Thing On?
And I, you are so good in it.
And I swear to God, as soon as I finished watching it, the first thing I said, I was
like, give the man an Oscar.
Like, you were so unreal in it.
I loved it.
Oh, that's very kind of you.
Thank you so much.
And now, let's have your review on his, on this look, this new look.
Are you in love with him as I am?
Honestly, quite the reveal when I whipped off the piece of paper from the screen just
then.
You look great.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You look tanned as well.
Have you been on holiday?
It's a new bronzer.
It's a new, right?
Yeah.
Jason's new line.
He does a lot of men's skincare.
This one is water resistant.
It's good for all skin.
All climates.
Won't leak on you.
Won't run.
He does, this one is called Early June.
So, it's not too heavy.
It just looks like the summer started.
It's working for you.
Margot, so nice to meet you.
I mean, this is so cool.
Thank you, guys.
How exciting.
And I had no idea about the hockey thing.
You play hockey?
You still play hockey?
Do you know what?
I don't, I haven't for a couple of years, but I loved the Mighty Ducks when I was a
kid, the movie.
Sure, sure.
And I definitely.
I desperately wanted to play ice hockey, but I'm from a place called the Gold Coast in
Australia.
Sure.
And there was no ice.
And so, there was no way to play ice hockey.
So, I ended up playing field hockey all through school.
And when I got to America, the first thing I did, I was like, I'm going to play ice hockey.
I'm here.
I've made it in America.
I can finally live out this dream.
And so, I joined an ice hockey team.
Really?
And I hadn't really ever ice skated.
Margot, as a Canadian, the nation of Canada is behind you.
You are all of a sudden, you've reached elite status in Canada.
It was so fun.
Now, was this before or after the skating training for I, Tonya?
Well before.
It would have been very helpful if this came after that.
But no, it was well before.
So, I hadn't really skated before.
I had like here and there, like, you know, I don't know, just a few times maybe in my
life, but not really.
And I kind of, I think I just thought, oh, I'll just run.
And there's so much padding that honestly, it was.
It was fine.
But I played in a co-ed team.
And there was only one other girl on the team.
But you know, when you're in all your gear, you can't really tell that you're a girl.
You know, like, I just looked like a very small guy.
I had a problem with that one Saturday night.
Go ahead.
Hey, man, you need a ride?
Yeah, so I just looked like a small dude on the team.
So, I'd get picked on.
They would check me so hard.
But yeah, it was a good time.
That's brilliant.
It's pretty ballsy.
And then I take off the helmet at the end of the game.
They'd be like, oh, shit, sorry, I didn't know you were a girl.
But you never, you never got any, you didn't get any, you didn't tune anybody up.
You didn't, you didn't get any, any fights, right?
No, no, no.
Throw the gloves?
I was, I was, I was way smaller than everyone.
Wow, that's cool.
All right, so you're out there in Australia and you are, you're enjoying, was it, done
a tiny bit of research.
Was it, was it the infatuation with Harry Potter that got you really excited about movies
and, and, and, and, and, and acting and stuff like that, that, that, that's what started
the, where did, where did the, where did it all start out there?
Because mom or, mom nor dad was a part of any of this stuff.
No, no one's, no one's in the biz in my family.
I had never met anyone who'd even so much as walked on a film set.
Yeah, you were on a farm, right?
Until I was, I was, I spent a lot of time on a farm, but I myself was not on a farm.
I was on property, but a lot.
But, no, I don't know.
I was just always obsessed.
I was obsessed with it.
I was obsessed with movies.
I, I would just watch them again and again.
Like, we had a, you know, like most kids from the 90s, like, we had a collection of videos
and I'd just watch them to death and then I'd recreate them and, like, I was just obsessed.
And Harry Potter was a big, a big part of that?
I was obsessed with the books.
Yeah.
So, no, that really didn't bleed into my, like, movie obsession.
I was just obsessed with movies and watching them and, yeah, my mom just used to watch
me, like, I'd, I'd regurgitate, like, like, she'd speak to me.
I'd just be there making dinner in the kitchen and I'd just be reenacting something.
She kept being like, how do you, how are you, how are you remembering all this?
Where is this coming from?
Is there one that you would do over and over again?
Is there, like, one that you would do?
Yeah, was there a particular actor or actress that you were like, oh, God.
Goldie Hawn.
I was a big fan.
Good one.
I loved everything she did.
Yeah, likewise.
And then there was, like, The Fifth Element was, like, my favorite film when I was a kid.
And so I'd try and recreate all those, like, action sequences and I was, you know, I was
a bit of a dramatic fan.
How funny.
There's Chris Tucker in that, yeah.
So good.
What, um, then what, what, so then, so you go down to Melbourne, you get a couple of
jobs there such that you feel like, well, maybe this can arm me with the kind of experience
and position in the community somewhat that I can go to America and, and try to parlay
that into something bigger, better?
Totally.
Yeah.
I mean, I was on, yeah, so I was on the Gold Coast and, which ironically now a lot of movies
are shooting on the Gold Coast.
But growing up, that was, it felt very far away.
So if you really wanted to do anything, um, you know, the biggest shows were all in Sydney
and Melbourne.
Yeah.
I ended up eventually finding my way into an audition for, like, practically a student
film and ended up doing that.
And through that, you know how things are.
Like, you do one unpaid thing, it leads to another unpaid thing, leads to another thing.
And then eventually someone pays you to do it.
Um, so I finally. And you were about 16, 17, 18?
16, yeah.
So I was in my final year of high school.
And then I ended up. I ended up getting a guest role on a TV show that shot in Melbourne.
So that kind of took me into the big smoke.
And then once I was in Melbourne, that I was, I could quickly parlay, like, one guest role
into another guest role on a TV show with the same casting director.
And then while I was in Melbourne, I auditioned for Neighbours, which is a big soap opera.
Oh, yeah.
The biggest.
Oh, you've heard of it?
Of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
I'm up on all things Australia.
Sure.
Except for, I will say, I'm ignorant enough that I didn't realize that Gold Coast was
the name of the actual city.
I thought it was just kind of an area.
But it's the actual. I know, it's kind of confusing.
And you also say, you say the Gold Coast, not like in. You don't live in. You live in Melbourne, you live in Sydney, but you live on the Gold Coast, even though
that's the name of the city.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, it's confusing.
And that's up north, northeast, like Brisbane?
Yeah, exactly.
An hour drive from Brisbane, an hour drive from Byron.
And where are you today?
Where are we finding you today?
I'm in LA.
Oh, you are?
We're doing the. We're about to start the junket for Wuthering Heights, which is. Oh, I can't wait for that.
We're going to get to that.
It's so good, guys.
I'm so excited for Wuthering Heights.
I can't wait.
I'm so excited.
Words I never thought I'd say.
No, I know.
We'll hold you to that.
I mean, I'm excited.
But, all right, so what's going on with school at this moment?
So you're in your last year of high school.
Are you thinking about college?
Are you thinking about another career that might be more predictable, something that
you can count on more?
I didn't really. Yeah, I didn't really know what I was going to. Because I. It still hadn't occurred to me that I could do acting as a job, even though I had started
doing these, like, small unpaid things on the Gold Coast.
So about halfway through high school, I started, you know, I did my first, like, you know,
the thing that I described as, like, a student film.
It was, like, an independent film that never got distribution.
So I don't really know what to call it other than a tiny micro-budget film.
And so I did two of those.
I would do commercials for free and, you know, whatever.
And then the job in Melbourne kind of timed out at the end of high school.
So it turned out pretty. It turned out pretty great that I got to finish my childhood, really.
And then, you know, two months later, I got the job on Neighbours.
And then I've been working professionally ever since.
So you thought, no. I don't have time for college.
Don't have time to get a backup.
Well, I actually, to be honest, I didn't have the money to go to uni anyway.
And I kind of thought, this is crazy.
Am I really going to go to. You know, the thing is, like, you finish school, you go to university.
And I know it's like that in America, too.
Like, go off to college.
But I was like. But I don't know that there's something I want to say.
study specifically am i gonna put myself in crazy debt for like for what i was like that's insane
so i couldn't get my head around yeah because you were lucky enough to know at a young age exactly
what you wanted to do which is great don't most but most kids i mean i'm talking to my daughters
about this now it's like you don't you don't there's no pressure to like know what your career
is going to be at least in your first two years isn't it like the third and fourth year where you
have to declare your major i think it's a bit different in america i feel like in america
oh by the way all i wanted to do was go to college in america because watching movies that look like
the funnest thing in the whole world and i want to be like why what do you want to study i'm like
oh i don't care about what i would want i just want to go to college yeah that's exactly why
i want to go to a frat fraternity party and drink my daughter's in that right now and so i think i
think i get the impression that for you guys in america it's like you go to college to have a
college experience and at some point during that experience you realize oh i really like this class
i'm taking and now i'm going to shift into something else and i'm like oh i'm going to
shift into something else and i'm like oh i'm going to shift into something else and i'm going to
that direction yeah it's not really so much like that in australia you you you kind of have to
decide in high school what it is that you like so you're like oh i want to be a lawyer or i want to
do business or something and then you pick your degree and then you do that degree and it's a
little it's a little shorter as well you can even do your full degree in like two and a half years
in in australia you could kind of back it back it up like i just i my experience was i was like i
don't want i i feel like i'm just going to go and waste my time doing this when i know that that's
no and do were you doing what your parents wanted you to do too was that part of it who me yeah you
yeah a little bit one more time you're handsome look how handsome this guy is
margo i remember in college we used to have uh parties and we'd you know lug the keg up the
stairs yeah totally in this apartment totally and we charged three dollars a cup when you come in
we'd buy the kegs we'd make all this money and at the end of the night
you're like oh my god i'm going to be a lawyer i'm going to be a lawyer i'm going to be a lawyer
the floor would just be trashed with beer everywhere in our apartment and at that age
you just kind of don't care you know that's that's the dream that's that's all i wanted
do you know what i part of me was you know part of me was like oh no i'm you know i started acting
like i said all the neighbors whatever and i was like oh i haven't gone to university and i guess
i'm never going to at this point does that mean i'm am i dumb and i i remember i remember asking
i look in the mirror and say that to myself every day
i like almost wanted to check that i this didn't mean i wasn't in you know it didn't mean i wasn't
smart i my sister was you know we're very very very different people and um so she was studying
to be an accountant in university something i never would have done um but i remember saying
i was like hey can i do one of your assignments one of your uni assignments because i just need
to check that i that acting's not making me dumb and uh and i did it and and by the way like
numbers and accounting is not my forte
okay
and i got like an a minus and i i was like okay cool and then i felt good after that i was like
i'm good i can do i know i can do it because of life experience it was right well i mean i studied
it was all about you know cognitive dissonance and some boring shit yeah but yeah we'll be right
back and now back to the show all right so you get to hollywood you got oh well you're it's not
hollywood first right uh no so
i was on neighbors for three years which is a pretty intense and very very fun and amazing
training sort of thing as a young actor um yeah and so i did that for three years and then
when my contract finished i started about six months into that job on neighbors i'm looking
around you've got a cast of say 30 people from aging from eight years old to 80 years old um
and it's uh you know i looked around and i was like okay so some people are life is here some
people have you know just made a
life is here some people have you know just made a life is here some people have you know just made a
a life just from acting like and i'd ask the cast members i was like so you you don't have any side
jobs you don't have a second job that you go do and they're like no just this and i was like wow
okay so you can make enough money doing this that you can like pay for a house and put your kids
through school and they're like yeah and i was like oh excellent great i'm gonna do this then so
i'm gonna be an actor then great um and then i was looking at some of the younger cast members who
would so there was kind of three choices on neighbors either one you can't keep up you get
fired and it's like a revolving
door so like you need to be able to keep up number two you are great and you stay and you you can be
on there for like 20 30 years you know it's a long running so or option three you do it for a little
bit and then you make the jump to america and you try your luck in america so i i knew that i
wanted to be in hollywood and do like american films and um margo just just to be clear there
have been a lot of members uh cast members over the years from neighbors who have who have done
that and made and gone to america and done great things right yeah and home in a way so like
the two main soaps neighbors and home in a way so it's like kylie minogue was on neighbors and like
chris hamsworth was on home in a way so wow right yeah wow yeah that's wild all right so when you
then when you get to hollywood is there is there a safety net do you come with a bag of money do
you have an agent ready there's an aussie mafia ready made for you yes it uh yeah it's no like
truly it's like being on ramsey street which is like the street in the show it was like
just being in ramsey on ramsey street again but in america all right so who's taking the
care of you you well your fellow aussies that have been on soaps as well and you sleep on their
couches and everyone like shares info of like okay because by the way when i moved here it was 16
years ago so i was 20 i moved five days after i finished on neighbors i was quite keen to get here
and uh yeah there was no uber there was no like it was a different time there was pilot season
you had to learn how to drive on the other side of the road well not just it that that wouldn't
have been a problem it was getting a car you can't actually drive on the other side of the road
you can't actually rent a car till you're 21 and i was still 20 and so i asked the aussie you know
like our aussie mafia i was like you know what do i do if i need to get a car to get around to
these auditions and they're like okay i know a guy and so you'd go to this the guy and um he would
rent you a car kind of off the books or whatever and then you drive around to your auditions all
that russell crowe's got a little side gig out in simi valley
well i ended up crashing that car on the way and this was not a guy that you you know i didn't get
the impression that i was going to get a car and i was like oh my god i'm going to get a car and i'm
a guy that you messed with but i crashed his car and i was really scared to tell him anyways he
took the car off me obviously and then i still needed a car to get around to auditions and i
went back to the aussies and i was like what do you do when you piss off that guy like is there
another guy that you can rent a car from and they're like yes he's called the dodgy romanian
and i was like come on okay and i rented a car from the dodgy romanian as he was called and uh
uh it was like this gold colored oh god i haven't thought about it in a while
i haven't thought about this in years it was like this gold color not a lincoln but like it looked
like it's like a boxy car like from the 80s and um and this this guy was like very few words very
you know like here's the keys give me the cash we're not going to chit chat just one thing
we don't have an offensive romanian accent eddie no thank god it was like don't open the trunk
ever no come on really i am not joking just don't open the trunk and i was petrified and i
desperately wanted to make it in hollywood i'm like i'm not going on little side quest here to
open this trunk and get caught up in whatever is happening here i'm never gonna open this trunk
and uh anyways i ended up again crashing in this car i was better with you i you know what i was
always like doing my makeup and changing on the way to auditions and stuff and not paying
it was yeah it was a bit of a chaotic time anyways i crashed in this car and i was panicking i was
like holy shit what do i do there's no you
you don't even call insurance you go to call the dodgy romanian and tell him that i've just
crashed his car and he'll kill me i suppose and so i called him and he's like where are you
and i was like i gave him the address i was somewhere in venice i think and it was like
nighttime and he was like i'm coming to you and i was like oh god no and he he he rocked up with
an associate and they got out of the car and they go to the trunk looked at he looked at the damage
and he was like okay and i was like waiting to i don't know be executed and he was like um did you
in the trunk and i was like no never like i literally never how dare you and he goes okay
and he just took the keys and he drove away no way and i never saw him again i never got a bill
for the damage to the car nothing truly oh my god just wow and and did you and i still to this day
i don't know what was in the trunk what was in there what was just some cash just loose cash
that'd be nice you can't just junk it might have just been junk in the trunk oh god oh no did you
did you get to use the car enough to go to plenty of audition like did you get use out of the car
before you crashed or got in the accident yeah i did yeah yeah so yeah i had a good couple weeks
so what was so you come to america let's let's margo what was the thing what was the first
american pan am gig is it pan am yeah pan am was it yeah remember that series movie time that was
like it was a tv show about pan am oh that's right it was just a big it was a big deal at the time
good looking show yeah and i was like i'm gonna go to the car and i'm gonna go to the car and i'm
it was it was i think at the time it was the most someone had spent on a pilot before yes they spent
like 10 million dollars on the pilot or something like that doesn't seem like it's that long ago
i know and and that also now seems like a small budget for like a pilot but uh yeah it was a big
deal and i i had a role in that so that was my first job so i was i then moved to new york because
we shot that um in at steiner studios in brooklyn so then i was living in new york for a year
was that and my roommate was christina ritchie and no way no way it was
- Wow.
- Yeah.
- No way.
Australia like never having you know met a single famous person or seen a movie set or whatever to
yeah living in the big and then was this your first time in New York yes oh my god what'd you
think of that I suddenly I I couldn't comprehend how much of a city it was the thing is where I
grew up on the Gold Coast like I mentioned but my family's all from like inland Queensland like
the farms right and so I had grown up thinking I was a city kid and I thought the Gold Coast was
like the big smoke and they'd always call me a city kid because you know I was on the Gold Coast
then I moved to Melbourne for neighbors and I was like whoa okay this is a city I was like oh my god
I can't believe I thought I was a city kid I've never been to a city Melbourne is a city this is
the craziest thing I've ever seen and then I got to New York and I was like okay I don't even know
this is a different level this is a city yeah I loved it I had the best best best time oh my god
so you do so you do panic
and then that that sort of runs its course and then what you're sort of left wondering what's
going to happen now or was it just offers flooding in no it they didn't pick up the back nine uh so
we kind of had an inkling that we weren't going to go to a season two it's my job and uh and then
I started auditioning at that point I auditioned for Richard Curtis's film About Time
which I ended up getting a small role in and uh and then I also like everyone else
uh I auditioned for the Wolf of Wall Street so I sent in a self-tape for that and um I ended up
getting that and uh that was my first American no wait wait so you sent in a self-tape for Wolf
of Wall Street so then how long was that process was that maybe two two or three uh auditions before
you got to Scorsese and Leo no no no I went from the tape to being in the room with Marty and Leo
Christ wow it was it was there was no in between I I don't know how it happened like that
because everyone I knew was sending in a tape like everyone so I never didn't I never thought
Martin Scorsese was going to see the tape I just was hoping that Ellen Lewis the casting director
was going to see the tape and and you know I sent it in I didn't hear back anything until I got the
call saying you're going to read in the room with Marty how long was that how long was that gap from
the time it was quite a while like it was like I can't remember I'd forgotten about it almost yeah
yeah yeah like you know like I don't know maybe five weeks or something I don't know I get the
wild card option because they I think they had a couple of actresses read in the room with Marty
and Leo to do a chemistry read sort of situation I don't know maybe I was like the wild card where
they're like I don't know throw her in I have no idea you get a call from your agent you're like
guess what that tape you sent in you're gonna go meet Martin Scorsese well no they they said
you're gonna go meet with Marty and I didn't know who Marty was I was like and they're like Marty is
what people call Martin Scorsese and I was like whoa
so you're gonna go meet with Marty and Leo and you're gonna read with Leo for Marty I mean yeah
did they make you feel comfortable or were you nervous they did yeah they did and they gave me
the role in the room as well so that's great yeah so the whole thing was wait wait wait walk us through
that is it true that you actually is it true that you improvised a slap on on yes it is true it is
true and thank Christ that worked out um because that could have gone a different way okay walk
in I walk in first I go to Ellen Lewis's office to like have a quick pre-chat with her the great
takes one look at what I'm wearing and she was like no no no no no like she was like you're gonna
go down back downstairs I think I was wearing like you know my like boots and like jeans and
like a yeah I don't know long sleeve shirt or something and she was like absolutely not you're
gonna go downstairs you're gonna walk that way and you're gonna walk into a place called Soho
there's lots of shops and you're gonna find a tight dress and the highest heels
you can find and then you're gonna come back and I was like okay and so I went and did that and I
came back in a new outfit and uh and then I you know went to the to the you know the audition
room thing uh and Marty and Leo were in there and it was quite surreal and we started doing the first
scene and I just you know I'd been on a soap where you have to you do like 60 pages a day and you have
to be word perfect because it's multi-cams they're switching you know they're essentially editing as
you do this and you're like oh my god I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna do this
you know like you are word perfect so I start doing the scene and it was all right and whatever
but Leo was like throwing in ad-libs and and improvising and I'd never ever improvised before
I'd never seen another actor improvise before so I was a bit bit thrown I was like well that's not
in the script wait what's he doing okay and I was like oh my gosh he's like Leo doesn't learn
I was like wow he's improvving okay shit um and and so I thought okay I didn't do very good in
that scene I think because I was like I didn't do very good in that scene I think because I was
playing catch up a little bit and I thought oh god I'm getting thrown out of this room in like
30 seconds like I've got 30 seconds to make an impression because we are like this is not
impressive so far and so I was like okay forget the lines just go off script and just I just
thought I'm just gonna use like every swear word I know and so they were like in action and I just
like started because also Leo can go you know like if you don't get in there he'll just keep
going and like he can do the scene without you sort of thing so it's either like get yourself in
there or he'll just keep going and like he can do the scene without you sort of thing so it's
either like get yourself in there or you're like you know he can do and you're in a Brooklyn accent
for this yeah Brooklyn accent which is actually easier for an Aussie because we don't do you know
we don't hit our R's like that um so yeah and then so I just started like I jumped in quick I was like
and started screaming whatever and so I was like okay great so we're doing this scene and now
there's a bit of energy in the room and it's feeling good and I was like okay great you know
and then there was the last scene third scene to do which ends in a line of now get over here and
kiss me and then it's the end of the scene and so we end up you know I was like oh my god I'm
I think feeling a little buzzed that I did well in the second scene so by I was you know a little
more bolshie in this third scene and we get to the end and it's like okay now get over here and kiss
me and I thought to myself wow I could I could kiss Leonardo DiCaprio right now like that would
be so cool I could tell all my girlfriends back home that that happened that'd be like a life
experience and I was like walking towards him slowly having this thought of like maybe I just
do it like fuck it and then I got close and I was like nah this character wouldn't
do that and I just went whack and slapped him instead and it was like dead silent like you
could hear a pin drop and I was like oh my god what have I just done I'm gonna get arrested I
like that's I think that's you know battery or like assault of some kind like can I be sued
do I go to jail for this and then he and Marty just burst out laughing and that's great that
was amazing they said you've got the job right there and they said do that again let's do the
anyway so we workshopped the scenes for a little bit and then I you know said thank you and I walked
out of the room and I got in the elevator and I like took my heels off and I like did that like
like little silent jig dance to yourself like oh my gosh that was so fun I can't believe that
just happened and just as the elevator doors were about to close Ellen Lewis was like wait come back
into the room for one second I was like oh okay and I walked back in my heels still in my hands
and um and they were standing there like just smiling and I was like what's up and they were
like and Marty just oh he Marty just held out his hand and I was like oh my god I can't believe
he's like this and guys would like to offer you the role and then gave me the biggest hug
and it was just what a dream so incredible and yeah that's amazing did they ever make the movie
yeah did they end up making did they end up making the movie Sean wants to know
yeah they got that one off the ground well now okay so that was that amazing story thank you
for sharing that yeah that was really cool the film is stunning your work in it is stunning um
it it was so well received
did did things I mean a massive change for you in your life um once that comes out um was that
was that a a comfortable thing I mean something you've been working for for a long time this was
a bigger step than you probably imagined happening were you able to kind of like step up to it and
and and and hit it in stride or or was it a bit of an adjustment you know how it goes it's like
you make a movie and then it doesn't come out and you're like oh my god I'm gonna make a movie
and then it doesn't come out for a year so your life kind of goes on for a year and I didn't it
didn't occur to me that I would do you know what I just didn't know I was going to be in the movie
as much as I ended up being in it I thought because oh really the set was so crazy and so
much improvisation and so much like every day it was like we were like writing scenes the night
before like my whole end sequence in that movie we wrote like the night before in a room at like
3 a.m we're like it was meant to be just a scene where my character comes in and says I want a
divorce and she put some papers down that's kind of it and then we ended up kind of being like oh
we need something more and we workshopped this whole thing that whole sequence so by the nature
of the filming process I thought you know there's a lot of experimenting going on a lot of improv
going on like I'm sure most of this isn't going to make the cut so I thought I wonder how much
I'll be in this movie I don't and I didn't see it till the night before the premiere so I had no
idea oh no yeah and then uh so I didn't really prepare for it and I thought oh I'll I'll be like
you know blink and you'll miss me sort of thing like I'll be in and out like I just didn't think
anyone was going to pay attention to me in that movie at all so I wasn't a huge
I wasn't really I wasn't yeah I mean you got Jonah Hill doing like the most incredible stuff
everyone likes the cameos are endless like every day you come into work and people would be like
Matthew McConaughey's the other day or like you know whatever so so yeah it just felt like I was
one one blip amongst a big canvas of of you know chaos and so I I yeah I didn't really brace myself
for how how things would change after that and I'd already done a bunch of jobs in between sure
you know because I had a year so so yeah I don't know life yeah life got weird pretty quickly yeah
- And then you go and you see it and you're like, wow.
I mean. Yeah, well, no, really, I was thinking,
I was like, oh, shit, my family is about to see this.
Oh, no.
I organized a friends and family screening
and I, like, sat down and the credit started
and I suddenly was like, oh, my God, I'm, like, naked
and I'm fully naked and they're all about to see it.
And, I mean, there's scenes where we're, like,
having sex on a bed of cash.
Like, my brother is right next to me.
Like, oh, no.
I was like, this is going to be the most uncomfortable thing ever.
I never forget at the end of that screening,
I think my family were all a little bit stunned
and, like, didn't know what to say
but felt like they should say congrats or something.
And my older brother, he was quite a blokey bloke,
you know, quite an Aussie bloke.
He was just like, uh, uh, like, couldn't find the words.
And I was like, you know what, we don't have to talk for a while.
And he goes, great, and just, like,
kind of gave me a hit on the head.
And then walked out and we didn't talk for, like, months after that.
And then when we did, we never mentioned it again.
We were like, let's never talk about that.
Oh, my God.
All right, how soon after that did you get pulled into the DC universe
with Harley Quinn?
Gosh, that must have been. Oh, my gosh, that's right, Harley Quinn.
Okay, so, Wolf of Wall Street, 2012.
Okay, you did the movie before that.
You did the movie with, what's that great one you did with Will Smith?
Focus.
Oh, I love that movie.
Yeah, it's so fun, isn't it?
It's a great movie.
You're so good.
You're so good in that movie.
Oh, thank you.
That was so fun.
Yeah, it must have been right after. It must have been after Focus,
because Will and I had already done that movie,
and then we worked together again in the first Suicide Squad film.
And then where was I, Tonya in all this?
I, Tonya was after that.
After Harley Quinn?
2017 is when I, Tonya, either we filmed it or it came out in 2017.
I think it came out in 2017 and we. Yeah, that movie is so great.
Your performances, I mean, everybody,
you're probably so sick of talking about the one scene
where they just hold on you in the mirror.
No, I loved. Because, again, that was like an in-the-moment thing
where, I don't know, we were set up and. Craig Gillespie, right?
Yeah, Craig, who's the best, also an Aussie.
But, yeah, I was kind of like,
I was like, let me try something for a second.
It might be lame, but let me try it.
Oh, my God, it was so powerful.
That was incredible.
And then afterwards, and I was like,
was that too weird?
And he was like, kind of like really still,
and he's never still.
He's like, he is fast.
Like, you think, I thought shooting neighbors,
but he is fast.
Anyways.
And he was like very still,
and he was like, that was something.
And I was like, okay, cool.
Do you want me to do. And he's like, don't do anything else.
Let's move on.
And I was like. Oh, wow.
What a great feeling.
That's the best.
That's the best feeling.
That's the best.
You know, that feeling where you're like,
ooh, something electric just happened.
Something, I don't know, maybe it's nothing,
but maybe it ends up being a thing
that cool guys bring up on a podcast years from now.
So, yeah, I mean, it's stuck with me.
Still waiting for those cool guys, I guess.
Yeah, where are they?
When do they join me?
And we will be right back.
And back to the show.
At what point did you start thinking,
God, I would love to parlay some of this,
you know, great access and position in the community
into producing as well?
Because you're such an accomplished producer.
Your company, Lucky Chat.
Well, I told you it was the first thing,
that we produced, that came,
well, it was actually the second movie we produced,
but the first one that came out.
So it was kind of kicked things off really nicely.
I start, we started talking about the production company in 2013.
So the year after Waffle Ball Street.
Okay.
So after Waffle Ball Street, before it had come out,
I went off to Belgium to shoot this movie called Suite Francaise,
which I've actually never seen.
And I met my two producer partners,
one of whom I'm now married to.
So Josie and Tom were second and third AD on that job.
And we all became friends on that job.
So yeah, Waffle Ball Street wasn't out yet.
So that must have been 20, anyways, whatever, very early on.
And that's when we talked about starting a production company.
And we started the company the following year.
And yeah, so it's, yeah, we've had it for like 11 years now.
I love that you work with your husband.
I just think that's great.
My wife and I are working together a bit now.
And it's just, it's just so, I just love it.
Oh, you love it.
Okay, sorry.
I didn't know which way you were going to go with that.
And the look on your face.
You got kind of lost a little.
Now, I'd love to get my spouse to play golf too.
You're Tom, Tom can swing a golf club.
He has tried to make me play golf so many times.
No, don't bother.
I'm going to play with him.
Oh, please, please.
He and I are going to become big golf buddies.
Willie, he's coming on up.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, oh, good.
Tom on the board.
Are you all golfers together?
Are you all going to be golfing together?
Yeah, yeah, we play at the, yeah.
This is adorable.
I love it.
He, yeah, I mean, he's obsessed with golf.
Like, I feel like.
I feel like every dude I know turned 30
and suddenly overnight was obsessed with golf.
Like, I was like, I've never heard
any of you talk about golf.
It's a wonderfully difficult thing.
Yeah.
And they all seem to hate it and themselves so much
but want to do it all the time.
It's such a weird.
It seems to be a very toxic relationship.
It is.
It is a love-hate thing.
It is, yeah.
It's just an incredibly challenging thing
that is hard to ignore.
Yeah.
It perplexes me.
It really does.
It really perplexes me.
And I'm also like, you can love this thing without
me.
Like, go, this can be a thing that I don't need
to play golf.
I'm going to set you up with my wife.
It seems nice, though.
That is so, yeah, yeah.
Amanda needs to hear that.
Let's clip that for Amanda.
I'm speaking of.
Bennett, will you clip that for Amanda?
Thank you.
Margo, speaking of golf, I just had lunch two weeks
ago, three weeks ago, on a golf course with a non-Christ.
Oh, no way.
Yeah, who is.
The real-life CEO of Mattel.
And we were talking about you, and we were talking
about Barbie, of course.
And I'm like, how did that come?
And he's like, he told me, because he's such a great
guy, he's like, this is the pitch.
Margo, Robbie, Barbie.
That was the pitch.
What's that got to do with golf?
Really?
No, because we were having lunch on the golf course.
What golf course?
Will, which golf course was I at?
Do you remember that?
When you called me, I was like.
Hillcrest.
I was about to say, do you want me to start
rattling them off?
I hate that I know them all, but.
Because that's where he wanted to have.
Lunch.
Jason, why are you getting bogged down in the details?
I need to understand, how does Sean Hayes end up
at Hillcrest?
Oh, I got to pass.
What is with the look on your face?
Why are you so mad at him?
Who has lunch at Hillcrest, unless you're making
the time or what?
Are you not allowed at Hillcrest?
No, a friend of ours set us up as just to have lunch.
You guys would have a good time, so we had a good
time, and I talked to him, and he's, look at his face.
Oh, yeah, people can only hear this.
You can't see Jason's face right now.
It is so bewildering.
And by the way, it's beautiful.
It's gorgeous there.
Yeah, it's hard to get out there.
And you just have your sandwich out there, I guess.
He's so mad.
Anyway, Inan spoke very highly of you.
He's such a good guy.
And when he told me, the pitch was just you and Barbie.
That's where it started.
And then everything else just kind of snowballed
from there, which is incredible.
So we're going to fly over Quentin Tarantino
and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and we're going
to go right to Barbie.
No, right to Barbie.
No, wait.
We don't have to talk about Barbie.
I just thought, what a coincidence you're here,
and I had lunch.
I had lunch with Inan.
No, he made the golf match, and that's fair enough.
That's a very good, that's very.
We will allow.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
What a film.
What a film.
It's a great film, isn't it?
What a film.
Now, is being on a set with Quentin as exciting
as it seems?
Yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
It is everything.
I'm a huge Tarantino fan, and it is, so I've read,
like, you know, all the folklore around making
a movie with Quentin.
Like, he doesn't allow phones on set, and da-da-da-da-da.
Right.
It's all true, and it's everything
you'd want it to be, and more.
It was just the best.
It was the best.
Awesome, awesome, awesome film.
I so love that.
I still can't believe.
You're like, remember when that, I think,
was it Cannes where it first was shown?
Yeah.
And he made some declaration to the press
in, like, a really cool way saying,
listen, I know some directors say, you know,
please watch the spoilers when you write
these reviews and everything, but he, like,
made this, like, real, like, but I'm serious.
Please try not to reveal.
Reveal the ending to everyone, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I remember reading that and going, okay,
this is never going to last.
Somebody is going to, but I remember that I made it
to watching the movie, which was months later,
without ever hearing what the ending was about,
and was so excited by the reveal of what that ending was
and fucking loved the way that thing all wraps up.
I just, what a film.
I know.
Isn't that amazing that no one spoiled that?
Yeah, I couldn't do this.
That was, like, a separate part of the script
that only. Only a few of us were allowed to even have.
And so, like, the crew didn't have. Like, it was kept so under lock and key
because you really wanted to preserve that.
And it's so impactful when you get to the end of the movie
and you're like, holy shit, Sharon's alive.
Wait, this means Sharon Tate lives.
Like, this is such a great alternate universe.
But I, you know, knowing how secret he wanted everything to be,
I never breathed a word of how it ended.
And at Cannes, I brought my mum to watch the movie
and I asked her afterwards, you know, we're all clapping
and I was like,
what did you think?
And she goes, honestly, I have been dreading watching this movie
because I did not want to see my daughter be killed in that way.
Like, and I know Tarantino movies are violent.
And, like, she's like, I know.
And I didn't want to, you know, burst your bubble
because you're so excited about this.
But, like, I've been dreading it.
And she's like, I didn't know.
Anyway, so Quentin was looking at me.
He's like, did your mum like the movie?
And I was like, oh, she was upset
because she thought she was about to see me die.
And he's like, you didn't tell your mum you don't die?
And I was like, no, you told me.
He told me not to tell anyone the ending of this movie.
I didn't tell anyone.
He was like,
tell your mom i didn't tell my husband i didn't tell my mom i didn't tell anyone how this movie
ended so yeah we were all in on keeping it keeping it secret all right so all right so barbie the
the behemoth of barbie it comes into your world um in in a in sort of a typical way like kind of
through the regular sort of channels or is it something that you pursued i mean we know we
pursued it like as as the company as lucky chap we went after it we we knew that the uh agreement
over you know it was set up already over at sony there had been versions of it etc etc and then
their time was kind of deadline hollywood the way he knows the deal of hey amy schumer you know
for a while he knows he knows the deal bunch of money against it and then
exactly and but there was there was you know like the they had to re kind of re-up the deal sort of
thing and so that was the opportunity to
get in there and say can we can we take it and uh so we kind of made our pitch to enon sean's friend
um so we made it the pitch to him we're like let lucky chap uh produce this let us have this we'll
set it up at warner brothers there's no chain of titles issue with whatever they've previously
developed this is before greta and and noah yeah before greta and noah so it was just just us so
then your take then was you're sorry to interrupt but your take was because the the reason it's sort
of it is relevant and interesting is that it's a movie that's a movie that's a movie that's a movie
that it had this life beforehand
was that obviously the version at Sony with Amy
would be wildly different than what you guys were doing.
Because think about it, like, that's what the Mattel,
you know, they've got all this great, you know, IP.
They're just like games or in this, you know, action figure.
And it's like, how do you come up with a movie about that?
You have to have a take.
Like, what's the angle going to be?
What's it going to be about?
And with Barbie, it's so loaded to like,
you can have a cultural reference to it,
some sort of societal comment, all this stuff.
So what was your take?
So this is before you had the writer and the director.
Did you have a clear idea about what you wanted to say with this?
And then that informed where you looked for a writer and a director?
To be honest, the first hurdle was getting them to let us have it.
Right.
And so really those first conversations were about
making sure Enon and Mattel knew that we would
protect the brand.
And take care of it, but also do something meaningful with it.
And we were quite honest in that first meeting of like,
if we're doing a Barbie movie, we're going to be saying something.
And it has to be culturally relevant.
And this has to be elevated and cinematic and all the things.
But do understand, like, we're going to be making comments
with the movie sort of thing.
So obviously we'll do that with someone who's very smart.
Like, I did pitch Greta in the meeting.
I was like, you know, like a Greta Gerwig.
Yeah, so smart.
Who I had spoken to previously about other films and stuff.
And she, I think at the time, was filming Little Women,
but she had done Lady Bird.
Anyways.
And so, yeah.
So first, step one really was just like letting them know
that we understood how important this property is to them,
that we would, you know, be good partners to them.
And then also like, yeah, then it was setting up the studio.
And then it was going after Greta and being like,
do you want to do a Barbie movie?
And then it was about what her take.
It was never me being like, I have a take.
Do you want to do this?
It was like, I trust you to have something.
I bet you have something to say.
What would you want to say with a Barbie movie with me?
And then it kind of went from there.
And her and Noah, their writing process is fascinating,
but they don't really like plot out.
They don't outline a whole thing and then send in an outline.
You know what you're going to get.
They don't really know how it's going to end.
They write as they go.
They write themselves out of corners.
So getting the studio and material,
to sign off on the movie and get them paid to commence,
because then it was COVID too.
And I was like, they need to be writing right now.
And they were like, well, what's the movie?
Without giving a full beginning, middle and end.
Yeah.
And everyone's feeling very protective over this thing
and want to know what it is and what they're paying for
and all that kind of stuff.
Yeah, it was kind of, yeah,
I think it was probably the best bit of producing we ever did
was getting that whole, all those deals, treatment deals,
you know, no approval over the script,
but approval over the treatment,
like all this kind of stuff so that they-
You got to do, you got to convince a lot of people
that sort of like, just trust us, just trust us.
It was completely just trust us and also leave them alone.
Like you cannot, they're not going to get on the phone with you
and tell that they're not going to pitch you.
Like we have to leave them alone.
That's their process.
It says a lot about Mattel and Warner Brothers
for taking that risk and like, that's a lot of courage.
For sure.
It's so great that it worked out so well for them.
Yeah.
I mean, huge.
I mean, I asked the dumb questions
if you haven't picked up on that yet.
So will there be a sequel?
Well, they could.
There could be.
Because I mean, why wouldn't there be?
But Greta's been, I mean, I'm open.
There's no plans at the moment, but I'm open to it.
I'm open to anything with Greta, to be honest,
but she's been doing Narnia for ages.
Oh, wow.
I can't wait for that.
Cool it.
Yeah, I think she's been like-
I love those books.
Really intensely into it.
Do you love, I love them too.
I love them.
Have you ever read a book series called The Magicians?
It's like this like grown up dark Narnia version of Narnia.
No, but I will.
It's so good.
Yeah.
No, tell Sean what channel it's on
and he'll watch it for you.
Books, they're books.
Wait, The Magicians.
Oh, wow.
Is it the same tone as the Narnia books?
Well, it just, it's like, I love fantasy books.
I read a lot of fantasy and it's a really good,
oh, good.
Well, then check them out.
I mean, it's just, but it's got,
it's very much seeped in like Narnia lore,
which I, which I love.
Why don't you, why doesn't your production company
option those books?
Well, actually, if I'm going to option anything,
I read a lot of, like I said,
a lot of fantasy books.
I read a lot of fantasy,
but I read a lot of romantasy books as well.
So, I think since our brand is very like female focused,
there's some other romantasy books
that I'd rather go after.
Well, that's getting us right to Wuthering Heights.
Yeah.
Here we go.
With the divine Jacob Elordi.
What a nice guy.
I just met him the other day.
What a really, really nice kid.
And by the way, sidebar,
we just had Charlie XCX on
and she did the music for it.
She did a whole album.
She did an entire album.
Yeah.
Her whole album is called Wuthering Heights.
For Wuthering Heights.
Yeah.
And another collaboration with you and Emerald Fennell.
Yes.
Third film together.
So, we produced Promising Young Woman,
then Salt Burn,
and now this is her third film
and our third film together.
She's only been in the States for 16 years.
I know.
Look at all of this.
That's amazing.
It's so great.
It is great.
So, Wuthering Heights,
you're a big softie with the romance stuff.
Was this, did this come out?
It's the ultimate romance.
It's the ultimate, yeah.
It's much like your relationship with golf.
It's like, you just can't,
you can't help it
even though it's destroying you on some level.
Thank you for putting it in a context
that we can understand.
Thank you.
I'm currently in a divorce with golf right now.
I'm working.
I'm on a break.
I'm dedicated to my life right now.
But, okay, so now you've seen the film.
Many times, yes.
Do you cry every time?
Every time.
Oh, my God.
I've never watched it and not cried.
I love you.
That's so great.
And I, like, it's, yeah, it's so good.
It's like, I mean, it's just,
I'm so excited that everyone's about to see it
because it's incredible.
It's coming out on Valentine's Day, right?
Perfect Valentine's, Valentine's plan.
Yeah, if you don't have plans.
Friday, February 13th.
It did come out three days ago.
Yeah, February.
Because it's February 16th today, you guys.
It's out now.
It's February 16th today?
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, guys, if you haven't seen it yet,
I apologize.
Okay, so does that mean, is it the Monday?
Is it the public holiday today?
Okay, you've got time.
Go to the movies right now.
As soon as I slap this laptop down, I'm going.
I'm going to bring the tissues.
Yes, President's Day weekend.
It's President's Day.
It's Valentine's.
It's a big weekend.
Go out and see it today.
Today, go see it.
It's just an incredible film.
Like, it really, really is.
And it's so moving and evocative and provocative at times,
but it's, I don't know.
I really think it's going to make people feel.
And then, and what about, did you,
because it's, chemistry with an actor is so vital,
especially, I would imagine,
if you're doing some sort of a romantic film with someone.
Did you, did you do some research about,
like, did you call around with people that,
or did you know Jacob from Saltburn already?
So, yeah, I knew him in a kind of like a producer-actor dynamic.
I knew him from Saltburn and always thought he was so lovely and so talented.
I mean, I was the very first, when I read Saltburn,
it's the first thing I said, I was like,
Jacob Elordi should play Felix.
I was such a fan of his work from Euphoria back then.
So then you knew you two would get along and.
Well, we're also from, he's from Brisbane and I'm from the Gold Coast.
So we're from like an hour away from each other.
We're both Queenslanders.
So I, I don't know.
I had a feeling.
I was like, we're both Queenslanders.
We'll be best mates.
It'll be great.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He's also, he's just so good.
And, and.
Yeah.
I think what really helps is we approach our work in this,
in a very similar way.
And I think that really helped.
And I think when it comes to chemistry.
And how is that?
Well, we're both, we're both very, very like, we take it very seriously.
We do a lot of prep.
We do a lot of work, you know, like we're both on set with like notebooks
and writing and notes and, you know, like we're, you know.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
And we were kind of, to be honest,
I think we were kind of set up for success because the script was so,
so good.
I mean, and Emerald's an Oscar winning screenplay writer.
The script was unbelievable.
We had, you know, then the source material has been,
you know adored for almost 200 years then you've got emerald's take of it and her writing's
incredible and she's plucking out lines and stuff in the book too and then you've got you know some
of the industry's best designers cinematographers production designers costume design all that kind
of stuff you know we we had all the elements where'd you shoot it um we shot in london and
then on the on the moors in yorkshire so series were up there and so yeah i mean we kind of had
it all there and and it all came together and we get along and it was yeah it was just great
it was so great oh i can't wait i know do that together i mean you're you're you're so i'm so
taken with you you seem so charming and warm as i said at the beginning and grounding you're just
such a pleasure you're just a farm girl yeah is it what what knocks you off what knocks you off
balance where when are you not charming when are you
like what what what what would tom tell us is really your kryptonite yeah when i'm hungry
oh yeah you don't you i'm not charming when i'm hungry and i'm almost always hungry to be honest
i get angry yeah yeah he's he calls me dragoon sometimes he's like he knows like he's like i
need to feed the dragon like does he cook for you yeah he's an amazing cook is he such yeah he could
be a chef he's so good really really i want to know how to cook god damn it he'll you guys will
be golf besties you can oh don't don't even get me you think
you should see what he does with the big green egg he's oh my god i'll steal it's his it's his
other mistress just take him yeah take him take him he'll love it what's your what's your what's
your go-to what's your go-to meal if you're like honey i'm really hungry i fixed my favorite thing
you know what it is what is to be honest he can he can cook a steak better than any restaurant can
like his like it's it's almost a nice rub on there steak oh he i don't know what he does but
it's magic he does that in the green egg he oh he he'll do it oh no he'll do it in the green egg
i think he does a bit of a oven slash reverse sear in a skillet pan situation for his steaks but
he can do it on the green egg as well somebody made me a hamburger once and put an egg on it
with blue cheese i was like no thanks no that's cool save it for the book um
margo uh yeah this is margo's time sean um thank you so much for joining us today
i know you've got a lot of press in front of you i appreciate all the time
yeah um and uh best of luck luck with the film we're gonna watch it uh this afternoon we're all
going together are you actually yeah we're gonna go to century city this afternoon oh yeah oh yes
of course it's the 16th day yes go watch it go watch it together you're our core demographic
so enjoy tell me yeah yeah yeah good um so great meeting you thank you for doing no thank you good
luck with the with the play as well sean oh thank you honey thank you so much so sweet of you all
right well hopefully we'll see you soon see you soon thanks bye bye
oh i mean i need a shower all the negativity and that's just the
she is something else man she's a uh i mean by the career i mean bam bam bam movie big movie
big movie big movie big movie i mean she's and she just got here like five minutes ago and when
she said she was on pan m i felt like that was like five years ago it was like 15 years ago
but if you just look at like she just
so hit the ground running coming here you know what i mean and just and just doing
quality things after quality things always really good in everything she does and i think the thing
what's most what's almost impossible to get my head around is sean you parking at hillcrest and
then you go over to the patio to have lunch like what are you doing outdoors what is going on how
did you get in there you got there it's just for jason we'll take this to the for the rest of his
but wait wait jason is hillcrest country club i can play there but as a guest okay so why is it hard
to get in i'm not i'm not i'm not like i can't call in and have a fucking lunch date there i'm not a
member so you have to be a member to have lunch there so mad yeah it was the mattel guy a member
there his name is enon um no a friend of ours was a mutual friend of ours two fucking non-members
having a business meeting unbelievable all right getting back into it this this woman um
an incredible actor incredible producer uh i think we'll just be at the tip top of our profession for
a very very long time right talented beautiful smart all those things oh you have to be one
yeah i do just really quick out of all the movies yeah that i would have ever guessed made would make
out of all of her all of her movies in her on her resume rolling all of her movies on her resume
that would have made over a billion dollars i would have never guessed it would have been
bar by bar by i can't no no here's let me explain to you what the buy at least at least go by tanya
oh shit that's better i just don't think you can you can't make up a word for it to fit the
you have to actually find a legitimate bye bye bye
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Sean and the group share humorous anecdotes about their lives, routines, and personal quirks, highlighting their camaraderie and resilience.
Sean is praised for his dedication, professionalism, and quiet work ethic, especially in theater rehearsals and behind-the-scenes roles.
A new film project, *Behemoth*, is being developed with Pedro Pascal, Olivia Wilde, and directed by Tony Gilroy—Sean is involved in a non-disclosed role.
The group celebrates Sean’s striking new look, noting its lasting impact and the personal connection to his character development.
Margot Robbie joins the conversation, sharing her journey from Australia to Hollywood, her early passion for films, and her experience on *The Wolf of Wall Street* with Martin Scorsese and Leonardo DiCaprio.
A pivotal moment in Margot’s career involved improvising a slap at Leo DiCaprio during a scene, which led to her being offered the role and later becoming a successful producer.
Margot runs a production company with her husband, Lucky Chat, which began after filming *The Wolf of Wall Street* and has grown into a major creative venture.
The episode blends humor, behind-the-scenes storytelling, and heartfelt reflections on success, identity, and the unexpected paths of artistic careers.
Summary:
The episode features a lively, conversational segment centered around Sean, a dedicated actor known for his quiet professionalism and deep involvement in theater. The group shares humorous stories about his life, including setting the thermostat to air conditioning in winter and his commitment to rehearsals despite challenges like snowstorms. They also celebrate his new look and role in the upcoming film *Behemoth*, directed by Tony Gilroy and starring Pedro Pascal and Olivia Wilde.
The narrative expands to include Margot Robbie, who recounts her journey from Australia to Hollywood, her early obsession with films, and her breakthrough role in *The Wolf of Wall Street*—where she improvised a memorable slap at Leonardo DiCaprio, leading to a pivotal career moment. Margot shares how she transitioned into producing, co-founding the company Lucky Chat with her husband. The conversation is enriched by nostalgic anecdotes about acting, improvisation, and personal growth, blending humor with heartfelt insights about passion, resilience, and unexpected success.
The episode ultimately reflects on how creative paths often unfold through chance, perseverance, and genuine connection—highlighting the shared journey of actors and artists navigating fame, identity, and the joy of creating.
FAQs
Because everyone in his building in New York has heating on at night, so he turns on the air conditioning to stay comfortable while sleeping.
The movie is called 'Behemoth,' directed by Tony Gilroy, and Sean is part of the cast.
He says he's proud of the new look, and that he plans to keep it, as he believes it was a meaningful change made by someone with taste in makeup.
He cut it after the film because his wife, Amanda, said it looked like having sex with a stranger, which made him laugh and prompted the change.
He finds it strange and intense, especially since it's just him performing with a director and no intermission, but he enjoys the creative energy and spontaneity.
Sean improvised a slap on DiCaprio during a scene, which caused a moment of silence, and the two burst out laughing — leading to him being offered the role.
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