Mama's Confused w/ Tanner Devore (Eps 26 - 30 Recap)

(upbeat music) - Welcome back to Upstairs Islanders. With your upstairs, with your islanders who are upstairs, yes. - Okay. - Hey y'all, like we're back with Swerenoff Ice once again, back, back, back again. Hey, and cheers. - Paradise. - Cheers to, hey, we got one more week in the can, y'all. And guys, I mean. - Wait, the watermelon wave. - The paradise punch is like always taking it. Here's the thing. This has just been quite the time, quite the journey. I've gone through lows, I've gone through highs. And right now, I am feeling pretty, whoa. You know what I mean, like, I've gone through the stages of grief and then some. - Right. - And then some might. - And then some, I already took a sip of Paradise Punch before we started because it's just like, I needed that. - Right. - I will say though, I think that it's been really fun recording this series with you guys and I'm thankful. - When it gets retrospective, it's like, okay, just back it up. - I'm thankful. - Well, and just vote, y'all. The theme of this week for me is like, just vote. Like, I fear we know everything that we're gonna know, so it's like, honestly, let's just vote. - Well, it's like, let's just vote. I feel like the last thing we got is family week, so. - And it's just like, do I want to meet half y'all parents anyway? I don't know. - Whoa. - I don't know. They have some explaining to do. - Yeah, thank you. - So, yeah, yeah, it's movie night part two. So, yeah, movie night part two, we're starting off with Corbin's clip, which was really bad. - Right. - I'm saying damn, I was like, right. - Right. And here's the thing, you know, again, when it comes to Corbin, it's just like damn. Because I feel as though he has a really interesting arc in the villa. Like, big villain arc, but I, for me personally, I'm speaking for me, I'm not saying this is right, and I'm like, y'all put your pitch forks down because however you feel it's valid, you know what I mean? - Right, I know, 100%. - But I do, low key, have respect for Corbin in the sense that like, he really did some dog dirty shit. Like, really some evil, classic textbook, evil man shit. - Maybe on textbook. - But I do feel like it is really interesting as he, you know, it's very obvious. This is in his first rodeo, like, playing in people's places, you know what I mean? But I think the thing that I have respect for is the fact that like, Corbin apologizes and low key takes accountability. And like, I feel when his like clip went up, he was like, damn, that was bad. Apologize says I'm sorry. He doesn't get like defensive or try and like, excuse it away. He just kind of like, nope, that was dog shit. - Yeah, 'cause I feel like we kind of have through like the trio, the, you know, the big three of Sincere Casey and Corbin, we have kind of like a ranking of accountability. You know what I mean? Like Corbin's immediately like, even when the sorry be coming out the side of his teeth for real. And he'd be like, sorry, bitch, damn, like type shit. It's immediate. And then with Casey, as we'll see, like it is that kind of like, oh. And then like two days later, he's like, I was not fuck you with that. And then you have Sincere who's like, and I'm already worked on it right now. Before we saw the clip, I already worked on it. Okay, and I'm changed. I'm just, it's like maybe like either insincere, and we can talk about this more later. I'm just like either Sincere is genuinely like, practicing, and I'm not, this isn't even a joke. I'm being dead serious. Either Sincere's practicing like a Buddhism that is actually like manifesting in that exact moment. He said, maybe the past, the past. I've learned and I'm standing here right now. Or he's actually the most glazed donut motherfucker ever 'cause it's like the immediate like, guys, I slept on it and I woke up. I'm done lying. I'm done. Huge of true. But we'll get back to that later. I think huge of true. The Corbin is like, his clothes are like mad fucking disrespectful and like really genuinely got awful. Like he genuinely was moving like to a piece of shit style. Like he was literally like freestyling the piece of shit off. He got into the mic and he was like, he was like number one in the pieces of like he was moving through. Yeah, yeah. I feel like also like there was a point where he like doubled down and it was just like low key like getting like disrespectful as fuck and stuff. And I was just like really like, this is the thing. Corbin does his shit, his clip plays. He low key like damn, but also like, and like I'm a dog, you a dog too. This is where he low key gets vindicated on Forge is where Kenzie's clip plays and it's low like quiet on set because she really like came for Corbin and was like, oh, like you play, you play, you play. And here's the thing. I'm not trying to like come for Kenzie because I feel like she's learning some pretty, well, I am going to come for Kenzie. She's having like ego done on the show, I feel. Yes, she's learning very, very monumental, huge lessons unfold before our very eyes. Like you can literally see from like the start of episode 26 all the way down to 30, like her whole entire like, just live flashing before her eyes. But I think when Kenzie, oh my God, when her clips play and like it's the Corbin arc, it's how she was talking about Caleb, like all this shit, it's like, I don't even feel as though she acknowledges like how bad that truly was. Like even the girls were like, damn, like you know, the girls are really cringe-nate shows like that. And when a night says it looks bad, I'm like, then you know it's bad. No, and that's how you don't think nothing looks bad. Especially since here, we'll get back to that though. Yeah, there's thoughts there. But with that being said, I really truly feel as though, like Kenzie, she just cannot fucking, she dishes it all day, but she cannot take it back. And like she avoids accountability like the plague. And I feel as though if she, like the judgment that she feels could be released if she would just accept accountability. 'Cause it's like, I feel as though she feels judge for her actions and how she's like moving in the villa, which is why she does so much shit in secret. You know what I, what, you know. And then it's like, then she gets caught. And then it's like, well, no, no. And she gets like really defensive and starts putting up all these walls and starts like doughing daggers everywhere, you know what I mean? And I'm like, here's the thing, my love. The guilt, the shame, or whatever she's feeling, I'm only could like the shame of lust. The shame of lust, or like just whatever, you know. And these are again projections on her emotions. I like don't know, but I can only imagine, based off what I'm seeing, that like, because of that, it's like if you would just like let go and lean into the fact that you fucked up, it would just be so much easier for things, for you to like, release the things that you're feeling. Because I, you know, I feel like the Gen and Gal situation of it all, and like, even how she was moving there. And the fact that like, Gen, her best friend in the villa was like, girl, low key, if you were moving like this, outside of the villa, like I would not be fucking with you. And the way she was like, why would you say that to me? It's like, you know, like it's like there's, there's a void of accountability there with Kenzie, where it's like, it's so hard for her to look at the truth. And therefore it's just like a part of her downfall and low key vindicated the fuck out of Corbin. - That was awkward. - No, I'm like, I fear there's a self-awareness that is like happening in real time, which again, like I fear none of these people at like 22, 23, 24 should be learning these lessons in front of all of us, but it's like, yeah, girl, 'cause this barkled and left her eyes, but. - Well, exactly. And then I feel like, even her apology, to Caleb, like she just, like Keda would like literally be like, that was fucked up, like you need to apologize. And she'd be like, I'm sorry Caleb, like I need to apologize. Like she was literally just like whatever Keda - Like I need to apologize. - She was just like, or like a nice, she would literally just like repeat it back to Caleb. And I honestly appreciate Keda really clocking her tea because you need, like I feel like a girl like Kenzie, you need someone who's just gonna be like bitch, listen. - Yeah. - Here's the fucking tea, and it's genuinely no shade, which we move into the room. - Sincere. - Sincere. - Fucking costs a clip. - And it's also the, they were all funny for the clickbait of making it like amorous clips, but then it literally just turns into like sincere. I'm like, right, right, right. 'Cause it was allegedly supposed to be a girl's door, allegedly, but of course it's serious. - Well, yeah, if they go B2B. - Right. - All right, Melanie. - And yes. - And arguably, they were genius with that, because it's like, I feel like Sincere is so fucking crazy in how he talks, and like genuinely, he does this thing where he's like, I'm sorry I was wrong, but you look at what you do. - No, the defensiveness was like, are you serious? - You need to be the main one that it should be absolutely silent on to liking you. - Getting defensive had me like, so, okay. Oh, okay, okay. Here's the thing, it's hard to speak on anything Melanie says because she never stood by anything she says, so it kind of just falls under the way. But I will say, she did eat with the sentiment that cause so more should have been the action. I will say I did highlight that, 'cause I was like, I'm seeing you sister, but again, if you're not going to take your own words and like actually use them, then I don't even really know how I can, 'cause it's a lot of this. They both do a lot of talking, talking, talking. - Yeah. And also just the concept of fixing the relationship, like the concept of her being like, I'm waiting for you to fix it. Like I'm waiting for you to fix it. I'm like, the trust or like. - Well, and that's what I mean, I-- - 'Cause, yeah, there's definitely a rose tinted glass that she wears when it comes to sincere and I-- - Like you like. - Talk to this point. - A contact, that's like low key, like she got Lasik done. - No, she got Lasik, I fear. And he did it, it's fucked up. - No, like she got the colored contacts. Like, you know what I mean, the roots in here. - The roots in here. - Like literally the sincere brown, like in her eyes. - No, literally. - Because it's like with Melanie again, I do take back a little bit of some of the harsher sentiment that I was putting on her earlier on. I do think that like again, it's giving a lot of like unregulated plus on top of that. Just like the manipulation of sincere. Well, I do think there was like, you know, she was definitely acting like male centered towards the beginning. I feel like her story has turned into something completely different and like genuinely sinister. And it-- - Well, yeah. - 'Cause we're seeing the nuances now. - Yeah, of course. - But it's interesting. - Yeah, exactly. But I think like my heart just like genuinely breaks for her. - 100%. - Because it's like, I don't know. Like you could just see the men have literally sucked the fucking life out of some of these fucking girls. Melanie's specific. - Melanie's specific. - Like, you could put her-- - It's going through like, depression. - She, and even on top of the depression, like it's like not a psychotic break because that's not what I mean. But there's a fear. - I don't work for her. - The regression was, that was really hard to watch. But there's a fierce like, and the girls, y'all will be getting your buds popped if it was up to me. But like that, okay, fine, we'll get into that later. But like, I can't imagine like the, I can't think of the word, I'm so tired. But like, the difference between what she is feeling like, gutterly, that is like, obviously so there and so present versus what he and also kind of, everyone else is telling her. - Well, and see, that's the thing. And that's why he is going down in history as the most matte, like Jen, like, history of the most manipulative person to ever fucking walk this planet. Because I feel like, again, there's like this charismatic, almost like thing that he does, you know? Because it's like, in that moment, when like, sincere clips like finish up, also it like kept like, I don't know, I didn't like, fuck with the fact that like, Amora kept laughing, but I will also be like, maybe she felt uncomfortable. - Yeah, it was laughing. - That's what I was talking about, too, too. - I'm just gonna talk it up to that, but like, again, I was just like, like not too much, not too much. Like I was just like, guys, like, again, that could have been an editor situation, but I just made me feel really deeply uncomfortable. - Yeah. - But that was the other thing, too, when like, Loki Amora defended him a little bit, and was just kind of like, well, I'm like, you watched the show, you know he moved like that, and also it kind of pissed me off that she was like, well, I don't know, Melanie, like, I think that, you know, yes, sincere did move like that, but like, you guys are here together now, like she keeps kind of doing this thing, where she is like, well, and they all do. Where she's like, I don't know, yes, sincere was weird, but like, look, he picked you, so why aren't you happy? And I'm like, that's some 21 year old shit. Like, I didn't-- - That's why it's all 21, 22, because Anaya, sister, sister, sister, sister, turning to Melanie after those clips, talking about some, well, his intentions with your appear, his intentions with your appear, I'm about to end again, 22, so like, I'm gonna keep it right here, and I'm gonna go like this, because 22 versus 29, and we don't even wanna have this discussion, because 22 versus 29 looks like parmeda at the end, being like, because you're in a toxic relationship, and sometimes love isn't enough. When you hear love isn't enough, that's how I know you'll fucking frontal up. Like, you're frontal here, it's alive, it's alive. - And like, no shade, but I'm like, when I'll get into parmeda in a second. - But also, it's like, literally, I feel like Amora just like was defending him weirdly, and I was like, why, like, just let him take shit on the fucking chin, and then when-- And then, really, where I needed my gun genuinely, is when sincere brought up, but look how you were acting with Corbin. Are you fucking good, bro? No, you're fucking not. You're literally such a bitch, dude. Like, genuinely, genuinely, I was like, oh, wow, that's when they took us off the island, genuinely, is when he said that, like, they literally, like, flew me out for real, on like the first chopper out to the States, because when he said that, I was like, oh, that's how I know you fucking play, and that's how I know, before the villa, before you literally get caught in 4K, that's his signature move. Like, he's so, there's such a pattern with him. - Well, first, it's like the same shit that happened with Soul when she had his back against Ron. He was like, so you think you're just like an angel, you think you're an angel? Maybe nobody said that. - But that's what I mean. - Maybe nobody said that. - 'Cause I'm just like the Corbin shit. Like, you actually have to be like Corbin shit. - That was literally-- - The Corbin shit. - Your first week in the villa. - The Cor-- allegedly, the Corbin shit. Like, mind you, again, and I just, and genuinely, again, I want him to get off the show and talk to Dr. Orna. Like, Dr. Orna, you have an opportunity to do a really sickening partnership here. But I'm just like, the idea or the concept of, and maybe just in the heat of the moment, getting defensive, like, you just start saying shit. But it's like, the concept of thinking those two things are comparable is like, it's camp. Like, he looks camp right in the eye, and he's like, yes, I did talk to these two girls and make out with them and told them that they're the one. But like, you and Corbin had some chats, and like, you said he was fine. It's like, shut the boss here. Like, shut the fuck up. Like, shut your, shut the fuck up since here. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Shut it. Shut your bitch ass. Shut your bitch horror mouth up. Genuinely, I want to see that shit sealed Corline style. Like, literally put the buttons over his eyes and send him away and packing bitch. Like, genuinely, he got me so fucked up. He got me so fucked up. But yes, again, Amora, Anaya, like the two fucking enablers in the house, like, I don't know why. I don't know what, sincere pill you guys fucking took to literally be like, so a guy's like, I'm, you know what? And Amora really pisses me the fuck off too, because it's like, you know damn well, you watched the show just like everyone else. You got to watch it from your hotel room and see what the fuck's going on. You knew, sincere was a POS. You knew just exactly how he just moved with soul. And Melanie, you saw the back and forth, literally no edits, no cuts. So it's like if you were doing that for the love of the game on just like, since you're fine, I'm a bombshell. I have no one else. But I do. I also wonder, 'cause did you see what was the other one that was supposed to take Melanie out the hood? - Corey. - Corey. Did you see Corey like posted a TikTok or something, and he was like me when I got home and like actually watched the episodes and I was like, oh shit. Did you all see that? Or he like said something like that? Like it was kind of implying 'cause he went on afterson I guess and was like, I grow out now and watch afterson. But I heard the guys went on afterson and they lowkey were like, not popping butts. Like they were supposed to or something like that. - Oh yeah, he was like Team KC. - Right, but then I think he was kind of implying that like you didn't get to see the whole thing, which I'm interested to know what that's about as well. - Well then still again. - Like even still. - It's just like no shade of mora, but you really are talking out of turn. And it's like, no, like I'm saying this in lowercase, like I'm not saying this is like a full drag on her, but it, no, and I'm like, so guys again, what's the tea and I know that at yay locked, but I'm like. - Be some other shit. - Yeah, I'm sorry y'all had to hit it. - 'Cause I'm like, I'm wondering what - Maybe they gave them the package they gave me. - Maybe they give them the recap. - Yeah, like the recap they play in the beginning or something. - They must be something like that. But no, even still because, and that's where again, and we'll get back to this, but. - You just watched movie night with all of us bitch. You had Corbin shook the fuck up. Casey shook the fuck up. Like genuinely, everyone all like literally quiet on set. And again, Anaya, like my favorite enabler genuinely. It's like my love, there's a lesson for you. And it's like, I love Anaya, but I'm like, being a good friend, and this is your lesson right now. - This is 22 for real. - Yeah, but I'm like, this is like on some enabler shit, and I've graduated from the school, so I'm gonna let you know this lesson that you need to learn. It's telling people what they want to hear is not being a good friend. - Yeah, that's true. - You trying to, because your friend, you see your friend's struggling, she's in a bad relationship, and you telling her like, well, maybe like enough. Again, like the people pleasing of sincere for whatever reason. Like, I'm just like, again, you're doing this people pleasing thing where you're like trying to like tell everyone everything to make everyone happy, but I'm like, that's not the reality of the situation. Like, honestly, you need to take a page out of Kate's book, Low Key, which when, bitch, when they were in the dressing room, and she was like, I'm team sincere, like I'm team sincere whatever in Kate was like, what about team Melanie's feelings? - Literally. - I was like, thank you so much, because it is, and let me not even compare it, just like Anaya as a person, it's just like, or as like a who she is in this villa right now. It's like, Melanie's your closest friend. If I saw it with you right now and watched a clip of somebody doing the shit that sincere was doing to you and other people, I would be like, I would of course, on some friendship, be like, if that's, again, you do what you want to do as we can see with Melanie, actually like in a really sad way. If you were like, that's still my, that's still my partner, though, like I'm gonna handle it. I would be like, okay, but there's absolutely no way in hell that I'm not letting you know exactly what the fuck. going on before you get sent off. - Well, and that's-- - There's no way. Like, again, like, I was just like, it's a fucking mess. - It's a people pleasing for no reason. - It's a people pleasing, and it's like, I don't know if there's a fear there that like if Melanie does decide to go home, like she loses her best private situation. I don't know necessarily like, but I will chalk it up to people pleasing and then enabling. But more so, it's like that very much so. There is a friend archetype that like you kind of do have to break out of. If you want to be a good friend, and like, I do understand when you're young, it's like, especially if you already are the people pleased or the therapist are like, all these you got a couple years. - Yeah, it's like when you are that friend that everyone goes to and everyone just like needs to like hear someone say yes, or like if you're the person, like, you know, when like you're dating someone and you know that like you shouldn't be together, but you, and like you break up. And then you low-key want to start talking to them again, and all your friends are like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So you go to like the eighth person and the eighth person says yes, like low-key and nice, the eighth person that says yes. And it's just like, baby girl, you gotta stop that shit. But this is the part that gags me as if Sinier, Sinier, Sinier. As if Sinier couldn't get Sinister, couldn't get sorry enough, 'cause he's sorry as fuck. Like generally trifling ass, loser ass, sorry ass. Okay, this is where I really was like, this is really some low caliber, low vibrational ass shit. Corbin, C-O-R-B-I-N. Corbin, big S-- - Capital C, mine, your capital C. - Capital C for captain, bitch. 'Cause for whatever reason, he's Y'all's ace who's like literally telling y'all what to do because why the fuck is Corbin the one that's literally like, listen Sinier, you fucked up big time, Brody. It's time to be quiet on set. It's time to sleep in soul ties. If Melanie goes to sleep in soul ties, you give her the bed. Are we serious? - Well, guess we are. - Big, big captain Corbin, that's what I was trying to say y'all and like when the pitch works were out, like I understand at the same time, but if we wanna talk about the ranking again of like the lion to the cub, some of y'all are new and some of y'all are true and Sinier is something in between, which is like, which is like, he's new to like accountability, but like he true to like the lying in the deception. And like one thing about Corbin is he finna wipe the tomatoes off his fucking face in front of everyone and be like, it is what it is. - Yeah. - It is what it is. Like it makes sense to me completely because it's like y'all wanna come up here and play these like big guy, like SpongeBob big guy games, but it's like, are you big guy though? Are you big guy for real? 'Cause the fact that he even thought to himself like, obviously if she sleeps outside, you would sleep or like you would let her sleep in the bed, I'm like, you have women in Miami? - Absolutely. - Like, your number is not like the conversation's not deleted, but your number has like no name to it. You know what I'm saying? - Oh yeah, I mean, his shit like fuck, like I just know on gang bitch, like he literally has done some disturbing shit. We've already seen the disturbing shit that he's done, but the thing is like you're saying he's true to it. Baby girl, he's lived it, he's living it, living the Vita Loka bitch. - Living the Vita Loka at mind you once again, 22 years old. - Yes. - That's how you know, because it's like, 'cause what have you even gotten done in like your four years of being alive? - But that's what I mean, well, and he told us, he didn't tell us if you, like he used to be a dog, and his bed. - And I'm like, so when you were 18? - 16 bitch, I were 18. - No, I don't know, but I'm just like again, like if you grow up with a face card so crazy, and you're low key like boring nothing burger. - And you're swollen, you're in Miami, with tattoos, it's like his job. - And it's like, Blasia is like in the house. - Exactly. - Bro, we don't know, we don't know. - No, but you'll need to listen. You'll need to listen, like seriously. - Because then like again, I'm not saying with Corbin, it's like if he's the one telling you that you need to do this, it's like, baby, that's like literally having like Cartman give you like, and by, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, oh fuck. - No, it's like we gotta listen to some things on. - Yeah, 'cause it's like, at that point, it's like bitch, the bottom barrel is literally telling you you're fucking up. - And that's like he's like, we, I think what really happened to with movie night is he kind of like established his moral line in the sand. Where it's like, bitch, he plays so goddamn much, he hella disrespectful, the locker room talk bitch, you need to get your butt popped. But like, he drew his line in the sand when he started being like, oh, that ain't right. Like, he saw some clips and said that one's not right though. - Even Bryce, who's like relatively like quiet on set, you know, when like the drama's unfolding, he literally multiple, multiple fucking times kept telling since he's like, bro, just apologize and leave it alone. Take accountability and stop talking. Like, I'm just like, there's something wrong with you. - Yeah, there's something wrong with you. - There's something. - Here's the thing, I wrote something about a nine KC, but I just. - Yes, 'cause they did, they made a men's. - They taught. - They made a men's. And I will say this, like I, you know, I know. KC, like, you know, I understand like his name, like on the phone, like it's wicked in this bitch. Like his name on like the shit that fall out the sky. But like, I did appreciate kind of like the moment that they had, I did appreciate like him having enough awareness specifically to kind of like put voice to what was happening, which is like, I didn't tell you my feelings. So then I got resentful of you, and by the time I was talking about you, it was absolutely disgusting. Like it was just like not good. And just the idea of like, well, and you know, a clock is T of he's still kind of arguing. I'm like, I think you guys were just like talking, but like that's a whole other thing. But I did, I did fuck with that in the sense of, just the last couple episodes being very unsure of like, again, kind of where his character lies ultimately, which is like, do you realize like where these things are coming from? Because I do think that that is like step one. Just like as a human, I'm like, that's step one to be like, okay, I wasn't telling you how I was feeling, which like turned into like, oh, now I'm being really nasty to you for real. And it's like, exactly. Casey, you know, I think when we go back to the line in the cub and the cub still hasn't been formed until like, is he gonna turn into a lion or say a cub? Then this is the choice. It's like, it's literally the two fours in the road, right? It's like, you could be a dog like Corbin, but it's just like, you know, a little bit better of a dog. Or it's like, you can really, and like, void of accountability, void of like, you know, and choose the four in the road that's sincere, which is like, just stay the course. But I do feel like with Casey genuinely, even though really we saw some sinister shit play out in the season for him, I really feel like making them sit and watch and see all the shit they did and say and like, how horrible and ugly and violent sounded was genuinely really good. And it was just like, honestly, I was like, we need to do that more. Because I think for Casey, like, in that moment, he clocked like, I'm not who I think I am. No, and he quite literally said that. Like, he was like, oh, I was watching that. Like, I do not like that guy. Yeah, like, I don't know who that guy is. And I think that lesson is so important for him. Like, you know what I mean? And I have like a lot of hope for him because like, I feel as though in that moment for the first time he was able to just like be like, damn, I really fucked up. I don't know what the fuck that was, but like, that was actually like, really fucking bad. Yeah. And I don't know. Like, Loki have hope for him outside of this villa of like, becoming better and stuff. And also like him and TT Loki are growing on me. Yeah, no, they're sickening together. Like, I think like they really are a good match. And again, like going back to the sentiment that like early days, yes, we were rooting for like a night in KC. But I do think that like in the same way that I think Carl is really good for Anaya. And he's just kind of like, you know, sweet and whatever. I think that like, TT is really good for KC. Yeah. And I think it's like one of those things too where when you really think about actually like the way that the show is in terms of guys remember, they're like real human beings who went through that. Yeah, a lot of people never have the experience of genuinely seeing yourself third person. Like when Melanie was saying that she watched the clip and she felt like she was watching a best friend get hurt. Like, a lot of people will never, because what? We will not have that experience watching herself third person. So like, ever, I think also, I mean, I don't believe anybody's like irredeemable really. And I think that like that is a good, that was like the marker for KC of like, okay, what we gonna do now because you don't see everything and kind of your reaction to that is, what's gonna set you up for the next kind of character development. Again, mind you, 22 years old baby like, yeah, like yes, like yes, for sure. Yeah, I think like, you know, again, it was that fork in the road where he could have gone this sincere route and he could have like really keep like, like, double down, digging his heels in. Like he was and like, really putting his fingers up. But I feel like in that moment, he kind of softened and was like, holy shit, like I need to like, you know, reverse the cycle. And especially because like, I'm sure, obviously, everybody being in echo chambers and also arguably, and that's like a different conversation, but arguably like men probably not having the same kind of like socialization to be very more like introspective, like I imagine a world where you with your bros, like that locker room talk very, like the Corbin the KC and it is like disrespectful and it's like misogynistic undertones. But like if that's your echo chamber, and nobody ever challenges you, also paired with the idea that nobody, none of the people talked about in question will ever hear what you're really saying for real, like in the real world. It's like, of course, you never have that kind of fear stock at the moment where you're like, oh, this is how what I'm saying that I think is just like funny, whatever. is impacting other people and this is how it makes me sound and look. So when you put them in this kind of like Truman show dystopian like you're seeing what you said when you were like off the heady and like laughing too fucking hard and then also the person that you said it about is right there. I'm like if that don't give you ego death like I don't know what, I don't know what genuinely. It's like this thing was like if someone like clipped you up on TikTok and you're like oh you would be bitch when you're with your girls like two way yeah I'm talking about like that guy that didn't text you back and then they like play the clip the next morning you'd be like that what um also I'm just like yeah like again I think Dylan wants to be an OG so bad no shade. I'm I'm I'm I'm growing suspect I'm growing suspect. I have I have a lot of thoughts about Dylan and I'm like I'm not gonna say too much which I also wrote down sorry go ahead no no continue Oregon. I was just gonna say I wrote to and again like there's the little things like maybe Freudian slips for real but I'm just like when he was talking about Kenzie he was talking about some yeah like I want to take it to the end and I'm like when the girls talk about the game like that bitch we're not on big brother you know what I'm saying like what does that mean? There's like there's like a lot going on here with Dylan but what I will say is like I he like again I really do think he wants to be a part of the love island experience like he had FOMO like a motherfucker in the hotel you know yeah he's like put me in coach right um Kenzie you fucked up really badly I feel like you know again and I the enabler but like but like she literally told her low key like that's the most honest and I has been where she was like you really fucked up and like what you did was like fucked up to Kayla but I feel like she like low key let her off a little bit right I'm sorry the quote of this episode that I'm literally every time I look at my notes I literally keep fucking laughing because it's sent the fuck out of me it's like Kenzie it's just at this point you can see the light has left her eyes she is like fed up she's fucking done she played in that polygames and like you know what I mean she raised she was she was doing her like poly not ENM right at all she got caught up a little bit and she does it in the confessional she goes it's not natural to date so many people at the same time no and poly ended poly sound dead miss what about poly pocket because mind you Kenzie you're like here's the thing because we don't want to talk about it I was like low key key king with enya in the DM shadow enya and honestly if we had time I'd like have to throw enya in the ring with us bro I was like key king with enya in the DMs and I was like because we need to talk about her theater arc Kenzie's yeah I need to talk about how she needs to be in the theater bitch also I'm like low key she would kill it as a lesbian as like you know like a little like I'm like I don't know anyways my point being with Kenzie is like I feel like again she learned this really monumental lesson where it's just like you dragged it you dragged it at the end you you dragged it she was dragging it go was dragging it as fuck because it's like yes you can explore but you're only exploring if you're not sure about the person that you're with so it's like you do need to have a little bit again you are more than allowed to explore until you're done right yeah but it's like with the gall of it all it was just like if you were really feeling him like that and it's so late because you're only on there for such like a hyper speed amount of time that it's like you really need to start standing behind your decisions and it's like you told Dylan you only wanted to be with him and then you like randomly just had to like kiss gall which I feel a kiss is like a handshake but I'm just like maybe you lost it a little bit you lost it a little bit and it's like time to get like regrounded yeah a little bit because I get it listen she had to get her oh she was like there's fine assing it's talking to me like period boots but I'm just like listen Ken's my love like you really dragged it with golf well you kind of dragged it and sorry to jump around because it's like Loki the next couple episodes are nothing burger but like when Melanie was like maybe for real my cheese like you weren't done exploring and I know that and I was like exactly because also no shade the second after movie night when all of a sudden Kenzie had to lock in or else she was proven to be lustful when I was like the light left my girl eyes like in the last episode when they did that nothing burger challenge when they just absolutely always do that there's always one there's one episode where they're free in the villa because they did that last year they like randomly did like what was it like a water balloon fight or something I don't know but when she was getting her back rubbed by um Dylan and Carl baby that was Kenzie like she literally was like like I'll do it I'll do it I was like because she's a young hole and here's the thing y'all it's no tea here's the thing this is a thing Kenzie Kenzie Kenzie Kenzie Kenzie lock in with me here lock in with me here because there's an arc for you and the arc is you're not ready for a relationship it's outside the villa like I'm like you're a young hole you're turned up you're fun like you're a key key and like you're not thriving in this situation because they're trying to strap down a hoe that's not ready she's not ready but that's what's fucked up though she needs to be honest too but that's what I mean she needs to be honest about but it's low key the Dylan crying really had her doing with DTM a lot it was like it dragged it for a lot for safe it was a lot for safe it dragged it badly because it's like you've known this girl for five days so it's like stop crying no shade like I let everyone cry and like you're allowed to cry but those years we're like low key you put like fucking like chili oil I know like you're a camp like the fucking like that like like it's just the fact you're sick bro I mean like period but it is just taking up a lot of space for a man who just got here but also like I fear that I fear I fear I fear I fear what's happening in my opinion is like metaphorically she cast the first stone of lustful yeah she was the one that was like you're lustful you're lustful you're lustful now they're reading her for the same metric that she done set well and that's what I mean uh the Corbin vindication bro because it's like Corbin told everyone he was a dog and not gonna stop being a dog and but that was the problem is she kept trying to read Corbin for being a dog but it's like and Gabriel can see your puppies no it's not like it's okay like in the cosmic I don't fear release the judgment because nobody judging you but yeah but now it's like the self-fulfilling prophecy of everyone in that bitch like well you were exploring so how do we know and it's like damn like we weren't even really tripping like you were having fun yeah it's very much so like giving the Salem witch trials but then now you're getting tried as a witch you know what I mean it's just like like goody proctor um here's my problem guys I have a really big problem happening in my villa right now and it's like got me fucked up which is Zach gotta go. Zach has to fucking go and he needs to leave Keta alone and unfortunately they didn't do Zach like I needed them to do him in movie night because they only played his Alana clips what I needed them to play was also all the shit he talks behind the scenes because you could easily pull together all the puppet strings that he's working to see that like Zach fucking play but my problem is and this is like the thing that like Loki like makes me sad is like when Keta brings up like genuinely why would you leave out the fact that like Alana left she didn't leave with like her own free will type shit and he just starts evading the conversation he literally was like well I downplayed it I definitely downplayed the fact that I had a connection that's not downplaying that's literally lying like you're not downplaying your connection you just straight up fucking lie to Keta and then I don't know he's just he genuinely is again this in the same way that like men sincere lies like Zach lies with the same conviction just does it a little smarter you know what I mean like I feel like his manipulative ways are just a little more thought out like he's thought a couple steps ahead versus sincere is like lying fast and having to lie faster and faster as like they start catching up to him but I feel like with Zach it like own like his lies or the way he explains things the way he says things makes just enough sense for Keta to like because they're usually not like full blown out lie yeah but they're like they're not 100% truthful and again like he's just like the hungry caterpillar that could like maybe the insecurity is eating him alive and it's bleeding out the sides and it's eating her too but I just I think at this point though I really feel towards the end I'm noticing especially what happens when they like were in the bottom couples yeah I really feel like that was the moment he noticed like he played the game too much for real well and people aren't fucking with him because also I mean yes like the gameplay and all that but like if I was just gonna read him as like just like a person who's there on good faith I'm like it's just so apparent to me that it's like this never ending like void of like affirm me affirm me like I need like your commitment to me your commitment to me but baby you're also not you're not the prize you're not the prize number one and number two you're not like actually exercising vulnerability to like meet her where you want her to meet you which is like he's like taking up all this space like in like America doesn't fuck with me and it's because like I'm like the bad person it's like that it's like bitch you're it's it's you're doing it's your bottomless pit my like we can't give you all the validation eventually you just gotta be like this my fucking judge and this is what's happening like even with like the Alana situation it's like arguably and again I'm reading this in like a good faith like I'm not reading as a producer playing because that's a different conversation but like if you were confident enough and yourself and your connection to just be like, "Hey, there was this girl there." She got pulled out, but it was you, type shit, like how he should have without the like lying. It would have been a, obviously, completely different conversation, but he like does that, he does that manipulative shit. - But that's what I'm saying, it's the puppet string. It's like everything that he does in this villa is ammo against Kate, exactly. Like he's constantly looking for ammunition. He's constantly, like that's why he always has such a pulse on what's happening in the villa. He's constantly seeking out information and ammunition to literally in the same way since he was like, "But look what you do with Corbin." Yeah, he does that so quick with Kate and I feel like at this point, why he was so like, like you could feel his anxiety up to here is 'cause it's like, "Bitch, there is no ammunition on Kate up because Kate is literally security down." Like she's literally the most secure person ever. - And that's how you, and that's the thing is like, the mirror is so fierce on him where it's like, you're doing all this like loopy round like, oh and then, but don't you think and like, "Do you guys think I'm a good put?" And it's like, Kate literally saying they're like, "I know, she's in there like, I know it means I love her." Love how she loses her voice every episode. But she's in there like, I know it means I have like, I don't like what-- - Well, and that's what I mean, I don't know. - She'd be folding fast for him, but like I don't blame her because again, like she just doesn't fully have the optics. - Right, she doesn't have the optics. And when you're the secure one low key, like you know just be like, I know he's just a little like, you know, whatever, but it's like, "Girl, if you're willing to like, feed into that every single day, then period." - Also, I am weak at Katea for talking to Kenzie in a real ass way and saying that-- - Real ass way. - She's like, low key giving sincere. And I was like, that is the truth that she did need to hear. - So I know it hurt. - I know it hurt and I know it's hard to hear. And like, again, I think with sincere, there's like a sinister energy to it. Like I'm not saying she's full blown like-- - Yeah, absolutely not. - Yeah, so I know. But I'm like, the going behind the backs and like telling someone one thing, like telling Caleb this, doing another thing with Corbin, telling Dylan this, telling Gal this. - The same thing. - You wanted to have a form. Now you want to be a surfer girl in California. - You want to move to LA and like look at a coffee show. It's like, right, right. - So it's just like, you know what I mean? Like she is the CEO of like, same as sincere, like just telling people-- - Well, they be spinning the fantasy. That's what they both do. They be doing the like, I want to bring you home and like I want it. And it's like, you don't really have to say that part. - Yeah, and that's what I mean. Like again, like I feel like with Kenzie though, there's a little, there's nuance there because A, I do think like, she what she's probably feeling is like, I don't know, maybe slut-shamed. I don't know, maybe lust-shamed. But like the thing is there, I do think that like, with sincere, it's like as a man, you could get away. You like, what does a slut mean to a man other than like positive, you know what I mean? Where it's like, it's like-- - Other than like, big Brody. - Yeah, it's like positive connotation. Where it's like, I feel like when you, the first time you get called a slut as a girl, it like does something to you where you like, low-key, like start, like a lot of people start going to church, like. - Well, and it literally, yeah, anyway. - And I hope not, but-- - Y'all mind if I skip over Caleb and Jaden doing whatever the fuck they're doing? - I don't give, like, Jaden-- - It don't matter. - I'm so sorry, Jaden. - It don't matter. - But like, no shade, sister, I don't give a fuck. - It's just a lot for say, if it's a lot for say. - Yeah, and also I'm just like Caleb, you're sweet, but like, you're not cut out for reality TV, my love. - Yeah, because you-- - Go home. - 'Cause he doesn't have that dog. He doesn't have, like, even the fact that he was, like, too scared to like tell Jaden T, like, stand on any business. - Yeah. - And then Jaden, like, randomly, like, turning up. Y'all, I'm like, girl, it's nothing. - It's nothing. - Me, Dr. Orna, talking about some, like, tone is everything, because I was like, see how y'all could have this exact same conversation just talking regular, but we're yelling, so it's like. - Well, and also, too, I'm like, KC, I need to tweak your language a little bit, because when he was talking to the-- - Oh, it's too weak. - He was like, you know, I, that was a really good conversation with Anaya. I feel like she was more receiving. Well, I do think you did actually apologize for the first time. - Yeah. - And, yes, she was more receiving, because you actually apologize for the first time. - Yeah, and it's like, we go and get that little link and then it's up, but again, like, 22, I don't know what more I can say about that. - Also, I'm like, again, Anaya, please. Everyone, Trinity, Kate, my love's every single person in this villa. Please stop telling Melanie to fucking try it out with sincere, because the conversation that they're having, where they literally keep fucking saying to Melanie, where they literally go, I mean, at the end of the day, you gotta do what's good for you. And if it's trying it out with sincere, then like, hear him out. - There's nothing to fucking hear about. - And mind you, and mind you, and mind you, and mind you, because it was big, like, oh, are we team sincere, not until sincere, did his big post cheating? Like, yay, his post cheating, he made her pancakes, and like, eight outside with her this time. Like, we need to be so serious, we need to be serious, that it's like, baby, if he wanted to do that, he would have been done doing that. Like, I fear we're doing the thing where it's like, now he's doing his big one, like, I made you pancakes outside, and it's like, you've been here for like four weeks. Like, shut the fuck up, literally no one gives a fuck. - Him bringing them pancakes, and all the girls are like, oh my God, he's changing. - Baby, that's what it's always-- - He would always-- - He would always-- - That's literally, like, don't worry, baby, like, rock-a-bye, baby. - No, that's the worst kind of cheater, because it's a broken-by-lotto cheater. If genuinely, if you're gonna cheat on me, and then you're gonna, like, bring something back, bitch, it better be a G-wagon. Don't play with me. - Well, he doesn't have the resources, he would bring her a G-wagon, but they're just not on the outside of you, so it's hard. - It's just like, whatever. - It's just hard. - But also, I'm just, like, genuinely aniah. This is where I, like, have to tell you, like, is starting to get harmful for real. - It's-- - It's-- - Because-- - Yes. - This is at the point where it's, like, sincere doesn't think he's toxic. He literally said, we've had toxic moments, but we're not toxic. Bitch, if it's talked-- Okay, let's do this, let's do this. Let's do this. - And again, that's why I'm, like, is he simply just, like, a Buddhist practitioner and we don't know? Like, I don't know. - This is-- if, since here, if you want an analogy, let me give you one, right? - Right, he loves those. - If you have a glass of water and you put toxic shit in the water, not a lot, but just, like, moments of toxic, like, okay, maybe four drops, right? Can you drink that water? Or is it fucking toxic water? Are you probably going to end up in the hospital or, like, on some, like, you know, a breathing tube because you drink that fucking water? - And it's just, like, hilarious because, again, like, we're here because of you. - Yeah. - Like, it's just so-- and again, I'm genuinely not joking when I'm asking myself, like, genuinely, are you practicing Buddhism? Like, the way that he taught-- I'm serious, like, the way that he talks about this is almost, like, enlightened. It's honestly almost enlightened, like, the way that he's able to kind of, like, stop gap himself from even something that happened two hours ago and be, like, that was the past. I've learned my lesson, I step forward into the future. I'm like, you started to sound like my morning meditations. Like, you really are. But what's crazy about it is it's, like, again, in the track record of it all, you do that, though. And then you fully redo that, though. So it's like, if that was really the case and after soul, I think we should have learned something from that. But unfortunately, we didn't, and now he's making pancakes and everyone's glazing him. So it's just, like-- - It's just, like, fucking annoying as fuck. Also, the shit that has me, we get fuck holding one rose. And then Melanie being like, ah, baby girl, please, stand on anything. - You don't want it, you don't want it, though. - And it's unfortunate. - Also, I'm like, yeah, this is just tripping. That's not a fucking day. Like, your shit, like, genuinely is, like, so sorry. Jen, come and get your baddy change. She just was honestly sending me this episode 'cause she had just kind of accepted defeat about the fact that, like, Gaul's a POS. - Which we already knew. - Hated that the men were the recouplers. Hated that. - Dude, just hated that. - Oh my God. - Shut the fuck up. - Well, the immediate, like, karmic reaction, or maybe not karmic, 'cause he, you know, he's allowed to do whatever. He could have gagged it whatever. But, like, the immediate, just, like, satisfaction as a viewer of, like, perfect, you chose her. Now, you know what, fuck it. Let's get all y'all out of here. - Yeah. - Literally, fuck it. Actually, boom, boom, boom, boom. Let's get out of here. And also, can I say, with that recoupling, and then, like, putting the hearts and people's thing, y'all are cowards. Y'all are cowards on this program, because there's absolutely no way. And, again, do we want to talk about, y'all might be ill, but y'all turn into trill, honestly, because Parmita and Corbin having, like, the big, baddie balls, the big, baddie balls, to be, like, obviously least compatible, is sincere and Melanie bitch. She was, like, you deserve better. He's toxic as fuck. What are we even talking about? - And also, also, they were, like, y'all are good people individually, not good together. Period, and literally, Parmita literally dead ass. And this is where, honestly, Parmita, come get your baddie chain for me. For real, is where Parmita dead ass says, listen, I'm just talking to Melanie, how I would talk to my best friend. Thank you. - You would think her best friends would do, like, I understand that there's this idea of, like, okay, she might get dumped, but it's just, like, so we're not gonna be honest. We're just not gonna be honest. And I guess that's what we're doing. - But that's what I mean, genuinely, and same reason why, since you're in Melanie, or never in the bottom couples, everyone loves Melanie too much to see her go home. - Maybe if you love her, let her go, but they will not, they will not, they do not think she gets deserves to be kicked out of that. - Well, great, now look, y'all done, y'all let him do her like that, movie night y'all, all watched what we watch, type shit, and again, sure. I'm not saying, like, again, if she wants to go be with him, then, like, sure. But arguably, if you keep her in on an island, no phone, no friends, no family, like, her only connection, there is sincere, and now everybody in the background, like, I mean, if you want to, maybe you should say hi, genuinely, to them, they've viewed as a loyalty thing, and not, like, looking out for her best in life. - But it's stupid. - I'm not like that. - No, it's stupid. Also I do have to highlight that when Jen, like Gal made Jen pancakes and then he didn't have it, then he didn't put maple syrup. And she was like, it's 'cause he wants that shit healthy. (laughing) - I was like, bitch, drag him. - No, Jen's troll. - Because I was no, Jen is like way too fucking troll. She's like, absolutely gorgeous, but that shit sent the fuck out of me because that is true. Like, Gal is one of those people. It's like, no maple syrup for you, bitch. - Right. - And it sent me so bad. - Also a more randomly airing out Jen, I don't know. - Anyway. (laughing) Kenzie and Dylan dumping Permita and Corbin for being lustful there. It is again, lustful, lustful, lustful, #ironic, and then Permita hit the nastiest, most disgusting Uno reverse card I've ever seen in my life. I'm not saying she right, but I'm saying she gonna get us this Emmy for real when she was like y'all thinking we're lustful 'cause we're sexy is crazy. - All do you want better? (laughing) - Permita, literally hugging Kenzie and she was like, you need to let that shit go for real. Thank you. - That was very Natalie Nant. - That was literally fair. - She was like, listen little girl. - No, very little, that actually gagged me so nasty 'cause I was like, and again guys like, when I said before the Permita and Corbin are perfect for each other, this is what I'm talking about. Because what can we expect from Corbin's partner other than to get it there and feel like, well, just 'cause we're hot and we work out, we talk about other things like that is crazy. - When she said that, I was like, you know what? Y'all kinda right. - No, I was like, y'all kinda clock is up. - It's like lustful. - Well, 'cause everyone, you know, is keeping it PG, but I'm like every night they do fuck, and I'm just like, that's part of the nighttime routine, babe. Like if you were in a normal relationship, like, it's part of the nighttime routine like if we don't get the night in. - Yeah, yeah. - It's like how we gonna go to bed. - They have that physical, they have that physical. - It's literally like hitting the vibrator before bed, but it's like, it's the same shit, but it's just like they got each other. - But they got each other and it's like whatever. So like, God's be y'all, God's be. - You know, Parmita and Corbin, like, they cute. - They cute. - They do, they, the pot for the lid. It's really truly just the pot for the lid. You don't have to like the pot, and you don't have to like the lid, but maybe the pot and the lid. Like, they go together real bad. They go together real bad. - Here's the thing. It's just like, also, I think this is where Corbin ate the fuck down, is where he literally said when he picks and see her. He was like, I low-key lost trust in you, bro, because not only did you lie to Melanie so crazy, you lied to the boys. - And he was in the front line. - And that's where I'm like, honestly, he ate the fuck out of that, because it's like, you did hella lie to the boys, bro. - No, you did, and again, that's where I'm like, Corbin draws the line in the sand, which is like, he is a boy in the sense that like, okay, so when it was disrespecting the girls, he didn't give a fuck, but when it's disrespecting the boys, he literally was like, you see this line right here? This is brotherhood. - You fucking crossed it, no, literally. And he was right. And like, again, sincere again, is he Buddhist or is he just delusional? We will not know, because Corbin told him that immediately. Yes, so I understand. And actually, like, I've changed. And like, I get it, I'm an honest man now. I'm like, huge of true. Absolutely so huge if he like, went to sleep, woke up, decided the time is now and like, took it in the name of presence. Absolutely huge. But Corbin being the one to sit sincere down and be like, no, I don't think you understand. Like, when you lied to us, you had us out here looking fucking foolish. - Yeah, yeah. - Oh, okay. And also, I think Melanie is like, sincere and Melanie hitting the lick on Kenzie. And then Melanie, literally doing the last alley hoop, which is also like, if Dylan wasn't there, you would have kept exploring. Because let's talk about it in eighth, okay. Because she's like, maybe she's like, look, he lobotomized right now. Like, I know she's going through a lot in terms of like, she's getting a lot of critiques. She's getting a lot of critiques right now. And I'm sure that's really hard for her to hear. But like, ultimately, baby, we saw the light leave the second that man cried and hugged you. And she disassociated, been disassociated ever since. - Yeah. - So now we're on episode 28. And it's just like, we, I think we're getting like a call in for episode 28 just to like really, you know, talk about what happened last night. Oh, 29. Oh, and it's like 30. Oh, and it's like 30, you know what I mean? - Oh wow. - Right, and 29 and 30. Well, for 29 and 30, we do have a special guest, you know, we had to phone somebody in because it's just like, how much can we do by ourselves? Do you know what I mean? - And we have someone boots on the ground in Fiji. - Boots on the ground, and we're gonna get a call in. - What is going on and just feeling God awful. - And we're just feeling God awful that they even have to be there seeing all of this. 'Cause it's just like in a ride. - But we did get kicked out like after midnight. - We did. 'Cause we were like kind of fucking fights in here. So it's just like, I don't know. But yeah. - All right, guys. - We had to call, it's just like, it gets to a point where you just need to actually like call back into the island and like, make sure everyone's okay. - We had to get with our correspondent, Tanner. - Tanner, Tanner, welcome to the villa. - Thank you. Thanks for holding it down. - While we had to go. - Thanks for holding it down. - Yeah, I got called in like a weird predicament because they actually needed a body double for a gall just in case Jen threw him through a table. - Right. - So I was supposed to be in the video. - Right. - But I was left. - Right, we saw your location. And we were kind of like, what? But like, it's okay, yeah, we knew something was a foot. I didn't one screen time like that. But yeah, I'm keeping an eye on everything and it's been interesting. We'll just say that. - All right, so it has been very interesting. - It's like trying to impress Fiji trade right now. - Well, and apparently trying to impress like musical trade because like, for some reason, all of a sudden here we are like episode 29 and we're doing like, carry okay. And it's just like, I don't-- - Kind of live, though. - Kind of lives, but kind of lived for the producer that was making the song choices being shady as fuck because since here in Melanie doing grease, talking about you better, shape up. Well, he's grease for sure, but I just was frustrated that that song of all songs. And I mean, it's really a tragedy in itself because I feel like grease like after a living Newton-John pass, we just need to leave that whole franchise alone. - Like, let's go ahead and let, yeah. - And let it rush in. - Let it rush in. - And let go. She sort of got unfaithful by Rihanna, but whatever. - Yeah. - That's a whole other question. - I just feel like they sensed a little bit of like, gay in the air going on at the villa and they said, what better way to bring that out and force it out than a musical feeder challenge. - I did notice that. - Right, I did notice that. - And it was very sickening. Like, it was very cute and like, la da da. I think just like as the girl who is jaded as fuck, I was like, why y'all smiling? Like, I literally was like, what's funny? - Actually, what's funny in here? What's funny? - Well, and that was a thing too. I feel like in the top of like episode 29, where Kenzie's like talking to Dylan and she's just like, I just feel like Melanie really came for me. Like, I don't understand why I got got when like, I feel like Melanie's one of my best friends in the villa and like, why is she like talking ill on me like that? And I was just like, again, I just feel like Kenzie be dishing it, but she can't take it. She's like, can't take the accountability. She can't hear it like. - And I know it. - Well, and when, Jen, your best friend? Jen was your best friend. - Right, when's your best friend? When she was here and then she left. So it's like, right, yeah. - But also, but also the real T is, she wanted the farm, but then the surfer life, and then it's just like, whatever Dylan do. So it's just, yeah. - It's like, what does Dylan do? - Well, girl, I mean shit. She was bored as hell with golf because he was like, I can offer you barista. It's like, actually, and like, there's nothing against, you know, blue hair barista. Like, I'm all for that, obviously. - Oh, right. - We're a fan. - I know, I got a shift later. I got a shift. - Well, I'm like, and my friend does have the bus down his personal machine. So it's like exactly. - Well, and then I was weak as fuck when they flipped back to Melanie and Melanie talking just sincere and sincere is like, well, I don't know. I feel like she was moving crazy and Melanie's like, you're not the right person to be clocking it. - Actually, you should be silent as long as you can starting now. Silent game, like, let's play the silent game. - Okay, Melanie has a tendency of saying the most intelligent thing in the villa. And I feel like for so long, everyone said, well, that's Baya. Baya needs to be there because she's the only person that can talk to everybody. No, Melanie has her producer hat on. And yeah, she really is like the guardian that stepped up because she's looking after everyone. And she's catching Kinsey on her blind side right now. What is amazing to me though, everyone says that she's so like catching the girls and keeping the girls accountable. And she can never do it to herself. I know I was, you know, I just got flown in for movie night. So it was a little bit shaky for me. I'm like, I'm quite here. But she didn't know all these things. You know, she really didn't know to the degree that we knew. We knew it all, right? And I think of course, you know, when you hear the demons and you really think the demons are true, sometimes you guys shake it out too. I'm just feeling insecure right now. But like, literally Melanie's gut, the owl. She's had her intuition so present about herself and others. She just doesn't do it for herself 'cause she's like, I don't know. But she knows what Kinsey, she's like Kinsey year. - She can see it, she can see it. And I just, I do want her to see it for herself because it really hurts me to see somebody say exactly what's happening in the sense that she keeps being like, and they can see that I'm the girl that's going back. And I was like, 'cause she knows, but then the problem is too, I feel like it really doesn't help that if the girls weren't standing on business alongside her and weren't just enabling her and being like, oh my gosh. You know what, Melanie? Yeah. - She's pretty sincere. But I'm like, if you're a training team sincere, like I literally feel like she said it in the confessional, she was like, I am like teetering one way where it's like, should I pick this or should I pick that? And the girls keep like, literally a nice like big sincere tattoo that she showed us. I was just like, bitch, it's like, it's really giving like, a no. - And it hurts too because I feel her reaching out and I get her in the sense of like, I'm also the girl that be like, do you guys think I should cut my hair? Wait, would you you think I should cut my hair? my hair, and do you think I should cut like I'm very that girl and we're working on it. But when she went to Corbin and she was like, do I sleep in the bed with him? Do I done it? And Corbin was like, I can't really tell you what to do. I was like-- I promise it honestly. I hear you. No. And you are valid. Here's top five steps of sleeping in the bed tonight. Right. Like keeping it with the props, right? No. And yeah. So frustrating. And I feel like with Melanie too, I was just talking about this with one of my friends, one of the crew, the catering crew. Right. I was talking with them, and I said, honest to God, if Melanie would have left movie night in that moment in Hunger Games, I volunteer tribute. I would rather go home single alone than stay in this couple. I get that. But I really think the only reason she's staying, well, there's like a glimmer of hope that America likes them because of the karaoke voting, which we can get to. We'll get to that. But it's almost through. But it's like the glimmer of hope that America likes them. She's like, I'm going to stay around because I want to be in the competition. I feel like the second that the show's over, we'll get to that. We're going to see Tee, but I don't know if he has that much fear standing on. I don't know. She's standing on that much business. I feel like the eye is dying right now, but like, that's what I in a dream world. A dream. A dream scenario she would have packed her. But it's a nightmare. Gone. I think I give them by the reunion genuinely. Well, no, it's Tee. I feel like by the time it's the reunion, I'm really curious to see where everyone stands because it's like once the outside voices start talking, once she sees how bad it was with sincere and like this, that in the third, I truly feel like she is going to come to a sense of consciousness. It's just not going to happen in the villa because again, the validation that she's receiving that like this relationship isn't as bad as we see it is or she feels like it feels like it is. But again, when movie night happened and then I was like, we'll see, at least you know, you're not crazy. And she was like, bitch, I knew I wasn't crazy. I was living it like that's when I was just like, again, the enabling like everyone's getting bamboozled by the only fucking manipulative ass bitch, which is fucking sincere for real. She needs to derlion like she needs the derlion to stop by and have a Ted talk with her because it's just like you are only as good as the people you keep around you to and everybody's telling you you're good. You're good. You're good. Then y'all plan. I'd rather be alone. No, I would rather be alone, but that's a whole other thing, but that's a whole other conversation. And yeah, sincere literally saying like we have toxic moments, like bitch, it's toxic. Sincerely. Melannie doing karaoke and all of a sudden that's the saving grace because and I'm jumping a little bit forward. But the concept of Melanie being like, well, because usually when I day guys, they don't get to see that side of me like they don't get to see that side of like, okay, so he's all the smiling, but he also saw you crying throwing up yelling, shrieking, I'm not sure what to do. Just all fucked up. I'm like, I don't sing and shimmy my shoulders a lot with a man like, yeah, on your too busy screaming and arguing. Yeah, that's pretty hard. Well, and also, I'm like, what because you hit the floor on your knees like that's so sorry. Talking about karaoke because somehow karaoke turns into we don't even want to get into girlfriend fiance. I'm like curious. If it's like a 51st date situation where he really has like short term memory loss for real, because when Casey was like, sincere, like, did you really forget like all that shit you did? And sincere, serious, like with all the conviction in the world in his chest. He said, yeah, like, yes. Well, he's going to have fun at the reunion when he has ghost of Christmas past, present, and future, setting in front of him. They're really because it's like, let's just go ahead and go through his phone. Fuck it. Hey, fuck it. Let's go ahead and go through his phone. I mean, soul. You're going to see the steam coming off her head like it's literally about to be so serious because it's just, I mean, and I'm going to say like I understand that soul's been a hot topic of conversation. Like, she's not even in the villa anymore. She's been gone for damn three weeks, right? And we're still talking about her, but it's like, I really feel like to see in the aftermath that you would watch movie night and be like, yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. Mama confused. That's actually like you stained to me, like you were so there, like your whole spirit was there. That's not just a man acting with his deoc. That's a man like spiritually present in all of these relationships. And why was I saying that because dare I say that like sincere is honestly like in a form of spiritual alignment, like tone, evil in the sense that the way he's able to ground himself in the present girl, fuck the past, fuck the future is actually like at its core, it's kind of sick thing. Like I'm like the way how he literally does things two seconds later, he's like, what are you talking about? I'm right here right now, babe. He be looking at every girl, like I'm literally here right now. And if it was up to me, like you're literally the mother of my children. The next day, he's like the past was the past. And I'm here in the present. And actually you're the mother of my children bug too, Kenzie caught that bug too. Kenzie caught that bug. Baby. Because it's contagious. Well, and that's what I mean because I'm like when it turns into Corbin, the one who's like riding people's wrong, like Corbin's the one who's studying you straight, it's like we're fucked. We're fucked. And it's like every time somebody gains sentience and starts popping butts immediately out the villa immediately. Immediately. It's delusional island and baby we go make sure it stays delusional. Well, I'm like saying with like, well, when Kenzie was like, you really hurt my feelings? Like I just felt like you were my best friend and Melanie was like, really? Bitch, you stopped talking to me when Seoul came around. You literally didn't check in on me once, like bitch, you play, but also no judgment, no tea, no shade. It's no tea and it's no shade, but it's like, stop playing with it. What's I got to do with T.I.? Yeah. What does it have to do with T.I.? Everybody keeps saying that like Kenzie is awful and horrible and she does a splits too much. And I agree with two of those things, right? But I really feel like there's an issue that I hear her out when she's like, I'm just here to play the game. Because I think that to a factor, right, I think that there's a way to go about it and there's a way to be open and honest, number one, we're too late in the season to play the game right now. The game's been played, right? The game's been played. It's shut down. It's foreclosed. We need to stop. So she's too late for that. What I don't like though, you can tell when somebody, for lack of a better word, turns stupid in the conversation to shake accountability off themselves. Yeah. And what I notice is she starts talking to, no, what's the guy's name, Dylan. She starts talking to Dylan and you see her eye start to drift. And she's glossy looking and she's just like, because he starts calling her out. And she's like, I don't know. And it's what's crazy is she puts that on, she's smart enough to put that on, right? Yes. And tears like, since he was like, I don't know what I did. He's like here. Laterally. Where Kinsey's like, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know who I, I don't think I told him I want to see the farm with him. I don't think I did that because we got the place on you. That was crazy. Yeah. That was really, that was really nasty. And I hate to see her go through that. And arguably, I'm sorry, but like if I was going to listen to my gut, I'm just like, again, we were just saying this before, before we called in, but like, she's a young hoe. Like y'all trying to tie her down to this man, like she, we saw the light leave her eyes. The second she like was damn near, like everybody was like, you're lustful, you're lustful. And she was like, just kidding, Dylan, actually, like it's always been you bitch and they hit that hug and she literally like, that's when her eyes started drifting, baby. It's very like she's not locked in as she is reality TV evil. And I'm like, I'm speaking it so real because in the same way she's got that drift in her eyes, he's got manipulator and that's what I was saying. That's what I was like dead. I sang about Dylan. Like there's, there's a reason why you can feel his energy through the screen. Like he makes me feel so uncomfortable every time he's on screen. And the way he positions himself with the boys, like he really, really wants to be an OG, like he acts like he was day one, they're happy. He costs like he goes, he costs the boys. There's only one cost a more nigga, like you, you OG, nothing, you, you're not, you're just simply not OG. You don't remember half the cost of boys names. We don't remember half the cost of boys names. So I'm like, congratulations on lasting through the cut. I about called you Zach for a second to go. That says anything. And we know you're not gone because I know he's my twin, but he's not looking right. So I mean, my God, I have the accountability on that, right? But with Dylan, what's frustrating the shit out of me is the tears, the tears, the tears, the tears. A lot of emotion for safe. Baby. No, literally a lot of emotion for safe. And it's just like, I know we're trying to create a reality, reality like TV moment, but we got Chad G.B.T. Crying. We don't give a fuck if the boy from Bath and Body Works cries. I don't give a damn. And you're crying over a girl that, no, we don't. We don't really give a fuck about like that. Well, because we know Kenzie and you coming in here, and this goes to the conversation that they had later, just like jumping around for real. But like, it kind of got to a point to where it's like, yes, Dylan at first, you kind of got your look and sure, like you, you're shook up because she kissed Gal when she said it's you like, okay, I totally understand that and I have space for that eventually though and by the end of last night's episode where genuinely he keeps, can we talk again? Can we talk again? Like, it's just like, I don't trust you, I don't trust you, I don't trust you. And like, I fear again, at the end of the day, I am going to stand by my girls. But like. We do not care. We do not care. And it's also like, so at what point, because baby, you knew her tea, you walked in, you already saw the edit, you walked in, you knew her tea, she do the, she do the clam slam and the kiss is the handshake. And she said what she said, and she said it again, in front of everybody, she don't give a fuck. So I'm kind of just like, again, to this, like, the question of vulnerability, like the question of like, if we were really dating in the real world, it's like, eventually, you're going to have to be like, that's my girl, that's her past, and I'm choosing to trust [BLANK_AUDIO] 'cause ain't nothing she can say. I am a for real or that's gonna lend itself to the fact that y'all have four days. Did you know you have 20 minutes? That's going to like heal this like, well, I just don't trust you because like, what if, what if, what if, what if it's like, maybe when you start what if thing. But I, oh, sorry, please don't know. Please turn your seat. I feel like I have more issues of the way she treats the girls than I do the guys. Fuck the guys. I don't care how she treats that. I feel like as a woman in the friendships, a lot of the friends, I saw her moving away that I've seen before that I'm like, you're moving in a weird way. That's my only issue with her. Yeah. If she shades the guy from Casa that we met, oh, we could go by talking to another man that we met and we could go, I don't give a fuck. She's gonna go home anyway. We don't give a fuck. Like I'm just, they won't let her go. They won't let her go. Oh, hell no. 'Cause they're like, we have an immunity, we have an immunity for anyone in here who can dance and do the splits. Anyone, anyone like girl, y'all played. Well, they said Corbin and Permita home. I was genuinely so fucking mad. Well, in the part that had me weakest shit, I was just mad in the sense that like, ATP, it should have been U-Kans, 'cause it's like, I'm sorry, low-key, it's just like no shade, but like you and Dylan, when it comes down to wool, and that's what had me weakest fuck, is when they were like, all right, so stand beside who you would save. And then Kenzie asked, okay, guys, so if it was me and Dylan up there, would you have stood beside me? And they said, baby, we're not gonna imagine it. We're not gonna speculate. Yeah. 'Cause you're not gonna like the answers and you're gonna be shocked. Because I'm like, I'm like, you already know the boys are saving Corbin, don't play. Oh, the boys were supposed to, and honestly, the most sinister, there it is again, like sincere, stir part of that fucking vote. Like I was actually in my bed hot as hell America. I never trust you on the polls. How about that? Any poll, really, but like we can get into that and like make sure you're registered to vote, and like, let's just like lock in for a second. When they said that Melanie and Sincere were safe, and I saw the exhale relief from both of them, I was like, I'm sorry, we're done. At this point, next vote should be who the fuck it, who should win? Fuck it, who should win? Because the way how they took that and they were like, oh my God, I did see movie night and I did see all those clips, but like America knows that like we're meant to be together. No, Melanie. I'm also wrong, people that ask, honey. Wrong people that ask. Because when I was seeing edits on TikTok talking about boys, if we all rally together, we could save KC and Tisha. You don't even know what's going on here. I'm like, you don't even know what's going on. More so, I'm like, Melanie, they're saving you 'cause they like you. They don't like you, Sincere. They just don't want to see you go home. No shade, but that's how everyone's voting. They're like, no 100%. They're not voting to keep you like Sincere and you as a couple in the villa. They're literally voting to keep you there, babe. That's why I'm like, if we loved her enough, we wouldn't let her go. 'Cause now look what we've done. They all kept up Zach and Keta, all the girls wanted Keta to stay. Girl. 'Cause it was gonna be cut. No, literally, they were all like, the girl is what's pulling the weight. I think the same way with Kinsey. I think the girl is pulling the weight. Whereas like, we want to see more of the girl because they're so excellent, right? Exactly. I really am getting so frustrated at everyone, they're awareness of like being perceived the villain this season. Because I'm like, that was not a factor. I mean, it just might be the amount of time they've been there, right? But like, that was not a factor, week one, week two, week three, right? When even somebody like TT can have a redemption arc. Right. I mean, that's when I want to say God bless the USA. Because everyone wanted her dead. They were literally like, you need to hide when you get to the airport CT 'cause you're going home tomorrow. And now I had tears on my eyes. Yeah. When they had a group hug and she talked about not having a lot of friends back home. I'm like, this is tearing me up. Like, the girls are the heart of this season. And the boys are committing unspeakable terror on society. Yes. And that's what I mean. Like literally with Cata and Zach and them being in the bottom. And then like literally Zach just like fucking gaslighting that whole situation. And then for him to literally gaslight that whole situation so that Cata's like at bay for a second, but he needs to go lay down, face down, hide his head under a pillow and cry. Because he knows damn well when they play back the tapes he's fucking cooked. And like, oh man. I mean, he is just genuinely to me. Like he's making me age, man. He's literally watching him on this fucking show is making me age. And it's just like I feel like with Cata, she's almost like America hates me and like America's in fuck with me. I'm like bitch, it's so niche. It's your man. It's your man. I would say 99. Besides Kenzie, 'cause she's consistently been in the bottom, you know, when it was her and Corbin, she was in the bottom. It was her and Dylan, she was in the bottom. So it's like they're giving like the wear and tear. - And do you know what I mean? - Yeah. She's exhausted. - She's exhausted. - She's exhausted. - I'm just feeling god awful. - I know, I mean, she needs to sleep. She just needs to like hit a melatonin. Honestly, she needs like some nowadays or something like 5 milligram THC gummy in life. - 'Cause they know their picture. There's a picture of the lady working at Walmart and it's like they work the hell out of her. - She can barely smile. Like that's her right half of that is public. - They're on our house. - She's working well right now. - They are, but I'm just like, yeah, I don't know. And then it's like with Keta, the whole Keta situation, I'm like baby girl, I'm like no shade at all, but Zach is playing like you don't know. The Zach you think you know is not the Zach that you think you know. - It just goes the show too. You can be that fine and still be that insecure. And that's what's crazy to me. Not even on Keta, not even on Keta, because I think he's given every reason for Keta to be insecure, unfortunately. But these little jokes of, I love you, I was kidding. I would never say that. - 'Cause he don't have the dog in him to actually stand up and get hurt. Like he's doing everything he can to make sure he's not gonna get, I'm not, I did it, baby. - I could never do a couple. Like I could never be in a couple for real. Like boyfriend girlfriend, I could never do that. You've been with the same girl for 20 weeks besides when you were with Ms. Twitter. That's the only time that you took a different, you know, venture, which thank God, I will just say, when they brought her footage up, I screamed to the rooftops, I was so grateful. - Well, we already knew, we just grateful. - It was just grateful. - We already knew her shit was fucked up. - Right. - But the thing is when it, even came to that, like what do you mean that's not your girlfriend, bro? Like, well, yeah. - I mean, I understand the sentiment of like wanting to date, but it's like, you're with Ms. backdrop. - Yeah, I'm just like, you're already exclusive. So why are you like drilling the nail in the coffin that it's like, you're not my girlfriend, but when we get out of here, we're leaving together. No shit, you're already told her that, right? - Okay, when you check those DMs and those snapchats on Zaxophone when you get out the villa, oh boy. I wanna, the Reaper is coming out, honey, she is going to be scary. You know those t-shirts with the fucking skeleton with the flames and they're on the motorcycle? She's about to look like that. Because, honey, you think he's acting good in the villa? He has no girls to go to. Wait till you see that phone, because he's got a broad, but he's got fish and chips. It's about to be horrible. I feel so bad for her. - And that's why to like, to the girlfriend, that's why I hesitated because I will say, Kate, it was a real bitch for being like, well because obviously we should know each other outside the villa. 'Cause I'm like, let's get into the, and y'all know I love Brindity. It's, I love Brindity, absolutely do. Do I subscribe to the girlfriend and boyfriend on Love Island? I was just like a girl who's sitting here like 27, just like, not in Fiji and not like with lights in my eyes? No, I subscribe to it for the narrative of like, maybe those are the winners. - I subscribe to it in the sense that like, they're already so vulnerable and real with each other, that them deciding to be boyfriend and girlfriend, I think would work. Because of how like emotionally open they are. Again, are they like, I, yes, would love for them to be together forever and always. But I think also they would have the emotional maturity to like get outside of the villa and real life. - And handle some shit. - Yeah, and be like, oh shit, okay, actually it doesn't work, but it's like no shade on Tina, like it's no shade on Tina Burner. But I feel like if it came down to like, Zach and Katea, I'm just like, that felt so manipulative to me because it's like, then why are you having the conversation? Like the conversation should have literally just been like, hey, I want you to know that like when we like get outside of this, like I want us to like continue on together. But even Katea said that she was like, I already know that if I were, we were to leave the villa, like no one would have stood beside us, that we would be leaving together. - Together. - So that conversation is almost like another ammunition thing of him being like, well, you're not my girlfriend. But it's like fully the validation fishing, which is what he does every time he's like, I love you, just kidding, just kidding. It's the validation fishing of like, no, like I really do like you. It's like, just be like, I really like you. Just be like, hey, you know, I'm really fucking with you like when we get out of this. Like I hope that we can like, still see each other. - I don't know if he got post-nut clarity when they woke up after that night or what, but something scared him. And I, it's just like, it's like insane. Like he literally scares himself and he's so insecure that he can't just be like, oh, well, she's literally sitting here just like my girl. - He lost his mystique and hear me out. You know when you have an intimate night with someone and the next morning you can disappear and not answer the phone for a little bit and go have your solo couple days, re-watch, reset, stage the room, then call back. I'm not too obsessed. He had to see her bright and early for breakfast the next day. Hair looking at me, like what he cannot look bad. I cannot look at him on looking bad. That's the one thing that really sucks about him is he's beautiful. but like the He's inside inside so insecure and also just like he's not a mysterious guy that you see it in the pub and And who who is he oh his brother was on love Island. It's like baby. You're on love Island, right? And it's not fitting the expectation of what Week one he could have been a bombshell in my opinion. Yeah, yeah, it just is like Yeah, he's lost the magic for me like he you know sometimes you take you know It is a Muppet. It's not a man. You know, like sometimes you gotta get down It is it is like to have that face card and to be acting just so deeply insecure is like and that's what's mean. Wow, wow, wow, wow, you know I feel like again like Corbin could teach a class man and he will if he got anything to do with it Trust he could teach the lion class where he is gonna be on well, let me stop. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, it's gonna be on Let me know say nothing right anyways, girl. He would so do the subscribe this subscribe for the woke up plan He sounds like Arnold Schwarzenegger, but like a little bit like Right, but it's almost like I am just like Zach or the Bryce class truly actually Because I feel like he's trying to play the arc of like he's a good guy who's like only wants to be with one girl situation Then I'm like, can you please take a class from Bryce where it's like you just see how and that's the other thing too I feel like he low-key feels in competition with Bryce when it comes to like the actual gameplay of the show Like I feel like him even trying to like persuade Bryce to not be with Trinity and like these little like snide comments TV making it's like he's trying to like he knows that Bryce is so raw and so real big that he's almost trying to get him off his game But I'm like, that's the problem. It's not a game. Well, no, but that's the thing is I'm like Bryce is the secure Fucking mirror to that relationship, which is like all of these things that you're trying to tell us that you're doing Bryce is living it And I'm like you can and it's just like the tearing down of everybody in order to kind of like fill this void Maybe the void is unfillable like you being like and then and then what do what? Embrace is how like oh yeah, that's my girlfriend And he's like sometimes here in a relationship like you're in a relationship. You're happy and you have a friend That's really going through it and they're like I think we should all break up with our partners I think it's single summer right? Not for you like for you and not okay, and that's okay like be single You know what I mean like it's just like, but you don't even want to be single like Well he and right because we don't right. It's just really it's really he wants that damn phone He wants that damn phone back so he could hit everybody up. I he's so rotted. He's so rotted. If I have a DM No, it's it's really it's it's just like this whole yeah It's like it's enough. It's an and also it's just like last thing on like Kenzie and fucking Dylan's last conversations Like the were they like ended us off? I think though when it comes to Dylan You're really dragging it for real because here's the tea. Here's the tea, baby. Okay Kenzie Did Kenzie, okay, and the thing is when someone do them and they hurt you and like there's trust loss Mm-hmm in every relationship you decide what you're willing to put up with there For if you're willing to accept the fact that she did you dirty a little and like was dragging it with gall But now she's saying that she's setting it straight you have no other choice but to forgive her exactly It's like low key is the same. I'm not saying she cheated on him by any means But it's kind of that same principle when you get cheated on and you decide to stay in the relationship You can't keep picking at the scab and like doing that thing where you're like when you cheated on me Like him keeping like will you set this and you said that and you said this but no, you did this It's like okay, baby. You just yes. She did do all of that. She but she's telling you this now So all you can work off of is what's real and I feel like he's looking for this certainty that Kenzie's gonna stay with him like post Villa ending and I'm like you're in the most uncertain game ever You want to know what's more uncertain than anything in this fucking world love Bitch it is the most uncertain thing that will ever happen to you There is no certainty you can look for answers high and low validation here and there and you can get spread She's charts everything baby Is always well maybe You know, it really is and that's what I was saying is it's like he and here digging digging digging digging digging digging when it's like Unfortunately, at this point she told you what it is the past is the past to her point if you're gonna keep bringing this up I can't work with you like if you're not gonna trust me I can't work with you like the cost of people watched all the episodes the cost of people watched all the episodes He came in with six weeks of baggage on her right. She doesn't even know his middle name Right, she doesn't even know anything about him. Right. No, that ass and also like with that being said He came in so calculated because he knew Kenzie was the only one in like a You know what I mean and he didn't go for Jen so it's like easy access Kenzie whatever she my vibe cool period So it's just like again with Dylan like I feel like he's trying to have this like OG boy story where he like started from the top You know what I mean, but I'm like, we don't know you baby We don't know baby and we don't want it. We don't want the recipe to mom. We don't But you're making problems for genuinely no reason at this point because it's like you either accept Kenzie for who she is or you don't Be pushing, but I'm like you need to honestly take a page out of Carl's book They're looking exactly all the baggage he knew all the baggage in the same way he did he Literally, I I don't know about him. I don't know whatever and if he's he picked who knows right only guy knows honestly And the producers, but and the producer honestly might be as calculated as Dylan right maybe he's hiding it Well, but maybe he wants to make it to the end so he picked on a night like whatever we don't know It's a fucking game at the end of the day, right? Like I know it's lovely for getting a game. It's a game show right literally But I'm thinking like for him to come back in and not use the fact that Anaya did not choose him and to get in so casual And I mean he's wearing his glasses in bed. That did something to me and the mask and I'll take I want Yeah, I'm interested in knowing about that. I'm interested in hearing some things about that I can pull them out of Berkeley California. I ain't fair Yeah, he is so like Soul makes him beautiful to like Through there and also I just love that he's not getting in the drama and you know is just like and it's very like Jen, right? I think Jen was very like Holding her tongue sometimes, but she was very sweet, you know, I don't even like he's holding this tongue, right? You're just a genuine person and you just don't give a fuck like he's like no What's all this noise? Well, this noise because at the end of the day again There's like this trust and security that comes with like Yours you Anaya didn't pick you right the the viewers brought you back and he came with this attitude of like I'm just gonna do my best like Hopefully we can rekindle our connection and like we can like hopefully like build it back up there and It seems like they're doing that, but it's like with Dylan It's like he's holding this over Kenzie's head, and I'm like babe if you want shit to like really start moving Then fucking cut that shit off right now. Yeah, also like shut the fuck up Like you've known Kenzie for four days, bro. What are you talking about want to go to her pee-poss fucking boat and shit? And literally meet your parents. No, thank you. Y'all are gonna get fourth place at best at best and a split compilation at the reunion Well, they're not they're not getting fourth Explatio is such a crazy read We're getting a split compilation what they gonna do for him all the times the sneeze like what the fuck No, it's not the same thing over and over. It's gonna be like abs on fleek. I'm gonna say this though his They were Sharpe and Ryan Evans like there's else to be said like that for four months I was like that and I'm happy you said it and I'm happy you said something because this is what I was trying to say about Kenzie Honestly first off, I know a girl who knows her way around the theater when I see one. Yeah, I know that she was running her theater department And the theater camp like it was serious. Hello. She was entertaining the boys and the girls mind you I think very well. She was dirty They recruited her off the dance team or the cheer and they brought her in the theater I know about that. They needed a susical bird girl with a high kick and she just turned out to be a belt in the brain Who bird girl is fucking frying me because I was I was great. So it's just like annoying I had a bob on. It's no tea. It's so tea. I did because it's just like here's the thing my L. Woods like Here's the thing you can say like I'm just like girl. We could take it a broadway like you know Whitney from Mormon wives She'd be such a good L. She would be such a good L. Woods. Holy fuck what you want What is me? Yeah, I'm not to call her like those old school producers were like listen, baby. I got it all No, when she gets off the show they about to be in her they got to be in her Chicago stunt cast Chicago stunt castable No, Sabrina Carpenter double like she got it, but I think that like genuinely She could run Some shit like the Navy and I'm just like honestly. I think she'd be a real and raw ass lesbian I don't know what her tea is, but I'm like she would shake the fam game up. I think a little bit so love - Pillow Princess with her little bunny rabbit that she takes the bed every night. - Oh my god. - And just like a mask mandate that's 10 toes down for her. - Right. - I just feel like it would really be a good arc for her. I can't lie. - That would wake it up. - I need her and Melanie to both dip its ho in the pond a little bit. Like not even gonna lie like, I mean. - There is a stud, Melanie. - That would literally let you not even like Melanie. Like you would literally never eat. - Girl, since Seer is already like a less fern of the stud factory, no literally, literally. Thank you. Thank you. - I think he mentioned is the damn backpack. - Girl. (laughing) - They confiscated that. It's waiting for him to get there. - It's literally waiting for him. I'm like, girl, I know he got it, I got it. Shrapped up. But here's the thing and that face card too a little stud like. - He's very gorgeous. He's very like Demiana, like it's like it's sickening. - Yeah, oh God. I love what we can't really debate like face cards. You know, like that's lovely. I think that makes a really good season too. - Well, that's how they're getting away with it. - That murder. - That is. - We're seeing pretty murder. - Unfold in real time. - Like tone evil, 'cause I'm like then everyone plays on each other. - Melanie would be such a good actress. Like I just feel like, you know when you're like, you get high as hell and you start like recreating like movie scenes and stuff, you're like. Like Melanie will start crying and I feel like there's like a bug in the back of her head 'cause she's smart, right? She is brilliant. I don't care what people say. Like people are like, oh my God, she's so down for going back to him. Okay, name one person that hasn't done that in their entire life. - Well. - Oh. - But literacy. Just me. - No, I feel like she will catch the light. Like she'll be crying in the single tear will be falling and she'll be like, how could you do that to me? - I'm like, whoa! Like actress. - Like that. - There's an opportunity here. - Face it, there's an opportunity. - She's got the face for it. - No, her face card is absolutely insane. - Yeah. - It's insane. - No, there's like, listen, you T.A. at Colin. - Right. - C.A.A. at Colin, W.M.E. at Colin. - Oh, the girl's about to be booked in busy. Don't even worry. But I'm just like at this point, it's like, - Kenzie already has me. - Ada. - Kenzie already has me. - Ada, Victoria. - Secret. - Secret. - Secret. - Exactly. It's leading itself to the Victoria secret. - Oh. - Angel of it all. - I really don't know who's going to annoy me. We have to think about this, right? It's coming. It's coming very fast. Who is going to be the most annoying on socials after? - I'm like. - I feel like. - Oh. - Kenzie's still in visco. Honey, if you look at the old post, not that one. But if you look at the old post. (laughing) - Well, I'm like-- - She's still in her visco era. So, I'm like, honey, we have to get a social media man during the like-- (laughing) - Right. - The photo shoot, the concept shoot, it's like-- - Well, Kenzie's about to be busing it down. I feel like it's just going to be like, I think sincere is going to be the most annoying for me because it's just like after what I've seen you genuinely need to take like a year break. And you need to come back with your head shaved and like, I don't even, I just don't even know. - And Ken-- - A book. - Kenzie already has management, so. - But it's on. No, I know her manager's lit in the DMs right now. - Well, I don't know. She was already having to defend her pre-coming on. So, I don't know. Maybe she'll pop out Biden hair shirt on us. We didn't know she had. - Oh my God, best believe I'm still a jewel of like this. She post like a whole like endorsement. - No, she'll go cut it in the back, like it's just like, okay. - No, she's gonna be like-- - Okay, imagine if she endorsed Kamala Harris right now which she got out of the, that would be so fucking funny. Like, I'm sorry, like if she did like a post-election endorsement, it would like listen. - She better be talking some shit. - She better be talking-- - She need me talking some shit. - No, she needs to be talking her shit 'cause I'm like, baby, it's like-- - 'Cause if not, I'm like right now, maybe they, you know, they can't pull you for that. But I'm like, it's, it looks-- - You are gonna have to do a Q&A after that, right here. - Tumblr, Tumblr, if you're watching, I know you. Pete, like, please loop Bryson trying to the end for something. - Well, they will, they will. - I know what. - Like, oh, God. - The girls have their finger on the poles. - Are they your winners? Like, who's taking it all the way? 'Cause at this point, we're weak out. - I think it has to be, it absolutely has to be and will be Bryson Trinity. I really wanted to hold out on hope that Carl and Anaya, but I think she's just happy to have calm. - Yeah. - And hey, maybe that's the real winning and all that she can't do. - I think it is too. - I think it is too. - But I think Bryson Trinity, yeah. I mean, it's just, it's history. - They're at it, isn't it? - They've got history. - Oh my God. - It is reality TV history. - Well, I'm like-- - Him crying sealed the deal for me. Him crying about getting picked. - That's when I knew they won it. That's when I knew they won it. - When I just like, again, when they both separately had their conversations about staying vulnerable for each other. - Exactly. - And like, at Casa Moore, when he was like, I'm sick to my fucking stomach, but like, whatever she chooses, like, I'm just gonna be okay with it. 'Cause I like genuinely my feelings for her are real and true. - And her saying, like, literally the same thing the night before, I was like, it's Ovea. - 'Cause I'm like, y'all are for realica. - No, they're like for realica and they're gonna try to figure it out when they get out of gas. So it's like, you know. - And there-- - He gives me hope for 30. - Yeah. - Right, right. - Like, not to take it there, but like, honestly-- - No, and that's 'cause honestly-- - The level of emotional security-- - Yeah, it really does happen. Like, as someone sitting here 28, he 29, it really shit changes in a big way. - For sure. - For sure. - You see shit so differently and there's so much nuance in life. - Yeah, yeah. - You know what I mean? And like, every L that he's taken to get him to where he is, it's like, it was honest. And at the end of the day, I feel like the lesson that I've learned from watching this show, is I will always respect someone who's gonna be honest about how they're moving and what they're doing to someone who's gonna say, no, I'm not, but moving. - I mean, and the proof is in the pudding of the fact that like, there's only maybe three people over 26 on this show. That's the proof you need right there because if they were going for security and like, real love, arguably, you wouldn't be getting these 22 year olds out of Kenisaw Georgia because it just ain't even fair. It's not fair to expect the girls to come up here and have the emotional security, the emotional stability of a 30 year old, like, have you all been 22? But like, when I really think about it, I'd be like, and even Trinity, wise beyond her years. - Yeah. - Like, whoever is feeding into her, I'm like, baby, 'cause I started sounding like that, maybe 26. - Well, and that's what I mean when you hyperspeed it like, so I'm like, not even-- - She's a Libra. - She's a Libra. - Yeah, right. And it's just like, it's when it emtangs where it's like, you know, all the girls crashing out, everybody got their pitchforks out, like, totally, I understand it's like TV, but like, then I remember that y'all are 22 years old, and I'm like, if y'all were on reality TV at 22? - No. - Protection spell. - No. - Like, protection spell in the girls. - Just absolutely insane. Like, first time on a plane going to Fiji, like, literally never been on a plane before, and never, like, been out of the state besides the road trip to six flags. Like, they are really first time living - Six flags of life for KC. - Like, literally. - No, and it's very like, we need to find the humanity and not because, like, yeah. - We need to find the humanity. - I've had a good time, I've had a good time watching both from onsite now and at home. - Exactly. - I feel like I've kept a grip on the fact that one, putting myself in their shoes, I'd never be in those shoes. - Right. - But it's like, that's part of it, is like, just an awareness, like, it's a reality television show. Sure, this is like a sample little like dish of seeing like, oh, wow, different, like, types of people interacting in different, like, you know, here's how I socialize, here's how I move, here's how you move. But at the end of the day, it's like, girl, this is very vulnerable shit being televised. So, Melanie, going back to a man, does not mean that everybody needs to jump on her and bully her, it's like total, like, I'm sorry she's doing the thing that your best friend in high school did behind closed doors that's the lowest point in our life on national television. - Right. - Exactly. - Like, I'm not gonna hold her. Like, it's like, you, I'm feel bad for everyone. I feel, you know, a little emotionally worked up at times over this show. - Of course. - Even like the TV situation. It's like, thank you, girl, for being interesting. - Right. - Huck. - Like, you know, like, I really don't know what else to say. It's like, thank you for bringing some interesting reality TV moments. Do we need to get the pitch works out and death threats and everything? - No. - No, because I'm normal. I'm normal. And I know how to watch a reality television show. - Because also it's just like, we can have a moment where it's like, also, everything and like, this is the last thing I'm gonna say is just like, everything in the show changes so fast. It's like, even the weekly recordings of the show, it's like hard as hell, because it's like, how I felt one day, it completely changes the next. Like, because we're seeing these people day by day, not week by week, day by fucking day. So we're seeing in real time, them literally come to like, their own arcs and conclusions. And it's just like-- - Yeah, you're opinion on a Tuesday does not matter by Thursday. - It says no. - It's borderline problematic looking back, because it's like, why did I ever like, I just can't believe like, I watched back like some of the videos I did, and it was like, girl, I was literally rooting for Casey so hard because of the man I was seeing early on. And now I'm almost back to, I respect him. - Yeah, I've been here because of the air the day. - The air the day, that's the thing is like, we got to remember at the end of the day, there are people being triggered down Truman Show style, no phone, no family, like 16 in the middle of Fiji and me, literally. - And it's like the, it's just, yeah. There's a whole other conversation-- - The only person that I'm feeling Panini pressed about, that really needs to take time. And I mean, really like get out of my fucking face. - And how's the opportunity to do so? - And how's the opportunity to like, really like, shut it down and like go to the him and then-- - And restart, restart, yeah. - It's sincere, genuinely. - Yeah. - 'Cause I'm like, that, those tricks and that game, then how's it going? happening. No redemption arc, no change, no nothing is, you're just literally seeing someone who's a serial cheater. She literally serial cheat and then do the thing where they say they're sorry and then they've gone. And they changed overnight. They changed and he decided he's honest from now on. If he was real honest and actually felt an ounce of anything felt bad at all, he would have packed his own bags. Oh, like the little ant with the fucking stick after movie night, he would have got this out and he would have went home. Oh, if Casey was genuinely as bad as sincere, like really was acting and like that out of order for real. Like you had Corbin and Casey both me. They would like literally, I feel like Casey would have solved him and like, I think I need to go home like, I really like fucked up the worst of ever. And he damn near did like the shots of him watching movie night, like lost eyes. I was like, because you're going through some like, I didn't know that girl. I was like, I didn't know that when I defended you. I was like, whoa, whoa. Thank you. You behavior. Like you had the entire villa caught up in your lies and deceptions. And even him like, he go and have to cut. And that's why I'm like, he going to be annoying to me if you pop out the villa and like post like a take dog at him, like doing the well, because then I'm like, here's the thing. You have an opportunity to genuinely start over, which is available to you. Let's go ahead and start it from scratch. Just go ahead and start it. We really think. And when his family comes, his mom about to I'm a hama notebook out. I'm a hama notebook. Actually, let me leave the moms out of this right now. He's like, I'll be much on the mom is, but it's just like, I'm interested. First back, it's going to be like one of those big sunset shots. And the description is going to be this fucking long. It really is to those I impacted or some bullshit. No, I'm hearing you. I'm listening. I'm learning like, it's going to be a huge thing. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. And we're just praying for the girls. And like, thank you for still being on the island. Somebody has to hold it down. They did have to fly us out because like, actually, we almost tried to like, you know what I mean? So I don't know. It was I was getting awkward. It was getting awkward when I kept going like this in the whole way since year. And they just weren't having. So it's like, I got a lot of empty beds over here as they are. Welcome to come over. Right. We don't have to fly back out for the finale. Like literally. Yeah. We might have to pull up. We might have to pull up for the finale. But yeah, girl, we love you, girl. Thank you. Thank you. Oh my gosh. I love you. Oh, this is so exciting. Everyone who's on the front, like genuinely, like on the front, like reporting, we see you and like, thank you for your service, for real, for real. I'm going to get Kinsey to the rehearsal room. She's going to be on Chicago by the fall. So thank you for her, maybe you can go touring Chicago touring. No, we love it art for. No, it's. Well, damn, girl. All right. We loving you so much. And like, guys, we love y'all too. We just go, we just go and close all of it out. Like, love you guys so much. And again, I shout out to Smyrna by like watermelon wave. Like y'all getting us through this. Y'all already know a paradise trying to grind times. But we love y'all. We'll see you next week.