Man On The Lose w. Sami Sage & Annie Andrews

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Sammy, what is your favorite unconventional way to cool off when it's so hot that you want to take your skin off? I don't know how unconventional this is because my dogs do it, but like standing over the air vent or like on a cold slab of stone If you can find one The Monroe if you will. Yeah, yeah, exactly The I don't know how unconventional that is how unconventional we talk it. I mean I do like ice in the bra Like ice like something right here for some reason my legs sternum area If I just cool that off the rest of my body is like, oh, we're all cool now like it's I trick myself I think that makes sense because I'm pretty sure I'm no scientist no doctor Fauci But I'm pretty sure there's some certain pressure points that if you hit them it like makes a big difference like I hear This area On your wrist. Sorry if we're only listening like the inside of your wrists is very Important like if you put ice there that actually helps a lot too. Mm-hmm. Okay RFK Jr I mean, I'm not I'm not saying it's gonna cure cans It may help you cool off Momentarily. All right today. We will be digging into the Trump administration's move to terminate millions of dollars in federal grants for Teen pregnancy prevention and what that says about the administration's vision for women Then we deep dive into Emily Wilson's scathing review of the Odyssey plus Dr. Annie Andrews Democratic candidate for U.S Senate in self-care align us stops by to discuss her race and how the death of Lindsey Graham is shaking things up And as always we end with Sandy Petty You're listening to hysteria the podcast that begrudgingly admits uh that Donald Trump was fucking hilarious at Lindsey Graham's funeral. He was fucking hilarious, Sammy Oh, can we watch can we watch can we watch the clip the clip that really Put me headed down a rabbit hole and then being like okay, he's fucking funny. Let's watch this clip our nation needs more men And women like that great Person sitting laying Wherever he may be I think I know where he is and I think he's up there. I think he's watching us. I'm pretty sure of it Oh my god Okay, it's like when he looked at the eclipse. Yeah sitting laying You could say that it's that great person It's giving like these amazing females. Uh-huh. Yeah, it's it's giving that that episode of 30 rock where they try to pre-fab a song To help the people the thing that happened happened to it's like he just had a like a chat gpt Road him just a general obituary and he just went with it or a general like honorific speech And he just went with it but you had something that you highlighted too from the funeral that was equally if not more funny Oh, it's when he like he's like Lindsey Graham was loved by Republicans and Democrats alike Actually, maybe not I'm gonna go off script for a second here and uh That he kind of goes into like Lynn no one loved to war more than Lindsey. He was incredibly hawkish He and it was just very um it was very honest. It was fast. I would say in terms of Like if this were in a funeral or maybe because it's Lindsey Graham's funeral The whole thing just felt so deeply unserious, but Lindsey Graham was an unserious man Lindsey Graham was a bad person and now he's dead um and then also as as Donald Trump walked past his coffin He gave it a little double tap He gave it a little tap. So funny like they're there like but it was also like he was the the coach of a of a team that had just lost in the star player Was like crying on the sidelines. It's like it's all right, but get up got to get get up and go for the next one. It was so Funny and then I don't know if you saw this clip, but there was another clip of him Attempting to put a tic-tac into his own mouth and failing Look the motor skills are not they're falling apart. They're not there. They're not there um, but it was Funeral wise it was pretty funny What I what I do think is kind of very telling about all of this is that as far as people go who Trump associates with Lindsey Graham I feel he had he hasn't had as much affection for anyone Since Jeffrey Epstein as he did for Lindsey Graham like I think he genuinely enjoyed being around Lindsey Graham and Like just the way he was talking about him was when he first like died He was like, you know, oh, it's just terrible But in a way that like he wouldn't even speak about his sons that nicely And the bar is so low, but at the same time like I just feel that there was a real affection between these two men And yet this is how he still treats his funeral. Yes, absolutely I think Lindsey as we said in our this fucking guy video about Lindsey Graham, which Thankfully came out before he died But the Lindsey Graham video he has like real like get him boss energy like he's not comfortable ever be He could never have been the president because he can't really be a leader He has to like glom on to a more powerful man and attach himself to that man's butt and then be like yeah, boss Yeah, yeah, get him and for a while it was John McCain and now it was Donald Trump and Donald Trump really loves that energy Someone who's just attached to his butt being like yeah, yeah, boss. Yeah, everything's you're doing great. You're doing great So I mean it was perfect. It was perfect. It was it was a small man. He is a small man But yeah, it was it was a fitting funeral and a fitting tribute to a person who treated war like a video game. He was excited about buying So yeah, yeah, anyway, all right more about the Trump administration the Trump administration is You know kind of easy to lose this in the sauce because we've got a never-ending war going on and there's no clear path to it Ending in the near future. We've we've got a bunch of chaos at home. We've got inflation. We've got on affordability We've got a president who doesn't seem to have any capacity to handle any problems that Americans actually care about But in the background the Trump administration is quietly working to roll back the sexual revolution And I know that sounds dramatic But here's a great example of how they're doing it quietly in the background Okay, the Trump administration has quietly terminated millions of federal grants for teen pregnancy prevention programs Leaving only a handful active now here's something interesting about the birth rate Which I think you and I have discussed Sammy the birth rate is going down in the U.S Mostly because teenagers aren't getting pregnant anymore It's not that tragedy. It's not like people are women in their 40s are having babies way more than they ever have in the past Women in their 30s pretty steady women in their 20s. It's going down a bit But the teen pregnancy rate has really bottomed out and that is kind of the driver of why the birth rate is decreasing That's actually probably a good thing that the teens are less pregnant than ever You know But the right and well I just have a question before we start what kind of Sex ed did you receive in like middle school in high school? Okay, well I was raised Catholic by parents who were mortified by sex And so they never ever yeah, they never ever talked to me about it I also but I wasn't encyclopedia kid So I remember like being like I've got to figure out what this is because the kids at school are talking about it So I like read about it in the Encyclopedia um and then in eighth And then also like I went to ccd. I like went to to mass every week. I was like a you know Sunday school cat Catholic, you know? And so they didn't really talk about it until we got to be like in middle schools and middle school high school, they would give like presentations about sexual health that were very fear based. And then in eighth grade, I had like a class that was pretty straightforward and explanatory. How about you, Sammy? We had a condom bowl in high school and uh where you could just take them if you needed from the nurse's office. Did you ever take them and like make balloon animals? No, I didn't go near the condom bowl because I was not having sex. But if I was, if I were, I would have probably done so. But I think that my point is that that speaks to like the very progressive education that we received. And yeah, it was, we had like sex ed classes, I think starting in seventh grade. And overall it was, I would say like a pretty like liberal school. We had like I had the first openly gay people I knew were my teachers actually. So it was yeah. I had like a second cousin who was openly gay. And I, it was just kind of treated as just like he moved away from rural Wisconsin and moved to San Francisco and was like, yeah, fuck the, yeah, I can't deal. But he was like out in gay and living in San Francisco like before it was something that was like accepted by mainstream society. And he was just sort of like, I don't know. My family's like pretty Midwestern where it's like don't ask, don't tell. Like not like it's just sort of like, yeah, as long as you're not hurting anybody, I don't really care what you're doing. You know, just like don't be annoying. And it was kind of, I think that's a great attitude. Yeah, it was, it was, but yeah, it was, my sex ed was pretty much brought to you by the world book and it's like Lapedia and my seventh and eighth grade like family and consumer sciences education teacher Mrs. Schmitt. And then like a very scary film strip that we watched in CCD. But you know, I didn't have sex in high school either. You know, I really didn't, I felt like I knew enough. I'd seen enough. I was like, you know what, not for me at this juncture. And I felt when it was time for me to, when I did go to college and when I did become sexually active, I felt like I knew what was going on. There wasn't any like scares or like, what is the, you know, I felt like prepared, you know, right? Well, that I feel like I was a lot of your own initiative. But really the question is like, I think whatever activity anyone's doing in high school, I do think that the components of like a healthy or as close as you can get out from, you can't control for what someone's parents do, but like in the education space, I think awareness of the risks and awareness of how to mitigate them, just from like an honest scientific standpoint, is the most and obviously of consent is I think like the minimum you should be going into adulthood with. And I think that that is what a lot of these policies sort of aim to obfuscate to young people so that you'll only get it if you happen to be in a school and or your parents will teach you that. So it's, I don't know, it's pretty harmful, I think, overall that there's not this like wide awareness. Yeah. But I guess if you want more babies. Yeah, I mean, you know, beyond just pregnancy, I think being armed with knowledge about what's going on with yourself anatomically, what's going on with people that you're sexually attracted to anatomically. And what is consent and what is a normal thing to happen after you have sex and what is not normal and what to look for. And those things prevent like health problems and abuse. Like it is useful for somebody to know like, oh, okay, if you have sex and then it hurts really, really bad, it's excruciating, that's not like normal. Like you need to, that's, you should go to the doctor, you shouldn't have to live like that. You know, if you have sex and then afterwards, it burns when you pee, like you probably should get checked out so that you can knock it out and like carry on with your life instead of dealing with some longstanding effects of an infection that's gone unchecked. So I think it's, it's not just about like having babies or not having babies, it's just about like moving through the world as an organism in a way that isn't terrible and scary and full of fear and pain. Right. Like it should be I think addressed more scientifically and then also like on the consent and emotional side, it's own thing. But I actually think that what we're saying is very advanced for what like is being considered in a lot of, a lot of places. Yeah. I mean, there are some programs that we're trying to do that, that we're trying to give kids like straightforward information about here's what sex is, here's what your body does, here's what happens. One of those organizations was Elkira Line and Nonprofit called Fact Forward. The New York Times had a piece on that organization. Fact Forward provides health and sex education classes. The organization found out last week by the assistant secretary for health that their $1.6 million grant was cancelled because they're work no longer aligned with the administration's priorities. Okay. The department accuses them of producing, quote, "content that encourages normalizes or promotes sexual activity for minors," which is like, I'm just going to pause. That's kind of a wild thing to fingerwag by an administration headed by a man who used to be best friends with a dead financier known for promoting sexual activity among minors. But I digress. I feel like the-- Yeah. His own accusations. I feel like, you know, the Trump administration, if they're trying to get away from the Epstein thing, they need to like get away from talking about minors and sex period. Just leave that alone, right? Your girl bossing too close to the sun. Well, the claim was vehemently denied by the organization. In fact, the federal grant stipulated that the nonprofit must use courses from a federally approved list the government deemed to be effective and age-appropriate. The only people allowed to teach teens about sex are creepy, middle-aged men, I guess, right? Yeah. I would love to see what they deemed to be effective and age-appropriate. Yeah. Okay. So in Trump's first term, the administration targeted an Obama-era $100 million dollar government initiative focused on funding evidence-based programs like we were discussing designed to curb teen pregnancy. Well, the courts did stop that campaign in 2018. The administration is now taking steps to push on the grants again. So what's going on now is a continuation of that gross legacy, but it's also taking things a step further. According to the New York Times, quote, "The new criteria say that grant recipients must teach abstinence as the only means to prevent teen pregnancy. Courses must stress the importance of marriage and procreation and instruct young people how to safeguard their fertility. They make scant reference to preventing sexually transmitted infections and virtually none to lesbian, gay and transgender sexuality." So that's what's going on. And also worth noting that Trump's 2027 budget specifically calls for eliminating teen pregnancies prevention programs because they promote radical leftist ideology. So it's radically left to not get pregnant before you can even consent technically. Well, here, they're giving young women especially so much conflicting information. It's like absolutely do not have sex, do not have sex, do not have sex, but then as soon as you become a age, get married immediately and have sex and be constantly available for your partner. But you don't know how to do it and you don't know anything about it, but you just have to do it over and over and over again and like have a ton of babies. And it just it feels and the church will teach you how. And that's actually you'll get marriage classes and the church will teach you how. Like I think that this is while we're looking at just this grant being pulled, this is part of a long chain of events that they want to happen and just really like a very small corner of their broader picture that they want to, you know, the broader society that they want to create because even their goals are seemingly at odds. They want more people to they want more people to have babies. They don't want people having sex in order to prevent teen pregnancy, but they know that abstinence only doesn't work and that more babies are had, which they also say they want. But I think the part that they don't say is that they are okay with trapping girls and women in relationships where they have no leverage and no financial power. And doing that as young as possible while indoctrinating them and telling them that this is good, you're happy, you're serving God probably is like a huge component of this. And that's actually like the piece that doesn't get said. Yeah. I mean, the they want people to get married before their frontal lobes are fully formed before they can sit down and be like, wait a minute, what does this mean? What are the implications of this? Like having a child is forever. Having a child is more durable than being married to somebody because if you get divorced and you have no kids, like, bye bye. Like that's that's it. That's over. You have a child with somebody, you are connected to that person for the rest of until one or both of you is dead. Like you are connected with them for the rest of your life. Well, in their ideal situation, it's just you and them and the kid and what this actually creates is permission for men to act however they want because you will be stuck there with the kid and told don't divorce, it'll ruin your life and your kids life. And that's why they these communities, these types of communities, not like Donald Trump obviously and you know, people like Pete Hagsetto get away with it are okay, Jr, whatever, but the people who are being affected by these policies most are probably living in communities where they would be. ostracized if they got a divorce no matter how abusive their husband is and so like that's the part that they're not going to codify in their budget, but that's what actually goes on and that's why when you you know when you outlaw abortions and no fault divorce you know you see suicide rates for women or married women go up. So there's all these like factors and the lowest concern on the latter is how a woman feels. It's just I think they're creating a funnel. They're trying to funnel women into being a dependent class and by dependent like dependent not like parasitic I mean dependent like a person who can't leave they physically cannot leave they do not have the economic ability to leave because they've devoted so much of their time to raising these kids. They don't have the educational background because they've been focused their entire lives on getting married and having kids. They don't have any life skills because all they've what they've done is stayed home and taking care of children and granted those are life skills and I believe that like home making is real work and I think that the fact that is it is not viewed as like economic economically important and is not viewed as real work is extremely misogynistic. But I think that this is also trying to put women in a position where like you said Sammy they can't leave they can't leave these men because no matter what the men do and then that creates a sort of environment of entitlement that men will have and and it's offered this is something that is being sold to young men and old men too in a really gross way as a path back to the lives that their fathers and grandfathers were entitled to with no consideration for the happiness or agency of women and it's so disturbing. I wanted to talk about something else Sammy because we have we have a lot to get to today. You noticed an interesting trend when we were talking about like the push for people to get married younger and start having babies. Where are you seeing that? So I'm really seeing it in comparison with people my age so I don't know if you follow like the sort of Gen Z New York City influencer crowd on TikTok on Instagram you know so there's like this sort of crowd are you aware of any of these these characters. Yeah yeah I mean since we discussed I'm like oh yeah that person they're those people that I have I've like developed this impression of like a Gen Z person delivering the news like in the voice of all right besties today we really ran again it's not going great but I tried a little hummus and it was really good then we moved on it's like that you know that voice is that are there those people is that what you're talking about it is that if they would be reporting the news I'm thinking like to remember when the the cut came out with it's good to be a West Village girl yes it's like that it's that um so it's that kind of crowd and I this past summer/year so many of these popular influencers who are between ages like 25 and 29 have gotten married and I think the reason it stuck out to me is because my friends and I think kind of not just even like my own friends but also people who are like millennial influencers all that they wait they slash we all got married like 29 to 34 you know obviously there was COVID that kind of pushed it back but even so it was like a much less much later and I'm just wondering like is that because of the culture is that because it's just very I think 25 to 29 is a really young range she got married in New York City for women who are upwardly mobile and I just think it's very very interesting that while this is all happening and we're sort of having this conservative back this conservative backlash I guess living in the most progressive cities cities in the world you have this group of very influential people who are not like living outwardly a traditional lifestyle but they're getting married really young and my question is like is that being influenced by this broader cultural thing or is this just sort of an incentive are they incentivized to get married because they share and monetize their their life online so if you are you know this it's almost like this sort of reverse incentive to get married. Yeah I think it's a little bit of column A a little bit of column B because I think some people when I see like an influencer who's young getting married or like even somebody who's not an influencer get married. I have like people that I know on that I grew up with or whatever who treats who have like 200 followers which is a totally normal amount of followers for a normal person to have but who somehow like have taken on this influencer cadence like they present their lives as though they are influencers and I sometimes I feel like they people just get married because they're bored and they're like well I want some professional photography done of me and I want to like get a spray tan and I want to wear a white dress and like I guess I've had this boyfriend for a few years so we might as well do it and like I think that some of these people are just like okay well I need more content I'm young and beautiful and I can like wear a beautiful dress and I bet people will help sponsor my wedding and I bet I'll get a bunch more followers but I also think that it's maybe taking off of it because I harp on this but I do think that there are some forces in the in the media especially in social media that are trying to artificially inflate the popularity of getting married young because it's part of a like conservative movement to try to push young women to get married young especially young educated women because and by educated I mean like mostly white women because the people that the Trump administration and project 2025 want to have children and feel like actually deserve to have children/must have children are white educated women the women who like escaped the subservience of their grandmothers they want them back they want them back into the like the clutches of conservatism and domesticity and not have it be their choice have it be like well I guess this is what everybody's doing so I'm going to follow the trend honestly I would be lying if I don't if if I said that that influences in a real thing like I do think that what's normal and common just becomes whether it just sort of makes you think less hard about it or think that something that you might instinctually not want to do is not that big of a deal I mean I don't think there's anything wrong like I don't think getting married young is inherently bad like my brother and his wife have been married since like they were both like 21 and 22 and they got married because he was about to go to law school and it was like all right we've been together for four years we get married now where we get married after law school and we've been together for seven years and we want our life to get started they're still together they're still happy like that is a that is a thing that happens but I don't think that that's the norm even among their friends they were sort of like among the first to get married among my friends from college I think the first to get married got married when we were like 23 and then the last to get married one of in our like group of friends she's engaged in is getting married next summer so she'll be like 41 so it's like you know there's a huge range and I feel like everyone it this is I know a small sample size but I feel like everyone in my group of friends kind of went into it clear-eyed because there's so many different examples of ways that a life can go and they made a choice based on how they fit into what was out there and I think I don't know that things were being pushed on us when we were as like young millennials I don't I never felt like uh oh you better get married you better get married you better get married and I think that now it's out there in a way that it hasn't been out there since like the eighties I agree with that I think okay first of all there is this sort of bias inherently that we're thinking of people getting married because you notice people getting married there's no like big sign I'm not getting married I'm not getting married like every you know so you're thinking about things in terms of things that you see happen so there's that cognitive bias I think that like when okay it's almost like throughout my twenties the pressure to get married younger almost lessened like as I was getting older so it was like when I was 20 I wanted to get married by like 26 by the time I was 26 what was I thinking but that just seemed like a good time that just seems like then that because maybe like our parents our mothers got married around then and that seems like five years after college when you're when you're 21 five years after college feels so long like a while date for two years and then I'll be in each way you don't even just seems like the right amount of time so I don't think that's that crazy but by the time I was like 25 being the idea of being married at 26 even if I were with it was just like oh it did that didn't need to be that soon right and I think that be with like a cultural norm now you're seeing that come that number come down again and I don't know I remember at one point feeling like people who got married at 26 were like child brats I mean I think I don't know if what we're seeing on social media is a reflection of what's actually happening because for the last like I don't know years and years and years the the age at which people get married for the first time on average has been ticking upward and upward and upward and I don't think that influencers might like might influence a few people to think about getting married before they would actually get married, but I don't know if it's going to like reverse a trend because I do think that the the horse has left the barn when it comes to the ways that marriage doesn't serve women in in in American society. And there's actually been some interesting work on this by an economist named Claudia Golden. Claudia Golden did research into women's labor and she found that societies in which men take on more of the labor inside the home lead to higher fertility rates and in societies where men do less fertility rates are lower. So in other words the reason that women don't necessarily want to get married and procreate are because the act of procreation is super risky for a woman like physically risky in terms of like what what your responsibilities will be after the baby is born. What you can just get let a man can just leave you know and you can't really just like people do but you're not that it's not as common like women you can't just like leave your baby you can't just leave the biological impact that it's had so women don't want to take that risk unless they're pretty sure that the guy that they're taking the risk with is not going to leave them holding everything. Right I mean the biological influences undeniable because they're not going to breastfeed you know they're they're not what I think it's pretty instinctual that a woman who's pregnant is at their most vulnerable and men are you know pregnant women are more likely to be murdered by their husbands not to make things bleak but I think that the reason that it makes sense that men who are more helpful that there's like higher fertility rates in those situations is because men doing things is hot like evolutionarily right that's if we're talking about like the basis but biology here yeah a man who can provide a quote unquote and protect and take on their shared believer is attractive and you want to have more kids with them I think I mean I'm just going to say in my situation we had our first daughter and after we had her I really wanted to have a second one in part because my husband's such a good dad he's like such a good dad I was like of course like I first of all I don't want this this kid to be alone at my funeral that was my like thing I was like she needs to have somebody to sit with when her last parent dies I don't want her to be by herself cleaning out my house you know what I mean oh my gosh I know it's really heartening to hear that because you know you don't always hear that yeah I so anyway about your husband yeah right well I really wanted to I mean like look no marriage is perfect no person is perfect and when you're trying to share a life with someone there's always going to be some tension but something that I really appreciated about him and continue to appreciate is he's just like super hands-on like if I and sometimes we'll miss things I think that it's just the the difference between men and women is that expectations that women have of marriage have changed because they've been like wait wait why are we accepting this why are we accepting that we come home from work and then have to do all the work at home and men have been like okay I'm done with work I get to I get to be at home and like like I've said before women don't want their mother's lives and men want men do want their father's lives and so in order for like a marriage in the modern era to work and not be like infuriating for a woman the man needs to make some conscious decisions to do more than was normal for his father's generation even if he's got a good dad you know what I mean like they just have to make a conscious decision and that like is a bit of a pain in the ass like wouldn't it be nice to just like not have to do stuff around the house you have to make a decision to make your life a little bit harder if you want a woman to be like okay I'll make my life a lot harder to be with you well to going back to what you originally said the the thing that is made invisible is that a woman's work housework child care all of that is a very full-time job multiple full-time jobs arguably because I know plenty of very rich people who hire staff that in health staff that includes a nanny and a housekeeper it's like those are multiple things and it used to all just fall on the life so if you think about that that that's what's invisible and so men I think that's you know you can speak to like inequality you have the very wealthy who are essentially outsourcing all of that and then their wife can sort of be you know this status symbol wife and then they can get that life yeah Caitlin Flanagan got a lot of flack by writing an article many years back about how like wealthy feminists educated women were like outsourcing a lot of the domestic labor in their home but yeah that's one of the fact yeah I mean it's yeah it's it is a fact I mean it's not is it not true yeah I mean it's it's she got flack for saying she while Caitlin Flanagan can be a little bit of an eye poker like I appreciate that about her I don't agree with her all the time but I'm like okay I see what you're trying to do Caitlin okay speaking of men speaking of men somebody recently had the great idea that maybe we should pay more attention to men you know last week democratic senator Ruben Gaiego along with Roger Marshall who's a Republican from Kentucky introduced a bill to the Senate floor that aims to improve men's health finally someone's going to study men's health what a great idea the bill directs the U.S. government accountability office to study the state of men's health in the country here's a direct quote from the press release men are facing a growing health crisis and dying earlier from preventable conditions like cancer heart disease and mental health struggles instead of letting men continue to struggle alone in silence this bill would establish an office of men's health to promote preventative care and life saving research when we invest in men's health we build stronger families and stronger communities no just make the men take home that's what like I feel like part of the reason men are struggling is because what a lot of in the past get married and then their wife would be like go to the doctor I'm going to schedule the appointment for you I'm going to make sure you're doing this I'm going to feed you healthy foods and like no men need to develop self-sufficiency I'm sorry I like jumped in right away because it was making me mad but Sammy what do you what do you have to say about this no I mean if they're struggling alone in silence like no one has ever if we don't have one thing it's people telling men to shut up and so let them talk no one's stopping you you have all the chance right so you know we let them I don't know it's it's just so annoying because all health studies before like the 90s were were men were about so everything I don't know like sorry you guys aren't getting enough attention I mean here's a here's a good example of like okay acknowledging that there's a problem among men the solution isn't to pour more money into researching men's health which is the thing that has been studied for the last like hundred years right the solution is to figure out why men can't take care of themselves like you know what I mean it's not like it's like okay so it sounds like they're just not taking care of themselves so why are they are they raised with a sense of helplessness are they raised to be taken care of are they I don't think they're being raised all the way I think that they need to be raised to be self-sufficient people people who can survive on their own and who when they're in a household with someone else whether it's a roommate a boyfriend a girlfriend whatever they should be a contributor to the household and if for some reason the other half of their household goes away they should be capable of making themselves a sandwich it's not that complicated and like vacuuming their own floors they should know how to like deep clean the tub it's not that hard it's not that especially because like you know they can figure it out like they can figure out catching a fish somehow apparently I'm sure they can figure out how to operate a vacuum maybe we could make vacuums a little bit more butch you know like how we made yogurt they're pretty butch we could I know what we could like put flames on the side of them or something pain in black and call it like they're called shark like a dude called shark yeah like a dude vacuum or something or like flame and shark or flame and hot shark vacuum for men remember you know all those ads that are like a woman vacuuming from like the 50s yeah like though it could be like that but it's like liquid death vacuum yeah totally I think we just need to make it like an extreme vacuum like monster energy drink but a vacuum you know what this is why I think such sentiments like boys will be boys are so harmful because when you raise then with very low expectations you're going to get very low behavior and I know there's this sort of backlash among I guess maybe it's like millennial and Gen Z men who are sort of resentful because when they were growing up it was like all about girl power girl power and so they felt like they were ignored I know that's like a lot that's behind the like male loneliness epidemic and I don't know what you like on some level this is psychological this is like a mass psychology problem and I don't really know how you revert to like a man of honor that isn't also like needing to be above women and I don't know how you solve that problem I mean I think just using a person of honor a person of honor I think that there's like I think that that men should be raised and this will contribute to overall mental health because like raised with a sense of personal responsibility for themselves and self-sufficiency where it's like it is not anybody else's job to take care of you but like if you can take care of yourself you can help take care of other people and other people who are who are capable of taking care of them. themselves can also help you when you need a hand. But like, you need to be capable of doing it on your own for the most part, you know? Eventually, you'll need support. And then you can feel free to support each other. You can be a support to other people. Like, instead of being somebody who just expects to be cared for, expects to be looked after, expects to be reminded to go to the doctor and expects to be catered to. Like, here's an example that I think is why we're kind of, we're scoffing at this. Like, oh, we should spend more money on men's health. Like, obviously, we want everybody to be well. But like, let's take PCOS for example. It's a condition that affects 10 to 13% of women worldwide. 70% don't, oh, you have it. What? And I was like, like diagnosed because you don't. We don't know anything. It's like, you would know anything about it. Where doctors are like, and so is my mom. It could be anything. But 70% of women don't even know they have it. So it was just this year that they renamed it to polyendocrine metabolic ovarian syndrome or P-M-O-S to help doctors understand what women are experiencing and give a proper diagnosis. And endometriosis affects one in 10 women and is still famously understudied. I believe one study into endometriosis looked into the attractiveness of women with endometriosis. Yeah, very important. Yeah, I feel like this bill reads as very tone deaf. And also, you know, look, Dems in Disarray. But let's not forget the reporting, accusing Ruben Gaiego of having romantic relationships with his staff. The ethics committee dismissed the allegations. But where, you know, look, he spent an awful lot of time around Eric Swalwell. I don't know that he should be like, let's pay more attention to the men right now. Again, like maybe girl-bossing too close to the sun. You know, I don't care that Ruben Gaiego is a Democrat. I'm not advocating he gets kicked out of Congress or anything. But I think he is not the greatest. And we're just going to say that. And I think he's an example of how men basically, they meet the standard that you put them at. And I think he's like a really good example of that. I think nobody benefits more from awful men than like medium awful men. Like they're, like, I remember when-- So true. I remember during me too. I remember during me too when like, you know, there's kind of smattering of stories that came out that just kind of explored a range of offenses and a range of harms done by powerful men to less powerful usually women, sometimes other men. And I remember like a lot of times the pushback I would get-- I mean, these are these unsari stories, like a great example. Where it's like, yeah, he sounds like he had a shitty date. The story was written in a really weird way. But people were like, oh, the whole Me Too movement should be dismissed, because it's not like he was Harvey Weinstein. 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Have you always kind of had it in the back of your mind? - No, and if you knew me in college, you would have never predicted that this is where my life would take me. I knew when I was four years old, I wanted to be a doctor and my whole life revolved around achieving that goal, practicing as a pediatrician. But after 15 years of understanding the impacts of policies on my patients and their families, I started to understand the importance of politics, engaging in politics on behalf of America's children and their families. So I got off the sidelines actually after the parkland shooting at Marjorie Stoemen Douglas High School. I joined Mom's Demand Action. Joining that organization really helped me understand the value of my voice, and it just all snowballed from there. I ran in 2022 against Nancy Mace in South Carolina's first congressional district, learned a lot through that experience, never planned to run for office again. But I actually decided to get in this race, the day RFK Junior was nominated to lead HHS, speaking of the measles. - Oh my goodness. Okay, well, let's talk about your background as a physician. How does it inform your policy priorities? - It really is my entire world view, is from my 20 years working on the front lines of America's broken healthcare system. So I'm a hospital-based pediatrician. I take care of sick and injured children in the hospital setting, and I would go to work and take care of kids who, when they go home, their parents don't know where their next meal is coming from, kids that I would diagnose with new common chronic diseases like asthma or diabetes. And while I explain the treatment plan to the families, they don't, they have to ask me, how much is that inhaler gonna cost, or how much is that insulin going to cost? Kids who get admitted in the throes of mental health crises, whose families have been desperately looking for mental health resources in their communities, but haven't been able to find them in every children's hospital and every state in this country tonight. There will be kids who have to spend the night in their hospital room alone, because their parents have to leave their sick child's bedside to go work their third shift job just so they can make ends meet. And then, of course, like most pediatricians in this country, I have cared for children who have been shot. So all of those are policy failures. And as a pediatrician, I understood that I had agency, I had this lived experience, and I could apply it to advocacy first. And then once I realized talking to lawmakers who don't inherently care about America's children, was not a path to catalyze change. I understood we have to elect people who inherently care about the issues we care about if we really want to see change. the energy like on the ground like what are any favorite moments from the campaign yes the vibes are incredible in South Carolina right now okay things are changing things are shifting one of my favorite moments was in the upstate in Greenville South Carolina which is inherently thought of as being a really deep red part of the state we had an event at a record store we were supposed to be in this small little annex part of the record store we showed up and it was already a problem for the fire department and we ended up just moving the event to the parking lot we were expecting 30 people and over 200 people showed up wow people in South Carolina are tired of a broken Washington DC they're excited to have someone who represents a generational change someone who speaks plainly someone who acts like a regular person because I am a regular person and is fighting for all the things that we care about and so there's we've been building a people-powered movement all across the state for over a year now and so we are in a really good position given the current situation in my race to win in November well how is your strategy shifted since your opponent's sudden death like darling Graham she's never served in political office before so she's kind of an unknown quantity how are you taking that on yeah so you know what I've been saying is who I'm running against has changed but who I'm running for hasn't changed all the problem South Carolina's are facing didn't change when Lindsey Graham died and my mission and the reasons I got off the sidelines haven't changed so really what changes is that now I'm in this unique opportunity to run unopposed for the next four to five weeks depending on if this primary goes to a runoff I likely won't know who my opponent is until the end of August so now I've won my primary decisively I'm talking to a general electorate I'm talking to Republicans Democrats and Independents about my vision for the future of South Carolina while these Republicans fight it out it's going to be a GOP civil war on the ground in South Carolina because people are not happy with this appointment turning into what looks like an anointment of Lindsey Graham's sister because there's a lot of Republicans in waiting who have a lot of ambition and they saw this as an opportunity to get that Senate seat yeah they probably don't want a Nebo baby no nobody wants a Nebo baby right it's like a Nebo baby situation well and Graham had taken many many deeply unpopular positions even within his own party why was he able to win elections by such wide margins for so long you know he hasn't wanted he hadn't won an election since 2020 and so much has changed since then you know but people have their typical partisan voting patterns in South Carolina there are a lot of people who really cannot ever imagine voting for a Democrat but what has happened you know since Trump came back into office is people are really living the negative impacts of these failed policies coming from this failing administration and so what we were seeing in our polling that showed me neck and neck in a statistical tie with Lindsey Graham and you know getting one out of five non-magger Republicans to vote for me and getting a wide margin with independent voting for me was just people are dissatisfied with what's coming from this Trump administration and so yes historically South Carolina has voted red in presidential elections we haven't had a Democratic Senators since the early 2000s but 2026 is not like an average election cycle this isn't American politics as usual people are ready you know their anti there's an anti-incumbency sentiment out there there's an outsider we want to send outsiders to Washington DC and that's what I represent and you know our healthcare system is deeply flawed and broken and that is an urgent problem and I just can't think of a better time to send I'd be the first ever pediatrician senator I can go up there and go toe-to-toe with RFK Jr. Oh my goodness what would you ask RFK Jr. Oh so many things what would be the meanest question that you would ask RFK Jr. Oh that's a good question I you know this is like a a nerdy joke but I would I'm dying for a reporter to ask him what a p-value is because that is like a very basic statistical principle that he clearly does not understand and he's over there like shifting funds and from the NIH to study things that have already been studied to answer unanswerable or already answered questions and he has like no understanding of what it means to like actually plan a research project and I just want him to be exposed for the grifter and conspiracy theorist and fool that he is okay that is pretty mean but mean but true so you don't want to be a career politician what why does that make you a strong candidate because you know and I know a lot of people say that they say they're gonna run on term limits I mean Lindsey Graham ran on term limits when he was first elected when I was in eighth grade but I actually mean it because I have a job that I love I love being a pediatrician it is the best career but now I understand politics is a path to most efficiently and effectively solve my patients problems I want to go up there and serve two terms work really hard for 12 years and then go back to the career that I love and then your patients would call you Dr. Senator that's right senator doctor a couple fun questions before we wrap in one of your campaign ads you mentioned that you watch Bluey with your kids I have two kids who also watch Bluey so I know that's like a parent and kid activity what's your favorite Bluey episode oh gosh that's such a good question I mean I've seen all of them like five times I heard that they just released them like as longer episodes so you don't have to sit through the intro every time have you heard that it's really like a game changer that is about to watch episode after episode after episode the theme song haunts me it's so it's so good I consider Bluey to be a parenting show that children will watch and it's just so amazing I mean gosh I don't even know what my favorite episode is what's your favorite episode sleepy time oh yes oh yeah when they're floating in this space and it's a dream sequence and in the end I'm crying for some reason I'm like so good it's really good and then the rain one yeah yes that's a good one it makes me want to be a better parent that's for sure I know it makes me feel slightly insufficient but then I'm like they're only parenting what's what's seven minutes seven minutes at a time right so right so maybe that's how I can think about parenting okay I'm gonna show a photo of you that you have used in your campaign materials this is you as a little kid okay my questions about this haircut did achieving this haircut uh involve a bowl um I look like a lamp in that picture um that is an aggressive little lamp 1980s bowl cut the funny thing is my youngest daughter like has my face like she has that face but she has a normal haircut and now I see what was would have been possible when I was I think six or seven there was not a bowl use in achieving this look but I think that they nailed it yeah no it's perfect not a hair out of place wigs could never no could never all right um South Carolina is one of four states I've actually never visited so if I were to visit South Carolina where would you send me what's your favorite what are your favorite things about your state yes so you got to come to the low country first you have to go to the beach you have to eat oysters raw oysters are you willing to do that okay that's great you should go to Bowen's Island which is on James Island it's like a hole in the wall but you can sit out on the porch and watch watch dolphins swimming while you eat your fried shrimp it's amazing but then you also have to go to the upstakes that's one of the most amazing things about South Carolina is the beaches right there and then just three and a half hours away you're in the mountains in the foothills of the western North Carolina mountains so in the Greenville area travelers rest is a fun little town with lots of breweries and shops and you can see the mountains going to hike so that's what I would recommend amazing those are two things that I love doing and then finally how can our listeners support your campaign yes they can go to drany andrews.com they can sign up to volunteer you can fund bacon text bank from anywhere they can also donate you know we have a people-powered movement our average donation is $26 we don't take corporate pack money and we've raised over $11 million so we are in a position to win but it's gonna take people from all across the country believing that it's possible I also like to say I'm a cheap date it doesn't cost a lot to run a robust campaign in a state like South 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Dr. Annie Andrews thank you so much for joining us and good luck in the general. Thank you so much. hysteria is brought to you by hexclad. 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I do think, and this will come up later, that you could do a variation on this fucking guy, which is this fucking girl. And you uncover the women behind the famous men who, and basically like, show how they really had, they would really wouldn't be anywhere without. Oh, you know, that's saying like, she's like that fucking girl, like it's that girl. Oh, that's interesting. I like that. Well, let's ideate more on this after we're done recording this episode, 'cause I like that again. Okay, well, speaking of stories at center men, although the Odyssey's been out now for almost two weeks, and it continues to dominate discourse online. And in just about every conversation that I have in the office, I feel like I'm one of the last Americans who hasn't seen it. But like, as you know, I've got two little kids at home, I get home from work and I'm immediately doing feeding them and putting them, you know, they have to eat like every day, children. It's like multiple times you have to keep feeding them. And then you have to like give them, you have to clean them and stuff anyway. It takes a lot of time. So I have a chance to go to the movies and I kind of want to wait until like, we have a babysitter so that I can go with my husband. It's long. Yeah, that's fine. So is the source material. So like everyone else, we're not done talking about it. I specifically wanted to talk about Emily Wilson's review of the film. Emily Wilson is a professor of classical studies at UPEN and she wrote a 2017 translation of the Odyssey that Christopher Nolan has said to have taken some inspiration from. Apparently it's flying off the shelves right now. So congratulations, like a rare moment for a classics professor to just like really shine. Like this is the time for like high school English teachers and classics professors and people who speak Greek to just like really to really let it fly. Maybe we could reverse the literacy crisis. I mean, maybe I kind of love that they're using like this classical work of literature as the inspiration for this this blockbuster giant film. Well, Emily Wilson wasn't the biggest fan of the film. Her review is scathing and it's that's that's maybe an understatement and I love a takedown. So I devoured this even though I haven't seen the movie. I still will see the movie and I will probably like the movie. But I also like even things that I like. Sometimes I love to read someone just shit on it. Me too. What do you think that's about? I don't know. But like a restaurant that I like. If I read like a takedown of the restaurant, I'm like, yes, like please give it to me. A movie I love. I love a takedown, a musician, a writer. I don't see him. It's just like I kind of like hearing all the opinions. Like and it's it's not like I am personally offended. Yeah, because it's like, yeah, okay. You didn't we can like we can dislike things that we other people like. I don't feel like my yum is ever yucked, you know? Correct. I just I think everyone has a I kind of like it when people just let it fly. And especially if they're like kind of mad because I think people when they're creative, when they're mad, I just love it. I love it. I agree. And also sometimes things that you like. You also dislike a little and vice versa. Yeah, yeah, totally. Okay. So here's some things that Emily Wilson said about Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey. I would be ashamed to have written any part of this script. The film lacks psychological, emotional and political and ethical depth. Its narrative structure is gimmicky. The writing is abysmal. None of the characters has convincing motivation for their actions or words. There are no sex scenes and all the food looks horrible. I laughed a lot at that. I mean, they are all the food looks horrible. That's so funny because sometimes when I read things that are like old texts and they describe the food, I always picture it being so good. Right. Right. It's like a cartoon level of good. Yeah. Yeah. It's like when you watch it. But it probably didn't look that good. I mean, maybe. But they also were, they were cooking with, they didn't have seed oils. So you know that they're using whole foods, like it was probably, it's great. But did it look good? Yeah. Were they plating it nicely? Maybe. I mean, it's greased and so they have this kind of like plethora of amazing ingredients to use and like some of them are colorful. So olives. I wish we could see it. I know. Yeah. I want to, you know what I'm kind of peckish right now, I should probably, yeah. Another thing that Wilson wrote is, it's a family, it's family friendly audiovisual spectacle, like an elaborate fourth of July fireworks display and with about the same level of narrative and emotional depth. I agree with that. Yeah. My eyes. Which is fine. My eyes stay dry even for Argos the dog whose adorableness as a puppy is predictably amped up to suit our animal loving times. If only the human characters had been treated with such serious attention. Okay. There's more. I encourage everybody to read this Emily Wilson review, even if you liked the movie, people were so obsessed with review that it crashed the London review of books website for a period of time and I had to read an archived version of it. Okay. So Sammy, you've seen the movie. I haven't. I've just read the review and been like still going to see the movie. The review is called an uncomplicated man. Does the title fit? Absolutely. I, I, first of all, I want to say I loved the movie and I still, this review I kind of, I agree, but I also think it's like annoying. But then there's this part of me that's like, not everything is for everyone. What business do I have judging her review when he Christopher Nolan is referencing her translation? What do I know about the Odyssey? Like nothing. Literally I didn't remember any of the plot when I went into the movie. So who am I to judge what she thinks of the movie when I'm consuming it from an entirely different perspective like she's watching and reading it as an expert who knows this better than 99.99% of the world ever will. And I'm reacting to it as like a consumer of pop culture. So yeah. And I don't know. I kind of like that you can have a lot of perspectives. I, um, I actually read a thread that I, uh, perfectly encapsulates my feelings. I want to shout out Zoe Surrell at the handle at Flutes and Poems. She writes, I love it all TBH. I love Nolan's Odyssey. I loved Emily Wilson's critique of Nolan's Odyssey. I love the layperson's glowing review of the film, the layperson's dissection of how they love the film. I love when art provokes strong feelings and I love when we're moved to mind the deepest idiocycacies of humanity. I love that we would have done it different. I love that we wouldn't have changed a thing. I love that art has given us a direct rhetorical highway between 2026 and 700 BCE. Yeah. I think it's just beautiful. That's great. Like the story has made it from ancient Greece to your office. And that's all people are, it's something that we can all connect on. And I just think that it's like amazing that there's something so rich that even exists. So that's my feeling on it. Yeah. I love a cranky academic too. Like there's something in the right context, not at a cocktail party. But in the right context, I love it when it's like, okay, this person who really knows their shit is engaging with it. But I also think that a version of the Odyssey that engaged Emily Wilson would not necessarily have engaged as many people because she's operating on such a high level and she's so familiar with the material that I think it would have maybe been inaccessible to a lot of people. So like days long, I don't see how you could actually fit all the things she said she wanted to fit. in. Like when would that all go? Yeah, well, one of her critiques was with, well, the fact that there is no sex is very funny because like in the Odyssey and the poem, yeah, like in the poem Odysseus sleeps with Cersei. Like, there's, and he sleeps with her for like a year, I think. Like they have a baby. Yeah, it's like kind of wild. And I think that like, you know, the no female characters thing is real. I, one of my biggest bugaboo's with Christopher Nolan is that he seems so uncomfortable writing women that he just kind of doesn't. And in like Oppenheimer, like I hate it up inheimer. I hate it like Oppenheimer either hated it. It was the writing to watch it. It was like a Wikipedia entry, like a high budget with a video entry where it was like people just like reading to it was like, well, I'm Robert Oppenheimer. As you know, I'm your friend who's known you for 10 years. Well, in that 10 years, we've been through a lot. It was just like, I don't, why is this dialogue? He's a bit of an expository writer. Yeah, I would say. But that's not like why you're seeing Christopher Nolan movie. No. Or at least that's not why I'm seeing one. Yeah. You want it to be loud. You want to be loud explosions. But no, honestly, what I, okay, some of Christopher Nolan's movies are my favorite movies. Like the prestige. Oh, the perception. Incredible. Yeah. Incredible. And what I like in those movies is the way he plays with time, similar to Momento also, where there's like this sort of reveal at the end. And I like it for that. And the problem to me is not that like Christopher Nolan can't write a woman like could I write a male character that while I probably not. My issue is that there's no space to support parody where like a great female director gets to, you know, play with such amazing source material is the Odyssey and then get to be held in such high regard. So it's like Christopher, like, I'm not that surprised that Christopher Nolan can't write a female character. It's that there's no, there's no space and culture for that for a woman. Well, like Greta Gerwig's Beowulf or something. Yeah, maybe. But maybe. Yeah, I mean, for real, that might be interesting. Actually, Greta Gerwig, if you're listening, you should pitch a Beowulf adaptation. If Christopher Nolan can do the Odyssey, you can do Beowulf, okay? Or like, I'm sure there's like a million epic things that baby should want to get hurt. Like something of that level. But the fact is it's like Greta Gerwig's like one of the only female directors who we would name in that conversation. And it's not that I like feel like I need Christopher Nolan to make a Greta Gerwig movie. But I would like more women to get the funding and the support to be able to take such big swings. And it's not just like this anomaly when like Barbie or sinners comes out because it's like, oh, actually, black people see movies too. It's like, it shouldn't be such an astounding thing. And I was going to say, it does feel very goldfish memory. Sort of like that can can women be funny and hot? It's like, yes. Lucille Ball. We've done this. We have done this so many times. Like, yes, we can. Why are we pretending that this doesn't happen all the time? Like, can women make black busters? Yes, absent fucking. Lulee, they can. And they have like recently, like, can black people make movies that other than white people want to say, yes, they can. Why are we? Why do we keep having this conversation over and over again? It almost feels like deliberate, practiced ignorance to justify excluding them until somebody breaks through and then act surprised like that. It just feels like part of the system that keeps white men at the top of the list of people who get the chance to make these things. Well, just think about how like business gets done. Like what gets funded? Just men are more likely to like talk to men and give the people they know these this funding or find it or have it. Like, they just have more money. And even with, okay, but even with Christopher Nolan, there's, you know, so he famously doesn't have a, he doesn't do email, he doesn't have a smartphone. And the reason is because his wife, his production partner does all that stuff for him. And what I find to be offensive, even, is that he's the one whose name is going to get remembered as like this great artist. But that's all facilitated by his wife whose most people will never know her name and she's not getting credit for it. And that's why I think that fucking girl could be the new series because it's like, who is really, who is enabling that work? Like, was Michelangelo's wife actually, you know, taking on some ships at the Sistine Chapel? Why don't we talk about her? It's like, all these things just seem so absurd to me. And who are all the women who have been facilitating all of this? You know, I completely agree. And I just wanted to to flag. There was a speech, a baseball player forget who it was, was being inducted into the Hall of Fame and during his speech, he thanked his wife as like his most important teammate ever. He's like, everybody saw what I was doing on the field, but nobody saw it was happening behind the scenes like because she was raising our children and keeping our house and like making a life work that I could return to. I was able to do this. And like, you're my, you know, I love you so much. You're my best teammate ever. Like, it was so sweet. And I feel like there's, there's a pattern of that in history. And like, that's, that's great. Like, I'm not saying that it always should be that the man should never be allowed to excel, you know, but like Ruth Bader Ginsburg's husband kind of stayed home and, and put him put his career on the back burner because he was so interested in promoting her. I think same with Justice Jackson's husband, I believe, as a physician, but he's so like, he would, he would do anything to support his wife's career. I think that they're the partnership aspect of marriage often gives the glory to men and the work to women. And I think that's like a really good point. Like, I'm sure, you know, him and him and his Christopher Nolan and his wife work together, but Christopher Nolan is the name that everybody knows. All right. We're going to take a quick break when we come back. Sanny Petty. Historia is brought to you by Bolesa. Stop what you're doing and listen closely because Bolesa and I are giving away free spicy toys or gift cards for every single one of you. That's right. 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I'm going to say there was this dance hit with a video that went pretty viral when I was in college called "Call On Me," which is a remix of the song "Valory" and "Call On Me" featured women in like 80s workout gear and like thongs doing very suggestive, like, aerobics-inspired moves. If you've seen that video, this outfit looks inspired by the video, but minus the really fun 80s colors and 80s hair. It is like a wrestling singlet over a bando top that appears to have like a kind of thong-like cut within the shorts, so it gives you, make sure that your two butt cheeks are distinct as you wear it. I cannot think of anything that I would want to work out in less than this. Like, bodies in motion, where are they going to the circus? They're not staying in motion. They're not sitting. This is one of those things where I look at it and like I genuinely am just like, "Oh, like, so boring, so stupid, so like meant to provoke a reaction that I'm just like next." Like, I hate this kind of thing where it's like, "You're just such a capitalist sell-outs. Can you make something interesting?" It's so-it's so-it's so-it's an interesting thing. And I just don't-it looks more like-like long costumes. Yeah, it does look like a costume, like a superhero in a porn-like parody of superheroes. And also-but I will say this, here's the sanity among the petty, because this looks really dumb and I think a lot of people agree with me. All the commenters on the Instagram post from Nike Women Agree with me, they're very funny. One of them said, "Is this the Borat Edition?" It's so true. Another person said, "Is the motion in the room with us?" One note, Nike, "Try making not for the male gaze." That's all. One person said that they would wear it at the end of their shift. "Is this late April Fool's? Who in the world is wearing this to the gym? More closed design for the landfill?" "I'm on the Mad Max timeline now, yes." It's very like-it looks like something like someone would wear to post a video of them skiing an Aspen wearing that and like a big furry hat. And it's just so tacky and annoying. I mean, if Nike had done something with skims, it could be maybe a respectable, cool collection. And this is what you do. I don't have time for it. Yeah, I don't think anybody has time for it, but yeah, it's barely got any fabric to it. Something I think that- Hi margins. I mean- I'd wear to a costume party. Yeah, you know what? I would wear this. I would make this the bet in a fantasy football league where if you lose, you have to wear that outfit out to just like run errands. That would be- Okay. Yeah. Like, be really fun. But then you have to buy it. Well, I mean, among the- In theory. The league would pool their money and they would buy one of them at the end of the- and then the last place person would have to wear it. I think that would be an appropriate use of this costume for people who lose bets. All right, Sammy, what are you feeling petty about or what is giving you sanity this week? Um, I am feeling petty and it is very much giving me the opposite of sanity. Have you been following Max Miller in Congress? Yes, unfortunately. He's like one of this- I want to like, I wish I didn't know who he was. I wish he didn't exist. But yeah, yeah, like he'd be torturing someone no matter where he was. It's what I've learned about this man. He is a congressman. He just got elected in 2022 after being Trump- one of Trump's senior aides for his first administration. He got his job because Trump endorsed him to primary. Someone who voted against Trump being in peach for January 6th. So, yeah. He also is married to the daughter of Ohio Senator Bernie Moreno or was married. They're now exes. But we have learned through like I think 2000 pages of court documents and police reports that he was allegedly, extremely abusive towards her and to their- potentially to their two-year-old daughter, um, whose collarbone he may have broken. Oh my god. He allegedly held a gun to his ex-wife's head while she was changing the daughter's diaper. The daughter had said something like- One said to her like, "Daddy kill mommy." Like, "Crazy abuse." Like he threw- Oh my god. He threw boiling water on her like- And the thing is like, yes, that is his case. But he has a whole history of like abuse and drinking and driving and like just really, really like dangerous. He's like a piece of shit. Not just deplorable behavior, but like genuinely violent, dangerous behavior. Like really gross. Okay, so is Senator Moreno doing anything about this? Is he saying anything to support his daughter? What? So this is like, no. He's not- no Republican has. Has there anything about this? Oh, I mean, predictable, but like disgusting. Predictable. But even his own father, he and Max Miller have had issues like Max Miller got into a fight with like Bernie Moreno's attorney. Like he cannot- this man cannot have an engagement that doesn't seem to devolve into violence. So Bernie Moreno's not even saying anything. And I think this is where I feel like petty. This could gen- Max Miller is up for reelection as he is every two years. And he could possibly lose a very safe district because of this. And I feel that that is probably why Bernie Moreno is not saying anything. Oh, that's- I mean, he's not- I don't think he's like close to losing, but like it's definitely not doing him any favors there. I mean, no longer being a Congressperson is the least that should happen to somebody who has committed this level of like, it's like trashy violence. Like it is like human-y trash violence. Like a fist fight with your father-in-law's lawyer. He belongs on an island. Like he is a danger. He is a man on the loose. A reckless man on the loose. Yeah. We all know is out there as a room and going to go doing stuff like this. Well, just Jared Leto. People who are just like, oh yeah, he just swept. He's just kind of a wild guy. I mean, we're just not- Oh, that's just Donald Trump as a man on the loose. Like they're all just men on the loose. I love that phraseology, Sammy. That's really- I'm going to start using it. Did you come up with that? I did. Like, honestly, like it's more of my head. I've never like said it as a- This is my phrase, but it's like the way I think of Pete Hagset as a man on the loose. R.K. Jr. It's like where- Then that women would have a whisper network about. Mmm. Yeah. And consequences just evade them. Forever. Oh my god. Max Miller. Man on the loose. He is just, ugh, god. He's so- He's so gross. And I really hope that the people of Ohio are able to at least give him like some punishment at the electoral booth, you know? I am just waiting for his father, his ex-father in a lot of way in. I mean, that's- It's so gross and craven that you would be like, oh, we got an election to win now. I'm not gonna- I'm not gonna say anything. Oh, I don't like that. Yeah, I don't like that. Even though he almost could have killed my daughter. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't like that. I mean, the psychological study of what must be going on in that family. Also, how many people in the Trump administration, like both one and two have been like credibly accused of violence against women specifically? Like so many. It's like a basketball team's worth. You do a Stephanie Grisham who worked for during the Trump first Trump administration. He dated her during the first Trump administration and she had, she didn't name him, but it now it's clear that it was him that like someone who she dated during that administration was abusive to her. And it was him. Oh, my God. Okay. I don't think he can walk into a relationship without being- Being. Oh, my God. Well, who's he running against him? Do we know the name? Good question. We need to- We need to put a show. We'll put a link to that person. Brian Poindexter. An iron worker, Brian Poindexter. Ohio Seven. Okay. Lives in Ohio Seven. He's endorsed by the Working Families Party. Okay. Okay. Well, you know what? Brian. Brian for Congress. This is the only thing we know about him is he's running against Max Miller and Brian for Congress. It would be hard to meet the level of terribleness that Max Miller is. Yeah, yeah. He's pretty awful. Well, I would say that's probably more than a petty thing, but the Bernie Moreno thing is definitely petty 'cause he should not be such a little pipsqueak. He's such a little coward. Like, have a backbone, dude. Didn't you use to sell- he used to sell cars. He should- he should be comfortable confronting people. That's what closing a sale is. It's confrontation. He's a freshman, Senator. Man, Ohio, get your shit together. I know there's good people who live, you know, Ohio. I've got a couple of friends. Oh, yeah. Get your shit together. Oh, why is the jet? That's all the time we have for this week's episode of his Stereo Sammy Sage. Thank you so much for joining me and guest hosting this week. Listeners, if you want to get in touch, [email protected] is the email address. We also want to thank Dr. Annie Andrews for joining us for the interview. And there will be more hysteria for you next week. "Historia is a crooked media production. Our show is produced by Caroline Reston, Claire Fogarty, Kendra James, Adrian Hill, Alyssa Master Monaco, and me. Erin Ryan. Our team includes Matt DeGroat, Rachel Gayesky, Dolan Philanueva, Claudia Shang, Mia Kelman, Jay Banks, Charlotte Landis, and Jordan Cancer. Our staff is probably unionized with the writer's guild of America East." [BLANK_AUDIO]